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>>Previous Thread:
>>95932427

>>95937808 (OP)
I have a thread question.
Which of the oldest models hold up best today?

>>95937813
Juan Diaz daemonettes and daemon prince are pretty good

>>95937834
The Horrors from the same era are the best daemons GW has ever put out. Yes better than the daemonettes. Also the entire Kabalite faction in Deldar continues to look better than most ranges today.

For those of you who still actually homebrew fill this out

>>95937871
>Specifically Space Marines
Discarded

What are the opinions on which fancy ravener heads to keep and which to replace with the normie ones if I'm doing an Adapted Ravener squad? I think the antler & fin ones look straight up retarded unfortunately I think I'm stuck with the Zoidberg fin because it feels like a really nice way of making it clear to my opponent who the Ravener Prime is

>>95937813
this model is eternal

>>95937888
eternally ugly

>>95937882
You don't have a xenos homebrew

>>95937761
Since I painted some sisters, I have attempted a deathwing knight and it was super easy, I should go back and re-try sisters. I think I just primed the deathwing knight wraithbone, drybrushed it white, then washed it with agrax. The tricky part is straight brown wash is too strong and I need to dilute it some amount, and that's tricky to get the balance.

>>95937871
I have a guard regiment homebrew so I probably won't be able to fill in much.
>Investigated by the inquisition
>Rogue Trader/Inquisitor Deus Ex Machina
That's about it.

>>95937902
I guess Homebrew Dynasties don't count.

>>95937896
but enough about you

>>95937885
You can convey a ravener prime effectively with a simple pattern on its carapace

depending on how large the models are and whether you have the bit, you could also use the trygon prime rattle snake on his tail

another trick for majesty is spare tentacles from a hive guard kit slithering out of his wrists or palms in an menacing display, increasing the frontal presence laterally

>>95937888
he isn't ugly but there are better farseer models out there

>>95937896
You have no taste and no test

>>95937924
I should also add that they're a fleet based regiment because I can't be arsed to homebrew a whole planet and its history so I'll count
>Fleet so large it makes the space wolves feel inadequate
If you count jury rigging weapons or illegally modifying as making their own tech then.
>Somehow makes their own technology, gets away with it

Lost in the warp time-skip sounds interesting, but I'm not sure how I can implement such a thing into a guard regiment's fluff properly.

I am the Lex

Since we're talking homebrew stuff.

I was thinking my terminator heavy, dark angels successor chapter would be all about these topics:
-Spacefaring chapter.
-Originally tasked to search out lost dark angels fleet ships/other ships to find and restore old legion relics.
-Lose too many to this task, and reassess a new task of finding out what happened to their lost companies.
-Find the relics their companies were lost trying to find.
-Find that the dark angels has dark secrets, attempting to find the old tomes that shed light on these forbidden secrets.

And that's where I'm at.

>>95937871
Where's the one for chaos warbands?

>>95937871
Not even one. (maybe the codex i do not know but they are not supposed to be against it) "Secret" privat army of a high lord (deathwatch ruleset).

>>95937871
What do I get

>>95937871
We need a version of this for every faction.
What bingo slots should the guard have?

>>95937972
Looks like male Sisters armor

>>95938008
Mutant divergent.
Cats.
Tank making world.
Clone armies.
Kreig Kampf.
Death World, but deadlier than...
Green Army Men
No Women Allowed

>>95938018
I think that might be part of it, and army of Judge Dredds running around enforcing the law.

>>95938024
>No Women Allowed
ww2 army in space, söyboy. don't @ me about female soviet sniper memes

>>95937871
>Rogue Trader
>Always Crusading
My dudes™ were a little cringe. I came up with a fleet bound chapter that was always pushing out to conquer and rediscover lost humans. They were partnered with a rogue trader who helped save the chapter from extinction by letting them recruit and re-arm on his worlds. From then on the chapter and rogue trader would explore in roughly the same direction, the chapter helping the rogue trader if he ran into xenos or militant humans, and the rogue trader providing intel to the chapter and helping them maintain their supply routes through his connections.

>>95937902
Maybe you don't

>>95938024
The bingo card is 25 slots unless my math is off, but your stuff is a good start.

I personally think that a lot of the bingo card stuff is just stuff one thinks is cool or a possibility in the 40k universe so they naturally get overused pretty quickly.

I guess I'll shoot some:
>no abhumans allowed
>based on a historical army or historical concept
>drab grey, brown, green, or all three
>no division between the armored companies and infantry companies
>no homeworld is fleet based
>made up of hivegangers or convicts

>>95937885
gonna try kitbash a more traditional carapace fin for the leader, doubt it will be hard

>>95937956
This paintjob is so nice, damn

>>95937992
Another investigation and more relics.

>>95938024
felinids (double marks if they are literal anime catgirls)

>>95937871
I'm using my 30k Marines, so they're loaded with Crusade era shit.

I am hoping votan will be proper dwarfy.

Help me come up with a paint scheme for Necrons. I want them to stand out a little more than the default dark metallic skeletons without becoming fisher price toys. The only thing I'm certain I want to do right now is have the energy bits be an icy blue kind of color.

>>95938063
>>no abhumans allowed
>>based on a historical army or historical concept
>>drab grey, brown, green, or all three
>>no division between the armored companies and infantry companies
>>no homeworld is fleet based
>>made up of hivegangers or convicts
these are just lame. none of them hit like the marine ones. the only one that I'd give you because its egregious and something I've truly seen in the IG community is the abhuman one.

>>95938008
genestealer one is just one big square that says "DOES NOT IMMINENTLY DIE CONSUMED BY TYRANIDS"

>>95938051
This mon-keigh women look like she enjoyed it

What’s the best faction for a racist? I play DG and Tau right now but I want to start a new army.

>>95938008
admech bingo is a single big square titled "Uses Xenos Tech"

>>95938106
Sisters of Battle

>>95937871
what other options for a homebrew are there other than these?

Did death guard even have any narrative impact in 8th

>>95938119
that edition where they attacked Ultramar?

>>95938024
>>95938042
>>95938063
Based on a historical army or historical concept should be in the centre.
I think I'll add some more:
>borrows traits from canon guard regiments
>misfits and tough to discipline (unless that counts as convicts and hive gangers)
>excessive amount of artillery and armored vehicles
>investigated by the inquisition
>rogue trader/inquisitor deus ex machina
>regiment has a traitor regiment counterpart

Kind of hard for me to think up guard regiment homebrew cliches given that it is the marines that hog the spotlight when it comes to overused homebrewing cliches to be honest.

First time making berets pls no bully

>>95938130
Yeah what happened to it in the end?

>>95938137
Somehow my first thought was the Scottish Tam hat instead.
But the beret is coming along well so far. Maybe needs fingerprint markings trimmed off and then it will be good.

>>95938143
what do you think

>>95938104
They usually do, in their own way

>>95938100
The opposite of icy blue is a coppery-orange color. It also by a nice coincidence, means that verdigris looks really good on copper
now granted despite being all metallic I've never seen anyone do rust or verdigris on necrons, dunno if there's a lore reason for that, but you could make their metallic skeleton be copper (game's workshop's Brass Scorpion is a very bright copper) and then use ice-blue for their glowing eyes and glowing weapons. Maybe even ice-blue shoulderpads if you're one of the people that do non-metallic necron shoulder pads.

The other two colors, the purple and pastel yellow, are just 90-degrees on the color wheel from ice-blue/copper, use them if you want to or don't, up to you

>>95938101
>these are just lame. none of them hit like the marine ones. the only one that I'd give you because its egregious and something I've truly seen in the IG community is the abhuman one.
I get ya anon.
The guard can be pretty boring probably because they aren't hyped up as well as the marines are and the marines have the monopoly when it comes to homebrewers due to being the posterboys of Warhammer 40k.

>>95938119
Mortarian got his ass kicked. The Great Unclean one character without a model got usurped by the one that does. Typhus came out on top because he listened to Nurgle and rejoined the war against the other gods while Mortarian ruined everything.

>>95938147

Cheers fren, leaving it to set awhile now and I'll clean it up and add a badge.

The Scottish Tam on a squad of Organs is a neat idea.

>>95938106
Deathwatch or Black Templars

>>95938136
half the guard regiments are based on historical concepts. and excessive artillery is just an artillery company and excessive armoured vehicles is just a tank company. you don't know cliches so you're reaching for things. you don't see on the homebrew marine bingo "takes a lot of bikes."

>>95938171
>you don't know cliches so you're reaching for things
The thing is I probably should because I do have a homebrew guard regiment now.
>you don't see on the homebrew marine bingo "takes a lot of bikes."
I've been stumped here. Might be a tard moment. Is the reason because the White Scars exist?

>>95937871
In no particular order:

Inquisitorial investigation for getting bootfucked by a daemon invasion shortly before the fall of cadia when they attempted a full chapter strength drop and it turned out to be a trap.

Originally founded after an inquisitor got involved in an intra chapter dispute and proposed a novel solution.

Make their own tech: kind of a grey area. They repurpose a lot of old equipment and have reverse engineered some components for replacement and improvement.

