Previously:
>>95873790Mono White Edition
>Most recent bracket system updatemagic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025
>Outline article introducing the bracket systemmagic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta
>Current banlistmagic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned
>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeemtgcommander.net
>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internetwww.edhrec.com
>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceswww.archidekt.com
www.moxfield.com
www.tappedout.net
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identitymanagathering.com
>Official Reddithttps://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/
>Card searchscryfall.com
>Make custom cardsmagicseteditor.boards.net
mtg.design
mtgcardsmith.com
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheappastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)
>How to proxy using any printermtgprint.cardtrader.com
>Preconsmagicprecons.com
TQ: Favorite Mono White Commander?
>>95881513 (OP)>TQ: Favorite Mono White Commander?Skrelv and it's not even close. Fuckin love that little goober
>>95881501>"defend against anything">insults >more insults >even more insults>absolutely pure schizophrenia>lack of reading comprehensionnigga you're only showing (you) are mad af
>>95881513 (OP)>tqThe other Thalia is super gay
anyone know how Hareruya Commander power ratings work for their weekly games?
considering putting an EDH deck together to play casually there (and hopefully farm wins).
It would have to be green and land-based though.
How good are Asuza decks?
This is a bit of an esoteric line of questioning, but do you guys randomize the seating arrangement with your pod between play sessions? I always play with the same three friends, and we noticed that since we always sat and the same exact positions, it ended up causing some weird psychological-gameplay stuff like for example how it feels a lot better to be sitting diagonally from the dedicated control player than it does to be sitting next to him, since it means you'll never be the first person in line when they pass the turn and have all their mana open
>>95881537>play casually there (and hopefully farm wins).These are opposing goals
Usually in our pod whoever has the most proxies goes first
Whoever has the most expensive deck goes last
Recasting commanders costs +2 life
Also if you play a counterspell you have to play finger flicking 20 times
Everyone plays proxies and we go home with swollen fingers
>>95881513 (OP)>TQI'm building this
>>95881569uwu anime cat girl owoo ToT
>>95881569>gets equipped with 4 hammers, 2 pairs of boots, and 3 suits of armor>I'll let you choose the blade that slays you
>>95881525Anon, you were mad enough to grudepost bwahahhaha
As usual proxyfags are unable to defend their position without also accepting ai art
>>95881480Not worth it. I got mine for $75 dollarydoos which was nearly 50% off the base price of $130 dollarydoos. I got Lyse Hext as one of them (which I needed for Noyan-Dar), but the other was the uncommon mono red Barret. If both cards were of rare rarity or higher Iโd say go for it, but otherwise it isnโt really worth it. Iโm also biased because I got badly dicked with my pack pulls.
>>95881597>ai art bad>proxies goodThese aren't exclusive positions.
Here are the pros and cons of using ai art
Pros
>access to any art you want without giving money to people who think drawing is still a livable profession in the year of our lord 2025, it's only right to fuck them over, they need to face reality
>doesn't gatekeep anyone from joining the community
>some art are really just not worth the price tag on the sec market
>everybody can have fun
>you can alter art to your hearts content
>anyone who wants to force you to consume "real" art is a retarded luddite who thinks you're "stealing" so you already have filtered them out
>you don't give artist any money for their shitty worldviews, the romans were right in thinking lowly of them and so should you
Cons
>none
Using ai art is your god given duty, Anon.
>>95881597Damn, you really are still trying to proxy a victory?
Take your L and move on, retard
>>95881604You're just ok with "stealing" from the big bad corpo but not "stealing" from an individual artist (instead of being against stealing in principle), as to be expected from the majority liberal mtg population
>>95881605>he can't drawkek
>>95881610Why would the anti proxy guy proxy a victory?
Way to go projecting KEK
>>95881614Drawing is for plebs, like coding and voice acting
The future is now old man
>>95881617That's not being friendly to immigrants amigo
>>95881620>Drawing is for plebs, like coding and voice actingYou don't even have a job
>>95881613It's the opposite tho
stealing from big shitty corpo that kills the game and feeds scalpers which also have used ai slop to feed your shilling ass = good
Stealing from private persons does not compare you absolute macaque
Anon, trying to farm (you)s is one thing, but you really oughta stop being this incredibly mentally challenged. You're just gonna get schooled no matter how many
>omg cringe mad cope no ur wrong because i say so haha can't refuteyou spam afterwards
if only you could read tho
>>95881625I have money to buy real cards though, like any other anti proxy guy
Baffling riposte
>>95881630>doesn't refute itCongrats on spending your neetbux on paper.
>>95881629>muh dead gameMagic is still alive though?
I agree however that an age of magic has come and gone, and that is a shame
If proxyfags had any moral fiber they would never proxy anything beyond (the set they put a red line at) but funnily enough they proxy the same UB slop they purport to hate
Once again you prove that there are no wrong tactics, only wrong targets, you would be perfectly ok with stealing from whatever target you hate, because liberals have no standards
>>95881634Happy to keep the game alive for freeloaders!
I mean, i keep fatasses alive through healthcare tax, what's a few more low social iq mtg lards lol
>>95881641Magic died years ago and Hasbro has just been puppeting it's corpse since.
>>95881646You need a job to pay taxes.
>>95881641Anon, i am starting to think you really do not know what proxies are.
>mind controls the entire table into killing it's controller
>>95881655Proxies can be as beautiful as black cores and as ugly as sharpied basic lands
Cmon anon do better than that, is this all you proxyfags can muster?
>>95881652Christ almighty thank god casuals pay and keep this game running (yes wotc is awful, but that's beside the point)
>>95881662>he actually doesn't know what proxies areOk, stop posting now, donkey.
>>95881662>all the new sets are shit>thank god they keep making themwhales lmao
>>95881657>deck built around giving your opponents good cards
>>95881664>pleas stop posting we cant take it anymore we have nothingLmao
>>95881667I too hate what western art has become so i proxy them too, no biggie
I use Captain America to throw Excalibur.
>>95881673>Please try to argue against my relentless insults and strawmenMan, did you get banned of r*ddit or some shit?
>>95881673>defender of the western world>brown south american that barely speaks english
https://youtu.be/onh5PlvdsW8?si=tfKZO1Bx-uL-QmGR
>>95881683I'm not the one melting down over proxyfags unknowingly arguing for ai art though, like literally your arguments are the same ones tech bros use, the lack of understanding is laughable
>>95881684Not my fault california is overrun by south americans you lefty, you voted for that lol
>>95881671>deck built around giving your opponents good head
>>95881695>i'm not the one [insert literal schizophrenic episode here]banned off plebbit it is then
literally no one argue for ai slop, it's all made up by you because you're the one having a spergout
just shut the fuck up man who talks like that? kill yourself
https://moxfield.com/decks/yuK8gIobn0WfLmL3RrENGg
There's more mutants than I realized, how many are worth playing though?
>>95881695You're melting down so hard that every argument and insult you have is based on things you're making up. You're a seething projecting lib that's just mad that all your shitty people are being sent back to you.
Oh, is that retarded? Because it's you.
>>95881706>no one should argue for ai slop, have some self reapect, support the artist>but hey the next time you go to a legacy event bring your scribbled over basic lands and if they dont like that then fuck them, have some self respect, don't support the big bad corpoAh white liberals
>>95881695>like literally
>>95881714You're the lib here though because libs have no idea that their ideas arent be sustainable, proxying can never be mainstream and will always be a private affair between friends/casual playtesting
>>95881723Thanks for proving that i'm as white as the rest of you :)
>>95881720>but hey the next time you go to a legacy eventedh general + why would your friends care
>>95881720>another schizophrenic episodeYou have the infinite reach of the internet at your disposal and this is the best you can come up with?
Just buzzwords and one liners? This isn't funny it's just brain rot
Goddamn
you really need to kill yourself
do yourself that favor
>NOOOOO YOU CANT PROXY BECAUSE IF DO YOU YOURE POOR AND I AM RICH AND YOU LIKE AI ART ARGUE MEEEEE AGREEE WITH ME AND YOURE MAD MELTDOWN CRINGEEEEEEEEEE
nigga thinks because he's getting replied to that he's accomplishing something
>>95881729>it's not sustainable>says guy that thinks ai art is good
>>95881530>thaliastacks of hate bears 99?
>>95881730Oh sorry, i meant bracket 3 edh + same idea imagine being so poor and so shameless tgat you show up to a pod of stangers unable to afford a vampiric tutor in a luxury hobby that uses cardboard
>>95881731Funny how you claim that i do nothing but insult when you've already told me to kms several times
Just liberal things i guess lmao
>>95881736Dude you can proxy in your basement, wtf are you smoking?
Just dont be surprised if you're looked down upon when you show up outside with that shit, proxyfags seek validation so much its unrea
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>>95881737>it's sustainable>guy who thinks proxying should be done by everybody
>>95881751Do you think i go to events where no-fun-allowed spergs like you are? In the absolute cancerous state of this game? lmao fucking kill yourself
Official events are worthless
>but you told me to kmsDeserved for being a faggot
I understand that no one ever tells you to fuck off because they usually just avoid interacting with your crossdressing ass
>le liberal le liberal ooooh le libarealeaThat has no effect on me, you stupid nigger.
