Thread 150008917

nice sport americans

>>150008917 (OP)
>half the people in the stands are either looking at their phone or looking away from the action
No wonder they didn't even react to this shit

>>150008917 (OP)
Baseball umps need to be thrown in a brazen bull.

Juuuuussst a bit outside

>>150008917 (OP)
reffies and umps are considered Gods in our country you wouldn't understand

>>150008917 (OP)
Could the pitcher hit the Umpire if he wanted a revenge? Or its impossible to hit the umpire here?

>>150009062
technically you could behead the guy but this isn't brazil I'm afraid

>>150009062
You will get ejected from the game by him but yes, you can throw a ball at the umpire
You can also intentionally throw a ball at the batter and they get a walk, which occasionally happens

>>150009090
Nice joke chikaner but i mean if he can throw the ball directly into the ump or if this is so hard its impossible to do willingly

>>150008917 (OP)
Is this the same dude who killed Yamamoto's immaculate inning a while back with pretty much the same pitch

>>150009062
You could if you wanted to be suspended for a game or two

>>150009124
yes lol

>>150008917 (OP)
good call by the ump

>>150009062
Technically yes, but it's hard to dress it up as an accident

>>150008917 (OP)
That's ball. You have a problem with that?

>>150009122
it would be an automatic ejection and suspension

My reffies (species umppy dumpy), undefeated all-time number one in our hearts and checking accounts.

>>150008917 (OP)
looked low to me

>>150009062
>>150009122
Yeah, I've seen it happened at lower levels, catcher just gets out of the way and the ump gets nailed.
The smart thing to do is to wait until the next day when the ump moves to another position.

>>150009122
the catcher will easily catch the ball if only the pitcher tries to do that
if the catcher knew that the pitcher wanted to hit the ump and agreed to do that, it wouldn't even be difficult but I've never seen it

>blue gays
kwab

>>150009062
I would just wait for the umpire and beat him up in the parking lot

>>150010041
>I would just wait for the umpire and beat him off in the parking lot
ftfy faggot

>>150009062
Catcher has to help
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM0HzMOT4nc

>>150008917 (OP)
Poor framing by the catcher. Gotta do better!

>>150010088
softball is unwatchable christ

>>150009701
>The smart thing to do is to wait until the next day when the ump moves to another position.
Based thinker

>>150010088
Lmao

>>150010113
>I'd rather watch men than women
Sus

>>150010133
that's clearly a little league/travel team game

>>150010088
ok now this is based

>>150010113
>>150010113
It's what I imagine harpies would sound like

>>150010262
>I love the sound of men yelling. Hate hearing women, though
Big oof

>miss spot by a mile
>Catcher catches it all fuckin weird as a result
I wouldn't call that shit either. Offense's bench and the fans would immediately start chirping whether it was the right call or not.

>>150008917 (OP)
Why was the guy catching the ball reluctant to throw it back?

>>150010761
the catcher was flabbergasted at the ump's call. A real 'hold up!' moment

>>150010601
>uh, the ball passing through the strike zone isn't a strike because... it wasn't pretty enough

Fags like you deserve Manfredball

>>150010761
Should have been the end of the inning.

>>150010770
I wonder what the story behind it was. Sometimes if an ump makes a bad call, they'll correct it on the next pitch with a "make up" call, but the reaction of the pitcher and catcher leads me to believe that's not the case.

>>150010786
>Should have been the end of the inning.

Scratch that, I'm mixing it up with the robbed immaculate inning.

>>150008917 (OP)
Why are the people back there AI generated?

>>150008917 (OP)
My staunch anti-Robo Ump stance is really being tested this season

>>150008917 (OP)
Seething brown angry at based jannyump

What happened here

>>150011258
A good analogy would be the cucurella handball

>>150011258
If the ball hands inside the square it's a strike, 3 of those and the batter is out. If the ball lands outside the square it's a "ball", 4 of those and the batter advances a base. This was called a "ball" by the umpire (ref).

>>150011258
Umpire being a moron.

>>150009124
>>150009138
He's working for the books.

i still dont understand this sport

>>150011541
>>150011643
So the pitch was legal and valid and the ump said no

>>150009163
>>150009251
>>150009678

no clue about American sports but I enjoy ref/ump posting

>>150012014
The team that is fielding doesn't want the batting team to get any runners on base. 4 balls and the runner advances to first automatically, 3 strikes and he's out. Calling a strike right down the middle as a ball is egregiously bad and helps the batting team at the expense of the fielding team, which is why the pitcher and catcher were irritated.

The count was 1-0 (1 ball, no strikes) before the pitch and should have gone to 1-1 after a strike, but it became 2-0, which is a harder count to work for the pitcher and a little more advantageous for the batter.