Codex deviants: Technically no armory or Apothecarion, instead the 8th company is double normal strength and handles it all. Every techmarine and apothecary is from the 8th and the company captain is an apothecary/techmarine combo.

They have a dreadnought who’s roughly 5000 years old.

They tend to ignore Xenos that aren’t actively fucking with Imperial authority if possible. They can’t be everywhere and a measure of “live and let die” is used. Some regions of space outside of the sector are quarantined to ensure no one starts encroaching on Xenos space and gets them riled up unnecessarily.

>>95938051
All right man. Let's get you weighing in on this. What are the faction cliches for Dark Eldar homebrews for kabals, wych cults, and homunculus covens?

>>95938160
Copper with some kind of verdigris effect sounds really cool. I'll have to test and see if I can make it either very subtle and streaky or find a way to get some texture on it if it's going to be more overt. That's a good recommendation, thanks.

>>95937871
The inquisition has investigated even the ultramarines... They have eyes on everyone

I only ever see sisters painted black, red, or white
please post neat sisters of battle paint schemes

>>95938164
>The Scottish Tam on a squad of Organs is a neat idea.
Image source: https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/1120858-Highland%20Ogryns.html

I think the little detail of the ogryns using sci-fi lewis guns is neat.
Anvil Industry made some ogres and they have sci-fi lewis guns too. So maybe if you can get a 3D printing source you can try it.

>wanted to finally build this ancient Knight kid that I had lying around (Castellan)
>Get really into it
>Even get some magnets going for if I want the other weapons like the harpoon
>Missing exactly half of one of the connectors that attaches the weapons to the arms so I'm -1 arm
>Nothing sells it
Fuck. I'm not gonna make it for the end of june.

>>95938231
Wolf Sisters?

>>95938238

Nice one, thanks

>>95938224
Army Painter verdigris has a little tiny bit of texture beads in it if you're looking for that. Dirty Down Verdigris is a little too stain-y, if you don't use a thick coat of it, all it's going to do is stain the copper a dark, dark blue.
I used Army Painter Verdigris, heavily watered down to a wash consistency, and then dabbed it into some recesses or on top of rivets. I liked how it came out.

Post your necrons when they're painted, I hope I get to see it.

>>95938242
>Fuck. I'm not gonna make it for the end of june.
Me neither.
I have a 3D printed tankette I decided to use.
I decided on a 3D printed vehicle because technically I can always go back, print another tank or get a 3D printing service to do it and then try again and see my vehicle painting skill improvement, with the same vehicle that technically won't go OOP if I always have the STL files. Unless James sends a hitman after me.

Anyways how long does rust's black primer take to be safe to airbrush over?

>spill my Ultramarine Blue
>lose basically the whole bottle
>go to buy another one the next day
>the lid opened a little on the car on the way home and leaked
James sensed I’m almost done with my Marines and has been sending ninja’s to stop me….

>>95938264
Seems like the spilled shade paint goblin is after you with a vengeance.

Been hunting for 6th ed space marine codex, anyone have a pdf hanging around?

>>95938262
hmm on second thought the verdigris is really hard to see on this, sorry

>>95937972
Wish we had a game about killing rioters.
Running over rioters with a Repressor would be cool.

Finished the DG kill team

>Necrons near the top of the list of tournament win rates and Dark Eldar were near 50% a few weeks ago
>Now Necrons are sub-50% and Dark Eldar are 36%
Wha' happun?

>>95938288

>>95938320
Nah, not the same.

>>95938317
1 week variance

>>95938262
>>95938292
I think bronze is such a beautiful color for death guard but it doesn't "pop" as much as copper for me

>>95938292
oustanding job highlighting the armor

>>95938008
Orks is four squares; deyz all checked
>GREEN
>CHOPPY
>SHOOTY
>'ARD

>>95938197
>I've been stumped here. Might be a tard moment. Is the reason because the White Scars exist?
no its just a weak thing to put down

>>95938340
>oustanding job highlighting the armor
if you're talking about the white "highlights" on armor - that's just light reflecting from the semi gloss varnish that came out a bit too glossy lol

>>95938366
I mean stuff like this, these specular lighting bits like on the feet. this isn't just gloss varnish reflections, right?

>>95938377
NTA but yes, it is.

>>95938377
that's a gloss varnish reflection, although I do wish I could paint highlights to such a level

>>95938377
>anon discovers why gloss varnish is great for the first time

>>95938381
>>95938391
>>95938403
The white line in the middle of the foot is a light reflection, but the green is obviously painted a lighter color than the surrounding dark olive green. That can't just be gloss varnish (cope?)

>>95938391
Get an airbrush, doing volumetrics on power armor is pretty comfy with that.

>>95938410
ah no, that's an actual highlight
>>95938412
yeah, the armor's airbrushed

>>95938412
>>95938420
I wish I could find a reliably way to turn my paint into airbrush-ready paint, never know how much to thin it by

>>95938450
1:1 usually works for me. I use a 4:1 mixture of thinner and flow improver instead of pure thinner though

>>95938469
Which brand of paints? I know that PA and TTC are going to be thinner out of the pot than whatever GW cooks up

>>95938231

what is the best way to run assault intercessors?
how do I buff these little idiots into the stratosphere so they can punch way above their 75 points?

>>95938477
AK, new formula Vallejo and TTC. It's been ages since I've airbrushed something Citadel but I'd probably go like 1:1,5 with those.

>>95938231
orange and teal

>>95938450
I thin quite a but, around 1:3 paint (gw and vallejo) to thinner, and thinner is vincy v’s recipe of 4:1 thinner to flow improver but I also add a drop of retarder at the end cause I feel like it helps with tip dry

>>95938163
>Replace Kugath with a literal who
That's just retarded

Man warhammer is honestly just really fun to play.

>>95938546
*quite a bit

>>95938551
The miniatures are really nice and very fun to paint, too!

>>95938481
nice, ty

>>95938317
Dark eldar have about 6 players so their winrate can be massively skewed by random variation and whether Skari plays or not

>>95938491
>>95938546
ty
is there a particular brand of thinner/flow improver you prefer?

Day whatever of convincing friend who bitches about 10th edition to play an earlier edition
>Flaked on 2nd edition game when we were getting to deployment and played 10th instead
>Week later bitches to group again about 10th
>In the most passive aggressive way ask him if he is willing to play 3rd/4th
>Yeah sure
>Say to him not to flake or I'm not going to be happy
>ok
>Get everything ready
>Deploy
>Actually get movement in
>I do my first round of shooting
>... this is boring, can't we play 10th?
THIS
MOTHER
FUCKER

>>95937871
Damn, didn't get many.

>>95938626
This didn't happen because you don't own any models or have any friends

>>95938546
>using pots for airbrushing
what's GW thinking?

>>95938550
He got usurped by Rotigus as Nurgle’s most favored.

>>95938642
GW unironically caters to the people who have just picked up painting for the very first time and don't know any better

>>95938633
Why is this the default response whenever anyone talks about older editions? I can get my models if you want.
I'll fully admit it is a bit of me actually wanting to experience these older editions, to play them and see for myself what they were like after reading the codex and rule books back to front, but the other aspect is that my friend does nothing but bitch and moan about 10th edition and the current state of 40k, but doesn't branch out to other systems or editions. Why?

>>95938662
>Why?
Your friend is a retard.

>>95938662
Ignore the faggot, he'll default to this response every time anyone dares to criticize anything GW

>>95938615
Vallejo just werks
Ive tried making thinner from an online recipe (thats basically just 70/30 water to IPA + a bit of glycerol) but I think it kinda sucked

>>95938642
Obviously I’ve transferred all my citadel paints into dropper bottles, trying to thin out of a pot fucking sucked

>>95938662
I would say paid shill, but this fags do it for free.

>>95938642
You can make some moderately passable arguments for regular acrylics in pots but selling airbrush ready paints in them is just inexcusable.

>>95938550
the palanquin of nurglings would have taken too much space on the sprue

>>95938550
Are we pretending kugath was relevant outside of total war

>>95938744
Are you pretending he wasn't THE named great unclean one of the demons codex?

>>95938412
I kinda like how scuffed drybrushing leaves my models

I love Vallejo paints so much, god bless those Spaniards. Warlord Purple is my favourite, Metal Color is also a joy to use.

Necrons
Marines
Tyranids
Guard

My eventual army choices. Which one to pick?

>>95938820
Marines, good for beginners and you will fund all the actual cool armies.

>>95938766
>demons codex
I’m not gonna pretend this ever held any merit, especially now that they’re being squatted.

>>95938847
I'm hoping for a minis refresh. New idea train to breathe life into the idea.

We have evil elves, orks, bugs, and traitors. I don't see why get rid of one of the trinity forces. The enemy from beyond.

>>95938847
It's such a retarded decision on GW's part, multi-system armies make for great fodder to get people into other systems and purchase other armies. That's how it worked for me
>I play World Eaters
>Get some daemons to run with them (RIP Daemon allying outside of a detachment and my master of blood given to me by someone special)
>While I have daemons, might as well get some Khorne Mortals to run alongside them
>Hey... these fantasy orks look kinda cool
>Oooh I love these skeletons
>Now own 40k, Fantasy and AoS armies
But they are now squatting the daemons from 40k because ?????

