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The Phoenix Suns are trading two-time NBA Finals MVP Kevin Durant to the Houston Rockets for Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, the No. 10 pick in the 2025 draft and five second-round picks, sources tell ESPN.
https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1936826228108931393
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>>149362198Tanking isn't Heat Culture. Not like they have a choice they'll be shit but they don't want to be.
Snus canโt even begin the rebuild until the Beal contract expires, so whatโs their plan?
>>149362230>WE GETTING GIANNIS
>>149362228they gonna be shit now. but they finally have their picks I guess.
WE GOT KD AND DIDNT LOSE XLNC OR GOON HOLY FUUUUUUUCKKKKK???? WTF WTF WTF CONTENDERSSSS. I MANIFESTED THIS SHIT FUCK YEAAHHHHH
>>149362241to be the next bulls
BOOKER TO THE NUGGETS A NEW DYNASTY
can we all agree pacers are the good guys
we gun git giannis and kyrie still
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
YOUR 2026 NBA CHAMPIONS
THE HOUSTON ROCKETS
YOUR 2026 FMVP
KEVIN DURANT
YOUR 2027 FMVP
SENGUN
YOUR 2028 FMVP
AMEN THOMPSON
HOLY FUCK WE ACTUALLY GOT IT
>>149362265kino season this year
>>149362206 (OP)Who's stopping them?
So why don't they have Bum start taking 20 shots a game? Beasley said he was that good right?
>>149362265KD is a hundred years old, made no impact at all on the suns, and you lost in the first round as a 2 seed
sou
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its over, rockets finna booty blast us all
figured the rockshits would be in on giannis, not old ass KD
>>149362309lmao cope harder.
amen covers the perimeter and has enough ball movement with sengun whos become a great interior defender. kd is the 3 level scorer we need and one of the goats at that. its actually over for the nba. the thunder better pray they win g7, they are not sniffing another finals this decade
fuck I'll repeat it here
I'm gonna miss Brooks just for his meme potential. Not really gonna miss Green's "potential" though. Super flashy player at times though. Good luck Phoenix.
>Suns don't plan to trade Jalen Green
Based i hope jalen prove yall wrong the talent is obviously there
>>149362320giannis aint getting traded
>>149362339>amen covers the perimeter and has enough ball movement with sengun whos become a great interior defenderWas that not also the case this year when you lost as a 2 seed to the rickety ass warriors?
>>149362408yeah because we didnt have any scoring (jalen green took the series off except for one game)
KD changes that
>>149362408the rickety ass warriors would be celebrating another ring right now if curry remained healthy
>>149362408yeah but we swapped jalen green for kd and our 2 young stars are gonna improve even more.
>>149362369I don't know why idiots keep talking about this.
Look at how much worse Philly's season was than the Bucks, and I don't see people talking about trading Embiid's big crippled ass.
>>149362364he's not good and is one of the most easily replaceable archetypes in the league. Now he's in an even worse situation with 2 redundant players. Jordan Clarkson is his best outcome at this point
Rockets didnโt really give up anything, not sure KD fits their timeline but itโs better for the Suns than the Spurs deal (Sochan, Vassell, Castle, #14) would have been for San Antonio
>>149362206 (OP)That's not gonna make an impact
>>149362438embiid is probably the most untradeable contract in the NBA right now, either him or beal
hell, with Pandemic P philly might have 2 of the 3 worst contracts in the league
Sadie
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>the blueprint
>my work
>My Nuggets winning a ring this year might cause a couple of suicides.
>They're clearing room for Dame retard
>ok he'll go to Miami but the Heat will be a worse team (YOU ARE HERE)
>my bracket
>which thread we using?
>good night bulgariaLORD
>my mom is a respected woman
>I was a childhood Mavs fan
>the x factor
>Tatum will retire ringless
>the reverse sweep
>i cant get paperwork done
>the Heat have standards
>heโs clearing cap to get giannis retard
>We don't need Jimmy
>itโs shamsโ fault
>Luka is still going to Miami
>When heat are waving blue, white and pink it's them celebrating floridian culture.
>it'll be a hard fought series with the heat winning in 7
>kd wants to come here and we know pat riley can strike a deal.
>4kgaria
>aislopper
>weapskitz
>leshiticus
>>149362438that's just because Embiid and PG are untradable. Embiid just signed a massive extension last offseason. Nobody is taking that
Ishbia has some brain damage or something
>hes not good
the 23yo guy who led his team to the 2nd seed in the west. lmao
>>149362369But he just got traded for Draymond Green, Jonathan Kumnigga, Moses Moody and a bunch of draft picks
If the Suns valued the pick, why didn't they take the raptors deal of RJ, Poeltl and the #9 Pick?
>>149362302that's a nice 45 win team right there
>>149362506my man's been reading so many fake trade articles he thought one of them came true
>>149362480How's Tatums achillies?
>>149362509its mind blowing to me how people in the nba dont seem to give a fuck about RJ
hes really fucking good whats wrong with people
>>149362438Nobody wants embiid to play 20 games at $60 million a year.
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Barry Jackson
@flasportsbuzz
Though DeMar DeRozan is someone the Heat has pursued in the past, Miami has not explored that to this point. That might change; remains to be seen. Kings reportedly looking to move off his contract. Not a ton out there to improve with Heat's cap situation.
PLEASE FUCKING KILL ME
I can't wait for KD to force Udoka out for Thibs, Malone, or some other stupid shit
>>149361915its not revenge. warriors are already one retirement away from a completely dead franchise just like in the 2000s. it wont even be like facing the same team
>>149362169>they were a finals team as well. grimlolmao you lost to an aged curry and an aged injured butler, infact you lost an entire game without butler in, and just an aged curry, only reason it even went to 7 was kerr literally giving up a match like hes the 1st seeded thunder that can afford dumb shit like that.
>>149362545there is not one good reason to go for demar. the heat front office is actually washed
>>149362477Untradeable from a teams perspective, but people aren't saying he should request a trade like they are with Giannis.
