Thread 95977190

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>>Previous thread:
>>95972789

>Thread Question:
What army made you interested in the hobby?

>>95977190 (OP)
>TQ

Orks. Bought the old 16 boyz box in 2002, legit had no idea what 40k was or any of the lore behind it, I just liked the look of orks

>>95977198
Are there many official images of what the necrontyr looked like before they were turned into necrons?

>>95977190 (OP)
How do wraith blades compare to terminators especially the chapter specific ones? They seem very weak compared especially with the sword with no invuln

How does one deal with 6 Canoptek Wraiths accompanied by a Technomancer? It's just too tanky with 4++ and 5+ FNPs and Reanimation Protocols to deal with.

I like Fabius Bile, and I wish he had gotten a retinue of Enhanced Marines as part of the EC release.

>>95977190 (OP)
Hi everyone! I'm planning to 3d print a couple of 1000 points space marines armies, entirely made of firstborns (for 2 reasons: I'm a grog and I like the simplicity and flexibilty of the tactical squad), starting with ultramarines (I like the roman aesthetic).
I came up with some help with this list, what do you think could be made better? Consider that the project is mostly made as a modeling and painting project, about games I just want the list to be fun to play with

Firstborn Ultramarines – 1000 Points
Detachment: Gladius Task Force
Chapter: Ultramarines

HQ
Captain in Terminator Armour — 100 pts
Storm Bolter + Power Fist

Troops
Tactical Squad (10) — 180 pts
Sergeant: Combi-Plasma + Power Sword
1x Plasma Gun
1x Lascannon
7x Boltgun Marines

Tactical Squad (10) — 180 pts
Sergeant: Combi-Melta + Power Fist
1 x Meltagun
1x Missile Launcher
7x Boltgun Marines

Elites
Terminator Squad (5) — 200 pts
4x Storm Bolters + Power Fists
1x Assault Cannon

Venerable Dreadnought — 150 pts
Twin Lascannon + Missile Launcher
(Or Assault Cannon + Dreadnought CCW? Idk)

Heavy Support
Devastator Squad (5) — 140 pts
4x Heavy Weapons: 2x Lascannons + 2x Missile Launchers
Sergeant: Signum

Fast Attack
Land Speeder Typhoon — 140 pts
Typhoon Missile Launcher + Heavy Bolter

Total: ~990 pts

GW. It's time for the faggotry to stop. Release the new rules for drop pods, and begin the path to redemption.

>>95977211
He isn't EC. He's an independent.

>>95977190 (OP)
>TQ
NEGRONS!!

>>95977190 (OP)
>What army made you interested in the hobby?
Space Marines circa 2009 or 2010. Sadly so little left of what drew me in is left these days. At least drop pods are still a thing.

>>95977190 (OP)
>TQ
It was Tau. I got into 40k through Dawn of War, but didn't even think about the tabletop until Dark Crusade.

>>95977213
What do you think they need to be good this time? I have barely used them since 7th with that formation that needed gravcannon devastators.

>>95977190 (OP)
>>Thread Question:
>What army made you interested in the hobby?
3rd Edition black templars because they look cool in black but then I read about the Ultramarines and the courage and honor as a moto got me in love with them.

And Ultramarines since then it is.

>>95977190 (OP)
>TQ
5th edition Dark Eldar

>>95977207
Not that I am aware of.
Maybe the closest one that comes to it is that one weird image of a necron statue that has like 3 faces all facing different directions. It might've been from their 10th edition codex or something.

Someone here probably knows what I'm talking about.

>>95977190 (OP)
Space Wolves because I was playing Skyrim and find the vikings aesthetic cool.
But then I found out they're more wolves than vikings after 2000 pts of an army painted up so I moved to Custodes when they got released because I like the tiny ornate details on the armors.
Now I'm on Black Templars because Sword Brethren and Emperor's Champion models hits hard.

>>95977015
I'm not saying to make it an oversized piece of shit like the primaris dreads
Give it something between a .25/.5 size increase so it's more in line with marine sizes. Same thing applies for rhinos and it's variants. All old shit should get resized, faithfully resigned for modern manufacturing and shipped as is.

>>95977258
Again, they don't need to be bigger. Even the primaris vehicles aren't bigger than their classic counterparts.

>>95977190 (OP)
>TQ
Death Guard.
The horror stories of these guys being plague-ridden hulks of rusted metal and undying spite really cemented these as the 40k faction I'd start off with. Even just browsing their models for the first time, I loved how they looked with their evil-looking tubes and vents sprouting from their bodies. I've got way more Ork than DG models at the moment, but considering how they got me into kitbashing and painting hordes of models (painting 30 combat patrol poxwalkers is a hell of an intro to the hobby), I couldn't have asked for a better army to start off with.

>>95977258
Dreadnoughts do not need to be upscaled ffs

>play against a sweaty tourney player in a casual game
>become a sweatlord myself

I've embarrassed myself yet again

>>95977207
The only truly official necrontyr art as far as I know is this codex art of the silent king

>>95977212
Char1: 1x Chaplain with Jump Pack (75 pts): Crozius Arcanum, Bolt Pistol

10x Tactical Squad (140 pts)
• 9x Tactical Marine
7 with Tactical Squad, Bolt Pistol, Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon
1 with Tactical Squad, Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Plasma Cannon
1 with Tactical Squad, Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Plasma Gun
• 1x Tactical Marine Sergeant: Close Combat Weapon, Power Fist, Boltgun
10x Tactical Squad (140 pts)
• 9x Tactical Marine
7 with Tactical Squad, Bolt Pistol, Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon
1 with Tactical Squad, Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Plasma Cannon
1 with Tactical Squad, Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Plasma Gun
• 1x Tactical Marine Sergeant: Close Combat Weapon, Power Fist, Boltgun

10x Devastator Squad (200 pts)
• 9x Devastator Marine
5 with Devastator Squad, Bolt Pistol, Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon
4 with Devastator Squad, Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Lascannon
• 1x Devastator Sergeant: Close Combat Weapon, Power Fist, Boltgun
10x Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (190 pts)
• 9x Vanguard Veterans with Jump Packs
1 with Vanguard Veterans with Jump Packs, Vanguard Veteran Weapon, Plasma Pistol
1 with Vanguard Veterans with Jump Packs, Vanguard Veteran Weapon, Plasma Pistol
1 with Vanguard Veterans with Jump Packs, Vanguard Veteran Weapon, Plasma Pistol
1 with Vanguard Veterans with Jump Packs, Vanguard Veteran Weapon, Plasma Pistol
1 with Vanguard Veterans with Jump Packs, Vanguard Veteran Weapon, Plasma Pistol
4 with Vanguard Veterans with Jump Packs, Vanguard Veteran Weapon, Plasma Pistol
• 1x Vanguard Veteran Sergeant with Jump Pack: Vanguard Veteran Weapon, Bolt Pistol
1x Relic Razorback [Legends] (105 pts): Armoured Tracks, Hunter Killer Missile, Storm Bolter, Twin Lascannon
1x Rhino (75 pts): Armoured Tracks, Hunter Killer Missile, Storm Bolter
1x Rhino (75 pts): Armoured Tracks, Hunter Killer Missile, Storm Bolter

>>95977226
I'm so sick of looking at Primaris stupidly badly angled gorgets and their gay fucking Mk X helmets.

We need new Mk 7 fucking ASAP.

Will they ever learn

>>95977289
I like the new design.
Especially the uniformity across the board. They are a military organisation after all.

>>95977291
1 and 3 look good

>>95977263
>>95977274
They are a bit out of scale, only a tiny bit bigger and they would be perfect.
I'm mostly asking just for a refresh of the classic vehicles.
The drop pods seem to have been kinda faithfully remade (ignoring the choices about the doors and weapons, those are bad)

>>95977291
It's incredible how the boxnought is half the size yet orders of magnitude better looking.
Truly astonishing.

>>95977226
Give me one reason drop pods have been stripped of weapons and how do they scale compare with old ones?

>>95977283
Up against the wall.

Post armies

>>95977330
what was the thought process that led you to go with green flock and glorp green bases?

>>95977301
>Especially the uniformity across the board.
That is literally the worst part.
>They are a military organisation after all.
Which doesn't mean shit here, you dumb lorelet. Every suit of power armour is bespoke hand-crafted by a Techmarine, every Techmarine has their own quirks and designs, and old suits from thousands of years ago are refurbished or cannibalized for parts and recombined with other bespoke parts over the course of millennia, so that every marine ends up with something distinct as battle damage and repairs accrues.

You would know this if you ever opened a fucking Codex but you are a tourist.

>>95977211
Is it still a thing that he rapidly dies from the EC tainted geneseed? I don't get how he's made a perfect copy of a Primarch but can't figure this out or make a clone who doesn't have the blight, assuming it hasn't been retconned by now.

>>95977332
It's only natural that Khorne would want to defile an idyllic, green, paradise world.

>>95977301
>Especially the uniformity across the board.
Marines were never supposed to be uniform.
They are super specialist monastic warriors with a ton of elder worship and devotion, either religious or secular to the emperor, armour is personal and also a relic of the past to be cherished and made personal while respecting the former owners. Bland mkx armour is shit and doesn't understand marines.

>>95977336
NTA but only master crafted armour and that kind of stuff is made by techmarines, most of the regular stuff is made by the mechanicus if it needs replacing. Does not take away from your point still, marines will do almost anything to maintain and restore their suits of armour

>>95977330
Hey buddy the AoS genereal is two blocks down

>>95977190 (OP)
>TQ
This image. This is what got me into 40k.
My main army is Sisters, and recently started on Tau and Votaan as well.

>>95977330
>Post armies
Got a couple of tanks I need to add to this

>>95977336
writing shit like that and calling some one lore let, fuck of with your retarded head conon your mental retardation may in your own head make sense and justifie your stupidity but not in 40k or any where else.

