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>July 26th ESPN
Xander Zayas vs Jorge Garcia Perez

>July 30th
Kenshiro Teraji vs Ricardo Sandoval
Antonio Vargas vs Daigo Higa

>>149873873 (OP)
Manny please retire

Pacquiao was at one point speculated to fight Cryan Garcia.

He would've made even more money than this fight against Barrios. And it would've been an EASY win.

Pacquiao beats rolly up based off of this

>>149873873 (OP)
Very grim schedule there. Low effort.

>>149873909
Manny here, ok I will now that you said please

What's next for our favorite warrior tim zoo

>>149873909
This is Manny here, please tell it to my wife

Fury victorious? Twice.

Yes.

>>149873936
Go back down to 147 because it's apparently he can't hang at 154. Too many killers in the division. 147 is the dead division.

Lets just be honest
Usyk would beat all your favourite boxers in their prime

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Check it out

>>149873909
ONE. LAST. RUN.

>>149874036
2004 called

>>149873973
You know damn well his wife spending all his money

Usyk is the king of boxing

>>149874067
First row sports

>>149874078
He's the king of dogshite.

>>149874078
King of draft dodging who lives in Spain

>all the records are edited to zoom in on their faces + a scoreboard on the bottom left
upload when bros......

>>149874078
The real king of boxing just went to a draw tonight

>>149873936
quit stool

>>149874113
So he's the king of england then?

>35 deleted posts in the last thread

YIKES

Fucker's been awake for 24 hours not sleeping

Woke up, got a coffee and strawberries, watched the fight now. TOTAL DISMEMBERMENT. Taken to the cleaners and knocked the fuck out Tony Bellew style. IN 5 ROUNDS.
The GOAT.

p.s

>Bongsa
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA
>Fin
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>149874539
Dubois quit on the mat, didnt make it to the stool this time.

Godsyk

>>149874539
Go back through the previous threads and look up the deleted posts for a laugh.

>>149874586
Which is what all the real ones here predicted last time I posted here like 2 weeks ago.
Usyk would break him mentally and get him gone. Didn't expect it to be so quick.

>>149874630
The mentally ill freak is probably going to sleep in all day and then wake up to spam for 24 hours

Prime Mayweather beats any fighter who has ever lived below 165 pounds

I love boxing so godamn much

Fury won. Twice.

Cope on.

Anyway, back in the real world, where does this put Usyk in the ATG list?
This eras greatest by far. But I think he'd beat anyone including Lennox.

Oh, and Usoyk? 1-1 with Dubois.

>>149874396
Brutal
>>149874410
Jesus Christ...

>>149874857
Go to sleep you freak

Usyk made England look like 4th world in Boxing. Absolutely schooled, dominated, humiliated and massacred.
The English flag is blue/yellow.

>>149874064
Take the rematch.

Reminds me of Hopkins vs Pascal.
First fight ended in a draw too.
B-Hop was same age as Manny too.

This is the strongest HW has been in 20 years and Usyk fought the best and never lost a round
Pretty much confirmed GOAT

>>149874913
Even though you are probably a meme flag I would still bet Fury or AJ beats any fighter who has ever came from your country, ever

>>149874949
Zhanibek beats Fury. Fury will never take that fight.

... And still 0-1 with Chisora.

>>149873936
Charlo fight

>>149874967
He doesn't though does he

There isn't a non Ukrainian man born from his mother's cunt who Tyson Fury wouldn't beat

>>149874988
>a non Ukrainian man
Awful new cope. And there's plenty. Quite a few he's already ducked in his career as well.

>>149874949
>>149875001
It would be incredible if just by the virtue of the nonce being wrong all the time, the next big heavyweight came from Kazakhstan.

>>149874949
KazakhGODs are always right.

Dubois looked stiff and slow, like a 1 dimensional being, fighting a 3 dimensional being.

>>149875018
Spark out.
Levels.

>>149875028
Why you always say I'm a nonce because of a post in Brit years ago you spastic I was never charged.

I got carfished by some freak on brit and they started the rumour I was a nonce

>>149875073
I'm just joining in with everyone else, but thanks for confirming it. KYS. Fury lost.

Heavyweight boxing is so dire right now.
Cruiserweight guy becomes two times undisputed and the next best ranked guy is now Joseph Parker.

So much for the English boxing era. Kek

I hope they can stop jamming Tim Tszyu down our throats now, bloke is a disgrace. Send him to Russia to get a drone rammed up him

Usyk has better boxing skills than Ali and Tyson

Comments all over the boxing media are finally starting to give Usyk the props he deserves. Seeing multiple high rated comments calling him ATG.

I would like to see turki investing some shekels on 126 and 160, on paper we could see fun fights at 126 but the fuckers are waiting for the inoue payday, while at 160 the guys are ducking janibek

>>149872455
I am not from your part of the world (Central America), I know mejicanos love to cling onto being geographically considered North America, but lets be honest, you and honduras, nicas, salvadorians are basically Indians and Pakistanis

>>149875124
You mean bot accounts God you are gullible

Imagine being so dim you formulate your opinions (on sports no less) based on internet comment sections and not the actual boxing

>>149875098
Confirming that someone made up lies im a nonce due to manipulating my words?

>>149875218
Reminds me of this one Finnish guy who simps for Feary

>>149875222
These drooling lobotomites believe in edited screenshots and 4chan hearsay don't waste your time and just be antagonistic it is all these shits deserve
>>149875233
I don't understand your homosexual slang terms

>>149875123
>Usyk has better boxing skills than Ali

>>149875202
>>149875249
>>149875218
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
SORE LOSER

>>149875273
Yes and Usyk would wipe the floor with Ali

>>149875249
Fury and Dubois lost. Twice.

>>149875273
It's genuinely not even close

Man how good is Usyk's chin, Daniel landed a good right hand on him just before he got dropped and Usyk barely budged.

>>149875424
Very good. Furry landed a perfectly timed knockout uppercut on him.

>>149875273
Ali was a bit weak to left hooks and didn't fight many southpaws. Tyson never fought a single southpaw, i think he absolutely hated the match up in sparring and was like nah never.

Lennox and Vitali would give Usyk tough nights though. Wlad apparently got beat up by Usyk in sparring and kicked him out of his gym or something like that so hes not in the running.

>>149875330
He wouldn't though. You seem to forget Ali's chin was made from granite, and for all of Usyk's shifting and tactical nous - Ali had just as much.

If the fight was to happen by today's standards I'd have Usyk winning but it would be by split decision.

Mind you, I think the most fascinating fight would be Holyfield v Usyk.

>>149875574
Ali and Dundee would study Usyk and find something, they were very good at that and Ali had success in rematches but Usyk being the same size as Ali makes it more difficult.
A 5'11 Fraizer for example he could wrap up and lean on in the second fight but Usyk that's not really an option.

It would be an interesting match, Ali would probably be a different fighter if he had to deal with slavic southpaws and giant 6'7+ guys like Fury, Wilder etc.

>>149873873 (OP)
Usyk won.
Mixed Martial Arts won.
/heem/ won.

>>149875574
Gotta remember Ali lost to Norton.

/heem/ always wins. Haneystonia always loses.
Imithe anois.
I will be back.

>>149875574
>He wouldn't though. You seem to forget Ali's chin was made from granite, and for all of Usyk's shifting and tactical nous - Ali had just as much.
Ali got dropped several times. Usyk would absolutely batter Ali.
A lot of people overrate the past fighters and I think Ali has the best resume at heavyweight, but if we put him in this era, he would have a lot of trouble with AJ and Fury. Ali never fought anyone that big.

>>149875689
Oh look it's little sniffles snitchington the janman's best friend :)

Why are all heavyweight boxing champs usually old as fuck?

>>149875574
Ali had a padded record full of bums, like other "great". Usyk or any top heavyweight today would destroy him.

Ali faced killers in his career. Usyk dominated an era of weak and inactive heavyweights with Chisora giving him problems. Usyk does not reign supreme in the golden heavyweight era.

Fury would have beat prime Ali, he only got robbed by Usyk due to politics.

>>149875699
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

>>149875777
Ah yes, those Saudis are real big supporters of Ukraine!

