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>Previously>>95890129>TQWhich creature types do you want more of?
>>95904433 (OP)>Which creature types do you want more of?Gamer
>>95904433 (OP)Is time. Robots and Insects should take over this fucking game.
>>95904479>Robots and Insects should take over this fucking game.Robots and Aliens, anon.
>>95904483Fuck ayyy lmaos i want insectoids.
>>95904499No. You get Aliens.
>>95904505fuck your bitch ass
You think we are getting finally true Land Destruction support?
I wish I could kiss Thalia. I wish I wasn't so ugly. I got ghosted again so I'm done with dating for now. No more taking girls out to dinner just to make out for a few minutes then she blocks my number. Im done. It doesn't even matter if I get /fit/ because I'll still be ugly. And deep down my trash genetics are still there. Thalia would never want me. I wish I could hold her when she wakes up in the night, from a nightmare about werewolves or eldrazi. That's all I could really offer her, is comfort. I'll be unemployed soon because my company is shutting down. I can't even get a boner because I dryhumped pillows to masturbate for 15 years and now I feel tightness in my perineum and inner thigh. I was going to see a physical therapist finally then I lsot my job and the appointments not for months so I won't even have insurance then. I am a destroyed wreck of a man. S complete failure. At least as a NEET with savings I'll be able to play MTG more. Thalia is gone from standard. Maybe I can move on. She certainly would want nothing to do with me. I offer her nothing. She doesn't even care i exist and who could blame her? I wish I could my fingers through her moon colored hair, kiss her pale neck and arms. Just hold her close to me and feel her warmth, her youth, her heartbeat, her vitality. I wish I could connect my soul to hers. I remember Thalia making me want to die and live forever at the same time. I'd still do anything for her. That's the sad part.
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I am going to miss this sub-format.
>>95904433 (OP)> Which creature types do you want more of?Kavu. Seems like we might get more this year too
>>95904582>Wizards are unplayableIs sad every single time...
How do we make Izzet wizards great again?
>>95904823I actually did die to wizards before, but the pic was basically the nuttiest start imaginable.
>>95904839>IzzetDie. Please.
Still very much proof of concept, but I think Dragons have enough support now to be at least a semi-real deck. The key here is that Sarkhan + a Deathtouch dragon totally walls infinite threats. The wall also works fine with just a critical mass of regular dragons, too.
Just pretend the invisible mana base is flawless. Abrade is here because Cutter is the most broken POS printed since Lurrus and it seems like the best option that doesn't sacrifice too much to include.
Anyways, Grixis Dragon Control is here. And it's... adequate, so far. Perfectly tepid. But I think it has potential, will be fishing around for more pieces.
>>95904871Though it didn't make the cut, developing this deck also pointed me toward the great interaction between Manaform Hellkite and the Dragonstorms.
You technically need two Dragonstorms available to loop them, since the token comes down before the enchantment. But, turning every noncreature spell in general into a bounced Dragonstorm is fine with just one.
Unfortunately, a 4/4 flier that slings unlimited hellspark elementals for 2RR just didn't quite cut it, but it's an interesting value engine.
>Blocking is literally ILLEGAL in Standard 2025
How the hell can designers of a multinational billonaire company be such retarded people?
>>95905285people want FASTER games. their attention spans are rotten
>>95905370Then why are they roping every turn on arena? Are they watching a stream on their second monitor?
>>95904862Izzet is peak magic
>>95904871Come to alchemy....
>>95905427>Izzet the most retarded and unfair combination of colours is peak MagicSure thing, faggot-kun!
They could easily fix the mana system by giving cards landcycling or making it easier for non green decks to get access to lands
As an example, Ambitious farmhand was a great card
but no, they have to make 1 and 2 mana drops that are threats that must be removed or else they carry the game and 4 mana drops that close the game when they hit the field because of 1-2mana creatures that carry the game
>blocks mice in your path
>>95905623Blocking? Are you sure frendo?
>>95905651You had no two mana open.
>>95905623>>95905677you casted Thalia why wouldnt i have two mana open?
I miss Dredge
now that was real Magic
Why are you guys crying so much? Modern is in an amazing state right now and I feel that Magic IS finally fun for the first time in like 10 years. I wish we could stay like this forever.
>Like this forever
>With Prowess and Energy fucking game after game
Fuck off, thank you.
>>95905838How bad is Dredgeless in Pio?
it's up
https://magic.gg/news/magic-the-gathering-final-fantasy-standard-metagame-breakdown
Most played Final Fantasy cards:
374 Vivi Ornitier
61 Opera Love Song
55 Dark Confidant
42 Starting Town
39 Cecil, Dark Knight
35 Terra, Magical Adept
23 Self-Destruct
21 Ultima
>>95905427>I should be rewarded for filling my deck with cantrips... because I just should, okay?I might actually hate UR players even more than RDW tards, at least they don't pretend like there's something mentally taxing about casting an end step Consider.
>>95905930Standard bros! Are we, dare I say, FLOURISHING
>>95905930Yeah, I think I'll skip the coverage of this one.
>>95905943I hate Monstrous Rage so much it's unreal
>>95905930Not pictured: 700+ coris and 700+ monster rages.
>>95905879I can't believe anyone honestly thinks the Goblin Bombardment / Cori-Steel Cutter / Sowing Mycospawn format is fun to play, where every 'rogue deck' is just some degenerate turn 2-3 combo, because that's your only hope of competing with an MH3 precon.
>>95905930>One deck>42.3%42.3%
>42.3%42.3%
>42.3%42.3%
>42.3%WTF? WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK? MARK? MAAAAAAARK?!!! WHAT ARE YOU DOING KIKE???
>>95905930Thanks, anon, a PT i will completely not see, i saved a whole weekend of my life.
>>95905930so can we confirm pro mtg players are the laziest cunts ever?
>>95906258lil' Jimmy's never living this one down
>>95905879Oh yeah, play against Energy, Prowess and Belcher is so fun... Memedern retards are bottom of the barrel no doubt.
>>95905930YEESSSSS
YYEEEEESSS! FLOURISH, I SAY!
FLOURIIIIISHHHH!!!!!
>>95905930704 fucking copies of Cori-Steel Cutter in one fucking tournamnet.
>>95905930I've spent my whole yesterday jacking off and i've felt more intellectually stimulated that whatever the fuck that is
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95440670/#q95441854
>>95906422Admittedly, it was very bad in draft.
I honestly think people are underestimating how good Cori-Steel Cutter is.
>>95905930>Dark confident won't see playBobchads we are so fucking back
>>95906463People were already running 4x Snakebob in their sideboards pre-FF, and Bob is just better.
What went so wrong, Magicbros?
>>95905930>Jund Roots ft. Terra, Magical Adeptwhat the fuck do I actually need to play Standard?
that sounds sweet
>1 mana Moat + one-sided Howling Mine + Regrowth + Draw 25 cards
this shit is getting banned right?
>>95906391That's only what, $7-10k worth of card.
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>>95906559Wotc forgot it can ban cards.
>>95906582It should but it won't.
>>95906582nah, they're gonna ban some random card like atraxa or archon, then reanimator will continue to dominate until the next b&r so they can ban another random card again
>>95906582No, this game is about competitive gooning and who can splooge all over the table as cancerously as possible.
Fact that they won't ban cori should tell you everything.
Fact that they see no problem in cheating out omni should tell you that they know that the powerlevel of cards is so insane it can outcancer everything.
They should really print a card with an ETB that goes like
>if your opponent doesn't have this card or pays half they/their life, they lose the gameof course being a 2cmc 5/5 with indestructible
The drawback? It can't attack.
I have become death destroyer of formats.
I can compete with Oko hand to hand
And let me tell you a secret, i will survive this month banhammer.
>>95906025>>95906349>>95905885I'm 100% sure that most of you only play online, in my lgs there is 3 energy boros and 5 prowess and we are like 60 players.
>BelcherIf you lose consistently to belcher post sideboard you are unironically bad.
>>95907018Most posters in any general just look at tier lists and copy whatever their favorite streamer does. Posting your physical deck should be a requirement before crying.
>>95905523This has been my point for years. Despite all the ramp/fetch and card draw mono white has gotten, it was still never enough to make white a tier 0-1 deck in Standard.
Thalia didnโt matter
Grand Abolisher didnโt matter
Resplendent Angel didnโt matter
And now with Red taking control of Standard, Nosewater openly balks at the idea of white having STP/Path style removal. These facetious Netanyahoos never gave a shit about White and never will.
>>95905523>>95907147>wah wah another color does something better than whiteShut the fuck up.
>https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=70154&f=PREM
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Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home...
>>95907192Youโre the ones crying about Red and Cutter lmao
>>95907275>another nonwhite format You greedy shekel-suckers already have standard, pioneer and legacy. Piss off
>>95907313>most played card in the format is Swords to Plowshares>many top decks include white or white splash (UW Stiflenought, Enchantress, Replenish, Landstill, Terrageddon)>White Weenie is not only viable but a good deck that puts up tournament resultsSilence, retard
Forgot I still had this unfinished from two weeks ago, so I found some time to complete it. Couldn't leave an OG FF waifu wanting.
Nothing left until EOE, but I wouldn't hold your breath for space boobs coming from WotC.
>>95904871>4 thoughtseize>4 fatal push>duressYou could be playing Craw Wurm turbo with this removal.
>>95907377>NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T PLAY GOOD CARDS IN YOUR BREW!!!I fucking hate people like you so fucking much, this is why we can't have nice things.
>>95905523Because the last time they tried landcycling it gave us a (no longer) staple Modern card and a busted Legacy card solely off the fact they landcycled (for different reasons).
What I don't get is how Oops All Spells creeps up in power every time they print an MDFC land yet WotC never subjects them to the same scrutiny.
>>95904871kino deck, love me some dragons
>>95907406No I'm just saying Thoughtseize + Push is powerful enough to carry most brews to the point most of the remaining text on their cards is irrelevant because they fuck over so many decks. If you're using that set you need to apply a lot more scrutiny to your deck's performance since a lot of the time the game is "actually" won by you Thoughtseizing on 1 and fucking your opponent's hand.
