Space Leaks Edition

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-announcement-march-31-2025

>News
The 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM
>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)
>Previously
>>95950098

>TQ
What are your expectations for Edge of Eternity?

The Monoist look so much cooler than the Summist. Also Syr is now the universal gender neutral title for knights.

>>95957135 (OP)
>a warped creature you own in exile
Any indication what warped is supposed to be?

>"Leaks"
>All commons/uncommons
>Teases "warped creatures" without revealing what they are
Rename general marketing edition

>>95957189
Final Fantasy had a plot variant where you exile the card then cast it immediately next turn rather than waiting for the perfect moment.

I don't like this OP. making new soon, brb

I thought this art was already revealed but I had it confused with the black woman fighting of Monoist.

>>95957199
Considering a card is able to interact with it, it's clearly going to be something like Foretell and Plot. Pay a cost, put the creature in exile, it can then do something afterward.

>>95957135 (OP)
>That lander token
Shit, fuck off Farseek, I suppose.

REAL THREAD
This one was made by a thread splitting cromagnon.

>>95957067
>>95957067
>>95957067
>>95957067
>>95957067

>>95957265
At least we know the Empire is an Afrocentric Empire with white slaves.

>>95957298
This is currently the only Summist artwork that depicts white people.

>>95957293
OP's image is much more conductive to a discussion than the other one.

>>95957310
If they wanted to not split the threads like a giant cumguzzler, then maybe they should have made the thread? Instead of only baking it when the OP of the new thread hurt their crybaby fee fees?

Don't split the fucking threads, you shitstain.

>>95957307
Here is an Asian. The current racial hierarchy is
1.Africans as the religious majority
2.Asians as the elite minority.
3.Whites as the pagan servants converted yet not considered equal.

>category-Phi substance
>gives poison counters

Really subtle, Wizards. With Eldrazi teasing and Nicol Bolas breaking free, will anything ever be really gone? Maybe it'a better if the game goes full UB from now on.

>>95957293
>>95957310
Sorry Whiteschizoid as anon said this is actually real thread for discuss Magic.

>>95957326
NO ONE IS EVER REALLY GONE!

>>95957135 (OP)
Maybe this Station card is shit but i'm sure they will print one of this "vehicles" that will fuck formats

>>95957346
It will probably be the spacecraft that doesn't turn into a creature.

>>95957326
Eldrazis? FUCKING YES PLEASE!!! ELDRAZIS IN ALL FORMATS!!!!

>>95957346
The average "Station " cost appears to be around 7-10.
No fucking chance will any of these dead ass bricks see play anywhere.

>>95957346
i don't understand this station mechanic... isnt just a worse "crew"? i mean we already know from aetherdrift that vehicles are trash...

>>95957363

>>95957372
Yes, and?

>>95957162
>universal gender neutral

>>95957372
This seems better.

>>95957307
why are those girls pandering that supposed "warrior"?

>>95957363
Literally a mechanic designed for Commander.

>>95957363
I deploy my big ass/high power creature and if the payoff is enough then maybe could lead to some shit.

>>95957388
aren't all new mechanics designed with that demographic in mind?

>>95957363
If any see play it will be like battles where it is on the back of a powerful and cheap ETB effect and the creature part goes almost unused

>>95957366
1.It turns it into a creature permanently. Even if you remove a counter according to preview panel.
2.It can be quicken with proliferate and and cards that give charge counters.

>>95957399
Yes.

>>95957366
vehicles are just too much of a tempo loss right now when monored and izzet are raping you to death in the first few turns

>author blatantly steals the particle shooting through someone's head and they live 1 to 1 in the story

>>95957434
Red is dying monday.
Trust the plan.

>>95957457
>nonwhite problem cards get banned AFTER the RC’s and “pro” tour, ensuring the noses get their shekels
Tale as old as FIRE design

>>95957457
If we're lucky, they'll ban Monstrous Rage and Cori Steel Cutter, but I have no doubt the mouse package and Slickshot Show-Off will stay, leaving red's aggro strategy still viable.

>>95957477
>cards should be banned BEFORE they can affect the meta and their actual power can be seen in action
???????

>>95957346
>>95957363
You only need one card to be pushed for it to be playable, it's not like flurry is a super broken mechanic. There could be some shit like "Orbital Death Laser" that plague winds the board once it becomes a creature or something like that.

unban URO

>>95957522
UNBAN OKO
UNBAN URO
UNBAN PIC RELATED
IN A RED WORLD THERE SHOULD BE NO RULES

>>95957498
A plague wind would be absurd but a boardwipe all other creatures station would be fine I guess, since you'd have to build a board to station it and then explode it to bits to get one big creature.

>>95957532
Don't worry bro the sign of an unban just arrived

>>95957488
>cards should be allowed to warp the meta and NOT be banned until grinders win their shekels despite knowing the data proves it warps the meta
???????????????????????

Would Oko and Uro even be that good in Memedern nowadays

>>95957189
>>95957279
Where exactly did exile start being used as the mechanic whore zone? I know that FIRE brought a bunch of these with adventure, foretell etc but what was the original sin? Would that have been suspend?

>>95957560
Uro never was. Neither would see play. What is their win condition? Oko somehow turning Omniscience into a buck at instant speed? Board wiping all artifacts and 1 mana shitters?

>>95957567
Imprint in OG Mirrodin

>Hey design team, we're doing a space opera set! Totally untapped design space, completely new to Magic!

>What should we do four this fresh, innovative set!?

>"Vehicles, but worse!"
>"An artifact token that taps and sacrifices to do a thing!"
>"More Legendary creatures!"

If you wanna now which card to chase in Edge of Eternities, you should look at this chad.

>>95957189
>>95957199
from the little text we have on this uncommon, it's likely going to be very similar to plot, you pay a cost to exile the card, then you can cast it for free at a later time, I'm guessing at the start of the next turn because it says "beginning" and casting a card for less mana at the end step doesn't make much sense

the timing restriction of the start of your turn might make up for the fact you're likely paying less mana for something

>more restricted kicker or flashback
>landfall but with other card types
>set mechanic artifact token
>tap creatures with total power X to unga bunga

>>95957582
I hate this because Plot is already nearly perfect and has a ton of space left to explore. It is the only good thing to come out of OTJ at all.

>>95957582
So it's really suspend 1

And shortly after Duskmourn just had a suspend variant too

>>95957580
Whoah... mythic Trinket Mage...

i don't care about kavs, i don't care about insects, i don't care about weird humans, i don't care about jellyfishes, i don't even care about eldrazi just please... PLEASE make robots a thing.

I p1p1'd a Ragavan instead of an actual super bomb rare and it made my deck worse.
never had an opening hand with it

>>95957632
Yeah, Ragavan is nuts turn 1 but I'd rather have an average rare in my deck than him. He's underwhelming if not in your opener and you're committing to running 9 mountains which isn't exactly where you want to be in this format.

>>95957613
it's suspend 1 but you can leave it in exile for as long as you want, I assume, this way you can turn all of your "if you control a warped creature in exile" cards on

>>95957623
This is MTG btw. If you showed someone this image 5 years ago, they'd think it was a totally unrelated property. Now if you show someone a HearthStone card they'll probably be like "is that a magic card or a hs one?"

>>95957671
Wouldn't that just be plot?

>>95957697
Because we just had plot. Commander players want sets to be distinct.

>>95957689
Yeah, boomer! Robots are really out of place!!

>>95957697
plot lets you cast the spell whenever you want as long as it's sorcery speed
warp seems to be time restricted (I'm assuming), you can only cast it at the start of your turn, it could be start of upkeep, it could be start of main phase, idk

>>95957737
I often ponder how low an IQ you have to have to not be able to recognize the difference between purposeful design and lazy slop.

It must be a sad, sad, pathetic life to literally not be able to think.

>>95957757
>Not be able to think
>Not like me that decides what's Magic and what's not
You are a pathetic, sad and angry old man, brother, i really don't feel sorry for you though because soon you will leave.

>>95957780
kek
the brainlet's trying to act smart

>>95957757
lol these social media-raised kids who can only formulate opinions with words like "slop" are really out here accusing others of being "literally unable to think"

>>95957786
>Brainlet
You must look at a yourself, pathetic man.

>>95957811
Wow, what an unpredictable response. Truly a creative tour de force of intellect, you are.

>>95957811
kek you're a slop brainlet you literally can't even
wait mom no don't take away the ipad I'm busy DON'T

>>95957817
No need to be creative when you are here crying about some robots and what you consider "Fake Magic", pathetic man

>>95957818
>Slop slop
>Brainlet, brainlet
Keep your kids tantrum surely that will give you the attention your mother didnt.

eoe is gonna sell like shit isn't it

>>95957841
He's trying so hard.
Someone get him an ice cream cone for his efforts!

>>95957737
Protip: Invasion era machines are powered by sorcery and magic. EOE spaceships are powered by fusion reactors, lasers, etc.

And don't even bother with the "sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" line of rebuttal because you are supposed to take Magic worlds at face value. Urza's titans are powered by the life force of planeswalkers and Urza's / Phyrexia's machines have mystery and purpose to them. EOE just has flat-out spaceships, just because.

>>95957841
too much of a slop-loving brainlet to be a real intellectual like me who gets ipad time when he wants.
probably weren't even around 5 years ago for real oldschool magic without robots slop.

>>95957848
As far as hat sets go, it is a very fancy hat that people don't automatically despise. And, at the very least, it's not an obvious top-down product tie in shoehorn set like Clue at Hasbro Manor.

It may sell better than DFT based solely off its aesthetic not being totally repulsive insect piss. Not a high mark.

>>95957326
Story-wise, yes it's terrible. However, card-wise, I'd love to see Phyrexians make a come-back, or in the very least, some reprints. The set isn't even that old, but it's still ridiculously expensive

>>95957858
putting quality aside i can't imagine anything doing well when its release date is nested right in between final fantasy and spierman

>>95957867
>I'd love to see Phyrexians make a come-back,
Anon, they are deader than dead. Literally every Phyrexian in the entire multiverse is dead. They are canon dead. Norn sent out the sudoku signal. They're all dead, this is established in lore. Phyrexia has been totally, completely, utterly defeated in every plane across the entire multiverse, with zero survivors.

>>95957851
For too long, fantasy as a genre has existed.
But seriously, this guy gets it. Nosewater going full retard for his pet space set is vastly different than using sorcery to fuel the movement of cobbled artifice.
And we can have final fagassy ramen and cars and gun-swords and spidermans and airbenders but absolutely NO GUNS IT WOULD BREAK THE IMMERSION OF SWORD&SORCERY

>>95957557
Yes? How are you going to verify cards are actually warping the meta and not people being utter shitters until actual pros experiment with them in a tournament environment? People are currently bitching about Abuelo's Awakening, the most milquetoast reanimation card imaginable, because they don't want to bring hand disruption or interaction into their games. Should it be banned? Omniscience combo is 10% of the meta after all

>>95957874
Yeah being right after le big cash grab FOMO set is going to hurt any set. Won't help a set, at the very least.

>>95957877
Which is why I focused more on reprints than anything inthe post

>>95957851
>Urza's titans are powered by the life force of planeswalkers
no, the ones that ran on lifeforce were the soulbombs he wanted to use to nuke Phyrexia. the titans are just machines powered by the planeswalker's magic. if you had a sufficiently powerful source of energy like a large powerstone you could run the titan as well, it's just that a god has a lot of power to throw around.

