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>>Previous Thread:
>>96008823

>Thread Question:
What army has the best lore?

>>96014798 (OP)
>TQ
Space Marines.

Lieutenant Titus model from the Space Marine board game painted as a Blood Raven.

>>96014829
>still has the ultra icon
I guess that's lore accurate

>>96014838
Yeah I don't trust myself to be able to scrape away small details like that without fucking up the model, so I just left it.

>>96014838
It's a just a "gift" from the Ultramarines. :)

>>96014838
an honor granted to him for serving in the indomitus crusade, clearly

Hadrian... I miss you come back

>>96014829
How did you get that nice chalky/sandpaper finish?

>>96014942
primer dried grainy I'd assume

>>96014798 (OP)
>TQ
Space Marines

>>96014838
its a horse shoe to catch good luck and loot.

>use blood drops instead of numerals to denote company designation
>everyone but the greenhorn 10th company has the drops in the wrong colors
Are they retarded? Blood is red. They call themselves the blood angels, they should know this.

>>96015010
Xenos have different blood colors

>>96015010
Maybe they represent the four humors (blood, phlegm, yellow bile, and black bile)?

>>96015036
You'll have to make up an extra humor because there are five colorations, not four.

>TQ
Genestealer Cults, others are not even close.

>>96015056
The 5th humor is the BA. Because they're a joke.

>>96015056
5th humor is crowd work

>>96015085
What's their tax policy?

>>96015094
Your entire body mass when the time comes in return of constant plapping the magussy

>>96014942
Nta but that's a symptom of priming in high humidity usually

>rumors is a Deathwatch Kill Team may actually be happening
Insane it’s taken them this long. If not for the total lack of support when I started collecting I would have done Deathwatch for my first army, I hope the rumor isn’t a bust.

>>96015276
>also rumour they’re being folded into IA
All tens of Agents players jumping for joy

It’s baffling agents don’t have an army rule. Even knights get one.

>>96015323
It's baffling that killa kans don't have baggy jeans and cools sneakers

>>96015323
agents not having an army rule makes sense thematically though

>>96015323
agents aren't supposed to be a real army and are just a book so gw can say "Fine, here are the rules!" for a bunch of models they use for lore purposes.

I managed to print my chapter symbol curved without the entire pad so noe I can use the Leviathan terminators with custom shoulder pad symbols.

Fact: Raven Guard are the coolest instance of corvid-themed space marines.

>>96015484
There's others?

>>96015468
Counterpoint: both 3rd edition inquisition codexes.

>>96015482
hell yeah

>>96015484
blood ravens are cooler

>>96015512
rolled into GK

>>96014798 (OP)

Do you feel it yet?

>>96015564
motherfucker looks like he could get a heart attack any second. disgusting

>>96014798 (OP)
>What army has the best lore?
The next destiny army that will come to 40k.

>>96015484
>corvid-themed space marines.
How much competition is there for this spot? IS there some chapter who specializes in stabbing people with their beaks?

>>96015574
Vexcrons, Elikorsairs, or Krillian Wardogs?

>>96015468
>>96015512
My take is that the Inquisition should be its own army book, BUT it has only a small selection of unique units and its strength is that it can pull in units from any other Imperial faction depending on what Ordo you run and use SOME of the more friendly xenos in certain lists.
INQUISITION SOUP

>>96015582
See >>96015574

>>96015641
Good point. The next destiny army will be row themed space marines who peck their enemies to deaht.

>>96015574
Oldcrons are coming back and being more cancerous than ever?

>>96015623
That'd be cool and smart way to do it. However, this is GW we talk about. They don't do smarts.

>>96015692
They don't do quality either...

>10 intercessors fire 40 shots
Is there a better space marine gun line unit?

>>96015710
Design team really saw this compared with the old one and went
>yeah, its good, release it

>>96015691
As longas they are destiny themed oldcrons

I actually wouldn't mind if nuSquats were more Destiny weirdly.

Is there a go to bodyguard unit for a Gravis Captain? The datasheet seems beefy enough to run around on his own, but bodyguards would make him beefier.

>>96015731
You run him with Artificer armour as a solo dude

>>96015710
I've no idea what GW's beef with the humble small flyer stand is, because it works just fine without comrpomising the model sculpt. It's probably something like the american airlines single olive by not using 2 types of plastic.

For the flying bases that I use on things like Venoms, am I supposed to be basing those? Or just raw plastic?

>>96015719
Many such cases. I don't know how they keep doing it.

>>96015759
Champion would make a better Chaplain model.

>>96015710
I finally realized why I hate this piece of shit. It's the proportions that are all fucked while being plain as fuck, all of which just reminds me of that one artist who draws marines with really small heads.

>>96015759
His pose looks so off, what the hell

>>96015759
Sang priest and champ are still decent imo.

>>96015738
They could also just sculpt it in such a way that you can either use a flight stand or let it attach to a piece of scenery. It would only take 1 or 2 optional parts and the inclusion of a flight stand.

>>96015768
The Priest is fine in a vacuum, but my god they could have given him at least half of the decoration of the old one. Arguably the worst thing about it is that with the old Priest and the first born upgrade kit both being OOP, there's no way to actually get a cup in the hand from GW anymore.
The EC pisses me off for a lot of reasons
>cloth is too long and he would step on it (GW keeps doing this with many models since)
>presenting the face of the sword instead of the blade, looks more like show and tell and not heralding a charge
>leather straps and rivets make it look like a fucked up hodge-podge of medieval knight plate, not futuristic power armor
>laurel flying up off his head
"dynamic posing" for its own sake makes it look more awkward than the old one
>"Imperator Lux", when literally everything else in all other media still has it as "Imperator Rex"
>Stormcast ass belt and lantern
>>96015765
The power of Christ compels you!

>>96015564
I legitimately thought that was a photoshopped fat JD Vance for a second with how rotund that face is.

>>96015795
>"dynamic posing"
It's kinda funny that marines seem to suffer the most from this. Take the new eldar models, they all have those but not a single mini looks as awkward as, say, jump pack intercessors. You'd think they'd put more effort into their poster boys lol

Anyone got a link for the white dwarf missions for 40K? Bunker have been doing custom ones me and a buddy want to do a little campaign.

>>96015767
tactical rock not big enough, holds the sword in a retarded way, but what bugs me most is the laurels being so high up instead of resting on the helmet brow

>>96015804
They can't seem to do anything right with Marine posing most of the time. Old Sanguinor looks like an angel descending from heaven, looking up in a kind of religious ecstasy. It looks like it's descending from heaven and reads like it. The new one, which is trying to emulate the old, just looks like it's looking dead ahead in a T-pose while it Doc Ocks its way across the battlefield.
All they had to do was copy it 1-to-1 and slightly upscale the proportions in CAD and they couldn't even manage that.

Are Missile Launchers good for Imperial Guard? Any edition. Im making a Steel Legion army, and I dont feel like making a shit tonne of HWTs and I dont feel like making weird customized magnetizing jobs either.
I jsut want Heavy Bolter Teams and Missile Launcher Teams.