Btw if the ball is outside the strike zone and the batter swings at it and misses, it should be a called strike too

>>150008948
To be fair to them, I've always assumed that baseball and cricket were only invented as excuses to sit in a field with something alcoholic on a lovely summer's day.

>>150012985
It is. Before phones people would keep score of the game by hand (and flip through the game program the score sheet came in), listen to the radio with headphones, and talk with their party or anyone nearby. You'd see a lot of spouses with books or magazines. It's a pastoral sport that is balances by other, more action-oriented sports like football nicely

>>150008917 (OP)
WTF was Adley doing so far off the plate, that was the ultimate anti-framing job

>>150008917 (OP)
luv me umpkino simple as

>>150012560
Thanks m8

>>150014679
me in the back cheering on my favorite umpie

>>150014964
based umpchad

Boone (yankees manager) getting ejected for doing nothing was pretty funny too

is this supposed to mean something? what is going on in the video?

>>150015512
The "haha" part is when the pitch is dead center but the ump doesn't move to signal a strike

The box is unofficial, chud

>>150010133
>I'd rather watch clothed women play sports poorly than just watch porn, beat off, and get on with my life
Sus

whats the issue? looks like a ball to me.

>>150008948
yeah only one guy even seems to notice
soulless franchise no doubt

Baffling that baseball doesn't have an appeal/review system. Presumably anyway I don't intend to look it up to see if I'm wrong.

>>150008917 (OP)
Wtf am I even supposed to be looking at here? Only good thing that baseball ever gave us is japanese and korean female dancers putting on a show during breaks or whatever. Baseball is boring af.

>>150022337
Umpchad called it a ball although it was right in the middle of the strike zone.
Can you believe that?

catcher sets up outside, has to mov his glove a half-foot to catch the ball, ump assumes it was inside. this ump fucked up, but a good catcher can frame any pitch. if he set his body up a little closer to the plate center and didn't move his glove an inch, he gets that call every time.

>>150022364
Sounds like stickball would be better without umps then.

>>150008917 (OP)
Americants how was that ball when that was already in the K box? That was clearly a strike. Are the umpires blind?

>>150015213
Dude in blue in first row caused it.

>>150022316
There's a relatively new appeal system but it doesn't apply to balls & strikes, though there's a lot of talk that it's only a couple years away from that.
>>150022553
Umps are heavily influenced by a catcher's body language, perhaps to an absurd degree. The art of finessing your movements to make it appear that a ball that's outside the zone is actually in is called "framing". Well this catcher did the absolute worst framing to help his cause possible by shuffling so far to the side that he had to reach out his arm for something down the middle.

>>150008917 (OP)
I like baseball its fun to watch and bet a cheeky euro on but I despise one rule in baseball - the intentional walks. There should be a tradeoff on that, if you take advantage of an intentional walk you should penalized like the batter going 0-1 or the opposing team also gets 2 free bases if they are batting next.

>>150022914
>It's your fault the defense is being a coward regarding one of your hitters

>>150022914
I don't see how the batting team can "take advantage" of being intentionally walked when they have no control over it. If anything the defending team should be punished and the next batter should start with 1 or 2 balls in the count.
But even then, that can't be enforced because rather than using the automatic IBB system pitchers will just go back to throwing 4 bad balls out of the zone and can claim they just lost control.

>>150022376
No sport celebrates embellishment/diving more than baseball.

>>150024665
But embellishment is screwing up in this case

>>150009701
one of the funniest clips in /sp/ history, clipped to the perfect length

>>150022914

the tradeoff is that the pitcher, and the team by extension, looks like a bitch and a pussy

isn't baseball one of the few sports where you could completely computerize the reffing?

>>150012513
brother

>>150032151
this past weekend was the youth national championship event for a sport i referee, a few of us were in the stands watching and we unironically did this. just analyzing the fouls called and loudly saying why it was the right call. seemed to piss people around us off even though we were doing it for both sides.

>>150008917 (OP)
umps run this board

>>150014679
waist high, good call. dude's crouching to try to gain an advantage, bush league

>>150032173
based, i imagine hulk was sarcastically complimenting the referee or even complaining and the ref was sarcastically thanking him for the feedback before giving that card

>>150032151
Absolute based, they'd never allow it at an NFL game

>>150032179
I'm going to assume you're baiting, and also fall for your bait.

>>150008917 (OP)
missed his spot

>>150008917 (OP)
Ref is right I couldn't have hit that

>>150032191
yeah,

>>150008917 (OP)
Just make it a Baseball hawk eye and remove the judges.

>>150010088
based. moids would never; too weak mental.

>>150032353
it's not an opinion, the pitch was waist high

That is not even the most bizarre part of this sport. It is also so insanely random that each team needs to play 162 matches per season just so they have enough data do determine the best teams to play the PLAYOFFS. That is right, they also have the nerve to have a playoff for a borderline random generator sport.

