Thread 96010966

Not-porn Edition.

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>95991157

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
Warscroll Maker: https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/
List Builder: https://www.newrecruit.eu/
Army Reminders: https://aosbattleorders.co.uk/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

>Thread Question
Are the two upcoming death faction pushed back to Halloween?

>>96011011
Happy 10th Birthday, AoS!

>TQ
Supposedly Chorfs will be the big autumn reveal, meaning they have to get the 4 announced Battletomes over with first. With 4 months left, I'd say the death releases will be at the beginning of autumn (late September) with them being released during August.

>>96011023
I think Chorfs would make more sens as a Christmas releas in December

>>96011011
HAPPY BIRTHDAY AOS

Wish I had an AoS erlated pic for this ocasion but oh well.

To many more years having the coolest and sexiest models out of any Warhammer franchise

>>96011027
December are Battleboxes for the christmas season, not any new armies

>>96011037
FEC box or STD box was released then and rest of the wave was made avalible later. Why not releas the Chorf box set the same way?

>>96011018
No way it came out on 4th of July

>>96011096
Deepest lore

>>96011096
AoS got announced on the 4th and released on the 11th.

>>96011106
Holy shit they released it 1 week after announcing it?

Is the old ardboyz/black orcs kit really much smaller than the new Ardboyz? I’ve never built the old ones before but if I ever felt like expanding my IJ then it would be better to find TOW 20 man Black orcs cause it’s a better value. I’m just wondering if they’re little baby sized compared to the new ardboyz which are harder to paint and transport.

>>96011254
New guys are muscular, old guys have beer bellies.
They're more of a top heavy vs botom heavy difference

>>96011023
>>96011027
Chorfs will be announced at July 20th.

>>96011296
If they do, it will just be a tease, no actual models shown, like the Kruelboyz

>>96011296
Obvious troll. At least choose a day that isn't Sunday

>>96011303
They already teased it in their last big reveal show though.
>>96011306
Tacoma ends at 20th, but my info comes from Valrak and he's paid by GW.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC0mxvOBaJY

OK guys, I'll keep it simple, a link please, really please, it's not much... or is it?

>>96011254
The lore says it, small ones are not in Ironjawz, that's why they became bigger, that and to update miniatures

>>96011320
You want the 2e one or the new one? Cause i only have the new

>>96011122
GW had very poor communication back in the day.

>>96011344
Honestly i'd prefare getting stuff imediatly after announcment instead of 6 month long teases that get delayed twice

Can we have more new maps please? 4 editions and we're still in the same places. The only new map we had was in the 2nd edition with the territories governed by the super Egyptian-samurai skeletons. And no, I'm not counting updates because they're the same maps, slightly changed. The mortal realms are huge, and we've only seen the tip of the iceberg.

>>96011320
>>96011340
The second one is the one I'm missing, if anyone has it, it would be greatly appreciated, and if not, then also.

>>96011371
I was hoping Dawnbringer wouldbjust throw us into some nonsens, but both Hammerhal ones went 3 steps outside their own house before deciding that's enough.

>>96011032
There are two things I want to know about that image.
1. Was Morathi an ally of Slaanesh before or not anymore?
2. Was Tyrion an unfaithful husband and a traitor to his race, or is this just an exaggeration?

>>96011395
don't understand, context please.

>>96011409
>backdrop of 3rd edition is Sigmar's forces retaking new land
>end of edition campaign had the biggest CoS force moving their ass and launching 2 crusades
>neither of them made it beyond the curently known map before ending
Granted Aqshy one more or less reached tbe end of the continent before getting killed by Skaven, but the Ghyran one just gave up and decided whatever settlement they made on the way was good engough after the Ushoran arc ended

>>96011371
Just look at the size of this and we know almost nothing about it, maybe in a very, very distant future we will come to know everything, but it's more likely to win the lottery than for that to happen, right?

>>96011404
1- Yes, but not anymore because Slaanesh ate her and Morathi didn't like that.
2- Yes to everything, he was unfaithful, a traitor, and if that weren't enough, in AoS they forgave him for all of that and elevated him to god, which is why I hate the high elves, now called the Lumineth.

>>96011498
He was elevated by wind of hysh farting on him in End Times, Lumineth came after.
At least i think he's still blind so you got that going

>>96011380
files dot fm/u/j9bdjb2tty

>>96011018
I can’t believe GW isn’t even acknowledging it. Grim.

>>96011254
Googled it for you

>>96011517
That's because it released on the 11th. You don't do an anniversary for the day of announcement, you do an anniversary on the day it's available.

>>96011555
Heads and hands on the old ones are xboxhueg

>>96011516
YOU ARE GREAT MY FRIEND, GORKAMORKA AND THE BONESPLITTERZ WILL CRUSH BONES IN YOUR HONOR.

>>96011560
Heroic scale vs true scale

>>96011515
Seriously, does anyone know why Tyrion was turned into a god? Teclis, I understand, but Tyrion.

>>96011615
Because they're twins plus some end times shit nobody read.

>>96011404
tyrion wasn't married with alarielle nor he was an unfaithful lover, if anything it's alarielle who was unfaithful: it's the customary duty of the everqueen of ulthuan to marry the phoenix king of her era and spend one year together to produce a daughter that would be the next everqueen, after that year it's not really a marriage that has to stand and both the everqueen and the phoenix king can go their own ways and have their own actual lovers
except alarielle in that year didn't have a daughter with the phoenix king, but with tyrion

>>96011615
tyrion was infused with the wind of hysh
teclis was not actually infused with any wind when he died and he did not in fact survive into aos as a god, tyrion had to make a pact with the realm to bring his twin brother back, and make him a god by giving up part of his own essence, as well as his sight.

>>96011632
1- OK, he wasn't an unfaithful husband, a point in his favor.
But he was a sympathizer with Morathi and betrayed his race, right?
2- His divinity is justified, another point in his favor.
But he wasn't a good ruler and was a tyrant, right?

>>96011662
>But he was a sympathizer with Morathi and betrayed his race, right?
wrong
>But he wasn't a good ruler and was a tyrant, right?
he was never a ruler, no


are you getting confused between tyrion and malekith? or the period of time tyrion wielded the sword of khaine?

I think you guys overestimate the word "god" in the context of the setting.
Most of them are just magic dudes that don't die of old age

>>96011684
GW have explicitly detailed
>Godbeasts
>Dead/defeated gods
Including those whose existence is basically just a blessing bestowed upon one devoted follower.
Godhood is just a spectrum of power

>>96011319
>Valrak
Best we get is 'Potentially' some AoS revealed there, along with some 'potential' Khorne stuff.
My guess is that the show will be marine-slop central between the rumored chapter-specific combat patrols & HH. AoS will be a sideshow with maybe some more Khorne stuff and a Chaos dwarf teaser if we're lucky. Happy to be proven wrong though.

>>96011684
Correct, the gods of the 8 realms are just guys infused with the winds of magic, the true gods are the 5 of chaos and if you don't believe me just look at how it took all the aelven gods just to imprison one chaos god and only temporarily.

>>96011738
>chapter-specific combat patrols
>here are the same Primaris models, painted different colours on the box. Don't forget to buy them all!

>>96011739
the chaos gods are just powerful demons, not real gods

>>96011684
different types of divinity, all the gods except the Chaos 5 are an F, maybe a D or C, and all 5 are an A+

>>96011754
This. If they were actual deities they would have been the source of emotions, not a product of them

>>96011754
Powerful demons? Don't make me laugh.

>>96011754
The gods of chaos are the living manifestation of the emotions, desires and thoughts of conscious beings and not simple powerful demons.

>>96011764
it's long been established in realm of chaos how there's no real difference between a chaos "god' and any big enough other demon, and it goes on to say that no matter what we're dealing with, all prospective demonic patrons try to present themselves as bigger and more important and more powerful than they actually are

>>96011770
>the living manifestation of the emotions, desires and thoughts of conscious beings
so are other random independent demons, the only difference is size

>>96011764
Skarbrand tried to overthrow Khorne. Whole pretandee subfaction tries to take Slaanesh's place. "Chaos God" is just whoever sits on the chair (literally in the case of the skull throne)

>>96011754
The powerful demons are slaves of the gods of chaos, they are the most powerful of the Warhammer universes, they are the final enemy to defeat, of course, if they can be defeated.