>>96015564
That clown hat in the announcement has me huffing hopium for a harlequin reveal to go with Lady Malys

>>96015849
Madrobotminiatures has not!Steel Legion models.
You may need to get a sanding sponge to remove the one headed eagle logo he puts on their helmets though.
They're also in resin but that's third party in general.

>>96015824
You could fix that without any effort

>>96015902
Don't even need to snip it, just fix it before you glue it.

Very common issue for tons of retards to complain about the most solvable "problems" with models. It's your model! You have to build it! So build it the way you want.

That said, some of the other ones posted are pretty disappointing. The sang guard lacking wings especially

Where is my Exalted Champion?
Is he safe? Is he alright?

>>96015902
The point for me is that the bad design choices are there and it could have been a better model right out of the box without them. If I were to build this model in the way I want it I'd need to
>fix the laurel
>file off all the stupid leather rivets
>cut and resculpt the cloth to not be so fucking long
>cut and spin the blade 90 degrees
>somehow get rid of the belt
At that point I may as well kitbash my own whole version out of an Assault Int box or something.

>>96015713
Tactical squads in 30k

>>96015852
It's a killteam

>>96015767
I think he looks cooler than the old one.

I wish tactical rocks and pipes weren't a thing because getting another box would mean they're gonna look the same.
>>96015713
Do you keep 5 bolters or field them with alternate weapons like Grenade launchers? 4 attacks are just too good to have.

>>96014798 (OP)
>TQ
Imperial Guard

poor mans grimaldus. time to get her painted

>>96016014
>her
vgh, the woke mob continues to erase the VVHITE man and worship the tranny
i cannot wait until based god king trump gases you in the epic and red pilled alligator alcatraz

>>96015989
That doubles the amount of infantry Harlequins get
We have 8 units and 4 of those are characters, a single new unit is game changing

>Harlequins models
holy shit Drukhari's wager might be playable

Can space marines (regular and chaos) shape the galaxy to their will or is their own heart another type of clay

>>96015741
either is fine, I just leave them clear

Imagine calling GW's Warhammer 40k an expensive waste of money and then one day later burning up $400 worth of fireworks in under an hour without even waiting for dark.

>>96016147
"You forgot to attach the gigachad image."

>>96016079
Harlequins, Corsairs, and Drukhari releases back to back are going to make them very happy indeed I sure. Probably happier than the marine fans with their subfaction lieutenants.

>>96016156
I play both Marines and Drukhari so all the more for me

>>96016165
Nice. Hope you get everything you're hoping for. Should be an exciting next few months, unless they kick the DE stuff to January or something.

>>96014798 (OP)
I like orks :D

>>96016212
I like men

>>96016027
>god king trump
IT IS GOD EMPEROR TRVMP YOV VNIRONIC PRONOVN VSER

Angsty lad #5 for the kill team got finished today, and I'm starting on the Terminators for the collage.

I just remembered Darth Nihilus from KOTOR.
GW changed Malekith's name to Malerion to Warhammer Fantasy. Probably the biggest motivator was the worry of a lawsuit by the Mouse.

So how long until GW changes the Warhammer 40k Dark Imperium's high gothic name being Imperium Nihilus to something else out of fear of Mouse throwing an army of lawyers at GW?

>>96016250
Nihilus is faux Latin. They're not infringing on the character but having a sector with the same name.
Malekith being the king of the dark elves and having similar motivation and character to a copyrighted comic book character by the same name who is also king of the dark elves is a hell of a lot better reason to try to create some distance between the two, even if they're functionally both Elric rip-offs.

how many of you just count bolt pistols as "bolters" for the sake of aesthetic? id imagine there arent gonna be a lot of people seething about it if i ever took it to the table , there are a number of CSMs with pistols i count as bolters because there are some poses i think look cool that way

>>96016274
Sounds lik a marine problem.

>>96016270
That's a bit fairer then anon.

>they're functionally both Elric Rip-offs
Michael Moorcock (very unfortunate name) is another source of lore inspiration GW stole from along with Dune, and 2000AD? What other sources are there?

>>96016274
Wysiwyg is for those who can't rotate an apple in their mind

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96016309
Dark eldar more like fart smelldar lmaooo

>>96016222
God I hate this

>>96016293
Foundation is another big one if you've never read much Asimov. And then obviously a bunch of 80s pop schlock Starship Troopers, Aliens, Terminator, Predator, RoboCop, Judge Dredd, Nemesis the Warlock, etc.

>>96016318
<3

>>96016274
There is only one guy who tries to WYSIWYG at my lgs and he might be unironically on the spectrum.
Nobody gives a shit unless you are specifically trying to be confusing by running proxies as 50/50.

SEE KATHY GRIFFIN THREAD IN CATALOG

>>96016274
I just think it's lazy and consider all people that try to minmax loadouts as waacfags. If you were just a casual modelsfag you wouldn't care if they had pistols or whatever

>>96016320
>I hate this
You'd love it if it was your favorite political figure.
But really to me the picture is example of how propaganda makers make those they don't like end up looking badass.
Has such a repeating pattern gotten meme'd yet?

I knew about 40k before the 2016 memes but really got into 40k after seeing a lot of Trump as God Emperor and decided to check it out and got hooked.

>>96016352
Wat

>>96016352
>>96016361
Someone made a thread with Kathy Griffin going no makeup and natural hair looking like a 1930s depiction of a witch without the tall wizard hat.
>Any art/shoop fags wanna turn Kathy Griffin into a drukhari haemonculus?

>>96016357
>You'd love it if it was your favorite political figure
Nta but it is of my favorite political figure and I still hate it.

>>96016365
I refuse to believe that picture is real what in the fuck

>>96016381
It is called aging nigga.
Like we had a whole meme event called "twinkdeath."
Basically the incel community's "the wall" slang but for men if I recall correctly.

Anyways I'm not the OP who made that Warhammer 40k thread request to photoshop Kathy Griffin as a Dark Eldar wych.
Here's the thread if you don't mind losing sleep.
>>96016307

>>96016357
I don't want to see any real life person portrayed as the Emperor. Shit's cringe.

>>96016357
>you'd love it if it was your favorite political figure
No, because I’m not some mouth breathing retard who is missing their sovl to clap at a glorified celebrity. No matter their position or stance irl. It’s no better than ai slop or that mtv shit.

>>96016293
>moorcock
middle and high school mustve been hell

>>96016408
>Like we had a whole meme event called "twinkdeath."
>Basically the incel community's "the wall" slang but for men if I recall correctly
Retard

>>96016293
>What other sources are there?
short answer basically anything that Rick Priestley read before making 40k Rogue Trader, and to a lesser extant anything that anyone else involved read too. Most famously Bryan Ansell with Michael Moorcock and Paradise Lost the depiction of Chaos.

https://realmofchaos80s.blogspot.com/2014/06/acceptable-in-80s-first-warhammer-novels.html

>Rick Priestley: Michael Moorcock - of which there was a great deal about in the 70s! Robert E Howard - well specifically the Conan stories which were extended and added to by L Sprague de Camp. Tolkien - The Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit. Those are the most influential ones really - though there was a lot of fantasy about. Dune and 2000AD - well that's 40K really - to which you have to add Dr Who, Blakes 7, Star Trek, Star Wars and such like - Heavy Metal magazine had some good stuff in it in the day. James Branch Cabell - well that's very Bryan - if we're going down that route I'd put Lord Dunsany ahead of JBC - both very enjoyable but not really very Warhammer (though Dunsany Time and the Gods has some very Warhammerish/sub-Moorcock elements to it). I suspect Bored of the Rings was a bigger influence than any of the more cerebral fiction - nailed Halfings I think!