>>149875797
They support israel you sound like a pigshit thick daily mail reader
>>149875790
What's funny about box snitch knishes

>nonces still seething

>>149875811
You pushed the horse and lost

I never lose I lament in torment

>>149875724
He did admit he was in the bum of the month club kek.
But Ali did beat the best of his era none the less. He didn't dominate them besides Foreman and Liston but Usyk had close fights with Fury and AJ too.

That Liston fight though is suss. Phantom punch or Mafia fix, who knows.

Oosk is the goat

>>149875866
Foreman would have won the rematch. Ali's style was all wrong for him, so he would need to come up with a solid game plan instead of his usual style. Just look how he smashed Frazier, the man who gave Ali his hardest fights.

"If size matter elephant would be king of jungle" - GODSYK

>>149875889
90's Foreman brain in 70's Foreman's body would be a lethal combo. Not to take anything away from Ali but damn Foreman punched himself out like an amateur.

>>149875903
It would be interesting to see how his cross guard would fair against Ali. It's such an efficient way to deflect jabs, it would nullify a lot of Ali's offense. However, Ali could certainly improvise as he did against Frazier.

I hate this so much at least Fivey isn't here to enjoy my misery

Well congrats usyk I guess
Its 1-1 now

>>149875954
2 - 0

>>149875991
How do you fall for it everytime I begin to wonder if it's ableist of the 'Cord to frequent /box/

>>149876032
Fury Lost

>>149876042
It was Dubois vs Usyk you pillock

HW looking grim as hell when usyk retires..

>>149876117
Don't know who to root for desu. They're all so boring. Fury's style was interesting but he's so unlikable.

>Uysk will be remembered as an ATG
>Loma will be remembered for losing to a cab driver
Where did things go so wrong?

>>149876344
Right in the beginning when loma demanded a title shot before he'd had his first pro fight.

>>149876117
>>149876328
Yeah, after Usyk leaves it's dead. The guy I like most will be Parker and he's not young.

>>149876414
I suppose if Itauma gets a haircut and a shave I could follow him.

Usyk has 4 losses. Fury twice, AJ once and Dubois once.

>>149876490
Skipping your meds?

>>149876344
loma is a mental midget

Usyk should fight Wilder just to fully clean out the division.

Dubois seems to mentally crumble and give up when he can't hit someone

Get Moses Itauma in there with 'syk

>>149876695
That is what Turncoat Al Alshady said but it should be Parker

cant believe they robbed my boy pac of a win last night. why do PBC keep bailing Barrios out of these close fights ESPECIALLY against Pac of all people? If he had won that belt imagine how much money they could have made with a unification fight with Pac against Haney/Norman? or hell even a regular title fight with Pac taking on some other young popular guy like teofimo, cryan, rolly etc. if they do a rematch with Pac vs. Barrios then im gonna pick Pac with full confidence, if he managed to beat him coming off 6 YEARS of inactivity and with only one training camp then i see no reason why he couldnt do even better while hes fresher, has less ring rust and has an understanding of how limited Barrios truly is.
it was good to see the old men in usyk and pac perform well last night, class is truly permanent. Bam also looked phenomenal as usual, demolished a solid champ in Cafu with ease. only thing that was a bummer was seeing tszyu get destroyed, Murt took his soul
>>149876344
Loma just had less fortunate timing in his career than usyk. usyks career has been incredible but only because boxing politics has very luckily not been able to fuck him over like it has so many others like loma. cruiserweight during usyks era, though probably the most stacked it had ever been to that point in time, was still mostly uncared for by the general public, the only person who fought there who was popular was Bellew. nobody there was with a promoter who was willing to protect them from dangerous fights in fear of their stock dropping from a loss which is why the WBSS even happened there with so many top fighters in it.
and when usyk moved to heavyweight, AJ and Hearn probably wouldve ducked him if he had not looked a bit lacklustre against chisora. the fury fights also literally only happened because some random fucking desert prince nobody had heard of prior suddenly became super interested in boxing and basically strong armed fury into the fights kek

Rate Pacquiao's son (red)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BwNtwoomV0

>>149876752
>Loma just had less fortunate timing in his career than usyk. usyks career has been incredible but only because boxing politics has very luckily not been able to fuck him over like it has so many others like loma. cruiserweight during usyks era, though probably the most stacked it had ever been to that point in time, was still mostly uncared for by the general public, the only person who fought there who was popular was Bellew. nobody there was with a promoter who was willing to protect them from dangerous fights in fear of their stock dropping from a loss which is why the WBSS even happened there with so many top fighters in it.
>and when usyk moved to heavyweight, AJ and Hearn probably wouldve ducked him if he had not looked a bit lacklustre against chisora. the fury fights also literally only happened because some random fucking desert prince nobody had heard of prior suddenly became super interested in boxing and basically strong armed fury into the fights kek
TLDR: God Blessed Oleksandr Usyk

>>149876754
I think his work rate isn't that impressive for a 3-round amateur fight.

God I am miserable

Briedis is still the only man who you could argue beat Uysk, HW is full of bums

It's just not fair

>>149876490
Trve

>live in the era of 3 undisputed champions
>PPVs are going to be a thing of the past
>top fights are happening year round now, no more dodging
Boxing has never been more back, meanwhile MMA is about to collapse

Parker beats the piggie

Itauma is all wrong for Usyk. Styles make fights y'all.

>>149876752
Pacquiao is washed up, dude, and I was the one who hyped him up to KO Barrios. Still a more entertaining scripted fight than the scripted Shakur fight, though.

>>149876939
>>149876979
The copes are getting quiet, lacking energy, like a final breath of air.

>>149876993
It's called a death rattle you silly ESLer

>>149876991
Honestly it was fixed af but in a way i'm glad that it was... Otherwise we would've had vietnam flashbacks of december 2012 and at Pac's age that would've ended horribly. Hope he doesn't take a fight against Tank, he's psychotic enough to go all out on grandpa pac

>>149876594
Why bother with wilder? Wilder has the most padded hw record I can think of, just a can crusher only in it for money and got KOed by Zang who's pushing 50. I think it's probably Parker then retirement for Usyk or maybe the saudis will offer silly money to fight that giant moron again.

You now remember when Ortiz and Millar were called the boogie men of the heavyweight division
Thank God for uysk and his excellency Turki

Parker will 100% spoil usyk's record and retirement fight

>>149876979
I know you're baiting but I actually think this might be true. Itauma's speed and reactions might be too fast for Usyk, although it wasn't often there was the odd occasion where he got caught by Dubois, Fury and Joshua, if he can be caught by them just imagine what Itauma could do

>>149877062
>Bumkole on 3 hours notice
>60yo zhang where he got dropped twice
>Wilder
Peach of run

GOD'S HOLY WARRIOR HAS CROSSED YOUR PATH, YOU SHALL GAIN ACCESS TO HEAVEN IN THE AFTERLIFE BUT ONLY IF YOU REPLY TO THIS POST WITH "God bless you, Oleksandr".

I heard Tysoy Queery is coming out of retirement to fight Wogshua

truly the slavic looksmaxxed couple
ugly ass dude that looks like a bond villain with a beautiful woman that looks like a pornstar

>>149877211
Usyk isn't bad looking 2bf

mfw I fell asleep on the couch again

3x undisputed now, great stuff.

>>149877217
he's grugmaxxed

HW boxers need to learn to box again, we have KO merchants like wilder, AJ and Dubois who wouldn't crack top 10 in any other era at the top for too long.

How was the Okolie fight? Absolute dogshit like usual?

Fury victorious twice.
Dubois robbed once.
Usoyk propped up by the CIA.
Simple as.

>>149875714
Because zoomies are too homosexual and talentless to practice boxing and would rather indulge in womanly activities such as training soccer

>>149877514
True, true

Dubois won. Twice.

>>149877343
yep, though in fairness to him he tore his bicep in the early rounds

Turki seethes nonstop whenever a fighter doesnt want to be on his cards

>>149877514
The /box/ consensus. Hear! Hear!

