been thinkin about been thinkin about posting again

We bout to bring Parsons home either this year or in April!

More TDs
More Wins
More Yards
More MVPs
More Accuracy
More Superbowls
More Passer Rating

>>150054514
>stats
don't care

>>150054514
Brady to start his career
>drafted by a team that was 8-8 and went 5-11 with Brady on the bench
>defensive head coach
>WR1 was a 30 year old who had one season above 610 yards prior to Brady
>WR2 was a returner who was just released by the browns with 1000 yards and four TDs total in the 4 years prior to Brady
>RB1 was a free agent signing who had just lost his job to a rookie the year prior
>TE1 was a UDFA that had 200 total receiving yards prior to Brady

Mahomes to start his career
>drafted by a team that was 12-4 and went 10-6 with Mahomes on the bench
>offensive head coach
>WR1 was a 2x Pro Bowl, 1x All-Pro that just had a 1200 yard, 7 TD season
>WR2 was a 4th overall pick free agent with 3000 yards and 25 TDs total in the 4 years prior to Mahomes
>RB1 was entering year 2 after leading the league in yards with 1327 yards and 8 TDs as a rookie
>TE1 was a 3x Pro Bowl, 2x All-Pro with 3900 yards and 22 TDs total in the four years prior to Mahomes including two consecutive 1000 yard seasons (just the 8th TE in NFL history to do so)

>>150054520
It's not just stats. He has more Superbowl MVPs at age 28 than Brady had at age 34.

>>150054523
You're still mad you lost that debate with Allen. Why don't you stick to your own QB you fairweather foreign fan.

If you watch Redditzone you're a bitch... AND you don't know ball

>>150054557
superbowl mvps by 28 is a stat, ergo, I don't care

>>150054495 (OP)
What are the implications of this?
Are we still getting uninterrupted football??

>>150054495 (OP)
Did John Taffer get an envelope?

>>150054566
>You're still mad you lost that debate with Allen
No I did not. I had shown that Mahomes had the better reciever coach and team overall and Allen still manages to come within 3. Even other anons posted the stats that show how much better Kelce was and you ignored or deflected.

>>150054514
i throatpie the elf, she likes that a lot

>>150054557
tell me why i should care

>>150054515
No fucking way the Pats have a worse record than the JEST.

>>150054557
>Brady had at age 34.
Why stop there?

>>150054615

>>150054515
If the Browns get more than 6 wins this season, I'll suck the fattest cock and smallest cock in /nfl/

It's really funny just how upset the Mahomes slurper gets when Eagles fans enjoy their Super Bowl win

>>150054650
lmao why did Spags tell Chris Jones to do that

>>150054513
The Cowboys can lock him up through the end of the 2027 season if they really wanted to. 5th year option this year, first tag next year, and the second tag the year after. The only way another team gets him is if he says under no circumstance will I ever play another down for the Cowboys, and I’m willing to put 3 years of my salary at risk to stand by that, and then the Cowboys believe him. Another team will then need to give a minimum of two 1st round picks to the Cowboys and make Micah the highest paid non-QB at the same time.

>>150054650
Heh

My Steelers :)

>>150054657
nigga won't even sit out of camp lmao he's not leaving any money on the table

>>150054670
He'll do a hold in and do the absolute bare minimum

>>150054583
>>150054602
>>150054520
You don't care about stats. You don't care about rings. What do you care about then?
>>150054615
>>150054621
>Why stop there?
Because if you're comparing two QBs it is best to compare what both accomplished at similar points of their career. Quit acting dumb.

I'm all for laughing at the commies and cowgirls, but this trend of athletes demanding a new contract when they're about to start the last year of their current contract is fucking retarded. You are under contract ffs. If you don't want to be on a last year of a multi-year deal, just sign 1 year deals.
This is so stupid lol

>>150054682
>Because if you're comparing two QBs it is best to compare what both accomplished at similar points of their career. Quit acting dumb.
And its best to take into account what they were working with. Hence.>>150054523
>5

Im Jalen Squirts and you're watching the mickey mouse clubhouse!

Someone shop a mickey hat on squirts btw

YEAHHHHH HERE WE GO

>>150054682
mahomes just dont got that dawg in him

>>150054694
Brady had 2 decades of the best defense. You won't mention that since your a disingenuous rat.

>>150054701
his wife do tho

Tom Brady at raiders training camp

>>150054687
I think you would see less of it if there was no franchise tag. Franchise tag is also dumb

>Andy Reid says Rashee Rice is "Full speed ahead... no pun intended"

Should Andy Reid get suspended for this?

>>150054715
hehehe yeah buddy

>>150054711
>Brady had 2 decades of the best defense.
And Mahomes has had 3 years of the best offensive coach with great weapons then transitioned to having a great defense. Whos defense btw held the Eagles to ten points but Mahomes is so used to getting carried by Kelce and Reid, he shidded his pants. Mahomes would never be able to run an offense with plumbers and Walmart greeters all by himself like Brady had to.

>>150054650
maybe one year the Eagles will actually beat a team they can ragebait but it isn't this one lol

>The only team the Eagles can legitimately punch down on and have it make sense still is literally just the Minnesota Vikings
ahaha
ohohoh
ehehehe

>>150054711
>2 decades
Wait I thought we were comparing them at "similar points of their career."

>>150054656
Don’t know but he fucked his neck up from it

>>150054717
Most players hang their head and should kneel.

>>150054744
A singular Chiefs fan has spent almost the entirety of the last 6 months posting about the game and how it doesn't really count and how totally mad he isn't and how Super Bowls are mundane now lmao. You can't gaslight me on this.

>>150054711
Wrong again Schizo. You weren't even around back then

>>150054817
heeem mahomey

Welcome to _________!

>>150054817
Wtf were the right guard and tackle doing there?

>Mahomes has had a different Left Tackle in literally every single Super Bowl he's played in
grim, and makes it legitimately even more impressive this guy is 3-2 in the Owl.

Tom Brady meanwhile

Dynasty 1:
2001: Matt Light
2003: Matt Light
2004: Matt Light
2014: Nate Solder
2016: Nate Solder
2018: Trent Brown
2020: Donovan Smith

Brady was lucky enough to win 5 of his 7 owls with two of the same people protecting his blindside.
Brady was a bigger oline babby than Mahomes.

>Donovan Mcnabb going up against the number 1 defense
>Scores more than 0 points
>Mahomes going up against a top 5 defense
>Scores 0 points

>>150054838
My Raidies

>>150054838
Realistically I only see him either in Dallas or New England.

getting a new left tackle every season or getting a new offensive coordinator, what's harder to deal with?

>>150054868
OC definitely

Question: How many of the Eagles 6 sacks came against Joe Thuney (Who was regularly blown up by a D2 college safety)

>>150054838
Welcome to a team for a second who then trades him to the Eagles

>>150054515
Everyone always predicts the Falcons to win the NFCS every fucking year and it's never them. They will never mentally get over 28-3. Just end the fucking franchise

Imagine having 11 different playcallers in 9 years

>>150054845
Not at all. He was sacked in key moments in every superbowl he won in the early 2000s and still won due to clutch behavior and consistency.

>>150054738
>>150054773
>>150054825
Chiefs were 1-14 in the playoffs with 0 AFCCGs since 1994 before Mahomes got there. Brady joined a team that went to the Superbowl. The elite defense gave him plenty of turnovers and short field position.

>Whos defense btw held the Eagles to ten points but Mahomes is so used to getting carried by Kelce and Reid
Brady had 0 pass TDs in his first superowl run and 1 INT. Don't compare him to Mahomes who had 10 TDs in the playoffs.

>>150054899
>Sack
Brady's fault.

>>150054845
youre forgetting the chiefs best oline player

>>150054845
This

>>150054657
>The Cowboys can lock him up through the end of the 2027 season
That was this year my dude, next year as in Free agency 2026, he's completely unrestricted and free of Jerryboy.

>>150054845
Why can't you accept that Trump fucked you?

>>150054515
doesnt look unreasonable besides a couple teams will def do better than 12-5 and more will do worse than 5-12

>>150054845
excuses excuses

>>150054657
the only team that actually does anything close to this is the Bengals and (((the media))) always smears them as a result. Every other team cucks out to these phony "hold ins"

>>150054738

The point the NFL was trying to tell us was we could all be Brady if we studied film, practiced, and had an IQ above 110.

>>150054907
>Chiefs were 1-14 in the playoffs with 0 AFCCGs since 1994 before Mahomes got there.
Tell me who got that one playoff win?
>Brady joined a team that went to the Superbowl.
And the response to this every time, which you ignore btw, is that team is a completely different team from the SB team. Different players, different coaching staff.
>Pete Carroll built a super team though!
Same super team that went 8-8, losing season with bill, and started 0-2? that super team?

