Thread 149881373

the joyful 3rd edition

>Current and upcoming races
05.07 - 27.07 Tour de France 2.UWT
21.07 Clàssica Terres de l'Ebre 1.1
25.07 Prueba Villafranca - Ordiziako Klasika 1.1
26.07 - 03.08 Tour de France Femmes avec Zwift 2.WWT
6.07 - 30.07 Ethias-Tour de Wallonie 2.Pro
27.07 Vuelta a Castilla y Leon 1.1
02.08 Donostia San Sebastian Klasikoa 1.UWT
04.08 - 10.08 Tour de Pologne 2.UWT
05.08 - 09.08 Vuelta a Burgos 2.Pro
06.08 - 08.08 Tour de l'Ain 2.1 M
06.08 - 10.08 Trans-Himalaya Cycling Race 2.1
06.08 - 17.08 Volta a Portugal em Bicicleta 2.1
07.08 - 10.08 Arctic Race of Norway 2.Pro
12.08 - 14.08 Tour de Pologne Women 2.1 WE
12.08 - 16.08 PostNord Tour of Denmark 2.Pro
14.08 - 17.08 Czech Tour 2.1
15.08 - 17.08 Tour de Romandie Féminin 2.WWT
15.08 Grote Prijs Yvonne Reynders 1.1 WE
15.08 Circuit Franco-Belge 1.Pro
17.08 La Polynormande 1.1
17.08 ADAC Cyclassics 1.UWT
19.08 - 22.08 Tour du Limousin-Périgord - Nouvelle Aquitaine 2.1
20.08 - 24.08 Lidl Deutschland Tour 2.Pro
20.08 - 24.08 Renewi Tour 2.UWT
21.08 GP Lucien Van Impe 1.1 WE
23.08 - 14.09 La Vuelta Ciclista a España 2.UWT
26.08 - 29.08 Tour Poitou - Charentes en Nouvelle Aquitaine 2.1
27.08 Muur Classic Geraardsbergen 1.1
28.08 Kreiz Breizh Elites Féminin 1.1 WE
30.08 Classic Lorient Agglomération - CERATIZIT 1.WWT
31.08 Bretagne Classic - Ouest-France 1.UWT

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Previous thread:
>>149856003

B E L G I U M

>>149878498
lol

The Coward Widar also won today

5 etappes for the good guys

>>149881463
i sincerely hope he gets lynched by a group of 190cm dutch men. he's a gnome of a human and deserves to be beaten to death with a cane

>>149881568
>190 cm
>men
???

>>149881439
corr

The jumbos were really naive not forcing Wellens to ride because "he wasn't allowed to" I mean he was in the breakaway of course he'll ride if he has to

>>149881432
the danes are mentally losing it

I did my first long route in over 6 months and for some reason the only thing that went through my head in every climb was "Fuck my stupid chud life".

Also I had to use a 26'' bike instead of a 29'' and my thighs nearly exploded

>>149881701
did you try pedaling harder

>>149881671
They did not want to expose themselves to accusations of hypocrisy, considering Simon Yates had done the same on the stage he won.

Hey Berts, I won today
Buy Bianchi.

>>149881432
>I love the Pogacar revisionism. His results until his last season before he joined UAE were mediocre at best.
>Did you ever consider that Vingegaards development was not a big shock to Danish people considering he has been a known talent for a decade?
industrial grade cope. Pog - won Tour de l'Avenir at 20. Fish - 66th at Tour de l'Avenir at 22

>>149881701
>channeling incel rage into watts
the Remco strategy

>>149881439
whomst?

>>149881432
I don't think there is any other country as unpleasantly nationalistic about their riders as Denmark. There's just no self awareness, and it appears to be an almost universal feature among Danish cycling "fans"

>>149881753
Why would you say that while riding a De Rosa?

43.96 km/h so far for 2389 km ridden.

What's the fastest TdF ever?

>>149881439
cute

>>149881768
>EPOgashart
>started roiding as a teen
>VinHGHeshart
>only started roiding in early 20s
ftfy

>>149881817
I was a meme, ya dip. :)

>>149881768
Considering fish had done absolutely nothing of note in cycling until his 24th birthday, until massively skyrocketing into prominence when Visma needed another GC-contender, them trying to put the focus on Pogacar's junior results is just deflection.

>>149881836
who chuted? didn’t watch today was too busy surviving napoli

>>149881853
Suddenly*

wellens just smarter than the rest of the break

>>149881853
what method of doping would they even use today? Keep in mind they have blood passports so can't give blood or EPO.

Is it all in the recovery cocktails? What drug or method would they give to raise Pogi 5% higher than everyone else, undetectably?

>>149881701
>26" bike

>>149881796
Katarzyna NIEWIADOMA PHINNEY

>>149881812
Belgian fans are way worse. They are literally out of control and should be kept in cages at the roadside if you ask me

>>149881883
mitochondrial transplants and Aicar

Alaphallippe actually won the stage
Give it time

>>149881883
pog as the best natural rider doesn't need to dope. inferior riders need to dope, liek conti level guys. the good oens just train up to their capacity. it just so happens that pog was undertrained by bald fraud and now he is better trained.

>>149881883
sea worms blood

>Designer molecules using unrecognizable epitopes, fully immunocompatable
>undetectable synthetic hemoglobin analogs
>recombinant 2,3-BPG.
>lactate shuttle vans
>cardiomyocyte gene therapy (adenovirus vector...ever wonder why these guys always have colds?)
>AI-programmed collagen formulation for optimum tendon elastic modulus
>pulmonary "deshunting" to increase alveolar ventilation and gas exchange
>on the fly blood rheology optimization (third spaced component reservoirs with real time thromboelastography and dosage via voltage controlled lymphovenous valves)
>Van Eck phreaking continuous heart rhythm analysis and optimization
>Nanomanufacturing of carbon frames for piezoelectric "nanomotoring"
>Implanted CN9/CN10 neuromodulators for heart rate control and carotid body baroreceptor decoupling
>Allosteric enzymatic "supercharging" of the electron transport chain via synthetic mitochondrial infusion
>genetic enhancement via crispr-cas9
>nanobot blood boosters with erythropoiesis stimulating nanoparticles
>myofiber nanoreinforcement with carbon nanotubes
>Retinal implants with augmented reality overlays to identify optimal peloton draft vectors and wind vortex slipstreams
>Gut microbiome transplant from Tibetan yaks for hypoxia tolerance
>targeted hyperthermia therapy to induce diaphoresis to aid recovery

well well wellens
another BAM it is

Mike Teunissen (XAT): 200CHF fine for irregular feeding. His DS Dmitriy Fofonov also receives a fine of 500CHF
Victor Campenaerts (TVL): 500CHF fine, -25UCI points for disposing of waste outside the waste zones

>>149882046
based

>>149881671
Campy is his friend, he knew what was coming

>>149882046
3 more wins and UAE doubles second place. Tomorrow, MORGADO

>>149882183
>irregular feeding
u wot

>>149882205
they got feed zone limits for each stage. after feeding is closed, transfer of gels and such is forbidden (supposedly to limit overall chaos in the last kms of the race).

>>149881373 (OP)
so Tuesday is a pogi day

>>149881921
simply inefficient. preferably they would be put to work, building cycle paths across europe. the danes of course would dig the sewers instead

Miss Lipo is cute

Trine was a prophet

>>149882286
And thruzday even more (if it doesn't get canceled)

>>149881883
Aicar derivates

>>149881964
tough mother fucker

>>149882309
the Swabian phenotype

>The condition of American cyclist Alexis Magner was more serious. She lay motionless and unconscious on the asphalt for a moment after hitting her sternum hard. She was resuscitated on the spot by the ambulance service.

>The American is now stable and was transferred to hospital in consultation with the emergency services.