>>149876752
>usyks career has been incredible but only because boxing politics has very luckily not been able to fuck him over like it has so many others like loma.
>AJ and Hearn probably wouldve ducked him if he had not looked a bit lacklustre against chisora. the fury fights also literally only happened because some random fucking desert prince nobody had heard of prior suddenly became super interested in boxing and basically strong armed fury into the fights kek
Excellent points.
Usyk truly has God on his side.

Updated schedule

>July 26th ESPN
Xander Zayas vs Jorge Garcia Perez
Bruce Carrington vs. Mateus Heita

>July 30th
Kenshiro Teraji vs Ricardo Sandoval
Antonio Vargas vs Daigo Higa

>August 16th DAZN
Moses Itauma vs. Dillian Whyte
Nick Ball vs. Sam Goodman
Raymond Ford vs. Abraham Nova
Filip Hrgovic vs. David Adeleye

How would Usyk fare against Holyfield, Tyson, Ibeabuchi and Lewis at their peak?

>>149873873 (OP)
This is box
Imagine watching PooFC kekaroo

Itauma needs at least another 5 years of experience to last even a round with Usyk
Just another overhyped britbum project who's good at fighting plumbers and farmers

>>149873861
>Cafu spent nearly all of his time in every round willingly backed into the corner refusing to engage beyond defensive jabs
>Cafu looked like he was waiting for a counter but forgot he needed to also throw the punch
Yeah it was a very odd strategy if you can call it that.

>>149878142
>against Holyfield
Holyfield by decision.
>Tyson
Tyson by late KO/TKO.
>Ibeabuchi
Uysk by decision, wins with counterpunch knockdowns.
>Lewis
Usyk by KO/TKO in the middle rounds.

>>149876922
Is this a post from 2017?

Well?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSCevVvbd3Y

>>149875954
Salty

>>149875104
I hope I don't see a an usyk joshua or fury trilogy
Neither do I want to see him fight parker

Dude should stop fighting 10times the same guy Id rather see him vs kabayel or even jalolov/moses itauma but you could say that those 2 haven't earned it but still better than seeing the same fights we have already seen

Timmy Tszyu...what happened there?

big baby miller... the great black hope

>>149878431
Kabayel would be a good fight if for no reason other than to dampen the spirits of Kurds in Europe who have a fit every time he wins something

>>149878142
Ibeabuchi would schizo out before the fight even happened. Tyson was a mental midget, Usyk would ko him late rounds if he hadn't already tried to get himself DQd first. Lewis could really struggle against smaller guys (watch his fight against Mercer). Holyfield would be absolutely fascinating, I'd probably pick Evander in a great fight

>>149878351
>Tyson
>late rounds
lmao, he either gets it early or he is getting knocked out by someone with cardio like usyk

can we all agree usyk now needs to beat kabayel?

>>149878652
who

>>149878558
Tyson at his peak was trained to go 15 rounds, I think Usyk isn't one to clinch him to death and he'll be more open in the championship rounds.
Even bums like Joshua and Fury were landing clean on him in the second half of their fights.

I'm glad he knows English better now his personality really shines through

>>149878652
B-b-but it has to be Joseph Parker because he supplies Turki with all of his coke

Usyk needs to fight his mandatory's in Parker & Kabayel
Then retire

>>149878722
If he beats Kabayel and Parker, and cleans up a few up-and-coming prospects and big name bums like Itauma and Wilder, I think in 2-3 years time he can hang up the gloves with nothing left to prove.
imo you can't be a true great without having a reign, and a guy with fewer than 30 fights in his career is not an all-timer by any stretch.

>>149875054
To make it more accurate to Dubious, more like someone with a 1 digit IQ fighting someone with a 3 digit IQ.

>>149875073
Disgusting nonce.

>>149876752
Excellent post.

>>149878351
Tyson got frustrated when he couldn't blast someone out early. A tricky southpaw like Usyk with an iron chin would be a nightmare for him.
I would honestly see Tyson quitting around Round 7 or 8 like Dubois.

Lewis is a better match up for Usyk, both of them would rekt each other like Holyfield and Bowe did.

>>149877141
God bless you, Oleksandr.

>>149873873 (OP)
Finally someone got the vid. I already thought that was a very dodgy KD. Looked like Dubois landed cleaner. Felt like Dubois was off balance. But he looked like he was shook when he got up. He fucking quit again didn't he? Only the KO seriously hurt dubois.

>>149878801
Retard.
He could retire now, but if he's doing as he said before and having another fight, it needs to be Parker, then retire. Parker also would have beaten Dubious, hence the duck.

>>149878936
Tyson only ever got frustrated by clinching.
Saying he'd take until the late rounds to knock Usyk out is me acknowledging that Usyk isn't easy to hit but I don't think he has an iron chin.
Dubois quit because he has no foot movement, no head movement, no heart and no chin - you can't say that about Tyson at his best.
>Lewis is a better match up for Usyk, both of them would rekt each other like Holyfield and Bowe did.
Lewis is a chinny bum whose reputation is flattered by beating washed up big names.
Would anybody be calling him a great if he didn't stop a 136 year old Mike Tyson?
And despite his weak era, he still retired like a bitch.

>>149879000
>Retard.
You don't need to sign your posts, mate.
>He could retire now
He could retire whenever he wants. But people pushing the "ZOMG he completed boxing!" shit don't know what they're talking about.

>>149878801
The sole reason the Klitschko's are considered ATG is their long reign. But they started in a strong division and ended in a very weak division. The HW division hasn't been this good since the 90s. And Usyk beat all the top dogs twice. I get what you're saying with the reign stuff. But he has been champ for 4 years now. If he beats Parker next year. Thats five years of him being the champ. I would be fine with that considering his age and his cruiserweight exploits

bummios is a disgrace

>>149879004
How are we over half a decade into Usyks heavyweight career and still acting like he doesnt have an iron chin lmao? hes taken flush shots from the hardest hitters in the division multiple times and not even been wobbled
>Would anybody be calling him a great if he didn't stop a 136 year old Mike Tyson?
holy shit you are retarded
other than Tyson, lennox beat Vitali (when lennox was years past has best), David Tua easily, Holyfield twice (first fight was a robbery), Ruddock, Bruno, Mercer, Morrison, Briggs etc. also avenged both his losses. ydksab

Is Froch right? Did Dubois quit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjARAYHvGTk

>>149879058
>they started in a strong division and ended in a very weak division
I don't think their division was ever particularly strong, but they were the best two guys there were and that's all you could ask of them.
Well, I would've liked to have seen Vitali knock out Wladimir but that was never on the cards tbf.
>The HW division hasn't been this good since the 90s
imo the last 20 years has been the weakest heavyweight division since the 1940s/50s, and there aren't even any drafts that you can blame.
>he has been champ for 4 years now. If he beats Parker next year. Thats five years of him being the champ
I still think an undisputed reign plus more 25 fights in his entire pro career (and more than 9 fights at heavyweight) would help, otherwise it reads like a women's boxing résumé where it's too easy/effortless to be hyped up as the greatest.
Best of this era, undoubtedly.
Amongst the best ever? I need to see more.

>>149879122
>hes taken flush shots from the hardest hitters in the division multiple times and not even been wobbled
He has been wobbled though, like the uppercut Fury landed in R6 of their first fight.
AJ made him back up too.
>lennox beat Vitali
Kek, stopped reading there, you clearly haven't watched the fight.

barrios and pacquaio agreed to bring it to draw for betting companies to rake big so that pacquaio can pay his debts

no way that shit was real + they were shwoing betting odds right before fight? yea okay thats totally real lmao

Why the fuck is anybody giving Jake Paul the time of day?

Who is allowing that cunt access to do face offs in the ring?

>>149878073
grim

>>149879162
shut up homo its good for boxing in the future
hes bringing youngins in

>>149879154
He quit, but probably because he'd been hit twice in succession. No real confidence or ability
Dubois problem is Warren in his ear
He needs to fight Jake Paul

Morning reminder that Pacquiao got robbed

>>149879194
He's an absolute clown
He's only fought one boxer in his prime and he couldn't even match Tommy Fury

>>149879004
He went the distance with a few top 10-20 guys in his prime and a couple of times was down on himself for not KOing them or having a close fight. He would do that whole "how would you rate yourself/how could cus rate that" and sometimes it was "eh i could have done better"

Tyson could have improved but he never did, which is why "le prime mike with cus" memes are almost pointless because it's all hypothetical. Tyson is still an ATG for sparking out 90% of people he was up against but that elite level with Lewis and Holyfield was something he just couldn't get done.