>>95907377>play best interaction available in format in colors>WOW PLAYING 4 THOUGHTSEIZE 4 PUSH HUH???No idea why you've taken the time to post this repeatedly for years, but yes, every deck wants to run the most efficient interaction available in their colors. If you can't gain additional value in some way from running different removal (such as enchantment based removal in enchantress), then the choices for what to pick as interaction are very clear. Stop being a nogamez retard and never post this drivel again
>>95907439If you play black there is not much reason to NOT play those cards even in a brew is like playing an Aggro with Red and not put Rage or any sort of Blue control and not play Stock up.
>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T PLAY GOOD SPELLS IN YOUR BREW
>YOU WON THOUGHTSEIZING IN TURN 1 SO YOUR BREW IS INVALIDATED
faggots like this is one is why people thought cutter was a bad card, you people are simply so fucking bad at this game is unreal.
Truth nuke incoming: current standard format is healthier than ever before. It's just that that is to the internet we get one, at maximum two dominant decks. If we had 2015 meta this would still end up with 2 dominant decks
When the game is solved this fast you're bound to end up with only two decks, it's like the first past post election system
>>95907439>8 pieces of interaction in the 60>most likely going to draw 1-2 per game>and this singlehandedly causes your deck to loseAnon. . .
>>95907443nta but I 100% maintain Duress was a design mistake that only dodged a ban because it was the primary answer to one of the worst metas in the game's history. Thoughtseize, Unmask, and Grief are all evolutions of design that should never have been enabled in the first place because of how bad its play pattern is.
>>95905930Looks like standard is... FLOURISHING. No need for bans according to the quarterly report. Lets wait until rotation to see how the format changes.
>>95907506Yes anon that's textbook busted card when 1 resolved instance carries a game
>>95905930>>95907566Is really baffling the whole metagame article. They say Meta is healthy unironically and that EVERY archetype is represented and there was a very narrow window to broke the format and little time for experimentation, really this people are golden comedy.
>>95906884I can't see Oko being so dominant in modern right now, he might be unbannable and probably he won't be even played
>>95905285They soft-errataed first strike to be "first strike when attacking" because it was too strong as a defensive ability.
They litterally changed the rules of the game so defensive combat trick wouldn't work anymore
The point of the game now is to just slam your strongest card and swing with it, no thinking allowed
>>95907313>nonwhite formatWhite weenie/White midrange is viable. Moreover, unlike standard, the strongest creatures in the format that can be played reasonably within any game or reanimated are white. I.e. Exalted Angel and Akroma. Moreover the win condition for Replenish and Enchantress is white (Opalescence+Replenish). On top of that, White has Swords to Plowshares, the most efficient removal for white prior to the modern horizons slop. White is actually a win condition in premodern unlike standard.
>>95907616Of course it's represented goy. It's 15% omniscience which is combo and 10% a gaggle of blue/white control decks. ALL META-ARCHETYPES ARE REPRESENTED. Stop being so antisemitic.
>>95907513>Duress was a design mistake that dodged a banThis is the most insane thing I've ever seen posted here
>>95907513Sounds like you just hate mtg.
>>95907644WotC learned that they can bury their head in the sand and retards unironically like it more than them banning problem cards.
>>95907286I have no problem with red or cutter you whiny bitch. Try making your own deck for once.
>>95907628Timeless has Oko, Mana Drain, Fury, and Up the Beanstalk all legal, and it's still dominated by the MH3 energy precon + Juggernaut Peddler. MH3 is easily the worst set of all time, an actual crime against the game.
>>95907354> giving examples of white where itโs not the primary wincon and only as a splash color aka the cuck color>white weenie which has NEVER been actually goodKek what a retarded kike
>>95907660There's a reason every time a card even resembling Duress shows up in another card game it gets instantly banned. It's a proactive card that actively reduces the number of decisions there are to make in a game while simultaneously providing you with an enormous amount of information. It is one of the most braindead designs ever put to print and I'm not ashamed of recognizing it instead of huffing copium over how long it has been in the game.
>>95907716>obviously still crying about red and cutter like a whiny retardLmao, kek, hearty chuckle even
>>95907777implying other card games have any meaningful decision-making in the first place
>>95907859Yes I'm sorry Magic has so much more depth with 70% aggro (notoriously difficult and complex deck) presence. Rakdos scam was actually a very involved meta.
>>95907513Duress by itself is fine, but Thoughtseize is actually terrible for the game. It killed Pioneer, and Thoughtseize + Break Expectations/Juggernaut Peddler killed Historic. Formats always shit themselves whenever a high meta % deck is playing 8x copies of Thoughtseize. It's why people despised Scam so much in Modern.
>>95907513Hand disruption can be balanced if it's designed to take away an option from the opponent but without creating a huge advantage or punishing a player for having cards in hand
I've been playing rakdos demons and found Sire of Insanity is a well balanced cards.
>6cmc>6/4>both players discard their handYugioh has dark world dealings which makes both players discard and then draw one
You took away a resource of your opponent and went -1 unless you discarded something you want in the GY, same goes for the opponent
But let's not talk about deck disruption like
>Jasper (outlaw)>Etalis>Siphon insightthat not only take away your opponents resources before they can draw them, but you can use those cards against them without any real restriction and how that's even more cancerous than any discard card.
Such effects would be balanced if it required the caster to pay the actual mana costs and how exiled cards would go back to the bottom of the library if not casted or the grave if casted..
Let's not talk about how piss easy it is to abuse mill in this game and unless you're running specific stuff to counter milling decks or run aggro, you can pretty much just scoop on t1.
In the end, a 1drop discard spell should never give you the choice or information about your opp's hand
On the other hand, some decks barely run oout gas so in the current game hand disruption isn't a huge problem but it also doesn't get any better because wotc refuses to use their brain a numtg players just want to jerk off with card.
Grief is just fucking cancer tho
>>95907890if your format gets killed by basic bitch discard it probably wasn't a real format to begin with
>>95907777>every time a card even resembling Duress shows up in another card game it gets instantly bannedUnlike other games, in MTG, seeing 3 lands and a few non-lands is not a huge amount of information. In many decks, if you think your opponent is playing meta and they go first and play certain turn one cards, you already got more information than duress will get you as you know what 90%+ is in their deck.
Moreover, duress unlike the example of mind twist it's only one card unlike the pokemon examples. Second the trainer cards in pokemon DO NOT REQUIRE ENERGY. Whereas duress requires you to tap mana which means you can't dismember, fatal push, etc. a 2/2 with haste attacking you on the opponents turn and you may not have the mana to counter anything or do any other actions you would have if you had that land untapped. Especially in the early game this is often a HUGE opportunity cost. Yugioh also doesn't require mana for the spells and allows unlimited spells per turn only limited by your hand. It does not stop you from placing a trap card or playing a monster. There is no immediate opportunity cost.
Hearthstone/Wow also does way more damage apparently though I don't know the rules about each card being played since I don't touch nu-Blizzard slop.
Plus you have to consider that MTG ideally should be a complex and strategic game at least before its started becoming about getting out turn 2 wins with your aggro deck. A more intellectual game where you are supposed to have a long game to manage what you have rather than just putting two big creatures down and having them attack each other to win as would be the case in Yugioh or Pokemon.
Duress is an excellent card for what MTG should be. If anything the real problem is entirely that we get aggro-babies like you come into the game and expect it to be like Yugayhoe and JotC starts making the game more and more like those games to attract you fucking aggro babies.
>>95907914Grief by itself doesn't do shit unlike Thoughtseize.
>>95907919There hasn't been a real format in this game since this guy got printed.
>>95907962miss him so much
>>95907959you can play it without having any mana on t1 and his a 3/2 body as well
It's better
Unban it and reprint it across all formats.
>>95907777>Duress is broken in PokemonLol
>>95907993>without having any manaBut two other cards. Thoughtseize only requires the mana.
>>95907956>Conveniently ignores Grief because it goes against his narrative of discard only ever being used by nuanced decks that make people thinkAppointer of the Red Lotus also got banned despite the fact it makes you pay 25% of your starting life and reveals your hand for cost AND can't be used to stop your opponent from disrupting you AND giving the card back to them at the end of their turn.
Jesse and James got banned despite being a supporter card (arguably the biggest opportunity cost in the game) that lets your opponent choose what they discard.
Magic is the only game where cards like this exist and people bend over backwards to justify it when their own statistics show its presence is game-warping in favor of aggressive strategies that get the play.
Duress is a card that instantly tells you every threat and answer in your opponent's hand, and if that wasn't enough (this was enough to get Git Probe banned), it lets you take away their best answer. It actively detracts from strategizing because it tells you the answer upfront.
>>95907959>doesn't do shit unlike ThoughtseizeGrief is just Unmask in creature form which is still legal in Legacy, Vintage, and premodern. By removing a black card from your hand from the game, you can force your opponent to discard a non-land card of your choice without paying mana. It does the exact same thing as thoughtsieze by itself only just by removing a card in your hand from the game instead of having to tap a land which makes it a strong card in spite of its drawback. Or you just wait until turn 4 to play it and have it do the same thing as thoughtsieze.
The reason Grief was banned is because there is a surplus of one mana cost cards for black that all you to return a creature to play when it dies after entering play as per the revoke cost like undying evil which allowed you to remove TWO cards from your opponents hand of your choice and then get a 4/3 on turn one. Yeah you could bolt or swords it, but do you really have any of those left in your hand after this thing came into play twice? THAT is why it's banned. Not because you can look at your opponents hand and remove one card.
>>95908016Ghetsis legality status?
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>>95908017A(1) black card
and you have a body with menace and you can remove any removal your opp might have before he can even respond
Am i missing something?
Handcard advantage barely matters in this game
>>95908028>The reason Grief was banned is because there is a surplus of one mana cost cardsNah, when Grief was released those cards already existed and it wasn't doing shit in Legacy. It was only after the Frog, Bowmasters, Troll package that it became really efficient. Grief is entirely dependent on good black shells to be relevant, while the same cannot be said about Thoughtseize.