Wow someone in the ladies tour almost died in the sprint

>>149882286
>Ventoux uniporto stage
You don't say

>>149882309
yes

>>149882377
is there any sport as kino as ciclismo? look at this shot alone its like a renaissance painting

>>149882323
honestly with all the smug shit talking Jorgenson does to the media, fuck him

>>149882323
holy kek

>28C
berts help me im dying

Very bad chute

>>149882530
>mfw my face

>>149881883
>they have blood passports so can't give blood or EPO
LMFAO
the blood passport was invented by Mr. Johan "banned for life" Bruyneel, it doesn't work, just do "altitude camps" to excuse your fluctuations or dope all year and you're good, only the stupid lesser dopers get caught
the EPO test might work but if you inject microdoses it gets out of your system quickly and if you time it right you can avoid testing positive because wada only works 9-5

>>149882468
I have been mocked for not riding in hotter temps, so I got on my bike and did it

>>149882530
>female riders no survivors

SIMMONS is SEETHING about the moto which helped tims attack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84YMXXl_fb0
at 6:45

>>149881439
if I squint she looks bald(oped)

>>149882561
whole point of EPO is to raise Hemoglobin, which does not get out of your system quickly

>>149882587
and? high blood hemoglobin level is not against the rules

>>149882468
First summer?

>>149882643
but it is

>>149882583
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uzNCLhBuS0
3 minutes of continuous seething at everyone
Wellens, Campy, motobikes, his team

>Unfortunately we had Campanaerts just sitting there muttering something about Van Aert the whole time

>>149882733
looool what a sourpuss

>>149882733
Caremad bitch

"Bad luck for most of the favorites. Including Jonas. I was at the front with Tim (Wellens, ed.). There were three Visme riders there. We tried to calm things down. But I don't think it's fair what his teammates did to Jonas. All three attacked and tried to break away. We tried to calm things down, but the three Visme riders kept attacking. In the end, I'm glad that Jonas and the others came back unharmed and safely to the main group," he told TV Slovenia.

He added: "If I were Jonas, I wouldn't be happy that the team was racing like that at that moment. He is second in the overall standings and proves his worth time and time again. Of course, stage wins are nice, but the overall standings are also very important."

Jonas to UAE when?

Who on body of work that has never won it before should deserve to win the uci world championships in Kigali?

I think van aert and roglic are most deserving. Maybe Michael Matthews, he has been on the podium thrice already

>>149882964
UAE Jonas is even more cursed than Visma Pogi

>>149882561
>or dope all year and you're good,

This could explain Pogi's continuous great form

>>149882972
Remco swanepool

>>149882972
>Moto driver after crashing in the 2025 WC

>>149882733
holy cope and seethe
the guy must be getting on people's nerves

>rain all day tomorrow from morning untill night
welp that was that summer

>>149882964
Jonas to lidl trek or ineos makes sense to me, to uae not so much

I found the visma optics very strange today, I can only imagine they've given up on gc and are going for stage wins now

>>149882344
Why would it be canceled?

>>149881432
Why are they like this?

>>149882733
Yeah I'm actually seething right now. Dude is treated like shit by his team. That's been so obvious for the last few years. Trek seem generally retarded in their tactics and just lean on a few strong riders to get all their results.

The tactics were retarded today and they have been all tour. Jumbo are now almost as hated as trek in my books. Extremely cynical racing acting like they're still the strongest riders in the peloton. Campenaerts could have won today if he wasn't endlessly arsing around.

I feel bad for Quinn. He rides like an Anglo. He still rides with honour and sportsmanship. Takes his pulls on the front, wants a group to collaborate so they can fight the victory out. G2 slurp has gotten really really bad recent years. Like of you make a gap and get 30s you're essentially given the win instantly. Breaks never chase with cohesion now.

Stinks of typical med tactics the slimy dishonest faking being tired, never taking pulls etc. Quinn really needs to do the same, the issue is a breakaway relies on honest riders to make it work.

He attacks and gets marked every time but when others go they get the gaps for free. I think he's too marked for one and maybe lacks absolute ecplosivity. The fact he's not been given combativity prize is a disgrace.

>>149882964
He's just trolling Visma lol

>>149882964
He makes a good point to be fair to him. I saw when they were attacking his waved his arm then got onto radio each time they attacked.
Seems wheels are falling off at jumbo. Like rats fleeing the ship in the way they are riding, particularly campenaerts today. Really ratty ride from him.

They knew Jonas wouldn't win, they knew he'd get 2nd. So coming in with mentality for stages is the correct move regardless what trine or anyone says. But the way they went about it today? That was filthy. Jumbo relegated to almost trek levels in my books.

>why the fuck is Visma's strategy always so fucking retarded
>oh
>thats why
they are not a serious team

>>149882530
well no wonder look at all that water on the koers

>>149882964
Visma's tactics were honestly fucked up today. Trine is right. They race with very little regard for Jonas recently.

>>149883141
Trek has a strong hierachy in general and some very strong riders are acutally just stuck slaving there. Why has a dude like Skuins never been allowed to go for breaks and then you see him in very hard WC and the dude is a beast.
Another less obvious exemple is Bernard, he's on perma slaving duty but then he shows up in french NC he races alone to good result on pure strengh. I can tell you he would have done a better tdf than Nys btw

>>149883272
Kino

>>149882972
this conversation is moot because pog will go with 100k to go

>>149883362
dysgenic freaks

>>149882972
Matthews is retired bert havent you heard

>>149883252
They really hired a fucking youtuber to do their tactics

>>149883380
he complains about their tactics in his podcast too. my nigga you are the Head of Strategy

>>149883380
Shows the level of strategy in this sport. Road cycling needs Moneyball, xG.

>>149883410
i suspect it is essentially a no-show job and barely more than just a PR deal

>>149883380
From what I remember they were mainly here to do bertollo's job of looking at the profile, google maps and stuff to point out potential dangerous place (which they made more dangerous by riding like retards). Maybe this changed

>Trine was right
I kneel.

>>149883344
Definitely. Stuyven is like a caged animal. It's become a very cosmopolitan team with no real national affiliation. I don't think that benefits any team. A lot of riders in there could get exceptional results elsewhere and have done, but at trek they achieve nothing. Vacek if unleashed would be an animal. To see him shackled to mads was kinda sad but he did a great job and they got the results.

I hate the team in general. Feels like they get lucky wins which isn't often true, but that's what it feels like.

>>149882964
UAE keeps buying Jonas in my PCM careers

>>149883252
imagine how much this makes horner seethe

>>149882964
Ok maybe Pog is kinda based after all. Fuck Visma

>>149883599
motards chuting runners since the dawn of time huh

>>149883371
They really are. If I recall LR was going for a 5wkg FTP lmao. Wanted to get below 60kg to achieve it, how weak are you that you can't sit on 330ftp when you have access to best nutrition and trainers knowledge and live in cycling heaven.

LR isn't terrible but he's annoying geeky type. Has some decent insights. Irritating and plays up to the camera which you need to do, but just endless retarded hot takes. The other mutt seems genuinely stupid and very untalented. I cannot stand him, LR chose the worst mong to go into business with imo.

>>149882964
Hear me out: Bora Hans Bulle with Remco, Vingegaard and Roglic domestiques for Lipowitz

>>149883679
best schizobrit post in at least a year. i will now revert back to never replying to you ever

>>149883566
>a very cosmopolitan team with no real national affiliation
UAE appears to be doing fine without muh blood and soil

>>149883687
Don't forget the future Giro winner Pellizzari

Why does Pogi hate him so much

>>149883687
consider:
>LIPOWITZ
>HERZOG (lesser)
>HERZOG (greater)
>BRENNER
>POLLITT
>GALL
>ZIMMERMAN
>STEINHAUSER

>>149883687
put Roidlic out to the pasture
have Remking focus on one-weeks, classics and the Vuelta
don't get hooked by the fish

>>149883746
ginger

>>149883703
Almost half the roster are hispanic/meds. Team staff are very med as are the sponsors. It's a med team.

>>149883746
His ridiculous media interviews

what image should I attach?

>>149883637
Already recorded chutes caused by:
-Moto
-Car
-A woman
-A boy
-Horses
-Donkey
-Crater of a WW1 bomb

>>149882468
Have you tried not being a bitch? Free heat adaptations. Go for a swim if it gets too hot.

>>149883861
>out 26.7
>in 29.7
Have you tried turning the heating off?

>>149883861
utterly based finn

>>149883746
Talks too much

>>149883861
>29.7C indoors
>0001
I will continue to be a little bitch, thank you

>>149883687
I count three riders on that team who should be captain ahead of Lipowitz

>>149883861
i just had an ice cold beer and now i feel much better

>>149883968
I'm having a nice glass of red Burgundy and NONE of you are going to hear anything more about it

>>149882972
K Ü N G
Ü
N
G

>>149883831
Politt pointing to his vein yesterday

>>149883861
open a window friend

>>149883831
>Lemond posts on /cyc/

I would like UAE better if they were sponsored by some Italian supermarket or insurance company rather than a middle east government. It still just feels off

Fun fact: Roglic will win on Ventoux

>>149884128
Is the fun part that it is not a fact?