>>149879122
He took a good shot from Dubois just before he dropped him. Can't believe he stood and traded when everyone was saying not to do that.

>>149879157
to this day i will never fucking understand retards who get pissy about the lennox/klit fight, his eyebrow was literally hanging off his fucking face and lennox wasnt gonna do anything but continue to bash it with the jab until it actually came off. it makes the fury/wallin cut look passable by comparison. if you wanna get mad about lennox retiring after and not giving vitali his rematch, sure do that, but you cant discredit the win just because of your completely arbitrary rules
>>149879160
i dont really get how it would be possible for pac to be broke. his entire family are all famous celebrities in the Philippines im pretty sure and its not like he buys stupid shit like expensive chains his whole career like so many of the retarded black american boxers do. i just think pbc wants bummios to keep the belt because hes younger

>>149879154
>>149879154
no dubois is chinned now

the first kd looks like an equilibrium shot but i dont think so, his brain is mush by now

Usyk has AJ, Dubois and Fury's numbers.

He could fight each of them 10 times and he'd win every single time.

>>149879157
>I still think an undisputed reign plus more 25 fights in his entire pro career (and more than 9 fights at heavyweight) would help, otherwise it reads like a women's boxing résumé where it's too easy/effortless to be hyped up as the greatest.

I feel like that is unfair to his boxing record. A lot of guys go 15-0 without fighting anyone. Usyk turned pro relatively late. But he was undisputed cruiserchamp after 15 fights. He won the WBO title in his 10th fight. The type of fights also matter imo. Munguia has fought 40 times against nobody's before he had his first proper fight. If he can get to 10 fights at HW I would be okay with it.

>>149879154
He could have got up again but he would have been sat down quick. His corner threw in the towel anyway to protect him from himself.

Not really a quit imo.

Chisora did better than fury x 2 aj x2 and dubois x2
Think about that

>>149879222
>losing late rounds
>gassed and almost ktfo
>robbed

He should retire and flips should put him back in the senate and finally inside presidency.

How would an Usyk/Kabayel fight go down rn? everyone seems to think he'll beat Parker easily, but that Kabayel is a more dangerous opponent.

>>149878801
I mean Usyk will never have a "true" reign

Fighter activity is just different now, no champion fights 4 times a year let alone the 6 or 7 times a year top guys used to in the 40s and 50s.

I think about it in terms of 'generations' for Usyk. There's the generation before Usyk, his generation, and the next generation.

Strangely where Usyk is lacking is the old generation. He wasn't part of the group of fighters that ended the Klitschko/Povetkin/Haye/Chagaev/Pulev generation. Usyk's biggest old generation win is Chisora who never quite made the leap to top level contender.

Usyk's best showing is his current generation. Two wins each over AJ and Fury are great for him, clearly demonstrating he is the best of his era. I wish he'd been able to fight Wilder, Ruiz and Whyte to leave no doubt but other than that I have limited complaints here.

Usyks next generation wins are Dubois twice and Murat Gassiev. You'd really like to see him fight guys like Parker, Kabayel, and Wardley before he hangs them up but he's off to a good start.

>>149879272
>you cant discredit the win just because of your completely arbitrary rules
Boxing is the only sport that actively encourages this.
And Lewis, by promising the rematch and then choosing not to take it, admitted that he would never be able to beat Vitali Klitschko.
If John Ruiz knocked out Tyson in 2004 or 2005 people would argue that he has a better record than Lennox Lewis.

>>149879310
Usyk by close decision imo

>>149879301
jokic OWNS lesissy, now get back to your containment thread

no one knows what the fuck a kabayel is, stop talking about some irrelevant bum

>>149879327
>jokeitch
>1 pity everyone is injured ring

Come back when you finally reach the finals again.

>>149879154
>>149879274
Dubious was always a pretentious boxer. KOing AJ isnt much considering he got KTFO by a fat ass andy ruiz

how about usyk goes back to cruiser to fight opetaya?

>>149879321
>admitted that he would never be able to beat Vitali Klitschko
except he did when he tore his eyebrow off
>john ruiz
holy shit go back to heem, ruiz managed to lose to RJJ, only notable thing he ever did was barely beat Holyfield and robbing him in the rematch

>>149879282
>I feel like that is unfair to his boxing record
I know, but if you don't set a high bar it's unfair to the old-timers that get thrown into the dustbin of history just to hype up Current Thing.

>>149879319
Agree with you on the generations, it'll be interesting to see how we demarcate it all in 20 years time or so.
>I wish he'd been able to fight Wilder, Ruiz and Whyte to leave no doubt
>You'd really like to see him fight guys like Parker, Kabayel, and Wardley
That's the thing though, he still could and that's why I don't understand people talking like he's done everything possible and should retire as soon as possible, even though Usyk himself said "thirty-eight is the start".

>>149879372
How about Opetaia stops weight bullying and comes up to heavyweight

>>149879336
26/26

Beat Chisora and last fight beat Zhang

>>149879310
I feel like Kabayel needs to keep fighting though. Yea okay.. he got two good wins when he was the underdog. But he'll end up begin Hrgovic. Someone with a lot of talent but rarely fight at the highest level. When its time to step up they struggle. I have never really rated Dubois. He obviously got good power so he has a shot against anyone. But I don't think he's that good a boxer. But Dubois has fought at a much higher level than Kabayel or Hrgovic. Win/draw or lose it helps you progress.

>>149879373
>ruiz managed to lose to RJJ
Personally, I think Roy Jones would've beaten Lennox Lewis as well.

Usyk will fight Jake Paul (in MMA)

>>149879372
Usyk just needs to do money fights. No one knows who tf is that guy.

Usyk vs Fury 3 is the fight to get. He needs to KTFO that gypsy king

>>149879443
>Usyk just needs to do money fights.
jake paul then

>>149879460
We want to see Jake Paul KO AJ first

Also Deontay vs Paul

Fury won x2

Fury? Won twice.

>meanwhile in Ukraine

>>149879520

>joshua quit
>dubious quit
>quitting on the pajeets, straya and mothercanuckers
>quitting and leaving their cities for the immigrants

Now that the dust has settled it is safe to assume that the british are all quitters?

So....your reflections on last nights fight

>>149879911
Usyk is now 1-1 with Dubois.

>>149879968
low blow, dubussy got pounded twice by usyk

>>149880017
>low blow

Are your balls in your belly?

>>149879911
I really enjoyed it. I'm always buzzing after Usyk fights.

>pacquiao "all glory to God"
>usyk "Jesus helps me"


Why do we Christfags keep on winning lads?

>>149880059
>proceeds to stay down off of a jab

Fury beat Usyk 2 times but got horribly robbed by the biased Ukraine loving Saudis.

>>149880059
Did Usyk KO him so hard that Dubois rewinded the time 2 years?

>>149880256

>>149880256
This is your life. Sad.

>>149880256
Factual post.
>>149880274
Usyk is currently 1-1 with Dubois.

Its time to put some respect on Usyk's name. We're privileged to be watching an all time great.

>>149880394
We don't respect gift-decision merchants.

>>149880415
You need to accept the fact that your boy got beat fair and square. Twice.

>>149880439
Fury won twice.
Dubois won the first fight.
Chisora won.

Why isnt he moving up and fighting teofimo lopez?

>>149874410
>35 deleted posts in the last thread
All thanks to me

>>149880439
I think if he actually did accept that fact, he would probably off himself.
>>149880455
I think he's waiting for Junto before he goes any higher.

>>149879160
they show those betting odds in all boxing now, especially on pbc cards but i've seen them on espn cards too

>>149880454
>All lost
>Nonce cries
>>149878895

dubussy

"I beat him twice before and the world knows it." -TGK Tyson Fury

>>149880656
Extremely factual quote from the gypsy king
>>149880059
Still can’t get over him rolling about like a bad actor in the panto pretending this was a low blow, what on earth was that all about?