Whats cooler a kill tank or death rolla battle fortress
I've got a bunch of random vehicle parts and I'm going to try build an ork superheavy

>>96016576
>kill tank or death rolla battle fortress
man ork stuff always sounds like action figure playsets

>>96016580
anon, I...

>>96016580
Kino

>>96016580
you could probably make a good kill tank or death rolla battle fortress out of action figure playsets

>>96016357
>You'd love it if it was your favorite political figure.
I could be a North Korean or a Soviet and I'd still be pissed if it was the Kims or Lenin. Presenting anyone, positive or neagtive, like that looks butt ugly.

>>96016357
This might be the worst post I have ever read on this board.

>>96016357
>you'd love it if [Trump or any other politician] was turned into a psychic servitor being tortured for 10,000 years while his political project becomes a mockery of what He intended.

I mean, yes I would love it but I'm also unhinged so my opinion isn't exactly relevant here.

>>96016669
I never made the connection the Emperor is just a gold plated servitor keeping a psyker machine thing running, huh

>>96014798 (OP)
Is the space wolves codex out yet?

>>96016827
Wanna know another deep dark secret?

Tau spheres of expansion are just polite version of Ork Waaaaaaaghs!!!

Who wins in a straight up 1v1 lore wise?

>>96016839
Hmm not sure I agree, the spheres of expansion are just mass military wars of conquest, similar to Imperial crusades or csm black crusades. Do you think all of them are also more polite versions of WAAAGH?

>>96016853
Imotekh easily

>>96014942
Sorry it took so long to respond, but I was doing 4th of July stuff with my family.

Anyway, this anon >>96015107 is correct. It's very humid here and if I wait for the humidity to go down then I'll never get anything done. So I have to just accept that my primer is always going to be chalky.

>>96016870
Any explanation for your answer? Are you assuming Imotekh has access to 100% of Necron tech? This question is a 1v1 and Mephiston wins that easily.

>>96016853
Mephiston is literally the most powerful psyker in the Imperium and is potentially the most powerful living human psyker. I'm giving it to the vampire. Mother fucker can stop time and bodily traverse the warp without a ship.

>>96016898
None of these Psyker powers affect Necrons and lore dictate that Imotekh wins this easily.

>>96016908
Care to site your sources?

Happy 4th anons!!!

>>96016914
Go read a book anon

>>96016898
Imotekh has the tech to tear Mephiston apart atom by atom, Imotekh wins

>>96016928
I accept your concession

>>96016898
>>96016896
Low IQ unlearned folks, “assuming Imotekh has access to Necron weapon”. So you’re a retard, of course one of the most powerful Necrons in the Universe has access to that tech. He wins Easily!

If you can stop time you just win nothing else really matters.

>>96016954
The Question is asking in a vacuum who wins and the obvious answer is Mephiston.

>>96016908
>>96016935
Genuinely what can Imotekh do? I'm not versed in Necron lore but I've seen some of the shit Mephiston can do and I don't see how anything short of a C'tan shard is putting him down.

Another Xenosfag wishing his “team” beats the Imperium otherwise known as the main protagonist of the entire setting.

>>96016898
The most powerful living human psyker against a named Necron lord is like putting your most well trained in MMA toddler against a hungry bear. But since Mephie is technically from the Imperium, lore demands he doesn't lose.
>Mother fucker can stop time and bodily traverse the warp without a ship.
Yeah, Necrons call that getting a snack from the kitchen
I ain't no 'cron polisher but if we're going to go on lore-accuracy, Necron tech mogs anything the Imperium can muster short of the Emperor getting fully rejuvenated, and that's what it would take for them to present anything the Necrons would take seriously. And they laugh at every other race's excuses for warpcraft, except for the Eldar.

>>96016970
Why is that the obvious answer? Being in a literal vacuum wouldn't hinder a necron lord in the slightest, with a helmet Mephiston would suffer.
Even planetside a necron lord beats a space marine.
However a named space marine from a first found chapter means the plot armour would let Mephiston beat a tomb world solo

This whole convo is directly related to players inexperience with Necron lore

>>96016984
Not a literal vacuum you ape, it’s asking if Mephiston and Imotekh were transfers to an even plain to battle fist vs fist who would win. Clearly Mephiston

>>96016983
Which necron bauble lets them control time and why aren't they always using it?

>>96017004
It was a joke anon. Mephiston would get disembowled by Imotekh assuming no plot armour. Read some Necron codex stuff anon.

>>96017009
As far as I know it's something only Orikan and his ilk have.

>>96017009
Timesplitter cloak is one of them, but they don't use them all the time in lore because the setting would fall apart since nothing can feasibly stand against them. Their deal in the lore is that they are literally taking a nap while the next several hundred millennia go by and hopefully everything will have blown over by then. In fairness its less a common bauble and more that they have a category of science dedicated to it with Chronomancers, so for them time travel is no more arcane than something like nuclear fusion is to us. The Eldar have the technical ability to fight them off, but their whole race is an incarnation of "Just this once master let me go all out" except when they do their souls get eaten.

When you use panel liner, do you do the highlights first and then gloss varnish and panel line or do you do it the other way around?

Imagine getting riled up over lore made to sell you toys. Both factions are written as the bestest, strongest, coolest guys ever.

>>96017030
Either way works. I guess highlighting then gloss varnishing is gonna protect the paint job more with less coats of varnish. That's how I'm currently doing it.

>>96017032
Necron Lords without their Armies or tech are nothing more than glorified Space Marines.

>>96017048
>Newfag detected

>>96017030
I usually do everything other than decals before varnishing and panel lining

>>96017048
Space marines without their tech are just glorified mutants. But their geneseed is a form of tech so really they're just indoctrinated child slave soldiers

>>96017030
Both are options. Doing highlights before your panel liner means you can be a little messier and let your panel liner soften your highlight edges

Why would the best Necron Tech not be available to one of the most powerful Necron lords and being in the universe? How retarded is the average Eurofag?

>>96017048
Who cares though

>>96017048
>Necron
>Without tech
Anon, they are tech

>>96017084
I just killed myself

>>96017084
>though

>>96017080
July 4th gettin you excited anon?

Are games of 2v2, 1000 points each good?
Is there anything to lookout for? Are there accepted rules for this format?

>>96017032
ban·ter
/ˈban(t)ər/
(Noun): The playful and friendly exchange of teasing remarks.
(Verb): Talk or exchanging remarks in a good-humored teasing way.