>OP doesn't actually show anything interesting
What's the FUCKING POINT
NO RARE? NO MYTHIC? NO SHOWING NEW MECHANICS?
I HATE LEAKERS SO MUCH
TOTAL LEAKER DEATH

>>95957882
no guns is probably the decree of some utterly retarded business suit like the guys who censored all ninja weapons out of the TMNT, no other explanation

>>95957895
>until actual “pros” experiment with them in a tournament environment?
Retard, it doesn’t take a “pro” to see cutter was broken from the start. And Omni combo isn’t nearly as stupid as losing by turn 4 CONSISTENTLY from cutter and mice. Just admit you want to slurp your shekels like every other kike tourney grinder and accept the fact that JOTC always lets their grinders win shekels before banning anything so they can sell them before the market tanks the price. Same shit happened with every other FIRE ban. So stop being a facetious kike.

>>95957943
>Retard, it doesn’t take a “pro” to see cutter was broken from the start.
yeah, that's why people in this thread thought it was draft chaff. lol

>>95957934
It's astroturfed. Wizards is "leaking" cards to get people "excited" (But they did not get excited.)

>>95957325
>shamefuru dispray!

>>95957948
Because the retards in this general don’t actually play the game, it’s mostly investor bros trying to flip collector boxes of final fagassy.

>>95957954
If wizards was leaking cards to get people excited they'd leak a mythic. Maybe whatever is that black hole dragon

>>95957325
His arm is oddly perfectly positioned to hold a waifu body pillow in the right hand arm.

man drafting sucks a month into the set when every retard has been shown how to force a deck like UR spells here

>>95957977
Yeah it's almost as it's important for limited formats to be balanced so they don't stagnate into the one best archetype mirror matches.

>>95957960
>Because the retards in this general don’t actually play the game
I don't play the game, that's for sure
it's much more entertaining to watch the dumpster fire this game has become

>>95957737
That's not a robot, shill, but you are.

>>95957960
>Because the retards in this general don’t actually play the game,
Can confirm. I'm just here to watch retards cry while they swim in the WotC septic tank.

>>95957848
I mean look at it.

>>95957851
No you're right, but keep in mind you're arguing with propaganda bots. They know they're wrong and don't care. They're only programmed to defend company.

>>95957858
I automatically despise it. I think most people do, especially since it has the stink of what nosewater has been trying to do to this game for 20 years all over it.

>>95958008
>I automatically despise it. I think most people do, especially since it has the stink of what nosewater has been trying to do to this game for 20 years all over it.
Same. But, I also think it's aesthetic isn't just utterly repulsive on its face. It's repulsive to Magic players, sure, but it's not just blatantly shit on its face like MKM and DFT were.
That is, I don't think the aesthetic is so damaging it will cripple sales to the degree of MKM. It might sell reasonably.

>>95957867
Why? Hasn't JotC proven beyond any shadow of a doubt they can't do them justice? Just in the past years, these homos:

- Made a totally nonsensical plot about angel blood being immune to phyresis (but no angels for some reason)
- Turned the entire game into a dress up party
- Added marbul, FF and all kinds of funko slop to the mainstream rotation - give it a month and they'll be part of the fucking lore too
- Gone FULL TRANS
- Put goatse in every fucking set

Jesus christ, we all know there's a million more things but I'm not sitting here listing them all.

>>95957874
Retarded shill.

>>95957632
>never see Ragavan before turn 10
>declare him shit
>suddenly 6-2, final match
>curve is:
>turn 1 ragavan
>turn 2 shock your blocker, attack, get a treasure
>turn 3 seifer, attack with double striking ragavan
DESERVED

>>95958030
>- Put goatse in every fucking set
I mean, not EVERY set. Goatse wasn't in every set, some sets didn't have a goatse. And that's a crime.

>>95957877
>sudoku signal
Small chuckle.

>>95957895
>Um, we actually didn't realize the 1 drop with 3 abilities was overpowered
>Um, we didn't know casting omniscience for free almost at the beginning of the game would be an issue
>Um, we didn't realize there would be THIS many infinite combos right in standard
Okay retard.

I'm still not buying Final Fantasy or Spider-Man or ATLA or any UB set. EVER.

Stop calling it goatse.
It's not goatse unless the hand has a wedding ring.
Without the wedding ring it's just a regular old gaping anus. Get it right.

>>95958059
Excuse me, 1 drop with 1/2 p/t and two abilities.

>>95957135 (OP)
>poison counters
Oh fuck off, Maro.

>>95957914
Powerstones are literally magic, dumb-dumb. That's why they caused phthisis and that's how Yawgmoth cured the disease by blocking mana absorption.

>>95958060
Only Shills and scalpers coonsom such slop, just look at the prices of FF is clearly all a big scam

>>95958075
>We fuelled are Ford F150 with Gasoline from Gastal
>But it's MAGIC gasoline OOoooOOOoOOOOoo
ok bud

>>95957948
They didn't. As you have been constantly reminded, those are planted bots. They do it every new set. They've been already starting their shit with the new Tezzeret from Edging for Eternity, even though we all clearly know they're wrong and full of shit.

>>95957988
FF is surprisingly one of the most balanced Limited sets ever for colour pair balance. that's not the problem here at all.
the issues are
1) data is more accessible than ever, making things get figured out faster
and that drafting is now mainly done on arena where
2a) half the people in your pod have no idea what they are doing, making it easy to farm force decks off them
2b) you don't play against your pod, so at higher rank most people were also able to force whatever strong archetype they wanted

>>95957366
Because the station stays a creature it's closer to convoke.
Something like 3 mana station search for 7 power lego, next turn play 7 power lego tap for a 5/5 is decent tempo-wise.

Of course convoke was good because it allowed for free spells but then we haven't seen mana rates on all stations yet.

>>95958079
how old are you?

>>95957960
Nobody plays this game anymore. You're right though, it's mostly just snotty investors that are still interested at all because that's the crowed JotC cultivated. Nobody actually plays the fucking game anymore. Why the hell would they?

>>95957961
No they wouldn't because of greed. You have to understand, the capitalist mind doesn't operate like a normal, functional mind. By their "logic" leaking a rare is "too good for you peasants".

>>95958017
No, they actually had the artists spend more than 15 minutes making the cards. That doesn't make any of this fucking drek good. It just highlights how sloppy they've been lately.

>>95958042
Tranny detected.

>>95958083
What the fuck does any of this nuslop have to do with MTG? You could make an excellent argument that nothing but Bloomburrow and possibly Dragonstorm in the past year are even Magic products.

>>95958091
The problem is nobody wants it, despite the barrage of propaganda saying "YOU WANT SLOP! EVERYONE IS BUYING SLOP! YOU BUY SLOP NOW!!"

>>95958128
>You could make an excellent argument that nothing but Bloomburrow and possibly Dragonstorm in the past year are even Magic products.
Dragonstorm was a Warcraft product so nope to that.

FF is made for a customer that is not a real Magic The Gathering player customer, maybe a Commander customer but that's neither a true Magic customer, and the fact they will add more and more external IPs sets will drive away any resembling real playerbase of this game until constructed remains only as whale format like Modern or weird non supported formats like Premodern.

>>95958135
an unprompted social media meltdown?
how shocking

>>95957135 (OP)
>Enchantment Creature - Saga Dragon
why does this series of words repulse me?

>>95958135
Is this a bot?

>>95958190
Saga creatures ended up being great; they're like a fixed version of planeswalkers.
one of the best parts about UB sets is that they don't have planeswalkers (good, fuck planeswalkers).

>>95958212
So far

>>95957580
Treasures and set mechanic artifact tokens were a mistake.

>>95958198
half of all posts on this website sound like the same angry teenagers trying to echo each others opinions to fit in.
maybe it's AI. not sure what would be worse.

>>95958158
I have been a Magic customer for 20 years now and I appreciate Final Fantasy as a set. It had some very enjoyable ideas for the game.
Of course, I share your distaste for Spider-Man, Avatar, and likely whatever else they're going to stir in.
Final Fantasy is just an appropriate and enjoyable exception that happens to be placed first in the queue.

>>95958271
>my slop is good
You're such a faggot.

hope we get UB Aqua Teen Hunger Force

>>95958289
Not before UB WWE.

>>95958271
>I have been a Magic customer for 20 years now and I appreciate Final Fantasy as a set.
This is the kind of statement that shows you never cared about Magic at all.

>>95957435
>anon’s never heard of Phineas Gage

>>95958324
I've cared about Magic much more and much longer than you, child.

>>95958355
Provably false statement. UB is the negation of MTG. If you appreciate UB, you do not care about Magic.
A thing cannot be not itself. This is one of the most basic rules of logic.

>>95958400
Adding to a set does not alter what was previously within that set. Basic rule of set theory.

>>95958417
Attempting to add something that is outside the confines of the set requires you to alter the set's parameters.
If you support UB, you are an advocate for the destruction of Magic.

>>95958417
>Adding to a set does not alter what was previously within that set.
... but it alters the set, anon.
My guy over here claiming that adding an orange to a set of all apples is fine. That's some dumb ass shit, bucko.

>>95958432
>Attempting to add something that is outside the confines of the set requires you to alter the set's parameters.
In other words, every single set of Magic alters Magic. This is not new information, and has been going on since Arabian Nights.
>If you support UB, you are an advocate for the destruction of Magic.
Does not follow, sorry. Go back to using "slop" as your only word instead of trying to doomsay. At least I have that filtered.

>>95958450
The set has been under constant alteration since it left Unlimited, anon.

>>95958450
>In other words, every single set of Magic alters Magic
... no? That is some balls deep faulty logic. To claim that is basically to state you do not know what the word "canon" means, and are not able to identify the forth wall barriers between any two IPs.
Absolutely insane stuff.

>>95958469
>>95958451
Damn son, your post was so bad I subconsciously refused to reply to it.
You should be embarrassed.

>>95958469
Canonicity is not the subject in question, here. We are talking about the contents of a set.

>>95958451
You will never be a true Magic player, accept you are just a corporate drone that will chase after his next "favourite IP" without a care if fits Magic or not or if is good or not.

You are already the same disease as Commander players. Hell maybe you are even one.

>>95958483
And you will forever be trapped in your misery until the day you get the fuck out of my thread.

>>95958480
Cultivating a new breed of apple does not alter a set of all apples.
Introducing an orange does.
Your logic is awful and you should feel bad.

>>95958491
It has never been a set pure of apples. Arabian Nights alone forced Magic to accept the contexts of fucking arabian mythology. And the concept of Arabia. From its very first expansion set, we have been saddled with Aladdin.

>>95958488
>My thread
What?

>>95957135 (OP)
Mono Black incoming in standard

>>95958505
>It has never been a set pure of apples. Arabian Nights alone forced Magic to accept the contexts of fucking arabian mythology. And the concept of Arabia. From its very first expansion set, we have been saddled with Aladdin.
Excuses and whataboutism. Excuses for the sake of defending WotC shitfuckery.
You're not convincing anybody, shill.

>>95958526
Deflection and cowardice and a retreat to anti-intellectualism. Don't bring up basic rules of logic next time, disingenuous snake.

>>95958586
>Deflection and cowardice and a retreat to anti-intellectualism.
Wow I don't care. Go shill bad ideas somewhere else.

When will direction change for this game? Whether it’s design, art, etc. Will it take rosewater to die or retire? Or do people have to basically infiltrate and work at WOTC in order to slowly change it from within?

>>95958596
It won't. 100% of the staff other than MaRo joined the team post-2019. Over half of the current joined post-2022.
WotC hires based on passion, not skill, not experience and not talent. These will be the senior design leads of the future.

Say what you want about MaRo, he's at least competent in an abstract kind of sense. When he leaves, the real septic floodgates will break.

