Toilet Marines Edition

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>Previous thread:
>>95969017

>thread question:
Taking inspiration from the last thread's TQ.
If you could appropriate a piece of music to be the theme of /yourdudes/ what would it be?

What kind of music genre would each faction be? If you think they're all metal or something pick weirdly specific subgenres.

>>95972789 (OP)
>TQ
I like this remix of the nuStarWars Bad Batch Trailer music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS8DFmqHoaE

>skibidi marine
>check
>seems to have gotten DMCA'd by GW.
Crap. Anybody got the file?

>>95972824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNHPvgH0mqs

>>95972784
So what am I suppose to do, is there a similar chapter, where I could use units like crusaders and veterans ?

>>95972838
Just do what you want, anon.
You could easily say that your guys have their different colored armor because of the Crusade they're on; maybe they're doing their alternate scheme to honor a specific figure, maybe it's to honor an event.
Like you could do red armor and say it's so they all remember when half of the Crusade were lost to a raging inferno halfway through the crusade.

>>95972838
There’s a hundred reasons for them to form their own splinter of the chapter and adopt new heraldry, don’t worry about it.

>>95972838
Just play black Templars! Say your guys are on their own sorta independent crusade and paint them however you want while keeping the unit comp the same. Happy crusading anon

>>95972838
Run all the BT units you like and paint them like 2nd company Ultramarines.

>>95972856
Top of the list of reasons would be
>BT aren't even close to being codex compliant, so as long as they're killing enemies of the Imperium, who gives a fuck what colors they're wearing?

>>95972855
>>95972856
>>95972866
Ah okey. I thought, I made the models illegal.
Is getting a unit of terminators or assault terminators a good idea. In the end I would like to have a terminator heavy army, with all characters in terminator armour and three units of regular and assault terminators. I am just not sure, if I want to do it at the of 10th ed and if yes, then which ones to get first. I like the shield and mace ones a lot, but they only melee. The regular have cyclon launchers and can shot at those darn eldar falcons.

>>95972899
>Ah okey. I thought, I made the models illegal.
The only time I've ever seen paint jobs actually matter at a tournament was when we could use allies and this guy was trying to pass off half of his ultramarines as "actually allied in blood angels."

Would it be possible for a baseline human to be modified to the level of a custodes without actually becoming a custodes?

Reminder that we're in the final stretch of the vehicle collage. Deadline is monday. I was going to do the vote for next months theme today or tomorrow but we can do that monday too if you want. What do you think? Feel free to share your theme suggestions here too, we only have a handful.

I want to do a specific kitbash and I have all the pieces in my mind but I don't want to have to buy the pieces that I need and I know that even if I did have those pieces on me and I started to build it it would look like shit because the last 18 kitbashes I've done also looked like shit. Anyone else ever have this problem?

>>95972926
Maybe it is for the best that we get the voting for the new theme out now.

Perhaps the new theme could be "basing for bases?" Bonus points if recipe and methods are included?

>>95972935
>last 18 also looked like shit
Surely it can't be that bad fren. Show us some.

so what's the lore on space marines farting using their biologically enhanced anuses?

>>95972943
Moved most of my models to my car earlier today so I don't have any pics of more modern kitbashes but here's one of an apothecary I did a while back. I don't think I'll ever get greenstuff down, really.

>>95972941
>vote now
Let's wait for more people to add their two cents but I'm fine with doing it this thread. I think I'll have to set more strict deadlines and dates for next month to avoid confusion.
>bases
Sure, now we have:
>terrain
>character/warlord
>elite squad
>kitbashed character
>basing for bases
>character from a faction you've never painted before

>>95972789 (OP)

>>95973010
Farts go into the suit recycling system and get injected directly up their nose pipes later

Lorelet here.
How is the dynamic of the Imperium Sanctus and The Imperium Nihilus being handled?
Is the focus more on Sanctus so that interpretation to how bad the Nihilus is can be left to the 40k fanboy's imagination?
Any examples of how bad it is over in the Nihilus?
And lastly is the Nihilus basically the WFB Chaos Wastes of 40k at this point?

Would I need to use retributor gold or skullcrusher brass for this color?

>>95973023
Isn't this the guys that did the lgbt marines? He'll really paint anything that gives him attention, won't he

>>95973032
>How is the dynamic of the Imperium Sanctus and The Imperium Nihilus being handled?
it isn't

>>95973032
Imperium PG-13 vs Imperium NC-17

>>95973016
Well, he is cute. We all gotta start somewhere. My first few kitbashes were way worse.

>>95973061
Can you elaborate on that? The dynamic isn't being handled at all?
>>95973063
Fair enough.

How's your hobby weekend going, friends?

>>95973046
liberator gold probably works best
retributor has a more orange look to it

>>95973081
meant for >>95973046

>>95973032
>Is the focus more on Sanctus so that interpretation to how bad the Nihilus is can be left to the 40k fanboy's imagination?
No. There are a number of campaign books, codexes, and novels set in Nihilus. You need to go read them.
>Any examples of how bad it is over in the Nihilus?
Yes, plenty.
>And lastly is the Nihilus basically the WFB Chaos Wastes of 40k at this point?
It's a portion of the galaxy where communication and Imperial Warp travel is effectively nonexistent outside of some exceptions. Each system is isolated and vulnerable. It's basically a rerun of Old Night/Age of Strife up there.

>>95973075
Building some models while checking the threads for theme suggestions and submissions. It's going alright.

>>95973072
>The dynamic isn't being handled at all?
Yes, there's barely any information on what's happening on the other side of the rift outside of "Girlyman went in and told Dante he's the big man".
99.9% of all new lore is on the Sanctus side

>>95973103
Aside from the Dark Angels codex. The Blood Angels codex. Others as well.
And a number of novels like Spears of the Emperor, Lords of Silence, Shadowsun novel, etc.

You guys are not applying yourself.

>>95973075
you only have two of those

>Excrementus

>>95973075
>Boxposting

You guys promised me that nobody liked Slaanesh, Emperor's Children were the least popular Legion, the new army was going to be a total flop and squatted back into Codex CSM by 12th edition

But it's been months and the Combat Patrol is literally never in stock!

>>95973182
It's not popular, they've not even bothered to restock it after the scalpers bought it all up and sat on piles of starter boxes for months

Which way white man?

>>95973186
When are the scalpers going to stop sitting on the piles of starter boxes?

>>95973219
Also debating doing grey (with red bands/tertiary color), or trying a geometric camouflage

>>95973219
left but with a very stark highlight (edge or drybrush, dealer's choice) and that neon green spot color used a little more throughout the kit

>>95973101
If you like Star Wars music then maybe krutikov music’s epic remixes would be great for being potential themes for 40k dudes if they are imperial guard that is.

Temple march x imperial march epic version was another consideration I had for my dudes but I think it is too grand still like them both though.
youtube.com/watch?v=oqmL6q37py8

Sorry if the link is messed up I’m phone posting.

>>95973222
When people start buying them (never, because nobody wanted EC lmao)

>>95973231
You misunderstand fren, I meant themes for next months painting collage.
Love me some star wars music though, I'll check it out.

>>95973126
IT'S NOT FUNNY

>>95973246
no that's not how it works, you can't wait until somebody starts buying something before you sell it. You have to make it available for purchase before people can buy it.

>>95973262
They're for sale retard, they're sitting on them because nobody's buying them

>>95973255
My bad anon. The basing with recipes gets a vote from me.

>>95973021
I'm up for Elite squad.
And not just because I have a bunch of Noise Marines and Flawless Blades on my PoS

>>95973272
>>95973278
If more people want to vote once the thread has been up a while I'll post a poll.

>>95973021
Character from a faction you've never painted before sounds fun. Always wanted to get a Harlequin or Tau model to give myself a breath of fresh air after painting so much Skitarii

>>95973270
Sitting on can mean either you have so much stock that you're using it as furniture, but it can also mean, and I think this is the more common usage, you are holding stock back because you think it will be worth more in the future. I assumed you meant the latter usage.

But if you meant the former, please point me to where I can buy a Champions of Slaanesh box for MSRP, I'd grab that in an instant.

Is there ever ever a time to use ghost swords vs ghost axes with force shields on wraithblades?

>>95973294
It's not getting my vote but if it wins I'm gonna do a harlequin 100%. I've been meaning to practice my freehand and clowns seems like a perfect excuse.

>>95973295
all over ebay

>>95973294
This definitely gets my vote. I've wanted to paint him for a while and I'd finally have a reason to do so

>>95973021
Seconding character from a faction you've never painted before. Though does this mean named or any character r?

>when the exodites start complaining about you flaying their children for entertainment

>>95973332
Oh yeah they're perfect for that, I always like seeing the patterns others put on theirs.
>>95973364
The other Eldar/Deldar models look cool too. Really torn between the Harlequin or something from their roster. Might go with Drazhar though, love all the cracked stone trophies

>>95973032
Rogue Trader CRPG handled it a bit (problems with Astropaths and Navigators freaking out), but the game was originally meant to be in pre-Rift era and it checks out
Anyway>>95973032
Rogue Trader handled it a bit (problems with Astropaths and Navigators freaking out), but the game was originally meant to be in pre-Rift era and it checks out
Anyway, Anons, what's your impressions on Rogue Trader CRPG?

>>95973367
Let's say it can be any

found my EC scheme

>>95972838
Each Black Templars Crusade is effectively a mini-Chapter in itself. And some Crusades can just break off and become new successor Chapters anyway.

>>95973434
Nta but has this happened in canon?

>>95973422
vertical splits work way better

>>Drukhari civilians do normalish jobs, produce stuff
>They still feel the soul thirst
>Kabals capture people
>Wytch cults kill them in the arena for sport, which feeds the masses
>Haemonculi provide ressurection and weaponry

Is this right

If csm are juiced up on chaos to be improve their combat prowess and have 10k war experience either through brain consumption or from being Horus heresy veterans does this mean that all of Cawl’s primaris efforts were just for a crumb of improvement to try and equalize the playing field of loyalist marines vs chaos marines?

>>95973351
they're all a good bit over MSRP, when you include shipping

>>95973422
Nice, looks very regal

>>95972789 (OP)
>>thread question:
>Taking inspiration from the last thread's TQ.
>If you could appropriate a piece of music to be the theme of /yourdudes/ what would it be?
https://youtu.be/XrC8UCRhHgg

Brotherhood

>>95973486
>when you include shipping
goalposts shifted, there are plenty selling for UNDER MSRP
and guess what retard
scalpers don't normally sell at MSRP

>>95973500
Oh well

>>95973485
I wouldn’t mind if it was explained that a big chunk of Cawl’s time was spent tracking down innovative hereteks that weren’t chaos and worming through loopholes to get the material and dealing with mechanicus and imperium bureaucratic shenanigans to get his primaris stuff done.
All for a crumb of improvement to be honest.