>>96017127
yes 1k is unironically the best way to play
just set some house rules not to bring skew lists or tons of heavies/characters

>>96017127
2v2 1k is fine, personally I prefer 1500 and under games. The only difficult thing is communicating with your teammate about your moves in a way your opponents don't overhear and isn't annoying to do, but if it's friendly games I would just have everyone talk in the open.

>>96017129
>i-i swear I don't care that much
>I just absolutely can't let someone get the last word when arguing about my buzz lightyear and space skeleton figurines

>>96017010
Mephiston, after the Primaris elevation, is an avatar of a Warp God.
Possibly the strongest psyker in the Imperium.
No way Imotekh is touching that. He would get rekt.

New tallarn just dropped.

>>96016983
The fuck are you talking about? A no-name chapter Master has a good shot destroying Imotekh, much less a combat psychic monster like Mephiston, who has destroyed Hive Tyrants with his bare hands literally.

Necrons don't have good combat feats.

>>96017245
Solid though I feel the SMG should be based on a Sten gun or Lanchester SMG instead of a PPSH.

But who's the biggest fraud in the 40k universe?

>>96017202
Projecting

>>96017265
isn't being a fraud the Emperor's whole thing

>>96017259
Its from a modular imperial guard build set. Only the torso and head are actually meant to be tallarn specific.

>>96017265
Custodes.
They are supposed to be the best but....
Three Harlequins slew dozens of them in a running battle.
Drazhar dueled three Custodes simultaneously and killed them all.
A Custodes blademaster was one-shot by Abaddon mid-charge toward the Cadian lines. Abaddon didn't even break his stride.

>>96017245
Rep. Overlords and their asshole business model ruin them

>>96017281
>Pay money
>Recieve goods
damn thats crazy

>>96017280
Don't forget the Norn Emissary punting one's head off like a football.

>>96017280
Why the FUCK shouldn't eldar harlequins and fucking phoenix lords be able to take on nameless custodes? They're impossible experienced giga humans with far more advanced technology than humanity ever achieved.

>>96017310
plaid leather ooooh so advanced how can humanity ever compete with such protection

>>96017310
Custodes are said to be to Space Marines what Marines are to mortal men.

Space Marines scale up to Aeldari warriors and can handle them. So when Custodes get rolled by something that scales to marines, it's fraud territory

>>96017310
Because they get bodied by normal space marines all the time.

>>96017316
custodes are worse than marines, anything said to the opposite is cope from brazilians

But what if I were to purchase an eldar army and become an eldar player.

>>96017280
custodes suffer from the worf effect, which is a byproduct of black library writers generally being awful
basically, bad writers need to show off how cool something is, so they have it kill have the baddest motherfuckers around to prove it

>>96017316
>Space Marines scale up to Aeldari warriors
That in itself is bullshit but these aren't even regular eldar warriors. These are the very best the elves have to offer.

>>96017268
Bruh the lore is the least important part of the hobby. Whether you're the guy frothing at the mouth that the necronfag called your super spacemen lame, or you're the necronfag sperging out cause someone said a space marine could beat the most epic alien robot skeleton, it's irrelevant. You are both faggots

>>96017327
>That in itself is bullshit
cope eldarfag

>>96017333
Trips confirm

>>96017323
You wouldn't, nobody plays eldar, people just pretend to play eldar

>>96017329
I care about the lore but I couldn't care less about the superhero characters or power level bullshit. Give me imperial armour style shit.

>>96017329
It is still an important part about it, why get so upset people want to argue 40k stuff on the 40k /tg/general? Better here than sperging out among real people.

>imperial fists are known for FORTIFYING
>anvil siege force doesn't do anything to increase survivability

>>96017344
There are like 5 rules in 10th, what do you expect? Best I can give you is add 1 to wound rolls!

>>96017316
>something that scales to marines
Named Harlequins and Phoenix Lords do not fit this description.

>>96017365
Jain Zar was beaten by Night Lords, no?

>>96017337
>imperial armor
Wrong setting for that lame ass shit.

I have followed anon's suggestion and will be painting a pink armiger

>>96017368
She wipes out Talos' whole crew with ease but somehow falls for the old suicide grenade trick. No amount of experience and skill can beat lazy writing.

>>96017342
>urmad
none of it matters. 40k is a setting. Lore just exists to make the setting feel alive. Even if gw wrote an encounter between that necron guy and mephiston, there would be no lasting impact. One would be victorious, one would barely slink away with his life, but then nothing would change going forward aside from those factions having a grudge against each other in the future.

>>96017382
Have fun, that pink is a nice bright starting point

>>96017386
anon your whole argument was
>umad
You are allowed to argue about things that don't matter. Why do you care so much?

>>96017382
>>96017388
Man I want to get my houndpack lance box already. I wanna paint one dog for every legion, and then a nightlord one. Havent decided what the last 2 would be.

>>96017323
delightfully devilish, farseer

>>96017382
clean looking pink anon

>>96017368
After killing like 30+ of them solo and wiping out the main character and the entire astartes supporting b cast and a dreadnaught(?). So getting through all that plot armour is a feat in itself

>>96017406
Thanks! It's TTC hot pink airbrushed over grey seer primer

4 LASCANNONS
or
2 lascannons and 2 missile launchers?

>>96017435
4 cannons

>>96017435
lascannons are hard to get in the army
missile launchers give you great heavy infantry stompers while mass infantry hate it

So a bunch of wokoids destroyed the table top simulator 40k stuff allegedly. Why'd they do it?

>>96017461
How do you mean?

>>96015564
>average imperial fist player

>>96017452
In English doc

>>96017479
4 missile launchers

>>96017479
abbreviation isn't in your skillset
you get lascannons in very few units in good count, where something like a big gun bug or long nose leman russ can nearly one shot

with devastators you get 6 ablative wounds before you start losing lascannons, and it matters not what they shoot unless its made for wiping marines at 30" or more

missile launchers "do what lascannons do well enough" wiping 2-4 wound bigger troops with 3+ or 2+ saves

all the while punishing 20blobs with enough attacks to make an assault cannon jealous x4

The best part about having special and generic units is knowing that chaosfags don’t get any, and it’s important to have special and generic units, so that you can remind chaosfags that they can’t have anything good in life. They’re allowed to have Abaddon and obliterators, and helbrutes. Hey, that's a pretty good generic unit... Not that a chaosfag would know HAHA HAHAHAHAHA

>>96017461
>tts

>>96017461
same reason they killed the megas
to spite their imaginary enemies and unwittingly do the bidding of companies and corporations

Firstborn are 8ft tall, primaris are 9-10ft tall.

>>96017570
nah

>TQ
best lore is also era based, I liked the "Dyson Sphere" C'tan that was the sleeper

this was prior to the lore slaughter when it was retconned

>>96017573
Yeh

>>96017570
Neither of them are real. The only real version of them are the miniatures and they're both roughly 2 inches tall

>>96017541
None of that matters because chaos space marines are the only faction where you can run kino mk2-mk6 armor and have it look good. If you play loyalist you are forced into using pr*maris marines. Whatever loyalist mk7 marines are left are getting squatted or moved to mk10.

