he tried so hard and got so far edition

>Current and upcoming races
24.06 Giro dell'Appennino 1.1
03.07 - 06.07 Sibiu Cycling Tour 2.1
05.07 - 27.07 Tour de France 2.UWT
06.07 - 13.07 Giro d'Italia Women 2.WWT
06.07 - 13.07 Tour of Magnificent Qinghai 2.Pro
06.07 Argenta Classic - Deurne 1.1 WE
09.07 - 13.07 Tour of Austria 2.1
16.07 - 20.07 Baloise Ladies Tour 2.1 WE
19.07 La Périgord Ladies 1.1 WE
20.07 La Picto - Charentaise 1.1 WE
21.07 Clàssica Terres de l'Ebre 1.1
25.07 Prueba Villafranca - Ordiziako Klasika 1.1
26.07 - 03.08 Tour de France Femmes avec Zwift 2.WWT
6.07 - 30.07 Ethias-Tour de Wallonie 2.Pro
27.07 Vuelta a Castilla y Leon 1.1
02.08 Donostia San Sebastian Klasikoa 1.UWT
04.08 - 10.08 Tour de Pologne 2.UWT
05.08 - 09.08 Vuelta a Burgos 2.Pro
06.08 - 08.08 Tour de l'Ain 2.1 M
06.08 - 10.08 Trans-Himalaya Cycling Race 2.1
06.08 - 17.08 Volta a Portugal em Bicicleta 2.1
07.08 - 10.08 Arctic Race of Norway 2.Pro
12.08 - 14.08 Tour de Pologne Women 2.1 WE
12.08 - 16.08 PostNord Tour of Denmark 2.Pro
14.08 - 17.08 Czech Tour 2.1
15.08 - 17.08 Tour de Romandie Féminin 2.WWT
15.08 Grote Prijs Yvonne Reynders 1.1 WE
15.08 Circuit Franco-Belge 1.Pro
17.08 La Polynormande 1.1
17.08 ADAC Cyclassics 1.UWT
19.08 - 22.08 Tour du Limousin-Périgord - Nouvelle Aquitaine 2.1
20.08 - 24.08 Lidl Deutschland Tour 2.Pro
20.08 - 24.08 Renewi Tour 2.UWT

>Mecha-Rusbert's webm folders:
https://pastebin.com/kCgLX5Pn

>Bert van Koers' ciclismo quizzes:
https://www.sporcle.com/user/Bert_van_Koers/quizzes/

>Races info:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/
https://firstcycling.com/

>Free streams:
https://tiz-cycling-live.io/
https://cycling.today/live-streaming/

>Velodrama league code:
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Previous thread:
>>149315439

>>149362373
how is the rim holding on and is that a glued on tubular tire?

Well, well, the first half the season is now finished and we have one more entry into /WORLD TOUR WINE/ (bier) before the Tour starts!

Today we had TWO new classics -- one in Andora (which was interesting) and one in Copenhagen (which was soulless and shit). OBVIOUSLY the UCI decided to make the Copenhagen "Sprint" a WT-level race. Fortunately the race was disgraced by a completely fraudulent top 10, and there is already MUCH discussion at the highest levels about either demoting this race to 1.Pro or even removing Copenhagen altogether (the city, not just the race).

Despite frequent reassurances from the resident schizos that Danish wine actually exists and is good quality, I was not able to find any, so we are having a bier.

Carlsberg "Elephant" Premium Pilsner ($3.50)

While I've had Carlsberg a few times overseas (seems to be the default shit beer at pubs across Europe), I have never had the Elephant variant. Indeed, there is a charming elephant on the can which sports a nice pale golden color.

This pours a light honey with off white mousse, reduces quickly. The nose is a bit flat -- malt, corn, just the very lightest noble hops. The palate is actually nice, with nicely balanced apple/malt character and a pleasing bitterness to the hops. I was stunned to see that this is 7.2% which is totally absent on the palate, very nicely integrated alcohol.

Not bad at all. If I wanted to get shitfaced on beer that wasn't too heavy, this would be a good choice.

>>149363423
Beyond based post
also the Elephant comes from picrel which is the entrance to the old brewery not far from where the pedalton passed today

>>149363559
That are some sick elephant statues. Screaming for an urban yoof to come and spray blm or free palastine

/WTW/ Power Rankings before the Tour
1. Castello Romitorio Brunello di Montalcino Riserva (Strade Bianche)
2. Elio Grasso Gavarini Vigna Chiniera (Giro)
3. By Farr RP Cote Vineyard (Cadel Evans Race)
4. Mas de Boislauzon Chateauneuf du Pape Tintot (Paris-Nice)
5. Bertani Amarone della Valpolicella Classico (Giro)
6. Ruinart Blanc de Blancs (Paris-Roubaix)

POWER GAP

7. Guffens-Heynen “1er Jus de Chavigne” Macon-Pierreclos (Dauphine)
8. Avignonesi Grandi Annate Vino Nobile di Montepulciano (Giro)
9. Paolo Bea Arboreus (Tirreno Adriatico)
10. Cisteller Malvasia de Stiges (Volta a Catalunya)
11. R. Lopez de Heredia Vina Tondonia Reserva (Itzulia Basque Country)
12. Joh. Jos. Prum Zeltinger Sonnenuhr (Eschborn-Frankfurt)
13. Jean-Louis Chave Selection “Offerus” Saint-Joseph (Dauphine)

POWER GAP

14. Terrevive Bergianti Lambrusco Rosato Brut (Giro)
15. Kabaj Luisa (Giro)
16. Anima Mundi Cami dels Xops (Volta a Catalunya)
17. Tzora Vineyards Shoresh (UAE Tour)
18. Chateau Ste Roseline Cuvee La Chapelle de Ste Roseline (Paris-Nice)
19. Tormaresca Torcicoda Primitivo (Giro)
20. Grosjean Cornalin Vigne Rovettaz (Giro)
21. Sartarelli Balciana Verdicchio (Tirreno Adriatico)
22. Punta Crena Vigneto Ca da Rena Pigato (Milano-Sanremo)
23. Francois et Fils Condrieu Veauvignere (Paris-Nice)

POWER GAP

24. Antxiola Getariako Txakolina (Itzulia Basque Country)
25. Schenck “L’Alpage” (Tour de Suisse)
26. Serge Roh Cave les Ruinettes “Dole de Vetroz” (Tour de Suisse)
27. 3 Rings Barossa Valley Shiraz (Tour Down Under)
28. Maison Gilliard Les Murettes Sion (Tour de Romandie)
29. Wits End Luna Shiraz (Tour Down Under)

BIERS
1. Trappistes Rochefort 10 (Fleche Wallonne)
2. La Chouffe Blonde (Liege-Bastogne-Liege)
3. Duchesse de Bourgogne (E3 Saxo Classic)
4. Liefmans Goudenband (Ompoop)
5. Petrus Aged Pale (Gent-Wevelgem)
6. Bourgogne des Flandres (Brugge-De Panne)
7. St Feuillien Tripel (Dwars door Vlaanderen)
8. Carlsberg Elephant (Copenhagen Sprint)
9. Bavik Super Pils (Ronde van Vlaanderen)
10. Amstel Light (Amstel Gold Race)

>>149363749
They even have swatikas on their sides just as Carlsberg used to have swastikas on their beer bottles but because of something that happend in Germany they stoppes putting swastikas on the beer, but the elephants still have them kek

>>149363861
Were they hindu related or national socialist related swastikas? Those look like asian elephants.

