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>Previously>>96012921>TQWhat's your favorite thing about Edge of Eternities so far?
>>96021207 (OP)>TQDon't worry artifacts bros. I got your back.
All the pieces are just kind of falling together. I know Fynnfect isn't a new deck, but this setup of it with Delney, Hapatra and Center Soul is absolutely fresh. I've seen one other Fynnfect list with Delney and she was only 1-of. No chance is she a 1-of, the bitch is killer in this list. Soul is killer too. Double Rotpriest triggers via Rebound, lets cleanly swing through anything with Protection, and can protect your Deathtouchers on the block so they stay around after getting to kill something.
>>96021207 (OP)>TQlandfall tech
>>96021207 (OP)i swear if they don't make robots a thing... we alredy saw this shit and one GREEN fucking robot. i expect better Mark, i'm warning you.
>>96021207 (OP)>What's your favorite thing about Edge of Eternities so far?I fucking hate the art direction, but the actual art quality card-by-card is very high.
Also, miraculously, the story isn't awful.
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Friendly reminder if you are not playing Dimir in current Standard you are a retarded loser :)
>>96021553>parasitic playersthe hivemind knows
>>96021486>tap over half your opponents lifetotal worth of creatures for a flyer>evoke but make it fire>more tokens and coomander crap>"great story" is just troon shitThis shit is going to be aetherdrift 2, especially coming so soon after everyone blew their cardboard budgets on FIN.
>>96021597I didn't say great. I said it was not awful, which makes it better than every story for the past 8 or so years.
But yeah it's trash. Warp is either going to break everything or do nothing and be a flash in the pan, and the rest of the set will be unplayable everywhere, including limited.
>>96021313more people should explore delney she's kinda nuts for 3 mana
>>96021666Really. I don't think I've ever seen her in a brew, other than as a fringe 1-of.
Staring at a Sheoldred in the face and swinging a Fynn + Tinybones past her for 8 Poison is a nuts feeling. Same for Hapatra dumping two counters conto her and spamming four snakes. Delney's crazy good.
>>96021666Don't give away my tech there is so much busted shit you can do with them.
All 3 mana non-creatures deal 4 damage, gain me 4 life and draw me two cards on ANY endstep?
This and an unwinding clock and every turn is my turn.
>>96021697Wrong thread, bud.
>>96021702I'll see myself out; still good card. Elias loves doubled triggers; we'll see if EoE gives aristocrats gas it needs to be meta.
>>96021702This is the magic thread, not the pre-modern thread.
Magic is commander and magic is gay as fuck now.
You lost, chud.
>keep a 1 land hand in standard
>never draw 2nd land
>win the game on turn 3
can we admit this format is still fucking stupid and broken
I shouldn't be able to combo off and win the game on turn 3 with a single fucking land
>>96022102What do you mean can we admit?
Everybody knows that. Standard is like 50 bans away from becoming anywhere close to reasonable.
>>96022102>can we admit this format is still fucking stupid and brokeni don't think anyone here would pretend it's balanced
What if Pioneer got extended back by the Innistrad block?
>>96022145Other than Phoenix running Faithless Looting, no decks would change.
>>96022145this would've been a meaningful change like 3 years ago, now and in the long run it's not going to matter that much, they are likely going to reprint the strongest cards from the block in the coming standard sets
HOOOOLLLLYYY FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK ARCLIGHT PHOENIX IS SO FUCKING BORING TO PLAY AGAINST
>>96021233I've been trying to build a Tezz/Synthesizer list for when the set drops but Tezz might actually be shit in Standard.
It's nice you can hit him off United Battlefront but the only cards for him to grab are Candy Trail, Dusk Reliquary, and maybe a Ghost Vacuum if you want to play one main.
>>96022145This should've been the case since the very beginning. I can near-guarantee to you, if you told old Magic players that you created a format for them where they could theoretically run old Innistrad archetypes again across multiple Innistrad blocks, way more people would've tried to keep the format alive.
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>TQ
first set since 2024 to give modern burn a playable card, even though it's just sideboard material and nowhere near as pushed as the crap other archetypes get
>>96022261I'm pretty sure Boltwave came out in 2024
>>96022257I also like the new insects, but I hope we get something more aggressive or tribal-focused so that we'll have a reason to run a deck full of them.
>>96022276Read that post again
>>96021553>white powerI fucking wish. Never gonna happen with Hasbrews running the game.
>>96022432Inb4 a new collab with Magic and Ramen to make Sliver noodle soup
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>>96022432okay, now I will probably buy tokens of this set.
>>96022432I want to stick my dick in some delicious sliver cunny
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Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home...
Anyone have a good FNM?
I won my shop's Modern one but the foil prize pack had like $2 worth of cards in it.
Deck
4 Portent of Calamity (BLB) 66
4 Plains (TDM) 278
3 Stock Up (DFT) 67
3 Moment of Truth (MOM) 67
4 Omniscience (WOT) 24
1 Invasion of Arcavios (MOM) 61
2 Spell Pierce (DFT) 64
4 Adarkar Wastes (DMU) 243
2 Meticulous Archive (MKM) 264
4 Seachrome Coast (ONE) 258
3 Floodfarm Verge (DSK) 259
2 Scene of the Crime (MKM) 267
3 Day of Judgment (FDN) 140
3 Get Lost (LCI) 14
4 Island (NEO) 295
3 Arcane Proxy (BRO) 75
4 Marang River Regent (TDM) 51
3 Repair and Recharge (BRO) 24
2 Valgavoth's Lair (DSK) 271
2 Confounding Riddle (LCI) 50
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#1 MOST POPULAR ANON
>>96022432Fuckers are going to make me buy this spaceship bullshit aren't they
Fuck
>>96022680You might get some singles but you sure as hell won't be buying any of the spacecraft because they're just
>what if battles cost +2 mana and sucked cock
>>96021474Robots as the green tribe would have been kino. Shame about those Brand X nantuko.
>>96022711Ah I'm a sucker, if they tempt me with slivers I might actually do the prerelease.
>>96022673>Deck>4 Portent of Calamity (BLB) 66stopped reading there. deck sucks.
>>96022673its a low curve aggro format
-2 spell pierce -2 confounding riddle +4 temporary lockdown
figure out some cuts to include parting gust or soul partition
How many lands and how many color producing lands? I thought I saw 14 color sources but idk if that's right
>>96022723>Ah I'm a sucker, if they tempt me with slivers I might actually do the prerelease.with "people" like yourself, no wonder mtg is in the current state it is.
hoes without saying but kys.
>>96022960lol frogshitter fuck off before I tell your mom you're on her ipad again
>>96022993>no uevery time
>>96022680I think there's only going to be one sliver. It's an artifact that gives all slivers double strike and trample and creates sliver tokens.
>>96022960Sorry I like MTG stuff instead of UB slop I guess!
>>96023072probably enough to just use Voice of Victory
>>96023072>>96023108Voice of Victory is definitely a better option due to its silence.
>>96023127You could also just use white Overlord and slot that shitty blue enchantment into the white token control deck, because it already wants to curve Voice > Enduring Innocence/Caretaker's > Overlord anyways
>>96023133Moonlit Meditation on Enduring Innocence on turn 4 isn't the worst thing either; they'd see each other enter.
Might be able to turn it into some kind of United Battlefront deck as well, to find Meditation more easily
>>96023213Drinking "Milk" if you know what I mean ;)
The best part about playing pauper is knowing that amerimutts donโt know how to, and itโs important to attend paupergeddon, so that you can remind negroes that they canโt have anything good in life. Theyโre allowed to have pissmodern and cuckmander, and SCG scams. Hey, that's a pretty good grass roots tourney... Not that a nigger would know HAHA HAHAHAHAHA
What card for this feeling?
>>96023072>>96023108>>96023127Dalkovan Packbeasts Mobilize 3..
3 Copies, each ETB and Attack = 4 Damage and 4 Damage X 3 = 8x 3= 24
>>96023241>calls Americans "nigs'>post picture of ahmedok europoor
>>96023315Post body then.
>>96023241The ultimate red pill that /Tranny Goyim/ can't take is that pauper players are straight up superior humans.
Physically, sexually, mentally, ontological ubermensch designed to destroy shitter loons.
>>96023408>tutor 2 discard 3wtf this card is broken
>>96021697>7 mana deal 2 gain 2unplayable, real competitive magic formats end by turn 4 or 5
>>96023570What about Control players? Are they not real Magic players?
>>960235781v1 control players don't use 7 mana to deal 2 damage, they use 7 mana to win the game on that turn
>>96022738In my last game my opponent sideboarded in soul-guide lanterns AND ghost vacuums
I had temporary lockdowns and he spent about 7 turns fighting to destroy my lockdowns as I destroyed all his threats, leaving him with control of my graveyard to exile it
Then when he was tapped out and I was down to 2 cards in hand, I cast one of them. Portent of Calamity, x=6
Revealing arcane proxy, a land, omniscience, stock up, repair and recharge, moment of truth
That's what real big dick energy cards do
>>96022432This is unironically the only thing I am looking forward to. I want more proper Slivers, because the last time I added to my deck was a bird.