>>96011786
>The powerful demons are slaves of the gods of chaos
No, there are plenty of independent demons in the realm of chaos that aren't slaves nor part of the "gods".
You're mistaking the demons that bigger demons can create from splinters of themselves with them.
The great powers of chaos are literally no different than any other demon, metaphysically speaking, they're just bigger.

>>96011786
Who's slave is Vashtor?

>>96011794
Chaos Undivided, just like Be'lakor.

>>96011811
Haven't heard of a guy named Chaos Undivided. What does he look like?

>>96011018
BORN ON THE FOURTH OF JULY

>>96011814
Chaos Undivided has named facets and forms, this being one of them.
>guy
>he
It's "They/Them", you fucking biggot.

>>96011814
A loose dangling wrinkly ball sack

>>96011555
hey thanks. I checked mini compare and the side by side made it look like tactical squad marine vs primaris.

they look about the same side so I think in the future I'm gonna opt for the oldboyz whenever possible.

after painting 10 of the new ardboyz it gets really annoying trying to fit my brush in the hunched parts.

I also built them with spears cause they look much cooler on the table but they become a bitch to fit into a formation.

>>96011857
Yeah I don't how minicompare gets its data but it gets stuff wrong pretty frequently, it's not super reliable.

>>96011404
No. Morathi is one of the staunchest anti chaos gods.
Yeah, Tyrion is a dope

May Morathi rule for another age as the glorious Age Of Morathi continues on for another decade

>>96011879
>No. Morathi is one of the staunchest anti chaos gods.
Remind me again how she got a "preferential" seat in slaanesh's gullet.
The pleasure cults were totally unrelated, I imagine.

>>96011961
Neat, an excuse to paint up some idoneth without buying a full force.

>>96011961
>Order only
Yawn

>>96011961
Finally can run my Sharks and Boats Kharadron list.

>>96012000
You are contractually obligated to say 'we're gonna need a bigger boat' whenever the first one goes down.

>>96011961
The sharks seem pretty fun, thralls are meh but if you wanted them as narrative allies or something now you can

>>96012004
can i repost that to reddit lol it's so funny dude i know that reference

>10 year anniversary
>no mentions on warhammer community
Is it dead?

Reposting since I got in on the tail end of the previous thread:
Juggernauts are bigger than a regular horse of course, but what about the riders? Skullcrushers aren't exactly a recent kit.

>>96012141
The riders are not noticeably different

>>96012108
It's not the aniversary yet retard

Floof

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/4jtwzxns/chronicles-of-ruin-the-reaping/

>>96011961
Is it just me or are the namarti thralls used for those promo shots repainted compared to what they used to be? I swear they used to be even paler.

>>96012191
Might be because they're different paint schemes? The article has pics of Namarti painted in Ionrach and Fuethán colors.

>>96012186
Nice story. I wonder if it has some hints about the Idoneth's role in whatever campaign they end 4th ed on, it'd be cool if Idoneth found some way to alleviate their need to reap souls, but this causes a split in their civilization among those who prefer the old isolationist ways and those who want to live closer to the rest of Order civilization.

>>96012191
They have red armor instead of blue, so that might influance how you see the white

>>96012186
I've been liking the little mini illustrations they've shown off so far for idoneth. The fish helmet is pretty cool looking

>>96012274
I think they're those battletome inserts that separate paragraphs

>>96012141
Chunkier and taller
Blood warriors are smaller and they're fatcast sized. Fatcast libs dwarf chaos warriors

>>96012322
>Blood warriors are smaller and they're fatcast sized
blood warriors absolutely aren't fatcast sized, hell, they're shorter than the new chaos warriors and those are barely taller than old chaos warriors

finished this guy today

>>96012345
last brute of the spearhead. I got the john blanche AP set today and I did this all using just the 10 paints from that set (except the dark reaper on the armor)

I'm not going to paint the sword gold, just testing the color. i'm probably gonna do dark metal with runelord brass on the teeth.

>>96012332
Insane stormcast colour scheme choice
>>96012345
>>96012355
Looking good anon. For some reason ironjawz are the most consistently posted paintjobs in this thread for a while now. You guys' paintjobs me considering picking them up, is their spearhead any fun ?

>>96012163
https://www.goonhammer.com/a-history-of-miniature-violence-age-of-sigmars-launch/
If you say so buddy. You seem to be drunk, I can take you up to my place to take care of you.

>>96012386
Nta, but it went up for Pre-Order on July 4th, released on July 11th. So the exact date is up for debate.

>>96012377
>is their spearhead any fun?

I've only used it once but it's pretty one dimensional. that doesn't mean it's boring or bad or OP. you get a lot of bodies and your megaboss can wipe out entire squads of infantry in a single fight. he can get an artefact that gives him 2 rend. He also pumps any keyword brute (the ragerz or regular brutes) with +1 attacks on a 2+ roll.

I played my game against Slaanesh and my megaboss took out 5 archers with a handful of dice which was hilarious. My ragerz killd his slaangors and i used the last one to damage his leader before it died. my ardboyz sat on obj and taken out by his cavalry, the other 5 screened for the ragerz so they could get in close and engage the slaangors. my boss went around the flank and stayed in range to boost the ragerz each turn.

your ardboyz are there to tie up the enemy and take damage. They get +1 rend anti-charge. your ragerz are fragile but get get strikes first if they charged, and with the boss' boost to their attacks they can do some serious damage. they probably will die but they can take a lot before they go down if you play them wisely.

They also get an army rule that lets you move 1 unit 3" during any hero phase and a regiment ability that lets you move ALL your units 3" for one turn. I think you can play them unga-bunga but you'd get more mileage being patient and setting up your strikes to maximize your damage and get into combat before your opponents shoot or outmanouvre you. The brutes come in turn 3 but can help you squeeze out a point lead with their passive. Overall it was fun even though I lost 9-17. It's a very honest spearhead.

Also it's good in multiples, has around 750 points, and pairs well with the last Christmas box. going with the kryptboyz scheme/black armor makes painting them stupid fast.

>>96012186
>adapting to not need to raid anymore
Interesting plot hook. Even if it's not actually fruitful, I hope the search for such a solution is part of future campaigns.
It would be cool to see them finding alternatives or making even worse bargains.

>>96012459
Why the fuck did you add pupils to a character without eyes?

>>96012547
It's not pupils

>>96012412
Either way GW don't seem to give a fuck.

>>96012641
I expect a retrospective warcom article or something. Maybe a commemorative model at absolute best. Did GW even do anything for 40k's 30th ? They brough out a retro marine or something ?

If gw is ever going to do something special, I expect it to be for 40k's 40th birthday coming up in a couple of years, because, well , ...

>>96012679
I thought 40 years of 40k alreayd happened. We're so far inot the future zoomers are almost 40

What are the statuses on the mortarchs atm? I know Arkhan is…dead? What about the rest?

>>96012691
Manfred bums around.
Neferata took another L after Dawners ruined her Ushoran milking operation.
Ushoran runs around naked.
Katakros probably fixes Gothizar after Chaos attackd it, all while complaining about his side hurting and how living in Ghur was better.
Olynder is useless, yet proceeds to snark at Kurdoss for doing stuff.

What do you think GW will call Chorfs?
"Chaos Dwarfs" seems too generic and we now how anal GW is about copyright-able names in everything they make.

Will they continue the current naming trend with something like "Servants of Hashuut" or "Legions of Hashuut" or something?

And do we have any idea what happened to Zhar Nagruund after Grimgor BTFO'd the chorfs? Will we get actual chorfs or will they be AoS-ified like fyreslayers, sylvaneth and CoS?

>>96012819
>Legions of Hashuut
They won't reuse Legion now that it's belakor's subfaction's name

>>96012819
Maybe worshippers?

>>96012819
Hammers of Hashut

>>96012819
In Fantasy they were called Dawi-Zharr so... Dwardin-Zharr.