>>96014798 (OP)
>Thread Question:What army has the best lore?
/yourdudes/. Everything else is worthless except to provide flavour to /yourdudes/

>>96017570
>Firstborn are 7ft tall, primaris are 8ft tall
ftfy

how do i paint blonde hair with contrast paint and wraithbone primer?

>>96017599
No way the winner will paint all that

>>96017592
Nobody can make you run primaris if you don't want to run them. You can't really complain that they aren't top tier game wise if you're picking models based on aeshetics. If being a metashitter is the most important thing then sure you're stuck with primaris, but then the models are taking a backseat to their effectiveness in game.

>>96017600
Skeleton horde, my beloved

>>96017606
Who cares. Pick all the stuff you want and then fill the rest with shit likely to be refreshed and then flip it for a premium when the unit gets a new kit and then buy a life-sized muscle mommy custodes sexdoll

>>96017606
Share with friends and get new people in the hobby...?

>>96017628
>

>>96017628
Would be pretty exciting to get a bunch of stuff for a beginner all at once and then give them the kits as he finishes them so he doesn't get overwhelmed and just don't tell him where you got them

>>96016027
>i cannot wait until based god king trump gases you in the epic and red pilled alligator alcatraz
>amerimutts literally turning their country into third world shithole with no education, no healthcare, no living standards just for a few AI-slop memes on twitter

>>96017365
Phoenix Lord was killed by noname Sergeant in Eldar's own book series

>>96017628
I'd rather sell it.

>>96017599
>GW marketing
Not canon.

>>96017324
>basically, bad writers need to show off how cool something is, so they have it kill have the baddest motherfuckers around to prove it
On the other hand if Custodes were competent at their job Emperor wouldn't be in Wizard of Oz state now.

>>96017644
With a discount for new players?
>>96017638
kinda funny to think about it, being new in the store wanting to buy a box and someone just comes at you and gifts it to you and leaves.

>>96017652
Am I running a fucking charity?

>>96017612
>hair attached to bone and paint bone skeleton horde
It's over...

Why do we like iron warriors? If you think about it they're kind of boring, but I still like them.

>>96017570
NOT THIS FUCKING SHIT AGAIN FUCKING

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>96017570
>Firstborn are 8ft tall
7

>>96017655
>getting shitton of stuff for free
>selling it with a discount
>"Am i running a fucking charity?"
That is what is wrong with this hobby (and world).

>>96017655
>Am I running a fucking charity?
Not a chance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMnBwuQB5UA

>>96017672

>>96017675

>>96017592
>chaos space marines are the only faction where you can run kino mk2-mk6 armor
No, you can't, this is the 42nd millennium, not the homo heresy.
Chaos marines look like this.

How do I cope with the fact my CSMs have the star of chaos and the eye of horus all over their armors despite being a god-specific cult warband

>>96017673
Get fucked leech

>>96017682
so like 6'7 without their helmet and heels. borderline midgets.

>>96017672
>>96017675
>>96017682
Boomerlore, ignore.

>>96017695
>leech
Look who is talking

>>96017694
Sandpaper

>>96017695
>old player that would give free stuff to new players
>"begging" to sell stuff cheaper to NEW players
>leech?

>>96017701
They're fucking everywhere, in all sizes

>>96014806
Baal names are weird. I don't believe they have family names because their home is a complete shithole with no census so theres no need to define one john from another.

instead you've got human names and angel names, human name is the one you use to normies, angel name is a secret one you only trust to those closest to you.

If you become a blood angel you forsake your human name and are known by your angel name. Dante's human name was Lois and his angel name was, well Dante.

Fuck "new players"

heres the replacement for your death company and tac squad bro. enjoy.

yes spacewolves will have 5 unique infantry kits though.

>>96017694
>How do I cope with the fact my SMs have the aquilas and the imperialis all over their armors despite being a specific chapter

>>96017719
How do you?

>>96017713
GAAAYYYY
also you wanne fuck them and not even give them something in return, what a manice

Anyone know a place I can grab darkstar's metallic paints? They're a pain in the ass to find in stock, especially the pewter one that I need for my grey knights.

>>96017715
Joke's on you, I haven't bought a mini in over a decade.

>>96017721

Man aggressors / inceptors / suppressors look like a fuckin joke, what were gw thinking?

>>96016853

Imotekhs an obscenely skilled military commander, one of the best in the setting honestly, but like all necrons he's also batshit crazy and his particular madness makes him think that he's also a master in melee combat when he's actually quite unskilled.

He didn't beat Helbrecht in a 1v1 because He was a better fighter, He beat Helbrecht because Imotekh is borderline unkillable thanks to his absurdly well built body.

Imotekh basically spent the whole fight face tanking an angry space marine until Helbrecht got tired, then he overpowered him with brute strength and cut his hand off.

That works because Imotekh is both stronger and tougher than your average space marine (5's vs 4s) but Mephiston is Imotekhs Physical peer (5s vs 5s) while also being an extremely powerful psyker AND probably a more skilled combatant.

Imotekhs getting his ass beat.

>but Necrons have anti psychic Technology.

Powerful enough psykers can brute force through Null fields and other anti psychic abilities, Eldrad No sells an entire Tomb worlds Pariah network in Wildrider.

Mephiston is weaker than Eldrad but not by that much, he can probably squeek out some power even while being debuffed but frankly he doesn't need it anyway against Imotekh, lol.

>>96017715
8th edition was the litmus test.
If you're still here 8+ years later then you deserve everything does.

>>96017763
>when he's actually quite unskilled.
cope

>tabletop stats
double cope

>>96017763
>but Mephiston is Imotekhs Physical peer
No, he's not.
>Mephiston is weaker than Eldrad but not by that much
He's much much weaker.

>>96017778
any other named necron lord (other than Trayzn) would beat Imotekh like a red headed stepchild in a 1v1, he's really not all that.

>>96017763
holy marvel tier slop. is this what warhammer has come to, dragon ball powerscaling?

>>96017715
Just buy the old kits from any recaster, and use shoulderpads, chests, heads and weapons from them?

>>96017797
I'm not the retard who asked the question, just the retard who tried to answer. sorry your favourite robot's overrated, good thing my favourite robots not. We're never getting a Valgûl model tho so you have that over me.

>>96017806
i don't care for fagcrons ever since their rewrite

Chat help me out, which of these four bundles looks like the most effective use of $200?

>>96017763
>Mephiston is weaker than Eldrad
Much stronger since he carries shard of Sanguinius

Are there any good eldar warlock proxies I can print?

>>96017816
you'll summon our thread policing GW bootlicker with this talk

>>96017821
Tyranid or Necron one.

Can I attach multiple leaders to a unit?

>>96017761
aggressors grew on me over time though they're still not the best

>>96017846
only when they unit specifically notes you can, like 20 ork boyz

>>96017821
Just money speaking it is chaos, nids, necron, orc.
for playing i probably would go exactly the opposide.

>>96017831
i'll call him a fag too

>>96017671
Height autism is eternal.
Firstborn are 8ft tall, primaris 9-10ft tall.

