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>>Previous Thread:
>>96026732

>Thread Question:
What army do you wish you started with instead of your current one, or do you love it?

>>96030441 (OP)
started with orks, wouldnt have it any other way

>>96030441 (OP)
I started with space marines. Wish I went with guard, but the thing is my only options at the time would've been plastic catachans or the first version of the plastic cadians, both of which look awful.

>>96030441 (OP)
I started with Necron because I like machines. I still like machines. I fucking love robots bros. I might have regretted it if mechanicus had kept the grungy techpriest enginseer style but instead they went with their weirdo spindly da vinci stuff that I don't vibe with so in the end I remain loyal to my robot skellytons.

>>96030441 (OP)
you keep making threads early again, and using the same factions for the op, your shit fucking sucks.

I started with GSC, I could maybe have started with Orks since their rules seem fun but I like it overall.

Imperial Agents expansion is coming...
I can feel it....
>TQ
I really do regret starting with tau but on the bright side it taught me how to play with more unconventional strategies and factions. I don't get how imperial guard players keep saying "The IG is the closest to humanity and is the most relatable" whe the tau empire are right there doing pretty reasonable and realistic imperialism. Their whole plight is being rational in a irrational world but also being major silver tongued lying assholes who think they are better than everyone else for it. I love their lore and the way they are characterized but I couldn't see myself painting tau without an airbrush.

>>96030441 (OP)
>I started with AdMech and wish I had started with any other army but this

>>96030476
>Their whole plight is being rational in a irrational world but also being major silver tongued lying assholes who think they are better than everyone else for it.
Sounds familiar.. oh right eldar.

>>96030441 (OP)
Started with orks way back in 2nd ed, then when I got back into it years later with 8th ed I picked up dark eldar, than orks then CSM
I enjoyed painting my dark eldar and CSMs but really could have just stuck with orks all along

>>96030441 (OP)
I started with Imperial Guard in 3rd Edition and I have no regrets.

Proud chud with 0 media literacy here, inspired by Starship Troopers.

>>96030477
Pussy, I started with admech and I still love these goofy motherfuckers

>>96030441 (OP)
>TQ
started with marines and wouldn't change it
no other armies I've dipped my toes into have been as fun to brew up a scheme and backstory for, the closest I've gotten is my necron dynasty

>>96030441 (OP)
>TQ
Started with Necrons, don't really like what they did with the lore and rules, but i like the addition of more canoptec stuff. Changed to Nids and GSC. Wish i started with nids.

I need cool painting ideas for an Eldar army. Going to avoid doing any existing craftworld colours, but not really sure what kind of scheme to go with. Any recommendations are good, also looking for interesting ways to paint the aspect warriors while still keeping them recognizable.

>>96030551
Orange and teal

>>96030567
10 reddit gold has been deposited to your account for this epic maymay!

>>96030568
uh oh, melty

how do you go about winning against eldar? they are an interesting army but my god they have so many abilities its hard to follow all of them

>>96030551
Imo the big problem with official eldar schemes are the single colour bodies and everything being too bright and plastic looking.
As far as aspect colours I just find a single element to add a unique colour or pattern to like a helmet, plume or hair.

>try dirty down rust
>looks like shit and get dissapointed after drying
>get a wet brush and try and wipe it off
>suddenly looks really good
Is this the way you're *supposed* to use it?

>>96030551
For my aspects I use classic colours but have each exarch have the same khorne red that is on my main army for something - e.g the hair plume on dire avenger exarchs, the fire pike tip on fire dragons, the skull shoulder plate for dark reapers.

>>96030441 (OP)
>TQ
I started with admech
all regrets but i wouldn't change it
models got me to improve my painting, price/bad sculpts got me into kitbashing and learning to magnetize and the complex and/or bad rules made me git gud (still a wip)
its been a task, but very fun

>>96030441 (OP)
why the hell are there 5 40kg up atm?

>>96030640
This is ridiculous. We should get a new thread once we reach image limit, at least.

>>96030571
if you fight eldar on the regular you don't have an excuse not to sit down and actually read (learn) their rules.

>>96030652
Peer into the mind of a brain cooked tourneyfag.
Nobody normal into 40k gives a fuck about armies that are not their own (even then I'd argue they dont care about units they don't use).
I've been playing since 5th and I still cant tell the difference between a termagaunt or a hormagaunt. Or the different variants of Land Raiders, and I still enjoy the game very much.
I cant imagine suffering through a dozen ever changing rules for armies you'd never own, and *maaaybe* encounter once or twice.

>>96030676
It sounds more like you have some kind of learning deficiency.

>>96030441 (OP)
>TQ
Started Dark Eldar. Still ride it due for Dark Eldar.
I will not give up on Dark Eldar no matter how badly GW wants me to.

>>96030441 (OP)
>TQ
Started with Grey Knights (daemonhunters). A small part of me wishes I had started with Orks because they're so kitbash-friendly. bring back looted vehicles.

I'm contemplating buying kharadron and running them as votann.

>>96030676
>brain cooked
>I still cant tell the difference between a termagaunt or a hormagaunt

Sounds like you're the one with the cooked brain, bald boomer FUCK.
I'm not telling the guy to learn the rules for every army in the game, he is clearly stating he has issues following what Eldar are doing during his games. IF he plays against them on a regular basis then it would be beneficial for him to learn what they can do.

>>96030695
don't

>>96030695
You shan't

How much alcohol while painting is too much?

>>96030676
>still cant tell the difference between a termagaunt or a hormagaunt
Hormagaunts are the cute ones.

>>96030709
So much that the paint wont dry properly or the models start melting from your breath.

>>96030713
You are the cute one.

>>96030716
Not him but AAWWWW. NICE!

>>96030676
What is this mental illness called where someone takes pride in purposefully remaining an ignorant retard?

What's the best option for getting a mass of hormagaunts cheap? Are there any good STLs?

A reminder that for Holy Terra, the Imperial Fists are the epitome of what a Space Marine should be.
Fuck all the other chapters and legions!

>>96030731
>for Holy Terra
Worshipping a dead man on a throne that hast killed people for worshipping him, is the epitome of everything... i would not trust them to be right with anything.

Is there any STL/3rd party bits for the rough rider horses? I'm not a fan of the robes nor the leg armor

>>96030731
A reminder that for Great Britain, british cuisine is the epitome of what a meal should be.

>>96030743
You can take the sosij rolls from my cold dead hands

>>96030709
>drinking alcohol
lmao
do proper drugs like a big boy, you pussy

>>96030693
>costs the same as listed in the other codex
>BS reduced
>have to roll every turn to see if it moves

was there any benefit of taking a looted vehicle? it doesnt seem very FUN

>>96030741
Have you considered to Google? Pretty much everyone who sells STL for guard proxies has a cavalry proxy too. Makers cult, ghamak, station forge.. they have even more than one.

I always wondered why the Dark Angels insist on wearing hoods.
I understand the part about robes and wings, but hoods take away a lot of your vision.

>>96030741
Just off the top of my head:
https://www.medburyminiatures.com/product-page/6-horses
https://wargamesatlantic.com/products/horses
https://www.essexminiatures.co.uk/collections/25mm-horses-mounts
Finding horses shouldn't be that hard. Even GW used to sell plastic horse sprues.

>>96030778
its because they are gay, anon. not as gay as blood angels, but quite gay in comparison to the rest of the chapters

>>96030782
Forgot this one:
https://www.conquest-games.co.uk/index.php?cPath=28_29

What's going to come out in the near future of 40K? More primarislop, or something that actually matters?

>>96030441 (OP)
>TQ
Started with CSM, and they'll always have a special place in my heart as the coolest army. If I had to start over again from scratch I'd probably still do CSM but I've been having a lot of fun with Votann as my second army so who knows?

Unrelated but I'd probably start an Imperial Agents/Arbites force if I didn't think GW will completely abandon them by next edition. Judge Dredd in space fucking owns.

>>96030798
That will be announced on the 18th.

>>96030798
>attaching someone elses model to your shitpost
tried to be slick didn't ya

>>96030798
>the things that matter to 40k? iron warriors in HH armour (no chaos)

>>96030783
Blood Angels hide their gayness from nobody
Dark Angels hide their gayness from outsiders
Space Wolves hide their gayness from non wolves
Black Templars hide their gayness from themselves

>>96030766
Looted Guard vehicles such as Basilisks or Russes were often worth it, the drop of BS was more minor and it gave you access to vehicles with stronger front armour and/or greater range then wholly Ork vehicles.

The Drop from BS4 to BS2 and their slightly weaker armour/higher cost made most Space Marine vehicles not worth it.

>>96030798
The former

just played a 1k game against some guard
He had a rogal dorn commander + leman russ but I managed to kill both really quickly, the first with scourge dark lance spam and the second with a cracked out incubi archon charge, then just hunted down his remaining infantry
dare i say lore accurate

>>96030783
oh you'll die for your battle brothers but a little stress relief is a step too far

>>96030876
>wings
Not canon.