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>>96023758>loves his slivers, simple as>just happy to see moreI promise you anon, this is how WotC look at you.
>>96023758>Slivers>Is a changeling birdThat's not how it works.
GIVE ME ELDRAZI
GOOD POWERFUL ELDRAZI
ELDRAZI PLAYABLE IN STANDARD PLEASEEE
>>96023800I cast Mocking Bird and it becomes the 3rd Leeching Sliver. Resolves?
I swing with all 5 Slivers. Good game?
>>96023857i cast settle the wreckage
anyone try to win FF boxes on MTGA this weekend?
>>96024012Doesn't matter though, Leech triggers killed you already.
>>96021207 (OP)>see card>start crying about "wah muh phyrexians" or "wah muh reddit design">ignore the fact that it's literally a war crime cardSo, Anons, a war crime theme deck when?
>>96024061i also replicate consign to memory 15 times
>>96024213Judge? This card is not Pioneer legal!
>>96024220I cast gun and shoot you, then steal your deck
>>96024223I didn't notice you were Black player
>>96021207 (OP)>going further outside the usual aesthetic so crossover content won't stand out as much
Generate an image of Mark Rosewater holding a walkietalkie and caption "Shut it down".
>>96023266Sadly this is the eternal status quo for JOTC and especially mono white cards. At least Bloomburrow exists as a nice break from it all.
>opponent plays nothing but discard spells
>I play nothing but land destruction spells
god it feels good when a standard game somehow feels like old school magic
right out of premodern honestly
>>96024451>Land destructionIs so sad they are never giving support to that anymore...
>>96024395that's the best I could coax ChatGPT to generate
>>96024436Takir didn't have any Black people on cards for some reason.
>>96024395attempt number two
standard is flourishing again....
>>96024650>monogreen aggroYesss
>>96022102what did you do to "combo off"
>>96024678>art is a llanowar elf>flavor text is skyshroudwtf I thought old magic wouldn't make such a blunder....
>>96024751Maybe the skyshroud hymn is about llanowar elves.
>>96024678>flavor text is about fight foes on high>it doesn't have or give reach>>96024751It's been fixed quite quickly.
>>96024776Ain't that kind of HIGH elf if u know what I meeeean
>>96024730turn 1 yavimaya coast llanowar elf
turn 2 he used go for the throat on elf, I popped growing dread in response
turn 3 splash portal
only 1 land
>>96025006well yeah if you just lucked into a manifested omni or similar you did combo off
might as well hope your enemy draws no lands and has to mull thrice
>>96021207 (OP)TQ: the fact that this too, as any set in the past 7 years, I won't be buying it, they wanted so hard to kick me out of the game so I thought it would be nice to please them.
>poison counters are back>again>>96024650>print overpowered crap>80% of format is two decks>ban those two decks>fourth best deck takes over because of overpowered crap is banned from the top three decks and some random control that was only viable before the top two decks had all their cardsWhen will it end?
>>96024650I wonder when jotc will admit that F.I.R.E. is a mistake and should have never been born.
>>96025249stop fearmongering, retard
>>96024538Generate an image of maro holding a talmud using a black lotus as bookmark.
>>96021207 (OP)Was there a sudden influx of lifegainshitters? Why do people hate poison now?
>>96025281Ah yes. Still 70% or more aggro. The format is heckin FLOURISHING. And JotC is going to release MORE overpowered and broken one-card combos that will break the game AGAIN?!! SIGN ME UP FOR THIS HECKIN FLOURISHING.
>>96025319>the number on this site is too big so everything sucks!!! Why even bother complaining about a format you don't play or ever had the intention of playing?
>>96025380I do play the format, but it sucks dick to play whenever everyone is just playing turn 4 win aggro with every creature being something that just gets bigger when you do X or lets you draw a card when you do Y.
>>96025301Everyone except Maro always hated poison. It's a gimmick mechanic that only interacts with itself.
>>96025399>it sucks dick to play whenever everyone is just playing turn 4 win aggro with every creature being something that just gets bigger when you do X or lets you draw a card when you do Y.All you have to do is make your own decks to prevent this.
>>96025319>hating on one of the most balanced metas evershygddt
kindred artifact land - Urza's Construct
>>96025627Kindred Artifact Enchantment Land Battle - Urza's Construct Food Treasure Vehicle Siege
>>96025627>>96025717>jotc goyimspeakJust say tribal you fucking retards
>>96025788The joke is about stupid new types dumbass.
>>96024650>Eleventh and bottom 20thPOWERFUL WHITE CARDS
Kek.
>>96025806The joke is retards like you unironically using JOTC safe words, dumbshit
Now I must go cast Tribal Flames in my Tribal deck of my Tribe
>>96025821You should stop saying faggy things like unironically if you want to be a free speech hater.
>>96025821>unironicallyLearn what that word means.
>>96025821>faggot schizo btfolol, lmao even.
>>96025541>make your own decks to prevent this.A lot less consistent in general than those triggers
>>96025564>>96025564>this heckin 80% aggro meta is BALANCED>all colors are present>doesn't matter if they're all non-interactive turn-4 win decks.
>>96025060A deck with 24 hits for manifest dread has a 64% chance to get a hit off each attempt
a list with 20 hits has 56% chance
slightly more assuming you're mulliganing hands with more threats and shuffling and drawing into more manifest
You can combo off if you start with any of the free spell cards, one with the multiverse, the world spell, omniscience, etali, breaching dragonstorm
I haven't played mtg since this set, haven't been in these generals since then either, but I was reminded of this today in another general so I wanted to come in, post it, let the board know this card made me hate black people. I hope Hasbro goes bankrupt and everyone at WotC gets laid off.
>>96025892If 80% of the meta is just a couple different decks it should be pretty easy for you to get perfectly balanced mirror matches.
Is there an easier instant speed win condition loop with end step yuna + omniscience to kill the opponent, easier than my 1-of valley floodcaller + 1-of arcavios?
I can dig through my deck with confounding riddle / marang / moment of truth and I usually hit them
I have a feeling there would be some much simpler loop with this town ain't big enough if it wasn't banned. But I have to dig for two pieces, without the benefit of 2x marang infinite loop because they are sorcery speed
>>96025249Poison never left. Fynn is in Standard for five years and no one plays him.
I hope they make poison into something not only playable but broken so i can see this babys cry with a reason.
>>96026012Since you're playing on your endstep maybe you can mill them with something and then letting them draw to death?
HOW THE FUCK WAS CUTTER NOT BANNED IN PIONEER
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THESE IDIOTS EVEN DOING
>>96026012>>96026479Maybe this bad boy gets you there
>>96024751Rath was overlaid onto Dominaria during the Invasion you zoomer retard
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>>96026492>How the fuck was Cutter not banned in Pioneer>How the fuck was Hearthfire not banned in Pioneer>How the fuck was Treasure Cruise not banned in Pioneer>How the fuck was pic related not banned in PioneerThese faggots are not only greedy retards, they also don't give a single fuck.
>even after waves of bans Modern is still Modern Horizons Set Constructed
Is there any format that's not abject shit right now?
>>96021597>that artJesus christ what were they/them thinking?
Its not even about the genderspecial thing but look at this face. It is facing 3 directions at once and not in a cool Picasso intentional kind of way.
A creature with this art better fucking have the creature type shapeshifter
>>96026540I like Standard even if you guys shit on it.
>>96023213>EU gets a bee in their bonnet about lootbox mechanics in games>wotc introduce the character loot, carrying a mysterious box to muddle up searches for 'mtg lootbox'>eu gets dragged into the conflict in the middle east>wotc no longer need to force loot as a character.
>>96026540i don't think so the important thing in the end is have fun, i'm having fun with my dimir bounce list in pioneer.
>>96026530FIRE design means MTG is about just putting down your creature, watching it get bigger, taking turns swinging with the creature and then winning. Just like commander.
>>96026551>It is facing 3 directions at onceYou're still thinking in binary where someone has to only look one way or another. Non binary people can face any number of directions at once.
>>96026492>>96026530>>96026621For me what's really offensive is the fact the kikes didnt unbanned something... I mean okay you want the format to be a cluster fuck then why don't unban my boi Inverter, or Uro, or Ballista or Kethis? Or all at once? I mean you let Cutter fuck us in the ass what will change any of those cards?
>>96026515>>96026479>>96026012I mean if you dig through your deck it would be nice to have a win-con you could assemble on your own end step without needing as many specific pieces that could be milled out or lost somehow (hit both valley floodcaller and arcavios in the same confounding riddle = can't get both)
Siege could work if you already had it down, but that's an extra pieces. You can't cast it at instant speed without a floodcaller effect
If you had some kind of infinite recurring effect you could flash in, that would be easy. This Town Ain't Big Enough being banned makes that harder to find.
Just having a lethal board of marangs + counterspells in hand gets used by other omni decks. Maybe there's some other kind of flash threat I could establish on a board, bounce creatures with dispersal and have a counter or two in hand?