>>149883899
>>149884053
Heating has been off for well over a month, my balcony door is wide open 24/7. My apartment has big windows and is in the sun for literally all day so the entire thing heats up during the summer and it stays warm thanks to the insulation. It genuinely isn't even that bad. Last summer I had eggs on the table next to a window and they got cooked in the sun. If I kept the windows on my glazed balcony closed that thing will heat up to well over 40 during the day even when it's under 30.

Tbh I'll much rather take this than AC set to cold. I'm comfy in the heat. I've heated up my sauna multiple times this week. And I'm next to a beach so I'll just go take a dip if I'm feeling too hot.

>>149883746
why indeed

>>149883861
You know you have to close things during the day and open up everything when its cooler in the late evening or early morning right? Not the other way around

>>149884050
I'm enjoing a fresh glass of water instead. Much healthier and cheaper.

Business idea: Number of riders in a GT is the team's position in the UCI ranking +1

>>149884257
Pogi & Wellens vs. 45 Cofidis riders

>>149884229
You do realize that my apartment is hotter than the outside even during the hottest part of the day? If I close my door and windows it gets even hotter and there's no breeze which makes it a lot worse.

>>149884317
You're supposed to close things from the outside so the heat doesn't get inside the house. Put sheets or cardboard or anything on the outside of your windows.
Didn't know Fins were this retarded desu

>>149884300
>French RR Championships 2025.jpg

>>149883085
FAO Noah
gimme them blueprints for the ark

>>149884171
Sounds like you're letting the sunlight heat up your place. I keep shutters and windows closed when they are under direct sunlight and otherwise have them open.

>>149884317
My 1930 house is just 35cm of brick wall and there's roller shutters in front of the windows. If I'm not a retard and close them during the day, it'll be nice and cool even if its 35° outside.

Meanwhile my sisters house is a modern insulated house with big windows and no shutters and their AC can't even keep it below outside temps when it's hot.

Maybe we should use more brick and less insulation. Less windows and more shutters. Like generations before us already knew.

>>149884247
>water is cheap and healthy

>>149884438
>nestle ceo live reaction.webp

>>149884337
>>149884379
Let me just go and cover my entire house in cardboard. Jfc I'm not retarded. I know all of this. My house would be much hotter if I didn't do all the things that help. Also again, I don't mind this temperature. I'm in my lane, moisturized, nourishing, etc.

>>149884403
The biggest problem is house design definitely. The upside is that it's cheap to keep warm during the winter.

>>149883746
chat shit get banged

>>149884403
Now watching last night's Noir Alley

>>149884050
not even a label

>No, it looked like a pure misuse of the powers Van Aert already lacks – perhaps even in sheer desperation to get a result in a race where his decline has continued with almost intensified speed. Of course, you can easily defend that the team is chasing stages, if they have really given up on a Tour victory, which admittedly looks difficult, but then you might as well confess your suit instead of insisting that you still believe that you can win the race – and to use your energy to chase 2nd places, you even already have a good chance of getting, cannot be described as anything other than meaningless.
Axelgaard is fucking DONE with Visma

do you think the CIA could hack UAEs computers and find out what they are doing?

>>149884507
Nope. And the wine for next edition of /wtw/ is a punishment for everyone involved

>>149884534
Dr Pogi, I'm CIA

>>149884552
you could say it will put you at your Wits End

>>149884403
>roller shutters in front of the windows
I have never seen this in my life ever. It's always on the inside of the houses here.
You guys don't understand what us nordics have to go through, our houses are made to withstand ice ages. 30C happens once in a lifetime, it's just not something our houses are designed for

>>149884557
lotta of watts for a hired gun

>>149884571
God was that shit terrible. I can't imagine anything will be as bad as that. Literally tasted like a bottle of vanilla extract mixed with bum wine.

>>149884572
>You guys don't understand what us nordics have to go through, our houses are made to withstand ice ages. 30C happens once in a lifetime, it's just not something our houses are designed for
Kek, at the end of the day it's still 18 during the night, I've been in Bergen for the warmest day ever recorded and it's still nothing compared to south of france heatwave

FUCK W*UT
ALLAH DID NOTHING WRO6

>>149884572
euros seethe while i turn on my air conditioning and freeze

should i get a ciclocomputer or just keep using gps watch (can connect to power meter)

Whose wife would you like to have sex with the most in the Peloton?

What did Matteo son of Jørg say now?

>>149884709
oumi but only if i can maintain eye contact with remco during the intercourse. stare into his eyes while i dominate his wife

>>149884687
Computers are nice. You can get an prior generation one on sale for reasonable price and then have everything right in front of you with huge battery life, can quickly flip thru data screens. I have one screen for usual riding (power, speed, cadence), one screen for navigating (map, upcoming turns, power), one screen for climbing (gradient including upcoming gradient, anticipated remaining climb time, power, HR, cadence), and then one with tons of random data like time, TSS, calories, max speed, max power, etc.

>>149884592
>bum wine
Is that like barefoot wine?

>>149884731
I bet Remco could beat you in a fight when he's fit again.

>>149884687
A bike computer if you can afford it. They're useful. There's no need to get the latest and greatest, mind. I use mid-range Garmins (usually on the order of about £200); the hardware's good, the software's poor, and they pack too much crap into them for my taste, so that's a weak & qualified recommendation

>>149884757
>5'7
i will palm him by the head while he windmills haplessly in attempt to punch me. victim height and victim weight

>>149884732
get yourself a gombuda

>>149884687
ciclismocomputer are one of those things you speculate whether to get or not, but once you get one, you can't imagine going back
same goes for varia

>>149884814
>varia
I was surprised at how useful I've found mine. Somehow they're not a complete meme

>>149881373 (OP)
>rest day
Are rest days still necessary in this day and age?

I CANT SLEEP IN THIS FUCKING HEAT

>>149885070
Not to worry, the prestigious Clàssica Terres de l'Ebre is live instead

>>149884814
My varia has really convinced me, especially the use case on mountain descents is supernice because then you always have so much wind noise you can never tell a car gaining up on you

>>149885126
>Juan AYUSO -CLÀ
What is he up to

>>149885199
negotiating a contract buyout

Jonas actually admitted tonight on Aftentour that his team sucks donkey balls

>>149882583
He's just crazy

>>149883746
he’s just insufferable, he also talks shit

>>149884788
Garmins are absolutely shite, at least the older gens were. Break constantly and warranty just sends new ones. I went through 5x 510's and 2x 1000's until I got a wahoo. No issues with wahoo and it's got a ridiculous battery life. I loved garmin but it was unreasonable to continue to use their shite any longer.

Got nicotine gum and I'll never look back. What a delightful product. Even get the burning sensation of the nicotine. And the sickness after having too much.

>>149883362
they look like a gay couple

I miss having real characters in the Peloton. And NO having a mustache and a mullet and being a MAGA turd =/= character

>>149883362
ew

>>149885584
Does it help the craving?

>>149885634
2gan was the last G to leave cycling

>>149885634
You are not allowed to have fun in modern sports anymore. The closest thing to a character now is Remco when he is in full seethe mode.
No fun allowed .

>>149883252
My headcanon is that jumbo visma have been tactically inept for years they've just gotten superlative performances out of their riders to bring them success. It's more their performance and preparation and everything they do with material, food and training that has got them so many good results. When you have a van aert the 2nd best rider on hautacam I think you can't really lose

>>149885554
I've had a 520 and 540. Neither's been faulty for me but I couldn't believe the amount of crap I had to outright turn off on the 540; Wahoo's products seem more focussed and thought-through

>>149885634
Ben Healy is a character

>>149885723
Thibaut was a character.

>>149885634
you WILL have muslimco and you WILL appreciate it

>>149885667
I never considered myself addicted to cigarettes because I had stopped many times but last 2 days I though about smoking a lot, and I got angry and wanted to smoke today. Had a gum and instantly no longer wanted a cigarette. I was content after 5 minutes. 2 gums are like marlboro reds. It was good.

Bought a vape online too but I doubt I'll use it. Found vape tacky and I don't trust the liquid is entirely safe.

