Thread 96044634

The Knights Vow Edition

Resources:
WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwh
WM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgeba
WFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6
Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H
>Warhammer Chronicles:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip
>Time of Legends:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip
>The End Times:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip
>TOW:
https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXS
https://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/
>Alternative Models:
https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL
>FAQ/Errata
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/wgp83jlw/old-world-faq-and-errata-designers-notes/

>Previous Thread:
>>96033230

>Thread Question:
Which army are you currently working on? Which army do you have lined up next?

>>96044634 (OP)
Working on my Beastmen, Razorgor to be exact.

>>96044632
Thanks!
Yeah my model's off ebay he was missing some bits, and needing some filling. I haven't played with greenstuff in 10 years but it went pretty well, yourself's looking good!
Base is paintedDryad Bark, then a wash of Agrax Earthshade.
Drybrush Gorthor Brown, followed by drybrushing Knight-Questor Flesh.
The body is drybrushing Doombull Brown, followed by drybrushing Tuskgor Fur.
The hair is drybrushing Jokaero Orange.
Base is just Hobgrot Hide, which I'll wash with Earthshade then drybrush underhive ash.

>>96044634 (OP)
Currently working on 40k stuff but my main armies are Chaos Dwarfs and Vampire Counts. Pic related I painted up recently.
I always rotate between projects and sadly have a difficult time finishing one completely

>>96044704
well fuck me for phoneposting i guess

>>96044667
Cute!

>>96044704
>>96044719
Very cool. And yeah you have to screenshot photos before posting or it will flip them.

In this image appears Karl Franz, his wife and his 2 children, but who are the other 2?

>>96044760
bearded guy is Ludwig Schwarzhelm, but not sure why there are two daughters

>>96044667
Thanks for the color guide anon, I might take some inspiration from that when I get to painting my own pig

>>96044760
Karl has three kids. Because he fucks.

I don't care how good the models or rules are. TOW has no soul or character. Its corposlop for TWW paypiggies. The nu-lore is retarded and Warhammer Fantasy doesn't mean anything anymore outside of making GW rich. Fuck Cathay. I will continue playing classic editions of WHF. Go ahead, cry and seethe about it.

>>96044634 (OP)
>TQ
Workin on Cathay. Finishing up my Chaos Dwarfs afterwards.

>>96044988
ok? that was always an option, have fun and remember to post battle reports!

>>96045007
I managed to snag a Shugengan. Gonna cram so many shitty puns and pop culture references into my Cathay army that will fly over the head of anyone who doesn't speak Spanish.

>>96044634 (OP)
>TQ
got to paint a second hellblaster for a tournie on saturday.

>>96045124
40kg is thataway man
>>96041364

Also MSU is 5 Hellblasters so chop chop retard

>>96044634 (OP)
If you’re playing empire how do you fluff your dudes during the era of the three emperors?
>are they aligned to one of them
>Do they offer allegiance none of them and their general/lord are aiming for the throne themselves
>or do they stay out of the business of nobles and aim to just try and hold the empire together with force of arms

>>96044988
kek I love the irony in this picture anon well done
10/10

>>96045141
¿?

>TQ
Painting some WoC, making a 32 man unit in batched sub assemblies which is surprisingly fun. My ambition is to build a Storm of Chaos style army with representatives of all the chaos god as well as Beastmen and Daemons and perhaps Chorfs if they every get made. Also got some classic sculpts that I'm looking forward to painting. (Metal knights, Crom, Kordel Shorgaar).
Pic related is their current status. Still need to tidy them up, finish the bone and do the cloaks and highlights.

>>96045141
I think it is you in the wrong place anon

>>96045141
>the primaris-kid fake grog trips and falls

>>96044634 (OP)
Repainted my Arbaal's hound and hope to order more Chsos Knights, the old hunchbacks.

>>96045158
Planning on putting a sepia wash on those skulls?

>>96045217
I basecoat off-white, slop on some skeleton horde contrast, and then do a light drybrush of off-white again. Then a drop of brown wash in the eye and nose cavities.

DAMN Goat Shaman looks like THAT?!?

>>96044634 (OP)
TQ: Cathay, working on jade warrior.
Currently no interest in a third army.

>>96045168
>>96045160
>>96045155
Gtfggenbaitedkunts

>>96044988
WHFB rules were always garbage. everybody in a nostalgia fog seems to forget that. they were easy to hack and had lots of fun supplements, but the basic rules were just a linear expansion on RPG combat that minimized player decisions and dragged out game length with excessive rolling and tedious rules referencing. in that sense, TOW is very much in the spirit of warhammer.
GW only ever made 3 good fantasy battle rulesets, and none of them say "warhammer" on the cover.

>>96045407
>>96045421
Go away.

>>96045436
No I like to build and paint my silly little goats

>>96045363
>focus you fuck

>>96045421

Out of curiosity, what are good fantasy rulesets in your opinion, besides MESBG and Warmaster that you implied in your message.

>>96045520
I'll forever hold a torch for Fantasy Rules! (yes that is the actual name, exclamation mark and all) by Chipco.

>>96045520
40k 10th edition index only 500 points no stratagems crusade mission pack no rerolls no devastating wounds no psykers Imperium and chaos only nothing over t6 -10VP for unpainted models no named characters is PEAK fantasy Wargaming and im tired of pretending it's not

>>96045550
>40k

>>96045555
Nice quads niggerniggernigger-kun

>>96044988
>nulore
Don’t people just pretend it’s set in WFB?