I wonder, what about 1-2 copies of Whirling Stormbrood? It gives dragon spells flash, which lets you loop marangs
>>96026820Could this help? It's better than Floodcaller and the Stormbrood
>>96026515>Temur>Mill cardsWhy return to Tarkir (and khans) if they are unable to even respect the original designs ?
>>96026621Look for a creature to be well designed it should generate card advantage when it enters the battlefield (uncounterable thanks to cavern), then more card advantage when you attack, possibly with haste or other attackers, then it should have a condition to activate transformed mode or expensive ability where its an instant game winning threat all on its own
Also it should have at least 3 keywords, one of which is ward {2}
Also it should be legendary
And cost only 2-3 mana
>>96026833thanks for good find I had no idea this was in standard it could replace flood caller or shit dragon
yeah that will let you combo off on end step with marangs and arcavios alike, but with that all you should need is 4 marangs and 1 trickster, bounce all opponents board and a few counters in hand and then pass the turn
>>96026834Unironically for the same reason they returned to Ravnica to play Scooby Doo and the reason they returned to and combined Kaladesh/Avishkar and Amonkhet just for Wacky Races.
>>96026834Because ferocious is one of the most boring mechanics ever. Plus it could've been straight mono green and nobody would've blinked.
>>96026896Ferocious is just prototype Exhaust
>>96026964What the fuck are you talking about, anon?
Warp is literally just Adventure but they opened it up to degeneracy
>>96027001100% Warp will be the broken shit about this set, just like Cascade was in Ixalan. Be ready for cheating your way through victory.
>>96026838Don't forget it also needs to have counters put on it and also create tokens.
>>96026540Content creators told me Pauper is in a good spot.
What set was it and in what year where every set had so much black people?
>>96027033Kaldheim was the big tipping point.
>>96027013only a single one mana flicker in standard and its sorcery speed do-nothing for warp, nothing remotely close to an ephemerate
Discover and Cascade were inherently busted because they gave card advantage AND mana advantage by default, on top of being deterministic ways to cheat out cards after deck constraints, and required cards to basically do absolutely at their normal costs or else they vomited advantage. And bloodbraid was the king of that because just a 3/2 haste on top of another free 1-3 mana spell was way too powerful for its time.
Contrast Warp
Warp inherently gives no bonus. Cards with warp can be designed to give card advantage, but can be costed around it. You pay 4 mana for the eldrazi warp and all you do is get another 4 mana card from your hand and draw a card, you don't actually get any board presence from the eldrazi, all it did was replace itself in hand and put itself into exile to be cast later, except its a big uncastable piece of shit low impact 7 drop, so in reality you're not actually up a card, you're just spinning your wheels in place.
Warp with haste will be inherent value like dash was, and the black one looks like it could be broken
Haha it's a funny Among Us reference! What brilliant, subtle worldbuilding.
>>96027001Unban Beans so I can really abuse Warp wotc you cowards!!
>>96027085You hate it because it's a reference.
I hate it because it's worse Pile On.
We are not the same.
>Hey, we're deigning a set for Standard that features Beans. Maybe we should shelf this mechanic that cheats mana costs until Beans rotates?
>NO. IMPENDING IS MY SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE BABY AND IT MUST SEE PRINT RIGHT NOW.
>Ok Mr. Rosewater.....
>Say, Mr. Rosewater. This Warp mechanic cheats on mana costs, and we still have Beans in the format. Maybe, since we already did an extremely similar mechanic not even a few sets ago, maybe we should shelf this whole Warp thing until Beans rota-
>IT'S MY DESIGN. IT GOES IN THE SET. SHIP IT.
But seriously though, the Beans pre-ban is hilarious.
They went in knowiing what they were doing. They specifically designed cards that abuse Beans for a Standard format that features Beans, and opt to shoehorn the designs in right now by banning Beans instead of just not using those design ideas until Beans rotates.
The incompetence on display is truly Legendary Creature - Bird Wizard levels.
>>96027205They even had a great mechanic for it a couple sets later, if beans was "when you expend 5, draw a card", it would've been perfectly fine.
clearly needs the lucky clover treatment to replace beans
Warp Thruster {1G}
Artifact
Whenever you cast a spell with Warp, copy that spell. (The copy enters the battlefield as a token. If it was cast with Warp, that token is exiled at the end of turn)
>>96027258>They even had a great mechanic for it a couple sets later, if beans was "when you expend 5, draw a card", it would've been perfectly fine.Really though. It's ridiculous how utterly blunderbuss this arc of Standard has been.
>>96027085>convoke in black just to make sus referenceAh
>>96024650how the fuck they leave kaito and that dumb cat legal?
those niggers win games by themselfs
>>96024650Where is all the FF cards?
>>96026492Because nobody cares about Pioneer. Hell most don't care about standard either
>>96027350You're several sets too late.
>>96027033I'd say Dominaria was the change, Kaldheim was just the most egregious time they did it
>>96027390Are you implying people care about Memedern? Or maybe, god forbid me, Prememedern?
>>96027373Dimir Midrange and BW Pixie use Cecil. Vivi Cauldron is a tier 1.5 combo deck. Personally I was hoping for Terra to be in Gruul Delirium but its far too gimmicky at this point
I was playing around with Sephiroth in Standard and it felt surprisingly powerful and not in a meme way. With Blood Witch that's 8 Blood Artist effects and having 2 in play is pretty insane, plus there is a lot of sac fodder creatures and recursion. I was winning games where I drained all of my opponent's life without every attacking. This will be good post rotation, the only thing it is missing is 1 more good sac outlet. You have the 2 mana BW creature from Ixalan but need another
You could probably build some lifegain combo shit with this too
>>96027661FUN FACT: You can get more than 1 Sephiroth emblem if you flip him again on another turn!
>>96027661Spoiler: Against real decks Sephirot is a meme
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>>96027661>This will be good post rotation
>>96027994dude huge numbers lmao
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>entomb or reanimate will end up eating a ban in legacy to save tamiyo or bowmasters
>>96027994>10>20FUCKING WHY? WHYYYY? HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO USE THIS SHIT?
>>96027994>100Fucking cringe
>>96028118Playtesters don't even bother with 60 card and forgot that 20 power worth of creatures literally wins the game instead of just being half of one of three of your opponents life totals.
>>96028046if there's anything we learned in the past 2 years is that is not happening
they will literally ban any card before touching entomb or reanimate
>>96027994this station shit is worse than crew, literally unplayable outside of edhfaggotry.
>>96028264It was designed with edh in mind.
>>96026985For some reason I mixed it up with Monstrous.
>>96026896I think anon is complaining that the card fuels the flashback for temur focusing on Blue (mill) instead of helping it focusing on Green.
They could just have made it a landfall that gives power to creatures and add mana or any thing that gives power to a creature (and maybe untap it).
New tarkir is just retarded, the Wedges of Tarkir were made to be "asymmetrical" not focusing on the enemy color but on one of the allied colors but Faggots of the Coast made sure to ruin the identity of Tarkir.
>>96027994>100 damageZzzz just say "Destroy"...
>>96028167Based Gladiator poster.
>playing my towns draft deck with 3 of the rare towns, the rare that creates a 2/2/ if you control 5 or more towns, and Sin, Spira's Punishment
>opponent keeps emoting
>>96027994This card is awful. It's 5 mana and literally does nothing when played
>>96027994I guess you could combo it with screaming nemesis, but that's a 5 mana do nothing artifact and it needs to tap 10 power to do anything. Unless there's a card that enables spacecraft for a single turn or something like that, it's a pipe dream.
>>96027994>At least one of the mythic slots is a 5-mana Darksteel Relic but without indestructibleThis set is so fucking doomed.
>>96027994>vehicles but even worseWhy do they so senselessly try to cram these mechanics into the game?
>>96027994>20+So, you can literally, actually FULLY kill your opponent, or... kill them... slower?
>>96027994HAHAHAHAHAH IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE AN ETB
GLORIFIED SORCERIES MY ASS, IT'S LITERALLY JUST A FUCKING DEAD ASS 5-CMC BRICK HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH WHAT THE FUCK
real talk
Vehicles are giving me some serious Delif's Cone energy...
Why thought making fucking Deliv's Cone a main set mechanic was a good idea.
Find them. Defenestrate them.
>>96027994I think the worst thing about this is it doesn't even have colors to justify it as made to be a commander card.
they either add a ton of parasitic station support or it's going to be the deadest set mechanic in standard
>>96028762>the deadest set mechanic in standardIn history. This is some unironic Radiance-tier shit.
Clown
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Now wheres' the Space Station 13 card?
spaceships looks so useless not because of the big number, but due ot sorcery speed, yeah let me open up for a meme trigger
>>96027085As far as references go, this one's fine. If you don't get it, you don't get it, and it's a single card referencing a space game in the space set. It's about on the level of Diamond Pickaxe or Grave Bramble.
Thereโs definitely going to be at least one broken spaceship and you will all cry about it. Itโs like you havenโt learned how they design card types and mechanics, theyโll always push a few
>>96027994have we learned nothing?
