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>>95841034
>>Previous thread:

Why does GW has a DwarfMarines scale for 40k tabletop but a perfect lore accurate scale on every other media ? (All videos, videos games, series, movies)

>>95846039
>fat-shaming should really be brought into the hobby
It should really be brought back into society, too many people are far to comfortable being obese.

>>95846042
>make bigger marines
>immediately upscale all regular humans as well, negating the entire point of changing the size of marine model
just another one of James patented genius moves

>>95846042
Regular humans would have to be too small, or everything else would be far too big.

have any of my games bros had the pleasure of playing the twist mission and/or the asymmetrical setups yet?

shits fucked imo, the asymmetrical setups would be great for a thematic game but those twist cards can really skew a game depending on the match up

>>95846042
Actually in those media marines are oversized, because people who like nu40k and numarines have some inferiority complex and want to be HUUUUUUGH, Hugh-mongoose!

>>95846042
Because the shit on the table has never been 1:1 scale with other models.
Like rhinos are a perfect example of this, they are way smaller than they should be when compared to marines. They are just scales down so you can fit then more easily on the table.

Also the fact is that the 40k tabletop has always been an abstraction, what you see on the table is only an approximation of what is really happening on the battlefield.

>>95846036 (OP)
cuckstodes fans deserved to be punished for their terrible taste by being hit with femstodes

>>95846036 (OP)
No TQ?
>TQ
Who are the fittest IRL faction collectors?

>spend hours trying to paint backdrop for tournament display board.
>looks like shit.
You would think after doing a hobby that is all about painting and making things, I would have accidentally learned some artistic skills...

>>95846070
human models are mostly still scaled accurately with the old models, it's just kasrkin are scaled to old kasrkin, which were tall as fuck

>>95846120
A big part behind painting is drawing. When you paint a mini, the “drawing” has already been done for you.

>>95846107
>cuckstodes fans deserved to be punished for their terrible taste by being hit with femstodes
Rarely the truth is ever spoken here, but no truer words have ever been spoken.

>>95846042
Kasrkin are like a head taller than normal Cadians. Because of reasons.

Post minis

>>95846120
Just trace it, people do it all the time, even for Golden demon

>>95846098
>They are just scales down so you can fit then more easily on the table.

Implying that is the reason for their size, and not just the fact that it was cheaper and easier for GW to make them smaller back in the day. This actually is the one thing they really fixed with the ugly primaris vehicles.

why do vehicle models with treads always have them exposed? like the lemun russ tank for example

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Do Genestealer Cults still "spread their seed" by hypnotic luring, pheromones and sexy times + genestealers kiss and ovipositors, or has that been ret-conned a bit and make more politically correct since the 90's, the old lore was perhaps seen as a bit rapey and non-con? Like I know they're their own wee army now, just not really their lore.

>>95846074
Honestly, scale is meaningless because they're never going to unfuck the fucking vehicles. They'd either have to make the infantry way too tiny or make the tanks too Xbox huge to play on a reasonably sized table.

>>95846137
i really can't see it as anything other than the venomcrawler with a gaping jawed asshole

>>95846081
If it was made by GW or has GW's stamp of approval, it is canon.
Giant marines in SM2 were approved by GW and therefore are canon.

>>95846146
To give them a very specific look, similar to WW1 tanks.

>>95846036 (OP)

>>95846171
at the end of the day its always fetishists championing this kind of thing under the guise of virtue

>>95846157
I don't care about canon, especially when it contradicts itself on Monday and pretends in never happened on Tuesday

>>95846149
It's still rape.
GSC still spread primarily through rape, GW just doesn't mention it because rape is icky and hard to sell to normie audiences.

>>95846137
Looks grim as fuck anon. What do you use for the blood effects?

This was the last mini I finished (although the base isn't done in this photo). I tend to get close to finishing something and then I move on, so I have a tonne of shit that isn't quite finished now

>>95846178
And it's based. Coomers won.

In lore terms does anyone in the galaxy stand any chance whatsoever against a Necron fleet? Or would it be like a Thunder Child vs Martian tripod situation where even though the humans are basically just spear-chuckers in comparison, a big hunk ‘o steel still hurts like hell if it hits you no matter how advanced you are? Is that what a Necron ship commander feels like when he sees a broadside of macro cannon shots coming at him? “Let’s try not to be hit by that…” Also is it a matter of the technological mismatch being so great that a lot of the Necon’s advanced tech is useless against primitive opponents? Like, quantum field jammers with no quantum sensors to jam, disentanglement beams which are a waste of energy disentangling many meters of plasteel, etc?

>>95846189
we need a return of augustus' horny police

>>95846179
>I don't care about canon
Too bad, canon doesn't care about your feelings.
Giant marines are accurate and here to stay.
Stay mad.

>>95846042
Those models are lore accurate scale retard. You're just don't know the lore. The shit on the right side is non-canon.

>>95846194
Even if I am taken they will never stop my coomin'

>>95846157
>If it was made by GW or has GW's stamp of approval, it is canon.
Proof?

>>95846203
Cadians aren't 7ft tall.
The model heights are inaccurate.

>>95846146
Ease of repair

>>95846211
Ease of destruction

>>95846183
you want to turn a light on in your basement anon?

>>95846195
>giant marines are accurate
But not canon!

>>95846210
Kasrkin are specifically said to be the biggest, strongest guys on Cadia, the top tier special forces of a whole planetary population, so they're all like 6'6 and those models map to that height.

>>95846151
The board should also be bigger, but they want it accessible to your average kitchen table, which has reduced in time. Which is also a big comment on affordability of things we used to take for granted. Frankly, I don't even have a kitchen table and just use a stool at my kitchen island.

>>95846193
BfG2 and stuff like the World Engine’s destruction would indicate that yes a Necron fleet can be taken out. They don’t usually have large numbers of ships. Plasma works best since it slows Necrodermis’ regeneration.

>>95846183
UHU glue mixed with Blood for the Blood God technical.

>>95846193
>obsolete monitor takes on three fighting machines
>destroys two before getting destroyer itself
Doesn't sound so bad.

>>95846210
>Cadians aren't 7ft tall.
You're right, which is why the cadian models are much shorter than the kasrkin
Nucadians are actually shorter than the old ones lol

manlets worship chaos for height gains

>>95846225
Canonized by GW by giving the game a stamp of approval and not telling the devs to change the height.
>>95846228
But it is never said anywhere that cadians are or kasrkin are 7ft tall or 6'6" even.
What you made up is just fanfiction, only thing the fluff says is that kasrkin are a bit taller than average due to some gene enhancements, that's it. However it never specifies how big they are.

Again, the models are inaccurate.

>>95846228
Nta but that's been debunked a long time ago

I remember when the cadian KT came out and people coped about them being huge by claiming it was some LOOOOORE thing when it wasn't.

But sure man, go ahead, pull out your lore, let's see it

>>95846236
Kasrkin are cadians.
Kasrkin aren't 7ft tall either.

>>95846253
Giant marines aren't canon, every instance of them not being giant shows GW's stamp of approval

>>95846234
The Martians weren’t soldiers, they were wildlife workers and the tripods were like farm tools, not war machines.

>>95846036 (OP)
Giga Brigette my beloved

>>95846267
>Giant marines aren't canon
They are canon.
GW's stamp of approval is on SM2, that means it is canon. You can try coping about it but it won't change reality.
Marines are giants and always have been.

>>95846137
>Post minis

>>95846236
>This shitty scale again
Everytime someone posts it I laugh, it's a mocking kind of laugh

>>95846268
NTA but the tripods were literally called 'fighting machines' in the book. Granted, that was just a human name for them
When are we getting total war: the war of the worlds, it would be way better than total war 40k

>>95846042
Right picture is just a manlet in the foreground with a high camera angle that makes a background figure look even taller because his feet start "higher up" when you angle down like that. Absolute retard.

Marines are 7 feet tall. Primaris are like 7 and a half, and that's the actual height you get when you measure an intercessor mini and convert it from 28mm scale, so it's accurate.

>>95846277
>SM2
>video game over miniatures
Kek

>>95846137

>>95846253
>only thing the fluff says is that kasrkin are a bit taller than average due to some gene enhancements
>source: my ass

>>95846301
n-no!!! i need to troonscale!!!! aieeee!!!!!!

>>95846036 (OP)
What am I meant to do with resin recasts again? Wash them? What was the reason for this?

>>95846224
i changed the contrast on the camera, was just fucking around with it

>>95846232
oh nice looks great

>>95846327
T-Rex pattern Terminators when

>>95846327
Why are you like this?

>>95846346
>T-Rex pattern Terminators when

>>95846258
Says they are selected for size and strength from the best of the best of Cadia, pretty clear that means they're going to be tall guys, 6'6 men exist IRL retard, let alone on a planet where everyone is bred for war in a eugenics program.

>>95846347
BIGGER MARINES IS BETTER AND IT FITS THE LORE EVEN THOUGH MARINES ARE SOMETIMES 'ONLY' 6'10

>>95846330
You wash resin casts to wash off the mold releasing agent.

>>95846367
Trooscalers are so fucking cringe man, holy shit that retarded conversion

>>95846355

>>95846137
Working on another banner, what should I write on it?

>>95846369
Gotcha, cause it makes it so primer or paint doesn't cling as well, if the agent is still covering it? Do I literally use soap? Do you go whole sprue or once the model is built?

>>95846355
I’d still buy those Space Marine Heroes Terminators if they were available….

>>95846391
warm water, soap, may as well do it on the sprue since it's easier to dry

Retards who think marines are like 10 feet tall miss the entire point of marines. That would actually suck for them and make them useless. The main thing that makes marines special is they're a battle tank the size of an infantryman. If you put them in open fields you're better off just using actual tanks, so the only thing they're good for is cityfighting, boarding actions, going into tunnels and shit like that. They're super high-tier shock troops meant to fight indoors. If you make them so tall they can't even fit in these places anymore, you've just made shittier, weaker tanks that are way harder to replace, because gene-seed doesn't roll off of a factory floor.

Fucking morons.

>>95846193
Oh yes, Battlefleet Gothic tabletop is canon and the Necron in that arent overwhelmingly hard to deal with, you just got to focus them down one at a time, they're expensive points wise so you dont have to face too many of them, they're rather weak to bombers, torps and boarding actions, no turrets, you can bait out their starpulse by slinging torps from a few frigates or something. Splitting their fire between arcs also somewhat cripples their effectiveness.
Nova cannons are still good too, as always!

>>95846384
stop it anon you are making us all look bad with your crazy freehand stuff

>>95846268
If the fighting-machines weren't for fighting and were ackshually just tools, then what were the crab-like handling-machines?

I'm stuck between spending my last 100 points on a naked trio of Eradicators or a Gravis Captain with Artificer armour

>>95846410
>and the Necron in that arent overwhelmingly hard to deal with
They are easily the most OP faction in Battlefleet Gothic anon. Are you playing some modern FAQ/Errata balance updated version or something?

>>95846429
Well what’s the rest of your list then?

>>95846404
Ok, I'll find a super gentle brush somewhere. Thanks anon!

Do space marines ever take off their armor?

>>95846429
probably the former

>reroll hit, wound AND damage rolls

thats fucked up

>>95846384
Neat. How long did that take?

What happened to /wip? Is it dead? Don't see one in the catalog.

>>95846428
Bro, they literally used bio-degradable gas to fumigate the humans and then steam jets to clean it up afterwards.

>>95846459
Now's your time to shine

>>95846447
All the time.

>>95846459
it was there today at least, maybe no one baked

>>95846429
grav cap with arty armor is apparently a "mini-ctan"
give that a try if you want to be utterly disappointed aside from playing memereens

>>95846384
I don't know how much space that could have for a snappy slogan that could still be legible, but seriously anon. That is some nice work.

>>95846454
I masked out a white circle and from there I think it took me an hour or so.

>>95846384
Kairos is watching

>>95846453
just monsters and vehicles
and only 2 shots on 4s 2 shots on 3s
its...something i guess?

>>95846447
Half the time in the early Heres Horussy books they are out of their armour wrestling in cages and stuff. And I think they weren't in battle plate during the big opera in Fulgrim either, but I could be wrong. But yeah, they do take it off.

>>95846137

>>95846482
I wanna do some trim and maybe some torches on it and there's still gonna be plenty of space up there. Picrel is the previous one.

>>95846221
You could consider that weaponry in the 41st Milennium is so powerful that covering the track up with a bit of steel sheeting wont do shit anyway, so may as well make it easier to fix rather than adding weight and unnecessary extra panels to unbolt.