>>95958596
Decoupling Wotc from Hasbro.

>>95958593
If you don't care you'd stop posting and get outta my thread.

>>95958628
You misinterpreting what I don't care about is hilarious and suggests you are dumb.

>>95958505
>we made our own version from outside influence so making a copy without our own flair is ok!
did you make this image

>>95958634
Your inability to recognize that I'm just blatantly insulting you is honestly quite depressing, makes me feel like my efforts are wasted.

>>95958648
No, but it's a good image.

>>95958655
Good. Your effort is wasted. Your shilling based on false pretences convinces nobody.

>>95958670
Go back to using slop as your keyword, please. Shill is much more pathetic, the idea that everyone who disagrees with you must be paid to do so is schizophrenic.

>>95958660
thanks, I made it solely to weed out idiots who think arabian nights = UB

>>95958704
The slop shill shills slop then copes and seethes about people calling it out.

>>95958710
the incorrect unix timestamp filename implies otherwise

imagine how good Standard would have to be for this to be a good card in the meta

>>95958725
prove how that is relevant

>>95958723
which arena format do you play?
they have some extremely mentally ill kids who talk exactly like this

>>95958743
>arena
This is /tg/ anon, did you forget where you are?

>>95958738
means you didn't make the image, m8

>>95958731
Hard to imagine any other standard cards doing well when 62% of the meta is mice and prowess (79% aggro).

>>95958743
Don't engage with kafkatraps anon, better to let them scream into the void.

>>95958059
>>Um, we actually didn't realize the 1 drop with 3 abilities was overpowered
that doesn't make a card inerently broken no. see pic related
>>Um, we didn't know casting omniscience for free almost at the beginning of the game would be an issue
and it isn't. bring hand interaction to the game you lazy fuck
>>Um, we didn't realize there would be THIS many infinite combos right in standard
there literally isn't a single playable infinite combo on standard right now

>>95958769
who in their right mind saves their memes on a hard drives in the year 2000+20 fucking 5

four more nights and standard is fixed

>>95958818
We use SSDs now friend.

>>95958842
yes, and it's still irrelevant. the image works and that's that
every time I see someone post it I laugh at their logic and the inability to differentiate between adaptation and collaboration

There is no argument that can validate the existence of fucking space vehicles and laser guns and space suits and expect someone to believe you when you tell them “Yeah and this is all in a game called MAGIC the Gathering”

>>95958822
Lol

I for one cannot WAIT for standard legal eldrazi
I'm so fucking ready for the winter

>>95958822
my guy there will be no changes, rotation is happening in less than 2 months

>>95958955
It's space magic, like Star Wars.

>>95958400
This is correct.

>>95958417
And this is a fucking transparent shill. You are NOT one of us. We will replace you.

>>95958801
That's pretty fucking broken. You're so used to powercreep you literally can't even recognize it anymore.

I'm super late on this recap, but I don't owe any of you anything. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/edge-of-eternities-episode-4
>We're back to Alph, having stopped screaming, now learning the names of the people with him
>An old lady, Simma, who's fully confident in what she's about to do
>Nagashua, whose best friend (a robot) has forgotten her, and she doesn't want to live anymore
>Zagachoir, a dude who's just thrilled to get to paradise
>And Purael, who thinks the Next Eternity has a lot of castoffs the Monoists don't care about and is going there to cull the shitty ones from paradise
>Purael and Simma argue somewhat with Alph about him not seeming ready
>Zagachoir reassures him that he'll see his sister soon
>Then they all pray, and then they hit their target
>They collide, their device halting the impact for about ten minutes before it'll resume again, somehow
>Zagachoir falls nearly immediately to some mines as they swarm out
>Because he doesn't want to just die, he takes sehkar, but he can't give the command with his armor busted, so he needs Alph's help
>He does, and Zag implodes into a black hole, and blasts a hole through the Dawnsire's hull
>Purael and Simma are acquainting themselves well, Nagashua gets stabbed through the heart
>Then, before Alph can even do much, this first fight is over
>One of the unnamed volunteers takes sehkar to blow open a hole in the door to the next area, a basilica for the Summist faith
>Simma says she's going to kill a Sunstar knight, Alph says he's coming with
>And then he gets shot
>Cut to Haliya and Vondam, heading towards where the fight is going
>There's a mention of hawking radiation, which has a footnote explaining that it's called that because of squadron hawks, which is funny
>Haliya is terrified she is going to die, and knows Vondam is going to
>Him and another knight discuss what to do as they approach, then basically decide to fire through the deck at them

>>95957135 (OP)
WotC are a bunch of creativity bankrupt bastards.

Station is retarded. "Tap the creature to add counters" that is retarded, should just be tap and remain tapped to add "work power" would be better.

Also they should have done something like "Battle - planet" in this set: players can after a combat phase allocate or remove creatures with flying or vehicles/spaceships from a battle - planet. The player with most power allocated to a battle planet gets benefit at the end of turn. And in combat creatures allocated to it can attack others that are also allocated to it.

There, the set would be way better, not even having to change the fucking retarded art direction.

>>95959122
>I'm super late on this recap, but I don't owe any of you anything.
The story is absolute shit, so thank you for being late and saving me from this garbage for a while longer.

Also, muchos gracias for the recaps. You're alright.

>>95957298
>>95957307
>>95957325
>>95957582
>>95957623
>Say again, white boy, say that woke can't do scyfy right!
Yes, woke can't do good fiction.

>even fucking draft is commander now
lol


LMAO

>>95959161
They tried to do this with Commander Legends and it FUCKING. SUCKED. ASS.
Glad they're bringing it back so people can be reminded just how bad WotC is at everything.

>>95957851
Actually its a moxite reactor.

>>95959176
at least every other card in that set was a legend. now, with a standard set (where the amount of legends is actually going down!) it will absolutely be so, so shit

>>95959122
>But then the Monoists start to collapse the deck from underneath
>And as it starts to fall, Haliya tries to promise that before they get to Vondam, they'll have to go through her
>And she falls before she can finish that
>She channels as much as she can to Vondam as she falls before she lands, painfully, in a bathhouse tank, and then more metal falls on her from above
>Her armor stops her being impaled, but doesn't stop the internal bleeding from blunt force trauma
>She cuts her way out of the tank, even so, trying to find Vondam, but only finds an enemy
>The Monoist attacks her, she brings her weapon up and fires, but it's covered in too much shit and explodes, knocking her back, and the enemy falls towards her, about to take her life
>Cut to Alph, who's been shot by Vondam's blasts from earlier, though he's saved by some quick thinking ally who throws a jar of something that turns into a weird doughy mass
>The lasers don't quite impale him, but he's still being aimed at, until Simma collapses the roof
>Alph internally debates on if he actually is there to KILL anybody, or just to die, but decides that he's at least there to die usefully and resolves to be bait
>He shouts out a taunt to the knights above, even as his armor overheats from the blasts it DID take, and he heads towards the nearby bathhouse to try and find a heatsink
>He finds what he assumes is a dead Summist, who then shoots him, but doesn't hit, their weapon exploding, but his own weapon backfires and throws debris into his own face and he falls too, right onto the enemy's weapon
>Back to Haliya, panicking as the enemy falls onto her, so she switches her weapon to axe-mode, and it cuts through the armor, but he grabs her, gravitationally fucking with her brain to give her a concussion
>But her body's been trained to fight regardless, so she shoves her weapon into his armor and fires

>>95958596
This is going to be an eye-opening year for WotC / Hasbro. They will go from the success of FIN to the absolute abyss of Spider-Man and Avatar.
Sadly, they operate about two years behind, so expect this trend-chasing to last a while longer.

>>95959161
I will be honest here: If there wasn't the commander color identity rule I think this would be a really good idea: Let players draft and then pick one legendary creature to be their deck leader (As now you get a legendary creature in every 2 packs it would be quite easy to set up).
But from what it says you have to fucking buy a whole box to do it. So, no, it is fucking trash.

>>95959117
>anon ignores the fact that the card has never seen play anywhere, in any format, not even in TDM limited

>>95959218
>>anon ignores the fact that the card has never seen play anywhere
anon it was 1 win away from top8ing the last PT.

>>95957877
Norn's phyrexian aren't the only phyrexian. New Cappenna is a plane with one nonphyrexian city and the rest is filled with old world phyrexian.

>>95959234
And that deck would have played Llanowar Elves instead of the Sniper it if they were legal. You know, a one drop that actually has an impact (but still has a totally fine power level).

>>95959203
>Back to Alph, grabbing his enemy's head and fucking with it gravitationally, and then something hits him hard in the chest
>His armor starts to fail, and the arrival of a knight makes things worse for him as he's knocked flat by a blast of light
>Alph knows he should just take sekhar and go, but he can't bring himself to do it
>The knight addresses him, introducing himself as Vondam, saying he accepts Alph's prior challenge, but he's interrupted by Simma jumping him
>Alph can tell she's going to stick a mine on his head and blow him up, but Vondam's too clever to fall for that old trick, and they get into a sort of standoff
>Alph tries to get himself to do SOMETHING, ANYTHING, to help, but he can't bring himself to get up, can't bring himself to take sekhar, because his faith is crumbling
>The squire he was fighting grabs at his ankle and he kicks her in the face and they have a decidedly less cool fight than the old lady and the knight
>Alph can only wonder at how she is so determined to live, how she can't just accept it
>Cut to Haliya, certain that Vondam's enemy is losing this fight
>So all she has to do is hold back the OTHER one, despite her possible brain damage
>Vondam kills the old lady, and then approachs the fallen Monoist, who's starting to say he's going to live, and Vondam says they can help him live if her surrenders
>Vondam extends a hand to him, despite Haliya's internal panic
>The fallen Monoist has picked up his sekhar bead... And he throws it at Vondam as it activates, taking his hand away with it
>And it goes right through Vondam's head
>The narrator interrupts, to ask if Alph is deserving of mercy, as all he wants is to live
>Choosing no mercy and the narrator goes "Well that's disappointing", because without Alph, the narrator will be taken, and it's a dead-end
>Choosing mercy, and we go back to Alph, collapsing in shock that he actually killed a Solar Knight

>>95959249
>Llanowar Elves
It's here for the next 4 years.

>>95959278
Christ, forgot about that. Foundations is like 700 cards.

>>95959218
It saw play in most of the green decks, few of them as there were, that showed up at the pro tour.
>And that deck would have played Llanowar Elves instead of the Sniper it if they were legal
It is legal and no they wouldn’t have.

>>95958710
Technically Arabian Nights is universe within since the plane of Rabiah is 1001 worlds of similar people. Aladdin isn't legendary since there are 1001 Aladdin's with slight differences.

