Thread 95986063

Scylla Light Tank Edition

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>>Previous thread:
>>95980313

>Thread Question:
What conversions do you believe should be canon if they are not or receive more attention?

>>95986063 (OP)
I have no idea what this thread question is trying to ask. All conversions are canon.

>>95986063 (OP)
>TQ
Every ork looted vehicle conversion must be canon.
Also that tank is cute in the OP pic.

>>95986063 (OP)
>>Thread Question:
>What conversions do you believe should be canon if they are not or receive more attention?
Aspect wraithlords definitely.

>>95986063 (OP)
>Scylla Light Tank
I love tiny tanks
giver me more tiny tanks
give me GSC tiny tanks

Is Graham McNeill a good writer? I wanna read the Ultramarines novels but I want to know if they're worth buying.

airborne guard best guard, perhaps? Second at least. tank guard is probably best guard.

>>95986089
Nta
Yarrick has a better model is important, but let's compare the characters.

Yarrick is a commissar that's really good at fighting the orks on armageddon, he came back from retirement multiple times to fight against gazkull. He got his arm cut off, killed the ork that did it and then had that ork's power klaw grafted as a new arm.

Ursulla Creed is Creed but female, there was Creed, now there is his daughter.
GW clearly stated that she somehow EARNED the title of Lord Castellan. The first time you see her, taking the spot of an existing character, she's supposed to be that good.

You got a character with history and that actually did cool shit, and then you have the "female character taking exisitng male character's spot".
Normally I'd say the sex of a character is irrelevant, but here it's THE POINT that she's a girl.

It's such a bad character on every level, or rather, she's not a good character on any level.

>>95986063 (OP)
>>Thread Question:
>What conversions do you believe should be canon if they are not or receive more attention?
Land Raider Prometheus. The quad heavy bolters are just metal as fuck!

>>95986186
Thank you anon. I get it now, and I can't believe I didn't understand why before.

>>95986063 (OP)
>TQ
Dark Eldar Castigator Wraithguard from their old book lore

One unit on the table top essentially becomes John Wick and can solo the entire enemy army? Bonus points if the unit is small.

>>95986199
It should have been Lord General Castor.

>>95986102
Mekrig

>>95986063 (OP)
>Thread Question:
>What conversions do you believe should be canon if they are not or receive more attention?
I think all conversions should get more attention, but I have no idea why you'd need them to be canonized

>>95986210
>new unit
I am interested, QRD?
Bonus point for profile as pic

>>95986230
Rotated

>>95986230
Please post a better and not sideways pic of the rig, it looks fucking cool

What else are Templarchuds getting this week? I feel like there's going to be one more reveal.

Here's my proxy Helbrecht. He's magnetized to the larger base so I can also use him as a normal Marshal/Castellan.

>>95986235
>but I have no idea why you'd need them to be canonized
Because /mydudes/ are better than /yourdudes/ and therefore /mydudes/ deserve to be made canon by big daddy GW.

>>95986224
That's what they did with gotrek in aos and it was really fluffy and cool at first, but over time became too good for beginners to deal with and too expensive for comp players to run.

>>95986238
Dark Eldar don't really have a big tough melee unit like the Craftworlds do with Wraithguard/blades.
Spoilers for the end of the Path of the Dark Eldar trilogy but Vect has an army of Wraithguard converted to run on trapped and tormented souls like a pain engine rather than hosting a fallen hero.

>>95986263
But if they get canonized then they aren't /yourdudes/ anymore and then someone else will start writing lore for them who has different ideas than you have for them.

>>95986288
Pretty cool, I wonder what they'd look like, deldar wraiths...

>>95986299
I'd imagine like that image. Like a wraith, with spikes

>>95986290
But I get big bragging points that /mydudes/ were so good that big corporation made them canon to validate me.

>>95986290
>>95986307
Pretty much

My submission to vehicle of the month. Sororitas Rhino that converts into Castigator we have at home.

>>95986279
The issue with Gotrek was that he was basically unkillable by any center piece monster in the game, but his weakness was that he is incredibly slow and can't get teleported or sped up by anything.

The guy gets a grand total of 20" of movement in a 5 turn game, not including running or charging.

He's still in AoS but got tuned down a bit, and costs appropriately less as well. Now he's just really strong instead of stupidly strong

>>95986063 (OP)
>TQ
Wraithknights/wraithlords with aspects weapons

Is Bela Core's shadow legion supposed to have its own color scheme? Does anyone give a fuck?

What IG regiment do you want see models for but you know it will never happen? For me it's the Savlar Chem-Dogs. I like that kit-bashes I've seen with GSC but that's just too much money for me to spend.

>>95986380
They're just WB

>>95986380
I have no clue what that even is.

>>95986380
>Does anyone give a fuck?
No.

>>95986380
>>95986387
>>95986390

>>95986383
I'm torn, because while I want to see new models I don't trust GW to do them justice

But in an ideal world I'd say praetorians or firstborns

>>95986383
Vostroyans in plastic

>>95986380
You could use House Korvax's paint scheme and apply it to CSM. Not the most exciting to look at, but it should be simple to execute across any army.

>>95986261
>What else are Templarchuds getting this week?
Don't get your hopes up. You'll get a new combat patrol on top of the stuff that's already been shown.
Cool mini too, anon.

>>95986158
>airborne guard
>posts Imperial Navy
Huh?

>>95986335
Boy is that garish but in a kinda cool way. I don't hate using the heresy dg theme with the contrast cranked up for imperials

>>95986450
Clean the landing zone prior to drop

>>95986383
It'd be dope as fuck if they just released a huge line of customization sprues of various existing regiments and random stuff so people could make whatever regiment they wanted. But alas, that's too fun.

Eldar women are literally built for sex with Primarchs

>>95986186
imo, Ursula Creed being a CREED does all the heavy lifting for her status. It's like how we voted for two Bushes just because people remembered the first Bush and was like "hey this guy is also a Bush maybe he's just like the first one". This doesn't mean that her lore is anywhere near good, it's just that people will see her last name and go "Oh like other creed she must be as good".

2v2 3k game, Orks+votann vs DA+custodes. Made things broken by combining detachments. Taktikal plus hearthband for xenos, stormlance+lions for imperium.

>>95986492
Extremely close game, went back and forth a few times. It all came down to the final round where we barely killed enough units to deny them the kill more points.

>>95986288
>Run on trapped and tormented souls
So they're a Writheguard instead of a Wraithguard. I like that

collage when

>>95986526
>writheguard
kek

>>95986186
It helps a lot that the model for Yarrick is much more iconic even if it's ugly. His iconic claw gives him a very unique silhouette that Ursula lacks. Look at the poses between the two, notice how more active Yarrick's pose is than Ursula's. A fighting leader is more inspiring than one standing around confused

>>95986168
Apparently they canonised blanche's idea that the skeleton visible in all these artworks is just a facade and that the real emperor is only accessible via a secret passage by custodians.

>>95986288
Why call them wraith-things if they're better described as pain engines?

>>95986555
Don't forget he got multiple models over the years, complimenting his existing presence.

On a side but related note I find that newer (it's been more than a decade now) models from GW just suck personality wise.
They're often too subdued or just generic/empty; I don't care for the Nth action pose, the model should tell a story of "who is this guy"
The new space wolves are just meh for instance

>>95986168
ENTER

>>95986601
For example I do not hate this model.
But the fucker just feels like someone in twitter pointing out at the blood and say how cool of a reference that is!

>>95986601
Post your 2nd edition models fakegrog

>>95986653
2nd edition wasn't 10 years ago anon

>>95986630
Look at him, he's strong, confident and commanding, because he is a commander, wow, such commanding, much confidence

>>95986611
bitch

>>95986653
You do know the good editions lasted more than a decade.
It was not 2nd by the way.

>>95986611
I like this one because it's very uniquely pitiable. It doesn't inspire any awe like most pictures of Emps, he just looks pathetic and sad. It's a nice contrast.

>>95986630
>>95986685
wasn't there a huge controversy over that limited release model because stores got maybe 1 or 2 of them and that was it?

Decided to make a Space Wolf Leman Russ Exterminator for use in 3rd/4th edition games, still fairly early WIP but it's coming along nicely.

>>95986714
I have no idea, I don't keep up with the fomo bullshit
>>95986708
>picrel
Sending the emperor back... To zero
07
FUCK PATRIOTS FOXDIE FLASHBACK RRRRRGGGGHHHH

>>95986714
No idea, I get my models from chang. At least my characters.
Not going to pay more than $10 for single character.