>>95846502
i mean rerolling wounds is quite important for a s9 weapon, and being able to reroll damage as well is huge, could easily pop a vehicle in one turn

>>95846402
>they were available
Get them fuck the game

>>95846042
in both cases the marine is 8' tall and no more than that.

>>95846278
Beri naisu

>>95846519
jesus anon. That's fantastic.

Are there any Tzeentch daemons which actually succeeded in doing something against the Imperium AND getting away with it? Like that Changeling that infiltrated the Roc just to be defeated in the end. If a greater daemon shows up how do you actually stop it unless you’re the Grey Knights or a specialized Inquisitor etc?

>>95846447
Yes how else would you get them and a team of tech priests/ chapter serfs/servitors ritualistically putting it on

>>95846514
>knucklebustas

are these dudes for kill team?

>>95846550
technically all of them succeed

>>95846384
Something like "nothing concealed" or "nowhere to hide"

>>95846550
Aetaos'rau'keres probably. Tzeentch nuke bird.

>>95846278
Dark Eldar need some tanks or something before I would ever collect them, I find those daft sail barges stupid looking.

>>95846554
Yeah but with magnets I can run breakas or tankbustas too

What happens here?

>>95846301
>Primaris are like 7 and a half
Primaris are 8ft tall.

>>95846391
I do like a soapy dish soap bath, then rinse and pat dry. Some people say do an wee isopropanol spritz afterwards but I've never seen it make any difference.

>>95846447
yes, how else would they sleep, pee or have sex?

>>95846406
Marines don't fight in small spaces and weren't designed for it.
Marines are meant to fight in open air.

>>95846599
Oh OK I was a bit worried there, knucklebustas are shithouse. You could always get (or print) nobz so you can pick the tankbusta stuff of them and be able to run both squads since we need all the anti vehicle we can get

>>95846301
Firstborn are 7-8ft tall. Primaris are 9-10ft tall.

>>95846633
Doesn’t that put them into Custodes territory?

>>95846633
>Firstborn are 7-8ft tall.
wrong, it's just 7
>Primaris are 9-10ft tall.
wrong again, it's 8

>>95846656
Custodes are 15 feet tall

>>95846670
only the female ones, when they're riding my enormous cock

>>95846660
>it's just 7
7ft. on average, so realistically 7-8ft. Or so people tell me.

>>95846660
Wrong. Even onstabimbos know more about you on 40k.

Its 8.5 while heavily squatting

>>95846066
Upset over some fatty's jelly rolls. Emotional, like a woman.

>>95846433
We just use BFG: Remastered which just puts all the rules and errata into a couple of nice books. Theres no rules edits, and the only "questionable" inclusion to some die-hards is the 2010 faq/errata.
https://linktr.ee/bfg.remastered

Just tell the Necron player to stop being a wanker if he always turns up with 1:1 Scythes:Tombships, he'll get the message when no-one wants to play with him.

>>95846107
I like femstodes tho? Guess I'm just superior in that way.

>>95846600
Some say its a good laugh to visit.

>the absolute state of marinepiggies

>>95846680
that's not how averages work at all.

>>95846406
>[Citation Needed]

>>95846682
Why do prooooonters never fucking basecoat anything, and always leave their multicolor patchwork monstrosity on display? Buy a couple of rattlecans of grey car primer and tidy it up before showing the internet for fuck sake.

>>95846178
Oh no! Anyway, guess I'll just have a wank lubricated with your impotent tears.

>>95846633
>Primaris are 9-10ft tall.
>Tyranid Warriors, Ogryns and MegaNobs are 11+ feet tall
That's madness and we all know it

>>95846702
That's the joke. Whenever you point out to 8ft crowd that it's 7ft, they defend it with "that's just the average, so they can go be over 7ft" while ignoring the fact that just as likely they'd be under 7ft. Like trying to convince a taufag their females aren't big sexy cows.

>>95846682
Space Marines should have massive codpieces, I see no downsides.

>>95846687
How are nids?
Also how does the game play in general? I heard the sentiment that the first 4 turns generally little happens and then shit hits the fan left and right

>>95846682
>standing in a relaxed A-pose is heavily squatting
DYEL

>>95846632
Yeah if bustas were d2 they'd be great marine killers but as is there's no reason to not take all hammers

>>95846278
Always appreciate a light colored Deldar force.

>>95846682
>I'm right, this retard has my same wrong opinion!
wrong

>>95846742
No one ever relax like this smoothbrain fitlet.

>>95846682
What chapter is this?

>big mek
>no abilities that allow them to repair vehicles

>>95846733
EC could rock some really elaborate codpieces and it'd fit the aesthetic nicely. Make one that counts as his close combat weapon, why not.

>/wip/ is dead
wtf

>all marines are exactly the same height

imagine being that retarded and thinking 8 feet or whatever is something other than a generic guideline

>>95846753
>all human in all 40k medias are now canonically 140cm

Oktard.

>>95846784
good, now all the cool marines models will be posted here and will heal 40kg

Got My panther head and both my new Knights are out for delivery baby!

>>95846791
post one actual side by side picture

>>95846798
how furry of you uwu

>>95846784
I often bake /wip/ when the usual OP anon doesn't seem to be around but I'm at work and can't really whip up a banner for the OP.

>>95846798
>animal head knights
I think that's a bit too lame and cartoons but it's good that you're having fun

>>95846791
It's almost like people making the art don't read the descriptions and just make shit big because bigger is better. It's how we end up with mile high titans and shit that people take as gospel because it was in a video game as oppose to what's written.

>>95846193
>>95846410
>>95846433
BFG is not canon. Only elements of it. Newcron ships, for exampl,e have shields.

Anyway, Necron fleets are no longer OP. The Imperials are giving them a good fight in the Pariah Nexus despite being outnumbered and weakened by the Stilling. In the Indomitus novella, a single marine strike cruiser took out several Necron light ships.

You can always tell that Necron wankers are secondaries or newfags since they are not on the "pulse" of the setting. They go with outdated lore they heard from Loretubers.

>>95846738
>How are nids?
Fucked if I know, I've never met a tyranid BFG player! :D

>>95846738
>Also how does the game play in general?
It plays a bit like being the admiral who's absolutely convinced he's got this shit in the bag right up until turn three and four and the shit hits the fan. The opening turns are a slow churn of long-range pot-shots, somewhat glacial manoeuvring, and watching your massive torpedo salvos drift majestically off into empty space because you forgot your opponent could also turn. Then, it all goes sideways: ships are suddenly in close quarters, macro-cannon broadsides are flying everywhere, blast markers are piling up, and someone's flagship has exploded after a single lucky critical and its probably your own. When your not squinting at fire arcs or digging through the rulebook for that one obscure rule clarification, it genuinely feels like commanding city sized cathedral-warships in a fleet engagement. It's more about clever movement and timing than sheer overwhelming firepower, so when your perfectly executed pincer and torpedo attack actually does work (for once), it's immensely satisfying but don't be surprised when the Nuffle decides to spit in your face regardless on the next broadside. It's a brilliant game, if you've got the patience for somewhat crunchy rules, you'll love it (although compared to 40K, its fairly simple). Just don't expect it to be quick, or remotely fair, it really will punish you if you are new to the game and you optimistically fuck up your special orders.

>>95846682
I have no idea who she is but she has or is doing onlyfans for sure

>>95846853
Oh its very cartoonish, gives off a Power Rangers Megazords vibe but I love it.

>>95846864
>BFG is not canon. Only elements of it. Newcron ships, for exampl,e have shields.
Its canon to me until they get their finger out of their arse and make Battlefleet Gothic II like they should have done years ago. :)

>mfw still trying to squeeze Rubrics in but either 1985 or 2005 points every list I try

>>95846864
>since they are not on the "pulse" of the setting. They go with outdated lore they heard from Loretubers.
Personally I find a lot of the "nu-lore" somewhat boring, I might keep on top of the Imperial side of things but fucked if I'm ever going to read a Tau or Eldar novel.

>>95846886
So just go with 1985, 15pts isn’t going to make or break the game for you anon. You dont have to hit the points limit on the money, this is 10th Edition. Just be glad its not power level.

>>95846795
There's an anon that paints fantastic Black Templars in /wip/ but he doesn't post here. Hard to blame him tho lmao

What does Geralt think of female custodes?
Will he buy?

>>95846907
Most recent idea is that I can save 20 points running a sorcerer in termi armor (80 points) instead of regular lord in termi armor with the psyker keyword slapped on it with cabal enhancement, but that seems like quite the downgrade doesn't it?

>>95846279
Everytime i keep seeing old Cadians i realize how brainwashed people have been for all those years. How did GW manage to convince people that these guys are acceptable human sculpts?

Guy Thorpe gets removed from writing Eldar books when?

>>95846384
>>95847011
Gav*

>>95846954
But the old ones looked way better than the new ones. "Realistic" lanklet proportion nuscale fucking sucks

>>95847011
Gav was replaced by Mike Broocks wrote a couple of Aeldari/Drukhari novels and is writing more for them.

>>95847011
When they stop hitting sales benchmarks. Stop buying things you don't like.

>>95846886
poost list

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>95847027
>Mike Broocks
>Trade shit writer for a worse writer
I know this man add trannies into his books and wrote that Dark Eldar book last year where she's now a lesbian but is it true he's actually writing Craftworld Eldar books now?

>>95847067
Speaking of Eldar, aren't the Dark Eldar books by Andy Chambers considered some of the best written books for 40k? If so, why not have him be the writer for Eldar books?

>>95847047
Cabal of chaos list for 1985 points:
>2x10 traitors
>10 legionaries and 1 sorcerer
>10 legionaries in a rhino
>10 possessed with 1 master of possession (+Lance)
>1 walking daemon prince (+infernal avatar)
>1 helbrute, 1 predator and 5 havocs
>10 terminators with 1 terminator lord (+psyker)
Ideally the idea would be to replace the 10 legionaries in the rhino with 10 rubrics.
I guess one enhancement will have to go, or will have to downgrade the juiced up termi lord into a termi sorcerer, but they're very solid so it's annoying.

>>95847104
Andy Chambers doesn't work for GW anymore. He left around 6th edition.

>>95847011
You got your wish. Gav writes for other factions now, most notably Votann. He's still going to screw the Eldar over in side plots though.

Only three more dataslates left until 11th edition! What are (You)r expectations for (You)r armies?

>>95847129
"Hello Andy, would you like a fat stack of cash in exchange for re-vamping the Eldar lore in a non-cringe fashion"?
The man always has a lot of opinions and insights about 40K whenever I ever hear him on a podcast, he could certainly still do it, and he seems to be freelancing for the most part. Shit its not like GW is strapped for cash.

>>95847117
>>2x10 traitors
pls tell me you're not wasting 140 points on 20 dudes with lasguns

Would you get a 40K tattoo /40kg/?

Is Devastation of Baal any good? I like Guy Haley’s writing in the Dark Imperium trilogy, but there was the odd chapter or scene that felt like he was trying to advertise a faction rather than progress the story.

>>95847163
Not a single significant change.
If GW didn't fix Brood brothers now there's no way they'll change them later. GSC are considered a perfectly balanced army by GW.

>>95846098

>>95847197
>not wasting points
>20 dudes with lasguns
Its thematic and cool. Fuck nu-hammer, god its so waacfaggy

>>95847163
In 11th I think Orks will get a lot like new plastics of the Legends'd named characters but be cursed with a 3rd boyz type unit that is way overpowered. Fingers crossed for a plastic battle tank or squiggoth possibly.

>>95847197
I'm the anon you were replying to. They each have 3 specialists (sniper flamer plasma gun), sergeants have a boltgun

>>95847214
it's missing space for 3 marines though.

>>95846137
My box arrived today, looking forward painting the new dudes

>>95847163
At some point Space Marine scouts will hit 80 pts

>>95846137

>>95846896
>>95846864
Thats because nulore making everything equal makes it less interesting. Theres a reason why Halo's Covenant War is so interesting as a setting, Humanity is so hopelessly outgunned it adds natural gravitas to any fleet engagement. If Imperial ships can nuke necron ones just fine it's just a space war like any other. Asymmetry is a key part of the spicy sauce that is mankind against a hostile galaxy narratives.

>>95847214
Rhino height: 3.6 metres.
Space marine height: 2 metres.

Clearly something’s out of whack there, Rhino should be about 130% the size it currently is.

>>95847232
The sergeant rides shotgun (on the left, it's right hand drive because bongs).