>>149362545do you want another scorer on the team or not my dude whats your problem
>>149362557that'll be the real challenge
can Ime and Stone keep the cancer in check and not let it affect the rest of the team
Ishbia could've gotten a haul from OKC if he just waited one day for them to get packed
>>149362590because of the obvious reason being that he is the problem and a huge reason why philly sucks whereas Giannis is still an mvp level player who's let down by his team
>>149362611Topic, Hartenstein and a couple of first in this years draft is better than Green, Dillon and a mid first
>>149362611KD doesnt seem like the type to want to go back to a team he already left
>>149362605>>149362557I dunno, fans in Houston really appreciate what Ime has done to this squad. Plus they remember Durant playing for the fucking warriors.
>>149362590giannis already has a ring, he don't need to request shit, but i'm sure he doesn't want to waste his few remaining prime years on a team hard stuck in mediocrity
if i'm the bucks i'd explore trade options only because there's really no way to win even with him and he's gonna have peak value now...but hey, we just watched a 37 year old fetch a lottery pick so what's the rush?
So.. how many more years until KD retires?
My wolvies escaped the KD trade :)
>>149362545kings really begged him to come in free agency he signs a 3 year deal on a paycut then they decide to cut him loose
>>149362665yeah rockets fans (and the organization) will never let KD force Ime out
everybody can see through his shit at this point, we know what we want from him and all we want is for him to put the ball in the basket
>in 2019 were slowly improving
>in 2020 they were showing very promising signs
>in 2021 they exceeded expectation completely and were 2 wins from a ring
>in 2022 they were considered by far the best team and got humiliated
>in 2023 they gambled and traded 2 of their big 5 for a superstar
>in 2024 they traded chris paul for bradley beal and ayton for nurkic
>in 2025 they traded the superstar that cost 2 great starters for dillon brooks and jalen green
The Phoenix Suns last 6 years have been a fever dream. They had an incredible young core, had 3 years of a top 15 all time player and now they are left with NOTHING.
>>149362632It's nothing but fans of big market teams thinking they can pull a deal to land better players simply because they're a big market team. Call it Lakeritus. I've been watching the NBA for 30yrs and as much as the game itself have changed, it's the same retarded fantasy booking shit every offseason.
>>149362683Congratulations!
>>149362697the main issue is that Booker has never been that guy
>>149362241They can certainly try to acquire as much good young talent as possible though.
Thunder fans hate him.
Warriors fans secretly hate him because he stole Currys number 1 spot for 3 years.
Nets fans dislike him because he blew up their team and won nothing.
Suns fans will now dislike him because he did a Nets.
If KD doesnt finally win in Houston hes not gonna have a home
>>149362545>missed out on all these big stars>just to settle for defrozenmy sides
>>149362302Who is guarding this big three?
jalen williams is better than devin booker as of right now true or false?
>>149362767i think only wemby can guard them
Ime is in love with KD he was on the Nets with him and wanted to trade Jaylen Brown for KD when he was the Celtics coach.
>>149362772Jalen Williams is way too inconsistent
>>149362749booker has the same problem every other all-offense-no-defense guard has where the team has to be a Ferrari-esque offensive engine where all the little pieces are fine tuned enough to fit him in and make up for his weaknesses
>>149362787hes consistent on defense and effort something Booker could never
>>149362206 (OP)I don't like this trade. rockets were young and hungry before, now they are old
>>149362791booker is a fine defender
>>149362761>nestthey shouldn't resent him at all, they got a fuckton for him
larden's the one they ought to be blaming for blowing that shit up
>>149362812but the whole point is that they managed to keep their young core
>>149362812hunger doesn't put the ball in the hoop
So, is Devin Booker getting traded soon too?
>>149362761nets fans dont hate kd they hate kyrie and harden. warriors fans are ungrateful bitches. suns have every right to hate him. kd did nothing except taking the nuggets to game 6. he lost them mikal and cam and pushed for bradley "dogshit" beal. the nets did a great job rebuilding with the assets he gave them. but he DESTROYED the suns. green and beal are dogshit losing players. the only real asset they have is booker.
>>149362856for some reason suns fans like him still
>>149362832without dillion they got no dawgs left
>>149362632mvp level bulldozer.
>>149362749went to the finals, dropped two 40 pt games back to back. his team sucks. ayton became mindbroken. nurkic is the worst center ever. they lost a point guard to add another dude that plays the same position as him. none of this is bookers fault.
>>149362667If you're the bucks, you rebuild around Lame time and Doc.
>>149362903Niggas act like NBA players are boxers or some shit
>>149362886that definitely suck but brooks often hurt his teams by thinking hes the star. dude is not aftaid to chuck
>>149362886The disrespect to amen and tari eason
The truth is that the nba is changing its business model. It used to be give mj, Kobe, Lebron, all the calls, make them the main characters and create goat debates. Nowadays some nigga named naesmith or nebhard can shoot like 6-7 threes in two minutes and get your rigging and your goats out of the game.
So the nba doesnโt know how to promote the game anymore.
why did the rockets keep cam whitmore tho?
>>149362949Suns had zero leverage
The Phoenix Suns is run by a 4 year old that took dad's controller when he stepped out to collect his delivery box of dildos while he was on myGM
>>149362942>So the nba doesnโt know how to promote the game anymore.should be hyping up teams, not players. duh
>>149362926the difference is when kobe chucks he misses all his shots. when booker chucks he hits damn near 50%.
>>149362983Who cares about teams that change every year?
>Important players for the Rockets
Amen, KD, Sengun, Jabari, Adams, Eason, FVV
>Players with some potential
Sheppard, Cam, Landale
this team is STACKED
>>149362995you misread bro we were talking about dillion brooks
but im not a fan of booker to be desu
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see you in the conference finals houston
>>149363028Hope drayboon heems kd
imagine drafting reed sheppard with the 3rd pick
>>149363028Curry will be watching it from home, again
>>149363028see you in the conference finals currgod
>>149362369This. Itโs just espn trying to force shit. I donโt know why but Giannis is loyal af to Milwaukee and heโs already a superstar. Itโs just sour grapes from third world anchor babies on the coasts.
I don't understand how people still defend KD
mma james is about to get a ring before embiid harden westbrook cp3 and pg
Suns only one won series with KDโฆ. ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh9CSp3zZXk
KWAB
>>149362967Kek. The suns accepted a CPU trade offer
>thunder
>warriors
>nets
>suns
>now rockets
is kd officially a journeyman?
>>149363150he was a journeyman by the time he made it to the nets
im more excited to see whats happening with beal
>>149363011god damn the owner and gm is already dumb as fuck putting two two dudes with the names booker and brooks on the team. fucking confusing as shit. what retards.