>>96017869
>>96017855
carnac stop arguing with yourself all the time, this is why the real people are gone

>>96017888
>carnac stop arguing with yourself
No.

>>96017869
Why did you post your IQ test result?

>>96017936
he thinks he's good as long as he passed

Okay but seriously when are we going to get tiers of Imperial Faithers official so I can join these power level arguments?

>>96017849
Or if the leader has a rule saying that, like master of executions

>>96017461
qrd?

>>96015852
There's a specific harlequinn troupe designed specifically around hunting and killing necrons...
Updated destroyers vs Gun chuckling Harlequinn's KT set sounds absolutely wonderful

>>96015759
something so glaringly off about the leg silhouette of the primaris emperor's champ

>>96015759
I'm not usually the one to go old good new bad but holy shit everything on the left here looks so much better

>>96018000
A discord got shut down because of political bickering. Everything's still on the workshop from what I can tell.

The Hedgehog has broken into the thread and blessed it with Saintly War-Songs of old!
https://youtu.be/5WcyVvWZJU4?si=NLrVF_AvEwNFRCPj

>>96017461
Different 3d printing shillers got into a turf war

>>96017978
does anyone make female heads for sisters?

>>96017715
I have to wonder if its to do with lack of generic Primaris Assault Termies, and Primaris Vanguard Vets.

Like they didnt want to do them for BA before other marines got them.

>>96018224
Really weird then because even if GW released them with the BA, all marine players would still be able to use them.

>>96017821
the ork flash gits/flamer boxes are some of my favorite in gw history so I'd do it for that alone

>>96015765
>>96015767
Why are they putting the cloth under the breastplate now? It looks bad.

>>96017715
BA players/collectors are the whiniest SM fanbase right? they always seem to be yapping about something like this often.

>>96015759
They forgot how to make tense poses

>>96018280
Really? I think we have some pretty cool BAfags(with one exception) so I never really got that impression.

>>96018276
extra covering for articulated parts but not a solid breastplate makes more sense than having a marine wear a full hood and bathrobe

>>96018280
Marinefags aren't different from one another, they're all whiners.

Reposting the collage.
Have you picked what elite squad you're gonna paint for this months collage?
10th edition new frens, you can find which units are elite on wahapedia 9th edition.

>>96018205
Have you actually tried to paint any?

If a standard sized ork is killed how many new orks does his spores spawn you think.

>>96018310
what does 'eavy metal team have against painting the Sisters to actually look like women? like there is one they did with a 5 o'clock shadow its kind of insane to think about

>>96018319
I'm going to say two, so they can pop up and start punching each other.

>>96018324
There's a reason they chose that head.

Trying to redo my tanks to match my infantry a bit more.

>>96018349
really? the old scheme was cool

>>96018349
what colours did you use for the vehicles in the back?

>>96018276
Because they decided that Marine armour is no longer a space suit dressed up in different parts with sealed joints, but an undersuit that you slap armour plates on like in Halo.

>>96018354
It always bothered me that it makes 0 sense. It doesn't camouflage into anyhting.

>>96018369
It had cool Valkyria Chronicles vibes. The new one is boring but more realistic, I guess.

>>96018375
It was ripped from company of heroes.

>>96018366
Marine armor is still a spacesuit.

>>96018310
I've never seen anyone post their attempts at this painting method

>>96018425
When was the last time space marines actually fought in space outside of a space ship without atmo and artificial gravity? I don't think even bl slop has had space marines fighting in the vacuum of space.

>>96018472
all the time, only because the shity written lore of nu gw and your lack of imagination prevent you from imagining it, its not not happening. btw when guileman fought on luna. btw each time you face death guard. btw each time you do boarding actions.... they also fight under water.

>>96018472
>When was the last time space marines actually fought in space outside of a space ship
Space Marine 2 quite literally has Titus and his 2 friends jump out of a space ship while in space and then use jump packs to get safely onto the planet's surface.

>>96018502
>btw when guileman fought on luna
I was under the impression that Luna was long made somewhat habitable and you can breathe on its surface.
>only because the shity written lore of nu gw and your lack of imagination prevent you from imagining it
But I can imagine it hence why I asked, I imagine it helps a lot and yet it happens so rarely in the fluff.
> each time you face death guard
Fair
>btw each time you do boarding actions
Well on space hulks sure but fighting on another ship means you can breathe on it
>they also fight under water
God I wish we saw that more often. Pitch black fights in an abyss, only underwater flares for light. You don't die by being killed, but your armour being damage it can't keep you safe from the crushing pressaure. Same as void combat in that sense, small damage to armour is utterly fatal.

>>96018519
>I was under the impression that Luna was long made somewhat habitable and you can breathe on its surface.
And you're wrong and retarded for believing it.
Assumption, is the mother of all fuck ups.

>>96018533
Fuck off anon its the far future with crazy terraforming tech, so when remembered the art of Magnus and Gulliman fighting bareheaded on the moon with some helmetless astartes and thought it meant there was some thin atomsphere on the closest celestial object to Terra

>>96018543
>Fuck off anon its the far future with crazy terraforming tech
Imperium doesn't have anything like that, and it has never been said anywhere that the Moon was terraformed to be habitable.
Even in the Horus Heresy books when Garro got to Terra to warn the Emperor about Horus' betrayal he was confined onto the moon with the rest of the loyalist Death Guard. But then had to fight one his own marines who turned into a nurgle daemon on the barren surface of the moon in the vacuum of space.
And this said lore is like 15+ years old at this point.

You're just assuming shit that was never the case.

>>96018307
Gonna be painting breakas, painted 2/6 so far.

>Everything in BSF got some sort of kit
>Darkmech still got nothing
When will we get a Negavolt kit and other darkmech cultists

>>96018609
never because negavolt sounds too close to nigavolt.

>>96018609
Next season of KT earliest i guess.
Also show them to me. The kits of the others. I see no drones, zoats, ai robots, guhls or anything except fellgore and ratlings. "and the 100th version of the techoarcheologist guy"

>>96018654
The only pic of their sprue I have is this conspiracy pic that they have the symbol of Vashtorr on them, so that GW was making his character and expanding the forge of souls all the way back tehn

>>96018280
Considering the dogshit they got last year? Justified. GW hates BA.

>>96018301
Chaos enthusiasts are probably the worst imo

>>96018543
You literally cannot terraform something the size of the moon. It simply doesn't have the gravity to maintain an atmosphere. It's hard vacuum. It'd be like try to terraform a an asteroid.

>>96018701
The moon does have an exosphere, so extremely thin and not a pure vacuum, technically. But I get your point.

>>96018701
why the fuck would anyhting like that matter in 40k?

There are actually people who are into the lore of 40k but never touch the tabletop. Lmao.