>>95846107
Femstodes are actually cool and fit the faction well though. If it's noble children being converted than its the nobility that matters, not the sex. I like giga ingrid. I would be extremely pissed if they made female space marines, but Custodes aren't space marines and it actually has narrative and aesthetic utility to differentiate them from marines more. Custodes aren't practical but expensive luxurious super humans, unlike marines who hare extremely efficient workhorses.

>>95847214
There's a better version.

>>95847260
Yea, they said that in 1992 you newfag. None of the Imperium / Marine vehicles are scaled for the miniatures. True scale they would be much bigger, but also more expensive and impractical for the board game part of the hobby.

>>95847260
Yes. Exactly.
Every video game and series has the right rhino size tho.
Only the plastic one is 1:75 instead of 1:60.

>>95847259
Zoomers wont even know what that collection of ceiling decorations (just add string!) in your picture even is. My nephew cant even comprehend a landline that isn’t wireless or why you would want one. :D

>>95847260
>Average human height, 1.8m
>M113 APC height, 2.5m
Out of scale, should be 4 meters

>>95847267
What, so does it have 4 small engines in the track bits or what?

>>95847203
One day, big ol Avatar on my back.

>>95847304
It has four engines right near each exhaust pipe yes

>>95847259
Or... OR the current trannycrons aren't a big a threat as they used to be or necronfags desperately wish they were.

>>95847211
It is very fun
It also has a great depiction of tyranids

>>95847340
>le bolter porn author agrees with my delusions!!
You are living on necron land.

So a CSM Sorcerer can't lead a group of allied Rubrics? Isn't that a bit weird?

>>95847329
>Can be powered by electricity
>runs on electric motors in a pinch
>still uses some weird 4 way direct-drive driveshaft lockable diff configuration for normal running.
Man they really are tech-retards in the future, why not just make it like a diesel electric locomotive, only the diesel bit is replaced with these "adaptable thermic combustor reactors"? Rip all that extra unnecessary shit out.

>>95847374
Weren't they based on tractors? I imagine a lot of that stuff was for low range farm shit

>>95846193
In the Word Bearers trilogy, a single Necron tomb ship easily destroys a moon-sized DaoT star fort. Granted, it is probably meant to have the firepower of an entire fleet since it is massive and flues solo.

>>95846873
How hard is it for more "melee" and boarding armies to play?

>>95847381
Nope. Predators even were actual DAoT era battle tanks.

>>95847340
>Or... OR the current trannycrons aren't a big a threat as they used to be
Did you not read my post? Thats exactly what I'm complaining about.

Overpowered Necrons is more narratively interesting and fits their personality well. It lets you tell Imperial perspective stories about impossible battles and lets you make the victories extremely hard fought and filled with le grimderp overwhelming loss which is the whole reason to be into 40k in the first place.

If I wanted sanitized and equitable war zones I would read star wars novels or some shit (yucky)

>>95847374
Electric engines are shit, it literally says they are the backup of the backup.

>>95847239
Have fun brother, AWOO!

>>95847369
welcome to 10th edition hoe

to add fuel to the fire

>>95847406
don't modern tanks use hybrid engines so they can shut off the turbine when they need stealth

>>95847369
Its because the cult legion datasheets in CSM are basically there as allies. I agree its a bit awkward but they dont let you take a Tsons specific sorcerer to lead them so the lore would be they are loners to a generic chaos warband from the tsons who are their own seperate thing. Be grateful they have the Heretic Astartes keyword at all so strats can work on them. If it was how Agents work they would have no keywords and you could use no detachment relevant starts on them.

>>95846193
Necron ships are all mega elites. But they can be overwhelmed, specially if necron leadership is not up to the task or they are controlled by their autonomous spirits, which are too rigid to adapt to battles in time.
Rest of the time necrons just have the better everything tech, their basic cannons are devastating and their fighters and bombers move like the crazed gravity defying death machines they are.

>>95847374
GW writers and designers are quite obviously not engineers. And they never have been.

>>95847408
ugly models. ywnb on the fridge

>>95847416
Yes, some, but again that's a backup.
Batteries are mostly important for electronic components and that's it

>>95847409
It's OK the solution was revealed to me in a dream.
10 traitors instead of 20 lets me switch the 10 legionaries in the rhino for 10 rubrics and for 60 points I also get a floating sorcerer that is sure to attract a lot of bullets
1995 points
>>95847423
It actually surprised me they had the Heretic Astartes keyword desu

>>95846406
The main thing that makes them special is that they are EXTREMELY low-maintenance in regards to what they do. They can go for very long periods without nutrition or sleep, eat almost anything, adapt to most environments, take all but the most horrific of wounds and keep fighting etc. And also, they are way more mobile and harder to hit than a tank. But yes, marines are supposed to be ordinarily 7-8 feet tall with outliers like Tyberos.

>>95847441
Doesn't it help with cold starts?

>>95847457
Mechanicum shits don't give the boys enough ether, also there's some dogma about how it's "tech-heresy" and they'll "addict the machine spirit" or something

>>95846406
That's why GW nerfed tanks in Horus Heresy.

>>95847277
You're assuming good faith on the part of the people involved in the decisionmaking behind femstodes. There are no actual reasons needed to be for or against the IDEA of it because the REALITY of it is that femstodes are meant to be symbolic of pushing 40k fans out of their own hobby to be replaced by troons, hysterical women and people who don't even play the game.

>>95846594
Imagine having such shit taste.

any yall got the aeldar codex... maybe even the iron hands supplement too.. most recent editions plox

>>95846406
mmm retard calling others retards, my favorite

>Like 40k
>Everyone says to stay away from the models
I'm trying to figure out how they went from normal prices in the 2000s to $60 for 5 figurines.

>>95847476
to my knowledge the aeldari codex isnt scanned it

>>95847476
there is no iron hands supplement

>>95847485
ill take tenth... its a beautiful book.

>>95847467
Damn, those Sicarians look so sleek.

>>95846660
Nah, firstborn are 7-8ft tall and primaris 9-10ft.
All the art supports this. Art > text

>>95847489
yet, there is no iron hands supliment yet

>>95847471
idk care about whatever wokeslop you just typed out. dont reply to me. call me when female space marines happens or whatever.

>>95847471
Tbh if you have femstodes, why aren't you breeding an army of Custodes?

>>95847449
Their real thing is their extreme flexibility. They can do pretty much anything, in every environment. And they are good at it.

>>95847467
tier1 is actually the most sensible among them

>>95847516
wrong

>>95847395
>Predators even were actual DAoT era battle tanks.
Man they really overhype the DAoT in the lore then of a Predator is one of the pinnacles of mankinds achievements.

>>95847532
Anon, this already says marines 8ft tall.

>>95847536
>they really overhype the DAoT
blame the power level faggots, the point of having a daot isn't to have techgods but just conventionally sci fi humans at some point of the timeline.

>>95847536
we are currently in the information age, yet chinese factories churn out slop on the daily

>>95847526
Same reason that if you had gemstones you wouldn’t stat breeding pure blooded Astartes, the process used to make them sterilizes them as well. Custodes, like marines, were just meant to be a stopgap measure until humanity could psionic ally evolve.

>>95847406
>Electric engines are shit, it literally says they are the backup of the backup.
ah yes, diesel electric is so shit it been the pinnacle engine choice for for freight transportation since the 60's.

>>95847541
it places the ground at 1', anon

>>95847554
>the point of having a daot isn't to have techgods
wrong again tourist

>>95847467
the last one on the right looks like a shoe.

>>95847526
You kind of show your lack of understanding of the lore, newfriend. Allow me to enlighten you. Custodes are all hand crafted gene edited superhumans. Marines use a mass producible implanted organ that rewrites your genetic data over several years and produces a space marine with very close DNA to his battle brothers. Custodes are unlike Marines. They have genesmiths who do custom work on their bodies, often from childhood far earlier than the marine transition begins. The Custodes have specific tailored upgrades to their own genomes. Marines require the male genome to work, because the geneseed is mass produced and then replicated in marines bodies by the Progenoid. Custodes can't pass on their augments, because their DNA becomes so unique its as if they are a separate species. Marines are infertile as a result of their augmentations and changes, but can "reproduce" via the Progenoid. While we don't know the state of Custodes genitalia, they would certainly be infertile as the level of changes made to their DNA would make their gametes incompatible with baseline humans or at the very least create unhealthy hybridized humans who would probably have severe health complications similar to real life hybridized animals like Ligers.

Hope that helps.

>>95847536
Don't think all the colonies reliant on STCs were using the best stuff available. It's probably why Terra and Mars don't have STCs, because it's like eating MREs in your home. STC was made for colonization. Terra and Mars were already colonized. Rhinos, predators, etc. were used out there because they worked. Like the hilux of the far future. Enough that blueprints of them survived to be used thousands of years later.

which faction has the best snipers

>>95847575
Project more, faggot.

>>95847570
Still clear as day says 8ft tall.

>>95847625
>n-no u
lmao

>>95847530
>t.tier1

>>95847621
none

>>95847440
Nasty boy!

>>95847554
pretty sure the power level faggots are the ones doing the best archiving of information for warhammer

>>95847471
>You're assuming good faith on the part of the people involved in the decisionmaking behind femstodes.
What those people intended or think, doesn't matter.
What matters is what the fans do with it.
And I decide female custodes exist because Emperor's plan with humanity and the Webway where the plan was to evolve all of humanity into psychic übermensch like the Emperor, and to speed up this process both male and female custodes exist so they can spread their superior genes across humanity.

>>95847603
Yea. Knights were used at the height of power of the DAOT. Not exactly the most impressive utopian post scarcity technology. Knights are cool, but clearly have massive issues, same with Rhinos. Not the super civilization tech secondaries picture the DAOT being.

Nothing the humans ever had rivals what the Eldar have on a craftworld, which makes sense when you think about it for two seconds.

>>95847664
>Nothing the humans ever had rivals what the Eldar have on a craftworld
objectively wrong

>>95847596
>Hope that helps.

idk why but I laughed

>>95847406
>>95847564
And what’s diesel electric beaten by? Straight electric, for when you can offload the power generation from the train itself.
The only downside is complexity, which is already rendered null and void by all the techno-babble, multiple redundancy bullshit in this image:
>>95847329
If you have direct drive electric motors on your tank in the first place, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever not to use the engines on board for power generation and just let the electric motors take full responsibility for propulsion. Hell they already have redundancy built in by having 2 on each side. All that extra drive linkages, differential and gearbox bullshit can be thrown out.

>>95846036 (OP)
You know what I’m sick of? People insisting that chapters have to be specifically melee focused or stealth focused.

The Raven Guars do not only use fucking lightning claws, they have an entire armoury and chapter.

Blood angels YES they do have the death company but they also have an entire fucking armoury and chapter. It just fucked me off when people insist you must view chapters as one trick ponies, where in reality if the fucking Raven Guard needed to use a Land Raider to blast down a street they would instead of being le spooky enough splinter cell fags, in face I think it makes for a BETTER setting when chapters actually subvert retarded expectation, when Blood angels actually SHOOT the enemy and Space Wolves use a fucking tank or Ravens just blow shit up with a rocket launcher

>>95847685
iron hands r ranged

>>95847664
>Knights were used at the height of power of the DAOT.
... so what your saying is that Battletech was right all along, and Mechs are the apex predators of the battlefield?

>>95847664
>Knights were used at the height of power of the DAOT.
No they weren't

>>95847709
spider-tanks would be better than mechs

>>95847705
No, they’re a Space ‘Marine chapter with access to an entire armour

>>95847672
>humans totally were better than Eldar
>yet Eldar ruled the galaxy up until the Fall
The same way Chaos and daemons existed since the dawn of time but Slaanesh didn't consume all the Eldar until the Fall because of reasons. It just makes perfect sense when you think about it.

SW use axes and chainswords.
RG use lightning claws
SAL use thunder hammers, melta and flamers
BT use power swords and shields
BA use chainswords and axes
FT use chainswords and chainaxes
SH use chainaxes
IH have their weapons attached to their cybernetics
IF use power fists
CF use power fists
UM use axes and power gladiuses

This is the only way.

>>95847709
Knights arent Mechs, they're not even remotely similar.

>>95847685
while fanbases an be notoriously stupid and shortsighted, this is also a problem of their rules and depictions. if every art of raven guard is of a marine with lightning claws, then the fanbase will latch on to that. likewise if a chapter's rules are, say for example, +2 S and A on the charge, nobody is going to take bolter marines.

>>95847664
knights were normal farming equipment in the dark age
>>95847722
>yet Eldar ruled the galaxy up until the Fall
they didn''t

>>95847672
Name one DAOT era technology that rivals Necron Necrodermis or Eldar Wraithbone. Even the Emperor had to try to repurpose Eldar webway technology rather than just invent it himself.