>>149885584
About 8 years ago I ordered illegal vapes from bulgaria because they weren't sold yet in BE.
They made them look like cigs and the taste was pretty tobacco-like as well. + they were cheap.
I quit smoking tobacco that day.
> fast forward 5 years
Everybody and their mom sucking fruit flavored boxes, online sales illegal and gov started taxing the shit out of them just like regular tobacco.
I bought some fidget toys and stress balls and quit nicotine all together.
Been off it for 3 years now, cravings are basically non existant these days.

tl;dr get some shit to sqeeze for your craving and just quit.

>>149885721
Wahoo is great but I despise the fact you need to use smartphone to set it up and change settings. Otherwise I'm content. It's a device I trust and it is built well. It doesn't feel fragile at all.

>>149885754
One of the Finnbert's has corrosive sweat that destroys Wahoos, but I've had mine for years and still solid as hell thru all weather conditions and my sweat

>>149885746
Why did you quit nicotine? I like it if it's once or twice a day. I feel at peace. Smoking is obviously not ideal but not as bad as people think, I mean many pros smoked and a lot, it's not optimal but it's not so detrimental either.

Vapes I distrust for it being so cheap and full of chemicals. I never liked vapes and it's cringe fag shit, I see so many people especially drivers with a vape in their hands constantly.

Gum seems perfect. Hit of nicotine when I want. Discrete clean and significantly less impactful than inhaling.

>>149885771
If sweat resistance is a major consideration when purchasing a cycling computer I'd suggest you're a filthy slobbish pig. Quick submersion in the bath or a gentle wipe of a tissue is what a normal person would do.

>LONG WAY TO PARIS
>TOUR IS STILL YOUNG
>JUST A FEW BAD DAYS NOTHING SPECIAL
>ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN
>WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS TOMORROW
>TOMORROW'S A NEW DAY
>YOU NEVER KNOW WHATS GONNA HAPPEN
>STILL A LONG WAY TO PARIS PAL
>ALL DAYS CAN'T BE GOOD DAYS, YOU KNOW?
>WE'RE ONLY IN THE SECOND WEEK
>LOTS MORE TOUR DE FRANCE TO GO
>YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN
>TEAM HAS PLANS FOR THE NEXT STAGES
>TOMORROW IS A DIFFERENT DAY
>PARIS IS STILL FAR AWAY
>WELL, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS

so who let's rank the biggest 3 frauds yet
for me, it's memco, j*rgenson and w*ut in this order

>>149885870
Milan

Mads would've won 3-5 stages at this point with same team

>>149885870
Jonas Wout Remco. First two because in retrospect they were almost certainly gigadoping and now they toned it down it's ruining the sport.

>>149885868
you have to feel bad for him, pogi told the group to slow down to let the other gc riders get in front and j*rgenson kept trying to attack like 50 times, w*ut goes in all these breakaways for literally no reason (probably just to slow them down). only campy deserved to go in the breakaway, he was the only guy from pissma who managed to help vinge

>>149885898
Give mads a vacek and he's taking minimum of 3 stages this year imo. Milan deserves his TSD.

>>149885804
Because it's an addiction that costs money and you don't need it. Yes it feels nice but once you actually kick the addiction you realize it really has no pro's. That's just how addiction works, it makes you believe it's just some harmless feel-good and you always find a bullshit reason for using it.
Why spend money and potentially harm your health (im gonna assume the gum will fuck your teeth or throat) for some "buzz" that adds nothing to your life.

Very similar to soda desu. I used to drink 1-2 cans of coke a day and after quitting nicotine I decided to kick the next bad habbit. Quitting that habbit was less intense in the short run but much harder in the long run. It took me half a year to lose all the cravings and stop finding excuses to have some anyways (but it's friday, but it's vacation, but i worked hard today, but its hot today, ...). Now I don't give a fuck anymore, you cant get me to drink that teeth destroying sugar anymore.

Fuck, when I bite an apple these days it tastes like fucking heaven because my taste buds aren't numbed by cigarettes and suar anymore.
Worth it 100%

>>149885898
>Cav finally retires
>ASO responds by replacing 7 pancake flat sprint stages with stages that favor punchier, lighter sprinters
>Lidl-Trek decides to take Jonathan "Dropped on the Col du Vam" Milan as the centerpiece of their team
Team is certifiably retarded, esp with tactics re Simmons

>>149885925
Honestly this is the worst possible TdF for a pure sprinter in recent memory.
I bet Milan has a clause in his contract that he needs to go to the tour otherwise it doesn't make sense.

>>149885964
never thought i'd agree with a belgian post

>>149885804
>addiction of which the main effects happen long term and far in the future
>person currently in the short term:"its really not that bad"
you really are a mouth breather kid

>>149885964
Agree on the soda part. I‘m still in the "finding excuses" phase, mostly when I'm eating out. I slimmed down a bit after not drinking that shit every day, though. I guess inflation also helped me to drink less as I refuse to pay the current ridiculous prices for a can of coke that used to cost next to nothing a few years ago.

>>149882733
His interview is quite level headed only threw shade at his own team really

Jonas takes 2 minutes on Pogi in Stage 16

i'm from the future

I drink a six pack of soda every single day, and it is fine because it is Diet and has 0 calories. Truly a miracle, a drink with all the benefits of a ice cold soda with zero bad effects

so is stage 18 the hardest in history?

>>149886319
No, the hardest stage in history will probably happen at a later date

>>149886289
Hope he takes 30 minutes on Jorgenson the useless cunt.

>>149886351
jorgenson will come with the grupetto

>>149884687
Why invest further in cycling when running is the SVPERIOR sport ?

>>149886351
matteo has had to ride backwards in every stage to drag the fish puppet to the finish

not sure what youre upset about

>>149886351
I hope those fuckers abandon him again for the rest of the tour, so he can either get a new team or move to another team.

>>149885739
>I don't trust the liquid is entirely safe.
Same especially because it's all manufactured in China

>>149885739
Have you since been on a bender and it worked with the gums?

nice road

>>149886304
Ah yes, because artifical sweeteners and other additives in soda are so good for you

fuck jorgenson what does he even do useless cunt

no matter how much you seethe you will never make me hate that goofy ginger idahoan

>>149886319
According to PCS's "Profile Score" rating, the hardest stage ever was stage 17 of the 1977 TdF.

Which I don't quite understand because Stage 18 of the Tour this year has comparable length (172km vs. 184 km), shares 2/3 climbs (Col de la Madeleine and Col du Glandon), and the third climb of 2025 (Col de la Loze) is harder than third climb of 1977 (Alpe d'Huez).

Yet the profile score for 2025 stage is 414 vs. 1977 stage at 715

>>149886740
downtube shifters add 300 points

Look at this fucker from 1983

Today at the trailhead I was approached by a one eyed Amish man asking for advice on which trails to ride with his family. The entire family was dressed in traditional Amish clothing. The girls had traditional white head coverings. None of them wore helmets. I gave him some advice and then to my surprise they all rolled off on full suspension Trek e-bikes.

Isn't this against the rules? What the fuck did I just witness?

>>149886740
Bikes back then were 5kg heavier.

>>149886524
Like bender drinking? I don't drink because it sends me insane but I'd almost certainly drive to 24hr petrol to get cigarettes, there's no doubt. The feeling of lighting up and smoking is very calming regardless. But I doubt you're as impulsive as I am and if you want nicotine when drinking the gum will certainly deliver that. It is only my first day using it. I doubt my gums would be too affected but I've not looked into that. I'm sure it's significant better than smoke in the mouth. I'd try it, £10 for 105 pieces so around 10p a gum. Gum lasts about 30 minutes, chew a few times, leave it for 5 minutes and repeat until it's not giving nicotine sensation. At least that's how I used it.

Be honest can you whistle with two fingers in your mouth?

>>149886806
They should have taken their horsebergs

>>149886685
Name one (1) bad side effect.

Hard mode: do it without sounding like a schizo conspiritard

The Landis stage was insane

>>149881439
That's a man, right?

>>149886878
I can only do it with 4, really wish I could do it without any fingers, that must feel amazing

>>149886941
>Name one (1) bad side effect.
You open yourself up to being clowned on by a belgian online

>>149886976
Campenaerts on HRT for 6 months

>>149886941
The findings suggest that aspartame has the potential to impact various cancer-related proteins, potentially raising the likelihood of cellular carcinogenesis by interfering with biomolecular function. Furthermore, the study found that the action patterns and pathways of aspartame-related targets are like the mechanisms of known carcinogenic pathways, further supporting the scientific hypothesis of its potential carcinogenicity.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-62461-w

generally molecularly similar but not quite molecules are suspect, may disrupt various functions by substituting for similar molecules in the body.