>BUT YOU WILL BE LOOKED DOWN UPON AND YOURE POORlmao you fucking normalnigger
You have no personality
You have no hobbbies
You have no original thoughts
You will never achieve the level of social worth you wish you have
You will always be a mutilated negroid
Btw the only thing i am feeling is disgust towards your hollow, shallow existence, disdain even
You are the equivalent of ai slop, or a gacha tranny
You really should look into taking your own life
>>95881738Not gonna lie I'm kind of a noob so I'm not quite sure what a hate bear is.
I still use like a dozen non-creatures (a couple of graveyard spells, some artifacts). The rest is just other creatures I like (combat thresher <3), some creatures that double as removal or other things (skyclave apparition, that land finding farmer), and then some angels for flying.
Pic related is actually the best card of all time. I swear to god everyone in this thread please try it out. Good target for buffs, good revival target, a draw, good to exile then return. I would use this as my commander if I could.
If i was the anti proxy lib bruh id kill myself fr
>>95881789>Do you think i go to events where no-fun-allowed spergs like you are?Your insane ramblings aside, thanks at least for self containing yourself in your basement proxyfag
Never lrave your isolated island and let the new generation of casuals support the system from now on, it's fine, we'll carry on despite wotc being shit
>>95881751>Just dont be surprised if you're looked down upon when you show up outside with that shitAnon do you actually play EDH? Never met a soul that gave a shit. Actually never, not once in hundreds of games.
>>95881790I don't play... ew... creatures.
>>95881805A "man" being so passive aggressive as to not even give a (You) is very homosexual ngl
>>95881807People dont care because they just want to play, profitability and sustainability is the job of organizers
As for me at least make your proxies look good so i dont have to think how poor you are that you had to scribble over basic lands
>>95881806>because you dont go to events you actually stay in your basementMy LGS has a consensus about proxies being fine. We teach kiddies how to play and give them proxy decks so they stay off the streets.
We also play other tcgs, and board games too.
Nigga, you will never earn any respect no matter how much money you waste on cardboard.
>>95881819Post deck, no online decklists ether. Gotta be a real picture after all the strutting about no proxies.
>>95881825>my lgs has a consensus of proxies being fine>hey we even help kids!>btw dont mind the lgs selling overpriced cardboard... uh, you should buy it though cuz... it's the right thing to do?So close and yet so far
>>95881829Sorry im on vacation for father's day im just on phone lol
>>95881840Sasuga antiproxy-san
>>95881832>every LGS is the same oneDon't blame me because your botched tranny ass is too ashamed to go outside
Imagine being a
>tranny
>phonefag
>antiproxy
>not posting deck
>begging for (you)s
>defending the multibillion corporation
jeez man it's the best cattle coomsumer wotc could ever ask for
>YOURE POOR
literally how broke ass dick sucking for a pair of nikes hood niggers talk
>>95881751>Just dont be surprised if you're looked down upon when you show up outside with that shit, proxyfags seek validation so much its unreaOh no some unkepmt out of shape nerd is going seethe at me for using a piece of cardboard to play a silly nerd card game because it wasn't printed explicitly by printer X! Oh fuck bros how am I going to sleep at night?!
Genuine troon thought processes lmao get a fucking grip anon
>>95882050Since half of the people ITT are just arguing about proxies, I'll throw my hat into the ring and say that I've got three 100% proxy decks, and the reasons I have them are because:
1) I don't feel like ordering a bunch of cards from a multitude of different places
2) I don't feel like paying that much money for singles of cards that came out before I even started playing the game, like Mindcrank
3) I wanted the cards to use sexy anime art because it makes my friends laugh and I enjoy adult content in my media
Since this is a blue board I can't share most of them, so have this Ranni Island I made up for my FromSoft Waifu Azorius Group Hug deck
>TQNever built mono white for commander, though I'd likely go Teshar or Sram if I did, simple value engines
Putting together a Gogo list and got plenty ideas for card draw, removal etc but need an actual wincon.
Don't really want to win via mill and would prefer no infinite combos. Currently got the millennium calendar, any other neato wincons for Gogo?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>95882091I'd definitely look at what you can do with artifacts
>Aetherflux Reservoir and Alhammarret's Archive are always good, combo beautifully into a triple knockout against most pods>Could play around with energy counters. Blue gives you plenty of access to energy counter generation and proliferate, and Consulate Turrent is a solid way to put Gogo's ability to use in the mid-to-late game. Going this way also allows for an artifact/vehicle package>While maybe not as volatile as a Grixis variant, you could use things like Scrawling Crawler and Psychosis Crawler and make a blue-draw-burn deck, using Gogo to double abilities giving you draws which in turn escalate the burn the above cards and others can do>Thassa's Oracle is always a great solo wincon, though I can't necessarily promise outright synergy
>>95882120How does that win the game beyond rage quits?
>>95882169thanks for the detailed reply! def gives me some ideas.
>>95882120>>95882173It's an interesting idea, but not necessarily as consistent as he might like. Mono blue has recursion but not enough to make it consistent. Though this as a combo in a Simic landfall? Yeah, that'd be kinda scary. Sure, you only need it to go off once and it can be brutal, but it's basically the Invincible meme when you hold that strategy up to a single copy of Armageddon
>>95882177My pleasure
>>95881657It's a guarantee every time. Mill just has that effect.
>>95881915That's kind of cool. Giving Bushido feels like a rare ability.
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help me make cuts
basically lower power comfort deck, just make fungi and sac them for shit
please don't say sheoldred, I've been trying to put her in something for a year now
>>95882201The fun part is you don't need the counter to keep bushido, so you can use things that eat counters like pic related. Nemesis mask goes hard with deathtouch and trample
>>95882182>>95882173He might already want crucible because he's insane with fetch lands that you'll even want the shitty ones, and you might as well play Stripmine, Wasteland, Tec Edge, and Demo Field for sure. Maybe dust bowl and volatile fault. It doesn't really cost anything since it's just in the manabase and copying one after ramping off a fetch is probably enough to cripple someone out of the game. Do one after really ramping and you can hit the whole table.
There are probably a bunch of ability tutors that are effectively one-card combos with gogo if you want to be lame. Almost certainly something 5 cmc tezzeret can get. Muddle the mixture gets scepter/reversal/monument/something to spend it on.
>>95882212>you don't need the counter to keep bushidoNow that is a cool detail. Didn't even realize the two were separate when I read the effect. And multiple Bushido means you can pump up things pretty well with that Nemesis Mask and other effects.
>>95882204I'll concede right now I'm no master deck builder, but I'd hope to help
>You're running BoP, Elvish Mystic, Llanowar Elves, Elves of Deep Shadow and Fyndhorn Elves. Mana dorks are important, but you're also running a wide array of cards that turn your creatures into mana dorks. Surely you can cut two of these and still draw into something consistently>Nuclear Fallout. Not a bad piece of removal to be sure, but rads can backfire. Yes, they give you more mills, but it's mills that also burn you. Granted, they do burn opponents too. But that said, it's a dangerous game to let yourself burn >Finale of Devastation is a bit of a hit-or-miss here. You're clearly running a mill strategy for yourself to set up pieces, between milling it and milling the preferred pieces you'd want this to combo into, it's not a bad card but might work for a more stomp-heavy deck>Beastmaster Ascension can make the deck more stompy, but perhaps you might be better off focusing on a more Aristocrat-style play. If you wanna go stomp, keep it, if you wanna go Aristocrats, drop it>Cityscape Leveller/Colossal Grave-Reaver. Again, this one depends on whether you're trying to go stompy or aristocrats, but having more cmc8 than cmc6 is a little worrying to me>Triumph of the Hordes. Yes, in a token deck, it can be a one shot and that's pretty brutal. That said, if you're looking for lower power comfort, this might set the wrong vibe>Skirge Familiar. You're gonna be doing a bit of drawing, sure, but I'm not convinced the deck is drawing so consistently you'd be using this effect to its best. That said, given the number of Dredge cards you're running I can see you having at least that much of a consistent resource to keep going into things but only for one, maybe two discards per turn. You'd be better off relying on the rest of your mana base, the moments this will clinch it seem few and far between>>95882236That is a fair point. Surely a one-off couldn't hurt if he has it
>>95882194Mill has always gotten casuals weirdly upset like you destroyed their ability to play now because you milled a card they were going to draw. There's some weird emotional reaction to seeing a card you like get put in the yard even though it's not robbing you of any tempo and might even be helping you.
>>95882397I proxied a Mothman deck, with a handful of decent cards thrown in. My friends REALLY don't like it
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I have no problem with Universes Beyond but I refuse to mix them into decks with Universes Within cards. Anyone else do the same?
>>95882415cringe, mothman is already cute, he doesn't need anime girl proxies
>>95882314>mana dorksI feel like getting a turn 1 mana dork is very important if you have a 3 mana commander, especially here where I prioritize permanents because of descend and I'm not running sorcery land ramp
>nuclear falloutrad counters are rad and it's theoretically a wincon
plus it's the only on theme board wipe I can think of
>finaleI feel like it's a two in one for very strong effects in early and late game
>the stompiesyeah these two can probably go, they're kinda winmorey
>triumphI've had a foil one sitting in my binder since like 2014 and I haven't had a deck that could use it
I don't really see how it's more powerful than craterhoof
>skirgeit's literally just a way to repeatedly throw dredge things into the yard, maybe it doesn't need to be on such an expensive body but it's the first thing I thought of
>>95882440Fair points. I also noticed you've got like 50 creatures on your list. That seems the place you could afford to trim down most I reckon. Exact count, you need to drop 13 cards so 6-7 off the creatures and the rest off the other card types perhaps? I wouldn't touch your land count though, given you're not running a more standard green ramp package like Rampant Growth/Cultivate/Kodama's Reach, etc. 38 feels a good number
>>95882439I feel you, that said the theme was Monster Girls, and Mothman is a man so it'd be weird. Guess I could've done a Hugh Heffner thing but it's already been printed, hindsight is 20/20 huh?