>>95986734
Very cool my dude

>>95986708
the iv bag is kind of fucking silly

>>95986745
Thank you, you just bought the PLA expeditionary force heading for Taiwan another Drone!

>>95986577
Source?

>>95986788
Meh. China can bomb taiwan, but they can't invade it.
We all know that west taiwan can't swim so they wont dare an invasion.

>>95986791
trust me bro

>>95986788
yes

>>95986788
Wtf I love recasters now

So technically speaking, the Plague Wars haven't happened yet, right?
Like, Guilliman goes from the Pariah Nexus to Ultramar to fight the Death Guard there and that's when it happens?

>>95986791
the new hh book, the very last short story, so I'm told, unless you're talking about when/where blanche said that, I think it was a youtube interview shortly after his retirement, shouldn't be hard to find.
in that same interview he also said he made up the black templars because the ideal marines have to wear black armor.

>Doesn't close
>Mandatory rocks underneath
>Inside looks almost barren
>No attached stormbolter
>Thickest mold lines you've ever seen
Could GW have made it as cool as the old one without making it as hellish to assemble?

>>95986827
I think yes. Maybe. No. Unless...?

>>95986653
Obvious shit stirring attempt aside.
What makes someone a fake grog versus someone who just prefers older stuff?

We've already established that there is a collective of anons who lose their shit at the mention of the word firstborn like how there are those who get angry at seeing primaris marines. So is this visceral reaction in the same vein when people talk about preferring older stuff?

>>95986834
>Could GW have made it as cool as the old one without making it as hellish to assemble?
no

>>95986834
>>Mandatory rocks underneath
I thought they said they were optional

>>95986840
ignore the shitstirrer

>>95986837
>What makes someone a fake grog versus someone who just prefers older stuff?
Anon's desire to shitpost and assign faults via inflammatory labels.

>>95986834
>Doesn't close
Valid complaint for storage, invalid for actual use
>Mandatory rocks
They fucking said the rocks are optional decorations
>No bolter
Dogshit plinker that provided no actual fire support
>Thickest moldlines
??? Are you just talking out your ass now???

>>95986837
Seething at the knowledge that they where born at wrong the time.

Why are we talking about obscure models like drop pods so often?1

>>95986840
>>95986847
Some of the rocks are optional. The ones directly under the pod are not.

>>95986859
>obscure
>drop pod
(you)

>>95986834
it seems they made it emptier and thicker instead of making it actually larger to house the biggermarines

>no rules for the tidepod yet
it's dead

>>95986870
Are you saying the crap I made as a kid is better than the one made by an international company?

>>95986881
no

>>95986870
I'm sensing a pattern. One of many that I'm not happy about.

>>95986834
I remember the day it was revealed we had people defending the new design by saying the old one was difficult to build

Idk, maybe fix the issues while keeping the functionality? Impossible, more money to gw, maybe if we shovel enough money we can pretend our father loved us

>>95986899
Wait a second, there's nothing to cover that in the kit?

>>95986907
yeah you love the old one so much that's why you never bought one in the 17 years it was available
you're not subtle lmao

>>95986906
>turns off your lights
>locks your doors
>reorganizes your paint drawer to be more efficient

>>95986863
>some of the rocks are optional
Oh so they lied, great, it's somehow worse than I thought

>>95986899
Who cropped my screencap

>>95986899
what did older tanks look like from underneath?

>>95986899
The dorn's bottom is such a fucking nothingburger. Does anyone even paint the bottom of their leman russes or rhinos or repulsors?

>>95986913
You didn't buy the new ones fake nufan

>>95986920
because I already have three of the current kit

>>95986918
Bottom and interior then glued shut

>>95986892
Considering it was made with cardboard and it can open when it drops.
Something the newer pod can't do...

>>95986907
I mean, the new one looks fine. Ease of building is probably the top priority they had when designing it. But like many model refreshes that GW has come out with in the past few years, it's just a worse version of an older kit with a few positives to its name. And most of the time the one positive is that it's scaled better.

>>95986734
Isn't this the insane cheese unit people dreaded in 3rd. I remember reading about something with space wolf tanks being fucked up in earlier editions

>>95986918
Because God forbid I use these tanks as flipped and ruined terrains.

>>95986924
>man this kit sucked
>I bought three
>the new one is better
>nah I'm not buying them

>>95986939
why would I buy more than I can field you fucking retard

>>95986853
Not the anon but...
>invalid for actual use
It's a problem for actual use because the tables are small and the terrain is cluttered for the most part. How the hell are you going to deepstrike it if you don't have the space to place it down? Same issue with other big ass models.
>They fucking said the rocks are optional decorations
He's referring to the rocks directly attached to the drop pod's base, which can't be removed.
>Talking out of your ass now???
No, he's talking about pic related. Each of the fins have very ugly moldlines

>>95986924
>no picture
no you don't

>>95986941
>let me praise a product I don't buy
>no you can't shit on a product you don't buy!
>I didn't buy it either
>retard

>>95986837
Grogs were around for the early editions they grog out about.
Fakegrogs are zoomers who were not even alive for 2nd and were in diapers during 4th

>>95986935
yeah you're definitely buying hundred dollar tank kits to use as terrain lmao
>>95986942
You really think those are bad mouldlines? The ones on flat featureless areas?

>>95986918
This is a result of modern 40k, not being a wargame.
Older editions when a tank got destroyed it would leave a wreck.
So you put some cotton on it or put it upside down.

>>95986918
Paint the inside too

>>95986944
cope
>>95986945
I praise what is a clear upgrade, you seethe about something you never wanted to own in the first place
we are not the same

>>95986837
A fake grog would be someone pretending to be a grog, but who isn't, hence "fake"

There are no fake grogs, it's a way to deflect criticism, implying that anyone who likes old stuff is lying, nobody actually likes old stuff, the new stuff is always better.

It's also a way for the person to avoid being looked at:
>this person is a liar, don't look at me!

>>95986960
>unpainted
yikes

>>95986966
(you) tried

>>95986960
how is it an upgrade if the rules they have said so far mean the total footprint is where models disembark from?
it lost a weapon, which was shitty but still a weapon is better than no weapon, and the footprint is now smaller so your movement is shorter
unless the new rule sheet has an enormous buff for the carry capacity and point cost, it's just worse

All I remember about the old drop-pod kit is how easily it became useless if you slightly messed up the gluing of the individual pieces and how if you didn't use enough glue it'd tear itself apart

>>95986960
>a clear upgrade
The only thing clear is those boxes letting us see you didn't even fucking paint them

You bought three fucking kits you dislike
You shouldn't tell people what to do or think, your judgement is decisively poor

>>95986976
>how is it an upgrade
because it doesn't make you suicidal to assemble
are you stupid?
>>95986980
My pristine judgement matters more than a subhuman nomodels crying about a kit they were never going to buy in the first place

>>95986947
>yeah you're definitely buying hundred dollar tank kits to use as terrain lmao
You're retarded

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>95986985
>only caring about the assembly
so no games then

>>95986988
How fucked will the new models be in the name of making them easy to assemble?

>>95986979
>This resin kit is a pain to assemble
>shut up hobbylet
>this old kit had cool functions
>fake grog, it was a pain to assemble

It's stupid

I’m starting to think warhammer 40K lacks hype moments and aura

>>95986989
their current rules suck, all of 10e sucks but they're nearly unusable on any board layout, even without factoring in an enemy spacing their units in a way to prevent you placing it on the board with its restrictions

>>95986947
>You really think those are bad mouldlines? The ones on flat featureless areas?
Retard, those are the definitive parts of the Drop Pod; the part that give the thing its iconic design. They're on EVERY SINGLE FIN and you gotta remove them; very new kit mind you

>>95986985
>it's a clear upgrade
>no I'm not buying it
>oh you didn't buy it? You can't say anything good about it
Are you 5?

>>95986863
>door is cut in the middle of it instead of making the door a separate part
>sprues look like their chinese manufacturing facilities and not their UK facilities
>greatly simplified design
>90 us dollars plus tax and tip
lol

lmao even

>>95986991
The existing models aren't especially horrible to assemble. They're just fragile as all hell. The vehicles all have some minor gaps though when you fit them together which are slightly annoying.