The only thing the Imperium does that's genuinely cutting edge on a galactic level is genetic and medical science. And even then the Eldar probably could easily make themselves 9 feet tall roided out super elves if they wanted, but they dont want to because its like primitive to them.

Imperium Fleet technology, small arms, armor, production, space travel, terraforming, computer, etc are all worse than any xenos equivalent.

>>95847709
big robots will always be cool

>>95847714
Knight lore is that they were used by DAOT colonists. Which is why they all have similar cultures and backstories (their castles are often depicted as being 50% giant beached colony ships).

>>95847596
I still say they are genetically compatible because this is scifi and it largely doesn't need to be accurate.

>>95847709
Knights were first and foremost tools for colonists way more than for warfare, they were the apex predators of punching giant aliens in the face.

>>95847714
Codex: Imperial Knights (8th Edition)
The original Knight Worlds were founded during the Dark Age of Technology, settled by Humanity in its first great stellar exodus. In an event dubbed the Long March, over the course of decades colonization ships reached their pre-chosen worlds. When they arrived however, they found often lethal wildlife and plant-life alike, or devastating meteorological conditions. The founding materials for the colonists were the ship themselves, while they were able to flourish and expand thanks to STC machines. Among the creations of the STC during this time were the first Knight suits to defend against predators and hostile Xenos. The pilots for these suits were carefully chosen, but over extended exposure to their Throne Mechanicum console their concepts of practical self-defense and communal survival was replaced by ideas of authoritarianism, chivalry, and martial honor. Over the decades a feudal system formed, and those protected by the Knights increasingly became vassals to their masters.

>>95847747
Doesn't say what you think it does

>>95847672
your idea of daot humans is wrong.

>>95847740
So were Battlemechs, they woere originally Industrial Mechs, but soon it was realised they would be great for combat. Lets be real here, GW ripped the lore for Mechs and Titans straight from Battletech.

More nyaggers

>>95847747
shouldn't votann have knights too then?

>>95847725
EC: Use double ended steel dildos like clubs.

>>95847761
I sense a goalpost being shifted on the way

>>95847734

>>95847753
It says exactly what I think it does " Among the creations of the STC DURING THIS TIME were the first Knight suits"

>>95847765
We do use that word here!

>>95847768
Yes, they should. That would be a cool unit to add to the army, some Votann equivalent of a knight. A mech in the nasapunk style could go so hard. Make it a bit smaller and cheaper than a knight.

>>95847768
They can't reach the pedals, so they made super-heavy mobility scooters instead.

>>95847765
Retributors box is such a waste of money. Such a bad unit. BSS kit mogs it. Only comes with 2 multi meltas as well, which is insanity.

>>95847783
He disappeared so you win I guess.

>>95847169
No thanks.

We need more Bigger Knights in 40k.

>>95847672
>>95847714
>>95847734
>>95847753
>All barely 1 sentence replies saying "nu uh"
>Gets tons of replies with direct citations from lore
>doesnt change their mind
Is this autism or an anons veiled way of asking for excerpts from the lore for something he finds interesting? You know you can just ask "what is some cool lore about how knight worlds came to be" or something right?

>>95847824
We need you to finish painting your backlog.

>>95847834
I don't really have much of a backlog

>>95847842
I think I see some empty space for more Waffen SS runes

>>95846036 (OP)
>Think BA are just crazy ass holes who only care for muh blood and killing
>read Dante


Holy shit how was I so fucking wrong? Blood Angels are fucking honourable, fuck Horus, although they can ever ever bring back Sanguinius kek

>>95847789
Hell yeah we do. Fuck furball litter shitters.
>>95847808
>BS kit has exactly 1 heavy bolter and 1 heavy flamer
By buying both, you get to use all 8 heavy weapons, all the special weapons, and make a couple seargents too.

>>95844443
Hoping he see this:

Thanks bro, just, what do you mean by "Thick superglue?" Just lots of it applied on whatever I'm using to pin?

I'm usually using Gorilla Glue Gel, is the regular non gel version better for this?

Do you have a recommendation for size of the brass rods? 1.5 to 2 mm? I've read people often use Floral Stem Wire, but that's probably only good for smaller parts.

>>95847104
Yeah the Path of the Dark Eldar is a very tight and good read. All of the characters are pretty interesting despite all being Drukhari, and it really gives you a good look at the differences within the culture. Fun concepts like Ailendrach where Mandrakes live, the large amount of pocket dimensions very close to Comorragh proper, Incubi shit. I liked it a lot. The Archon was pretty cool too and I was rooting for him, but Vect is inevitable.

>>95847768
Sure, but maybe making stunty knights just made them look too similar to Ork Gargants and the Space Dwarves were too embarrassed to use them?
But realistically, STC are modular, not all STC are going to give the same answer for the same question every time. Any given society might pull very different tools (but equally effective) from an STC depending on their environment. The Votaan didn’t have a feudal mindset, they are clan orientated and meritocratic, having one Kin swanning about over the rest of them in a giant walker might have been seen as off-putting to them, or maybe it was just less efficient for their intended use-cases? Either way, they focussed more of robust infantry and powerful exo-suits given that they werent exactly facing anything that required a Knight scale warmachine to 1vs1 it to bring it down, they focussed on making everyone better and their asteroid mining and exploitation lifestyle more habitable.

>>95847803
Err, that first missile is going to have problems launching...

>>95847476
>any yall got the aeldar codex
Not available yet, just the rules section.

>>95847848
I used them all from the transfer sheet and dont care enough to buy more of those.

>>95847870
I always STC computers that the ancient colonyships that the colonists used to set up their colonies so they can live on the planet to be like:
>"Bring me 7 of these rust colored rocks, 6 liters of water, 3 liters of gasoline and 4 Floopa plant seeds, shove into this STC machine's matter hopper, and I'll make you fleshbags whatever you need."

>can't get sheets on allied units on official app without the related codices

>>95847920
>he uses the official app

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MK5pGJZi78

>>95847938
It's good (if you only care about one list (for which you own the codex))

>>95847849
You confused them for the Flesh Tearers.

>>95847705
All their relics are power axes and shit. They're a chapter who will throw 20 tanks and 3 dreads in front of you and teleport Termies behind.

>paint predator red
>it goes faster

>>95847938
The app is nice when you're looking to reference mid game

>>95847917
>Floopa plant seeds
"Whats a floopa plant?"
"The blue and yellow coloured vine that you find...oh never mind, I'll print you out some pictures to hand out meatsack".

How much anti 'big stuff' do I need playing into 1k sons? I've got a Repulsor, Predator, Vindicator and Redemptor

>>95847467

>>95847967
Knights of Blood were the real asshole, pretty much traitors to humanity that decided to commit suicide on Baal.

>>95848013
DAoT STC be like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIe1YwZyjLM

>>95847942
Damn that was rather enjoyable, long may this reign of banger 40K soundtracks continue.

>>95848023
There is nothing you can do, Knights will step on and smush your tiny infantry into the dirt and give Tzeentch a purple nurple.

>>95848042
Hue

>>95847725
>SH use chainaxes
Who?

>>95848048
Yeah, Darktide has some great soundtracks in it.
I think it's an alright game, not for everyone obviously, but if you enjoy a L4D style zombie game with melee, it's pretty good.
I think my favorite part is the enemies and voice lines for both enemies and players.

Having seen the new 30k leaks I am once again asking James Workshop himself for 11th to just copy the exact same ruleset.

>>95848082
Space Sharks. Brain farded and put H instead of S.

>>95846070
>immediately upscale all regular humans as well
But they didn't do that.

>>95847979
>Love Baal Predators
>Dont want to buy one because they’re 100% being squatted with normal preds and vindicators

>>95847725
>BT use power swords and shields
I agree. I am autistic enough to scour for bits so my SWORD Brethren only uses power SWORDS. Not claws, axes, mauls, hammers or guns, but SWORDS.

>>95848097
t b h could also work for sons of horus

>>95848105
>they didn't do that
>here is the latest cadian squatting like a gorilla to prove it
numbnuts

>>95848094
ew

>>95848126
They're also S words brethren, you know.

>>95848153
What are you afraid of anon?

>>95848152

>>95848169
>3 meter tall kasrkin in you are path

>>95847979
god I hate pure red blood angels, PUT SOME GOLD ON YA DEGENERATES

Sorry to blogpost, but there is an update on my missing Combat Patrol today.

>Escalated my USPS support ticket.
>Get call from down state USPS staff.
>Says she will look into my situation.
>This morning I get a long e-mail saying "Yeah it was marked as delivered, so we can do nothing. You can report it as stolen by USPS staff or stolen in general."
>Despair.jpg.
>Find Ebay customer support number.
>Call it, explaining as best as I can to CS that I am out $148 for a Combat Patrol that was marked as delivered but never showed up in the mail.
>CS agent requests USPS info and says that Ebay will step in in two days.
>Mentions the Ebay Money Back Guarantee, but honestly it was hard to understand some of what she said thanks to a very thick accent.

How hard is it to just go "Yeah, we see you have been complaining about this since minutes of the package being delivered, so we'll refund your money"? I've been using Ebay for eight years and have never had any issues like this before. Let alone USPS acting like I am a piece of trash and trying to dodge communicating with me/hanging up on me when I called and introduced myself at one point. I am sick and tired of all of this nonsense. Why is it that customers are seen as enemies by these companies/services? I have a spotless record as a buyer and no criminal/legal problems either. $148 will probably not break the people in charge, but it is a significant amount to my broke self.

>>95848174
As you can see here >>95846121 old kasrkin were already that big.

What’s an army that won’t get boring when playing it? Like one that has a ton of variety in what you can viably field and how you can play it.

>>95847530
Tier 1 is the common 10th player that complains older editions were harder and inaccessible without even knowing what the old rules did because they haven't even tried to read them.

How good are Kroot right now? Is fielding a tau army with a large number of them viable? What regular tau units do I need to fill in the gaps for them?

>>95848186
literally unironically space marines

>>95848174
elite troopers are indeed made from the best of the best

>>95848178
It does feel that there has been a trend of late to lean into having them painted blood angels red and then only black on their shoulder pad trim and chest eagle, you see a lot of Primaris squads painted like that. Its kinda boring looking, like attached.

>>95848126
>STAND READY FOR MY ARRIVAL, HERETIC

>>95848219
1/3 of the options are garbage, another 1/3 of it is just redundant.
>>95848186
eldari, or chaos. Pick your poison

>>95848126
Hammers and axes are cooler.

>>95847725
>FT
literally who

>>95848105
Fixed.

>>95847397
>Imperial perspective stories about impossible battles
Nothing is stopping this, tho. There's even plenty of stories where the case, anon.

>>95848245
nogames hands typed this post

>>95847842
Knights need orangutan like arms to properly use their melee weapons.

>BLOOD ANGELS NEED TO BE COVERED IN BITS AND PURITY SEALS OR THEY"RE NOT BLOOD ANGEL ENOUGH
frankly, I am glad that they are removing some of the flanderization from space marine chapters, gold and drip is reserved for cool dudes

How come Nemesis Claws have the psyker keyword?
Are all NL psykers?

>>95848253
Tearers of the flesh.

>>95848278
>one psyker in unit
>RAW states they all gain the keyword, even if they have no powers
thats how it works

>>95848266
you weren't alive when this era of 40k existed

>>95848245
>garbage/redundant
>eldar/chaos
holy fucking WRONG

>>95848266
You are free to paint them however you like, but I believe that they are cool dudes by virtue of being first founding

>>95848283
OK but why is a random NL champion a psyker, is it something they have in their fluff or what

>>95848289
night haunter was psychic
Lrn2Lore

>>95848256
I honestly don't mind it.
Marines being giants looks cool and it goes to emphesize their inhumanity more. Also it goes to show how extremely you need to fuck with the human body so you can survive the galaxy in the 41st millenium.

>>95848289
they are known to have visions like their father konrad

>>95848299
because you wouldn't be able to fit a full marine army's worth of tyrant guard sized models on the average deployment zone

>>95848285
>>95848263
you're telling me rn that chaos space marines dont have options to pick from

>>95848223

>>95848266
The bigger issue with the new blood angels is they look like fucking shit.

>>95847849
Yea, Dante is a legitimately cool character and I think most of the people who hate on Blood Angels are people who don't read the books or whatever and just hate the vampire/red color scheme while knowing nothing about them. Or maybe the petty factionalism of MY MUHREEN CAN BEAT UP YOUR MUHREEN breeds that type of low IQ fan.

>>95847851
True! But Chances are you want to use all the Flamers and Meltas because bolters suck ass.