>>96045616
even then lore added to the year 2300 is lore retroactively added to the year 2500

Is a Chaos Dragon worth investing in still with the now popular 25% unit cap?

>TQ
I'm working on my Bretonnians from Lyonesse, out on crusade. After that I will do more Bretonnians. After that I've got an old Be'lakor I'll do for fun.
Picrel is the Prophetess ("princess") that my 4yo daughter has told me the colours for that I'm working on atm. I'll name her after her when she's done

There's an ongoing Kickstarter for siocast miniatures based on classic Ian miller drawings. Looks extremely tempting to chip in.

>>96044760
Ludwig Schwarzhelm and the older girl is Katarina Todbringer. You can see she's wearing an ulrican brooch and a necklace with the Todbringer arms on it. She also matches her portrait from The Power Behind the Throne.

Her appearance in this picture is a bit weird. In the context of Empire in Ruins it makes sense for her to be in Altdorf, but not with KF looking relatively healthy, nor with Luitpold in the picture.
It's definitely her though.

>>96045520
it's still kinda crazy to me that WHFB (and AOS) designers just refused to learn any lessons from MESBG. like early days, I get it, warhammer is your cash cow, you don't wanna risk shit so just play it safe. use the new side game to test all the wild ideas your guys have for a better 28mm fantasy battle game.
but then the crazy fuckers actually do it. they make a core game that beats the shit out of warhammer in every imaginable catagory. and it's a solid foundation to build on, easily expandable. porting that system and slotting the warhammer fantasy armies in to it next edition would be totally achievable, and you'd have a game that's way better than anything the trajectory whfb is currently on could hope to achieve.

but instead of that, you say, nah, fuck it, let's double down on all the stupid shit that makes fantasy a pain in the ass to play, fix nothing, and while we're at it jam in a bunch of new rules that force everybody to buy more of the same models and change the footprints of all their trays. that will free up resources to update some armies way too many times and ignore other armies for multiple consecutive editions.

>>96045657
intersting
Did Miller do any concept design for GW miniatures back in the day?
I always thought he was a cover and interior artist for GW., he was never really on the miniatures side of the company, at least looking at released products.

>>96045550
>Advocating for 40k 10th at any points limit
Youre scum tier for 40k for shilling one of the worst editions there is, even more so for bringing it up here.

>>96045675

Yeah MESBG has good core mechanics, I think there was a Warhammer version of it as well, but from my experience brand loyalists are very very reluctant to try something new outside of the plantation. But I'm a bit skeptical if all the wacky Warhammer units would translate well to MESBG, which has lower power levels in general.

>>96045616
Only empire fags that can't live without Karl

>>96045677
>concept design
not to my knowledge, as far as I know gw's go to guys were blanche, jes, gallagher and gibbons, if the sculptor wasn't given free reign on what to do at least

>>96045677
I don't think miller was ever in GW, he was just hired as an artist to do various work. he was already a "name" from doing tolkien shit in the 70s.

>>96045158
>>96045217
Update on my dudes. More or less happy with them minus a tiny bit more tidying up, then it's onto the highlights. The cloak I do last as that's where I hold them when painting and I tend to rub the paint off.

>>96045728
if you can break brand loyalty, you've got a choice of 10,000 better rulesets than whfb. that goes without saying.
I just dont get why GW themselves was so opposed to repeating their own success. they spent two fucking editions before ET bitching about how fantasy was bleeding players to other games, the answer to all their woes was literally right there in arm's reach. being worked on by some of the same fucking people.

>>96045745
Hhe did do Ratspike with Blache, so I don't think he was just a freelancer for them.

>>96045768
oh thats true. I wonder how that came about.

>>96045657
What am I searching to find this kickstarter anon, I can't find it

>>96045768
He was John Blanche's teacher in art school, iirc. They were friends and Blanche has always been art directer, but I don't think Ian Miller was ever that heavily involved with the workings of GW.

>>96045785
nta but the guy is roberston of osmotic meld, did a mini on a drawing of mine some time ago

>>96045785

Hounds of hell by osmoticmeld.

>>96045864
>>96045820
Thanks anons, I found it. I've backed for Duke Viridius for when I want to run the Green Knight

Somehow the new edition of Horus heresy is more of a wargame than fantasy battle has ever been. I think it’s time for me to leave this dogshit setting, and venture where the grass is greener.

>>96046075
Enjoy

>>96046075
>Anon can't wait to pit his BS3 S4 Guns against the enemies T4 3+sv statline

>He just hopes they don't live to return fire with their BS3 S4 Guns into his T4 3+sv bodies

>>96045550
minis equivalent of no items, fox only, final destination

>>96044760
do all of these people exist in 2500?

>3 Warpflamers
>2 Warpflamers + 1 Ratling
>2 Ratlings + 1 Warpflamer
I cannot decide, help me anons

>>96046245
3 Ratlings
They are obscenely good

>>96046245
1 warpflamer
1 ratling gun
1 warp grinder
proxy one for the others whenever you feel the need
or magnetise the guns' ends

>>96046142
No, the little girl wouldn't be born yet

>>96046245
How do these things work in TOW? Can you still attach one of each to regiments?

I have models I need to paint, but the reveal show has me in wasting all my energy anticipating that instead of painting….