>>95908038>A(1) black cardWhat about Undying Evil?
>>95908050Frog was used in Rakdos scam?
>>95908068I'm not talking about all three in every deck with Grief.
>>95908022Aggro baby... See
>>95908028and reread
>>95908022The reason the cards banned in your aggro baby games are banned is because they have entirely different rulesets in which there is no immediate opportunity cost to using those cards. Whereas in MTG there is a fairly significant opportunity cost.
>this was enough to get Git Probe bannedGit Probe also allowed you to pay 2 life instead of the mana cost, a much lower cost than reducing your handsize by an additional card to play it and also replaced itself with a draw. So you lost only 10% of your life total to both see the opponent's hand AND then go back up to 7 cards. And then you get to play whatever you want. Whereas without combo, Grief costs you 2 cards to get rid of one. Imagine playing storm with git probe and drawing more gitprobes on turn 1. You're up two spells on turn 1 without paying any mana and then if you get the rituals, the other dig, and good draws that let you essentially play out your deck over and over again, you could win that turn by storming your opponent's library or life total away.
>>95908050Let me help you with your cherrypicked statements aggro baby retard
>The reason Grief was banned is because there is a surplus of one mana cost cards for black that all you to return a creature to play when it dies after entering play as per the revoke cost like undying evil which allowed you to remove TWO cards from your opponents hand of your choice and then get a 4/3 on turn one.Which is why it was banned in the first place because it was doing that and being spammed across something like 40% of the decks just like Nadu. Not because MH3 and LAWD OF DA KANGZ was printed.
>it wasn't doing shit in LegacyBecause the game had been powercrept for aggro babies like you for more than a decade at that point where discard was not as significant as before. Fetch land into basic into thoughtsieze? Cool, I kill you in turn 2 instead of turn 3 with a legacy aggro deck.
>>95908129>Which is why it was banned in the first place because it was doing that and being spammed across something like 40% of the decks just like Nadu. Not because MH3 and LAWD OF DA KANGZ was printedGrief was in 40% of Legacy decks before MH3 and LotR? Post source.
>Cool, I kill you in turn 2 instead of turn 3 with a legacy aggro deckKek no you don't because you clearly don't play Legacy.
>>95908151>Grief was in 40% of Legacy decks before MH3 and LotR? Post source.Work on your reading comprehension retard. I never said that. I said it was being played at 40%+ with THAT COMBO.
>Kek no you don't because you clearly don't play Legacy.I don't play legacy anymore because the powercrept cards have ruined it completely in the last few years.
Also, you must be 18 or older to post here.
>>95908129>Incoherent womanspeak the moment it gets pointed out that discard is a brainless aggro strat
>>95908173>I never said that. I said it was being played at 40%+ with THAT COMBO.That's the point, anon. Why wasn't it in ***40%*** of decks before MH3 and LotR? Any guesses?
>I don't play legacy anymore becauseKek it shows
>>95907275Stop exporting your annoying culture.
>>95908190Discard faggots actually think it takes skill to play turn 1 uninteractable remove anything.
>All this talk of Grief and why it needed to be banned
But JOTC shekel suckers said that power level wasnโt indicative of needing a ban. Seems like typical kosher behavior again.
>>95908317Bro, modern audience believes game that plays and wins for you is actually you playing.
They're clinically retarded, please understand.
>>95908341they couldn't care less about power level
they avoid banning the actual problem cards as much as they can which is why they ban adjacent stuff like grief when they're done making money from it
Quick question, before i look it up;
Is there a tangible financial incentive in playing official tourneys?
Because if there is then this game ain't getting any better.
Metaslave and "pros" will keep buying shit and wotc keeps making money, everybody complains but the flow of money never stops, so they won't ever see any reason to change their approach to anything.
>>95908306Manoel it's time to go to bed.
>>95905930Lets get back on topic then. Your deck is shit and doesn't work. It loses 90% of the time to aggro whether IRL or on Arena. Never ever post again about how you can turn 3 win with nothing to reanimate in the graveyard when aggro already beat you.
>premodern
>lot of viable decks including quite a few rogue decks
>no deck is over 9% of the tournament format
>only 29 expansions worth of cards
>plenty of affordable decks (less than $200) when using reprints or even cheaper with proxies or free if using Cockatrice/Xmage
>creatures are low power level so the game isn't a rush to win in turn 3 unlike all other formats
Fairly balanced and yet this thread is full of JotC shills want to divert you to standard, Arena, or some other hebraic format
>b-but Arena is FTP
Arena takes forever to get the gems to get the most of it. If you're not spending a lot of time to get 15 wins per day, then it will take 20 days (almost a month) to get enough coins to draft for gems. With 15 wins per day, it still takes around 10 days to get the gems. Unless you're trying to rig drafts with a bunch of accounts, you're just as likely to get little from the drafts. Might as well just do something else instead like go to Cockatrice/Xmage to play for free and make whatever deck you want with whatever art you want FOR FREE WITHOUT GRIND.
>>95908525Stop shilling, I don't want arenababs shitting up my meet ups and monthlies.
>>95908539Shilling? Quite the opposite. I doubt Arenawhales will visit your monthlies though. They probably don't have their mother's permission to leave the house.
>>95908525>hebraic format>can't play picrel
>>95905930Le flourishing faec. Actually unironically want to place Cecil+Bob.dec. I used to play Carnophage and Dauthi Slayer back in the day
>>95908569Played in Tireless Tribe when it doesn't run J Dilla Cloak or Rancor. Gitgud with your shitposting
>>95908306This is becoming a not an argument kind of a deal.
>>95908622>Tireless Tribe>hebraic formatpick one
>>95907959Grief is way more problematic.
>Thoughtseize has extremely limited combo options. Usually what it says on the card is the best it'll get.>Grief goes apeshit with any reanimation or blink adjacent card. Even with 1 or 2 synergy cards in your hand it turns the card into Mind Twist really fast.>Thoughtseize costs 1 mana>Grief can be easily played for 0. The difference between something costing 1 mana and 0 is completely massive.>Thoughtseize can not win the game on it's own. It resolves and does it's effect and the game continues.>Grief is a creature (with some evasion for whatever fucking reason lmao) and it can certainly win the game. Even just casting it fairly on 4 mana, ripping a card and presenting a clock is not terrible.>also when your opponent is topdecking you'd rather have Grief because its a creature that can potentially end the gameThe only """"""""""""""""downside"""""""""""""""""""""" to Grief is that it has a miniscule amount of deckbuilding restrictions AKA you probably want enough black spells and some reasonable synergy cards. Whoever designed and approved of Grief and the other evoke elementals should have been stuffed in an oven.
>>95908427>before I look it upNo, in fact the winners of major regionals are replaced with alien dopplegangers used to sell more product and turn it into the bright cyan slime that runs the interstellar imperial trucker empire.
All prize packs from your locals are impregnated with microplastics that make your genetics imperceptibly more like a gerbil, which after ten thousand years will cause humanity to have fully regressed to expand the space pet trade.
>>95905930Unironically what do they need to ban in order to unfuck this meta?
>>95908525It's just not fun. No one cares how "balanced" it is.
>>95908759They need to ban more than just Cori and Rage. Standard festered for far too long. For red alone you'd need to hit Manifold Mouse or Slickshot too, not just Cori and Rage. You also need to ban either Omniscience or Abuelo's. If it were me I'd ban Cori, Rage, Manifold/Slickshot, Omniscience, TTABE, Beans, Stock Up because you really have to scorch earth this format. Im putting my faith too much on JotC though, that article was unironically written as a puffpiece to downplay FORTY TWO FUCKING PERCENT metashare.
>>95908759You need more than bans. The way they design cards leads to them being unfun and one or two decks to rape everything else. If you don't fix the design problem, you can have amazing bans and the game will still be unplayable.
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>>95908759At least and i'm saying this again AT LEAST 5 cards:
Cutter
Rage
Omni
Beans
Mice (any of them or maybe all of them)
And still you will have to deal with Town, Pic related and Occulus decks but will be a good start.
>>95907616>>95905930>Together, these four archetypes command 77.3% of the field. All were established decks prior to the release of Magic: The GatheringโFINAL FANTASY, but the sheer popularity of Izzet Prowess and Azorius Omniscience has exceeded even the expectations of Pro Tour veterans and coverage insiders.>The remaining 22.7% of the metagame is where things get interesting. Dozens of archetypes, most representing between 1% and 3% of the field, reflect the depth of today's Standard. While familiar faces like Dimir Midrange, Jeskai Control, Jeskai Oculus, and Orzhov Demons are appearing in lower numbers than before, the field also includes a few spicy surprises. Chief among them are the Jund Roots and Golgari Roots decks, which can flood the battlefield with Plant tokens. As the tournament unfolds, it will be exciting to see which of these off-meta strategies can turn heads and make a deep run.
>>95905930I'm only sad that Jim Davis isn't on commentary so we don't get to hear him suffer through endless Cori mirrors as penance (and desu he would be a major improvement on the troons they usually hire)
>>95908947Jim Davis is not on commentary because he is afraid that after the 10th Cori Mirror in a row people start asking him if Cori being good is just this game entire population being LAZY like the faggot has the balls to say.
Jim Davis is disqualified as pro commentator after saying that absolute shit.
>>95905930Standard is thriving althoughbeit.
>>95908964Daniel, you need help.
>>95908964>interesting puzzleWHAT INTERESTING PUZZLE YOU DUMBFUCK? PLAYING RED AND WINNING??
>>95908964With that profile picture is no difficult to guess he has negative IQ...
>>95908964>at a casual level people just fling shit at each other>at a high level people use only a few different strategiesHow is this a puzzle? This is the dynamic of literally any competitive anything. Fighting games, strategy games, card games, sports or whatever. It doesn't make it a good thing, especially when there's only 2 decks people are really considering at a high level.