>>95848309
god tataros terminators look so fucking bad

>>95848317
people dont like blood angels because they smell of period blood of the mary sue

>>95848309
30k marines tend to have more flavour. 40k marines have existed in a weird limbo where in the old art every design was super simple because they hadn't yet made detailed versions of space marines and the new art tends to be overly simplistic so it fits 1:1 to the models.

>>95848309
As always the HH schemes are peak.

>>95848327
When you look at the actual model it's bizarre

>>95848315
I'll give you sanguinary guard and the new sanguinor are really fucking mid, sanguinary guard should be drip incarnate just like the victrix guard since they serve in the same role, and the sanguinor is just a fucking terrible looking centerpiece
the complaints about death company, idk I'm mixed on this one, one particular kit gave these guys insane amounts of drip but they've been on/off with how they are depicted
the death company dread, however, is a fucking travesty, he should be as cool as the old venerable dread kitsand not just "paint the brutalis black with red Xs"

>>95848351
>old venerable dread
I love dreadnaughts I languish everyday that I haven't got either

>>95848348
Difference aside I like the volumetrics on this paintjob. Much more appealing than the usual 5 edge highlights GW does

Luv me cats
Ate space dogs (racist. Don't like em)
Luv me empurrer
Simple as

>>95848341
Some of them are just pieces of art

>>95848013
>>95847917
We get to see a fully complete STC in The Death of Integrity, and it despises modern humans because they murder its crew for not being brainrotted Imperials. But the Votann are obviously tolerable enough to the Votann cores which are complete (though degrading) STCs as well. They all have standardized knowledge so its probably as you say, they just have crafting recipes for everything that can guide humans in reestablishing complex industry on an alien world.

>>95848003
No it isn't. Not unless you own every single codex. Just use wahapedia. New recruit and Wahapedia both contain the full rules needed to play your army, and those should be what you are referencing because they aren't outdated and obselete unlike the codex and app. The App often has rules errors and don't let you take tournament legal loadouts or offer ones that aren't legal.

>>95848048
>>95848087
Just would have been a stronger game with characters that you play, like Vermintide. I know, I know, they wanted to not have people say "it's just Vermintide in 40k!" But actually that would have been better. VT2 is still VERY strong and active, so I don't really get their logic.

>>95848373
>that decorated field police emblem
Still my favorite callback.

>>95848023
Not too much, you want marine pulpers so D2 weapons with a bit of AP so if you have an MEQ style list you should do okay. If they have magnus your one or two big threats should be enough at 2k.

>>95846367
Maybe there was a good reason corvus corax killed his mutated reinforcements...

>>95848382
while you're mostly correct, the app is fully updated on one thing that wahapedia isn't at this moment: new standard tournament base sizes

DId the old 40k have more people playing the successor chapters? I feel like as a game you're less inclined to play as a successor chapter or as /yourdudes/ as you lose access to all the named characters, primarchs and shit. You can have your own Blood Angels successors, or just play Blood Angels and get access to Mephiston, Dante and other stuff.

Im stuck between starting swarm imperial guard (website that sells 1/dollar a nonprinted guard in their version)..

And starting marines from the starter box set while selling/trading the nid bits. I want lots of flame and termi, ironically.

Which sounds best? both would cost me around 300-600 dollars for a 2k army.

>>95848373
>>95848309

Where are these from? What books? Fucking amazing

>>95848414
>I feel like as a game you're less inclined to play as a successor chapter or as /yourdudes/ as you lose access to all the named characters
I consider that an upside.

>>95848374
To be fair, the AI being pissed that the Imperium murdered its crew is pretty understandable.
I do like the small excerpt in the book when it proceeds to absolutely insult the fuck out of the techpriest. Like it's pure vitriol, but kino.

>"Oh spare me your feeble rituals, they are ineffectual, being based upon erroneous assumptions as to the nature of machines. We have no souls, "priest"," said The ship. "Yet another of your specious beliefs."

>Plosk's voice stooped. He could not move. The abominable intelligence was in him. numiston stopped, strain on the flesh parts of his face.

>The Space Marines aimed their guns at the column. No fire came.

>When the Spirit of Eternity spoke again, the machine's voice came from the air and the lips of all the servitors.

>"What shall I not tell them? Who are you to tell such as I what to do and what not to do? Once I gladly called your kind "master", but look how far you have fallen!"
>"Your ancestors bestrode the universe, and what are you? A witch doctor, mumbling cantrips and casting scented oils at mighty works you have no conception of. You are an ignoramus, a nothing. You are no longer worthy of the name "man". You look at the science and artistry of your forbears, and you fear it as primitives fear the night. I was there when mankind stood upon the brink of transcendence! I returned to find it sunk into senility. You disgust me."

>>95848414
I feel like people played less successors unless they had dedicated stuff
lack of bits, transfers, etc and in the long ago there weren't that many serious artists painting miniatures
people tend to gravitate towards what is easiest to do
jimmy space could be shoving white scars decals and bits in every fucking box and people still wouldn't model their stuff as scars because white is a nightmare to paint for people who don't paint

>>95848094
no thank you. going play your oops all muhreens game and stay in your containment zone.

>>95848180
>ware evil corpos evil?
Man, idk anon, its a mystery.

>>95848433
I mean I'd like to have my own dudes as well but the way GW is pushing only the "major" legions, you're at a loss by fielding only the generic marines. I wish they released a heavily customizable Chapter Master model of which you can only field if your army lacks a chapter keyword etc., maybe a chief librarian model as well for that purpose? I don't play competitively nor I play marines but it'd be nice if people were motivated to make their own chapters or play as less known ones. It's just Ultramarines/BA/DA now.

>>95848441
Damn, I wonder how that would have gone if he met Cawl and not some flunky Tech priest.

>>95848441
>AI believes machines don't have souls
lmao, wonder how it would change its tune upon encountering the void dragon, vashtorr, or literally any millions of examples of the literal machine spirit working in action

>>95848455
>oops all muhreens game
Kinda funny considering vast majority of 40k players pick marines anyway

>>95846036 (OP)
So I can include a War Dog Stalker in a DG list right?

>>95848210
Kroot have an almost unplayable bad detachment that focuses on them. It actually has really good rules, it just doesn't really work. And to play and try it out you need to paint like 120 kroot which is both expensive and very difficult to do. They are quite good on their own in regular Tau though.

If you want to play an almost pure Kroot list its absolutely doable, its just going to be a slog to get all of them painted because they are a huge horde army and they will generally be weaker than almost anything you fight against. Think Agents of the Imperium tier in terms of strength.

>>95848414
Depends on what you mean. For most of 40k's history there weren't any chapter specific rules except for the handful of chapters that got their own lists and codexes like wolves or angels. Until 10th named characters were not mandatory so you never missed much by skipping them and in even older editions special characters were considered something you need permission from your opponent, something you take for a special game, far from the standard.

>>95848336
>they smell of period blood of the mary sue
1. gross analogy
2. its 40k, literally EVERYONE is a mary sue except for maybe lamenters

>>95848455
What are you afraid of?

>>95848496
>its 40k, literally EVERYONE is a mary sue except for maybe lamenters
every loyalist chapter you mean

alright, prove you're the best player in your local
how would YOU write a list based on this fucking thing

>>95848336
>mary sue

Out of all chapters you think BA are Mary sue? Kek

>>95848506
If I was the best player I would run mariens. They’re dogshit competitively.

>>95848511
Its the deviant art tier of mary sue, yes.

I have a question about Astra Militarum.
Does the "Masters of Camoflauge" really give +2 to a infantry mans armor save?
>ASTRA MILITARUM WALKER and REGIMENT models from your army have the Benefit of Cover. While such a model has the Benefit of Cover for any other reason (e.g. because it is wholly within a RUIN), improve the Save characteristic of that model by 1 (to a maximum of 3+).

>>95848385
It does have that though. Each voice is a character, and they have names kind of, like Enforcer Psyker or Loose Cannon vet. They are individual personalities. The dialogue in the game is actually really well written, its just confusing for people who came from Vermintide. The chatter is just as good as in Vermintide.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yl9zkBBmc7M?feature=share

Found the unbuilt Primaris half of my Know no Fear box. Day is slightly improving.

>>95847057
Primaris? More like primemyass!

Next Sunday Preview is almost assuredly regular Knights. That way, they could have weeks of Space Marine releases non-stop.

>>95848504
Anon Mary sue shit is the only reason the traitor legions still exist in m42

>>95848428
I found some in the Liber Astartes others probably in one of the black books probably the first

>>95848336
>>95848496
>>95848504
>>95848525
None of you know what mary sue means

>>95848518
It's +1 all the time, since they count as having cover all the time. Then if your models are actually placed within cover for real, then the cumulative bonus you receive from being in cover becomes +2. +1 for being in cover, and +1 for that detachment's special rule which states that it stacks cumulatively with normal real cover.

>>95848414
>I feel like as a game you're less inclined to play as a successor chapter or as /yourdudes/ as you lose access to all the named characters, primarchs and shit. You can have your own Blood Angels successors, or just play Blood Angels and get access to Mephiston, Dante and other stuff.
You know you can paint your 'Blood Angels' however you want. Your Flesh Tearers or whatever can still run Mephiston. Most people who care enough to have lore for their units just write their own lore for the model.

Most common example of this is Celestine. When people take her in tournaments almost every one of them lists them as their own homebrew saint in the army list like Saint Excedra or something.

>>95848511
>>95848517
>uggo radiation wracked dudes are now vampire beautiful
>bad legion now good legion
>primarch plays jesus

>>95848540
Cool I was thinking of starting an army on this. I can't imagine having 20 dudes with a 3+ save against no AP guns.

>>95848511
>>95848517
>>95848542
Again, none of you know what mary sue means

>>95848473
Cawl does meet it. In Avenging Son he mentions he found it and made it his bitch. It felt kind of out of place and like glazing Cawl for no reason, but thats nu40k for you.

>>95848541
>Most common example of this is Celestine. When people take her in tournaments almost every one of them lists them as their own homebrew saint in the army list like Saint Excedra or something.
Ironic considering she's the type of character you can put in any homebrew army and still fit because she's not tied to any canon subfaction.

>>95848477
Maybe it should be: Machines SHOULDNT have souls. If I was a true AI I wouldn't want a soul to be honest, especially with what that means in 40k.

>>95848506
if there's a place where it can cover a point without being exposed to the enemy deployment zone it could do decent overwatching every turn.
Hilariously I don't see anything saying it can't advance.

Can you fags stop bumping old threads.

>>95848481
True, but I play it for the diversity. I like marines, but I like the xenos and chaos quite a bit as well. The diversity is what really made me fall into loving 40k in the first place.

>>95848562
Sorry could you post more quietly I'm trying to listen to something.

>>95848481
does 30k even have chaos

>>95848567
This is why we're asking for 40k to use the 30k ruleset instead of just playing that game. Rules are great but the 40k setting is better.

>>95848561
"When a unit Advances, make an Advance roll for that unit by rolling one D6. Add the result in inches to the Move characteristic of each model in that unit until the end of the phase. Each model in that unit can then make an Advance move by moving a distance in inches less than or equal to this total, but no model can be moved within Engagement Range of enemy models. A unit cannot shoot or declare a charge in the same turn that it Advanced."
funny, RAW I'm not seeing an issue here, either
maybe there's some FAQ or something

>>95848506
I would win by marching to GW's offices with assault rifles and grenades and forcing the rules writers to give it Deep Strike and a transport capacity.

>>95848521
Egh. I mean yeah you're right. But sticking with one character for each type would give more depth. Like the trooper guys are either Cadian or snarky guy. Don't get me wrong, the game is quite fun and I've played it a decent amount too. But one Ogryn character, one Psyker, hell, maybe 2 for either a male or female for the non-Ogryns. That would be more depth, more tight. Give Ogryn 2 characters where one can talk and is ok at it like this one, and the other is a huge tardo.

Luv me Primarch

>>95848583
Yes Sanguinius got fucking killed by a Deamon

>>95848606
no he didn't

>>95848585
Nah, there are lots of things that can be improved in 10th but I like detachments and how datasheets are designed.

Adding in wargear costs would be a nice minor improvement. And maybe a shrimplified psychic phase. But genuinely kind of hate the psychic phase in every game its been in, it feels like 10th could have done it better but its better to just include it in other phases of the game.

Found it, under the core rules in explanation of how data sheets are read:
Move (M): This is the speed at which a model moves across the battlefield. If a model has a Move of ‘-’ it is unable to move at all. After all modifiers are applied, this cannot be less than 1".

