>>717083853
I like my Vader 4 Pro a lot, I've seen hardcore controller people say that it has some latency issues but I can't tell at all. Just keep that in mind and do research on it if you're sensitive to it. But it's built so well and I love being able to adjust the tension of the sticks without any tools or taking the thing apart. I think I saw there's a Vader 5 or a new Apex coming soon, maybe check in on that if you're considering pulling the trigger on something like the Vader 4.