Smear this bussy

>>150054872
Question: Was Joe Thuney on the Chiefs in 2022?

is Redzone still a thing? Is Scott Hanson still around? Is Sky buying the rights in the UK? I'm so fucking confused bros.

>>150054938
Do you know what the franchise tag is?

>>150054948
>Mahomes with HoF weapons and HoF HC in a weaker defensive gets higher numbers than the guy running an offense all by himself
Not sure what point youre trying to prove here.

>Bo N-

>>150054907
>1-14 in the playoffs with 0 AFCCGs since 1994
So Mahomes landed in a team making regular playoff appearances?
Rosterbabby

>>150054959
Question: Did Joe Thuney play Left Tackle in 2022 Super Bowl.
I'll be here waiting

>>150054963
Jerry doesn't.

>Mahomes was better than Alex Smith, that means KC wasn't stacked!
kek

Today, I will remind them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtNH7pZvABk&list=FLlLZ4r1dddtS_h9J6yktXqA&

>>150054963
>>150054998
If the Cowboys did this, this would just make Parsons sit the season out. Last thing the Cowboys need is to piss him off any further.

>Micah Parson chooses.... The Kansas City Chiefs

>>150055015
We all know COTY went to this man

>>150054981
Question: Do you believe in your heart of hearts that the Chiefs would have allowed 0 sacks if 57 was played on turf?

>>150055031
if he sits out he loses out on $23+ million guaranteed. He cant make that money back

>>150055045
I don't think about the Super Bowl losses beyond the surface level. Why would I when I could just think about 2019, 2022, and 2023 again.

>>150055015
Your coach is a fucking clown, and you're about to get your asses kicked in the wild card round again, if you even make it back. Vikings fans are retarded and never learn.

>>150055049
Then he will find a way to get himself "hurt" to get the money and sit out. The league had its fair share of stunts like that. Parsons could very well go full Antonio Brown on the Cowboys should he desire to.

QB Power Rankings

>Lamar Jackson
>Patrick Mahomes
>Joe Burrow
~Power Gap~
>Jalen Hurts
>Josh Allen
~Power Gap~
>Jayden Daniels
~Power Gap~
>Baker Mayfield
>Justin Herbert
>Matthew Stafford
~Power Gap~
>Brock Purdy
>Jared Goff
>Jordan Love
~Power Gap~
>CJ Stroud
>Dak Prescott
>Trevor Lawrence
>Bo Nix
~Power Gap~
>Sam Darnold
>Aaron Rodgers
>Russell Wilson
>Joe Flacco
>Geno Smith
>Kyler Murray
>JJ McCarthy
>Tua Tagovailoa
>Bryce Young
~Power Gap~
>Drake Maye
>Caleb Williams
>Michael Penis
>Justin Fields
>Anthony Richardson
~Actual Rookies~
>Cam Ward
>Tyler Shough

why do these autists take -20% posts of every thread to argue brady vs mutthomes will you retards just make a general already? you do this all day every day, how is this the most important thing in your life you are doing it for free lmao

>>150054514

>>150055009
>>150054978
>>150054523
Let's compare the decade before Mahomes and Brady was drafted:

Patriots (1989-1999)
>Playoff wins: 3
>Playoff loses: 4
>AFCCG appearances: 1
>Superbowl appearances: 1

Chiefs (2006-2016)
>Playoff wins: 1
>Playoff loses: 5
>AFCCG appearances: 0
>Superbowl appearances: 0

>>150054963
Micah might be the guy who kills the idea of the Franchise tag with player union protests. He just has that charisma.

>>150055060
Oh yeah about that

>>150055049
Also, if he sat out, I'm pretty sure there's a clause in his contract that would make him play an extra year.

>>150055074
1. Allen
2. Mahomes
3. Burrow
4. Lamar
5. Hurts/Stafford
6. Stafford/Hurts
7. Daniels
8. Mayfield
9. Goff
10. Stroud

>>150054998
>Jerry doesn't.
he tagged dak in 2020

>>150055031
>this would just make Parsons sit the season out
zero chance

>>150055069
micah won't even sit out training camp because he doesn't want to lose 50k per day or whatever, you're retarded if you think he passes up millions

>>150055079
your team has no prestige or legacy
buzz off you prideless insect

>>150055092
Where's Jordan Love?

>>150055092
Hello fellow Redditor! Have an upvote!

>>150055066
He's on the level of Dennis Greene and Bud Grant at this point, so that already fails.

>>150055098
Jerry was also 5 years younger.

>>150055092
>>150055074
https://youtu.be/M2Dd92qa9vg?t=718

>>150054738

>>150055089
It's wild how delusional you are about referees, that they live rent free in your head, every singular day to the point you keep an active folder of teams and players you dislike, just to associate with the rule enforcement because you're that much of a sore crybaby loser.

It's not that you actually dislike the refs, you just seethe about them anytime they do anything that does not benefit the team you're cheering for. Which is why you'll jerk off one of the worst officiated Super Bowls of all time in LV, because you creamed your shorts over Mahomes going 1-1 in Super Bowls his Jr year.

im thinking about reddit again bros...

>>150055119
You could, of course name a flaw instead of being a little bitch.
>>150055105
11 or 12 probably.

>>150055100
you are utterly worthless if you are most proud in your life of a sports team

>>150055120
Dennis Green at least had the courtesy of getting to an NFC Championship game before his retarded ass kicker choked the game away. Bud Grant at least got to 4 Super Bowls, even though he choked every single one of them. He's not even close to their level yet, this motherfucker can't even win a single playoff game.

>>150055141
Mahomes only having an 8k gap on Jackson with Jackson throwing to a Canadian Football roster and only learning that you're allowed to throw the football a year ago is insane.

>>150055098
Again, you can get "hurt" and then sit out and reap the gold. Welcome to the magical lopsided corrupted world of NFL politics.

TIMELY REMINDER
>A Netflix docuseries about Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys, titled "America's Team: The Gambler and His Cowboys," is scheduled to premiere on August 19th.
TIMELY REMINDER
>A Netflix docuseries about Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys, titled "America's Team: The Gambler and His Cowboys," is scheduled to premiere on August 19th.
For anyone who thinks today's events are real or have any meaning.

fraudulent ring btw

>>150055159
The flaw is that your power rankings are based entirely on narrative and conformity instead of having any idea about what you're posting. That's why I made the reddit comment. The website is engineered to assure that only the most popular narrative is visible to consumers, like you.

I had a dream Herbert tore his ACL in week 2 and Trey Lance led them to the AFCCG

>>150055195
>and set a record with eight first-half penalties for 95 yard
Enough about 2020's owl though

>>150055086
>Completely ignores that theyre different pat teams
lol. youd use the bills SB appearance to say that somehow Allen landed on a better team than Mahomes.

>>150055177
Do you really think the Vikings can't win a wildcard game at home with the years of build up they have at this point? That's actual retard speak.

>>150055195
He ran into his shoulder. The helmet rule is only if you collide helmet first. Ask ball knowers before making a fool of yourself.

Things are going great in Big D

>>150055199
>conformity
I have Allen over Mahomes and Hurts in the top 5 ffs

>>150055223
That's literally the Reddit narrative lmao

>Refs are why the mahomie lost by 3 scores!!
i thought it was his shit OL that only had two all pros?

>>150055221
he should go to detroit

>>150055228
Since when? Did reddit abandon the mahomie? he's the frickin mahomerooski!

>>150055212
Mahomes landed on a better situation than Allen the but the same is not true for Brady. Brady had an elite defense that gave him short field position.

>>150055253
Don't play dumb

>>150054584
????

which contenders can afford to trade for micah? i don't think jerruh would move him within the division

>>150055152
>one of the worst officiated Super Bowls of all time in LV

>>150055218
I don't know, can they? Motherfuckers choke and looked shook in both wild card games under O'Connell. He clearly did a piss poor job of preparing them. His playcalling was complete dogshit too.

>>150055254
>Mahomes landed on a better situation than Allen the but the same is not true for Brady. Brady had an elite defense that gave him short field position.
Mahomes landed on a team that was contesting in the playoffs, all one-score losses, usually unlucky meme ones while brady went onto a losing team. With a proven 2x SB DC that won those two rings off Brady. In the weakest defensive era yet. Brady had to face tough defenses that would chew him out throwing to Mexican street sweepers.

>>150055253
>hurts top 5
lol, lmao even
>Allen over Mahomes
yes this is peak conformity you madden normie, let me guess you rate Joe Burrow over Mahomes as well

Madden NFL 26 Top QBs revealed
>Bills, Josh Allen – 99 Overall.
>Ravens, Lamar Jackson – 99 Overall.
>Bengals, Joe Burrow – 97 Overall.
>Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes – 95 Overall.

>>150055274
Quite a few actually, but they don't want to give up a lot for rental Micah.

