Thread 149415400

Luka edition
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>>149415400 (OP)
>Luka
stopped reading right there, ant owns him

>>149415400 (OP)
>that look
You just KNOW

I also only want to be drafted by the Pelicans, Nets, or Wizards.

kd is aboout to get his 3rd ring and he still has no shawty

Da Goat

>>149415400 (OP)
Based Luka enjoyer beating the "eternal MVP" sissy

>>149415426
I’m not even concerned about bro as a prospect…I’m worried about his IQ based on his preference of teams

Bawb melty edish

>>149415427
he will give his rockets ring to his future wifey

http://youtube.com/post/Ugkx1t1lgQIJ0wkvrsvx8-TAK3DPemeWvBff
The day wardell saved the NBA...

>>149415444
GOAT of getting traded

6 hours to draft time. Hoping for some juicy trades. Boston, Brooklyn and okc are the likely candidates to move up

>>149415468
true, everything about him more deadset on securing his bag over winning should be a major red flag to anyone looking at a prospect. even all those UGA sellouts the Eagles drafted switched up to being focused on rings before their rookie contract expired.

>>149415426
Which is a smart move on Ace Bailey's part. He's a wing player that would have to come off the bench to play behind PG if he went to the 76er's. He would get the most playing time and shots on the Pelicans, Nets or Wizards and has a higher chance of being a franchise player on those teams than a 76er's team that's trying to contend now

>>149415494
>i never want to contemplate trading him
>this means he is getting traded

>>149415288
I'm not sure what you mean by projecting. I've provided evidence of his gameplay to back up my assesment of him. I believed I have proven that I have given a great deal of thought and consideration to his game, something that, it appears to me, you haven't done and have actually ignored all together. So no, I do not think I'm projecting any embarrassment I am feeling onto you, because I am not embarrassed. You may disagree with my take and that's fine, but at least I have providing evidence of why I think so.

I never said he was the next CP3 or Deron Williams, I was saying that if we are going to compare him to anyone based on skill set, it would be closer to CP3 and Deron Williams than it would be Peyton Pritchard. From the beginning I have also said his draft position and the strength of the draft he was in is irrelevant in terms of projecting his NBA future, yet you keep bringing that up. At first it was "he was #3 because it was a weak draft", and then it became "he was #3 because of the UK guard tradition". So which is it? Time will tell how he develops and this is a conversation we'll revisit at the end of next season. For now I don't know what else to say.

>>149415300
His argument, which he has changed a few times, was Reed only went #3 overall because of the Kentucky Guard tradition, and I believe I debunked that. To me it wouldn't matter if he went #3 or #30 as far as his NBA projection.

Regarding the draft being weak, we can't project a draft until about 3 years after the fact. But I'm not so sure it's going to be as weak as everyone is making it out to be. Castle, Wells, Ware, Matas, Clingan, Risacher and Missi all started to turn it on at the end of the year.

Cooper Flagg has a twin who also plays basketball, how do you get mogged so mad having identical DNA? That's not fair at all.

Drawing fouls is the purest and most skilled aspect of the game

>>149415509
and that's where I'm out as a philly fan that just watched all those eagles players willingly make sacrifices in the short term to secure long term financial security after winning a championship.

>>149415500
>everything about him more deadset on securing his bag over winning should be a major red flag to anyone looking at a prospect
That’s only a small part of it. If you wanna force yourself to a stable franchise like Houston, OKC, Clippers…I get it, you want a great infrastructure that’s been proven to draft & develop at a high level. But the fact that your only options are legit poverty franchises is absolutely a red flag.

I'm ready for tonight, Wizbros!

>>149415513
these reporters are getting too pushy with their questions these days

>so um, sir, what's the plan for this offsea-

"ANYONE GETS HURT I'M TRADING JOKIC, BURNING DOWN A SCHOOL BUS, JOINING THE US GOVERNMENT GROUPCHAT AND BOMBING SOME HOUTHIS"

>>149415426
As I've mentioned before, he really wants to go to DC and NOLA for all of the young, big booty black chicks those cities are swarming with. He threw in BRK as something of a smoke screen: he doesn't really want to go to BRK, because they don't have the same quality of young, big booty black chicks that NOLA and DC have, but he doesn't want it to be too obvious that he only wants to go to DC and NOLA, because then everyone would know that he only wants to go there for the young, big booty black chicks. If BRK does draft him, don't be suprised if he angles a trade to NOLA or DC, his preferred destination, since his priority is young, big booty black chicks, of which those two cities- New Orleans and District of Columbia- are reputable and distinguished for.

>>149415532
The 76er's aren't winning shit, Nick Nurse doesn't play rookies and the 76er's are 1 bad playoffs away from trading Embiid, PG and firing Nick Nurse and Morey. That organization if trash and headed nowhere.

pacers had game 4, everyone joked about scott foster extending that series but it isn't much of a joke if they probably would've taken the whole thing if not for that game, if I were a pacie I would be eternally livid

>>149415532
>>149415500
And yet if Braden Fiske doesn’t get hurt in the 1st half of the Divisionals, my Rams would’ve taken the owl.

>>149415555
he said he doesnt want to be in a position like the celtics, where they're over the 2nd apron and people get injured, and then you have to give away players like boston is doing with Jrue and Zingis. I thought you niggas spoke english why are words so hard to comprehend for you?

>>149415426
The 76ers shouldn't even have a top 10 draft pick at all

>>149415546
People don't enter the NBA to win, they enter to earn $100+ million. It's more likely that Ace becomes a franchise player on the Nets, Pelicans or Wizards on a huge contract than with the 76er's.

>>149415575
who?
>>149415568
you sound mad brother you good? some philly nigga fuck your bitch?

>>149415594
This is true, but in Ace's case, I think he's trying to get the bag, and be in a city with young, big booty black chicks, of which NOLA and DC are widely reputed for.

It's time to remove the draft. Make rookies just free agents. Make it so if you are over the tax aprons the rookie contracts you can offer are smaller so teams can't have an expensive roster and also get top rookies. There, now the draft can't be rigged. Worried about big markets getting the best young players? The draft didn't stop the Lakers from getting Luka. And without the draft, a team can't trade all their picks away and ruin the team for a decade. But a young team can pull off things like picking up 3 top 10 rookies in a single year and put the gas on their rebuild without having to tank for 5+ years.

>>149415617
If you don’t know who Braden Fiske or Jared Verse are, then you are truly a Philly casual. Fiske sacked Hurts twice before the injury.

Ace Baily? Didn't his name used to be Seven or something?

>>149415634
This is how it should be, because draft rigging is very real and absolutely a thing (remember, they rigged the draft for Kyrie to Cleveland so eventually LeBron would come back to a star). Wemby to San Antonio was also rigged. It will never happen though, because then the NBA wouldn't have control of franchise's futures.

>>149415640
i remember verse, the guy they said was fast and still got cooked by barkley like three times in a game. fiske sounds vaguely familiar

any insiders here?

>>149415554
we gon git ace

>>149415651
rigging the draft is like the least effective way to rig anything. Nobody knows what any of these kids will be. Guys like Flagg could fall in love with instathots while Ace could chuck his way into professionalism

>>149415632
this the guy that took 9 shots in a game 7?

>>149415617
I just stated facts. Embiid is washed and hasn't hasn't ever made it out of the second round. Nick Nurse doesn't play rookies, Daryl Morey is a liar and PG is washed and injury prone. The 76er's are going to fizzle out in the playoffs next season and the owner will be forced to clean house

>>149415678
*BREEEP*

>>149415632
who was it again that was saying SGA is more efficient than what, Kobe or Harden or something? That what makes him so special is that hes a le hecking 50% FG guard???

Boyfriend proposed to me at the OKC Thunder parade, I said yes!

>>149415444
Chubby now has as many rings as SGA but non in any of his MVP seasons. This yall all time great?

>>149415686
Nothing is 100% but it is definitely a way the league can put a heavy finger on the scale.

>>149415733
how many mvp seasons?

>>149415632
Jokic was playing against the 8th seed Heat without Tyler Herro. Jokic then choked against this years Thunder despite the Thunder only having Hartenstein and Chet to guard him.

>>149415632
the scord didn't like this one

>>149415739
and in ref-balling and the league can make anyone a star. Just look at Kobe, Michael, SGA, etc.

>>149415695
Game 7 GmSc: 32.7 vs 16.7
That's a 2 burger

>>149415694
okay? not sure why you crying about embiid or whatever when i'm talking about ace sounding like a loser

>>149415761
>Save me mister foster!!!

>>149415749
Enough to make 2007 Dirk blush

>>149415758
A lot of the star making is also in the whole draft process. A #1 pick can be instantly elevated to exciting young star.