Each armor starts as mass product on a forge world, after millennia of of years of service and recovery such modifications can happen depending on techprist and the marine him self caring for his armor.

anon just kys you are not smart your not knolagable in lore and your are a disgrace to life it self.

tourist this, red..ditor that you can as hard as you want to pretend to big a old fag you fail even at that.

Do you guys believe there's detail creep?

>>95977364
ESL-kun, at least run your verbal diarrhea through an AI before posting, this is pathetic.

>>95977352
>NTA but only master crafted armour and that kind of stuff is made by techmarines, most of the regular stuff is made by the mechanicus
No? Everything a Chapter uses is made in-house. Go read codexes brother.

>>95977330
Frolicking ahh bases

>>95977367
There's detail imbalance
Some shit is barren of detail while other stuff is too busy and over crowded

>>95977317
>Weapons
A single storm bolter is fairly irrelevant and without it the construction of the kit is simpler. It's mostly sprue design.
>Scale
Exact same but the new doors are a bit shorter.

>>95977371
You are sorely mistaken.
Chapters have in-house maintenance and production of some of their armaments, but having everything made by them is more a thing of specific chapters, requiring mechanicus alignment.
Most get replacements when they need them and maintain their own stuff.

>>95977368
just kys you can try as hard as you want you reek of looser trying to control the narrative.

Cant buy upvotes here looser. Try harder.

Monday is the deadline for both vehicle submissions and the vote for next months theme. You can submit your vehicles to this post if you haven't done so already.
Here is the link to the vote https://strawpoll.com/bVg8Bm591yY
Elite squad is in the lead.
Next month I'll set more concrete dates and deadlines. I don't wanna be controlling but I feel it would prevent confusion and the info could be attached in the op to make it easy to see.

Is armour of contempt the most fondly used marine strategem?

>>95977330
Black Templars, 1k points worth. I want to have a 2k pts of footslogging mellee crusading force.

>>95977291
the ballistus gun arms should have been elbow mounted like the redemptors, but otherwise they look fantastic.

idk who that small guy on the bottom right is tho, is that one of their kids?

did you play a game over the weekend anon?

>>95977388
Weak bait.

>>95977387
>Footfaging
>has bikes

not even trying xDDDDD

>>95977367
Only you can decide but the answer is yes

>>95977383
Commonly*

>>95977387
excellent stuff!

>>95977379
Please learn to write.
And refrain from using reddit spacing.
You are not even that wrong. The mechanicus produces the armour, but modifications and improvements to master crafted (or fabrication) only happen inside a chapter.

>>95977395
god those old ones looked terrible

>>95977393
I just really really like the chaplain on bike model and dont want him to be alone.

>>95977378
You are just posting blatantly wrong shit. Provide codex screenshots.

>>95977301
>Especially the uniformity across the board.
But there's no uniformity though? Classic marines were 4 squads of dudes with different types of weapons drawn from a common wepaons list. Primaris have two dozen squads of different sizes, armours and exclusive weapons. That's the opposite of uniformity.

>>95977398
do it looser, post vid of doing a backflip.

>>95977340
The explanation behind the blight is that his belief in the blight following him to his grave is so strong that he's turned it into a demon. There's no actual reason for it to follow him, he won a long time ago, but the obsession, it consumes him, so it comes back every time, as he expects it to.

>>95977330
>>95977273
The aforementioned Orks

>>95977405
understandable
also bikes kind of are rarely used.

How come?
They are highly mobile, have a lot of shoots, have higher resistance and more hit points. Why the hate?

>>95977367
Take a look at the death guard range and tell me.

>>95977406
Can you?
I don't have a codex source, I'm going off of a novel. I know it's not a good source, but it's general knowledge that it's the mechanicus who produces it.
If you are so sure of it provide it.

>>95977410
Holy fuck, kill yourself you fucking retard.
Although with your lacking intelligence shown by your inability to write I'm sure you will fuck up somehow.
I wasn't even fully disagreeing with you, stupid faggot.

>>95977417
nice!

>>95977427
>I'm going off of a novel
There it is. Black Library fags posting their fanfic every fucking time.

>>95977439
Post the fucking source of your information then.
I literally want to know.

>>95977407
they wear the same armor. In the old kits you had 5 chests or so with Eagle the other one had a cross and so on. Different shoulder pads, the lower part had some with knee pads other without some had studs and so on. You had helmets with grills then beakies. In the new kits the armor stays the same uniform. Helmets stay the same. Intercessors style, gravis style, the spandex looking shit like.

The new primaris kits look by far more uniform then the old kits. You dont have that with stern guard and blade guard that is good but in the basic troop choices it is prevalent.

Speaking of Custodes...I thought they had all black armour. What gives?

>>95977383
All detachments have it, so yes

>>95977450
huh wat u mean?

>>95977431
I dont give a single fuck if you agree or disagree with me looser. I am not here for any ones validation nor do I care. All I want is to save mankind from your existence. Do it! Do your self a favor and every one else too.

You so retarded and brain rotten you think internet validation and good point points have any value you absolut spastic and moron.
How fucking sad is your life? Do you really want keep on going on like that looser?

>>95977456
he watched TTS and thinks is cannon now xDDD

>>95977450
Some of them yes. Buts its been softly retconned that they wear all black after the Emperor's internment. Even before all they they used to be naked.

>>95977457
Uh oh, ESL melty!

talk me out of buying the sororitas shrine statue

>>95977465
and you think you just made a argument? Invalidating anything I sad you pathetical dumb fuck?

Just do it.

>>95977291
Redemptor and brutalis look great.
It's just the ballistus that is weird, Ballistus would look much better if they made the twin-lascannon arm mounted like the plasma is on redemptor and then put the rocket pod just on top of the dreadnought and then made the 2nd arm into a twin-heavy bolter or a twin-assault cannon.

>>95977467
no, do it buy it its good terrain as matter of fact you should buy 4. Use it for a terrain project.
Have it as entrance portals before a church or a gate. As matter of fact you should buy 8 of them. You never know when you need them and if you can buy them in the future.


I cry because I never bought the forge world terrain. The street segments. man I wish I had done it.

>>95977457
Lmao retard
Go back to school

When is this dude gonna be available to buy? He looks cool.

>>95977506
The starter won't come out until august so add a couple of months after that.

>>95977506
Mid july or early August is my guess. But only for the big ass HH box.
Lone release might take a couple extra months

>>95977516
>>95977517
Damn it.
Well there goes my summer project idea.
But I'll wait, he looks cool.

When is the necron royal court gonna stop being out of stock?

>>95977523
Maybe you are lucky and it releases sooner or you can catch a resale of someone that doesn't want it and is not selling for profit (doubt it)

>>95977529
When the GW pays tribute to King Charles.

why did GW give pale smurfs proper claws? why not the gay nuClaws?

>>95977529
Never ever

>>95977432
absolute kino

>>95977541
Rollback of failed primaris designs and return of classic ones. Expect new tacticals and devastators next edition so that every primaris piggy needs to replace all their core infantry.

Let's say the worst happens and 40k becomes age of sigmarized, with all factions joining superfactions. Would necrons join hands with the Imperium in the armies of order and would it be enough to win against chaos and nids/orks?

>>95977541
>Raven Guard gets 3 claws because bird talons have 3 digits
>Space Woofs get 4 claws because wolf claws have 4 digits
>Black Templar guy just like Wolverine from X-Men

>>95977541
>GW makes power fists
>GW puts blades on power fists
>makes it a power fist with extra damage
>nerfs it into a power weapon with re-rolls
>still keeps the power fist design
>6-7 editions later come up with a new claw design
>immediately drop it for the same old

>>95977566
OG Bjorn had 3 blades on his claw.

>>95977550
We already have Imperium, xenos and Chaos anon.

>>95977574
Not sure what that has to do with anything I said.

>>95977574
Xenos as a faction makes no sense. Necrons or nids would never work with eldar

>>95977555
It's not happening no matter how many times you retards doompost about this. It's been like 10 fucking years. Age of Sigmar's initial launch was a horrific failure. They got back on track for awhile, and then 4th edition has been another failure. They are not looking to replicate any AoS shit with 40k at this point. It's the experimental guinea pig they use to try shit out before risking their cash cow that is 40k, and everything they've tried with AoS has been a disaster at worst and marginally tolerable by the fans at best.

They are not going to end the 40k setting and restart it.

They are not going to add endless spells to 40k.

They are not going to squish 40k factions into that "ORDER CHAOS DEATH DESTRUCTION" cringe.

They are not going to dumb the rules down further.

All of these things have been failures.

>>95977541
Why can't there be multiple lightning claw variants?

>>95977585
>They are not going to dumb the rules down further.
I don't believe you

>>95977587
There are. There are multiple variants of everything in 40k. Lorelets don't understand.

>>95977590
By many accounts 10th is not doing particularly well and 4th AoS is hurting badly. Meanwhile they've got HH with much more complex rules that is thriving.

>>95977569
Speaking of Bjorn weird that BA lost all their dreads but SW kept theirs.

>>95977598
He's a special character and one of the most iconic in the Wolves, and the oldest "living" space marine.

>>95977596
God willing they'll copy the 30k system but I think they'll just double down. Again. Expect pre-made lists with zero options outside of a deck of cards, like boarding actions.

>>95977585
>They are not going to add endless spells to 40k.
I didnt mind the idea of endless spells, though I dont think they'd work for 40k

>>95977602
Yeah but they also kept the generic dread with axe and shield. BA lot the desth company, furioso and psyker dreads for no reason.

>>95977380
>35 votes
I'm happy there seems to be a bit of interest in this. I thought we'd get like 10 votes tops.

>>95977602
Which will happen first, Russ comes back or Bjorn dies?

>>95977585
>It's been like 10 fucking years.
And each edition is more like AoS since what's your point?

>>95977608
>they also kept the generic dread with axe and shield.
It's in the same kit and Bjorn can't use those options.