Unironically them boys have good regular seasons when “experts” say they have no chance
I wouldn’t count them out

>>150055274
I doubt a top-end contender makes a play for him. He's in position to get a Watt/Garrett type of deal. None of the contenders can afford him. He probably goes to a mid-tier team that peaks at wildcard like the Chargers.

>>150055276
Yes, it's statistically contains the most penalties in the 1st half of any Superbowl to be played so they could prop up Tom Brady's retirement tour like they did for Chicken Parm in 2015.

>>150055233
Why? So he can sign a new deal then immediately get injured?

>>150055300
you'd clearly sign him if you traded for him lol
>>150055309
if they don't have Parsons they actually have no chance.

>>150054495 (OP)
>Hansen fired, that punter guy put in his place
>4 hours of commercial breaks brought to you by draft kings
>8 mid-game interviews with coaches on the sideline by Marty Smith playing simultaneously
gg

>>150055309
I really don't care and I won't rate them even if they win 12+ games. I won't rate them even if they win in the Wild Card Round. If they can't make a Conference Championship, then I don't care because anything less is something we've already seen. Probably not even gonna engage with Cowturd fans at all this season.

>>150055286
If they play like every game is their last, like a superbowl champion is supposed to play like, then yes they'll win.

>>150055086
>>Playoff wins: 3
>>AFCCG appearances: 1
>>Superbowl appearances: 1
Wouldn't all of these necessarily have happened in the same year? Meaning that the Pats had one great year in the previous decade and then didn't do anything of merit since.
>>Playoff loses: 4
And this would suggest that these same Pats were getting BTFO as soon as their Owl appearance team left

The numbers you posted actually suggest that Brady went to a team that sucked

>>150055324
I might unironically protest outside of ESPN if they did that
>>150055299
>let me guess
I fucking posted my rankings you dork

>>150055152
>you just seethe about them anytime they do anything that does not benefit the team you're cheering for.

Imagine having the audacity to say that

LOL

>>150055341
I’m not saying that either
I’m just saying they seem to get a decent amount of regular season Ws when people have low expectations of them

>>150055341
>Probably not even gonna engage with Cowturd fans at all this season.
kek please don't. appreciate the favor, faggot.

I randomly blurt out that I deserve to be killed. I can usually wait until I'm at home but I did it at work today, everyone looks at me weird now.

>>150055293
>contesting in the playoffs
Winning the AFCW at that time is like being the tallest hobbit in the shire. That's like beating today's Panthers, Saints, and Falcons to win the NFC South.
Brady joined a team with players/coaches who were in the 96 Patriots superbowl and inherited the best defense in NFL history.

who gets micah

>>150055219
Helmet to helmet is helmet to helmet schizo

Explain the one Mahomes got against the Texans. Didn't even make contact with his helmet.

>>150055361
>Tom Brady is on the Winning end playing against 2 of the most penalized teams in Super Bowl history but lets put this on Mahomes
lol, lmao even!

>>150055351
>And this would suggest that these same Pats were getting BTFO as soon as their Owl appearance team left
49ers went to the owl. Then a few years later they made it back with Purdy, Then they lost the owl then failed to make it back to the owl the next season. Brady is Brock Purdy. He joined a superbowl caliber team.

>Brady only wins Super Bowl XXXVIII and LV because of clear preferential referee Bias
lol

When the fuck will my team be good again? I'm starting to think that Dylan Raiola is the only one that can save us.

>>150055411
OH NO! Anyway 5 > 4

>>150055418
>my team
which is?

>>150055392
They don't deserve it as Sanfagsicko is a degenerate failure in human experimentation. 5 is already far too much.

>>150055092
Give me a number. How many times is Mahomes going to have to beat his ass before you stop ranking him above? 5 times, 8 times? Give me the number.

>>150055315
Nigger they lost by 22 points and that's with the Bucs taking their foot off the gas to be polite. The Chiefs had zero offensive touchdowns. This isn't like when the Chiefs play Buffalo and the refs wait until some key moment and deliver a crucial call that swings the game. There were no key moments.

When you lose by more than 3 touchdowns it wasn't because you got a fucking offsides call (that's the other game he lost to Brady. Call was correct BTW). Cope, seethe, dilate.

>DID I JUST SEE JJ MCCARTHY LOB THE BALL TO A WIDE OPEN RECEIVER?
>HE'S THE HECKIN FRANCHISE
>DID HE JUST THROW A WIDE OPEN OUT ROUTE IN A PRESEASON GAME?
>HOLY SHIT, HE'S THE NEXT BRADY! JJ! JJ! JJ!

>>150055374
>with players/coaches who were in the 96 Patriots superbowl
>only two people that were on the SB roster were Ty Law and Bill
you just straight up lying now lmao and that best defense were on the downward trajectory until brady started

>>150055309
cowboys stink

>>150055423
......................The Saints

>>150055435
He's just a Bills fan. No one seriously thinks Allen is above position three, and "ball knowers" are already starting to knock him down to four or five. Most overrated player of this era by far.
Jersey sales MVP

FUN FACT: In Super Bowl LV Mahomes threw an interception as many times as he reached the redzone!

>>150055457
Damn. You really just need to tear it all down and rebuild totally. It'll be a great year to be deadline sellers and you should trade every shitty contract you can.

Micah Parsons going to bring pain and suffering to the Cowboys front office with his little revolution, hell he already got Lamb to side with him.

>>150055461
My precious Mahomo throwing interceptions in the Super Bowl?

Nooo he didn't have a LT!

Are the Cowboys really about to be paying 3 players almost half of their salary cap?

>Bookmakers are expecting the Dallas Cowboys to be a little better in 2025, as the team's over/under is set at 7.5 wins, compared to the seven games they won last season.
lmao

>>150055461
...HE HAD DIFFERENT TACKLES!!!!

>>150055461
Mahomocord ain't gonna like this one!

>>150055490
>almost
from last thread lol
>>150053983

>HE HAD NO WEAPONS HOW CAN YOU EXPECT HIM TO SCORE MORE THAN 0 POINTS?
>Brady had no weapons? Why didnt he score 50 TDs like Mahomes who had prime Kelce and Tyreek?

>Hey Micah, wanna help us kick up a viral marketing campaign for this? We'll make it worth your while.
Who says no?

>chiefsschizo defending mahomes' honor on /nfl/

>>150055436
>Team that gets 100 free yards from the refs by halftime snowballs their lead by the end of the game

Lmao. Brother in christ Brady won the most penalized football game in Superbowl history and won the game against the most penalized team in the 1st half of the owl.

2001, vinetari baby
2003 refballed in most penalized Superbowl in history
2004 Superbowl vinetari baby
2008 Superbowl BLOWS 18-1 LMFAO WILL ALWAYS BE KNOWN FOR LOSING BIGGEST GAME OF CAREER
2011 LOSES TO ELI TWICE IN A ROW LMFAOOO
2013 bailed out by Malcolm Butler would not have won on own merit
2015 TOM BRADYS ONLY LEGACY GAME
2018- goof gifted
2020 - more refball bullshit gifted retirement ring


This is why JOE MONTANA remains the real goat. Don't even get me fucking started on the rule changes since 1990

>>150055436
Yes the team where the refs refused to let them play football lost. Very great analysis lmao

>>150055571
Low quality b8

Imagine if mahomes had to play the legion of boom or the 2015 broncos d lol

>>150055571
Montana played on a stacked team when the salary cap didn't exist

>>150055592
4 > 1
>>150055598
>Legion of Boom
You mean the game Brady lost and had to be bailed out by Malcom Butler in? That game.

>>150055451
>>150054523
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Brown#NFL_career_statistics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tedy_Bruschi#NFL_career_statistics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Vinatieri#NFL_career_statistics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ty_Law#NFL_career_statistics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawyer_Milloy#NFL_career_statistics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_McGinest#NFL_career_statistics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drew_Bledsoe#NFL_career_statistics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Johnson#Career_statistics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otis_Smith_(American_football)#Professional_career

>>150055603
>Muh salary cap
the 30 different rule changes juicing up the QB and making it illegal to actually defend the football did far more damage than the cap.

so why haven't the bills signed McLaurin yet

Owl wins for QBs past 2000 are worth 2/3rds of a Superbowl ring before than, and Owl wins for QBs past 2010 are worth 1/2 of a ring in 1990.

Players that Cowboys coach Brian Schottenheimer mentioned when asked about guys who have stood out early in training camp:

RB KaVontae Turpin (4 31 forty)
>A star return specialist now being used as a RB
>“We’re going to get him the ball,” Schottenheimer said of Turpin. “We’re going to get him the ball doing different things. Kudos to him, my first year as a coordinator, he could not handle all the things mentally that we’re doing with him now. It’s kind of fun for me because I see him coaching Josh Kelly (undrafted free agent receiver), that’s how well he’s mastered what we’re doing. Game changer.”