>>149415785
>jamal had a good playoffs 5 years ago!! he totally carries jokic!

>>149415400 (OP)
Why are BAWBS so upset this happened?

>>149415809
your goat's game 7 stats this year

>>149415654
They were both rookies I forgive you.

>>149415780
>shot less fts in game 7
>still doubled up

who my wizzies gettin

>>149415773
If you were a lottery pick Wing player would you want to be drafted to a team that already has a former All-Star wing player on the roster or would you rather go to an actual rebuilding team that's looking for it's next franchise player?

>>149415850
the former because i'm trying to be great for the future and also win now.

>>149415817
everybody knew it was booked to happen and bitched about it all year then it happened just like when roman reigns won the royal rumble in 2015

Ace blowing off the &^ers is a great sign.

>>149415848
Wow, he should try doing that in the playoffs more. Maybe in a game 7 perhaps?

>>149415847
enjoy your Jeremiah Fears bro

Draft picks try to position themselves all the time. The only difference with Ace this time is he's "being unprofessional" about it because he's bailing on stuff he's scheduled instead of just not scheduling at all

>>149415848
is jokic the all time game 7 playoff dropper?

>>149415848
Why are you posting regular season stats? Are you going to start bragging about in-season tournament performances next?

>>149415867
....and in Ace's case specifically, he's trying to go to a situation where he can get shots up, be the star of a team, obtain the future bag, and also a city where there are lots of young, big booty black chicks, of which NOLA and DC have developed a reputation for nationwide.

>>149415899
>>149415894

>>149415867
You would get more playing time, shots and development time on a rebuilding team then you would coming off the bench on a contender.

>>149415892
only thing he officially cancelled was the meeting with the 6ers. He never even scheduled a meeting/workout with anyone else.

>>149415568
>trading embiid

who, other than mat ishbia, is stupid enough to want that?

>>149415908
/nba/ like twitter makes it sound like embiid and george are so cooked they'll never dribble a basketball again and then say ace will have zero opportunities. which is it?
>>149415918
I disagree, see Kobe Bryant.

>>149415894
Game 1 and game 5 are carrying the fuck out of those numbers. He played like absolute dogshit in game 4 and didn't do shit in game 2, 3, 6, and 7. Send da highlights.

>>149415894
He put up decent stats but still got demolished by the youngest team in the league in 7 games. That's with playing Westbrook as a 6th man on a team friendly contract. Maybe if he was a better team leader then the head coach wouldn't have been fired a week before the playoffs lol

>>149415936
so okc lost 3 games to jamal murray?

>>149415932
>Snus flipping the exact Durant package to the 76ers for Embroken
Holy shit that would be funny. Please god make this happen.

>>149415935
they are cooked but the team is still going to force it through them because of sunk costs. Then there's Nurse hating young guys unless he's forced to play them. Philly is not a great situation for anybody looking to be a star because they're already all in on other guys, for better or worse.

This whole convo is pointless though because philly was never going to pick Ace to begin with, they're just doing their due diligence

>>149415970
case in point, this kid can't take the heat and he shouldn't be in the fucking kitchen.

do you think jokic even knows the draft is today wait the denver nuggets have no draft picks kek and also no all stars and no veterans and no bench how does this even happen

>>149415989
we told you niggas a long time ago

>>149415935
Any lottery pick looking to become the future franchise player would have to take the keys from Embiid, PG and Maxey while getting Nick Nurse to give them playing time. Most people would rather just go to an actual rebuilding team and avoid the hassle.

>>149415989
>how does this even happen
he carries a Pelicans tier team to contender status every year. they are actual dogshit

>>149415960
As much as he gets blamed for the nuggets losing seems like it, yeah.

>>149415970
Maxey and McCain had no problem overcoming adversity when shit hit the fan, but let's all praise Ace for being the bitch made--sorry, young and wise decision maker led by Sharife Cooper's dad.

>>149415989
It's like Mavs during prime Dirk roster fumbling. Remarkable really.

>>149415524
Yeah, we can revisit this another time. I have nothing against your takes, I may disagree and that’s fine. As long as you don’t actually think Reed Sheppard is CP 2.0….

It was just kind of the same thing as Dillingham in my opinion, and I think it was lazy to just assume these dudes would be safe bets because of their association with KU and High School
Hype. But I do like Reed more than Dillingham

>>149416031
Doc had Maxey glued to the bench his rookie year and he only got an opportunity because Simmons mentally collapsed then ghosted the team with them having no other pg options. McCain got run because the half the roster died then he himself did. They're also later picks and were expected to get in where they fit in. A top pick doesn't have to go through that and given a choice damn sure wouldn't pick it

>>149416025
Whose a better guard teammate for Jokic that the Nuggets could reasonably get?

Alright faggots fill me in here. On an average draft year, what is the relative value of a...

>No.1 pick?
>Top 4 pick?
>Lottery pick?
>Non-lottery 1st rounder?
>2nd rounder?

>>149416119
Doc is gone and McCain continued to get minutes when other players came back from injury.
>A top pick doesn't have to go through
Edwards was glued to the bench for the first half of his rookie year. I need even saw reed sheppard play last season, or dllingham
>and given a choice damn sure wouldn't pick it
but he doesn't have that choice. no matter how much he cries. i don't even fucking want ace on my team shit

>>149416183
i dont know shit about contracts and trades. All i know is that Murray has had 2 good playoffs in 9 years of his career. He is either injured,sick, or shits the bed, and i want him to fuck off

>>149416189
>faggots
Nope. I may think homosexuality is degenerate and a public evil, but I won't tolerate derogatory slurs meant solo to insult and hurt others. Sorry anon, I'm keeping my thoughts on your questions to myself.

ANONS BEST AVAILABLE (not a mock draft)

1.) Cooper Flagg
2.) VJ Edgecombe
3.) Dylan Harper
4.) Tre Johnson
5.) Kon Knueppal
6.) Ace Bailey
7.) Derik Queen
8.) Maluach
9.) Maxime Raynaud
10.) Jakucionas
11.) Cedric Coward
12.) Carter Bryant
13.) Ben Saraf
14.) Nique Clifford
15.) Collin Murray Boyles
16.) Rasheer Flemming
17.) Will Riley
18.) Drake Powell
19.) Jase Richardson
20.) Walter Clayton Jr.
21.) Jeremiah Fears
22.) Danny Wolf
23.) Sion James
24.) Asa Newell
25.) Egor Demin
26.) Mark Sears
27.) Noa Essengue
28.) Thomas Sorber
29.) Liam McNeely
30.) Yanic Konan Niederhauser

31.) Amari Williams
32.) Hunter Sallis
33.) Eric Dixon
34.) Ryan Kalkbrenner
35.) Bogoljub Markovic
36.) John Tonje
37.) Hansen Yang
38.) Adou Theiro
39.) Koby Brea
40.) Chaz Lanier
41.) Nolan Traore
42.) Joan Beringer
43.) Kam Jones
44.) Grant Nelson
45.) Tyrese Proctor
46.) Hugo Gonzalez
47.) Rocco Zikarsky
48.) Ryan Nembhard
49.) Chucky Hepburn
50.) Micah Peavy
51.) Johni Broome
52.) Alijah Martin
53.) Dink Pate
54.) Kobe Sanders
55.) Noah Penda
56.) Tamar Bates
57.) Lachlan Olbrich
58.) Jevon Small
59.) Alijah Martin
60.) R.J. Luis Jr.
61.) Jamir Watkins
62.) Vlad Goldin
63.) Caleb Grill
64.) Alex Toohey

>>149416201
how long did it take Clingan to finally get the bums in portland benched?

>>149416183
nobody. Murray is a bad contract, one of the worst in the league, and the nugs have no assets. The are fucked as a team in terms of making moves and the only hope is internal development and/or swings on free agents trying to rehab their image

>>149416219
I was referring to you all as a bundle of sticks. Not so cocky now, are you?

>unzips dick

>>149416183
in their current position none. they have to blow up the entire team for pennies to start a rebuilt. a legit retard wrote up these contracts for mid players.

>>149416206
Your only hope of an upgrade is waiting for Lamelo or Trae Young asking to be traded. Even then those two will be worth more than Murray and a pick

Amen GODson btw

>>149416238
for me, it's Dink Pate

>>149416183
murray hasn't even STARTED his contract extension, he's signed through 2029. the nuggets have absolutely fuck all via picks or players, fans are fantasizing about breaking up mpj's (undesirable, massive) contract and somehow getting back an equivalent player plus depth for nothing
it's done, jokic needs to play a season or two out then leave the nuggets

>>149416316
He shoots 27.5% from 3 as wing player. He's fucking trash

>>149416356
cry about it bitch

Who takes the East next season with it being pretty wide open now?