>>95908697>Thoughtseize costs 1 mana. Grief can be easily played for 0. The difference between something costing 1 mana and 0 is completely massive.But then it's just Unmask, hardly a meta warper. It's the little T1 Grief combo that takes 4 cards that supposedly makes it more problematic, but Thoughtseize takes half of that meaning T1 Thoughtseize way easier and more likely than T1 Grief, and Thoughtseize T1 definitely wins more games than late game Grief. If you don't have Grief and the other 2 cards you need to combo in your hand t1 (besides the same mana you'd otherwise use to cast Thoughtseize) the card loses most of its value. No one is bothered by a 4cmc 3/2 French vanilla.
>The only """"""""""""""""downside"""""""""""""""""""""" to Grief is that it has a miniscule amount of deckbuilding restrictions AKA you probably want enough black spells and some reasonable synergy cards.This is true. It's a minuscule amount of deckbuilding restrictions when the meta is saturated with good cards of the same color.
>>95908987>How is this a puzzle?he's not saying it's a puzzle he can't solve, he's saying that a warped metagame is a interesting puzzle to solve for pro players
>>95908999>A warped metagame is a interesting pluzzl to solve for pro players>Pro players solution: 42% of a deck in the whole metaYep, truly fascinating. Watching that Pro Tour would be a real experience for those who are willing to go through mirror after mirror of the same shit deck.
>>95908964>if you go to casual fnmCasual fnm is literally in the shitter attendance wise
>>95908015>*makes cutter decks even better in your path*
B&R incoming in two weeks. Here is an spoiler
No Changes
>>95909030Cutter will be out of equation anon, no way that card remains.
>>95909035More spoilers
Just play Premodern
>>95908964is really astonishing how people have the balls to say retarded shit just becaus they are behind a screen right?
>>95908999A warped metagame like this isn't interesting. You KNOW what the best deck in the room is, and you KNOW what the most popular deck in the room will be. So you just plan around that. There is almost no decision making or puzzling going on there.
>>95909015>Pro players solution: 42% of a deck in the whole metaif it wasn't a puzzle, it would be 100% of one deck, you're misreading my intent here, I'm not defending that the current situation is good because pros get to solve a puzzle, I'm simply pointing out that the guy on twitter isn't confused about the situation like you initially thought, he's the one defending it
if it were up to me we would have like over 10 bans and fuck the pros if they don't like it
>>95909059>So you just plan around that.this is the interesting part to pros, again I'm not saying this is a good thing but it's indisputable that pros like warped metagames, this isn't exclusive to magic
Have Kikes of the Coast the balls to ban more than ONE (1) card? Make your bets.
>>95909073>it would be 100% of one deckThis literally never happens in any card game. Even in a tier 0 meta game, people are still gonna show up with their pet meme decks or try something off-meta because it's still a game people have fun with. Doesn't make it any less-solved.
>>95909051More spoilers
Premodern is now a sanctione format and we will be starting Premodern Horizons spoilers on July 5th
>>95909094Premodernbros I don't feel so good
>>95904433 (OP)>Edge of Previews EditionWhere? I want to see this dumpsterfire!
>>95909089>This literally never happens in any card game.ok then whatever other % you think it might be realistic
>Doesn't make it any less-solved.I'm talking about how pros engage with solved metagames, not that metagames aren't solved because pros engage with it
>>95908759>>95908833The last time WotC banned more than 4 (real) cards in a non-EDH format was 2005. There's simply no way they can ever hope to clean up after the mess they've made.
Not a spoiler but as always zero mono white cards banned because KHW
>>95908722i looked it up
so basically 50k for the winner with a 200k+ prize pool or some thing
Does someone either now or can look up if bans happened around times with lack of sales or attendance at big official events?
You always want to follow the money if shit don't make any sense.
>No, in fact the winners of major regionals are replaced with alien dopplegangers used to sell more productNo need to be racist, they're just called "content creators"
>buy 2 foil mrd charbelchers from LGS for about $20 each
>proxies get made of it
>check buylist prices for it
>$65 each
>price on other sites remains unchanged
Am I missing something?
>>95909084pros only like money so they don't have to get a job and gaslighting others into being interested in the game as to keep it relevant because if interest dries up, so does the money.
Playing broken shit ups their chances of winning coin flips and going home with money, and ironically, why would you try to fix something that isn't broken?
If a game was a true show of skill and didn't completely remove player agency from the equation as it is the case now with most game, most players and pros wouldn't make it past the first rounds of anything
The majority of "pros" absolutely no clue how to go past layer 1 interactions but it is also the fault of the games being extremely shallow so that even your Norman, god emperor of the normies can play and succeed at the game and buy more game.
But enough about Tekken8YugiohStreetfighterPokemonHearthstone.
>>95909374>name, titlelol no it's more commanderbait
probably a land
>>95909390Lands don't have mana cost it's a creature.
>>95904479>>95904483>>95904505>>95909378I have faith the World Shapers will be insects, and itโs ratty much guaranteed theyโll tell us tomorrow. Pretty much every month-early preview shows off the commanders for the upcoming commander decks.
>>95909418>ratty*pretty, damn you autocorrect.
Oh cool I passed along a $120 card in draft because I thought its abilities were overpowered in this faggot riddled game
>>95909366I hope they introduce more spooky planets. The unfinity lands were too good to be trapped in an un-set. Then again, un-set always had amazing lands
>>95909366This is going to be legendary enchantment - Planet or something. It cant be a commander, it doesnt have a P/T
>want to buy old basic lands because i like them more than new ones and they visually stand out so they don't blend with the other cards
>can't find anyone selling them at reasonable prices
Why don't they make full art basics standard is beyond me.
>>95909020Yes but the audience for this game has always smelled like shit
>>95909366Mark my words
Sheoldred substitute
>>95909366As confusing as it was considering a land with a mana cost, it actually could work if done right. You allocate mana to play a more powerful land, presumably to either get more mana on future turns or to get a passive effect that canโt be stopped by anything less than nonbasic land removal. Not sure how big of a benefit you would need to justify a 4-mana land in standard though, probably just commander bait.
>>95909366Just proxy it dude. It's just a shitty, generic, and easily reproducible black hole art . Who fucking cares? Stop paying jotC to print more shitty generic art and these ugly cards. Don't give JotC any more money and stop getting hyped over nothing.
>>95909094 Point of premodern is to exclude any new releases including the excess of power creep. JotC can steal whatever they want, we'll just make the "classic" format that excludes premodern horizons. If they catch on and do it again, we'll just repeat with "antique" format, and so on.
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At this point i'm rather interested what goes on at R&D than the game itself.
What kind of mari juana do they inject in their veins? How much crack do they eat?
>>95909538It's most likely the "card designers" just fuck around the whole time while waiting for the art to come in and then they have some AI program just generate some MTG card for them. JotC probably also has whoever's Epstein's replacement bring them children to exploit in between bouts of last second AI generation for their cards.
tried to play hogaak today
opponent dropped a dauthi voidwalker on 2 and my deck collapsed on itself
I really hope they nuke oops and reanimator so graveyard decks can exist again
>>95909445Practically every set for the past year has had full art basics. What are you complaining about?
>>95909564Consider not playing modern or legacy.
>>95909088Why would you want to do that? Standard is FLOURISHING
>>95909577modern is fine to me, I played red belcher for hours last week, I just really wanted to scratch the hogaak itch and got fucked in the ass
>Started getting recommended Japanese auto-dubbed mtga videos
>Get to learn the names of cards in Japanese
>"Deadly coverup" is called "Dead men tell no tales"
Damn, why can't we get names like that
>>95909605This Town Aint Big Enough is "This Town Is Too Small"
>>95909592>modern is fine to me
REMINDER: SPIDERMAN COMES AFTER EDGING FOR ETERNITY
>>95909592>I played red belcher for hours last weekaverage modern enjoyer
>>95909564Graveyard hate doesn't beat UB reanimator because they can just tempo you, or discard it if it's stack interaction rather than permanant hate. Oops is fine, it has a <50% winrate in challenges over the past month and is barely being played. The format overall is sick and needs to be gutted.
I stopped playing after guilds of ravnica, what is with the insane price increases? They tried to charge me $50 for the final fantasy prerelease and i just laughed and walked out. Spent it on the Tidus commander deck instead, which was $70, but is selling online for $120. I don't understand. Should I just sell the expensive cards in this deck now? I bought it for collecting but I can't believe the prices. Why the fuck is sphere grid $34?
>>95909625>>95909644yes i'm a combo degenerate, my introduction to modern was gifts storm and dredge, I like doing broken shit on turn 2 and i will not apologize for it
>>95909657Its the fomo for FF. The regular packs are already goung under, its the collector pack thats going up and up because it has chocobo lottery and alternate waifu art for the characters
>>95909700Okay, very crazy to see this happening. I think I will sell the more expensive cards from the deck desu. It doesn't seem reasonable that some of these prices will remain.
You now remember when people thought Seige Rhino being 18% of the meta was considered egregious and stale
>>95909655>Graveyard hate doesn't beat UB reanimator
>bought my waifus card
>prices have already gone up 30%
Good god
>>95909759We had good and didn't knew it. BTW Theros-Tarkir standard was more diverse than the shit today.
>>95909793Reanimator is so powerful the only way to beat it is playing Reanimator too.
Just because there isn't much variety doesn't mean the game isn't complex. Mirror matches can bring out the better player
>>95909881Yeah anon! Will be fucking great the complex and strategic choices that both players will have to make like: Should i cast this Cutter? How many haste prowess tokens can i make in a turn? Look at the time! Is turn 3 baby lets end this game!
Peak Magic: The Gathering!
>complaining about official formats ruined by new releases
Come back home /tg/...
Come to premodern.
>>95909963I only play fun formats sorry
>>95910013If you were having fun with what you were playing, you wouldn't be complaining about it on a chinese cartoon forum.
>>95910035I'm not complaining about any formats I play. I'm calling one that I've tried and don't play not fun.
>>95910045sounds like you just don't like mtg
NEW FLOURISHING UPDATE
>AGGRO: 77% OF FORMAT
>CUTTER+RDW: 54% OF FORMAT
>54%
>MTGTOP8 STANDARD PAGE NOW ALMOST ENTIRELY FITS ON PAGE
>>95907147White is currently a tier 1 deck in standard
>>95910075If you like every format and way to play just because it's mtg you probably have autism.