Bottom of turn 2 in a world eater mirror.... Oh yeah baby

Any idea where there's a tutorial to do some easy DIY spinefists for my gaunts?

>>95938847
>the demons codex holds no merit regarding a discussion about demons
indefensible position on your end

>>95937871
If your homebrew chapter checks none of these boxes, you are boring as shit.

>>95938936
>actual red butchers
based, proxying them for eightbound or termies?

>>95938950
termies

I'm really tired of the "Demons are being Squatted" rhetoric when they already tried to squat a faction this edition, it got massive negative response and they walked back on doing it already. And that faction has 1/8 the model range and history. And Demons actively got rewritten rules to make them better instead of leaving them with their mediocre release index. Demons have gotten more support and content than Dark Eldar have but faggots here will spam "Dark Eldar refresh is coming".

>>95938987
counterpoint: that faction is a color scheme of primaris marines

Why does it seem like GW has disdain for certain armies and models? You can say "oh because they don't sell", but that is also a problem of them not being supported. Why would anyone start Dark Eldar when their range is never in stock for example?

>>95938987
You don't understand.
They're being shoe-horned into the deity specific chaos marine codexes. They will still be playable, but only barely. Each detachment punishes people severely for having any vestige of a playable 2000pt army. Especially if they weren't mono-god.

This is a moneypot situation. Buy more models or regret buying anything daemon.
>have tzeentch models
>can't play them without thousand sons
>go buy thousand sons to play them

>>95938987
Demons have gotten nothing from 40K. For fucks sake, UNDERWORLDS, has given them more support.
Let’s not even get into how lazily the codex’s/ rules for demons have been in general, they’re either over powered as shit or you have the 9th edition codex. Also the army is just micro factions souped with micro factions.

>>95938327
It is, you're just upset your bait was easily deflected

>>95939007
Don't forget that even within that specific detachment, not every one of the god's daemons can be used.
I WANT TO USE MY FUCKING MASTER OF BLOOD WITH MY WORLD EATERS GW AAAAAAAAAHHHHH

>>95939022
It'll be "expanded later".

Or go the way of the heavy flamer space marine.

>>95938987
Nobody fucking cares about demons, not even chaosfags, the only times people cared about them was those two times GW made them absurdly overpowered in tournament games years and years ago to convince people to buy the rainbow vomit faction.

They're definitely getting squatted and replaced with a fewer amount of 40k specific shit, and you would know it if you were literate enough to read the writing on the goddamn wall.

Alright guys, it's the last week of the month. Start submitting your vehicles and I'll start on the collage. Also feel free to make suggestions for next months theme, we'll do a vote this weekend

>>95939031
Just remember to reject anything by the decalfaggot

>>95939031
I didn't get a vehicle this month so I'll miss this one, but a suggestion for next month is custom warlords.

>>95939012
Those are not rioters anon, or are you implying that armed militias, sick people and turncoat military are the same thing a rioters?

>>95939040
I would suggest painting a pair of soldiers standing side by side.

To force people to up their standard quality of their basic dudes. Battle line only.

demons as an army should be squatted but only so they can be replaced with a Damned codex that focuses on cultists, traitor guard and daemon summoning

>>95939057
I got a box of zerks I've got to go through (Only doing 5 to go with the 5 that I can't run anymore, using the other 5 bodies as bitz fodder) so this is fine for me.

With how things are going with Greyknights, they probably aren’t gonna be getting a psychic phase back…..

>>95939058
>Damned codex that focuses on cultists, traitor guard and daemon summoning
that codex chaos space marines already

>but I want to play imperial guard but spiky without mareens?!1!!
then use the guard and/or genestealer codex

>>95939031
Maybe we could do a terrain month? It would allow poorfag friends to participate too if they scratch build. Making a kitbash interpretation of a character that doesn't have an official model could be cool too. I'd do Moriar or Cleutin.

>>95939097
I wanna have an army where the Greater Daemon is the forced warlord and must start in reserves but your cultists/traitor guard can do actions (rituals) that buff the daemon, with it getting stronger the longer it hides in reserves.
Turn 1 drop is weaker than normal
Turn 2 drop is stronger than a normal daemon
Turn 3 drop with rituals is stronger than a primarch

you fellas wouldn't happen to know of some chinese people with a certain profession that happen to have vindicators/predators right

Drop Pods.

>>95939120
The game usually ends by turn 3. Sometimes even 2.

>>95939132
This reveals you as a shitter btw

Which edition of 40k was the most fun to play and why?

>>95939031
resubmitting my proteus for consideration

>>95939138
More like the nature of 10th.
At least with GSC I already know if I've lost by turn 3. Could push it a turn further if we are some how tied up in points, but that rarely happens.

>>95939031
Submitted

>>95939140
4th, for options alone.
Even meme armies like Admech have rules in there granted they are in doc. file since they never got to chance to be published before 5th dropped and raped 40k forever.

Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>95939102
Terrain month would be fun, just to see if people have the chops to make something fun and unique.
If this was the case I would have to theme it around one of my armies:
1: Necrons
2: Dark Eldar
3: Nids
4: World Eaters
5: Iron Warriors
6: Night Lords

>>95939031

>>95939097
>Use GSC for Traitor Guard
Unless youre playing GSC infected guard (Brood Brother Auxilia) this is a retarded idea.

>>95937871
Not that much. My dudes basically just follow the pre-primarch conventions because they fucking hate primarchs for being a bunch of either traitors, weak retards or cowards that ran away. So they paint their armour terran gray and are organized according to the Principia Belicosa, meaning a chapter of ten 10k men lead by a praetor, two battallions of 5 companies each lead by a legate, each company of 1k marines lead by a centurion and strike forces of 100 men lead by decurions.

>>95939176
How have they avoided getting raped to death by the inquisition/ wider imperium for not paying the daddy goo tax?

>>95939141
Well don’t but ugly scheme.
>>95939161
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>>95939166
Nice.

>>95939212
nobody asked faggot

>>95939175
Oddly enough playing GSC with Lost and the damn is not a bad idea. Since the old GSC rules from 3rd lack some of the modern equivalents like aberrants that you can do with the big mutants from the traitor guard.

>>95939201
Custodes appreciate their hate towards primarchs.

>>95939102
With this suggestion I would go one step further: build terrain that also acts as a display piece for your armies.

>>95939201
Also they do pay their cum taxes. They hate primarchs, not the administratum.

>Bash an invader ATV proxy that's more like a hover-BDRM / AKREP

Sorta hoping that mounted keyword is on the July entry poll

>>95939241
I just traced the atv outline and made a base to run a proteus as a proxy

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>95939216
Custodes don’t hate primarchs though, they dislike marines and normal humans don’t even enter into their thinking. They also wouldn’t intervene to stop the high lords from slapping down legion building unless it somehow involved the security of Terra.

>>95939233
5% of a nominal strength of 10000 marines would be enough to create a new chapter every generation. They would be the primary genetors of most space marines by M42 rather than the Ultras if that were the case.

>>95939249
Shit I just got a proteus to do the same.

>>95939263
what chapter? do you want my base STL?

>>95939262
>Custodes don’t hate primarchs though
Diocletian would beg to differ.
>They also wouldn’t intervene to stop the high lords from slapping down legion building unless it somehow involved the security of Terra.
The high lords also wouldn't necessarily intervene unless they had reasons to be suspicious. They left Huron get away with his shit for decades until it affected the tithes of other worlds. Much less if this chapter is following a particular set of rules that imposes other very specific limits. It's 10k marines because that's a legion era chapter and it will never be more than that.
>They would be the primary genetors of most space marines by M42 rather than the Ultras if that were the case.
To be fair it isn't the Ultramarine chapter doing that, it's the ultramarine stock.

>>95939127
Why in the fuck is there a need to have terrain baked into the fucking model like a little broken concrete and dirt terrain isn't literally the easiest thing in the world to make? God forbid I want to have a standalone drop-pod model

>>95939276
Thanks but I'll just use the regular round base. I don't think it's gonna be an issue.

>>95939007
>You don't understand.
They're being shoe-horned into the deity specific chaos marine codexes.

Okay please explain why this list wont a GT 3 days ago:

Chaos Daemons
Daemonic Incursion
Strike Force (2,000 Points)

CHARACTERS

Great Unclean One (295 Points)
Great Unclean One (250 Points)
Rendmaster on Blood Throne (165 Points)
Rotigus (250 Points)

Plaguebearers (110 Points)

Beasts of Nurgle (65 Points)
Beasts of Nurgle (65 Points)

Bloodcrushers (220 Points)
Bloodcrushers (220 Points)

Flesh Hounds (75 Points)

Skull Cannon (95 Points)
Skull Cannon (95 Points)
Skull Cannon (95 Points)

Explain why they have gotten codex worth of detachments and constant rules support and changes. Explain why they can still be allied into CSM. Oh wait, you are just shitstirring to push a narrative you brainlessly regurgitate.

>>95939009
Vashtorr came out 2 years ago.

>>95939352
Anon he could be deleted from the game and im sure no one could care.

>>95939369
Well, so could the Norn Emissary or any random model I pull out of my ass.