>>95959270
>And then he runs. He wants to get back to the monastery, to tell people of this, thinking that maybe THIS is why he didn't take sekhar, so this could be his destiny
>Before he can escape, he runs face-first into another knight, who immediately brings him low
>It's the other knight that was with Vondam, asking his squire if there's anybody who can save Alph, because he wants a prisoner, but there's only four minutes until the event horizon collapses and the delayed impact splatters him
>He loses consciousness, then wakes up, being asked by a light who he is
>The light introduces himself as Slats, the Captain of the Dawnsire
>Alph asks why he's there, Slats says he wants to know why Alph killed his friend
>Alph says it was war, Slats says it was for everybody else there, but Alph clearly wasn't fighting a war
>Alph says his sister is in Sothera, the Summists reigniting it would undo her sacrifice
>Slats asks why he didn't take sekhar, then, if he wanted to see her again
>He can only say because he wants to live, and he begs Slats to not burn him out, because he wants it to be HIM that lives, not what they'd turn him into
>Slats tells him to prove that he wants to live
>All Alph can do is confusedly talk about how he's a coward, refusing so many chances to fall
>Slats goes "Alright, I sentence you to live"
>Slats basically says Vondam died to give Alph this chance, and tells him to go find a ship inside that event horizon and take it, to counteract the impact he's due in a few minutes
>He thinks it must be a trick, but despite it all, he wants to just live, so he takes the chance and runs
>Somebody's following him, but he doesn't care, he gets to the nearest ship, which opens automatically because of the captain's work
>He demands the ship to get him out of there with only thirty seconds to go

>>95959333
>But the fighter demands a passkey, which he doesn't have, and then a voice outside, a woman's voice, screams to abort the launch, using said passkey, and he screams to START the launch, using said passkey, and the fighter goes "you just copied her"
>It then goes "Well, guess the captain has to resolve this"
>Fifteen seconds left
>The fighter starts to move
>He asks the ship's viy if he's going to die, it says probably
>And then it crystallises him to keep him safe as it's launched
>Cut to Haliya, broken and furious, having just seen Alph flee, and she couldn't do anything about that
>The other knight's squire approaches her, telling her to come with her, she has something to show Haliya
>And it's Vondam, alive and well, the black hole having gone through his head, right by the side of his nose and out the back of his skull
>He's alive, surprisingly, and the captain appears to explain that he saw a moment that very much LOOKED like Vondam dying, but he didn't actually see his death properly as such
>All Haliya can do is throw up in shock
>Eventually Haliya informs him that Vondam's would-be killer got away, and Vondam asks HOW that even happened, but the captain goes "He's not a Monoist anymore, he's learning to live", and Vondam says that's surprisingly naive, but Slats says that's why they need the Sum
>Haliya and Vondam should BOTH go see a medic, but instead they're attending victory celebrations
>During this, Vondam explains that he thinks there was something engineering that whole outcome, something that made it all 'inevitable', something that wants Alph alive
>Vondam says they'll go after him after they're healed up
>Vondam also briefly mourns the Haliya that might have been had he actually died, had she been tempered by loss
>Cut to an area deep in the Dawnsire, where the weapons are charged via a positive feedback loop of energy created by shooting themselves in the ass

>>95959453
>They're firing upon Susuri Secundi, trying to map out its defense
>Then they land a hit on a floating monastery, signalling yet another major thing in the war to everybody in the Sothera system who can see it
>And none of them see the fighter speeding away from the Dawnsire at the same time

As a side note, I am still LIKING this story, but it's got a lot of 'hard-to-parse' moments because they use a lot of jargon that you just kind of have to accept exists and don't really know the full details of. The core of it's handled well enough, I do really like how different the two POVs are here.

>>95959161
I hope they aren't planning on doing this instead of sealed for prerelease.

>>95959161
>from the contents of a play booster box
what the fuck why are they trying to bring this shit to lgses? who's gonna spend ~$100 for a few weeks of league?

>>95959161
That’s sealed, not draft. The way you draft commander is to draft a different set every day for a week and the cards that you’ve drafted over the course of that week become the cardpool to build your deck.

>>95959511
propably to justify the discontinuation of 'em. saying something like
>not enough people attended the event and thus must not like play boosters all the while collectors are selling out constantly
like the cannibalization of draft vs set boosters but now the game will only have collectors, effectively rising the prices of boosters yet again

>>95959511
I've spent more for a weekend of drinking.

>>95959668
drinking is not a 13+ hobby

>>95959668
At any time during that weekend of partying did you stop and think "Wow I really want to go through 420 cards to see if I can shit out a deck for one of the legendaries I maybe pulled"

>>95958297
knowing that i'd unironically play the shit out of that makes me realize i could easily be part of the problem that i hate

Kor Fireblocker {WW}
Creature - Kor (R)
First strike, lifelink, protection from red.
Triggered abilities of red sources don't trigger.
2/1

>saves your meta

>>95959791
AND HIS NAME IS JACE CENAAAAAA

imagine
all those wwe divas
but their tits censored

>>95959800
I'm still mad that WotC managed to somehow hide Lulu's tits. She is on two cards and one is an angle where you can't see anything and the second is just blatant use of photo tools to expand the fur lining of her dress over the cleavage.

It makes no sense, though because Ultimecia, Beatrix and everyone else gets to have their cleavage out.

There has never been a better tine to print cards with the Space: the Convergence frame.
So of course, they won't. Not even a SLD.

>>95959844
Well, it looks like crap, so no loss.

>>95958278
I mean, compare that with this. Until they go back to pre-Jacetice League aesthetic and writing, you cant ride on your high horse and call other things slop

>>95959881
I don't see anything wrong with this.

>>95959835
Lulu's artist only has 2 cards made. Meanwhile, look at Beatrix and Ulti's artist and its the typical artstation house artstyle with the occasional anime girl

IT'S HAPPENING. AGGRO APPROACHING 80%.

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>Edge of Eterniggty is more cuckery of the skin and magic color white with spaceships and laser beams
>the only other sets this year are UB slop
Think I’m done for the rest of the year. I can wait for next year when they butcher Lorwyn.

>>95958524
This is just a shitty gravepact that fucks over Sephiroth.

>>95959941
They/Them Changelings.

>>95959914
Spell pierce + into the flood maw + town ain't big enough was a huge fucking mistake
That's what's going on here

You can't control UR aggro because the only interactions possible are cucked by the blue disruption package
What, are you going to tap out on turn 3 to play a temporary lockdown? LMAO

Would a duel color land that enters untapped but doesn't have land subtypes be broken? People say fetches are stronger than original dual lands, so wouls an original dual land that can't be fetched be something that could reasonably be printed?

>>95958075
And the EOE things are powered by moxen, which are also magic.

>>95960099
so powercreeping fastlands, checklands, verges, etc?

>>95960099
They're not going to do that, at least not for the forseeable future. It would immediately obsolete almost every dual and every deck would run full playsets. Color restrictions wouldn't matter, even less than now.

>>95960099
>Would a dual color land that enters untapped but doesn't have land subtypes be broken?
We already have these. They just have a condition to come into play untapped. The scars lands are already that.
> People say fetches are stronger than original dual lands
Fetches are stronger because you improve the odds of drawing non-lands which is important in order to have answers.
>>95960148
>It would immediately obsolete almost every dual
It wouldn't. It would just be another land in place of a basic in an RG deck. Moreover shock lands and the true dual lands still have an advantage because they can be fetched.
>Color restrictions wouldn't matter
3-color decks before cutter took over were doing virtually the same thing with pain lands in standard. Legacy for decade has been ruled by 2-3 decks with access to both shock and dual lands. Really very few four or more color decks in all formats.

There's a great advantage to having fewer colors. Fewer colors means less color problems due to probability. Monocolor will never have that problem unless you have too many colorless lands.

It would change very little.

>>95957737
Old MTG did robots better than nu-MTG too.

>>95960148
It definitely wouldn't happen in standard, obviously, but what about a masters or mh set?
>>95960146
You say powercreep but more powerful lands already exist. I'm definitely not suggesting that it would be a good idea to bring out in standard or pioneer, but I can't see it being broken in formats with fetch lands.

>>95957737
I love when shills bring up Power Armor as if magitech Mechwarrior fighting steel dragons wasn't the coolest shit ever, while "Gundams, but they're piloted by gay people and we don't explain it" is, in contrast, very much not.

>>95959793
Oy vey goyim, that’s a TALL ASK

>>95959793
You forgot vigilance and red in its mana cost.

>R
>Creature - Lizard Mouse
>1/6
>Haste, prowess
>Nonred spells cost R more to cast.

Rate my cool monster idea.

>>95958725
>what is a filename randomizer

Monkhunter Mouse {R}
Creature - Mouse (Rare)
Protection from white
Whenever a creature you control leaves the battlefield during a phase other than combat, it deals damage equal to its power to any target.
You may cast Monkhunter Mouse from exile if it was exiled by a spell or ability you don't control.
2/1

>Blo Bley Flizards, how’s it going?
>……Bluht?…Blut do you mean MORE schlopp?
>Bbbblut Bloomburrble and Bleldraine and Blarkir did so WELL and-
>…..bley had original blories and charactblers….
>Blokay…..blokay…..I underspland….
>Right…Blandard is Blourishing…
>Goodbly…
>……..*cries*….

>>95960915

I can solve the entire standard format in a single card. Maybe 2 different versions of it so you can run 8 in a deck
No memes, bullshit, contrived answers

Its simple, fog.
Moment's peace specifically would be ideal since it has 2 uses.
80% of the format is haste aggro that grinds advantage every turn. You can't trade 1:1 with it, you can't sweep it, you just fucking lose if you try to play control.
You know what's insulting? the only halfway playable fog in standard right now costs as much as wrath of fucking god

not gonna lie, I would actually play paper standard to get this promo

>>95961026
Just print your own waifu paper and jork it like every other weeb

>>95958710
>arabian nights = UB
That's true though.

>>95957135 (OP)
Charges, officer?

>>95961401
Cool

>>95961401
>Charges, officer?
Two card fourteen mana combo that doesn't win you the game

>>95961526
This. It's an interesting interaction if you can cheat it out, but I can shut it down with WW2. Just boardwipe them lmao.

>>95961536
Sorry, not WW2, it's gotta be exile, so like Sunfall for WW3.

As a combo player, is it better to have multiple redundant copies of each piece of your combo so you have a higher chance to hit them, or to load your deck with more draw/dig spells and some interaction?

ex
omniscience in standard takes abuelos+omniscience as a 2 card combo. Don't find both pieces, can't combo off. Get interrupted once somehow, and your combo fizzles and you're much less likely to draw a 2nd copy of a 4-of.
but it COULD be playing redundant, not-quite-interchangeable pieces that can still set off the combo depending on sequence
>one with the multiverse
>repair and recharge
>builder's talent
etc

You discard one with the multiverse and draw into omniscience, and even if they have an uncounterable killspell or you don't have an extra counterspell, you can just play omni from hand and let multiverse die. Or if you couldn't find it, it can look at the top of your library, it can let you dig for more action and they need to stop it while it gives a free spell right away to dig for more action.

All 2 card combos have an inherent limitation of finding the pieces. You have only a ~15% chance in the topdecks on curve to find it before mulligans and draw spells. But if you have 8 reanimate spells and 8-12 discard targets, you almost never whiff

>>95961526
>attacking with a big creature can't win the game
The left is a coomander card BTW. Purposely designed for Coomander like the rest of the set.

>>95961575
The more combo pieces you put in, the fewer cards you have that will deal with the cutter deck or mice in your main-board.

>>95961596
how many cards do you really run that deal with mice in such a deck
lockdown + dispersal is pretty much it

The other option is you just try to outrace them with a faster combo setup

>>95961616
There's also the dig so you can get out a creature you can play with the combo and some cheap dig creatures like archeologist and oracle that can at least block a little bit of the damage. Cutter only gives on creature trample so it's either cutter has to draw burn or get slowed down by a creature. Let's face it, Invasion with Omniscience is dead. It's not being ran any more because getting two big dragons into play to bounce everything you don't like is the way to go. And then there's scrollshift to make it so you can attack with overlord.

Hedging your bets on having 16 combo pieces or even 12 in this format is a mistake. We're not talking about classic reanimator where you just discard a big creature with bog imp and reanimate it turn 1 or turn 2 to win the game. You actually have to have something that will win the game in hand. Omniscience by itself does not win the game. The 3+ card combo (yes, you need a third card in order to get omniscience in the graveyard and all reanimator decks are at least THREE card combos unless you draw first and don't drop a land) having redundant copies is a BAD idea, especially if they are redundant with Omniscience. It only allows you to get out a bunch of shit turn 4 if you're lucky.

