Thread 150109201

Is it true that France, Germany & Italy don't consider >us to be footballing rivals and that we're just another country to them? That actually hurts my fee fees.

why would they consider scotland as their rivals?

>>150109201 (OP)
Of course you’re not, you fucking suck at football, but you’re still a hated rival for other reasons

You have a tendency to self sabotage and select whoever the top divas in the EPL are at any current time

>>150109201 (OP)
>checks flag
there is no (You)

>>150109201 (OP)
Your only true rivalry should be with Ireland imo.
The countries you've stated are just "big games".

>>150109201 (OP)
Yeah. We consider Italy our rival. And Netherlands. But you dont really have a special place, Im sorry.

>>150109295
You mean, they don't know what they're doing?

>>150109626
Italy ffs...

>>150109457
>Great Britain v Ireland

>>150109652
Its traditional bro... you dont choose. But let me be real with you friend you kinda dont have enough trophies for us to care:/

>>150109626
I thought toothpaste was our rival.

>>150109201 (OP)
the english are so weird
in every qualifying campaign every other big football nation knows statpadding against shitters is completely irrelevant, meanwhile England pummels 5-0 Slovenia and San Marino on Wembley with 99,000 people in the stands and they're unironically thinking
>yep, we got it, we're gonna bring it home, we got it in the bag, the tournament next year is just a formality
lying to themselves and the media machine takes that feeling and inflates it further

such a weird pub league mindset.

>>150109626
Germs always say this and then froth at the mouth about us

>>150109717
Fr? Nah we have a long standing mutual hate thing when it comes to footy

>>150109626
this desu
Italy = football rival
Netherlands = meme rival
France = war rival

>>150109733
We literally dont. /sp/ isnt real life sadly. We do not consider you a top tier footballing nation because everyone knows you cant win (the men of course)

>>150109201 (OP)
Nevermind them, anon. Your true brothers lie across the ocean. The cradle of football is and will always be our most respectable and venerable opponent. Kisses from South America.

We could have been family but you left us and went to India and play cricket

>>150109732
But the ride is good

>>150109457
England vs Scotland is bigger than England vs Ireland both in football (rugby and soccer) and in geopolitics

>>150109664
It's usually a meme game because the best Irish players end up playing for England.
Also forgot Scotland, should also be your rivals.

>>150109836
Thanks Ivory Coast

ENGLAND 5 GERMANY 1

>>150109861
This was 24 years ago and I’m old enough to remember

>>150109883
>Hesky to Owen, Owen to Scholsey, Schosley Gerrard, Gerrard to Rio, Rio to Campbell, Campbell to Owen, Owen Gerrard, Gerrard to Campbell, Campbell to Owen, FIVE ONE!

>>150109696
>two world wars and 1 world cup

>>150109732
It's just fantastic to be British. That's what we're celebrating.

>>150109201 (OP)
You kind of are a rival, but it’s definitely not comparable to Italy, the Netherlands (that one is complicated), and probably France as well. But that doesn’t mean nobody cares about England, people know we‘ve had memorable games against each other, and England being a relevant country we have a special historic relation with also plays a role. So it’s not bad, but you aren’t quite up there

>>150109916
Any achievements you or your father actually remember?

>>150109201 (OP)
Yes, but don't feel to bad about yourself. You've defeated our team couple times (in its weakest era) which must certainly make you happy.

>>150110009
Yes, 1966

>>150109994
You made it sound even worse. Like we go "oh yeah... of course. England, sure. Yeah why not?", when counting our rivals

>>150110054
How old is your dad? And how old are you?

>>150109201 (OP)
You are a rival, but only an A-tier rival, not S-tier. Germany and England have been through too much in history and sports to not be rivals to a degree, but you don’t occupy a top spot in the public mind. Getting trumped by England in what is our darkest phase ever now might have stirred up some people, though. Before that, we kind of got cozy thinking of you as no threat to a degree

>>150110059
She's on her period. Leave her have the last word when you've made your point.

>>150110059
There aren’t that many big football nations, it isn’t witchcraft to expect people to name England first or second AFTER having named Italy, France, and the Swamp

>>150109793
Growing up in the early 2000's, Brazil was everybody's second team. It was crazy how many young, English kids you'd see in public, wearing Brazil jerseys. Don't really see it much these days though.

>>150109931
>It's just fantastic to be British
yet you get arrested for saying that out loud in London

>>150110071
I honestly don't think people care that much about Germany, despite the OP. Old faggots like Lineker maybe. It's great to play Germany, France, Brazil, italy, Scotland, Wales...it's just football.

>>150110103
No you don't. I'd be happy to never win a football match again if that meant I wouldn't have to smell a Romanian again on the tube.

If I personally had to make a tier list of our rivalries, it would be this

S
>Italy
We kind of have a chip on our shoulder when it comes to Italy in football. 1970, 1982, 2006 - too many promising games were lost. Winning against them on penalties in 2016 was a first step and things have normalized a bit since then, but they are considered the main rivals in Europe simply because we both have four World Cups. Germany sees itself as Europe's football hegemon, and Italy is the first threat. Many Germans love Italy for various reasons, but football is the exception
>Netherlands
This one is tricky. It's less about accomplishment than about our similarities and the fact that they absolutely hated our guts after WW2, and we eventually rolled with that. They are strong, especially considering their size, and we often acknowledge their impressive play culture as the counterpart to the stereotypical German efficiency and roughness. It's a sibling rivalry. But Ossis probably don't really give a shit about them. I might be biased here since I live near the Dutch border

A+
>France
Our historic nemesis in politics (starting with Louis XIV, then Napoleon, then Napoleon I, then both world wars), now they and we are what EU dicksuckers describe as the European beacon. I think the football aspect itself wasn't very strong until the 80s, when France had a good era and Schumacher crippled Battiston. Before that, it ran on old historic hate. Now it runs on this EU friendship-rivalry as well as the fact that France has become very good
>Brazil
From a German perspective, this simply is the biggest duel in world football
>Argentina
Simply because we've had many games against each other. Three World Cup finals!