>>96046334
You can attach 1 to a unit of Clanrats or Stormvermin
Renegade rules made them detachments so they can stand and shoot or counter charge

>>96046402
The reveals are not real til revealed
Paint your shit you weak-minded bitch nigga

>>96046402
All reveals are always disappointing, turn your brain off and paint, if you can't do that clean mouldlines, if you can't do that carve a hill, statues and menhirs out of foam.

>>96046402
whats stopping you? often times its tons of little friction which can be remedied with some preparation. for instance, have a designated painting area with everything set up already, schedule your assembly, priming and painting time, get a decent airbrush for priming if you live in an area with non facilitating climate

>>96044988
>making GW rich
that's 40k, and msbg only during the theatrical run

What is the best way to kitbash the classic bighats on chaos dwarfs? I have come across some legion of azgorh (FW) models and want to make them into an updated version of the classic look

>>96045764
>the answer to all their woes
I thought one of their most significant woes with WFB was all the old players had already bought their armies and so didn't buy models regularly enough. Rule changes were an attempt to sell more models by making armies larger or introduce new models that you needed to buy to win.

>>96046643
could use the forge world hat for inspiration

>>96046643
There used to be some third party hat heads. I think I had some at one point in a bits box, but ended up selling them.

>>96046674
Their woes were due to assuming that their already existing customer base was all the were going to get. If you make the game more friendly to new players by not requiring them to buy 10 boxes of infantry in order to have a good army, you get more people to by into the game.

>>96046075
Because horus heresy is more or less symmetrical with just dudes with roughly the same physical abilities, weapons, and armour fighting dudes just like them where as whfb and TOW are about forces who are different on a fundamental level fighting eachother

>>96044667
I always want to buy 4 razorgors but even the proxies are so ugly, godspeed anon the red looks good.
>>96045180
Repainted but still undefeated, nice.
>>96045649
I'll be watching your brets with great intent (my mom loved painting female warhammer and painted elfs/bret so I plan on showing her to get her hyped to paint when she retired again)
>>96045761
Nice chaos warriors, while I find the older sculpts more characterfull there's no denying the new ones look bricked when ranked up.
>TQ
Just finishing my bases for wood elves. First unit I've finished since I got back to TOW (had painted 1kish points of beastmen prior) while my guys will never win awards I think they look ok, just need to finish basing and then paint the 20mm>25mm movement tray I ordered. Will probbaly paint 2 to 6 more like this to have 2 units of 8 or 16. Content with the effort to result ratio so far, but not 100% on my base choice- colors are fine but mix of leaves, flowers, flock etc not dialed in. I'll get there. Have a 1kpt battle today as well so I'll report if anything interesting happens

>TQ
I'm still working on my warriors of chaos, specifically this chariot and some mutated 1997 chaos warriors. I've been in a bit of a slump lately, zero inspiration for cool banner ideas. Maybe I should have just left this chariot well enough alone and not put a brass rod on it, but it's too late to go back now.

>>96046643
what I'm about to show you is highly confidential and experimental

>>96046643
The Infernal Guard don't wear hats but check out the hats from the Infernal Empire line or from Lost Kingdom's Infernal Dwarves

>>96046766
>your parents will never paint nor play warhammer with you
intensely jelly

>>96046402
the things revealed wont be released for at least another 6 month

>>96046850
Holy shit

It's done. There's not much more to say, other than that it will see some games in less than two weeks. I'll have to prepare a short story for one of the upcoming battles. Something along the lines of my captain paying his family debts to the old race. I plan to paint that single slayer I own and run him alongside my empire to save the entrance from whatever foe would like to get in.

>>96047679
amazing stuff

>>96047679
And here with some miniatures

>>96047679
Like a bought one.
It's extremely cool, from the difference between the lichen versus moss/shrubs to the rubble of the collapsed parapets.

>>96047679
Dope my man
>>96046846
Good luck on the banner

Why is Cathay so harmonious bros?

>>96047837
because the dragons kill the peasants and fuck the nobles to keep them in line, this is known

>>96047852
>dragons
You mean Shapeshifting Jew Wyrms from outer space

>>96047679
>>96047695
Looks amazing anon.

>>96047679
>>96047695
GRIMNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIR

>>96046766
Nice elves anon, I think your mum will be much more inspired by them than my Bretonnians. They're a slow grow for me at the minute, but I'll post any updates on Instagram as @cthonian_headhunter if you ever want to look

>>96047695
love all of it

>>96047695
those beautiful perry pikemen contrast so sharply with that aos faux dynamism ogre

>>96045657
I know it's meant to be a chaos lord, but the rider would make a superb vampire count on nightmare

>>96047837
Systematic oppression and mind control, just lik-

>>96047872
just the mother, but shes propably not even a wyrm.

>>96047979
>>96047837
These two need to be combined, the mask in the 2nd is better but the Onyx Crowmen and background of the first look great too.

>>96044760
Boris daughter.

>>96048154
RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE
BAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>96048154
Before opening the image it looked like her nose was torn off and her eyes were stitched open.

>>96048240
Yeah, the heavy shading on the obviously upturned nose is weird

For 500 points, which hero is better for WoC?

All would be Aspiring Champions

Build 1: Foot Champion

Great Weapon, Meteoric Iron, Favoured of the Gods

Build 2: Horse

Chaos Steed, Lance, Shield

Build 3: Daemonic Mount

Daemonic Mount, Lance, Favoured of the Gods

Foot Champion is a lot cheaper and would be leading 8 Chaos Warriors with a unit champ.