>>149886941
acidity fucks your teeth. For additives research you can read pubmed articles for days

>>149887019
>Do it without sounding like a schizo conspiritard

Better luck next time

>>149887019
i guess trine and ronaldo have one thing in common: they were right from the beginning

>>149887019
>>149886941
aspartame is relatively tame though. sucralose is genotoxic by way of its metabolic byproduct and disrupts stomach lining. this is a human study.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10937404.2023.2213903

>>149886740
PCSman is just lazy, the 1977 value is what the value would be if every climb does not have distance from the finish factored in. I assume because he didn't have the profile he doesn't have the information of distance to the finish so his algorithm just sees the three climbs with unspecified distances and so doesn't assign a weight based on distance, so gives a massively overinflated value.

>>149887080
the body is incredibly complex. it's fairly easy for some effect to slip through the initial review if it's long term. i wouldn't be so confident that the food industry and regulators have full knowledge or good faith. ;)

what are you using your rest day for?

>>149887150
work

once again pcsman please hire me to be your dataslave i promise ill be really good and only mildly vandalize your database with fake names. i can even fix gearboxes

>>149881969
> pog as the best natural rider doesn't need to dope
The level of performance among world elite riders is naturally very close, probably to the second decimal place in Watts/kg, because each one of them is already an exceptional talent that has been filtered from countless amateurs. If one of them is showing ~10% higher performance than everybody else again and again it's like one Olympic sprinter running a whole second faster over 100m than all his competitors with ease.

>>149887010
> no tits, no ass
It's a boy.

>>149887186
not true. rare outliers dominating is the norm in elite sports.

>>149887242
this, its just a poisson distribution. Would actually be weird if the top runners were closer.

>>149887051
Post tunes shitheads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrWaIaSeWPQ

>>149887284
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF2kl7K-sP0

Hamburg(er) Hour (DE)

>>149885554
I have a Garmin Edge 840 and I hate the totally counterintuitive menu. Yesterday, when I removed it from my bike before I entered a gas station, I somehow must have changed some setting by touching the display and it would no longer show the display pages I programmed but completely other pages. No way to get them back without ending the recording session, 'Return Button' didn't help BUT IT SHOULD! It should always return to the PREVIOUS MODE, not some arbitrary factory default shit. I hate it, HATE IT!

It's 1925 you goofs, wait 35 minutes

>>149887242
Doping is the norm in elite sports and there are often some individuals or teams that have access to stuff the others don't know/don't have yet.

90% of teams are run by complete retards these days who have zero control over their own riders
its literally every man for themselves
when will they get some DS with balls and put these fucks in their place

>>149887242
those 'rare dominators' are all dopers you retard

>>149887452
Even Anquetil?

>>149887452
it has to do with math you wouldnt understand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwYKOCwBn1Q
>>149887395
Based
>>149887307
This makes me feel uneasy

>>149887459
did anquetil dominate?
im looking at his wins and he basically just won the TTs but not even by that much
the TTs were long as fuck back then...him gaining 2 minutes on the next guy over a TT that took one and a half hours is not that dominating

>>149887486
Indurain clears

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyKa_qFfuqc

>>149886806
These farming communities are bike crazed

See LANDIS Floyd

>>149887486
He dominated his step daughter that's for sure

>>149887507
I thought Floyd Landis' parents wanted to disown him for riding a bicycle

>>149887465
Yep, and mohoric with is "shhh" gesture after his stage win. Astana we're almost outright banned in the mid 10's. It's why I think sky were largely clean. Their climbing times were shit. They just abused TUE's and probably used them as weight strippers like salbutamol. That whole generation largely stayed at the same level and they're pretty much all shit now, except from the Yates and maybe a few other.

Sky generation is sandwiched between ultra dopers in the 00's and ultra dopers in the 20's.

you can reconstruct a population wide performance distribution by realistically modeling polygenic traits. traits are polygenic, independent, additive but with bottlenecks.

good tunes german berts

>>149887517
Geil, KOMPAKT

>>149887622
KOMPAKT BESCHDE :))))

>>149887624
Is McDonald's halal?

>>149887298
mattias why is your flag danish shouldnt you be in haerentals

>>149887635
My running playlist is full with their releases, especially from their Speicher LPs. Also like the ambient, mellow stuff ofc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngNbJ1LPfWE

>>149887431
>>149887452
>noooooo everyone is doping, but some of them are just doping even moooooooore. it just makes sense, okay? dont think about it too much chud

>>149887659
Except for the McRib, I think so, yes.

>>149887536
>traits are... independent
BZZT wrong not really please add more nuance

>>149887722
Ever since I have seen bloody amateurs dope in training camps with my own eyes in the 90s, I have no illusions about any professional rider being clean.

>>149887737
you are misunderstanding. independently distributed/heritable.

>>149887766
Tell us more Bert.
Were you a coach or a future prospect?

>>149887766
amateur riders dont get tested and Obviously the sport is different then the 90's. this monolith mentality is why whenever I mention pro cycling to another meiguo the immediate question is whether they're all doping

>>149887825
love these stories about fake USADA vans completely devastating US amateur crit fields

>>149887507
I thought they didn't use electricity

>>149887871
Mennonites do. They are not quite as serious as the Amish.

>>149887848
The US is actually super puritan with this shit, in basically every other country its just accepted without shame.

Baked some beef ribs and double baked a russet for dinner. Very filling, very yummy

>>149887848
tbqh most amateur dopers are proably going to be just on some testosterone or some shit, i doubt most of them will get popped because they don't have a blood passport. i doubt most master's fields are full of guys running around at 65% haematocrit and three anabolic steroids in the bloodstream.

>>149887818
I was an amateur with accidental contact to some former German Democratic Republic national team trainer. I saw him distribute gear to individuals who had a personal coaching deal with him. Alex Zülle was one of his clients I remember.

>>149888068
this is a very interesting story please tell more; but you do realize how an outdated anecdote about the GDR and the main rider for fucking Festina during the Festina affair might not be very applicable to modern day cycling, considering how soviet bloc state doping and scandals to the level of those in the 90's dont happen at all anymore

I miss the GDR, now that part of Germany is nothing but chuds

>>149888094
>considering how soviet bloc state doping and scandals
Incidentally the same reason for russian white flags in sport now.

>>149888094
I see no reason to believe that with all the big money involved in modern pro sports they would have any less incentive to dope. The doping doctors made their homework, they have access to everything under the sun and in the shadows from Chinese sources, they benefit from scientific progress, from genetic engineering. It's probably much easier to dope nowadays without getting caught than ever before. Hence we don't get to know it.

>>149888253
No influence campaigns involved at all

apparently team managers and hire ups are starting to leak their grumblings to the press now about what's happening with UAE

>>149888918
No proof

>>149888918
What do you mean "what's happening with UAE"?

>>149888974
Articles will be dropping soon.

>>149886740
Their data of old stages has terrible quality done with old GPS, they have something that automatically calculates the score, so if you give bad GPS data it makes a wrong profile score
Let's say the real climb has a regular 7%, the old GPS instead of showing somewhat regular like 8% then 6% then 9% then 6% etc does like 100m at 30%, then 100m downhill, then again 100m at 30% etc. so their calculator sees all those rampas and thinks they are real and gives an high score

tl;dr only trust Bertollo

>>149889028
For a visual explanation, this is how the first part of Cormet de Roselend looks like in their old GPS data

New stage from 1919

>>149889304
Do you find old scans of news articles for the play-by-play Bertollo? Keep posting them, I love this shit

>>149889406
Yeah I read scans of old journals
This is how looks like when the quality is not that bad

>>149889101
they could get some sweet air time off those jumps

>>149888918
>hire ups

good morning sar

>>149889658
You have to understand, we have no department of education in our country no more

>>149889304
>Belloni did the final 3 km running

Clàssica Terres de l'Ebre (1.1)
Roquetes - Tortosa
185.8km

Startlist:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/clasica-terres-de-l-ebre/2025/startlist

Roadbook:
https://classicaterresdelebre.cat/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/LdR-Classica-Terres-de-lEbre-2025.pdf

Live stats:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/clasica-terres-de-l-ebre/2025/result/live

Streams:
https://tiz-cycling-live.io/
https://cycling.today/live-streaming/
https://thedaddy.click/
Eurosport / Discovery+ / HBO / TNT / EITB
16:00 CET

>>149884083
the virgin lemond
>only races le tour
>hypocritically calls out lance for cheating
>uses new not yet sanctioned technology to beat the french
>cries about the EPO era despite using amphetimines his entire riding career
If he won it more than 3 times he would never be such a whiny bitch.
>NOOO I GOT DICK CHENEY'D
Fucking deserved it, fucking monkey.