>>149874586
He quit like the brits quit on their country

>>149876754
his bastard son, eman bacosa is better, which afaik doesn't even have an amateur career and went straight to the pros probably due to lack of money.

>>149877034
I wish Barrios would've KO'd him, Pac cried everytime he got hit with a bodyshot. We respect the elderly too much in this world. I hate it when old people derail a younger person's career by refusing to step aside.

If they were the same weight, who would've won, Usyk or Mayweather?

>>149880656
>>149880797
>Lost
>Nonce cries
>>149878895

>>149880902
Dumb question, just like how P4P rankings are dumb

>>149877045
Parker deserves a shot. He did enough rebuilding his career. Maybe Kabayel. I would hate it if they do a prelim on who gets a shot against Usyk by doing Parker vs Kabayel.

>>149880902
Usyk

Mayweather is an ugly little man rabbit

Fundora has bad guy energy on him and didn't have the support of the crowd because everyone knows he's too big to 154. What's next for him? Maybe Bakram? I don't think Bakram cares enough about boxing though, he accepts payments to step aside.

>>149880876
Barrios too pussy to end Pacquiao career. Thurman had the mouth to do so but lack all the skills.

Now everyone in welter want a shot at Barrios belt after he showed how much of a pussy he is
Next to Daniel dubussy of course

>>149876778
I think you have to add that Loma faced tougher competition at lightweight than Usyk, even Usyk’s run at cruiserweight. Haney and Lopez were young, strong and p4p level at that time.

>>149880495
Junto is skipping to 126, just to play mind games, he has the bigger frame and would have the advantage. Inoue did it before when he was younger, he skipped a weight class or something.

>>149880917
It's a genius question.

>>149880902
Mayweather.

>>149879440
Yes I will pay money to watch usyk kill jake paul and I mean kill

>>149878931
This is a weird list because some of the beaten champions are not even heavyweights. A normie would look and thought Roy Jones is the greatest heavyweight.

>>149878948
Yeah this is more like it.

You now remember when Tyson Fury got dropped by a 0-0 MMA fighter and had to scrape a razor thin decision win.

>>149880911
No response to the fake low blow? Typical usoyk tranny slurper.

>gladiator shorts

Why tf would you wear them when they sway easily when you got hit making judges think you were indeed hit

Add that it has a bad track record in huge fights

Why did Usyk only fight guys from the uk besides chazz at hw?

>>149878948
wrong count

>>149881120
>thinking you won by "winning" 0:32 of a 36 min fight
>winning 0:21 of a 36 min fight

Fucking kek

>>149881282
other fighters don't sell out stadiums

Why does 190 hold such a strong grudge against Usyk anyway?

>>149881348
he defeated his hero

>>149881338
We're not able to post 36 minute mp4s here.

Reminder, Fury, with his erudite inclination, let Usoyk mop up the division, for him to come and finish Asterisksandr once and for all, and to retire as the undisputed goat.

>>149878931
REAL DEAL

>>149881495
>>149881527
>Loses twice
>Ducks every top contender
>Has what little of his record remains thrashed by others and exposed
>Nonce cries
>>149878895

>>149881717
You'll see. Furyans believe in hope, in light. You believe in the darkness, and wallow in hate. Even though you escaped the shit pit of India, shit is still in your heart.

>>149881717
Go and find the Corey you chopped off son

>>149881717
Gonedhi.

>>149881846
>>149881848
>>149881871
>Nonce cries harder
>Thinks everyone is one person
>Spams off topic
>Everyone he's supported still lost to Usyk

>>149880985
>What's next for him?
Harvard i think
>Maybe Bakram? I don't think Bakram cares enough about boxing though, he accepts payments to step aside.
Keith Thurman is more likely. Bakhram should go to Turki if he wants a unification

>>149881902
Your Corey’s gone son, you’ve chopped it off

>>149881936
>Harvard i think
does this mean he's retiring from pro boxing?

Muhammed Ali got dropped by a 185 pound Henry Cooper
Usyk is slapping around 250+ pound black bulls on the regular

>>149881902
This is the nonce's whole life, don't deprive him of what little he has.
Though yes, Fury, Dubois, Joshua, and Chisora all lost, and Fury's record is shit.
Parker > Dubois
Joshua > Fury

>>149881902
>thinks everyone is one person
You accuse everyone who winds you up of being this “nonce. Try a bit of self awareness

>>149881955
Fury beat poosyk twice howeveralthoughbeit

>>149881902
>>149881955
Samefag Gonedhi.

>>149881955
You know what, yeah, I think I'll leave him to this sad existence.

Gonedhi talking to himself like a complete freak.

>>149881955
Then why did Usoyk have to fight Dubois as an eliminator before HE was allowed to face Tyson again?

>>149874064
Please don't tell me my wife Sydney had Manny's BPC

>>149881955
Truth NUKE

>>149880985
Fundora got this fake bitch energy about him. I need someone to chop down that twig

GOD BLESS YOU OLEKSANDR

>>149880902
Usyk would kill Mayweather that's a fact. Reminder Mayweather got his ass kicked by de la hoya

>>149876752
As a pac fanboy I think he threw the fight in the championship rounds. Barrios finally woke up and was really roughing up Manny. Also sad to see Freddie barely functional and couldn't get much words out in the corner. Two old people that need to retire in young man's sport.

>>149882572
I think Barrios had a good round 10 but he didn't win 11 or 12. Manny deserved the decision. As for young mans sport, that doesn't mean shit if you can't put the old guy away.
Barrios lost to a guy pushing 47. You can save the cliches about age. They mean dick.

>>149882572
Usyk is 38, beat a guy over a decade younger with ease. The age thing is such a midwit filter.

>>149882719
>>149882774
t. Boomers

>>149882782
i'm a zoomer/millenial cusper. try again puto

Frank Warren should give Usyk his Bentley

Mental how Usyk's most difficult heavyweight fight was Joshua

>>149883298
According to Usyk his most difficult heavyweight opponent was Chisora

>>149883298
kekthony has some underrated boxing skills, plus he's big and much faster than dubois. his only flaws are a weak chin and weak heart which typifies UK bums. People calling Usyk the best ever need to take a step back and realize his best wins are literally against UK domestic level heavyweights.
AJ in his prime went life and death with the cadaver of Klitschko. Wasn't he like 43 in that fight?
tyson fury is a fat drunk alcoholic and Usyk couldn't stop him. The rematch was totally boring shit. Tony Bellpoo? That guy is trash. Chisora is a walking punching bag that's even slower than Dubois.
Its a seriously trash era. Usyk is good but he couldn't beat a prime Holyfield, Jack Dempsey would maul him. Joe Louis would probably stop him. Imagine him trying that tap tap shit against Foreman walking him down. He's not faced anything like that in this era cuz its all soft UK bullshit.
I'll debate it with anyone here.

>>149883312
Delboy is a walking punching bag. I like the guy but the only thing that gets pushed is Usyk's cardio because it's impossible to knock him out.

He seemed a lot more concerned fighting AJ than any of the others imo.

>>149883298
Tbf id argue AJ's power is 2nd only to Wilder. He slumped Ngannou when Fury couldn't drop him with elbows and headbutts.

>>149883365
Completely agree. Usyk is a great champion in a weak era of domestic level talent and mental midgets.

>>149883388
Its better than Wilders, he's can drop you with rights, left hooks, uppercuts. Wilder needs you to stand right in front of him like a heavy bag so he can wind up his dumbass right hand. Which desu was overrated as fuck. Notice it doesn't hurt anyone anymore once he got off the PBC chitlin circuit.

>>149882774
>Comparing 38 to 46
That's a big difference. Mario let Pac control the pace until the end of the round. He never did any offense that wasn't countering until the late rounds.
>>149883365
>People calling Usyk the best ever need to take a step back and realize his best wins are literally against UK domestic level heavyweights.
I'm not going to blame Usyk for the lack of quality opponents. Generally, you also had elite American HWs that use to fill up, but most of them are either playing football or basketball instead. Those who aren't, are too short to be HW.
What does he have currently? One who he already beat at CW in Micheal Hunter and prospect who hasn't fought anyone that would be deem a Gatekeeper/Contender. Till America gets their shit together, it's going to be slim pickins.