>>95977612
Bjorn dies in battle when russ makes his return. He dies in his fathers arms.

>>95977612
I'm skeptical about Russ coming back at all.

Everyone forgets that Guilliman and Lion coming back were both established in 2nd edition. 2nd. All the way back in the mid 90's. All GW did was deliver on something that was already prepared decades ago.

No other Primarch was set up to come back.

>>95977619
>Russ feeling weird about some random dreadnought clinging to him when there's killing to be done

>>95977629
Meanwhile, in 1987...

>>95977431
carnac if you are going to talk to yourself, at least take your own advice

>>95977634
I was more thinking that his last son from the past, representing his own past, dies right infront of him.

>>95977640
Yeah when it explicitly said he died.

>>95977629
Counterpoint; Primarchs make money.

>>95977648
Well, considering Bjorn was demoted to a relative nobody in modern fluff and Russ spending 10,000 years fucking shit up, he probably doesn't even remember what he did or even expect the kid to be still alive after all this time?

>>95977660
Implying primarchs dont have perfect memory

>>95977602
It not like GW hasn't just deleted special characters before.

>>95977670
Most of them had a good reason to go. They didn't have models, or they had models GW wanted to memoryhole, or they were Tyranids being reabsorbed.

>>95977653
So did all the other primarchs. But Russ promised he'd come back even from the dead. Before any other primarch was given any hope of still being alive.

>>95977506
Dunno ask /hhg/

>>95977669
Dudes, this is Leman Russ we're talking about.

>>95977678
And then after that lore, they released a Space Marines codex that said Guilliman is alive in stasis, and then the Angels of Death codex that said Lion is alive on the Rock, but the Space Wolves codex said no such thing about Russ actually still being alive, just that his final words were "yeah I'll totally come back from the dead bros", which is just like, manly defiance as he dies, not actual proof of anything.

>>95977653
Jaghatai died and was resurrected so it isn't far fetched.

>>95977330
Aye aye cap

>>95977697
>they totally meant for Guilliman and Lion to come back because their dead bodies were in stasis
>no, they never meant Russ to come back despite Wolftime being in the fluff for the past 10 editions
Cope and sneed, brother, cope and sneed.

Named characters are retarded and you should feel bad for fielding them

>>95977737
what if named characters are the only thing holding the army together?

>>95977731
>>they totally meant for Guilliman and Lion to come back because their dead bodies were in stasis
Neither were dead.
GW "set" this shit up decades ago, and when I say "set up" I mean they intentionally left that door open for the future.
They 100% knew what they were doing with this.

>>95977212
>Assault Cannon
3e or 4e?

>>95977739
Play better armies?
I'm curious what army?

>>95977739
Then GW should burn for designing the army like shit on purpose.

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>95977640
40k Ragnarok when? some existential crisis befalls Fenris, and Russ returns to participate in the final battle until Fenris also breaks

>>95977198
Post one single page that suggests the necrontyr asked the old ones for immortality.

>>95977756
imperial knights please forgive me
Canis Rex has been the only thing holding up the army this entire edition

>>95977756
Outside of the only non NPC army (gsc) everyone else has at least one detachment that is dependent on a named character to function if not their entire army.
For example SoB playing without the meme nundam character is almost as playing with less point due to how much extra crap it brings to the army that other equivalent point units simply do not bring.

>>95977198
The Necrontyr were a society ruled tyranical despots who treated their subjects worse than cattle. They actively did everything in their power to make their people suffer while still keeping them yoked. It was considered an outright anomaly for a Necrontyr ruler to express care for their subject, as each Noble was meant to be a God to them.
The Old Ones did nothing wrong.

>>95977811
>Erm, actually the frogs that created the worst scourges on the galaxy were right!
Retard.
Necrontyr society was the way it was exactly due to their fleeting life and ancestor worship. Curing their gene cancer would have at least avoided them falling for the lies of the Ctan and may have mellowed them out.
But sure, say "le tyranny" for the way of governance that has existed on this earth since the dawn of time.
Btw every "democracy" is still the same, you are cattle to be ignored.

Can I get a quick rundown why I'd do panels before trim, or trim before panels, for thousand sons? I'm leaning toward the latter so I can drybrush on the trim highlights.

>>95977376
Deathstorm was pretty good suprisingly. But thank you for the scale check

>>95977846
I'd say it depends on the trim amount.
But for chaos it really might be better to do trim and then panels, yes. Just be careful

>>95977849
Well desthstorms exchanged the entire transport capcity for weapons so they had a lot more firepower than a single storm bolter. Hopefully they make a platic deathstorm kit in the future.

>>95977840
Shut the fuck up Szarekh, everyone knows you only started the war bevause your approval ratings were going down and your Phaerons started shooting each other in power struggles.
The Orks and Eldar would be kind and obedient pets working the land and serving drinks if not for you.

>>95977852
I'll try it out on my next model then. Especially since ksons are probably the trimmiest range in 40k.

>>95977846
its honestly tomato tomato, i've tried it both ways and its not really easier either way. if you do trim first you'll have to clean up the trim. if you do plate first you'll have to clean up the plate. neither one seemed to be a big time saver for me. i guess doing trim color first could be better if you have particularly clumsy hands and really struggle with trim lining

>>95977875
And it all would have been better if those pesky frogs hadn't kept the cure for mega cancer for themselves, very selfish.
That's why we needed to teach them a lesson.

>>95977786
that image doesn't say they asked for immortality
they asked for help with inherently being btfo by generations of radiation

>>95977198
Old ones and eldars did nothing wrong, necrontyrs has been such a assholes

>>95977846
>>95977882
Pro tip: paint the whole thing silver then use talassar blue for the panels and nazdreg yellow for the trim. You'll get metallic blue armour (which IMO looks cooler anyways) and it's 20 times faster.

>>95977898
>Yeah man just give the tyranical dictators obsessed with attaining Godhood the secret to immortality, they'll DEFINITELY share it with their people and use it to make the galaxy a better place

>>95977899
feel free to post one page in any necron book that shows them asking for any sort of help then.

>>95977905
I'll keep that in mind too, although my scheme's silver and burgundy. I don't care much for using speed/contrast paints but I'll pick up something like sigvald burgundy.

>>95977330
My army for a 750 point tournament next weekend.
I am well aware that I'm going to lose.

>>95977914
Could have cured the giga cancer.
As I said, it would have stripped the Necrontyr of a good chunk of why they were so aggressive.
But I guess the retards that created the elfs and orks would be short sighted retards.
Glad they got genocided

>>95977786
>>95977915
>Codex - Necrons 5th Edition, Page 6
> Only the Old Ones, first of all the galaxy's sentient life, were a prospective foe great enough to bind the Necrontyr to a common cause. Such a war was simplicity itself to justify, for the Necrontyr had ever rankled at the Old Ones' refusal to share the secrrets of eternal life. So did the Triarch declare war upon the Old Ones.

>>95977943
Do you think the necrons said the magic words when asking?

>>95977943
And it still does not invalidate that the old ones were gigantic retards.
Just lengthening the lives of all necrontyr to a level that meant they could enjoy life without it being a rush against death to get something done would have changed them.
But no, they made them bitter, and then when they had the tech to face them again, they made the fucking eldar and the orks, mauling them, making them eve MORE bitter and desperate, prime targets for the ctan
Every. Single. Fucking. Thing. That is wrong in the galaxy is the fault of the old ones.

It stands to reason that if Felinids exist, then other animal-oriented abhumans do as well, yes?
For instance, a DAOT planet COULD have genetically engineered humans with Horse DNA to create physically superior athletes for military and entertainment purposes, right?

>>95978005
>why didn't you just lengthen the lives of the evil despots?
You don't negotiate with terrorists.
>how dare you defend yourself in a war against an evil empire?
Bro fuck off, this is the most retarded leftist shit I've ever heard.

Everything the Old Ones did was justified. The Necrons are the ones that fucked the galaxy up.

>>95978013
>It stands to reason that if Felinids exist, then other animal-oriented abhumans do as well, yes?
No.

>>95977922
Just keep in mind that if you're doing metallics then contrasts lose all their downsides. They just tint the metallic underneath and the surface tension makes paintinh those panels a breeze. Just replace those contrasts with whatever colour you need. The trick is to shade and highlight the silver first and then tint it. Then you can do another highlight or weathering if you want on top.

>>95977972
I think they mimed everything due to a language barrier

>>95978015
the Necrontyr literally had not interacted with the Old Ones a single time before then, how are they "terrorists"?

>>95978005
>would have changed them
would it? or would it have made them even more fractious, tyrannical and egomaniacal? have the necrons stopped being dicks since they got their immortality? or are they still blaming the rest of the universe for their own personal issues?

Don't care. Would still buy an old ones army if it ever came out.

>>95978015
Why would you say the Necrontyr were terrorists?
They asked for the old ones to share in their knowledge, which they were freely giving and using to seed the galaxy with random life.
Everything that came after is the consequence of them being short sighted, simple as.
No amount of coping will change that.
The immaterium and the material universe were fucked by their idiocy.

>>95977943
That only says the old ones weren't sharing, not that the necrontyrs were pleading for it, the same page also says the first motive for the war was wanting a strong enemy to unite the dynasties against, the immortality thing was a justification for public relations.

post an OFFICIAL primaris with this much swag

>>95978029
>if you don't gib me gibs, it's your fault when I burn the neighbourhood.

What happens here?

>>95978036
How about you post your own model and not one stolen from reddit? Surely you have it since you obviously like it so much

What colour scheme would a battlesuit stolen by kroot be repainted as?

>>95978023
They lost their souls, their people were mindless automata and the only reason they had to fight was first as slaves to the Ctan and then freeing themselves.
Now they have nothing else than war, either for territory and extermination or to find a species to host their minds so they regain a soul.
Necrontyr were the most human like species, they would have changed if they had prospects of living a healthy life last their 30s

>>95978036
>Mk2/mk7 mixed artificer armour
Impossible.