>>95939369
People definitely would care. This is 40k, not Age of Shitmar. Beastmen got barely any pushback because no one actually plays AoS, they just buy the models for hobbying. If Vashtorr gets legends'd I will believe demons are being squatted.

>>95939031
Are jetbikes allowed? Asking for a friend

>>95939413
But I love my norn to the point I wrote a datasheet for it for older editions :(

So, HOW absolute is the Custodes’ authority in the palace? Remember this thing is continent-sized (mountain range?). Obviously they can tell you to fuck off if they don’t want you to enter the Throne Room. But can they show up at a random council meeting or what have you in the Palace and lay down the law? Also, is there no level of external accountability for them? Ie, if the Custodes let some random mortal nobody approach the Throne but told a High Lord to get lost, do they not have to explain themselves? “Because I said so”? I get that Custodes’ thing is wisdom so they won’t generally agitate others or mess with other authorities, but do they really not have to explain shit to nobody when it comes down to it? How are disputes handled between Custodes and High Lords and Inquisitors etc? Is it like “step to me and let’s find out who’s right?”

I have a confession. I got back into the hobby by buying a bunch of death guard and then life got me so busy so I didn't build anything for over a month. Today I built my second and final Plagueburst Crawler. Only a Rhino and some characters left before I can do my first game of 10th at 2k. I haven't played since 6th.

>>95939424
Feels more like cavalry but what the heck I'll allow it.

How many SPEHSS MUHREENS could Astro Hunter from skibidi toilet kill?

>>95939458
In that case my friend would like to submit this jetbike captain

>>95939443
nice job anon, i'd like to see them

>>95939420
>this is 40K
Firstborn?

>>95937497
i actually did cook 1k/2k list on subterrenean assault but i can't convince myself to buy like 3-4 trygon/mawloc boxes only to find out that funny tyrant with 3/6 hive guards shooting shocks is actually kinda shit compared to just giga brain squad of neuro+zoans

>>95939482
Only 1 plague marine fully painted and a few basecoated. But I want to get them all assembled so I can finally try playing the game haha

What Astra Militarum army is based and what is considered Reddit? I'd assume anyone who uses Kriegsman, Cadian, or Catachan Reddit?

>>95939031
>Also feel free to make suggestions for next months theme
Character would be a good theme, people can kitbash them if they don't have one at hand

>>95939535
Stop using such faggot slang you fucking child

>>95939285
Yeah but Huron still had to do the raising secretly. Kind of like the BTs. Though in their case they genuinely just don’t know where everyone is.

That’s part of why the Imperial response went full crazy. I mean there might have been some willingness to just break the claws up rather than kill everyone until the one peace negotiation got third partied. Huron was an empire builder and wanted more, he was going to die for it eventually.

As for how they manage to keep it at 10k and not go over, have they had any issues in the past? How do they police their own people to prevent a particularly ballsy captain or chapter master from deciding he wants more. Why not add another 1000 marines. Part of the reason chapters can even go extinct in the modern era is they don’t have an economy of scale to work with. A full 10k man chapter would be able to replace thousands of losses quickly and easily, which theoretically the gene vaults controlled by the Administratum should be able to do too, they just say no a lot.

I mean my hombrew just pay lip service to their primarch, but it’s mostly in relation to how their enemies categorize them. He’s just not their focus, founding chapter master and the concept of a Celestial Emperor kind of took up that cultural space. Daddy left for the milk. Doesn’t matter if he’s gonna come back with it someday, you’re just gonna have to deal.

How did your chapter even get together and be far enough away from anywhere important that they got ignored in the cleanup and enforcement of codex compliance until after Gorilliam got shanked?

I’m not criticizing the premise, I’m just curious.

>>95939535
there's literally no plastic models for anything other than cadia, krieg or catachan

>>95938620
which army would seth 'KWAB' rollins play?

Daily reminder that that happens all the time

>Plague Burst Crawler
I just thought of something. Wouldn’t they be constantly cooking up new concoctions for this thing in the Plague Planet’s laboratories? Seeing as how it was designed by Mortarion himself.

So what did Guilliman exactly thing about Cypher and his cadre of fallen? Like a bunch of dark angels with heresy era armor one carrying the lions sword is cause for alarm right?

>>95938936
I can't tell who is on whose side
BREAK THEIR BACKS!

>>95937888
>YOU
>fuck you

>>95939436
>nobody gives a fuck about this Chaos model
>oh I'm a nid player btw
Of course!

I really dig the new heroes models, should I start a Black Templars army?

>>95939600
I wasn't him, just wanted to throw in that I liked my norns.
But in all honesty, I don't want anyone to lose their models, no matter how new or my own personal opinions on them.

>>95939487
Gray Knights, Deathwatch and Tacticals are all still in the game.

>>95939606
I started liking them when I saw some cool models of them in /wip/, not a big fan of marines in general but templars look unique enough

>>95939600
Nta, but unironically, who cares for vaginataur? Hes been the worst part of chaos since his debut, and he’s somehow more boring than belakor. His datasheet was also as awful as his model too.

>>95939620
His datasheet got a glowup so CSM players do care about him (now)

>>95939620
vashtorr made me start my CSM army

>>95939609
>for now

>>95939617
Black Templars are what Marines should be. Holy warriors without a thought to being "tactical". Leave the combat webbing and sneakiness to the Guard

>>95939606
Do you like their other models enough? Are you interested in a infantry-focused melee army that doesn't jump pack around like blood angels?

>>95939632
I'm just picturing a servo-skull flying around with a claymore mine in its teeth. How long before 40k gets suicide servo-skulls or ones that carry a bomb they can drop?

I was going to ask is Death Guard are competative yet — then I thought about asking if ANY of the CSMs are competitive. Then I realized that, basically, ALL factions are currently weak. WTF happened to the game?

>>95939638
I really do like the Crusader Squads and the Sword Brethren, and the Bladeguard who aren't BT but fit super well. A few squads of those guys, some Ancients, some Chaplains, in transports, with a Dreadnought or two for backup sounds pretty sweet to me.

>>95935511
My money is on modern GW kits being sculpted for looks by digital sculptors who put little to no thought to how they might be laid out on the sprue, then cut and arranged by software tools with little to no human intervention. It would explain why there's "easy to assemble" kits in starter sets with shit like a random bit of knee armour attached to a cloak.

I'm assuming a level of non-retardation that's not exactly congruent with the behaviour of the firm, but if GW thought 3d printing was a threat there would be a return to fun to assemble traditional kits with more options.

>>95939654
>How long before 40k gets suicide servo-skulls
maybe when more of islamic britain plays 40k

>>95939654
I was under the impression that servo-skulls were of the honored servitor variety that are treated with great respect. It may be considered innovation to alter their designs for those ends, and deemed forbidden by the Admech. The Dark Mech though…..

Little forest guys.

Anyone else getting sick of models where the torsos and legs are one piece? Sure, I can spend time cutting and green stuffing, but fuck me, I don't want to do that for every model.

>>95939695
are those the Utinni guys?

Servo skull turret my beloved

>>95937808 (OP)
Do you guys think we'll get updated custodes models next year? Afaik the newest ones are the allarus and they look even shorter than the older custodian models, which are barely as tall as the new primaris but still with retarded proportions.

>>95939478
>>95939166
>>95939161
>>95939141
>>95939102
Nice. Thanks for the submissions. Don't worry I'll make a proper one once all the submisions are in, this one is just for fun.

>>95939739
Lord Valrak, master of the buffet and champion of diabetes, said custodes are getting a new box (for HH)

>>95939031
Got these goofy looking shits done before my kid was born! Week one of him home nd it's bizarre only really being active from 1pm-8pm and the rest of the day I'm either napping, quickly eating and feeding the wife or changing diapers.

>>95939031
I didn't finish and I probably won't finish on time. Clean the trim, shoulder weapons, arm weapons, faceplate, basing...

>>95937871
>They're a fleet based chapter specialised in void warfare and ship-to-ship boarding actions.
>They operate all around the galaxy using independent companies each with their own fleet which means sometimes they operate above 1k marines.
>Because of these they have ties to rogue trader houses, the imperial navy and mechanicus explorator fleets so they're usually seen accompanying imperial navy fleets, or acting as bodyguards for navy admirals, important techpriests and rogue traders.

>>95939502
Good luck, give us a battle report when they're all done.

>>95939031
My speeder and his lil fren on the base.

>>95937871
Is there a chaos version?

>>95939689
We can't have suicide bombers anymore, so clearly they have to invent something new. As drones are the new hotness, surely GW would get on them at some point. Not just Tau gun drones.

Who would unironically cheer a rollback to 9th ed?

>>95939778
It's a little bit of a stretch to call those vehicles but I'll consider it. Congrats on the kid.

I'm a certified genius. What army should I play?

>>95939849
1ksons

>>95939834
I hate 10th a lot but I don't want 9th at all either.

>>95939849
If you was a genie yous already know, smartiepants.

>>95939575
>happens regularly
>extreme minority of cases
these two are not contradictory

>>95939031

How's the book, Wolf fans? My buddy and I are were upset to see Murderfang lose his shenanigans.

>>95939931
You did that? Very cool if so.