>>149885554
seconded, had a garmin edge 1000 & 1030, both shit the bed after a tiny bit of rain. also the touchscreen SUCKS as soon as it gets hit by a drop of sweat it just starts clicking around. got meself a wahoo element roam v2 a few years back and never looked back, it literally is the perfect bike gombuder

>>149885804
>I feel at peace
thats because your body is in constant nicotine withdrawal and that hit once or twice a day is temporarily "fixing" that withdrawal - just stop with the tobacco j*w

>>149890112
My 530 has been "just working" since 2019

>>149890053
donde esta ayuso?

TinTin et les belges

Amerisharts seething at Pog
>>149890536

>>149890614
I despise launching accusations of doping at ONE guy in the entire peloton so much. Obviously all the top teams are doped up, besides Quickstep, who are utilising Remco's natural aerodynamic skin instead (altough maybe he should start doping too).

careful there, Quinn, or you'll get on the list

>>149890719
To be fair, Quinn never wins anyway

have visma commented at all yet about the situation where visma riders were attacking for the stage win while vingegaard was chasing the peloton?

>>149890778
jonas did

>>149890778
Wout said it was a "tactically difficult decision" in a very short interview, but I think that's it. Seeing as both Rog and Skjelmose are done, I think Jonas is a Bora og Trek man next season for sure.

>>149890781
wow haha…it’s over, what happened to samen winnen

>>149890781
yeah, i saw that one, but thanks. haven't read any comments from the 'sports directors' though. team spirit seems to be crumbling at visma, if it was there to begin with in this tour.

>>149890806
“tactically we were perfect”
Grischa

New Canyon Sram jersey dropped

>>149890844
This would tenfold women cycling vieuwcount

>>149890844
that's some worse tan lines than memco has

>>149890844
imagine the road rash

>>149890844
wow

>>149889304
pretty crazy to have a two-up sprint after 14hrs

silly looking bikes

>>149891006
It’s giving hobby horsing

>>149891006
looks like a crackhead bike desu

>>149890887
yes but imagine the rush on the roads

>>149889304
Dude you should really start putting all your research somewhere. Ideally would be a blog or something but at least a twitter account about the old giro stories.

>It's completely hopeless the way they're driving. I don't understand anything.
>After Sunday's stage, it's legitimate to ask whether he should look for another team. They clearly don't have him as a priority. It's so disappointing to see.
>Even Pogacar said he didn't understand how three of Jonas' Visma riders could take turns attacking at the front when Jonas was hanging at the back of the peloton. He had to chase after the Visma riders, and as long as he does that, it's impossible for Jonas to get back up. Excuse me, but this is fucking critical.
>Maybe Trine saw it coming when she announced it at the start of the Tour.
>I think it's really a shame that we have to sit and discuss this. We have a Dane who has won the Tour twice, who we cheer for. We want to see him be good. Sparkle and win the Tour. And then they screw him up like that.
>The team is cutting him in the middle, and I really think it's rude. What the hell are they thinking? There are no other teams that do that.
>Jonas is not getting the support he needs. It's obvious, and it's problematic. Right now he's riding on the wrong team, but he also needs to ride on a crew that's strong enough to back him up.
>As a Dane, I just think: 'Hmm, you have to do something about that, Jonas.' How fast does he have to go before Visma believes in him?
>And yes, I understand that you have another superstar in Wout van Aert on the team, but I don't care. He is clearly more interested in riding his own Tour than helping Vingegaard.
>Now show the man some respect. He has fought for what he does, and show respect for the class rider he is. He really deserves it, and I really have a hard time seeing why it has to be like this.
>The problem is that the management has promised van Aert that he can do as he pleases.
>It ended up with a situation on Sunday's stage where Jonas seemed abandoned by his team, who were more interested in winning the stage.
SEETHING

>>149891075
>And yes, I understand that you have another superstar in Wout van Aert on the team, but I don't care. He is clearly more interested in riding his own Tour than helping Vingegaard.
lmao

w*ut is motordoping btw

>>149891075
have we ruled out the possibility that bjarne is one of the danish posters on here?

>>149891075
based and real

come on lidl, looks like there's a special offer on fish this year

>>149891075
He's right pisma have been riding like utter clowns all tour.
Never seen that before when your guy is 2nd overall.
Even Telekom we're not that bad when they tried to win green with Zabel while winning yellow with Ulle

>>149889304
xir, create a GitHub account and ask a llm how to create a free blog on GitHub and post all of these there, they shouldn't be lost in /cyc/ threads

>>149885771
>>149885831
It wasn't sweat that killed it. The screen just delaminated from the rest of the computer on its own and then on a wet race day it took in water and died. And I'm not the only one who had this happen to them. The original ROAM models had some problems with screen delamination from what I've heard. I was really happy with Wahoo but I got a mega deal on a 840 when that happened and decided to give Garmin a go. They both have their pros and cons, I'd be happy on either platform.

>>149890781
>I was sitting with three teammates
>AAAAHHHH COME BACK FOR ME WOUT

>>149890781
this was from the aftentour, im actually shocked he said anything, he is nutorious for brushing things off

>>149891342
notorious *

tomorrow

>>149891376
>not a single campervan
>not a single flag dangling in the rider's faces
>not a single dino costume
>no fullkit wankers running along

can we go back

>>149891075
The problem is not that they supposedly "abandoned" him, the real problem is they don't even win the stage

>>149891248
Completely out of the question. He's a bustly man, and I don't even know what a 4channel is

>Extreme weather warning tomorrow with over 100 militre rain with flooding where i am
>Mount Ventoux stage on the TV
Yea im thinking tomorrow is gonna be fucking COMFY
also total sommerhusowner death kek

>>149891400
BJARNE MAKE A FUCKING TEAM

>>149891400
>bustly
What the fuck is my autocorrect smoking?

>>149891075
>superstar in Wout van Aert on the team
what did he mean by this

>>149891407
isnt it today?

>>149887439
I've said this before and I'll say it again. Every interaction I've had with pro sports makes me more and more convinced that the entire pro sports field in terms of coaching, management, etc. is filled with retards that only have a job because they know someone else in the field.

Team Sky's dominance was literally just not being retarded. Jumbo then copied it but it feels like they're still infested with retards.

>>149891415
Today and tomorrow

>>149891416
She was right all along
I kneel

>>149891416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-8kmPJKGgM

im tempted to do a trine edit with this in the background

>>149891416
loving trineposting. visma make it so easy too

>>149891210
>press down on pedal
>back
wheel goes round
Damn, that's crazy.
I'm pretty sure that if there was a motor it would be slightly more refined than making your back wheel spin round at random intervals.

>>149891416
I'm sorry mommy.

>>149891416
>>149891435

you could also argue that it was her interview that caused the mutiny to happen.

>>149891468
Good
I need Jonas on LIDL and i need it NOW

>>149891475
but then they would have 2 skelly coldlets

>>149891475
Imagine the banter between Mads and Trine if she ever talked shit holy

>>149891475
and since she is his manager, she could have been forcing a break with visma all along. a masterplan whichever way you look at it.

Throw out gamergate and give Jonas a contract
No joke Mads would convince Jonas to do classics

>>149891416
I'm sorry trine, I should have listened

They only raced 5 days between rest days. Very lame.

>>149891515
>Callum Scottson

>>149891416
Mommy is always right

>>149891475
Don't they let Mads do what he wants? He hates training camps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2H8brcXXk8

Vinge would flourish like a flower on a team with mads, unironically

>>149891075
Trine was the trendsetter even Riis was deboooking her at first

>>149891524
no, seriously, what is the though process behind this? you look at his results so far and be like, hell yeah, this dude got a chance to win on fucking Mont Ventoux

Yesterday Tim Naberman achieved a top 100 for the first time in this Tour

>>149891468
>>149891487
5d skak

>>149891546
he has 36 guys ahead of him even though he said he would stop naming half the peloton. this is what it should be

pogacar is actually feeling a bit under the weather. what if his sore throat gets worse? i'm nervous.