>>149363925
Hindu

Riesebeek gets a red card mister, for 2 yellows in a stage race

2025
P-N
1.V Jorgenson, 6.U Almeida
T-A
1.U Ayuso, 14.V YatesS
Catalunya
2.U Ayuso, 9.V YatesS
Romandie
1.U Almeida, 13.V Nordhagen
Suisse
1.U Almeida, 20.V Lemmen
Dauphine
1.U Pogacar, 2.V Vingegaard
Itzulia
1.U Almeida, 17.V Kelderman
UAE's best runner was 6 times ranked higher than Visma's.
2024
P-N
1.V Jorgenson, 3.U McNulty
T-A
1.U Ayuso, 14.V YatesS
Catalunya
1.U Pogacar, 13.V Kuss
Romandie
5.U Ayuso, 20.V Staune-Mittet
Suisse
1.U YatesA, 9.V Kelderman
Dauphine
2.V Jorgenson, 17.U Soler
Itzulia
1.U Ayuso, 41.V Kuss
UAE won (in a relative sense) 5 times.
2023
P-N
1.U Pogacar, 3.V Vingegaard
T-A
1.V Roglic, 2.U Almeida
Catalunya
1.V Roglic, 3.U Almeida
Romandie
1.U YatesA, 11.V Gloag
Suisse
2.U Ayuso, 4.V Kelderman
Dauphine
1.V Vingegaard, 2.U YatesA
Itzulia
1.V Vingegaard, 7.U McNulty
Visma won (in a relative sense) 4 times.

>>149363861
>it's true
illegel

COPEnhagen Sprint was not that disappointing. Didn't have high hopes, so its doesn't say that much but still.

>>149364079

>>149364122
>Carls(((berg)))

>>149364092
It's a pancake flat sprint stage. It's kind of hard to make it more interesting unless you throw in meme stuff like gravel or cobbles.

>>149364615
What pisses me off is that there is loads of hills not far from København that can be used to make the race harder and the middle of Sjælland has wide open areas to be used for crosswinds
But DCU decided to use noone of it at all, this first version was a tourism race to please politicians

>>149364711
>politics

I feel you. Tour of slavland never does the cool mountain stages here because of disagreements with the local authorities or some shit( translation : they don't pay them enough).

>>149336126
Better on day two. May have caught this one at a bit of a dumb phase.

>>149364821
I noticed when i was at the race today that not a single private owned company was a big named sponsor, it was all cities and municipalities (tax payers money)
The people who paid for today are the same that paid for the TDF
They are delusional and dreaming and unless something else happends then this race will die when we have local election next year

>>149365295
lol I had a laugh about that as well. Fucking church ministry and culture ministry, and a bunch of municipalities.

>>149365295
>we have local election next year
You don't have faith in Rosenkrantz-Theil winning?!

>>149365495
I dont have faith in anyone, anymore
Our politicians are all retarded children playing adults

>>149365575
Surely you have faith in Jonas?

>Our politicians are all retarded children playing adults
It has never been different and it never will.

https://youtu.be/JO8OIS5fCPc
Good lad. Always rooting for him

>>149368194
shame he will be on pissma next yr

>Tao GEOGHEGAN HART

>Happy Almeida reacts to the win - It was a long way home after stage 1. A mistake can cost a lot. I am very happy. I rode a good climb and had a good time. My power meter was not calibrated because it showed large numbers, but I am very happy.
power meter not working when a super human effort was done. hmm I think I've heard this story before.

>>149368673
Yep, pretty remarkable that broken power meters are so common in the pro peloton considering they are pretty much bulletproof in practice

>>149366360
No

>>149368729
plenty of big sponsors still have utter dogshit proprietary powermeters that they thrust onto their riders. by big sponsors I really just mean Shimano

>>149369638
I guess that's true

>>149368673
>My power meter was not calibrated because it showed large numbers,
He had a jonas moment.

Non attention payer her. Have you talked about Pidcocks social media stunt with redbull? What the fuck is wrong with him?

I feel this should have been a /elite/ thread.
very disappointed tbqh

>>149370258
To be fair, I feel like this race was more about the death of Vauquelin's hopes rather than the inevitable victory of Joao

>>149370289
yes, but he has just made cycling history
he also became the second rider with the most wins this season
pretty good for a bidon fetcher

>>149370258
rusbert is the worst at making timely themed threads

>>149370418
He picks his favorite riders, but that's okay, we still love him. Also he was the Cassandra of /cyc/ regarding De Lie but we didn't listen

>>149370502
He wont fuck you no matter how hard to whiteknight for him.

>>149370548

>>149370608
im danish

Cyclisme

>>149372539
Jonas literally cannot comprehend this image.

>>149373214
I dislike Jonas because of his cowardly tactics, but I cannot deny that he is a tough mother fucker. He came back from a fractured sternum, collarbone, ribs, and pneumothorax to try to go head to head with Pogi at the Tour last year.

>>149372539
>>149373214
Pogi is pure ciclismo

>>149373962
Yes it's all a bit predictable but I love watching him ride.

>>149370258
>>149370324
we had a lot of /elite/ threads to be fair

is keto and cycling a match?

>>149378155
no. cycling runs on carbs, there's no way around it

>>149378171
>not sipping ketones

looking at the NC lap, he got decent chances

Remco just has that it factor

new Demi blog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFmBkT9PPKI

>>149378588
rabobank dopage doesn't wear off?

>>149378588
kwab

>>149378612
its unfair i cant hold her tender birb-ish upper torso :'(

>>149378625
>she's ready to gobble up Marlen's gigantic pastry

>>149378682
simmer down rusbert, you lost the cold war. its cardboard goulash and shoestrings for you.

>>149378407
H e made a good account of himself but it's up to him to stay at arkea.
He seems to have enough affection for the team. And he'll probably get a nice payrise after that performance.

He'll probably get a romandie or paris nice in the next year or two, depending on who shows of course.

>>149379122
bert arkea will fold next year

>>149379201
even if they weren't who would stay there.
he's going from chief burger flipper in mcdonalds to sous chef at michelin star

>>149379455
I keep forgetting they're actually WT team.

>>149373495
He's probably so doped he doesn't even know what's going on in his own life. Visma Lab Internal Voice © just tells him what to do

>>149378155
Sports and keto don't go together. You need carbs for quick energy release. Without carbs you need to burn fat which isn't efficient. When this happens this is known as the "man with the hammer" aka hitting the wall.
Your body can't release the energy it needs.

When sedentary you're not burning enough energy for this to happen, the fat to glucose conversion can keep up with expenditure.

>>149379697
Carbs? Roger only needed to eat a nice steak before a race, you kids are too spoiled.

Will we see a two yellow card suspension in the Tour de France?

>>149379722
Yeah Contador had some nice "steaks" too

https://www.indeleiderstrui.nl/wielrennen/duitse-docu-beweert-dat-wielerport-nog-altijd-geregeerd-wordt-door-doping-dankzij-aicar-het-nieuwe-epo

German documentary claims cycling still ruled by doping thanks to Aicar, the new EPO

17 years ago, cycling found itself in the last major doping case to date: with Riccardo Riccó, Stefan Schumacher, Leonardo Piepoli and Bernard Kohl caught, it was a major scandal, but older fans still remember the Festina affair. Today, doping is more in the background, but a documentary by the German ARD sheds light on a potentially gigantic problem.

>>149379855
In the documentary Geheimsache Doping: Im Windschatten (Secret Doping Case: In the Slipstream), the doping discussion is rekindled by a number of whistleblowers, all of whom have a place in the cycling world. They tell their story, with the associated risks. 'A lot of people are afraid to talk', says a former professional cyclist who rode at the highest level. 'I know someone who wanted to testify, but he received death threats when the masterminds behind doping found out that he wanted to talk.'

The last time someone was caught with banned substances in the Tour de France was during the 2015 edition. Luca Paolini (Katusha) had to go home after testing positive for cocaine; in 2012, Fränck Schleck was caught with a diuretic. But the witness laughs at the remark that the sport is now much cleaner. 'If you believe that nothing illegal has been taken during the Tour de France since 2015, that's a joke. I was close to it myself and noticed that doping just continued.'

>>149379867
Is the substance Aicar the new super doping?
So what are the substances that are reportedly being used in the peloton? EPO remains a popular substance, so it is said. By microdosing it, that is to say taking undetectable amounts, one stays under the radar during doping controls. But the main culprit is Aicar. This substance improves blood circulation and a change in the muscle fibers, which is said to be enormously beneficial during endurance sports, according to the Doping Authority. 'People who are active in professional cycling say that Aicar was and is the choice in the peloton', says a whistleblower.