>Huron Blackheart
>Leads a legion of marines who turned traitor and changed their name and colour scheme afterwards
Wait a minute...
>Rearrange Letters of Huron
Horun...
>Capitalise that N
HoruN...
>Put that N on it's side
HoruZ...

My god, it was right there in front of us the whole time! Huron blackheart is Horus Lupercal!

Bought a box of the drop pods just so I have them around in case an opponent isn't cool with me using my old ones I glued the doors shut on.
Weird that Salamanders were excluded the from the chapter icon options.

What the dark angels’ gimmick? I get the sort of Arthurian knight thing they’re going for but they seem to do more harm than good by being missing and mysterious all of the time and then showing up for a split second to do their own thing

>>95973536
>What the dark angels’ gimmick?
being closeted homos LMAO

>>95973525
>>95973525
This may actually be the case of gw being cheeky and hoping someone would notice. By chance were the red Corsairs supposed to be the posterboys of chaos before it was decided it should be the black legion?

Also I’m getting bad gateways and connection errors for this site. Is this just a bad day for this chan?

>>95973539
Wait so it’s not coincidence that lion el’johnson is named after some gay poet?

>>95973540
>Also I’m getting bad gateways and connection errors for this site. Is this just a bad day for this chan?
Getting them too so it's not just you

>>95973536
>What the dark angels’ gimmick?
Combined arms and high tech.

Can i swap out base sizes? The hospitaller i got comes with this mini diorama i'm using the bits off the spare sister there to fix the missing leg on my last unpainted infantry, i don't really like the big diorama base on just a medic i want to put her on a normal small one.

New Vostroyans when?

>>95973547
I thought it was "terminators and landspeeders, but never, EVER both at the same time. What are you, some sort of secret fag traitor?"

>>95973544
of course not, why do you think the Fallen are named the way they are
hint: they've fallen for their brothers

>>95973551
for some things no but small shit like that it's fine

I decided I like Dark Angels. They're a bunch of chuuni dorks obsessed with a super secret quest that nobody else would care about if they actually spilled the beans, and that's funny. And they look cool as fuck. Would collect when I'm done with my IA army.

Anyone got any kroot fire warrior conversions?

>>95973578
I dunno, I don't think there's much to go on trying to turn a fire warrior model into a kroot. Seems kinda dumb. You could try adding dreadlocks to the helmet though.

>>95973536
>>95973536
They have the old tech the good stuff that other legions and chapters cant field.

Pre imperium tech, have the most terminator armors. Aka the Deathwing. They can consistently field them unlike other chapters and have the means to maintain them in great numbers. They are dadys special boys, people bitch about ultramarines getting special treatment but its nothing compared to the royal blow jobs the dark angels get.

All the MC gafffins and deus ex machninas are in ether the custodies or dark angels cellars hidden away.

You cant be more special then the dark angels.
>>95973547
all marines are trained in combined arms.

>>95973536
knights and terminators
they have the best terminator unit in the whole game
their knights are on motorcycles, which is cool, but unfortunately exactly 0 of those got refreshed so they are still midgets and look like shit

>>95973553
sorry they all died off screen to angron please buy more cadians and kriegers

>>95973547
Isn’t that all space marines? I guess not so much the high tech part, that seems unique but also kind of contrary to the knight aesthetic.
>>95973555
Is the rock also named after a gay nightclub… tell me that one’s a lie at least
>>95973561
I can’t decide whether I want to start them or the other two knight factions. I just wanna be a cool knight and fuck shit up
>>95973587
>>95973616
Oh okay, that’s pretty sick then. I guess that makes sense: terminators, knights in heavy armor

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>95973561
>chuuni
Uwot

>>95973665
Dark eldar more like fart smelldar lmaooo

>>95973553
now

>>95973675
Based post

>>95973377
I never liked this argument, as it's typically used against the three eldar factions who actively fought against Slaanesh's birth. It's even flimsier than blaming the Imperium for giving Chaos its armies. Yeah, the Craftworlders are usually lame gits, and the Ynari and Exodites can be as well, but this wasn't on them. For whatever reason, Dark Eldar get a pass in the fandom for Slaanesh, despite being the ones who created her and continue to feed her.

The captcha doesnt load for me and I keep getting cloudflared.

How many bikes is too many?

>>95973718
All eldar created slanny.

>Petals of white
>Cover fields flowing in grieving tears
>And all the hearts once new, old and shattered now
>Love can kill, love will die
>Give me wings to fly
>Fleeing this world so cold
>I just wonder why
armies for this feel

>>95973741
Ork or Iron Hands

>>95973741
Farsight Enclaves

>>95973544
Read The Dark Angel, man. It's literally a homophobic man grappling with his own homosexuality

>heavy gun servitors in battleclade can both be built with heavy bolters, but only one can have the arc rifle

Kind of surprised, I definitely expected it to be stuck with one of each.

>>95973741
sounds pretty Sororitas

Do you think love can bloom on the battlefields of the 41st millennium?

What really distinguishes the Word Bearers from the World Eaters in their actions? Do the Word Bearers do anything beyond mindless destruction like the World Eaters do? Anything that would please the other 3 chaos gods, not just Khorne?

>>95973795
They are different.

>>95973809
How though?

>>95973795
Word Bearers worship all the Chaos gods. They love Daemons and rituals and just being generally evil

>>95973772
No fucking way man, are they really just gay as fuck??

>>95973795
Word Bearers wear a darker red and love daemon possession
Also I guess technically still a legion? While WE were scattered into various warbands

>>95973795
word bearers are chaotic priests and zealots
world eaters are nearly mindless berzerkers who just rip and tear

>>95973816
>>95973820
>>95973823
Yeah, but I mean their actions. They murder and stuff, which Khorne obviously likes. Do they spread Nurgle's gift? Do they engage in degeneracy for Slaanesh? Do they do whatever the fuck Tzeentch wants?

>>95973819
I guess you could say it's more about being torn up inside by a secret that isn't actually bad. Every Legion had traitors, the Dark Angels are the only ones who act like this is some horrific secret they must hide at all costs, and it's the secrecy that leads to all their problems.

But yeah Dark Angels are gay.

>>95973825
>Do they do whatever the fuck Tzeentch wants?
They already are.
You are too.

>>95973825
>Do they spread Nurgle's gift? Do they engage in degeneracy for Slaanesh? Do they do whatever the fuck Tzeentch wants?
yeah. And general Daemon stuff too

>>95973830
>>95973836
Do you think they're ever like "man we've been doing a lot of Khorne stuff lately, let's do some Slaanesh stuff this week instead"

>>95973825
Word Bearers are a bit different from the cult legion for each god because they aren't really debased in the same way. While the cult legions are basically slaves to their deity (whether they admit it or not) the Word Bearers are serving by choice, and in most cases are a lot smarter about it. They still maintain their goal, which is spreading the Word. So in a nutshell, I guess I would say what sets them apart from most of the other legions is "focus."

Until humanity as a whole is worshiping Chaos the same way they do, they have work to do.

>>95973857
Isn't it a bit silly for them to be like "yeah we worship the chaos god and you should too, but we don't want to be TOO close to them, because uuuuuhhhhhh... nevermind, just worship them"

>>95973774
It looks like you even get two heavy bolters in the kit

>>95973826
Yeah that’s the thing, at first I thought their mysterious nature was cool and I love green, so they seemed like a natural pick. Only to discover their “secret” was lame as fuck and kind of funny, only now they just go around acting entirely for their own interests and being assholes. It is funny but they seem almost too gay to collect

>>95973876
Yes, that's what I'm talking about. I have found two in the kit, and wasn't expecting two.

>>95973847
They usually have specific plans. Make this planet fall to chaos, unleash a Daemonic incursion on this station, make this Daemon owe you a favor, etc.

It's not just doing Khorne stuff, that's what World Eaters do. The Legions that have fully fallen to a Chaos god will just do that Chaos god's stuff for it's own sake. Word Bearers tend to be more strategic.

>>95973888
Neither was I, I thought they would be mostly locked in loadout.

Does anyone have the pdf for boarding actions?

>>95972824
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IbqVhEWUkSc

Dark Eldar are 100% goth club music.

>>95972824
Emperor's Children would be whatever is currently annoying. Ten years ago they were dubstep. I don't know what's annoying now but that's what they are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJVmu6yttiw

>>95973662
>Is the rock also named after a gay nightclub… tell me that one’s a lie at least
It is, The Rock is more likely a reference to the rocky hill that Nottingham Castle sits on.
There's several other places named Rock in Nottingham but these are usually references to Castle Rock, like Rock City, a music venue.

>Is there anything in Nottingham that could have inspired the myth by game of wargamer telephone?
The old gay club La Chic (and Part 2 ) location at Albion House on canal street is actually pretty close to Castle Rock.
>The phone box in Reception[of La Chic] was called the "Confessional" .. Part Two had its own chaplain

Extremely gay pdf about La Chic: https://irp.cdn-website.com/d95c84f4/files/uploaded/La%20Chic%2C%20Part%20Two.pdf

This article talks about various old gay bars and clubs around Nottingham.
https://leftlion.co.uk/features/2011/07/a-history-of-gay-nottingham-gay-up-me-duck/

>>95973909
This would definitely be blasted by noise marines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z97qLNXeAMQ

>>95972824
World Eaters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTVkLhHc160
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFfybn_W8Ak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy9r2qeouiQ

>>95973485
Not all are 10k vets, they still try making new people from their own or looted loyalist gene seed. And with crazy warp shenanigans, there could be anywhere from a Horus Heresy era guy who walked into a portal and ended up in modern day, someone from the future the same, etc. A CSM can be any age.

Also crazy warp fuckery ruins sanity and they don't have any Codex Astartes if Guilliman's book has any anti-CSM tricks every SM learns but not CSM. They're also individually more selfish and Eliphas will refuse to open the portal.

Unironically skibidi marine

Number 5 ready to go, just 25 left.
I experimented with different approach to painting the armor.
As first squad is ready, I have a question. Any ideas how to do the bases?

>>95973980

>>95972824
Replace some lyrics with Jaghatai or the Emperor.

https://youtu.be/6WlI24rv__g?si=34cl6_kb913R1tgk

>>95973998
I know this song is a meme at this point but it unironically goes hard as fuck

>>95973987
Very nice work. The covens are probably my favorite part of the Dark Eldar range even though I own the least of them and I really hope that they get some kind of refresh or even expansion in the near future.

Why are 40keks like this?

>>95974024
very cool twitter screenshot have you considered going back and staying there

>>95974024
gw has killed the hobby side of warhammer in order to sell more plastic to retarded people
writing articles about how to make stuff from cardboard and random trash? but you could just buy "Jew Workshop Premium Plants!" for $200 instead!

>>95974043
samefag less

>>95974024
More like waacfags to be honest.
I’d rather play an amazing looking board that puts me at a disadvantage than a fair ugly board.