11the edition is going to be the Elf Edition! Last phase of Craftworld refresh, big Dark Eldar refresh, and the Exodites!

>>96030903
stfu faggot

>>96030907
uh oh marinepig melty

>>96030907
I'm an Eldar player, calling me a faggot just makes me hard

>>96030782
This edit is badly done.
The mask should go over his mouth.

This looks so bad.

>>96030935
It looks bad because it's a loyalist tank that GW just lazily covered in random bits to make it "chaotic".

>>96030695
You can’t have cool looking dwarfs in 40k, so no.

>>96030945
True.
Votann are plain and the old squats just look retarded.
Better to just remove dwarves from 40k all together.

>>96030903
11th edition having an Eldar panoply as primary antagonists theme would be so fucking funny I would almost love to see them try to spin it.

>>96030907
Are you saying you don't want to a of new lore about Space Marines killing Eldar? Who are you, gay?

>>96030926
You can have a mask hanging down.

>>96030731
>Somehow both fail

>>96030765
I like beer to much anon. Sometimes wine with sprite.

Just imagine the number of new units we could have if specialist games didn’t soak up the release schedule
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/6ojnf0ga/palanite-enforcers-unleash-their-unique-brand-of-justice-with-new-officers-weapons-and-a-book/

>>96031037
if the sidegames manage to make this many kit it's specifically because they get to sell comparatively more for the budget they get to make them.

>>96031037
Imagine all the blobby marineshit they could be releasing.

Necromunda is literally just a better game than 40k.

>>96031062
you wouldn't know, you play neither

>>96030578
Why is single colour bodies a problem for eldar and not for marines? I agree that I can look plain, but it's not guaranteed.

>>96030940
That is not an issue, but it looks bad because both the tank kit as well as the "random" pieces are 25 years old and there is nothing really chaotic about the same 15 chaos bits and spikes from the upgrade sprue.

Hello does anyone have the Emperor's Children codex pdf. Please share it sirs

>>96031115
high quality post

>>96031141
It is in the mega

>>96030441 (OP)
>TQ
still happy with Imperial Fists and SM in general. but sometimes wish I could re-paint everything as a homebrew chapter I came up with after I was already deep into the IF life

>Berengar put a hand to the blade, but the field of black energy was spreading outwards through his chest, eating away his armour, skin, and the flesh beneath. He stumbled, dropped first to one knee and then the other, his head suddenly too heavy for his neck to bear.

>‘His Champion you may have been,’ Tamaris of the Blades whispered in his ear. ‘But we were His children.’

>God-Emperor, forgive me for this failure, Berengar silently implored. So little strength remained to him now. Only enough to stay on his knees and raise his eyes to watch the Black Sword as it came down and took his head from his shoulders.

POGGERS
10/10 WRITING

>>96031144
Yes your initial post was extremely high quality and more of what this thread needs (not)

>>96030441 (OP)
Started with the guard. Tried to get out but the commissar insisted that I sign the contract again.

>>96030958
I was surprised they didn't just add them as a unit to the IG like Ratlings. Votan are fugly and retarded

>>96031163
>more marvel tier bolter porn
Horus heresy’s success was a mistake

>>96031163
holy fucking CRINGE!

>>96031163
>‘His Champion you may have been,’ Tamaris of the Blades whispered in his ear. ‘But we were His children.’

Get it!? Because he's an Emperor's Children fighting an Emperor's Champion

Something something poetic irony or whatever

>>96031217
>>96031163
This shit reminds me of the part where Vulkan beats up Curze with his warhammer because... because Curze wanted to mock a trapped Vulkan by giving him his broken teleporter hammer.
Reddit pissed and shat themselves in le heckin awesomesauce but the hack writer just wrote a grown adult, much less a "superintelligent" primarch, handing a FUCKING HAMMER to a prisoner and not expecting to get bludgeoned.
>"It's also a hammer"
Yeah no fucking shit, did nobody tell Curze he's giving his prisoner a weapon?!

>>96031189
t never read it

>>96031163
Is it me or does the book kinda hint that Fulgrim fucks his own sons

>Fulgrim leaned closer. The grip on Mauvais’ chin tightened, forcing his face upward until he was staring almost vertically into Fulgrim’s blazing violet eyes. ‘You have failed me. Explain yourself.’ Mauvais knelt transfixed, his every muscle locked rigid under the weight of his lord’s regard. ‘I am yours in all things, lord.’ His own blood trickled down his chin, running in rivulets from the tip of each of Fulgrim’s gauntleted fingers. How long had it been since he felt his gene-father’s touch – how long since they had stood in such intimate proximity? A hundred years? It might easily have been a thousand, but the time had slipped away like sand in an hourglass, leaving no trace behind.

>Fulgrim nodded appreciably, sending a gust of scent – night-blooming flowers, freshly laundered silk, an ineffable sweetness that was uniquely his own – rising from his spill of silver-white hair. ‘Were we not boon companions, once? Were we not close, closer than brothers?’ Mauvais bit back an unworthy thought – it was not I who deserted you, lord – and instead focused his attention on holding Fulgrim’s fathomless gaze. ‘The hours have been long in your absence, my lord.’

I'm glad they stopped selling this box. Every time I went to the store there was like a 5% chance I would buy it and you can only roll that dice so many times before it comes up

I'm not interested in the new box, bikes are cooler than Aspect Warriors

>>96031239
Curze is a crazy retard tho

>>96031163
>Berengar silently implored. So little strength remained to him now. Only enough to stay on his knees and raise his eyes to watch the Black Sword as it came

>>96031239
>>96031163
Apart from the few rare exceptions BL has always been Marvelsloppa

>>96031139
>both the tank kit as well as the "random" pieces are 25 years old
That by itself says nothing.

>>96031037
Just imagine how good 40k would be if they put as much love into it as they do for specialist games. Instead we get 10th and primaris.

BL is slop but its fun slop and I like it.

>>96031282
>inb4 GW defender (for free) demands your models without a model pic

>>96031282
Primaris are king.

>>96031294
He now calls everyone nomodels instead and goes muh deflection when called out. it's best to just not engage

I am quite fond of terminator armor

>>96031037
imagine if they never made votann and used those dozen moulds to flex out the millions of half finished army they already had in the game
imagine is marines didn't need 500 subfactions with unique models because primarisfags cant kitbash basic shit

>>96031239
Clownrad Curze is not a serious character. You're not supposed to take him seriously. He's there for laughs.

Alright change of pace what’s something in new 40k that you’re positive about

>>96031294
I unironically hope he's a paid shill because being a corporate bootlicker for free would be straight up pathetic

>>96031329
Yes, it's great it's a shame that GW decided to pollute Space Marines with gravis

Is there really a reason for why traitor guard end up looking the way they always seem to do besides designers just wanting them to look evil and badass?
>slightly related
Are real life military regiments always close to resembling Mad Max dudes if discipline isn't maintained? Which may explain why traitor guard regiments always look the way they do?

I can't wait until WGA's The Damned come out.

>>96031351
Anything new for Necromunda. Its true 40k imo, the mainline product has been and continues to be guided by literal marvel comic book writers hence why its so dogshit when it is made to focus on a primarch.

>>96031362
The unknowable, unfathomable, impossibly vast eldritch gods outside and above all space and time just think spikes are neat.

>>96031163
Meanwhile the chad Fabius Bile books
>discovers cloned Fulgrim, keeps him because it’s his Primarch
>he’s untainted, begins to hope for his legions potential future under a new primarch
>has to wrestle with his New Men following the new fulgrim, when he wants them to succeed where the legions failed
>wants to return to those glory days but it would just be repeating the legions mistakes
>has to decide between his new race succeeding or trying to resurrect the legion
It’s still bolterporn but at least there’s SOME attempt at delving into something deeper

>>96031362
>Are real life military regiments always close to resembling Mad Max dudes if discipline isn't maintained?
Yes

>>96030769
>Go to 40k forum to ask 40k question
>"Google?"
What's the point of a forum again?

>>96030782
Not what I was looking for but thank you still

>>96030510
you dont play do you

>>96031362
Yeah its designers just wanting them to look evil and badass
>Are real life military regiments always close to resembling Mad Max dudes if discipline isn't maintained?
If discipline isn't maintained you don't have an army but a group of armed men who run at the first sign of trouble leaving all their gear beind.
Any military force that sends armed men across the stars in space fleets and is capable deployment on the planet below, the baseline standard for 40k, is a disciplined army.

>>96031396
>It’s still bolterporn but at least there’s SOME attempt at delving into something deeper
Oh yeah, all the cringe feminism.