>>95881583Every time someone plays a counter they get slapped on the balls by the opponent in our games.
Blue players still fucking use counters. They can't stop themselves. It's almost like Blue decks are 100% useless if they can't just stop the other player from playing the game.
>>95882397mill is ressource denial and any ressource denial is gonna annoy some people, especially casuals.
just try to play a Thalia, or some card that consistently discards a lot of cards. yet mill players always wanna be the special boys who "actually arent that bad guise, let me just attack with my 20/20 mothman and your entire removal suite in your graveyard :( "
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should this deck go the landfall way or +1/+1 counters? Also recommend me some secret spice please :^)
>>95882520>Blue isn't allowed to play removal because I said so
>green
broccoli
>white
mayo
>blue
water
>red
meat (raw)
>black
meat (charred)
this is the official food analogy list for mtg colors. the color-combinations you play are ultimately a testament to your masculinity.
>proxyfags melting down for almost 18 hours straight
Lmao love to see it.
Who should I choose to pilot my mono white astral slide deck
Which Commanders out of this list should I build? I'm having trouble deciding which ones I should go with
>>95882415how could you ever be mad at this sweet little mothgirl?
I WILL use my removal on the biggest threat to YOU
>>95883218Thats a really bad idea you should feel bad FFfag
Which Commanders out of this list should I build? I'm having trouble deciding which ones I should go with
>>95883388Not a single one of these is an interesting card
>>95883391Can you suggest me a commander that you think is interesting
UB tourist just getting in to commander. I got all four precons. I'm looking to build my own decks too. I was looking in to how the bracket system works and wondering if I'm supposed to build a deck for each bracket? It says the precons are all 2, so I need to build a deck for 1, 3, 4 and 5 right?
Need some critique of my Chess Deck. Its 32 creatures, each representing a chess piece with spells that reflect chess and the moves in it.
https://archidekt.com/decks/13830649/the_chess_deck
>>95883440cool idea and flavor, but I'm not gonna analyze a flavor deck
love the horses
>>95882415No one likes mothman because hes very fast and also does mill
>>95883396Ambrosia Wildheart
Banon
Fandaniel (I might actually build this one)
Joshua
Stiltzkin
Urianger
These are the only interesting FF commanders
>>9588341395% of the decks you will see will be brackets 2-4
1 is joke decks, like "every card has art of people sitting in a chair", its intended to be silly and unlikely to win
5 is CECH which is much more competitive and might as well be a different game entirely. Those decks can cost tens of thousands and it doesn't play like regular commander. The games can last double digit hours just arguing rules interactions, no joke.
Your precons will be just fine for playing against other people with bracket 2 decks and probably many bracket 3 decks. There is no need to rush into things, just find a commander you like and build them, we can always offer advice here.
>>95883413Ignore brackets, no one of anyworth uses them.
You willlose a lot because you do not understand the game and dont know how to play and thats okay. It's a multiplayer format so being seen as not a threat can be very powerful.
>>95883463Stiltzkin is the only interesting one on this list
Proxyfags bore me because the only real reason to proxy is that you want to run expensive staples. Otherwise, you can just acquire the cards for relatively cheap. On top of that it's a TRADING CARD GAME. Building up your collection is part of the fun.
Even when I was running a $10 Memnarch Mirrodin deck back in 2010 I fucking despised the idea of proxies, and 15 years later I still despise them.
>>95881513 (OP)>tqI mean, there's just no question.
>>95881605>access to any art you want Unless you want something that isnโt generic and derivative, of course. Canโt get an AI to do that without enough work that youโd have been better off just commissioning an actual artist.
>deck follows a simple plan
>plan gets interrupted
>>95881513 (OP)What's a good place for kemo proxies like OP?
>>95883625If a deck can't handle being interacted with, it's a bad deck and deserves to lose. And that goes double for a PLAYER who can't handle being interacted with.
Y'shtola is such a boring slop commander. They just took Sygg, River Cutthroat's design and made it generically more powerful + self-enabling.
>if YOU so much as pay 4 life on another player's turn you still get the card
>do thing draw, except the thing is playing Magic cards
No wonder this waifu trash card is rising in the EDHrec ranks, she's the goodstuffiest legendary in ages.
>>95883625>simple plan is so simple it instantly recovers
>>95883625>deck follows Simple Plan>plan gets weezered
>>95883662>they powercrept a 17 year old cardtell me more
>>95883707>THAT'S what you got out of the postOkay faggot
>>95883625>deck follows a simple plan>it works
>>95883692How my board looks when I hold up blockers.
These threads now are literally just one shitter complaining about UB, nobody talks about commanders, games or decks
>>95883726How my table looks when everyone's getting mana screwed/flooded and nobody wants to commit
>>95883753Perhaps /r/edh would be a better fit for you
>>95883753>These threads now are literally just one shitter complaining one shitter complaining about UB, nobody talks about commanders, games or decksSo where has your commander journey taken you recently?
I'm wondering whether I should take apart a deck or not. Gonna play it one more time this week and if I don't like it I'll scrap it.
>>95883761I don't think so.
>>95883753>no negativity!Where do you think you are faggot?
>>95883463>UriangerHe would be much more interesting if he was templated in a way that allows him to use previously exiled cards even if he was recast. Something like pic related
>>95883769Negativity is fine but there needs to be content here too
>>95882397I was going to draw the card I needed and you milled me. You removed my card. This is not Schrodinger's Deck, the card I needed was the one you made me throw away. We can all see that. Now you die.
>>95883523I said this the other day the proxyfags whined and claimed they were all running budget decks, I challenged a single one to post an actual picture if their budget proxy decks, no one did but lots of fags moaned
>>95883762I've been realizing that building underplayed commanders is the real fun of the game, but my group are all power gamers.
So my decks end up being at both ends of the spectrum, I have commanders with 400 decks on edhrec and then I also build top 100 to compete with them
>>95883753>just oneLol
>>95883772I agree but he is in the right colors for untapping and protection. And just fun big spells thats the main draw to me I might actually make him the commander of my planar guide gather specimens deck
>>95883753Its also the same troon that complains nonstop about proxies and fills up each thread with their retarded straw manning and shit that didn't happen posting. Just laugh at their seethe and then ignore them.
What would you like to talk about
>>95883809>being AGAINST proxies makes you a troon>n-no, see, my cardboard cutout is the same as the real thing!Sorry proxytranny
>>95883762NTA but I made a deck with the intention of just chilling in low power games but I'm realizing that my LGS is just too high power for a turbo casual goad deck to do anything other than piss people off.
Not sure how I can fix the problem since I'm awful at deck building.
>>95883809Let's talk about what cards or commanders everyone is excited about from the newest set, Final Fantasy
>>95883815Literally everyone can identify you simply from the way you post and type, and your posts are pointless
>>95883833Your duals will never be real Lilith
>>95883822Tifa. My pod has a couple of combo dweebs in it and I'm pumped that there's finally a simple mono color commander that's aggressively costed so I can kill them faster than they can stella off with good honest turn creature sideways magic the way garfield intended.
>>95883848This is literally a combo commander
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>>95883753>Post IRL decks!>It's just coomproxies/edhg/ died in 2022, we're just swimming in its corpse
>>95883861No it's not and I'm not going to get in a pointless semantics war with you you cringe nerd.
I built arixmethes, its great, but now everyone nows once the big kraken hits fields its over so i become hyperfocus before i can megaramp, whats good control options to prevent die and be able to cast the crab and not obliterated
>>95883848Based honestly, she looks cool and I think the design is powerful. I really enjoy building mono color in general
>>95883872You're in simic. You have every answer in the game.
>counter spells>indestructible spells
>>95881807If you tell me you have a few proxies in your deck, that's fine, if you have an entire deck of proxies bullshit and are just trying to pubstomp, then I will care. Unfortunately my power is limited to just not play with such a person
>>95883869It absolutely is its just a combat combo. You will pump her and ramp her and one shot someone that is a combo
>>95883872>whats good control options to preventYou have to fucking ask this, in blue of all colors??? There's so many 1-2 cost counterspells that prevent shit from happening, and they're all worth 25 cents or less
>>95883878Monocolor is based as hell and FF gave us some really good ones. I hope we keel getting new good monos in future sets, I'm sick of WURBG and tricolor slop piles.
>>95883892>Mono white cloud>Mono black sephiroth>Mono green tifa>Mono red Vincent>Mono black Vincent >Mono white cid>Mono white aerithYeah I'm super happy that we got a lot of cool mono color options
I no he's one of the more popular ones but I'm probably going to build sephiroth because I was lucky enough to pull him, thinking about building cloud alongside it as a pair. I got to say though green Tifa and Red Vincent both look super tempting as well.
>>95883933>boring>boring>boring>all boringUnbelievable how delusional FF fags are. Not a single one of these is doing anything interesting with the color.
>>95883949You already got seething FF fags to reply. But I completely agree.