>>149362996well then the nba fanbase is weak and retarded. Every other sport has fans of teams. Only the nba is player based
>all the suns needed was a point guard
>trade for two more shooting guards
>now they have 4 shooting guards
HOLY FUCK HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAH
>>149363204they just wanted to get rid of KD at any cost
>>149363066At least he is finally going to a team that is defense first
>>149363060Giannis doesnโt really have a great offer in his hands.
Join San Antonio with Wemby (who might be injured all the time) and best case scenario become his David Robinson. Who wants such a legacy.
There is only one team-market worth it, the Knicks and they donโt have any assets.
Like Bron, had the conditions to join and create a super team in Miami. And KD went to a 73 win team. Giannis doesnโt really have a championship option.
None has any assets to trade and there is no giga market to make money.
gonna cry if the pacers lose tonite
>>149363204can you name 5 true point guards in the league currently i feel like its endangered species
>>149363225giannis already has a ring david robinson never saw a finals before daddy duncan came along. giannis is never gonna end up like that
We got a fucking Finals Game 7 tonight bros. This is for all of the fucking marbles. This is fucking it.
>>149363225>Who wants such a legacy.who gives a fuck, he already has his chip and multiple mvps. Just join san antonio and potentially be the 1b. Gianis is still better than wemby as of right now
kd got his perfect trade and he might watch okc lose. this could be the best week hes had this decade
>>149362598no I dont. I want them to fucking tank and rebuild
I don't get it. Somehow, both the Suns and Rockets look worse after the trade.
>>149363100sga without a whistle lmao
>>149363100DE-FENSE
*boom boom*
niggas saying houston traded all of their depth lmfao
>>149362812Amen and Sengun are still in the team and they are both like 22
>>149363204This just means they're getting Westbrook
>>149363304you're saying the rockets look worse without jalen green?
>>149363290kd is the one who fucked over okc, why would he be mad at them?
>>149363100literally gets fouled on the first play. the nba is so fucking gay
>>149363244"True point guards" (i.e. guys who focus more on passing than scoring) are definitely endangered, but there are still plenty of good ball handlers.
>>149363294are you prepared to say goodbye to bam? robinson? herro?
>>149363100he gets fouled on the second play too. every time a team wins in the nba it's cause the refs don't call fouls on the winning team. how's the taste of your own medicine taste, okc.
>>149363275Wembyโs health is questionable.
You will become the 1b as you say.
And itโs not like the city will get the spotlight and the huge ratings.
This is really not a great legacy move.
I would understand joining the Knicks or LA if they had the assets.
If you wanna change teams you might as well try to take the NBA by storm. Like the big 3 heat
Otherwise itโs just not worth it.
>>149363341they always say he bitched okc so seeing them win a title before he wins one without curry would be pretty humiliating
Trump needs to be impeached and removed immediately
>>149363372just win more chips, idiot. You'd rather lose as the 1st best player than win as the 2nd best? thats stupid
>>149363402nukes can come after g7
woj didn't even say anything, unc getting washed by shams lately
Was Duncan actually the best player on the 99 spurs?
to compensate for the lack of calls in game 6 league sources are telling me scott foster will personally be giving shai head every time he goes to the ft line in game 7
>>149363402dont worry u can watch the rockets win the finals from tehran next year
>>149363358you know who i really miss? That pacers point guard who left the nba for religious stuff and then came back to the lakers 1 season i believe
Keep the same energy when Indiana gets blown out and Shai wins FMVP.
>>149363402why? for destroying nukes? is that a bad thing now? obama didnt get impeached and removed for bombing kids in syria and afghanistan
https://x.com/TheNBACentel/status/1936828683937026271
keeeeeeeeeeeeek
>>149363407some dudes just dont care about winning more rings if they've done it before
giannis is already an all time great, what difference does winning two or three more (especially on a different team) do for him
>>149363491>what difference does winning two or three more (especially on a different team) do for himit absolutely helps him
>>149363503no it doesnt. he won with the fucking bucks lol.
>>149363503not who you're replying to, but yeah not everyone leghumps "legacy" like LeBald is desperately trying to
Pacerbros how we feeling?
the way yall talking giannis should just fucking retire then lol whats the point of playing if not gonna be competitive?
>>149363515winning more titles helps your legacy if youre a top 3 player on the team. Im not even sure kareem was the best player on his last lakers title team. wilt winning in LA as the 3rd/4th option helped his legacy
>>149363491>>149363515>>149363536>winning more rings as the main or at worst 1b option doesn't do anything for his career/imagedidn't know sir charles posted here
>>149363503giannis has the potential to do exactly what lebron did but the right way, he just needs to go to the bay area gang, 2 chips guaranteed
>>149363548gn 6 really boosted morale the pressure is all on OKc. feeling good
>>149363571he won with the bucks boy. ring chasing by team hopping is only going to hurt his legacy. he won his first ring with the fucking bucks.
>>149363372Wetbananas health is not questionable. It's pretty much guaranteed he will never be healthy at his height. They said he grew a couple of inches too since they found the blood clot and now he is 7'6
Who the fuck has ever been healthy while being this tall? Just 20 years old and already has a serious health problem. A couple more years and he will be in wheelchair
>>149363244It's important to have a player that can beat their defender off the dribble and facilitate. Having a functional offense makes up for one player being a weaker defender.
>>149363589fuck off drayboon
no more coattails for you and cuckry to ride on
>>149363602if he goes to san antonio and wins with wemby (not a super team), it helps his legacy. End of story. Because now gianis is credited with 2 rings. Not a roleplayer or bench player ring
>>149363602>he won with the bucks boy. ring chasing by team hopping is only going to hurt his legacy. he won his first ring with the fucking bucks.