>>96027994Just need a single card like this
>>96028873No because it's 5cmc and would still have summoning sickness AND could be chump blocked even if it did swing.
>>96028873>posts cards that haven't seen play in standard and still won't.
>>96028873SPACE GUIDELIGHT MATRIX
When this artifact enters, draw a card.
2, TAP: Target Mount you control becomes saddled until end of turn. Activate only as a sorcery.
2,TAP : Target Vehicle you control becomes an artifact creature until end of turn.
2,TAP : Target Station you control becomes an artifact creature until end of turn.
>>96028900>2,TAP : Target Station you control becomes an artifact creature until end of turn.No it would be
>Target Spacecraft you control becomes Stationed until end of turn.Just to make it as inconsistent as possible.
>>96028898>flier>kills a blocker on attackChump blockers would not be that much of an issue. It's true no haste hurts, though.
>>96028899That's because there aren't any 20/20 vehicles with evasion
>>96028848I double dare you to make one single spaceship with the STATION mechanic and the sorcery speed that could work in any single meta nowadays. Is worst crew, this shit is literally unplayable.
>>96028900did we really need three different version of vehicles?
>>96028911But no trample so good lucky with the 1/1 flyer tokens chumping it every turn.
they are designing cards for a meta that doesn't exist
>>96028911>Chump blockers would not be that much of an issuexD I recur 3 Phoenixes.
>>96028916All it takes is a good spell stapled to a good station body or a self-stationer with the ability to run away with games.
>>96028785This, but unironically.
>>96028943Who the fuck would willingly play pioneer?
>>96028934Nah they are designing cards without constructed in mind. They actively know vehicles need a big and i mean biiiiig payoff to be playable or they must be cheated. We had Esika that autocrews himself and makes tokens, we had Consul that killed a creature when enters and when attacks, we had Smuggler with a cheap crew cost and hand fixer and we had Bankbuster that was a card engine and also auto crew himself, you can count if you want Parhelion but you need the rat to and we enter in the combo terrain but as playable vehicles need a really good advantage.
With Saddle already a mistake you made vehicles creatures and easier to kill and with this station shit they screw the whole thing: Sorcery speed and ridiculous costs even if the โCrewโ counters remain. Is awful and obviously in no way made for constructed play and they know it too.
>>96024489Something something asian minorities
Something chinese market, please understand
>>96028916Rogueโs Runner 2
Flying
Station 2
Whenever Rogueโs Runner enters or attacks, draw a card and discard a card
2/3
>>96029023Also add so that if you have Station 5 you just draw a card
Retvrn to sovl
Retvrn to Rabiah
>>96027994>whenever you ATTACKok thats interesting
>>96027994If they dont have support card/ abilities for STATION this mechanic will be soo shit
>>96028898read again, whenever YOU attack, not whenever IT attacks.
so summoning sickness is moot for its +10 STATION
>>96027994>literally does nothing for 5cm
>>96029211>read again, whenever YOU attack, not whenever IT attacks.>so summoning sickness is moot for its +10 STATIONDear anon,
Please explain how, exactly, one would be attacking on the same turn that they invest 10 points of power to Station the vehicle.
Thank you.
Astronaut
Token Creature โ Astronaut
This creature stations Spacecrafts as though its power were 2 greater.
>>96029225by having 11 points of power on board of course!
>>96029237Likely more. The math won't always work out.
>>96029225Xmas time
Tezzer + A artifact creature with 5/X + Barbed Servitor
We're getting some random card with "When your spacecraft enters, add X charge counters, where X is [whatever]
Dare I say, this set is the most boring possible thing they could have done with the idea.
Asked in the other bread but -
I opened up a box/bundle of final fantasy after I just finally got back into mtg after a 5 year hiatus since just before the coof, my only standard legal cards are a handful of Tarkir cards from the prerelease and a playset of every non mythic from FF (I have basically 1 of every mythic other than Buster Sword). Is it possible to build a (if not good) playable deck out of this bulk? If so what colors would be best for it.
>>96029310Game's shit. Not worth building a deck.
>>96029318I only play bad games, come up with a better excuse
>>96029324>come up with a better excuseNo. Game's shit. Not worth it.
>>96029310without putting much thought into it, I think you can make a red/white equipments deck trying to abuse firion + all the cheap equipments with job select, there is some cheap removal you can play to stay alive but any deck you make with this limited card pool will have a hard time against an actual competitive standard deck
>>96029387thats okay, I dont expect to be doing particularly well, I just want a deck thats not a complete brick with no wincon that I can play at my LGS for when they do standard
>>96029402you could also try some form of green landfall, cards like sazh's chocobo and tifa + cards that put lands into play, you can splash white for removal and protection
Trying to brew insect tribal with the leaks we've gotten is driving me insane. All the insect cards care about having as many creatures and lands in your graveyard as possible, but all the cards that specifically care about insects want delirium, and as of right now, there won't be any insects with addition card types worth running in post-rotation standard (rip Haywire Mite). I guess I could throw in some Overlords to make up for the lack of enchantment creatures, but that would just cut into my insect count, and at that point I'd probably be better off running a summoner/Overlords deck. I'll probably have to pad the deck with Adaptive Automaton regardless, but that will also lower the insect count and the only way to keep it up is with tokens, which demands I run pick related and the white Overlord. EoE better give some better cheap insects than what we've currently got. My only other hope is that maybe Blex makes a return in Strixhaven which'll give me a reason to run everything plus Enduring Tenacity (he's a pest and those have cared about lifegain in the first Strixhaven set).
brood
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>>96029491Not sure why that got cut off there, but I guess it gives me an excuse to mention I've also tried brewing with Broodheart Engine, which is just kinda okay, but it's the best thing I can do to create a compromise between the insect cards and the insect token-generator cards.
>>96027994STATION as mechanic will definitely live or die 100% based on getting support or not
>>96027205Bean reads 1G: draw a card
It deserves to be banned for that alone
>>96028118>>96028168Sideboard card for decks that shut down your ability to attack with lots of creatures at once
>>96028347>Zzzz just say "Destroy"...Nah I like this, sure it's functionally the same for the most part but the flavor of the mass of guns doing a mass of damage is cool
but I don't like the flavor of the mass of guns on a big space crusier to begin with, this set is too far outside the usual aesthetic and i'm convinced they're just trying to expand the aesthetic so crossover stuff sticks out less
>>96028347>Zzzz just say "Destroy"...You cant BOUNCE Destroy.
YOU CAN Bounce Damage, there are several creatures that re-direct damage to them to players
>>96029726Wow, it's fucking nothing.
>>96029751its more than "Destroy", you cur
Also combo with Massacre Girl to bypass Indestructible
>>96029726It could have just been 7 or 13 damage and been fine.
Bad artists rely on vapid sensationalism to generate excitement.
>>960297807 - 13 damage is not enough to ensure KO.
>>96029772>its more than "Destroy", you curShut up and give me my 100 life, loser.
>>96029726Yeah yeah, we all know this shit was made for commander. But let me tell this: not even there this shit will be amazing.
Enjoy your once in a life time using Boros Reckoner to kill someone with this shit lmao
>>96029786And that's a good thing. Well balanced combos are near-kills and should require additional gas go the distance.
Chasing auto-wins is bad design..
>>96029789Wow you tapped 20 damage worth of power to gain 100 life... Wrong general, mate
>>96029796They tapped the power, anon.
/mmg/ 4 years ago
>Wow those japanese tcgs are shit it is hilarious, why do they inflate the numbers with so many 0s
/mmg/ now
>Wow I love the 100 damage to a creature, I love the -0/-9999 to a creature, I love the +9999/+0 on the cactus !!! Please MaRo, fuck my girlfriend!
>>96029810More and more each day, it grows more embarrassing to be a shill and have to say the shit they have to say.
>>96029810>I love the -0/-9999 to a creatureWhat card is this?
>>96029818anon, it's in this very thread
>>96029225By not being a coward
>>96029834>Tap it to Station 10Congrats, you aren't attacking now.
>>96029838>attack with some 1 cost flierCongrats, I destroy a creature every swing.
>>96029843This sounds like a deck that would lose.
>>96029847First time seeing a johnny deck?
>>96029843>Sheltered by GhostsCongrats your ship just got Slimerโd
>>96029854No it's just a shit idea that sucks.
I hate ya retards here but this is a good place to leak
a Star Wars crossover slop that is coming 2026
It was testing recently
>>96029935Fake news, Gaysney doesn't hand over licenses to their adversaries. StarWars has a card game using the license and Disney has another card game ready to snatch the license for some crossover action.
(If it was Star Trek then it would be believable)
>>96029935Cool, thanks for the tip. Either way, I wonโt be surprised if this is either real or fake.
>>96029935Inauthentic and homosexual. (You)
In case you guys missed it
The mythic lands are an entire cycle of station-12 and are ALL going to be totally fucking unplayable mythics
every one is:
>etb tapped
>make single color mana
>station TWELVE to unlock
the one spoiled was gaea's cradle
the blue one is tolarian academy
the white one is serra's sanctum
etc etc
>>96029935UMMMMM PROOF'??? sister!