>>95909494Guessing you're one of those guys who shells out for the anime art
>>95910129I don't buy any anime art.
>>95910182There are at least a few thousand people who play premodern.
>>95910106?
what no its not
>53% MONSTROUS RAGE
UNIVERSES BEYOND FLOURISHING
mono red, izzet prowess, etc
they turn 3-4 kill me, whatever
but what i really hate is mono black
>x4 cut down x4 go for the throat x4 duress x4 fucking discard bat zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
its just a deck with all removal its so fucking boring to play against
>>95910106>white>tier one>standardFound the true schizo
>>95907377I always try to find other options but, unfortunately, it's just the kind of list that needs it. And, even more unfortunately, Grixis's only decent answer to Cutter is the Thoughtseize clones.
I'm always happy to use other options, like Clawing Torment over Fatal Push in some black aggro lists. But, unfortunately, this one just demanded the efficient pieces.
>>95910104>MTGTOP8 STANDARD PAGE NOW ALMOST ENTIRELY FITS ON PAGEWe're approaching an absolute state of affairs where the entire format fits on a fucking business card.
>>95910270Never goy. Now make sure to buy the collectible MTG tifa sex doll.
>>95910013Premodern is literally the most fun format that currently exists.
just opened this, I made the money on my box back easily
>>95909366Oh boy, I can't wait for [insert generic scifi trope with no substance] 364 times in a row!
>>95910528Air Pocket
Cut the Cord
Unheard Screams
Dark side of the Moon
Blaster from the Past
Oxygen Runner
Gravity Wealth
Floated Away
Toss into Orbit
Asteroid Rage
Black Hole Sun
Terramorphic (obvious reprint)
Satellite Stomper
Event Horizon
Starburst Effect
Solar Flare
Moon Rhox
Booster Rockets
And now Iโm out of space tropes
>>95910501>I made the money on my box backfrom whom?
>>95908964Genuinely I dont understand what his point is. Yes Seth has bad opinions regarding competitive formats and he should probably stick to cumhander, but he's correct that 56% aggro metashare is fucking retarded and unhealthy and requires bannings. Like you cant tell me the format doesnt need bannings, or is this daniel guy just upset that JotC would rather listen to him than pro player opinion #57381 like Jim "Youre just lazy ackshually" Davis and Brian "Sellout" Kibler?
>>95909868Truly was the last time MTG was in a good state in every format
>>95910614Aggro being good is a sign of a healthy meta
>>95910614>56% aggro metashare is fucking retarded and unhealthyExplain how without seething.
>>95904454>>95904476>JotC after seeding online discussions with their own bot-spammed bullshit which is just nonsense mark nosewater wants the game to becomeWe hear you and we'll get right on it.
>>95905449How'd that work out for Hasbara's stock price?
>>95906559Everything. But mostly jews, capitalism and women.
>>95906582>herThat's weird. It should say "its" as in the card. They gendering the characters in the fucking cards now?
>>95910629Hasbro is FLOURISHING
>>95907707That's a cute little fantasyland you live in there. In reality where we all live what actually happens is people throw up their hands and abandon the broken fucking game in droves, which is why the company is now having an identity crisis.
>>95910614I agree that Kibler is a sellout but be did publicly ask for standard bans multiple times in the last year or so
>>95904433 (OP)I'm a paper standard player who just dethawed out of the ice after 6+ years out of the game ( I did some RL shit and casted two 9 month spells ). What the fuck happened to the irl magic scene? Why the fuck is everyone playing commander? As in, literally fucking everyone? There is no FNM anymore at my LGS, just 1 draft every 2 weeks and infinite commander game nights.
Where does a nigger have to go for some actual 1v1 constructed magic with randos that isn't over the internet?
>>95910639They've been doing that with creatures who are/were planeswalkers for a long time.
>>95907660Yes, because you're an unfun cunt. All of the worst mistakes in MTG's history have favored the same two colors: blue and black. Counterspells, discard, stax bullshit, free spells, etc. You name it. These two colors have eaten up the game since Alpha. It's just that now nobody is left to play the fucking toxic pile of sewage that used to be MTG except those sorts of players. Everyone else left. It's also the reason for the cancerous reserved list everyone hates. Except for one rich idiot who inevitably is a blue/black player (if the faggot even plays the game at all). I would stake my very life on it.
>>95907699Discard is getting permanently banned as a mechanic. Anything that effectively shuts down the game for your opponent is getting permanently banned as a mechanic.
>>95910655Some stores a little further from me do Standard nights. Look up which ones near you do. Search for "store championship"
>>95907777Don't listen to the bots. You're not just 100% correct. You're on the right track for how this game gets fixed.
>>95907859Does MTG at this point? Most decks could be piloted by a waterwheel powered dildo nowadays.
>>95908306>that abilityLOL
>>95908365Yeah, these entire discussions on any forum are all the same shit: the remaining actual human players hate every single thing JotC is doing, and they are inevitably shouted down by 5x as many bots shilling JotC's current narrative that the entire game being shut down so a rich idiot can play solitaire against a child that just learned how to tap land for mana is fine actually. I don't know if there is literally anything about this game that is being done right at this point.
>>95910626Decks have been crippled for less
>>95910664Jesus Christ what a whiny little bitch go "play" EDH holy shit
>>95908697There's nothing wrong with the evoke mechanic. Grief is satanic though and it's a problem because it's discard.
One day, the spike retards that have killed this game dead will be forced to admit that they and their favorite cancermechanics were always the problem. How much will spikes like "winning is fun" when MTG gets shuttered because they ran off enough customers with hateful gameplay that the entire thing becomes more expensive to maintain than they make off if it?
Is that still "winning"?
>>95908759Mark rosewater and trannies from applying at JotC.
Unironically.
If this shit is allowed to fester, that fucking kike will turn the entire game into the acorn universe.
>>95908793I love how everyone is so retarded they've come to believe red giant growth is the issue when it appears in a deck with one of if not THE most powerful one drops ever printed that has NO fucking business existing.
>>95908759Standard was festering at the last Pro Tour where the fucking finals were just Beans vs Beans vs Beans vs Beans and every match was a four-hour valueslop fuckfest where nobody could win and nothing happened until someone randomly figured out they had lethal on board.
You need to ban Standard's rotation extension first. The longer duration for Standard is a fucking crime against the game. Then you have a solid, maybe, fifty six cards you need to ban before it becomes a healthy format again.
>>95910721This is powercrept already. Most red decks dont need ir
>>95910721Swiftspear is ridiculous, yes. That they had the gat dayum balls to give it, a 1-cmc red creature, 2 toughness is the worst part.
>>95910692>can't answer the questionAverage anti-aggro tard
>>95908759All the problematic nonwhite cards as usual. We go through this every year and every year itโs same shekel problem; nonwhite cards. Thereโs been 7 years of nonwhite FIRE bans and never a single mono white card, rare or otherwise, powerful enough to warp the meta and warrant a ban.
So maybe, just MAYBE, in the 7 fucking years of nonwhite bullshit we could TRY at least maybe ONE actual powerful white card?
>>95910664>CounterspellsGot nerfed into the ground because of Timmies bitching. The fact that the bar has been locked to Negate and Cancel in a meta of 1-drop creatures winning the game should say everything about how ineffective counterspells are now even in control mirrors.
>Stax bullshitWhite and colorless
>Free spellsRed!
Overall I give you a D+. Was amusing enough to reply.
>>95910721>He somehow didn't post the insanely powercrept version that triggers prowess and also draws you a loopable Pull from the Deep on ETBSwiftie is the single worst card in both RDW and UR
>>95910754If you made your own deck you'd be able to play all the white cards you want.
>>95910776Caretaker decks donโt win games, retard. Take your head out of the flourishing meta that is your ass and check the data.
>>95908964Daniel is the problem. When JotC is spamming "this game isn't for you", it should be getting directed at the Daniels of the world.
>>95910792>I care about winning>I care about how good my favorite color isPick one
>>95910738I mean that was an answer. Decks have been nerfed for much much less. What makes Cori and mice different?
>>95909088I think they'll ban exactly two red cards. And none of them will be Cori, Swiftspear, Mouse or anything that is actually the problem. I think I know KotK well enough to predict that. I'm sure about 3 or 4 random green cards will get banned for no reason. Especially if any of them grant even temporary protection from black or blue's bullshit. Welp, nevermind, I guess they preempted it. There's basically no green cards in standard that grant any sort of counter to blue or black's bullshit lol. They seem to have "corrected the problem". I'm sure they'll still find a way to ban a card in a color literally nobody has played for 20 years. Remember the design philosophy of KotK blue should be allowed to commit crimes against anyone it wants, but it NEEDS a helpless victim, because fighting back is WRONG.
>>95910809>I mean that was an answerIf you're illiterate. Other decks being nerfed for less has nothing to do with
>56% aggro metashare is fucking retarded and unhealthy
>>95910821It does.
Other decks have been crippled for being less than 56% metashare.
Tell me what makes aggro unique that its somehow OK to have 56% of the meta.
>>95909233During Eldraine they banned like 4 green cards, and allowed blue to keep all the shit it was tearing up the game with. They even reprinted in blue almost immediately a card they banned in green. Just like the bullshit they pulled with Thrun and Phantasmal Image. They literally had to change the god damned legend rule to rein in blue's bullshit. I don't recall the last time GAME FUNCTIONS had to be changed to make up for a single color's horseshit. Anyone?
>>95909366Dear god this set is going to be ass.
>>95909425Yes but have you considered that's the only way nosewater can figure to get ANYONE to buy his stupid parody bullshit?
>>95909538Literally look up ANY MTG designer currently employed at the CIA- I mean Hasbara. They will either be:
1: A jew
2: A tranny
I'm literally not even making this up. Anyone in charge is a jew and anyone "lower down" is a troon. All white, of course. Because god forbid some darkie should get one of THEIR jobs. They'll use them as a weapon against the customers, but they don't actually believe in any of their own DEI bullshit.