The other two would be leading 4 Chaos Knights. Which would be best? Leaning to the foot lord.

>>96048487
Doing some escalation league thing at your LGS?
I'd say start on foot to save points. When things escalate and the games get bigger, move him to horse.
When things get really big, promote him and move him to monster.

>>96048506
Its a straight 500 point event. Play 4 games for the day so sadly no escalation. If this was, I'd 100 dive for Daemonic Mount.

In this case foot lord is the cheapest and can get champion upgrades for all 3 of my units, which are very small.

>>96048487
Fwiw I find my meek elf hippie Heros do best mounted but that's becsusest 500 to 1k points I don't really have the blobs of infantry to help his buffs be worthwhile, while the stag let's me really crush the smaller units the wild riders charge

Why exactly does Slaanesh get a claim to elven souls in fantasy? Like sure, there was the Cult of Pleasure, but no real big event that ties them to She Who Thirsts otherwise.

>>96048586
They're just that much tastier

>>96048572
That's understandable, as moat elf heroes I assume got buffs which only count for critical mass.

In this case, I have tried 4 chaos knights with and without the hero. Either way, they get shit done, just roll over everything, even more with the hero.

Inversely, the chaos warriors, who I am fielding as 8, range from OK to meh. With the hero, they become a viable threat on the field while the knights run rough shod across the battlefield.

Its more of a case if I want my knights to get even stronger or turn my Warriors into a more viable unit on the field.

>>96048586
All elves feel emotions to a much greater extent than humans so they are more vulnerable to excess that Slaanesh likes

>>96048661
Sure, they're vulnerable. By why does he get an automatic claim on consuming their souls upon death? No other god gets to do that with another race.

>>96048645
Yeah fair enough 1W 4+ just ain't enough and as I learned last game vs slaanesh a lucky charge and shoot rapes 5 to 10 man squads effectiveness. Plus it's more points for killing elsewhere.
It's probbaly cause my eternal guard are anything but eternal so I generally spend points elsewhere at 1k and under, using then as a anvil. Foe a hero to add value I have to take eternal kindred and BoM netling and that's 50pts right there so I find it's too many eggs in one very flimsy basket.
Good hunting either way anon!

>>96048216
>>96048240
The duality of Slaanesh.

>>96048586
Because nu-GW is retarded and decided everything must be as similar to 40k as possible

>>96048645
Don't post botslop, make a bad photshop, or a basic mspaint doodle, if you need an image.

>>96048706
That's been standing lore for a long ass time.

>>96048686
Oh I was just proposing a discussion point. If I add to the Knights, it means they are even more assured to tear into infantry. I haven't used them in the new double rank infantry, so the hero might be enough to make it still devastating.

Foot Lord will bolster the Warriors to be an asset. Kind of putting it together and hurting my OCD. Sounds of it you'd go horsey?

>>96048714
I dragged it from a discord, my bad.

>>96048645
why does ai slop all have this brown piss filter now

>>96048751
No clue. Ask google or the other multi bajillion dollar companies.

>>96048745
Yeah, you are probably right- my wild riders or so squishy vs the 2 ranks of infantry I usually lose 2-3 and they only FBIGO then I get smacked next turn, so I needed the stag to inflict damage or challenge stuff. Whereas your Chaos warriors are probably often shot or charged first, and your knights tough, so makes sense to bolster infantry for your army.

>>96048740
you're gonna have to back that up with a citation. I'm calling bullshit.

>>96048780
Thanks head. Appreciate the advice. Poor Elves, must be brutal to set up those giant cav minis only to get sniped. Hurts a lot too when I lose my knights.

>>96046674
>>96046713
which was completely wrong. 7th tried that with wider ranks and gave a lot of players the nudge that started the mass exodus to either MESBG or in to things like Confrontation or Warmachine. and then 8th killed the game by doubling down with hordes, simultaneously driving away anybody who was still on the fence and guaranteeing nobody new would be able to buy in.
maybe you forget, but GW had a tremendous amount of goodwill and momentum going in the later half of 6th. lots of local whfb groups were huge and continuously growing. if they'd kept improving the game that could have continued for a long time. instead they threw it all away in the space of really just a couple years of nonstop bad decisions.

>>96048830
You call them bad decisions, I call them savvy business moves to maximize shareholder value.
And in the end, they're who really matter.

>>96048791
Yeah but thats the game, god knows the wild rider and stagshero put out far more S5 attacks any limp wristed pointy ear should- so I get why they are often on the kill list. Good luck on your league btw
>>96048830
This was why I dropped out, I couldn't afford to keep collecting bret and dark elves and only played thanks to beastmen being so ass someone gave me a massive discount before leaving. By 8th every game was mass infantry and guns/wizards and it was so expensive my local groups went to WMH/Malifaux because it was like 100 bucks for a full sized army, if not less, with relative for the time innovative gameplay. Like people from 3-5th editions will tell you, during 6th the escalation and push for new models and larger sizes became exhausting

>>96048905
>during 6th
meant starting in 6th, aka how every edition last edition models were bad, and the bad ones suddenly good, plus generally larger unit sizes needed started there even if 6th itself wasn't too bad

Is an Outcast Wizard better off alone or in a block of Men at Arms? I kinda like the juxtaposition of having one unit with a Grail Monk and one unit with my wizzie, even if there's a good chance he'll nuke the unit.