RB Jayden Blue (4.38 forty)
>The Top150 pick out of Texas has been a camp standout. His lateral quickness, soft hands, and fearlessness in pass protection have caught the attention of both coaches and teammates.
>“He’s learning fast, and you can see him getting more comfortable each day.”
>"The quickness and ability to accelerate into the hole, it's just different. He's got incredible lateral agility and quickness. ... He reminds me of a larger version of Darren Sproles. I don't use that lightly."

RB Miles Sanders
>He’s been working primarily with the first team, showcasing his improved vision and pass-catching ability.
>“He’s healthy, and that’s the key,” Schottenheimer said. “Miles looks explosive again, and he’s leading by example.”

RB Javonte Williams
>“Javonte’s a powerful guy. We’re easing him in, but when he gets downhill, he can make something happen.”
>If healthy, Williams could form a punishing one-two punch with any of the other backs.

RB Phil Mafah
>Seventh-rounder Phil Mafah from Clemson has been a surprise in full-contact periods. At 225 pounds, Mafah runs with authority, often requiring multiple defenders to bring him down. He’s also shown better-than-expected agility and hands out of the backfield.
,>“Phil’s not just a bruiser,” Schottenheimer said. “He’s got a feel for space, and he’s finishing runs with a purpose.”

>>150055605
You mean the game where he scored 2 Touchdowns in a single quarter and the Shecocks only got on the 1 yard line by a miracle catch?

>>150055620
That's a moot point when the richest owners could by the best players like in the MLB. The Cowboys went from being mostly irrelevant to one of the best franchise in the NFL all because Jerruh had the monet. Which is also why the Niners and Cowboys haven't won shit in 30 years

>>150055655
>all 4 running backs "stood out"
what game is he playing here?

>>150055669
>The Cowboys went from being mostly irrelevant to one of the best franchise in the NFL all because Jerruh had the monet
All those owners had the money, and the Hershall Walker trade was a much bigger deal than the cap.

>>150055655
I keep forgetting that Schotty is the Cowshits' HC and laugh every time I remember. He was horrible on the Seahawks

>>150055558
This really is either a PR marketing gimmick that Micah is in on, or genuinely an unprecedented shitshow for the cowboys that could destroy their brand for years.

>>150055451
>only two people that were on the SB roster were Ty Law and Bill
>>150055617
>The Canadian fled the thread after this. Good riddance.

>>150055669
>The Cowboys went from being mostly irrelevant
Guess the 1970s cowboys don't exist.

>>150055558
ngl i'll watch this

>>150055617
>Drew Bledsoe
yeah he was actually instrumental in helping Brady get his first Super Bowl. good one pal. half these dudes were rookies in 1996 btw

>>150055733
That's why I said mostly

>>150055461
>>150055488
>>150055516
>>150055527
A side effect of Mahomes never missing championship rounds is that the rare times he does lose it's going to be in a championship round whereas Brady was getting blown out in the wildcard against nobodies. Rather lose against a Superbowl champ than a bum.
>Interceptions
Mahomes has more pass TDs than Brady and Peyton combined in the playoffs at this age. Now show me Brady's 5th superbowl stats at age 29, oh wait he couldn't even make it to 4 of them lol

>>150055794

>another mahomes vs brady thread
I hate you niggers so much

Show me Brady's 7th Super Bowl interception. Oh... wait.

>>150055760
>yeah he was actually instrumental in helping Brady get his first Super Bowl.
Bledsoe literally won a playoff game when Brady got hurt.

>>150055801
Afraid that's all that needs to be posted. That's all we needed at that point since Thomas Edward already proved himself before then.

>>150055617
>>150055725
>drew blesdoe
lmao you know nothing nigga you just grabbed players that were on roster. most of these dudes werent even starters on that team only ty law and milloy were starters, otis only played in 2 games in 96. thats what youre trying to own me with?

>>150055814
oh so it's a QB win when Bledsoe played but a defense win when Brady played.

Every time mahomes win its all him

Every time chiefs lose its cause of shit team around mahomes


Hmmmmmmm

>>150055844
You really expect a mahomo statnigger to actually know ball?

>>150055655

FB Hunter Luepke
>"FB Hunter Luepke went through individual drills with the tight ends and lined up at the end of the line numerous times," ESPN's Todd Archer wrote in his practice recap. "Schottenheimer has singled him out on multiple occasions in camp."

Veteran S Donovan Wilson
>Wilson is a heat-seeking missile when playing downhill. He is effective against the run, delivering impactful hits and instilling fear like no one else on the back end. He has six interceptions, eight forced fumbles, and 13 sacks in 60 starts with a Pro Football Focus (PFF) grade of nearly 70 against the run and as a pass rusher.

veteran FS Malik Hooker
>Hooker’s playing at his best right now

CB Kaiir Elam
>proving to be steal of the NFL offseason. Already has 3 INTs this preseason. Dak hates him

MLB Marist Liufau
>Two defenders are already emerging as standouts in camp: defensive end Sam Williams and linebacker Marist Liufau.
>“I worked a lot on my speed,” Liufau said. “That was a big thing that I wanted to work on this offseason, and also my conditioning. Knowing [Matt] Eberflus’ system, we’re gonna be running a lot, and it emphasizes running through the ball, and so we got to be in the best shape
>“I got a lot of work on the hills. I did a lot of footwork drills. Just to work on my feet a lot and my power while I’m driving. That’s why I did a lot of hills.”

>>150055895
>troy brown who had less than 300 yards and wasnt even WR1 counts guys totally the same as purdy landing on a team with the same offensive and defensive core, and same coaching staff

>>150055844
>>150055760
>>150055852
LOL you're permanently exposed as zoomers who weren't old enough to watch football. Bledsoe WON half a playoff game during Tom's first Superbowl run.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De8gmp-pFT0

I'm screenshoting your post for future use.

no papi please don't screenshot my anonymous spee post!!!

>>150055895
see
>>150055920

>>150055903
Kaiir Elam is fucking dogshit lmao watch his tape from the AFCCG he looks like a baby giraffe out there

Dallas Cowboys ‘boasting their best roster in years,’ says NFL analyst
>“While Dallas still must iron out an extension for Micah Parsons, nearly all the pieces are in place for this team to make a deep run.”

>lol the canadian got exposed as a lifelong bills fan of 4 years and didn't know Bledsoe contributed to the first super bowl run

>>150055844
>>150055852
>>150055886
>>150055895
>>150055916
Bodied that freak

This will be the season, r-right?

>>150055920
Apparently you don't understand the NFC achievement in 2020 and his legacy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRYidGSUphs&list=FLlLZ4r1dddtS_h9J6yktXqA&index=139&t=24s

>>150055932
>no papi please don't screenshot my anonymous spee post!!!
LOL look at this coward using his anonimity to get away with that blonder. You can get away with that, but not the canadian. He'll forever be known as a zoomer who wasn't watching football back then.

>>150055961
More legends of the Star soon to emerge

Travis Kelce is my favorite NFL player.

>>150055571
>WILL ALWAYS BE KNOWN FOR LOSING BIGGEST GAME OF CAREER

I like Brian Dawkins

>>150056003
that's ok, you've been exposed as a lifelong fan for 7 years or something so no one will care

>>150055976
blesdoe had worse stats than brady kek

>>150056026
Why are you posting on 4chan again Taylor Swift?
>>150055997
Max Kellerman respected Brady the most by mentioning his cliff theory. Everyone else was acting like what Brady did was normal, he's the only one who gave it enough respect to say this is not possible.

Chad Henne had a 99 yard touchdown drive when Mahomes was crying on the bench therefore he won the ring and not Mahomes

>>150056026
Same, he's our only Wigger hero, need more to step up because he's on his way out

>>150056053
That's one drive, not the same as an entire quarter of football. Mahomes was still able to play but the coach didn't let him get back in despite Mahomes protest. Brady was out and didn't want to return.

>>150056049
The point is, is he was supposed to fail long ago and came back to win in brutal fashion. If you knew football 4 and a half years ago, you saw everything.

>>150056074
>It's not the same because.. IT JUST ISN'T OKAY???

>>150055903
idk what they see in these safeties year after fucking year. they are utter dogshit and there are literally downroster guys who are better atp

>>150056076
wrong thread pal

>>150055392
>Brady is Brock Purdy
Based!

>>150056085
One drive is not the same as 2 quarters of football. Also, Brady couldn't continue but Mahomes could and DID continue.

>>150054514
My wife, Frieren, said nothing of the sort.
She did, however, say that you are a demon and must be culled.

>The canadian took an L today

>>150056100
>Bledsoe contributed 1 touchdown in a 7 point game
>Henne contributed 1 touchdown in a 7 point game
looks the same to me, lifelong fan.