>>149416339
He’s a weird one man. Other than Edgecombe, might be the best athlete in the draft. Still only like 19. They tried to play him as a PG which he won’t be able to play in the NBA (he could hardly play PG in Mexico). The shot is bad. But damn the kids an athlete, and has the body of an NBA player

>>149416274
>I was referring to you all as a bundle of sticks. Not so cocky now, are you?
pardon my ignornace anon. No. 1 and top 4 picks will definitely depend on the draft strength, in most instances though if it's a franchise altering player you will want one in return and a bunch of picks. mid to late lottery picks usually take a 1st round swap and a 1st the nxt year. non lottery 1sts are kind of meh. 2nd rounders are not super valuable unless you're an apron team with no control over your own 1sts in which case a 2nd helps fill out your bench.

>>149416316
he looks like a gay westbrook and he sucks

>>149416375
He's a defensive wing that can't space the floor at all. Houston's going to give him a large contract extension and then dump him once the league realizes he's fucking trash.

>>149416416
>still crying
not even the second best player on the rockets and still better than anyone on the craptors

>>149416356
His form isn't bad, and his middie is okay. I think he projects to get a lot better from distance.

>>149416437
Scottie and Ochai clear

>>149416437
lol gradey dick is going to turn into white lebron james

>>149416381
Honestly if they're healthy I think the Magic will run the table. Only thing they really lack is a long defensive minded center. They have everything else.

>>149415639
>20 more years!

>>149416424
you can't trade away terrible players with big contracts or at least its extremely difficult.

>>149416461
unfortunately scottie is a cancerous locker room guy. we need to trade him for tons of assets before the secret gets out

>people calling Amen terrible
>people replying to them
bruh cut it out

>>149416559
>A defensive wing that can't space the floor is valuable in todays nba!
Yeah, okay retard.

Jakucionis to Celtdicks

screenshot this

>>149416238
Quick Comps :

>Tre Johnson
Tyler Herro
Bradley Beal

>Edgecombe
Anthony Edwards
Andrew Wiggins
Gerald Green

>Maluach
Capella
Rudy Gobert
Gorgei Dieng

>Jakucionas
Bogdonavic
Austin Reaves

>Carter Bryant
OG Anunoby

>Nique Clifford
Josh Hart
Norman Powell

>Maxime Raynaud
Mehmet Okur
Brooke Lopez

>Collin Murray Boyles
Anthony Mason

>Rasheer Fleming
Trevor Ariza
Jonathan Isaac

>Sion James
Lou Dort
Jrue Holiday

>Egor Demin
Dante Exum
Lonzo Ball

>Jeremiah Fears
Devin Harris
Monte Ellis
Eric Bledsoe

>>149416559
shooting guard that doesnt score points

It’s been f*cking quiet today on the trade front…

>>149416624
Hoping the floodgates open on trades tonight, otherwise it's going to be a boring ass draft

>>149416630
They fucked it up last year for Lebitch Nepotism baby Jr. when they added the 2nd day of the draft for the 2nd round. Just do it all in one night. I ain’t trynna watch the 2nd round on a different night..such a buzzkill

>>149416656
agreed, I won't be watching tomorrow that's for sure.

>>149416630
weird take since the draft is interesting as hell this year. Anything could happen from 3 onward

>>149416617
shooting guard is not scoring guard. some of them are better at pumping up the rest of the team's offensive rebounding stats.

>Lakers unlikely to trade for a Center. Will look at multiple names during free agency including Clint Capela, Al Horford, and Brook Lopez. >@NBATradeReport

LA is allergic to getting good centers, they just love washed up trash for pennies on the dollar

>>149416675
I think the only intriguing thing is where Bailey lands, no?

the fact that Gilbert Arenas dropped 60 on Kobe DOES give him the right to call him an overrated defender, why do BAWBs on YT have a problem with that?

>IF I DON'T PLAY FOR TEAM X, Y OR Z, MY CAREER IS GOING TO BE SHIT AND YOU'LL WASTE YOUR PICK
oh boy what a great prospect

The hold LeBalco has on younger zoomers is just insane...
https://youtube.com/shorts/n2cXo1fr6bE

>>149416693
Ace isn't good enough for him to be the only intrigue. VJ for example is a westbrook with "better attitude" kind of player that a bunch of teams love. Charlotte really wants him but are 11 spot short

>>149416695
Kobe was an All-Star starter in the 2013-2014 season despite only playing 6 games. Most of his awards were because he was the franchise player for the Lakers. Kobe was overrated

>>149416695
Gil was a PG. yeah, some of those matchups were against Kobe, but they were also against Smush Parker & (I think) rookie Jordan Farmar. Plus, it was the regular season, the wizards were actually pretty good, and Gil was having a career game.

>2025
>people still arguing about whether Kobe was good or not

He was a dogshit a meme brick chucker negro rapist.

>>149415400 (OP)
when is the draft

>>149416772
2AM pasta time

>>149416784
thanks

Found the Nuggets a trade that gets rid of that fat fuck Murray & gives the Nuggets a pick tonight

>>149416767
>t. cuck

>>149416742
they have the audacity to say that the media is on a witch hunt against him just because like 3 nba player is not rating him as anything short of basketball jesus, is nuts

>>149416767
I'm am suddenly getting this shit on my YT feed

>>149416732
I don’t see the Westbrook comp, just because Westbrook was a PG by nature despite that athletic profile. VJ closer to like a 3 & D version of Dwayne Wade, if anything. Not that I think he’s gonna be THAT good

Even Thinking Basketball thinks Kobe is overrated...Kobe didnt even make it to top 10 offensive peaks...Lightskin Bum that ruined the league Wardell Stephen Curry was even above him...we gotta riot, what is this nonsense...

>>149416817
Us Kobe truthers can lead you to the water, but we can’t force you to drink

>>149416817
>I'm am suddenly getting this shit on my YT feed

>2025 doesn't know every single devices of your tracks your shit so that they suggestion/ad algorithm would show up shit that you've talked about or searched for

>okc parade was huge
you guys lied to me

>>149416800
i would take this instantly and never look back

>>149416690
kek

>>149416837
Name the basketball related accomplishments of “Thinking Basketball”. Surely he had to have played some high level basketball, correct? Or else he’d just be another soulless YouTuber who crunches numbers

Sixers bros.. are we cooked?

>>149416837
Of course he does, he's a video-essayist bawb that doesn't know anything about basketball. It speaks higher of Kobe that he doesn't have him rated highly, than if he did.

>>149416874
Well yeah, because you get to have Dario, Bogdon & Jokic on the same squad

>>149416800
Harden is better than Murray and they wouldn't give up a pick for him. Either way this makes both teams worse. The Nugget's would trade their bench depth and playoff choker for another choker and the Clippers would be stuck with Murray's bad contract.

>>149416695
kobe got punked on by 40% of the league. hes lucky he had his daddy shaq backing him up

>>149416901
Add another Balkanite to the team and local Albanians will start dissapearing.

>>149416800
>>149416874
Why would the Nuggets do this? Harden has like one good year of starter basketball left and chokes in the playoffs whereas Murray is a playoff riser who's only complaint the last few years has been injuries. And sure they get a 1st round pick, but pick #30? Nuggets would never do this.

>>149416742
Kobe is overrated, but in addition to being a Laker he also had an exciting playstyle, was handsome, and a celebrity personality

>>149416901
dario is leaving for europe i think. he's unplayable anyway. But Bogdan and Harden would be fucking great

>>149416800
....why would the clippers accept this?

>>149416823
Westbrook wasn't a pg by nature and it's been a knock against him his whole career. He stockpiles assists but he's never really been a floor general and has questionable decision making still even all these years into a HoF career. VJ is more like Westbrook coming out of college. A complete dog on the court with super athleticism and willing to do whatever. Maybe not as good with the ball. Wade was a lot craftier and polished than either

>>149416911
Harden needs the ball in his hands at all times and so does Jokic, they would not pair well together at all.

>>149416928
Because they get rid of Jamals contract and get an equal player in return, even if its for 1 year. Also they need 3 point shooters really badly and both Harden and Bogdan are great at that

>>149416931
he was pretty much a Russell Westbrook with rings and positive aura where people forgive him and memory his terrible efficiency and brickfests, hell they even forgiven his sexual assault charges

>>149416885
What are you talking about retard. Most of the people who created all the advanced statistical analysis dont or didnt play basketball, and playing basketball doesnt give you more particular knowledge of effectiveness. This is like saying "Because Athletes use their bodies more, they actually understand the body better than scientists who just sit on their ass all day. Btw, can you blatantly tell how much of a redneck retard I am, by my open display of being threatened by intelligence which cant as easily be accesed as the happenstance of being gifted a body and the immediate, internal experience of using that body with no need for critical thought to interpret it, because thats how the human brain works?"