Do you think in 2026 or 2027 that we'll see WotC abandon political correctness in DnD and MtG?
>>96030096Do you understand this game is being made by true believers, not bandwagoning soulless corporate types?
They're more likely to make a whole set themed around transgender transitioning than to walk it back
>sold entire collection but still favorite game
>still play weekly with thousands of proxies either from mpc or my printer
>found out there's a Legacy scene some of my friends attend once a month
Alright /tg/, this is it. I think it's finally time to delve into actual bootleg cards and build decks for irl tourney play. Have been researching chink vendors & looking in to weathering older cards like Revised duals. Pretty sure I want to stay a cheap kike and get counterfeits of any cards over $5 as they will cost me anywhere between $1-2 per card. How many of you use the no-no cards for sanctioned play? I'm talking about actual bootlegs here, not proxies. Happy to read any and all stories.
>space set
>all spaceships are driven by the Ancient One
>>96030137why the fuck do you keep spamming this garbage card
>>96030138cause its a high Power low cost card, that it cant attack or block is irrelevant when it becomes just Charge Token Generator for STATION
>>96030137this dudes about to boldly go where no spirit god has gone before.
Im playtesting proxies in my group
station is the worst mechanic they have made ever, including sweep
utterly unplayable garbage
turn 2 I fail to make a creature drop to keep up on board because I played a station and tutored out a legend for turn 4. Then turn 4 I play it. And have to keep it on block so I dont fucking die. Turn 5 I chained removal sweet path is open. Do I attack in and deal damage, or do I station 4/7 of my seriema? What a fucking joke. You can practically get a 3 mana 5/5 flying nowadays hell they have us a 5/4 lord with no downside for 3
>>96030135There's not really a specific story to tell, it's just the usual know what the cards do and don't dress like a hobo while putting a tabernacle into play
>>96030177it's a limited mechanic to get value out of your warp creatures. It'll be mainly for non-aggro decks and you'll only want to play 1-3 stations.
not everything is for constructoids.
>>96030135won a couple FNMs recently with a Modern deck where every card over $5 is chinaman.
some of them have obvious errors and it sketches me out when opponents read them but I get less anxious about it every time I play.
if it's for FNM-type stuff you should be fine. I'd be too worried for REL level events with a deck that's half proxy.
haven't brought my chinaman Legacy deck yet because some of the staples are bad and the Legacy guys are mostly tourney players who must know their shit.
Funnily I can weather the Tab though to be passable but the foil Mox Diamonds don't look quite real, and the Explorations are pixelated.
>>96030244its a shit mechanic meant for Commander
>>96029810>Wow those japanese tcgs are shit it is hilarious, why do they inflate the numbers with so many 0sI've been here since 2021 and I never heard of this.
>>96030269Appreciated. Not sure about your concerns. BL is still very busy making cards that seem to pass from what I see and read. In the 2010s when I played paper Modern, BL was one of the go-to sellers and seems to still be going strong from my recent research, but I don't have hand-on experience for a proper recommendation. Despite that, I'm sure BL has good Explorations and passable Mox Diamonds. Not sure about foils though. Personally, I'll be non foil only to help keep under the radar. Will also get retro frame fetches from MH2 & 3 to also help with not being obvious. Onslaught art for the first five fetches are all mid anyways; There, I said it, fight me.
Gas Station
Land
Tap, pay 1 life: add R
Tap: put 5 charge counters on target artifact
>>96027994Station as an ability is so bad that it makes me wonder if it's like Forecast from original Ravnica block where a designer REALLY wanted it and pushed for it but none of the other designers wanted it so they let them have it but made it purposely really shitty so it couldn't break anything
>>96030349It is a commander ability
Whenever you ask, why is this here, it's because it's designed for commander
>why was the rat package pushedcommander
>why does Cori Steel existcommander
>why is station badcommander
>>96030096The only way theyโre giving it up is if Hasbro forces them to for profit reasons, which is very unlikely since they keep posting increases in sales.
>>96030349on paper seems like a good idea
>vehicle but its permanent on practice
>Cost its too high>Do nothing till then >no protection or acceleration support >No trade off for tapping several creatures either
A) They made it bad on purpose
B) is tailored for Longer , Slower games (Commander)
C) there is support but we have not seen it.
The same was with SPEED.
sorry friend this is wizards of the coast
Gas Station
Land - (Rare)
Gas Station enters the battlefield tapped.
Tap: Add colorless
4 colorless, tap, tap an untapped legendary creature you control: Put 3 charge counters on target artifact. Activate only as a sorcery.
>guy brags about winning an RCQ
>find out he went 2-1 and got homie scooped for every other game
>didnโt even have to play an actual match in top 8
Letting people who already qualified enter RCQs was such a mistake
>>96030415But we already had the exact template for how this kind of design can work
They just produced it a couple years ago
Compare these two cards:
>2 mana>sorcery speed>when this enters, you may discard a card. If you do, draw two cards>---->You may attack this with 4+ power of creatures. When you do, flip it>---->it becomes a 3/3 creature with 2R, Tap, discard a card: Create two 1/1 blue and red Elemental creature tokens. Creatures you control get +1/+0 and gain haste until end of turn.vs
>4 mana>sorcery speed>when this enters, draw two cards, then discard a card>---->You may station this with 7+ power of creatures over multiple turns. When you do, animate it>---->it becomes a 4/4 creature with flyingThe former card is literally rotating out as the latter card rotates in
>>96030269>the Legacy guys are mostly tourney players who must know their shitA guy at my LGS who has been playing since Revised looked at my fake Tabernacle front and back - I was lending it to someone - and complimented the condition.
>Mox DiamondsI've used both BL's and Usea's without issue. BL even has a Japanese one now that can help dodge any concerns you might have about the text. In face Usea's ones look even better now, I have the oversaturated one on the right as well as an older BL print.
>Explorations are pixelatedMany, many proxies have this issue but it's not really a problem unless someone is closely inspecting the card. I've been BL ones for 2 years without issue and Usea updated his 2 months ago.
>>96030332>Not sure about foils thoughAvoid foils from BL, foils from Usea are alot better but as with everything you need to check each individual card. Not to sound like a shill but Usea's newer cards (~<=2 years old) tend to be better quality overall but he takes longer to produce them. BL is more likely to have stuff ready to meet the demand as it breaks upon the shore.
>>96030492I wish I got the STH Mox Diamonds, would just weather them and be happy to play.
I got USea's FTV ones because they were said to be better but I play in the kind of store that has real ones in the display case and with one look I knew the foiling was completely different.
You have any advice for sleeving setups that would make it less likely for an opponent to tell a card has some pixelation or is less vibrant? I'm just double sleeved on KMC perfect fit + matte for now.
>>96021553>Artifacts gay, gonna dimirWell, I'd argue you are just trading one type of gayness for another.
I feel always a fuzzy feeling when i see this "leaks" never show the actual good cards.
>>96031297play Arena, there's no edh there
>>96030135i have a fully foiled out modern deck where 54 out of 75 cards are from usea or bl, no one has spotted a single fake card in it
you'll be fine anon just double sleeve, play confidently and don't go full retard (no playset of foil onslaught fetches, no 20 guru lands on your elves deck, no alpha lightning bolt, lol)
pulled this
is card covers by ultimate guard good or should i put the car in something else?
>>96031297Starter Deck event on Arena and watching YouTube videos
or have friends that bring you in to play casually with them and teach you whatever format they play
>>96031297set your money on fire
that's a preferable way to waste money that doesn't involve giving it to Hasbro
>>96031775>void is to revolt what eerie was to constellationgenius
>>96031775>nonland permanentthank god
fetches were a mistake
>>96031804Why beef on fetches? They add good mana fixing and a deck manipulation tool out of your mana base, not to mention deck thinning
>>96031877>They add good mana fixing and a deck manipulation tool out of your mana base, not to mention deck thinningYeah
The final EOE story. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/edge-of-eternities-episode-11
>Sami is running from the monster thing, asking Mantis what the hell it is, Mantis calls it an 'eld'
>Sami says that's not helpful
>The wounds the monster has taken are pretty quickly healed, and the mechans turned to chalk
>Tan notes that 'eld' means it's old, Mantis clarifies that yes, it is, because everything in Pinnacle space is 'too new', because space SHOULD have been conquered already, so the 'eld' are likely something responsible for that
>Every so often they find something older, and then the Drix deal with it, and Sami questions why one hasn't shown up yet
>Another monster bursts out in front of them, different but similar enough to clearly be related
>The mechan carrying all three of them immediately pivots to a different direction, taking them to a half-empty hangar
>There's a ship being held in a protective web, either being refitted or stripped for parts
>Tan immediately starts looking it over, and Mantis interrupts him, saying he's clearly trying to make a weapon, but weapons don't seem to work on those
>Tan works out WHY this is the case, because most of the monster isn't where it is, it's somewhere else, so how do you hurt something like that?