>WAOW MONO BLACK ARISTOCRATS??>WAOW MONO WHITE EQUIPMENT TRIBAL??>WAOW MONO GREEN VOLTRON???These people are either new to commander or easily impressed.
>>95883848Fynn the fangbearer has existed for ages, you're just going with Tifa instead because of tits, be honest anon
>>95883959>>95883985Get some taste there are actually good mono color legendaries that aren't the most generic things imaginable you hylic fucks
>>95883994Wouldn't be bad if there was at least a slight hoop to jump through but nah nothing to work out. Tifa has trample in the best color to give it to her make them work a little bit wotc cmon
>>95884009Fynn really doesn't have that much in common with Tifa aside from being an aggressive 2mv green commander.
>>95884009I said honest magic, not gay magic. Winning through giving people STDs is your mom's thing, not mine.
>>95883949>>95883848Honestly I even like this design better than the tifa that comes with the pre-con
Bit of a weird question: whats the best strategy or tech in mono black for fucking over one player *in particular*? I want to make a deck that singles out an opponent and just nukes them as hard as possible, even if it leaves me open to reprisals from other players.
I'm thinking stuff like Curse of the Cabal, or maybe curses.
>>95883933I pulled Red Vincent. Hoping to trade him to my buddy for the black version they pulled.
>>95884009>Fynnnearly screwed me at draft this weekend. what a nasty card to show up on turn 2.
related commander.
cracked a foil noctis, and zidane. Also got a knights of the round, too bad i dont have a good deck for it.
>>95883888If it doesn't go infinite it's not a combo. What you are referring to is a synergy, i.e. when the resulting effect is greater than the sum of its parts.
Any good FF card for a theft/cast opp cards deck??
>>95884112NOOOO VALIDATE MY PURCHASE ANON I SPENT $800 ON A COLLECTOR'S BOX
>>95884116Yeah there's a couple. Locke and zidane
>>95884081Hyper focus one of them with discards and kill them with their own shit.
>>95884119This right here is the guy that you should ignore every single thread. He always posts the same way
>>95884081curses, curse of misfortune, swing in then cast Hatred, the big black mana only fireballs,
then you're gonna flip zenos, right?
>>95884105No if it doesn't win the game its not a combo. Infinite is irrelevant. Thassas doesn't go infinite and its still a combo. Kill yourself FF tourist.
>>95884131Thassa's is not a combo
hey guys check out this cool new combo deck I found!
>first you tap a swamp
>then you play dark ritual
>then you play Mogis's Marauder and swing at your opponent!
I love combos!
>>95884131So if I Chandra 's Ignition a 30 power Kresh and it doesn't end the game that turn, that's not a combo to you?
>>95884124>skeleton>has muscles
>>95883949they hated him because he told them the truth
>>95884165>>95884136>>95884154Combos win the game. That is how they have always been defined in magic.
>>95884166tinybones art has been super inconistent if hes some generic undead, or like pure skelly.
>>95884173according to whom
Watch out guys major combo tech comin' through
>>95884173So all those years Rakdos Cat Oven wasn't a combo?
>>95881688My favorite Tekken character!
>>95884180According to the entire history of magic which you would know if you weren't a tourist and/or retarded
>>95884173That's absolutely false
>>95884199did they write it down somewhere
Splinter Twin and Deciever Exarch isn't a combo. The tokens win the game, not the cards themselves.
>>95883413IS THIS A MAN OR A WOMAN?!?!?
>>95884196This does nothing anon... you sac it once and you can return it once... so yes. These two cards are not a combo
>>95883761It isn't much different
>>95884220it's not an infinite combo but it is a combo
>>95884204>>95884209Quite literally since the very first release and channel fireball was discovered
>>95884196that's just a synergy. no one calls cat oven a combo deck
This whole time I was playing a combo deck :(
>>95884229It has to be infinite to be a combo. Otherwise it is a synergy. Words have meanings.
>>95884229Its not a combo at all.
>>95883848Tifa is a shittier Mossborn Hydra. Prove me wrong.
>>95884252Infinite combos can give you infinite mana and not win
>>95881513 (OP)Tfw I know who the artists is.
>>95884232Channel Fireball doesn't win you the game by itself
>>95884229>posts half a combo>LOOK A COMBO!??????
>>95884257I don't have to prove you wrong it's obvious to everyone that you're wrong
>>95884257Mossborn Hydra can't be in the command zone
>>95884112>G-GET OUT! If I throw enough of a fit I'll """"""""""gatekeep""""""""" and they'll all leave and quit the game and then send me letters to let me know they quit the game! GRRRRRRRGatekeeping is a myth for nerds.
>>95884266You know you don't have to reply when you dont know what youre talking about anon
>>95884240https://blog.cardkingdom.com/combo-crash-course-cat-oven/
>>95884220>>95884240https://blog.cardkingdom.com/combo-crash-course-cat-oven/
https://mtgrocks.com/mtg-cat-and-oven-combo-surges-thanks-to-bloomburrow-powerhouses/
https://www.tcgplayer.com/content/article/A-New-Kind-of-Cat-Combo/979fe99c-4571-43c7-93fe-72b11bf29e4d/?srsltid=AfmBOoqdhzNVi5haTRhHgYF_jbXP6AspSMTTWihjC3iyYolFa0yylaxf
https://www.thegamer.com/magic-the-gathering-mtg-cat-oven-explorer/
I legit, dont understand what you get from lying.
>>95884128>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST POST THE SAME WAY EVERY THREAD!
>>95884283then why do the gatekept keep complaining about gatekeeping
>>95884283Anon this very post proves gatekeeping is both good and necessary. When you're an adult you'll understand
>>95884286>permanent buff vs temporary for one manayeah
>>95884303Gatekeeping is when you physically prevent someone from doing something. Being retarded on 4chan is not gatekeeping because you have not done anything at all. Do you actually believe if you refuse to answer a question they quit the game? Unless you are PHYSICALLY blocking store entry and PHYSICALLY preventing people playing, you're not doing anything better than the guy who flipped me off in traffic.
>>95884293What do you think these proves? Did you even read them? The only two I opened literally explicitly state these 2 cards aren't a combo lol
>>95884257>Prove me wrong.Mind reading aloud what it says on the type line there, champ?
>>95884317>The only two I opened literally explicitly state these 2 cards aren't a combo lolread nigga
>>95884316Nope and you'll understand when you're older sport
>>95884316Actually the more you basedboy tourists seethe over it, the more liable you are to quit the game.
>>95884328Do you have any data for this outside of cope?
>>95884323>read niggaYou need to be 18 to post here buddy. But as said the 2 links I opened explicitly state its not a combo and the one you are posting is referring to draft magic and calls it a "basic combo". This is EDH, not draft. And they are being loose with their terminology because there is no such thing as a "basic combo" in magic. Which you would know if you weren't a tourist.
>>95884129Yeah this is for a Zenos deck
>>95884124I do have a bunch of discard tech from an old Tergrid deck...
Hear me out guys.
Narset, Enlightened Exile prowess auto-equipment tribal with job select, living weapon, for mirrodin, cori and the cloak equip from detective hat set.
banger or banger?
>gatekeeping works
You have been "gatekeeping" for five years and every UB becomes the newest "best selling set" every time and brings in thousands of new players. You're doing a bad job of gatekeeping.
>>95884349the new players don't stay if in-universe set sales are any indication
>>95884349Gatekeeping is good and works when its unified not when the company and bad actors are working against you. You tourists need to think harder
>>95884356This as well the proof is in the pudding they buy their funky pops and leave
>>95884338>"That's where today's combo comes in">"What this combo does produce"I don't think you actually can read. And I'm not even the anon(s) who were arguing with you about FF/UB.
>>95884368Gatekeeping cannot work since if it did, the product would end up defunct due to lack of profit and players. A for-profit item must grow. If you are preventing that, it will stagnate. It is also not company policy, so any attempt you make will end up thwarted by the multi-billion dollar company that has a legal requirement to block you and ensure profit for investors. The company can do anything to prevent your gatekeeping and open up new "holes" in your gate or even remove your gate entirely. You are an ant fighting a God.
Previous gatekeepers got permabanned from all events and left magic.
>>95884376I dont think you actually read your links anon :)
>basic form of THE COMBO>basicYou were just rapidfiring links cause you're a retarded tourist lol. And again EDH is not draft.
>crying about UB
>crying about proxies
>crying about definitions
This thread sucks
>>95884323Are there any commander decks that play like cat oven? I like that "death by a thousand cuts while your every attempt at interacting with it fizzles" play pattern.
>>95884384>line MUST go up
>>95884384Thats not true at all there are plenty of insular hobbies. Not responding to the rest as you immediately and demonstrably wrong.
>>95884392I didn't post those links, you dingus. Have you not realized that more than one person in the thread knows you're wrong?
>>95884423it cracks me up when stuff like this happen. Im sorry you are getting blowback for my post of links anon.
>>95884393https://www.reddit.com/r/EDH/
>>95884441That is the same as here though
>>95884392Why do you keep bringing up draft talking about a tier deck in a constructed format?
>>95884444Nope. You can drown in estrogen-induced mandatory positivity and consumer celebration right there, tourist friend.
>>95884187is there any other way to win using him other than chandra ignition?
>>95884458Why would I take advice from someone who clearly does not know what they are talking about?
This as an anje proxy y/n?