>>149363455>jeet defending trumpkek
>>149363632kek EXACTLY. And people argue Magic was the best player on the lakers teams. Still only helped Kareem's legacy
>>149363626if he goes to san antonio as a first option he doesnt win a ring. and then he'll just be known as the guy who left the bucks to try and win a ring and couldnt. or he could stay as the only dude to win milwaukee a ring and none of the negative shit like leaving.
winning isn't everything. How you win matters much more which seems to be lost on e!spn guzzlers and internet dwellers even though that fact pops up every time KD is mentioned
>>149363548They gonna win
I can feel it
>>149363455destroying nukes isnt necessarily a good thing
NBA Finals MVP Andrew William Nembhard
>>149363652Gianis will be the 1st option since Wemby is the defensive superstar, and wemby isnt as good as gianis on the offensive end. So gianis will be the 1st option until proven otherwise
>>149363632what are you trying to say? giannis won his first ring on a team that hasn't won a ring in over 50 years, the bucks
>>149363455you are literally Indian
>>149363632that bucks had top 5 all time point guard oscar robinson, dummy
you niggas really want superstars to rot in trash ass teams forever without even a chance to compete for a ring? giannis gave those niggas a chip already he has the right to walk and actually put himself in a position to win again
bros chuck also went from phx to hou. life is 100% scripted
cant believe /tv/ tricked me into watching Ad Astra
>>149363668yeah thats what i said. if you leave a team once you get washed no one would mind.
>>149363694>listening to /tv/ recsnow you know
>>149363694they don't even watch movies lol
Phoenix gave up way too much for old man Durant.
>>149363665he destroyed their nukes and their facilities. it took iran over 50 years to build a nuke
>>149363725from dead in the ground to possible new gainz
>>149363736nukes arent real, you retarded jeet
>>149362302sengun is a pale ass mayomonkey get this man under the sun
>>149363754heat fans, are yall ok?
>>149362230I want to eat her tiny hand
>>149362749Put Booker on the Pacers with Haliburton and that team threepeats honestly his insane closeout scoring is exactly what the Pacers need
>>149363726they gave up jalen green who's the most inefficient player in the nba and dillon brooks, it was a steal honestly
btw, even if youre not the 1st option, that doesnt mean you arent the best player on the team. Wilt was the best player on the lakers when they won the title,Ben wallace was the best player on the pistons when they won, and controversially, David robinson was the best player on the 99 spurs. Oh and Wes unseld was the best player on the bullets title team
im a boomer bulls fan and quit watching the league after derrick rose got hurt who are the good guys tonight
>>149362302Thunder
Lakers
Clippers
Warriors
Mavericks
Timberwolves
He would smoke the Thunder
>>149363806>im a boomer bulls fan and quit watching the league after derrick rose got hurt who are the good guys tonightpacers
>>149363754kek, the derangement is real
>>149363806There has never been a more obvious good guy team then the pacers
>>149363806Pacers are because they play unselfish basketball and are huge underdogs against the 68 win Thunder and MVP Shai
>>149363803Kawhi cemented his legacy as an all timer because he was able to win with the spurs, go to toronto as the #1 guy, and win one there
If Giannis goes somewhere else (the spurs for example) and wins there it does help his legacy, but only if he's the lead guy and not wemby (and there can't be any question about who the lead there is)
>>149363848nah haliburton cant go left he aint a superstar
>>149363602Kareem's decision to leave the Bucks wasn't about ring chasing it was about him disagreeing with the politics of that city.
>>149363858okc bout to lose to a guy that cant go left
>>149363837>>149363848>>149363850heard
never hated reggie miller desu
>>149363854if gianis wins either as the 1 or 2 option, it helps his legacy either way. And even as the 2nd option, he can still be the best player on the team
if its a thunder blowout this will be the most anti climatic nba game ever
please mr silver dont let this happen
>>149363869which is why it didnt hurt kareems legacy
>/nba/ wants players to run from the grind and team up with other superstars
Lebron and KD have done irreparable damage to the league
>>149363869kareem just wanted to go somewhere warm and fuck hot latin and white women
>>149363854the spurs wronged kawhi. he didn't go to toronto cause he wanted to, they traded his ass to the worst possible place they thought of.
>>149363910spurs would only be a super team if another future hall of famer in their prime joined them
>>149363858Thunder have everything and still need the refs & home court. Let them get humbled.
>>149363884https://official.nba.com/referee-assignments/
no scott foster. LETS FUCKING GO!!!
>>149363931yea but we love shai (dark skin)
>>149363910And even if they don't, they'll make underhanded deals like making Nico send Luka to the Lakers for AD and Flagg.
who the fuck is miami getting this offseason
>>149363962this shit happens every season kek
>>149363962miami is going to go through a 2 year rebuild. Like after the 2001 season, they sucked until wade got there
>>149363946OKC is stuffed full of talent and cringe. They go hands on all game defensively. They need to be checked.
>>149363981heat can't rely on being in a destination city anymore. zoomers dont care about "good" cities anymore cuz they can just fly wherever they want
>>149363910lebron did nothing wrong, he didnt win shit. gilbert couldnt build a good young roster at all. getting old ass shaq like it was a win was the last straw. if lebron won a ring in 07 and then decided to leave in 2010 then that's different
>>149363936>James Capers>Indiana this playoffs with Capers is 2-1Indiana just won the fucking title HOLY SHIT
>>149363962WE
GON
GIT
D'ANGELO
james capers looks like the uncrook version of tony brothers
Kek @ this memoryholed dogshit. LeBron went to LA to star in Space Jam and be Kobe's number 2 when he could have started a new dynasty in Denver. What a retard.
>>149364153If LeBron went to Denver heโd just be Jokicโs sidekick, he was already known as Wadeโs in 2019 when he left Cleveland
>>149364153lebrons whole career is about to be memoryholed like you wouldn't believe
>>149364216he's AD's sidekick in LA lol
>>149364020Gilbert threw money at bron year after year all for one chip talk about a bad investment
>>149364153was MJ a good actor? Ive never seen the movie
Just realized Jokic's contract has him locked up in Denver for his whole prime damn that's rough kek
>>149364314>was MJ a good actor?he was ok. not distracting
>>149364314Cory from Spill movie reviews/Double Toast podcast animated for that film said Jordan was okay nothing special could smile
>>149363936Tiven and Wright reffed game 4 btw
Opening trade season before the Finals are done is still a silly decision by the league. Spread this shit out cmon now
>>149364314yes considering he was acting with nonexistant cartoon characters
>>149364415it was a blow out till foster took over
>>149364421the finals are suppose to be over by now. this is a rare 7 series final
alright now who wants Beal?
>>149364415lmao silver is not slick.
>>149364002Grizz got rid of Dillon and have been a shitshow since.