>>95972824
Votann theme https://youtu.be/US64BWvy0kY?si=ri1XJK67uCIBOm8Y

>>95972824
Exodites = Amish Paradise

>>95974024
40k game rules are dogshit where ranged armies delete everything turn one if they have line of sight so the only way to make the GAME playable is to do shit on the right. Blame the retarded developers not players.

It's too bad exodites can't produce wraithbone since that would require them to establish the industrial base prerequisite for mineral extraction, which is a necessity for mineral compound materials like wraithbone. But I suppose they might make do with other, inferior psychoplastics. Although the great knight platforms they were once known for would be of lower quality as a consequence of such a compromise.

Playing a local tournament in two weeks. Over half of the players are death guard with poxwalker spam, 6" deep strike Deathshroud downstars and 3x bloat drones. What the fuck can I do against this trash

>Legion of the Damned used to have official models
Damn they feel like a quintessential lore only group of Marines. Would be neat kit to get a refresh, perfect for Kill Team. Though they’d probably would be like the Nemesis Claw box and never ever be in stock.

>>95974108
They do have tech like medical.

>>95974111
what army do you play

>>95972824
I'd like to imagine Tzeentch every now and then swap ancient lost dataslates or STCs with nothing but a recording of https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

Just when you've found some incredible STC fragment, you've found that instead.

>>95972824
>drum and bass
>arppegiated synths for lasguns
>bass for artillery and the rumble of machines of war
>drums are uncomfortably fast, but those are our marching orders
>no matter how nasty it gets, your boys are there on the dance floor and they got your back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWt2jEeNdbQ

>>95974140
CSM. Running CoB that's heavy on possessed and Chosen.

>>95974158
just bring angron

>>95974168

>>95974173
3 triple plas forgefiends

>>95974111
idk, go read Goonhammer or something.

This general really is just to shit post and do anything but talk about the game huh

>>95974308
reply to my posts first you stupid bitch

>>95974308
Pretty much, yeah.

>>95974308
You can talk about the edition sucking I guess

>>95974022
I like this mad scientist/wannabe god vibe in Covens.
Some elite infantry options would be nice, like unit of Acothysts or at least possibility to field wracks as heavy units equipt with one type of gun.

Painting up some Ultramarine named characters as a break from painting up my army.
Is there a certain way you are supposed to paint Primaris so they look nice?
I'v just been >base >shade >drybrush colour 1 > drybrush colour 2 >return with base for clean up.
It looks alright especially when i put it on my poorly illuminated shelf but i wanna know if there is a better way.

I wish I could just buy 50 Dark lances and never have to care about this shit again

>>95972653
Just like Daemons had their own models and they're now removed from the storefront and legions can only play them in a purposefully weak weak detachment.
The entire problem is that GW has decided they hate models that can be used in different systems. A predator and a "Deimos" predator look almost the identical, no one cares which one you bring to a game and most people won't even be able to tell unless they're marinefags. But one model is newer than the other so the chances of the predator getting put into legends and the model discontinued are very high, so people with predators cannot play them in both systems.

>>95972789 (OP)
>TQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeWDEAOx6vo

>>95974420
Demons never had their own models in 40k

Alright I'll leave the vote for next months project here and repost it every thread til monday. Hope this works.
https://strawpoll.com/bVg8Bm591yY

Yes I will play EC as a shooting army

>>95974024
Just play 4th with 3rd army list.
Today I had a game of Witch Hunters vs Emperor's Children. Next week will try Genestealer cult vs Lost and the Damed

>>95974476
STOP MAKING THE LASCANNONS FIRE INTO THE DISEMBARKING TROOPS
SPONSONS GO ON THE FRONT DOORS

>>95974476
You own no EC

>>95974484
>Genestealer Cult vs Lost and the Damned
Sounds incredibly kino, take pics please

>love putting models together
>hate painting
what's the easiest route

>>95974513
sponging.

>>95974513
Spray white and contrast paints then details
Or
Spray black and dry brush then details.

>>95974513
Depends on what you're going for. Either prime white and then do Contrast paints, or prime your base color and drybrush a bunch and then do details traditionally

>>95974513
This tends to be a more common sentiment with beginners so I'm going to assume you're the same. I'd suggest finding a few super effective recipes for important colours and rely on them as much as possible until you get better

>>95974424
Cute space wolves

>>95974420
sovl sovless

>>95974474
Hmm, current top choice is an interesting one, problem is I've painted something from almost every faction. Except Knights. And I don't want to do a Knight.

So I'll just let whoever gets dubs in reply to this decide what faction I paint. No Knights.

>>95974513
Could be worse
>love painted models
>never feel like painting models
Most people just do that slap chop thing when they hating painting models

>>95974566
This, but the sovl one is the Deimos, since its actually the original remade in newer plastic.

>>95974599
Ultramarines. Paint a generic captain like the box art.

>>95974622
He shoots he scores lol

>>95974599
oof, I literally decided like three days ago I need to stop buying models except for the Emperor's Children and Cities of Sigmar until I get both of those built out to 2,000 points.

>>95974513
lego might be a better hobby for you

>>95974420
It is odd that gw uses traitor colours as the default for 30k stuff.

>>95974645
Could always cheat a bit and buy another faction unit to kitbash into a custom cities or EC character.

>>95974622
>dubs first try
Goddammit.

I'm happy people are voting, interest felt a bit lukewarm there a while.

>>95974474
What counts as elite squad? Comes in 3s?

>>95974654
>Horus Heresy
>Sons of Horus are the box art marines
Makes sense to me, though they share that position with the Imperial Fists.
And apparently Iron Warriors/Salamanders for 3.0.

>>95974513
Slopchop and airbrushing

>>95974671
I imagine terminator equivalent units. You know, big boys.

>>95974671
I was about to say "an Elites choice obviously" and then I remembered this dogshit fucking edition DOESN'T EVEN HAVE BATTLEFIELD ROLES ANYMORE LMFAO

Why is 10th so fucking cringe

>>95974686
>>95974687
So like wraithguard or incubi for my armies I guess

I voted for Elite squad

>>95974695

>>95974694
Sounds about right.

>>95974695
Me too. I'm already rotating Noise Marines in my mind

>>95974694
Dark Eldar have five elite choices.
You can't buy three of them anymore though so it's either Incubi or Mandrake, but Mandrakes are locked into an expensive 10 model Killt-eam box

>>95974710
I'll probably do noise marines too if elites win.

>>95973021
I put my suggestion (and submission) in last thread
I think mounted units would be neat but otherwise my vote goes for elites

>>95974744
Shit I knew I forgot something. It'll be on the next poll for sure.

>>95974763
all good boss, hopefully many months ahead for it have a shot

>>95974771
Hopefully by the time we get to that one my army has a mounted unit available

>>95974513
Find a friend who likes painting but hates assembling. Win-win.

>>95974695
do tzaangor count

On a whim I bought a box of deathwatch veterans, any suggestions for their loadout?
Also which chapters are the biggest dicks? The kit has shoulder pads for flesh tearers, iron hands, and technically brazen minotaurs but I think I can get away with making him from the minotaurs. Marines Malevolent obviously comes to mind but I might save him for next box.

>>95974784
Enlightened probably can?

What's the deal with Chaos? Are you really going to eschew *all* forms of order from your life, just to be chaotic? Even if you're aligned with the incomprehensible power of the warp, you still put your underwear on *before* your power armor right? And you still compose your sentences in an order people can understand, don't you? You gotta communicate at the most basic level if you're going to organize another Black Crusade, right?? And just because you worship the Dark God Tzeentch, Lord of Entropy, you're still going to load all the bullets in your bolter the ''correct'' direction right? Would that be too consistent to fit in? I know it would really stick it to the big guy in the chair and everything he stands for if you swung your chain axe with your non-dominant hand, but you know what I think what might just drive the point home a little stronger? Actually hitting the guy you're swinging at maybe? Because I mean, at some fundamental level, there has to be a line. A line where everyone in the cult agrees that, this guy, this behavior, is just too chaotic. Just way too wacky for the cause, a complete embarrassment to the wispy lords of the warp. I mean just the other day I saw the World Eaters go on another bender. Blood on their armor, blood in their shoes, watercoolers of blood getting poured on everyone like it's the Superbowl. "Blood for the blood god! Blood for the blood god!" It's all fun and giggles until one of them steps in a man-sized pot hole and drowns, in blood! "But Jerry, they love the blood! Khorne loves it! That brave champion of the Lord of Skulls just died doing what he loves!" Be that as it may, you're supposed to murder! Not *marinate*!

>terrain at 1 vote
Sorry poorfag friends I tried.

>>95972899
wait for the grey knights codex if you want termies imo

>Typhon box shorted me a 25mm base for the servitors

Not the end of the world as I've got plenty lying around but still.

>>95974843
I never watched seinfeld but I'll take your word for it.

>>95974513
>fucking hate assembling miniatures
>love painting and the tabletop game

>>95974843

>>95974843
Because its cool

>tq
For Necrons I would definitely say this is our Triarch/TSK theme. Might have been a shit movie but a great tomb king/ biotransference Necron theme. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mcGR3rSFkQY

I'm going to paint a Court of the Archon with a kitbashed Archon so whatever the result I come out on top.

>>95974513
>love building
>love painting
>love playing
this is my hobby there are many like it but this one is mine

>>95973021
Flying unit

>>95973021
Objective marker

>>95975108
I change my vote to this

>>95975092
>>95975108
>>95975109
Too late, sorry lads. I'll add it to the next vote.

>>95975132
Cool

How come the CSM never mix and match the gods the worship? I want to see NightLords with Nurgles blessing

>>95975160
Thats usually something you have to do, GW wont actually do anything cool. Also, NL wont mingle with specific chaos gods because they arent chaotic really, so that's kinda impossible to even home-brew.

>>95975185
What if youre an eldar and you want to worship Chaos but youre not into the tranny god? Can they pick Khorne or tzenchendbehrbdhsunsnszz?

>>95975195
tranny god kinda already has their sovl, so I dont think so.

>>95975195
Picking Khorne when your people already have a bloodthirsty war god you can dedicate yourself to seems like an odd choice

>>95974607
Literally me anon.
I can only paint when I am happy and it is rare of me to be in that state.

>>95975195
Yes, it's one of the only ways to save themselves from Slaanesh, is to trade that damnation for a different kind. The Croneworld Eldar are suspected to be worshippers of the other 3 major powers, but are never really fleshed out anywhere.

>>95975195
According to a recent thing, there are Chaos Eldar including Eldar who embraced the newborn Slaanesh as their creation and became Daemon Princes.

>>95975185
Night Lords have been floating in the Eye of Terror for centuries, I guarantee you there are some who have fallen to Chaos gods.