My 12 starter sets arriving july 8th.
>87 dollars a pop
>I'm gonna conveeeeeert

>>95987003
keep seething secondary

>>95987013
Are you genuinely that mad? It's okay man, we all think you're a stupid hypocritical faggot, nothing wrong with that

>>95987009
What the Kentucky Fried Fuck could you possibly need 12 of these for?

>>95986997
Aura reduction was a stated goal of 10th edition

>>95987001
okay, but now it is less usable, barring a massive rule change and we don't know that yet

>>95987019
>n-no YOU'RE mad
embarrassing, try harder next time secondary

>>95987024
With how often he posts about it I'm fairly sure he does it for (You)s

>>95987027
It'll be easier to use even with the current rules, the new doors are shorter so the footprint is smaller

Do you paint your dudes with codex prescribed livery or do you make up your own?

>>95987034
small footprints are actually bad for transports, unironically
since drop pods don't have assault ramps, you are not dropping them into the thick of it, so you ideally want to drop them away from combat and then advance them into the enemy

>>95986939
>>95986980
He probably bought them before the new ones got revealed

>>95986960
>no timestamp
not yours

>>95987046
Sure, but you can't fucking fit the current drop pod anywhere, even before factoring in the 9 inch restriction for any enemy units

>>95986863
>>95987004
The reason why the doors aren't separate parts is because GW would then need to make another sprue for the kit. And more sprues a kit contains, bigger the box for it needs to be.
And bigger the box, less kits can fit on a palette which means less individual kits can fit inside a shipping container. Which means GW needs to get more shipping containers which cost money, which means less profit for GW.

This is just standard multi-billion dollar corporation jewery. Nothing more.

>>95987028
If I pretend to be mad will you be less of a faggot in the future and stop posting your retarded opinion on 4chan? Would you do that for me?

>>95987072
>PLEASE just stop proving me wrong every time PLEASE go awayyy
lmao

>>95987048
I don't really care, anon said that you need to own the model to praise it, yet he's praising a model he has no intention of owning, so I'm just enjoying the moment

>>95987081
No, I pointed out you have nearly 20 years to buy it yet for some reason never did

>>95987081
>>95987085
You're both shitposters, shut the fuck up already

>>95987079
I think you'd feel better if you painted something anon, could be those 3 drop pods you hate?
Or you could buy some of those new drop pods, maybe having 6 unpainted drop pods would make you feel better?

>>95987095
>nomodels slinks back and seethes again
lmao, adorable

>>95987097
You guys think there's more than one person saying /v/ermin unironically or is all the same faggot? It's such a fucking cringe word lmao

>>95986988
Dark eldar more like fart smelldar lmaooo

>>95986830
>unless you're talking about when/where blanche said that, I think it was a youtube interview shortly after his retirement
He also said it on Voxcast too, which is an official GW run podcast so lends even more authority to the idea.

The Emperor is apparently in pieces floating in a jar somewhere, the one on the false throne is for propaganda purposes.

>>95987103
looks like another /v/ermin's upset

>>95987103
It's at least mostly the same faggot, but I suspect they're part of the tranny discord that raids us sometimes and coordinates their shitposting.

>>95987032
Just excited for my big purchase.
>>95987024
I have plans, since I like to convert stuff. Sort of like pic related. I already have the PVC pipe and heat gun to angle/reset the tube. I just need to bed some rebar to curve sections little my little and pull the rebar out and heat up the next part while clamping it tighter and tighter towards the tail and when it meets the base I can use other stuff to finish the snake tail.

Among many other conversions. 5 of the primes become hyper adapted raveners. 15 of the leftover 18 ryans leapers will become raveners. 120hormagaunts/120 termagaunts

I'll be updating as I did with my spider tyranids. Which are getting close to being fully assembled. Genestealers are time consuming!

>>95987085
Because I don't play drop pods and now I never will
But yeah, I guess for someone who impulse buys models he hates assembling it's okay to buy every single kit you might want in the future, that way I'd be allowed to praise the kit for being better by virtue of owning it.

You think owing the model gives value to your opinion because that's all you have, spending money to pretend you matter.

Maybe if you were less mad on the internet you'd take a second to step back and realize why you're just advocating for both worse models in a hobby and for predatory anti-consumer practices, just so you can feel better about owning 3 models you didn't even bother to paint.

VULKAN

>>95987121
a lot of words to say you're seething over being dismissed as the nomodels you are

>>95987123
LIFTS

>>95987002
Nta but that's the best place for mouldlines because they're easily accessible and also easy to see so you don't miss them. I'd rather have a mouldline on the center of a panel than around the edge where it's easier to gouge

>>95986988
Exodites soon

I like the new drop pods but I won't buy them because I don't play Space Marines

>>95987118
Spider nids are coming along but no new pics, nothing to truly update on. I'm at 14 of the 30 genestealers which I've decided to use superglue+plain bath tissue to get their webbing harness down so I'll update once I finish all 30 in assembly and start on the web part.
>human corpses tethered to their bodies so they have dead 'scarecrows' while the spiders scream barely passable "Help me!"

>>95987135
very based

>>95987002
They're right there on the current kit too
It's the only logical place for a mouldline on a two part injection mould for a shape like that, you dumbass

>>95987097
I haven't bothered to see what this argument is over but I don't think it's unreasonable for people to ask you to prove you care about something you say you care about

>>95987134
Soon

>>95987136
I realized this turned into a genestealer post. Imagine these guys but with webbing holding the torsos in place.

>>95987131
While I agree, the obviously bad moldline this early in the kit's lifespan is only going to get worse over time. This thing is gonna age like exposed fruit in a trash can.

>>95987147
>>95986988
Man where are all these goodwin sketches coming from? I don't know if I've seen these ones before.

>>95987121
Devils advocate. You can hate the process of building a kit but still enjoy the aesthetics enough to commit to it.

>>95987156
Somebody dropped a pdf of the goodwyn sketches book recently, but some of those sketches are just floating on the internet

>>95987161
I have the Gothic and the Eldritch book but that doesn't have everything in it, it's very old

Isn't it ironic how the people excited for the new drop pod kits are model owners and the ones who're angry never have any?

>>95987152
It's about as bad as a second run on a starter box it's not too rough honestly. Seems like a chunky enough mould that it'll take a while to start slipping too. I also can't see tonnes of players picking them up, they've always been a somewhat niche thing that you either love and have a pile of them or you're not into and use your points for other stuff you like

>>95986930

Tanks being good in early edition is a joke. They died to 1 melta, or got grounded on the first piece of terrain they ran over.

>>95987170
Replace the word "drop pod" with "marine unit" and 95% of the time it's still true

>>95987157
That's fine, but that's not what's going on.

Anon thinks not owing the model means you can't praise it, yet praises a model he doesn't own.
It's a typical thing to do: instead of attacking the point/logic you attack the person.

>I think tobacco is bad and shouldn't be sold
>you never smoked, you don't know what you're talking about

>My dad had a car that didn't break down as much as the new ones seem to do
>you didn't buy an old car, so you can't say they're better

But the hypocrisy was pointed out half a thread ago

>>95987170
Who's excited for the new one?
Also I have space marines and I don't like the new one.

Something's funny alright

>>95987191
You know what you can do? Ignore the shitstirring faggot, he always posts the same shit so it's not like he's hard to spot

>>95987177
I thought there was some tank list specifically for space wolves that was really gross, I swear I read something about it but maybe I'm going insane

>>95987201
>Who's excited for the new one?
this dude >>95986960
orange and tealfag was posting about the new ones when 4chan died while owning several current pods too

>>95987170
I play space marines and I have zero excitement over this kit
we need good transport options, but this won't be the one
hard to beat impulsors, but those can only do MSU

>>95987202
I just have the bad habit of wanting to see how far the rabbit hole goes man, I have to see how high the bullshit stacks up

>>95987177
Not exactly true, but things with AV 12 or less spent most of the game without shooting though once they enter within weapons range of the enemy.

>>95987202
>/v/ermin telling other /v/ermin not to engage with modelposters
lmao

>>95987177
That depends. Eldar Tanks were busted and guard leafblower lists were super strong.

>>95987210
>this dude
He said he's not buying it because he has 3 of the old ones

>>95987221
>3 unpainted drop pods
>modelposting
lol, lmao even

>>95987236
Better than your no models lmao

Gun to your nuts, GW demands you come up with a diorama style epic unit for your army (diorama style as in something like triumph where it covers the whole base or the vast majority of the base). What do you design?