>>150044655
>The official strike zone is the area over home plate from the midpoint between a batter's shoulders and the top of the uniform pants -- when the batter is in his stance and prepared to swing at a pitched ball -- and a point just below the kneecap
>when the batter is in his stance and prepared to swing at a pitched ball

Pleb

>>150008948
despite claiming otherwise baseball fans are extremely docile and retarded, literally any other sport would have bottles thrown at a ref for that shit.

Fans are never part of the game in baseball, its such a slog of a sport

>>150045105
Plate umpiring is fucking hard. It's not something you can practice hard at and be perfect. I miss the human aspect that we lost with instant replay, and I'll miss it more when balls/strikes are automated. The cosmic background radiation of random shit that happens over 162 games is what makes baseball baseball, and that includes blown calls. Players fuck up, umpires fuck up, arguments and ejections are had, but in the end it basically evens out because the season is so long.

Also, who gives a fuck about fans. I don't care if some roastie two rows ahead of me is more interested in Facebook, why would you?

>>150045063
>crouch down so your knees are up by your armpits
>literally every pitch is a ball
>1.000 OBP
why doesn't everyone do this then? the letter of the law is not the spirit of the law in this case. pitch was waist high

>>150012513
This gif should give you a good understanding of American sports.

>>150045241
Some kid in the little league world series did it years ago. His strike zone, paradoxically, became much larger than it would be if he wasn't acting like a fag. This is the fate of anyone who tries to manipulate the rules like that, and nobody complains.

>>150045133
i referee multiple sports and balls and strikes seems like that hardest thing in sports to officiate, while fotball is the hardest sport in general to officiate.

>>150022914
I don't despise it, but I do despise them allowing pitches to intentionally walk without throwing pitches. Batters deserve their chance to hit the ball, even if they're walking him on purpose

>>150045522
https://youtu.be/a6YzVvtxoaY

>>150045484
And if the ump had called it by the actual rules it would be impossible to throw a strike.
While it's not so extreme, Soto is the one taking advantage of the rules here, where's the line? I don't think it's fair that Soto gets to benefit from a significantly smaller strike zone just because he happens to have a more crouched stance than nearly every other player

>>150045063
Are you retarded? You just described where the pitch was thrown.

>>150045601
>And if the ump had called it by the actual rules it would be impossible to throw a strike.
The strikezone is set by your standing height and not your stance.

>>150045778
you'd think so wouldn't you

>>150015137
>>150014679
casuals put way too much stake in the batter box on the TV screen. The StrikeZone is a 3d object that occupies the space above home plate. just because the ball is one place when it is caught behind home plate does not mean that it isn't clipping the front edge of the strike zone as it breaks. it's the batter's fault for standing near the back of the box

>>150045889
fortunately it seems MLB wants to get rid of or at least reduce the presence of the box when ABS is implemented.

>>150032173
KEK based

>>150045303
>this gif
>.mp4

>>150008917 (OP)
Easy fix: Make it so the pitcher steps back after every batter miss.

Best fix: Turn this shit into a live game with 10 batters and 10 pitchers from each side running around the field all at the same time

>>150045495
I do baseball at a reasonable level (high school and JUCO). Balls and strikes aren't easy. Weirdly it gets easier to call when the pitches are high 80s and up. Don't know why.

I've heard from multiple officials that basketball is the hardest and volleyball is braindead easy.

>>150045778
You dumb nigger, I just posted the MLB definition.

>>150015213
Ump armor is pretty /fa/ 2bh.

>>150032173
kek this reminds of that scene from wolf of wall street where jordan belfort is on his yacht and he tries to bribe that fbi agent

>>150022337
you're lookin fine as fuck girl. how about i fuck your pussy

>>150032151
>American sports fans have no sov-

>>150045889
Yea those aren’t strikes though and you’d have to be a retard to think any of them were

>>150008917 (OP)
Smells like bitch in here

>>150032173
this needs to happen every time someone posts Hulk's car in /copalib/

>>150048594
I'd rather cheer for the refs instead of the Islanders, too.

>>150022337
please fuck my ass

>150048337
>150048703
>Jeet's best attempt at getting laid

>>150022337
Reckerass is in the jackpot

>>150009678
it was literally at his knees
but people will still say
>"durr but it was in the box so striek!!1"

>>150049505
that's above his knees even from a downward camera angle, very much so above his knees from the umpires perspective

MLB is investigating players for prop bets. Maybe they need to investigate a few umpires, too.

>>150008917 (OP)
I don't know anything about this. I don't watch most of our "American" sports. Can someone explain exactly what is going on here?

Where is the ump saying it missed? Did he call it low?