>>96031362
>Chaos makes people mad, mad people do mad stuff. MAD TO THE MAX (mad max)

>>96031401
There are questions and there are questions Anon. This is not the place to get spoonfed. Next someone asks where to buy Warhammer models.

>>96031396
Also had this pretty cool bit.

>>96031362
going traitor means being cut off from proper supply lines and relying on scavenged and cobbled together gear, often melee weapons because they require less maintenance and supplies, also the gods like melee

going traitor means becoming surrounded by monsters and beasts of all sorts in a crude environment that weeds the weak and the unprepared, spikes all over help preventing getting eaten or grabbed by things (it's practically anti-bear armor)

spikes and various grisly trophies are also religious elements that can have genuine and tangible effects because the attention of the gods is real

mutations and tainted environments can cause issues with breathing, requiring gas masks, furthermore, while some people embrace the ugly side of the blessings of chaos, others do not and hide those features, there's also an element of zealous depersonalisation in the service of higher powers, these two elements are especially prevalent in the lower ladders of chaos, where people don't really walk the path to glory and revel in that individualism

>>96030578
is that drybrushed? looks pretty good. most all-over drybrush attempts look like shit and people make no attempt to improve at it

>>96030724
being an American


>>96030741
>more print lines

cmon James at least TRY to sand or photoshop it away

>>96031435
>going traitor means being cut off from proper supply lines and relying on scavenged and cobbled together gear
Unless you hook up supply lines with darkmech by being powerful or useful enough, or you create your own supply.
There are small chaos empires that go toe to toe with massive crusades like the Sabbat World Crusade

>>96031411
What feminism? That some of the main characters are women?

how edgy is too edgy for your own OC lore

>>96031362
Spikes and asymmetry are also subconsciously associated with morbidity and negative emotion. That works on a design level, but it also works in-universe. The Chaos gods feed on, and reward, negative emotion. They are gods of asymmetry and disorder.

>>96031449
That's edge cases, the grand majority of chaos doesn't have those luxuries, even at the level of marines it's not that common.

>>96031362
>if discipline isn't maintained?
Yes, in that case, and assuming they are in the field, things go south quick. There is a reason for grooming and uniform regulations. Now add to this some officers who literally hear voices of demons (and think it's a good idea to follow those orders) and some of the men start to collect ears, noses and even skulls of their enemies.
Apocalypse Now should come to mind too.

>>96031435
You don't even have to go that far. You had incidents of trophy taking, skulls as ornaments on vehicles and all kinds of grizzly stuff in Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq too. Also the Ukraine-Russia war has literally soldiers painting khorne symbols on their vehicles. Ofc it's a meme to them, but what would happen if some demon would reward them for that with some boons. It would spread fast as a new best practice.

Supply is also a thing. If you can't get replacements for your stuff easily, you either fix it (looks crude) or you use whatever you can loot.

>>96031455
I remember it being more blatant than even that, but thankfully it's mostly passed from my mind.

>>96030741
Madrobot and Victoriaminiatures have horse riders.
Pic related are victoriaminiature's Polish Hussar inspired rough riders.

>>96031423
>This is not the place to get spoonfed
>Asking about specific STL to replace specific bits in a specific kit

Here is a pro tip: if you don't think a question is worth being asked or answered, just don't reply to the post, you'd save people a lot of time wasted.

>Next someone asks where to buy Warhammer models.
Yeah god forbid someone could redirect them to somewhere that has discounts, dear god!

did the bomb squig today. still needs a couple highlights but mostly done.

Why are squigs so hard to paint and layer? Their skin is so weird and amorphous. I'm starting to consider just treating them as contrast fodder. I gave in and just painted it bubblegum pink with some carroburg wash for definition.

>>96031428
people always misunderstand this but because they didn't read the book. the reason he says nothing is there is not because he thinks the warp isn't real or demons don't exist. Its because he "correctly" views the chaos gods as a natural manifestation of scientific phenomena. They aren't sentient out sapient like an animal or advanced AI is. They are literally echoes of actual peoples lives and feelings. They are the reflections of our mental universe. When he says there is nothing there, he is saying he attributes no more malevolence to them then a he would a hurricane or volcano. Destructive, terrifying, world shattering; but not alive, merely a product of natural processes beyond human understanding and prediction.

Of course, he's wrong in the sense that many demons clearly are capable of reasoning and sentient. And he, like all of chaos' pawns, its just another tool that foolishly thinks itself in control.

Its based.

>>96031478
I like the look of these, they got the right amount of gear on them, cheers anon

>>96031362
IIRC in the first chaos books, it said something like pointy bits and things like that are homages to the gods, imitating real mutations like tentacles, spikes and other chaos boons

>>96031461
theres never too much edge

>>96031492
Have a good one! They're available in STL form or sioplastic I believe.
I'm not familiar with Sio-plastic so I'd still wash them as if they are made of resin.

>>96031461
When you feel it's too edgy

There should be a pool of battle shock effects and your army gets one guaranteed and the second one is rolled for
i.e. there can be a battle shock effect to take mortals on fails, make the eldar always have this battle shock effect, and fluff it as them getting so scared that they get too emotional and Slaneesh eats them

>>96031468
>some of the men start to collect ears, noses and even skulls of their enemies.
>grooming and uniform regulations
I disagree that these things are at odds with army discipline. The Golden Horde were highly disciplined and experinced and they had no grooming standards, their uniform was their own clothes they would wear until it rotted off their body, and armour they took from dead enemies. And took the ears of dead enemies and civvies to make a 'count' of how many people they killed

>>96031517
Hardly a modern military force.

>>96031362
>I can't wait until WGA's The Damned come out.

It's over two years since I gave them my money. And they released like 40 different plastic sets in that time, but "the damned is such a big project for us.. it's 11 sets at once"
Oh fuck off WGA, just ship my plastic.

>>96031524
Yeah but in 40k its every era of warfare all at once. Also don't forget the humble guerrilla

>>96031534
>It's over two years since I gave them my money.
>And they released like 40 different plastic sets in that time
>"the damned is such a big project for us.. it's 11 sets at once"

I wasn't expecting WGA to do an oopsie like this. You think they got cold feet since the Damned resemble the Vraks somewhat?

>>96031362
Real world traitor/militias/random warlords armies, tend to have troops with random crap added to their "uniform"

My single greatest hope is that Mike Brooks writes a book so bad that it kills off Black Library for good

today I will remind them

>>96031517
This behaviour is just what is visible on the outside in addition to what is going on in the inside of those guardsmen. You can not compare RL ancient trophy taking with RL modern trophy taking, and both can't really compared with 40k, because the background culture is completely different. Also the reasons for a fall to chaos can be completely different depending on each regiment. The novel flesh and iron gives a great example for when they finally join the chaos forces, it's no longer belief or discipline that keeps the soldiers in line, but fear of their officers. (They did not shave or wash long before that)

>>96031566
I have no idea about any black library writers apart from C.S. Goto back in in the day, Why Mike Brooks specifically?

>>96031566
People talk about Black Library books being schlock.
Maybe there has been books that are "so bad they're good" but has there ever been a book released "so bad that it becomes inspiring?"

>>96031557
Like chaos cultists I'm pretty sure that kind of stuff is related or is Gris-gris, their battle magic, trinkets that make you bullet proof, invisible etc. So a lot like chaos goons with chaos trinkets to help protect them

>>96031572
>THe DEADLIEST creature in warhammer?!

>>96031579
Let’s put it this way, his first Ork book was an admech book in disguise. Like 60% of the book was admech POV chapters vs Chaos

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96031037
Necromunda weapons upgrade kits are such a shit show.
There is always a flamer for some reason. This particular kit has weapons that already exist on the current enforcer kits. Sniper, Shock, autopistols, shields, manacles, concussions.
The only thing worth a damn is the webgun and that is only if the change the house list.
Also power knife lol. They would need to also change the WS and A stats of the enforcers and even then I rather have chainsword than those.

>>96031596
Yeah, and one of the AdMech characters was a tranny.

>>96031556
They don't resemble vraks at all in my opinion. They just go carried away by their 50 different projects and I am willing to believe that the damned were very low priority for them as soon as the money was collected.
They are making them, and I'm sure they will deliver them this year, but if they would have wanted, it could have been done way faster. All their other stuff is proof of that.

To add to that: during the campaign it was clear that they went with some "cheap" solutions, like copying the helmet less faces from the infantry sprue to some of the other sprues, until people were very vocal about it in the comments.. then they added some other heads to some of the later sprues.
Or that the pattern of scratches on the armour pieces of each trooper is just copy&paste textures and it's pretty much always the same..

>>96030441 (OP)
I started with Sisters of Battle in 4th edition. I wouldn't trade it for any other army at that time, especially now because I love my metals.

>>96031603
>Necromunda weapons upgrade kits are such a shit show.
I would still prefer if 40k was based around weapon upgrade packs instead of limiting wargear to stupidly made kits.