So why has Fury ducked AJ his entire career if he claims to be so superior?

Man this is just harsh, especially after headlining Bumlang

>>149883765
I think he's scared of the outcome in case he loses. Losing to Usyk is not nearly as bad as losing to AJ

>>149883841
Turki is a certified bitch. Zoo and Fundora went toe to toe just the round before. Zoo got up from the floor and kept fighting whereas Dubois quit on the mat. Fuck Turki I hope his top prospect Shitraz gets knocked the fuck out soon

>>149883848
Damn the Gypsy Queen is scared

>>149883734
its not that much of a difference if you take care of your body. It helps when your opponents are both slow as fuck. speed is the most important attribute in boxing. Barrios is slow as shit, with slow feet. Dubois is the same. If you have the speed edge you can beat anyone even if they're "bigger" or whatever.

As for American boxing in heavyweight, yeah it sucks. That's why Usyks only real options are fighting in the UK but I went over this in the previous post. UK boxing has hype and a shitload of pageantry and atmosphere but the boxes are mediocre and soft. Always have been always wll be with very few exceptions. (Froch, Calzaghe)

>>149883388
Don't know, Zhang has some insane power, and even Bakole was KOing people with glancing shots. It's kind of a shame that they put Bakole on a 50 hour flight as a late replacement. I hope he bounces back from that, but I don't think anyone holds it against him.

>>149884040
Cazzie take. If that was true then Khan would've been an ATG. In the end skill reigns supreme in boxing, that's why a fat Toney was piecing up guys half his age as well. Boxing is all about skill, it's not about strength nor dexterity.

>>149883841
Turki seems still salty about Zoo not willing to bend the knee.
>>149883765
He's a carny. He says a lot of things that are outlandish.

>>149884058
>I hope he bounces back from that, but I don't think anyone holds it against him.
dude needs to fix his diet first so he can box more than 5 rounds

>>149883841
>He deleted the tweet
KWAB

HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>149884175
He beat the piss out off small baby. And he's a fit guy. Bakoles style works with his build. That's a hallmark of a great fighter.

>>149882491
>I need someone to chop down that twig
Already happen

>>149874949
KEK
RATTLED

>>149884122
Khan overachieved because of his speed but was a total brainlet and never developed beyond jumping in and throwing flurries. If he was average speed, or slow, he would've never made it out of the amateurs.

British boxers are all BUMS!

"Fury nearly killed me." -Oleksandr Usyk

>>149884334
Why did Mayweather duck Khan then.

>>149884380
>tf
>tp

>>149884175
no salads in New Jersey where he lives unfortunately, only veal parm. And yes we claim Big Bang

>>149884519

bruh look at this dood

>>149879172
Top Rank is done
Queensbury and Matchroom have had all their fighters poached by Turki
PBC had their quarterly show
Probox seems to have given up

See you in September

>>149883765
AJ beat the shit out of Fury in sparring a long time ago, before either were known. Think AJ was still amateur. He's been avoiding AJ ever since.

>>149884865
I must say, the pbc card overall, beat Turkis card by miles. I started watching when this mexibum got pieced up by Russell. But that was a real war from the Mexicans side. The whole bam card was a fluke.

>barrios
>6 ft

>pacman
>5'5


When will tallfags learn? A 6 feet cant beat a short senior citizen?

At the same time a rather short cruiserweight is beating up near 7 footers in the heavyweight division.

Is height a meme unless you play niggerball? And being able to match with roasties on bumble

>>149885089
Edmonson getting robbed by the Pookrainian bean pole soured an already mediocre card.

>>149884674
What a gentleman, looking after Usyk's belt for a while.
>>149884640
How dare you replace professional kneeler Dubious.
>>149884947
Feary will fight him if AJ is hit by a bus.

>>149874064
There was a better photo where sydney sweeney was eye fucking pacquiao lol.

>>149884947
supposedly turki wants to make aj vs queen next year

inogay got dropped by a literal cab driver, not even a by one of those meme champion in any sense, like interims, regular, silver, international, etc.


he lost to a literal bum who drives cab for a living.

>>149880985
I want to see Manny vs Fundora just for the lols

5'5 vs 6'6
for the history!!!!

is there any point in a trilogy when fury won the first two fights?

>>149885683
>he lost to a literal bum who drives cab for a living
by "lost" you mean "got up and KO'd the guy?"

Parker deserves the fight more, but Agit is more dangerous for Usyk.
What do you think?

>>149885951
parker lost to AJ and Whyte, scraped a win over Hughie Fury and Jack Massey and now people are saying he's good because he beat an obese bakole fighting on 2 days after an 18 hour flight

>>149885951
I agree.
I would personally prefer to see Usyk vs Kabayel because Parker is kind of boring to watch. And I don't think he has that special factor to beat Usyk.
Kabayel has his body shots and knocks people out, it would be more fun.

But Parker is way more likely to be next. I think it's either him or Fury.

also nobody wants to see poory fight usyk again
that fight would be an utter disgrace
literally it would be better if he fought jake paul

>>149885951
I think usyk should retire before father time humbles him

>>149885892
getting dropped by a UBER DRIVER is an L

no matter the outcome lol

that means every uber driver i rode with has a chance of knocking out p4p #3 inogay HAHAHA

>>149885951
How about he fights both? After those theres not really another proven contender left and he can retire

>Matchroom have no UK or US shows scheduled

>Top Rank have no shows scheduled after Zayas next week and need a new TV deal

>PBC have no shows scheduled

>Golden Boy have no shows scheduled

>Boxxer have no shows scheduled and need a new TV deal

Its Turkis sport now

>>149886325
Father Frank saves the day again!

>>149886198
he doesnt need to prove shit with parker or kabayel, if he does fight them it would be just an extra. im sure that if he beats both then you will still have fuckers suddenly claiming that he will need to fight itauma, torrez, okolie, etc etc

im not against the fights with parker and kabayel assuming those two till be his last fights, but thinking they are meaningful fights thats another thing

>>149885891
>Please don't beat Fury up in front of the world again

>>149886394
yeah, it is just a victory lap. so far Usyk is not slowing down though, so he can probably do two more fights

>>149886394
Think about it like this: If he fights Kabayel and Parker within the next 12 months there will be nobody else who has accomplished enough to be worth fighting who he hasnt already beaten.

Guys like itauma, Torrez, okolie would have to beat 4 top contenders in the next 12 months to be worth it, and none of them are going to be active enough to do that.

Usyk can keep fighting these less-tested guys with thin resumes after those 12 months, but the proven contender well will be dry. Only contender who could accomplish enough is Fabio Wardley but promoters all seem to hate him so I dont think he'll get a shot at Usyk

>>149886516
according to https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings itauma, okolie, hunter and ajagba are up there with fabio, kabayel and parker ( current mandatory for usyk )
so they can easily score just two wins to be shilled, after all thas what happened with dubois and kabayel

like lets say that okolie beats hunter and ajagba or just hunter that would make him the #1 guy by the wbc and wba, the list of potential guys for usyk to beat will never end until he decides to retire

>>149886516
Nah the messycan is right. Itauma will definitely be hyped up as it gives him more time and Usyk will be 40

>>149886612
Mandatories dont really matter to turki/usyk. They already dropped the IBF belt last year. They'll just drop them again if Turki doesnt like the opponent or if usyk isnt bothered

>>149886325
>Matchroom have no UK or US shows scheduled
are Bam

>>149886727
Anon...that fight was yesterday

If Usyk was black and American.. You can 100% guarantee every nigcel and white American would be claiming he is the new breed of HW and the best to ever do it.