Anyway, Ive got criticism of Thinking Basketball as Ive said in the past. He glorifies Lebron waaaay too much, and when it comes to Lebron his stats are always faaaar weaker. He literally had to say "Lebron went from a 34% permiter shooter to a whopping 3% increase!" to hype up Lebron instead being a..........37% perimeter shooter...wow." He also conveniently ignores JUST how many turnovers lebron has. I actually agree with him that better passers on average have more turnovers, but Lebron is in a LEAGUE of his own in terms of turnovers.

>>149416911
>Murray is a playoff choker now
lmao this fucking general man.

>>149416911
>>149416928
>>149416939
It’s actually less about Harden, and more to do with the fact that Harden’s deal is expiring after this next season (so the money comes off the books). Clippers really benefited from Harden in the regular season, whereas in the post season he shat the bed in game 7. Murray is a younger option for the Clippers, and one that may be more reliable on the clutch as a compliment to Kawhi and Zubac.

Are we ready for Nico masterclass tonight?

>>149416963
Jamal just averaged a career high in PPG, is entering his prime and plays great next to Jokic. Murray is a better 3 point shooter than Harden as well % wise. MPJ is the contract they need to move, not Murray.

>>149416991
It makes perfect sense for the Clippers but zero sense for the Nuggets. Players don't really reach FA these days and next years FA class isn't strong.

>>149417008
in a perfect world, they would get rid of them both. Although i think they could actually get something decent in return for Jamal. MPJ might get them a bit of depth and a pick at best.

>>149416928
>Murray is a playoff riser
he isn't, he is just an extremely erratic player who has occasional excellent games and when one of those games falls in the playoffs it becomes extremely memorable. he comes out of nowhere to shoot 60% and put up 35 in February once in a while too and with the same frequency as he does it in the yoffs

>>149417032
He's been a major playoff riser for most of his career and is very clutch. Harden is the opposite: great regular season player who's shit doesn't work in the 'offs once teams actually play defense.

Jamal raped mah lakies....

>>149417017
was this 2010 finals? because if so theres very obvious context for this

>>149417028
>next years FA class is not that strong

Nuggets could probably poach Fox from San Antonio. Austin Reaves from LA (or maybe even Luka if that ends a disaster. How bout if OKC needs to get off guys at some point? The deal would give flexibility to the Nuggets front office.

>>149417055
he's had 2 good playoffs and is constantly injured. Jokic and AG cant take over in the clutch if need be.

Murray's numbers are deceptive because he starts off every season being a fat fuck or hurt, but usually plays himself into shape which is genuinely around allstar level. That+his injury history should be held against him and should have led to cheaper deals but the nugs are ran by morons. He's a fine enough player otherwise who is also clutch and can catch fire easily

>>149417106
can*

>>149417093
Fox is an overrated ball-hog who similarly to Harden needs the ball in his hands at all times or he can't really play. He forced Haliburton out of SAC because he didn't like the idea of playing with another ball dominant player. He also can't shoot from 3 very well. Reaves would be nice in DEN but I think he's either getting moved via trade this year or staying their longterm. An MPJ for Reaves swap is not bad imo. But not for Murray.

Besides that all the other FA's are either super old or RFA. It's a really bad FA class. Financial flexibility to the FO doesn't matter if you can't get any good FA's. Murray should be a trade candidate if it's a good deal but for Harden/Bog is plain stupidity and at BEST is a neutral trade for them.

>>149417106
3 good playoffs and is a consistent playoff riser. He always at LEAST matches his regularl season production in the playoffs. He's been injured last year and a half when he never was before. I wouldn't panic trade him just yet, I would try to trade MPJ and get some more depth from that trade. If next year they flop in the playoffs then it's time to look into moving Murray.

>>149416991
the whole league knows murray is a jokic merchant. every team just attacks murray cause he cant handle the ball and create separation for himself.

>>149415527
Last I saw he was averaging like 2 points a game as a junior

Do how are we feeling about Flagg
Overhyped or is he actually really good at absolutely everything?

>>149417190
thats probably the most rational way to do it, but im just sick of watching this same team fumble and choke every god damn year.

https://x.com/NBCSWarriors/status/1937938467650212338?t=N78K15aA4t3IEutfmB8z2A&s=19
No...KumGod will leave and the warriors franchise will be finished...

>>149415527
early development is a mfer. People try to deny it but nurture matters a great amount and you can't be sure how minor stuff that happens as infants/toddlers affects them down the line. It's like Amen/Ausar where Amen is better strictly because he's way more aggressive and has been his whole life

>>149417160
You’re still not quite getting it. Free Agency or not, We just saw Boston have to sacrifice their returns in order to shred salary. That’s the new normal, so what the Nuggets can do is put themselves in position to grab valuable guys (from a team like OKC or Houston) without giving up much in assets. I’m talking guys like Tari Eason, Cason Wallace..dudes that may not be able to be extended when they’re due. It’s the kind of youthful roster that Jokic will need as he ages.

DisgrACE Bailey

>>149417271
And I think you're still not quite getting what I'm saying: I agree the Nuggets need to retool their roster and shed some bloated contracts, and everyone should be on the table, but Murray's contract is not the problem, it's MPJ's and frankly I'd look to move Gordon if I can as well assuming the price is right and especially while his stock is highest. Yes Gordon had some big shots last playoff but a player like Bruce Brown basically filled Gordon's role during their championship run and players like him are who they need to get. It's why I agree guys like Eason and Wallace would be good player in Denver and I'm sure Denvers FO has a plan to go get some guys like that, but they're being patient and not panicking right now which is the right move.

>>149417271
Boston is shedding salary because their 1st team all-NBA player is missing the entirity of next season and it's straight stupidity to pay half a billion dollars for what will be a play-in team at best. You can't compare their situation to Denver, and I'm confused that you would even compare them as if they're in the same situation.

>>149417190
this year he was better in the regular season
the year before that he was better in the regular season
the year before that he was great in the playoffs and they won
the year before that he was injured
the year before that he was injured
whoopdie fuckin doo

I can save yall a lot of time. The nugs are fucked. Braun is about to make actual starter money, Murray's extension kicks in, and MPJ is still being paid way too much

>>149416999
>WITH THE FIRST OVERALL PICK IN THE 2025 NBA DRAFT THE DALLAS MAVERICKS SELECT COO- WAIT WHAT THE FUCK THIS READS HANSEN YANG? HA-HANSEN YANG. THE MAVERICKS SELECT HANSEN YOUNG FROM CHINA.

>>149417397
packaging Braun and MPJ in a trade is what they need to do

Anyone else feel like Dylan Harper is going to end up being a better player than Cooper Flagg? He can be the offensive centerpiece for a team and perrenial MVP candidate, meanwhile Cooper Flagg will at best be a slightly better Jayson Tatum.

Sixers are already the loser of the draft before it even began haha

>>149417443
What happened?

Any draft streams you guys plan to watch?
The ringer fucking SUCKED last year
So much better several years ago

>>149417428
Bailey will be better than both of them, as long as he ends up in NOLA or DC, where all of the young, big booty black chicks are

>>149417428
Slightly better Tatum?
He'll fucking yeah. Sign me up as a Mava fan

>>149417427
they will not get anything close to equivalent value. Braun's value is going to plummet once he's off his rookie deal and mpj has no value to begin with on his current deal. They matter more to the nugs than anything they could get back for them

>>149417428
He will make the hall of fame just lobbing to wemby all day

>>149417428
google family guy mystery box
>>149417474
dc not even that black these days

>>149417471
It's on Network television, just watch it on tv.

rolling a joint rn and listening to techno

>>149417498
Ew

>>149417474
look at Ace Bailey. NBA stars don't look like him

>>149417496
>dc not even that black these days
Not true, it's full of young, big booty black chicks

>>149417485
That's the best case scenario, he'll probably end up somewhere in the middle.

>>149417513
What's wrong with watching it on tv? It looks better and isn't delayed by 2 minutes like a stream.

>>149417456
Ace Bailey pulling an Eli Manning to the Chargers moment and no one wants to trade with them so they have to pick a reach with 3

>>149417427
Who wants that? They might have to give up a 1st round pick and Braun just for a team to take Porter

>>149417539
Is the VJ Edgecombe kid really that much worse?

>>149415527
They're not identical

>>149417428
No, I don’t think he even ends up better than Edgecombe, Knueppal or Tre Johnson.

