Thread 149745422 - /sp/ [Archived: 401 hours ago]

Anonymous United Kingdom
7/12/2025, 8:33:59 PM No.149745422
call that a fucking star
call that a fucking star
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Ladies and gentlemen, your first ever quadruple winners in football.
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Anonymous Japan
7/12/2025, 8:35:40 PM No.149745444
>>149745422 (OP)
Barça and Bayern both have a sextuple.
PSG in on track for the first ever septuple though.
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Anonymous Venezuela
7/12/2025, 8:38:55 PM No.149745493
>>149745444
>PSG becomes the first team to ever win a septuple
the soullesness is insane
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Anonymous United Kingdom
7/12/2025, 8:41:24 PM No.149745520
>>149745444
>sextuple
we're talking about REAL trophies here, m8. not one off mickey mouse bullshit
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Anonymous Japan
7/12/2025, 8:52:28 PM No.149745655
>>149745493
PSG is not soulless thoughever
>>149745520
Even if you don't count the European and domestic super cups, the remaining (6th) trophy is literally the FIFA Club World Cup in its original format.
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Anonymous France
7/12/2025, 8:59:27 PM No.149745760
>>149745655
it is soulless thoughever
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Anonymous Japan
7/12/2025, 9:06:08 PM No.149745883
>>149745760
I beg to differ thoughbeit
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Anonymous United Kingdom
7/12/2025, 9:12:57 PM No.149745995
>>149745655
original cwc was just a super cup though, this is a real proper legit authentic tournament
Anonymous France
7/12/2025, 10:08:43 PM No.149746884
>>149745883
>created ONLY in 1970
>was artificially conceived because at the time no paris club played in the 1st div and people thought the capital "deserved" to be at the top
>started in 2nd division and never in the lower divisions (due to "merging" with the saint-germain en laye club having just been promoted in 2nd division)
>before being bought by qatar, club was on the verge of falling in 2nd division
>only had a moderate fanbase, many in paris were OM and OL fans
>is now owned by qatar mercenaries who use the club to promote their shitty country
>their legacy is 90% thanks to oil money, before qatar they had good silverware but not enough to be considered a historical french club
>when the arabs bought the club, they removed the little cradle under the eiffel tower (symbol of saint-germain en laye) and made the "saint-germain" text super small, cucking the real city from which the club originates (it's not as flashy and marketable as paris)
>also forbid the historical ultra groups (kop of boulogne, virage auteil 91) to come to the stadium
>now only accepts the VA91 ultras (now known as collectif ultra paris, "CUP") to come who are notoriously composed of nafris and blacks from parisian suburbs
>the most historical fan group (KOB) is still forbidden because they are considered right-wing
>outside of the part of the stadium that is occupied by the CUP, you get kicked out if you stand up and sing
>most fans only started supporting the club once it started winning
only man shitty could be competing with PSG for a "who is more soulless" contest
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Anonymous France
7/12/2025, 10:11:17 PM No.149746936
>>149746884
also forgot to add this
>their rivalry with OM was 100% artificially forged by the owners of the two clubs at the time because they knew it would bring in more attendance and viewers, and thus more money
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Anonymous France
7/12/2025, 10:39:13 PM No.149747471
>>149746884
>created ONLY in 1970
Its ancestor club existed since the 19th century thoughly
The rest is true though, my cousins from Paris are still OM fans kek
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Anonymous France
7/12/2025, 10:46:27 PM No.149747632
>>149746936
Easily one of the most embarrassing things about French football
Anonymous Japan
7/12/2025, 11:37:06 PM No.149748432
>>149746884
PSG was created in 1970 only because Stade St Germain was merged into Paris FC and then the Paris FC owners abandoned their original plans.
The fact that the new club retained the fandom of the original Stade St Germain and that it rose to 1st division the same season that Paris FC when down to 2nd is extremely soul.
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Anonymous Switzerland
7/12/2025, 11:39:15 PM No.149748464
>>149746884
Billionaire sisters ... can we bury this post like the Epstein list?
Anonymous France
7/12/2025, 11:40:05 PM No.149748474
>>149747471
>>149748432
the ancestor club (stade saint-germanois) was created in 1904, however I don't know if it's really fair to consider that PSG inherits from them, in the sense that st-germain were really only used in order to make the club start in 2nd division, they also took their stadium and made it a training camp (the camp des loges) and nothing else
psg doesn't even train in camp des loges anymore
when you consider how the cradle got removed and how the "saint-germain" was made so small on the logo (whereas before it was written in the same size as paris), it's pretty clear that in the minds of many, they dont care about this former club at all
saint-germain most likely only had a small fanbase of locals (not from paris) who probably switched to PSG after the merge, but they are like a drop of water in the ocean among all the other fans who didn't know its existence before the merge (keep in mind it was a small amateur club)
before PSG, paris was mostly represented by red star (despite being from saint-ouen), stade français and racing club, the oldest psg fans most logically switched from these to PSG (instead of supporting a small amateur club that isn't even from paris itself)
also I just learnt this (from wikipedia)
>Two years after the merger, on May 16, 1972, the club's Ordinary General Meeting met to vote on whether or not to accept the name change demanded by the Paris City Council, i.e. that the club should be called Paris Football Club with no mention of Saint-Germain. In fact, an initial count gave the “yes” side the upper hand. However, a recount changed the outcome: 939 votes were cast out of 1191 registered; 623 members accepted the conditions laid down by the city of Paris, while 316 remained loyal to the name “Paris Saint-Germain”. However, to amend the club's articles of association, a 2/3 majority of the votes cast is required, in this case 626 votes. Three votes were therefore missing, and the proposal was therefore rejected.
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Anonymous Japan
7/13/2025, 12:21:26 AM No.149749157
>>149748474
>in the sense that st-germain were really only used in order to make the club start in 2nd division
I don't know where you're getting this from.
Here's the timeline as I understand it:
1969 Paris FC is created as an entity but doesn't actually have a team
1970 Stade St Germain, in the 3rd division, is selected to merge with Paris FC, creating Paris St Germain
1972 Paris St Germain, now in 1st division, is requested to drop the St Germain name but fails do to so (as you've described), prompting a split between Paris FC (which keeps the main team and the 1st division spot) and Paris St Germain (which starts over from the 3rd division with the reserve team).
1973 PSG is promoted to 2nd division
1974 Paris FC is relegated to the 2nd division while PSG is promoted to the 1st division
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Anonymous United Kingdom
7/13/2025, 12:23:58 AM No.149749197
>>149745422 (OP)
i honestly thought luis enrique was a fraud, i still kinda do i think he's just got really lucky with his players all switching on
Anonymous United States
7/13/2025, 12:49:57 AM No.149749681
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>>149745422 (OP)
It's been a pretty good year for France
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Anonymous France
7/13/2025, 1:49:07 AM No.149750714
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>>149749157
at the end of the 1969 season, saint-germain got promoted to 2nd division and became semi-professional
think about it, why out of all clubs did paris choose to merge with saint-germain? solely for that opportunity to skip going through the lower divisions up until becoming professionnal
in 1970-1971, PSG for their first season ever, started in 2nd division (not 3rd) won the championship and got to D1 for the next season
the rest is correct
>Union athlétique Sedan-Torcy was approached to merge with PSG, so that PSG could join the French soccer elite directly. However, the club, which had already attempted and then abandoned a merger with Racing to form “RC Paris-Sedan”, rejected the proposal. Following the League's refusal to accept the club directly into D1, the directors finally turned their attention to the clubs at the lower level, where president Henri Patrelle's Stade Saint-Germain was preparing to qualify for the new National championship (D2). After an extraordinary meeting, the plan to merge with Stade Saint-Germain takes shape.