>>96031599
I hope you feel the sting of a harpoon in your fucking thorax

>>96030441 (OP)
>What army do you wish you started with instead of your current one
Orks, IG or Tau.
>or do you love it
I did until primaris decided to destroy all the units I loved. At least drop pods are still around but those haven't been worth shit since 7th.

>>96031582
I’m reliably told CS Goto is bad for shit like backflipping terminators but that’s more someone shit at writing 40K rather than a bad book.

GW quality control is impressive in that it’s just bolter slop rather than bad

>>96031603
>autopistols
yeah that particular one has always struck me as weird, who would ever want autopistols in their "upgrade" packs, there's no way to run out of auto/laspistols. It's literally impossible.

>>96031617
True. I'm just confused as to why the necromunda team insist on making weapons for existing weapons in the current kits.
I would not mind a second option if they also included other things, like for example basic kit has plasmagun, shotguns heavy bolter and autoguns. The upgrade kit should have lasguns, GL, flamer, melta and maybe other heavy weapon.
But instead current necromunda just go and gives a kit with variations of shotguns and autoguns and flamers.
It's just odd

>>96031579
he puts gays and trans people in his books and it triggers chuds. and he looks like this (lmao). that's it. other than that he's a slightly above average BL writer. I met him in real life at an event and he was a nice guy.

>>96031659
I don't trust anyone over the age of 25 who still styles their hair in a mohawk

>>96031659
Being a ‘nice guy’ doesn’t prevent you from writing shit books

>>96031659
>he was a nice guy.
Bet he's a nonce. Looking like that and with a polished nice guy routine? Definite nonce.

>>96031582
Ian Watson book was so bad it inspired GW to treat it like it never existed. It's bad depending on how you like your 40k setting. I personally think a lot of it is peak 40k and is the level of strange and weird it should be
>pic related
I do love a character that's horrifically mutilated and wounded being so blind and brainwashed they see the system that destroyed their body as a good thing

>>96031681
is he not a war victim? its imagine a marine that disfigured would be proud of his sacrifice depending on his temperament.

>>96031705
I'm assuming he's not offended by his wounds, but by the neophyte saying they are a "ruined" temple and not a mark of his sacrifice.

>>96031639
Necromunda would benefit so much of the old style of weapons and hands.
Just the fist and the handle and an open palm

Do Space Marines still have the eagle-tism they had in the heresy? Like have all these different variants of the eagle

>>96031681
We need more tracked marines.

>>96031659
>I met him in real life at an event and he was a nice guy.
That is the case with most bad writers who get work because if they're pretty personable and hit their Deadlines on time, Editors will always see as a massive positive and give them more work because of that.

>>96031486
The trick is to paint patterns and go wild on the squigs. It's not like you have to respect wirings, ruvets or pannels on these things.

>>96030617
literally every video says to remove it after letting it dry for a while leaving only in the recesses bwo

>>96030979
>The Ultramarines have a rivalry with one of the most pathetic legions.
>That legion has been missing for almost 10,000 years.

In what sense is this a good rivalry?

>>96031748
>and hit their Deadlines on time

The single most important feature of any writer.
You are either Stephen King, GRRM or Rowling tier in your writing, then you can do whatever you want. Or you are not, then you better hit those deadlines, because otherwise someone elses stuff will get picked next time.

Is this dark Eldar refresh rumor legit? Considering getting them as my first army.
Yes I don't have models yet stop pestering me creep.

>>96031733
Yes and worse

>>96031788
The refresh rumour in that one guy keeps saying ‘I can sense it’? No him and Valrak are both wrong you’ll get the end of 10th pity codex that’s invalid instantly

>>96031748
That's fair. I liked the lelith book though. The only other thing I read by him was the lion fight with a mortarion ghost with pocket sand which was hilariously bad and the moon binary ork bit Eric kind of made sense to me and felt like a good boy of culture shock between aliens.

How fun / viable / playable is an airborne guard?
>planes
>infantry guns
>low-level / light tanks.

>>96031807
Not at all.

>>96031807
guard planes are not good (like almost all planes in game)
you could run the scion detachment but im not sure its viable after the triple tap nerfs

>>96031572
What is happening here?

>>96031449
>Unless you hook up supply lines with darkmech by being powerful or useful enough, or you create your own supply.
And 99.99% of warbands aren't powerful or influensal enough to get said supply lines.
In reality even most CSM warbands are basically just pirates running around in power armor that's basically jerry-rigged junk cobbled together from whatever pieces they can get their hands on.
GW just doesn't show this off in the kits well because they prefer to sell uniform looking armies.
Basically Cypher is a perfect example of what CSM should actually look like. Just add some chaos spikes and trim and you got it.

>>96031787
rowling wrote 4 good books and coasted. I'm 99% sure that books 6 and 7 were ghost written. other than that she makes sjw detective slop they'd obsessed with trannies. why would you compare her to king who has written hundreds of books, some good and most bad. or did you just mean that you write one crazy popular series and never gave to work again or you are Stephen King and can pump out slop at a relentless pace? I think of anyone is the stephan king of corpo writing its dan abnett. very similar, insanely prolific mostly slop with a few genuinely amazing works mixed in.

Who would the GRRM of GW be? Someone who legitimately just was never able to finish their series.

>>96031824
the vast majority of csm are living in the eye of terror, and have access to infinite supplies. the problem is that the supplies can't leave the eye off terror because they are made of soul stuff. can't remember which codex it was but if definitely talked about massive fleets that couldn't leave the eye because they dematerialize outside somewhere where the veil is thin. So they need to steal real space ships and such to attack out of the eye, which is why they don't like raiding that much because real gear is rarer than ghost gear.

>>96031831
>I'm 99% sure that books 6 and 7 were ghost written.

That might be, but if her name is on the cover, it sells. Thats what matters.

>Who would the GRRM of GW be?

Abnett. Or has he finally released the last Bequin book?

>>96031362
Maybe if the war continues for another 3-5 years, they will start to add spikes to their vehicles too?

>>96031824
>And 99.99% of warbands aren't powerful or influential enough to get said supply lines.
I think the canon disagrees with your view of them anon. The Black Legion obviously has supply lines, they alone are more than 0.01% of all CSM, being the largest force of CSM, larger than even all the traitor legions, im unsure if GW means larger than them individually or all together.
Chaos Titans and knights would need supply lines being giant mech walkers. So any warband that has them would have some form of supply lines, and there being so many chaos knights means there's many different chaos supply lines across the Eye and now the Rift and in Nihilus. All the traitor legions have supply lines, even the WE, whose jackals do mass drop pod to arrive on planet each time.
I don't think the average CSM is poor and the jerry-rigging is more a choice to keep their HH armour marks going than them being forced to.
The traitor legions have some god specific/legion designed helms so they have enough supply to make their own armour to fit their own changed aesthetic sense since the HH.

On the other hand there should be dirt poor chaos astartes/ prisoners of war that are stripped of their power armour and used as glorified cannon fodder, like fighting near naked/ in just robes with crude weaponry. As like a punishment for failure or method of execution

>>96031852
>Snide remark about Orks here

>rumor of a Terminator Battleforce box
I’ll develop of a personal hatred of this fat man if it isn’t true.

>>96031843
nah, Abnett hits his Deadlines, theirs a reason he still gets BL, Marvel, DC and 2000AD work.
Apparently Bequin is being kept under wraps due to BL editors rather than Abnett himself

>>96031813
>>96031814
aw man. :(

>>96031857
>The Black Legion obviously has supply lines, they alone are more than 0.01% of all CSM, being the largest force of CSM,

While that is true, they are not a coherent force at all. They are a mass of independent warbands, that loosely follow Abaddon. Some do it strictly, some less so. And depending on that, you can assume their level of supply.

There are chaos forgeworlds, not only DarkMech ones, and other worlds capable of delivering supply. The Bile-Book 1 shows them visiting a marketplace for smugglers and renegades to get some supply.

Word Bearers and Iron Warriors certainly have their own means to produce and buy stuff. Alpha Legion probably has imperial forgeworlds producing material for them, believing its for the Imperium.

All of that said:
>I don't think the average CSM is poor and the jerry-rigging is more a choice to keep their HH armour marks going than them being forced to.

The average renegade probably is. The Legions of the HH are not the average renegades tho.
To reach a position among the "big names", to get some scraps here and there is what they have to fight for every day. While there are forge worlds and demon forges and countless shiploads of spoils from raids, its not like people like Abaddon or Kor Pharon would hand them out as welfare to random pirates.

>>96031468
>Now add to this some officers who literally hear voices of demons (and think it's a good idea to follow those orders) and some of the men start to collect ears, noses and even skulls of their enemies.
Didn't some US marine during the second world war give FDR a pen made out of a Japanese soldier's fingers?