Initially, the substance was developed as a remedy for cancer, but also for cardiovascular diseases. Ron Evans, professor and biologist, is seen as the father of Aicar. From the beginning it was clear that the substance would not only be used in medicine, but also in top-level sports. 'It opened a door that has never been closed again', Evans confesses sadly.

>>149379876
The window of time in which Aicar can be detected is very short. The anti-doping authorities therefore do not really have an answer. But there are many similar substances available. 'If I were an athlete, would I take Aicar, knowing that it is on the list of banned substances? Or would I take a related product that is not on the list?', says Oliver Catlin, an American doping expert. He found no fewer than 166 other substances that had similar effects, of which only four were on the list of banned substances.

French doping expert: 'I cannot explain what I see on the road'

There are other experts who believe that the sport has indeed become cleaner. According to them, the enormous leaps that have been made in terms of performance can be explained in other ways than doping. 'The big developments are much more important than the advantages of illegal substances in the past', says Filippo Galli, product developer at Colnago. 'We have countless innovations: material, aerodynamics, weight, bike control, grip, comfort.'

>>149379887
Others remain highly critical, including Pierre Sallet. The Frenchman was an exercise physiologist at Tour organiser ASO, and was highly critical of Chris Froome's performances in the past. 'We know the limits of human performance', he says. 'We know what a person can achieve and what not. There are certainly grey areas, but at some point that becomes black, and then it is doping, 100%.'

In the time of Lance Armstrong, Sallet coined the term 'aliens' on the bike, something that is now used for Tadej Pogacar in particular. The Frenchman can do little with the current generation of super athletes. 'I can't explain what I see on the road. A normal man is between 1.60 metres and 2.20 metres tall. But the performances we see are sometimes as if someone is 3 metres tall.'

Roger Legeay is president of the MPCC, the organisation for credible cycling. He argues that the anti-doping rules are lagging behind and that is why no one is being caught. 'That is exactly why it is the job of the managers, the doctors, the team leaders and the riders. They have to do it. All the people in cycling: they are the ones who have to ensure an ethical and clean sport that arouses less suspicion.' However, the documentary also reports that there are still a great many suspicious figures in the professional peloton: 14 of the 18 WorldTour teams have someone in their employ who has been found guilty of dirty tricks in the past.

>>149379842
Skelly to

Ah, the yearly pre-Tour doping stories. Just journalists doing their job, I guess. A wonderful tradition; summer wouldn't be the same without it.

>>149379946
For me it’s the yearly Festina affair that gets dugges up

>>149379966
I'm surprised they don't mention Dr. Fuentes/Operacion Puerto. That was much bigger imo.

>everyone is doping
>everyone is taking new stuff
>wada picks one sudaka a year at random to prove everything is fine

>>149379982
too blackpilling gotta give the idea something’s being done

>>149379887
>product developer at Colnago
Laughable example to use. Of course the UAE cartel and related brands will be on the le heckin' nutrition and wheels gimmick.

>>149379897
>14 of the 18 WorldTour teams have someone in their employ who has been found guilty of dirty tricks in the past.
Only 14? Who's missing?

Aicar? Is this news from 2011?

Tiborgod finally mentioning the elephant in the room

>Wout VAN AERT +NAT
I kinda miss Belgium jersey Wout

>>149380126
sore loser (it’s totally true tho)

>>149380127
what's the Belgian profile like this year?

>>149380126
My favourite example was the extremely blatant motopacing of a 2 or 3 man break into briancon I think it was. The trackie french rider I forget his name. Was pulling them at like 60kph 3 meters off the front rider. Don't think they made it but that was hilarious.

>>149380126
>his right wrist was in insane shape

He's just like us.

>>149380153
it's this, I think

>>149380203
I guess even those small hills are too much for a certain somebody to defend the jersey.

>>149380210
oh besides, he's not even on the start list

>>149380203
probably the hardest NC in years

Benjamin Thomas that's the guy

>>149379887
>French doping expert: 'I cannot explain what I see on the road
Kek, it's the Vayer retard, isnt it?

>>149380242
Holy shit scruffy boy is alpha as fuck

>>149379887
>French doping expert
pottery

>>149380466
if you're French, you're automatically an expert de dopage

they used a part of the cycling schizo youtuber in the documentary kek

>>149380514
the absolute state of squeakers

>>149379897
>We know the limits of human performance
Kek. This has been said for centuries and it's always been wrong. From people thinking humans couldn't survive at more than 50kph to thinking that a 4 minute mile was impossible.
The limits of human endurance are far from known.

With Albert Philipsens performance in the baby giro it's safe to say that the young talent is already washed.

>>149380744
MØLLER ANDERSEN will be the next double-barrelled dane hopeful

>>149379855
>AICAR
Is this 2013 or something

>>149380587
well its only natural that the limits get harder and harder to surpass
at some point we'll all be waiting for a superhuman every couple of hundred years
I'm glad road cycling has lots of entertainment outside pure chrono performance, so many layers, betrayals, circumstancial alliances, grudges, equipment malfunction, rounder wheels, politics, or stunts, under the table deals, UCI ridiculous decisions, so much fun
I honestly pity people who prefer mtb or god forbid gravel, fucking losers kek

>>149380985
Don't steal my comment >>149380097

>>149380985
>'If I were an athlete, would I take Aicar, knowing that it is on the list of banned substances? Or would I take a related product that is not on the list?', says Oliver Catlin, an American doping expert. He found no fewer than 166 other substances that had similar effects, of which only four were on the list of banned substances.
Please follow the letters and words

>>149381041
Do you really expect me to read this shit

>>149381041
im sorry your attention span has a hard limit of 25 words mr baguette

>>149381066
see >>149381087

>>149381094
It's all speculative schizo babble. I don't care until something real is found

>>149381137
Demanding actual evidence instead of tinfoil speculation about doping?
Surely not!

>>149381137
But we've clearly reached the limit of human body

>>149381159
What limit. We can stretch him more

>>149379982
They mention Operation Aderlass. They managed to dig out someone now working for INEOS who was mentioned as an involved party in court evidence, but he was never prosecuted and just kinda forgotten about (kek). They also tried to buy a blood centrifuge from the very same Slovenian medical company involved back then and of course they agreed to sell. Not that any of this is prove for anything, lol.

>>149381137
>>149381041
Kinda like chemical dumping regulations for companies. Just dump it in the water but don't overdo it until we know if it's actually bad.
Or designer drugs. Just keep banning shit when we find out they made another variant thats 0.1% different.

Why not just forbid everything and have a whitelist instead?
Not that that would stop athletes from using non-detectable shit, but at least shit would be more logical.

People should shut the fuck up about grey area stuff. There's literal retards out there that thinks ketones is somehow suspect. Meanwhile, in much bigger sports, they get caught just straight up using steroids and nobody cares.

>>149381196
>They also tried to buy a blood centrifuge from the very same Slovenian medical company

Medical equipment company dares to sell medical equipment. Shocking, how dare they.

>>149381240
I just realized that thetwo top contenders for the TdF come from countries with a strong pharmaceutical sector. Denmark represents 3.8% value of global pharmeceutical exports, and Slovenia 2%, ranked at 11th and 14th respectively. Good permiance for such small countries.
Also fodder for squeekers.

>>149381199
>Or designer drugs.
This. That wouldn't go against the law or rules, and therefore wouldn't even technically be ''real'', but it would go against the ''spirit'' of the law.
t. legal Bert

I havent watched this documentary and have no idea how to weigh any claims made in it. I just wanted to post it here for all to read. Could be all slob to stir up some at least some Tour fever (since that is at an all time low after the Slovenian dopeur crushed everyones rekindled hopes in the Dauphine)
However, the problem with things like this is you will never hear something ''real''. Because if something ''real'' is actually found and brought out in the media then the house of cards has already collapsed for a team or an individual. The first moment something ''real'' came out in the media with Lancoid was really when that retard confessed on Oprahs couch. Up till than none of the rumours, which were plenty of, and theories- of what and how they did it were ''real''.