The Old Ones denied immortality to the Necrontyr Empire because it was a violent expansionist society obsessed with death which was on the verge of breaking apart and undergoing a significant reformation. The whole reason they waged war but didn't wipe out the Necrontyr wholesale was to humble them and give time for the Necrontyr society to undergo that reform, deposing their falsely ordained 'god-kings' to create a more peaceful Empire who would use Immortality for the benefit of the galaxy, rather than just for themselves.
Unfortunately, due to the nature of the C'tan, the Old Ones couldn't foresee the divergent path that the Silent King would turn to in desperation to keep his power by way of damning not just his race, but the entire galaxy.
The Old Ones basically told the Necrontyr rulers to stop being colossal asshats, and the response was "Fuck you, now everyone will suffer".

>>95977634
>"Have I done well, my Father?"
>"No, Bjorn, my son..."

>"You were one of my finest warriors."

>>95978022
>>95978029
>the Necrontyr literally had not interacted with the Old Ones a single time before then, how are they "terrorists"?
They were evil, so you don't give them things that make them more powerful. The Necrons are not poor misunderstood babies who dindu nuffin. If the Old Ones, who are explicit Word of God narration benevolent and wise, decided NOT to help the Necrontyr, they had a good reason - the Necrontyr were evil and it would have been a mistake to help them in any way.

>The immaterium and the material universe were fucked by their idiocy.
No it was fucked by the Necrontyr going to war with them. A war that was not morally justifiable on their part but was absolutely morally justifiable on the Old Ones part.

>>95978040
The best of braps happens in the south pole

Need to choose a Space Marine Chapter for painting the helmet that my GSC Patriarch holds

>>95978043
Has aura due to great pose but no personality in the armour itself, is just a newbie int with a cloth and standard helm. Not anywhere near how a firstborn lt. would dress

>>95978046
>mixed
What's the MkVII part? There are MkII torsos with a very MkVII looking breastplate.

>>95978029
>Pearl Harbour was US's fault for not letting Japan have oil so they could conquer more of Asia

>>95977914
Not the Phaeron, but I'm pretty sure most of our aggression was rooted in our inability to enjoy life due to our miserable existence. If we didn't have to worry about dying, much of our hatred may have been absolved because we could've appreciated the universe around us.

>>95978072
nta but the helm and power pack

>>95978072
He's literally holding a MkVII helmet

>>95977190 (OP)
Tyranids made me interested but a friend already had them and i am shit at painting so my first army was Necrons.

>>95978045
>They lost their souls
Because they didn't value them in the first place, when they should have, before being immortal
>their people were mindless automata
The royals did that consciously to their subjects, because they didn't care about their people
>slaves to the Ctan
They chose to serve them, they accepted their terms, the command matrix was always in the hand of their own ruler
>Now they have nothing else than war
They have no need to expand because they have no population growth or physical needs, they have no need to exterminate others because they can protect and reanimate themselves and they have no need to enslave other races because they can study biology without sacrificing entire systems

Necrontyr were already soulless rotten people, 30 more years of life wouldn't have changed anything about their mentality, they would have simply started to lament that they couldn't have more and more and more and more

>>95978080
So you are choosing to ignore the whole thing about THE DECEIVER and how they were duped into giving up their souls under false pretenses?

I'm still thinking about the anon who got autistically upset at people calling Non-Earth solar systems, solar systems and not star systems or plantery systems. Sol = our sun in latin but since Sol is latin for sun and stars are sun all star systems are solar systems. Behold all many thousands of solar systems, also I wonder what star charts in 40k look like. Probably increbily intricate, ancient and damaged and unreadable

>>95977190 (OP)
>What army made you interested in the hobby?
Nids from the 1998 Citadel Catalog, with the old Screamer-Killer and the sword-arm xenomorph-head hormagaunts and the disc-head Zoanthrope with legs and shit. But especially the Lictor.

>>95978076
>>95978077
Yes, and...? Helmets, pads and backpacks are shown to be interchangeable across the board. Imagine if legion artificers had to make 5-7 versions of each helmet variant they have or all your assault squads had to get new jump packs as well when a new armour drops.

>>95977598
Not really. The people in charge of the SW release clearly love the chapter and went out of their way to make and keep the stuff they like.
The people in charge of the BA release phoned it in as much as possible, like with most SM releases

>>95978102
>Yes, and...?
What the fuck do you mean "and", you were asking how it was a mix of two armour marks and people pointed out the parts that were mixed.

>>95978080
>no need to enslave other races because they can study biology without sacrificing entire systems
Hey now! I take offense to that! Slaves make the best subjects for any experiment you please! The crunchy meatbags make the most satisfying sound when you crush them!

>>95978091
Does he also get mad at other planets having moons?

>>95978102
power armour being backwards compatible is surprisingly forward thinking but that does not undo the question how is it mixed and the answer that the helmet and power pack are mixed with a suit of mk2

>>95978111
Just don't call them Luna I guess?

>Servitor battleclade heavy servitors can actually build two heavy bolters instead of 1 heavy bolter and 1 heavy arc rifle
>nobody from the design studio told the intern responsible for writing the 40k datacard .pdf
>in those rules they're hard locked to 1 of each

I fucking hate this edition like you would not believe.

>>95978105
>The people in charge of the SW release
Darren Latham, actually

>>95978053
>the Old Ones, who are explicit Word of God narration benevolent and wise
>The same people that created Orks and Eldar
yea, right

>>95978107
You clearly don't even know what armour mixing truly is. Besides, how do you know it's not a Sarum pattern helmet?

>>95978089
>they were duped into giving up their souls under false pretenses?
They designed the biotransference together, they agreed about making the commoners mindless puppets together, if they lost their souls during the process it was because they didn't even know they had them, because they didn't value them, they weren't looking to protect them, they realised the value of what they lost only after they gave it away, they call that ctan the deceiver because they cannot bear to admit their own faults, and the worst part is the king's own trusted future reader warned them, and they didn't want to listen.

The necrons have noone to blame but themselves.

>>95978091
That anon was right

can you take a dorn in GSC? is it good?

not a big fan of the russ but the dorn dont look too bad

>>95978144
To be fair, the orks degenerated from a different form of life, while eldar were adopted.

>>95978144
Eldar and Krorks were not inherently evil, they degenerated and went astray without the Old Ones after the damage done by the War in Heaven.

>>95978091
>I'm still thinking about the anon who got autistically upset at people calling Non-Earth solar systems
That's because he was right and that other autist was just riling him up

>>95978137
Because they are hard locked in KT right now, and people would complain if the optins would be different in the games i guess.

>>95978118
How is MkII/VII mix impossible if helmets and packs are swappable?

>>95978159
That's literally only Tzeras's fault.

>>95978160
As all linguists will tell you, language is a social construct and no one can agree what a word or a syllable is. 'Planetary system' 'star systems' etc doesn't sound as nice to meas solar system. So I will say 'binary/tri sun solar system' 'solar system with an abscent sun', 'solar system with a blackhole instead of a sun' and so on to describe all configurations of solar systems. Language changes and some fucking star nerds will not tell me what to call other solar systems.

>>95978168
I love this picture that tries to connect eldar and slaan but the slaan are a third party sculpters take and not at all official. Beautiful models though, you should probably compare them to retro eldar

>>95978160
>>95978177
Nasa's own sites occasionally refer to other systems as solar systems, you can't really police language, both are used in practice and etymologically make sense even if only one is the one that offers the least confusion, and thus "official".

>>95978171
Anon the Kroks are unapologetically made for war. They might have been smarter that modern orks but definitely not less blood thirsty. They still literally thrive in warfare.
Even if the eldar were not a bunch of degenerates until the war ended that change the fact that the war in heaven lore is incredibly retarded. There was no reason for the Old Ones to make 2 new races that will come to dominate the galaxy just to fight the one race that is doing the same and would be much less of a bunch of assholes if they just got to live longer
The Necron lore is also pretty retarded tho. With how ridiculous their technology is it makes not sense that they couldn't boost their own lifespans. The star of your original planet being highly radioactive shouldn't be an issue when you are a galaxy spanning empire to begin with

I think warhammer 40k is a cool setting.

>>95978179
Ok, but the kit builds it. Why the fuck does NEITHER system include rules for something that's in the fucking kit?

I think warhammer is a lazy setting

>>95978191
>>95978211

>As all linguists will tell you, language is a social construct and no one can agree what a word or a syllable is.
This part is true, but the problem is, if you change things to pander to idiots who can't use correct terminology, that's basically retarded cuckoldry. Like when President Bush couldn't say the word "nuclear", he kept saying it like "nuke-ular", so the dictionary writers cucked out and added "nucular" as an alternative spelling/pronunciation. Okay, it is now technically correct, but only because a few people agreed "let's just let retards decide the language I guess instead of correcting them."

I think warhammer is a shit setting

>>95978217
>>95978223
It was

>>95978198
Unfortunately, GW made very few space slann minis and they were undeniably uglier and less inspired than their fantasy versions of the same time, this one is my favourite and went unreleased.

I think warhammer is a setting

I have no strong feelings on warhammer as a setting

>>95978068
Black Templars

>>95978215
>Anon the Kroks are unapologetically made for war.
I mean, so are Space Marines.

>>95978220
I gues it was planned but cancled for balance reasons or whatever brainfart. Or maybe just for the future when it becomes a non KT kit.

>>95978230
>Okay, it is now technically correct, but only because a few people agreed "let's just let retards decide the language I guess instead of correcting them
Anon I'm sorry to say but that's just how language works, lingusitic drift means people use the words they want to use and pronounce them the way they want to pronounce them. Its young women who mostly drive the change in langauge between generations.
Honestly the Imperium having a coherent 'high gothic' so everyone can speak to each other regardless of their personal 'low gothic' which is just whatever they speak on their planet, is the real miracle of 40k.