>>96031831
>Who would the GRRM of GW be?
None, no BL author can write kino scenes like him. None of them write dialogue like him.

>>96031852
>>96031862
Now I want to make a guard army with monkey paintings to mock eldars (I love all factions in 40k I think they are all cool)

>>96031864
you should even if it's true

>>96031872
you could run mechanized detachment
I have heard its pretty good and kind of fits "elite infantry jumping out of shit" itch of airborne infantry

>>96031887
Fair points anon I agree with you. I will add I see supply lines in the Eye being a bit of a misnomer, I think most supply 'lines' are more forge worlds/ deamon forges that have supplies but you must go to them and get them payment for it, and not having supplies bought to you across the warp

>>96031857
>>96031887
Chaos marines having a functional army is just bizarre.
Hell any traitor faction would have issue due to the nature of the imperial structure.
Self sufficient worlds usually are not the ones producing war materials for interstellar war like forge worlds.
Chaos marines having something other than Taliban level militia is just silly

>>96031889
Probably.

>>96031911
Chaos Space Marines can control entire systems.

>>96031911
>Chaos marines having something other than Taliban level militia is just silly
And like the Taliban they looted left behind Imperial supply after defeating them and now have some really good stuff in vast quantities. Unlike the Taliban the CSM also have starships to go to the Imperials and beat more and take more loot

>>96031919
Yes and? They are still Taliban level of a threat. Is not like the Taliban are going to strategically bomb with aircraft carriers Chile just because they control a country.

>>96031940
Afghanistan is not much of a country. If you're at the level where you control multiple planets then you have some serious technological and organisational prowess.

>>96031940
As I said here
>>96031408
Baseline forces in 40k can move armies between star systems. They are all highly motiviated, experienced with incredible technological prowess.

>>96031911
they don't have more than taliban militia. they have cultists (literal half naked religious psychos with looted junk weapons a.k.a. the taliban), demons which require no supply lines and CSM who get their shit from raiding or demon forges.

the CSM brought their fancy armor with them.

>>96031915
Women back then knew the value of a present.

>>96030441 (OP)
>What army do you wish you started with instead of your current one, or do you love it?
I love my CSM and I don't actually regret going with them, but they were a pain in the dick to paint (I started 4 years ago and still not really done), if I had to do it again I might still go CSM because I really like them, but maybe some flashy magenta and cyan Nids or fancy ceramic and gold Necrons because that sounds less annoying to paint.

>>96030441 (OP)
>TQ
I become more and more interested in tyranids. Painting organic monsters just is fun.

>>96031911
Taliban is one example, for a more ragged chaos force. But dont forget that Chaos also has nazi-like work camps, but not just a camp, but a whole planet, of trillions of slaves working to their deaths in literal demon factories to make ammo or whatever else they need.

>Self sufficient worlds
It does not need to be self sufficient. If a Huthi or Taliban style warband wants ammo or guns, they have to pay for it, in form of new slaves. Quite simple.

>>96032156
They look nice although I am more partial to Behemoth's scheme.

>>96032156
>new raveners are basically snake-gaunts instead of snake-warriors

not sure if like

>>96032156
Still not painted the poison claws yet?

>>96032219
They are painted, dont worry. i was just too lazy to take a new picture yet.

>>96032228
Nice nice. Was a joke anyway.

Fuck iron warriors

what is your local meta and complaint about it, anons?

Too much of a focus on heavy weapons. The survival of my vehicles feels like a coin-flip where each enemy activation has them either have all wounds or no wounds remaining. I've been massing more infantry to counter this.

>>96032309
my bad, meant for >>96032282

>>96032265
How’s that gene seed from hydra cordatus you had to protect?

Is it a good idea to have a laptop near your hobby station to listen to music and or podcasts while painting? I sometimes use my phone as a music player with music YouTube videos but I hate ads.

>>96032364
you android?
you can get adblock on Firefox mobile and watch youtube ad free through that

>>96032282
In general? fine. Very small player base, only 10 or so players, everyone is playing in a Crusade. Mostly new, mostly friendly. however there’s still

>actually autistic teenager who spends all of his money on used pre painted ebay models and jumps army every few months, never bothers to learn his army, constantly interrupts other games to ask us rules questions, or ghosts after arranging a game. Hard to be mean to because he’s clearly a little disabled. (Tau)

>waacfag who describes himself as a tournament grinder, but only has greytide models. when he plays will take unopened miniature boxes off the store shelf, put on the table, and declare the boxes “ruins”. Frequently cheats or gets 9th edition rules mixed into the games. (Leagues of Votann)

everyone else paints their models and is fun to play against, so it’s not so bad. the old head Sisters player still rocking his metal sisters 15 years on is a highlight

>>96032371
No old iPhone6. To post models I have to upload pics to telegram get on my computer and download the pictures then crop the picture so it won’t rotate in gimp and then I can upload it here because wired connection to the pc no longer works so I am considering a new phone to use as a music player for when I hobby.

>>96031681
space marine is kino, one of very first books giving the universe its shape.

>>96032195
I'm a fan, by their bulk and torso shape they are still very plainly derived from warriors, but the heads make more sense for a burrowing animal and I like how yuge they are.

Now if only I knew why 3/5 of them have extra little talons on their shoulders and 2 don't.

How do you respond without coming off as a jerk?

There was chatter a few threads ago on how to handle meeting a modelposter from this general at the lgs.
What’s the protocol?
And did we figure out who the anon the anon met is?
Best “clue” we got was he is on the collage and “almost opposite of decalfag.”

space marine horde lists
I feel like I don't see these very often because marines are relatively easy to kill, but 70+ marine bodies and around as much OC is hard to chew through

>>96032429
You got me thinking about guard horde lists. Just pure infantry and no vehicles.
How viable?

>>96032423
your lucky are

>>96031911
gaunts ghost and the sabbat worlds. functonal systems.
yes they do. choas is not just orgys.

>>96032423
Meanie

>>96032440
one just won a GT iirc

>>96032423
AIIIEEEE!!! THANK YOU FARSEER-SAMA!!! ELF-SAMA!!! LET ME KISS YOUR TOES!!!

>>96032426
it was salman
>>96032429
that was a ninth edition thing
some frog fuck absolutely bamboozled a bunch of my team (myself included) at a team event with intercessor and firestrike turret spam

>>96032440
very very good into knight meta by just having too many bodies knights cant mow through your army because they don't have enough activations and normal armies are skewed anti tank to deal with knights so they also can't.

Agents actually does this pretty well as well.

>>96032309
good luck anon. what army do you play?
>>96032375
on the whole that sounds fine, but I imagine if you run into either of those players for games(or not.) week after week it might be a bad time. at least you can switch it up.

>>96032282
some of these fuckers need to sit down and read the rulebook themselves because it shows so clear they've only vicariously absorbed a vague idea how to play through youtube battle reports

>>96032454
>salman
I was thinking of the severanon
Since he is comically lazy in painting models isn’t a troll (I hope) is harmlessly autistic.
Decalfag (had to look up in archives) is a troll and pumps out models. Or pays someone to do it.
That’s all I got.
I havent seen any of his Roman posting in a while. Maybe he abandoned this general and I wouldn’t blame him if that was the case.
But then again one of the clues was he is on the collage so I might be wrong.

Show me your jungle and/or swamp terrain!

>>96032482
I am making washes for terrain so I have nothing to post. It takes more than 18ml washes to shade terrain.

Anyways concerning your pic
Oooohhh blueberries I must taste them hnnnng.

>>96032482
Huge jugs

>>96032475
>schizoposting idc bored at work
Hey severanon if you’re reading this get back to work and paint those models. Look up batch painting and do that.
I hope you’ve been cooking.

>>96032454
people are sleeping on this I swear:

Wolf Guard Battle Leader w/ Helm of the Beastslayer
Wolf Guard Battle Leader w/ Elder's Guidance

20 Blood Claws
6 x 10 Grey Hunters
5 Intercessors
2 x 10 JPI
3 Head Takers

105 marines, 245 OC

>>96032482
Sept Vi'et, stupid name aside (plus D'yannoi is already canon and in need of fluff) is one of the coolest ideas this board has had.

As hot as these blueberries are, though, I do have to question the wisdom of wading in thigh-high swamp water while wearing outfits that leave your legs bare. Redheaded bitch may have her thong showing, but at least she's wearing pants.

>>96032470
Thanks. I play Necrons. It's been great to lose a warrior to a lascannon shot and then have two or three of them stand back up imnediately after, but now I'm more vulnerable to heavy melee or sustained hits armies. My win rate hasn't gone up too much, but I'm forcing my opponents to second-guess themselves and it's been leading to much more varied (and enjoyable) games as a result.

Would the munitorum give tanks to penal legionaries?

>>96032571
Tau are resistant to xenos infections and trench foot.
>source
I made it the fuck up.