>>149381308
There was planty of real evidence that Lance was doped long before Oprah. He tested positive in 1999 and 2005, former teammates like Landis and Hamilton said he doped, journalists following US Postal team cars dropping syringes in trash cans in 2000, etc

>>149381372
+ Simeoni in 2004, Lance saying he works with Ferrari...
When he did Oprah he just stated the obvious

>>149381306
Its lonely at the top but we got each other.

>>149381372
Froome tested positive too. As have many others. UCI didnt make it ''real'' in Lances case in those years or Froomes case or in many others. The rest is all circumstantial just like
>14 of the 18 WorldTour teams have someone in their employ who has been found guilty of dirty tricks in the past.
>the doping discussion is rekindled by a number of whistleblowers, all of whom have a place in the cycling world. They tell their story, with the associated risks.
Dont get your panties twisted in a bunch though Frenchie. The dopingue discussion always stays interesting and relevant, its part of the sport and the entertainment.

>>149381419
There's literally nothing on the current peloton. No positive tests, no testimony, no investigation, nothing. Until there's something to talk about it's not an interesting discussion

>>149381446
>There's literally nothing on the current peloton. No positive tests, no testimony, no investigation, nothing
Bold statement

>>149381466
prove him wrong then

>>149381472
Thats the point i was trying to make, once such things are out in the public most often there is not a discussion anymore but established facts/ penalties/convictions etc.

>>149381526
Look you couldn't remember how much doping was out in the open before Lance did his Oprah interview. You think like a conspiracy theorist, clawing at any little thing you misremember or misconstrue. It's not interesting because there is nothing to discuss (yet).

>>149381589
In the same regard you couldnt remember how many people were dismissing dopingue insinutations and rumors in those years.

is there a publicly available list of active riders in the pro peleton who have previous convictions of dopage? in the documentary they said that 14 WT teams have between 1-8 (Bahrain) "ex"-dopeurs actively in their roster. I need names

>>149381750
https://www.cyclisme-dopage.com/

>>149381750
van etvelt
skjelmose
troon aerts (very guilty and now back to his old ways)
super mal (very questionable wada ban)

>>149381750
https://www.cyclisme-dopage.com/chiffres/iccd2024.htm

>>149381778
I like this site

>>149381778

>>149381750
I think they mean including staff

apparently Fignon pulled an allnighter on colombian marching powder, and without sleeping a single second he went racing the next day and won.

this site is a goldmine kek. apparently one of the jumbo guys was selling MDMA

That schizo site mentions Eddy Bouwmans for Visma. Looked it up on their site and he is a "Freelance hospitality coördinator". Also he was known for NOT going along with dopage and having to retire early in the 1990s.

>>149381219

>>149381951
Well yeah, Bobridge ended up in prison. Like this other Australian you might remember...

>>149381966
why are they even posting this? I thought the UCI banned CO2 dopage

>>149381966

>>149381966
>>149381983
what the fuck

>>149381998
just casual CO-rebreathing, nothing to see here move along

>>149381983
>Unable to cope with yet another loss, Vingegaard is euthanised.

they really stop at nothing - even heckin' caffeine

>>149382079
Literally caught in the act of ordering an espresso

>>149382079
legalized only in 2004

>>149381983

>>149381983
>>149382103

>>149381957
>It wasn't until 1994 that he used EPO. On three occasions. He didn't like it, and neither did the cortisone he occasionally received. He regularly took testosterone, especially after difficult races, to help recovery. He got it from the team doctor. Three times he received EPO from Dr. Peter Janssen of Deurne, his personal medical supervisor at the time. "Janssen thought it was important that my hematocrit should not exceed 50. You heard in the peloton at the time that Mario Cipollini thought racing with a hematocrit below 55 made no sense. But Janssen didn't agree. He was thinking of the health risks. I had three EPO injections over a month and a half, but I didn't notice much effect on the bike either," says Bouwmans in a lengthy interview.

>>149381983
>>149382103

>Jalabert
Imagine seething so much about the antidoping of your country

>>149382120
>You heard in the peloton at the time that Mario Cipollini thought racing with a hematocrit below 55 made no sense

Those were the days

>>149382120
So basically nothing in those days. I am sure even your squeaky saint BASSONS tried it once

>>149382231
His doctors and doped teammates always said he never took anything. Same for Moncoutié

Sulphurous teams ranking (Sportschau Ausgabe):
>1. Bahrain (8)
>2. Astana (5)
>3. Movistar (4)
>4. Lidl (3)
>5. Bora / EF / Jayco (2)
>6. Visma, too many others to name (1)
>7. Alpecin, DSM, Wanty, UAE (0)
Thanks for proving that UAE is 100% clean.

>>149382258
Well whatever. In any case, Bouwmans drives some guests around during the Tour. That is all. And this is evidence of DOPAGE according to that squeaksite

THEY KEEP GETTING FASTER AND FASTER---

The biggest doper and the biggest cleanman of 90s french cycling are both from the same town

>>149382315
Or not. How I hate intentionally misleading graph manipulation.

>>149382315
I wish this was better tracked by journalism but they rather talk about drama

Interesting name
https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider/dieu-l-homme-mazama/start

>>149382360
How did you even find this

>Hincapie’s Modern Adventure Team Targets UCI ProTeam Status & Tour Ambitions
man, I can't see shit with photos like that

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/we-hope-to-be-americas-dream-team-george-hincapie-launches-us-team-with-eyes-on-tour-de-france
>Modern Adventure Pro Cycling intends to be racing the Tour de France in ‘five years or less’

>>149382371
Typing mazam in the search bar

Everytime a french rider was close to win a WT stage race
https://x.com/PorteursBidons/status/1936829103140700373

>>149382425
does this help

>>149382500
somewhat

>>149382103
now turn the pillow one of the anime weeb pillows

>>149382315
you're comparing steel bikes on 23mm tires with aero everything on 32mm tires here

https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider/tom-paquet/start

Tom Paquet not to be confused with Tom Paquot

>>149382459
mostly cockblocked by time trials

>>149382556
>nooo you just can't spend a quarter of a century on improving equipment and training and see an overall improvement

If they are going to create shitty new races like the Cope Sprint then they need a novelty like everyone rides bikes from the 1960s

>>149382651
2bh it would be very interesting to see what time could Pog show up, say, Mont Ventoux on a bike from Merckx era

>>149382908
yeah I was wonder what the Roubaix times would be on the shitty old bikes

>>149382315
>>149382339
To be fair, if there's one race where mechanical advancements actually matter it's PR

>>149383213
You'll probably notice the difference climbing with a 6.8 kg bike vs. an 11 kg bike

>>149383319
Tbf they are climbing with <7kg bikes since the late 90s

>>149383371
gearing matters here massively too

>>149383395
And comfort

>>149383395
Gears have ruined road racing. The modern rider is a fruity individual who cannot handle to climb at 45 rpm.

>>149382556
It was more about the graph being misleading: >>149382339
They cherry picked the time frame and squished the vertical axis to suggest a strong trend, but if you look at the big picture, it's much weaker. Already in 1964 there was a 45.1 km/h edition that would be the fastest edition for the next five decades, which they conveniently left out of the picture. They even left out this very year's edition, which just so happened to be slower than last year's.
And the voice overlay speaks about "comparable routes", but makes no mention of the huge impact of differing wind and weather conditions and race tactics that obviously makes comparisons over the years difficult. Just disingenuous shit.

>>149383435
There were almost no cobbles in the Roubaixs of the 60s THOUGH

>>149383455
Thats just an additional argument for germberts point.

>>149383421
>men furiously mashing on their pedals up rampas inhumanas
that bit of heroic flair in cycling has been lost, yes

>>149383582
And with the helmet, glasses and skin tight clothing modern pro cyclists look more like robots than men

>>149383582
Actually I was bemoaning that derailleurs became legal in '37.