A
>England
There have been great games between us and the world wars as well as football culture alone plus both our countries being relevant means there must be some sort of rivalry
>Spain
Recent phenomenon: 2008, 2010, 2024

A-
>Austria
Obvious

>>150109201 (OP)
You're just another European shitter place. You will NEVER win a Euro or a World Cup.

>>150109201 (OP)
we have no reason to be rivals tbqh, our historical rival is Germany although nowadays it should probably be North Macedonia given the level of our football kek

>>150109201 (OP)
We are your rivals dumbass

>>150116006
You're our overall sporting rivals, but not in football. We've only played each other 8 times throughout history.

>>150110313
Germany hasn’t won a match against Spain since 1984. There’s no rivalry; you’re nonexistent to us.
The only rivalry Spain can have is with Portugal or Italy.

>>150116353
>uppity cuplet

>>150116374
I’m not trying to be annoying, but what kind of rivalry is there with a country that hasn’t beaten you in 41 years? For some reason, Germany always chokes against Spain.

>>150116393
I mean going "youre nonexistent" is not true at all, I think there is some healthy respect going on. Its true however that there is no rivalry because we dont care enough about beating each other. Like there is no special hatred if you best us. Its just
>Yeah well spain is good.
Kinda interesting desu that we dont think about each other much at all aside from the Cucurella thing. My point is that rivalries have nothing to do with the sporting results themselves

we still believe, we still believe
we still believe, we still believe

>>150116006
Well stone the flamin cows, it's a pesky aussie. What do you want with football ypu big gallah?

>>150116430
You’re right, “nonexistent” isn’t the right word, and yes, there is mutual respect, and Germany has been more successful than Spain. But the rivalry is minimal. Among other things, because there is no off-field rivalry with Germany.

>>150116698
Having lost to Spain, a relevant European nation on and off the football pitch, a few times suffices to make this vaguely interesting from a German perspective. It’s not really intense, but plenty of people will remember 2008, 2010, and especially 2024. You not thinking about this is to be expected, you won these games after all
It’s some sort of lesser, newer rivalry from our perspective. But it might develop

>>150116353
>>150116393
Lmao. Why are you lying so brazenly on the internet? You know we can all research these things in an instant, right? Germany last beat Spain in 2014.

https://www.11v11.com/teams/germany/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/spain/

Surprised the rivalry with France isn't a thing at all.

>>150116816
>International Friendly
I'm talking about official matches. Who cares about a friendly?

>>150109201 (OP)
>0 trophies, (1 stolen world cup from the prehistoric era)
You're footballingly less significant than Greece or Denmark, who have won a Euro in modern times.

>>150116006
Ive never thought this. More like a cocky younger brother

>>150116816
I've noticed you guys value friendlies way more than others. I hate Spain but he's right here, that result is meaningless.

>>150109861
>>150109903
schland was already qualified before that game thoughbeitever
they even played 0-0 against binland as their final game
finland!

>>150116960
>Germany hasn’t won a match against Spain since 1984.
These were your exact words, so stop moving the goalposts. You didn't say anything about friendlies. Besides, you'd still be wrong. They beat you at the 1988 Euros.

>>150109201 (OP)
France doesn't really have any divegrass rivalry anyway. At most there was some one-sided beginning of a rivalry coming from France against the Germs because of 1982 (meanwhile, they didn't give a fuck), but that was mostly solved by 1998 (by soothing the boomers) and 2016 (by beating them in the euro)

>>150117058
I had multiple Englishmen (irl) of various ages ask me about what I thought of this game and how Germans cope with it. At first, I didn’t even know it had happened; and when I looked it up, I was a bit bewildered. As you said, it was a more or less meaningless quali game. From my perspective, their focus on it was strange
It still wasn’t a good look of course, any 5:1 defeat is embarrassing

>>150117376
2016 still feels like such a waste. Not that France didn’t win fairly, but Germany still threw everything away needlessly. I am almost as mad over it as I am over the 2024 handball
Especially since you then managed to choke against a Ronaldo-less Portugal, a team that shouldn’t even have survived the group stage. I was 100% sure >we would have beaten them, but alas …

>>150109201 (OP)
Tbqh I don't really give too much fucks about any other country to see them as our rival. To me you're cool.

I want to take an Englishman, bend him over, spread open his ass cheeks and slide my delicious Brazilian cock inside his bunghole.

It's unfair that only German males get to have the privilege of fucking Englishmen!

>>150109201 (OP)
For me, it's France vs ingerlel

>>150110096
It's because Ronaldo used to fuck trannies, that's where the magic came from.
There are no known tranny fuckers in the Brazilian squad today.

The game is gone.

>>150116374
>cuplet
>more euros than you
>far more tournaments won than you in the last 20 years (5 to 1)
hell, even we have more tournaments that you lot in recent memory (3 to 1)
KWAB
>>150116353
unironically what is your feeling towards us?
is it a friendly rivalry, a little brother thing, the biggest there is where every match is a must win or a national embarrassment?