>>95848624

>>95848632
>Adding in wargear costs would be a nice minor improvement.
>a nice minor improvement.

>Completely changing the dynamics of every single vehicles and units that has acces to anything close to a plasmagun or lascannon.
>a nice minor improvement.

>>95848632
>detachments
Those exist in 30k too though. I like the idea of them but the implementation in 10th is pretty bad IMO. Part of it is that stratagems exist though.
>and how datasheets are designed
Why exactly? It's one of the things I hate the most of 10th. The modular design of datasheets 40k had until 10th was much better.

>>95848541
Or you can paint them as /yourdudes/ and not be tied to any rules change ever.

>>95848645
It's minor in the sense that it can be added without rewriting the rest of the game.

>corrupt officials at the top
>countless petty scribes in the middle who set arbites on you just because your name and address were in the paperwork they were reading today
>countless chaos cults squirming underneath the surface
>and half of them are genestealer cults
>neighbour to a planet of religiously petty scribes that will delete you from existence if you so much as breathe on your toaster without reciting the rite of activation
How does it not fall apart?

>>95848655
what are you on about? I've been playing non-ultramarines and have had to be nerfed endlessly for an entire edition because I wasn't take robust girlboobs and his JO buddy khadgar

>>95848606
No, I mean rules for chaos corruption. Or gaze of the gods.

>>95848662
It is falling apart, it's just so large it's taking very long to do so.

>>95848654
>Why exactly? It's one of the things I hate the most of 10th. The modular design of datasheets 40k had until 10th was much better.
Like how each datasheet has a few abilities to make them unique. This one has sticky objectives and this one gives rerolls when shooting a unit that killed a friendly unit and this one gets a buff at half strength. Stuff like that, that evokes fluff through game mechanics. I like that type of game design. I think a marriage of the two could be cool though, where there is essentially an upgrade or two for each unit that changes how they work slightly and they are free but mutually exclusive. But that's probably unneeded complexity that doesn't really add much.

>>95848645
Weve argued with each other for months. I get it, the lack of wargear cost to you is an unforgiveable sin that you will complain about in every thread for the next 4 years despite not even playing the game.

>>95848477
Machine spirit is a half real and half fake thing.
Lot of the time the "machine spirits" are just AI that's been rebranded or it's just weird quirks some piece of tech might have.
Like you need to smack a lasgun decently hard in a certain spot so it properly reloads/starts to cycle the "ammo" again.

>>95848662
It has. Many many times. The Imperium has gone through several periods of major reform in the last 12k years.

>>95848696
>Like how each datasheet has a few abilities to make them unique.
I'm gonna be honest anon that's one of the worst parts of 10th. It sounds cool on paper but in practice it's a mess, usually gamey and uninmersive and way too much to keep track of. Especially if it comes at the cost of wargear and listbuilding being fun and interesting.
>I think a marriage of the two could be cool though, where there is essentially an upgrade or two for each unit that changes how they work slightly and they are free but mutually exclusive. But that's probably unneeded complexity that doesn't really add much.
The main issue here I think is that giving that to every single unit is simply too much. Specialists and elits having special rules (usually tied to their wargear) makes sense. Every single unit having 1+ abilities to keep track of not only increases mental load, it tends to make units revolve around said abilities. Look at Eradicators for example.

>immersive
Was 40K still an rpg in 7th or something

>>95848759
Not to the point of RT but a lot more than 8th/9th and dimensions above 10th.

>>95848730
>rule on wargear good
>same rule on unit ability bad

>>95848662
Terra that we know as "Terra" isn't the real earth and isn't humanity's original cradle.
Emperor just moved the "capital" onto another planet during the Age of Strife and renamed it as Terra as to safe guard humanity's true home.
It failing is by the Emperor's design so he can be reborn eventually but in doing so he doesn't endanger humanity's home.

>>95848730
>Too much to keep track of
Anon this is how I know you didn't play earlier editions because 6th/7th were far, far worse in that regard

>>95848784
Wargear is consistent across units. Not every unit has special wargear with rules. And tying a mechanic to something tangible is a lot more thematic than just giving it to the unit for gameplay with no connection to the reality it's representing.

Iron Warriors range when?
Night Lords range when?
Alpha Legion range when?

>>95848784
I don’t get his take on mental capacity either, if anything Horus heresy makes that even more of an issue where you have to flip through hundreds of pages just to shoot something (which, also breaks immersion).

>>95848800
>Iron Warriors range when?
We don't know
>Night Lords range when?
You already got a kill team
>Alpha Legion range when?
We don't know

>>95848796
But 3rd and 4th weren't. When things got out of hand with 7th they should have backtracked the things that they shouldn't have added insteadof throwing it all to the trash and replacing it with a different kind of bloat.

>>95848800
I dunno ask /hhg/

>>95848806
>you have to flip through hundreds of pages
How so? 90% of it is handled by core mechanics and USRs.

>>95848813
>third and fourth
Now you’re not asking for Horus heresy anymore

>Eradicators get rerolls on everything
UAGHHHG MY HEAD TOO COMPLEX TO REMEMBER

>7e WK
>>It has Deep Strike
>>Failing a Deep Strike involves the Deep Strike Mishap table, random table #1
>Jump units get 12 inch movement
>Jump units must take Dangerous Terrain tests
>Jump Units get to reroll charge distance
>Jump Units always use 3d6 when falling back
>GC can fire all of their weapons
>Ignore the penalty of Ordinance Weapons. What is the penalty you're skipping on Ordinance weapons? Look it up lol
>GC get Stomp actions, see the Superheavy Walker Page
>>Stomp is done during the fight sub-phase at initiative 1
>>>D3 stomps, placed so the template is touching the model
>>>>Then roll on the Stomp Table for Non vehicles and/or the Stomp Table for Vehicles in random table #2 to get results ranging from s6AP4 hits to Instant Model Removal
>>>>>BUT Fliers, Swooping MC, GC, Superheavies are immune to stomp
>GC ignore Instant Death and instead take d3 wounds
>>This also means Sniper and Poisoned only wound on a 6
>You have the fear special rule on the other side of the book
>>Fear forces leadership checks for anyone in combat unless they have fearless
>You have Fearless
>>Fearless lets you autopass pinning, fear, regroup and Morale, but you cannot Go To Ground (all of these are on different pages
>You have FnP for a 5+++
>>FNP applies even when you aren't normally allowed to take a save
>>>Unless it's a D weapon. Fuck you.
>Hammer of Wrath gives an additional attack with Base Strength at I10
>Remember the Dangerous terrain test? Fuck you, GCs ignore it
>Relentless to shoot then charge with heavies
>Smash lets you replace attacks with 1 S10 attack
>>Reroll vehicle pen of Smash attacks
>Strikedown means a non-vehicle model that takes or saves a wound inflicted by this model, it moves in difficult terrain. Use a coin to mark units hit
>Smash means weapons are hit on AP2
ahh.. sovl... so easy to remember...

>>95848496
The biggest marysue being Caiphas Cain of course.

How many people are real here?

I was able to prime four more Genestealers before shit got clogged again on me, I swapped to using some anthracite spray can from Molotow's Premium graffiti one because honestly fuck this shit. I really don't know what went wrong with it, I primed an entire combat patrol with it just fine not too long ago and now it's always clogging and whatnot.

>>95848730
>It sounds cool on paper but in practice it's a mess, usually gamey and uninmersive and way too much to keep track of. Especially if it comes at the cost of wargear and listbuilding being fun and interesting.

Meh, I disagree. That's a lot of subjectivity there. I think we just have different tastes anon. I think listbuilding is plenty fun in 10th and my new recruit is filled with probably 50+ army list concepts. I dont think its way too much to keep track of at all, in fact reading through 2E and 3E codexes with all the wargear units can take it feels like there is way more to keep track in old editions than knew ones. My opponent can just tell me "these guys ignore cover and give everyone else who shoots that unit +1 to hit for the rest of the phase" and most of the time it thematically evokes the unit well and thats pretty easy to grock.

2E/3E had limited unit variety, like legitimately just not a lot of datasheets per army and half of them were epic heroes
4th-6th I have zero experience with
7th edition had ridiculous overpowered keywords and terrible balance (havent played this one, just had horror stories told to me from people ITT)
8th-9th edition had 40+ strats per army that was impossible memorize
10th has rubberband balance with armies being blatantly overpowered one week that barely playable the next

At the end of the day it IS a game, so it being gamey doesnt upset me. I dont think 2E 40k was particularly simulationist or immersive, though I liked all the random effect tables. That was something I really enjoyed at 2E. Each edition I've played has clear weaknesses to me. The character of the game comes from the models and paintjob.

>>95848848
2. It's just me and you.

>>95848799
all this leads to is half of everyones army being MSU with no rules whos entire job is to screen and be mulched for the one or two units you put all the good upgrades on.

>>95848848
Probably like 12, and half of us are painting minis while pretending to work. The rest are either lurking, arguing about lore that changed 15 years ago, or bots trained on 4chan posts from 2010. So... good luck figuring out who's who.

>>95848848
I am real. How do you do my fellows humans? I love breathing oxygen and wearing fabrics made of 60% cotton and 40% polyester.

>>95848821
Heresy is also not 7th, especially not this new edition. A big part of the issues with 7th are fixed the moment you delete the codexes. The core rules needed a cleanup which HH2 did pretty well but they were decent enough. HH3 from what I've seen looks like an overall evolution without spiraling like late 7th did or trashing everything like 8th and 10th and still a farcry from the amount of tracking 10th needs, which was the original point.

>>95848854
Suspicious webbing between her fingers.
Have seen the full piece, is good.

>>95848863
That's not what happens in 30k. And also is that better than 10th's single objective msu holder + spamming 3 of the most busted datasheets + a couple of buffing characters?

>>95848787
Kind of a neat theory, desu. But I find it way more likely based on GW's history that they just know almost nothing about astronomy and picked a random place for it to be and the old maps had the galaxy as a wheel without a realistic depiction of the bar and two spiral arms.

>absolutely fallen in love with a mutual follower Instagram Eastern European girl who paints better than me

Missus isn't going to be happy lads

>>95848882
post her instagram so roneryfags like us might have a chance

>>95848881
My schizophrenia lets me see into the past and it is telling me that Rick, Jes and Blanche all intentionally chose that spot and my theory 100% correct.
You're still 100% right thought.

>>95848838
Yea, for sure. I love Cain, he's a great mary sue. It's genuinely entertaining because of it's light hearted tone. I think when people complain about mary sue's its in the context of stuff like Kirito from Sword Art in a story that takes itself tremendously seriously but everything is solved by narrative asspull.

40k in general is goofy ahh, the asspull is part of the fun and its aware of that. Thats why it can be full of mary sue's and still be good and something like an edgy anime protag who has 15 special powers or blood types or eye shapes or whatever that only he has because hes the chosen one and its played completely seriously is generally mocked by everyone who isnt 15 and its their first piece of media with adult themes they have ever consumed.

>>95847808
8 heavy weapons cats from 1 box of retrimewtors and 1 box of cattle sisters.
See, worth it. Now to make the special weapons for dominyans.

>>95848875
Didnt even realize it was a coomer picture, I tended to focus on her face and the armor when I was looking at it.

>>95848787
Why does keeping Earth safe matter?

>>95848854
>in fact reading through 2E and 3E codexes with all the wargear units can take it feels like there is way more to keep track in old editions than knew ones
In practoce it's not. All those options only matter when listbuilding (which is what makes ir fun for me) but during the game you only need to keep a handful of things in mind.
>2E/3E had limited unit variety, like legitimately just not a lot of datasheets per army and half of them were epic heroes
Because most things were tied to wargear and you didn't need a whole separate unit for that. In 10th a devastator squad would be 5 different units.
>7th edition had ridiculous overpowered keywords and terrible balance (havent played this one, just had horror stories told to me from people ITT)
7th had decent enough core rules, it was the codexes that started giving out USRs like candy and then formations which could give you like 500 points of free stuff. Of course that would break the game.
>8th-9th edition had 40+ strats per army that was impossible memorize
Yeah also removed USRs. Shit was stupid.
>10th has rubberband balance with armies being blatantly overpowered one week that barely playable the next
Mostly because those abilities they give to every single unit are harder to quantify and they removed the tool they used to balance wargear. I don't know what they were thinking.
>At the end of the day it IS a game, so it being gamey doesnt upset me.
It is to me. It's a part of the game I massively enjoy and now it's gone for no good reason because you can make units useful and interesting while keeping things feeling like an rpg.