>>149364421it has been this way since forever. It's up to a team's discretion how long they wait after being eliminated. Nobody cared when dudes were just getting dumped or picks moved around. The names are just bigger this time
>Nest finally recover from the Celtics full retard trade and are competitive
>trade for Durant, back to being a bottom ~5 team
>Suns in the finals
>trade for Durant, now not even a playoff team
>Rockets finally come out of historically bad 3 year stretch and have a bright future
>trade for Durant
what could go wrong
WESTBROOK IS EITHER GOING TO THE SUNS OR THE ROCKETS WHICH ONE IS IT
>>149364458mathematically the most likely series length is 6 games and trade season opened well before that.
>Kevin Durant just got traded to the rockest
>nuggets still dont have a GM
>>149364476Beal aint going nowhere. He's straight chillin on his Arizona oceanfront property.
>>149364216If Bron went to Denver Jokic would be labeled a bum and either traded off or not had a career like he did
>>149364507>trade for KD>lose a billion draft picks>team is a ticking timebomb>trade for George Paul >lose a billion draft picks>team is a ticking timebomb>Trade for Jimmy Butler>give up a ham sandwich and a 2nd round pick>have some nice competitive seasons>two years later trade him for a ham sandwich and a 2nd round pick
>>149364517>Shiva + Servant link up to end their careersNo way something that kino could be allowed
>>149364576100% bron wouldโve had him traded
This trade doesnt move me
What does nobitches think about his deas in the guttee team?
>>149364153huh this movie is great tho...
>>149364640Stop retconning Jimmy Barista.
https://youtu.be/pX___DCt-6g
Sports Media is going to talk more about the Durant trade than the Game 7 result, come tomorrow
>>149362320Theyโd have to give up a lot more and anyone who has watched the Rockets knows that not having a consistent perimeter scorer was their #1 problem. Including the postseason, they were 21-1 when Jalen Green had 30+ points, the one loss was just him statpadding when the game was over
>>149364769I'll never put LeBron over Jordan
BUT
I respect him for being a part of two Game 7 Finals victories. That's a nice feather in the cap.
>>149364831Kd needs this ring in Houston badly if he wants the respect his stats deserve
>there are unironic retards in here who think the 2016 warriors simply just choked
https://youtu.be/bvTPxCOfjdE?t=12m46s
Now Suns just need to scam another team and trade Shooker for a ton of picks and a young player and they'll have rebuilt the team in record time.
I really don't see the Rockets making it out of the 2nd round. Probably gonna choke in the 1st round desu.
https://streamable.com/lkcmu0
damn kd is fucking this...so lucky...
>weaptroon spent the last 3 weeks talking about weap gon git KD
Blud has never learned. Skitz really has no arc. Biggest retard of /nba/ history
>>149364867respect MJ bro
>>149364959Nah, the Suns should keep him
Brooks, Booker, and Green is not a bad squad.
It's better than Thompson, KD, and Senguin
>>149365025>spend weeks falseflagging as somebody else>โoh my God thatโs so embarrassing for himโ Real Heat fans didnโt want to give up the young core to build around a 36 year old that has ruined every franchise he was a part of
>>149362206 (OP)Anyone who thinks that the KD trade is bad for Houston is a fucking retard. If anything the Suns got fleeced hard. They traded a player that played 62 games and averaged 26/6/4 on 64% TS for 2 garbage players and a bunch of second round picks. Houston made off like bandits and now have KD as a second option and closer.
>>149365043Booker and Green are redundant. Shooker is also a fraud.
>>149365044>the inevitable i-it wasnโt me copeHe really had no arc.
>>149365058Yeah but are the Rockets contenders though?
>>149365058The narrative around kd is purely emotional. Dude is still elite
>>149365084How is Gayson Gaytumโs Achilles?
>>149365071Green is nothing like Booker.
The guy can't even shoot.
>>149365085they made the 2 seed as a team with no offense and took the curry butler dubs to seven games
impossible to tell before the season but they have a good chance
>>149365085they swapped green for durant, and with green they were the 2 seed. Itโs like when the pistons replaced mehmet okur with Rasheed wallace in 04
>>149365085they have temu jokic
they are going to rape the west
>>149365085They're better off now then they were with Jalen Green. They're atleast trying to contend
>>149365114In better shape than your dumpster fire leper organisation that every single player desperately avoids.
>>149364910His deep runs were with okc and ny. I don't see him having the break away speed to beat defenders like he used to. He might pair well with FVV though at Houston.
Idk that I've ever been huge on kd iso ball. He needs a ton of space to hesi. It hasn't been wild efficient since he was faster in his prime. He's not a downhill killer like greek and peak bron.
>>149364910Heโll definitely get much more respect if he wins a ring here rather than playing second fiddle to Wemby, but the Rockets arenโt gonna win if Amen doesnโt take the leap or Sengun doesnโt get his touch back. Sengunโs offense regressed a lot after he changed his body to become much better on defense, not sure if it was cutting fat or adding muscle though.
>>149365058He's old and Houston gave up a top-10 first rounder and 5 second rounders.
>>149365120He literally shot better from meme than Shooker this season. They are both just scoring guards and thus redundant.
>>149365193Most all time great players want to play in Miami with the weather, women, taxes and Spo/Riley. Giannis said he wants to play in Florida
>players want to play in Miami
>>149365197Heโs still insanely efficient
what's next for booker? kd literally killed his team
>>149365197>KD needs a lot of spaceWTF are you talking about? Guy is 6'11 and has like a 0.3 second release.
>>149364153Is it actually worse than the first one? I guess the first one at least had an awesome theme song.
>>149365105No. All >advanced stats are showing he is in decline and no longer impacts winning the way he used to.
>>149365225Even as an old man he's still better than 90% of the league putting up big numbers on insane efficiency. He's a second option behind Sengun, brings vet leadership and can close out games.
>>149365259The sad part is that they do but Miami cant offer anything good
>>149365259Dave Mustaine looking good
>>149365238>Giannis said he wants to play in FloridaWe doing this again? Shameless kek.
>>14936528826 points on 64% true shooting is elite no matter how you slice it
>>149365299Except the Rockets wanted Highsmith, Jovic and Jaime. The Heat wanted to retain their young core they have developed and compete simultaneously, we had a better package than the Rockets we just wouldnt sell the farm for a rental
>>149365238Yea Iโm cappinโ that.
Thunder gon wish they got KD after the Haliban strikes the capitol building tonight mashallah
>>149365120Drayboon buries wide open rainbow 3 jacks right when you think you're finally done with another season of the warrshits. His success is detestable.