Still has to be watched apparently because people here don't understand.
https://youtu.be/dQyIHG-_glY?si=yzeaf4rAlWXTy_x9

>>150056074
brady put up better stats and before he got injured had ripped one to brown

>>150056119
>otis smith 2 games played
>blesdoe worse stats than brady
you took the L little nigga.

brady and mahomes football are the same btw because no rule changes or something

its crazy how the mutt spammer made me despise the mutt even more than i thought possible

>>150056124
>>150056138
>>150056152
You lost anon. Just take the L. You didn't know that Bledsoe played earlier. Now you're changing the topic to "brady put up better stats than Bledsoe" You are permanently exposed as a zoomer.

>>150056185
the canadian after the loss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGZgMdlpTGk

Why couldn't Mahomes orchestrate a Brady-esque comeback against the Eagles? If you ask me, Mahomes should have adopted Brady's mentality, he should have shaken off the past and won that shit. I love how sports can extend to life bussy lessons.

anyway kelce > diggs

>>150056185
i knew he played. the topic was about the SB team and the 2001 team being the same. it wasnt. blesdoe doesnt count for coming in for half a game as a backup. same as otis smith for not playing in 1996.

>>150056173
The worst part about it is that it's all genuine.

The kiwi and Temujin will troll with dumb takes all the time but subtly hint that's not their actual opinion or that they're being facetious.

This schizo, every hour of every day, without fail, will make his retardation known and is a true believer in his own bullshit.

>kelce
lol
lmao

>>150056211
Mahomes 3peat was ended against an Eagles superteam and the superbowl MVP jalen hurts

Brady's 3peat was ended by Jake Plummer who went on to lose the next round. Brady was down 6-25 in the 4th quarter.

Why didn't Brady orchestra a Brady-esue combeback?

>>150056211
Give Mahomes 10-11 years and he might do it. Give him a perfect season. Give him a Prime Josh Allen making a superbowl. But we all know it won't happen.

>>150056235
itd be sad if it wasnt so fucking funny

>>150056229
>lesdoe doesnt count for coming in for half a game as a backup
WTF are you talking about. He won half of a PLAYOFF game. A contribution doesn't get more bigger than that. The guys who played in the 96 owl helped Brady win his 2001 ring. Thus my original argument that Brady had Superbowl caliber team mates remains true. You took the biggest L /nfl/ has seen in years. I'm going to bring this up in hundreds of future debates.

>>150056236
Why didn't they just call him a rookie considering he hasn't played a single down of his second year?

>more bigger
you lost

>>150056278
No, I don't think you will.

>>150056290
Because by definition a rookie hasnt finished their first season

The muttspammer has clearly lost in the marketplace of ideas that is /nfl/.

>>150056304
KEK

>>150056211
>>150056240
Mahomes is the most clutch player in NFL history and it's not particularly close. He's the only player who has a winning record when trailing in the playoffs. He already had a huge 0-24 comeback agianst the Texans.

The difference between Brady and Mahomes is that in the wildcard and divisional rounds Mahomes made comebacks against the Lamars and Allens of his era whereas Brady was being sent home crying by them.

>/nfl/ general - technicalities and grammar errors

thestarsyndicate
>The #Cowboys 2025 offense is looking absolutely stacked and has the potential to take Dallas all the way to the Super Bowl for the first time in over two decades. Let’s not forget — when healthy, #Cowboys QB Dak Prescott led the team to a top 5 offense three straight years from 2021 to 2023

>odds on favorites to land both scary terry and micah
ya im thinkin 13-4

>>150056211
>>150056240

>Most clutch player in NFL history couldn't replicate the most clutch performance in NFL history
something's not adding up here

You either learn from life bussy lessons like Tom Brady did when he led his team to a victory, despite being down 25 points in the third quarter on the biggest stage, or you can lie down like a little bitch and go 40-6 when the lights get too bright.
Personally, I think the former is more impressive, the former is more clutch.

>>150056278
>half a playoff game where any backup could have done the same job
blesdoe didnt contribute shit.
just like otis smith playing two games didnt do shit on that SB team. you dont know. did you know that the SB caliber QB led his team to a losing season prior and started 0-2 that year. Might as well credit Henne for keeping Mahomes alive with his one TD, because Blesdoe didnt so shit outside the drive he started on the steelers 40 because of brady.

>>150056360
Pete going to be laughing all the way to the Super Bowl

Just to put into perspective how old Jerry Jones is, here he is at 14 years old in 1957 during segregation. His kids should’ve put him into a conservatorship a decade ago.

>>150056326
He shouldn't have even won the divisional in 2021.
He shouldn't have even won the afc champinoship in 2022.
This was a long time coming from the Neegles, and I hope they never win again.

>>150056394
>nancy pelosi at kennedys inauguration
we need age limits

>>150056360
We're so fucking back bros

Remember when old man brady sent PRIME MAHOMES twice in the playoffs.... lmao

>>150056346
HOL UP

all in my ass

>>150056368
That's outdated

7 > 3
5 > 3
2 > 0
37 > 31
31 > 9

>>150056360
plz god make it happen

>>150056346
Siri, start the cowboys delusional preseason hype cycle again.

>>150056434
all, in my ass

>>150056383
The fuck are you talking about. The score was 7-3 before Bledsoe took over. He won that game for them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De8gmp-pFT0

> Might as well credit Henne for keeping Mahomes alive with his one TD
He was in for ONE drive and does deserve credit for hellping, but Mahomes returned and finished the game. It's not the same thing as Brady not being able to finish the game and having a backup QB win an entire half for him. Now you're just trying to win a debate.

ELITE. CLUTCH. GREATEST.

>>150056326
>Mahomes is the most clutch player in NFL history

The unfortunate thing is I imagine mutthomes continuing for some reason when Allen or Burrow actually deserve it.

>>150056443
all in my, ass

>>150056463
all in, my ass

>>150056360
would be super based if the raidahs took over the AFCW icl

the rizzler

It's not even fun engaging with the mahomo cuck because even if mahomo retires without ever wining another owl he will never stop posting cope

Dont run when it comes.
Stand up, fight back. Be a man.

>>150056458
>>150056461
Brady's 3peat was ended by Jake Plummer. Why didn't he comeback in that game? He couldn't even make it to 3 straight owls during his 3peat, what a clown.

Will 2025 go down as the greatest NFL Thanksgiving line up ever?

>>150056506
Jake Plumber is 3-0 against Brady

>>150056517
depends on if da bears get blown out or not

>>150056501
But I have to get 7 touchdowns to win, while my opponent scores nothing.

>>150056506
The refs weren't on Brady's side like mahomo

being a hat designer must be a job with zero oversight
these have been declining in design for years, but come on. This was made in 5 minutes.

Why was mahomes even still in the game down 40-6 late in the 4th?
I think this proves that using stats and stats alone as the arbitrary measurement of success and prestige is reductive. Stats do not tell the full story.

>>150056526
>Plumber
I'm retarded kek

>>150056493
>even if mahomo retires without ever wining another owl
If Mahomes retired tomorrow at age 29 he's already the 3rd best QB of all time miguel.
>2nd most playoff wins of all time
>2nd most playoff pass TDs of all time
>2nd most Super Bowl MVPs (tied)
>Highest win rate in Superbowl era
>Most TDs/yards per game

>>150056517
I see 3 blowouts and a spaghettib owl

>>150056476
Not sure what's more out of touch with reality, this or thinking Josh McDaniels was the guy to shape your franchise around

>>150056452
>10 passes completed
>started on the 40 that brady led them to and would jave gotten the TD for
>didnt do anything for the rest of the game
>defense and special teams score the rest of the TDs
>adam scores a kick
>manages to put up worse stats than brady
damn blesdoe WON that game for them
>brady throws for 300 yards in the snow after getting mauled all game
>bro refs and defense carried brady he is a bus rider
>tee hee carried by adam

>>150056517
Packers, Boyz, Bungholes and Niggles win.

>>150056550
>Stats do not tell the full story.
But it's not just stats. He has the most Superbowl MVPs and playoff wins at this age. He's #1 in everything.

>>150056574
I think 2014-2016 was better.

>>150056550
So he could stat pad
Look at them before he started chucking meaningless tds, they were some of the worst youll ever see in a superbowl.

**********at this age***********
blud, his career is already declining.

>>150056517
This is Goff's year

didn't Chad Henne have to come in and save mahomo's ass in the playoffs against the browns? I don't see how that's any different than what Bledsoe did.

>>150056580
>He's #1 in everything.
Including most SB blowouts

>>150056558
Wow you keep digging yourself into deeper holes. Now I have another screenshot to use against you. So you're telling me the Patriots defense is so elite they can win an entire 2nd half without Brady?

>Brady entered his prime after his age 29 season
>Mahomes is leaving his prime after his age 29 season
Interesting

>>150056596
oh also against the jags lmao

>>150056596
Bledsoe was in for 1 drive and Mahomes nearly got into a fight with Reid since he didn't want to exit the game. Brady couldn't continue and Bledsoe won an entire 2nd half for him. That's not the same thing and you know it you rat.