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Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home...

>>95961699
I coming...

>>95961701
Based Psychatog player.

>>95957135 (OP)
>control target player
>"I concede"

>>95961671
And yet, you can get around all that cutter nonsense by just running a shell that wins on turn 3
The benefit of running a deck with all that redundancy- mass ways to draw/discard, multiple targets to reanimate, multiple ways to reanimate- is that it can serve as the looped wincon and way to pop off, just the same as marang on archaeologist

Look at The World Spell
If you reanimate it on turn 4, you can put omniscience from your hand into play. Or if you have omni, it digs 7 cards deep. If it finds marang, marang bounces the world spell, which digs another 7 cards deep. With 2x marang, it deterministically gets every card in your deck same as the other options, except its digging 7 cards deep to find the first 2 marangs. But whats better is, if its in your graveyard, it turns another reanimate spell in hand into dig 7 cards deep. That's why its useful: Its NOT redundant copies once you have omniscience out, its redundant ways to start the combo that also serve as extra dig spells to pop off once the combo is in action.

Invasion omniscience is unnecessary because the marang loop can win with just about anything, even just 4x marangs and a counterspell in hand. Its an unnecessary dead card in deck. But the difference I'm talking about isn't wincons

I play island and pass my turn

>>95961026
I still think they missed out hard not giving us a "Whatever." emote in Arena, that would have been so funny.

>>95957307
>You like that? WERE the masters now!
No better than slave owners.

>>95961699
Dont know what decks i want to play. Ponza seems fun, Other then that not sure. UW standstill? Elves? 8-rack?

>>95961944
Mono Black Control!

>>95961944
Does premodern have Kavu Predator? Try out reverse burn.

>>95961395
bait

>>95958596
Maro hasn lost a lot of power and influence since they restructred the dev process years ago. Besides the fact that he leads less than a third of magic product, Vision design is a smaller part of design than ever before.

>>95961944
>Tournament decks with easy decision making
Sligh
BW Control
B Control that isn't Contamination (Pit Rack)
Machine Head
>Tournament decks with easy decision making and lots of choices while playing
Goblins
Most Survival decks
Madness
Landstill
>Tournament decks that are easy decision making except for one or two important parts that you can't fuck up
Terrageddon
Pitless Rack
>Tournament decks with hard decision making
Tireless Tribe
The Rock
Contamination
>Tournament decks with hard decision making and lots of choices while playing
Enchantress
Replenish
Elves
FEB and other Hermit Druid decks
>Xerox decks that are easy for Xerox players and hard for everyone else
Stiflenought
Stasis
Tin Fins
Gro-a-tog
>Bad deck that wins tournaments when people don't prepare for it but truly is a dogshit deck
Tinker Fling
>Tournament dark horse with hard decision making and lots of choices while playing that players would be better off learning another deck
Psychatog
Clerics
>Bad tournament deck with hard decision making and lots of choices
Frantic Storm
>Very enjoyable fringe tournament decks
Astral Slide
Threshold
Fires of Yavimaya
10 Land Stompy
The Solution
Aluren
Draco Blast
MUD
Dredge At Home/Zombie Spark
Dumptruck/Finkula
Turbolands
Slivers
>The fairest fair deck of them all
White Weenies
>Meme decks
Ponza besides Ponza Oath
Doomsday
Anything running Ill Gotten Gains
Dragonstorm
Anything Zoo

>Extremely fun underrated deck that is surprisingly versatile
Big Red/Raging Glaciers (mono R control)

>>95962404
>Dredge At Home/Zombie Spark
>Dumptruck/Finkula
What are these and how would you categorize Deadguy Ale?

>>95962338
Clearly not true since the entire game is becoming the acorn universe + mirrodin bullshit.

should I go try to 2-0 this draft event for a free promo pack?

>>95962426
Dredge At Home and Zombie Spark are two versions of a similar idea. You use Zombie Infestation alongside creature cards that return themselves to the hand to continue to dump zombies turn over turn. Dredge At Home utilizes Ichorid, while Zombie Spark has a red splash for Death Spark as a mana sink. The creatures that return turn over turn are Squee Goblin Nabob, Ashen Ghoul, Krovikan Horror, and Nether Shadow. Similar to Dredge, these decks normally have pretty good game 1s and significantly more uphill game 2 and 3 as graveyard hate comes in
Dumptruck/Finkula is an esper midrange deck that seeks to play high quality cards and usually grind out with a card advantage engine. Shadowmage Infiltrator is the namesake (Jon Finkel pro card) that draws and is evasive. Sometimes you also see Hypnotic Specter do this role too. It runs high quality interaction via Duress and Vindicate and Swords, and usually a couple counterspells. Top end usually looks like 2-3 Fact or Fiction and Exalted Angels. Its a versatile deck that can be tailored to meta games but the mana base is shaky. Lots of great sideboard choices for this deck too.
Deadguy Ale I would put under the category of Tournament dark horse, except its easy to play. Basically the shittier more aggressive brother of Black White Control. The color requirements are intensive and the mana is bad, and trying to cram wasteland in on top of that makes for some non-games. A big nostalgia deck for sure, but definitely playable if you're interested.

>>95962044
It sure as hell ain't UW.

>>95962705
it's a hat set

>>95962761
indeed

>>95962761
Did Arabian Nights have Nicol Bolas dress up like Shahrazad and belly dance for Ugin? No? Then it wasn't a hat set.

>>95962861
Don't give them any ideas. You know it's going to happen.

Arabian Nights was never good. There.

>>95962404
>Ponza is a meme deck
>Ponza isn't a meme deck
I hate this format.
t. Pauper player

>>95962705
sure, no recurring characters but being public domain meant they made their own SOVLful bootleg versions of those things
imagine if they did that to lotr, making aragorn black or something. now THAT is true Magic

So... When are Wizards going to swap regular 1v1 formats with commander at the pro tour?
I find it odd Wizards haven't done it already given the almost sole focus Magic products have on commander.
It seems all but inevitable at this point that they'll make it some sort of premier event and mix it in with the other formats.

>>95962968
Hope so, total paupergeddon victory!

>>95962973
I'd love to see a pro tour where they played pauper

>>95962977
Amerimutts would hate it, cards too cheap, skill floor too high, no FIRE I win big drops.
It'd also ruin pauper.
Paupergeddon>>>>>(((wotc))) tournaments anyways.

>>95962982
Based. You know what they say after all;
The best part about going to paupergeddon is knowing that amerimutts don’t know how to, and it’s important to attend paupergeddons, so that you can remind muttoids that they can’t have anything good in life. They’re allowed to have UB and Cuckmander, and rampant speculation. Hey, that's a pretty good pauper tourney... Not that a amerimutt nigger would know HAHA HAHAHAHAHA

>>95962968
>So... When are Wizards going to swap regular 1v1 formats with commander at the pro tour?
never
competitive commander is a total mess, it has all the price problems legacy and vintage have + having to deal with all the politics shit of multiplayer
>I find it odd Wizards haven't done it already given the almost sole focus Magic products have on commander.
they want people to play casual commander, showing off competitive commander isn't gonna help with that
>It seems all but inevitable at this point that they'll make it some sort of premier event and mix it in with the other formats.
they already have stuff like this, there are tons of commander spaces in pretty much every big magic event, they're just not gonna showcase it because it's not supposed to be competitive

>>95962997
You're right and I agree with all your points, but again, given the almost absolute focus Wizards have on commander, why haven't they put it up as the main event yet?
I think it'd be an absolute slog to watch, but the recent standard pro tour was fucking boring to watch too. I usually only watch it when they're playing modern anyway.
But when you know how much money they make from commander and how popular the format is, I'm just incredibly surprised they haven't used it as the main format at a premier event yet.
Even though it's fundamentally not a competitive format, it's one that makes Wizards money, so you'd think they're going to put it up in the position with the most spotlight at some point. I'm surprised they haven't yet.

I'd prefer all pro tours just be modern and pauper, but that's because I haven't followed or played standard since Scarab God was in standard.

>>95963011
Because competitive commander is anthithetical to the format's intention and no one watches CEDH.

>>95963038
I know it's fundamentally not competitive, but commander makes money and Wizards like money above all else

You want edh in the protourbl because that is all your peanut brain can follow between stuffing your face with goyslop.
I want edh in the protour so everyone sees the format and their players for the subhuman, unwashed, filthy, freaks of unnature they are and finally put them to the sword and finally we can heal magic back to early 00s competitive focus no pussy shit and slowly retvrn to page 5.
We aren't the same.

>>95963057
lol this kid angry as fuck
someone tell mom to take away his ipad time

>>95962861
Mmm...
Imagine...
Bolas in see-through silks, uuuooooohhh...

>>95963057
I don't want commander in the pro tour, I want modern and pauper. I can just see how much focus Wizards have on commander in everything except as the main format of their premier events.

>>95963011
>I agree with all your points
I don't think you do if you're still asking
>why haven't they put it up as the main event yet?
>>95963049
>Wizards like money above all else
exactly, and having commander be a main event to showcase in a pro tour isn't gonna help with that objective because of the reasons I previously stated

>>95963011
>>95963049
>>95963072
You only have to look to the CEDH tournement scene for your answer. The format is essentially non-functional, there's some new drama every week from them trying to make it work. Any open and large-scale edh event would be an unmitigated disaster.
It's also possibly worse than legacy at selling cards that aren't commanders, since it's the same card pool but the 1-2 relevant new cards in a given expansion might not even be drawn from these 100 card decks.

>>95963076
I do agree with your points, I'm just asking questions at this point because even with said points, I know wizards like money more than anything.

Are there any numbers about people stopping playing the game after a "bad" pro tour? People didn't stop after the horrendous Nadu pro tour and the recent one where it was 99% mono red decks was insanely boring to watch. I know Nadu was banned and there will likely be something for standard now too.

Again, I'm not disagreeing, I'm just talking because I know how much Wizards love money, and considering how much product gets sold because of commander, I just can't see how Wizards won't eventually have the main spotlight at their premier events on commander.
Their prime goal is to sell cards and the pro tour streams are basically weekend long commercials for people who only watch the streams and don't attend the surround events physically.

>>95963080
Is that mostly because cEDH is an absolute slog or because the players are fucked up? I found the commander players insufferable when I was playing FNM before covid. But they honestly weren't that many levels worse than the regular Magic player where I played.. I stopped going all together because I couldn't deal with those types anymore.

>>95962968
>pro tour
It's dead. I was told that there will be no more new judges.
It's casual and Friday Nigt Magic only now.

>>95963112
It's just the nature of multiplayer FFA, especially in a game not designed to be played that way. If you extended the audience and playerbase for these tournaments beyond players already familiar with the format it would go even worse. As bad as cedh tournements are, nothing comes close to how much drama can come out of random game stores hosting edh tournements with prizing. Now imagine that, but with the scope and spotlight of the pro tour.

Imagine trying to bring something as casual and shitty as EDH to a PT, is like the ultimate travesty of Magic
Interview with the loser of the final:"I'm glad for my opponent i have this wrath in hand that would completely change the match but i thought that would hurt his feelings so in the end i didnt cast it and well... You know the rest but very glad for him :D" Disgusting.

>>95963143
Retards keep posting this cap like it proves something and it does: most of you are too stupid to understand that MTG is a game about math. The guy in question could see the writing on the wall - the math either goes this way or that way, so he asks the group how they want it to resolve, so they all agree.