>>149417558
For 3 hell yeah, he's at best a pick 8-9 pick

>>149417558
that's the funny thing, many places have VJ ahead of him but with philly there are all kinds of fit issues. Ace in general is really not a Morey type of player and they were never going to pick him. The problem is more like they can't leverage their position to get more assets due to the shit Ace is doing

Mavs owners sold
Lakers owners sold
Celtics owners sold
Timberwolves owners sold
Raptors owners sold

Why are large market team owners selling their teams in this parity era? Are the ratings even lower than they're reporting?

>>149417518
>look at Ace Bailey. NBA stars don't look like him

That’s because he is by legal definition, mentally retarded

I only know like 5 players in the draft.....

>>149417518
Because Ace Bailey is this decades Ben Simmons in the making. Dudes gonna be playing more vidya than making plays whoever is retarded enough to draft him.

>>149417632
sixers getting sold next, let's go bros

>>149417632
Shut the frick up
The Nba is booming
You bitch ass n word

>>149417642
I studied like 70 dudes. What do you want to know

what is it about this man that annoys the african american community SO much

>>149417659
Harris is not gonna sell the team that continues to make him money for his bigger and better projects such as the Commanders and his eventual MLB team (Pirates)

okay the lil thunder niglet sobbing over a hartenstein jersey actually got me to tear up

>>149417672
Who's the player that you think too many people are either overthinking or sleeping on that can be a quality player?

Who is a overhyped player that you think a team is going to regret drafting?

>>149417691
can you type that post again?

>>149417697
link

>>149417672
nta but thoughts on Bailey and Edgecom?
If you had to pick one 'dark horse' all-star from this draft, who would it be?

>>149417428
I think there’s this preconceived notion that these large combo guard guys always work out (Cunningham, LaMelo, Luka). I’m a little more dubious this time around. A few things I don’t love about his tape

>>149417632
they can't compete with nu-era owners who treat teams like fancy toys instead of money makers and are bowing out. Boston is a bit different though because the guy only sold because he's ancient and the kids didn't want it. The twolves owner even tried to backtrack on the sale but lost in court so he played himself

>>149417520
he's not going out southeast on mlk with shitheads, he's barely gonna be on like u st
nba players with money are in md, nova suburbs, gentrified parts of the city

my big board for the draft:
1. flagg
2. knueppel
3. jakucionis
4. demin
5. mcneeley
6. raynaud
7. kalkbrenner
8. max shulga
9. zikarsky
10. olbrich
thoughts?

>>149417428
I think he's pretty close to can't miss. You can point out some of the holes in his game or his not that great athleticism but the guy is a super professional about everything and already has advanced P&R navigation. One of the telling things is that all the spurs trade talks fucking died when they got a closer look at him

>>149417799
>One of the telling things is that all the spurs trade talks fucking died when they got a closer look at him
Thank fucking God that this happened. I've been telling people ever since the lottery that keeping Harper is the best move and that they don't need to trade for Giannis.

>>149417787
>Jakucionis at 3

I wish

>>149417755
Bailey's cut from a bit of a different mold. He'll be on H street corridor and trinidad area, hollering at and taking his pick of the young, big booty black chick litter. Lest we forget Robinson was out partying in that area when he was shot. Or perhaps he'll head to shaw neighborhood and pick up some Howard hoes. Point being: these are just a few of the many options available in DC for an NBA player in search for young, big booty black chicks.

EMPTY THE CLIP DUNLEAVY WE NEED GIANNIS IN THE BAY AREA MAN, CURRY NEED ANOTHER RANG, TRADE YOUR REAL ESTATE ASSETS IF YOU NEED TO

>>149417687
how is it that this man doesn't command his own legion?

>>149417722
He got what he always wanted, and that's a new stadium for his team. That team being the Commanders. Somewhere out there Dan Synder is having a stroke. Whats more funny is he's also a better owner than Comcast Spector over in the hoc land too haha.

>>149417910
I love black women. I want to go on a passport bro trip around the carribean and east africa.

>>149417910
Don't remind me

>>149417825
not from here

>>149415632
Jokic faced the even younger pups, buns and fakers before facing against the weap
SGA faced the Grizzlies, Jokic himself, mature pups that owned jokic and then the pacers who had one of the greatest run ever
SGA clears

>>149417948
nta but I grew up in Alexandria, went to Georgetown and worked in DC for 8 years. H street is pretty black and obviously so is Howard. Downtown has plenty of has black clubs that are popular even in the more gentrified areas. Besides he's obviously just memeing with the big boot black chick joke, lighten up. I'd almost argue you don't sound like you're from DMV area, U street is basic af and that's all you namedropped.

im soooooooooooo gay

>>149418087
Jarek....

>>149417729
https://x.com/i/status/1937928276707832205

>>149417716
I think there’s are a lot of interesting guys, but a lot of them are like Super Seniors still left from Covid.
>Sion James
played on Duke last year. A perfect connective piece. He played PG at Tulane before transferring to Duke. He was easily their most overlooked player because of how much attention the freshman got, but Sion is built like a tank. Think a Lou Dort / Jrue Holiday build, and he plays like that defensively. Good passer, cutter, high IQ. Fucking love that kid.
>Rasheer Fleming
A fucked up physical specimen. 6’9 with like a 7’6 wingspan. Shot 38% from 3, and has moments where his length just wrecks games on the defensive end.

>>149417739
>Dark Horse All-Star
Probably Cedric Coward / Nique Clifford. Both are wings, versatile scorers and with Coward, he has a 7’2 wingspan and shoots like 40% from 3. Coward averaged like 9 rebounds a game last year at like 6’6, in like a Josh Hart kind of way.

>overthinking
Maxime Raynaud. Senior from Stanford. Averaged 21 / 11 last year. Legit 7’0. Hit the 2nd most 3’s ever for a 7 footer in a D1 season (67 made 3’s in 36 games). He moves like an athlete (he’s a former swimmer), runs the floor GREAT. Knows how to use his shooting ability to bait shooters. I have no clue why he’s being projected outside the lottery. He’s top 10 for me.

>overhyped
I’m not falling for the French guys this year. I was open to it, especially since Essengue is a projected lottery pick, but I just can’t see it. Actually, the international prospects don’t really excite me much this year outside of Ben Saraf, and some of the guys in the collegiate system (Maluach, Jakicionas, Raynaud).
>Jeremiah Fears
I would be mad if my team took him. I dislike his tape and turnovers, but he’s probably the most exciting and dynamic playmaking PG at the rim besides Harper, so I guess I get it. Plus he’s hella young

how about this trade:
okc receives nikola jokic
denver receives all of okc's billion draft picks
jokic signs back with denver when his FA is up

>>149417787
Zikarsky has some fun tape. Of the Lakers take him at 55, I wouldn’t be mad.

>>149418105
Can you guarantee that a player signs an extension before trading him?

>>149418104
whats with these names?

*enters thread*

all eyes on me

>>149418194
To think Brett Brown was more likely to win the Shitxers a cup than Doc.

>>149418207
I don’t think it’s hyperbolic to say that this is the most consequential draft in Nets history.

>>149418105
This is too smart for the retarded cuck owner. He's going to reject all trades and then Jokic will walk after getting bounced before the finals again leaving them to rebuild for 10 years.

>>149418173
Trading Jokic is the best possible outcome anyway. There's also no guarantee that a player will re-sign with you so there really is no difference in the end aside from getting tons of assets vs no assets.

>>149415892
Lots of guys try to dodge a certain team. Sarr did it last year with Atlanta. But dodging one team is different from dodging most of the teams that could pick you.

>>149418182
Unironically makes it so much easier to scout when there aren’t 20 Jalen / Jaylens per draft

>>149415444
>Jokic is going to unironically play his entire prime with Jamal "I had a good year once" Murray as his #2.

What a waste

NFL mentioned all the shitty NBA players on guaranteed deals as to why they want to screw over their own players lmao

>>149417755
Aren't there a huge number of middle class and wealthy black people in the suburbs in Maryland? Granted, I don't know the size of their posteriors.

>>149415494
Jokic will probably be in the history books for most assets traded for a player. Paul George can rest.

>>149418295
gauranteed contracts shouldn't exist in any sport. You have to play to get paid. If you aren't worth your contract, you should get released and have to earn another one. I actually think there should only be such a thing as 1 year contracts and you have to re-earn it every year, but the team you played for has first rights/refusal. It would make the game more pure. That way you wouldn't have Bradley Beal/Westbrook/Lillard/Simmons situations where they are making insane money when they really don't deserve even a fraction of it.