>>96012819
Knowing GW's naming conventions for AoS? Ashborne Flamehost.

>>96011254
if you want value the IJ battleforce is still around.

>>96012958
>they sacked the warbend
an insult, really

>>96012819
Hellforged of Hashtut

>>96012345
Nice. You motivated me to also try some black armor orrukz, althou more in a looted chaos warrior gear sort of way. Slaves to Greennes if you will

>>96011018
>ive been posting in this shithole for 10 years
anyone remember first GHB and points addition?
anyone remember the MP countdown timer that led to nothing/a coming soon site?
anyone remember deepkin release?
anyone remember soonposting?

>We’ve even heard rumblings of a brand new army in the Mortal Realms…

Is this chaos dwarfs?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/yjzdwr3c/you-are-invited-to-the-big-summer-warhammer-preview-on-18th-july/

>>96013178
>this reveal show we were going to have anyway is actually a 10 years celebration for aos!
>we'll also show mainly stuff for 40k, the horus heresy, kill team and necromunda though

>>96013178
no its "Hashut Kayos Duardin"

>>96013178
No they're splitting Kruleboyz from Ironjawz

>>96013191
>AoS's birthday gift is dabbing on another Primaris Lutenant releas with a surprise Chorf preview
Acceotable

>>96013169
>MP countdown timer
It launched the malign portents book and harbingers?

>>96013178
I can already picture the 40kfags trying to analyse each and every hat as if they were individual clues for individual releases, while missing the bull in the oven.

>>96013202
no that came after

>>96013178
They are eluding to something earthquake related. Maybe kragnos gets his own faction? Or who else might be related in lore to earthquakes?
This doesn't read as chaos dwarfs to me

>>96013178
it sounds like the preview isn't really going to be about aos

>>96013178
Video hats:
>Cap with Deathwatch symbol
>Astronaut hat/Votan
>Egyptian hat/Tomb Kings
>Big hats/Chorfs

>>96013213
Fuck you

>>96013178
>Two weeks until Chorf reveal.
Acceptable

>>96013191
they literally just announced showing a new army, grow up.

>>96013226
so AoS gets nothing?

>>96013223
>Showing off a new AoS army isn't really about AoS
Anon, we're gonna be by far the biggest release previewed at the show. TOW might get another Arcane Journal of Tomb Kings, oh nooooo.

>>96013245
Aos gets a brand new Chorf army.

>>96013255
>AoS gets ANOTHER warhammer fantasy army
why cant we get something original like OBR anymore?

>>96013169
I wonder if that little girl still plays AoS.

>>96013221
earthshaker cannon, dreadquake mortar.

>>96013221
>earthquake related
>This doesn't read as chaos dwarfs to me
dude, earthshaker cannons, cmon

>>96013274
>i wonder if a ecelebs product placement daughter still plays a game she never played
her mom gets paid to promote board games.

>>96013178
Doomsisies eternally BTFO
Also please god it would be so fucking funny if it was Umbraneth, it would be like a Simpsons episode punchline

>>96013284
aos zoomies dont know what that is

>>96013263
all the orginal armies suck, except based spinoff NH ofc.

>>96013263
because that shit doesn't sell
idoneth, fyreslayers, kharadrons and krules all sell like shit, while night goblins, vampire counts, lizardmen and chaos warriors sell like hotcakes

>>96013263
>Why are the most popular AOS armies old WHFB armies?

>>96013263
Destruction bug men army soon.

>>96013284
>>96013279
Dude cmon, I'm here for AoS, not Fantasy battle. I don't know every model from that dead game. Nor do I care much for ported armies and subfactions.
I really want something original again like OBR, IDK OR KO.
>>96013300
Let it go grandpa, there are people playing AoS that are born after fantasy died.

>>96013306
pfft GW revenue increased by 37% when KB released.

>>96013332
the gw chorf models are from 1992, its basically a new army.

>>96013306
>vampires
Nighthaunt is the most popular Death army

>>96013249
It's probably going to be a logo for chaos dwarfs.

>>96013337
>GW revenue increased when [edition starter box]
how about you compare that to other launch boxes? and perhaps compare units sold instead of increase in revenue which is more indicative of the growth of the company as a whole due to all the recent moving parts and not really something specific to that release in particular

>>96013410
No, it's not, if anything it's just the only dead army that got a starter set, starter sets massively boost the sales of a faction, this is true every time, both fantasy, aos and 40k, and it has exclusively to do with how relatively cheap it is to build an army thanks to that.

I'm gonna level with you dudes. They're going to show off maybe 1-2 new hero models, maybe no new models at all like the last preview show. The "army" will be a new army of renown some intern is even now writing up because they forgot this was the 10th anniversary.

>>96013263
Because they have to actually go back and update 25 year old kits that are part of armies that existed since 1e instead of endlessly pumping out new armies

>still no warcry
>next bands for underworlds are rumored to be chorfs and kurnothi
so nothing for aos aside from chorfs

>>96013478
They will show off at bare minimum the Chorf armybox, retard.

>>96013543
>so nothing for aos aside from chorfs
They'll probably reveal NH and FEC as well, just to get them out of the way, Chorfs are the last thing on the AoS roadmap for this year.

>>96013221
where is this from

>>96013543
August will be Warcry or yknow it's just dead

>>96013543
>votann, eldar corsairs and 5 primaris lieutenants for 40k
>deathwatch vs necrons for kill team
>dogs of war for the old world
>custodes for horus heresy
>custodes for legio imperialis
>chorfs underworlds
>chorfs army set

>>96013332
Might be a hot take on my part, but KO are basically just "chorfs, but good guys".
I mean, God damn, their origin stories are basically the same, with the key difference being KO fucked off in airships instead of submitting to Hashut. This made both groups more pragmatic, and as a result, they have a wider range of tech than the regular dwarfs.

However, unlike the chorfs, KO apparently wasn't given the same level of forethought as to how that pragmatism effects their society. Case and point - KO still do stupid bullshit like the slayer oath, instead of more pragmatic (but still dangerous) infernal guard road to redemption chorfs offer.

>>96013602
>KO still do stupid bullshit like the slayer oath
no, they don't, the new units that got revealed aren't suicidal troops, but troops that lost their ship so they get employed by other ships, and troops that got a past fighting monsters and now specialise in fighting monsters.

>>96013593
Where did you get five primaris lieutenants from?

>>96013602
>KO still do stupid bullshit like the slayer oath
Where did you got this shit from?
Is st jsut because the new scrap guys have a ginger among them?

>>96013557
Their email newsletter

>>96013625
each of the C-tier marine chapters are getting one special character

>>96013619
>>96013631
Yes they do. It's mentioned in those godshit Drekki Flint novels. There are no explicitly KO-slayer models, mind you, but it is stated that dishonoured KO do fuck off and take the slayer oath.

In before ">books".
The fact that this shit isn't brought up in the battletome is a problem in and of itself.

>>96013753
Bullshit that contradicts the fact the slayer oath isn't even meant to fucking exist in AoS.
The writer fucked up, the battletome should not pick up on such errors.

>>96013753
>that this shit isn't brought up in the battletome
Because it's wrong. Black Library fucks up all the time.
Writer forgets Deepkin don't inherit their Akhelian status.
Writer forgets Kragnos can't speak english.
Etc.

>>96013753
citation needed or your just confusing the doomseeker with slayers.

>big hats meme lives on
4e is shit but at least the models are great

>>96013823
It's actually a cursed Native American totem made of several animlistic suclptures stacked on top of eachother

>watch Rob go through the IDK tome
>it's all nerfs
GW fucking hates my army, man.

>>96013926
>4E starts with indexes for every army
>They fucking suck
>The battletomes are even worse
There's something about 4E that just doesn't feel real to me, like it's all just a prank and James Workshop is going to popup any second now and shout "Ha Ha just kidding!"

>>96013940
>Make everything weaker
>"Oh sorry guys we are gonna fix it"
>Can't change scrolls though, I know we just make points cheaper
>You better buy another kit

I know that is probably not what's happening, but if there was intent behind it, what would they do differently?

>>96013926
>all nerfs
lmao retard

>>96013970
It's just elf players, any change is an immense nerf and that tournament win was promised to them 2000 years ago anyways.