>>96048905
The thing about 8th is, yeah it was a horde game but it was still so tied down in rpg minutia that it felt even more schizophrenic. There's historical games with far more models per unit that play much better, so it's not so much that the number of figures required is the issue so much as the price GW was asking for, and how people were expected to actually use them.
Because buying four boxes, which was what $140, for one unit of core that just died in one hit to a nuke spell was not fun. But if you didn't good luck outgrinding an enemy block of infantry that wouldn't break.

>>96044634 (OP)
Does Bretonnia get cucked so hard that even its main gimmick of having the best knights is stolen by Vampire Counts (Blood Knights), Chaos (Chaos Knights), and the Empire's demigryph riders and Knights of the Inner Circle? What else do they get?The best peasant levies? The ability to field the most generic knights?

>>96049103
>gimmick of having the best knights
LOL cope harder. KOTR are easily the best "standard" cav, Grail Knights rape every other "elite" cav unit, and Questing Knights tear through monster/fear cuck units. The only legitimate criticism against Bret knights is that the models are kind of underwhelming for how powerful they are.
Also, yes, Bret infantry is some of the best in the game right now, particularly Bret Exiles.

>>96049103
He says this as Bretonnia is one of the most broken armies of TOW.

>>96049103
Pre TOW yes, now they are the premier non monsterous cav

How do you make use of Skitterleap for Skaven?
Teleport a character 24" but outside of 6" of enemies
It seems to be good for warmachine hunting but nothing stops the warmachine from just turning around and blasting the character

>TQ
Reiklander Army

>>96044988
>>96045616
nobody uses nulore. nobody in my group even cares about cathay or any lore starting in WHFB storm of chaos

>>96049327
looks like a corpse cart. At least, the makings of one.

>>96048745
>I dragged it from a discord, my bad.
Here, have this and don't commit the same error

>>96049446
and without gif

>>96049446
>>96049466
Don't be one of those faggots

Now that Cathay is successful I wonder how long until someone starts making their own version. Other than Raging Heroes because they jumped fast on this.

>>96049587
I've seen a few already

>someone on plebbit has consoomed $484 in Games Workshop dice
IM COOLLECTING
IM COOOOOLLECTING!!!

>>96048893
Considering it caused the company to stagnate I would not say it's maximizing shareholder value lol

>>96049676
I just wanted the white hand dice but no, just gone forever.

>>96049676
>11 sets of GW dice
>$484
Sounds right.

>>96048938
>There's historical games with far more models per unit that play much better, so it's not so much that the number of figures required is the issue

That is the issue, a GW main line game only being at the level of popularity of a historical system is a failure

>>96049676
Holy shit I just googled it. I thought you were making an insane joke in >>96049690

11 sets of dice from GW are ACTUALLY $484. Holy fucking shit you people play this game by choice. This is never gonna stop being funny.

>>96049676
reseller here, GW official dice are a great investment. wait until they go OOP and they always sell for at least 2-3x what you bought them for, even the bland ones that are just normal chessex dice with a warhammer symbol

buying GW dice is literally just buying free money

>>96049683
white hand dice?

>>96049717
Someone needs to buy up the Beastmen ones, then, since you can still buy them for the GW store.

>>96049694
Napoleonics are bigger than Warhammer has ever been anon.

>>96049763
"Napoleonics" is a genre, not a wargame system

>>96049720
From MESBG.

>>96049446
Looks mint. Thanks man.

You now remember that CHaos Dawi use Shamshirs.

>>96049717
Can confirm. I sold some Tzeentch and Nurgle dice years ago for a profit.

>>96049280
I like skitterleaping my warlock around with a rifle and a ruby ring. Due to being able to move and skitterleap he’s pretty much always out of dispel range. I’ll still probably take him as a lvl 2 unless points are tight.
Otherwhise for war machine hunting why not use packs of giant rats?
Also gutter runners despite the nerfs still murder war machines pretty hard.

>>96049815
curved swords are not some kind of obscure element, anon

>>96049815
>dawi
>even chaos dawi
>using swords besides forging runefangs for others

>>96049851
One of the Ancestor God's main weapon is a sword, so I don't think Dwarfs care that much but they prefer Axes or hammers
Spears are still umgak.

>>96049845
>>96049280
One other time he also teleported his own grey seer out of a disastrous combat allowing him to save the day. The grey seer got teleported next to some gutter runners, plagued of rust the chaos lord on manticore and then wind blasted him into los of the jezzail murder team. There was much rejoicing.

>>96049851
dwarfs don't have much reach, so swords and polearms just make sense for them, despite your stocky sensibilities about presumed traditions.

>>96049851
Long Drong did it.

My fucking autism is going haywire

>prefer commanders on foot
>realise historically, leaders lead on horseback
>even the case in old WHF games
>mfw want leader on foot but autism says it must be on a mount

Holy shit I hate this feeling

>>96049905
*Laughs in khazalid*

Why did Tamurkhan sell poorly?

>>96049905
Put his lieutenant/champion on foot and have him on horseback. That's what I did.

>>96049920
I'LL SHAVE YOUR BEARD YOU SHORT MIDGET

>>96049905
Your army was engaged before this battle in a skirmish or anmbush by opposing faction and the generals horse was shot. Forcing him to dismount for the battle.
(Man thing problem)

>>96049924
But I want my *general* to be on foot. What you described is exactly in the game I played and AAAAAAAAA

>>96049891
Alright, that's pretty impressive
I guess the Engineer just isn't that much of a threat worth dedicating killing him?