>>149418320
cool. Good luck negotiating that bro

>>149415714
you should get matching cock rings

>>149418295
Guaranteed contracts are a primary reason why the NBA is a terrible sport. One bum cashing dem checks can destroy an entire franchise for years, just look at Phoenix, or New Orleans.

The NFL already has its Bradley Beal in Deshaun Watson, no one looks at that situation and thinks "yeah, we need more of this"

post Shai's aura

>>149418320
How do those boots taste, corporate cosplaying cocksucker? Newsflash: The owners are worse than the players when it comes to wanting to keep the game "pure" and care about making more money above anything else. Why the fuck do you want an environment where players are infinitely more prone to being fucked over? Do you imagine yourself as one of the team owners or something? That will never be you.

If you think being a "free throw merchant" is a bad thing, you don't really have any basketball iq

>>149418346
Don't forget the Sixers.

Edgecombe is gonna be the best player in this draft. Not Cooper, Not Harper, Not Bailey

>>149418389
Shitxer cope has begun

>>149418340
Alternative reality:
Mussolini Hitler and Tojo discussing how theyre splitting up earth after winning ww2, pictured.

>>149415714
Congrats Inceltic. Why were you in Oklahoma tho?

>Waitress I had a thing for rejected my proposal to go on a date. I can never show my face at the cafe again.
Just drop the fucking nukes

>>149418433
I would not only keep going there, I would follow her around and try to sabotage every relationship she has

>>149418433
that sucks. good for you for having the balls to ask.

coper flag looks like he doesnt know how to dribble?

>>149418433
respectfully anon, her job, what she is being paid for, in a customer service role, is to be nice to you. Did she ever give you any indications she wanted something more? Like sitting down with you in the booth, asking personal questions beyond the scope of her role, like what you do, what you're doing later, what your day or week entails? In service roles the woman will often make it obvious she's into you and wants something more. Did she ever give you such an indication?

>>149418469
buzelis is gonna have a better career than him

>>149418366
How exactly would this fuck over the players? How would it not be fair? The NFL still has to meet the minimum salary cap every season, it wouldn't change anything regarding bookkeeping. Players would still receive injury gaurantees.

>>149418478
hes a carry and travel machine, it all depends on if refs give him superstar treatment

>>149418291
At this point Joker is eating for two. His production has to be doubled cause Murray is a pretender. Dude can't keep getting away with this while joker drains his energy meter in the playoffs

>>149418318
Maryland is known the whole world over for the posteriors of their black woman, or as I like to call them, 'big booties'. Upper class, middle class, lower class, it matters not: if they're a young black woman in the DMV area, it is likely that they have a big booty.

>>149418490
>it all depends on if refs give him superstar treatment

It's NBA, so yes. No calls travel superstar or not

>>149418449
Thank you
>>149418477
Well she was the one initiating more talk than the professional stuff. And she said i have a nice smile. So i threw a hail mary choked like demar derozan when it matters. Guess she was just being nice.

>>149418433
I thought you pastaniggers were supposed to be Rico Suave and shit?

>>149418366
The difference between an owner and player is that the owners, greedy, selfish and megalomaniacal pricks that they may be, at least can be counted on to do the absolute bare minimum required of them. There's no owner equivalent of Ben Simmons where the guy just doesn't do what he's supposed to do. The owners aren't bouncing checks, forgetting to pay the stadium lighting bill or supply the concession stands or any shit like that. Their job is to pay people and last I checked, the players are getting paid, the GMs are getting paid, everyone down to the janitors is getting paid, and they're getting paid what they agreed to.

The owners are holding up their end of the bargain. Are the players? Ballmer pays Kawhi 100% of the time. What % of the games does Kawhi play? Ishiba pays Beal 100% of his agreed salary with no excuses or exceptions. Does Beal play 100% of the games? Does he at least give 100% effort when he *does* play?

The players and owners are all rich. I don't sympathize with either group. But only one side consistently fails to do what they're supposed to do and it's not the owners

>>149418504
>Well she was the one initiating more talk than the professional stuff. And she said i have a nice smile. So i threw a hail mary choked like demar derozan when it matters. Guess she was just being nice.
hmm well, how many times had you spoken to her and met her? If it was only the 2nd or 3rd time we'd interacted, I would have maybe waited a bit more and felt it out from there. Some woman are just nice and like to give compliments. It maybe came off as desperate if you asked her out after only meeting her a 2nd or 3rd time. I would need more info.

>>149418433
How did she reject you? I once asked a girl I liked to a date and she replied with "ewwwwww yeah that's never going to happen, you're not good enough for me".

>>149418516
I believe it's the owner's job to hire a GM before the NBA offseason starts.

>>149418485
Guaranteed contracts exist to protect them from career ending injuries and unstable team management. Requiring everyone to earn a new deal every year creates insecurity, not purity.
>Beal, Westbrook etc.
the players aren't the problem, bad contracts come from bad front office decisions. Don’t blame players for taking what’s offered, blame the GMs who offer it. Injury guarantees aren’t a safety net either. They rarely cover full salaries, and they encourage players to risk long term health just to stay employed. Why should the athletes generating billions have less protection than an office worker?

just jorked it for like an hour in the shower shiiiiiiiiet

>>149418504
she was bored at work you was just someone to kill time with

Keep going and show that smelly twat your no hoe that locks himself away

>>149418544
Also believe it's their job to not fire their GM and coach 3 days before the playoffs start

>>149418544
It's not, actually. The owner can schedule the Front Office however he wants to. He could have literally zero FO if he wanted to.

>>149418386
>guy is already toast
>might unironically never play again
>absolute best case scenario is he's a fatter, less reliable Kawhi but without any of the postseason success before he became a flake
>multi-year extension hasn't even kicked in yet

>>149418516
isn't the mavs arena in consant repair cause its a rundown shithole

>>149418570
If your point is that owners can do whatever they want cause they're the boss so there's nothing required of them then good talking to you

>>149418558
a serbia is stupid enough to jerk his shit in the shower

>>149418558
Kek based. When I don't got a day I work I like laying in my bed, edging it all day throughout the day and then releasing at night. Shit is like a milk hose. Usually I end up with nut on my face. If I'm making an O face I get seed on my tongue a lot of the time.

>>149418320
the Embiid contract doesn't get enough credit, that's actually drawn up like an NFL contract that paid him a shit ton in the good years and very little in the bad ones.

>>149418544
keep talking ashit i want to see your face when he pulls this off

>>149418595
>>149418558
masturbating is so degenerate and disgusting, it makes me unironically sad that young men not only don't see any issue with it, but glorify the behaviour.

>>149418433
no shame in shooting your shot, hope you got a backup cafe tho

who is funnier, Jeff Teague or Gilbert Arenas?

>>149418527
Like 7 times i guess. I figured i could go for it.
>>149418538
She didnt mention a boyfriend she just said she respectfully wasnt interested and apologized. Im sorry about your experience. I was at a club with a friend once and he asked a girl for her number and that bitch laughed and said shed rather die. I didnt have the heart to look him at the face but i could tell his voice was shaking when he called her a fatherless rude cunt

>>149418614
what am i supposed to do, just sit on the couch with my dick hard all night?

>>149418614
>t. cutfag goy

>>149418614
Why do I care for what you find disgusting and degenerate? I love sex. I love sex with men. If that makes you mad because of desert Harry Potter written 2000 years ago then fuck off.

>>149418619
>Like 7 times i guess. I figured i could go for it.
well if the only compliment you received in 7 interactions was you had a nice smile, I think you overestimated how interested she was in you. It should have been clear to you she was just being polite and trying to brighten your day. You fucked up and came off as desperate and that's why she shot you down. That isn't hot to a woman.

>>149418614
would you rather young men rape everybody?

>>149418433
>I can never show my face at the cafe again.
That's not how the game works, not only do you have to go back and show face but you have to have an absolute bombshell hottie wrapped around your arm when you come in.

>>149418516
Owners can be counted on to do the “bare minimum” because that bare minimum is writing checks. That’s it. They're not putting their bodies on the line, training year round, playing through pain, or being subject to constant media scrutiny. Owners make billions regardless.
>there's no owner equivalent of Ben Simmons
What about owners who tank seasons, cut spending, dodge luxury tax despite promising to compete, or meddle in basketball ops and sabotage their own teams? They absolutely do exist and unlike players, they never get traded or cut for underperformance. You say you don’t sympathize with either group, but your entire post gives ownership a pass and puts all accountability on players the ones whose performance is constantly impacted by coaching, stability, system fit, and roster construction, all of which are controlled by ownership and management.