Remember when a final four was
>Tom Brady
>Blake Bortles
>Nick Foles
>Case Keenum
And Tom Brady somehow wasn't the winner?

Did somebody say .

>>150056631
Yes I do. I wouldn't have minded Blake vs Nick.

34 - 7

Tom Brady's first Dynasty was at the end of the SOVLFVL Super Bowl logo era, and his second Dynasty was during the Soulless logo era

Every Chief fag WILL smell my farts as they sleep. I WILL sneak into their poorfag trailer park and molest them. I'll stand above their drugged up, pube covered face and squat down. My ass cheeks WILL be pressed up against their face creating the most exquisite seal. I WILL fart directly into their mouth and they WILL inhale that moist, noxious heat directly into their throat.

Now with that being said, kill Mahomo and go Raiders.

>>150056606
Let's see what both of these QBs were doing around this age:
>Mahomes Won Superbowl
>Mahomes Won Superbowl
>Mahomes Lost Superbowl

>Brady Lost Divisional
>Brady Lost AFCCG
>Brady Lost Superbowl
I'd rather be Mahomes. If leaving his prime means approaching a 100% rate of making it to owls I'll take it.

Is it ogre for the loins after that pathetic display last night?

>>150056657
Your raiders need to focus on not embarrassing the rest of the AFCW all of which made it to the playoffs.

>>150055571

>>150056668
at best it'll be the same scenario as last year where they are devastated by injuries and get bounced in the first round

>>150056689
You need to focus on cleaning off the shart I left of you lips.

>>150054894
>imagine have different people tell you in your headset what to do
must be rough

>>150056668
Perhaps, but I think you should bandwagon on the Kangz because Mccarthy will win for the next 5-7 years.

>>150056668
NOTHINS' OVER JUST GIVEM SUMTHIN TA DRINK

My Donkies

>>150056601
>completely missing the point again
im saying if blesdoe wins, HE won them the game but if brady wins then its adam and the defense. how are you this stupid to not see it. blesdoe did what a backup was supposed to do and any backup could have filled in his position. and they would have won even more bigly with brady at the helm.

it all goes back to your argument of SB caliber teammates, SB caliber is putting up worse stats than a rookie? a guy who was supposedly a game manager that first year? then literally any QB could have been in blesdoes shoes. and him being on that SB team didnt mean shit, which is the entire point. you listed guys who werent even starters or played two games or even half a quarter and somehow want to act like Mahomes didnt land in a better spot than brady.

new untested team that was in a downward spiral versus a playoff contender with weapons an excellent coach, in a weaker defensive era. mahomes wouldnt even choose bradys starting situation, look how bad he looks without weapons and thats what brady had to play with his entire first half of his career.

>>150056596
>>150056614
Chiefs didn't win a superbowl in 2020. Brady won a ring from Bledsoe.

Why are St Louis people so into bowling? I'm from KC and now living near STL and I never figured it out.

The Steelers next HoF QB? From high school (gold & black), to college (gold & green), to now, Trey Lance has always been great when wearing gold

>>150056761
yeah nigga because brady and the bucs btfo them

I don't know who's more pathetic at this point- the mutthugger or the people who keep arguing with a mentally disabled brick wall.

kansas city bbq sucks

>>150056794
Is there anyone in that town that doesn't look like a fent-addict knocking on death's door?

>>150056794
saying "KC bbq sucks" is like saying American bbq sucks because KC-style is the default style nationwide

>>150056728
I think we should bring Trey Lance back to his hometown state and build around him as the QB1. Keep JJ as insurance

Remember Argentina used to be 85% white and the rest light-skinned mestizos
Many years ago, Europeans stopped coming and immigrants from Latin American countries began to come,mainly people from Paraguay and Bolivia.
Now the native population is being replaced by brown people
In Argentina all this is completely ignored
the kids are brainwashed by telling them that the argentinian is the mestizo
some people even deny that the country was ever white.

https://www.amren.com/features/2017/04/argentina-a-mirror-of-your-future-buenos-aires-latin-america/

>>150056753
>look how bad he looks without weapons
He just went for a 3peat and averaged a passer rating above 100 in the last 3 post seasons. Brady only had a passer rating of 100 a grand total of 4 times and he's been to 20+ postseasons.

>entire point. you listed guys who werent even starters or played two games or even half a quarter
Earlier you said >>150055451 "only two people that were on the SB roster" and I forced you to come up with a new cope. You didn't even know Bledsoe contributed greatly to the first Superbowl run. I'm sorry but you're going to have to hold the L for this day.

>>150056753
>look how bad he looks without weapons and thats what brady had to play with his entire first half of his career

Anon, the Mahomesfag is never going to acknowledge Patrick's exceptionally mediocre productivity these past few seasons. He switches criteria on a whim depending on what suits his argument. Basically, he thinks and argues like a woman. The only reason I'm sure he's not is that no woman browses /sp.

Maybe it's Jackson. That would be funny.

>>150056841
His passer rating in the last 3 postseasons is above 100. To put that into context Burrow has never had a single post season above 100 and Lamar's average is 84.6 in the playoffs.

>>150056819
Perhaps, I don't want this to be another failure. We've suffered enough.

If Mahomes sucks then why did the Chiefs go from being a literal who team that never won anything to being in five out of the last six (!!!) Super Owls right when he started

>>150056517
Archive this post and see how poorly it ages in 3 months.

>>150056814
carolina is king

>>150056836
>He just went for a 3peat and averaged a passer rating above 100 in the last 3 post seasons. Brady only had a passer rating of 100 a grand total of 4 times and he's been to 20+ postseasons.
And the one year Kelce doesn't bail him out he looks like a bum.
>Brady only had a passer rating of 100 a grand total of 4 times and he's been to 20+ postseasons.
Yes because he didnt have weapons for a lot of his career. One year Mahomes' weapons are lackluster and he looks as good as A-rod on the jets.
>counting people who played for 2 games and half a game and wasnt even a starter because he got replaced counts as contributing greatly
That SB team and the 2001 were completely different. The only one coping is you citing otis smith who played a grand total of 2 games on that 96 team and pretending like Brady owes his ring to blesdoe who played half a game in 2001. and no, i dont count the two L's blesdoe gave brady, if anything thats even more hurdles he gave brady, so that basically cancels out that half game he played, kek.

>>150056919
Nobody said Mahomes sucks, you disingenuous retard.

>>150056949
I say it all the time.

I like nfl and poo

It's 7:25pm in Denver, as Bo Nix pulls out his hard cock and begins stroking it as he walks into the VIP Lounge of Shotgun Willie's

>>150056841
>>150056753
>bad
Mahomes career has been nearly perfect thus I can't take any post seriously that says he's been bad. Each season he's taking turns going to superbowls, winning MVPs, or breaking post season records. Wait for him to have a bad season before critiquing him. Look at how crazy you sound
>"This Mahomes guy just went to 3 straight superbowls and won 2 of them but why didn't he win MVP in all 3 of those seasons!"

>>150056919
This anon knows ball.

What Mahomes will be remembered as.

Mahomes sucks (off men once they're finished with his wife)

>>150056973
but tua is in the nfl

>>150056919
strawman, try again

>>150056948
>because he didnt have weapons for a lot of his career
He has a lot of weapons in Tampa.
>2020
98 passer rating
>2021
90 passer rating
>2022
72 passer rating

Meanwhile Mahomes with nobodies was above 100.

>>150056980
>Mahomes career has been nearly perfect thus I can't take any post seriously that says he's been bad. Each season he's taking turns going to superbowls, winning MVPs, or breaking post season records. Wait for him to have a bad season before critiquing him. Look at how crazy you sound
Kek you sound crazy attributing that all to Mahomes. When Brady goes to SB's its his team and he was a bum that didnt contribute anything. But Mahomes goes to a playoff winning team that has had the same coaches and offensive core for over 5 years, its all Mahomes.

Look at what happens when Kelce cant bail out Mahomes, he has the same stats as Rodgers. But Rodgers doesnt have Mahomes defense, or coaching so he misses the playoffs while Mahomes gets to ride the bus.

Broncos QB Bo Nix: 'I want to be the best in the world'
Top comment · I really think he can be. There is something about the way the guy carries himself.