>>95978215
>The Necron lore is also pretty retarded tho. With how ridiculous their technology is it makes not sense that they couldn't boost their own lifespans.
This is why ancient 40k history should never be explicitly spelled out by the writers and left to be mysterious and inaccurate legends and shit.

>>95978215
The Necrontyr were just really bad at biology.

>>95978245
The Imperium is not "Word of God narration benevolent and wise"
They are pretty unapologetical assholes to anything that is not human and any human that opposes them

>>95978260
yup. Same thing with HH. The more books they've written about the setting the more retarded it has become

>>95978259
>Honestly the Imperium having a coherent 'high gothic' so everyone can speak to each other regardless of their personal 'low gothic' which is just whatever they speak on their planet, is the real miracle of 40k.
I think they actually work very hard to go out of their way to preserve this using institutions like the Ecclesiarchy and so forth. They also have things like the Sisters Dialogus and Lexmechanics in the AdMech (I believe that's the right one) who study language and specialize in translation and communications. Older 40k lore is better thought out than most people give it credit for.

>>95978270
>They are pretty unapologetical assholes to anything that is not human and any human that opposes them
And that's a good and moral thing.

>>95978260
They could fix it by having a necron lord in universe stumble upon the most complete and detailed book on necrons written by humans in some inquisiton library and just laughing and mocking it/ being utterly dismissive of how wrong it is.

>>95978278
Based

>>95978270
>human that opposes them
or just sneezed wrong

>>95978282
This is a bit too cartoonish I think, they fix it by just writing codexes the way they used to where 99% of the lore is told from in-universe documents and reports from random Magi and Inquisitors who are speculating on shit and offering multiple possibilities in the same breath.

>>95978278
I like how the cover implies that living saints while being so rare in the untold trillions dead across the galaxy every year, are common enough that some random inquisiton band has one. A lot of martyrs are very very famous and popular in certain parts of the imperium to the point they come back as angels of the Emperor (his daemons) and yet are utterly unknown to the vast vast majority of humanity.

>>95978303
This is also true of space marines but they show up on cover art. The cover art scene is chosen because it's important figures, it isn't just "random warband".

>>95978293
The speculation of the planet sized something the tyranids are bringing is a great example of that

>>95978215
>The Necron lore is also pretty retarded tho.
What was the point of having them sleep for millions of years again?
Cuz originally they were just the mindless servants of the C'Tan and the C'Tan needed the galaxy to recover so they could keep consuming it
But in the newer lore they vanquish the C'Tan and trap them to be used as batteries so why are they even sleeping to begin with?

>>95978315
True, they did a fucking amazing job with the Fourth Tyrannic War lore actually (ignoring that one incredibly shitty Black Library book) I was pleasantly surprised. Too bad we didn't get a real global campaign out of it like we should have.

>>95978321
>(ignoring that one incredibly shitty Black Library book)
The only recent nid book I know of is the great Deathworlder. Which bl slop are you referring to?

>>95977190 (OP)
>TQ
Skaven, then Tzeentch in general

Rolled 18 (1d100)

>>95976571
>roll a dice to see if I do the submit to purchase
>rolled a 100
I did a thing 8 hours ago. Now to explain it to my wife when she gets up.

Wish me luck!

>>95978327
Fucking why

>>95978325
Leviathan, the one that came out right alongside 10th edition

WHy haven't we got a unique broodlord genestealer/patriarch. What would one look like

>>95978327
Uhhh... what? You bought... 12 starter sets?

>>95978343
>unique/named character
Fuck off

>>95978327
bro, that's the normal starter set that msrps for like $112, not the ultimate
you could be buying multiple lots of 10 termagaunts for $16 instead

>>95978316
The Silent King thought the Eldar were too powerful and the Necrons too weak after rebelling against the C'Tan. He thought it would be a good idea to just hide until they all died.

>>95978336
I convert. The psychophage has a good face and an easy to convert body.
>gaunts ezpz for hormagaunts and spinefist dudes
>snake bodies for 15 ryans leapers to turn them into raveners, remove talons for other models
>18 leapers, ez
>3 lictors+neurolictors from primes, hallow out wings for talons and reposition them+additional conversions
>tfw I figured out an easy way to do mawlocs and trygons, its PVC pipe heated and pinched like the old make-a-bow videos+other conversion stuff

120+120 gaunts, 3 primes, all 6 lictors, 18 ryans, 15 raveners, 5 adaptive raveners, 3 screamerkillers, 3 mawlocs, 3 trygons, 3 psychophages(if I hate phages I'm g onna carnifex them)
Primes are almost OK to run as 3 dudes and attack like the old warriors with wings.
>I've done army conversions that took months before

>>95978327
What are you going to do with 12 Primes, 12 Psychophages, 36 Von Ryans... etc.

Good luck selling all the extra shit when the market is already flooded with them just from Leviathan alone. You better hope you can get decent prices for the Marines.

>>95978316
The explanation after the retcon was that the after extinguishing the old ones and sharding the ctan, the necrons had expended too much power and couldn't hope to win against the now ascendant eldar, so they went to sleep with the assurance that they could simply wait for the eldar to die out eventually.

It assumes that
>the sleeping necrons tomb worlds couldn't be reliably found by the eldar
>the necrons could predict, more or less a few millennia, when the eldar would fall, 60 millions years ahead of it OR had systems or people tasked to keep watch over the eldar and start the awakening as soon as they detected the fall of the eldar
>whatever the necrons lost during the fight against the old ones and ctan couldn't be rebuilt (in the case of the ctan, it could be the power and infrastructures relying on the ctan themselves) OR even the necrons at their peak had no hope of facing the ascendant eldar

I don't like it, there's no sense of doom because there's no ticking clock, it's not like "they were rebuilding their forces and needed 60 million years for it" (dumb timeframe to begin with), it's passive and reactive instead of giving them a reason with an agency like the previous story did.

>>95978040
swag

>>95978353
Yea see the problem with that is that there's nothing stopping the eldar from digging you out and you are not getting any stronger by being asleep...
It would have made more sense if they were hiding in pocket dimensions instead of literal holes in the ground...

>>95978352
>>95978336
>>95978344
The termies are getting turned into a 55 terminator army for 2000 points. Deathwatch for +1guns and I'll be doing missile launchers, and the leader dudes will make great thunder hammer squad for the 2500pt level.

The 60 marines, no idea yet. I may buy some 3dprinted guns to make them intercessors to start the last bit of the marine armies.

>>95978365
I convert things. I like to convert. Psychophages with the "marine arm" will suck getting that off each of them. The tongues are easy to cut and just spin a little to make them all look different.

Seriously thats what the psychophage is for. Converting into literally almost any other biggie monster.

>>95978370
>puke marines

Can you subscribe to Combat Patrol after a certain issue or do you need to start from the beginning? I'm only interested in the GSC issues. Alternatively can you order only specific issues without a subscription?

>>95978389
You can order issues from the webpage (At least the spanish one) but they go out of stock immediately if it's something worth it so you'd have to keep an eye on them
I don't think you can even subscribe from the beginning. You start getting issue from the one you subscribe onwards

>>95978372
It's a bad retcon, especially since he just fucked off to another galaxy and only came back when the Tyranids showed up. He could have just packed up his race and taken them with him if he really wanted to save them from the Eldar.

>>95978327
carnac you don’t have a wife, you are a perpetual virgin

>>95978399
Thanks, the one in Germany is still at issue 24 so there's plenty of time until the GSC issues.
https://www.hachette.de/de-de/Warhammer-Combat-Patrol/shop/

>Imperium has literal divine angels and holy faith
>People still think they aren't the good guys
How?

>>95978448
Gods aren't inherently good.

>>95978448
Chaos also has angels.

>>95978448
>muh slaughter civilized aliens before they're space faring
>did this thousands of times

Its not amazing but im making an exodite falcon proxy

>>95978343
>nyarlothep-like wandering messenger of tiamat, the absolute first patriarch of all genestealers, born on the moon of ymgarl, a twisting figure of writhing tentacles more than a coherent organism, extremely religious vibes

>ghosar quintus patriarch, the first to be discovered and allegedly slain, in truth just wounded and it fled with his closest guards and agents, not really that special, but he can have a cool scar, a "reverse tyrannic war veteran" gimmick, and perhaps a plot hook about reconnecting the large cult network (explaining why he would be found in other cults' armies) that was found and destroyed/scattered, and perhaps even enact an aggressive campaign against the deathwatch specifically

>malstrain patriarch, fat, bloated and repugnant in everything, to the point he makes use of tainted artifacts and troops (callback to the old chaos genestealers, but without being simply under chaos, he would instead use the evil artifacts, leaving whether he's a puppet or can even become such up to the player's own interpretation, the most interesting idea is that the demons too would be disgusted by the malstrains)

>broodlord that led the genestealers to slaughter over 90% of the blood angels in that fateful space hulk, the only thing particularly special about it would be the age and the arrival on the battlefield via meteor showers from the space hulk (which may or may not be guided by the genestealers'/tyranids' wills) use wormholes (literal, look them up in nids fluff) to return back to the space hulk, effectively creating a mostly tyranids-less and hybrids-less microfaction of spaceborne stealers

>an even more xenomorph-like lone agent, the gimmick is that noone has the slightest idea what it is, beyond that's possibly a pitch black genestealer, and that it's so negatively psychic that the other tyranids on the battlefield need to stay away from it (and that narratively speaking, the hive has to put it down at the end of the battle)

rate

>>95978472
I would legitimately refuse to play with you if you showed up saying that's a Falcon.

Tell me your favourite and least favourite model off your faction.
For me it's a tie between this guy and the plagueburst crawler.
Least favourite is Typhus

>>95978482
why? id say it was a vyper but it has a bright lance and a shuriken catapult on it

>>95978472
add a proper saddle

>>95978481
>rate
Too much texto

did gw get rid of all current torrents?

Does anyone have the Boarding Action Book's pdf?