>>95987218
>19kb

I don't have models but I also don't talk in this thread other than to shitpost how much i'd like certain models and aesthetics.

>>95987246
picrel, limited edition

>>95987236
>/v/ermin shifts goalposts when BTFO'd
tale as old as time

>>95987246
breaching diorama of my donut steel chapter blowing doors down during a boarding action

>>95987097
Can someone explain to me the "logic" behind getting angry at anyone that seems to prefer older editions and models that prompts what the meme highlights such a hostile reaction?

>>95987248
CTRL + (times X)

>>95987255
just like you always do when someone actually replies to you with models :^)

what's really hilarious here is nomodels and graytide models are both less than decalfag and that's as much compliment as I'll ever give that guy

Last chance to submit your vehicle to the collage and to vote for next months theme. You can submit your vehicles as a reply to this post. Here is the link to the vote https://strawpoll.com/bVg8Bm591yY
>>95986529
I'll start making the collage tomorrow. I wanna give the guys on the finishing line every chance they need.

>>95987270
>n-no u
>again

>>95987191
Does this interesting fallacy have a term for it?

>>95987246
The Court Of The First King
Eldanesh resurrected with a cadre of Exarchs surrounding him. Said Exarchs can actually be swapped and customized to provide different abilities and weapons to the unit.

>>95987060
since when have GW boxes actually been filled all the way with sprues?

>other manufacturers: 16 dollars for a 10 sprue kit
>gw: 90 dollars for four sprues

>>95987270
If someone demands that you post models without a timestamped model or in the middle of an argument then it is clearly a miserable troll trying to exercise a modicum of control over someone as compensation for bad irl stuff behind the screen.
Just ignore and let them seethe in silence or gaslight themselves into thinking they've won.

>>95987309
you're replying to the one who did that though >>95986944

>>95987320
>everyone replying to me is the same person

>>95987325
You're very obvious.

>>95987277
This will not help the thread return to calmness

>>95987265
I think it's an ego issue, maybe they take it personally if someone thinks differently.

>A is better
>I think B is better
>no, you're a liar and you're not a real fan, copenhagen + feed & sneed

Maybe that's why they make it into a personal battle and not about the matter at hands.
I've seen people try to lay down the facts but it always diverts to attacking the credibility and not the point.
You could say the most prodound and just statement in the history of man and they'd still reply that you haven't posted your models, which equates to not having models.

That itself might be a hint to the deeper logic, because they seem to want to "dictate the rules": you have to engage them on their front, and their front isn't factual.

much texto señor

>>95987309
adding rules doesnt stop a generic troll-only poster that wants to just bother people

you just act like they did nothing wrong and ignore them, let them fester being less than effective, it's what I do

>posts something about me
>I just @ them and respond as if they said something else and ignore their goal

>>95987246
Daemonculaba. It would work like a super apothecary and letting you resurrect some dead models every turn.

>>95987285
Probably, maybe it's just the true scotsman one? A form of "argument by authority"?

I'm curious too now

>>95987320
If true then my bad. I've just seen this pattern repeat itself and it is obviously done by one or a group of miserables behind the screen.

>>95987278
How many collage members so far?

>>95987330
I know

>>95987246
Easy. New Dais of Destruction

>>95987277
Any why would you not extend other compliments my way? What have I done specifically to you that causes you angst?

>>95987333
All nerd hobbies have these personalities. They seem to attract people that need to have the biggest nerd dick in the room and need everyone to acknowledge it. You see the same behaviour whether it's about lore, models, gameplay or whatever.

>>95987361
unfathomely based
Better have pleasure slaves on my dark elf evil super lord's fancy boat

>>95987367
you never had the makings of a varsity painter

>>95987370
>bloodgore gud
>penisweewee pleasure bad
marketed to 14 year olds parents

>>95987278
>>95986335

>>95987333
>much texto señor
I read the whole thing and you put it quite beautifully.

>>95987373
Oh son of a bitch!

>>95987246
The destruction of Llandugor the flayer during the battle of Sokar Gate

>>95987382
is this a joke like limga or sucondeez cause those names are fucking ass dude

>>95987348
I haven't double checked last weeks threads in the archive yet but I think we have about 15ish. Decent number for our first month. I hope more people feel like joining the coming month, it's looking like elite squads might win.
>>95986335
Very nice.

>>95987387
It's the location where the final c'tan was defeated iirc

>>95987387
Sokar my dick.

>>95987387
Llandugor was the original Flayer C'tan. His death cursed the entire Necron race, hence why most other C'tan were fractured instead of killed.

>>95987374
I want to understand that one day, maybe it's related to the shame of sexual things, even in non-sexual contexts.

Who knows, not me yet
>>95987377
Thank you good sir, thank you

>>95987387
Meagan Madiq Bebrownigan is my personal fave

>>95987246
>gun to you nuts
uuuuuhhhhh
maybe pic related but with the modern Cadian design?
It is a soldier at ease so it counts as a diorama right?

>>95987409
it's because children who do not understand quite what sex is might become targeted by sexual predators accute to finding such vulnerable individuals

>>95987416
>it counts as a diorama right?

>>95987246
A Sanguinor that doesn't suck balls, based somewhat on this artwork.

>>95987397
Not the anon, but remember Sa'kan from Pariah Nexus?
A lot of "Sa'kan deez nuts" jokes were made.
Pic related is from the guy who made the face model for him and this is a version of his face if he wasn't a Salamander.

>>95987425
>get shot in the face to death according to reaction image
Well at least it wasn't in the nuts. Thank you commissar.

>>95987422
Does that explain why mature media is "desexualized"?
Maybe they want to lower the age of entry.

I do think the way adults at large view media with "sexualized" elements could explain some things too

>>95987246
The fat patriarch with his brood bitches.

>>95987444
kek
>>95987440
Maybe he was supposed to be a white scar?
Or maybe the guy had to be made with standard skin textures to be converted better?

>>95987448
Does the patriarch really breed himself? I thought genestealers infected people and the people bred normaly which results in genestealer cult offspring. Like cucking on a genetic level.

>>95987246
Last Stand of the Emperor's Finest
10 Models
200 Points
Equiped with standard Bolters (S4 AP1 2 shots)

Can be joined by an Ancient and any Tacticus/firstborn leader

Special Ability: We Shall Never Yield -
Depending on the battle round, this unit gains the following abilities. These abilites are cumulative. If this unit is destroyed while attached to a Leader, the Leader retains the bonuses from We Shall Never Yield, but does not gain new ones
Battle Round 2: Weapons in this unit have Sustained Hits
Battle Round 3: This unit has a 5+ FNP
Battle Round 4: Attacks against this unit have -1 to wound
Battle Round 5: This unit's weapons score critical hits on a 5+

>Obliterators are very bad in the Iron Warriors themed detachment
>but very good in the Red Corsairs themed detachment
How did GW manage this?

>>95987361
>>95987246
seconded. Plastic tantalus with dais/vect option would be perfect

>>95987462
>Or maybe the guy had to be made with standard skin textures to be converted better?
I think that was likely the case, but maybe it is true that there was intention for him to be a White Scar and they decided to scrap it because he was gonna be friendly with the civvies.

>>95986899
It's pretty funny that while the mainline GW design team keep making the biggest, most retarded corner-cutting decisions possible with their miniatures the specialist games/forge world team keeps releasing fully detailed, increasingly large full plastic vehicle kits.

>>95987479
Noise Obliterators

>>95987471
ok ok but get this ok ready
>It's on a huge base that fits all 12 models
>But you can remove the models to use them as a regular tactical squad like the 30k primarch models

>>95987479
>wounding an obliterator at -1 if str exceeds their toughness
>bad
You really should reconsider that. Especially in a terminator heavy list where everything that is nasty AP that could eliminate them will hate wounding on 3's and 4's.

>>95987479
How good are Obliterators right now? I seem to remember they went from great to mid over the last year or so

>>95987530
only really usable in renegade raiders so they can move and hit stuff

>>95986930
You might be getting them mixed up with Blood Angels, IIRC in 3rd they could do some absolute bullshit about disembarking and assaulting from the front of Rhinos that could drive across the entire board in one turn or something like that. Space Wolf vehicles back then were identical to regular Codex Marines, with the sole exception of being able to take one Exterminator that was identical to the regular Guard version except it was BS4 with a bump in points to pay for it. A pretty scary machine against its ideal targets but not really overpowered.