>"there's no owner equivalent of Ben Simmons"
double posting because i hate this fucking guy

WHAT EVEN HAPPENS IF YOU GO OVER THE SECOND APRON. DOES ADAM SILVER PERSONALLY COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND ANALLY RAPE YOU WHILE SEVEN BURLY BLACK MEN HOLD YOU DOWN? YOU'RE BILLIONAIRES JUST PAY THE FINES THE FUCK.

Why is Shams so soulless?

draft little Nembhard in the first round, you cowards

>>149418616
Thanks
>>149418633
What can i say i am a gambler

>>149418614
Masturbating while also pleasuring your anus 3-4 times a week reduces your risk of prostate cancer by 60%.

Also, go Celtics. Hope we draft Danny Woof

>>149418687
>What can i say i am a gambler
No, you're stupid.

>>149418614
>larping as a tradcuck on /sp/
>>>/pol/
Fuck off, nigger.

>>149418682
Wojbomb was the nba news equivalent of a trvthnvke.
Shams is just reporting.

>>149418676
you can't really make moves, freezes your draft picks then moves them to the end of the round in repeated years 2nd apron years and there's all the extra money penalties on top of it. It screws you from both a bball and money perspective and you might as well just consider it to be a hard cap

>>149418637
>>149418622
This I find even more sad, that you think there is no alternative but masturbating or raping. What I expect you to do is exert the most basic level of self-control and not masturbate. It's also been shown that rapists tend to be serial masturbators/degenerates. Maybe one day you'll understand the power that comes with having control over your vices and lust.

>>149418614
You are underage

>>149418710
You really associate the advocation for self-control with a twitter philosophy? As if they aren't mutually exclusive? You believe anyone saying 'masturbation is wrong and degenerate' must be a part of some modern, socio-political movement? If you do believe that, you sound brainwashed.

>>149418725
lmao this guy's been raped

I'm masturbating tonight, bros :)

>>149418749
Many such cases.

>>149418749
I personal slanderous attack on someone just because they are critical of your lifestyle is not an argument. I'll accept your concession.

>>149418753
And you're free to do that, but I believe you will be worse off because of it.

>>149418760
>>149418773
GOTTEM

Why are players such selfish fucks and take all the money they can get? No wonder teams don't have any money to build around them. Then people blame muh CBA instead of blaming these ungrateful pricks that would sell their grandmas for a supermax contract.

>>149418773
>>149418760
bootyblasted AGAIN

>>149418778
>>149418784
You're just proving my point, really. It doesn't change the reality of the situation no matter how hard you try and run from it. That said, I have hope one day you'll mature and grow up to see that masturbation is a pathetic, degenerate habit. I've said my peace on the matter, and I can hold my head high knowing I didn't have to resort to slanderous tactics to do so. Although I will say, the fact many of you became so hateful and emotional over the topic does betray that, somewhere in your heart, you know it's wrong that you do it, and you know it's degenerate. I can't imagine what else would cause such an aggitated response to me simply expressing that it makes me sad that young men do not seem to see any issue with masturbation. Godspeed.

im not reading all that

Anyone else notice lebron always talks about "The basketball gods" honestly think it might explain why he never if rarely has been injured his whole career. Sometimes curry and KD mention them too but no other superstar talks about them as much as lebron.

>>149418682
indians can create, only copy
i also don't get the appeal of these guys. I don't work in the NBA, why do I care if I learn about the Desmond Bane trade at 11:00 AM or 5:00 PM

blah blah blah
disgrACE BAILEY

https://streamable.com/iknbsr

wtf is this video lmao
no one fucking knew them lmao

>still no trades
I feel like something big is gonna break right before the draft bros

any recommendations for live draft watchalongs on youtube?

>John Collins picked up his PO
>$26 million
I guess that much mean there wasn't a FA market for anywhere near that. He put up close to 20-10 last season, albeit on a tanking team. I guess he did miss most of last season though.

>>149418846
KWAB

>>149418846
the celtics marketing team is so bad
this is somehow worse than forcing the anal ally as a nickname for gaytum

>>149418907
He had an underrated season. >Advanced stats liked him. His 3 point shot came back after the finger explosion. Still, his value is 0. If he didn't pick that option up, he'd be asking for a vet min somewhere.

LET ME SEE YOUR WAR FACE
AHHHHHHHH

>promising young guys
>solid vets
>100+ mil in the summer of 26
feels good to finally have something resembling competence

>>149417672
Who do you think the Spurs should take at #14?

My uncle molested me. Please don't make rape jokes.

>>149418976
Who do you want tonight Zard fan?

>>149418976
>bullets hopium
lmao

>>149418998
Maluach or Johnson

>>149418998
the Duke Center

>>149418976
>100+ mil in the summer of 26
They're getting jokic and giannis next year

>>149418998
Zohran for president

>>149419011
>>149419015
Saar must be even worse than people think

>>149419033
VJ Edgecombe

>>149418960
That's crazy to me, is it because he's a tweener who stat pads on bad teams? Reminds me a little of Christian Wood.

>>149419038
He's very talented but he doesn't play nor think like a big. He's like a giant SF. It'll be fine if he shoots better since he can really move on the perimeter. Him+a legit defensive anchor is a scary defense potentially

>>149419033
some shit player with a hyphenated last name

>>149418976
Only downside is FA class looks super weak next summer. DC is a cool city though, I'm suprised they have trouble recruiting, and as other anons have pointed out, the DMV area is full of young, big booty black chicks that NBA ballers covet.

>>149419064
I went to a couple Wizards game last year and I remember him swatting a few shots and he averaged 1.5 blocks per game. under 7 rebounds per game for a legit 7 footer is a cause for concern, though.

>>149418990
Since they’re gonna be loaded at guard spots, I would go for defensively versatile forward to go next to Wemby because I don’t trust Sochan.

>Collin Murray Boyles
>Rasheer Fleming
>Carter Bryant


Murray-Boyles cant shoot the 3 consistently yet, but his game is super connective. Very switchable defender and probably projects as one of the most versatile defenders in this draft. He’s also a very good passer, and doesn’t need the ball to have an impact.
Rasheer is a fucked up athlete that is 6’9 and has a 7’6 wingspan, shoots the 3 at a relatively high percentage. Can totally wreck a game for a few possessions a game with his length.
Carter Bryant is the rawest prospect because he’s a freshman who didn’t play much, but his shot form looks impressive and believers in his game compare him favorably to an OG Anunoby kind of player once here develops.

How does Duke have 3 guys going in the top 10 and they didn't even make the NCAA finals this year? They're all going to be busts aren't they? If those three were that good they should've won the finals in a blowout.

>>149418976
>still named the wizards
sorry, the franchise will remain cursed until you change the name back to the bullets (or to anything but the wizards)

>>149419055
I think he has defensive issues due to being not good enough defensively to be a full time center nor is he a great perimeter defender. But I bet if he wasn't making 20+ mil there would definitely be more interest. Jazz really need a year where they aren't trying to be total shit with the worst backcourts possible so that Collins and Lauri can finally get moved.

What thoughts come to your mind when you see this image?

>>149419043
lmao this guys name is vagina

>>149419098
NCAA tournament is a meme due to it being single elimination. Also, it leans towards older players while Duke was filled with freshmen.

>>149419112
That Diddy Wade raped his son

Ace have BUST written all over him but I do like that level delusional confident.

>>149419098
>How does Duke have 3 guys going in the top 10 and they didn't even make the NCAA finals this year?
Thank Clanker Flagg

>>149419112
>>149419112
I thought about this before, Lebron is simply a better father than them

what about Larry Birds children btw?

>>149419098
>rutgers has two top 5 guys
>rutgers missed the tournament completely
fraudwatch starts here

>>149419133
This, major red flag. Gonna be a Fulz scenario all over again.

>>149419112
So Magic really got AIDS from gay sex huh?

>>149419131
>what about Larry Birds children btw?

>>149419133
Missing the tournament completely is a huge fraud alert

>>149419112
this image implies that only lebron's son is following in his footsteps
but magic's son is working hard to get HIV just like his pop
jordan is the only bad father of the three

>>149419149
duh

>>149419133
rutgers was not good. They played the portal wrong and blew all their money on those 2. You aren't winning shit in college with just 2 freshmen and nothing else no matter how talented they are

>>149419155
oof and this is his sister

>>149419130
Flagg chokes with the pressure on and also notable in the gif is the great center Moloch getting shoved out of the way by much smaller guys and not even coming close to pulling down that rebound.
I guess having 9000+ Duke vets in the media really helps Duke prospects get picked high, they certainly didn't put up a performance on the court to justify it.

>>149419112
Being the GOAT means having only daughters

>>149419186
>kobrspics still think he's relevant

I only give my dog bottled water. Only the best for my king.