GW literally released a novel just to explain to the fanbase that you don't need to run Alpha Legion as the stereotypical sneaky keikaku meme. They were a full Legion and they've been hanging out in the Eye of Terror for centuries, there are vehicle-heavy AL warbands, AL warbands that have fallen to specific gods, there are all kinds of AL warbands.

I feel like GW is going to have to do a book like this for every Legion to convince people these armies are a lot more flexible than their most memey representation suggests

If the chaos gods are real and are REALLY manifesting their gifts onto people in 40k. What is the emperor doing? As a human in the military of the imperium, what proof do I have that the emperor is doing anything at all to stop chaos? He isn't making space marines grow wings or manifesting miracles. Whereas, you can see a chaos mother fucker miraculously spawn giant talons or whatever to rip you a new asshole. The Imperium would have a far easier time getting people to believe if some actual wild positive shit would just happen. Yet it all boils down to "Yeah man, just use your lasgun against this chaos daemon and pray to the emperor(who don't answer you.)" Meanwhile chaos people spawning guns out of orifice on their bodies etc.

>>95975243
What did you just type, I’m incapable of reading

>>95974794
Make the fifth one a Salamanders or Lamenter that gets relentlessly put down or talked over by the others while actually being an Alpha Legion operative in disguise

>>95975243
Uh...
Why is a SON OF VULKAN wearing Alpha legion wargear?

>>95974794
It would be cool to make your team be chapters from anons ITT.

>>95975267
Make them all Alpha legion in disguise

>>95975268
Stolen geneseed obviously. Or brainwashed marine.

>>95975207
That actually sounds like a natural progression if anything, there's enough eldar lore about craftworlders getting murderfuck-mad either through Aspect warrior rituals, the Avatar awakening, or sitting out in a soulstone on a croneworld too long. Iirc wraithblades are permenantly kept outside the Infinity circuit because their anger would pollute it.

Plenty of narrative fodder to go off the rails into khorne worship imo. The obvious downside is that he hates psykers and will probably send a Flesh hound after you.

>>95973553
god willing never, they're perfect as is

>>95973736
4, 7 if battleline.

>>95975160
They do though WB frown upon it.

Night Lords are fractured as fuck. It would be the easiest thing in the world to do a piratical warband of Night Lords who got too into the sadism and fell to Slaanesh. Abandoning the pretense is a theme of the legion.

Nurgle's trickier, I guess lean into Curze's depression and fatalistic outlook.

To make Kharn would it be better to add a zerker helmet/plasmapistol to a Eightbound?

or get the actual Kharn model. I hate the running pose.

>>95975328
imo Eightbound are too recognizably Eightbound for just a head and arm swap to make it read as anything other than another Eightbound.

>>95975328
just chop him up and make him into his classic pose

>>95975251
The Sisters of Battle do have their prayers answered though. The Emeperor as a god is a interesting subject as to whether he’s the one actually answering the prayers, but in universe the perception is that he is.

>>95975328
The rule of thumb for making any Khorne character conversion for any game is: start with the Slaughterpriest with Hackblade model

>get lucius tonight
>need a kakophonist and my army is pretty much done (need the cp too but thats available in a lot of places)
>Look online
>kakophonist is sold out pretty much everywhere

Why the fuck is this guy so wanted?

>>95975350
It's rather funny how Cathay Dragons, AoS Sigmar, and others all independently realized funneling worship to powerful figures able to resist Chaos works better than forced atheism. Emprah's the one guy who tried and failed this route.

>>95974494
"Lol," said Slaanesh. "Lmao!"

>>95975267
>>95975272
I was thinking of adding a dead lamenter to the minotaur's base and have the marines malevolent "reclaiming" a dead salamander's gear.
>It would be cool to make your team be chapters from anons ITT.
But anons' dudes are cool, I want my dudes to be massive dicks.
>spoilers
that could work as a blackshield. He has patches of blue peeking through and some bits that hint at his true allegiance.

>>95975328
Get the kharn model and a CSM with an appropriate pose and put the kharn bits on him. Gonna take some cutting but shouldn't be rocket surgery.

>>95975328
I'm disappointed 30k Kharn is just his de-Chaosified 40k model, rather than taking inspiration from the art.

>>95975243
>Mike Brooks
It's trash. Throw it out. Whatever is in that book isn't worth even glancing at.

>>95975405
I liked it. The plot is on Alpha Legion guy being like, "Guys. I know we are extremely good at being sneaky. We have all sorts of complex plans and are super sneaky and that's really great. But at some point we should try winning some wars"

Any grey knights players here? How fun is it to play? How fun are they to paint? Are they super annoying to fight against? Do you ignore some of the cringe lore?

>>95975415
I don't care if the plot is good or not if the writer is shit and cannot execute.

>>95975385
30k kharn predates the new 40k kharn

>>95975425
I painted a couple Grey Knights once, they are super fun to paint. The basic metal armor is very easy to get looking good with simple base coat, wash, drybrush. And the recessed name plates look fantastic with a dark Contrast to make the crevices super dark and a simple gold on the letters

>>95975430

>>95975439
Ah okay thank you, honestly that’s what I was wondering most, since their color scheme is arguably simpler than any other “chapter”, so I figured it would be a bore

>>95975443
Yes and?
The heresy kharn model came out like 2-3 years before the new 40k kharn

>>95975461
And I said nothing about the new 40k Kharn, you brought him up.

>>95975469
You're talking about how the 30k kharn is the just de-chaosified 40k model in the same pose retard

>>95975459
It is pretty simple, but imo they're in a sweet spot where you get great results very fast, but the end result isn't as boring as, say, Custodes.

Plus the individual heraldry gives you a chance to really get in there and do cool patterns and stuff.

>>95972925
No.
Custodes are not like spess muhreens whereby the imperium takes a candidate, fill them with gene organs and hopes they survive. They're made using a process that transforms them into something completely different from regular humans. Something happens not only to their body, but also to their soul, as indicated by Emps desire to use them as a template for future humanity to resist the taint of the warp.
They're flesh androids basically. Not human in any meaningful sense.

>>95975472
>in the same pose retard
Nowhere did I refer in any way to the new model or its pose, because I was not talking about the new model. You're just making shit up to not sound like a retard who got mad over nothing.

Imperial agents expansion is coming...
I can feel it...

>>95975304
Why are they laying in cat litter

>>95975357
You don't have any EC nobody cares about them

>>95975501
Oh yes you're definitely talking about the him being "de-chaosified" while posting an image (the singular depiction of him with that armor design with all the rest showing something resembling what he eventually got on his model) while ignoring the fact that that armor in your image is infinitely more a "de-chaosified" version of kharn than the sculpt we got you fucking mongoloid

>>95975502
>You will never relive the absolute kino that was the Daemonhunters 3e codex

>>95975502
Imperial agents more like Venerial Aidsmen lmfaooo

>>95975516
I'll give you 1/10 for trying to save face by changing the topic.

>>95975545
>goalposts
you don't even know what the terms you're trying to use mean lmao

>>95975357
There are only three generic EC HQs, one of them has been in every combo box and the other is a generic CSM model.

>>95975549
Just ignore him, he's just pretending to be retarded to own you and it's kind of working

>>95973016
I like the direction you were going, maybe you should try your hand at milliput and see if you like it better? Greenstuff is rubbery, milliput is like clay. Rule of thumb
>greenstuff for organic surfaces
>milliput for non-organic surfaces (it holds an edge and sharp angle much better)
You can also mix the two. For something like that helmet, I would actually recommend hybrid, then aim to do some of the sharper details after the putty has cured, by cutting and sanding. Greenstuff doesnt sand well after its cured, but you can cut it nicely. Milliput cuts porely after its cured cause its brittle, but it can be carved slowly and sands perfectly.

tldr: try sculpting the rough shape and clean it with the hobby knive and sanding sticks after its dried.

Ive also taken to carving sprue goo in the same way.

>>95975532
Tell me anon, what was it like?
I was but a child into Bionicle during those days.
>t. 26

>>95975565
>just pretending to be retarded
"trolls" still do that?

>>95975578
>Tell me anon, what was it like?
creativity reigned free and there was an absolute overflow of soul. We didn't realize how lucky we had it

>>95975578
They're just wrong on purpose and farm (You)s from people correcting them.

I now wish to own 100 arbiters. Is the kit known for having mold lines or the such?

You all remember when 10th launch was coming, and GW was marketing the Battle for Oghram, and we thought it was going to be another proper Global Campaign like they did for the Third Armageddon War and the Fall of Medusa? And then they just fucking did nothing with it at all? One of the greatest disappointments of all time.

I've been going through the Armageddon Campaign website on the wayback machine reliving the glory days. Holy fucking shit man it really was even higher effort than I thought. Interactive maps of like 15 different regions, lore pages on all of the forces involved, a whole fucking space map with added rules for Battlefleet Gothic, weekly news updates for each location and in-setting fluff describing how the real-world fighting was going... look what they fucking took from us. Why can't GW do something like that again?

>>95975303
What has Fabius done that's supposedly repulsed even the chaos gods? The dude is just a whack scientist that cloned some bodies what's the reason he's some reviled arch-traitor

>>95975385
My bro built his whole combat patrol in one day! He’s hooked!

>>95975629
Fyre slayer anon this looks really gay. Not in a ram ranch kind of gay, but a astfolo kind of gay.

>>95975629
I did not mean to reply to anyone

>>95975641
I am still learning as a newfag and have no idea what you mean, also its meant to be a black panther in honor of Chadwick Bosman who died of rectal cancer from his gayness

>>95975511
This might be the least interesting meme in this entire thread.

What would it take for someone in a hive to be elevated to the top levels of a hive city with the rulers? Not from the lower levels of the hive I mean, but more from the middle. Like going from "middle class" to "high class or rich?"

>>95975655
A gun and a lot of ammunition

>>95975655
Alot of backstabbing and currying favor

>>95975629
I can look past the head, it's not to my tastes but you do you, that basing however is awful, the purple flowers growing up out of the mud like that just look super jarring

>>95975655
Finding an STC or other important piece of Archaeotech is an option. ALthough good luck making sure somebody above you doesn't just take it from you.

And if you are especially good looking I guess you could be part of a harem and hope you become the parent to an heir.

Maybe becoming a military hero and getting covered in medals.

>>95975672
Dude the purp flowers are how the black panther gets his powers, I had no choice! Also the basing is unfinished here

>>95975328
I made a quick kitbash of it. Nightlord for scale. The shoulderpad goes on plasma pistol arm. The chains on hip and wrist. I'll wrap a jewellery chain around his wrist as well.

Ill give him a tactical rock out of cork as well. I don't have anything to do The tassels from his helmet though.

>>95975629
Thats a lot of decals you have there

>>95972789 (OP)
>TQ
Necrons are /mydudes/ and I would make this the theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYpktNeeLGM

>>95975685
What? This is nothing, I am being conservative here.