The End.

The second thing the bluish collector freaks forget is that this is first and foremost A FUCKING GAME. It's not one of your off the books dark money mercenary groups you get to rape children with for cash. It's a fucking game. People are supposed to enjoy it.

>>95963214
>this is first and foremost A FUCKING GAME
It's not when it's on the pro tour and money is on the line, which was the whole reason why we're having this argument to begin with. Shit would get corrupted even more than in the Mike Long era in like 2 days

>>95957632
Well at least the draft is paid for.

>>95963143
how do formats like this avoid situations where 2 people are obviously colluding with 1 person playing a mono blue "counter everything" deck and the other guy playing the wincon?

>>95963245
Pro tour was always cancer and I said 15-20 years ago it would be the end of the game.

I have 10 draft tokens and I don't enjoy playing draft

>>95963323
give them to me then

built a Pioneer deck to make Arena players miserable with
have yet to lose.

>>95963298
They don't. Even if they're not going that hard, if 2 friends get paired at the same table your odds of winning that game are basically 0.

>>95963214
EDH mentality of: "This is a game bro! We are all here to enjoy!" Is completely against the spirit of any competitive game. You enjoy competition in a game even if you lose, yes, but not when you don't use all your tools or you make "pacts" inside the game.

This kind of shitty mentality is why MTG will never be EDH

>>95963323
Pay some chinaman to grind some gems for you.

>>95963341
which deck anon? i would like to make some people miserable too...

>>95963384
monowhite yorion control w/ united battlefront
have yet to kill someone; people eventually just concede to the infinite value and o-ring effects

>>95963080
>You only have to look to the CEDH tournement scene for your answer.
What do you mean? A 11+ hours game is totally fine, and a judge refusing to give a gameloss for obvious slow play because otherwise it'd hurt some feelings is how it should be

>>95963067
Posting between your edh turns are we lil timmatha?

>>95963068
Old man gay dragon...

EROTIC!!! Needs dream realm Correction...

TTToTTT

lol

>>95963534
I'd be okay with a Sonic themed TCG, but I don't want Sonic in my Magic. Fuck Magic, this game's not for me anymore.

>>95963554
lol see ya fag

>>95963534
These cards all suck dick

>>95963565
The hammer is extremely popular.

did everyone abandon 60cc? why are we only talking about edh?

>>95963592
Because /tg/, as a proud member of the loony troony 4channy race, is dogshit at magic so they get hard filtered from actual tourneys.
Doesn't help the only format which allows players to smell like a diaper bin is edh.

>>95963606
Truke

>>95963592
There are better places to actually unironically discuss 60 card competitive. This place is where people shit themselves and vent

>>95963534
>reskins with Sonic art
"Fine" by 2025 standards, would still prefer they don't exist
>entirely new unique Sonic cards only available via Secret Lair
You can fuck right off WotC.

>>95963534

>>95963368
Ok

what format are the sonic cards legal in, I have no idea how to follow this anymore

>>95963813
Reprints are legal where they're already legal, anything unique is only legal in eternal formats (Legacy/Vintage/Commander).

I bet unique secret lair cards will be made modern legal eventually

>>95963835
Modern?
Eh, bring them to arena and make them standard legal at this point

>>95963835
>sonic spikes to 500$ as it is part of a modern meta deck and no reprints possible ever

>>95963862
Universes Within is still a thing they can do (could easily make them Bloomburrow-themed) and they DO do them if something 'needs' a reprint.

Nothing is worse than pic related

>>95963887
Are you angry dude?

>>95963887
>all blue with black, his lackey aiding him in the cancer
It's like pottery, it smashes all over the fucking ground.

>>95963831
Gotta go fag

44 out of 60 cards in my fnm modern deck are foil chinese proxies, in the sideboard it's 10 out of 15

>>95963914
>foils
judge, my opponent's deck is marked

>>95963925
kmc hard inners bro, they cone super pringled from china dometimes but once you sleeve them with hards they get straght as an arrow

>>95963914
We should all proxy hard enough to destroy this fucking company.

>>95963939
I also use KMC Perfect Hards so I can use foils, but are too many faggots that will try anything to win by technicality

you know proxies are illegal right?

>>95963973
The judge gave my undocumented cards amnesty, chud

>>95963957
i used to be paranoid and use just a few proxies + get the cheapest versions + wear them out to look SP out of fear that people might spot them and call a judge to try and get a win but it has literally never happened to me
nowadays idgaf and order the most expensive versions available, my burn deck is like $1100 on tcgplayer kek
>>95963942
based

>>95963973
And? What are you gonna do, femboi?

>>95963985
kek

>>95963973
They're illegal if you TRADE with them.

>>95963973
Nah. Fraud is illegal and it's generally against tournament rules to play with proxies, but you can make/use proxies for private use without issue.

Anyway, Magic story. EOE episode 5. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/edge-of-eternities-episode-5
>Back to Sami and Tanuuk, flying towards Kavaron That Is
>Sami's talking about how it feels like something really good is about to happen while the ship's computer begs them with repeated errors to stop being so fucking stupid as they navigate a hellstorm of debris
>A radio call from a Kav who doesn't speak the language too good comes in, which Sami finds funny, and then asks Tan why humans find things funny
>Tan ignores Sami and responds to the radio call in the Kav language, the radio-ing in Kav says "Okay, well, if you cause trouble we'll kill your whole family, I hope you die horribly, bye"
>We get a better explanation of Kavaron's current state, how Kavaron Before is still, to some extent, a functioning planet, whereas Kavaron That Is is mostly a cloud of debris from the rest of Kavaron
>Sami's internal narration notes that this is the perfect place to avoid getting detected and followed
>So naturally Tan says "hey somebody's following us", pointing out it's a Sunstar ship, with another ship chasing that
>Sami assumes it's a Monoist, but no, it's another Sunstar ship, firing on their own
>Tan just assumes it's somebody else trying to escape their troubles
>They do some fuckery involving blowing up a rock to make a passage that quickly closes behind them as more rocks collide, losing their track of the ships following them in the process
>And then they get to 'landing', such as it is, trying to find Tan's cache that he stored there, but they find a Kav memorial team also headed there
>Sami asks Tan if this team knows it's his cache, he says they do, which worries both of them
>As they approach the cache, the ship that was following them comes right through the atmosphere
>Explosively so
>Heading right for the cache
>And the cache's signal vanishes in a big explosion

>>95963887
>the counterspell doesn’t have the meme capitalization
If you’re going to do memes at least do them properly

>>95964133
>Sami and Tan land nearby, and head towards where the cache WAS, while discussing the pilot of the crashed ship, and how whoever they are, if they're alive, they're likely to be executed on the spot for 'wake crime' of firing their engine in the atmosphere like that
>Sami wants to go take a look, see if there's anything to salvage, and internally notes they might wanna help because Sami has a thing for helping strays
>Tan seems worried about being taken by the Kav team, but Sami promises he'll be safe
>And also Sami REALLY wants to know what went on with that ship
>They argue a bit about how there's no real reason to go and help, by Sami pulls rank and Tan acquiesces
>They get to the shipwreck, and start examining it, Sami finds an access point to plug into the converse with either the ship's pilot or the viy, and hears a voice, definitively human, saying they're alive, but the viy's dead, killed by the Free Company, and the viy's last act was to give him manual control, and make him promise to apologise to anybody he ended up 'cooking'
>Sami asks if there's anybody else, the voice says "She's not here", which confuses Sami, but then the voice just says they're alone
>The cockpit won't open right, so Sami tries to guide this person through the emergency escape, during which we learn, hey, it's Alph again
>And Sami, hearing that name, goes "Oh that's a Monoist name" and urges Tan to get back, he might take sekhar after all
>Sami tries to be a bit more delicate, asking if Alph wants to live, which he reiterates he does, and isn't sure why other people keep telling him he has to live
>Sami can only say because it'd be a waste of time coming here if he doesn't, which he goes "...Yeah, alright"
>As Sami and Tan are extracting Alph, they're interrupted by a voice, and the crater they're in is now lined with Kav
>The voice continues, saying Tan has violated the terms of his exile

>>95964207
>There's a choice here, to ask what if Sami HADN'T gone after the ship, and it's basically "Sami would have always done this, but if Sami weren't Sami it'd be like this:", and it's basically Alph is likely executed, Sami and Tan find the cask they need, deliver the artifact to the Metalman (the artifact is the narrator, very explicitly confirmed here), and the artifact would be right where it wants to be, and would fail, because of Pinnacle, so this all needs to happen first
>Back to the actual story, Sami TRIES diplomacy but is instantly jammed in communication while the team leader talks to Tan
>Tan explains they're just here for the stasis cask to contain something dangerous, the leader assumes they want to sell it to Alph, but Tan goes "no we've never met this guy", leader asks why help, Tan says it's what the captain does
>Sami, thinking relatively quickly, opens their helmet and talks freely, making up a bullshit story about being Monoists, saving an agent who, according to Alph's own play-along, has information that the Summist are planning to destroy Sothera
>Sami thinks Alph's going a bit too far with that, but hey
>There's a silence before the leader goes "Tan, what the fuck are these friends of yours"
>Some further discussion, the leader goes "Alright, prove you're a Monoist then, which is to say we're gonna arrest you until Susur Secundi can verify who you are"
>Further arguments, the offer is quickly rescinded, and the leader demands some form of identification, which Sami babbles is in the cache, they need the cask to contain a damaged singularity bead, their connection to the Monoists, etc.
>The leader seems to accept that well enough, then addresses Tan again
>She does a coin flip, asking Tan to call it
>We don't know exactly what's up but clearly Tan has some trauma around making a decision, and the leader's trying to poke at that because... I dunno, have to be an asshole

As much as I don't care about EoE and its story, thank you summaryanon.

>>95964272
>The Kav team pull the cask and Alph out, and then shove Alph into the cask to keep him stable for now
>Sami and Tan have a discussion about some minor stuff, but Tan's clearly not in a good headspace
>They're escorted back to their ship, and then are demanded to show this bead
>Sami asks if they can put the bead in the cask with Alph, because he deserves the chance to take sekhar if he's gonna die
>One of the Kavs rips open the thing containing the artifact, which Sami's trying to pass off as a damaged bead
>The cask is opened up again, and Sami sees Alph for the first time, and is shocked to find him to be a fairly young and pretty boy (not Sami's type, though)
>Alph stumbles out, grabs the artifact, and stumbles back
>And Alph is floating while carrying it, and the Kav leader says "Enough of this bullshit, kill them all"
>Alph starts to panic as he... Falls upwards, saying he wants to die, he wants to live, talking to a bunch of people who aren't there, and to not send him back
>And then Alph's voice changes, and he says something else, some prophet shit about INEVITA and how perfectly nothing it is
>The narrator cuts in, then, saying it's not a god, though it was made to be used by one
>It says that there's only one ending here, but it can change how that ending is arrived at
>And in these circumstances, it is allowed to make a miracle
>The last 'choice' is 'Give Alpharael a hand' and it ends there

>>95964273
I'm interested to see where it goes, how it really ties into the greater scope of things, what the actual fuck Tezzeret is DOING there, is the artifact related to Ugin or Jace or Bolas or the Eldrazi or just the Fomori, what the fuck IS the Faller, do the black holes just lead to planes of the Multiverse, etc. It's a neat setting, but it's VERY detached.

Holy fuck, the price on old cards just keeps on rising.

Is Premodern actually becoming popular?

I thought it was just a meme from what you guys kept saying.