>>96047881
Does that guy have mini axes in his beard?

>>96049864
what book is that art from?

>>96049921
Resin was badly casted, massively overpriced, and forge world rules were not considered 'properly' official rules by many gaming groups
plus it's evidently built with further installments in mind but those never came, usually when such projects are actually completed, the installments boost each other in an allosteric effect

>>96049947
WFRP 1e Stone and Steel

>>96049939
he also uses axe spray

>current army
Empire
>next army
I have a few chorfs, a few ogres, and a few goblins but I don't know if I want to do any of them or something else. I've played a couple games online with Cathay and they feel like a fully baked version of what I want empire to do, and they have cool models but I don't really want to jump on a bandwagon. Chorfs I just don't know how if I want to go old big hat chorfs, converting legion of azghor style ones, or maybe AoS depending on how those minis look. Orcs and Ogres I've lost interest in. High elves or dwarves also seem interesting.

>>96049905
false dilemma. there were even plenty of warhammer blisters with mounted and unmounted versions of the same model. your autism is fake and gay

>>96049905
just get both, model them both on foot and on mount and play with one of them time to time
I did this for my empire general

>>96049994
and the big boy when playing army composition#2. Notice the same head

>>96049966
thank you

>>96049992
Its real. Also realising in real armies most commanders were mounted.

>>96049994
>>96050000
That looks nice. He must be quite addled when he can't ride his griffon...yeah I'll do that. I guess.

How many human Warhammer fantasy factions have worshiping chaos being legal but otherwise freedom of religion is the general rule of the land?

>>96049128
>>96049129
>>96049226
Ah, the editions march on. Based and Bretonian pilled.

>>96049905
There's no gameplay disadvantage to having a model on horse in an infantry unit, unlike previous editions.
It's effectively simply better than that model on foot.

>>96049969
Obelix pants
The association is irrevocable

>>96050037
I understand that, heck throughout WHF it seems mounted chars > foot. Exception being special characters.

>>96047837
>>96047979
This is what's funny when you realize that we were based on brainwash tourist guide for North Korea. I am not joking North Korea actually has brainwash tourist guide now.

>>96050034
>have worshiping chaos being legal
The Northern tribes. Chaos produces immediate and horrific effects on people that "let it in." So, only places that welcome mutation and open practice of magic, which are the northern tribes and nobody else. Zaipan, Araby, and Grand Cathay have sketchy societies and weird magic, but they're not welcoming of Chaos.

>>96049938
Either the warlock is wayyyy to far away from anything that kills him or he’s hidden between/inside units or behind angles obscuring him up until there’s too high of a threat. For example my giant rats leave a very safe spot directly behind them as they March formation up the field.
If they really want to shoot him then they aren’t shooting the doomwheel, which everyone in my playgroup fears. Basically he’s not worth the resources to commit against being a slimy little devil that pops out of existence.

Just remember to pop your warpstone tokens for the clutch teleport.
Or if you roll both fireball AND ruby ring pull out your doom rocket model and larp.

I’m intending to try him as a level one throwaway as well with just skitterleap and a ring, but have only played one game since the magic squish(and I was lizards)

>>96050034
>>96050082
It was supposed to say.How many human Warhammer fantasy factions have worshiping chaos being illegal but otherwise freedom of religion is the general rule of the land?

>>96050037
Hold up gangster, pretty sure that changed in the big errata.
You need the same troop type to not be blasted. >>96050053

>>96050096
The Empire, High Elves, and Dwarves all have freedom of religion. Skaven are forced monotheistic, Chaos Dwarves are forced monotheistic, Northern Tribes worship whatever they want but typically ends up being some Chaos power, Orks worship one of two Gods and have religious wars based on it from time to time, Ogres worship a vaguely defined Lovecraftian horror buried in the Old World, Wood Elves are kind of like the HIgh Elves but with their own pantheon, Dark Elves have their own pantheon or version of the High Elf gods, and Lizard Men worship the Old Ones (their present status unknown). Bretonians have a state religion, which all locals worship or get executed, foreigners are allowed their own religious icons.

>>96050108
Really? well damn.

>>96049957
You know the sculptor of the massive khorne dragon made an instagram post a year or two ago discussing the sculpt and it turns out it's actually fully 100% an AoS sculpt. Maybe it used some concept art lying around for the khorne brother, but as far as the actual sculpting goes it was fully done after fantasy's passing. I remember being pretty surprised by that.

>>96050352
I'm still counting it as the honorary brother of tamurkhan nonetheless

>>96049957
I really wanna see a slaaneshi or tzeentch dragon now

>>96044634 (OP)
Chugging away on my warband. Barely know how to play the game but I'm loving working on my "Brotherhood of the Black Sigil". Next up is 20 more warriors, 40 marauders, 10 cavalry and 2 chariots.
Seeing a lot of players in my group going over to ToW from 40k because of the rulebloat and now I just wish that people say "fuck the meta" and do as me and only go for grand armies to play out narratives

>>96050390
may i interest you in rolling mutations in the realm of chaos books

What were the patron deities of each of the Great Tribes of Sigmar?

>>96050372
It's not a given they would be riding dragons too, the toad dragon is also technically not a dragon either, name aside, fluffwise it's said to be closer to a lustrian reptile, phylogenetically speaking.
Maybe the other two would ride less voluminous but no less impressive beasts too.