Imperial agents expansion is coming
I can feel it...

whats the next big event that they'd dropship a buncha announcements in advance for the 2nd half of the year/last quarter? I kinda want to see how much votann will be fucked over salamanders and fists

>>95939950
Agents isn't a real army. It's just to contain lore pieces and to hold datasheets for Assassins and the like for other armies to soup in

>>95937871
>investigated by the Inquisition
>Inquisitor Deus Ex Machina
>Directly Involved with canon events
Last one is more because my buds like playing Crusade, so some of /mydudes/ participated in Pariah Nexus

>>95939950
Shut up, idiot.

>>95939031
I'm going to have to try finish mine over the weekend but will hopefully wrap it up then
>suggestions for next months theme
characters is the easy pick, though something like Elite Squads might be good too

>>95939031
Some hounds for my DG

>>95939031
>suggestions
A character from an army you've never painted before

>>95939815
yeah it just reads "Iron Warriors who don't fuck with Chaos and still look like HH era Iron Warriors"

Does a chaos warband revolving around bodily mutations and augmentations from an absurdly unstable geneseed going to be skewed towards following tzeentech or can they remain mostly undivided? I’ve been inspired from the old rogue trader era kitbashes and I want my dudes to have some caves of qud level mutations without being barely sapient chaos spawn. Is this whole idea stupid?

>>95940062
oh hell yeah Chaos Undivided can go crazy as fuck

Has anyone here bought Tabletop Stronghold cases for carrying miniatures, Looking for options that just isn’t the GW cases, but it seems like the one product where GW prices seem competitive.

>>95940062
man, mutations are a thing across all the chaos legions stop with this dumb thinking

>>95939970
>>95939978
It will be soon it will be soon
I can feel it...

>>95938106
I'm the most racist guy I know and I play orks

>>95939942
Thanks anon

>>95937871
>Second FOunding
I've conceptualized a custom Blood Angels successor, but I don't paint nearly enough to bother fleshing it out completely. Basically they're Vampire Bretonnia in space that recruit on a feudal world by taking tribute from the various petty kingdoms and from tournament winners. Failed aspirants are ritualistically sacrificed to feed the Red Thirst and they view the Black Rage as a way to be closer to Sanguinius rather than purely a thing to be feared.

Day 2 of assembling my combat patrol, I’m about halfway there. I might actually finish this in about as much time as my Kroot hunting pack

>>95937871
No one homebrews anymore because zoomers are retarded faggots who are too intellectually and creatively lazy to create their own army. They want daddy GW to spoon-feed them armies, lore and rules. They need to be told how to play because zoomers don't have an imagination. It's not entirely their fault though. This is the result of their shitty GenX parents letting video games, movies, smartphones and tablets raise them.

>>95940208
I will say that older gen z has more in common with gen y than they do with young gen z.

>>95940062
>Does a chaos warband revolving around bodily mutations and augmentations from an absurdly unstable geneseed going to be skewed towards following tzeentech
No don't flanderise your own imagination, khorne, nurgle and slaanesh have highly mutated followers to. Tzeentch is represented with magic and plots within plots far more than mutation

Havent managed to lose a game yet with Chaos Knights, 8 - 0 so far.
Last RTT was 3 - 0
Had a SWs player mad because my slaaneshi atropos had a cock modeled on it

>>95939031
>don't worry most peoples vehicles won't have the best paint job
>look at all of the replies to this
>all vehicles look fantastic

>>95939931
GENUINELY SO GOOD IT DOESNT BELONG IN THIS SHITHOLE

>>95940377
You don't play any games and you don't have a cock model.

>>95939931
I wanna know how you did all of the highlights on this, I'm struggling with finding a nice technique for highlighting black

Is it better to make a Dark Eldar army with a variety of models from the three sub-factions to mix and match different lists, or to see them as one army and build accordingly?
I know that wasn't the case for 9th but 10th is different.

>>95940193
rotate thy image

>>95940426
Dark Eldar units have very specific unit weapon upgrades that cannot be truely shared with Eldar.

>>95939950
They're going to get expanded by absorbing Grey Knights next edition
Hopefully cuckstodes and sisters of silence join them as well

>>95940436
I wasn't asking that, I was asking whether it would be better to make specific Kabal, Wych and Coven lists that I can mix/match to make armies whenever, or better to view the entire faction as one army and build it like I would with every other army.

>>95940443
Pick what you know first, and then look at whatever lore is available of the others.

Detachments aren't solid or damning.

>>95940426
I havent played 10th but my understanding is you can pick and choose, so no harm just taking what you like for now. I presume when the codex comes they'll get kabal/cult/coven focused detachments so who knows then
if you mean fluff or model wise, either is fine, a mixed band makes just as much sense as a kabal that bought a couple pain engines from the local haemonculi or what have you

>>95940418
>from an RTT I was at a little while ago

How would a chapter of marines that are just clones of Pitbull play out in the grim dark universe of warhammer 40,000k?

>>95940465
>filename

it's okay anon, most of us don't play games here.

>>95939689
Can admech just be bullied into making something new by like an inquisitor or something?

>>95939934
I don't like it.
Mostly because TWC with Wolf Lord and Wolf Guard Battle Leader were the hammer of my army. And WG Terminators with Captain and WGBL in Terminator Armour were the anvil.
And Njal with a blob of Terminators was also fun to run.
New codex ruined all of them.
And Murderfang.
And killed my Long Fangs with either Multi-meltas or Las Cannons, which anchored my anti-armour.
Getting special Bladeguard Vets doesn't make up for everything we lost.

I'm going to Horus Heresy until 11th. At least.

>>95940483
>posting direct pictures from your camera without screenshotting it so data cant be tracked to location

>>95940477
>bunch of weird manlets who just make noise at the enemy and pretend they're a huge deal
But we already have Emperor's Children.

>>95940494
4chan wipes that data

>>95939261
So what’s the weakest link in the trifecta of Kabal/Coven/Cult? Not in universe, but in popularity and actually being bought and played? I feel like the Wyches Cults are dead last, with the Covens coming in close second to the Kabals.

>>95940498
since when?
that shit used to be used against people all the time

>>95940505
since like 2010

>>95940507
nah bro, i was a namefag til like, 2016 and people still did that shit

>>95940511
well you're flatout wrong

Not that I would want to share my location with anyone, but what’s the worst that could happen?
Not like some anon would show up to your house and murder you for no reason.

We know the stereotypical fetishes "Dark ANgels players are gay Space Wolf players are furries hurr" and they're mostly just dumb. But what fetishes really are over-represented in the player base of different armies?

Like, Space Wolf players are massive fans of muscular women

Black Templars fans tend towards the femboy

what other fetish/army tastes tend to go together?

>>95940423
It's a dark blue/grey over black, then a mix of that with white, I don't have an exact formula for the mix I just do whatever looks good at the time I am painting it.

>>95940528
Nids players are into monster porn and Space Marine players are either into gay porn

>>95940525
They could backtrace you and then the cyber police would have to get involved

>>95940528
Tyranid players want to fug the bug

>>95940528
GSC players are definitely into monster-fucking and impregnation.

>>95940525
The point is to eliminate one more way for losers to feel powerful. These terminally online faggots feel powerful when they are able to track down people that piss them off. Terminally online losers don't deserve to feel powerful, so every step should be taken to eliminate their ability to engage in activities that makes them feel powerful.

>>95940577
incel

Can Grey Knights be sometimes asked to assist its a non-Chaos matter? Like say if some Inquisitor is scouring the sector for reinforcements to help with some battle, and he reaches out to a Grey Knights force on their way back from somewhere else. I understand that generally Grey Knights are super secret and only for dealing with Chaos and Warp threats, but they’re STILL Astartes, and if the Empror’s forces could use their help why WOULDN’T they pitch in if it wouldn’t interfere with their main mission? Or are they SO secret that it’s not worth them showing up at all unless it’s absolutely necessary to get rid of an apocalyptic Warp incursion etc?

>>95937813
For individuals I would say picrel, but for vehicles it's the Falcon grav-tank. This piece is my favorite kind, where the character is posed for a classic paint & canvas portrait and the look it provides is more representative than literal. You know an old model is good when it still shows up in painting competitions even when the theme isn't retro minis.

>>95940625
it's 40k, there's always an excuse to make anything happen.

But generally speaking, Grey Knights are so rare, so valuable, and so uniquely suited to fighting Daemons it would be a massive waste to have them spend any time fighting like Orks or whatever. A Grey Knight who dies fighting Necrons is a Grey Knight wasted. They are built for the sole purpose of killing Daemons, and are better at it than anything else in the galaxy.

But, as always, in 40k you can come up with a reason for any faction to fight anything. And even if there's no good reason you can always just say it's Tzeentch trickery

>>95940604
Nah. Incels are the ones who feel the need to stalk people online just because that person said something they disagree with. Normal people just take the L and move on.

>>95940659
fucking faggot ass mary sue faction

>>95940659
Skull tits are based and canon.

>>95940659
They had a Space Hulk expansion dedicated to them, but at that point they were adding rules for a number of factions outside of just Terminators and Genestealers.