>>149365313Grayson Allen catching strays by whoever wrote this article.
>>149365288Which advanced stats show him declining? 26/6/4 on 53/43/84 shooting splits with a 64% TS are All-NBA first team numbers
>>149365383the fact that the snus didn't even make the play-in this year
>>149365225>top 10 first rounder>literally #10 in a top heavy draft
>>149365364We're not talking Draymond, we're talking Jalen, the guy who just traded
You know, the fucking number 1 NBA story till tip off.
>>149365337>Highsmith, Jovic and Jaime. >young coreProbably the worst โYoung coreโ in the NBA. The heat are supposed to be one of the NBAs premier franchises?
>>149365326Didn't even make the playin so there's more to it than that. You are only looking at one aspect of his game because you are emotionally invested in Durant still being the star he isn't.
>>149365416>1 guy is supposed to carry the load in the westLiterally only joker can do it
>>149365337>highsmith>jovic>jaime>farmwhat kind of farm? shit farm? you might as well at least mention ware, he's better than any of those guys
rockets got fleeced
kd is 37 and not taking 10 million dollars of designer drugs a year to enhance his body like lebum is
he probably has half a season left of being decent he'll be like rockets barkley
This nigga talm bout some Haywood Highsmith and โyoung coreโ โfarm LMAO
>>149365416The suns traded away Ayton and CP for Nurkic and Beal. Those players are more responsible for the Suns being complete shit than KD. Budenholzer and Vogel being bad coaches also didn't help
>>149365496Bro think he can fool a franchise into trading for that garbage
>>149365491Rockets Barkley was great. But instead of 25, it became 18 with still elite efficiency and elite rebounding
>>149365383Winshares, BPM (both DBPM and OBPM), VORP, etc. all show the same thing. Even his TS is down from his peak years btw- he was 69% just 2 years ago.
>>1493652252nd round picks have even less value than normal for the next couple of years. Players who wouldโve been drafted in the 20-60 range are going back to college for NIL money. Rockets need to get Reed and Cam minutes this season anyway, so there was no room for a new prospect.
>>149365508ayton was a mental midget and who do you think was asking for beal to come to phoenix
hint: it was the same dude who asked the nets to sign nash as hc and trade for larden
Is this the young core weโre talking about?
Heat fans actually thought that the Suns would want their undrafted G-league scrubs for KD LOL.
is there any name in the entire nba that screams "bonafide scrub" more than haywood highsmith
The Heat are historically dominate because they dont trade away their youth for rentals
>>149365337i refuse to believe the suns wanted that shit man i really do
>The Heat are historically dominate
Bum will take the leap in just two more weeks
>got old ass KD
>got rid of Jalen Green
>sad to see Dillion go but we had people who needed minutes on the bench
>who cares about the picks Reed barely gets time as is, so no time for them to play at all
>most importantly, cucks the Spurs out of getting KD
Iโm content with this trade desu, having KD in the building also means we donโt really need Fred anymore as the veteran presence
>>149365551That's mostly because the surrounding roster around him was bad, the coach was trash and he was expected to be the first option. Look at Devin Bookers advanced stats and they're far worse
>TJ
>Wiggins
>Nembhard
>Hartenstein
We meme about 2nd round picks being worthless but both teams in the Finals are making good use of 2nd rounders. They are definitely worth more than they used to be for teams that know what they are doing. Giving up on an entire 2nd round for half a decade for a KD rental seems a little irresponsible.
>>149365677Naw. He's clearly an older guy who is declining and increasingly injured.
>>149365593I feel like people don't realize teams are aware of the heat buff scrubs and role player get, everyone knows once they leave they're instantly scrubs
see
>whiteside>nunn>strus>martin>vincenteven if kd is old and washed giving him up for a bunch of scrubs is still retarded
>The Heat are historically dominate
Skitz going crazy rn in the 'cord...
Bro talm bout retaining a young core and competing simultaneously when his team won like 2 games the entire rest of the season after Himmy walked out
Tank szn incoming for the weapshits
>>149365178Heโs more Pau than Jokic
Better watch out. The 2035 Washington Wizards will be dangerous.
>>149365673Al Manleet is still needed to run the offense unfortunately. Durant is a solo scorer. Reed and Amen need to git gud at that before Al Manleet can stop holding the team hostage.
>>149365683to be honest wiggins been playing like a second round pick
re really fell off in the playoffs..sad
>historically dominate
oh, im laffin
Wait, the Heat really thought they had a chance? KD made it clear he was only interested in Rockets/Spurs. Skitz canโt be that delusional right?
>>149365771They had a chance but they didn't want to give up Jaime Jaquez Jr
>The Heat are historically dominate
This is what historically dominant looks like, weapschizo.
Aint nobody want no jaime jaquez jr LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
โyeah i hear the bucks were tryna get jokic its a shame they aint put thanasis into the deal they woulda bit then fashoโ
>>149365800Nobody values Jamie and fucking haywood highsmith. Rockets had a better pick in a stacked draft class as well.
>>149365808more like prehistorically dominate
>>149364957No they didn't just choke, they gagged all over themselves. It was an all-timer really
>scott foster not reffing tonight
>>149365808own that fraud
>>149365683Retard, the Rockets were the 2nd seed and couldn't make it out of the first round. Giving up second rounders and trash for an aging All-Star that can get you buckets when you need them is exactly what they should be doing. The Rockets rebuild is over and they're in win-now mode.
>>149365854This is outrageous. It's unfair!
does houston actually believe KD is going to get them a championship in the west? lmao
>>149365864Trading young for old is exactly how you shrink your window for contention.
>historically dominate
>get swept in the first round this year
>>149365864True but theyโve shortened their window to next year and maybe the year after. Thats assuming KD can even stay healthy. Even with KD theyโre still worse than OKC and Denver
>The Heat are historically dominate
>>149365901The Rockets were one of the youngest teams in the league that people were clowning on for playing a shit brand of basketball. They brought in Udoka to coach and FVV and Brooks for a vet presence and made the 2nd seed. They traded their franchise bust and Brooks for KD. The Rockets got better and they fleeced the Suns.