>>95987448
This with a thick Latina matriarch tho

>>95987530
Specific detachments and only as filler. No lists should be designed around them.
>dark pacts gives X
>detachments give:
assault guns
shooting is -1 to wound if str exceeds T
make them nurgle/tzeentch for shooting bonuses during dark pacts
wizard shit giving them stealth near a DPrince
etc

>>95987422
>become targeted by sexual predators
So they can leave unattended with access to discord and roblox?
I'm less worried about my kid looking at things like >>95987447 than things they could watch on youtube kids

>>95987177
It depended on the army's tanks. Eldar vehicles were destructive because of the Fate Dice and instant 6's from farseers. It feels like a developer who really likes tanks is writing the main rules for 40k.

Also
>Died to 1 S9 Melta
Good fucking joke.

>>95987468
Genestealers and this case the patriarch can still use their ovipositor to infect new people.
The cucking of the galaxy shall continue.

>>95987584
>It feels like a developer who really likes tanks is writing the main rules for 40k
Are you not aware of Robin Cruddace?

you guys think I should do any priming? Its like 30 c outside and its almost midnight.

>>95987583
general consensus to most first world governments is the function of:
1. Don't give them any ideas so they won't approach people about the subject.
2. They won't engage in activities of the like with each other.
3. They won't share the idea of such activities before becoming of age to know.
4. Children will do stupid shit with what they know.
5. It's not your choice to decide what hundreds of governments and religions decided decades to thousands of years ago.

>>95987598
QRD?

>>95987610
So the first world governments want us to ignore the child predator problem???

>>95987611
https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Robin_Cruddace

>>95987610
>Don't give them any ideas so they won't approach people about the subject
Unless is da gei stuff that must be front and center for some reason.
I just want the mega fauna back.

>>95987627
Otherwise people would notice how much predators work in the public services, specially public schools.

>>95987607
I would avoid priming in high heat and humidity. I've primed in -35c with no issues when using a warmed can but hot days always produce wack rattle can primes

>>95987557
I wouldn't call them "filler". One unit of oblits is good because they will get one turn of good shooting and can indirect if needed. The problem is that they're essentially fortifications, hence why they're so good in RR.

>>95987691
Dang, I built like 5 models yesterday (Small ones only one marine sized one) and I was hoping to do some painting in the next few days.

This heatwave is fucking killing me man.

>>95987639
Jesus... The writing was on the wall longer than I thought...

>>95987552
Honestly it was probably something some larper wrote here that I read. I swear it was brought up during a conversation about wolves but I might just be getting old and mixing things up with bangels

>>95987696
They can deep strike. A favorite use is to deep strike them because they won't be in the front of the deployment zone and often they wont get shots first turn when the front line stuff has to move forward without having them in the way to slow them down.

Best case scenario you drop them down to soften a large target prior with their meltas (outside 9" DS rule) before a unit charges to finish it off without responding attacks. Like a dreadnought or otherwise a big bug or greater daemon.

How would you lads feel if I you scored a good deal on a 40k army and learned that it was a dead man’s collection after buying it?

>>95987557
>only as filler
>160 points
huh?

>>95987763
I know that using dead people's possession is bad juju, personally

>>95987763
Depends. What army?

>>95987229
>>95987584

Eldar in general was broken beyond repair in early editions. Tanks or no tanks. All thanks to Gave Thorpe.

>>95987769
Unfortunately people buy the models without a plan and they need firepower.

>>95987776
To be fair if I got cancer and realized my models would no longer be my own I’d wish they would go to someone who would enjoy them instead of going to the dump.

>>95987776
>>95987779
Guard I scored a good guard deal on some previous generation plastic cadians and I was paint stripping them. Then the thought hit me. That maybe the deal was so good because the next of kin didn’t know their actual worth because the owner died.

>>95987779
kek

>>95987207

Nah. Tanks where brittle as paper back in the days. Invulnerable didn't exist on tanks, and all you needed was one good hit. Failing that, most vehicles only had 3-4 hullpoints, which was basically wounds.
They changed all tanks to be more like the beasts and monsters thankfully, and removed the armour rules, they where beyond saving.

>>95987763
I think the dead man would be happy to know his models are getting a new life with another hobbyist instead of ending up in a landfill. I know I would.

>>95987794
>For every one of us who falls, ten more will take his place!

>>95987387
Ah yes who has no heard of Capatin Ligma of the fitma chapter fighting guzzle grok cupma of the gulpin clan. all on the battle of suggondese secundus in the stigma subsector. We are lucky that Inquisitor candice was around for the bofa conclave. What an epic story.

>>95987805
Guess you’re right anon.
>>95987807
Okay that made me laugh.

>>95987823
Frfr no cap

>>95987802
Salamanders have disproportionately cool successors for some reason.

>>95986788
Putting another order in right now, the fact that it makes amerimutts seethe is just icing on the cake

>>95987837
What is bothersome?

>>95987763
Is this the larp about the murderers army again

>>95987802
>star dragons
>dragon lords
I hate this sound like bad dragon products

>>95987823
You forgot eucalyptus stickenballs

>>95987874
I have cool dragon names.
Not sure if I'll use a dragon name.

>>95987864
>murderers army
QRD?

>>95987802
All the IH succs read like
>These dudes are ruthless to the max but will also go to any lengths to get the job done.

Vgh.... The true Angels of Death

>>95986947
Take the L mate

>>95987927
Yeah, I love old pics like that. The terrain and boards make it feel like a proper hobbyists dream rather than an advert.

It's cool how hard even just 5 little legionaries decked out for melee can hit. I love small units that can trade up well, it's my fav thing in the game.

>>95987933
>replying to a 2 hour old argument
kill yourself retard

Who's the biggest jobber in 40k?

>>95987131
Mate it's a brand new release of a new tooling, companies like Tamiya pretty much have zero mold lines these days on new kits, it's not really a thing anymore

>>95987952

>>95987947

>>95987950
Belakor

>>95987950
avatar

>>95987950
carnac

>>95987246
A seer council escorting some crystalline super-weapon, like a xeno ark of the covenant.

>>95987901
Every few months some guy comes here and types out 600 words how he found some army on marketplace that belonged to a murderer and that he's thinking about buying it but worried about bad energy. Then after he gets a few (you)s he says he won't buy it because he's scared and harvests more (you)s

>>95987950
Avatar of Khaine

>>95987950
/yourdudes/

>>95987950
Eldar

>>95987991
I see. Strange guy.

>>95987950
Avatar of Khaine
Swarmlord
Abbadon

How come the DG has no access to Vindicators? I seem to recall reading somewhere that they have more Vindicators than other legions because they fit their style of warfare.

>>95987950
M'Kar, Angron, Khaine, and Swarmlord in that order.

>>95988017
Their vindicators all got warped into plagueburst crawlers or some shit

>>95988017
counts-as their artillery now I guess

>>95988029
PBCs come from another tank

>>95987864
No for better or worse but can I get an archive link? I’m bored at work.

>>95988029
Plaguebursts are Mortar Tanks while the Vindicator is a Siege Engine. One is used to bombard enemy lines from a distance while the other has the firepower to bust apart heavy armour.

>>95987607
>30
>high heat
Lmao I don't know where that retard is from telling you to avoid priming, here that's literally winter day time temp and perfect priming conditions

>>95988078
30 celsius anon.

>TQ
The Shadow, or hell, any Dark Eldar Titan-killer

>>95987860
Learn English mate

>>95988087
You can't blame him, he is american, please understand.

>>95988087
Yes, I know, like I said that's winter temp in half of Australia, unless it's 90%+ humidity you will be fine priming

>>95987950
HIs jobbing is so great he counts as the greatest 40k jobber anyway without being 40k.

>>95988098
See>>95988105
>>95988101
wrong

>>95988088
The Rampage comes to mind as a semi-official kitbash it would be cool to see return.

>>95988017
The rhino chassis is soooo 2002 anon. There's more rhinos in the world than civics, so they've gotta go. You converters and hobbyists got too clever so nothing will be cross compatible going forward, please understand. Buy the new thing. Do it now.

>>95988119
I still remember that WD article about making your own vehicles and a points system for it. My friends made so many stupid superheavies.