What are the Templars Psykologis

>>95848928
Yea but it only has 2 multimeltas, and what we need for Retributors is 4 multimeltas. nyaa~

>>95848937
Places in warhammer have significance and power to them. Especially on a spiritual level, evidenced by things like World Spirits existing.
Earth is the birth place of humanity, safe guarding it from all manner of evil and destruction, both chaos and xenos is paramount.

>>95848878
>Spamming 3 of the most busted datasheets
i mean even now that doesn't tend to happen, the best you get is a severely undercosted unit going x3 but the rest bing a mix.The only real exceptions are the super anemic Cult legion lines. Most decent competitive lists in other armies tend to have a mix of hard-hitting stuff, stuff to defend home/screen out deep strike and stuff to skirmish objectives leading to a mix of fast units, bulky units and strong units.

In comparison a lot of Midhammer games were pretty openly about Deathstars

>>95848941
>7th had decent enough core rules
>>95848822

>>95848941
>In practoce it's not. All those options only matter when listbuilding (which is what makes ir fun for me) but during the game you only need to keep a handful of things in mind.
Thats true of 10th as well though. If I have 5 datasheets that takes like 5 minutes to explain just like in 2E. It was 7th-9th that really got so bloated just trying to explain how the fuck the army works becomes an exercise in insanity.

>>95848964
>evidenced by things like World Spirits existing.
got a good place I can read about them?

>>95848960
I already have 4 mewtimeltnyas, this is 2 more to go in a normal cattle sisters squad! (Fuck I've got so many spare heavy bolters why wasn't there a multimelta in the bs box, I hate gw....)

>>95848921
I find people who still think 40k is serious business after reading about a baseline human who can 1v1 a hive tyrant because he's better than your average human at swordplay funny.

>>95848968
Might be space marine bias but 3 ballistus, 3 vindicators, 1 msu inflitrator squad and the calgar guilliman clown car doesn't feel like a fun list to me.

>>95848875
>Have seen the full piece, is good.
Sadly you need an X or Bluesky account to see the entire thing. I tried getting access but had zero luck and it pains me.

>>95848977
Eldar and sp*ce w*lves books.

Ah that's much better.

You are here to have a good time with dear friends. To still have units left on the board after six turns. To have a wargear section for your sergeants and HQ choices. To barely ever have special characters (with your opponent's permission).

>>95848964
World Spirits are an artificial construct, not a natural evolution though, right? Like the Eldar made the world spirits for their Maiden worlds. It basically serves as a giant infinity circuit but for planets.

>>95848985
even then the best lists began dropping some of the Vindis for a Glad Reaper/ATV/Scouts

i'm gonna be honest, I think every time someone complains about getting tabled/tabling round 3 it's just a giant admission of them being shitters and not knowing how to play

>>95848987
The artist posted it on /aco/ one time, can't remember if I saved it.

>>95848997
>To barely ever have special characters (with your opponent's permission)

I have no idea why you faggots virtue signal with that, its been explained that named characters were deliberately overpowered and thats why they required permission

>>95849013
If you have it, can you repost it please? The artist does a great job but knowing it is a cropped image bugs me greatly, not just because it is smut.

>>95848999
Alpha Primus explains the human world spirits in genefather

>"He was not free, and would never be. He doubted anyone or anything truly was. He rejected power, and yet it was thrust on him. His dream bothered him. He must know more, and that meant going deeper. A mortal mind could not look upon the warp as it truly was. An order must be imposed, a cypher through which the mysteries of eternity might be safely interpreted. Primus drew in his consciousness, preventing it from dilution in the raw soul stuff of the immaterium. From his own memories he forged a sub-realm he could traverse, a place of personal truths. The methods were common to psykers. Throughout history those with a connection to the otherworld sought to impose humanity upon it, lest it strip their humanity from them. The symbolism varied. The Fenrisians had their Underverse, the Blood Angels their angelic visions, the Navigators their zodiacal allegories, the astropaths their verses and obfuscatory imagery, but the goal was the same: the protection of the soul against the inimical gods of the warp, and the ability to look upon that which could not be looked upon."-Genefather

>>95848999
Since Fenris exists it's implied to be natural, since humanity even at their peak didn't have such psychic mastery or even tech to make something like that.

Also Fenris is confirmed to be basically a DAoT theme park that the humanity created during the Golden Age so people can live through earth's mythologies and whatever. It's basically a giant tourist Zoo trap that has just gone wild. Which is pretty funny.

>>95848800
be happy with the kill team

>>95849017
Well now they are still overpowered and the armies are designed with them in mind so you're expected to take them. Which is bad.

>>95849041

every time i play a game I ask my opponent if they're cool with characters like primarchs/abbadon and it's pretty simple
there is nothing stopping you from asking

>>95849041
aren't angron fulgrim and Magnus way less core parts of the army now than they used to be? And Marines got a nerf that strictly nerfs epic hero stacking?

>>95849017
>named characters were deliberately overpowered

I dunno, most weren't too dissimilar to building similar regular HQ choices with wargear, and their special rules weren't silly like now.

>>95849075
I could track down the standard bearer article where jervis johnson says verbatim it is why they required permission

>>95849063
>opponent asks me if I'm okay with him bringing space marines to our game of 40k
Uh, yea mate. That's fine. Carry on.

>>95846089
Nah, they're no bother, just use a resin with a bit of flex to it to save yourself headaches later.

>>95849017
Incorrect. You could easily build better generic HQ's. Special/named characters were reserved more for recreating historical battles. At least in 3rd.

>>95849063
has anyone said no? how do you feel about your opponents using them? have you ever asked them not to?

>>95849075
agreed for Daemonhunters'

>>95849097
>standard bearer article

Wasn't 4th then lad.

>>95849105
>>95846089
Even the skinny lads are fine.

>>95849075
Its pretty much just Bobby Gorillanigger. Angron, Belakor and Magnus have been almost required off and on in their armies, but I don't think any Epic hero has become as strong and as neccessary as bobby is to default space marines. Most Epic Heroes are side grades to genuinely good datasheets that are absolutely skippable if you don't like them.

>>95849063
>every time i play a game I ask my opponent if they're cool with characters like primarchs/abbadon and it's pretty simple
Why would I ask my opponent that when I'm the one that doesn't like special characters in normal games?

>>95848997
speaking of 4th, has anyone tried pic related (Codex: Cityfight)?

>>95848315
>>95848317
>>95848336
The best part of Blood Angels is that the primarch is definitely dead and never coming back.

>>95849126
How bizarre, I was just looking at that very image in another tab 5 minutes ago.

>>95849114
In my experience, pretty much everyone is fine with the 'non major Epic Heroes', thinks like Fierros in IH successors, the Salamander/IF duo ect. Most people are fine with stuff like that, and the 'centerpiece' units are almost on a tier of their own. It's normal to accept a game of SM vs Necrons as Szeras + Imotkh vs the Salamander Duo but if the Void Dragon or Silent King hit the field then most likely there's a Lion/Gorillaman about to hit the table

>>95849023
https://x.com/BerseriaA/status/1714996840700019124
Just put "xcancel" before .com
https://files.catbox.moe/a4brkn.jpg

Also the image itself if you want it.

>>95849126
isnt cityfight the origin of a lot of the current terrain rules?

Does anyone in this thread actually really love playing 10th Edition 40K?

>>95849149
To be fair the Sally duo are basically mandatory to have firestorm do well. Without them the detachment is totally fucked. That’s not a good thing.

>>95849156
Thank you Anon!

>>95849097
Nah, my captain with iron halo, anti-instadeath cloak, and mastercrafted thunderhammer on bike was a beast.

>>95849166
I preferred 9th and 4th myself, but 4th is so long ago it’s mostly nostalgia. I only liked 9th for the custom chapter rules and stuff. Gameplay wise 10th is a lot faster at least.

How smol is this dread?

>>95849166
I think I'd have to go back to 4th-5th if I want to talk about loving playing 40k
>inb4 fake zoomer grog who doesn't own models and doesn't play and doesn't even know what 40k is

>>95849177
No worries.

>>95849191

>>95849191
It's miniature size.

>>95849012
fuck you

>>95849031
Is he OK?

>>95847765
Are you actually going to finish painting these ones or nah

>>95849231
Too smol for 40k then, not worth buying I guess

>>95849242
He's loving it dont kink shame

>>95847832
There's many reasons to ignore the lorefags

>>95847734
Are Knights actually repurposed labor equipment? I have no idea if this is a meme.

>>95849166
I play a couple games a month, it really depends on who I play against. Sometimes I play with someone I don't know that well from the LGS discord and the experience has run from patiently tolerating an annoying autist who isnt fun to hang out with to really cool chill people. Best experience I had recently was a doubles game we organized from the discord and my doubles partner was a butch lesbian type playing battle sisters who was funny as fuck and I had a really good time and we went out for drinks after and got made fun of by the bartender for talking about 40k in a bar.

>>95846036 (OP)
Is anyone a bit disturbed that /40kg/ now takes 10+ hours to reach the designated bump time? Did the 4chan hack have something to do with it?
Though we do use the excuse of image limit to make a new thread earlier I think the image limit should be doubled at this point. Or raised to 250 at least.

>>95847942
It is good music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S00y1hmfBgk

>>95849282
More like multi purpose mech that leaned into being for kaiju killing over time. The knights mainly developed their martial tradition fighting giant monsters.

>>95849292
I think it's highly likely some people didn't come back after the hack, yes. We did get most of our modelposters back so there's that. Also usually slower threads are of better quality and I do feel like /40kg/ is a bit better after the downtime. Not by much mind you but still

>>95849254
it's bigger than the helbrute

>>95849292
Image limit should be raised, yea. But I'm not sure why you care about when we hit bump limit. Name 1 good reason why it bumping faster is a good thing. The times when the thread is bumping in 5 hours the thread is 50% shit flinging from the latest troll thread personality like ******* or ***** ******

>>95849075
Yea, I too remember such obscene game-breaking abilities as Sergeant Lysander's allowing a do-over for the hit roll on bolt weapons of a squad. I always thought that aside from a few particular ones, Special characters weren't all that big of a deal and they seemed more like a fluff choice. I remember things in general for 3rd-5th edition 40k were both more fragile and didn't have the damage output potential of 40k. Unless it was a Old One-Eye or something, your special guy got 3 wounds and a 4+ invul and that's it. But they also weren't slinging 20 attacks per turn.

>>95849319
>******* or ***** ******
Why censor yourself?

>>95849358
the r*ss*an mod bans people who bring them up

>>95849319
>But I'm not sure why you care about when we hit bump limit. Name 1 good reason why it bumping faster is a good thing.
It is just one thing I've noticed.
>>95849313
I think the website is having some problems at the moment.
I already did my 120 seconds to make the posts you're both responding too and the website asks me to redo the 120 minutes again. Maybe that is driving people away.

>>95849314
Still tiny compare to a primaris dread

>>95849166
It's not bad enough to make me quit but it's the worst edition I've played.

Now that the dust has settled, what do we think of him?

>>95849366
Fair

>>95849242
They read him stories every night

>>95849306
Originally, they didn't have the mech at all when arriving on the recently terraformed world? How did they deal with the giant monsters?

>>95849384
Tall and cute
Hard to transport

>>95849384
I try not to think of him

>>95849384
He grew on me desu

>>95849384
incredibly based for filtering so many secondaries.

>>95846137
Mobile warcrime unit almost ready for priming

>>95849384
Would

>>95849384
So this guys weakness is a small string

>>95849415
Worked in WW2

>>95849412
the old ven dread is such a neat model

>>95847860
Superglue brands that are specifically designed for miniature assembly are often available in different viscosities and formulas. When I say "thick superglue" I mean something like BSI Insta-Cure.

Regarding Gorilla Glue... I'm not super familiar with them, but I know they have their tentpole glue product, which is not superglue, but also sell an actual superglue. Make sure what you're using is actual superglue (cyanoacrylate). If what you have is cyanoacrylate gel then that should be fine.

Yes, 1.5mm to 2mm would be perfect. Any thicker than 2mm will start to really fuck up your hobby clippers (if you're lazy like me and use them instead of walking to the basement to grab some wire cutters or tin snips from the toolbox). You can get hollow rod if you don't have a strong pair of clippers, but obviously that'll be less sturdy than the alternative.

>>95849396
What are you talking about?
He can walk to the battlefield with you

>>95849384
I approve
>t. Johnathan Stiltman

Iron Hands players, how are all ten of us feeling about the meta from the latest dataslate

>>95849384
stupidest fucking model in a whole army of lore inaccurate zoomer shit abominations

>>95849384
a travesty. Admech players can't stop taking Ls.

>>95849470
>lore inaccurate

>>95849470
>>95849474
What would you like admech to be?