Everytime I go through my chaos folder and see this I'm amazed at how brilliant the anon was who made it. Such a cool way to represent the the Great Rift,and such a cool and fitting cape idea for a chaos lord. The Eye of Terror weeping blood that severed the galaxy is such cool imagery, changing the perspective of the galatic map like that so it simply follows gravity like the rift was just an inevitable unchangable fact of nature. Ah its just genius I'm such a huge fan of it

>>96018701
There's indications that Moon has had a much thicker atmosphere in our past. It's also not impossible to maintain an atmosphere via artificial means. Especially if you end up using the Moon more and more, it'll become much simpler to create an atmosphere and maintain it over making everything on the surface a pressurized vessel. 40k Mars also had a much hospitable atmosphere in the past, enabled by atmospheric shielding. During the Age of Strife these systems failed, forcing people into shelters to survive. If they can preserve Martian atmosphere with shields, they can do it to the much smaller Moon.

>>96018757
Just because they can, doesn't mean they will.

>>96018764
You'd think the moon would have been test ground 1 for new terraforming tech in the DAOT. Would be funny, to me, if it has had an atomsphere many many times in the past as the test ground removed the artifical atmo so they can test further atomsphere tech and during the Long Night they lost the ability to casually do it so the moon was left in its original airless state, despite differnet people living there like the SoS being based there pre the wars of Unity (But I think GW has retconned the SoS and made them an Emperor created organisation)

>>96018746
And I envy them.

>>96018746
>yeah I'm into 40k, I love the BL novels!

>>96018746
I've been into 40k for almost 20 years but only got into the hobby about 4 years ago. Games and lore are more accessible than an expensive and skill-intensive hobby.

>>96018778
>You'd think the moon would have been test ground 1 for new terraforming tech in the DAOT.
No, not really, because Mars exist, it's bigger has more resources and in general is more worth to colonize than a cold rock a that's barely 1/6th the size of earth that has fuck all resources on it.
There's no point to terraforming the moon when you can just build a regular ass moonbase with regular life support systems on it and then just use that as a launching point for the more important shit like Mars.

>>96018784
You will never be a real 40K fan. You have not read novels, you have not read short stories, you have not listened to audiobooks. You are a neckbeard twisted by shitposting into a crude mockery of this hobby's perfection.
All the "validation" you get in 4chan is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your LGS "friends" laugh at your lack of knowledge of the setting behind closed doors.
Fans are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed real fans to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even when you think you "pass", you look uncanny and unnatural to a fan. Your mistakes about the fluff are a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a fan to play with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your lack of respect for the story.
You will never be happy. You wrench out a smug smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, that everyone else is a fake and nobody cares about Black Library, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight, while fearing that you're out of touch and don't fit in.
Eventually it'll be too much to bear, you'll open your bottle of schizo meds, swallow the lot with mountain dew, and slip into that cold abyss... Your family will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with a disappointment. They’ll cremate you, and nobody will know that such a man existed. Your body will burn and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy are shitposts that are unmistakably retarded.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

>>96018746
Nothing wrong with that I just wish they didn't come here to shit the place up

>>96018794
This is post Mars colonisation since that happned super early and they're too important making shit to fuck with their air constantly. They were also creating their own quasi shadow empire across space and seperate from places like Saturns moon base, who also made super advanced tech
A little based on Earth closest moon used to monitor and test vital and sensative atomsphere creating tech makes sense to me. Its the closest vaccum to test in a safe way if something would work, how quickly etc

>>96018746
I have a few friends that have read a fuck tonne of 40k novels but don't own any models. They aren't the type to try change the tabletop game, just a bunch of chill dudes who enjoy the lore

Just got my elite unit finished building. Give me cool ideas for an Incubi paint scheme. White skulls or black skulls?

>>96017245
my buddy has a full tallarn army, its glorious.

>>96018832
Slop guzzlers

Have you started on your elite squad for the month yet, /40kg/?

>>96018811
It's still pointless to colonize the moon even if they have colonized Mars. If humanity managed to colonize the Mars first without doing anything major with the moon, it just means they never needed to terraform the moon at all and it is useless.
There is zero point to going back and terraforming the moon when there's an entire galaxy worth of better planets and other celestial bodies out there to colonize and terraform for human use.

The moon has fuck all to offer in terms of resources, especially to the DAoT civilization which specifically developed colony ships and later the warp travel so they can travel to distant systems.

>>96018835
If that's your model, how did you do the blues? Looks lovely

>>96018835
I really like the glow effect of the defaced spirit stones.
>White skulls or black skulls?
White would stand out aganist the black and blue more, but black skulls would be cool

>Just finished building
>Thinks the fully painted model is what he's talking about

>>96018871
He could have several of the same unit anon

> starting a nid army
> took me a whole day to paint one hormagaunt

>>96018899
You need to change the plans for your colour scheme then.

>>96018899
batch paint that shit

>>96018899
>Finishing a model in one session
You're doing better than me. It takes me multiple long sessions to finish a single marine.

>>96018764
Breathable atmosphere is mentioned on Luna.
>>96018794
Luna is closer to Terra. It also the HQ of Battlefleet Sol, among other things. It's a pretty important place.

>>96018912
but anon... im just doing the leviathan paint scheme.,,

i was following the GW video but i fucked up when it told me to drybrush over the fleshy parts with corax white ( which looked awful).

for my next im just not going to do that step and keep the fleshy bits just wraithbone + magos/contrast medium mix

>>96018853
Not mine, just a reference image. I'm looking up ideas right now.

>>96018926
>It takes me multiple long sessions to finish a single marine.
And this is what it looks like in the end.

So Rogue Traders come from incredibly rich family dynasties that support them. Can they also be Planetary governors themselves, like oldest son will control the planet, other sons are RTs to travel and explore the stars etc? Would their worlds be immune to the tithe and that's why they're so ridiculously wealthy

>>96018947
sovl...

>>96018947
Thankfully not

>>96018950
>Would their worlds be immune to the tithe
no

>>96018950
Yes they can have various different jobs. The whole structure of them is practically just based on nobles from fantasy books.

>>96018950
because they where selected by the emperor thats why there families are so rich and in that position. they colonize, reconnoiter, conquer in the name of imperium. But a planetary governor cant become a rouge trader. a rouge trader can become a governor if he wants to. Its not a job you apply for its inherited.

By blood. The y are the guys that wipe out most of the ayy lamos before the actual imperium gets to work. they also have much more liberty's than any governor when it comes to xenos. They are one or two steps under the inquisitors in authority.

>>96018999
>They are one or two steps under the inquisitors in authority.
They are equals in authority to Inqusitors, chapter masters of space marines*. They answer directly to the Emperor and outside the Adeptus Terra hiearchy

>>96019018
>chapter masters of space marines*
nope, nobody orders SM around nether inquisitor or rouge trader. you ask or plead for assistance of SM with a strong case. SM chapters them self are outside the imperial hierarchy.

>>96018950
Just play the Rogue Trader videogame.

>>96018974
Damn you might be a slower painter than I am

>>96019054
Yeah anon that's exaclty what I'm saying. RT's like SM chapters are outside the imperial hierarchy. Like the Inquisiton is but SM and RT can't order people in the imperial hierarchy around like the Inquisiton can

>>96019066
Painfully so. It's because I still struggle a lot with thinning and base coating. I think I've solved the issue by significantly reducing the amount of water in my wet palette. It seemed like my paints were thinning just sitting on the palette before so I'll see how things go when I start a fresh project. I also tend to make decisions while painting instead of having a plan ahead of time so that also slows me down a lot. Or look at tutorials for things I'm not certain of while painting.