>>149886966
It would just be bomb skwaaaaaaad part 2 but worse because he's legit

>>149886992
I remember the breakdowns those American boxing channels had after fury beat wilder in the 2nd fight.. they literally gaslit wilder into believing all those eggweight/posioning/breland traitor conspiracies..

mike tyson is , one of the most over rated boxers ever fought cab driving bums and quit against holyfield but is always brought up in goat boxing discussions

what does dont push the horses mean

>>149887221
an horse gets spooked if you push it

>>149887221
>>149887253
I think it was more talking about his team gearing Dubois up. If the horse is willing to go already, don't keep pushing it, because otherwise when things get rough and you do need them to go, they won't, and their confidence will be lost.

>>149879194
He's absolutely not. He's putting on freakshows. Nobody is sticking around for real boxing after they see a Jake Paul exhibition bout with an ancient ex ufc fighter who's clearly been paid off to pull punches. Nobody is falling in love with boxing cos of that dork. But I admire your positivity.

>>149881282
Who else is there? Parker should have probably gotten a shot before Dubois this time around. But Dubois pissed Usyk off and Usky probably didn't like all the low blow narrative shit. So he wanted to right this wrong. Which is why Dubois got the shot before Parker.

Kabayel has two good wins. But hasn't fought a top 5 guy yet. Imo he needs to fight one of the top 5 guys or a big name. AJ, Fury, Dubois, Parker, Hrgovic.

Only just now watching the fights, and I have to say thank you to the anons who post their scores during the fights, helps with following along. Also, TOTAL BONGSA DEATH !

>>149887221
Don't rush things

Tfw i still have the bjs doubters compilation i've not dropped yet. doubt i ever will desu.

Fury. GOAT.

Luke Fury Corey

thread theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11rmq8C3YSE

Ukrainians are BLACK.

GODsyk
GODford
GODnoue

An horse knocked out Usyk.

An horse is p4p number 1

Floyd needs to come out of retirement and beat Barrios for the WBC Champion. Pacquiao has a better chance of beating Rolly for the WBA belt than a rematch vs Barrios. Then they can have Mayweather Pacquiao 2 as a unification bout.

>>149887014
Wilder 100% believed that shit kek

>>149875797
CIA dark money can change a lot of minds. For me, it is absolutely no coincidence that just as Trump continues military aid for Ukraine, Usyk wins a fight against a man he was beaten by before. The CIA was given the go ahead, and former USAID agents got to work prepping the world for another resurgence in Ukrainian propaganda.

usyk had wally level corner work... that first knockdown was so kino....

>>149887573
That horse's name?

Tyson Fury.

>>149887556
Crawford will get exposed by cantnelo and in the biggest cantnelo hater

Best day for me was when Bvol destroyed that fugly spic

>>149887313
I actually think its a really interesting question. I agree Kabayel needs a top 5 win before facing Usyk, but who are the top 5 fighters right now?

Usyk and Fury are a given, but who are the other 3? Dubois coming off his 3rd KO loss? AJ coming off his 4th loss? Hrgovic coming off the quit against Dubois? Parker with his losses to Joyce, AJ, and Whyte?

It's not about who got koed by who. It's about legacy. Would you rather face a 7'1 giant, or a hyperactive, 6'2 manlet? I'd ko usoyk while I'm ordering a kebab.

>>149888612
Didn't you have to flee the country for touching your niece?

>>149888612
the only thing you can ko is that kebab you fatso

Just watched a Usyk interview. He said Chisora was the hardest hitter he has faced.

>>149888210
If you've been paying attention to Canelo he's been extremely lukewarm as a fighter lately.
If Crawford wants to win and isn't just showing up for a payday, he could make it a tough fight for him. I'm not convinced Crawford is really going to show up for it though. I think he's just cashing out and I don't really blame him. But people are seriously underestimating him despite the crazy weight jump. I expect it to be more of a sparring match than anything honestly based off both guys last fights. Crawford's also been out of the ring for a while. Canelo went the distance with Bumlanga though...it's like he's not even trying. It's just

>>149887221
dont listen to these bong idiots. it means a horse will go above and beyond its capabilities, even if it means dying. a mule is the total opposite btw.

t.cowboy

>>149887972
…named the horse Bojangles.

>>149886356
Miss us with that bongslop

>>149883841
Zoo’s trainer is a real Kenny Porter, though

You now remember Tim Tszyu

You now remember Wallace and Gromit: Curse of the Were-Rabbit

>>149878376
That's literally how you learn a language.

>https://www.boxingscene.com/articles/gilberto-ramirez-undergoes-surgery-to-repair-shoulder-injury

what a bitch, just admit you dont wanna fight opetia

Where do we rate Usyk? He's great but the competition is shit. Dubois is a borderline bum in many eras.

>>149878687
But enough about Dubois

>>149889779
We can only rate him off his legitimate wins:

>1 win against Dubois (lost the first fight)
>2 wins against GayJ
>Chazz Witherspoon

That's pretty lackluster when you compare it to his losses to Fury twice, Chisora and the first fight against Dubois.

>>149888612
And there's the respect

>checks boxrec
All that diet coke isn't doing good for your reading capacity lardmuffin
God Bless Usyk and more importantly God Bless /box/

>>149889810
What a terrible cope, here's your (You)

>>149888612
Fat nonce couldn't KO his way out of a wet paper bag

august looking grim for boxing, the only card worth a shit is https://www.boxingscene.com/events/moses-itauma-vs-dillian-whyte

thankfully sep is back to bsns

Crawfraud ducks Fundora again. Nobody asks this bum for a WWE fight against Canelo.

>>149890043
We ain't muhfuggin Andy ruiz up in dis bitch finna be eatin lean sometimes chu know what I'm saying

>>149890043
This is such a loaded July that I can forgive it. First half of the year felt really weak to me. Hopefully the rest of the year can sustain the momentum

>>149887383
Post it coward.

>>149887221
One kick from a horse's back legs and it can turn you into a cripple. Don't fuck with horses.

Who did Crawfraud and Shakwab beat?

>>149886356
>Fail brothers

>>149890091
>that pic
but what about umas?
btw I think usyk already confirmed his #1 p4p for the rest of the year, the only outcome that could change that is crawford beating cinnamon but if uysk fights again in december and wins then I would still keep usyk

>>149890120
> but what about umas?
>dodge gachas like the plague for years
>fuck it i'll try out this one, I like training games
>been playing non-stop for like three days straight

Do you think Usyk should fight Chisora again?

>>149890148
no, I reckon he should retire before time takes its toll

>>149890148
There's bigger fish to fry. Let Chisora hold his spot as the gatekeeper of heavyweight as long as he's willing. Usyk already passed that gate fine the first time. Still one of his toughest fights at heavy, but beyond the first few rounds Chisora couldn't do much of anything so it was pretty easy to score.

>>149890148
imagine the bongs if the last two fights of usyk are chisora and itauma, mind you that chisora is the highest rated guy by the ibf and itauma is #1 by the wbo

total bong ded

>>149890127
as long as you dont spend shekels it should be fine

>>149890179
Not going to spend more than I would on a regular game. I've already put enough time in it to warrant the price I'd pay for an indie, but I was surprised by how well designed and generous it was for a free game.

Imagine that same training style of game where you're a boxing trainer, fighters from different weight classes, styles and regions where you can train up with a bunch of different characters, that then would retire and become trainers themselves to pass on their skills, etc. Fighters would form rivalries/friendships in the vein of Ippo/Ashita no Joe.

How come someone like Scull, who has non-elite boxing fundamentals, schools Canelo?

>>149890222
>but I was surprised by how well designed and generous it was for a free game.
the japs behind uma truly love the franchise, thats why almost all of the uma media is high quality

>Imagine that same training style of game where you're a boxing trainer, fighters from different weight classes, styles and regions where you can train up with a bunch of different characters, that then would retire and become trainers themselves to pass on their skills, etc. Fighters would form rivalries/friendships in the vein of Ippo/Ashita no Joe.

send that shit to turki lel, the umas are making literally billions in profit, if that boxing clone were to get just a fraction of that I would consider it success, the only downside is that the guys would either look like twinks or total ogres

>>149890285
>send that shit to turki lel, the umas are making literally billions in profit, if that boxing clone were to get just a fraction of that I would consider it success, the only downside is that the guys would either look like twinks or total ogres
That's the problem, it'd be a hard sell as a gacha game if you're collecting buff fighter guys, so you'd have to lean in on the coolness aspect + have the fights be very entertaining or perhaps even interactive rather than just watching it play out. There are similar games like that that exist for things like Dragonball that have remained popular. Uma also leans heavy into the card collecting aspect which are way more important than the horses themselves. Lots of potential with that, but that type of thing goes all the way back to fomo over collecting baseball cards if you think about it.