>>149365948they didn't shorten shit because green and brooks are both memes. The rockets still have a fuckload more assets and young guys
tell me bout your game 7 eats
Cockshits fans thinking by adding KD they can just add 30 PPG to their scores this year. In reality heโs just going to take FVVโs shots. Even if heโs marginally more efficient thatโs not enough to make that much of a difference. Also, for as big of a meme that Brooks is, his hard nosed defense was a big part of their team culture.
>>149365901Vegas thinks people think Houston will contend because they now have the 2nd best odds to make the Finals in the Western Conference.
>>149365921Jalen Green does not play winning basketball. Giving up Brooks is fine and they donโt need the 10th pick when they play to contend.
>>149362302 Another team that shoots threes and does lay ups.
>>149366002They gave up all their "expendable" assets for a guy who will be 37 when the season starts.
>>149365973All those amazing assets that couldnโt win a single playoff series
>>149365901i see the vision
your team
who you are rooting for in game 7 and why
Pelicans
Pacers
I just don't like OKC. I'm also jealous that they were able to build a solid roster while my team is a disaster that never ends, makes me jealous. I prefer the Pacers to win this because they deserve it more honestly, and this might be their one chance. Not that they won't be good next year, but getting to the finals is tough and OKC has already shown themselves to be a future powerhouse in the west, so they will likely be back again in the next few years so I'd rather Indiana.
>>149365808>2 rings since 1986 (40 years)
>>149365808I feel like Bird should have won more than 3 titles. Was he semi-fraudalant?
>>149365985Fried chicken sandwich with garlic fries and a large coke
Dessert an hour after that is chocolate tuxedo cake
>>149365921>>149365948They never had a window with players like Jalen Green and Dillon Brooks being starters. Green is a bust whose game never improved from being a chucker and slasher. His contract is bad value for a player of his caliber. Brooks is a 3 and D wing that is overpaid and isn't good. KD brings in a vet presence and some much needed scoring.
>>149366062Wizards
Pacers because if they win that will mean 8 straight years of a team winning a championship with a former Wizard on it.
>>149365854Noโฆ say it aint so
>>149366062Pacers
My Pacies
I want my Pacies to win
>>149365985Salmon with spinach and white rice
>>149366081Bird was incredible but Magic and the Lakers were just better
>>149365850haha kill yourself retard
>>149365988>In reality heโs just going to take FVVโs shots. Even if heโs marginally more efficient thatโs not enough to make that much of a differenceFVV shot had a 38% FG% and 51.5% TS this season lol. KD taking some of his shots makes them a far better team
>>149366159All kd has to do is score the same as green but more efficiently, and the rockets are way better
If the Thunder lose they need a complete rebranding ASAP
>>149366081Bird got injured cutting his prime shorter. Plus the Lakers scamming the Cavs to get Worthy really turned the tides in the rivalry. This led to the Stepien Rule btw. But 3 rings is still all timer. Lebron did everything he could to cheat the process just to get 3.5 rings.
>>149366159He was lights out in the playoffs and they still lost in the first round
>and the golden state warriors get jalen green for jonathan kumingtard and moses moody
>>149366162https://fanspo.com/nba/teams/Rockets/11/draft-picks
What assets are you crying over? They still have 1st round picks that they can trade to make adjustments to the roster as needed. They traded a bust and Dillon Brooks for a guy that put up 26/6/4 on 64% TS. That's a steal.
a lot of cope from niggas terrified of the rockets itt
I hope siakek does the needful desu okc fans been talking shit on KD and westVISHNU talm bout โshai chet jdub gon do what they couldnt doโ aight bet
>>149366062Pacies
Pacies
I would never ask for anything ever again if the Pacies win this championship on the anniversary of Reggie Miller's draft day
The full circle being completed would be biblical
I genuinely hope this is Haliburton's first of many rings in his career and that he doesn't end up flaming out from constant injuries. He has brought Indiana to relevance with the help of Carlisle's coaching and his teammates and it's truly emotional seeing them compete in a game 7 25 years after this franchise failed in the Finals. Bringing it home would also help Indiana celebrate Jim Irsay's passing too.
Just so much riding on this franchise this state and in general man. Most of all let James Johnson retire with a ring!
>No Foster
>No Brothers
>No Zarba
reffiechads...
niggas unironically defending Jalen Green. What the fuck are you doing
>>149366275Look at Jalen Green's playoff numbers. They replaced that bum with KD. I genuinely don't understand what the debate is even about here. The Rockets fleeced the Suns and people are wondering if was a smart move by the Rockets lol
>>149366062Pacers
Pacers
go Pacers
>>149366336>3.5 hours earlykys
>>149366335>t. doesn't know ball
>>149366062Lakies
OKC
We kneel to Godruso. But Pacies winning would probably lead to the most changes in the league which is the more interesting outcome.
>>149366062heat
thunder
love me some zest
>>149366062>6ers>Pacers b/c fuck OKC
>reggie miller was drafted on this day in 87
oh shittttttttttttt
>>149366416>starting lineup of 5 SGsC: Brooks
PF: Allen
SF: Beal
SG: Green
PG: Booker
>>149366416Their new #10 pick in this year's draft will likely address that
>>149366081He only had like 7 healthy seasons
>>149366356Itโs not whether they got the better of the deal (they did), itโs whether that was the best deal to make. They blew their wad and are still only the third best team in the west, and now their window is the next 2 years and thatโs it.
How come retarded americans cant spell the word "dominant" ? you niggers realize its not "most dominate" but "most dominant"? are you people genuinely this retarded?
>>149366509yeah but at least we dominant basketball
>>149366416this could be ok if they could flip Beal/Green for stuff.
>>149366509He's from Florida what do you expect
>>149366523dont @ me if you cant reed,rite, or spale
>>149366533>flipping Beallmao
>>149366496FVV (overpaid)
Jalen Green (bust)
Dillon Brooks (trash)
Amen Thompson (good young player)
Sengun (their best player)
Jabari Smith Jr (disappointment)
Tari Easson (good young player)
Reed Shepphard (looking like a bust)
Cam Whitmore (decent)
Steven Adams (overpaid bum)
Who could they have gotten later on down the line to improve the roster? Giannis?