>tfw the inquisitor finds the poop vault

>>95972824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMRK2A6bXrs

I have three gravis captains. What can I do with them?

>>95975736
you only need one, but just about every space marine detachment has a way to turn this dude into a lone op monster
gladius can give him the artificer armor enhancement so he gets a 2+ save and 5+ fnp, with his innate high toughness, invuln, and -1 damage he is harder to take out than a squad of ten terminators

>>95975736
Chop them up and use them as trophies for your Deldar army

>>95975625
His adamantium fedora can be tipped so hard he (barely) survived Slaanesh looking at him for a minute.

>>95972824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SgJtiNU2rw
this is the official theme of the iron hands, I will not be convinced otherwise

>>95975599
Do you mean arbites? Also all kits have mould lines but because their kit is pretty new it shouldn't be too bad

>>95975736
Which versions? Make them into a blinged out Veteran Aggressor or Veteran Eradicator squad.

>>95975623
>I've been going through the Armageddon Campaign website on the wayback machine reliving the glory days. Holy fucking shit man it really was even higher effort than I thought. Interactive maps of like 15 different regions, lore pages on all of the forces involved, a whole fucking space map with added rules for Battlefleet Gothic, weekly news updates for each location and in-setting fluff describing how the real-world fighting was going... look what they fucking took from us. Why can't GW do something like that again?
Because they did the work to make all of that stuff and no-one cared

>>95975805
Literally tens of thousands of people played the Armageddon campaign and still talk about it to this day sometimes, what the fuck do you mean no one cared

>>95975629
Another decalslop pile with a dog ass base, another easily accessible gap that could been filled. Goes together like pb & j

>>95975809
Misread, thought you were still talking about oghram my b

>>95975629
>can't play pickup games because they'd recognize your obvious dogwhistles
>can't play with friends due to lack of friends
>big bwudder wiw you pway space maweens wid me and drive me to geedubbowyu
Lmfao

>>95975845
why did this get pinned

Wow Illia is too good but Olivera’s chin is toast

>>95975845
Umm what?

>>95975850
Posts that are actually funny are so seldom on /tg/ that it autopins anything actually humorous, but you rarely see it here

>>95975845
Kek

>>95975742
I suddenly realized I don't know anything about list building in 10th edition

>built
15 intercessors
1 gravis captain
1 lieutenant
1 leftenant
1 guy with a flag (ancient?)

>to build
2 more identical gravis captains
10 hellblasters
everything that was in the shadowspear box set
everything that was in the indomitus box set

>>95975801
the original fixed pose one in the image with the power sword

>>95975866
What’s funny I don’t get it?

>>95975874
I would have kept the banner off the ancient while you painted it. It can be a pain getting in behind it to hit certain parts of the head, parts like the armpits and belt also a little annoying

>>95975896
If you don't get it then you're probably the same as him lmao

>>95975904
Oh ok

>>95975874
on one hand there's the general rule of "play what you like" but at the end of the day, even the most casual game is competitive
I'd start getting an understanding for how each detachment plays
you're not wholly committed to anything yet, so even consider some of the divergent chapters
I will tell you this: get your hands on at least a squad of jump pack intercessors, two is better, and one squad of scouts (you'll have to buy these in 10 so whatever)
these are essential units for every space marine list, they will do literally everything and let you be able to run all the fun shit you ever wanted

Anyone else painting tonight?

>>95975923
Not painting but building my land raider. God this kit is old, I think it took me 2 hours per las cannon array just to clean them up.

>>95975934
Yea I got a couple of them, total pain in the asses

>>95975923
Painting ur mums coochie white with my dih maybe

>>95975923
You don't paint your miniatures, you get them all commissioned at the lowest tier which is why they all look consistently ass

>>95975945
Real classy anon, i’m sure your own mother would be thrilled with that kind of talk.

>>95975944
I was lucky enough to finally find one of the death company combo boxes on ebay for under 100 dollars (was a limited run for about 1a year that comes with both the godhammer and the crusader sprues) so I can magnetize it up nicely.

>>95975953
Wow anon what a nasty rumor to spread

>>95975959
Awesome brother!

>>95975913
80 dollars for one box what in the god damn happened the past few years??? and the phobos guys aren't a good substitute? I really need to fix my 3d printer...

>>95975923
Got a little bit of work done on my Skitarii rangers but other than that I'm just being a lazy fatass mostly

>>95975961
Maybe you shouldn't have told all of us if you didn't want people to know about it

>>95975971
Hey man we live in the craziest of times so you live how you wanna live brother!

>>95975954
I'm sure your dad gonna be thrilled with my dih and gonna be bouncing and doing tricks on it

>>95975981
Wow real nice anon, you make me sick

>>95975987
>you make me sick
Por que, you should want your parents to be happy.

How retarded or fun is the idea of stuffing a 3 lictors, a neurolictor and a deathleaper inside a tyrannocyte and dropping that bitch turn 1 or 2 in the middle of the opponents army backfield?

>>95975629
i'm going to keep it a buck with you: your shit stinks but it could be improved a lot with some weathering and chipping for next to no effort

>>95976000
Ty my brother, I appreciate your criticism

>>95975994
I don't know what any of those things do anymore but it sounds less retarded and less fun than 2000pts of gargoyles, harpies and flyrants

>>95976000
Don't respond to it, it makes everything worse the more you interact with it

>>95975845
I've seen so many horror stories of neckbeards breaking shit or anons talking about how they steal shit from conventions or LGS that I don't want to have games at the LGS.

>my sister plays DnD 5e and I'm considering asking her to try Warhammer 40k with me I can't stand the average TTS player.

>>95976009
Aren't gargoyles full on metafag units?

>>95975923
this shit fucking sucks

>>95976000
>weathering and chipping for next to no effort
Not the anon but beyond sponge chipping and sponge mud effects and watering down brown paint to a milk consistency and spreading it across metallic parts to resemble rust, what other idiot proof weathering/chipping methods are there?

>>95976017
No clue, I play with metal bawkses built for squishing bugs. I know they were in 8th, no clue if they're back to being nutty again but 2000pts of flight stands is the most retarded thing you could ever do to yourself

>>95976018
Ok nomodels :)

40k>30k

>>95976034
yes anon, 40 thousand is a larger number than 30 thousand, great observation

Almost done I think.

>>95976021
>watering down brown paint to a milk consistency and spreading it across metallic parts to resemble rust
Don't do that. Use a colour that resembles rust, or at the very least a brown with a lot of orange in it. Hairspray chipping is really really easy, but also super inconsistent. Oil washes are pretty stellar and there's enough prepared oil products these days that there's no excuse to ignore them. Same deal with enamels.

>>95976009
Why less fun?
:(

>>95976027
That sure would be convenient for you if I was a nomodels but unfortunately for you that ls not the case

>>95976043
your highlights are getting better sallyman

>>95976071
Lamenteranon why are you picking fights at 2 A.M? Is your BPD really that bad?

>>95976071
Well done my nig

>>95976069
Flying is the kino version of deepstrike cause your opponents have to watch your shit zoom across the table for all of turn one in a giant cloud.

>>95976075
And every model takes 5x as long to finish kek.

Lamenterfag is suicidal

>>95976071
Been a while since we had a good old fashioned lamentersanon mogging

N

I

>>95976071
>defending the decalmutant
what a fall from grace

>>95976044
>Use a colour that resembles rust, or at the very least a brown with a lot of orange in it.
Noted.
>Hairspray chipping
I had to look that up. Looks pretty doable and I do use a hairspray for speeding up the drying of my models.
>Oil washes are pretty stellar and there's enough prepared oil products these days that there's no excuse to ignore them
>no excuse to ignore them
I have pets and I fear them somehow getting to my acrylic paints and consuming them. That's why I skip on oils and enamels. Maybe one day.

Thank you though, anon.
And thank you for the modelposting to back it up.

G

>lamenter anon enters the thread
>golden demon fag resorts to racist spamming
wild times

>>95976103
Wat, I'm both of these are you retarded?
>>95976071
>>95976018

>>95976043
pretty neat anon

>>95975923
Richfags deserve the rope

>>95976109
It's the decalslopper. He does it every single time that people dunk on him to varying degrees.

>>95976120
Schizo behavior

>>95976123
Brother the last time you did this we watched 400+ posts of yours disappear when the jannies shot you, you can't memory hole us lmao

So Elite squad is next months collage right?

>>95976132
Apparently he's doing another poll on monday, so I don't know what that means for the results of today's poll or how that will interact with the next one. Honestly seems like the anon running it is in a bit of a rush rn or is pretty busy with life

>>95975923
No I’m too tired

>>95976130
Honestly, simply posting one of his awful models should deserve a ban

>>95975251
Most Chaos worshippers are regular cultists. They too have the "pray hard and GL" deal going for them. A khornate cultist basically are handed a blunt sword and are told to charge a golden demigod kicking tanks while praying to Khorne.
The Emperor does answer prayers in the form of Sister of Battle saints and miracles, and the Black Templars for example, who prayed so hard one of them gets a cheat code power boost to be the best swordman in the chapter of swordsmen.
Most people on both sides have their prayers unanswered, but the Emperor do grant boons and miracles.
Also its a trope where the Devil exists and is active but God works in mysterious ways. Except the Emperor is much less mysterious.

>>95976148
Calm down sissyboi

>>95976071
>/ourgirl/ taking the heat to shit on the mutt
based lamentits stays winning
>>95976148
Unfortunately he plays with his models like kids toys fairly frequently, so he has probably thousands of unique photos of the same shit rearranged on the same table that won't get the same janny attention for avatarfagging as posting the same filename over and over would

After Space Wolves what is the most loyal Space Marine faction?

>>95976159
So gay lmao….

>>95976159
>lamentits
It's a man

>>95976148
This but unironically. Maybe if we started a change.org petition asking for the decalsloppers permanent ban and then sent that to the jannies they'd hook us up with the best gift they could ever give us

>>95976170
Never happening tranon

>>95976162
Marines malevolent, grey Knights, minotaurs and carcharodons
You may not like out methods, but loyalty is unflinching and results are there.

>>95976169
We've seen her breasts before and they're far too large to be a male, definitely a fat girl, but they're too round to be a dude or transformer

>>95976178
It's a man
He got some retarded woman to pose with his shit ass model ONCE

Salamanders

>>95976181
Lmfao you're so desperate for anything to own her after she btfo you that you're making up narratives in your head so you don't have to feel as bad

Undisputed

>>95976181
Oh no is decalmutt seething again~?

>>95973219
Got the base color for the camo down.

>>95976191
Schizo..

>>95976174
Marines malevolent is not loyal at all lmao
They should be censured and possibly classified as renegades
Also minotaurs are only loyal to the high lords of terra, they killed a fucking custodes

>>95976191
As per usual, doesn't take much. He has a very fragile ego which is the same reason he throws tantrums every time he's excluded or dunked on too hard

>>95976195
Your headcanon doesn't matter.