>>95909558Same crowd in control of everything now, so yeah, pretty likely.
My grandma works for the WotC cafeteria. She says that the planet Shocklands will be in edging for eternity because people liked them in Unfinity but didnt want to buy the set
I think every card from bloomburrow amd duskmorne should be banned desu
>>95910877>>95910878It creates robots instead of constructs.
>>95910891constructs are urza talk
>>95910877>>95910878Seems completely unplayable in Standard, unsurprisingly.
>>95910877There is at least one other nonartifact colorless card due to him being number 2.
>>95910908>claiming to know the meta when bans and rotation are upon usclassic
>>95910887Magali saved FF shes also hard carrying this set, she's so good.
>>95909564Bruh they're literally trying to remove the graveyard from the game. Abandon hope now. Something like 1/5 of all cards ever printed that exile a creature (not just blink it) are in standard right now.
>>95910921If you narrow it to just creatures or nonland permanents, it's more like 1/3 to 1/2.
>>95910877Thank god I stopped playing this game. I can already see they've walked back chilling the fuck out on turning planeswalker cards into an expensive nightmare that = pay to win outcomes and makes everyone but rich autists miserable.
>>95909591Jesus christ how does it keep getting worse??
>>95910934People have been coping and seething saying that Lockdown is an answer to Cutter, and are steadily accepting the fact that Cutter is just so good that removing it is worse than just playing the fucking thing.
>>95910921It's actually 1/4.
>>95910801>doesn't understand or doesnโt care that white is constantly weakLmao what a retard
>>95909657Bot, shut the fuck up. Nobody bought the FF slop.
>>95910877>>95910878Lets get back on topic then. Your deck is shit and doesn't work. It loses 90% of the time to aggro whether IRL or on Arena. Never ever post again about how you can turn 3 win with nothing to reanimate in the graveyard when aggro already beat you.
>>95909881It is impossible for this post to come from a human being.
>>95910948Are you splitting right now or did you reply to the wrong person?
>>95910939The current pro consensus is actually that 4x main decked High Noon is the meta play. You see it in a lot of non-Izzet/Red lists.
>>95910877>0/0 Robot>RobotNo really though, Construct is just totally unacceptable and there's no way it could be used!
Integrity isn't important. Just spam new creature types every set for no reason!
>>95910225>OPT ISN'T A PROBLEMWell well well what have we here?
>>95910721Giant growth is a baseline of +3 damage for 1 mana, multiplied by double strike / power doublers.
Monstrous rage is a baseline of +3 damage +1 additional damage per turn + trample evasion to make sure it connects and rams through even more damage, for 1 mana, multiplied by double strike / power doublers.
Just slapping a monstrous rage on a creature on turn 2 means that by turn 5 it can deal 6 damage instead of 3
>>95910952>4x main decked High Noon is the meta play.Don't forget your maindeck Authority of the Consuls, too!
The.
Absolute.
Fucking.
State.
>>95910961>>95910962Remember when White used to be an aggro color?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
>>95910658Thank christ I don't pay any attention to that planesloppa.
The best sign of a broken meta is when it consists only of two decks, the big bad deck and the one deck that counters the big bad deck.
>RDW vs. 4x maindeck High Noon and Authority of the Consuls
Standard is flourishing.
>>95910877If Paradoxial Outcome wasn't getting restricted before it certainly will be now
>>95910962aaaand then you get a game like this:
>opp: heartfire>me: authority>opp: manifold +1, attack -4 to 17>me: high noon>opp: monstrous rage, pump with rockface, attack -15 to 2now what
what card are you going to play
its turn 3, are you going to lockdown your own two enchantments and leave yourself dead to 30+ draws in their deck?
>>95910655This is what JotC turned the game into. They noticed players had invented a format they hadn't capitalized on, so they started pushing cumandurr products so they directly make money from that group. When people bought them (like me) because they were basically just reprint sets with new art, KotK got the wrong idea and started believing everyone was just playing EDH (which was NOT the case), they decided to just go ahead and turn the entire fucking game into EDH instead of just printing beloved cards in standard sets (sorry goyim, have to make room for the dump truck full of garbage in your latest set). Honestly when a cool card like Underworld Dreams gets a reprint in standard it seems like they fucked up and someone accidentally slipped it in.
>>95910877You can easily get to its emblem the turn it lands with shit like Oni-Cult Anvil. Giving it a tutor is really just not acceptable.
This shit is retarded. Also, why the fuck is it colorless? Tezz is UB or at minimum U.
>>95910986Darksteel body removed his affinity for colored mana
>>95910984>I did. u mad?Gacha gamer saying other people are mad at him spending racks to buy waifus, when they're actually just revolted at such pathetic bevhaior, energy.
>>95910706You can't gaslight me. I already hate you with every fiber of my being.
>>95910994Tcgs are the original gachas. You can be a single socialist all you want but you have to get supply somewhere.
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>>95910877I'm going to play it in my deck
but my deck looks like this
actually not even sure about that, 4 starting loyalty at 3 mana and totally unable to protect itself feels bad man, I guess if you have sylex out you can protect it kind of
>>95911001>You can be a single socialist all you want but you have to get supply somewhere.Yeah.
The landfill for free lmao.
>>95910765Still too powerful. No non-protective counterspell should exist. The very concept of just saying "no" to your opponent playing a card is fucking retarded and always was and the overwhelming majority players think this and always have. That's why blue permission decks have always been so hated. They lock the game down for no reason other than the faggot playing says so and nobody can stop the queer. Honestly, aggro is a partial answer to this bullshit, but blue, as always, just plays that shit too.
Shut up, bot, and stop ruining my game.
>>95911013So thats where the Aetherdrift palette went
>>95910775Notice the color? I want to find who this blue asshole is that keeps dictating terms to JotC so I can kill them.
>>95910801You don't know how to play this game, do you? Have you ever actually played it?
>>95911036You didn't pick one.
>>95910908>A 3 colorless planeshitter that enters with 4 loyalty counters and has 4 busted abilities is "unplayable"Hey, since you work for Hasbara, how do I sign up? Do I have to cut my dick off to apply, or do I get a grace period to let me transition at my own pace?
>>95911051Dies to red thoughover
>>95911051oko was a 3 mana planeswalker that entered with SIX loyalty and actually did something to affect board state when he stuck around
this is basically a colorless trinket mage except 0/1 instead of 2/2
all he's going to do is come down and -3 to tutor out an enigma jewel or whatever, then immediately die to anything your opponent does
you need to play 2 more artifacts AND have him live just to tutor out a second... 1 mana artifact
and then he dies
We already have brightglass gearhulk IN STANDARD
which gets 2 artifacts on the spot
>>95910941It's hard to calculate because there are literally hundreds to weed through, but yeah, it's fucking high. KotK are literally trying to turn all permanents other than planeshitters into sorceries and delete the battlefield and graveyard from the game. Mark my words, this fucking game will be Hearthstone mechanics (no graveyard, almost impossible to have a permanent) with planeshitters in the command zone by next year.
>>95911051Goes great with Cori-Steel Cutter!
>>95910895>>95910957The only difference I can deduce between constructs and robots are that one of them is brought to life through magical energy and the other is presumably powered by electricity and uses the Magic equivalent of circuit boards.
>>95910961LAWD THIS CHILE.
Do you have any fucking clue how many times they've printed this fucking card and it's been draft chaff shit?
https://scryfall.com/search?q=t%3Ainstant+cmc%3C3+c%21r+o%3Atrample+not%3Areprint&unique=cards&as=grid&order=released
The problem isn't one card. The problem is a suite of bad decisions on JotC's part. Fuck they even recently changed god damned combat to make it favor the attacker EVEN MORE.
Prowess was a mistake
Turbopowercreep was a mistake
Handing the meta over to jeskai aggro for THE PAST GOD DAMNED DECADE was a mistake
But because all the shills are wailing about Monstrous Rage - you watch, KotK will ban it and it will change NOTHING. Because it's not Cori, it's not Manifold or any of the actually cancerous shit killing the meta. A god damned combat trick isn't breaking the meta and anyone that thinks this isn't even stupid. We're WAY past allowing for stupidity plausible deniability in this late stage of internet death. Everyone pushing this shit is a bot and a shill.
>>95911101I think if Giant Growth also gave a +1/+1 counter and permanent trample it would have been a problem in many older formats.
>>95911101Calm down, sperg.
>>95910968Lord them was the ol' days. I recently played a white weenie deck and realized it was pretty aggro and it occurred to me this USED to be a deck archetype.
>>95911101>Built to Smash is the only one that gives three power at one mana>only gives trample to artifacts>no permanent buff
>>95910984I'm not watching your jewtube channel.
Honestly?
With Steel Cutter requiring a spell to produce a body, Rage is often times a dead card alongside Cutter since you don't have targets until the Monk comes out.
In other words, Cutter is really pressuring to power creep Rage out of the format.
>>95911101What part of "deals 1 extra damage per turn" didn't you get
if you get off 4 attacks, then:
>dreadmaw's ire is 2 damage + evasion>rush of adrenaline is 2 damage + evasion>rouse the mob is 2 damage + evasion>barge in is 2 damage + evasion>monstrous rage is --->6<---- damage + evasionNotice the outlier here? Yeah lightning strike is a baseline playable card in standard and half as good as lightning bolt. Now what if they printed:
>lightning sling {1R}>instant (U)>lightning sling deals 3 damage to any target>create a goblin fireslinger creature tokenThat's what monstrous rage does as its BASELINE
Before it blows out a blocker, before it gets double strike and heartfire death trigger
>>95911101>https://scryfall.com/search?q=t%3Ainstant+cmc%3C3+c%21r+o%3Atrample+not%3Areprint&unique=cards&as=grid&order=released>Only one card gives +3/+X and trample>Only works on an artifact creature>The trample doesn't remain after the turn endsDreadmaw's Ire is perfectly fine, not just because 2 is smaller than 3, but because the trample isn't permanent. While I also agree that:
>The problem isn't one card. The problem is a suite of bad decisions on JotC's part.>Prowess was a mistake>Turbopowercreep was a mistakeLet's not pretend that Monstrous Rage isn't jumping the shark just because a bunch of other cards are similarly stupid.