>>96032584
I'm not sure if they count quite as penal legionnaires but savlar chem dogs have various regiment types

>>96032585
I know you're joking, but arguably they are? The fact they have advanced medicine and actually give a fuck about individual lives means they are, in aggregate, more 'resistant' to xenos infections. They may get infected just as easily as Humans, but they are more likely to survive. And as for trench foot, I'm not too familiar with the precise details of immersion disease in feet, but wouldn't the fact they have hoofs instead of toes help reduce the risk since they don't have toes to get gangrene?

When using Precision attacks, you take the toughness characteristic of the bodyguard unit even if the attached leader's toughness characteristic is lower. However, if the weapon has an anti-infantry keyword but the bodyguard unit isn't infantry, can anti-infantry still proc or you just roll for the wound roll regular?
An example would be Sanctus attacking Technomancer (T4, Infantry, S3 Precision blade with anti-infantry+3) + Canoptek Wraiths.(T6, Beasts). How would it work?

>>96032614
I would think the fact they dont wear shoes so their feet aren’t trapped in wet and sweaty shoes for long periods of time also helps. horses and cows can get infections in their hooves but idk how common that really is

Are there any cool conversions for demons

>>96032663
Wouldnt techno give Infantry keyword to the wraiths so it works anyway?

>>96032676
no, nobody genuinely likes demons enough to make cool conversions for them, they're only taken when they happen to be overpowered

>>96032670
incredibly common
horses can barely survive in the wild, if they fuck up their hooves that's it, and cows cannot survive in the wild long
Tau have camel feet anyways, so they do in fact have two toes and a small hoof that wouldn't break like a cow or horses

>>96032684
Yeah I was just told that, they're both beasts and infantry as the keywords are shared across the whole unit.

>>96032676
find the special jaun diamonettes 3d prints
they just got nerfed into the fucking ground though, so

>>96032714
I don’t really care for those sculpts, I want something more artistic or abstract. Something like blanches drawings.

>>96032663
precision is declared after a successful wound so everything is rolled at the bodyguard as normal
only change is you use the leaders saving throw

>>96032706
Even though the wraith models don't have the infantry keyword, the unit as a whole will inherit it from the technomancer (attached units are counted as a single unit for all rules purposes, except those that work when a unit is destroyed). This works both ways, as the technomancer will allow the wraiths to use infantry-only stratagems and abilities, such as being teleported by a monolith or night scythe.

>>96032743
>>96032750
Thanks guys. I made a Sanctus with the bits I was given but I wasn't sure how Precision worked so I wanted to learn it proper. Never had anything with precision before, the characters I own don't have any good weapon profile to be utilized with Epic Challenge stratagem.

>>96032482
I only have forest terrain.

>>96031163
>>96031217
This shit is so gay

>>96032896
40gay, even.

>>96031249
The new box is so much worse than thise box

I'm kicking myself so hard for not buying this while I had the chance

>>96032699
Not exactly correect. People who do Tyranid conversions sometimes dip into Daemons since they're the only other Monster-themed army

>>96031163
Dude I love this shit. BL isn't high literature or anything but shit like this is so cringe it loops back to being kino sovl

>>96030441 (OP)
Started with Marines and Orks. Probably would go back in time and tell younger late 8th edition me to go Guard and have that be my sole army or go Deathwatch

>>96030798
>4chan filename

>>96032990
>derpwatch

dont do that to urself

>>96030731
Literally just yellow ultramarines. Your statement might have been believable if you were talking about their successor chapters.

>>96033006
Well its a good thing none of us are getting time travel anytime soon

>>96030958
Votaan are fine and I hope a 2ndc wace occurrs this year

>>96033012
Imperial Fists are actually much less gay than Ultramarines, even though their first novel is full of the writer's barely concealed fetish, scat, and fart porn
and that says a lot
everyone wanks over Sallies and Lamemers wanting to die to protect humans, but the Fists are the most human chapter and can't produce weird shit like the Mortifactors because they don't have some of the Marines' more weird organs

>>96033026
Ive come to accept the dwarves. my initial gut reaction was that they looked terrible, but they have a visually unique style compared to other power armies, I love their vehicles, and they’ve been more interesting to fight against than Tau.

I would still rather see development and balancing of the armies we have instead of introducing a new army at the end of each edition.

>>96031599
Dark eldar more like fart smelldar lmaooo

>>96033065
imperial fists are boring as fuck and have a dogshit paint scheme to the point that even GW refuses to give them attention and instead points to the crimson fists and black templars, stop trying to shill them here so hard

>>96033088
Nta but yellow is kino. It's a shame it's attached to the guys who do nothing interesting though

>>96033088
painting yellow is easier than ever, you have to let it go

>>96033113
>thinks people dont like their boring scheme because painting yellow is hard
no, it's because it looks fucking horrible, you want to see a good yellow scheme? Look at the howling griffons or lamenters

>>96033065
>but the Fists are the most human chapter
That's still Salamanders because they actually keep in touch with their families and home villages.

Where do you get your bases? Need lots of 32mm and 25mm ones as the guy I bought the sprues didn't provide any.

>>96032957
I'm more annoyed that he puts quotes around the first dialogue, but not around the second.
>>96033131
proont.

>>96033128
shit, dude, the space wolves do this and they are far from human
I mean human as in "they still feel, act, and think like humans"
>>96033119
>yellow and red is bad
>have you considered this yellow paint scheme, or this yellow and red paint scheme

>>96033143
>I mean human as in "they still feel, act, and think like humans"
Still Salamanders.
Fists are all autistic to a fault like their father.

>>96033131
Aliexpress more specifically wargamebaseworld store on aliexpress.

>>96033131
Warpfire minis under their cobalt keep section. Probably a bit overpriced for what they are though.

>>96033143
>have you considered this yellow paint scheme, or this yellow and red paint scheme
Yes, because those schemes actually do it well, unlike the slop fists

>>96033161
Lamenters are literally yellow, head to toe, with a checker pattern on their shoulder, and a knee pad changes color for company
Fists are yellow head to toe, with their aquila painted red and all details are meant to be black, their shoulder pad trim follows codex astartes so that changes based on company
howling griffons are not a yellow scheme, they are quartered yellow and red, and they more recently have gone black with quartered shoulders
at a distance you'd be hard pressed to tell if a fist army was a lamenters army or vice versa

>>96033190
Sorry to hear you're a blind retard, but I supposed that explains why you're so rabidly defending the worst loyalist legion

>>96030731
Imagine having a little brother that's cooler and more successful than you.
I'd eat my own shit too if I got overshadowed by my younger siblings.
>Dorn will return in 40k
>As a Black Templar primarch

>>96033198
no one is playing Black Templars, thoughbeit
they're in a bad spot right now
>>96033196
you seem upset anon, maybe you should go outside and get some fresh air

>>96033198
correct but its crimson fists

>>96033204
>nobody is playing black templars
okay retard

>>96033204
>no one is playing Black Templars
Most people dont play for the rules, tourneyfag, they play armies for the aesthetic. You can't get more 40k space marine than the Black Templars. Only the Space Wolves got a range refresh as good as their.

>>96030695
Wasn't the guy on the right in the fifth element

>>96033204
black templars are literally the most popular marines by a wide margin, to the point if you asked a normie who knows nothing about 40k what a space marine looks like they'd describe a BT

>>96030695
I want to like kharadron but the balloons ruin them for me

>>96033237
I thought Dark Angels were the most popular. They had a more recent edition starter box and have always been the biggest gimmick space marine army with unique terminators.

>>96033215
Crimson Fists are the younger sibling that got the PhD, and is quietly successful in his 20s.
Only people in the know appreciates them but they are very very appreciated.
Black Templars are the famous billionnaire siblings that is world famous. Very few people like them as much as those who likes CF like them, but much much more people like the Templars.
Imperial Fists is the failed 1st son that eats shit and had to get bailed out by his more succesful brothers multiple times.

>>96033255
dark angels are in a close second followed by blood angels then ultramarines then space wolves

>>96033221
>>96033237
https://40kstats.goonhammer.com/#GbF
https://www.stat-check.com/the-meta
use up to date stats, please

>>96030731
>>96033065
Imperial fists says black lives matter!

>>96033271
>tourneyfag thinking his opinion matters
lol
lmao

>>96033272
fuck off
>>>/pol/

>>96033279
goonhammer is pretty damn casual

The new Drukhari box leaked
1 Venom
10 Wyches
5 Wracks
Succubus
Talos

>>96033300
wheres Malys?

Can anyone ID the size of this base? 40mm or 50mm

>>96033342
Looks like a terminator so 40mm most likely.

>>96033342
your hand is too red

>>96033272
What do crimson fists say?