>>149383582
>Bald Bjarne on the big chain ring up Hautacam

>>149383582
No sunblock either!!

>>149383640
It was a 48t or something right?

>>149383651
Dont know

>>149383421
straight facts
that's why Pog doesn't have nice legs like this guy. spinning up the hills like a little girl

>>149383741
Those are some sexy legs, wish cycling would bring back sexy. Seems so sterile these days. Cipollini would never. All we get is twinks with their shrivelled willy's going for a piss. Not sexy at all.

remember that time when amanda coker rode 100.000 miles in 423 days by just repeating a 7 mile loop over and over? that was an impressive feat

>>149383871
>amanda coker
what the fuck

>>149383900
>Bert's Big Adventure

>>149383871
I remember a young girl doing something autistic like that. Also in Florida. Think she was still in school.

>>149383871
>100.000
that would be 380km per day, for 423 days straight. she needs to do over a 31kph average if she rides 12h every day non stop

"I'm delighted with how things have gone over the last week. I've found the Arnaud I know. With desire and full of determination. He's feeling good ," Stéphane Heulot rejoiced on RTBF.

The CEO of the Lotto team confirmed to the public service that the 23-year-old rider will indeed be at the start of the Tour de France in less than two weeks: "He will be. The timing was tight. There was the false start in Cologne (he abandoned after 40 km) , the setback in Mayenne (De Lie was ill and did not start). But he did not have a forced break in his training. Otherwise, he would never have finished the Tour de Suisse, given its difficulty […] He is ready for this Tour de France. I prefer to see the glass half full. He arrives with freshness. He wants to prove a lot of things. Starting next Sunday in Binche."

In France, De Lie will be joined by Lennert Van Eetvelt and Jenno Berckmoes (recent winner of the queen stage of the Tour of Belgium), who will be the other two protected riders of the national lottery team. "Our leadership will revolve around these three riders and we will complete the team with the support they need."

>>149384079
holy shit she actually did that. _how_ is that possible?

>>149383871
>In 2011 Coker was hit by a distracted motorist. The crash threw her 50 feet (15 m) and knocked her unconscious, leaving her with brain and spinal injuries. After recovering, she resumed cycling in 2015

>>149384095
She rode a lot of hours on a flat loop, some solo, some drafting, some on a road bike, some on a TT bike, some on a recumbent. Every day about 10-13 hours at average speed of 20mph

>not even a real pro cyclist

>>149384085
where do I place bets on which stage he DNF's

Why are women so strong in ultra endurance cycling but not in road racing?

>>149384085
>>149385693
What is his issue? A mechanical in the brain?

>>149385701
Their physiology suits ultra endurance more

>>149385701
Maybe less fast twitch? Higher fat reserves? I knew the dude attempting it in Britain. Great guy. Completely nuts, autistic clearly too. Did really well but got hit by cars and motorbikes which ruined him.

Doing a 7km loop is bullshit anyway, it's no considered in high esteem by people who do that sort of events. The point is to go out and ride around the country or the world. She may as well have been on zwift as far as they're concerned.

>>149385825
>>149386427
So UCI needs to stop the short races for the female peloton and +300km stages.

Did a 45 minute ride this morning and rode to and from dadbergs TT and warmed up with him. Almost 3hrs on totally untrained illness recovering legs. Probably 220ftp right now at a push.

The arse is extremely painful. Somewhat dehydrated. Fighting to hold the wheel was gruesome. But all very enjoyable.

>>149385701
Because after a certain distance muscle mass, VOMax and all the other things that men score better at stop mattering and psychology become the overriding factor for success.
And despite what /pol/jeets think, women are just as good as being stubbornly determined as men.

>>149387205
It's suggested their pain tolerance is naturally higher on account they literally shit a watermelon out their cunt, this is the theory that makes me believe they're better. Endurance is 95% mental at those levels.

Grand Junction to Moab is a fucking awesooooooome ride

>>149385701
Sometimes Grug die while hunting Mammoth and Grugette has to wait an extra 3 months until winter is over to go find another Grug to bring her food

>>149383871
I'm pretty sure I do 10k miles a year just going to work

Road/Casual cyclist here

Tried mountain biking today

Lol, no. Not for me. I do not need to be at those angles. I am not skilled enough for that.

And furthermore, more than 20 mph on a road bike I begin to get nervous.

I reckon this means I am not going to be "winning" anything in the bike world, you absolute psychopaths

>pinched nerve in neck

Oh let me tell you every pebble in the road was a shitty experience

>>149381172
le 6 x bodyweight sumo phenotype

I feel like this is because I grew up poor in a shithole

But it is absolutely fucking beyond me that someone would put so much effort into training just to have a body that any random construction worker could break in half without trying

I like riding my bike, but I also like overhead pressing my bodyweight and benching 300lbs

I think it's a rich person thing to autistically min/max something that doesn't directly relate to survival

You are fortunate that you thought it was acceptable for you to ever be so weak

>>149387955
Great thanks for stopping by

>>149387931
55th Yokuzuna Kitanoumi recovered from a career ending knee injury doing bicycle rides at night in secret from his master. Got him back to claim his last title. Imagine the watts.

>>149387955
>this is because I grew up poor in a shithole
yes. normal people do not have to worry about some neolithic concept of survival.

>>149388052
WELL FUCKING GOOD FOR YOU

French NC team composition is always funny. TotalEnergies sending 24 riders this year, 19+7 fdjs, 15+7 arkeas, 14+4 decathlons, 12 cofidis, and then you have the handful of lone riders from foreign wt teams in the mix. Fun dynamic

>>149388040
Imagine the descending—

>>149387743
did you?

>>149388397
I did, I'm not a homosexual so I don't actually track my rides so you must accept the slightly accurate red line as my route.

>>149388748
where did you crash?

>>149388913
I didn't?

>>149388982
werent you exhausted?

>>149387955
>something that doesn't directly relate to survival
But it does, cycling increases longevity, the evidence is clear. And I don't think the same can be said about huge upper-body muscles.

>>149387955
Just do both and don't starve yourself?

looks like there won't be TV coverage of Giro dell'Appennino. lame

>>149380744
>already washed
Maybe be so nice and hand him a towel?

>>149382315
>Degenkolb is still a top performer in this race to this day
This chart proves that Degenkolb is undeniably and without a shadow of a doubt the greatest PR cyclist in the history of PR, ever. Reminder he also won that tdf stage too.
>inb4; "some DSM Rider"
Go FUCK yourself

>>149387955
cool story bro

>>149394074
Is that Barry Bonds?

>>149379909
This is hardly evidence of advanced doping. I've done 9 w/kg for a minute in racing days (not after 300 kilometers but still).

>>149379897
Someone is always ready to say that we have surpassed the limits of human performance. They need to be reminded of Roger Bannister and the sub 4 minute mile, which was thought to be physiologically impossible and incompatible with life. Funny that they mention Froome, his long range attack in the Giro was held up as this zenith of doping accomplishment, now look at how it compares to today.

>>149379991
this

>>149383582
absolutely this

>>149394213
strava local legend barry bonds

>>149393826
He does have a unique talent for the race that allows him to transcend into something greater over the cobbles. I think we are overdue for a bigman sprinter to win Roubaix.

>>149394295
>. I think we are overdue for a bigman sprinter to win Roubaix
As long as the monsters are here it'll forever be a watt fest

>>149394295
Reminder that Faith Kipyegon is trying to run a 4 minute mile this Thursday. She has no chance. 4:03 at best I'd say

>>149394313
>She will be assisted by 'the next generation of super shoes' and male pacers to help break the barrier.

>>149394323
It's basically the same deal as when Kipchoge did the sub-2 marathon. Not an official record attempt, just a proof of concept.

>>149394323
>the next generation of super shoes

>>149393759
This is outrageous. I was just notified that /cyc/ office is closed today due to heat related power issues, so I have nothing to do all day. And it's going to be 41 degrees outside so I can't ride.

Maybe I'll watch some old races

>>149394332
What do you mean you can't ride. Are you a PUSSY or something

Today is a slow day, please post photos from 2025 that should be in the /cyc/ compilation that I don't already have.