>>96013985
IDK are the exception to "elf players" shit. Just like Grey Knights and Space Marines.

>>96013940
Yeah it's absurd because the Index was a thousand times better than 40k Indexes. And then the Tomes started coming out.

>>96014039
every single battletome has been a significant upgrade over their respective index (yes even orruks, git gud)
even battletomes with no new units like slaves performed much better after their book released

>>96013769
>Doomseekers
Fucking lorelet

>>96010966 (OP)
Soon

>>96013263
>>96013305
>>96013306
The most kino armies are the ones that they take a specific minor element from an old whfb faction and just blow it up into their own army. Gloomspite gitz are the best example od this, taking night goblins, squigs and trolls (and spiders ig), and forming a coherent faction out of them was pure soul.
Well, until gitmob, but that's already been discussed to death.

>>96014061
Who fucking cares about performance. The point is that Indexes were barebones but it was expected because they were indexes. They were supposed to actually give you stuff in the Tomes. Except when the tomes came out they were literally the same in terms of options and stuff. Compare it to 40k where armies got multiple detachments each with heroic traits, stratagems and abilities and the comparison is merciless. And that's ridiculous when it's not like the 40k codex are this trove of content compared to previous editions.
>But army of renowns and regiments of renowns
Those are bullshit and you know it

>>96014003
no they aren't, just another turbo fast army with bullshit rules. High damage, high shooting, can't be shot back, everything fights first, fuck off with your poor idk players bullshit.

>>96014156
the gitmob models still look great, there just aren't enough of them to be their own faction yet.

>>96014202
>High damage
With relatively low number of attacks. The most we can get is 18 on a unit of eels. Or 41 1D attacks on a brick of thralls. Chaos Warriors can get an eyewatering 81 attacks on a brick of 20 with a single toe on an objective and pledged to Khorne and they're exponentially better than Thralls.
>High Shooting
4 shots on a turtle, Sharks with 2 shots each, and Reavers with 21 12 inch shots. None in combat.
>can't be shot back
3rd ed rule. In 4e you can only get that if you bring the tidecaster and get the 3+ and are out of 12". No one's bringing tidecaster right now with the points budget/listbuilding as it is.
>everything fights first
On turn 3. Literally just come at us and hit us, man. We melt to mortals and ranged damage.
What do you play?

>>96014210
Don't get me wrong I like the gitmob models, they just don't really gel with the rest of the army aesthetically. I think they actually managed to tie them in decently fluffwise, with them hating the sun for chasing away the bad moon, but also respecting it for doing so because goblins are little shits. Pretty fun (although the whole absorbing hysh helmets is pretty dumb). But for me it doesn't really translate to the models that well. I mean, in all their fancy promo pics gitz are always in this dark, fungus filled cave, while gitmob come racing straight out of the monument valley, Arizona.
Oh, and lest we forget, those fucking prices.

>>96014245
>Points budget/ list building
Honestly it’s a bit less of a problem now than on launch.

>>96014245
NTA but you are being a bit disingenuous with your comparisons. 20 chaos warriors is 400 points. A reinforced unit of eels has 37 attacks, half of which are d3 damage. The turtle and shark ranged attacks may not be numerous, but they are all 3 damage with good attack profiles. IDK is a powerful army, but their players often seem to downplay them online.

>>96014325
>IDK is a powerful army, but their players often seem to downplay them online.
It's a very skill expressive army and the better the player, the better the army will perform. Most players are average or worse and thus will not be able to take nearly as much advantage of what the army offers. I think that's where that sentiment comes from. I consider myself a less than average player depsite my buds trying to talk me up and having pulled out some wins, but they're usually pretty close victories, rarely anything considered a stomp.
To me IDK do what they say on the tin and not much more. Actual "tricks" are few and far between or on units we'd usually not run because there's better options. Maybe the army will even out on winrates and shit, but I feel like it'll be the top players carrying that because it's only gotten more skill intensive.
Either way, getting a battletome should be the most exciting time for an army's respective playerbase but so far it feels like we're getting a crown put in. Sure, we might be alright later on but right now it just doesn't feel good.

>>96014445
>It's a very skill expressive army
uh huh only a yakunbturbobrain could possibly pilot spam eels followed by the tactical genius of spam sharks.

Is the Gitmob AoR any good or do they still use the bad moon?

If /aosg/ says it was nerfed then 1 month from now they will cry about it having 60% win rate

>>96014482
The skill expression comes in with the decisions you make on what to do and when with eel and shark spam. But go ahead and be my guest, just fling them forward and see what happens.

>>96013169
MY EMPIRE OF DIRT

i played my first game in the new GHB. the new battle tactics are so much more fun than the old ones, it is insane GW didnt do this earlier.

>>96013926
I hate your army too.
If you end up playing against a control freak playing IDK, which is usually the case, you always feel like he's just playing with himself while you're a retard who got tricked into wasting 3-4 hours

>>96014643
Play against me and you'll be like "damn, that's all your army does?" That's not counting how hard I can whiff my rolls.

can someone share new GHB?

>>96014174
these are definitely valid complaints

Hopefully the chorfs won't have too many mandatory dwarf-women, but I know they will be full of em.

>>96014860
>2025
>he STILL trusts GW

>>96014061
Tbh the realest doomer perspective is all my gaming group has gone from talking about AOS constantly to absolute silence after 6 months. These aren't subhumans who obsess over gender or what race is on what book cover. The game is dropping interest rapidly because it's got nothing exciting in the near future for actually playing.

July is a great month for celebrations! July 4th is Independence Day and July 3rd is the tenth anniversary of Warhammer Age of Sigmar. What better way to celebrate than by sharing the links to these little books

>>96015146
last 3 isnt even out yet son

>>96015146
>>96015207
Just kidding, you don't have to take it so seriously.
But if anyone has a link, it would be appreciated.

Why do vamps only have as many wounds as baseline humans? Blood Knights being 3 wounds is kinda sad. Sure they can heal, but they can't resurrect.

>>96015146
Have 4 of em.
https://gofile.io/d/fpWUhz

>>96015282
They have wards if it matters.

>>96013169
Pre ghb aos1 was such a blast and MP was probably the coolest narrative event gw has done in a while. MP gloomspite trailer is top tier flavour too
https://youtu.be/UJhyEHSh9DU?si=kcuEP2vX-PBuAG_h

>>96015314
A 6+ for being dead isn't much.

Beard looks at fish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FXxHGOz6OY

Only a little bit of stuff for AoS this time around

>>96015450
Why did they decide to do a turtle instead of a kraken or whale? I don't get it

>>96015450
Damn, the manifestation really is huge looking at it like that.
>>96015585
Because turtles are cool

Finished the rogue idol. I forgot to add grass tufts before pictures

>>96015585
Turtles are literally platforms, so it's more obvious to use one as a troop platform than a mollusc and whales are known for transporting people in their mouths, which would be hard to sculpt (while fiting multiple guys in)

>>96015651
This is well done anon, good job. It is a bit funny that a magical being made of animated stone would use a wooden shield to protect itself though.

>>96015836
I just couldn’t refuse to use it though when it test fitted it perfectly and looked great

>>96015836
>It is a bit funny that a magical being made of animated stone would use a wooden shield to protect itself though

You could say he's as dumb as a pile of rocks

>>96015985
You're getting deported

>>96015651
kino

>>96013300
As someone who used to have one of those, yes I do.
I wish I was a Zoomer, waited until I was older to get into fitness. I could have been absolutely jacked

>>96011473
We will simply never know everything, partially because the realms are all so preposterously big, and partially because GW doesn't exactly keep strict track of where stuff is, how big it is, and so on. Meaning there's always going to be plenty of vaguely defined in-between where you can add more stuff.
(And c'mon now, the Old World was tiny by comparison, but they never detailed every village, hamlet, orc camp and herdstone in it. The thought of filling in all of AoS is about as silly as thinking they'd ever fill in all of 40k.)

I hate waiting for texture paint to dry so much

>>96015651
oh hell yeah

>>96016172
Blow dryer

>>96015282
They can get back up

>>96016451
Deathly invocation targets deadwalkers or deathrattle. This is not TWW.