>>149366489There's almost no power forwards in the drarft lottery this year, you'd have to pick a guy like Asa Newell 10 spots higher than he should be drafted to get him at 10
>>149366621Beal is forced to accept a trade now. He's in the last year of contract before the player option and they brought in a player that's going to take all of his minutes. If Beal wants to opt out of his player option and play for a larger, long term extension then he has to accept a trade elsewhere
>>149366770Whoever trades for him will just cut him and that's the end of his career. Better to ride it out on the Suns
>>149366770there is 0 market for Beal on his current deal so it's crazy to even be thinking about an extension. Beal is going to take these years of being grossly overpaid then ringchase for vet mins
who's most likely to no-show this game 7??
>>149366884chud "54 from treball is ode shooting hang pulls" holmgren
>>149366884Jokic with defense/athleticism would be the undisputed GOAT, Haliburton
>"beal should totally opt out of his horrible 110 mil/2 year deal and go get a way better deal on the market"
>>149366829>>149366847He's only 31 and he put up 17/3/3 on 60% TS lol. He's not completely washed he's just currently an overpaid 3rd option/roleplayer.
>>149366943Miami would give it to him
>>149366690>Reed Shepphard (looking like a bust)dude barely played his rookie season
>>149366770Or he can just stay and keep his player option
>>149366884jalen williams
>>149366943He should opt out of his 1 year $50 million option to 3 years $70 million. That's less than players like White, Herro and Hartenstein make.
>>149367017That's a bad sign for the 3rd pick in the draft and playing behind a bum like FVV, no?
>>149365808Atleast half of those are literally all Russel. He is this shitty franchises, luckiest cheat code ever. I wont bring up the obvious of how he also played in the least competetive league ever objectively due to how playoff rounds work. Because 11 championships is still insane lucky bullshit
>>149366994nah he'll be like his buddy john wall
>"come on you guys i didn't retire yet i can still play please sign me to a vet minimum...i'll even take a 10 day"
>>149367176bite the pillow. it'll be okay.
>>149367098thats why they traded him. Reed is suddenly in the rotation and KD is their PF
>>149367221Either SGA wins the Adam Silver has his new young "face of the league" or the Pacers win and Siakam walks away with the FMVP making this "parity"era look like a complete joke
>>149366884hali of course
suns just fucking the league up
Beal NTC was generational trolling
>>149367391No theyโre not. Houston is going no where.
https://youtu.be/HyRCZurCBV0?si=MgCsx62o7It9NbR4
bopping to some Chucky Workclothes to get in the mood for game 7
>Pat Riley: I can turn G-leaguers into starting NBA players and make deep playoff runs! No I won't give up 2 of my G-league scrubs for KD!
That old fuck lost his mind
>>149367432of course he's a juggalo woop woop
>>149367174I think him or IT would be good for like 8-10 minutes he wasn't that bad on the Clippers
>>149366884Haliburton
Chet
Mathurin
Cason Wallace
Damn did yall see Jamal Fentanylquarium dunk a 3 pointer? Damn thats crazy
Thats wild
>>149366062Knicks
Was rooting for OKC stopped caring halfway through the series
>>149367776Damn did you watch Abedi N'Koso almost score a goal after running around for 90 minutes doing nothing? Damns that's crazy
That's wild
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md5: e94d5cf1e0f15c2f364e6a85b8acf3ed
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Lifelong Rockets fan since the KD signing
>hyped for game 7 but then remember doris burke
>rockets losing to the warriors before the trade
>rockets losing to the warriors after the trade
If the Thunder lose to today I might actually kill myself
>>149368081Buy me a Switch 2 before you go
>>149368081Make sure to double knot the rope maple faggot.
>>149368081RIP Ranesh. theres two billion more of you
C: Sengun
F: Durant
F: Amen
G: Reed
G: Vanvleet
Is this the most dangerous second round exit in the West?
>>149368081it's just a game. I highly doubt your life will change in any meaningful way one way or the other. If you really cared you'd be a betchad
Lakers should trade with whoever ends up drafting Derrick Queen or Khaman Maluach in a few days. Most of the teams in that draft range don't really need a center but will draft them anyway
>>149368153If either Sengun or Amen improves to at least 2nd team All NBA while the other improves from last year, they'll be at least CFs
>>149368153Who are the teams that can make it out of the West? Washed Warriors, Thunder and Timberwolves?
>>149362206 (OP)Oh boy, KD gets to ride the bus yet again. But seriously, did anyone think the Rockets were gonna keep Jalen Green after he completely shit the bed in the playoffs?
>>149368153no way in hell Ime starts both Sheppard and Fred. That last spot is a battle between Jabari, Eason, and Whitmore
>>149368213the problem was what team would want him
>>149368227Absolutely, as evidenced by the fact they had to give up SIX picks and Dillion Brooks on top of Jalen for a 37 year old KD.
Do I put money on >thunder -240
>>149363402Did you know you can report illegals who have a drunk driving conviction and ICE literally comes the next day and arrests them on federal charges?
>>149364707bron wouldโve averaged 40 as a jokic merchant
>>149365429but Jalen doesn't do anything in the playoffs. I guess I just defaulted.
>>149365085they couldn't even make it past the first round with the team they had. all they've done is given up depth in favor of getting some old crone thats probably going to be injured for the yoffs next season.
>>149368081ill make sure you do
Dillon Brooks is valuable on a contending team and I'm tired of pretending he's not.
>>149368528>Resident Choki-sexual still mad about getting BTFOlol
>>149364556Denver falling ass backwards into a multi-time MVP despite their is such a pivotal moment in league history. If the Nugs don't accidentally stumble into Jokic with a worthless second round pick, are they even a respectable francise right now? And more significantly, what about the fact that literally every team in the league could have drafted Jokic? In most cases a truly generational guy is only really an option for the top teams in the draft but Jokic was there for ANYONE.
Sacramento could have had Jokic instead of Stauskas. Orlando had *two* first-round picks and could have had the Gordon-Jokic combo for themselves. OKC could have paired him with Westbrook in his prime instead of drafting Josh Huestis. The Cavaliers could have still drafted Wiggins in the first round, drafted Jokic in the second and had a LeBron / Irving / Love / Jokic combo. Hypotheticals are easy to imagine but this is different. He was available in the mid-30's! Everybody whiffed so hard on Jokic.
>>149368993its abundantly clear that absolutely nobody watched him play pre draft. i refuse to assume scouts are so bad they all passed on him. Embiid didnt even start playing until he was a teenager and he was an obvious high pick.
>>149368654he had a lot of boneheaded plays this playoffs i dunno man