>>95988119
brb, buying CP

>>95987950
>Jobber

What is this zoomer speak

>>95988170
jobber is a term older than your parents little timmy

>>95988162
*COMBAT PATROL!

>>95988119
>you know what says survivability? An open top
hate dark elves

>>95988105
Australia is dry, when the rest of the civilized world gets that hot it usually comes with humidity

>>95988170
The slang jobbing has been around longer than this website, poser.

>>95988017
>why can't an NPC faction be at least as good as the posterboy faction

>>95988170
"jobber" is a boomer term that comes from pro wrestling

>>95988170
Murk Loar.

>>95988180
I like the old Raider model more than than the new one, I think it's the 1998 honda civic ricer tier wing that does it for me.

>>95988195
That's funny, I know it as at a term from LAN party tournaments about people who weren't very good because they had jobs to go to instead of playing video games all day.

>>95987950
Avatar of Khain only ever shows up in fluff and vidya in order to job

>>95988229
I have trouble picking favourites, the old Raider's side-platforms were far better for showing dudes hitching a ride than the awkward hangers-on of the current one or the puny planks. Saying that though, the curren one has a nicer, broader main deck..
Old Raider had a nicer prow as well and the spoiler at the back was cool.

Whats better for the cost?
Raveners
Genestealers
Von Ryans Leapers
Lictors

So many units with similar stats and cost, damage to cost ratio(roughly)... What should I buy?

>>95988195
But is the posterboy faction even good?

>>95988187
Wrong again buddy, and I mentioned humidity
Try reading

>>95988270
the one you think is cooler looking

>>95987927
This but unironically

>>95988422
Doesn't push me one way or the other really.

>>95988270
I don't actually know but my gut says GW makes the newest release the strongest so probably Raveners.
If I was a tyranid player I'd get one of each unit because they're all pretty cool

>>95987285
>>95987344
Pretty sure it’s just a bog standard ad hominem.

>>95988456
That's not what ad hominem is

>>95988244
in wrestling it is "a performer whose primary role is to lose to established talent"
in other words, they lose because it's their job to lose

>>95988461
It’s attacking the person instead of the argument.

Alright the vote is over. Elite squad won at 18 votes. Thanks for participating! I'll start on the collage tomorrow.

>>95988610
Just for some clarification what makes a squad "elite"
More specifically I've got some von ryans leapers in the middle of being assembled at the moment, are they elite enough?

>>95988610
Time to get the tzaangor out I guess

>>95988613
In my mind it's models that used to fill the old elite roll. Think terminators and the like. Not really a nid expert so I'm not sure what role Von Ryans would be but I'd be ok with it.

>>95988610
I'm going to combine the top two and do an elite unit for a faction I haven't painted yet

>>95988610
would court of the archon count as elite

>>95988631
Cool. Looking forward to it.

>>95988638
Feels more like a command squad sorta thing. I'm fine with it though.

>>95988610
Breaka boyz ere we go

>>95988610
Alright I'll finish up those Ruststalkers

>>95988610
Nice, I happen to have some Cthonian Beserks on my hobby desk right now.

>>95988610
Are the nemesis claw an elite squad?

Look, if it is an infantry unit and it does not have battle line? It is probably Elite. Maybe shy away from stuff that has a 10 squad minimum. But other than that it's fine.

>>95988270
Now? Raveners. You get two boxes, make one the Kill Team and one the regular ones and attach them, run them in Subterranean.

If each model in the elite squad costs more than twice as much as a basic battle line unit per model, it is an elite

>>95988714
Isn't that just a csm squad with some nightlord trinkets on?

>mfw the thread has this many people so new they have ONLY played 10th and don't even know what Elite means
Holy fuck

>>95988731
They have their own datasheet, so idk.

>>95988739
I dont play the game I just build and paint models.

>>95988742
I still haven't forgiven him for that Tyranids codex.

>>95988744
>I dont play the game I just build and paint models.
Honestly I think that's less cringe than playing 10th, so good on you.

>>95988624
>Chaff
>Elite
Lol. Lmao even
.>>95988628
Leapers would be Fast Attack because of their quick movement, infiltration, and priority in battle.

>>95988749
And we never will.

Also he's obviously been the guy to fuck up lots of other people's codexes since then, they just stopped putting his name on the books after the colossal piece of shit that was Tyranids 5th. I guarantee he was responsible for the bad Orks codex in 7th, the bad AdMech codexes, everything unimaginative and shitty has the same stench on it.

>>95988610
Veteran guardsmen aka death korps will be worked on alongside my main force.

>>95988757
>Leapers would be Fast Attack because of their quick movement, infiltration, and priority in battle.
This, also the fact that they're a callback to the 2nd edition Hormagaunts which became Fast Attack in the 3rd edition rulebook.

>>95988764
His name showed up in quite a few of the faction preview interviews for their indexes so you know he had a hand in some of the especially shitty indexes to start off 10th edition. I'm pretty sure he's the lead designer now.

>>95988638
I would say the court definitely counts. It was listed as an elite option in 9th edition. Make sure you post pictures of them posing with your archon when you're done.

>increases the pitch of your transmissions until you sound like a tiny chipmunk
What now Night Lord?

>>95988787
I saw his name in the developer's note for 9th edition so you know he had his hands in those pies as well.

>>95988802
>It's the sound of your brothers being slain one by one, the screams of their pain echoing as if you were listening to the death of Alvin and the Chipmunks.

>>95988250
Avatar gets a good showing in Valedor and one of the later Ciaphas Cain books.

>>95988787
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/Ac2uqTOe/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-the-leagues-of-votann/
>The Leagues of Votann rules focus on armies of hardy warriors who defeat their foes through a combination of teamwork, target prioritisation and ruthless efficiency,” explains Robin from the Warhammer Design Studio. “The profiles on their datasheets have been overhauled, enabling us to better represent the resilience of their warriors and the superior craftsmanship of their weaponry.

>“Their Eye of the Ancestors Army Rule has been simplified, but its essence remains the same – as your opponent's units inflict casualties on your army they accrue Judgement tokens, and the more they have the more efficiently your forces can eliminate them in turn. In practice this means that even your rank and file warriors can pose a threat to your opponent's elite forces.”

I want to remind you this was a 20%-30% win rate faction for almost six months after the launch of 10th.

>>95988823
Literally everything he touches goes to shit immediately except Imperial Guard. Every single time. It's insane he still even has a job, let alone is one of the lead designers.

>>95988823
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/S6Zkdnsj/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-aeldari/
He's also quoted in the Aeldari index article. AKA the almost broken published Army rules in the history of the game. And he's defending Fate Dice of all things

>>95988739
Anon, there are people who have never known anything but "Points as Power Level", who have never seen an armory page or a force org chart, who do not know what a pinning test is, who do not know that mortal wounds are just Rending again and caused the exact same problems, who have never known the game without Admech or Custards or Primarus or Tau. It's just how it is now.
Elites got real grab bag by the end too, they shoved scouts and anyone with a flag in there.
>>95988787
The index balance was all over the place. You had shit like full tilt boogie Oath of Moment released alongside Votann and Dark Eldar and Admech and Tau.
I am still mad about Crisis Suits. Somebody is married to power level and old crisis were a unit that doesn't do one size fits all. It's like they were designed for a different points system and were awkwardly hammered into this one.

>>95988842
*The most broken*

>>95988770
Nvm he meant elite units in army lists not yourdudes.

Any deathwatch players? Are they fun or needlessly complicated?

>>95988823
>"Their only tactic seems to be 'slow advance.' The problem is, they're really good at it."

>>95988739
>tfw the unit I'm planning on painting wasn't even in the army when elite choices were a thing

>>95988610
Would it be cheating to use the BGV I’m 1/3 of the way through……

>>95988854
>without Admech or Custards or Primarus or Tau
Tau appeared in 3rd edition, they are not like those others.

Update from yesterday. I think I took the picture too closely, but I'm liking how the silver looks with the armor.

>>95989054
I really like what you did. I do have to say, those models have aged a bit.

>>95989059
Thanks, anon.
I agree, the Warp Talons age is starting to show, especially when I compare them to the Chosen or Legionaries.
I really like them as a unit though so I'm okay with it.

I think they are really fun. They can be played in both simple and complex styles and are very strong right now. They filter people by being really hard to model though, and most of their squads don't have dedicated boxes but are instead made up of several boxes so they are very expensive.