>>150050085
No. Faggot.

>>150050085
Is it even possible for American males to grow up in the US and not know the basic rules of Baseball, unironically?
It's pretty much impossible here

>>150009122
It has happened before but the catcher would have to sell it very well. Set up low & away and pretend you got “crossed up” meaning the pitcher threw a ball with different movement/velocity than expected

>>150050853
There are like 40M people in this country illegally. There are also 50-60M leftists who hate sports

>>150051017
>20% of the US population is “leftists”
based total retard

This is now an umpkino thread

>>150008917 (OP)
that's a fairly normal pitch to call a ball for an American I'd say?

>>150051226
Holy Kek! Were Dodgers fans seething when this happened?

>>150051089
Balk?

>>150052375
pitch clock violation, it was ball 4 anyway but the theatrics!

>>150051196
Holy shit what a doormat. Catcher or pitcher get to ask that, not the fucking batter. There's only one reason he would do that.

>>150046519
basketball is probably pretty hard, but i think american football has to be the hardest. although i do ref water polo and thats pretty fuckin hard too.

what do they even do in volleyball? sit in a chair and see if the balls out?

>>150057955
I think it's even easier than that since other people judge in or out. Basically stealing money from what they say. Football season is always miserable here, but somewhere pleasant I might consider it.

>>150032179
>>150045889
This. It's a good call. As if fucking TV editors had a better perspective and knowledge of the game
>>150045133
That same shit you mentioned has completely killed football (soccer)

>>150008917 (OP)
I'm drunk and could have made that call.

>>150009062
Players have done that before where a pitcher throws at an umpire and the catcher "accidentially" misses the pitch, but it is pretty hard to play it out convincingly as a true accident, especially if it is right after a questionable or flat out incorrect call by that same ump. The pkayer will also get instantly tossed from the game, suspended, and fined, as well as being grilled by the media reporters about it, and being called exrremely tight with zero leeway by every other umpire from now until the day they retire.

>>150010133
>he would rather watch some foid stick random shit into a gaping axe wound than a perfect male specimen with a big, beautiful throbbing cock that is demanding to be pleasured to a delicious climax
Sus.

>>150032151
>imagine doing this at a Chiefs game on primetime tv

ITS STILL FUCKING RAINING
IM LEGIT MAD

>>150008917 (OP)
Americans got the biggest dicks keep seething swiss army knife flag

>>150012513
You're based

>>150074603
Sometimes it really does pay to get the field level seats

>>150008917 (OP)
that was the most boring 18 seconds of my life

>>150075449
What is so unusual about a rainout?

>>150009122
>>150009701
>>150010088
Can't convert to webm because I'm on phone, but this has happened:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjhaS7NwpMM&t=80s

>>150045889
Determining the strike zone is honestly the only reason I can never get into baseball. Everything else seems easy to understand but when I just think I can guess the strikezone, it turns out wrong.

>>150076361
It will be easier in a few years when automatic balls/strikes appears. the bottom of the zone is easy, but the top is more difficult even though it has an objective definition.

>>150075818
>Can't convert to webm
Learn how to use yt-dlp to just download the webm that Youtube is offering.

Christ this shit sport is unwatchable
Pesäpallo is so much more better

>>150045958
>hide the "decisionmaking" to allow easier rigging
kek
why not just have a machine-assisted VAR have it do the reffing behind the home plate?

>>150032173
Hulk should give the guy in blue shirt card, he's the zebra here

>>150044815
How do you even follow a sport with 162 matches per season? It's the ultimate boxscore reader sport

The zone really goes down to the knees? By this definition the tv zone pictured in this >>150014679 is surely way out of place.

>>150082581
the zone on tv is just to give you a rough idea. most of the time its good but sometimes its a little off and can skew peoples perceptions on close calls
a few webms ITT are close calls where the tv zone isn't helping. the webm OP posted is a strike every day of the week though

>>150082763
Seems like they'd be better off just not showing it.

>>150083367
maybe but then we wouldnt get funny pics like this

>>150084606
>Poo Sox

>>150008917 (OP)
>6 to 3 game in the 4th inning with more to come
All according to plan

>>150082581
Cricket is the better ball and stick sport

Love me reffies

>>150078793
the point is actually to make it harder to rig when the ABS (automatic ball strike) system implemented
it will likely be a challenge system. ump is still going to call balls and strikes like normal but players can challenge the call. not having the box appear immediately on any broadcasts will make it harder for teams to somehow relay information to the players to challenge. the challenge has to be done within a couple of seconds of the pitch though so I don't think rigging is a huge concern. I think MLB is more concerned about a potential lack of suspense when a call is challenged. if the broadcast had already shown what the result will be.

>>150085530
Remember, a homerun in cricket is worth a touchdown.