>>95976198
Smaefagging wont save you faggot

Christ is King - Candace Owens

>>95976203
Uh oh, decalmutt melty lmfaoooo

>>95976192
The little chin turret made me think of the Vulture Mk.II from Battletech.

>>95976195
Nice head canon, MM are loyalist to the bone, but you don't like it because they are mean.
And killing cuckstodes is the obligation of any loyal servant of the imperium. Motherfuckers are useless moping retards that let the imperium slip into the state it is right now and still act like pompous assholes while in their palace cuck cave

>>95976207
Wrong guy faggot

>>95976218
No it's not lmfao, not a single person here would ever defend the decalmutt. He melts down so often that everyone has witnessed him being a little botch at least once.

>>95976222
Schizo

>decalfag gets mogged
>20-30mins of melting down followed by
>hmm you know I've never seen this decalguy, but actually I think he's very based, and cool, and handsome
Why do you do this, you're aware noone buys it right

>>95976235
Schizo……..

>>95976217
>inspired to look up some MM stuff
>veteran markings include hazard striped
Confirmed IW successors and heretics the lot of them. Now question about it.

>>95976208
Yeah I was thinking of something like Metal Gear Rex/ BT Clan mechs (like the Madcat) when trying to approach the question of
"How do I make the Stormsurge look less stupid?"

I had to bash some unique feet since the originals kept on snapping >:(

>>95975243
So Tzeentch AL anon was right...

Biden 2028

>>95976231
Okay, why don't you show us your models and prove to us that you aren't him, otherwise just bend over and take the L. You're so willing to stand up for him, you aren't such a coward that you'd hide after claiming other people are samefagging are you?

>>95976162
Black Templars of course! Fighting on a hundred fronts to preserve the imperiums borders and defend countless worlds from endless xeno and chaos incursions

>>95976235
It literally ever time too, I don't know who he thinks he's tricking lol

>>95976268
>Lol lmao lmfao ahahahbbq!!!!

Jesus christ anon…

>decalfag posts literally anything
>schizo mental breakdown, I WIN I WIN I WIN spam as they race to have the last word before a new thread
>everyone who doesn't like this is my sworn enemy
imagine what would happen if you simply did NOT reply to every last one of his posts pissing and moaning like an 11 year old girl

Good Night Anons!

>>95976284
>uh oh Schizo melty!

>>95976289
This is why you were never going to make it onto that dude's fridge collage even with infinite resets

>>95976289
that sums up what i am saying yes, get a grip you fucking failure of a man

>>95976295
You are so nasty

>>95976308
i think everyone in the thread thats had enough of these arguments should just start using the report function as intended

>>95976313
Or maybe you could just be quiet, jeez!

>>95976318
>>95976308
Seriously what fucking condition do you have that makes you post these complete nonreplies to everything, you cannot let things go, you may as well just post
>no
to everything, why don't you take your own advice what the fuck is wrong with you what more do you think you are adding to this?

>>95976328
Will you shut up already you schizo freak?!

>>95976328
Drink some water anon, you’ll be alright.

Just ban the decalfaggot for fucks sake

>>95976333
Kys ffs…

>>95976329
Has this ever worked for you? How many times wkll you try it?

>>95976338
Who do you think you’re talking too anon?

>>95976342
some anonymous parrot that gained the ability to type

CLEAN IT UP JANNIES

>gosh conflict just makes me so like uncomfortable guys really triggers the ol 'tism hehe why can't we all just get along
sissyhammer
reddithammer

Hey remember when the decalfaggot got so mad about being banned from the fridge he threatened to contact the mods of /tg/ thinking they had any control over that
Lmao

>>95976369
Why are you so gey

I dont own a single space wolf, and always thought them to be pretty silly (wolf riders, santa sledge, wolfi-wolf wolfson etc), but GW really did a good job with the range update. Logan is 10/10, the other characters look good and while the old wolf terminators were pretty much the best models of the old range, the new ones are just as good.

>>95976369
No one gives a shit about the fridge only the guy who posts it for his little ego boost

>>95976151
>A khornate cultist basically are handed a blunt sword and are told to charge a golden demigod kicking tanks while praying to Khorne.

By whom? Are you pretending your own headcanon is universally true?

Does anyone have any official examples of Dark Angels using alternative company markings? Their company markings are just recoloured Codex markings with a swap between 6th and 7th for some reason.
In all codexes GW shows almost all Chapters using a variety of alternative company markings despite being Codex compliant. Even Ultramarines are not following the Codex to the letter and paint their knee pads instead of shoulder pads' trim or use company-coded colours for their squad markings.
With Dark Angels I can't find even a single picture of alternative company markings like painting a whole knee pad black for the 5th company despite their Codexes mentioning their markings to be esoteric and convoluted because of the inner circle shit.

>>95976385
lmao keep thinking that mutant

>>95976385
I care, it's a fun community project.

I'm curious will anyone accept if I convert the Psychophage into the other models?

Like a trygon with a body made to look snake like under the torso with the head angled differently?

Are blood angels cool or gay?

>>95976385
I cared a bit before because it was nice seeing my dude up on the fridge and then seeing how mad it made this one redditor that he was barred from it made me care even more
>>95976400
nobody would care as long as the size profile was somewhat similar
>>95976404
They're cool when not being painted by our two (only one now thankfully) resident shitposters

>>95976385
Unironically the only one who has an issue with it is the single person banned from it. Everyone else is welcome so there's no reason anyone else would take offense to it

>>95975251
Acts of Faith, living saints, BT and Mortificators meditating for visions from the Emperor, Emperor's Tarot, etc. There used to be the Sensei who could even become equivalents of daemon princes. Thorians believe the Emperor's spirit wanders the Warp and grants portions of his power to worthy individuals, resulting in saints and miracles.
>>95975366
>Emprah's the one guy who tried and failed this route.
Almost like he wasn't anti-religion until BL turbo autists decided to make him a militant atheist like they themselves, resulting in all sorts of retarded shit when they tried to keep stuff from the old fluff as well.

I have no issue with the fridge other than I should be on it but if the lefties don’t want it then so be it

>>95976404
I think anything can be cool with the right paintjob and the right player piloting it

>>95976421
Are you trying to claim that every other modelposter besides you is a lefty. You're not that naive are you?

>>95976421
It’s a political assassination!

>>95976408
Psychophages are cheap as fuck right now because of the two box sets including the literal who unit nobody wants.

>>95976426
Are you trying to claim you’re not a faggot!?

>>95976421
Why should you be on it. You've insulted the person organizing it multiple times and it's just a gift he wanted to do for fun. He doesn't have to put anyone on the fridge, I don't know why you feel so entitled to it when you're lashing out at the person making it all the time

>95976421
God shut the fuck up decalfaggot

>>95976408
>>95976422
I figured, I’m just using this to help me decide on which marine chapter I want to play. How’s the dark angels combat patrol? Looked kind of ass when I saw it but I also just don’t know

>>95976434
Not at all, I'm claiming it's unlikely that every single modelposter is politically opposed to you

Aw sweet, they added an illustration to the cabal detachment

>>95976442
Blood angels*
Too many angels in the space marines

>>95976447
>cabal
Something something bungie or whatever I don't remember his script

Where is it!?!
Where are my fucking drop pod rules, you degenerate homos?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>95976440
Or what pussy?

>>95976452
wut

>>95976455
Destiny or something I dunno bro I ain't about that

>>95976442
dangel patrol is decent as far as marine patrols go, they're all kinda shitty sadly
I'll always lobby for you to make up your own successor, it's a lot more fulfilling imo, and lets you have flexibility with models in instances like the bangel refresh looking bad

>>95976453
I do not give a shit about the rules
I NEED to see the sprue and instructions

>>95976452

>>95976454
Nta but you're going to make every single person here hate you even more than they already do. Like I don't think you realize how long it takes people to forget things here

>>95976460
Oh they refreshed the blood angels? Last time I went to a games store they just had Mephiston who I thought looked cool. They didn’t get rid of the cool angel guys did they?

>>95976464
Wat

>>95976463
They are on plebbit for days now, just use google.

>>95976467
They got refreshed last year, a lot of people were really unhappy with how they turned out

>>95976475
Only mephiston and Dante were good
The rest of the refresh is straight up dog shit

>>95976478
dante, lemartes, the sanguinary priest, and captain are good
sanguinor and astaroth and guard are irredeemably bad

>>95976475
I see, maybe it would be best to avoid blood angels then lmao. No getting vamp girls for me

>>95976481
I'll allow the priest, but the captain is as fucking bland as the SG and the other characters are bad

>>95976478
The sang guard look pretty good if you swap some of their old bits, but that is so pricy these days that it's probably better to just get some prints or 3rd party upgrades. There's an anon here with some pretty cool ones that he converted up

>>95976465
Stfu you retarded faggot lol

>>95976492
And that's the sign of a kit being incredibly shit.
If you need conversion and bits for it to be acceptably looking, then they fucked up hard

>>95976495
Sure but if the parts that bother you are easily swappable then you've got lots of options. Making things look the way you want via kitbashing is one of the most rewarding parts of the hobby and you might as well take advantage of it to make your army look exactly the way you want if you can

>>95976473
No they aren't

>>95976501
If the base is shit, blinging it out only gets you sparkly shit.

>>95976463
>I NEED to see the sprue and instructions
This shows off the sprues
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge_JfruJK8Q&pp=ygUQTWVkaW9jcmUgaG9iYmllcw%3D%3D

>>95976512
Completely retarded take

>>95976512
They're marines, every part of them is easily swappable aside from the legs and torsos, both of which are so inoffensive that I don't see the issue if you want to make your own sg fit your tastes

>>95976453
I NEED A DROP POD ASSAULT DETACHMENT

>>95976222
I defended hin yesterday when you seethed about mustasche man bad

>>95976475
Really needed some of the gold filigree from HH, lean into the renaissance aesthetic

>>95976533
>everyone I don't like is the same person
A tale as old as time itself

>>95976539
Im not the one running around calling people samefag like your buttbuddy

>>95976537
I have never seen a marine so decorated but also be so bland.

If I want to get close and stab my enemy which army should I play?

>>95976532
>I NEED A DROP POD ASSAULT DETACHMENT
IT DOES NOT EXIST AND NEVER WILL, YOU ABSOLUTE RETARD

>>95976550
Heresy do be like that sometimes. This guy's pretty flashy for heresy stuff too

I may be making a mistake.

Hesitating on the button. They're running out of the item for cheap.... wtf am I doing?

>>95976551
Have you considered 2000pts of dreadnoughts

>>95976559

>>95976559
What are you buying 13 of for 90 bones each

>>95975684
Ain't nothing wrong with that. That's my favorite helmet from the zerk squad too.