>>95940661
Is it really an L if you don't care enough about some guy's hot opinion on an anonymous Montenegrin fishing forum to give even a mocking reply?

>>95940676
The easy way to have Grey Knights fight non-Daemons is to just say that the bad guys are in between the Grey knights and the Daemons. Like there's some Orks that are using a weird Chaos thing to power their Mega-Gargant and it might rip open a whole in reality so the Grey Knights have to fight their way through the Orks to destroy the Chaos thing before it causes a Daemon incursion.

That's a perfectly fluffy reason to have GK fight Orks, but if the backstory is that there's just a regular Wauuugh happening and some Grey Knights showed up to fight it, that doesn't feel fluffy to me.

>>95940566
Marry and reproduce would be the correct fetish for gsc.

>>95939816
I'm still mad they removed my suicide bomb rules for gsc. Hazardous is not the same and the random exploding character in one detachment is just lame.

>>95940717
At least Krieg got their little remote bomb, so it's easy to model it as a human bomb.

>>95940701
Marry and reproduce with the bug-girl, anon.

>>95940717
its a chaos cultist detachment thing now

>>95937871
All of my imperials are bundled into one crusade fleet
The marines are a 9th founding, fleet based, White Scars successor, that has divided its companies i to their own mini chapters sent out to assist in other crusades, I'm focusing on the 3rd company which is lead by the head Chaplain

>>95939654
>>95939689
It is literally a unit in the Navy Kill Team you newfags.

>>95940528
Kill yourself

>>95939931
>female commissar
Cringe, but at least you made her sexy. I guess it could be an Imperial propaganda piece, like a pin-up lady.

>>95940912
Are servoskull drone swarms ever mentioned? I have an idea for a chapter that makes extensive use of them, most marines have a personal one that’s tied to their suit telemetry. The idea of getting mobbed by them, analyzing you, before an attack is cool.

>>95940927
Old Magos Dominus had a bunch under his hat.

>>95940927
>Are servoskull drone swarms ever mentioned?
Not that I've ever come across. At least not yet. Drone swarms are a relatively new facet of warfare and GW mostly draws on archaic stuff for inspiration, a lot of 40k is WW2 in space. But give it another couple years, and maybe.

>>95940912
Does it have 40k rules?

>>95940949
The KT itself exists as a unit in Imperial Agents, I don't know if the skull gets to explode on stuff though, 10th edition is really lame and low energy on cool rules like that.

Post fat imperial ass

>>95940960
Fuck off coomer

Finished a Plasmancer, still figuring out the best way to do hyper blades but it looks...okay from a foot away, at least.

>>95940972
Looks good other than the blade anon, and like you say, from far enough away the blade is fine too.

>>95940962
board made by coomers for coomers, keep crying

>>95940996
It's actually traditional games, made by gamers for games. You can kill yourself any time.

>>95940990
Yeah, I'll probably strip him and repaint him once the rest of the army is done. You know when you try to go for that extra little step, you get greedy and then realize you messed everything up? That's what I felt like when I decided to put the highlights on the sides of the blade instead of just being content with the edges, my hand was nowhere near steady enough to pull that off and it looked way better before...

>>95941000
>tourist trying to revise history
lmao

>>95941001
Honestly you don't need to strip that to fix it, you can just do some more careful layering and maybe a green wash to smooth out the transitions. Trust me.

>>95941006
Scroll up dumbfuck, the name of the board is literally written up there. Traditional Games. Go back to your porn board. No one cares about your tranny porn addiction cope.

>>95940528

>>95941011
>seething over being caught out as a tourist
lol

>>95941016
Oh it's one of the discord raiders again.

>>95941011
This board started as /d/-lite, keep larping

>>95941017
>you're the outsider not me
pathetic lmao

>>95940996
This is so insanely pathetic. Imagine identifying as a "coomer". Jfc, I genuinely feel pity for you.

>>95941022
Yeah you fags aren't subtle, it's the same exact shit every single time. Get a life faggot.

>>95941026
Feel free to leave at any time

>>95941028
You don't belong here and never will.

>>95941021
No one cares what the board was like a gorillion years ago. I've been here since 2012 and it wasn't a coomer board then so kill yourself.

>>95941037
Half the threads in 2012 were I want to FUCK this gnoll girl

>>95941037
Why be a neo-puritian though anon

>>95941007
I would, but I'm already starting to notice that the edges and details are starting to soften from the layers of paint already on it, it'll start to look like a foam toy sword if I go too much harder on it, but I can give it a shot before fully committing to stripping it later, thanks.

>>95941037
>Goalposts shifted

>>95941033
I will always belong here more than a literal tranny from discord who organizes raids to troll people and ruin threads. You don't even belong in life and everyone would be better off if you hurried up and jumped off the cliff already.

>>95941048
trying too hard

>>95941047
There were no goalposts nigger I never argued what the board "started out" as, I literally said no one cares about that to begin with. You are just looking for justification for your pathetic porn addiction to ruin discussions.

>>95941050
Get new material, all your replies are the same shit now. Looks like you got fucking mindbroken by being outed the other day as a discord raider.

>>95941051
You don't speak for the thread, tourist
>>95941056
Schizo-kun I...

>>95941044
Because porn addicts have become cringe slaves to their addiction and these days having the self-control to not be a coomer when everyone is doing it is what is based and counter-cultural.

>>95941059
>tourist tourist tourist
Never more obvious projection than from discord trannies

>>95941063
been here since 2007, keep seething invader

>>95941066
Post 40k codex from 2007 with timestamp

>>95941067
Have one from a decade before that.

>>95941067
What if anon doesn't play CSM, DA or BA (the only codexes released in 2007)?

>>95937871
tbf about the codex deviant its not a hard rule and never was literally half the founding chapters are codex deviant and they specifically made black templars to show people that even other chapters besides first founding can deviate from it.

As for bingo I don't play space marines but I know a space wolves player who fucking takes the cake on this entire ass bingo card lmao
>Chapter master is the son of leman russ
>Owns an entire fleet+planet, planet is called Arcadia btw
>Holds command of the planets guard regiments which he also plays and painted the same scheme as the space marines
>Owns a single knight so of course he painted it in the same color scheme and says its under the chapters command too, he also named the knights household name after his own last name

>>95941082
>the coomer is a chaosfag
Imagine my shock. Probably the slaaneshtranny.

I still got you beat.

>>95941105
bought that off ebay

>>95941109
Could make the same argument about yours. Except my book is older, more rare and more expensive so it's more likely that you did it than me.

>>95941088
>Holds command of the planets guard regiments
Did no one tell him that chapter homeworlds, just like all Imperial worlds, raise their own defence forces? UM has the Ultramar Auxilia, SW have the Kaerls.

>>95941088
>>Chapter master is the son of leman russ
Kek, jesus christ

>>95941105
Nope, I played a world eaters army until 6th then quit aside from painting until the end of 9th with our codex
>>95941111
>autist is a schizo too
what a shock

>>95937871
Eh kinda these?

My guys, the "Celestial Raiders) were founded by the high lords of Terra during the distant tumult of [insert cannon event] to protect a large swath of space called the Attixus Beltway around the edges of the Ultima Segmentum. Basically they do counter pirating actions against primarily dark eldar and their #1 enemy, the red corsairs.

The TWIST is that they were sort of rushed into founding as the need for a chapter to monitor this growing travel/shipping space was great and everyone else was busy. So the high lords sorta did it quick and dragged their feet with telling the fuxking DARK ANGELS about it for a year or 2. So the chapter developed their own culture and rules etc. However after observing them for a few more years the chapter master and the higher marines of the chapter were brought into the fold, told of their duty to capture the fallen, and given wargear to bring them in line with other DA Successors.

The chapter gratefully and gladly adopted their parent legions ways and methods of war, however the chapter master was directly reticent to endulge in what he learned was the deep mistrust, carelessness,and paranoia that the hunt for the fallen was. So he decided the only active inner circle members would be himself, their Forgelord(tech marine guy), their high apothecary, their chaplain, etc you get the idea. No grunts or even vets would know.

>>95941119
Anon this doesn't prove anything, if you're going to make the ebay argument you could easily have bought any number of those books that way. I also note a conspicuous lack of the first 3rd ed Chaos codex which suggests you might indeed be a faker who didn't know that you missed one.

>>95941109
>>95941111
See this is why showing models or other things as a "gotcha" is a shit idea.
Guys, we're better than this, we can take an argument on their own merits.

>>95941126
>Everybody who responds to me is the same person
Yeah alright bud

>>95941119
>>95941126
He also put them in the wrong order kek

>>95941132
They're not in any specific order, that's just how they were stacked on my shelf.

>>95941128
Ngl I actually am slightly more willing to give that nigger the benefit of the doubt for having an older codex than to just shit on him relentlessly.

Even if it just forces people to buy old shit from ebay that's more effort than most trolls are willing to put in, it weeds out poorfag basement dwellers.

>Someone posted they have an old vect and Dais of Destruction model all assembled and painted correctly
>$500 dollarydoos
Man, I can't justify it but I want him so badly.

>>95941150
Power from (financial) pain, anon.