>>149891546
he was in the GC group very late in the stage on multiple days, unironically a good domestique for gall and someone who could get into a break of flat rouleurs. 19th on superbagneres means he's finishing with S. YATES and HIGUITA

>>149891561
What signs of weakness?

>>149891594
gifting thymen a stage win

>>149891594
UAE rode all day then Pog didn't attack (because he is weak).

>>149891561
And then you guys tell me he believes it

Tbf Pogacar (and UAE in general) is often bad after a rest day

>>149890806
Grisha Nierman:
>"We've been here with several goals from the start. It was my decision to let Wout and Victor attack and not to bring everyone back for Jonas. I had a feeling the situation with Jonas would resolve itself."

>>149891594
he seemed to lack something on superbagneres. he's catched a cold. i hope he's fine, but they could be signs.

>>149891607
He's actually right, but it's not a good look

>>149891607
>had a feeling
thought you meant to be all data driven. weak cope

>>149891607
"he had a feeling", sounds like waterproof tactiques when riding for a 2nd place in the GC.
They have given up on fishboy haven't they?

>>149891633
realistically how do you bridge 4 minutes in GC on Pogacar on the road unless you body check him

>>149891614
he's not. why would you let riders of your team increase the tempo of the peloton when other riders of your team are chasing that peloton. even if you trust that vingegaard will catch the peloton, you're still not helping him. i think there's no excuse for what happened and it proves that things in the team are not well.

>rest day

No Arbeitszeitbetrug today then

>Clàssica Terres de l'Ebre
>UAE on startlist
>Torres is not starting
?

>>149889468
>>149889468
>This is how looks like when the quality is not that bad
This is barely readable lmao. How does it look when the quality is bad then?

>>149891654
you're posting on 4chan. does that count as work?

>>149891613
considering he had no problems to keep vinge's wheel and then had the power to sprint, i highly doubt that he really lacked something

>>149891633
It seems that way. I think what happened is you had timid gregarios like wout and campenaerts, who would only burn matches at the behest lf Jonas. But then they added an American rider, freedom toting gun wielding truck driving matteo jorgenson and now even the usually submissive Belgians are acting out and it's a free for all and Jonas is the victim

>>149891673
the antidiskriminierungsstelle pay him very well

>Tadej Pogacar didn't understand this, he said after the stage. But Van Aert countered that criticism. "It's quite funny what he says, because he did the same thing to get Wellens into the breakaway."

>"There was an easy solution. We had about 25 riders who wanted to get into the breakaway. Pogacar could have waited for the peloton where Jonas was. Then he could have shown real sportsmanship. Now he's complaining about something that isn't there."

Why do these fuckers get so many rest days?
One the clock starts on the first stage it should not stop till Paris.

>>149891701
lmao. touched a nerve there. and visma were thinking they were agitating pogi!

>>149891416
THEY HATED HER

>>149891701
what did he mean by this, it's not pogi's job to bring vinge back, it's his job

>>149891475
Trek gas been turbo dogshit this tour and every other race they’re carried by riders lol

>>149891736
yes well they brought a full train for mailand and their main mountain guy chuted again. simmons has been overperforming

>>149891746
Yeah that’s DESPITE trek though

>>149891755
reading hord

>>149891701
lmao 4out is a retard

Vuelta casually changing mountain stages one month before the race

>Team Visma falling apart during the final week

kino

When is the last time Vingerfish beat the Slovenian dopeur in any circumstances?
I cant even remember. I like the dose of hopium though.

>>149891817
The le Tour always delivers

>>149891824
Last time he took time on him in a road stage is Courchevel 2023

>>149891846
...and you manage to actually read these? how?

I still believe

>rain and cold on Loze on thursday
Queen stage of the Tour with hardman weather let's go>>149891881

>>149891923
when you thought it couldn't be more over for Jonas, but now it's truly over.

>>149891878
If you know the language it's easier, and you don't need to understand every word, just the general sense

For example the first part of the pic says: A venti chilometri dall'arrivo Gremo buca, i due bianco-celesti non si accorgono dell'incidente di cui è stato vittima l'avversario.

>>149891801
RAMPAS

>>149891970
Gemini 2.5 Pro gave me:
>Based on the newspaper clipping provided, here is the transcription of the Italian text:

A 20 chilometri dall'arrivo Tecchio buca i due bianco-celesti non si accorgono dell'incidente di cui è vittima l'avversario. Del resto una vera fuga — cosa quasi impossibile su queste strade pressochè impraticabili. Tuttavia Buysse, che è al comando, conduce con energia. Cugnot; slanciandosi, Brusero perdono definitivamente contatto. Buysse, inseguito da Girardengo lo segue facilmente, nella ruota. Di fatto di fronte a Belloni, Girardengo è ormai solo contro i due bianco-celesti, ma non ha l'aria di avere timore della sua posizione.

>>149892021
That's pretty good

Wtf is wrong with visma that they can't keep their riders in line even at the biggest race of the year? I agree that they should be going for stages too now that they have given up on the fishboy, but not like this lmao

Imagine living there

>>149892161
best BF2 map for dog fights

>>149889506
>tfw no sagan in peloton
>>149890719
any webm?

>>149892161
Where is this? Okinawa?

>>149891801
they added this rampa to lure roglic
but to no avail

>Alpecin-Deceuninck announces the fifth edition of its Merci Poupou campaign, taking place during the 2025TdF.
>This year’s edition holds particular significance as it marks both the five-year anniversary of the Merci Poupou foundation and the 60th anniversary of Raymond Poulidor’s historic stage victory on Mont Ventoux in 1965.

>>149892199
Okeania

>>149891701
based retard

>>149891701
unhinged

>>149891814
Ala basically has won this tdf as far as I'm concerned

Kek that retard Simmons just put himself on UAE's blacklist

death, taxes and trine being right

Pogi on Thursday

>>149892303
>gets exposed as being a wheelsucker then moto sucker
cry about it you filthy doped boomer bitch

>>149892421
maybe Simmons should also change his tactics? he went in all breakaways and always was beaten in some way or form, 2 times in the same manner by healy and wellens.

>>149892416
what kind of graphics are those? Do americans not have the regular french tdf graphics?

>>149892483
No, the geniuses at NBC have decided to create the worst broadcast in the world that caters to neither actual fans nor new fans

>Ventoux after a rest day
Pogibros.....

Are the riders even going to be able to attack tomorrow?
I expect a sea of people all the way up Ventoux, could we see someone running for the line again?

fill me in with the trine
i was underground for a while

>>149892530
She talked shit in a danish newspaper about Visma having to many objectives and not forcusing sorely on Jonas as captain like UAE does with Pogi
How they ride for Wout which removes focus from the big and important thing which is winning the TDF
Also about how Visma is putting too much pressure on Jonas with training camps all the time to focus on TDF, wants to see his focus more spread out, that it’s draining him being on these altitude camps for long period of times

>>149892546
well, cant say she's wrong

>>149892546
Even the part about altitude camp she's right. They have been obsessed with these camps for a while, like wout missing out on strade and MSR to go back there. Meanwhile grug and pogi only do a short one before the tour, rest of the time they train at home and have fun racing

>>149892567
Also that if Jonas spends so much time to prepare for the TDF then it’s direspecting his time if they ride random stages for Wout
Like yesterday

saw someone cycling and wearing pog rainbow jersey near my small town
pogmania is real

the fuck is Simmons on about? that moto was miles in front of Wellens when he attacked, how did that help him in any way?

>>149892602
Yesterday I saw a 110+kg boomer riding with a full XXXL polka dot kit, including a matching helmet.
He was with 3 old ladies dressed in casual clothes, they all had ebikes and this part of the country is pretty much flat.

Looks as if visma's reign at the top is about to end. They'll be back to mid pack in a year or two I think. I wonder who takes their place as number 2. Maybe a beefed yo decathlon? Ineos rises from the embers?