>>96033397
dead to the last man to orkz again, who knows

>>96032423
*our

>>96031915
If someone wrote a 40k novel where a guardsman is sending his family a war trophy present consisting of ork skulls, lots of folks would call it grimderp or ridiculous.

Once again real life is crazier than fiction.

>>96033401
128 + Come to Rynn's World and get your ass kicked and fisted you coward

>>96033445
Fuck you I think this is fun and cute, wish it wasn't AI
Gundam marine in the bottom right

>>96033445
>two left hands

>>96033457
that's Brother Captain Strangerius

>>96033457
nothing stops anyone from wielding a powerfist in the wrong hand.

>>96033457
brother-sergeant jaygeilus

Who is the anime and or manga equivalent of Ciaphas Cain?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIl6IQEOxeg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlW0FK8cPyE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRozBAIbaG4&t=52s

>>96033729
Completly off topic BS but there would be multiple, two of the most known right now maybe king from one punch man, or buggy the clown from one pice. despite doing shit they always get the praise.

>>96033497
I think I'd stop myself from wielding a powerfist in the wrong hang, so there's that

I think my main issue with votann is that the robots arent exactly cool or appealing in any form.Like, how do you fuck up robots? They're robots, dont make them wimps.

>>96033905
The bigger problem is they are basically non existend. they are supposed to be equals n shit but they have one out of 10 models or are just some low bimbo weapon carrier, tau drone or something.

>>96033905
I really like the ironkin and I wish there were more of them
I wouldn't mind some variants of the BSF robot for the LoVs

>>96033905
>picrel
No way some people are fapping to the fucking battle droids

Nearing the end for the Genestealers. Kinda looks like shit upclose, I'm struggling with paint consistency so nothing looks really "clean". I forgot to paint the base of the guy on the right.

>>96034033
Bruh they look sick, gj anon

>>96033955
that's a cog, not an ironkin, rookie mistake.

Can Changehost of deceit actually work? Nobody seems to be bothering with it to the point where the listbuilding process just seems to be
>Add Kairos
>Add a LoC
>Now stuff in a Grand Coven template on top

Skaven in 40k would be fine if they looked like that Rat heroine from Flushed Away

>>96034139
kill yourself

>>96034145
Cram it, Fundie!

>>96033300
>The new Drukhari box leaked
>1 Venom - $42 - 65 pts
>10 Wyches - $45 - 80pts
>5 Wracks - $40 - 55 pts
>Succubus - $30 - 45 pts
>Talos - $62.50 - 80 pts
Total $219.50 - 325 pts
Box Price $168.00
Discount 23.5%

An awful discount AND an awful start to an an expensive army

>>96034188
>23% discount
thats just the norm for combat patrols all edition long

>>96034071
Now I've seen everything

>>96034097
They're so similar I forget cogs are a thing

>>96032930
Combat Patrol Magazine m8

I've heard that in Votann novel protagonist fucks her Ironkin friend, is that true?

>>96033288
Your tourney perspective is so goddamn skewed wtf. Most people dont use goonhammer or wahapedia or battlescribe or other 3rd party tools.
The percentage of people who knows of 40k that are even aware codexes exists are not that high. Of those people much less even use an app/website to list build, if they even have a list.
Tourney WAACfags are such a tiny tiny minority of an already small minority. The fact that GW caters to you fags when they make the rules is the death knelt of this game, just because you piss and shit at the most minute changes. So many real casuals, people who think the minis are cool and want to learn the rules, get turned off when they learned that the weapons on their minis dont matter much. The axes, swords, maces, all do the same thing. And that positioning doesnt matter and terrains are all L shaped and symmetrical in the rulebooks.
Also most of the action happen "offscreen" with stratagems and passive skills and not about X unit interacting with Y unit.
It may be fun to us Stockholm Syndromed addicts, but the newer editions are so goddamn passive in its gameplay, for outside viewers nothing is happening.

Anyway, rant over. Black Templars are the most iconic space marines even to normies, deal with it tourneyfag.

>>96034332
probably? there's zero discrimination regarding ironkin, they're essentially seamlessly integrated into squat society and behave like any other squat to the point itself hard to distinguish between a lifelike ironkin and a prosthetics heavy squat.
I think the only stated difference is that ironkin only rarely have ambitions to lead or rule?

tell the dark angel your dark secret.

>>96034370
>seething 4 and a half hours later
lmao

>>96034387
Finally, Dark Angels themed Dark Angels
>Iykyk

>>96034387
What's up with the naked halfling?

>>96034145
You don't sound to cheesed to be here.

>>96034387
that dude has a nice ass

>>96031247
It sounds less like some indignite degeneracy but more like a father getting ready to pull out the Slaaneshi Belt.

>>96034400
>actually having a life beyond 4chan
Truly an inconceivable eldritch notion for the likes of you.

>>96031636
I always had a stupid idea of using a gravity-manipulating device that allows for such a heavy thing to be gymnastic at the cost of any offensive potential when it is activated. One of the big problems using it would be that it disfunctions, it can't turn off at the worst of time, maybe it glitches to make you immobile from a moment of intense gravity.

>>96034459
>pretends like 40k is an eldritch game that only uber ultra grognards play
go get some preparation H for your asspain
this hobby is more popular than ever, and yes people absolutely use Tabletop Battles, list forge, New Recruit, and the 40k app from GW which they promote the hell out of and even give you a code for when you buy your codex
goonhammer uses tabletop battles, which even the most casual player will use because it keeps track of your VP and primary/secondary cards during game for both you and your opponent
this is where they draw their data from, which shows that no one is playing black templars, for many reasons, like still being an index detachment, waiting on codex coming soon, and their current rules are fucking abysmal ass to play

>>96033065
>their first novel is full of the writer's barely concealed fetish, scat, and fart porn
Wat

>>96034514
read Space Marine, it's probably the greatest piece of literature produced for this game

>>96034514
The Ian Watson Rabbit Hole is an infohazard that can change how you view Warhammer's history. They're so ridiculous and almost incomprehensible that even GW has tried to brush under the rug.

>>96033161
Or the RT Salamanders scheme which is pretty fun and cool to do.

>>96033161
>>96033196
I actually paint lamenters and I'm aware of the fact that they're almost identical to the fists scheme. If you took a fully painted imperial fist, swapped out one shoulder pad for a checkered one, it would just be a lamenter. I'm pretty sure IF also have checker details occasionally too cause it's a pretty common detail across all the chapters.

>>96033300
I would unironically buy thism
I have 2x combat patrol, 5 scourges, 10 mandrakes and a venom, so this plus 2 cronos and lelith is all I meed

>>96033397
Dios mio, mucho outnumbered

>>96034501
No I meant the idea of someone posting something here, go on with his life, then come back hours later is such a strange notion to you loser, you think its an "own" to point out the time skip between posts.
Do you REALLY spend all your time here? Is 40k really the center of your existence that you think goonhammer is common knowledge? Is your life that pathetic?

>>96034531
imperial fists are a warmer uglier yellow, lamenters are a cooler very slightly green-ish yellow canonically

>>96033905
>>96033980
>>96034071

I would frick the cute robit and her friend

>>96033300
>Venom
>Only Wracks can use the firing deck
>Schizophrenic Loadout
You don't need a Diploma to know how this is going to play out

>>96034550
responding to something that happened 4 hours ago is peak seething
if you weren't so upset you would have just let it go
next time bother to actually check your sources before you start acting like a fag

>>96034551
Looks pretty much the same, both use similar blackish green shading in the art. One is just shaded more dramatically

>>96034033
they look great but the brown base rim is doing them absolutely no favours

>>96030441 (OP)

I wish I restarted my Ultramarines instead of starting Tyranids and staying with Tyranids. When I restarted marines I wanted to spam Dreads so I went with Iron Hands

>>96034586
I just checked for (you)s to my post, nothing more. By your twisted logic you must be seething, FUMING even, since you're still replying even though it's been "4 hours".
Like I said, the time skip means nothing to me, I'm gonna cook dinner for my wife and forget about this until I come back tomorrow, or not probably. But for a terminally online loser like you... it must be unbearable, the hours spent here.

>>96034637
These would look better if that brown rim was a dark dark brown if not black.

>>96034654
time to go touch grass anon

>>96034654
NTA but terminal online disorder is a very concerning mental issue and I hope the anon is able to get out of the NEET sinkhole before it's too late.

>>96034592
Its a sliiiiiiiight change. Lamenters are more flash gitz yellow while IF are more Yriel yellow. IF yellow is "thicker".
But desu on the tabletop they can be swapped and nobody cares.

>>96034637
That's how I painted the rim of my entire army, is it really that bad? What would be an alternative?

>>96034685
black is the usual go to
tan, however is fantastic for snow and extremely light colored bases
goblin green only works with goblin green bases

>>96034654
Discussing 40k with the /tg/ lads is supposed to be fun. Eat dinner with your wife and remember that you're lurking here and posting because it's enjoyable to nerd out with other nerds.