>>150057052
Special person, special QB

i'm sure brady watched pickett kneel out the super bowl plenty of times

>>150057052
>>150057084
https://youtube.com/shorts/ZQ4cSx90Fe4?si=Ts8c6fGNCvEmDVlE

My favorite bix nood moment lol

>>150057023
>He has a lot of weapons in Tampa.
>>2020
>98 passer rating
>>2021
>90 passer rating
>>2022
>72 passer rating
wow, 3 years after he is old and not in his prime, thanks for proving my point. now lets look at mahomes stats when Kelce cant bail him out.
>Meanwhile Mahomes with nobodies was above 100.
Kelce and Reid werent on the chiefs? Did they retire after 2018?

anyway 7 > 3

Anyways my 2015 bronkies would have heemed mahomo

>>150057046
we get it, you hate Mahomes, but can you at least admit that by consistently and constantly having to defend Tom Brady while Mahomes keeps encroaching on Brady's accomplishments year after year, you do recognize that he's at least the 2nd or 3rd best QB of all time already?

>>150057179
>you do recognize that he's at least the 2nd or 3rd best QB of all time already?
not even better than Eli. Eli dragged some dogshit teams and made some godly throws that Mahomes wishes he could have made. Mahomes won one of his SBs off a pussy flag. Eli just big-dicked all over Brady and Bill by juking the Dline and heaving it up in the air and having his WR catch it off his helmet.

2>3

If we're arguing a QB had the best start to a career ever, i don't know how you can make an argument for anyone other than Brady winning 3 super bowls in his first 4 years.

>>150054495 (OP)
nfl redzone is incredibly gay, i dont give a shit how many of you (you) me calling me a faggot. its the worst way that ive seen to watch any sport, specifically made for the adhd tiktok generation. the fact its popular on here is an indictment on the retardation of /nfl/.

the best way to watch nfl is to acess the condensed versions of games and watch as many as you can each week.

>>150057235
Best way is to get hopped up on stimulants and Marijuana then go to a sportsbook and VIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW

my boy mahomes just needs more hall of famers and ref help is all

>>150057100
Wrong!

my QB ;)

>>150057235
red zone is great when youre waiting for your team to play or there are a bunch of slopfest games on

>>150057298
>throwing to a wide as fuck open kelce
kek
kelce and reid bab

>>150057330
That's the Mahomie special

>>150057330
ever worse still is reid is a pick/rub bab. Layers to this shit

>>150057308
>he still has a team in 2025
lmao the state of nfl fans

>>150057220
I said best start at this age which is 29.
>Superbowl MVPs
Brady 2
Mahomes 3
>League MVPs
Brady 0
Mahomes 2
>Rings
Brady 3
Mahomes 3

>>150057377
so you're just cherrypicking lol

>>150057220
Because Brady sucked ass in 2/3 of those playoff runs.

>>150057378
i hate this fortnite looking ass scorebug

>>150057348
>Holding o line
>His receiver openly commits penalties to get open

And I'm supposed to think Mahomes is some great QB?
Nah

>>150057114
You lost the argument and now you're being disengenous. Rodgers didn't have the same strength of schedule and half his players injured. Mahomes stats in the playoffs are still elite no matter how much you try to ignore it.

>>150057046
>Kek you sound crazy attributing that all to Mahomes.
It's not me saying it, it's everyone in the media. Chris Simms calls Brady a defense baby
https://youtu.be/6SpbaZku6wk?t=50

Colin Cowherd calls Brady a defense baby
https://youtu.be/N28XTKIVSIU?t=66

>>150057373
Sounds like redzone is perfect for your type then.

>>150054579
the only kind of ball you know is the ones in your mouth BITCH

why is colinsworth in love with this guy?

>>150057235
shut up faggot

>Hello, I'm Scott Hanson and it's 2029 opening day are you ready for 7 hours of commercials being shoved up your asshole while we only show you touchdowns if you have purchased certain approved products? Good. If so, please press the acceptance button on your screen and agree to the terms of the $1 million dollar life insurance policy payable to the NFL when your fat greasy ass kills over. Thank you.

>>150057461
Scott would never

>>150057377
Now let's look after they turned 29

>AFC Championship appearances
Mahomes 1
Brady 8

>NFC Championship appearances
Mahomes 0
Brady 1

>Super Bowl appearances
Mahomes 1
Brady 7

>Super Bowl Victories
Mahomes 0
Brady 4

>Super Bowl MVPs
Mahomes 0
Brady 3

>League MVPs
Mahomes 0
Brady 3

>Seasons with 4k yards
Mahomes 0
Brady 6

>Pass TDs
Mahomes 35
Brady 308

>Pass yards
Mahomes 4,607
Brady 73,000

>5k yards or 50 TDs?
Mahomes 0
Brady 1

>>150057461
We're done since decades ago.

>>150057485
and with this post, the mutt vs brady cycle begins anew

>>150057485
>Let's compare 23 seasons to 7
No, let's not do that. We will compare them season by season.

On Lamar:
"He is a historically good passer," coach John Harbaugh said Wednesday on ESPN's Kevin Clark's "This is Football" show. "And that's really quite a statement because of the narrative that's been surrounding him ever since the beginning. Lamar Jackson can throw the football. He can throw it every kind of way, he can make every kind of throw any kind [of] way you want. He's as good as any passer that there's ever been -- and I think now the numbers are proving that."

"So that's the thing I'm kind of a little bit proud of, but [I'm] also a little bit like, 'OK, here we go, (what does that say about me as a coach that I haven't won a SV with him?) But Lamar Jackson as a passer is historically great."

>>150057427
>You lost the argument and now you're being disengenous. Rodgers didn't have the same strength of schedule and half his players injured. Mahomes stats in the playoffs are still elite no matter how much you try to ignore it.
Stop projecting youre being disngenious.
>guys that SB team and 2001 team were the same
>guys mahomes landed on a bad franchise! (ignore that Reid turned it around and was winning with that team while brady landed on a losing team)
Wtf, being on the jets is the hardest strength of schedule there is in the NFL. Stop being retarded, add to that he had no oline while youre complaining Mahomes is missing one piece of his oline, imagine having no oline. middle left right they all cant protect you. and he still managed to put up better stats than Mahomes.
>Mahomes stats in the playoffs are still elite no matter how much you try to ignore it.
He looked mid last year with no Kelce performing at peak performance.
>It's not me saying it, it's everyone in the media. Chris Simms calls Brady a defense baby
and mahomes is an offense baby that looked like poo without his offense. brady had to play with no help on offense for the first half of his career. mahomes would never, especially in that tougher era of defense.

>>150057485
Ummm... Mahfagos? Our seethe?

>>150057479
It's... it's over..

>>150057411
why? because you looked at the box score and didn't see mindblowing stats? he executed game winning drives in 5 of his first 9 playoff games including the first two super bowls. when the team needed him to show up he showed up. watch the games instead of the stats, it's a lot more fun.

>>150057518
You're right, Rodgers is the goat, he got the 1 seed and made it to the superbowl with all these injuries
>[WR1] Rashee suffered a torn lateral collateral ligament injured and missed the entire season
>[WR2] Marquise got a sternoclavicular joint injury and missed all but one game of the regular season. He didn't have enough reps with the team by the time he played in the owl.
>[WR] Mechole suffered a knee injury in December which ended his season.
>[WR] Skyy was placed on injury reserve in Oct and didn't play in the Superbowl.
>[RB1] Pacheco broke his fibula bone and missed most of the season. He wasn't the same after the injury.
>[RB2] Clyde refused to play due to PTSD and missed the entire season
>[TEs] Jody and Wiley missed entire season
>[CB] Jaylen Watson fractured fibula and tibia and wasn't the same in the owl.
>[DE] Charles Omenihu tore ACL and wasn't the same in the owl.
>[WR] DeAndre Hopkins was coming off a torn MCL and didn't have enough time to learn the playbook.
>[RB] Kareem Hunt was on his way out of the league when the Chiefs called him on his couch.

>>150057536
If he had the defense Mahomes had he would have yes.

>>150057532
people really discredit those games because like the mahomo box watcher, they only see the stats. where was that top ten defense when they allowed 30 points to the panthers? or when brady beat the brakes off the number one steelers defense. or how going up against another top 3 D in the eagles and still managing to come up with the win. theyre all really impressive wins.

>>150057518
>>150057536
SHUT THE FUCK UP
YOU DO THIS EVERY THREAD
I'M TIRED OF SEEING IT
YOU'RE BOTH WRETCHED FAGGOTS

>>150057536
>Only the chiefs have ever had injuries in the playoffs
kek pathetic

>>150057108
Kek Crosby bullying Bo is probably going to become a common thing because of this

Are these chud memes spamming spics supposed to be funny

"You want to win the game. You also want to play really well, you know, and we didn't do that," Campbell said. "So that's the frustrating part of it, but like I said, we're going to learn from it. We're going to be able to coach off of this tape and help some of these guys get better, and that'll serve us well. And I would expect us to play much better next week, these guys that played in this game."