>>149394332
41 is rough but manageable if you plan it right

https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/road-racing/tour-de-france/team-trainers-dont-know-how-to-solve-the-pogacar-problem
>Is it possible to bring a rider to the level of Pogačar? Performance gurus across the WorldTour are still searching for the solution on the eve of the Tour de France.

>>149394684
love how everyone referencing riders by surname, but Remco is just Remco

Seen this magazine at my local kiosque. But I don't know if it's worth the 15 Euro

>>149394886
> includes femmes zwift
Nope not worth 15€ since youre partly paying for something you wont read anyways

>>149394886
if you want some printed out profiles of the stages. I remember the original French version coming with a pack of trading cards.

>>149394939
>printed out profiles of the stages
I like physical stuff to read. I hate ebooks it's all a scam.

>>149394886
In Japan it costs 1870 JPY (11.11 EUR).

so let's see, I paid 6,70 Euros in 2023 in France for the Tour de France magazine.

>>149394886
>>149394994
I'd buy it, 2bh. always liked to flip through old magazines and artbooks I bought years ago. there's something charming about going down the memory lane in this fashion

>>149394994
this info is all in the public domain tho

oh great, more of "official" crap

This is actually a good team, UAE should be really worried

>>149396217
Affini
Benoot
Campenaerts
Jorgenson
Kuss
van Aert
Vingegaard
Yates

>>149396217
The only thing that matters is who can do the most w/kg during the three weeks

https://www.domestiquecycling.com/en/news/it-would-be-a-dream-race-director-hopes-pogacar-and-vingegaard-ride-la-vuelta/

this fucking knee

>>149396384

>>149396390
please censor it, this is nsfw

WHO could be behind these attacks

>>149396237
Wow that's a lot of guys to move around like they're actually going to do anything when Pogi does 7.2 w/kg for an hour

>>149396396
what names are they gonna put here?

>>149396456
Mossad

>>149396504
Bert (zonder foto)

>>149396504
Just give your email adress to Plugge and order a t shirt bro

Visma also has non shit jerseys this year as well, its over for pogi

>>149395080
Like reading old National Geographic magazines from the 70s and 80s, well before my time but fun to reminisce about what could have been.

>>149396504
Mehmet Şampiyonbisiklet

fucking open up the velo floodgates already veloman
IM READY

>another 195 bagged

>>149397276
Is that all it takes to get these jobbers to ride?
"Start producing some results or you're all out of a job next year" ??

>S-Works Torch Remco

>>149397528

>>149397528
only $700!

>>149396456
Unironically Russia. FSB has been going hard on hybrid warfare, which mainly consists of DDOS attacks and roping dumb boomers into starting fires (the same reason why you voted for putin, kinda funny).

>>149397595
>We're going to undermine their country, culture, and economy starting with Velogoomblers and working our way out

>>149396217
Teams don't matter against pogi

BLOG POST
To celebrate Mads Ps pathetic result in Cope-nhagen sprint the other day i went to visit a Lidl for the first time in a while.
And i have to say i was surprised at how great the prices are. Germanic capitalism at it's finest.
No #Metteflation
Danish discount stores can't compete
Every worker there was African btw
If Mads P gets some discount or what ever shopping in Lidl i can understand he's getting fat
If they were Treak-365 he would be riding in the Tour
But yeah i'm winning the Super Clasico overall without having watched cycling in years
its so easy to win i can't believe you nerds can't win it. pathetic

>>149397862
Team tactics really matter if going for boni sprints or trying to pick up random stages.

There's no amount of teamwork that can overcome pure W/Kg on a TdF climb or ITT.

>Oscar Riesebeek is the first pro cyclist to receive a suspension under the UCI’s newly implemented yellow card system. He will receive a seven-day racing ban after being slapped with two yellow cards during the Baloise Belgium Tour.
ha. ha.

>>149397998
is that seven work days or?

>>149397998
up there for one of my favorite cycling webms ever. it's just so outrageously funny

>>149397998
>Notifying the riders behind him (there are none) about the road furniture coming up

>>149398016
calendar days. kinda pointless in his case. it was the last stage so DQ doesn't matter.

>Riesebeek’s fall and double yellow cards mean he will miss the Dutch national championships on June 28. His suspension is expected to run from June 23–29.
>“I accept the consequences of my actions. Of course, it’s disappointing to miss the nationals, but looking back, I realize my behavior in the race was not only wrong but also put fellow riders at risk,” Riesebeek said Monday. “And that’s something I sincerely regret and apologize for. The rules are clear. If they are applied consistently, I fully respect that. I’ll now take some quiet time to recover and prepare for my next goals.”
>Riesebeek did not finish the stage, but he would have also faced disqualification for a second offense during the same stage race if he had crossed the line.
>Team officials Monday said it accepts the UCI decision, and confirmed that Riesebeek did not suffer any fractures or serious injuries in the crash.

>>149398060
so if nils politt [still has a yellow for next 15 days] gets a card in the first few days of the tour he won't get DSQ? would be funnier if he did

>>149398078
No, it's 2 yellows within the same stage race

>>149398032
>the road furniture is his cowering body

>Visma saying they also want to target stage wins in TdF
It's over

>>149398130
still won't bring kooij or brennan so they don't really mean it

>>149398130
pure fud

>>149398139
WWW

>>149398139
>brennan
>bringing 19 y/o neo-pro to a fucking TdF
no way

VAN DIJK unbelievably washed, BROWN retired, a rolling ITT in Africa, and new forms of Swiss dopage. 2025 is the year of Marlen in Rainbow

>>149398149
true

>>149398165
she broke her scapula + concussion three weeks ago. imagine the dope she's on to be back in three weeks at 38 kek

>>149398202
I had no idea. Critical hit at a local crit, apparently

>>149396396
Yates' bike in particular is an abomination

>>149398165
inshallah

>>149397793
What can I say, they are pretty bad at their job.

>>149397545
>Brust raus, Bauch rein

>>149398349
he'll turn into Porte mode the moment he retires

>>149398445
isn't he still doing insane volume on the bike and with swimming?

>>149398026
not even the funniest this yr imho

>>149398608

>>149398650

How thoughtful of them.

>No Mads
>No Bjerg
>No Fuglsang
>No Valgreen

>3 weeks of "Jonas might still make it" media narrative while Pog has a 15 minute lead and dumping him on every climb


I am NOT going to watch this shit this year, holy shit what a joke

>>149399645
Watch the first week for some grug kino

>>149399791
grúgoire that is

kek

>>149401469
>portubert doing the nyt wordle
cultural soft power

>>149401469
Impressive...

>>149401469
For me it's either WOULD or CREATE every starter

>>149402404
im an ADIEU sort of guy

For me, it's IOTAS

boy we desperately need some racing to discuss

>>149403198
the prestigious Kwik Trip Tour of America's Dairyland | Wilo USA Cedar Creek Classic was on today. won by SIMMONS no less. riveting stuff.

>>149403399
For me, it's the Cheese Wheel Classic.

>>149403418
>giro d' grafton
>tour de pear

confess

>>149403756
I ride with flat pedals and normal shoes.

>>149403756
Really nothing to confess. I abide by EVERY SINGLE ONE of the Velominati rules.

https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider/viktor-rapinski

Before Vine there was this guy

>>149405745
suspicious

Andrii Ponomar, remember the name, Padun will become a distant memory.

>>149406687
he's no TSARENKO

>>149403756
I haven't ridden a bike in 3 years

>35 y/o non-cyclist
he will be lucky to finish the race
https://x.com/LidlTrek/status/1937483362823708918

>>149409805
have they told him he's not allowed to use the motorbike

>>149409805
ONE AMATEUR SHITTER VERSUS 2X ASCENTS OF THE KUHTAI. WHO WILL WIN

>>149409805
If we're doing this then get Bottas in the peloton, he competes in gravel races already

>>149409805
but think about the mad descending and cornering skills he must have

>>149409955
will make it all the funnier when he gets collected and is out for the motogp season

>>149403756
I'm honestly really bored of riding a bike and if I could think of some other kind of outdoor workout that's solo, free, doesn't require driving somewhere else first, and isn't running then I'd probably do that instead.