>>95978502
no, it was the nogame tourists who reported the troves out of spite for the kind of posts 4chan has.

>>95978522
Yeah but its too big.

>>95978541
ONEGAISHIMASU

>>95977629
They don't care. They will keep churning out Primarch models for 40k and fan boys will clap and giggle.

>>95978541
Use catbox

>>95978466
>muh aliens

>>95977629
russ literally has a prophecy about returning
vulkan and the khan and corvus too
not to mention the space wolves codex confirms he's getting a model the same way the 9e dangel codex confirmed his return

Are sergeants of units considered characters in 10th? For the purpose of getting crusade relics and whatnot.

>>95978576
no

>>95978587
Well fuck.

>>95978370
>"The Imperium was mean, so we willingly worship space hell now"
pathetic
>"My whole chapter was eaten by a daemonic ham planet, bro I'm so hungry"
poetry

>>95977190 (OP)
>TQ
Well i was 8 or something so Tyranids.

how the hell do we kill dreadnoughts? -1 damage forever is insane

>>95978448
Because the introduction to the setting describes them as "the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable."

>>95978545
Why did they give this one the classic back design, but the new kit doesn't? Fuck GW is so confusing.

Does anyone have a scan of the new space wolves codex by any chance

>>95978599
Just make one more damage.... melta and lascannons for days man.

Nothing week for 40k

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/idqpwh8t/sunday-preview-the-idoneth-deepkin-breach-the-waves/

GW WHERE ARE THE DROP POD RULES

>>95978643
open those drop pods' doors, slut

>>95978650
They stay closed until the touch ground and I make smash noises like God intended.

>>95978643
>GW WHERE ARE THE DROP POD RULES
I want them too. Seriously, fuck GW for delaying the rules for no reason.

>>95978643
I think ODST did irreparable damage to my brain with that drop pod intro I've been obsessed with the concept since.

>>95978632
We just got space wolves

>>95978643
>>95978656
is this actually you are you just posting someone elses models

>>95978632
>Nothing week for 40k
Our wallets can breathe a sigh of relief.

>>95977747
10th

>>95978448
Because the Imperium is still bunch of evil cunts.
And the notion that something that is "holy" and "angelic" must be somehow innately "good" is entirely baseless and just retards looking at aesthetics "broo they are so shiny, there's no way they are evil".

Like do people forget that the Emperor lives off of extremely brutal and horrific human sacrifice that is done everyday?

>>95978670
I'm just posting pics of drop pods. I do have a few including a couple of deathstorms but I'm repainting them.

>>95977380
Do we just post replying to you go submit a model?

>>95978705
>You can submit your vehicles to this post
can you not read

>necron overlord misses in assault completely
>the grunts finish the job
>boy we're going to complain about this guy at the water cooler when we get back
>if only we had personalities

>>95978663
same

>>95978715
Oh shoot whoops

Infractor

>>95977479
I like to think the Ballistus is a space marine who was either really good at long range stuff or so beat up they don't want him doing anything but shooting from the back row.

>>95978610
https://vk.com/topic-209634030_53378238?offset=20
here you go buddy

>>95978481
Is it even viable to make a list that's made almost exclusively of genestealers with the tyranids codex?

>>95978689
And it's all moral and for the good of humanity.
In a galaxy of quadrillions of humans, with horrors and evil beyond mortal comprehension, having a few thousand sacrificed for humanity to have FTL, communications and a spiritual lodestone it's not a great sacrifice.
You equating saints and miracles to the daemons and sorcery marks you as the kind of retard that would fall for chaos.

>>95978670
Just stealing them. It’s all he has.

>>95978689
>Like do people forget that the Emperor lives off of extremely brutal and horrific human sacrifice that is done everyday?
Those sacrificed to the Emperor are honored for it and live forever within his domain, where he watches over their souls and prevents the predations of Chaos daemons.

>>95978905
The emperor protects
Maybe not you personally, but at the macro scale he will guide his servants to tip the scale in favour of humanity.

>>95978905
>Those sacrificed to the Emperor are honored for it and live forever within his domain, where he watches over their souls and prevents the predations of Chaos daemons.
none of this is true

>>95978689
>just retards looking at aesthetics
All just morality is intrinsically founded on aesthetic beauty.

And no, I'm not going to pretend celestine the living martyr is as evil as gruntsnarlkill murderlord babiesflayer the 666th from the hellish circle of skullfuck torture.

>>95978663
I am still angry at empty open world games.

>terrain at 3 votes
It's not looking good, poorfag bros.

>>95978917
Ok cultist, very compelling
Now please face the wall

>>95978887
>And it's all moral and for the good of humanity.
It's not and it's been established fact for decades that the Imperium is slowly killing humanity and it will inevitably go extinct because of it.
The reason why Chaos is so abundant and so powerful in the modern times is all entirely and DIRECTLY because of the Imperium and the Emperor fucking up.
Emperor because he thought could cheat omnipotent and omniscient daemon assholes and get away with it.
And the Imperium because all of the blatant unnecessary suffering and cruelty it flays humanity alive with, nevermind the horrid living conditions and the abject misery and slavery that is human existance in the Imperium.
Do nothing but drive Imperium's own citizens towards Chaos because people would rather chance it with literal tumorous cancer demons from hell than live 1 more second within the Imperium and under its oppression.

Imperium creates it's own problems and is much of a problem than anything else.
It being the "last bastion of humanity" means nothing when it is objectively killing humanity along with it.

>>95978663
Drop pod assaults are just cool, no matter the context.
And when they drop the dreadnought drop pod... That shit hits different.
God bless the second carcharadons novel and that leviathan dread

>>95977190 (OP)
>Violence Edition
I'd be disappointed if we didn't have a violence edition. Gotta get the youth up in arms about VIOLENCE.

>>95978905
>Those sacrificed to the Emperor are honored for it and live forever within his domain, where he watches over their souls and prevents the predations of Chaos daemons.
This is unironic fanfiction and not even remotely true. Belief in the Emperor doesn't give any sort of after life.

No matter how pious and zealous believer you are, once you die only thing that awaits you is getting your soul raped and tortured by daemons within the Warp for the rest of eternity.

>>95978917
Cope. The Emperor is thebstrongest being within the Warp and it takes all four Chaos Gods just to restrain him. Living Saints are the embodiment of His will made manifest within chosen loyal servants. Even the designated anti-soul technology of the Necrons is defeated by Faith in the Emperor.
Xenos receive nothing after death except oblivion because they lack proper souls.
Traitors receive eternal torment outside of His realm for their betrayal.

>>95978905
Aren’t the souls of astronomican psykers literally burned out like fuel and no longer exist?

>>95978944
Wrong. 10,000 years of faity has orainded that the Emperor stands above all others and his power surpasses that ofbthe Chaos Gods. As such he has made his own domain within the Warp, one where thensouls of loyal humans exist after death in peace. In The Beast books an eldar glimpses His domain and it makes her scream and break down in terror because she realizes that the Emperor is the only hope for the Galaxy, and that the Eldar will never be saved because of it.

>>95978930
>>95978947
why are we being raided by zoomers who larp like imperials again

>>95978960
Yes, and nobody in 99.99% of the imperium even knows they were sacrificed or even abducted in the first place, they get no honors and they have no afterlife

>>95978933
Nice chaos cope.
The warp and chaos is the fault of the old ones, necrons and eldar.
Humanity is most affected because it's the most successful race in current time.
If it weren't for the emperor and the astronomican humanity would have fallen on a second Old Night, chaos was actually scared of the Emperor in his prime.
The emperor is the last bastion of humanity and beacon of hope against chaos and the alien. You are just blind because the measures needed for humanity to survive are icky to you

>>95978965
Being pro imperium is the human choice
Glad you self report

>>95978984
You have to be 18 to post here.

>>95978984
>Pro imperium unironically
>ESL
>Most likely brown
You can't make this up

>>95978985
I'm not the one with the underage "le deep" opinion

>>95978840
my headcannon is that ballistus dreads tend to be veteran scout sgts who die

>>95978990
It's not an opinion, it's the defining fact of the setting

>>95978989
Projection much, anon?

>>95978994
And it's all needed for humanity to live.
Why is it so hard for you to understand?

>Xenosfags angry they're irrelevant
>Chaosfags angry they're doomed
Love to see it

>>95979000
>And it's all needed for humanity to live.
It's the opposite, tourist
The brutal regime is what causes chaos worship and GSCs to be so prevalent

Anyone ever made a Tyranid themed spacewolf army?

Am I crazy or have they not shown what the space yiff patrol box is yet

Fuck this
Total human death. Total imperium death.
We are the rightful heirs to this galaxy, and your entire race is naught but specks of shit in the asscrack of reality.
While you were just worms crawling in primordial ooze, we were killing the gods themselves.
The stars were young when our empire was ascendant.
And when the last of them die, we alone will remain.
For we are Immortal.

>>95979011
Look at this fucking retard.
Your understanding of this setting is as deep as the 40k ticktocks you consume are short

>>95979022
The contents were leaked a while ago, 10 blood claws 5 Wolfguard Terminators 5 Wolfen 1 Battle Leader, but yeah GW hasn't announced it for some reason

>>95979024
HELL YEAH MY PHAERON!!!

>>95979032
>projection from the tourist mad that the setting all about there being no good side and the imperium being self-defeating because it goes against his worldview of noble spaceknights fighting the big bad evil guys
calm down little timmy

>>95978995
>N-no u
Embarrassing shitskin
>>95979032
Don't get so mad about your wrong ideas of the setting Pablo

>>95979024
>The stars were young when our empire was ascendant.
No they weren't, you're only 65 million years old
sharks have been on earth in the current year longer than necrons have existed in 40k

>>95979052
>>95979049
Lol
Lmao
Cope harde chaos niggers

>>95978964
He doesn't.
Imperial after life is pure fanfiction and doesn't exist anywhere in canon.
All human souls drop into the Warp and then dissolve into or become play things of daemons, that's the unsavory truth of it.