>>96050372
Arent most "regular" chaos dragons tzeentch-adjacent due to being Galrauch's descendants?

>>96050418
I'd imagine mostly the smaller gods that still get worshipped now.

So today had a nice 1k game of my wood elves vs my buddies stitched together "cult of slaanesh" list it was
>20 or so those 2 attack cultists (that we agreed were way undercosted), 3 fiends, 5 seekers, 2 bolt throwers, a level2 herald, and 10 repeater xbow
Vs
> 2x8 squads of poison glade guard, 14 eternal guard, 5 wardancer w/2hw, 5 wildriders, then a staghero a lvl1 mage abandoned wardancer hero
What I learned was:
>Eternal guard are so shit for their points, 14 pts for a 5+ and 1 st3 ap-1 attack just doesn't cut it everytime I've bought them they get slaughtered
>new frenzy changes suck balls on overrun/pursuit, it fucked me hard vs the fiends after hitting them from a fleeing xbow unit
>magic missles kill glade guard. Even at 750/1k pts I think I need to start investing in the oaken staff
>glade guard poison still kills warmachines funnily enough
>wardancers continue to print money vs T3, and bounce off T4.
I lost as I had no good answer to the demonology bric of anointed cultists but at least had some good charges and 6 glade guard shot a repeater off so that was fun, but yeah at least on these smaller scale games I just think I have to accept I'm all hammer and no anvil and stick to msu.

The men at arms kit is really charming, makes for great zombie fuel.

>Running campaign about PCs hunting for Ghal Maraz in Black Fire Pass, but it's not the Enemy Within book about that.
I'm settled on the main antagonists being Greenskins, Chaos Dwarves and a Dragon, but there should be a Blood Dragon that serves as a rival/mentor as they hunt for the same Dragon that's causing all the problems.

>>96050844
If Oaken Staff is the "I deny everything stick", it's an auto-include

>>96050989
Swanky, what are all those heads?

>>96051016
>stick of denial.
It's the 3 inch more dispel and you get a extra dice, drop the lowest on dispels so I hope it's the "I deny everything stick" cause while my opponent rolled a bit hot fuck me the ruby ring and demonology signature spell fucked me up all game.
Already revamped my list adding oaken stave, the 5+++ armor for staggy, and 5 glade riders with shoot n scoot plus poison shots. Leaves roughly 25pts for a banner somewhere prob wild riders for the +1 combat banner. If wood elves are going to be annoying or bust might as well lean into it.

>>96046880
I like these but everytime I find someone to print them for me, they're printer way too big because the printer forgets it's meant to be a fucking dwarf

>>96051216
That's the stick. That thing has rammed itself up my ass so far my tongue has splinters.

>>96050989
Kino. Look up Mousillon's lore, they'd fit right in

>>96050998
Why don't more Blood Dragons hunt dragons or act independently? That's the way the idea of them is pitched in lore. Same with Grail Knights, in canon it's incredibly rare to ever see one, let alone an entire unit of them in battle.

>>96051303
>Why don't more Blood Dragons hunt dragons or act independently?
Fuck if I know, and not a single Blood Dragon shows up in WHFRP 4e material despite being perfect antagonist/rival material.

>>96051479
Not to mention how fucking scary a centuries-old swordmaster vampire would be in a small skirmish setting with no backup coming. Mordheim does an excellent job of this, if you come across an undead warband, the vampire is a terrifying murder machine.
Now that I mention it, I think the Barony of the Damned 2e supplement had a vampire nobleman encounter that kind of fills this role. I know I just shilled it to the other anon, but it's really quite good inspiration for all things undead.

>>96050998
I had some stupid ideas for a Hunt for Ghal Maraz campaign.
The Thousand Thrones says that Sigmar witnessed the Tree of Hope on his journey from the world. Nagash is also said to have encountered the Tree of Hope on his travels and had some kind of revelation there.
The Tree of Hope is withered and almost dead. It's said to stand at the edge of the world, beyond Morr's realm, and hold the secrets of life within its branches.

Retarded idea: The Tree of Hope is the last remaining sprig of a second Oak of Ages, created by the Old Ones to nurture the nascent Imperial tribes in what would become the Dark Lands. When the Age of Woes happened, it got buried in volcanic ash and the tribes fled west to the Empire. When Sigmar left the Empire he was travelling east to find it in the ancestral Unberogen lands.

The campaign starts with Azhag the Slaughterer's Waaagh, which is complicated by vampires turning up to steal the Crown of Sorcery. Shenanigans ensue that involve revelations and research into the ties between Nagash and Sigmar. Info about Ghal Maraz and the Tree of Hope is discovered, the PCs set off east into the Dark Lands with Nagash cultists/vampires/Sigmarite zealots/greenskins in pursuit. Something something Vampire Prophecies, something something Ghal Maraz, something something Cradle of Life.

I'm thinking of doing wood elves but I need to know how viable the forest spirit units are
Also are zoats ever going to get released?

>>96051608
No.

>>96051238
God(Ariel?) willing it will keep the bad touch fireballs away from me then
>>96051608
Generally treekin and treeman are fantastic and treekin especially are the closest thing we have to an avil I think. I'm no wood expert but almost every batrep I've watched for wood elves has 1 to 2 units of them. Dyrads aren't bad either but the forest spirit rule really limits them as only branchwraiths or makes can join them. Host of Talysn also has some boosts to treestuff.
That said flaming still hurts, dragons and flying monsters can just move around you, and dyrads will crumple vs proper melee stuff. I'd say running tree heavy is fine but you need to have a plan, which is true for all wood elf stuff this edition I think. Then again I'm 2-7 so what do I know other than staglord is chadlord.