Is the Specialized Rockhopper expert 29 for $550 a good deal?

>>149410104
Gently used boomer special

>>149410104
Terrible deal, this bike is 10 years old and cost less than 800 euro back then. Just buy a new entry-level hardtail from spez/trek. Contrary to road bikes mtb have improved quite a lot in that time line

>>149410118
I mean the rockhopper expert cost 750 new on spez website

>>149410118
>>149410142
thanks but I cant order a bike online, im not sure my size. luckily there are trek and specialized stores here locally, i need a test drive before i buy a bike.

why are there 5 models/generations of trek marlins being sold?

>>149410175
Just go to a store and ask to try. Then when you know your size you can order online

>>149410104
https://austin.craigslist.org/bik/d/georgetown-specialized-rockhopper/7854557285.html
Boomer is too clueless to post pictures of any of the stuff that matters, so he probably just let everything rot. Suspension forks are high maintenance, unless you're doing legit mtb stuff just get a rigid hybrid with decent tire clearance if you don't want drop bars. It'll be faster with less upkeep. Looks like this is on sale for less money:
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/active-fitness-bikes/fx/fx-2-disc-gen-3/p/35003/

Or this one with a carbon fork and slightly better parts but only manlet sizes for $680.
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/active-fitness-bikes/fx/fx-3-disc-gen-3/p/35021/

>>149410193
During the crash they changed to "generation" instead of model years so they only had to make new shit once they sold all the old shit instead of every year like before. The other number is the spec level, so higher numbers have better quality parts but are still more or less the same bike.

>>149410222
the gen3 looks good, id like the 1x chainring. would still get a mountanbike as well

>>149409805
you now remember Nicky Hayden

>>149410546
And my boy Daijiro

New commercial for Croatian brand of bottled water just dropped. Did Pogacar chose the kid's helmet?

>>149410595
the perspective makes it look AI

>>149410595
did they coach the kid to ride like Jonas

>>149410104
https://austin.craigslist.org/bik/d/austin-specialized-dolce-bike/7860714545.html

Get this instead and spend the extra money on redoing the cables which will be way too long after lowering the front end two feet and also maybe get a new saddle and if possible wider tires.

fuck Wanty
I hope Girmay DNF on stage 1

>>149410595
pedo

>It’s too close to call the relegation race. But next year the top-3 ranked UCI ProTeams of this season will get automatic invitations to the major World Tour races including the Tour de France. In case they stall and get relegated XDS-Astana are well clear for 2025 with over 10,000 points this season.

>Next come Uno-X, also nicely ahead 5,916 points for 2025. But after them come Cofidis, Picnic-PostNL, Tudor and Arkéa-B&B Hotels in a mini-peloton in the high four thousands with 400 points between them. Q36.5 are only a few hundred points further back here too.

>It makes it hard to call which team gets relegated, let alone their fate for 2025. For example if Intermarché continue to struggle then their haul from this season may not be enough for automatic invites and they’d be competing for wildcard invites next year.

Wanty might not even get invites next year. Total Wanty death.

>>149410732
Arkea is folding and Total is [maybe] merging/folding they will get invites

>>149410595
Cute

Disasterous signing by LUND. What is he thinking going to decathlon the same year as Køhj.

>>149406687
Been aware for some years now. As have all attention payers.

>>149403756
I am riding me roadbike since 23 years and I still haven't consistenly reached a ftp of 300, which is massively embarrassing

it's officially over. Arkea and B&B Hotels won't sponsor the team next year. I don't think they could find another sponsors

>>149411360
Pirate bros. I still cannot find season 2 to stream and its been like a year or something

>>149411456
lookmovie has it

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this is the type of normie slop cycling fans want to read about and pay 49kr per month for
But ofc you have to be pretty dumb to watch pro cycling in 2025. Probably a lot of women watch
She was 16 btw

>>149411621
Everyone is 16 at some point.

Why's Adam Hansen such an idiot? Is it because he's an triathlete or is he actually trying to harm road racing?

>>149411380
All we need is a french superteam full of money and dopage so that a frenchman can win the Tour.
40 years ago this year

>>149411783
Decathlon-L'Oreal will break the French GC curse. If you don't believe in Seixas winning the tour, you don't believe in anything.

>>149379855
>>149379867
>>149379876
>>149379887
>>149379897
this is just Squeeking
don't listen to it
keep watching dopeslop

>>149411232
W/kg has been invented for people like you

>>149402404
I'm partial to penis

bought the new pcm

>>149411943
same ahah

>>149412020
it worth it

>>149412050
is that a question or a statement? are you the elephant drinker by chance?

>>149412064
well. is it.

>>149412091
Ofc it isn't (+1k hours in pcm here)

UAE documentary on the 2024 season
https://youtu.be/mBXAg2ZWNG0

not even in the menus yet and the first "connection error" kek this gonna be good

>>149412020
Aha - it looks like he's trying to give his fellow breakaway partners the slip!

>>149412020
I love the idea of a cycling management game but the gameplay during races is such shit. There's just no feedback on what you're doing

>>149412020
>cue schizo brit shitting on the new rendering engine

visma-bros, how could this happen to us

>Bertold Drijver
>of Green Riders
kek. finally something nice from name generator

>>149412491
>beaten by a pelican

Anyone been cycling in Norway? The fjords seem like they would have some kino routes, dont know about the infrastructure/roads/hostile cagers though

>>149411605
>lookmovie
Arrrrr. May yer sails catch fair winds, yer chest be full o’ plunder, and yer rum never run dry!

>>149412020
Are the riders still 100m tall in PCM?

>>149412812
>infrastructure/roads/hostile cagers
all miles better than you are used to

>>149412890
yes, and riding tt bikes like its the 90s.

>>149412994
>>149412890
please understand all budget spent on the TDF game saar please buy

>>149412994
There are mods for this

>>149413332
I'll have to check them out. The only mod I have used is the WorldDB.

we need them back in pro peloton

I need help Berts. Pls just tell me that the newest version is even worse than usual.

>>149413797
it's on unreal engine, so

What's even the difference between PCM and the Tour De France game?

On my ride this morning I passed a young man, maybe 18 or 20, going up a climb. As I went by and said hi he turned to me and went "Yes sir, good morning sir" with a slight bow of his head. I found that amusing as lately I've noticed clerks and such calling me sir instead of bro. Anyways this rider reminded me of my younger self, in the first summer or two I was riding. Loose basic jersey, no bike glasses; at that age I managed to save myself a bit by careful reading of The Rules, unfortunately it looked like this young man hadn't found such guidance on instagram or whatever. Anyways I moved past him up the climb and eased off after getting a gap of a bikelength or two. In my early years, if a rider passed me I would have dug deep to try and hold their wheel. This young man had no such hunger. Kids these days.

>>149363782
>>149363787
based

>>149412194
>that thumbnail
ill pass

>>149410709
>>149410732
>https://inrng.com/2025/06/relegation-june/
I hope Wanty has some sort of plan with Girmary but I'm not confident he's going to turn the season around either for himself or the team at the Tour. Milan is going to smoke him.

All these shitter teams need to take notes from Astana, they're just going out and getting after it. Did Total even put riders (runners, drivers) in the break during the Dauphine?

>>149414170
Total was in Dauphine?

>>149414170
>Milan is going to smoke him.
and Merlel is gonna smoke Milan

>>149414238
and jappe is going to shoulder them both into the barriers.

>>149414080
Kids today are more disciplined, his training plan probably said to stay in zone two and he wasn’t willing to do any more to hold your pace

>>149414170
Astana is doping, Bert

>>149414319
>yes Bert do more zone 2. Nothing will go wrong if you keep at it.

Being out of WT doesn't even latter anymore. Maybe for the sponsors that's it

>>149414238
>>149414312
Clearing the way for Groenewegen.