>Mantis suggests burning or poisoning, Sami suggests electrocution, Tan admits those MIGHT work
>But before that discussion carries on, tentacles arrive
>Mantis goes "Well, I'm more expendable, so you go and do this" and the mechan tosses Sami and Tan at the ship
>We get a wider view of the battle outside, following a Sunstar knight, Cataline, charging the Thinner of the Monoists
>It doesn't go well for her, so her squire, Isidor, tries to help
>He is turned inside out for his efforts
>And we're told shit like this is going on all over the place around Guideline
>Mentions, briefly, the hungry monsters, that eat everything, exept the Monoists, because these monsters eat potential, and Monoists only have one end
>>96031884Fair. Sadly that card sucks! Canโt compete with the 1 drops
I still think this card will be nasty as fuck
>>96031945>Anyway, back to Haliya and Vondam and also Alph's here too>Vondam speaks to Haliya about how sometimes you make a mistake so bad there is no fixing it, you can't apologise or make it right, you just have to carry on, and his mistake was not killing her when she asked him to>Haliya WANTS to tell Alph to get out and use the stone, but she's too stunlocked to really say anything>Alph makes an attempt to move but his boots are immediately cut off by Vondam, leaving him unable to walk in the awkward Kav armor>Vondam continues, saying everybody has flaws, but we can choose to rise above them, however choice means we can choose wrong>And the Endstone finds our worst choices, forcing them on you, and when it can't, it finds a weapon capable of hurting them to make them fail even more>He turns to Alph, asking if it was him who put the hole in his brain>Haliya finally talks, saying the error wasn't his, it was her's, she took the Endstone away>He agrees, saying that she made that error, and it was his duty to end her life for that, but he did not, because love outshone duty>He opens up his gauntlet and extends a hand to her, asking her to come back, that she's the best squire he's had, that she'd be a better knight than him without the stone>She wants to turn him down but finds it hard to, but eventually works up the courage to say something else>As she starts talking to him, saying she had to do what she did BECAUSE of the Sum, she finally realises what she HAS to say>Because the Sum has to include choices people make too, and if she responded to the murder of the Kav with obedience and honour, she'd be creating a path of victory that leads through the death of thousands>She doesn't believe the Sum should EVER need to go through thousands of dead innocents, she basically says that she has to be the reason that the Sum does NOT improve when actions like that are taken, because if it does, she'll push against it, weaken it
>>96031775Sure, pixie really needed thoughtseize.
>>96031796Not the same, the nonland clause matters way more than the warp.
>>96031994>She basically says she can't like the Free Company win given what they did>Vondam tells her to make sure she's not biting her tongue when he hits her>Alph steps up, awkwardly, and tries to lunge at Vondam, who yells at him that he already gave Alph mercy once and is about to cut him in half>And Haliya doesn't want to see a helpless man cut in half>So she attacks Vondam with her own weapon, enough to drive him back>Vondam turns back to her, then proclaims that she has now been degraded from being a squire, she has been formally cast out of the faith>She's panicking, but she says she understands>She can't let the Kav have died for nothing, after all, so she makes her choice, and the fight begins>Back to Man, Tan and Sami>Mantis has bought them maybe twenty seconds, during which Tan has jury-rigged something from the ship's parts>Sami's darting about trying to find the last piece Tan needs, but then the monster starts coming for them, Mantis is PROBABLY dead>Sami finds a random stasis cask that's supposedly full of contraband and opens it up intending to find SOMETHING to use, and inside is...>Mirri, somehow>She's been in a stasis cask this entire time, apparently, as she hasn't aged a day>Sami reaches up to open their helmet to try and reassure her who they are, but she hears the approaching monster and weftwalks outta there (this is just a thing cats can do)>Sami panics and starts looking through other casks, trying to find her, maybe she went into one of those>Tan yells at Sami that the monster's coming, and Sami 'luckily' finds the cable Tan needs in one of the casks, tosses it at Tan, Sami wraps one end around their rapier>The thing's switched on, Sami's rapier electrifies and they stab it right at the monster>The cable connects to the monster and it pulses and spasms and SEEMS to be defeated>And then another creature hits Tan from the side
>>96031998it works but is not as bad as hopeless nightmare
>>96031775>nonlandFUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU
LET ME TRIGGER VOID WITH MY FETCHLANDS YOU FUCKS
>>96031775When they will allow me to discard lands from opponents?
>>96031775>the major hanging plot point for all of EOE is that it seems to take place both in the past and in the future at the same time (relative to other planes)>finale story: fuck you we won't answer anything, have a new thoughtseize variantI honestly don't know what I expected.
>>96032033>Back to Haliya and Vondam, Haliya has landed a hit which has done absolutely nothing to him because knight armor is really damn good>He fires back and, despite her best efforts, hits her too, though she's not hurt enough to matter>The fight starts proper, and Haliya finds herself jarred by how similar it is to all the times she's sparred with him>There's no hatred between them despite it all>She knows she'll lose a straightforward fight, but she recalls one of Vondam's own teachings, that ANYTHING can happen in a fight, and anyone can lose one>So she tries to basically play keepaway>He yells at her that he can't kill her, she knows that just as well as him, but he can still wound her with something she can survive, like the hole in his brain>She thanks him for the idea of holes, then runs back towards Alph, with Vondam pursuing>Vondam says Alph can't intervene, he's being kept under watch, Haliya says so kill him, he says he can't, he's defenseless and Vondam is still a knight>Haliya says that didn't stop him with the Kav>He pulls back, and says he had to, protocol>She retorts that that means it wasn't him, then, it was the Sum>This answers the question of 'what was wrong', and she finally comes to the conclusion that the Sum itself is>Anyway, her plan is to use the hole in Alph's hand, which Vondam doesn't know about, but how can she help Alph use it if Vondam will just cut anything down to get to him?>Well, he'll cut down anything except Haliya, so she puts herself between them>Vondam immediately blitzes her, but then Alph jumps on her back and she's slammed into Vondam, who can't attack Alph because Haliya's in the way>He manages to cut off the gauntlet of Alph's armor, exposing the hole-y hand>He grabs at Vondam's neck with said hand, who immediately starts trying to cook Alph alive
>>96032075That was never a thing. The Edge has echoes of things from the Multiverse, that's just how it is. People read too much into that. There's a cat called Mirri on a ship because there was a cat called Mirri on a ship in the Multiverse.
>>96032067>When they will allow me to discard lands from opponents?never? (Basic) Land Interaction is close one of the most dread things devs talk about
>>96032083>Kavu are native to only Dominaria as they were specifically engineered by the plane its self to defend against Phyrexians, they were feral animals with only enough sentience to fight>EOE has intelligent Kavu who have potentially lived longer than the ones on Dominaria for some reason? Its fucking stupid.
>>96032100>engineered by the plane its self to defend against Phyrexianslol
lmao, even
>>96031775this is probably pauper viable and could be the reason they would ban the other 2cmc sac artifact/creature draw 2, holy shit
>>96032092This devs are shit anyway but also cowards. What a bunch of clowns. Imagine thinking how Land Interaction will hurt many retards fee fees after you printed Cutter and Mice package altogether.
>>96032076>As that happens, Haliya jams her thumb through Alph's hand-hole, which goes right through to his vertebrae... And she pops Vondam's vertebrae apart from within>Back to Sami and Tan, Tan immediately being assaulted by a second eldrazi>He fights back best he can, but the monster just regenerates any damage>But the new flesh it pulls in is burning, somehow>And it keeps trying to heal until there's nothing left and it falls>Sami runs to Tan, asking how he did that, Tan says it wasn't him>Then a new arrival shows up>It's a Drix, telling them that Tan should really wash off all the potential matter on him, which will attract the eld>Tan asks if this Drix saved him, they sort of say they did by basically saying their staff is attuned to the place where the eld dwell, allowing them to hurt them more fully>They introduce themselves as Barrow, he we heard that name before>Barrow informs them Mantis was saved, says they have to go hunt what's left, and also to inform others to get the potential matter off themselves>Barrow weftwalks away, and then Sami says they CAN'T leave, because Mirri's here, she has to be>Sami goes through a panic attack while Tan tries to get them to focus on the task at hand>That doesn't work so Tan just wraps them up in a hug and pulls them away, then says he can't decide what to do next, Sami has to>Are they gonna finish the job or look for Mirri? Sami's choice>Sami realises that Mirri would go to a safe space, like another stasis cask, and realises both choices lead to the same outcome and says they know what to do>Back to Haliya>Vondam has collapsed, though he's not dead yet, but his armor's basically useless without a spinal column>She begins to make her report to him, that she must lessen the Sum so that it amends its calculations towards mercy, and also to pardon Alpharael>Vondam tells her to kill him, she says he knows she can't
>>96031775Tezz going for the ass grab.