Tournaments are really fucking gay and 10th is steaming hot garbage.

>>96034387
I shit myself at home once. Thought it was just a fart gas cloud to be let out.
I’m over the age of 20.

>>96034685
Honestly put them on a brown terrain piece/table. It's the fact that you're taking photos on a green cutting mat

Reminder that any minute throoder will make a new thread early like he's done for the last half dozen generals and it is your civic duty to not migrate and report his for spam.

>>96034730
Well here's how they look in-action. I think it's okay

>>96034757
I’ll do my part.

>>96034531
nah, the yellow of the lamenters is more duck yellow.

>>96034387
I use /g/ and this general.

>>96034757
Obviously

I like Lamenters, but it's hard to take them seriously for the same reason it's hard to take Biel Tan seriously: Running around with a giant red cartoon heart on your shoulder just isn't very cool
Everything else about them is neat

>>96034387
I've been using AI to write erotic (non 40k related) stories instead of working on painting my minis

>>96034843
When I realized that Biel Tan are basically space ISIS with a penchant for ritual suicide the heart logo became a little less of a bother to me

>>96034843
it's hard to take any of the chapters who looked at the Astral Claws and side "yeah, disobeying the High Lords of Tera seems like a good idea" seriously

>>96034868
Mantis Warriors were fucking idiots and i'm glad the Carcharadons were allowed to keep most of their shit

>>96034387
I spent too much on this hobby and I am only now considering 3d printers because they are in 16k resolution now.

>>96034811
That's fan art. Show the class the official lamenters art where they're that colour. Oh wait there isn't any

>>96034843
They're psychic vampire buzz lightyears that are sad. It doesn't matter what logo or colour they are, they aren't made to be taken seriously.

friendly reminder that the Fire Hawks were right

>>96034868
>>96034939
I'm fine with them being naively optimistic in a setting that actively punishes them for doing so, and the chequered shoulder pads are cool. It's just the heart.

>>96034578
Wyches can go in the venom too

>>96034956
Just do what lamenterfag did and use a different symbol and call them a crusade force

>>96034387
I got an escort pregnant I paid and talked about the preggo scare.
I play guard if that means anything.

>>96032426
it definitely wasn't me, i went over the posts and i don't remember anything like that happening
sallyman or the orange and teal poster are good guesses

For me it's the kabal of the black heart

>>96032426
>What’s the protocol?
To stop talking about it so two posters don't get doxed or harassed.

>>96035012
Why did they change the Dark Eldar symbol to be the black heart anyway? Didn't they used to have a faction symbol and not just the biggest subfaction one?

>>96035008
>>96035021
I wanna see two model poster’s armies in a game together and for them to have fun.

>>96034989
It can only transport 6 dudes and Wyches come in packs of 10.

>>96034989
Only half the Wyches with the succubus.
You can take the W. But leave the yches

>>96035059
The venom has a rule for splitting units

>>96035068
This is Combat Patrol. The rule probably won't exist for the sake of shrimplification

>>96035035
They used to have this symbol but it's the craftworlder name for them apparently "dark ones"

>>96035107
>Craftworlders have basically made everyone else call dark eldar space niggers

>>96035040
Two known modelposters having fun together would have a lasting impact on the thread. The schizos would latch onto the two of them and claim every post they don't like was them supporting each other. People can't even compliment each other's models here without the spergs coming out and claiming its X name fag glazing someone. Having two modelposters as IRL friends would be too much for the nutcases to take and we'd be dealing with the worst shitposting that we've seen yet. I can appreciate the sentiment, and also think it would be cute to see two modelposters having fun together. I just don't think the thread could handle it.

>>96035158
Craftworlders are basically space jehoviahs witnesses, they really look down on the dark eldar

Thoughts on a man, that is lugging around a hyuge banner that is permanently affixed on his suit? How silly it is?

>>96035181
You make a good argument but I think that it wouldn’t matter as schizos will schizo no matter what.

>>96035215
peak 40k aesthetic

>>96035187
To be fair, shouldn't everyone look down their noses at Dark Eldar? They're so grim and dark they make the rest of the setting look like saints.

>>96034387
I woud play dark angels if they didn't have a gay ass company structure and ugly terminator scheme

all the other gay stuff they do is fine

>>96035331
>ugly terminator scheme
>hating on bone white armor

>>96035215
back banners and banners in general are the soul of 40k

>>96035340
they left the armor outside and it got all stained and gross.

>>96035012
>For me it's the kabal of the black heart
>not the kabal of

>>96035215
Very silly, and very cool. There is no beauty without contrasting cringe.

>>96034729
we've all been betrayed by a fart

>>96035374
Or the other way round, definitely had moments where i've had to rush to find a toilet only to find it was a false alarm

>>96035374
>>96035383
one leads to the other
you only need one mistake to put the fear into you

>>96035383
I’ve had that happen to me at home a lot.
The fear of it at the lgs is why I don’t play games.

>>96035361
Fuck off sallyfag.

>>96035439
Your meds, take them.

Just an FYI for all the Black Templar players.

>>96035444
Thanks for the heads up bro

>>96035444
Fug this was supposed to be attached.

>>96035454
damn that looks pretty bad

>>96035439
now this is schizo posting

>>96035487
Fuck you, is so cool.

>>96035454
it looks like he's got a horse bit in his mouth

>>96035487
I think I just don't like the head

>>96035501
Lemartes has ballgag.
Ian Watson space marines are so fucking back.

>>96035181
We should not kneel before the schizos and allow them to dictate to us the course of our autism.

>>96035331
>ugly terminator scheme
What? But it's so cool!

AH yes. Unpainted ceramite. That totally unambiguous color.

>>96035454
helmet is miles above the other new chaplains
pose is whatever

>>96035439
The people here painting /theirdudes/ vastly outnumber the people painting canon factions. The likelihood of that anon being sallyanon is extremely slim

Sovlful grey

>>96035786
Only if it's grey paint and is shaded and highlighted properly

>>96035215
The standard bearer is the soul of the company, I refuse to elaborate further.

>>96034776
I think it looks fine too anon. The ultimate test is whether you like what your model looks like. even if its just the base rim.

>>96035215
The act of holding a banner in an active warfare sends a message of defiance to their foes, as if flaunting their continued existence against an adversary that wishes them dead. It's very much in attitude to the general grimdark setting where humanity burns as bright as they can against the enroaching darkness. If your army doesn't have a banner holder or an equivalent, you should make your own

I made a paint scheme out of a bunch of different grey shades once. After hours of brainstorming and using an army painter + gimp to get a good concept for what I wanted I realized it was just bland grey. It made me feel like I couldn’t see colour anymore whenever I looked at it. It was a tragic waste of passion.

>airbrushing pauldrons
>doing my due diligence and keeping brush clean and paint thinned
>even after 8 coats over the first full coverage and color seems off
>going insane
>realize something and take them in another room with different lighting
>it was entirely because the airbrush booth light is so cold
I might be retarded

>>96035845
it happens. i moved my 'daylight' painting lamp next to my booth while airbrushing to double check how everything looks.

>>96035845
If this is o&tanon that might explain your frustration with getting your orange to match

>>96035858
need to do that
>>96035871
it is, but nah that's not it, I've walked my finished dues and test models through the house, outside, and brought them to my LGS, couldn't get my rusty orange to look right in any lighting no matter the mixes I tried.
I heard something from somebody about how orange behaves under satin/matte varnish that made a lot of sense for why I'd have the perfect tone and lose it after a light varnishing sometimes

Alright. Start baking.

Chef, please give us a good TQ not just what is your favorite x or y

>>96035936
>I heard something from somebody about how orange behaves under satin/matte varnish
Oh that would make sense, yellow does the same thing I find. Apply slightly too heavy of a coat of varnish and it looks like a whole different beast

>>96036023
>monkeys paw clenches fist
>Next tq
>what is your least favorite citadel paint

>>96035006
Jordan?

NEW THREAD
>>96036136
>>96036136
>>96036136
NEW THREAD

>>96035454
wish I waited on my chaplain would have headswapped

>>96034387
I want to move to the forbidden country to live. I researched everything and it seems it's probably the best country to live, if you have kids.
But i can't say this to anyone around, as i and my kids will be ostracised. And also i can't move to that country, because they don't just allow people like me to enter.

>>96034586
i'm not him, but:
- i go to this sub once a day, during morning calls
- i never ever look at the time of the post
- i read threads from top to bottom
- sometimes i leave my replies, if i want to
And all of these leads to my replies to comments that have been posted many hours ago.

So sometimes it may not be seething, it's just anon not caring about timestamps.

>>96030713
whats it with you freaks and fucking nids? show me the most fuckable nid I DARE YOU

>>96032584
Just lock them from the outside.