>>95911149>Let's not pretend that Monstrous Rage isn't jumping the shark just because a bunch of other cards are similarly stupid.Monstrous Rage is absolutely jumping the shark and so are all those other cards.
All of them deserve bans. No exceptions. None of them are excuses for the other ones. All of them are terrible.
>>95911064>The only difference I can deduce between constructs and robots are that one of them is brought to life through magical energy and the other is presumably powered by electricity and uses the Magic equivalent of circuit boards.Okay but Magic uses Magic, not circuit boards
It's literally called Magic. The game is called Magic: The Gathering not Circuit Boards: The Gathering.
So there should not be Robots. There should be Constructs.
>>95911167>All of them deserve bans. No exceptions.In an ideal world, obviously. In WotC's world, how else would standard flourish?
>>95911127I dont have one
>>95911184>In WotC's world, how else would standard flourish?... FIN having a presence at all, maybe?
You know there's going to be bans now, because they have a set to promote.
>>95911197Their Japanese branch already did that. They 100% know the current standard cant possibly make FF have any impact
Is Hermit Druid actually stronger than Balustrade Spy?
They'll never unban it so I guess we'll never find out.
>>95911101>"everyone but me is a botshill" social media buzzword tantrumwhere have I seen this before?
>>95911216Hermid Druid allows you to cheat its constraints by running nonbasics. Spy you have to have no lands or do some Mana Severance shenanigans.
>>95911036Yeah. Why do you care about white being good when you only care about how powerful the deck you're playing is? Just play a different color.
>>95911061So another round of kikes of the cost program a bot to claim that a busted card in a new set is "weak actually"? Get a new tack. This shit is boring. You're losing me.
>>95911051The only relevant decks that are spamming artifacts are Cutter (which won't run this) or Synthesizer (which has already won if you're spamming artifacts), so the passive isn't great.
His +0 is already on Tyvar and Tyvar does nothing with it. Can't imagine being colorless does anything different.
The -3 is interesting but I'm not sure what you're searching with it in Standard. Ghost Vacuum? Enigma Jewel? Haywire Mite?
Ults don't matter because if you're in a position where you can ult you've already won.
>>95911064>>95911175Nosewater has been trying to convert MTG to a sci-fi setting for years.
>>95911108>>95911118>>95911139>>95911149>>95911221If a +1/+1 counter and trample are what is breaking the meta, then why isn't green the top color right now?
Tick tock, shillbots.
>>95911139The outlier is a fucking double strike creature, you disingenuous hack. Yet another bad idea that JotC implemented just as fast as they heard about the dumbass idea from a dumbass player.
>>95911278There's currently no 1-mana green instant that gives both +3 and trample, nor are there 1/2 mana green creatures with built-in scaling off the same instant and/or haste.
>>95911199HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA It's fucking god damned Homolands all over again. They literally have to FORCE people to use these shitty UB cards.
Don't bother making new mistakes! Just gravedig the old ones, then lie about being the most profitable company in human history!
>>95911283Excuse me show me a single other combat trick that deals 3 damage up front + second useful effect like evasion and then another +1 damage per turn or more
Ill wait
what card other than monstrous rage can convert 1 mana into 6+ damage
>>95911287>nor are there 1/2 mana green creatures with built-in scaling off the same instant and/or hasteOh wow so I guess you can partly admit obvious reality. Congratulations! That must've been very difficult for you. Now here's the real question - are you ready? If they ban Monstrous Rage, will the perma-RDW-izzet fuckery end or will they just slot in another combat trick?
rate my idea for card to make green relevant
Rage Monster {G}
Enchantment Creature - Beast
Trample
3/1
>>95911302Yes, we fucking get it, Mark, you plan on banning Monstrous Rage so the little niggershitters can still fuck up the game with aggro bullshit and you can claim you "did something". Be quiet now.
>>95911305No haste or prowess. DOA.
>>95911303I don't think anyone sane is saying to only ban Monstrous Rage and that that alone would fully fix the format.
>>95911311No, that's exactly what you fuckers have been spamming for weeks. Thank you for letting us know what you, the design team, plan on banning which will in no way fix the problem, but will (in your estrogen-spammed brain) make you believe you can tell people you "did something" (you didn't do shit).
>>95911293Actually, they have a pretty good idea. Just remove DSK, BLB, LCI and whatever mistake Aetherdrift did with stockup. FFF sounds like a low power standard environment where you dont just keel over by turn 3. Whats funny about that one is that they'll do ANYTHING but ban the cards.
>>95911305Technically we already have that.
>12 damage and a manifested card on turn 2Maybe this can be the mouse replacement?
Bruhs this is really fucking annoying. How do you search for a creature type on scryfall WITH NO OTHER CREATURE TYPES. Like if I just want to search for "t:cat" without all the fucking furfag wizards and soldiers and clerics. Currently I have to one by one exclude every single creature type that shows up. There has to be a better way to do this.
>>95911348Did a little bit of tweaking to the Enbiggen search string and this seemed to work:
t:creature -kw:changeling t:cat -t:token (t:/([^\/]+[\s]+(?!\/)){2,}/ -t:/([^\/]+[\s]+(?!\/)){3,}/) game:paper
>>95911365I'm not even going to pretend to know what all that shit is, but it appears to work. I would actually like the tokens included, but that doesn't seem to work and I can just look them up separately so no big deal. Thanks.
>t2 invasion of ergamon discard omniscience
>t3 abuelos awakening, run out my hand
>run out of action empty handed with omniscience and fail to combo off but have a 2nd omniscience + marang and bounced 2 permanents of opponent to stay alive
>.....
>.......
>get to untap with marang alive
>swing into invasion of ergamon, discard the land I drew, tutor invasion of arcavios out of my library and loop revelation
pretty sure my opponent had a go for the throat still in hand
its like people don't even realize you can attack battles
>>95911385That's because battles aren't real cards and nobody gives a shit about them.
You guys think the FF Bundles are worth it? Or should I just go to a Draft or two?
>>95911384>I'm not even going to pretend to know what all that shit isLong story short, the muddled garbage means you only want cards with 2 card, super and/or subtypes but not more than 3. It technically doesn't work with enchantment/artifact creatures or legendary creatures so you're missing out on pic related (there are no legendary cats with only one creature type). I could add stuff like that to the search string, but it would probably double in size. If you really want them, just add "t:[card type]" to the string and change 2 and 3 to 3 and 4 respectively.
>>95911348You could also try -art:leonin to include two typed cats.
>>95911406Unless you have an attachment to the IP and characters, just draft. The markup isnt worth it.
>>95911426I've got an attachment to like, XIV but I feel like my odds of getting a Y'shtola or Emet are tiny.
Seems like it'd be fun to crack cards, and I'm a little scared prices will all soar beyond what I can afford for singles... but yeah, the cost is absurd.
It's $130 AUD for a Bundle at the cheapest spot I can find, versus ~$45 for a Draft + Participation pack.
>>95911432If you like them and want cards of them, they're in the commander deck; if you want the main set ones just buy singles.
>>95911348>>95911424Just tested it, and it pretty much gives you everything you want, including tokens, though you'll probably want to exclude Final Fantasy since it's got the catgirls and weird shit like "Gaelicat".
>>95911424The art tags don't tend to be complete.
>>95911436Yeah, I managed to grab the Commander deck.
Just a fan of the showcase versions of pretty much every XIV character and the single market in Australia sucks dick.
I'll figure it out, thanks. Probably just go to a couple drafts to try and tide over the pack cracking urge and get some games in.
>>95911446If it's any consolation, the singles market isn't great anywhere for the borderless ones. I'm waiting for the Y'shtola to drop below like 150.
Emet though is a cool 15 bucks or so I think for the nonfoil. I'd have to go check.
>>95911478Oh yeah, I meant moreso supply versus price.
I'd love the Y'shtola borderless but that's just not happening. Maybe the mainset Y'shtola at least.
Emet, Hydaelyn, and Zodiark are all in my price range for what it's worth. Just need people to fucking sell them.
>>95911199Sounds like a kino take on standard to be honest. Unironically "new format, japan :O"
>>95911496Funnily enough they did "New Format, Japan :OO" before, it was called Frontier. It was around 2015 and was a thinly veiled attempt for Hareriya, one of Japan's biggest LGS, to offload their stock of Tarkir and BFZ, since the top decks of that format were Gideon Allies midrange and Siege Rhino.dec
>>95911216They're different decks. Druid is more analogous to Cephalid Illusionist + Nomad/Shuko than to Balustrade Spy, because it requires you to produce 2 mana then untap with him, and even then you don't have to activate him right away if you need to build up a reserve of stack interaction or shred your opponent's hand. Spy is a more of a build around card - I know zero basics comes at a cost - where you have to bend your entire deck around resolving a 4 drop.
>>95904454Time-Lord? No more other people's IP please...
Was FF so shit it had literally 0 impact in every format? Besides Vivรญ I mean
>>95911860>Was FF so shit it had literally 0 impact in every format? Besides Vivรญ I meanFrom the look of it, all the decks running Vivi are just Cutter decks that are testing out a new card. It doesn't look like Vivi is actually succeeding in doing anything.
Starting Town is legit though.
What should happen for mah bois Kuja and Sephiroth to become competitive?
>>95911860Nothing has any impact untill cori is banned because there're no reason to play anything else.
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>>95911305These three are equivalent to mouse package in terms of how much they snowball the game in your favor. If red ever gets toned down the chickens will be the new menace.
>>95910877>colorless planeswalker ramping up from artifacts playedAbsolutely nothing bad can come out of that, artifacts are harmless as history shown multiple times.
>>95912145>Three shit cards that will never see play over whatever overefficient shit takes over the Cutter disgraceYawn, Next!