>>96013311
Mawtribes are the most popular?

Will chorfs even get a musician?

>>96015585
It's more like a mosasurus with a shell, a kraken would be pretty derivative

Ugh now people are going to start spamming NEW OCTOPUS MODEL TEASED??

>>96016738
Either go in with an eldritch hp love craft Dagon esque direction or go full on Hokusai and make the octopi rapists.

>>96016152
There's also no useful purpose to mapping literally everything out, people pretend that happened with WHF (rather than the broad strokes of the empire's shape and major relevant landmarks in it being sketched out over decades of evershifting maps) and they're revealing themselves as tourists when they do.

People, particularly WH fans coming in via 40k, get way too wiki brained about shit

>>96015443
It makes me so fucking mad that all these new underworld warbands DO have art of them like all the old ones did, but we're only getting to see it via shit like this. They don't even put it on the fucking packaging anymore

>>96016721
If it's a -zaur then where are his feathers and decorative air sacks chud?

>>96016697
Maybe

>>96015772
you can mount a platform on a shelled mollusc or the back of a whale no problem

>>96017185
not all -saur are dinosaurs

>>96017451
Nautilus is sideways and flying snail would be... you know what?

>>96017454
Yes, because they're all chickens. And gay. Jurasic Park 11: Tokio Drift told me that

>>96016697
What instrument best suits them?

>>96017485
Pipe organ, unironically

>>96017465
you can have straight shells too

>>96017505
That should be a guided missile not a troop transport

>>96016172
>paint is supposed to appear cracked
>won't know if it worked for several hours after painting

Hot Prediction: Royal Beastflayers will be in the new FEC spearhead in the hero slot. Crypt ghouls and/or horrors will be filler as either more serfs or more monstrous things

>>96017807
no underpants warbands?

>>96017809
Duke Crackhead and his goons were reprinted in the Revenants of the Realms box for UW 2.0.
Other UW band is more recent than the Warcry one, so i don't expect it

Hopefully 18th reveals mean that we will get new updated Crypt Ghouls and Stabbas/Shootas.

>>96017807
Warcry needs a whole warscroll rewrite in line with UW but it won't happen

>No generic warscroll for Mantrappers
So Spearhead is just like Underworlds with exclusive miniatures that are legends only for AoS? What kind of retardation incentivizes this approach?

>>96017858
nope

>>96017858
Why would they update stabas few months AFTER the Git releas?

>>96017876
>What kind of retardation incentivizes this approach?
The kind that wants to liquidize old stock.

>>96017882
Because it was all about sun gitz not night gitz so their turn now, and also that kit is the only old world kit remaining for goblins (trolls are not goblins so river ones do not count).

>>96017905
>Encourage stock shift by discouraging purchases
Galaxy brained

>>96017924
>buying figures for rules instead of because they're cool and you want them
Only this general could be so cretinous.

>>96017935
Yeah, post your collection of duplicate monopose ETB kits you bought to paint

>>96017858
>>96017882
I think my towfriends were talking about something like this, ghouls and gobbo models got teased in one of the arcane journals or some shit ?

>>96017950
If they're in an AJ then they're not AoS kits.

>>96017882
Why not?

>>96017955
That was nearly 3 years later, not 3 months

>>96017957
So?
GW routinely undermine battletomes

>>96017954
The idea is that aos gets new kits, and the current ones will get given to tow.
Would be a weird situation if both systems start making new models for the same units.

>>96017950
>ghouls and gobbo models got teased in one of the arcane journals
they weren't

>>96017982
Yeah that's why CoS lost all those kits.
If anything those figures may just be going byebye. TOW already has night goblins anyways so the claim that the existing AoS range will go there seems dubious to me.

>>96017950
That never happened, no.

Random tidbits of fluff for IDK. Some of it might be old idk
>in the Age of Myth there was an unsuccessful Namarti uprising in Ionrach led by a woman only known as the Voice of Truth
>Briomdar's Queen Ionne Gwynnar was once preeminent in all the enclaves, but for secret reasons she took the Septemmar, a conclave of her seven closest Akhelian advisors, to the edge of Hysh, where legend says they fight an unknown enemy, but will still appear in golden armor to aid IDK in need
>the fall of Aighmar in the Age of Chaos marked the discovery of the IDK by Archaon
>Fuethán's King Chaor Bórnassus scores legendary victories against the Goretide but becomes more bloodthirsty as he does so, eventually being swallowed by a blood-rift opened by a Khornate priest, and since then the Aqshan IDK tell the legend of the Wrathful King riding a flame-finned Deepmare and leaving a cloudy trail of gore behind him
>nomodels bond beasts mentioned: luminar fish trained to swim in geometric patterns, druilfish used to bore new sea caves, and fuiadon whose molten blood heats the undersea rift-forges
>Mor'phann has discovered how to recycle the souls of the long-dead into their newborn, but are keeping this a secret for fears of being accused of necromancy
>the two new Ikons represent broad philosophical dispositions in IDK society, essentially reason vs passion
>the Way of the Sea, Kin-Lavrai, emphasizes patience, enervation, and subterfuge, and has historically been dominant
>the Way of the Storm, Kin-Nadarr, would strike fast and hard, valuing decisive action over caution and deliberation, and this mindset has surged in the modern era, becoming preeminent in enclaves like Fuethán and Mallaneach, and giving fervent support to Volturnos
>Ikons of the Sea spend most of their time in meditation before the chorrileums but will sometimes go on quests for relics; their attunement lets them commune with spirits of the soul-reefs and pull sick moves like their ancestors used to

>>96018080

>Ikons of the Storm are usually grief-stricken loners who channel their passions into being vengeful water ninjas, always moving and near-impossible to predict because the Ikons themselves don't know what their next move will be, their wildness stirring the ethersea around them into a maelstrom of rage
>the IDK call the skaven skralaich and the Vermindoom the Ulur-Dhavra, meaning the Third Trauma
>the ocean floor was broken by manifestations of warpstone and Blight City
>at least three cities in Aqshy were destroyed from within: Dhummuna, Pelásh, Lan-Korói
>Fuethán lost a third of its Akkhelian strength fending off daemons attacking Mordgaile
>in desperation Volturnos let himself sink into Sarr Danoi, the deepest trench in Ghyran, to meet Mathaela
>Volturnos views Mathaela as less IDK and more a vessel for the oceans themselves
>Mathaela has had a vision, per their counsel Volturnos and many Isharann have petitioned Cythai souls to be used as fuel to create Incarnates of the Deep, the first step in a grand plan to awaken the oceans to fight for the IDK
>Mathaela also rises from the deep, announced by the wasting of Gutrot Spume's Drowned Fleet in the Battle of the Clotted Sound, saving the Dhom-hain colony of Ghadrac
>Mathaela believes Namarti represent the true destiny of the IDK and eventually their people will permanently return to the depths with no Akhelians or Isharann to boss them around
>and go figure, Mathaela also hates sunlight

>>96018084
>Namarti represent the true destiny of the IDK

>>96018084
>>96018120
I kind of like it as the ideology of a few renegades within the idoneth society, seems like a fairly good with fun potential.

>>96018121
yeah, but they're easily the worst designs of the range.

>>96018120
The shitty soulless mutant fuck up race?
Destined to be shitty fuck up soulless mutants?
No way.

>>96018120
>woman is wrong
no news here

>>96018120
They kinda are, just like filthy monstrous vampires are the true face of vampires and not human mimics

>>96018080
>>96018084
>>96018120
>namarti rebellion
>a future of only namarti
can namarti even live without the wizards shoving souls in them? can they do that process on their own? or do they plan on accepting that they'll live incredibly short lives?

>>96018203
Namarti don't survive infancy without a soul transplant

>>96018080
>Voice of Truth
sounds like a special character
>septemmar will appear in golden armor to aid IDK in need
black library squad of heroes?
>Fuethán's King Chaor Bórnassus, the bloodthirsty Wrathful King riding a flame-finned Deepmare and leaving a cloudy trail of gore behind him
should be an artifact or mount trait

>>96014061
Tournament FAGGOTS can't understand the main issue articulated here >>>>>96014174
Because they have no soul and are, at their heart, fag Vidya players.