Eldar in the starter box or I sleep.

>>96019054
They wish they where.
"Although many Inquisitors consider themselves answerable only to the High Lords of Terra and the Emperor Himself, in reality there exists a class of high-echelon Imperial servants, to which Inquisitors belong, who all wield more or less the same levels of de facto political influence. Such worthies include Imperial planetary governors and sector lords, Astra Militarum generals, Space Marine Chapter Masters, Ecclesiarchy cardinals, Rogue Traders, Adeptus Mechanicus archmagi, Navis Imperialis Lord Admirals, Adeptus Arbites Judges, and the sector-level representatives of the Adeptus Administratum."

>>96019097
>answerable only to the High Lords of Terra and the Emperor Himsel
I don't think there's a single Inquisitor who thinks themselves answerable to the High Lords. Legally speaking the only people who actually have something approaching co-equal power with an Inquisitor are other Inquisitors, Rogue Traders, and Custodians. The other mentioned persons may have similar or greater political clout or influence, but an Inquisitor is legally entirely within his authority to do whatever he wants regardless of what those other high ranking officials say.

>>96019120
They think of themselfs like that and often act like that as well but truth is different.

>>96019090
Good luck Rip Van Winkle.

>>96019120
>but an Inquisitor is legally entirely within his authority to do whatever he wants regardless of what those other high ranking officials say.
That's headcanon though since the the post you're applying to have enough de facto political influence to equal an inqusitors legal power to do whatever he wants. Inquistor can order a plantery governor killed and a Adeptus Mechanicus archmagi tried as a heretic and then his orders are not obeyed and those people get pissed off, lean on the other high-echelon Imperial servants who throw their weight around to the Inquisiton to remove the inquistor from that sector or they straight up kill him because they all have armies sworn to them while the inquistor has elite kill teams when they don't take control of other peoples armies.

>>96019090
I doubt it, you might get deldar though. No idea why everyone is convinced that we'll get orks

>>96019181
Because other people know what's up and you don't.

>>96019199
Clearly

>>96019181
Some reasonably credible internal leakers have already said that it is Orks and designs would probably be getting ready to go into preliminary production right now to have box sets ready for June of next year so designs are likely finalized.
I'm not saying Sark Eldar couldn't have been an option, but it makes more sense from a marketing standpoint to go with orks because they have broader appeal and starter sets have to sell an entire Edition at the largest point of buy-in for the entire game.

To no one's surprise I lost the big stat check that is Rogal Dorn Cmd., Hellhound and Leman Russ Demolisher. I think I'll drop out of the crusade, it's just impossible to do anything while T10+ models sit on objectives and wait for you to peep your head and shoot your entire units dead at 1000pts games.

>>96019144
Inquisitors will absolutely face consequences for their actions if they don't have the necessary clout to back it up. See Xavier Mendoza, who had 50 Black Templars burned at the stake and then died under "mysterious circumstances". But that doesn't mean the things they do are outside of their authority.

>>96019304
why didnt you sit on the objective with t10+ models and shoot all the enemy umits dead are you gery bad at this game?

>>96019231
whats likely to get updated you think?
>boys
>lootas
>stormboys
>gretchin
>deffdread maybe?

>>96019328
I'll swap to Broodbros Auxillia and grab a Shadowsword or Stormsword

Give me ten reasons why primarchs returning in 40k doesn't turn the setting into capeshit normieslop

>>96019304
Always knew you were a weak boy.

I kinda want to steal his looks

>>96019338
Nta but I suspect that we will get new units, no idea what though

>>96019364
Clearly that's precisely the idea.

>>96019384
Those dreads are getting close to the Frozen Flames fag's work. rip in piss, lel

>>96019364
No argument here. It does. Why doesn't anyone shoot up a warhammer tournament over this?

>>96019364
>capeshit normieslop
Because neither of those words means anything?

>>96017709
>angel names
How am I not supposed to want to bully them when they do shit like this?

>>96019465
You already watched all of Ironheart and even thought it was good (grim).

so what is a Space Marine Commander?

>>96019421
>mfw it was obvious he just wanted an excuse to quit

>>96019465
Ah, I see you're unfortunately a normie, anon. Have you considered killing yourself?

>>96019384
Nobody owns a color scheme, you can easily use it and excuse it away like how there are 50 nearly identical canon marine successors

>>96019489
>Spout off meaningless buzzwords
>Get mad when people refuse to acknowledge your nonsense
Real zoomer hours

>>96019495
>doesn't know what a "normie" is

Real newfag hours

We need some more models posted

>>96019054
Which is why space marines are giant faggots who should be destroyed. The whole reason they were created was to fight humanity's enemies. Humanity shouldn't have to beg what are essentially glorified weapons to actually do their job as weapons.

>>96019504
You can start any time!

I've still got to clean up the legs and sand them down/remove mold lines, but I've used some blu-tak for posing purposes to hold the torso bits, leg bits and such together
Do you think having an Archon conversion sitting on a throne is too much of a piss-take in terms of size?

new thread
>>96019524
>>96019524
>>96019524

>>96019520
Looks cool imo

>>96019517
Right here >>96018571

And here's another one

>>96019520
That's pretty sweet. Could always put it on a raider or Tantalus for that classic Dais of Destruction look.

>>96019384
Lego rock raiders ass color scheme

>>96019495
Mate you're just a fucking retard

>>96019554
Ironic

>>96019551
Not at all

>>96019566
Yuh huh, replace a lot of the yellow with more orange and it’s pretty close

>>96019587
>just change the scheme and it's close
gee willikers

>>96019590
It’s already close to begin with anon, quit being obtuse. The grey main color with teal and orange highlights. Give that son of a bitch some yellow and we got the rock raider marines

>>96018835
How about cotton-candy pink?

>>96019465
I think it describes the impact the Avenger movies had on popular culture with every big corp trying to ape it.

>>96019484
Cope. He was just dumb.

>>96019593
>It’s already close to begin with anon
not really
different blue, different greys, no orange in the legos

>>96019625
All greys with teal are rock raiders (plus it did have orange in a few of the sets, usually as a highlight color)

>>96019617
Yes, I will cope with the fact that Frozen Flames anon always wanted to quit and needed an excuse.

>>96019770
Nobody who spent that much money and time customizing his own chapter and going so far as to commission art of them would just quit without the type of spergout he displayed over a nothing burger

>>96019551
>>96019566
>>96019587
Thanks for the core memory unlock autismo, I know what I'm doing this afternoon

>>96019775
What did he sperg out over?

>>96020127
femstodes

>>96019842
There's a modernized remake called Manic Miners. You know it's good shit from indie devs when playing their games feels like stealing.
https://manicminers.baraklava.com/

>>96020127
He had a spine and this anon seethes about it.

>>96019775
>Nobody who spent that much money
Sunk cost fallacy.
FFanon was just a normie.