>>149892199
Tuvalu

>>149892755
KEK, based boomers

>>149892755
there is some boomer bitch on a commuter ebike in my town that uses strava and claims KOMs
it has a milk crate on the back she puts groceries in
Ive flagged her so many times seething like a bitch and her rides keep getting deleted but she keeps doing it
even the flatbrim eEnduro bros stopped shitting up strava seggies but this fucking bitch...

>>149892757
UCI should do a race a year where its legal to do doping but not mechanical
Blood transfusions, EPO, any and all types of pain killers and muscle relaxations no limits
that way if they reach the same level in other races it would be obvious

>>149892757
>do a landis on a unipuerto
wait until the etape 18 & 19

>>149892755
remember when geschke had a mechanical in the KOM jersey and the fattest man alive gave him a push to keep going in front of his campervan

>>149892803
I said every 5 years you do a doped tour. Everyone can dope for that tour. Monitor the performance of the riders. Poogacar puts in the same performance huh? Still wins by a minute? 5 year ban thanks for playing.

Ventoux kino tomorrow
hardest fucking thing i have ever done in my life, i dont envy the riders having to do it during the summer

>>149891846
Why do people even bother to produce such shit scans? Is it some publicly funded archival project where they have to meet a quota for pages digitized but nobody ever cares to check quality?

>>149892874
How long did it take you?

>>149892755
I hate boomers on ebikes. Nothing worse than pedalling at speed having a good time, then getting passed by some smug fat out of shape boomer.

>>149892874
every pebble of rock you can see represents a belgian boomer who went on holiday to climb ventoux and never came back

>>149892890
2 hours and 22 minutes

>>149892910
What average power and cadence? Ruthless climb. Poogacar gets 5 minutes tomorrow of he wants.

>>149892903
Your telling me i took home a dead lelgien boomer?

>>149892898
It's awful. The complementary side is that it feels great to pass some enorme boomer on their ebike. But the scales don't balance

>>149892926
A bit of them, at least. Can't you see the nose?

>>149892870
Think it through. If he maintains his current seemingly undectable regiment, but Vingegaard up his dise enough to beat him. Vingegaard may have the doped Tour, but Pogacar has 4 so called clean Tours. It is clearly worth it if you have the consistency of Pogacar to eat a loss on 1/5 of the Tours.

>>149892919
dont know, i dont have a powermeter on my bike and im not getting one
i like riding my bike more on feeling and not some graph, i dont need a computer to tell me when im feeling good or bad
i most just use my garmin for the speed and the GPS map

>>149892948
Vingegaard could up his dose and ride an e bike. Still won't catch poogacar.

>>149892950
Wow ur so cool. Only people I hear not wanting to get power are shitters like irish potato man who are scared they've got shitty power after all. A cope.

>>149892930
>is that it feels great to pass some enorme boomer on their ebike
I can't do that unfortunately, I drive a 14 year old normal bike that rattles and shakes like crazy with a slightly bent wheel. I keep forgetting to buy a new one.

>>149892950
get rid of the computer entirely

>>149892878
Probably scans done in the early internet era with bad technology on already damaged+100 years old pages by someone who had to manually scan 500 journals for each year x 40 pages each x 150 years, that's a lot of scans, I doubt he checked the quality

>>149892971
from seeing irishbert's rooning pace i assume he could drop you with one leg nosebreathing

>>149892971
hey no need to be rude schizobrit
i just dont like powermeters and i dont like discbrakes, its a vibe thing

ASO has had enough of this clown
KEK

>>149892985
He's a manlet, I'd wager he's narrow shouldered cardio baby. I was rubbing shoulders with the likes of Pidcock and Turner as a teen lmao, 6 month training and I'd gladly put him away. Anyone without shit genes can cardio, but whether they're explosive? That's all that matters. IIRC he was boasting his mate said he could do 1100w for 30s, which is cute. I do that untrained.

Cyc zwift worlds this year will really upset many posters, a realisation anglos are here to stay.

it was also Matteo going while Jonas was behind that is just so toxic I can’t imagine they have a good atmosphere right now

>>149893007
lmao

Charcoal tabs saved me from extreme bloating. Massive difference now.

>>149892878
>>149892983
Some guy created these scans in high quality and then someone else batch converted it all to 30 ppi and 70% JPEG quality to save storage cost.

>skinny rooner who can just about hit 1100w
I should think he'd be obliterated by most berts honestly

Standardised cyc zwift world champs where everyone's weight is adjusted to 5w/kg FTP so burger fats can partake. Zero excuses. A measure of pain tolerance and endurance.

schizobrit already running out of ideas on the rest day. sad!

UAE wins again

Man with the Turkish flag, a mainstay of TdF stage finishes, has been detained.
https://x.com/propelotontr/status/1947284896671568159

>>149893130
KEK

>>149893130
Based ASO, Heil Prudhomme

>>149893130
fuck turkroaches

>>149891701
>Tadej should have babysat Jonas because I ain't doing it anymore. Fuck da fishboy and fuck Trine
rude but based

>>149891755
who is the Trek Brailsford? Usually the Big Teams™ have known guys. I don't know anything about the Trek guys

Del Toro wins

And UAE wins again

>>149893130
>https://x.com/propelotontr/status/1947284896671568159
too much haşış

nice photo

I realized I haven't heard him speaking Spanish before this

top 10

>>149893130
>details in the video
I don't squeak türk

If Pog does the Vuelta and wins a lot UAE can finish the season with more than 100 wins

>>149893130
>who has been following the race on-site for years
Wait... you're telling me it was always the same guy?

>>149893381
a really lame version of Didi

>>149890844
Why do they have handlebar bars? Toilet paper?

>>149892926
jawadde

Jonas to UAE. That way he would at least get one GT win a year.

New bike day. Sort of because I need tyres bars and BB. Looks like pure sex the new bike. Shan't post until it's built. Needs pedal power meter though which will be an uncomfortably expensive purchase. First aero bike and I'm keen to see how fast it is.

>>149891677
Jorgensen is the most loyal to Jonas out of all them, GTFOH

>>149893499
specs

>>149893494
straight swap for Aysuo

>>149893500
Belgians live in a complete fantasy.

What if Pog gifts the Vuelta to Joao? lame or no?

>>149893504
54cm aero frame because I'm a bit of a manlet. Ultegra di2. Fancy wheels, not the fanciest though. I think 30mm carbon or something shallow. It isn't top spec. But enough for me.

Debating carbon bars or just standard stem + bars for crash resistance and money saving. Tyres will possibly be vitorias corsa. Sexy tan wall TLR's. I don't know about pedals though, not sure which power pedals to get. Always ran a left hand stages. Ideally it'd be speed play but those are like 900 quid. I hate clipping in fast with shimanos.

>>149893550
two vuelta gifts in three years would relegate it from GT status. they would have to allow only hispanophones to start the race for a few years to bring back the magic

>>149893348
110 points

>>149893550
Unbelievably lame. You have to be a cute likeable runner like KUSS.

>>149893616
My problem with Kuss is he didn't have to beat anyone. But if Pog were to let Joao win he still has to beat Jonas so he's earning it. Still kinda lame but not on the same level.

>>149893591
The battle is over. You can see it because they're back to their regular levels

Girardengo winslol
He now has 5 stages out of 8

>>149893130
turks are so insane man. they would wave their flags at every corner of the world for no apparent reason

>>149893282
>Quäl dich, du Sau

bretty cool, 2bh. more races should do it

>>149892874
I went to the alps and pyrenees many years before I climbed this guy, it's funny because you can really tell for many people it's their first/only col so you see lots of people gassing themselves or ill prepared for the climb. I felt very elitist and superior when I climbed it, the problem is it's poorly located because there aren't many other mountains near it

I took off my deep section wheels, it gets really windy up there

>>149893890
>Ion COSMA
cool name

>>149893890
Bulgarians already doping in 1934

>>149893938
I halfway thought about climbing it when I was supposed to be on trip a few years ago and realized that climbing Ventoux with very little fitness in July would be ill conceived

>>149893240
didnt someone find this guys reddit account from like 4 years ago and it was primarily in steroids forums?

>>149894051
sí

>>149894051
"allegedly" one of his fellow mexican teammates.

>>149892229
Imagine your nickname being phonetically "poo poo"

Tdf is almost over :(

new thread >>149894373
new thread >>149894373
new thread >>149894373

>>149891663
TORRES Pablo placed in 76th position in Clàssica Terres de l'Ebre.

Did I miss something?