the average attendance rates are grim
1970-71: camp des loges stadium (in saint-germain)
71-72: bauer stadium (not in paris, but still a bigger stadium)
72-74: camp des loges
(psg only moved to parc des princes in 1974-75)
i dont know if attendance rates statistics exist for saint-germain before the merge (probably not) but it would have been interesting to compare them
if we consider that stade saint-germanois played in the same stadium and in the same division that during 72-73, we can approximate their old attendance rates to around 600 (very small)
so yes, the old saint-germain fans that switched to psg are like I said, a drop of water in the ocean
from the perspective of "fan continuity", i wouldn't say PSG deserves to be called the heir of saint-germain
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Anonymous France
7/13/2025, 1:51:35 AM No.149750743
>>149749681
this game is overrated filth
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Anonymous Japan
7/13/2025, 2:10:04 AM No.149751053
>>149750714
By your own admission, if the (possible) 600 fans Stade St Germain might have had stuck with PSG through the merger/split/restart from 3rd division drama, that alone would work for fan continuity.
Of course PSG gained more fans as it rose to 1st division (something Stade St Germain never did) and attempted to represent Paris in a broader sense and not just Stade St Germain.
Also, considering the punishment for refusing to drop St Germain from the name was to start over from the 3rd division, I don't think you have a good case to assume that the St Germain identity of the club was not valued by the members and fans.
>>149750743
>hates PSG
>hates expedition 33
Who hurt you anon.
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Anonymous France
7/13/2025, 2:49:09 AM No.149751696
>>149751053
600 is a really little number, not even 1000
5 years after that season, the numbers of fans would be in the tens of thousands

in my opinion, you can only talk of fan continuity if the original fanbase keeps a preponderance (like if, let's say among all the people who are old enough to have known stade st germain, at least 50% were fans) OR if the newer fans claim themselves to be the heir of this old club, "follow the traditions" and honour the past (it's not the case)
the old fanbase got "great replaced", diluted all the newer fans who consider the club to represent paris and its suburbs, with no particular attention to st germain
the only mentions of st germain you will hear in the chants when they name the club, they say "paris SG" not even "saint-germain" lol, they sing about paris, their "light city" but never st germain
its always "here is paris, paris is magic" never saint-germain

>attempted to represent Paris in a broader sense and not just Stade St Germain
the club, since its been bought by qatar, has never shown any interest in saint germain
you will never see the date 1904 shown by the club, everyone considers it to be 1970
I don't think current fans care
>I don't think you have a good case to assume that the St Germain identity of the club was not valued by the members and fans.
when in its first season ever in 1st division in the parc des princes, the club had an average attendance of 17000 (more than 10 times the possible 600 old st germain fans), I would say its reasonable to say that fans most likely had no idea of the existence of this old saint germain club, or had only heard about it a few times (since it never went above 3rd division)
as for the club itself, honestly I'm not sure but I don't think they had any special connection with saint-germain other than having their training camp there, and using the "white" from the stade saint germain kit, along with the blue and red colours that represent paris (see the hechter design)