>Seakons are surfer bros
>Stormkons are Linkin Park
I can roll with that.

>>96018084
Interesting lore, thanks. I appreciate them making Mathaela more of a murky, probably untrustworthy figure rather than the "always correct chosen one"

Little disappointed that the whole Cythai souls subplot was turned into something as boring as Incarnates, though.

>>96018084
>near-impossible to predict because the Ikons themselves don't know what their next move will be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDzpzYzp9HE

>>96018084
>meaning the Third Trauma
so the first was being born, the second was getting found out by nagash, and third was the rats?

>>96018290
>the second was getting found out by nagash
that also happened due to the rats, now that I think about it

>>96014245
> List building
If you are still trying to be low drop you are so far behind it's not even funny.

>>96018080
>Namarti uprising
Namarti aren't like slaves right? The real IDK waste their lives sustaining them do they not?

>>96017992
TOW are bound to get Stabbas, they've shown skull pass miniatures and releasing those are dependent on the associated full kit I would imagine.
Plus onboarding is probably an issue and a starter with contemporary kits fixes that.
AoS is set to squat Spiderfang and every Underworld's warband has featured new Stabba designs that fit the rest of the range which is otherwise AoS exclusive - literally the one kit that hasn't been updated
They'd just retire the older mould which is probably at the breaking point anyway

>>96013926
> Eels untouched
> New special tranny character both buffs eel strat and inexplicably is fast enough to keep up (despite being a foot hero and her lore is her being pro namarti, apparently)
> Lotann actually a wizard
> Aspect of the Sea anti save spell is easier to cast
No you 100% got buffs, but unfortunately they did literally nothing to open up different play styles for the army. All the namarti still suck.

>>96018305
They're second class citizens.

>>96014156
> Gitz
> A 'minor aspect' of an old fantasy army
It's literally the entire goblin part of the army excluding common goblins and including all the trolls. That's not minor, at all, and the only things really integrated together are the night goblins and the squigs (which were integrated together in fantasy).
Shut the fuck up your knowledge nothing faggot

>>96018305
>Namarti aren't like slaves right?
no, they're not like slaves, just they're just born with a debt they have to repay all their lives, have no rights or opportunities to live any life other than one of labour, and are treated as third class citizens relegated to the slums of their civilisation.
but noz they're not like slaves, don't let the collars fool you.

>>96018339
>it's literally the entire goblin part of the army excluding common goblins
Based retard

>>96018305
>Namarti aren't like slaves right?
To some they might as well be furniture

>>96018238
one of the real problems is that the current development team are fucking COWARDS and wont just make their fun rules like even their extremely conservative and safe hero builder the anvil of apotheosis legal for matched play, they tie it to path to glory which requires a tremendous amount of preamble, opponents permission, and "not in any official play setting" to get rolling, so they have effectively banished all of their potentially interesting features to the shadowrealm of modes nobody plays so they dont have to think about it when considering balance or army composition.

they seem like very nice people, and im sure they are passionate about the game in some respects, but the current design team is 100% not fit for purpose and their direction is going to kill the game dead.

even the armies of renown, which should serve as additional customization flourishes to your armies playstyle, strip out more features than they add, including key army traits and units from the roster, resulting in non functional almost completely unplayable and highly restricted lists which barely give you anything in return.

i love age of sigmar, i own 8 armies and i've played it for all 4 of its editions, but this new "no options, no features, strip everything and then give scraps back in bits and pieces" direction is such horrible game design, and insulting to the players. the fact that several of the scourge of ghyran features were to give people back a worse version of mount traits they already had in 3rd edition that were stripped away is just so slimy and gross

>>96018328
>>96018344
>>96018347
tbf my only exposure is shorts and soulslayer which featured true souls being protective and caring of namarti

>>96018359
I remember a quote from some IDK general, that he would let every human in the Realms die to save 1 Namarti, but he would let every Namarti die to save 1 Akhelian.

>>96018358
> Current edition is shit
Yes
> Designers are not up to task
Yes
> They 'seem like nice people'
Who give a fuck. They are not my friends and will never be my friends. I don't give a fuck if they jerk off the shill content creators, I wouldn't care if they were nasty grumpy fucks who beat their wives and children if they made a good product. They fucking don't, and their inadequacy effects the game I want to enjoy.

>>96018359
Opinions and attitudes may vary, but as a rule the Namarti caste has no formal power in most enclaves despite making up the overwhelming majority of the total population in all of them. Treating Namarti as equals of the Akhelians and Isharann is simply not done in most enclaves. That's not to say they can't be treated well, but not equal.

I suppose Court of the Blind King actually has an example of it even if it's a bit loose with its fidelity to the faction fluff. The MC is a based retard noble who somehow managed to reach adulthood without realizing that Namarti were actual thinking, feeling people like himself. He'd been attended by them as servants his whole life, he'd been in orgies with them, he'd hurt them for fun, but he's shocked that they're even capable of free thinking.

Contrast to some of his fellow Akhelian nobles from a different settlement, who have a Namarti daughter who they've treated as a princess and given all the familial love one would expect that a doting parent would give their child. The caste system is still what it is, but she is their child and they treasure her.

>>96018358
dude they got rid of swords or spears, were a long way from pen and paper rpg shit coming back in list building.

>>96018378
your typical GA order is stormcast and 10 other races barely distinguishable from chaos quote.

>>96018487
Azyrite man's burden

>>96018385
>Who give a fuck.
> I wouldn't care if they were nasty grumpy fucks who beat their wives and children

that is the thinking of a child or a malignant narcissist. you should want competent AND good people to be the heads of the game, it is equally important that they are at least decent people especially when they are being shown as presenters for frequent community videos like edition launches and meta watches

i understand we're all hot under the collar about the games direction and this is the kind of edgy highschool rhetoric that some see as acceptable because its 4chan, the internet equivalent of a bathroom stall wall, but it should be important to you that the game is designed well and that the designers are good people. if family abuse is within your ethical code as long as the product is good, i thumb my nose at you.

>>96018480
>were a long way from pen and paper rpg shit coming back in list building.

thats the thing though, the pen and paper RPG character building is already there. they have already designed it, it is in the current battletomes. they already went through the trouble of designing the anvil of apotheosis where you get a blank slate character and you can choose their weapons, armor, mount, powers, spellcasting, etc they've already done all of the legwork to design it, the cowardly designers just dont want to disrupt the competitive scene with difficult to balance customization or have to worry about balancing that many options in their quarterly updates, so they relegate it to a game mode absolutely nobody can be arsed to play

>>96018326
>New special tranny character both buffs eel strat and inexplicably is fast enough to keep up (despite being a foot hero and her lore is her being pro namarti, apparently)
This is part that's actually baffling, desu.

>>96018552
Somebody at gw's upper management most really fucking love eels

>>96018521
What a deranged take I would expect from Reddit. They are not the moral arbiter or you, nor vice versa. If they’re committing crimes then it’s the state’s job to punish that. The relationship you have with them is that of customer and seller, nothing more. Seeing more to that is parasocial behavior and childish naïveté. Not to mention of course that nobody is perfect and the standards of what is ‘good’ are highly subjective and change over time

>>96018547
The game is casually focused in design, claiming its comp focused is just you looking for a boogeyman.

>>96018563
good, they shouldn't buff the shitty namarti no one but weirdos care about.

>>96018358
This is just speculation on my part, but my suspicion is that executives at GW have recognized that a lot of the interest in Warhammer is generated by its massive community of hobbyists, players, and nerds rather than by anything GW does. And the way GW can influence that would be to organize events, provide third parties with the tools to organize events per official guidelines, and lower the bar of entry for newcomers to join the greater community in organized events. Tournament players and competition painters can reasonably be expected to be more loyal customers than people who only engage with Warhammer from within their own little bubble, because, again, interest is community-driven.