>>96032133I mean, Land destruction really is the totem poll head of NO FUN ALLOWED
>>96032133>Getting ran over non-game):<
>Getting all your lands discarded/destroyed non gameOOOO:
>>96032134>He carries on, the Sum demands he stop her, she thinks he's trying to get her to stumble by playing on her love for him, he says no, he wishes to be killed because he's not himself anymore, he's what the Endstone has made of him>Alph chimes in, saying that she clearly doesn't want to kill him, so don't>He then turns to Vondam, saying that obviously he can't make things right, so go live with his failure, beg the Kav for execution, or let the Sun burn him to a crisp, Alph doesn't care what he does>Vondam tries to ask the Endstone itself why it needs to leave Sothera, Alph almost sarcastically responds with some Monoist shit that he doesn't really believe>Alph says he has to go get the stone to get the ferry codes, and asks Haliya if she's coming>She says she is, and talks about how though she's out of the Free Company, she IS still a Summist, so she's effectively on errantry now>Vondam asks one last time how they could let all this happen, Haliya says it wasn't the Endstone, he just shouldn't have killed those Kav>Then she says she won't see him again, he says she will, she's his responsibility even now>Then they go>Goes up a Revision to 16 as we go back to Sami and Tan, ominously>They've gone back to the Seriema, but they find a massive Monoist armored figure beside it>Sami immediately rushes them, demanding they let the ship go, but the figure basically says they want the Endstone to do what it wills>Sami is flabbergasted they sent all these people, the monsters, everything, just to get Sami to do the thing they were already doing>Sami asks if they can just go aboard, the figure does, but clarifies they WILL be accompanying them>The figure is about to introduce themselves before they're violently murdered by Tezzeret with almost no effort>He demands them to get on with things already>Alph and Hali are flying back outside of Guideline to the Seriema
>>96032142Yeah noobs are going to get mana screwed regardless no need to poke at an already weak aspect of beginner deck building
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>>96021207 (OP)BUT IT STILL GETS HIT WITH THE DISENCHANT!
>>96032142if you dont destroy the lands, you literally give the game to green stompy ramp.
kill Timmy before he puts down his fucking Kolaghan again
>>96032203>you literally give the game to green stompy ramp.Green Stompy ramp not been a thing for a while
>>96032163this but unironically
losing to game actions > losing to rng
>land destruction
which format?
>>96032173>They've got a warp ferry with them because Alph has now guessed the code in this revision I guess>Then a Sunstar ship fires on them, but before anything happens, one of those delayed impact fields from way back when is deployed by a Monoist>Alph isn't one to question help so he just urges Haliya to go>They get to the Seriema, Sami is glad to see Alph and hugs him>The cask containing the Endstone is next to them, and they look ready to burst with excitement>Because Alph needs the Endstone now to stop a paradox from maybe happening with what the revision just was>The cask is opened up... And there's the Endstone... And a meow behind it>And Mirri walks out and Sami can only cry with joy as she plays with their face>Tezz reminds them they still HAVE a job to do>Tezz hands Alph a map, and wants him to repeat the trick with the crystal>He does, Tezz says "okay, we warp that way until we find whatever the fuck made this Endstone">Mirri's put back in the stasis cask for now, to keep her safe, because Sami doesn't have proper food for her>They're about to start the warp, but the time-delayed impact field is still there and it makes it impossible>Sami panics internally, and then Sunstar Knights start boarding the ship>So they thrust out of the field, and immediately activate the warp, which tells them the column is closed>Sami plays a game of chicken with the ferry's systems until it realises the safest way out of the incoming danger IS to warp, so it warps>Later, they're all celebrating in safety, even Tezzeret offering a toast of congratulations>Haliya doesn't think there's much to celebrate after so many have died>Sami, deflecting this argument, shows Tezz the view of the warping>Also, it turns out they're heading to the Wurmwall, which is PROBABLY not good>Alph brings out the Endstone, which Tezz notes has shifted, losing its facets and becoming solid black
>>96032194Ah yes. White is truly the strongest color.
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>>96032203fuck timmy gon do bout it?
>>96032211wherever you can play
Boiling Seas
Acid Rain
Bend or Break
Anarchy
Flashfires
Raiding Party
Stench of Evil
Tsunami
>>96032213>Haliya asks Tezz what his deal is, he explains he has an affinity for metals, and was fascinated by Sigma's Reach, a place abundant with metal but no miners, and soon met Mm'menon, who taught him about things>Tezz realised his organisation in the Edge was weirdly lacking in the specialists he would send to a place like Sigma's Reach, suspiciously so, so Sami notes he must have realised the Endstone was making them vanish>Sami asks why, Tezz says he was not YET a route to leave Sothera, and he also realises that the Endstone could have easily redacted his own knowledge of it, but it did not>So Tezz sent the most desperate pawns he could and made it his intention to take it where it wanted to go>Sami notes that where it wants to go is bothering them, and talks about the Wurmwall, and Tan starts to panic a bit>Tan, after leaving Kavaron, worked in search and rescue near the Garden and Wurmwall, and on one of those missions, he met Sami>There's some talk, and eventually they realise they're going to the place where Sami's old ship, the Wurm Speaker, was attacked>And then the ship's engines stop>And something has grabbed a hold of the ship within the warp>The Endstone begins to move, and a hole in the cosmos splits open and a beautiful creature steps through>It's like living light wearing a mask and armor that look to be made of hardened leaves or some such>Alph grabs the Endstone, then screams in pain and drops it>The figure grabs it before it falls, then moves towards Alph, cupping his face>It calls him blessed, touched by the core>And then Alph passes out>Haliya immediately lunges at the thing, which catches her, losing two fingers in the process, then grabs at her throat, seemingly crushing it>Tezz grabs the cut-off fingers>The figure turns to Tezz, saying he smells of aether, and the Wall>Sami asks who this figure it, is the stone theirs?>They say they are the last thing, so the stone comes to them
>>96032209>Opp draws the nuts (aggro)>I don't draw removal/mulligan for removal>LoseThis is rng, evil, mean, bad design!
>Opp draws the nuts (land discard)>Get my lands discarded>Take no game actionsThis is hecking fair and balanced!
LT4s ain't beating the allegations lmaoooo
>>96032260>It turns to Sami, saying 'not here, not now', then says "the serpent needs a hero, find me if you can, put your lance through my heart", then disappears with the Endstone>Sami rushes over to Haliya, demanding Tan get her to a bunk before she dies>Alph's just out, and Tan tries to get Tezz to help him>Tezz just says "Oh, you DO have something like a Planeswalker here">The fingers begin to leak a purple light, and he remarks that was very aspirational>Sami has no idea how to respond, they just hug Mirri, and for the time being, they're okay
>>96032255>Anarchythat's not LD, commanderbab
>>96031775Wow just look at how Wizard's high fantasy take on space opera, a Magic the Gathering branded set that tries to adopt the setting of science fiction into the thematics and fantasy of a sword and staff world of wizardry
lets take a close look at that art
why yes, those are coffee cups
the big story beat is some nigger bitch spilling a cup of coffee
they stopped just short of putting a starbucks logo on it
>>96031998Technically pixie already had a thoughtseize. It was just typed for faerie.
>>96032279Plains are white Permanents
>>96032284>coffee cupsdon't you mean
>tea, earl gray, hot
>>96032211All eternal formats, 93/94 and premodern have relevant land destruction.
Modern isn't an eternal format.
>>96032291only viable way to destroy lands is via wasteland and other lands.
>premodernnot a format
>>96032287plains are colorless, like every other land
>>96032284>the big story beat is some nigger bitch spilling a cup of coffeeThat's your take?
>>96032297>Stifle>Termokarst>Acid moss>Dust to dust>Deglamer>Big fat ETC...Also
>moving the goal postsI accept your total, absolute and incredibly emasculated surrender, shitter.
>>96032311Based pauperGOD.
Can't believe loony troony 4channies still try to argue just to get instantly BTFO.
>Killed by 16 damage on turn 3 like you are seeing in Pioneer and Standard before bans
This ok, nothing to see here, i'm fine, you are lazy players :D
>One island/mountain/multicolored land dies
NOOOOOO MY SPELLERINO!! YOU CAN'T DISCARD MY MANARINO!!! UNFAIR, UNFAIR!!!
This game is full of sissies.
So, the being that took the Endstone is probably a Vaar, as the side-story mentioned. Clearly resembles the art we saw there. Beyond that, feels like not a lot was really answered, mostly just sort of vaguely setting up stuff. I guess Tezz will uncover some shit about the Vaar, who're probably Fomori-related (because SOMETHING has to be at this point), and we'll get a clearer answer of "Hey how the fuck did Tezz even get here" later down the line.
>>96032297>>premodern>not a formatIt is a format.
>>96032214Mono White sucks, its an open secret.
White is the BEST color to pair with.
Orzhov. annoying as fuck to deal with, removal central.
Boros. can I get a Mentor? Can I get a Mobilize? Can I get a Training? Can I get some soldier tokens? AKROSIANS! WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION? AHOO! AHOO! AHOO!
Selesnya. created one of the best most beloved mechanic in the game: Convoke.
Azorious: made Blue control decks even more suicide-inducing by adding removal and banish.
every deck get better with white. White doesnt do much on its own, but paired with anything else it makes the whole a lot more powerful. White is the color that enhances everything its paired with.
>>96032328I don't even care at this point. The entire EOE story was a nothingburger. Object is given to unknown big bad / big good, Tezz is in space. Those are the only two things that "happened". I can't believe I'm saying this but it actually would have been better if it was gay Bolas at the end because at least then all of this sort of mattered in any way, shape or form.