>>149414321
I didn't know that, you're telling me now for the first time.
>some of the worst teams are French
Perennial self-fulfilling squeaking.

>>149414181
You made me double check myself kek.

>>149414319
After years of watching the powermeter when I trained regularly and was fitter I now am back to riding by feel mostly. Vibes and soul. Pan y agua.

>>149414356
only if you're scoring enough to get invites to relevant races

>es la hora de /feelings/
with the nationals coming up I remembered former Portuguese TT champion (femmes) - Beatriz Pereira - to check what she's been cooking;
turns out she quit cycling last year because her dad died of cancer, and she says there's no reason to race anymore if he isn't there to cheer and hug her at the end :( she's a biomedical scientist and says she'll devote the rest of her life to study cancer and hopefully see or even help science advance on that field

Drinking an ice cold glass of this bad boy

>>149414975
love that stuff

>>149414975
Is it real Orangina with 15% of fruit juice in it or are you getting the German treatment with 4%?

>>149415082

>>149415129
Unfortunately the export one. Wish they'd sell the real deal here.

>>149414170
All they need is Girmay to do a Astana on it and always be in the top 10. a few top 5s here and there. he could get 1000 points without winning a stage.

>>149415133
is this the real ad?

>>149415230
Look up Orangina ads, the deer is the tamest one.

For me it's her

sex sells

>>149415133
dont let /k/ see this add

>>149415133
>>149415289
>>149415304
>>149415230
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrkUDm9pnIw

>>149414975
When I drink an ice cold Orangina, it takes me back to when I was a kid and would go on summer holidays to Southern France with my parents. that was a very happy time for me

>>149415605
soon he will capitalize random words like one certain president

Looking to buy a new fan for the upcoming heat wave. Can you recommend me something that's not too loud?

>>149413797
I played a few hours tonight and look forward to doing again tomorrow, it has a good feel to it but I haven’t played since the 2022 version really

>>149413797
How old are you?

Cian Uijtdebroeks:
>Today a car, came out of his parking, crossed the road and hit me hard during training.

>Pls pay attention for vulnerable road user! If you don’t, you play with lives!

>>149416658
Kwab

>>149416184
Old enough

>>149416154
I will do my best to skip this year.

>>149416658
Would've DNF'd nationals and announced another break anyways

>>149416658
>visma faking injuries so their riders don't have to start the NC's again

>>149416184
What if I told you my first PCM game was pic related

Mr. Slick Rick

>>149417071
yes, that autumn Paris - Roubaix was epic and who could forget about the bonkers Milano - Torino.

>>149417071
A Velogame time that lives on in infamy

https://www.directvelo.com/actualite/121716/au-moins-dix-departs-chez-decathlon-ag2r-la-mondiale

>Almost all the riders at the end of their contracts with the French WorldTeam will not be renewed, DirectVelo has learned. Sam Bennett, Clément Berthet, Benoît Cosnefroy, Dries De Bondt, Dorian Godon, Victor Lafay, Nans Peters, Bastien Tronchon and Andrea Vendrame will no longer be wearing the colors of Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale. Geoffrey Bouchard has reportedly not received any offers either.
>In terms of new arrivals, Olav Kooij (Visma-Lease a Bike) will be joined by three riders: Cees Bol (XDS Astana), Daan Hoole (Lidl-Trek) and Robbe Ghys (Alpecin-Deceuninck). Tiesj Benoot (Visma-Lease a Bike) will also be on board.

Big happenings in Decathlon next year

>>149417303
Most of those I understand but Tronchon has been PAS NORMAL

>>149417303
They forgot the biggest signing; LUND Tobias

>>149417303
you have to be insane to want to be a pro cyclist

>>149417303
Tronchon must have some crazy blood values if they don't keep him

>>149417303
Wait, so they ARE renewing Sander DE PESTEL?

>>149417303
>Victoire LAFAY

well, /cyc/?

>>149417303
French teams giving up on French riders?

>>149417433
Padunesque

>>149417303
Are they getting a cash injection or a larger budget or something?

>>149417433
Visma can unlock him

>>149417466
Have they unlocked anyone since Jonas?

>>149417484
Brennan

>>149417448
I always ride clinchers

I tried tubeless because my new bike was set up that way when I got it, but I didn't really notice much difference in riding feel, and when I punctured that was such a huge pain in the ass I switched to clinchers. For me the tubeless juice is not worth the squeeze

>>149417462
I'm guessing these were all the contracts from before Decathlon came on board.
New sponsor clearing house.

>>149417484
Jorgenson and Laporte

>>149417303
but why? some of those riders are actually good.

>>149417575
They are french, decatlon wants to win.

>>149417603
it more looks like they rebuild the team to a grand tour team with Gall and Sexass. godon, lafay, nonce, tronchon, vendrame should easily find a new team. bert heh is useful as a domestique at a grand tour, so that's strange they don't keep him.
quickstep seriously should offload memco and get the one day riders from ag2r and become the wolf pack again.

Watching Unchained S2 atm which covers the 2023 tour. Looking back its crazy how quick the tables turned and how jumbo being so clearly the best team in 2023 to being so absolutely dominated by UAE in 2024.

>>149417734
Sexyass will break the French curse I hope.

>>149418166
You have to remember that pog had trained all wrong up until 2024.

>>149418166
It helps that a lot of the time Vismoids ride like idiots and chute while spinning for completely arbitrary corners..
I

>>149418292
So its the fault of (too many) painkillers and bad DSing.

>>149418242
No, im not talking about Pog or fishboy. More specifically their respective bottle servants. Its like UAE sucked all the energy out of Jumbo over the offseason

>>149417303
aww shit they gonna sign some BIG DAWGS

>>149418242
what are you implying

>>149418314
>bad Ds'ing

Yes well riding very aggressive is a duble edged sword. If it goes right you look like a genius.....but when half of your tdf domestiques die in a jobber race you have to ask yourself if it's really worth it.

>>149417575
Making space for even better new hires?
>it more looks like they rebuild the team to a grand tour team with Gall and Sexass
Gall is mid, Seixas still a kid. Pretty sure plan A for the Tour is sprinting with Kooij, maybe even green.

>>149418573
Pretty sure they want to build a GT team with all this investment, not be Alpecin-lite.

But who are they are going to sign? Literally the entire peloton is fradulent aside from like 5 guys who have long term contracts.

>>149418605
Remco wars soon..

>>149418605
they are mostly getting rid of old guys. I bet they sign a bunch of top young lads and hope one of them becomes elite

>>149418605
ayuso

which one of you was this?

>>149418661
you must be mistaken, that man looks Iberian. Ayuso is Oriental.

>>149418605
Well, I don't think Kooij would have signed if they didn't promise him the Tour. And I'm not saying they'll go full Alpecin, they'd likely still bring some GC rider like Gall, but they won't build the team around him (think Visma this Giro).

Any tips for a dark horse velo entry?

>>149418912

>>149418912
Alex Aranburu in green

You can thank me later.

>>149419030

>>149403756
I ride an endurance bike

>>149419259
but this is the best sort of bike

>>149419237
mongool op kop status?

>>149419237

>>149410705
not a bad price, but 51cm is too small, and i need a mountain bike, whereas i would like a hybrid/gravel bike (but dont need)

Decathlon still has some absolute garbage who they inexplicably gave multiple year contracts. Naesen has done nothing since 2019. Stan Dewulf is shit. Gianluca Pollefliet? Who the FUCK is that. Coincidentally all Belgian. What is this, Cofidis? Terrible

>>149420698
Naesen is a funny contract. I wonder when they signed his latest contract/how long it was for. He is such a rider from another era, but even in his era he wasn't "sign for life" material. I wonder if someone thought that once Sagan and like GvA retired, Naesen would just win all the cobbled classics. I'm sure the answer is even less logical.
>ynr 2016-17 gouden greg

>>149422348

>>149422490

VANDERAERDEN is BACK to defend his title - and with 3 major wins already this year, he's again a favorite.

>>149413448
Sexo

>>149419237
jej