>>95884465Turning him sideways with any kind of evasion?
>>95884295(You)
Go outside pig
>>95884475Japanese furry art looks bad. So N
>>95884487>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST STAY INSIDE ALL DAY!
>>95884423Okay then why are you defending them and trying to act as though you know the contents within? Your fault for acting retarded and being wrong
>>95884081Tree of Perdition. Setting an opponent's life total to 13 is a hell of a switch if they were anywhere near full, gives you a better shot at taking down a deck that has a bunch of lifegain in it by nuking their last life gains, and puts them in a strike zone where a single turn's worth of attacks can reasonably kill them with a decent board state. The only downside is that it doesn't have haste, so odds are good that you have this loaded gun on the table and everyone knows it.
>>95884488Well ok mr american furry what should I use instead
>>95884522Something with better proportions for one. She looks obese yet with a miniature head
>>95884513I know it might be difficult for you but some people actually are capable of reading
>>95884513because they arent a disingenuous fuck like you anon.
>>95884499It's not healthy to stay inside all day
>>95884477that justs kills one nigger, i need to him to kill all the niggers
>>95884556I have literally been sitting in my room all day, at my computer, in the dark. I woke up at 8am it is now 1pm. I don't give a fuck. I work hard. If I want to do nothing all day, so be it.
>>95884545If that were the case you wouldn't have sperged put when I said the link cause it a basic form of the combo. But here we are and I had to prove that I was right despite the fact anyone who did read would know that
>>95884553But what i said was objectively correct and he literally tried lying about the contents of the post and accusing me of not reading it when, again, I was pulling my word choice directly from the article in question.
>>95884513>though you know the contents withinBecause I read them and posted the screenshot where cat oven was referred to a combo multiple times?
Flip Vincent and the Red Gogo are really cool concepts and I look forward to their UW versions if I don't man up and make them myself by then.
Fuck UBslopniggers
>>95884654>I look forward to never using themk
Hey has anyone seen where I put my inkshield?
>>95884320this into scapeshift is funny
>>95884654>generic black beater with removal>generic red deckYeah very cool I love being encouraged to play removal in black and i love being encouraged to copy good attack triggers in red these are both breaking new ground for their colors
>>95884638You seem like you need some vitamin D bro
>>95884792I'm finna go lift weights in my basement
>>95884802i have a 3-color deck that I have helmed by Kefka, but the gameplan revolves around all the black mage tokens and Black waltz
>>95881513 (OP)Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite my beloved
Everyone underestimates her because she's 7 mana and mono white. Gives me a chance to shit out a bunch of tokens and pump them up
>>95884814Do you even lift?
>>95884802I torn between he and Kuja
>>95884824How else to trollmaxxing?
TQ: Light Paws
The amount of people that cry about this furry is insane. It's one color. It's one creature that dies to any forced sack.
But killing someone within 5 turns easily makes people maaaaaaaaaad.
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After many failed attempts at building Celestine, now I'm trying to build Selesnya Celestine.
How do you ensure you gain 7 life most turns? Besides lifelink beats.
>>95884851My time has come
>>95881605Typical proxyfag literally taking someone else's work and reusing it for something better lmao. Based.
>>95884850>But killing someone within 5 turns easily makes people maaaaaaaaaad.The issue is it took you 30 minutes of deck searching to do it. So it was like a very boring game of UR solitaire except the solitaire is you looking through your deck for half an hour
>>95881630In my case I proxy cards because the ideal aesthetics I want out of my deck do not exist in real life even if I were to pay money for it. Donald Trump, the White House, and Hiroshima/Nagasaki aren't getting secret lairs anytime soon. Fallout did get one eventually though, good for them. Too bad they didn't even touch the ideal Power Armor card.
>>95884898>Complains people take too long searching for cards in LP>Complains people always use the same playlines so its boring, which means they aren't taking long searching their librariesPlease make up your mind, you salty bitch.
>>95884920Imagine being this much of a bootlicker.
>>95884081Mono-b voltron.
>>95884850I wait for the trigger to resolve then use removal on her to make the player lose 2 spells
>>95882415I'm proxying a Mr. House deck right now, the whole entire thing with custom backs and everything. I'm printing duals to throw in there and damn it my group is gonna have to deal with it, it's how a man like House would play the game. No Jeweled Lotus though, I'm not a monster.
>>95883413I don't know anyone that cares about or enforces brackets. I have zero clue what bracket any of my decks fall under and I have 8 of them.
>>95884081>>95884124Seconding the discard. Turn 2 hymn or a mid-game mind twist is usually enough to put someone out of running. The winner of most edh games is whoever interacts/is interacted with the least, so if you deck is packed with interaction you basically just get to decide who doesn't win.
Having a bunch of these types of cards also acts as a nuclear deterrent. Once they know they'll get mind-twisted or have all their shit killed in retaliation other players will leave you alone, but if they save you for last and make the game a 1v1, suddenly your deck full of bad single targeted hate crushes the average edh deck.
>>95884934I've seen people take a bit to search a deck despite knowing what they are looking for. Could be the last card. Could be that they looked through so fast that they missed it and have to do it again.
>"Now where is that ALL THAT GLITTERS?">2 minutes later and 3rd look through deck>"It's here somewhere..."
>>95884898>30 minutes of deck searchya this is the actual issue! honestly i donโt give a shit how fast your stupid combos are but fuck these retards taking 15 minute turns at least know how to fucking pilot your deck
In the last 2 weeks I've built:
Pearl-Ear, around murmuration, hallowed haunting and repeatable enchantments.
Odric (keyword soup), cracked a Sire of Seven Deaths a while back and its easy enough to put together
Nadaar astral slide
Made a "white core" which is like 29 interaction, draw and ramp cards to finish them all.
Mono Red kellan, hellbent voltron shenanigans
Hope Estheim, combo deck goldfishing it presents wins pretty early
Lyse Hext (I want to have sext with her)
Might build something else today but my collection is running pretty thin and I dont wanna order cards
Anyone ever used mtg-proxies-cards.com? The prices look good, but the interface of this website actives my fight or flight response.
>increase the price on the secret lair drop by $10
>only place you announce it is one line of text on the article everyone already read
>dont print the promised Portuguese translations
This is a real fuckup lmao
>>95884320>>95884709this into genesis wave lategame is a wincon
>>95885074Pretty sure they're legit but I'd use a fake card when buying from chinks.
>>95884850>within 5 turnshow does that work?
my friend very often plays krenko and can potentially win very fast, a similar mono-colour deck could be fun to challenge him
>>95882120>gogo copy strip minekek based mono blue boom bust enjoyer
>>95885165have you considered not having friends? i highly recommend it.
>>95884802Don't forget this one if you're playing him.
>>95885204Damn that is some depressing flavor text
>>95885204>Very nice, very nice. Make sure you slap some streamer headphones in there and it's perfect.
>>95885224Looks more like the type of headphones you'd use at a studio desu
>>95885224>Ok gamers today we're gonna get stabbed, bleed out, and die!
>>95885240Oh boy a dead by daylight stream?!?
>>95885236This is such a good card great little reanimation target and it can put itself in the yard wowee
>>95885240>Chat I can hear my dead grandma....are we cooked?
>>95885222>>95885236i don't mean ways to deal with krenko decks in particular, i meant how light paws works and how it would win within 5 turns.
the fun part about playing against the same deck often is replacing cards to counter that in particular (and sometimes realising it counters a lot of things too - for instance he also plays old zurgo, so I included many "-x/-x until end of turn" removal and exiles too
>>95885204Why is she surrounded by ink? Can we not show blood anymore?
>>95885275I can't remember the last time I saw blood on a non vampire card so I'm going to say yes.
>>95885275Not if it's a female victim. Ever since the Triumph of Ferocity backlash almost all kill spells or art depicting violence have male victims.
>>95885293Do you have any evidence of this or did you just want to shoe horn in your politics?
>>95885293Stab wounds was in the same standard as this and was released after this card and features a woman covering up a stab wound while in pain
>>95885301Feel free to provide counter evidence
>>95883712It's not like there was anything else of substance in your post beyond anime girl bad.
>>95885204>>95885224Don't forget the cankles and tranny hairline.
>>95885293This was made after triumph of ferocity
>>95885269light paws is just voltron. your put enough auras and protections on it to otk people and start swinging.
>>95884105Not all combos are infinite combos that's why the term infinite combo exists at all you goober.
>>95884105>If it doesn't go infinite it's not a combo>If it doesn't win it's not a comboAh, summer
>>95885204this card is hilarious. also whatโs the art depicting lore wise? was this a botched m2f operation?
>>95885307Changes in art direction take time. But feel free to find counter-examples to my claim. It is extremely hard to find art where a clearly female humanoid is getting killed/wounded/restrained. Examples of male characters being killed/wounded/restrained in modern MTG art are plentiful.
>>95885360I think it is depicting a woman dying on the floor. I am unsure how you'd be confused outside of retardation.
>>95885361There was an entire set about a female getting murdered, not exactly difficult to remember that.
>>95884316>Gatekeeping is when you physically prevent someone from doing something.No. No I'm not reading whatever the hell it was you were going to sperg out. No you are wrong, physicality has nothing to do with phrases and metaphors and you very well know that you autistic retard if you've been on this planet for over 18 years.
>>95885360> see thing> how can I make this about trannies?Why are you like this?
>>95885380Mental illness.. But the good kind.