>>150057536
>WR injuries
still had reid who schemes open WRs to be open asf.
>TE injuries
still had noah grey who was very decent and fucking Kelce who in the worst year of his career still put up 800 yards in the regular season and 50 yards a game in the post season and as the webm showed, still bailed out mahomes by getting open asf.
>RB injuries
kek hunt was still getting nearly 4 yards a carry, wanna put that success on mahomes too, i guess he just willed hunt to fill in nicely too.

and he still had a great defense that held the eagles to 10 points before the half.

>>150057614
Also, fuck mahomes

>>150057614
It was so nice here tonight without this dude here shitting everything up

>>150057621
Would the Lions have made the Owl last season if Campbell didn't have such disgusting teeth?

>>150057536
If anything, that only proves that they had no business being in the superbowl.

but yes youre right im done for tonight. its clear youre just baiting by saying rodgers is worse than mahomes for literally being on the worst franchise in nfl history. kek. im sure rodgers would gladly choose to stay on the jets than be on the chiefs because they had some injuries and kelce wasnt performing at his peak.

>>150057626
>>150057561
>defense
Mahomes never missed a champinship round with bad defenses unlike Brady who never won a ring without a top 10 defense. The same defense the canadian said won an entire half >>150056558 of football with bad QB play.

>>150057661
Mahomes had similar numbers to the 40 year old Rodgers who had just torn his achilles who played for the fucking Jets.

Somehow the Schizo thinks Mahomes is going to get better with age when he's actually been declining

>>150057726
see
>>150057536

>>150057656
>If anything, that only proves that they had no business being in the superbowl.
I agree with this. My Chiefs had no business playing in that Super Bowl. The Bills collapsed against us because they suffer from little brother complex. I think any team that came out of the AFC would have won the owl.

I truly loathe you vapid faggots

I think we can all agree that Sexy Rexy was the ideal QB

loathe this bussy

>>150057651
I don't understand how people can be so rich and still have such shitty teeth. Yeah, it's obviously dip-teeth, but you can afford veneers or even full implants.

>>150057815
im reminded of bidens teefers
theyre less realistic than my dads
so strange

Do Jets have the worst coaching staff in the league?

First time HC (Aaron Glenn)
First time OC (Tanner Engstrand)
DC Steve Wilks (black guy who didn't have a coaching job last season)

>>150057661
You didn't know Bledsoe won half a playoff game so you're also not aware of the fact that Rodgers played for the Packers who are a nicely run franchise (relatively speaking).
>Rodgers at age 41
12 playoff wins
>Mahomes at age 28
17 playoff wins

Enough said.

>>150057634
I just beat the canadian, I can't handle more challengers. He didn't even know Bledsoe contributed >>150055920 and got exposed as a zoomer

Mahcucko will always be 0-2 vs Brady in the playoffs

I can't believe Mahomes has done so well despite having a bottom 1 owner, bottom 1 supporting cast, bottom 1 OC, bottom 1 HC, and always the most difficult schedule in the NFL...

>>150057505
This is like when anime guys point out that the kid character they goon to is 1,000 years old.

>>150057870
https://i.4cdn.org/sp/1754090276186022.jpg

I'm not clicking that porn virus link.

>>150057892
Concession accepted.

>Tries to send me CP and get me swatted
>Somehow he wins when I don't click his malware

>>150057913
ZAMN!! I like him now.

First for uppercutting Mahomes on the chin until his jaw breaks.

I can't wait to post

NEW THREAD
>>150054495 (OP)
>>150054495 (OP)
>>150054495 (OP)
>>150054495 (OP)

in gamethreads again

>>150057966
too bad these posts get completely cucked by 4chanx

>>150057634
>Also, fuck mahomes
Are you the italian statfag. Why must we be on opposite teams. We both watch FtF and are statfags.

>>150057988
but that's why I think it's funny :D

>>150057966
Can you fix it please. It just takes me to this thread

>>150058003
I know your timezone just from seeing your dark theme and flag. Way to dox yourself loser nerd. Most likely an eagles fan.

>>150058017
cstGOD here, i also use the dark theme

>>150058017
my timezone is the only one that matters, any other timezone is irrelevant.

>>150058017
PSTCHAD here and I use dark

>>150058017
>Not making Tomorrow permanent on across all boards
Kek zoomers really are tech illiterate

>>150058055
pretty sure they think 4chan is the dark web

>>150058017
Schizo Alert

>>150058034
>>150058032
>>150058049
When I lived on the east coast I always assumed anons who were up late were loser NEETs with no lives. Now that I live on pacific time I realize how wrong I was. While those east coasters are sleeping we are eating dinner and chilling.

>>150058055
>uses tomorrow
>calls anyone a zoomer

>>150058082
EST is legitimately the only timezone that matters in the entire world. Everything else is just zone coping. Stay seething zonelets.

>>150058082
Learn something new everyday

>>150058083
I'm 29 and I use tomorrow because fuck bright screens how do you guys manage

>>150058017
oh and I forgot to add I am an Eagles fan lol

>>150058113
use this bussy

>>150058105
I knew about timezones but until you experinece it yourself it's hard to believe. This >>150058101 anon isn't being sarcastic, when you live in EST you really do think you're the only timezone that exists and that the world revolves around you. Now I'm on pacific time and it's still bright outside, yet for them it's nighttime.

>>150058166
Soggy and busted. Shant

>>150057800
Why did his wife/mom/handlers allow him to do that to himself.

you guys are retarded

New lore just dropped, the Canadian /nfl/ fan was exposed as a zoomer.

>>150058083
Burichan faggot detected.

>>150058166
but anon, I'm a bottom

are we being raided?

I just want you all to remember Trevor Lawrence.

Watch what he does this year, you’re going to be amazed. It’s Jaggie season

Do Chiefs fans remember Mahomo playing like dogshit in the Super Bowl? I feel like that ruined his legacy. He's nothing more than the best QB of his generation. In 10 years they won't even talk about him.

>>150058344

Let's be honest. This leap won Allen the MVP. His stats were not close to Lamar, he didn't have the 1 seed, and he didn't beat Lamar in the head to head. Beating the Chiefs who were on a 15 game win streak got him an MVP.

>>150058101
It's hilarious west coast cucks have to wake up at 9 to watch football and their Sunday night football is at 5:20 PM keky. BEast Coast wins.

>>150058380
I just recognize geno and bowers

>>150058387
It was to make up for Lamar getting mvp the year before when he just defaulted into it after all the front runners faceplanted in December. Over a longer term period it balances out.

>>150058219
and you help anons jerk off

>>150058387
I unironically think it was because of jersey sales. Lamar is only 18th in sales as a two-time MVP. Allen is 6th. The NFL knows they need to market white players because white viewers spend more money. There's only a handful of MVP wins that would have beaten Lamar's 2024 year. It was genuinely that good of a season.
Absolutely insane year to force the Allen MVP.

>>150058462
It’s a gay zoomer redditor.

>>150058456
No it doesn't, this is a dumbass take. MVP trophies are independent of each other. Purdy, McCaffrey, and Dak failed to have consistent seasons should not cause voters to collude against a top five QB season of all time.

Sometimes I forget Dak Prescott exists

>>150057846
Giants, or maybe Cowboys. Or maybe Saints.

>>150058480
Lamar didn't have a consistent season either, his embarrassing games were just earlier in the season.

>>150057846
Aaron Glenn is solid. Better than guys like Kellen Moore or Liam Coen

>>150058463
Bills are a small market. Allen is more popular and marketable than Lamar but Ravens are a bigger market.

>>150058519
Are you sure about that? Lamar did struggle against the Steelers and Browns defenses, both of which were top-end units. Purdy, McCaffrey, and Dak all had at least three unforgivable bed-shitting performances. You're either rewriting history because you don't like it or you didn't pay as much attention as you thought.

>>150058557
>Baltipoor
>not small market

>>150058402
a bunch of kwabs

Football promotes my alcoholism because I spend my entire weekend for 4 months just getting drunk and watching ball

NEW
>>150058576

>>150058576

>>150058576

>>150058456
>>150058480
>>150058519
>It was to make up for Lamar getting mvp the year before when he just defaulted into it after all the front runners faceplanted in December
Purdy and Lamar's stats were nearly identical that season if you factored in rush stats. Purdy had 4 more TDs but 4 more INTs. Lamar had more total yards. Plus he won the head to head. Lamar got the 1 seed too. He earned the MVP by being the last man standing.

>>150058592
Die.

new in a few
>>150058516
>>150058516
>>150058516

>>150058594
ya seethe?

>>150058594
y u cryin bb

>>150058560
this is such an undeniable argument I don't know why I don't see it very often
best player against the best competition when no one else could do the same
it's actually such an obvious mvp
the only reason people want to downplay it is because they care more about hating lamar than they do watching football

>>150058082
When you lived on the east coast you had no idea people on the West Coast were in a different time zone 3 hours behind you? In the whole east coast you had to be the only one dumb enough to not know this. How is that even possible?

Lions are going to finish under .500
Cap this