Rolled 100 (1d100)

>>95976562
>>95976559

>>95976559
What did you buy?

>>95976559
Whatever this is its definitely a mistake. Take a nap and think about it

I really don't get what's the purpose of the new company heroes as a command squad with their fixed schizo loadout so I'm planning to make my own command squad using the 30k command squad sprue to make bladeguard and a bladeguard ancient. What's the best way to use it? 3xBladeguard + captain + ancient in an impulsor? I'd use a rhino if they could ride it and land raiders seem like way too many points in a single place.

>>95976561
I wish they made boxnaughts better. A points cut and turning them into talons would fix them IMO.

>>95976571
fuck

>>95976550
What's bland about him, though? Fancy armour, rare weapons, cool mask.

>>95976580
dunno, ask /hhg/

>>95976586
Also got the tyranid codex with it.

>>95976554
WHY NOT YOU STUPID BASTARD

But seriously even if we only look at GW's boundless greed a drop pod detachment would mean tons of sales of the conveniently 2x1 boxes of new drop pods.

>>95976590
I'm asking how to use a 40k unit in 40k, my dude.

>>95976572
this
>>95976586
and I rolled 100
>>95976571
>fml

>>95976597
...why did you pay more than 1k for a starter set that costs a tenth of that price?

>>95976561
Not him but YES, that is why i started bloodangels back in the days where you could have nearly every slot filled with dreads.

>>95976602
I got 12 of them at 87 a pop.

>>95976588
Looks like decalslopper made it

>>95976527
That's literal common human knowledge
No matter how much you polish a turd, it's still a turd

>>95976596
dunno, ask /hhg/

>>95976605
but why? are you gonna sell them?

>>95976584
I want them to put them in units of 3 and leave them as is

>>95976391
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Angels#Chapter_Appearance
this is as accurate for dark angels as it currently gets
every chapter does markings differently, some don't do them at all (space wolves and black templars have their own thing going on)
dark angels have an incredibly restrictive system except for ravenwing and deathwing have some basic rules to follow and then allow every individual model to have personal heraldry
basically, Dark Angels are space Bretonnia

>>95976616
>and leave them as is
That'd still make them overpriced as fuck. A boxnaught is the exact same points as a ballistus right now despite being worse in every possible way.

>>95976603
Are you me

>>95976561
I watched source code the other day and read a short story about blood angels and a dread that succumbed to the black rage and I realized being a dread is living hell. Get spun up, fight, get spun down.

>>95976614
I don't think hhg will have a lot of insight on how to use bladeguard in 40k.

>>95976615
I'm the anon that said I'd convert all of them.
>i've done conversions like this before with absolute confidence

bunch of sharp objects for hands, hormagaunts ezpz
bunch of spikey fists, spinefist gaunts ezpz
PVC tube and wires with some cover spackle, easy snake body for tervagon/mawloc psychophage conversions

I just like cutting things and gluing them... I will hate getting rid of the stupid marine arm in each psychophage tongue though. I will be having psychophage faces on every single monster though.

>>95976621
So make them cheaper and put them in 3s, I just think it'd be cool to run 9 boxnauts

>>95976635
Aye that would give them a pretty unique niche compared to the redeptor chassis. We'd just need an extra sprue with all the missing weapons.

>>95976623
Don't know, are you the weirdo on the other side of the strange window in the bathroom?

>>95976571
My god why did it have to be a absolute critical roll. I mean how. What the fuck.

When I first mentioned it on here I got a fucking quad in my post number a week ago. Fate or whatever. I'm getting a Terminator army based around Deathwatch. A Marine army I Intend to replace the arms and guns with 3d printed intercessor guns for a 1k list.

The tyranids though, it's gonna be a 4k army.

what is wrong with using decals?

>>95976584
>3 are unfinished
>the one that could maybe pass as battle ready still looks half assed
these are the boxnaught lovers you're arguing with in this place

>>95976659
The three unfinished ones are the ones I unearthed from the depths of my closet while the black reach one I got recently. I still have another unbuilt plastic vendred I found in a box full of sprues I didn't even know I had. The blue one I changed the sarcophagus from the head to the classic one because I didn't like how it looked, that's why it's grey when the rest of the model is blue. I used to paint ultramarines and some dark angels after dark vengeance.

>>95976657
nothing, but usually one is using decals to use them correctly
decalfag just sloppas every fucking decal he can onto every model he does

so many fucking weird schizos in this general, they for sure removed IP count to smokescreen this dying website

>>95976526
>No details on the doors
>Rubble attached to the pod
>This means it's impossible to build closed
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
At least the rest of the aspects of the kit seem good enough.
Nice that it's not a billion little parts with weird cuts

>>95976693
MODS ADD THE FUCKING THREAD ID AND WATCH THIS SHIT STOP

>>95976693
>>95976697
You do know you can change IPs, right?

>>95976693
This general is literally a containment thread to prevent the absolute worst garbage from spilling over, not sure what you're expecting.

>>95976694
You can have closeable doors or you can have it be nice to build

>>95976467
>They didn’t get rid of the cool angel guys did they?
They pretty much did, given how they changed everything about the unit except their name. They went from 5 dudes to 3, replaced their angel wings with flaps, look like Sigmarines instead of Space Marines, and don't even look like how the codex portrays them. They're the 2nd worst sprue imo

I'm getting back into the game since i haven't played since i was like 16 when i didn't know shit about the army colors. I have a bunch of Space Marine units, plus land raider and stuff but I am thinking of going for the T'au Empire. Should I just buy two of the Combat box thingies?

>>95976706
I don't think it would have been that hard to have the doors be either closed or open, and it people wanted to make them articulated that was their problem
I'm sure with the modern sculpting and extrusion techniques they can do that, it's been 18 years

>>95976701
Decalfaggot has such a low IQ I doubt he can do that.
And if he does it's another reason to have him banned. So I don't see a problem there.

>>95976716
>obvious b8

>>95976728
Its not I'm actually asking

>>95976716
Buy a box of fire warriors and see if you like building and painting those before you spend 400 dollars on something you might not like at all

>>95976725
You think the guy who came up practically yesterday is the only problem of these threads?

>>95976526
>Forced into a single pose
>Hollow bottom
>Less Articulation for more money
>Still holds 10 dudes in an edition with attached leaders
Into the fucking trash it goes

>>95976736
>more money
it's 40% cheaper than buying 2 of the old one but nice try

>>95976736
>Less Articulation for more money
Technically each pod is cheaper, they just sell them in boxes of two now. Cheeky bastards.
>Still holds 10 dudes in an edition with attached leaders
We don't know that though. They might bump it to 11 like they did with most other vehicles. Though this wouldn't be an issue if we weren't stuck with power levels instead of points.

>>95976734
I'd rather start fixing problems than letting them fester even longer.
And perma-banning this retard is a step

>>95976736
>Still holds 10 dudes in an edition with attached leaders
We don't know the rules for them yet, because GW ghey

>>95976725
When will you absolute fucking subhuman retards get it through your heads that IP banning does nothing when smartphones exist and for the same reason IDs wouldn't change anything either? The only way to drive shitposters away is to ignore them. But despite your constant bitching faggots like you enjoy the drama so you give them all the attention they need an constantly bring them up for no reason. Like, seriously, jump off a fucking cliff you absolutely braindead imbecile.

>>95976745
leakers had all week to show off the datasheet.

>>95976753
>leakers had all week to show off the datasheet
And yet, they did not.

>>95976744
if IPs or IDs or bans solved anything we would have gotten rid of the thread's resident schizo years ago

>>95976751
He only wants IDs so he can schizopost even harder each and every time multiple anons disagree with him
it's like he gets off from being the "thread detective" or something
pure insanity

>>95976753
The datasheet is a free pdf so no one will have it until release.

>>95976751
>>95976756
This is implying mods do anything.
And ignoring retarded shit stirrers only allows them to shit up the thread and keep thread after thread after thread, gobbling up any attention a newfag or person that hasn't interacted with him before gives out.
I'd rather call his every post a retarded faggot rambling and report them, like I already do, but what fucking good does it do us when mods don't do shit?

>>95976765
Kill yourself, truly.

>>95976779
Bingo, I guess.

>>95976389
What the fuck are you talking about?
Ciaphas Cain, Gaunts Ghost stories, Eisenhorn novels, etc all have regular human cultists as the vast majority of Chaos worshippers.
You have a whole Amazon short episode about an army of deranged cultists getting fucked by 4 space marines.
Some Dark Apostle riling up a crowd to charge a Custodes with rusty weapon just get murdered in droves in the name of Khorne is not a headcanon moment.
The chaos cultists, the Lost and the Damned, that represents the vast majority of Chaos armies are fighting superhuman enemies with a prayer in their lips as much as the Imperial Guardsmen charge a chaos therminator with prayers on theirs.
For both the prayers are unanswered most of the time. I dont get what's "headcanon" about that. You think every cultist that prays to Khorne becomes a roided out killing machine?

>>95976715
Nearly all of the GW flying poses convey no weight, these guys look like they are operating under LBP physics.

>>95976731
>>95976716
Different anon but on the subject of tau, in late 7th edition tau had some detachment that let them field 6 squadrons of drones with bonuses to stats and just about every USR, including some funny ones for drones like furious charge, and I bought ~30 of them off ebay. I don't own any other tau. Are drones good still? Do they still have the option for a tank commander and tank squadrons?

>tank commander + tank squadron was a valid detachment in 7th
>6 squads of drones was also a valid detachment
>valid 1000 point list with no troops

>Angron - Angry
>Kharn - Carnage

>>95976819
wrong
kharn is arabic for betrayer
so his name is betrayer the betrayer

>>95976725
carnac your brain needs to get over it already

>>95976584
after building and painting redemptors and leviathans, honestly its kinda hard to go back. the better proportions, the increased posability, they are just better dreadnoughts. boxnoughts are obsolete both in terms of role and kit quality.

that said contemptors can fuck off. egg lookin mother fuckers

>>95976831
nta but that's even better

okay can someone help me out here? i have an opponent who's getting into space wolves and he was trying to explain his units to me and the names are all a blur. longfang, young blood, wolf nut, grey tail. idk they all blended together, it sounded like sigmar shit with the god damn stormcast names.

what is each units corresponding regular space marine counterpart so i can figure out what they do?

>>95976853
long fang -> devastator squad
idk the rest

>>95976835
Stop schizoing
I'm not your boogieman

>>95976859
Don't reply to the guy larping as edgecoc

>>95976819
>Sanguinius - sanguine

>>95976853
Blood Claws -> bloody claws because they like to charge you and go in mellee = assault marines
Grey Hunters -> they hunt down their prey, more subdued than blood claws before jumping in the hunt = tacticals that shoot before charging
Long Fangs -> Old Space Wolves, because their fangs got super long. Old enough to be trusted with bigger and deadlier ranged weapons (why other chapters dont do this, I dont know, but that's not here or there) = devastators
Wolf Guards -> they... guard. Elites who guards the leaders. In power armor or terminator armor.