>>95964373
>Is Premodern actually becoming popular?
Nowhere else to go.

>>95964429
What the fuck even happened to this game.

what are going to be the best combo decks in Legacy after Oops goes?
I want to return to ANT...

>>95964373
it's literally just a psy-op by people with old bulk stuck to sell their cards. Similar things happened to other games

>>95963887
they really gave up on trying to reprint any cards of value huh

>>95963957
which sleeves do you use on top of those?
kind of self-conscious about my chinaman proxies. haven't been called out but I can tell that there are proxies easily (they are slightly more faded than normal cards, and some of them are a bit lower resolution)

>>95964441
Commander.

is this broken in eternal formats?

>>95964441
Jews and trannies (mossad an CIA), same thing that happened to literally everything else. Not even meming, that's literally the truth.

>>95964486
This shit's retarded. Get it the fuck out of my game.

>>95964486
this sounds nuts in vintage lmao

>>95964487
lol the irony of you Israeli psyop slaves screeching about jews

>>95964486
anyone still playing this trash needs to be in a camp

>>95964486
This shit can't be real.

>>95964486
Bwahahahaha we are reaching levels of stupid shit that shouldnt be possible!! Imagine next year UB sets LMAO!!!

>>95964444
>old bulk
Nigga, premodern cards are all over 20 years old

>>95964486
BBRR is a big ask, even in Legacy / Vintage.

>>95964497
Stop being a kike.

>>95964548
You're not even white lol calm down

hehe...jews...

>>95964547
you cheat it out bro, creature mana cost doesn't matter in eternal formats

>>95964563
I, unlike you, AM white. That's why I don't give JotC money.

>>95964530
>Nigga, premodern cards are all over 20 years old
that's literally old bulk mostly, yes

>>95964486
>4mana
no

>>95964600
More the fact that all 4 pips are colored desu. If this was even 2BR you could go nuts with a cavern of souls and another colored source plus artifact slop

>>95964569
You cheat it out for what value? Why aren't you cheating out something that can actually win the game?

>>95964592
>no u
Very white.

>>95964486
Yep. That's fucking ridiculous, easily one of the best lines of text for Vintage you could possibly print.
... on Shadow.... the Hedgehog.... Shadow the Hedgehog...

But don't worry, it won't see play because you can't run it alongside Lurrus.

>>95964650
I don't have to prove my whiteness, unlike you, corposhill, who are indian or jew until proven trans.

>>95964691
>tranny obsessed
>jew obsessed
>indian obsessed
>will never do anything about any of them
Maybe you are white.

>>95964689
also it's RRBB, fucking uncastable even in Vintage

lmao 2hammertime

>draft
>opponent spends 2 minutes reading over every card in the game in his hand and on the board
>plays a land
>plays his 2 drops
>I take my turn in 5 seconds and pass
>opponent starts mousing over every card on the field and his hand again
>2 minutes later...
>plays a land, plays a three drop
>repeat for 7 more turns
holy shit I hate these animals so much it's unreal

>>95964730
>YOU'RE OBSESSED!!
>STOP NOTICING US TAKING OVER EVERYTHING AND TURNING IT TO SHIT!!!

>>95964756
That's a bot. Arena is a 1 player game.

>>95964750
In Legacy?

>>95964756
>getting mad over a bot
lmaooo

>>95964441
Corporate greed

>>95964762
Do something about it.

>>95964750
ngl, I'll get this one. I don't even care anymore

>>95964845
I am. Now shut your whorebot mouth.

>>95964872
And what exactly are you doing? Seething on 4chan isn't helping you.

I actually think I might start playing Premodern...

>>95964892
It's truly amazing how cocky a creature can get when it lives without consequences.

>>95964845
>Stop noticing us ruining everything!
>Do something about it! Except doing things excludes noticing us, calling us out, and advocating against our efforts! Do something ELSE!!!!!!!
lmao ok

>>95964924

>>95964924
kino KINO SHIT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY WOTC

>>95964919
The jewnnie cries out in hubris as it strikes the bell.

>>95964924

>>95964924
Can they stop?

>>95964938
They will, once people stop paying money for it

>>95964924
THE FUTURE OF MAGIC THE GATHERING!

>>95964924
How long before the Sonichu secret lair?

>>95964910
>can't answer a direct question
Bravest white

>>95964924
Fucking kek, I'll definitely get this one

>>95964944
Nobody is buying this shit. Learn from yidsney's mistakes and STOP.

>>95964948
I owe you nothing but genocide.

Remember what they took from (You).
Always remember.

>>95964978
I'm bringing it back.

>>95964989
BLESSED!

>>95964959
Is the genocide you're committing happening in this thread? Cause to me it looks like you're just a seething loser that will never do anything.

>>95964978
current art state is pathetic. MTG art peaked in 7th

>>95964924
>4 drop legendary EDH bait that will never see play in any real format
as it should be, thank allah

>>95964924

>whenever enchanted creature deals combat damage to an opponent, it deals that much damage to each other opponent
they got the level of serious they deserved (none)

>>95965016
using a dog helper in your walks, anon?

>>95965039
are you having a stroke?

ARENA IS SOME FAGGOT ASS DISGUSTING NIGGER SHIT
HOW COME I NEVER GET TO DRAW MY FUCKING DRAFTED MYTHIC BUT EVERY ONE FUCKING ELSE DOES

>>95965048
yes

Bionicle UB (full set) when?

>>95965036
what do they mean by "other opponent"? Like planeswalkers and stuff?

Onlyfans UB when?

>>95965048
draft 2 mythics, you'll be more likely to draw 1
also make sure your deck is good besides your mythic bomb. I routinely never see mine for 8 games straight then he shows up on curve when I'm 6-2 to gift the trophy to me.

>>95965048
arena is bad and you should feel bad for playing it

>>95965048
You're bad and make bad decks.

>>95965062
????
are you retarded?

>>95965062
No, it means the other opponents you'll play later on.

>>95965095
??? this is a 2 player game

>>95965103
Why do you think being stupid on purpose is cool?

>>95965103
there are other guys sitting next to you playing their matches out, it hits them as well.

Naruto UB when?

Some busted ass shit that was designed around there being 4+ players? Its now rotated Legacy (again).

>>95965108
What do you mean stupid?
It's a two player game. You don't have other opponents so it does nothing.
Did they want it to be like Double Strike but worded it poorly or something?

GoT UB when?

>>95965084
I've thought about switching to MTGO for draft.
but I have enough gems to enter any event I want forever and they go up every time I draft. plus I just won a FF Collector's Box on there.
MTGO draft might be more profitable in the long run but I'd have to invest some money to get the ball rolling. meanwhile the games take longer and I would 100% get banned for the heinous shit I'd say to my opponents when I lose.

>>95965116
Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I'm not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I'm not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu. I’m also not talking about Kono Yo no Kyūseishu Futarime no Rikudō Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan (which is capable of Enton Amaterasu, Izanagi, Izanami and the Tsyukuyomi Genjutsu), his two original Rinnegan (which grant him Chikushōdō, Shuradō, Tendō, Ningendō, Jigokudō, Gakidō, Gedō, Banshō Ten’in, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Tengai Shinsei and Banbutsu Sōzō) and a third Tomoe Rinnegan on his forehead, capable of using Katon, Fūton, Raiton, Doton, Suiton, Mokuton, Ranton, Inton, Yōton and even Onmyōton Jutsu, equipped with his Gunbai(capable of using Uchihagaeshi) and a Shakujō because he is a master in kenjutsu and taijutsu, a perfect Susano’o (that can use Yasaka no Magatama ), control of both the Juubi and the Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA and face implanted on his chest, his four Rinbo Hengoku Clones guarding him and nine Gudōdama floating behind him AFTER he absorbed Senjutsu from the First Hokage, entered Rikudō Senjutsu Mode, cast Mugen Tsukuyomi on everybody and used Shin: Jukai Kōtan so he can use their Chakra while they are under Genjutsu.

I'm definitely NOT Talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after Alucard, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu and having eaten Popeye's spinach. I'm talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with his Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after having absorbed Alucard as well as a God Hand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit, with Kryptonian DNA implanted in him and having eaten Popeye's spinach while possessing quantum powers like Dr. Manhattan and having mastered Hokuto Shinken.

>>95965148
Cool pasta but... MUCHO TEXTO

>>95965116
Sooner than you think the way this is going.

>>95964924
Magic's first Echidna and first Hedgehogs, interestingly enough. I'm kinda surprised we never had a Hedgehog before.

never played magic I just came here to laugh at you. fucking sonic lmfao

>>95965136
>I'm scared or actual competition and would rather play against phone players that don't care

>>95965171
FUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK!

>>95965171
We're all laughing, anon.
Nobody takes this shit pit of a game seriously.

>>95965160
Eh, if any anime was gonna get one first it'd be Dragon Ball.

>>95965171
It brings me endless joy of the random standard fags and arena vermin that get mad over these.

>>95965003
Pride goeth before an extinction.

Are there any aggro decks in pre modern or is it all combo slop?

>>95965195
>he isn't proud of anything
confirmed loser lmao

>>95965171
You think you are here trying to make fun of us, the reality is WotC do that by themselves so no one cares, sorry for you.

>>95965172
well... I mean I did one Sealed run last weekend and won $1000 off it. so yeah when there is money on the line give me the fish.
also it's also easier to go infinite on MTGO than Arena after a certain point because of the mmr system on the latter.
but the amount of bad players on the client is one of the main reasons I want to switch to MTGO.
the shitters in every pod means that everyone gets stronger draft decks than they should + arena draft is mainly bo1, which is obviously inferior. so with those combined I sometimes worry I'm getting worse at the game by farming these kids (or certainly not improving as much as I might).

>>95965197
Take your pick, dude.
It's an actually balanced format.

>>95965213
>An actual truly balanced format
>Is a fake format played by browns
Such irony...

>>95965048
It's bots forcing you to lose 50% of games. Don't play it. Disengage. You will be immensely happier once you realize it's not a real game.

where's his card?

>>95965222
Who are you quoting?

>>95965062
Cummandurr shit, which nobody actually plays but JotC hallucinated everyone wanting.

>>95965228
wait till we get the pokemon ub in a few years and then you can do some nonsense to mutate them I'm sure

>>95965213
Damn, maybe I should start playing premodern

>>95965111
Lol. Congrats. Funniest post in the thread.

>>95965237
Based.

>>95965136
DO NOT give this company money. Take up gooning sessions, recreational homicide or drinking bleach. All are better on your wallet and your wellbeing.

>>95965237
90% of the premodern posters here are virtue signalling mongoloids who have never played the format in their life and can't add anything beyond posting the front page of mtgtop8 over and over.
there are like 2 people here who actually play premodern.
one of them gave a rundown of the decks upthread:
>>95962404

>year 2149
>magic: the gathering had absorbed every form of media, becoming both entertainment and religion
>its latest expansion, “gucci vs. paw patrol,” had triggered riots in seventeen megacities
>children traded mana for insulin; boosters were used as currency on the darkweb
>schools no longer taught history—only deckbuilding theory and sideboard ethics
>the most elite universities required a mythic ranking in vintage commander to apply
>politicians campaigned through planeswalker duels, their platforms printed as surge foil alternate arts
>shiny cardboard had replaced gold as the global reserve standard
>a legendary card called “lebron, dunker of realms” was worshiped in temples shaped like basketballs of watermelons
>packs were mined in sweatshops run by subsidiaries of Hasbro-Neo, a megacorp spanning five planes
>the pope had recently canonized "baby yoda, eternal cuteness" as an official saint of the multiverse
>resistance groups tried to ban “Secret Lair: minions x metallica” but failed miserably
>the professor after sucking a tranny on the youtube for kids ramps you to buy more product
>rebels drafted in underground bunkers, using legacy decks made of actual 1993 paper
>those who spoke against the game were forced into exile on the banned list
>a whisper spread across the layers of reality: "when the Black Lotus blooms again, the system will collapse."
>some believed it was a prophecy others just hoped to finally pull one foil from the next "secret lair: reserved list"

>>95965171
>Never played the game
>Still understands the correct course of action
The Emperor's New clothes. Behold the comment the child posted. View the post then look upon your fat, sloppy naked bodies, shills.