You wanna talk about shills? You wanna talk about shills?! OK! I've stumbled onto a major /tg/ conspiracy, Mac--how 'bout that for shills?
This thread is being shilled like a stuck pig, Mac, and I've got a paper trail to prove it. Check this out. Take a look at this.
That right there are the proxies. Now let's talk about the proxies. Can we talk about the proxies, please, Mac? I've been dying to talk about the proxies with you all day, OK? "Coomette," this name keeps coming up over and over again. Every week Coomette's mail is getting delivered on Saturday. Coomette! Coomette! I look in the thread, and this whole thread is UB posts! So I say to myself, "I gotta find this guy! I gotta go up to his etsy and put a message in the guy's goddamn inbox! Otherwise, he's never going to get it and he's going to keep shitposting down here." So I go up to Gavin Verhey's house and what do I find out, Mac? What do I find out?! There is no Gavin. The man does not exist, okay? So I decided, "Oh shit, buddy, I gotta dig a little deeper." There's no Gavin? You gotta be kidding me! I got boxes full of proxies! All right. So I start marchin' my way down to /edhg/ in /tg/ and I post in the thread and I say, "BASIC LANDS, BASIC LANDS SHOULD BE FREE." And when I open the door what do I find? There's not a single LEGITIMATE post on the entire thread. There...are...no...real posters on /edhg/. Mac, half the posts in this thread have been made up. This thread is a goddamn ghost town.
>>95884802>literally named Three >deals two damage>two power and toughnessWHY
>>95885373For each female victim I could probably find 5 male ones.
>>95884890Doing what? What's realer than being a planerman?
>>95884946What boots? Huh? I'm talking about an America themed deck there.
>>95885380>unrelated reaction image from tranny gameYou're why.
>In a pod with Neera, Massacre Girl the wither one, Clavileno, and me with my Terra mardu precon straight out of the box
>Already raised an eyebrow at Neera, since that deck is way too powerful for these decks unless the other 2 players somehow get smart enough to 3v1 it
>Terra gets removed immediately by the Neera player
>They cast Blatant Thievery
>Draw pic related
>Neera casts some spell that allows him to copy and cast Blatant Thievery thrice, which would've undoubtedly ended the game due to sheer value discrepancy
>Cast Espers to Magicite
>Make an artifact out of the Bloodthirsty Conqueror from Massacre Girl's graveyard while exiling the Blatant Thievery
>Massacre Girl assembles Crypt Ghast + Cabal Coffers but can't combo off since I'll just live and gain a ton of life
>Later, Neera cheats in Astral Dragon and copies my Bloodthirsty Conqueror rock twice
>Massacre player throws up his hands in the air
>Somehow manages to assemble their infinite combo they "swear is only there because games gotta end sometime", yet every game they've played their deck, it ended up being drawing their whole deck and doing the infinite
>Due to Bloodthirsty Conqueror rocks, the infinite fumbles and ends up doing nothing
>Think the Neera player ended up winning, but I don't remember since I didn't care about them
Shit was funny as hell. And I kept being able to just say "buddy YOU are the one that put Bloodthirsty Conqueror in the deck. If you didn't want the card in the game, you shouldn't've put it in the deck."
>>95885074Ten dollars for nonfoil fakes? The fuck? Shop from Underground Sea instead, Jesus what a ripoff.
https://www.usmtgproxy.com
>>95885380It's a joke my man. Most people like jokes.
>>95885448It's a pretty shit joke.
>>95885453You probably think that because you are it.
>>95885459>It was a joke guys>also if you dislike my joke then TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIES REEEEI'm thinking it wasn't a joke.
>>95885462See, that exact response is exactly why it's funny. You don't even need to actually point out any actual trannies, just one guy making a joke causes them to sperg out and reveal themselves. Like a Protestant in a room where someone says they pray to Mary, they just cannot help themselves because of their nature.
>>95885418fuck mass graveyard exile cards
>>95885471Taking a shit in the middle of my living room isn't any better just because you claim you are doing it "ironically", anon.
>>95885487Sometimes I wish they'd print a card that buffs itself based on how many cards you have in exile. A nice and beefy Gren Maju would be perfect revenge for blowing up all my plans.
>>95884685I found it after 2 hours of searching.
>>95885500You're really not helping the idea of you not being a joke by relating to all of us your scat fetish, Anon.
>>95885507I think your ink shield had a hole in it.
>>95885513Actually had me chuckling, thanks anon.
>>95885360I looked it up because someone commented on the flavour text, and there is no relation to anything. Vicky is only mentioned in this card.
>>95885487Lmao get fucked gigger
>>95885418your pic rel card is one of the best in the precon and people are sleeping on it. I fucking LOVE instant speed mass grave exile
>>95885418idk, graveyard hate is nice, but that's a big sor-
THAT'S AN INSTANT?!
>>95885557>4 mana for a 0 mana ability
>>95885418This guy looks like he has a wicked sense of humor
>>95885398Was the exact same before triumph dipshit. There are more males depicted on cards in general.
>>95885418Not only is it instant GY hate but the thing you steal can often lead to hilarity, since it stops being a creature (lol devoted druid) and becomes harder to interact with
>>95882091infinite millenium calendar untaps
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>>95885418iirc correctly and someones commander is in the grave for any reason as this spell is cast, it will be exiled forever as you dont pass priority while the spell is resolving and putting your cmd it in the zone is a SBA thats only happens as you pass priority. This is also is how came back wrong works fyi
>>95885689This is absolutely not true
>>95885689You could steal one, the others can still be put back in the command zone after the spell resolves, if all 3 were somehow in there.
>>95885700i meant in case a single one was there and you decided to pick it as the target
>>95885713>exile the cards>choose one of the exiled cards>create a token>spell fully resolves>all players can move their commanders to the cz
>>95885763based time traveler from 2006
>>95885689Commanders moving to the Command zone is a state based action and doesn't require priority. The only way to fuck a Commander is to phase it, as that doesn't change zones.
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>>95885689No, because you create a token instead of the original. This would let you steal a commander because you can cast the card from exile as part of the effect before state-based actions are checked.
>>958856484 mana to steal the best creature in a graveyard at instant speed, with the bonus of graveyard hate.
>>95884395sephiroth until naturalize II gets printed
>>95885872full graveyard exile should be valued at 2 mana
So that card should cost 6.
>>95885908>full graveyard exile should be valued at 2 manaNah, get bogged
>>95885915I get it is fun anon but it is poorly balanced and always will be.
>>95885948>bojuka bog is zoomer lingo
>>95885948>larper doesn't know what bog is
>>95885948What about that is zoomy, bogdanon?
>okay, so I have one mana looking
>Flicks cards
>Looks at board
>One mana floating...
>Flicks cards, looks at hand
>Counts lands
>One mana floating...
>Flicks cards some more
>Looks at board
>Yeah... One mana floating..
>Flick
>Flick
>Flick
>Pass
>>95885948You motherfucking moron
>Bogs died years ago
wtf I had no idea
>>95886004>actually believing they're dead
>pulled an oilslick Mondrak out of a pack I got as a gift ages ago
>still have never run it because I literally never play tokenslop
Feels bad man
>>95885818I love that silly dragon. Way overcosted for what it does. But boy is it funny to steal the Eldrazi player's big titan.
In pic related, I even used it's own ability to counter the Swords to Plowshares the owner cast on it. My sides were in orbit
>>95886067I really gotta be in the mood for it. As much as I love my Shroofus deck it really just quickly devolves into "I swing with 8 buffed saprolings okay now I make 50 more"
>>95886067Then sell it retard.
>>95886091It was a gift from someone important to me. I like having the card because it reminds me of that person, even if I'm not using it.
>>95886101Then don't complain you fucking retard. Complaining just to complain.
>>95886101https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVAdwIGWOcg
>slop
How to spot a low IQ person and player in under 2 seconds.
>>95886139Weird to be this mad over people's accurate assessment of UB
>>95886153>Immediately defendsiveLow IQ confirmed.
>>95886115Calm down mr. legion
Sometimes bracket 2 is kind of fucked up. Obviously "gocha" cards are going to be really powerful in bracket two, since fogging a big combat or casting something like Galadriel's Dismissal or Inkshield can just win you the game. So now my pod has devolved into everyone holding their big blowout cards so whenever someone tries to win the game via craterhoofing or whatever, they just lose and everyone knows that so they keep waiting to be the second one to try to win the game instead, poking eachother with pingers and evasive creatures.
>>95886156>fat fingers can't proofread postcaptchangmi, make sure to check with your physician for diabetes
>>95886139Yes, "slop" has been over used to the point that the term itself, is slop. Pointing it out at this stage is only a step above. Let the retards fling their shit, stay clean.
>>95886167>Haha fat>Doubling down on being defensiveWe already confirmed you are low IQ, you don't need to keep reaffirming it.
Recently decided to stop using proxies as per pod rules. This is what Iโm left with
>>95886187I'm happy you're taking your time, shows how cool and calmcumbery you are.
>>95886221>Tripling downSheesh.
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>>95882731I built mine with landfall and big creatures in mind while having some +1/+1 card
>secret spiceeither have this in your opening hand or mulligan
>>95886258heyyy, that looks like something I should place in my Cloud upgraded precon
>>95882731>needing help to build one of the biggest "builds itself" commanders ever madeTimmies, timmies never change.