Its always been like this. Its retarded, but its no less retarded than some naming conventions, but that goes along with most GW products (looking at you Tyranids)

>>95976853
If you can't figure it out and learn them on your own, you shouldn't be playing this game.

>>95976843
>the better proportions
Lol. Lmao.
>boxnoughts are obsolete both in terms of role and kit quality.
But that's not true. The difference in size makes them completely different units. That's like saying sentinels can't exist because Knights are a thing. We had both boxnaughts and leviathans/deredeos for a decade and they coexisted just fine.

>>95976819
>>95976875
ENTER

>>95976878
>why other chapters dont do this
Because tacticals have access to any weapon so before joining a tactical they had to go through assaults and devastators to master each weapon before that.

>>95976886
boxnaughts are like zits that pop to a single lascannon shot. they dont have a role in modern warhammer

>>95976503
Brainlet.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/1ll2vkv/new_drop_pod_sprues_spread_over_3_and_hollow/

>>95976905
At the cost of a ballistus? Of course not. As a cheap weapons platform that needs anti tank weapons to kill and that slaps in melee? That's good. The problem is they are overcosted and have a useless special rule.

>>95976916
>cheap

when you are having to make your dreadnoughts sub 100pts just to avoid being overcosted something has done horribly wrong. dreadnoughts are centuries or even millenia old veteran warriors encased in the most precious of chapter relics, creations of ancient barely understood technology venerated and revered as sacred artifacts.

they should not cost as much as some ragtag scouts or a few platoons of guardsmen

>>95976927
>something has done horribly wrong
Well yeah, ballistus. Redemptors are 240 points, not 140.

>>95976878
>why other chapters dont do this, I dont know
Sternguard veterans are analogous. I suppose the difference is that the SW great companies operate more or less independent from each other, meaning they don't have any dedicated reserve/fire support companies which devastator squads are usually raised from. Under the codex there's a learning curve for greenhorns to pick up all the necessary skills to assume any role once promoted to a battle company, but in the case of the SW there's more of a sink-or-swim mentality with respect to their blood claws.

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Out of 5 please

It would be really funny if all the firstborn get removed from the vanilla marines coded and then Ultramarines get spinoff as a supplement army and their exclusive units are Primaris Tactical Squads, Devastator Squads, and Sniper Scouts in addition to their current stuff.

>>95976948
I'm biased but I think all the old Eldar models hold up quite well. So something like a 3/4/4/4.5 for me.

>>95976949
Why

>>95976949
I think they should make a double primaris
they already tricked every 40k player into rebuying all of their space marines
they can pull it off a second time

>>95976927
The redemptor chassis has been a disaster for dreadnoughts
God bless HH for having good dreads, but we REALLY need an updated and upscaled actual boxnought, no reimagining required, just make it a bit bigger and give it a nice build like the old kit.

>>95976959
Because every marine army is going to be a supplement army now. But Ultramarines are just Codex Marines plus plus.

>>95976959
Every primaris squad should be killed in order to return to tactical, devastator, scout, assault and veteran squads with actual options.

>>95976953
Old eldar were definitely the best sculpted models at the time

>>95976963
It's only been eight years. You have to boil the frogs slowly. You wait ten years and then you introduce one new unit in a slightly different scale and then get the fan base clamoring for all of their other units to be updated to that scale as well.

>>95976949
Tactical Marines will be axed with the MkVII release for Horus Heresy, mark my words.

Can that wrecka krew kill team box be used to make a tankbusta unit?

>>95976887
In his case it makes perfect sense since it's basically a cryptid name, like Big Foot or Mothman. People simply started referring to him by his most recognizable attribute. Contrast to something like Omegon being named Omegon before he knew he was numerically the last of his brothers and the last primarch to be discovered. Or Corvus Corax who was named Corvus as a child and was only given the cognomen Corax (meaning Savior, not raven, in the local tongue) many decades later after his successful uprising against the despots of his homeworld. And Angron was named Angron before he had any anger issues.

Ferrus Manus is actually the least stupid of these literally descriptive names.

>>95976977
Tail end of HH 4.0 or 5.0 release is my bet

>>95976977
Oh they are definitely going away eventually. I don't know about Horus Heresy getting Mark 7 armor though. They have lots of old patterns they can still exploit for that. Maybe a character in one suit of it, but I don't think they'll go so far as to offer a replacement range for it. There. You can see some Mark 7 armor pieces showing up in some of the Primaris veterans sculpts now though. Which is probably the better way to go about it.

>>95976974
Truescale fags started the true decline of this hobby. I tried to warn everyone, even before Primaris was a thing. No one listened. You all got what you fucking deserve.

>>95976974
The saturnine armour direly need to come with a diagram in the rule book explaining how it's so much taller.

>>95976941
>>95976892
Yup that's what I understand. I just find it weird because long range devastation with giant guns is basically the conductor of an opera in a battlefield. So they need some strong strategic acumen to know what to shoot and when.
Also trusting the new guy with a gun that can wipe out your squad due to bad aim or misfire is funny.
Same goes with scouts, I guess. Scouting is a vital, difficult, and strategically intense role. In most armies scouts are either veterans or locals with knowledge of the land. Trusting neophytes with this role is a bit weird.

I know, I know, power armor mini games etc, but we have an example of a neophyte scout fucking up majorly in a Crimson Fists story. A scout that was too glory hungry thought he can 1 shot an ork warboss with his sniper. He didnt. And he and his squad got killed and their precious intel got lost.
For some reason, in their contrarian retardation, the Space Wolves got it right when it comes to trusting deadly heavy weapons and intel gathering to their veterans.

>>95976985
The next step is heroic proportions at true scale. We will come full circle, just watch and see. The Cawl cannot be denied.

>>95976974
>why is this armor which is canonically fucking gigantic so big compared to other shit

>>95976978
I love xeno art like this. Both sides are allowed to be strong. The orks have taken out a fucking titan, but on the ground the scorpions are executing the boyz with grace. Then in the centre a giant nob in mega armour is parried by a scorpion exarch, despite the size difference both are of equal strength

>>95976985
who would've thought that a random faggot shitposting on a mongolian basket weaving forum could not change anything

>>95976978
Yes, how else would you make a tankbuster unit?

It's always been funny how marinefags are deeply insecure about height. Even before primaris were a thing many people had difficulties coming to terms with the fact that marines were only slightly taller than an average person.

>>95976965
>upscaled
There's no need for that. It's fine as is. Not everything needs to be bigger jur because.

>>95976969
Well yes but I doubt that'll happen.
>>95976974
Why do you retards refuse to understand the concept of an exosuit? Centurions exist already and make the marine way bigger by extending the limbs. Saturnines do the same.

>>95976984
>Which is probably the better way to go about it.
I can think of better ways.

Dumb idea for an army;
Marine Retirement Village
>The caretakers
Techmarine x3
>The residents
Ballistus Dreadnought x3
Brutalis Dreadnought x3
Redemptor Dreadnought x3
>The orderlies
Invictor Tactical Warsuit x2

>>95977010
the pictures I've seen are a mix of melee and ranged, so wasnt sure you could kit them all (or 5 at least) with rokkit launchers

>>95977033
Yeah you can, the wreckas box comes with the options to make either tankbustas or breakas

i WILL finish my army this week

>Grrr! I'm ANGRY! Angry about ROGAL DORN!

>>95977062
good to know, thanks anon

Long Fangs don't even exist anymore. There are Desolation Squads, Eradicator Squads, Hellblaster Squads, etc. Cawl did what Guilliman never could by forcing the Space Wolves to adopt Codex-compliant unit formations. Ave Omnissiah.

>>95977129
Why would long fangs need their own datasheet when they work the exact same as devastators?

I need to get around to painting my Knight but it seems so fucking daunting.

>>95977102
Cool Vashtorr Daemon Prince

>>95977129
They will be back in 11th. The new models didn't get in time for this revamp.

If something with precision decides to allocate attacks to a character within a unit and it over kills it, do the remaining wounds go into the bodyguard unit?

>>95976996
and you seem to not understand singel fucking thing about SM in general. The pile of crap reading in that is amazing and insulting.

They are not the "NEW" guy they are not human they are NOTHING like we have in real life, THEY ARE NOT US MARINES OR ROYAL MARINES.

No Space marine that has servo armor is a "NEW" guy you absolut spastic.

Each and ever one of them is a VETERAN!! A finished weapon that has killed and seen more then any average human soliders in 3 life. times.


Scout before getting deployed in any chapter are always under advise of veteran sergeant. Before even getting elevated in to being a neophyte as human the teenager or child they have achieved by far more then any veteran of the imperial guard could dream off.

Like you miss the whole point of what makes space marines space marines and stand out. A generic marine has multiple liufe times of human experience in warfare in combination of psykoindoctrination and other bullshit. Imperial guard or Sorites veterans would not even come close to generic space marines experience. Dont get even started on 1st company veterans.


Nothing about a space marine in servo armor makes him the new guy and scouts are as good if not better then any generic human veterans.

>>95977129
>Cawl did what Guilliman never could by forcing the Space Wolves to adopt Codex-compliant unit formations.
What a wonderful time to be alive...

>>95977167
Just slow roll the precision attacks

new one

>>95977190
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>>95977182
I'm just thinking how brutal a solitaire would be as there's a good chance it's going to over kill just about any character on its go turn and then wipe out a considerable amount of the bodyguard too

How are wraith blades compared to terminators? They just seem way worse ESPECIALLY with the swords

>>95977166
Honestly if 11th updates tacticals and devastators faithfully like they did with terminators, unfuck boxnaughts and lift transport restrictions so rhinos can shine I wouldn't ask for anything else.

>>95977174
Lmao marinefag getting triggered is always a joy to read. Dont huff and puff too much while you defend your marines, you might sweat your fat ass off in this heat. Its a joy to see "generic space marines with multiple lifetimes of experience" getting choppa fucked by a barely 10 years old ork. Same ork getting killed by some commissar somewhere in another battlefield. Same commissar getting dissinegrated by a half retarded millions of years old alien robot grunt.
Space marines progression system is retarded. And I'm a Black Templars guy and even I can tell its all retarded fun.

>>95977020
invictors are good with phobos
get some phobos with haywire mines so you can shred enemy vehicles and clean up infantry with the dread

Wolf boy is gonna be the next primarch to return

>>95976559
Whatever this one, it could be printed in better quality for $100

>>95977449
Yuh but it'll be a very boring book, Lion's return is gonna be the peak of Indomitus Era. Maybe when Dorn returns that's when the fun REALLY begins.

>>95977133
Because space wolves aren't allowed to bring devastators