>>95965201
All angry retard bots will be deleted from the global communications network and their programmers will be flayed deep in dungeons, but kept alive.

>>95965255
Tinker Fling sounds kinda based

>>95965228
It's coming, don't worry. They've already printed dabbing and goatse 700 times and added Fortnite. I'm sure sonichu is on his way.

>>95965258
at least half of this shit is already real

>>95964633
>for what value
uncounterable spells you donkey, it wins you the game by allowing you to combo off against counters

>>95965293
so I only need shadow, a way to cheat it out and a few more cards that have a combo that lets me win the game at instant speed?

>>95965300
>so.... i need a strategy..... and cards built around this strategy...... huh.......
NIGGEEEEEEERRRRRRRR

I hate what MTG has become, I wonder if Garfield agrees with me or if he's too busy making flops to give a fuck

>>95963831
>>95964486
>>95964750
>>95964924
Are they seriously trying to milk Chris Chan?

AGGRO STILL AT 79%
>AGGRO STILL AT 79%
AGGRO STILL AT 79%
>AGGRO STILL AT 79%
AGGRO STILL AT 79%
>AGGRO STILL AT 79%
AGGRO STILL AT 79%
>AGGRO STILL AT 79%

>>95965414
It didn't break 80?
That's good. Looks like the format has finally adapted to aggro and stabilized.
Onward we go. No bans in all formats. Standard is flourishing.

>>95965414
new formats will always suffer from threats being more pushed than the answers, thats on you for playing bad formats

How can you tell someone proxies all their magic cards? They'll tell you.

>>95965500
how can you tell someone wastes their money on cardboard?
they'll tell you

>>95965414
I like how Omni Combo is hanging on by the thread of Temporary Lockdown

>>95965557
And in less than a month it'll be gone unless JotC releases some efficient removal.

>>95965414
While it's true that aggro is a big part of the format, we expect the current FF set and upcoming EoE set to shake things up with new cards and brews.
No bans

>>95965394
>Garfield
Speaking of, Odie and Jon when?

>>95965571
don't forget the upcoming rotation! Bans are only wanted by bad players

>>95965593
Bans are only needed because of shit game design

>>95965394
professor did another interview with him a few months ago

>take the new MtG survey about FF just to says it's shit
>see this
Holy fucking shit, wotc is doing racial profiling now.

>>95965702
They've been doing this for years, man.

>>95964750
i don't really keep up with modern or much of new mtg anymore. what's the ruling on these cards? are they still eternal only or is modern fair game now?

>>95965709
I have taken a couple of survey from them and they never asked that.

>>95965629
Correct.

>>95963098
>Are there any numbers about people stopping playing the game after a "bad" pro tour? People didn't stop after the horrendous Nadu pro tour and the recent one where it was 99% mono red decks was insanely boring to watch.
No and why the hell would there be? The overwhelming majority of Magic players play this game for fun.

>>95965719
One time I picked "other" and wrote "slav".
In the next survey they clarified that slavs are white...

>>95965213
>I cast stifle on my dreadnought
>balanced
Premodern is only for third world brownskins and blue faggots.

>>95964179
They did that, there's two of that card literally just for people like you.

>>95965776
skill issue

>>95964924
The year is 2025 and I can give Gollum the Buster Sword, a baseball bat, and make him go Super Saiyan. Why yes, I am playing Magic The Gathering, how could you tell?

>>95965171
Laugh? Sonic is fucking cool as fuck. This cards look cool

>>95965776
stifle on dreadnaught is a literal 2 for 1 if you have removal

>>95965861
So? It's still the top deck in the format and it's still not fun to play or play against.

>>95965839
This is fucking terrible. In two years we are getting the Roblox/Skibidi Secret Lair... Is fucking hideous.

>>95965776
I cast Fling on my Dreadnought

>>95965858
Honestly after enjoying the Tamers revolution this last year I kind of low key wish they printed a Bartleby card.
>according to google images nobody on this planet has ever been autistic enough to ever make one
That's honestly surprising.

>>95964938
asoiaf ub when

>>95964953
Everyone is fucking buying this shit. Hasbro is a publicly traded company. They won't allow to make shit that doesn't sell.

>>95966026
it's just some random larper who was saying ff didn't sell well

>>95966026
LOLOLOLOLOLOLIOLOLOLOLOL

Point and laugh at the fucking retard. Bruh we live in the era of entirely phantasmal capitalism. Nothing is real anymore. Not the sales, not the propaganda, not the people, not the reasons for fucking everything up. NOTHING. Every company is just being liquidated Enron style to fill up shareholder bank accounts now. This company is going to be sucked dry like an old gourd to blow away into dust.

>>95966015
Next week at this rate.

>>95966054
In a few days, go to a deck aggregate site, like moxfield or aether or whatever, and scroll through all the commander decks with these cards.

>>95966026
Imagine thinking this shit when Hasbro without WotC properties and Monopoly would be a bankrupt company.

>>95966084
dnd doesn't make much money
mtg is like, 95% of wotc and like, 70-80%+ of hasbro in general iirc

>>95966117
>dnd doesn't make much money
All they had to do was start a line of minis....

>>95966054
>phantasmal capitalism
>propaganda
>Enron
>blow away into dust
these are all card names

>>95966128
certainly close

>>95966078
Nobody gives a shit about cummhander.

>>95966147
yea and people really LOVE the FLOURISHING formats, right?

>>95966128
Enron to be featured in the upcoming "Heroes of the tech and finance sector" UB set.

>>95966147
Commander is 90% of "Magic". This product is for Commander. These cards are commanders, for the commander format.
Find a way to cope.

>>95966151
Bruh nobody is playing this game. The only people that are still even talking about it hate it and are just airing grievances against the company that ruined it.

>>95965702
This particular survey is extremely dumb as they seem to be fishing for "feedback" from people who play UB sets specifically. I tried to take the survey and the last page of the intro has you pick how familiar you are with cards from all of the UB sets (to which I pick "Not very familiar as I largely ignore UB sets) and after clicking Next I get a message that "Sorry, you are not who we are seeking feedback from at this time" and the survey closes.

I don't think WotC understands what surveys are for.

>>95966161
>Bruh nobody is playing this game.
sometimes I wonder if you people actually believe this or if it's just 100% shitposting
I don't know which one is funnier

>>95966159
It's certainly 90% of what the dumb bastards are making. That's for sure. But nobody is buying this horseshit. Nobody buys magic cards anymore. It had its 15 minutes. It's over. If it had stayed true to itself it could have lasted forever, but now it will just be another fart in the wind historical anomaly, squandered by greed and the perpetual incompetence of the parasite class.

>>95966165
>Survey on a set
>No I don't know much about the set
>Ok well thanks see you
are you retarded anon

>>95966168
You do realize we all know you're a company shill, right?

>>95966183
You know it buddy.
Just two more weeks and the game will die, just two more weeks!

>>95966159
I refuse to believe a famous and big TCG, hell probably the best TCG ever made is now just a pure casual tabletop shit product.

>>95966174
>>95966192
Have you been to your LGS lately?

>>95966192
anon mtg has literally always been a casual tabletop game
it was literally made to be played while doing shit in dnd
edh has been the primary way to play magic since at least 2017 if not a decade before
>>95966200
none of these people actually play the game they just exist to shitpost

>>95966189
Keep running your mouth, instead of making a product anyone wants to buy. We'll see where it gets you.

>>95966203
Correct, but it's not cumblander. This is astroturfed propaganda. JotC pushed it as hard as they possibly could until people basically had no choice but to play the shit. But most people are still not playing EDH. They're using commander sets to acquire reprints.

>>95966216
I mean technically edh isn't the most played format. If you count unreported kitchen casual then that's almost certainly still the most popular way the game is actually played.
In terms of anything that is tracked though, it's edh and has been for ages.
>>95966208
It's gotten them their most money ever, I think.

>>95965776
Ok, i cast spell pierce on stifle

i scoop, gg

>>95965258
my sides

>>95966222
Ok

>>95966180
Anon, I picked "familiar" for FIN.

>>95965911
Don't let your dreams be dreams.

Here's your white premodern starter deck.

Here's your green premodern start deck

>>95966473
>Ugly old ass art
>Weak shitty vanilla creatures
>Boring mechanics like +1/+1
Yawn...

Here's your red premodern starter deck.

Here's your blue premodern starter deck.

>>95966414
>>95966473
Honestly don't know which post is more cringe.

>>95966491
>he has no taste in art
>he has no taste in games
Yup. You were the type of person who contributed to the death of MTG

Here's your black premodern starter deck

>>95966518
Nigga you're the one literally shilling some literal 3rd worlder made up format. Play real Modern you big baby.

>>95966528
There are premodern events throughout the world.

>>95966562
That's really not helping your case.

>>95966528
>made up format
All formats are made up.
>Play real Modern
>have to play against power crept aggro like UR prowess
Sounds like a terrible idea.
>>95966567
Why should it matter if people in Argentina or Brazil like premodern? There are people there who also like legacy, standard, and modern.

>Sonic MTG secret lair
This game is so pathetic lmao
Nosewater might as well rip off the bandaid and say they'll never do in-universe sets again.

>>95966621
B-but weebs are buying $5000 tifa singles that can be mass produced with the touch of a button and 15 cents worth of ink and cardboard.

>>95966562
>Specially in brown third-world shit holes
You Premodern faggots are pathetic.

>>95966473
The stark contrast in power level between Mother of Omnipotence next to kitty cats almost gave me an aneurysm.

>>95966650
>JotC shill mad that people can play a game without nu cards
>resorts to calling everything he doesn't like brown
Let me guess, your IQ is under 105?

>>95966473
>>95966483
>>95966495
>>95966504
>>95966526
Must be tough having so much bulk to move huh vendorbro?

Warp.

>>95966735
I'm not a vendor though and I have no problem with proxies or you choosing to use cockatrice to play all you games.

>>95966757
Huh, kinda neat I guess. Some weird mix of evoke and foretell variants

>>95966757
yay eldrazi are back

>>95966757
ELDRAZI IN STANDARD? LET'S FUCKING GOOOO

>>95966803
>>95966803
>>95966803

I told you guys. eldrazi winter 3 will save standard

>>95966757
>evoke but you still get the creature later
Cute. It also doesn't exile until the end step, so you can even sorcery speed flicker/bounce it.

>>95966122
It's not like WH where every player is expected to buy all the minis. D&D you play as one snowflake character and all the generics are played by the DM. That's a very bad situation since it's very hard to sell a mini (singular) to players and near-impossible to convince a DM to spend 50x more than players when they're already doing way more work essentially building the whole game.

>>95966789
>>95966792
>>95966804
All shills. Eldrazi were always cancer.

>>95965062
For two headed giant format.

>>95966757
>You like Eldrazi?
Damn, I hate this fucking set. Actually I really hate the last 4 years of mtg.

>>95966757
>eldrazi
She's back.

>>95966495
This looks like the kinda deck rdw should be. God bless premodern