>>95886078Mono Green retardness in a nutshell
>why are mono green commanders so boring?
I feel bad for fans of Vivi as a character. He gets a card but it is so fucking overpowered that everyone will hate you and target you for using him.
Especially feel bad for new-FF fags who come in and play Vivi and do not realize they are going to be the table arch-enemy for it. And they likely are not used to getting focused.
I wonder if it is better or worse than your favorite character getting a trash card. Probably better.
>>95886273Because you hate drawing, lands, big creatures, counters, and tokens
>>95886171Slop is how I would describe non UB magic this past year
slop=something I dislike
Shrimple as.
>>95886294I would rather my favorite characters for busted cards
>>95886311The word slop has become slop
>>95886241Yeah you'll probably reply to me for the fourth time, I'm happy I can help you find a place here, something to do.
UB sets are better designed than so called "real magic"
>>95886326This has already been stated.
At least we know at this point anyone using the term has an opinion that can be instantly discarded.
Move on already.
>>95886342Well I'm stating it again faggot
>>9588418710,000 life is pretty cool, right?
>>95884243Wait until I tell you about Savage Ventmaw and Aggravated Assault
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>>95884465Deadpool as your commander and Kediss
>>95886335Often. Because as much as retards like to call it funko and fortnite, UB actually tries to express the IP through the cards. Doctor Who had some massive flavor wins for instance
>>95884187The problem with the card is two-fold:
1. It never needed to exist.
2. It will be a constant issue at casual tables.
No one is saying is the next Thoracle, theyโre saying itโs absurdly easy to cheat out and deals with numbers the game is not designed around. This is a problem for casual tables.
It being โle flavor win!!!!!โ is soft-headed dribble from WotC shills and nostalgia boomers. The number 10,000 does not belong on standard-legal Magic cards.
>>95886335If you wanted me to post it again, you could have just asked.
>>95884851I'm trying to build this too and I'm kinda at a loss
>>95886477The difference is that I like this
>>95886425Wait until I tell you about Putrefax and Chandra's Ignition
>>95886425Wait till I tell you about furnace of rath and hidetsugu
>>95886425Wait until I tell you about a really cool cactus
Wait until I tell you about my waifu
Wait until I tell you about your vehicle's extended warranty is about to expire
>>95886335That isn't a good thing.
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>>95886414Don't waste everyone's time. Just end the game
>>95886610jokes on you my vehicles a damn rock
I still need to build a white/black deck, and straight up *none* of them are appealing/do anything different than my other decks. Why do like.. 90% of them do the exact same thing?
still need to build a red/blue deck, and straight up *none* of them are appealing/do anything different than my other decks. Why do like.. 90% of them do the exact same thing?
still need to build a green/white/black deck, and straight up *none* of them are appealing/do anything different than my other decks. Why do like.. 90% of them do the exact same thing?
need to build a green/blue deck, and straight up *none* of them are appealing/do anything different than my other decks. Why do like.. 90% of them do the exact same thing?
>>95886650What are your other decks?
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>>95886676The ones tabbed over are completed/build. The ones spaced over have completed lists
still need to build a green deck, and straight up *none* of them are appealing/do anything different than other green decks. Why do like.. 100% of them do the exact same thing?
still need to build a white/blue deck, and straight up *none* of them are appealing/do anything different than my other decks. Why do like.. 90% of them do the exact same thing?
>>95886690Aggro combat tricks
>>95886688are you the "I have a narci deck and it takes twenty minutes each turn" guy or the one who was asking about making one and being told that by the other guy?
>>95886704There's a few of us, but yes she does take a while. Currently waiting for summon cards to drop in price to reconfig her. Somewhere around 15 of the sagas are coming out
>>95886709Thought about him, but my pod is *very* boardwipe heavy, and since there's only like 2 cards that give your creatures haste in WB, I just know I'm not gonna have a chance to pull it off
How do you resolve and use myrkul before the game is even over?
>>958856484 mana for THREE 0 mana abilities!
>>95886731Ask the other player to get something from another room and swiftly reorganize the table while he's gone.
>>95886729you're in fucking white, there's a dozen board wipe protection spells
>>95886729The reanimate ability isn't limited to sorcery speed, and white is THE color of mass phase out. Plus you can attack their hands by running symmetrical discard that also fills your graveyard.
>>95886747Yeah and all my friends decks run like 10 each cuz they're all fuckers that're scared of someone having more than 3-4 creatures
>>95886752punish them for their hubris
>>95886688Maybe I'm blind I dont see any reanimator here? I like my shilgengar deck a lot its fun. Eriette is a unique take on auras and I don't see something that would be comparable to that in your list. Maybe I'm blind I'm taking a very strenuous shit right now
>>95886762It's not listed but Piru has a ton of it. Shilgengar looks interesting don't get me wrong, I just know I'll never be able to pull it off, especially due to the finality counters. I wanted to build Eriette but someone else already has her and we have a gentlemen's agreement to not build other people's commanders
>>95886752>playing skrelv, shroofus, imodane, Gabriel fucking angelfire, silimgar, gristFuck I got bored. Most of these are slow and heavily rely on a board state the fuck you talking about board wipes
>>95886779eriette but it's actually killian?
aristocrats?
ketramose exile tribal?
oops every teysa on the battlefield at once?
>>95886780>skrelvMy pod doesn't like infect but I wanted a deck with it. It's built around cheap double strikers. The rule is I gotta get everyone to 9 counters and then proliferate the entire table at once to win. I don't flood the board with a ton of mites/infect creatures/whatever
>shroofusIt's very easy to build back when I can make 10-20+ tokens every turn
>imodane, Gabriel fucking angelfireDon't rely on huge boards. 1-2 damage doublers with Imodane and I'm nuking the table. Gabriel has indestructible/hexproof from all the enchantments so he and all his auras stick around (no one plays Farewell)
>SilumgarIt's a control deck. The tons of card draw + like 25 fucking counterspells is the only reason the deck works. Trust me people are firing off boardwipes every turn to try and wipe my stuff
>gristIt's a bracket 1 meme deck, people don't really care about this one desu
>>95886814>Skrelv Based honestly
>>95886819People are a lot more willing to play it when I tell them that besides Skrelv, the deck has zero toxic/infect creatures
>>95886827You would think "mono white infect" wouldn't exactly be a big threat
>>95886834Haha it's not. I built it cuz I found it funny as hell. I was gonna do infect with Xavier Sal and only rely on those spells that say something like "everyone gets a poison counter" and cheese it with mass proliferate, but then Mothman came out and I found rad counters to be too damn interesting, so Mothman took that color slot
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>Whenever one or more creatures deal combat damage to you, each opponent sacrifices a creature of their choice that dealt combat damage to you this turn.
What the fuck does this even mean? Each opponent? Only one opponent can attack at a time..? Why doesn't this just say "whenever one or more creatures deal combat damage to you, it's controller sacrifices one of them"?
>>95886971because that would be a nerf
>>95886995They say the exact same thing, though? "Each opponent" doesn't even make sense
>>95886197>101 cards Sasuga proxyanon
my previous store closed down a while ago so i havent had a chance to play, but now that a new store opened i wanted to start playing again and i convinced my friends to give the game a try finally with the new FF shit
and how is zenos, is he just a meme or is there actually a cool build for him as the commander
>>958867000 reason to play this over feather, blue has shit tricks.
>>95887061Thats not true and they dont need to be combat tricks it could also be removal anon!
>>95887040Of course he's a meme.
>>95887040I think he's too telegraphed as the commander, but I'm planning on putting him in the 99 of a couple of decks that are good at killing one player and run enough removal to reliably flip him at instant speed.
>>95887221>too telegraphedthat's the point innit
zenos wouldn't play some gay ass reanimation sac combo to trigger the transform and then an infinite combo to trigger the shinryu win
he'd summon primal odin or some stupid demon and smack you in the face
>>95886971There is a format called two headed giant, basically two vs two Magic. Both allied players take their turn at the same time, passing through main, phases, combat steps, when both are ready. The wording you cite ensure that it triggers in regular games, in multiplayer games, and also in two-headed giant games, where two opponents are attacking you simultaneously.
>>95886711>waiting for the summons to drop in priceLast I checked most of them were under a dollar, with the exceptions being Bahamut and Knights of the Round. Double checked- Titan and Odin are the only ones in Abzan colors besides the previously mentioned two that are over $1.
>>95887285Yeah I saw as well. I typically wait like 1-2 weeks after release for everything to settle anyway
>>95887299The waiting game is the right move for everything in this set. It's being opened en masse and I have no doubt lots of cards will tank thanks to the sheer number of them on the market in the coming weeks.
>>95886752God forbid people run answers
Skyswimmer Koi as a third redundancy on Transplant Theorist/Rook Turret, yay or nay?
making alt arts for staples is really fucking boring.
>>95887356>I didn't post the image
Forgot I bought this at comic-con a month ago need to figure out an america deck
>>95887420I'm honestly not sure, I've got the decklist right here
https://archidekt.com/decks/13425334/crystal_collection
I'm also debating if I should open a slot up for Noxious Gearhulk (and eventually get a cool Kaladesh one)
I wish there were spells that had 'prime' or 'pure' keywords - spells that are fuckhuge, can't be copied, alternative costs can't be paid, and mana from outside it's color identity and from non-lands can't be used.
>>95887299Fair then I guess. Personally hoping the price of the Amano art Terra, travelling chocobo, and mono white Cloud drop further.