In this case it also makes sense for the 40k and AoS teams to do what they're doing. There might be a mandate on them, or at least a clear expectation, to write the rules with event-interaction in mind. Since both games have developed along a trajectory of simplification for the past few editions, I figure it makes sense that these are directions given to the teams from above, not something they came up with and decided on their own.

Just bought a Lumineth army

>>96018585
Why do you hate Namarti? They're cute.

>>96018604
>hungary
Ew

>>96018604
man just imagine if there were a lumie box with 7 kits for $150 us.

>>96018652

Nope not Hungary

>>96018660
I know right? This is a great deal.

>>96018487
>10 other races barely distinguishable from chaos
it's just the elves, which should be a separate grand alliance anyway

>>96018080
>>the fall of Aighmar in the Age of Chaos marked the discovery of the IDK by Archaon
That's this place btw

>>96018790
Where's this from? Kraken island and angler whale are cool

>>96018718
>blaming elfs when Fyreslayers openly worked for Chaos

>>96018844
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/dybbWA

>>96018851
they largely retconned the extent they did so and condemned it heavily.
elves commit warcrimes against the forces of order every other tuesday.

>>96018885
Yes yes, they said they were sorry for that.
And then they instanty bertayed Sigmar's forces in Lethis after Kurdos paid them more.
And then they said they were sorry for that.

>>96018851
GW have basically discarded the idea they'd ever fight for chaos at this point but death/destruction are fair game
Censored slop

>Mathaela had forgotten how much the light hurt. The Oracle of the Abyss had never spent much time roaming the surface lands, even before taking up guardianship of the Sarr Danoi at the deepest point of the ocean. Their eyes stung as if pierced by white-hot needles.

>‘We were never meant to live in the sun,’ Mathaela muttered.

>Their Namarti companions stared blankly back. The Oracle knew that the Akhelians and even their own Isharann peers found the soul-grafted ones unsettling, with their smooth, eyeless faces and dull, taciturn manner. No Idoneth lord would ever admit it, but the alien nature of the Namarti frightened them.

>Mathaela, however, had seen true horror. They had glimpsed things that would send most mortals mad: squamous, diamond-eyed monstrosities that squatted in temples to forgotten gods; entities so vast that if they were to wake, the realms themselves would be rent asunder; alien, formless things that sang and danced and capered in the blackness of the abyssal depths.

>No, the Namarti were not monsters.

>‘You are the true spawn of Mathlann,’ Mathaela said. ‘You are the precursors of the fate my kind have struggled so hard to deny all these long years. One day, perhaps, we will release ourselves from the fear that governs us. We will abandon our hubris and accept what we truly are. We will descend, never again to feel the burn of this hateful light.’

>The lead Namarti cocked his head, blank face staring fixedly at the Oracle.

>‘When that time comes, you will bow to Akhelian and Isharann no more,’ Mathaela whispered. ‘But before it does, there are a great many things that must be accomplished. Many terrible sacrifices must be made. Will you surrender yourself to this tide? Will you aid me?’

>‘We shall,’ said the Namarti, the simultaneity of their voices making an eerie catechism of the words.

>>96018919
It was more
>didn't pay them
WHF Dwarfs would exterminate an entire town and the bloodline of it's count for that. There's a novel that's just that, only averted by the correction of the insult

>>96018945
I don't get it, is she pro-fishmen or anti-fishmen? are namarti closer to the fishmen somehow?

>>96018973
Pro fucking off to the bottom of the ocean and staying there.

>>96018982
that doesn't answer my doubts

>>96018576
That's retarded. If you're a seller and I think you're an arsehole then I'll buy from someone else. And if enough people do that you might even consider being less of an arsehole in order to keep at least some business.
That's how economic incentives work and is literally how (non-monopolistic) businesses are influenced.

>>96019024
>And if enough people do that
that's not going to happen

>>96018945
>Our future is blind, half-souled cripples
Truly the delusions of an idiot shut-in. Cool that they present a different viewpoint in IDK society, but they’ve glossed over one tiny, insignificant detail. Unless Namarti develop magical capabilities, Isharann and Akhelians hold the keys because they could just refuse to infuse Namarti with souls and let them die until a docile generation of Namarti comes about.

>>96019104
>Unless Namarti develop magical capabilities
Yeah, magic is unheard of in this setting

>>96018945
What a cool model, I sure hope she buffs thalls like her lore would suggest

>>96019133
Well, Namarti with magical skill are.

They are going to remove chaos cultists from the game aren’t they

>>96018919
>fyreslayers out
>chaos dwarves in
Pure coincidence

>>96018945
Is there a lore reason she's being referred as a they or is it just modern gender faggotry

>>96019315
take a wild guess

>>96016172
Texture paint looks like shit vs traditional basing

>Neyath sensed the big fish a moment before it attacked. It was beneath her, buried in the sand, and if she had been forced to rely upon crude eyesight, its circular, grinding maw would have been fixed on her left leg before she had even noticed it.

>Instead, she felt the voltaic thrum of its muscles tightening, and the subtle shift in water pressure was like a soft breeze on her skin.

>‘It's a dhyr'vasc!’ the Thrall cried, hurling herself away just as the beast's winding body arched up at her, trying to enclose her in its rough coils. The words were carried through the water by the magic of the ethersea. They were not for the benefit of her fellow Namarti, who were already scattering, bringing lanmari blades and coralcraft bows to bear.

>The warning was for Thrallmaster Iyuden, who reacted just a fraction slower than his charges. The Namarti could have left him to perish, had they wished it. He was a skilled warrior, more than capable of cutting down half a dozen of them, but he did not know the ways of the kelp-forests nearly as well as they, and he had been caught off-guard. The dhyr'vasc was on him.

>>96019104
Presumably it implies that she knows of another path they can take, one that allows them to live by embracing their nature as soulless monsters instead of fighting against it.

Or maybe it's all just fishman propaganda. Keep in mind that the Deepkin in canon initially fought a war with fishlike abominations so horrific that their racial memory was mind-wiped afterwards.

>>96019376
>But he was bearable enough, for a brightsoul, and if he perished, the Akhelians would only send another.

>Neyath plunged her lanmari into the mass of the predator, feeling the shock run up her arms as its wave-like blade punched through cartilage and meat. She sensed the Thrallmaster's blood in the water, but only a small burst compared to the torrents now gushing from the dhyr'vasc. It wriggled and thrashed, then it beat its twin tails and fled, tearing itself free of her weapon and darting for the cover of the nearest kelp-pods.

>Iyuden cursed, and she could see the faint outline of his veins in the shifting patterns of her vision, pulsing with nervous energy. She could sense the Thrallmaster's eyes on her.

>‘You saved my skin there,’ he said, and his voice sounded strange until she realised he was laughing. ‘I'll not forget it, Thrall. By the Nine Currents, that thing was fast.’

>‘Neyath,’ she said, tonelessly. ‘My name is Neyath.’

>>96019375
It's the same shit

>>96019315
If you ever have to ask that question in regards to contemporary products, it’s always the faggotry.

>>96019375
Shat do you mean by traditional basing, just out of curiosity? Painted sand?

>>96019391
No it’s not. Gravel+grass tufts looks fantastic. Hell even just a sand layer looks way better than ugly as sin texture paint. It’s one of those modern innovations that is far worse than the original method but easier so people still do it.

>>96019406
You can't get every type off effect with grass tuffs and your cat's littebox. Some more exotic textures need a more specialized tool

>>96019422
I get it, you and every hobbyist who has joined the hobby in the era of texture paint simply needs to make your bases looks bad to be lore accurate in a way that only texture paint can achieve.

>>96019406
sand + glue is no different from sentiment suspended in glue
What is texture paste made from?

>>96019265
The Wardens of the Chorrileum AoR is basically that since it specifically excludes all the mounted Akhelian units and has spells that favor Namarti.

>>96019375
nah, i use texture paint and i get a pretty convincing base out of it. AK terrain texture pastes are significantly higher quality than the citadel ones and like 1/10th the price per volume. not sure how they stack up next to army painters, but AK has a better variety of textures.