>>95937871
I love my fancy dreadnoughts and weapon bits

>>95941113
I can only guess not so he made up a guard regiment to fight alongside his marines in their campaigns.

>>95941117
There is 100% 1 or 2 other things he said that I have forgotten but I really need to pay more attention to what he says when he brings up his chapter because its endless entertainment.

The guy also wanted to join the US military and wouldn't shut the fuck up about it then just didn't so I think hes just using 40k as a power fantasy to fill the void of having served in his mind.

>>95941163
As true as that is I really at this point cannot justify 500 bucks on a singular model. At the same time I won't accept a recast either because I want to feel the weight of that thing in my hands. Fuck.

>>95940960
10-4

>>95937871
>Directly involved in major canon events
so anyone that's old enough to have played in one of the global campaigns?
Anyway my chapter of IF successors was stripped of their homeworld and forced on a penitent crusade, launched themselves at a chaos invasion (which eventually stalled) and were effectively depleted before the order to reform as a garrison chapter finally reached them. New homeworld is an Imperial fortress world they've tarted up a bit.

By the time "current history" for the subsector many of our games take place in they are mostly recovered but still have a nice round 12 companies with two extra scout companies to feed new marines into the chapter. Weird mix of defensive/siege doctrine and scout specops shenanigans.

Few too many canon chapters with Castellans in the name so probably need to change up the fluff a bit when I get them out of their box again.

>>95941037
You can stop pretending now

>>95941037
That's objectively untrue though

>>95941082
>retarded writing that nobody would ever use
Why pretend to be a participant in this hobby teminatorfag

>>95941206

>>95940960
Mommy

>>95941214
>answers within 30 seconds
>no I swear it's not me I just care because.... just because okay@
Lmfao gottem

>>95941219
genuine mental illness

Cheesecake or no cheesecake I don't care. As long as there is a balanced discussion shit it doesn't matter nigga.
Just don't take cheesecake as canon. Those fuckers are the worst.

>>95940960
Sisters sexoooo

>>95941227
Custodes have 80 inch hip measurements, L cup breasts, and 36inch long cocks and nothing you say will ever convince me otherwise

>>95940960
Chocolate elf ass supremacy!

Lord kakophanist worth it for the sustained hits 1 on noise marines?

total gooner genocide

>>95940960
Blue bumcheeks reign supreme!

>>95941290
You don't have any slaanesh models it doesn't matter

>>95941327
Will i get ostracized from/tg/ if I hang myself with a unpainted rope?

>>95941251
b-big huge s-strong lady...
n-n-nice to me...

>>95941336
yes

>>95941336
>Will i get ostracized from/tg/
You already are ostracized for having no miniatures

Iron Halos on Space Marines are cool up until the moment you have to paint around one on a model

>>95941346
Can I use nuln oil to hide my mistakes?

>>95940960
For the greater gyatt

>>95941354
No
Do not compound your guilt by evading punishment; as there are greater crimes, so are there greater sentences

>>95941290
It's not a huge difference, but he's fun for that and the Doom Siren proccing mortals and maybe a battle shock.

>>95941354
All the nuln oil in the world couldnt hide the fact that you have no models

>>95941352
When I started my CSM I got through 2 guys out of an initial lot of 10 before deciding from now on I'm keeping the heads & backpacks separate, and in some cases weapons. It makes a significant difference. It still takes me a pretty long time to paint 1 model because lol trim and I'm slow as fuck, but none of it is annoying.

>>95940960
Gsc have the best ass in the game

>>95941439

Speaking of tau, are piranhas actually usable for anything?

>>95941455
Looking cool and being good conversion base.
Yeah I got nothing.

>>95941455
I dont think so but here's some blue titties to cheer you up

>>95937972
They chould have taught you how to hold your chotgun Right

What fun units do you have in your list, /40kg/? Like non-meta shit

>>95941480
idk i don't actually play the game

>>95941483
You and 90% of this general no doubt

>>95941480
Heresy tanks for my Iron Warriors. Love me big autocannons.

>>95941480
bladeguard + judiciar in a drop pod

>>95941480
No matter how bad he may be, I love my gunslinger.

>>95941480
All of my sword brethren wield power swords. No lightning claws or thunder hammers. They're sword brothers goddammit, not hammer bros.
My 1k BT is all mellee all in. Crusaders, outriders, sword brethren, bladeguards. The onlu thing that can shoot a bit are my termies but even then it has a heavy flamer.
No firepower, no tanks and transports. Just a sword and a prayer.

>>95941352
Discover subassemblies.

>>95941480
Probably mek gunz, don't think they are used much outside of dread mob but I think they are rad

>>95941480
Legends dread are terrible but fun

>>95941354
Nuln oil can cover many sins

>>95941455
>are piranhas actually usable for anything?

>>95941480
I havent played in forever, but the ork buggies (dragstas and scrapjets specifically) were pretty fun in 8th/9th

Anyone know where I can grab the Era of Ruin audio book? /t/ is pretty slow to respond and I'd love to have it for an impending long distance drive.

>>95941604
Kindle store and kobo have it 25$ cheaper than BL

>>95941596
He invented a way to make tau not ghey. If I didn't see it with my own eyes, I wouldn't have believed it.

>>95939553
I imagine them being second or third founding so that the founders were around when Guilliman got shanked and after seeing every other primarch get wrecked or lost they just realized primarchs are all a bunch of losers and abandoned the codex to follow the Emperor's own organization. Now that Guilliman's back they pay lip service but don't care about him at all and keep acring independently protecting their sector like they always did ans sometimes sending a strike force to important battles if I feel like playing a campaign there.

>>95941354
There are few problems in this world that nuln oil can't fix

>>95941616
Sick asf

>>95941105
>>95941119
I'm genuinely impressed if this isn't a larp with shit you bought from ebay and you fags have been in the hobby that long.

>Have spending cash again
>know I should prioritize my army's codex but at the same time the siren's song of consooming is already in my ears
>my LGS even has dice for my faction up for grabs
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKK

>>95941850
>wasting money on a book that will be outdated by the time it even hits the shelves

>almost talked myself into starting a nid army despite not playing in years and having 3 (5 depending how you count them) armies already

>>95941850
pirate your codex and get whatever chessex dice you want, like a normal person

>>95941892
What about nids appeals to you? They're the only army I've never even once contemplated starting

>>95941892
For the price of a tyranid army you could buy an ovipositor dildo and enough gelatin for eggs to last you years

>>95941850
>2025
>buying codex
>buying faction dice
Newfag

>>95941850
If you want free money buy the dice and hold them for a couple years, the price always goes through the roof for them on aftermarket

>>95941908
No one actually buys these.

>>95941900
>xe didn't buy the servo skull palette
>xe didn't buy the Citadel Tools®: Mouldline Remover™
>xe didn't buy the warhammer water pot
>not even the official painting handle
fucking nomodels summer tourists get out of my board reeeee

>>95941914
You have no miniatures

>>95941914
The original GW buttplug handle (not the shitty new wineglass one) was actually a genuinely good and reasonably priced product. And I say that as a vocal GW hater. Wish I'd bought more than one before GW took them away to replace them with an objectively shittier product (cunts).

>>95941914
the citadel water pot isn't a meme and makes cleaning brushes so much easier

>>95941921
takes one to know one, shitter

>>95941931
>no u
A script as old as time itself

>>95941898
honestly just seems like a fun thing to paint. The logical thing would be to just buy a model or two, and I may do that, but my brain always kicks into "yeah but what if you like how they look, then you'll want to play them" territory

>>95941925
The og one also uses standard sized threads that they use on camera equipment so you can swap the handles for camera grips if you prefer or mount the top of the painting handle on a tripod if you really wanted to.

>>95941936
spoken like a true nomodels :^)

>>95941940
Oh no not another thing to enjoy in life, anything but that. Bruh just buy the things you think look cool, if it becomes and army one day then great , otherwise who cares if it doesnt

>no u again
Loel
Luhmao

>daemons squatted
but why?

>>95941980
AoS is a sinking ship and they don't want any models from it tainting their other franchises. Demons will eventually get moved to the Old World which is run by a seperate department inside GW from 40k and they can't allow revenue to help brother because then Daddy might not love them as much anymore.

>>95941940
Just buy and paint a Norn to get it out of your system.

>>95941992
>AoS is a sinking ship
been hearing that forever

>>95941980
GW wants as little cross compatibility between departments, systems and armies, as possible, both to push people to buy more armies and products, instead of less but usable in more games, and because allegedly it makes keeping track of what sells and for what system much more streamlined for them, and they need that data to assign budgets between departments

also gw wants you to buy the newer and pricy 40k models for nurgle, tzeentch, slaanesh and khorne forces, instead of the old and cheaper demons

also the independent demon codex was a compromise of a different time and idea regarding the model ranges of chaos, when gw thought independent books for the gods weren't a possibility

also, in time, gw wants to give 40k its own cyber-demons instead of relying on the fantasy ones, but that takes time and in any case won't be a separate independent book, but units for the divided armies, nor it will be a range as large as demons are now thanks to decades of piecemeal releases

How long has this "post models" shit been going on for? Surely we need something new, this shit is stale af fr

At times I wonder if GW is holding back some urge to do a WHFB spin-off of only humans a la Horus Heresy equivalent except not in TOW's way.