I got into them in 10th edition when they just had the index. I really love the Corvus Blackstar even though its bad because the idea of black clad special ops marines rappelling down from the 40k equivalent of a Harrier jet really tickled my brain in the right ways. The special ammunition strats are very straightforward and really sell the "we have the right tool and the right gun for every job" aesthetic that they have. These are the guys with the full armory unlocked who can take the most ridiculous relic and xenos weapons from all over the galaxy. I painted mine to all come from chapters I like, I have Raptors, Dark Krakens, Salamanders, Ultramarines, Space Wolves, Dark Angels and Blood Ravens all in my army (its barely 1000 points).

If you are thinking of getting into them my QRD of how the army plays is
>amazing special units called Kill Teams that are mixed profile primaris squads but with better guns, including S5 bolters!
>deathwatch veterans are the best firstborn manlet unit left in the game outside of gray knights, S10 Thunderhammers go bonk. kit is fantastic.
>straightforward ammo strats let you maximize you shooting on all your units
>best teleportation strat in the game, so best in class mobility
>the Corvus Blackstar can be put in hover mode and used to deliver a unit pretty much anywhere in the battlefield (unfortunately cant charge because no assault ramp GW please fucking give this thing assault ramp. you can call it Aerial Assault and make it once per game or something)

>>95989106
Thanks for the write up anon, really good shit to know and seem like a fun option for a side army

>>95988950
I started in the ass end of third, Tau were my first army. I'm used to them carrying the expansion pack faction label, if that's finally changing then thank fuck. I got real tired of hearing people bitch about jump-shoot-jump or fish of fury when they clearly weren't there for it. I probably should have said Votann as the example instead, but I forgot about them.

>want to get some wolves if I ever want to run my bladeguard as headtakers
>can't find any STLs that really jump out at me
>go to LGS
>no fenrisian wolves for sale
>but somebody reselling a couple of the new wolves and some of the new gloomspite wolfriders for cheap
extremely scuffed and realizing with how much carving into the bodies I did I might as well have mounted the legs and heads on armatures but too late lmao

>>95989142
It's also funny that Tau came almost a year before Necrons got a codex, but no one complains Necrons are new. And yeah they had a tiny handful of models and white dwarf rules at the ass end of 2nd edition but Necrons were NOT a real faction until that Codex.

>>95989166
But Necrons used to be pic

>>95989173
Those were never Necrons

heh little plastic dudes

Speaking of Necrons, the old Immortal models fuck and I while I understand the reasoning, I wish they had not gotten rid of the green tubes. I felt it gave them a unique and yet unifying little detail.

>>95989189
>>95989192
>>95989195
Nice. Any recommendations for where to get a textured game mat like that?

>>95987950
avatar of khaine and the swarmlord have a lot of stories where they lose in order to establish some other character as super cool and totally awesome. People forgot to mention Celestine, she has several stories of the exact same thing. She's lost and died several times already in her stories.

I play sisters, so I sit at the jobber faction table that is written to lose constantly. My good friends eldar and guard are regulars at the table.

>>95989215
I'm a git

>>95989218
Slaughters you and your sisters to make a protective ward around me (I’m already immune to chaos)

>>95989215
It's a store mat sorry

>>95988610
Crisis suit time ig

>>95989054
He wants a hug.

>>95989300
He just really wants to charge you, you should let him.

why dont chaos marines just kill the custodes with the help of the xenos

>>95989331
>with the help of the xenos
That's why

>>95989331
Aliens are stinky.

OI'Z A DAEMON

OI'Z A DAEMON AN' OIM GONNA BE CHASIN' AFTA' SUM GIT

>>95989331
>Chaos working with chaos xenos to kill some banana men
Too kino. I really like the idea of the black legion version of Fabius Bile having and experimenting on grey knights and custodes to

>>95989225
What if normal space marines or some IG guys did that since they're not immune to chaos?
Also you could argue the GK are only immune to chaos so long as they keep doing purifying rituals and praying and not some passive they get from surviving their basic training

>>95989433
People fall to chaos for the same reason they commit crimes or think this time their fail ideologies will work this time.
They simply lack inner monologues

>>95988610
Good result. I've had a squad of Chaos Terminators awaiting my attention for over year, I guess it's time.

>>95989166
Way off, necrons came out way before tau, I left the hobby before tau came out and remember the necrons mini WD gave away

>>95987097
I prefer older editions, older models, and firstborn marines.

>>95989505
Still Tau are older than Dark eldar despite secondaries saying tau don't belong and no one ever saying that about the deldar

>>95989152
Looks quite shit NGL
>>95989189
>>95989192
>>95989195
Kino

Rolled 5 (1d5)

rollan to decide what i paint for the collage

1: inner circle companions
2: crisis suits
3: killa kans
4: assault termies
5: custodes wardens

>>95989527
They better be NMM

>>95989527
>rollan to decide what i paint for the collage
>3: killa kans
They better have baggy jeans and cool sneakers

>>95989331
Kind of related, shouldn’t triarch praetorians be on the same level as custodes and solitaires? Theyre basically the elite units of the necrons and have been constantly awake and fighting for 60 million years, but they seem kind of downplayed compared to elites from other factions

>>95989527
jeez anon how many armies do you have?

>>95989433
Idk i feel like the sister slaughter was a little unnecessary, I think whoever was in charge simply had a fetish (clearly already corrupted by slaanesh

>None of the armies im currently painting have elite squads that I dont have to buy

Well, this sucks. Its either buy some more models or start some new army whose scheme i havent even decided yet.

>>95989549
they will be black
>>95989558
three but i enjoy painting models from many armies

>>95989576
Yeah both the last one and the next one would require me to purchase stuff specifically for the collage. Which is something I'd be all for if I didn't already have stacks of stuff sitting around. Just gonna keep hobbying on my own time and enter when I can without needing to buy stuff

>>95989521
Dark eldar are present in the 3rd edition rule book.
Can't say the same for necrons or tau.

Are noise marines elite?

>>95987950
Celestine

any scan of the space wolves codex yet?

>>95989521
True I'll give you that, I remeber those first DE minis where god awful and even worse than tau, tho that whole era was shit sculpts, eldar refresh from good mins to worse, orks goyslopped by Brian Nelson taking all the character out of them, sad days

>>95989524
You have no models

>>95988823
>“The profiles on their datasheets have been overhauled, enabling us to better represent the resilience of their warriors and the superior craftsmanship of their weaponry.
>made their saves worse
>and lowered the range on almost all of their guns
>but they got an extra point of toughness now
Still a little mad over that.

>>95989152
T H I C C

I finished my backlog, now what do I do?

>>95989808
Well done.
Ever made terrain from scratch?

>>95989808
No you didn't, you never had any models

>>95989816
I accept your capitulation. I'll even be nice enough to let you get your kneepads when you suck my dick.

>>95989808
Now you can pass away peacfully in your sleep and no one can be mad at you about it.

>>95989844
If you're legitimately stuck on what to do you can always go back and sharpen up your highlights on your HQs

>go to LGS
>they have the Space Wolves Army Box in stock
>most of the stuff still in stock on the site
Lmao did they use up all the production capacity for Space Wolves to make extra? No way they didn’t sell well. Maybe that’s why so many kits are out of stock right now.

>>95989885
They always up the production for marines since they sell 100x the next closest armies

>>95989804
Consequences of not slimming down the bodies enough to accommodate for the GS fur
They just haven't shed their winter coats yet :^)

>>95989910
I had to brush out my dog's winter coat the other day. Fucker basically lost half his size in fur.

>>95989911
the pain of double coated dog breeds
my current dog's an alsatian mix and his coat takes like 3-4 phases of blowing out throughout the spring and summer to fully shed off and it's always a dog-sized pile each time lmao

For June's entry I will paint a zephyrim squad, I think that they should count as elite even though they're priced like chaff.

>>95986063 (OP)
this is a StuG/StuH. it stugs.

>>95989749
Youll call me a schizo but I can guarantee this is the lamenterfag
He's the only one who dickrides the orangefag instantly every time he gets criticized

>>95989954
Wouldn't it be StuLK for "Sturmlaserkanone"?