>>96019433
post models

>>96019450
I retract my comment. That looks fantastic. I thought you meant the ugly as sin games workshop texture bases I see on my opponents 40K armies 90% of the time. Where it looks like someone’s cracked painted over jizz on a base

>>96019459
NTA but both texture pastes and sand look bland and boring if you just wash and drybrush them. I think of both as a first step that you build on top of

>>96019485
if you take a texture paste and then mash some dill or another similar herb into it, it gives it a much more natural look of mud with trampled vegetation, small kitchen herbs convincingly resemble things like hay, straw and reeds appropriate for 28mm scale

Smaller than i expected

If Warcry wasn't dead we'd have
>Pestigors
>Kurnothi infantry and centaurs
>Refreshed Stabbas/Shootas with jim henson extras
>Dispossessed as a basis for expansion
>Chorfs earlier and with a non-unique non-legends kit
>and more

>>96019024
You are mixing up being an asshole on the job and being an asshole on private

>>96019446
>You army ability is that you can't play your best piece until later in the game

Me and my GF bought the AOS starter set with 5 liberators and 20 skaven. Any tips? We are only gonna be playing agaisnt eachother and I have super limited knowledge of tabletop games but love Warhammer.

Really wish oldworld had a starter set desu

>>96019991
Do you want to expand the armies in the starter or pivot to others while you still don't have much?

>>96019996
Ideally I get her into the concept of tabletop games then pivot to old world or another wargame and or warband game if controlling armies is to hard for her. She did not want the warband skirmish AOS game that had cards but IDK how she will feel with normal warband games.


the most important thing to her is cute girls. if an army has cute girls or figures she will not compalin

>>96020025
maybe you should try some cutesy anime shit for brainlets instead.

>>96020025
Seraphon and sylvaneth are the designated gf factions in aos. Women tend to like more nature-y stuff, apparently tyranids are popular among women in 40k for the same reason.

If your gf doesn't like controlling armies, I doubt she'll enjoy old world, it's much crunchier and about positioning your ranks etc. Look into either mordheim or warcry if you want a more skirmish-like experience.

>>96020066
>Seraphon and sylvaneth are the designated gf factions in aos
those are my 2 armies and I'm not a girl, what does this mean

>>96020105
All squers are rectangles

>>96019827
>>Kurnothi infantry
We already have that.

>>96020025
aos is a lot more representitive when it comes to female minis and armies, especially amongst the elfs. old world is much more curmudgeonly historical and traditional fantasy armies of all men so i think you'd have a rougher time finding a good fit there.

for aos, depending on your budget, the best entry point is probably spearhead. spearheads are small armies in a box, it is a preconstructed format where you dont have to worry about list building or too many options, you just play the contents of the box in small 1v1 games that take about an hour to resolve. you can get that down to 45 minutes or even a half hour if you both really learn the rules well but an hour is more realistic. the game is played on a smaller foldout board so its more easy to play on a kitchen table sized space if you need to, its about 2 feet wide.

as far as paints go, i would recommend proacryl, warpaint fanatic, 2 thin coats, vallejo, or AK brands. i would generally not recommend citadel brand as it tends to have terrible consistency issues and its pots dont seal well, i would avoid army painter non-warpaint fanatic brand as its just bad paint. check youtube for painting tutorials, there are a ton of intro tutorials these days. i would avoid contrast workflows to start as they are sort of a beginner trap, with all sorts of unexpected pitfalls and difficulties due to the translucent nature of the paint.

>>96019827
no, we really wouldn't

>Mathaela, Oracle of the Abyss, is mysterious and terrifying
>making them ideal assassins

GW, I'm begging you. Is Mathaela a name or a title? is this a unique character or not?

>>96020366

They are a unique character

>>96020366
it's a single unique character

>>96020441
>>96020445
OK it's a unique character, nob-binary in the lore, but the copy writer just forgot that they were using the singular they partway through.

Classic GW quality

Honest opinions on vampires?

>>96020469
Probably a jewish stereotype based on the fact they unironically use Christian blood in rituals

>>96020469
I like the Necromancery angle better, if I could run it was a Necromancer with his army of reanimated corpses I'd be way more tempted to build one
>>96020481
Neither Jews nor Christians exist in AoS. Their weakling god would easily be dominated by Morathi

>>96020492
>Neither Jews nor Christians exist in AoS
Doesn't change my opinion on vampires

>>96020441
The unique character has titties

>>96020469
who giant lady in middle?

>>96020523
Lauka Vai conversion.

NGL I'm always a little disgusted at the cowards who refuse to admit that the monstrous centaur form is hot

>>96020545
Anon who posted image here, I just like the idea of a 9 foot tall vampire lady in full armor.

I saved the centaur half to make a spookychained up monster.

>>96019786
>>96020469
>>96020545
>the state of AoS models
TOW won

>>96020517
So do you mate

>>96019786
>that gap
Jesus that's bad

>>96020633
Fat titties not girl titties

>>96020620
>TOW won
If you call that resin atrocities "win" then glad for you mate...

>>96020545
I really like the concept but I don't think they 100% nailed the execution. Maybe it's the pose, but I feel like it's just a tint bit...off. Haven't seen the model in person though, that can make a big difference.

>>96013169
Anyone remember Ben?

>>96020751
>yfw GW used his fridge pics on their webstore for a while

>>96020469
I think they suck

>>96020620
Take your console war bullshit somewhere else, you fucking sperg

>>96020492
>I like the Necromancery angle better, if I could run it was a Necromancer with his army of reanimated corpses I'd be way more tempted to build one

You can but it would be limited. Take a necromancer and a wight king for heroes, then use zombies, skeletons, and dire wolves as your forces.

>>96020931
suck what uwu

>>96020469
in general not fighty or powerful enough, especially the on foot guys. beast radukar almost lives up to what vampires should be, but vampires should be knocking basic troops aside like its a koei game, the legions of undead should move and roil at their whim with intensely powerful magic, and they should also be exceedingly rare.

no vampire, even a basic foot vampire, should be fewer than 200 points and should be a light of eltharion/sigvald level combatant

that said, the entire undead army should also fall apart the moment its vampires are slain. the loss of a vampire should send shockwaves of disarray through the undead hordes, causing skeletons to crumble, zombies to go feral and turn on their masters, wolves and bats to scatter into the night

>>96020469
Now, don't quote me on this, but I THINK they might be vampires.

>>96021118
Great concept, but it honestly doesn't sound that fun to play or play against

>>96021300
thats how they played for like 20 years straight. age of sigmar is just historically shit at writing actual good heroes below 500pts

>>96019827
Soon Underworlds will die too :D (I hope GWS also kills Killteam)
>>96020469
They used to be hot, now they are all hags

Is the deathrattle spearhead ever coming out as its own box or what's going on with that ?
>>96019827
>pestigors
I seem to remember people saying the tga rumourmongers hinted at pestigors a few months ago, who knows, maybe they'll turn up.

>>96020172
Don't get your GF to get into DoK or she will start pegging you

>>96021369
That would be a huge spearhead.

>another they/them character
Sigh. GW just doesn't care, do they.

>>96021520
I think at 36 it would be the most models, although the gitz one comes close at 34. In terms of discount it would be pretty in line with the most of of the other boxes, no ?

>>96021594
the discount on it sucks, one of the lowest.

Been a productive day, built 2 units of jade shield guys (aka vanari auralan wardens) and 1 unit 8f 2 hander guys (aka vanari bladelords)

>>96020620
>TWO won

In what dimension? You only have 5 good resin models, the rest are ugly finecast atrocities. Stop being delusional. Keep buying your Garbage Pail Kids armies 4 times the price

>>96021653
Shit you're right, only like a 30% discount which isn't great compared to most spearheads. I guess the wight king being dirt cheap (relative to other characters) is to "blame"
>>96021675
>polearm guys proxied with swords
>sword guys proxied with polearms
I mean i get why you did it but it triggers my autism

>>96021675
I now understand what 30k people feel when they see someone throw 40k Primaris models in their game.

I sincerely hope you at least have a story for you dudes.

NEW THREAD
>>96021832
>>96021832
>>96021832
NEW THREAD

>>96021675
They look so nice on circles.

>>96021333
>thats how they played for like 20 years straight
And we're they fun to play or play against? Because the two things are completely unrelated.