A few similar boxing type sims like that. Punch Club, an indie game. Boxing Story, a japanese indie mobile game but they're much simpler in scope and not live service/free to play. Only way I could see it feasibly work is if Turki struck a deal with Morikawa to officially license an Ippo Musume clone. But CyGames put a lot of polish into this one and are devious. I'll try and make an indie clone, a gacha is way beyond my scope. That being said...you could just have hot anime girls boxing, this is a thought. Certainly beats the GWOAT

>>149890148
Usyk would give Chisora some serious brain damage on top of the CTE he already has. I wanted Usyk to retire after Fury 1, but 25-0 after beating up Parker would look aesthetic.

>>149890148
Feed Dubois to Chisora

Honestly where does British boxing go from here? We've had our prospects cleaned out from almost every division now

>>149890774
>where does British boxing go from here?
York Hall

>>149887115
Yeah but have you seen his KO compilations on YouTube though?

>>149890095
Crawfish beat some car crash survivor who hasn't fought since, I think. Clearly, this is enough to be p4p #1 because he "looks good on the eye test" or something.

>>149887440
heh

>>149873873 (OP)
Why does Dubois always take the knee and give up so easily?

Usyk may have beaten multiple opponents that Fury has ducked and then done a rematch just to beat them again, but Fury will always have his victory over THE Dylan Whyte.

>>149891430
he's about to have that part of his legacy called into question too when Whyte gets knocked out by a guy who's been a pro boxer for only two years

Just want to see Chisora Vs Zhang

Dillian Whyte beat Joshua Parker.

>>149891485
That was seven years ago. Parker was like 26 years old and still a developing fighter. Parker coming off wins against Zhang and Bakole would destroy Whyte now.

This your guy /box/poofs?

?

>>149891688
This the Gollum look alike contest?

Dubois was winning up until he was losing.

Looking good Fivey, keep it up champ!

>>149880876
> derail a younger person's career
Nah. Pacquiao is Barrios' biggest payday and claim to fame. Now the world knows more about Barrios than it does about Crawford.

100 fiveys swarming a normal-sized man is a terrifying prospect.

BREAKING: Jew Finds Coin

Usyk is British. A packed Wembley stadium was chanting for him over Dubious because he's the king of British boxing.

>>149891837
Just throw a Guinness in as bait

>>149891845
The king of British boxing lost to Del Boy?

>>149891737
is this ai?

Ball is built different. Levels.

>>149891860
No it’s really Fivey

>>149891870
bam needs to fight this guy

>>149891858
Usyks resume is defeating the best British heavyweights lad. King Charles kneels to Usyk and that's just a fact.

>>149891889
Watch the Chisora fight with commentary off

>>149891737
>>149891870
holy shit Sam Goodman is FUCKED
>>149890148
Chisora is a fun watch but there no way in hell he should be getting a title shot. if hes serious about wanting one last run for the belt, he should take on either Ajagbe or Sanchez for the number 1 IBF spot, the winner essentially guarantees themselves a title shot once the IBF orders a defence. I wouldnt pick him to win either of those fights but theyre much more winnable fights for him compared to guys like Itauma or Zhang

>>149891865
yeah, he's built like a 5'2 midget
I know he's the only British champ left, but it feels desperate to slurp this guy of all people

>>149891944
>tf
>tp
Why even comment when you’re POLISH!?

No 1 pfp in Poland
Anyone ever heard of him?

>>149891929
Usyk vs Chisora 2 is a dumb mismatch, but it would be kind of funny as Chisora's retirement fight (I think he said he's gonna retire after the next one?)
at least he did more to deserve another shot than Fury

>>149891971
>lost to Lawrence Okolie
Kek!

>>149891976
Keep your trap shut no one wants to hear opinions from you. Nation of plumbers.

>>149891971
no need to get mad, we have so much in common. we have the same number of world champions who aren't 5'2 lmao
although if this Cieślak guy gets elevated from interim, we will have one more...

>>149891993
Your best boxer lost to Lawrence Okolie. Don’t you have strawberries to pick?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSCevVvbd3Y

Kabayel explaining where Dubois went wrong, and declaring he wants to fight Usyk. How do you think a fight between them would go down?

>>149878142
usyk beats all 4 of them
But Holyfield would be by far his toughest fight.

Reminder that the Irish are bums

Don’t come at Britain if you aren’t prepared to have your country’s boxrec looked up.

>>149892058
I think he's the most interesting fight for Usyk. Parker is competent, but I don't think he excels in that elite way, and he rarely stops people.

OHHHH TOOOMMMYYY OOOOOO TOOOOOOOLLLLLL

>>149892177
Shut the fuck up about boxing until one of your fighters headlines a PPV of any note

Reminder that Ushit ducked Parker to fight a guy he had already KO’d.

Our C level fighters like Chisora sell out stadiums. This is the pulling power of Britain.

>Uysk calls his KO punch "The Ivan"
Kino pure kino

>>149892222
Quads confirm!

>>149892231
Aren’t those the people he ran away from?
Also since Krassyuk has left his team can’t he go fight on the frontlines now?

Ushit is trying to fight Jake Paul, a Disney star middleweight.
Imagine the shit GK would get if he tried to do that.

>>149892238
Lots of Ukrainians are called Ivan too

>>149892247
I imagine he'd forget to train and get a split decision like he did against Ngannou

>>149892258
Well they are Russian off shoots

>>149892118
Lennox is a far harder matchup than Holyfield would be, hes probably the only heavyweight other than Holmes in history who has a decidedly jab than usyk

>>149892261
Ngannou was a 290lb MMA HW champion with the element of surprise.
Jew Paul isn’t York Hall level.

>>149892263
Uysk is Crimean, he's more Russian than Ukrainian. Russia was his first language.

>>149892265
>hes probably the only heavyweight other than Holmes in history who has a decidedly jab than usyk
>decidedly
Mate shut the fuck and get off the Guinness. Your little head can’t handle much booze.

>>149892272
There was a concerted effort in the Cold War to get as many Olympic gold medals as possible, this created the most hardcore schools and systems to try and beat the USA and establish communism as the dominant 20th century ideology. Usyk is a by product of that system that spanned into the modern day. It’s a shame all we have here as trainers are dads, uncles and glorified pad holders.

I will post my training footage here soon to mog Fivey into oblivion

>>149892269
So how did AJ fold him like a deck chair in two rounds?

>>149892278
and you call other people ESL lol

>>149892318
At least my post is decipherable poof. What the fuck were you even trying to say?

https://x.com/JoshTaylorBoxer/status/1947270541238210689

Josh Taylor says he's retiring

>>149892340
You lost.

Tim Tszyu gave up his warrior card on Saturday. I no longer want to hear him talk about how he'll leave it all in the ring or how he's a warrior. He quit. Guess no rematch with Murt.

Bumkole knocked Ushit out in training and he lost to Parker, this is why Ushit ducked Parker to fight Dubois.

>>149892354
I didn't know his Excellency Turki was a /box/ regular.

>>149892324
decidedly
/dJˈsʌJdJdli/
adverb
1.
undoubtedly; undeniably.
"he looked decidedly uncomfortable"

in other words, lennox's jab was the only heavyweight jab in history which was undoubtedly better than Usyks, along with Larry Holmes, in my opinion.
>>149892336
>>149892340
great career despite recent disappointments. i wish he never left mcguigan

>>149892367
>he was probably the only heavyweight in history who had a undoubtedly jab than Usyk
Retard alert

>>149879154
The second knockdown he had his mouthpiece punched out so he got hit with real power. I think DD has bad recuperative ability.

>>149892387
He led with his head the whole fight which doubles the impact. He was already rocked before the knockdowns.

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>>149892383
>>149892383