>>149419205
plastic bottles? surely you're feeding him human-grade food too.

>>149419205
>microplastics
Kings drink out of glass

kobe was just iverson with better teammates and better marketing

>>149419133
They were the only two D1 caliber players on that team. It was basically 2vs5

>>149419185
>not even coming close to pulling down that rebound
He actually didn't get a single rebound in that game

>>149419186
Does it mean also killing your daughters in brutal helicopter crashes? Can you imagine how terrified Kobe and Gigi were in their last seconds? She probably kept saying "I'm scared dad!".

>>149419205
install a reverse osmosis membrane filter to your kitchen sink and it's better quality than bottled water, doesn't cost much either.

>>149419174
Theres always a black sheep in every family. Most of them posts here

>>149419235
>>149419235
>>149419235
draft thread

>>149419232
Thanks for the tip

these prospects looking zesty

>>149416938
He's using his player option to stay like the putz he is
https://www.denverpost.com/2025/06/22/dario-saric-exercises-player-option-nuggets-2025-salary-contract/

>>149419227
>>149419172
sorry, i'm trusting my high IQ over people who waste their time watching college basketball

>>149419222
Kobe was a better defender. But that said Kobe would also retire ring less if he were in AI’s position and I can’t imagine a world where Iverson and Shaq wouldn’t win at least 3 in a row too

>>149419249
LMAO

>>149419264
Being a better defender than a 5'10" guy isnt that hard when youre a 6'8" guard

>>149419253
your high IQ that doesn't account for context and circumstances? Shit I guess everybody is retarded and Clayton Jr should just go #1

reminder Kobr lead the lakers team that has its worst record in franchise history even worse than THE Vlade Divac

>>149419230
You... You BASTARD! That's NOT okay to say

>>149419281
whatchu know about Vlade

why tmac hatin

>>149419276
now you're using your noggin

>>149419309
I mean considering he couldn't even make it past the 1st round with yao fucking ming (he's overrated too but still) probably not

>>149419309
he's not wrong but he's a bitch waiting this long to get on a big platform after kobe's death to shit on him. what's most fucked up is klutch mafia convincing ESPN to give all these kobe haters a platform. and i'm a fucking kobe hater myself

>>149419268
Yes indeed. Overpays combined with Player Options are the absolute devil lol. Nuggets fucked.

Whatchu know about the actual Euro GOAT Bodiroga https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQEzmPKdqt4

>>149419330
that's just the players, if anything espn themselves have been way nicer to kobe and his legacy than they were when he was alive
people seem to forget how frequently kobrick was thrown around, now you never see or hear it anymore

>comparing kobe to iverson
LeXing bots out in full force today it seems

>>149419328
rockets were cursed with injuries

>>149415427
>>149415479
KD doesn't need a woman, he'll find a way to clone himself.

I've never had sex

>>149415400 (OP)
I think brown and white ultimately get moved. Way too much chirping for them to not. Sounds like Brad is getting a bidding war and he'll get an offer he can't refuse. He'll come away with a haul that will make the haters cry

I think I have BPD or some other personality disorder

>>149419391
I agree, wonder who gets them

>>149419361
i see it just a little differently. as you said, ESPN trashed Kobe when he stunk it up but when LeBron put up 0 points in the 4th quarter of the playoffs this year they through Luka under the bus

>>149419391
I think Jaylen gets moved and it becomes Tatum's team two seasons from now when he plays again and they get a lottery pick

>>149419296
I remember he had flak for flopping when watching the games he didn't flop that much, he was a finesses center so he looked weaker

>>149419351
Btfo

>>149419391
white definitely but I feel like they're just dangling brown as bait
celshits are basically shipping off anyone 30 and older

>>149419384
based celibacy endurer

>>149419384
we know Ranjesh

>>149418606
Hmmmm.... I think LeBum is...
....
....
....
too old for this to work.

I hate being a fan of this team but I have been since they were the hornets and I first got into basketball and now it's a sunk cost fallacy

What would lebron do for work if he was 5'8 not 6'8?

We're in the NIL era where lottery pick college players are already millionaires and not ghetto kids looking for their first pay day. These fake rebuilding teams should be told to go fuck themselves and players should force their way to actual rebuilding teams.

https://streamable.com/gdhmyw
>the woke espn made cooper fagg black
grim

>>149419474
what about the jordan poole trade

>>149419518
there's no need to tease our gentle anon like that

Bailey is a 6'9" James Harden with hops and athleticism.

>>149419487

half of lottery picks nowadays are millionaires from the womb because their dad played in the NBA 20 years ago

>>149419540
What made Harden great was his mind for bending the rules until they broke. No way an athlete babby can get that mindset.

Whatchu know about the GOAT Fred Again... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08C987fQEKU

>>149419487
Don't worry, based Silver made sure the perpetual shit teams like Charlotte and Wiz didn't get a top 3 pick in a good draft like this. Hopefully Silver gets rid of the draft entirely next.

>>149419518
What does it do for us? It's not like CJ was an all star caliber player all these years, it's a marginal upgrade I guess? The Pelicans are still going to be a trash team next year.

The only good thing is they could potentially trade Poole next year if he plays well and flip him for some picks or something better if the Pels are going to a full blown rebuild.

Damn. I definitely think Bronnie's heart condition probably stunted his growth. Like he didn't get adequate blood circulation his whole life or something.

>>149418652
>putting their bodies on the line
Ben Simmons ran away from Trae Young >training year round
Yeah, so does everybody on /fit. If the training doesn't help you show up for the shit you're actually being paid for it's just recreational
playing through pain
Not if you don't play in the fucking games at all you're not

>>149419518
what about it?

>>149419586
Fred's the white dude right? Yeah he's carrying hard in that clip

>>149419422
Tatum is cooked and Brad Stevens knows it. He will probably try and get as many picks as possible from trades and then start tanking the next years with a washed Tatum.

So I guess you are right, the Celtics will finally become Tatum's team. Just not the type of team the fans in Boston thought of a few years ago

>>149419613
yeah he's insane

white people really throwing a block party cause one nigga is getting drafted?

>>149419513
nice one

Pooper is to white people what Lebron was to brothers

kerr really the worst guy

>>149419632
When you're rich and famous, people come out of the woodwork wanting to be around and associated with you. At least that's what I see, not that I would ever actually know.

>>149419660
kerr will bench u if ur trash no matter who u are

>>149419309
trvke

>>149419660
anybody who watched this nigga play would know he cant ball
Will throw up 30 ppg on the wizards with a 6-76 record tho

>>149419660
He averaged 15 in this recent playoffs off the bench and Kerr still refused to play him more minutes despite Curry being injured and Podz being complete trash.

>>149419112
Volumes. Levels even.

>>149419660
Kumnigga sucks. The only reason he got any minutes at all was to trade to trade bait him. But statistically, he's a low efficiency bad rebounding no meme shot no BBIQ forward

>>149419676
Being a benchwarmer coming off of winning a ring is fucking hilarious

>>149419660
come to my bulce coominga

i cant believe we wasted a year of nba basketball for OKC to win a championship... nobody cares and nobody will remember

at least the pacers would have been wholesome

>>149419717
NuGen refuses to send the uncs to Valhalla and then wonder how they end up nailed to the bench for Team USA

>>149419112
>do whatever u want son...oh shit maybe i shouldn't have said that
>do whatever u want son...oh shit maybe i shouldn't have said that
>you have no free will. your only purpose is to further my legacy. the only thing you will do in the nba is appear in one game with the griffeys so i can steal their thunder then you can do whatever idc

hear me out
bailey gets picked up by suns at #10 with that sorry ass first rounder they got for kd

>>149419235
>>149419235
>>149419235
DRAFT THREAD IN 15

>>149419748
>give your kid no direction no future in a choice paralysis world
vs
>build a tradition, guide your offspring into the proud growing family business
Infinite choice is a myth

>>149419229
Must be using his Moloch magic to get picked in the draft at all, what a bum.

When will people realize that Giannis or Jokic will never leave their teams? European superstars are loyal and are often one team players by the time they retire, only American players ring-chase.

>>149419748
>I skipped all those snowbunnies to farther my legacy, you better not fuck it up

>>149419717
>winning a ring
Gaytum doesn't have a ring.

>>149415405
>>149415405

recycle because I feel bad for him and Embiid

>>149419911
first a pity mvp now a pity thread on /sp/...

>>149419920
lmfao

>>149419660
his a loser whenever he scored big the dubs would lose I fucking lothe this coon and went him gone from my dubbies

>>149420059
>his a loser
>lothe
>went him
Fucking hell, Rajesh.