>>95989963
>everyone I don't like is the same person

>>95989963
You have no miniatures

>>95987246
>ork unit
>SQUAD BROKEN

>>95989985
>>95989990
Don't burn through all your accusations at once lamenterfag

>>95989993
Looks like someone got mogged by the lamenterfag recently and has them living rent free in their head

>>95989996
It's probably the decalfag. Lamentersanon dunked on him the other night and he had one of his classic meltdowns over it

>its poopfartschizo!!
I wish this place just died already

>>95988610
Well just happens I've got squad of wolf guard terminators coming that I'm going to cut/file a lot of the wolfy bits off for my chapter. I really like the look of the squad sarg

>>95990001
Certainly would make sense given >>95989963 is bookended by ww2 German posts

>>95990001
If he’s here, can you post lamenters pls?

>>95990003
>decalfag accusation posted
>instantaneous "I'm not him!!!" posts appear
You aren't very good at this

>>95990015
I'm not defending anyone you dumb fuck, you people just deserve the rope for turning this place into a reddit-tier namefag circlejerk. Generals are truly the worst thing that happened to this shithole

>>95990022
Oh it's the /v/ermin seething about modelposting in general again lmao

>>95990022
Maybe you could start a little discord group for other like minded secondaries to post anything but their models and games. You could even assign a schizo of the week to give you guys someone to lash out at randomly.

>>95989129
No problem anon. I like mine, particularly my Indomitor kill team. Always love to welcome another anon to the Long Vigil. Just realized I didn't reply to you, glad you found it.

1x Canis Rex (380)
1x Castellan (395)
1x Lancer (360)
2x Warglaive (140 x2)

What should I do with the remaining 265 points? Do I just take out an armiger and add another big dude? If so, which big dude do I pick?
2x Helverin (130 x2)

>>95990003
You could always leave. It doesn't sound like you enjoy it here

>>95990048
Have you considered 265pts of jokaero

>>95989129
I should also add that the Blackstar, Deathwatch Veterans, and Watch Master can be allied into any Imperial army so they pull double value.

>>95990048
Two Immolators and a Battle Sister Squad.

We frigpostan, we frenspostan

>>95990084
Where's all the elves? Are they banned from the fridge or something?

>>95990114
Nobody owns them

>>95988610
Fuck, all my elite units are already painted.

>>95990114
There's only one or two people who play Eldar of any flavor that post here that I know of and they don't post often. I kinda wanna start a DEldar army myself but I'm short on funds, space and honestly waiting for an eventual refresh before I buy in.

I'm thinking of kitbashing an IFV version of the Devilfish. I think an ion turret would be the best option. I think the Hammerhead one is probably too big, so it would be either the Razorshark, or Pathinfer's Ion Rifles. What do you think?

Working on a Gorkanaut. Having fun :)

>>95987505
Oblits aren't that kind of tanky. They're tanky in the "you have to point something real to kill these" but oblits are pretty important targets to pick off, they're quite expensive and if you point a real gun at them they will explode just like anything else. 5 T7 wounds just aren't that difficult to break through.

>>95990230
with the amount of anti elf shitposting I wouldn't post here as an Eldar player either

>>95988610
Anyone got a prior collage? I want to see what faction(s) need some representing on them the most. Otherwise it'll be Sternguard time.

>>95990278
Eh, that's never bothered me. I post my Votann here pretty often; it'll be a cold day in hell before I let retards on the internet tell me what to do.

Hypothetical army I want to run. Because I believe in the concept of a young chapter having minimal equipment choices and having "The Holy Bolter" being their ideal weapon.

Intercessors, Heavy Intercessors, Devastators with Heavy Bolters, maybe some Sniper Scouts and Suppressors.
Using Anvil Siege Force
>Ranged weapons equipped by ADEPTUS ASTARTES models from your army have the [HEAVY] ability. If such a weapon already has this ability, each time an attack is made with that weapon, if the attacking model’s unit Remained Stationary this turn, add 1 to the Wound roll.

I don't know if its competitive or able to stand on its own. HB+Autocannon could lend me options like Destructors, and the like. But as it stands, I like the current theme.

Should I do it? I want to meme bolters.

>>95990344
Forgot to ask, which founding legion was more bolter based?

Is there any point beside fluff in adding daemons to my CSM list, considering they don't gain the heretic keyword and I can't use strats on them?

Are there any books where orks are actually dangerous and not jobbers?

>>95990369
Compared to:
No change of keyword for strats. Daemons got fucked over.

>>95990371
not really

>>95990364
if

>>95990364
none

>>95990381
Then I'll become a unique edgy flower by being the "Bolter Buddy" chapter or whatever I make it.

Lots of special bolter variant units to pick from these days.

>>95990377
Shame.

every codex should aim at DG's level of synergies and power

A Squad of these guys are currently parked on one of the objectives in No Man's Land.

What tool does your army have to dislodge them from it?

>>95990403
>instant killing 6 inch deep strike chare deathballs
Fuck no

>>95990411
dunno, ask /hhg/

I bought a few 7e codexes because I got tired with the old clunky PDF conversions and I have to admit we peaked back then when it comes to lore, art and book design back then. 7e was an awful edition it terms of rules and balance but reading these codexes is such a pleasant experience.

>>95990422
>7e
>peak of art
you should buy a pair of eyes next time

>>95990411
Just drop a squad of Repentia on them

>>95990439
The artist knew exactly what they were doing.

>>95990369
Nurglings have Infiltrate, which means you can acquire objectives just as quickly.

>>95989876
More people falling for the highlights meme

>>95990475
>just as quickly
as what

>>95987950
GW

>>95990482
bait used to be believable

>>95990444
I thought 'wow anons getting banned for porn on a blue board' but its legit justa recolour lmao

>>95990369
nurglings are good because they're cheap with infiltrate
other than that not really. shalaxi was decent when she was super killy for cheap but now it's not worth it
CSM in general has pretty poor internal balance. it's the possessed/chosen/vindicator/predator show i'm afraid

>>95990475
Nurglings also have OC0 so cant hold objectives anon-kun

>>95990543
>Poor internal balance
>Same thread talking about a certain treadhead

>>95990568
I miss Matt Ward

>>95990544
This can't be happening!

Wanting to join a crusade starting at 1000 points, picrel is my list.
Only problem is that my army is caught between 2 schemes.
Is there an obvious way I can mate them up? Or should I strip and redo something?

>>95990595
They look great, dont sweat it. Also your vehicles can have a different scheme than your troops, its fine. The Dark Angels have 3 different schemes for their army, yours should be good.

Bit expensive for a FW recast isn't it

>>95990637
I wonder if it's still possible to find a 2nd edition model that doesn't cost an arm and a leg

>>95990637
i was having a look the other day, grot tanks were like 40ish usd. not particularly cheap

>>95990595
looks cool man
I actually like when vehicles have a different scheme to infantry

>>95990637
they just price it as a % of the original price so since FW is retarded expensive turns out 40% of retarded expensive is still expensive
not very worth it imo, plus the casts are going to be fucked because FW is fucked

>>95990411
1 billion dev wounds and [Anti-Infantry] attacks.

are the fenrisian wolves kit getting squatted in the space wolves update? i was gonna get em for a conversion, dont know if i need to upgrade that to an emergency order

>>95990644
Some 2nd edition characters are still <£10 at times on ebay, like warlocks and farseers etc

>>95990411
Laughs in splinter weapons

>>95990692
Email notifications it is then

>EC actually thought Khârn's stunt on Skalathrax was hilarious
My god, this changes everything!

>>95990522
Is better to not have highlights than having bad highlights.
But al least you have to use washes and maybe drybrush.

>>95990703
Oh yeah you gotta check repeatedly, some sellers want like £17 for a model others put up at £8

>>95990665
I can't find anything more pathetic than comissioning/drawing actual artwork over 40k powerlevel shite.
If it was a crudely bashed together meme image then at least it'd have some merit.

>>95990714
There is a resin recast being sold in the UK for about 40 bings right now

>>95990721
>t.elfdarian faggot who misrepresented what happened in that scene time after time

>>95990721
this

>>95990731
kill yourself

>>95990731
You're wrong and I am aware how the scene went, more or less.

New
>>95990743

>>95990743

>>95990743

>>95990411
Same as always
Lord of Contagion and deathshroud

>>95990411
Archon + incubi

>>95990721
desu when I first looked at the image I thought it was from both sides perspectives.

>>95990377
be careful comparing orks to africans. I got banned multiple times already because pointing out similarities is racist apparently

Man these guys are a fucking slog. They aren't even good as a unit right now so it's hard to be motivated

>>95990637
It's massive compared to the standard lord of change model.