>>95979055
>no they weren’t, you’re only—ACK!!

>>95978977
>it's le xenos
Imperium and the Emperor are the ones who've given Chaos its most strongest forces and manpower. Humanity as whole is the sole reason why Chaos is a problem.
Also nevermind that it is canon that the final battle between the Emperor and Horus is the reason why the Chaos has existed since the dawn of time.

>>95979055
That's when they went to sleep.
Necrons were active since waaaay before

>>95979000
>And it's all needed for humanity to live.
Objectively wrong evidenced by many official sources. Both modern Imperium and in the Great Crusade.
And it is a fact of the setting that the Imperium is slowly choking the life out of humanity.

>>95979078
Are you going to ignore the elfs birthing a chaos god and fucking up the warp in recent times?

>>95979080
>Necrons were active since waaaay before
nope

>>95979000
>The Imperium's cruelty is necessary and the alternative is destruction.
>The Imperium's cruelty is unnecessary and goes beyond necessary evil.
>muh imperium is as cruel as it is because it is necessary
>muh imperium is unnecessarily cruel
Choose

>>95979082
>>95979093
Don't try to explain basic facts of the setting to underaged brownoid, they can't comprehend anything more complex than Goku getting stronger if he almost dies

>>95979077
>>95979040
>>95979024
Whenever some xeno players start to get a bit uppity (its the necrons, tau and eldar fags, usually) I just go to the Warhammer website and look at pic rel and laugh.

>>95979083
And humanity awoke and "birthed" the other 3.
And it is a fact that the Emperor's and Horus' final battle shattered space time on the Vengeful Spirit which let the agony and suffering of the Siege of Terra to pour out at the begining of time.
This is the unsavory truth, humanity is the reason why Chaos exists in the first place and always was. And chaos is the reflection of humanity itself.

Humanity damned itself long ago.

>>95979078
I find it kinda retarded how Khorne woke up during humanity's medieval age. Why didn't he wake up during the War in Heaven, or was it just some bullshit like the Old Ones were holding off chaos or something?

>>95979097
Where's the joke buckley

>>95979104
>Poster boys
>Good guys
>Bad guys
>Others

Xenos are litterally npc tier factions GW lumped together at the bottom if the list.

>>95979107
Ah, you're just a retard got it.

>THE CHAOS GODS ARE BUT FAKE GODS, TRAITORS TO THE ONE TRUE CHAOS GOD WE CALL THE EMPEROR
>AS YOURSELF WHY IN SPITE OF ALLEGED CONFLICTS, THEY ALWAYS TEAM UP AND WHY EVERCHOSENS AND ABADDON/HORUS MANAGED TO GET THEM TO WORK TOGETHER AGAINS THE EMPEROR? WHY THEY'RE ALWAYS THE SAME AND UNCHANGING IN AESTHETIC OR VIBE DESPITE CALLING THEMSELF "CHAOS"?
>IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE BUT GODS OF ORDER, WHO BACKSTABBED OUR ONE TRUE CHAOS GOD-EMPEROR AND KEPT HIM IMPRISONED IN TERRA
>ALL THE PRIMARCHS ARE TRAITORS, THE ONES OPENLY SERVING THE FALSE CHAOS GODS OR THE PRETEND LOYALISTS KEEPING HIM ALIVE AND UNABLE TO REINCARNATE
>SEE THE TYRANIDS COMING TO TERRA, THEY ARE THE EMPEROR'S ATTEMPT TO DESTROY HIS MORTAL PHYSICAL PRISON AND RECLAIM HIS RIGHTFUL PLACE FROM THE USURPERS
>TO SERVE OUR BELOVED CHAOS EMPEROR, WE MUST DESTROY ALL OF THE TRAITORS AND TERRA ITSELF SO HE MAY BE FREED FROM HIS PRISON

>>95979000
It's literally not, though. The bloated bureaucracy, religiosity, and extreme ignorance of the Imperium are all things the Emperor never intended and his whole shtick was for humanity to survive.

>>95978918
>All just morality is intrinsically founded on aesthetic beauty.
Shut the fuck up, Fulgrim. Go back to your goon planet.

>>95979158
Slaaneshi shit isn't beautiful.

>>95978944
IIRC is not fanfiction, it's in game propaganda, what the Ecclesiarchy tells its believers.
Then of course people can't distinguish between in lore truth and in lore propaganda.

Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>95978626
Oh boy I hope I don't get a shit roll!

>>95979186
it's also perfectly possible and reasonable for it to be true, given how the warp works, but it would be for only an infinitesimally small number of souls, not certainly all the uncountable billions of people who die for the imperium and the emperor, even if they were genuinely fervent.

>>95979112
Cope. Enjoy being the warm up villain in every story before Chaos shows up.

>>95979212
really trying too hard

>>95979212
Imagine taking pride on the fact your faction cannot sustain a narrative on its own but must attach onto some xenos' sloppy seconds.

When you attack with Precision, do you allocate the attack after you deal a successful wound to the bodyguard unit? In that case you need to take the Toughness characteristic of the bodyguard unit, but then the save must be made by the character model right? Can you also slow roll to see if you manage to kill the character, then allocate the rest to the bodyguard unit as usual?

>>95979256
I roll as many dice as I need to kill that character
So if it's a 4w character and I have a guy with 6 precision d2 attacks, I roll 2 at a time, then when he fails one I slowroll, then back to rolling at the rest of the group

>>95979265
My question was, let's say you target a Canoptek Wraith led by a Technomancer with precision. The wraiths have T6, whereas the Technomancer has T4 so do you need to make the roll for T4 or T6 as there's the huge difference between them.

>>95979294
Slow roll hits and then wounds and then damage(if applicable) until leader is dead

>>95979299
YES OR NO MFER

>>95979100
>That sloppa nu-lore
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Fuck off

>>95979133
And still, all the sacrifices and toil is for the continuance of humanity in a galaxy of horrors.
How hard is it to understand?

>>95979320
It's canon.
Go cry to /grog/ if you don't like it.

>>95979100
>And humanity awoke and "birthed" the other 3.
No, it didn't.
>the Emperor's and Horus' final battle
Is irrelevant.

>>95979326
>all the sacrifices and toil
Which is actively killing humanity, the codexes and rulebooks numerous times have highlighted the fact that the Imperium is steering humanity into slow inevitable extinction due to its actions.

>>95979329
>No, it didn't.
It did.
>Is irrelevant.
It's not.

>>95979334
Wrong, we have been over this, it's the galaxy of horrors which is steering humanity into slow inevitable extinction due to the measures they're forced to take.

>>95979326
>>95979349
Nope, they're an active detriment to humanity
Sorry but your /r/horusgalaxy understanding of the setting isn't correct!

>>95979100
>And humanity awoke and "birthed" the other 3.
Dont treat Rogue Trader info as canon unless it has been confirmed in later editions.
Lore back then was... peculiar

>>95979341
No, it didn't, and yes, it was irrelevant.

You're wrong until you post an actual citation and not your interpretation of a dreamlike sequence of subjective nonsense that doesn't even come at the exclusion of other interferences.

>>95979100
You got all wrong.
All of the lore. I dont know how could you come to that conclusion.

>>95979360
>unless it has been confirmed in later editions.
Good news, the end and death confirmed it again for you :)

>>95979359
>they're an active detriment to humanity
wrong, if they were inactive humanity would fall to the galaxy of horrors immediately, so you're objectively wrong and your mom is a hoe, horus wrote it at the beginning of time so that the writing on the tapestry of the cosmos could expand fast enough to match your mom's gigantic ass.

Do you guys think an 'elite' squad counts if it's something completely 3D Printed?
I'm going for court of the archon

>>95979369
That's even more stupid than the Yu-Gi-Oh duel between Emps vs Horus

>>95979378
Look, if the miniatures are cool and painted then they could be handcarved out of the bones of baby seals that were clubbed to death in the most painful way possible by a select group of baby seals haters for all I care.

>>95979369
it did not so such thing and you should it read again.

>>95979294
You roll against the toughness of the unit (in this case t6 of the wraith) and after that you alllocate the wound to the character (technomancer).

>>95979367
It's not "fighting", it's just a retard getting trolled or one shitposter samefagging, it happens almost every thread after the bump limit

>got invited for a game by my friend
"Anon, I would like to have some proxies. There are some units I want to try out"
>Sure, why not, agree with the him proxying
>Game night comes around
>He's playing custodes
>His army is 36 models total
>Only 4 are not proxied in some way
>Only 1 is basecoated, rest is in grey plastic
>My army is in full paint, WYSIWYG, no proxies

I don't really mind him proxying the ridiculously overpriced forge world tank, and he didn't really bring anything gamebreaking, didn't max out any unit, and I don't even give a shit about WYSIWYG, it's just a nice thing to have IMO.

But the fact he has such low model count and he still had to proxy units he does own, but was too lazy to put together in the three weeks time between us scheduling the game, and actually playing it, is kinda insulting to me.

Is it wrong if I feel offended by his laziness?

>>95977190 (OP)
Which 40k novels are good if I just want cool war scenes? 30k is also acceptable

>>95979493
I dunno ask /hhg/

>LGS starts stocking Pokemon last Friday
>two fights already broke out over Pokemon cards
This isn't gonna happen to Warhammer where nerds are going to camp out and scalp products from the LGS, right?

>>95979461
it's wrong to feel offended only if you went along with it anyway.

>>95979404
>Runtherd technically has T5
>Ability makes it T2 when with gretchin
So what the fuck is the point of the Runtherd?

>>95979461
>Is it wrong if I feel offended by his laziness?
You should feel disappointed at worst to be honest.

As for proxying. I am working on a proxy guard army and I'm worried that without a paper with images printed correlating to what the proxies are that people are going to refuse games or even with the papers pretend to be dumb deliberately.