>>96032337mono-white control is currently doing well in post-ban standard
>>96032337competitive deks are almost always not mono color
>>96032310Chris Rallis drew a picture of a fucking coffee cup on a magic card for an in-universe set
Remember back when you could have diverse human characters on a literal spaceship in MTG lore and they wouldn't be drawn as woke check box fillers with immersion breaking bullshit around them?
If we're lucky they'll reprint Instant Ramen for a second set in a row
>>96032346>>96032351of course, that's on par, I was responding to
>>96032214 because of my reply to the OP here
>>96032194
>>96032355Not my question at all. Is the focus of this art someone spilling a cup of coffee? That's the big story beat?
One more sleepy until we see how EoE will fuck our game, yay!
>Spacecraft
Vehicles, but worse and all prior Vehicle support is bricked.
>Warp
Adventure, but better.
>Void
Revolt, but without flavor.
Amazing job, design team!
>>96032344It's the first part of the final arc of the current ongoing story, it's mostly set-up. Bloomburrow was the same.
>>96032484Prediction:
Not a single Station shit see plays, is literally Aetherdrift trash again.
Warp enables the most degenerate shit you have seen and fuck many formats
Void see some play in niche cards
Eldrazis come back to Standard to fuck it
Slivers get some attention but are still unplayable
>>96032485Nothing at all was set up. Tezzeret is in space (we know this immediately). That's it. It is a hat set all the way down.
>>96032501>Eldrazis come back to Standard to fuck itas long as they dont get Annihilator, we gucci
WARP tho, Alterntive (lower) cost always end up enabling annoying shit.
>>96031877NTA but that's the issue, they're too good and offer way too much versatility and fixing for a land card
>>96032317Lt4 melty lol
Post troph-
Oh wait!! HAHAHAHH
>>96031877Fetches are companion level of design mistake. Untapped rainbow lands with a billion free synergies that add 5+ minutes of shuffling to every game in every format they're legal in.
A deck should not be able to effortlessly play more than two colors. The colors should be manageable. Four and five should not.
>>96032682Fetchlands and typed untapped dual lands are the strongest cards in the game but we all pretend they are fine because they let us play more decks.
This is a truth nuke that shitters can't wrap their brains around.
>>96032682> Untapped rainbow landsBefore Ravnica and the nu-sets, it was limited to duals in legacy or vintage. Extended and standard only used them to get basics out of the deck to fix colors in the onslaught/odyssey block before nosewater ruined standard with affinity.
>a billion free synergies that add 5+ minutes of shuffling to every game in every format they're legal in.Most of the synergies really only came later. Landfall in particular did not exist until zendikar. Most of the free synergy prior could only be gotten by using cards based on lands in the graveyard or threshold which happened whether or not you put the land there to fetch, discarded it through some other effect, or drew with the cycle lands. This is mostly a nu-mtg problem. Prior to all the nu-mtg effects, it was just 2-3 instances of sac to get a basic to play something while reducing the odds of drawing lands.
>>96032779>Before Ravnica and the nu-sets, it was limited to duals in legacy or vintage.Yeah, they're fine without typed duals, but typed duals already existed and expecting them never to print them again for lands that are shitty and annoying to play with otherwise is just asinine.
>Most of the free synergy prior could only be gotten by using cards based on lands in the graveyard or threshold which happened whether or not you put the land there to fetch, discarded it through some other effect, or drew with the cycle lands.Except if you're doing that, you're paying some other cost, not just playing your fixing land and getting a card in the graveyard for free.
>This is mostly a nu-mtg problem. Prior to all the nu-mtg effects, it was just 2-3 instances of sac to get a basic to play something while reducing the odds of drawing lands.Blaming nu-mtg for inevitably exploring design space as basic as playing lands, interacting with the top of your library, or caring about cards in graveyard instead of the lands that break those mechanics is retarded.
>>96032351>Mono blue tempo>Mono black demon Annex>RDWHmm, seems like it actually can be, JOTC just refuses to let White be strong as per the Hasbrews mandate
>>96032862>getting a card in the graveyard for free. Draw first, pass first turn, put card in graveyard on discard for free. Just like the dredge deck did.
>>96032556They do offer a lot, theyโve got teeth and are powered for eternal formats, rare to see them pop off in standard to the level legacy can. Iโm just a fan of them, especially when they printed the slow dual lands finally letting us get 2 mana off them without dropping a grand
>>96032883>0 for 1ing yourself and skipping your land drop(and having to be on the draw) is exactly the same as just playing your already nuts rainbow land. Most intelligent fetchland defender.
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>>96032906>he doesn't know how dredge works>still has the nerve to call someone retardedOH THE HORROR OF A FREE DISCARD
>>96032927It's not "free" in the way that Imp's ability is 0 mana and it's not discard. You played the game and there is now a land in your graveyard at no cost to you, it's just there because you made the difficult deckbuilding choice of including rainbow lands in your deck. Threshhold is now 1/7, Delve is now retarded, your Goyf is now a 1/2, your Brainstorm is now draw 3 reshuffle 2.
It's the difference between Deathrite Shaman being borderline unplayable and ban worthy.
Just here to remind people that Duskmourn was the first mainline set since Fallen Empires to feature both +1/+1 counters and -1/-1 counters, breaking one of the longest unbroken design rules of MTG.
>>96032865wizards can't wait to edit wikipedia so the color white is rewritten as a discredited conspiracy theory
>>96033009>now a land in your graveyard at no cost to youYou can put any card into your graveyard for free and win from it with the right deck.
>a land in your graveyard at no cost to youA fetch land costs you one life and gives your opponent the opportunity to stifle your fetch. There are costs both mechanical and in terms of opportunity cost.
> rainbow landsPlease post the land which produces mana of any color that can be fetched with one of the fetch lands. There are typed two color and three color lands but no typed dual lands.
>Threshhold is now 1/7And I need 6 more cards in the graveyard. If I'm building around threshold, I'm going to get to that 7 as fast as possible regardless of whether or not I ran any fetchlands.
>Delve is now retarded, your Goyf is now a 1/2Ah yes, proving again that you don't know how to run delve.
>Brainstorm is now draw 3 reshuffle 2There is no reshuffle from brainstorm nor any graveyard-based effects from brainstorm. It's only draw 3, put two from your hand on top.
>>96033051>orange man gets into power, mono white gets shit on for years >orange man returns to power, JOTC must now shit on white again so as to not have Caucasians squeal about โwhite powerโ in MagicFOR TOO LONG, FANTASY, AS A GENREโฆ
rate my idea for card
Land - mythic
enters tapped
taps for {W}
Station - 12
Once stationed, taps for {W} for each enchantment you control
would you play this??
>>96033142You continually miss the point and power of something being "free" you're either trolling or the single dumbest poster who has ever found this thread, and that's saying a lot.
>Please post the land which produces mana of any color that can be fetched with one of the fetch lands. There are typed two color and three color lands but no typed dual lands. A Misty Rainforest can fetch any Green Dual and and Blue Dual. If you're playing a 3 color deck, it is any dual you would want. If you're playing a 3 color deck and splashing a couple cards, it can be a green or blue land while still grabbing your splash color.
>There is no reshuffle from brainstorm nor any graveyard-based effects from brainstorm. It's only draw 3, put two from your hand on top.Yes, and what does the last line of your precious rainbow lands say? Have you never played legacy or zendikar standard?
>>96033155I'll just have to squeal about White power outside of Magic, while blasting Kanye's unedited latest single
>>96033217>being "free"Except it's not free. You pay a life for the classic fetch lands or it comes into play tapped in the case of the newer fetch lands.
>If you're playing a 3 color deck and splashing a couple cards, it can be a green or blue land while still grabbing your splash color. So what? I asked you a question. Where are these typed rainbow lands? Fetch lands are not rainbow lands. Nor are dual lands.
>Yes, and what does the last line of your precious rainbow lands say?We were talking about fetchlands. Why do you keep bringing up rainbow lands?
>Dune reference
>Star Wars reference
>Among us reference
>Starship troopers reference
And we are not even in the middle of the spoilers season.
>>96032269literally yes. it's not only as if different formats should be different but also because one needs more cards (rng) to stop than the other
>>96033229I-I wasn't expecting this answer
would you mind taking a short survey about magic the gathering collectible card game?
>>96033305Are you ready for MTG DISNEY UB?!!! The MOUSE deck?!
>>96033327They have their own card game.
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>>96030694For some reason the post I'm trying to make is being marked as spam so please just read my reply in this screenshot.
>>96033627 the webm in question.
>>96033029That can't be true, Amonkhet ha-
...Holy shit they didn't. Why did I think Amonkhet had +1/+1 counters?
>>96023421It actually says draw 2, discard 3 old magic card wording is very bad
>>96032117>>96032100Anons, don't try to make sense of all the lore bullcrap that wotc has put in the last 7 years. It is just not worth it. They don't care, you should not care too.
>>96025978what were they thinking man