>>95887425>every piece of fast mana he can find>fucking chains>maindeck swallowed by leviathanwhy are you like this
>>95887468>every piece of fast mana he can findThis is meant to generally be my stronger deck. I own the cards, so they might as well get some use. I'm actually considering putting in Grinding Station since Nick Valentine/Eloise and Stridehangar mean it ends up just milling everyone out. I cut Torment of Hailfire for Walking Ballista as an artifact wincon with infinite or just large quantities of mana.
>Fucking chainsIt's a pretty funny card and I have a NM one, it feels like it belongs as a fun piece
>Swallowed by LeviathanIt's a counter with Surveil on it, I'd use Don't Make a Sound if the surveil wasn't only if they *do* pay for it.
>>95887333>lots of cards will tankkek this guy doesnโt one piece. enjoy inevitably proxing your commons.
>>95887425>artifact deck>manipulates top deck>no Scroll Rack
>our resident Chris Chan surprising anyone
A week early for summer, but the weather's great.
>>95887499Dude I have one of those, I'm gonna put it in the maybeboard. I didn't even think of that!
>>95887468>good deck badcare to explain?
>>95887514>no for real i own this random expensive old card no one uses i TOTALLY have itfuck you prove it, fag
>>95887528Isnt it like 20 bucks?
>>95887528Swordbro is a known paypig
>>95887425I have a phyrexian dreadnought, worth using in this list? I have a similar deck
>>95887563absolutely. and death's shadow.
>>95887563>Artifact creature>big power>easy to get in the graveyardAbsolutely! Wish I had one of those, I'd put it in mine.
>>95887567ah FUCK that reminds me, I need to do a local standard championship? I want that diabolos death's shadow.
>>95887536Damn you didn't have to kill him
>>95887528>no one uses scrollrackwhat?
>Me and the scrubs running our meme/commander specific decks
>Deadpool "It's not a Gc hahaha" deck guy pods up
>Other guys don't enough removal to cost out the pool.
>Go Urza artifact on pool player and watch as he get's assmad I don't care about stealing effects
Just because your card isn't list as a game changer doesn't mean it's just not a retarded difficult card. It bypasses all protection and even legend rule doesn't stop it's ability so the DP player can make tokens and still do it's shit. It ruins any unbalanced pod grouping and the deadmeme player always gets asshurt when I go to a CEDH deck.
>bro that's a GAME CHANGER
so is your retarded ass commander.
>>95887702DP player is in the right
>>95887523im saying swallowed by leviathan is a barely playable card in limited, it looks comical in here next to his other shit.
>>95887715>counter target spell unless they pay way too much mana>also surveil 2seems fine in a surveil deck
>>95887724a three mana counterspell needs to wash my car and suck my cock to be playable over regular old counterspell. that one isn't sucking my cock, three steps ahead is.
Are you guys bringing anything to magic con to get signed? I'm thinking a final fantasy playmat to get signed by the community folks, and a couple artist specific cards and playmats for their respective artist signatures. Maybe a stack of sol rings to get signed by people too?
>>95887737i-it has to what??
>>958877373 mana to counter a spell is the current going rate, anon. Ever since Cancel replaced Counterspell. Adding in Surveil 2 is nice.
>>95887753https://youtu.be/L_ffgmGifvk?si=6-XFFF1BTJFJJ-8A
Reminder swordbro does not allow proxies in his games while having every card bought for him
How do I draw cards in colorless
If my opponent casts a Deadeye and I cast Galadriel's Dismissal on him with the soulbound trigger on the stack, are they still soulbound when they phase back in?
>>95887775ci=0 o:"draw a card" f:c
glhf
>>95887715It's pretty good in limited actually. Terrible in edh though yes.
>>95887775Don't be a broke bitch and just buy the one ring
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>>95887715Swallowed by leviathan is solid in limited. Surveil 2 is almost drawing a card, especially in a set with so much flashback.
Swordbro loves throwing draft chaff into his poorly built staple piles though.
>>95887775itโs kinda hard the symbol is like a little diamond or something
>>95887763Degenerate!
>>95887781N-no lewds here!
>>95887775There's lots of draw in colorless if you look hard enough for it~!
>Endless Atlas>Book of Rass>The One Ring>Palantir of OrthancAnd of course there's stuff like Carnage Altar and Idol of Oblivion if you're doing tokens
>>95887787this is more helpful than my memory though
>>95887775divining top mystic forge
I'm dismantling my Shorikai deck because despite being a huge mechachad I dislike Vehicles and Shorikai is more a combo engine than a big giant robot beatstick. I still want a white/blue deck around though and this card's always interested me ever since Baldurs Gate dropped. Besides going full aggro with the knight tokens and shit like Approach of the Second Sun what would be a fun way to win the game? Was originally thinking something like Sword of War and Peace to deal damage based on the number of cards in hands but that seems more Black/Red territory than White/Blue from what I'm seeing.
>>95887803>Swordbro loves throwing draft chaff into his poorly built staple piles though.This is extremely true. I love thematic, even if bad, cards.
>>95887890cringe. Play to win or go home.
>>95887895Using meh cards to put in more work than they normally would is one of my favorite things. It's actually one of the things that drew me to Golbez, amplifying even bad artifacts to give me Surveil, and cards like Broodstar can be turned into a wincon if I properly get it into my graveyard.
>>95887859>azorious commander>leave up 2 blue mana >โim gonna put some dirt in your eyeโ>cyconic rift into mystic sanctuary https://youtu.be/AITqA6OC9aA?si=DbR2mZ2qV7t7xHqu
>>95887221i already ordered a bunch of stuff for him since i wanted to build him no matter what since zenos is my favorite character, but ive seen a few different build, some go full voltron, some combo, some infect, the only other cheese thing ive seen is odin
i know its super telegraphed but holy fuck im glad he got that effect, true fucking kino
>>95887932Yeah I built a golbez too with some artifacts I had laying around. most expensive card in it is darksteel forge.
>>95888002I considered using my Darksteel Forge, but I never manage to fit it into anything.
>>95888017I run it alot because I ended up with 8 copies from buying packs back in the day. It was the only rare I kept getting
why not run winter cursed rider, the last ride, demonic junker?
metalworker, haunt the network, disinformation campaign, notion rain?
>>95888060>Run cards from aethershitI'm not a fag
>>95887061Blue has quite literally the best combat trick in the game.
I'm still surprised FF prices are still climbing, and considerably so. I was going to wait a couple of months to buy anything (and probably still will), but it has me a bit worried
>>95888176>didn't preorderlmao
>>95888206I was never going to preorder it for those prices. It either goes down, or i just proxy the cards i want.
>>95888214As god intended.
>>95888176>I was going to wait a couple of months to buy anything (and probably still will), but it has me a bit worriedYes anon, they call that Fear of Missing Out, or FOMO. It's a marketing tactic.
Just like how they've been saying that it's the best selling set of all time, but WPN stores are saying they didn't get allocated as much product as they usually get. Weird isn't it? Sold so well but not in WPN stores? Where did it go?
The answer is the didn't print it. And they're not going to print it again for a couple months, by which time rabid UBpiggies like yourself will pay anything for it.
If it really was the best selling set of all time, then by end of year there will be hundreds of copies of any card you could want on market sitres.
>>95888060if this is for golbez, vehicles aren't creatures in the gy and so they can't be pulled out with his trigger.
>>95887959Since I'm feeling nice, have an easy draw 3, UBpiggy
>>95888229nta but I don't plan on buying any singles until after the Space Wars set comes out. Hopefully the prices on some of the cards will have dropped by then, but most of what I want is pretty cheap already.
Feels good being able to take my time and tweak my decks online to make sure they're fully optimized before I place the order.
>>95883556Got to say, she snowballs fast. Just got her for my Odric and wow does she do a lot.
>>95883772This guy still needs more assassins.
>>95888398>nta but I don't plan on buying any singles until after the Space Wars set comes out. Hopefully the prices on some of the cards will have dropped by then,They won't because WotC is deliberately delaying printing. I don't know the specifics but some anon talked about WotC previously having to share printer time with Pokemon but now Pokemon has its own printer so there's no excuse for why they can't print more for a couple months.
The only reason is that they know the secondary market is actually how their bread gets buttered. If people didn't think cards were worth hundreds of dollars, people would spend less cracking packs to chase them.
>>95888427He kinda bangs but yeah his card pool is way too small to actually be effective.
what's the most basic +1 counter commander? I want super growth and include stuff like the trample hydra
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>>95888532I was looking for you but then I had a powercut
I just searched
>id:gw>o:whenever>o:โ+1/+1 counterโ>is:commanderOn scryfall.
Whenever is the design slop word youre looking for because itโs probably not a once per turn and is probably possible to abuse
In retrospect I probably should have allowed simic results because I bet thereโs a landfall +1+1 commander out there
>>95887973>PicOF OUR FALLEN BROTHERS
TIME TESTS STEEL
OATHS FULFILLED
NOW WE FIGHT FOR FREEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Anybody played any games with or against this guy yet?
I threw something together in Arena and he's cracked even with the limited card pool on there.
>>95887973Agreed. My one regret is that there are no 'fight' effects I can find in Black. A Zenos deck that is about making other creatures fight him 1v1 would be perfect.
>>95889030>this pushed mythic that does everything in one creature is crackedNoway