>>95979508
Nostalgia, included in the box, better melee, save leadership and an extra wound.

>>95979508
The Runtherd isn't a character right, so you can't snipe down unit sergeants with precision.

>>95979495
Not unless they start doing the same artifical limitation bullshit nintendo does to encourange it, and in a market where people actually use the products they buy it would probably make GW less money.

What's the most obvious "this is only here because we had to include it" rule inclusion in your army's Codex?

>>95979563
Can you include an example of such a rule?

>>95979229
Still can't refute my claim that your whole faction is nothing but a narrative speedbump.
>>95979233
I dont even play Chaos lmao.

>>95977448
Marines were always meant to be a mish mash of armor marks and weapons because they are 10K old warrior monk organizations in a dying empire who salvage and re-use what they can and its literally stated that nothing in the Imperium is standard issue with everything being variants that are different from planet to planet.

>>95979563
Sisters of Silence detachment in the Custodes codex.
The entirety of the Imperial Agents codex.

>>95979587
>I dont even play
noone was implying otherwise

>>95977555
The 3 super factions would be Imperium, Chaos and Xenos.

>>95977555
>>95979598
>Imperium
>Chaos
>Primal (Orks riding Nids)
>Necrons
Tau and all flavors of Eldar would be wiped out and removed.

>>95979621
To be more specific we would get
>Imperium
Space Marines
Talons of the Emperor (Imperial Agents and Custodes)
Imperial Guard
Sisters of Battle
Ad Mech (Now featuring Knights)
>Chaos
CSM
Cult Legion w/ their respective Daemons
Chaos Knights
>Primal
Greenskinz
Grotz
Tyranids
Snaggas
>Necrons
Triarch Court
Storm Court
Flayer Court
Pariah Court

>>95979589
That never made any sense because all space marines, or at least most, have contracts and agreements with mechanicus forgeworld to supply them with regular war material.
And this also includes power armor as well. It'd be very inefficient and dumb for mechanicus to make like 10 full set of 3 different armor patterns when they can and would just make 30 armors of 1 pattern.
Also marines have forges where they can spare parts and pieces for their armors so making hodge podge of armor combinations makes no sense.
Nevermind the fact it is canon in the fluff that trying to "marry" 2 or more different power armor patters into one suit rarely works because the machine spirits don't like melding together at all.

>>95979645
>never made any sense
>very inefficient and dumb
>makes no sense
Bro, your newfag is showing.

>>95979621
>>95979644
Nice try necronfag

>>95979674
If we're thinking of this along the lines of AoS rules applied to 40k, there literally isn't a place for Eldar and Tau any more since the Imperium doesn't work with them. Meanwhile the Necrons still work as the Death expy especially now that Imotekh and Szarekh are hashing it out.

how long doe sit take MI to finish an order? it's been 3 weeks and if I don't get a tracking number next week Imma bother them.

hi anons
Are archons supposed to be such small models? I can hardly even kitbash with how tiny the base is.

>>95979645
Forgeworlds are also busy supplying other chapters and the nigh infinite armies of other imperium organizations+their own gear. Certain chapters also prefer certain armor marks like how raven guard like the corvus armor marks and artificer armor is a thing so yes space marines combine armor marks because even making 1 suit of powered armor is a difficult task and you have to arm 1000 marines.

Theres not also not always replacements at the ready.

>>95979698
She's good, just give them time. Occasionally I've had things show up before I even received a tracking number

>>95979760
If you wanted big chunky models then you picked the wrong army

>>95979785
I don't want them big and chunky, I wanted slaves covered in wounds to be at the Archon's feet, but that's gonna be tough.

>>95979796
Replace the tactical rock with a pile of slaves and you'll be able to fit at least a couple

Wraithblades are so cool

>>95979598
>Xenos
>Eldar, Orks, Necrons, Tau, and Tyranids fighting side by side
This is such a retarded thought I can't even get myself to believe you aren't just trolling.

>>95978689
>Like do people forget that the Emperor lives off of extremely brutal and horrific human sacrifice that is done everyday?
Those are necessary sacrifices for the survival of Humanity. That's where "grimdark" comes from - when even the good guys have to do evil shit out of necessity.

They're still good, because their enemies do that evil shit because they like it.

Building a model and im noticing the piece i gotta use got pretty damaged, I guess its from shipping or such.

Do you guys think this other piece will fit well without any gaps or such? I dont have many other chest pieces left.

Ah fucks sake I cant even use this one cause I need it for the other model.

>>95979511
Hm, maybe disappointment is more accurate. Thanks.

What proxies are you working on? Why would the papers be nescessary?

>>95979970
Those are the old CSM legionnaires, right? I would expect all the chest pieces to be interchangeable if so. Never put them together myself but that's just how they made the kits at that time.

>>95980008
They dont look to be interchangeable. I have 5 chest pieces left. 2 of those wont fit without cutting cause they have the front tabard thing. And I only have these 3 left as "small" ones. 96 I have to use but its damaged. 46 is necessary for the last model in the kit, adn the one at the bottom has a big hole if I were to put it on this model.

I just decided to cut away the front part of the damaged piece and Ill try to glue a skull onto that spot.

>>95979988
Just an anvilindustry supplied army. They’ve got heavy weapons and commissar and and an enginseer proxy. Looking at parts to make a castellan but maybe not as I want to play previous editions of 40k.

>>95977207
As anon said there's snippets
They're very human like, unsurprisingly

>>95979988
>>95980031
>Why would the papers be nescessary?
To make it easier for my opponent to keep track of my units they are proxying as and for me as well just in case.

>>95980044
Nta but
I think you’re being really considerate for yourself and your opponent with papers for tracking what the proxies represent. Most proxy users won’t do that and expect you to memorize.
If someone is confused still if the papers are good then he’s either retarded or pretending to be retarded which is still retarded.

Other GW games get their rulebooks scanned. This one, by far the most popular game, not so much.

>>95980023
>>95979970
Fits well enough I suppose. The skull juts out a bit much but I think its fine.

Are flamer barrels "drillable"? Should I just make a round hole or some sort of oval thing or leave it?

>>95980151
They are drillable is just recommend drilling a larger hole than normal. Be careful to check to make sure that the hole is centered.

>>95980151
people still drill them gently

>>95980170
I'll drill you gently, boyo.

>>95977803
>EC
>Fulgrim is dogshit for a Primarch
>Lucius is strong but offers literally nothing to the army aside from being Lucius

>>95979851
One of the very few gaydar models I like, yes they are cool

>>95980170
>>95980168
This good, or should I go up another size?

>>95979851
So are the Wraithguard, I don't collect Eldar but these are so nice I might buy a kit one day just to paint them for display

I fucking hate nidders

>>95980216
That's fine. Remember that flame throwers work by shooting a pressurized stream of flammable which gets ignited as it leaves the barrel/nozzle.

Also, if I wanted to ink panel lines, what would work best between black contrast or nuln oil?

>>95980233
>Also, if I wanted to ink panel lines, what would work best between black contrast or nuln oil?
Unthinned contrast will be a stronger black so if you want it pronounced go with that. You could just get an enamel panel liner or make an oil wash yourself. A lot more comfortable to work with than applying contrast/wash by brush directly into the panel lines

>>95980226
Why

>>95979072
He just told you the reality and the source for it. You are insisting upon your headcanon that directly contradicts a book and then you are ironically calling the people who correct and citing official books as the ones with headcanon. There's always shitstains like you in every lore discussion and it's a detriment to the hobby. You are wrong and you are spreading misinformation and you're a hypocrite while doing it.

>>95980233
Black contrast is really strongly pigmented so you'd need to be pretty precise if you wanted to use it neat

>>95980265
They're dumb ugly bugs with dumb ugly players

new one
>>95980313
>>95980313
>>95980313

>>95978689
This is true. A large portion of the imperium, including a large portion of those in power, are cunts. But because a large portion of the imperium is also just regular Joe's who want to survive, they're still the protagonists and still the faction we root for, despite the fact that they're not squeaky clean good guys.

There are lots of good guys within the imperium, which is something the drimderpers like to forget. The organization as a whole is brutal and inhuman and carious other negative traits, but what you're fighting for is the average Joe who just wants to raise a family, just like real life.

>>95978933
>>95979011
This is only half true. The reason the imperium is brutal to it's own citizens is because of how chaos attacks them. It tries to lie to them and seduce them, and if you are lenient on your enemies, chaos takes advantage by slithering into the space you leave it through your leniency. The imperium has taken lessons from how chaos attacks it, and their treatment of people is a response. Trying to put the chicken before the egg by claiming chaos thrives due to how the imperium acts is backwards. Chaos is the original aggressor that started the imperium down this path and the imperium is the way it is because of chaos.

>>95978944
This is false. The emperor sheparding souls who are worthy is canon and has been for a while.

>>95978964
>>95978977
These are true.

>>95978053
>Created fucking orks
>good guys
Green thirdie hands typed this post

My WE army is almost ready to be used. I can finish perfecting it as I go. Until then I have two questions to ask.
Do I obtain a Fafnir Rann to convert into a second MoE
Do I obtain a sigmar model for the same purpose
Or do I buy an obscenely priced 70 dollar sigmar ork boss as a makeshift slaughterbound?
Alternatively. Are there any decent SB 3d prints yet?

>>95977506
I hate this shit and just looks bad.

had the "delight" of playing against the new space wolfes.

compared to other marines, how did they manage to make them faster, stronger in melee, a bit better in firepower and a bit tougher than the rest while still being cheaper than everything else?

the abundance of damage 3 weapons in melee is ridiculous, you can clearly see that phil kelly goes on with his bias while rule writing for his own army.

>>95977211
52 Miniatures on YouTube made Fabius black because he said only white people talk about being perfect and genociding others LOL https://youtu.be/zGRRuJv5Hac

>>95978036
His younger more radical version with the mohawk and twin claws from Medusa campaign was better.