>>95941455
Seeker missile spam.
Also fast fusion blaster delivery.

>>95941992
I find it more likely that AoS keeps the current ugly demons, while TOW gets to reuse the old metals and FW resins as additional units of their undivided army, like back at the time of hordes of chaos

>>95942011
>Surely we need something new
Post bitsbox for hobbyists and codex, ruler and dice for players.

perfectly anonymous proof of participation.

>>95942011
Since the first man put brush to pewter, the devil whispered in his ear "if you think it's so good why don't you show it to other people?"

>>95942023
I will judge you very harshly for your choice of dice and whether you clean all your bits as they come off the sprue or not

>>95942023
Post bitsbox.
And before anyone says anything, I've got way too many necron warriors and keep these sprues as kitbash material.

>>95941980
no one plays daemons lmao

>>95941992
>still spouting this cope
if anything, TOW will die before AoS

>>95941980
>>95942033
I believe in the Imperialization of Chaos is the ultimate goal of the Emperor and the point of the setting. The Emperor plans to rewrite all of the Immaterium into his image. Abaddon the Loyalist, his greatest ally, is secretly into this plan. This is why he chose the name Imperium Nihilius, to retain the name Imperium.

Together, all of Chaos will become theirs. Khorne will wake up on his Golden Skull Throne, not realizing there's anything wrong. Tzeentch will be unable to shapeshift in any form but Space Marines. The only drugs going through Slaanesh will be performance enhancers for Space Marines. Nurgle's Nurglings have already started wearing human hats. The process has begun and cannot be stopped. Besides Daemons, all Chaos on tabletop is already Chaos Imperium. Eventually there will only be Chaos Imperium. Then there will be no Chaos without Imperium.

It's already working marvelously. The poster children for Chaos are CSM who fight with Bolters, Plasma, and other Imperial weapons. No Chaos Xenos exist. Daemons will be squatted and soon all Chaos will be Imperium + Spikes.

Chaos will become Imperialized. Just imagine what this means, the Immaterium composed of thoughts from countless universes, all being Imperium. This means across all realities, it's impossible to even THINK of non-Imperial things. This is the Emperor's goal.

>>95942023
Not a bad idea desu, I just need to take all of the sprues from my big pile of boxes and chuck it all in a storage container

>>95942030
Actually looking at this then looking over to the box I realize I have sprues for days to scratch build something. I dunno what I should do, but any tips from anons on doing sprue scratchbuilds?

If Demons are squatted then the Avatar of Khaine and Celestine can go away with them too.

If Daemons are squatted then the Emperor has won and sealed Chaos away.

>>95942069
Trust in the Golden Path.

>>95942023
My bitsbox is full of empty sprues

>>95942069
The disappeance of normal demons and the survival of only demon engines and cyber demons is not a victory for the emperor but a victory for vashtorr, because it means he monopolised demon summoning

>>95942076
As it should be. You paid for that plastic at a premium. Now it's your right to sit on it like a hoarder's trash pile for the next twenty years.

>>95942082
If all the demons go but we somehow end up keeping the stupid soul grinder I will be very cross.

>>95942074
Fuck the Golden Path.

>>95942086
Soul grinder and defiler are getting a refresh if nothing else due to their age. However they may not redesign them after the refresh since the GK baby carrier survived.

>>95942086
don't worry the soulgrinder will go away too

because he's getting an update and parasitizing over half of the spruespace of the new defiler kit, which will be forced to have demonic flesh everywhere as the difference between grinder and defiler will be that the latter has armor and a helmet over the grinder body

>>95942095
>since the GK baby carrier survived
the GK baby carrier will not survive, the upgrade sprue is a thing that will live for 2 years

>>95942076
I keep a box of empty sprues because they're useful for cutting up and greebling terrain and sometimes useful for making sprue goo but if I'm completely honest with myself I could probably throw 80% of it out. But I won't.

gsc bros, is final day a good detachment to play?

Why are chosen so core to CSM armies? Surely a bunch of S5 AP-2 D1 attacks aren't that worthwhile.

>>95942112
It's the ability attached to them that gives their leader advance+charge. That ensures your leader can rush the board and slaughter your opponent with a tidal wave of dice

>>95941908
listing =/= selling

>>95941980
see >>95938987
They arent actually getting squatted, its just a narrative people are trying to push so they can be mad about something that hasnt actually happened.

>>95937871
What is the appropriate fleet size for a CSM warband around 100 models strong?

>>95942118
>your leader can rush the board and slaughter your opponent with a tidal wave of dice
Which leader is that?

>>95941980
It really feels like a watershed moment because daemons are so foundational to 40k and yet in about 2-3 years daemons will only be able to be played in the Daemon DetachmentTM and there will be no way to field a pure Daemon army.

>>95942125
Pick your poison. Do you want a beatstick (Chaos Lord), a Buffer (Sorceror/Master of Possession, Dark Apostle), a Headhunter (Master of Executions), or any named character not in terminator armor.

why are there so many phobos marine leaders but no gravis leaders

>retaliation cadre on sale in some godforsaken shop
how dumb are the battlesuits after last update?

>>95942112
I like a big squad of 10 with an MoE in a rhino.

>jump out
>dump combi weapon shots into a target usually kill 1
>now below starting strength so MoE gives reroll hits
>charge
>dark pact
>reroll hits goes brrrrr
8 power fist attacks and 36 Acc weapon attacks plus MoE will rape most units. They’re also very manoeuvrable with in built advance charge/fallback charge so can zoom up the board. Not amazing but great at killing MeQs

>>95942122
You could fit that into 1 ship

>>95942135
because you're blind

>>95942151
>>95942118
They're also reasonably durable, the usual 10 man squad is 30 wounds. Sure they're MEQs but if you have anything to increase durability and needing 3 wounds to kill one it starts to add up. I've had my 10 man brick survive some serious firepower in fellhamer (-1 to wound and 5+FNP)

>>95942120
I mean the writing is on the wall, Daemons will not have physical codices it seems, all bespoke legions are getting summoning their own daemons massively restricted. It's pretty likely CSM will have a similar restriction next edition too, and they will probably not get nearly as much support rules-wise (since no codex = no money for GW). The future of Daemons isn't looking very bright, it's pretty clear GW wants to make them a "only in bespoke legions" thing.

>>95942135
Captain and apothecary biologis exists

>>95942178
Tbh, I'm find with GW making stuff like Deathwatch and Daemons have indexes instead of Codexes. The model ranges dont really need anything added to them. As long as they get free rules support, which is what everyone has been asking for since forever anyway, I'm happy.

>>95942135

>>95942186
Except their model ranges are showing their age and are no longer being supported with potentially new miniatures for the sake of it. The last one we got was Belakor

>>95942253
>everything needs to be primarsified
I dont know what I expected

>>95942267
I"m personally excited for Primaeris Aeldar

>>95942267
You shouldn't expect much, anon. Modern GW fans are literal consumers first, and fans second. The idea that there won't be new products to spend their wagiebucks on means it's "dead" to them. This is purely about making buying kits you never build / critiquing ones you never buy your whole personality. This is the 2020s, things like making your own minis, kitbashing, homebrew rules and the like are completely foreign to them while they sit eagerly glued to their phones waiting for the next GW approved balance patch to their toy soldiers.

>>95942274
post a single painted kitbashed mid/oldhammer mini or a pre-2010 codex with a timestamp

New one here

>>95942285
>>95942285
>>95942285

Finally got done with highlights, no pics of final black rim but now in very close to having a fully painted 500 Dorf army. Its ofc mydudes with some lore and names.

>>95942267
I didn't say anything about primarisifying. I was referring to the fact that having no codex usually means no new models to release. Use the old horrors for all I care, but don't leave chaos daemons out of the fun.

>>95938042
>>95938042
One of the most famous soviet war movies is called "And dawns are silent here". All of older generation have seen it many times.

The film tells the story of a detachment of German saboteurs being discovered in the frontline zone. All the people are busy elsewhere and therefore, for lack of other options, 5 young women, who previously served as anti-aircraft gunners, are given to officer Fedot Vaskov to command. They're tasked to prevent Germans from accomplishing their mission. One of these women has a little son.

It is then discovered that the detachment of saboteurs is much larger than expected so preventing them from carrying out their planned sabotage is much much harder than expected. One of the girls is sent to the rear with a request for reinforcements. She drowns in a swamp. The other girls die in combat, but they still manage to thwart the enemy's plan.
At the end of the film, the only survivor, Fedot Vaskov, comes to the girls' grave. He adopted the son of one of them.

Throughout the film, it is repeatedly made clear that women fighting on the front line, even in conditions of a shortage of personnel, is an incredible, out-of-the-ordinary thing. When GW inserts women into every squad of Cadians, and in its content makes them the only survivors and most likely officers - this is the agenda of the globalists.

So you're right.

>>95943012
>40k is WW2
>because soviet war movie says so

Wtf do you even want to say Anon?

>>95943012
>>95943227
slav bitches are BUILT DIFFERENT

>>95943227
There was an argument above that it's not feminist agenda to put women into the frontline. I put an example that that's not true.