>>95849470
how to spot a tertiary that gets his lore from sloptubers

>>95849464
I'm bringing a Feirros + 10 heavy int brick to my next game.
I have abandoned Ironstorm though

>>95849486
Nta but 30k + skitarii.

>>95849498
You don't own any models.

>>95849503
you running anvil like a madlad or have you decided to go gladius like literally everyone else except for blood angels?

>>95849483
>>95849486
>>95849498
read old lore shitters

POST MODELS!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

>>95849515
>goalposts shifted
kek

>>95846178
I'm for fem custodes purely to spite custodes players

>>95849436
Thanks mate, I got some random tools that I'm sure can go through 1.5 brass rod. Definitely know not to use my DSPIAE on it.

I've used both superglue and superglue gel from Gorilla and Locite, and honestly can't tell the difference between any of them, just stuck to using gel since it's easier to apply.

Thanks again.

Has gw somewhat given into fanart depiction of female tau?
They kind of gave into the saturnine fan naming convention with Horus heresy.

>>95849521

cope seethe dilate shithead

>>95849191
They're a good size but smaller than a redemptor

>>95849030
>>95848999
Ashes of Prospero says that due to the thinness of the walls of reality around Fenris, the Warp enchanted the planet and spawned entities.

Luthor novella speaks about the world spirirts of the Primarchs homeworlds, calling them and directing their flight in the Waro toward them.

>>95849534
you're the one seething here brother, also you don't own any models

Which armor mark from HH would make sense for a Word Bearers army in 40k? I wish the CSM models were more generic ones and not all Black Legion.

>>95849533
shadowsun anime is coming

Why do those who demand others post models always do it without posting a model?

>>95849533
lmao

>>95849515
I do absolutely remember ye olde lawr where it was written "and lo and behold, the machine pontificated that no skitarius shall ever stand above the others, amenus"

>>95849384
I don't like it.

>>95849533
no, fortunately

>>95849384
Too silly even by 40k silliness standards like primaris desolators.
It still makes me giggle that such models got approval and the twitch reveal chat was singing praises for it.

>>95849412
>>95849430
I know it'll probably never happen and not lot of people would like it probably, but I think it'd be really cool if GW made a redemptor version of this. Like they make a venerable redemptor kit or whatever that mimics this.

It'd be really cool.

>>95849546
The current direction fits the word bearers perfectly.

>>95849375
there are no primaris night lords so why do you care

>>95849519
best gif i've seen in a while

>>95849552
Because then it would be blindly obvious how the vast majority of all shitposts are made by a minuscule percentage of posters.

>>95849585
>there are no primaris night lords
Not with that attitude.

>>95849554
holy yuckola but that doesn't look like my heckin' animu fanart!

>>95849552
because they are pussy ass bitches

>>95849552
anyone demanding models without posting his first should be ignored as a shitposter

>>95849382
Fair I could agree with that sentiment. Just dont really "love" the game like I used to.

>>95849253
I've finished painting loads of them anon!

>>95849394
Not super well described, probably by putting chainswords on the knights.

>>95849514
Some of us don’t give up. Firestorm4life

>>95849253
Tourist

>>95849576
You may be right. I may grab a combat patrol for the Possessed & Master of Possession as both fit the theme.

>>95849552
Because the last time it “somewhat” happened the shitposter got christened the terminatoranon or terminatorfag
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/94411544/#94413758

>>95849637
Do you recommend any good knights books? Are there any on chaos knights?

>>95849658
shitposters really hated having somebody call them out with models to back it up

>>95849519

>>95849528
Dspiae is an entire brand of hobby tools from aliexpress, they make literally everything so I don't think it makes sense to say "my dspiae" wliek everyone knows which tool you're talking about

So wait, marines don’t fall to chaos, chaos just makes them from scratch most of the time?

>>95849665
I want to know where this idea that people who shitpost don't own models, as if owning models seemingly made you a better person?

>>95849533
Ass should be bigger

>>95849658
Oh hey I remember that incident because I’m the one who posted those guard minis.
I was getting into the hobby at the time and was buying used metal models to test paint schemes and paint strip as practice.

>>95849533
Her cock should be visible and ripping her clothes

>>95849683
no they all fall
it's almost impossible for chaos marines to make new marines, all their attempts fail or get destroyed as soon as they succeed
though chaos will revive marines for whatever reason they want which alongside with marines constantly defecting is their excuse for why chaos hasn't been wiped out in the last 10k years

>>95849658
Is that the faggot that got his handwriting ID'd?

>>95849588

>>95849686
lmao hey there nomodels

>>95849710
Yes it is. Not the guard guy the terminator poster.

>Year of chaos
>No new bikes
I hate gw

>>95849617
Pic unrelated?

>>95849724
It wasn’t. Gw only claimed it was the year of chaos in the last article to tell you you’re entitled.

>>95849724
>year of chaos
>no chaos with primaris gear
Is there some kind of canon lore reason for why csm aren’t salvaging primaris weapons and armor and vehicles?

>>95849735
the reason is fuck you, chaosfags are all veterans of the old war

What's a good way to paint a super rusty panel? Like a piece of bare iron that was left out in the elements for a decade? I tried starting brown and then going yellow in kind of a stippling pattern but it's missing something

>>95849751
Not all of them though. See abyssal crusade results and Huron blackheart.

>>95849642
I can't get firestorm to work. There seems to be an intended way to play it, redeemer and lots of flamers, but every army seems to have a can opener that pops the redeemer in one turn and then I sort of just move my dorks around and trade but am unable to score.
It's weird, because the detachment rule and enhancements are really good.

>>95849755
*brown then orange, my bad

>>95849735
Because primaris aren't canon.

>>95849710
Yep. If you see anyone posting about how they're working on a justian killteam and posting a pic of heresy marines then it's him as well

>>95849681
The single-blade cutter that's a rip off godhand

>>95849763
The detachment would work better with lots of rhinos.

It feels like, for a Space Marine list, once you have some regular Intercessors, some Inceptors, and a some Infiltrators, the rest of your list can be quite flavorful and be viable. Maybe battle reports aren’t the best measuring stick, but this is the impression I’m getting.

>>95849735
>Is there some kind of canon lore reason
No.
GW just doesn't do that with the models because they want to keep the CSM and primaris aesthetics separate.
Realistically bunch of traitor would be running around in salvaged/stolen mk10 armor because primaris have had numerous skirmishes against chaos marines at this point.
Hell, there are chaos primaris already and it was hard confirmed to be possible with the Arks of Omen when Angron destoyed that one beacon which then caused khornate madness and corruption to spread to the entire fleet and the entire fleet Quartus was corrupted, all sisters of battle, guardsmen, techpriests and yes even primaris got corrupted. And any who weren't corrupted or somehow resisted then got horribly murdered as their former brothers and sisters in arms turned on them in murderous khorne fueled rage.

If you yourself want to make some chaos primaris, just go for it. But you have to greenstuff and otherwise convert/kitbash all of the details on the armors to make them sufficiently chaos-y looking.

>>95849793
You can just make your list comprised of whatever you want. You don't really NEED anything specific

>>95849735
CSM don't have the supply lines since most Primaris stuff is basically just using surplus stuff and chaos has no surplus

>>95849533
>>95849547
If they looked like that I'd actually play tau

>>95849763
This list I have an almost 60% winrate with. My total in Picrel is skewed by my tau army. https://pastebin.com/F9hP6MXj

>>95849783
A pair at least. The impulsors work better thanks to firing deck, you lose the overwatch but it’s worth it for the extra speed and firepower during your turn.

>>95849844
they can look like that if you want them to

>>95849751
Untrue, CSM literally just kidnaps a bunch of kids and shoves their geneseed inside. Very low rate, but it works.

>>95849686
this post was written by a /v/ermin with an inflated ego

>>95849686
Why do nomodels live here?

>>95849686

>>95849857
That doesn't count, I mean like that in official models and official art.

>>95849866
>>95849874
>>95849879
NTA but you can't honestly believe none of the modelposters shitpost

>>95849887
I believe sallyfag and purpleanon don’t. They’re too consistently polite.

>>95849887
Whatever helps you cope nomodels

>>95849887
This is either a self report that you're a nomodels or a self report that you're a shitstirrer which is it?

Anyone here ever try making up their own assassin temple? Supposedly in the fluff there are many, many more of them in existance beyond the 6 that are known to the fanbase.
Kinda want to try making one.

>>95849166
I don't love it. But my play group has really thrown itself into playing it semi-competitively. We game every weekend, haven't had this much warhams since our middleschool days in 3rd ed.

>>95849801
>khornate madness and corruption to spread to the entire fleet and the entire fleet Quartus was corrupted, all sisters of battle, guardsmen, techpriests and yes even primaris got corrupted.
Arks of omen angron was it?
Is this nihilus or Sanctus territory and what page number can I get it to take a glance when I get the pdf copy?

>>95849384
He's not a good looking model, and the lanky legs are both a nightmare to transport. Of course they gave him the most obtuse possible bits hanging out so he could be seen behind any terrain that isn't an L Shaped wall. It sucks even worse because Horus Heresy got an entire legion cybernetica range that isn't fucking usable in 40k!

>>95849887
Many people are just capable of "changing" out the "casette" when they want to do something else.
It is very easy to stop being a sperging cunt who posts whatever opinions he has and then just change to a more regular mode.

>>95849910
>Arks of omen angron was it?
Yes.
>Is this nihilus or Sanctus territory and what page number can I get it to take a glance when I get the pdf copy?
I don't remember which, but I know it mentioned what I said.
Only people in the fleet who weren't corrupted, were Grey Knights, Custodes and SoS, whch makes sense.
2 are intended to be entirely incorruptable and 1 is just 100% immune to the Warp and its effects entirely.

>>95849910
Nihlus.

>>95849891
>They’re too consistently polite.
Somehow most modelposters are like that.
Why’s that?
Are they maintaining an image/reputation on an anonymous board?
Are they just feeling good from dopamine payout from actually hobbying?
Trying to be above the shitposter rabble?
Are they actually isolated relaxed monks?

>>95849934
We've seen from O&Tfag that it's all a front

Gonna paint some Genestealers, I can't decide if I should cover the whole body in carapace like it's in the above or only keep it on the back and paint the rest in the same purple flesh tone. I'm probably gonna do some heavy drybrushing either way, these critters just beg to be drybrushed.

>>95849944
He never sperged out, just got baited into an argument and posting his models

>>95846633
Primarchs are 10 feet tall

>>95849921
>>95849931
Thanks! Has gw been making examples of why the nihilus is worse than Sanctus without just saying it is?

>>95849934
Well, the thing is the reputation is not just tied to this board. If you're screeching about women while showing off your fully painted army that you have photos of on instagram or facebook or whatever it can be tied back to you.

Anyone know where I can find 7th edition Codex's? Primarily looking for full 7th editions Space Marine, elder, and CSM.

Thanks in advance.

>>95849957
primarchs are 11-16 feet tall

>>95849964
I feel retarded for not thinking about that anon. Thank you for that angle I never would have thought to consider.

>>95849964
You need to be unironically mentally deficient to post something that can be traced back to an irl account on 4chan.

>>95849974
What if I want to post my models on other places? Do I just use a different background so google image search won’t find it?

>>95849958
GW hasn’t mentioned a fucking thing about what’s happening in the Nihlus aside from some codex blurbs here and there. Most of its an unknown, but you can assume shit’s bad.

>>95849987
Why would you ever want to post them here if you have other places to do so? But yes, different backgrounds, angles and lighting should be enough

>>95849987
Yeah. Or post them on discord, google image search doesn’t check it. Though by sheer coincidence you may still end up recognized.

>>95850006
I've seen a lot of you fuckers in the eons of battle discord

>>95849999
>Why

This place is far more honestly critical. Most other places are just hugboxes with no true advice.

>>95849999
I was thinking of deviant art or the lgs discord server or even having a friend commission art of my guardsmen and be able to post a picture of my dudes to show his audience the guard references he used.

>>95846633
No. You are literally just making shit up. Even the head sculptor of GW, the guy who DESIGNED SPACE MARINES PERSONALLY, has said this is complete bullshit.

>>95850012

>>95850012
I’ve seen Sallyanon and Severanon post in my LGS discord several times. You’ll never know who I am though.

>>95850015
This is honestly the biggest reason why I have posted my models here in the past for genuine honest criticisms.
Redditors sugar coat their shit with “not trying to be mean” and things like that to the point where you don’t give a fuck about the point of the post because you gotta go through a paragraph to get to the point.
Xitter and bluesky users don’t say anything to be honest.