>>95910877vintage staple right here
>>95910981they're either banning lurrus or restricting stock up, there's no in-between, restricting PO would just make people go back to esper lurrus and hardly anything would change
>>95910877This is such a fucking blatant "Let's design a card intentionally to break formats so people buy it." design holy fuck.
>>95910877>>95910878So... Soon we will hate robots and Tezzeret will become a new Karn cancer? Also why make him Colorless? UB deserved it...
>>95912172>restricting stock upI still can't believe they thought mini Dig Through Time (no delving required) was a good idea. I saw that card in spoilers right as I was getting back into the game and I just thought to myself "Man, standard's gone through a lot of powercreep." Hadn't even learned about Monstrous Rage at that point.
>>95910877>>95910878>Psst, hey Mark? Want to make this fuckhead colorless just so on the off chance he's busted as shit, literally every single fucking deck can run him with no problem?>GENIUS!
>>95912237I will never EVER hate robots.
>>95912260That's a Construct, anon.
>>95911860Opera Song, Cecil, Cloud are all unironically used.
>>95911860Joshua and Lightning see fringe olay in Energy decks
>>95910877>3 colorless>when artifact etb put a loyalty counter>you get an emblemthat's not FIRE, that's straight up the surface of the sun
>hey lets make a 3c colorless PW that gets a loyalty when you play the cards you're supposed to play with him and let's give you an emblem>also let him search an artifact>wow freaking stroke me genius wowowowSo, i can just play 0 cost artifacts and jerk off?
>>95912297>So, i can just play 0 cost artifacts and jerk off?No.
You can play 0 cost artifacts... and cum.
Are they making card bans on Arena? What happens if card gets banned, do I get wildcards for each copy I have or what?
>>95910918I mean at this point she is carrying the entire MtG art direction.
>>95912309Now that's a STROKE of genius
I will be geniusing all over the table
>>95911531Why do they have to try so hard to offload product if it's so popular?
>>95910877WHY IS HE COLOURLESS?
>>95912311What happens if card gets banned, do I get wildcards for each copy I have or what?
Exactly that. A Wildcard for each copy of the card rarity that's banned.
>>95912344>Exactly that. A Wildcard for each copy of the card rarity that's banned.Coddling babies. They should get nothing.
>>95912343UB was not good for him considering Bolas is now gay. He is a chad at the end of day.
>>95912237Honestly, he doesn't seem that scary to me. He gets big easily and can make your artifact creatures big pretty quickly, but there aren't too many applications for that in standard, at least after rotation. He could get bad if they reprint Ornithopter, Memnite or, God forbid, Phyrexian Walker. In pioneer and modern, he just seems like a more versatile and pushed version of Ensoul Artifact that can fetch up Urza's Saga and utility pieces. That could make affinity obnoxious, but at 3 mana I doubt it. He'll probably be obnoxious in legacy and beyond though.
The only thing that could be scary about him is the repeatable untap loyalty ability. Considering how powerful these activated abilities are getting, this could easily stir up something nasty, especially when you can run him in any deck.
>>95912260I think he's speaking more to the fact that robots might end up dominating half of all formats because of T3zzeret
>>95911877Well well well, looks like the kikes have a dilemma, huh? 1: they are almost incapable of admitting they were wrong, which makes them hesitant to fix anything they break 2: the meta is CLEARLY extremely fucked, maybe worse than any other time in the game's history (Alpha??) but 3: if they ban ANY of the problem cards like cori, that would fix the meta issue, but the only "people" still playing the game would throw a tantrum because they can't play their coinflip deck anymore and 4: right now they're in damage control mode to try to make FF look good despite claiming it's the highest selling set of all time, bizarrely nobody is using any of the cards from it. WEIRD HOW EVERYONE BOUGHT THE SET BUT NOBODY USED THE CARDS HMMMMM. ANYTHING JotC does with this set is an admission of failure without openly declaring failure.
>>95912347Nicol Bolas is gay now? What?
>>95912365>maybe worse than any other time in the game's historThe only other era this fucked that comes to mind are Oko (69% meta share (nice)) or Lin Sivvi (Unknown meta share 'cause ye olde but estimated at literally 100%)
>>95912165They know what they're doing. This will be a broken set to compensate for the lame sets. Then they'll print more lame sets. Then another broken set. KotK is literally incapable of just making a good fucking set anymore.
>>95912226Yep. JotC has learned NOTHING. Game will be shuttered by next year.
>>95912245Holy fuck this is basically strictly better than Divination. I didn't pay any attention to that godawful aetherpiss.
>>95912365Everyone bought sets to flip em, obviously. And those who do not flip product, just bought them for being FF. They ain't playing the game.
>>95912311>Playing a game that blatantly cheats
>>95912339>BF>popularIt was one of the biggest dissappointments in the past 10 years. Powered down first set, shitty tangolands, and a 2nd set that was so stupid it broke Modern.
tbqh if i went to locals and played against the same decks i face in arena (which i probably will) i dont think i will even go to locals again
>>95912415I will never buy cards or give this trashy company money.
>>95911302Combat tricks have been around since before you were born, zoom-zoom and not one of them has ever broken the game. Not a single one. No, not even the example you want to list. It was ALWAYS a creature or planeswalker in that deck that broke the game. The situation right now is the same as it ever was.
Again, all this "ban monstrous rage!" is clearly just astroturf bot horseshit coming from JotC themselves so when they do it next month they can claim they "did something", knowing full well they have no intention of deleting the current meta deck and that players will just slot another combat trick in its place because a fucking combat trick was never the problem. I'm not repeating myself again, but I WILL be screenshotting these posts and posting them WHEN JotC do what they clearly have planned.
>>95912114Correct. And it's not getting banned.
>>95912411So these jews and troons expect us to believe that people that literally don't play the game bought more MTG cards in history than the most popular set that players actually played. And nobody is using the cards. At all. And for some reason they're going for Alpha prices. Uh-huh. Nothing unbelievable about any of this.
I mean unless you remember that lying to shareholders is basically SOP at this point for entertainment corpos.
>>95912452That's good, but what's the point of playing a game that forces you to lose for free? Do you not value your time?
>>95912487You obviously dont know FFags, especially XIVtroons
>FF only had annecdotal relevance only slapping as meme cards like Cloud or Joshua
>Everyone bought the set just to get some profit of it
And this is what they call a success?
>>95912429Well you're in luck because at a local game you will be playing a human, not a bot.
>>95912495Game is fun to play and they have to balance it in a bad way. Otherwise people just quit.
>>95912499>A human playing Cutter is better than a bot playing CutterYou know what? I rather the bot...
>>95912497I don't believe it. Literally. They're actually lying. And I was positive of this the moment they claimed it was the highest selling set of all time. NO IT FUCKING ISN'T. Lying about sales is normal now in the entertainment industry.
>>95912518Anon, youre talking about the same community who would shell put $300 for an MMO emote and threw a tantrum when they "ran out" of a digital asset. Its unbelievable but its true.
>>95910877>>95910878Sadly it is shit. If -3 put it in the battlefield it would be good. If ultimate was good it would be really good.
>ROBOTpuke
>>95911064nah, they are just retard.
>>95912506>Game is fun to play50% forced losses where your agency is totally irrelevant is not fun.
>they have to balance itThey don't balance the game at all. This IS what they consider "balancing".
>Otherwise people just quit.Take a wild guess what people have done...see:
>>95910629
>>95912516No you don't. The bot will kill you with an intro deck. At least the player can't manipulate your draws and generate whatever cards they want in their hand as needed.
>>95912532And you're talking about the same "community" that consistently lies about their failing profits to ease shareholder sentiment while they bankrupt the company to pay out to the greedy cunts. I'm not repeating myself again. This is total normal behavior for companies nowadays. There is a 0% chance Hasbara isn't doing it too when literally every single other corpo pile of shit in the country already is.
>>95912532Btw IS it believable? Or did "corpo" make that up too? Never believe anything a corporation says. ALL entertainment companies are now operated by mossad and the CIA under Operation Mockingbird as state propaganda outlets.
>>95912569>>95912577Here
Go to /xivg/.
>>>/vg/528132174Go browse the thread then tell me of these people arent the type to throw their weight around in cash because of anime waifu tax. Gachatards operate on the same axis as well, or are you going to tell me gacha whales that play hoyoslop dont count. Weebs are a thing and they shell out for anime shit. This was established long before this game went into thr shitter.
>>95912605>Go browse the dead internet to be told what to believe by bots and corporation!Literally no. We're done with this dead internet bullshit now.
>>95912625Your internet solipsism has blinded you from the fact that weebs will buy anime shit. Theres no use arguing with you because you'll just brush it off as some sort of conspiracy. Believe what you want to believe, weebs will just continue to buy their waifu cards at $500. When spudroman and avatar eventually fall below expectations, you'll see what I mean.
I paid 80 bucks for my wife, Lightning. I'm going to enjoy the shit out of EDH with her as my commander
>>95912668Then leave faggot, you have a place specifically for other scum subhumans like you were you can talk about the shit fake format.
>>95912688I play 60 cards on arena
>>95912706Wait for Spiderman
>>95912706Looks like it actually went down for actual magic sets and only spike for UB slop
>>95912722Universes Within.
>>95912768LOL Parker Peter the Arachnid Male.
That's your "Universes Within" brother.
>>95912773There won't be Peter Parker in UW.
>>95912605Thank god my waifu for this set is cheap as fuck
>>95912779No that's why is not "Peter Parker" but "Parker Peter" anon and that's the best you are getting as "Universes Within Spiderman"
>>95912806and is unplayable too, unless you play cummander lol
>>95912821yeah, she sucks bad even in commander
Serra Angel sucks too i still collect the cards
>>95912815Nah. Post your face when it's Borborygmos.
If i copy a copy spell and then cast another copy spell, do i get 4x copies on the next spell?
>>95909617>>95909605You guys are aware these aren't the real names of the cards and are just what the auto TL is giving you right
Hey remember when a card draw cantrip wasn't a combat trick? Those were the good old days.
>still banned in modern lol
>>95912688Such triggered snowflakes, lmao, keep crying, princess