>>96051712
>branchwraith or make
Meant branchwraith and mages

>>96051544
>unbeknownst to history, Sigmar was embraced by Vashanesh and is a 2nd gen von Carstein
>he didn't ascend to godhood, but fell into torpor after getting hit by the Second Oak's magic
>he's still trapped beneath it like a mirror-Ariel
>the prophecies, the visions of zealots and flagellants, all of it is true
>Sigmar is beckoning

>>96051544
Nah this owns. A race against other factions to grab some mythical artifact or treasure is classic storytelling.

>>96049921
I remember that, for some reasons, the main online communities of the time (warseer, dakkadakka, the other one I can't ever seem to remember) were REALLY against anything that GW put out for fantasy that wasn't an army book.

I remember endless discussions and threads about how Blood in the badlands was just a money grab that should have been a series of articles on white dwarf, how Sigmar's blood wasn't worth the paper it was printed on because it only focused on two armies, storm of magic? Straight to the recycling bin, those mini campaign/scenarios that were released only digitally and only on Apple software? Fuck you GW where's my plastic tree man?
Thamurkan also had the hurdle of being focused on finecast and limited in scope.

Looking back at it now, it's weird seeing all the toxic aggresivity that came out against things that were just an attempt at revitalizing fantasy.
I acquired a bunch of those campaign and expansions recently and I really like them. BitB is a nice product, and i actually rather like the limited scope of Sigmar's blood despite having neither empire nor undead.

>>96051721
Brunchwench or Maccas?

Back in 1e / 2e fantasy were the sea elves flavored as an independent group from the high elves or was it meant as a term for the naval forces of the high elves?

>>96051896
I wasn't around for it but it does feel weird since the community seems to have decided they love chaos dwarves and the flavor and scenarios seem cool.
Though I can understand it from the perspective armies that were on several edition old army books.

>>96051896
>>96052178

Wargamers do love whining and bitching almost as much as women.

>>96052406
Female wargamers when

Why do only humans become zombies / skeletons

>>96052538
The presumption is wrong, all living beings do.

It's time for men to have their fun.

>>96050016
Most Commanders HAD A MOUNT. This didn't mean that they themselves were mounted all or even half of the time.

>>96044760
The young Franz-looking guy is Karl Franz's bastard son he got with his cousin. He never existed until he was invented fomr some Novel where he froze in face of danger.
The woman's Franz's real wife, and the 2 his daughters. The guy behind is his Standard Bearer

>>96051044
men at arms, fireforge undead warriors, ogre captive bit

>>96050989
neat, beware the moldlines

>>96051896
>for some reasons
because the average guy on there was either a greedy tournament organiser or a sweaty tournament competitor

Never die a hero in Bretonnia, for you will not know the rest of death.

Blocked out the colours on my goat wizard

What are you painting?

>>96053256
He looks pretty chalky, is that the case here?

>>96053274
Nah just my shitty phone camera
Looks much better in person

>>96052538
It's definitely a concept that would be cool to be expanded upon, but there are undead of various animals, and also dragons. You could also run some TK / VC things as undead of other races. Ushabti as undead ogres would be the most obvious answer but any of the constructs work as various monsterous infantry / cav / creatures of other races depending how particular you are about flavor. You could also give an undead character a strike first weapon and pretend they're an elf.

>>96050989
Very nice.

>>96051522
Is that a female elven-Bretonnian Knight?

>>96053729
Nah, art is just fucked.

>>96051522
That knight has a lot of earrings and a nose ring?

>>96053750
>>96053738
It's just the light under their nose.
The ear rings, eyelashes, pointy ears and platinum hair however....

>>96053764
Anon, if the words "female elven-Bretonnian Knight" in this combination do not make you shudder with dread, then there is no helping you.
This is the kind of bullshit I would kick players for in WFRP. Having dealt with female Bretonnian knights and female elf characters, you don't want to combine them.

finished my first warhawk rider. I based his paintscheme on a peregrine, but the picture doesn't show the details on the feathers.

>>96052827
This is intensely confused. They are, from left to right:
>Luitpold, KF's son by his consort, Maria-Luise. Features in the Genevieve books. Named for his grandfather.
>Karl-Franz
>Maria-Luise von Walfen, KF's consort. They were unmarried at the start of his reign (to keep him open for a political marriage), but they marry later. She is his 'distant cousin', probably a second cousin with Siegfried von Walfen as their mutual first cousin. Her father may be Archduke Viktor von Walfen.
>Ludwig Schwarzhelm, the Emperor's Champion (and standard bearer)
>'Princess' Katarina Todbringer, illegitimate daughter of Boris Todbringer
>Alia, KF's daughter by Maria-Luise, sister of Luitpold

Other family members not pictured that people frequently get confused about:
>Isabella von Holswig-Schliestein, KF's sister who currently resides in the Great Hospice of Frederheim due to her prophetic visions and 'madness'
>Wolfgang Holswig-Abenauer, KF's nephew. Is depicted as a mutant in the original Enemy Within, although this differs by version. May be Isabella's son.
>Margaretha Holswig-Abenauer, attends a girl's school near Ubersreik. Potentially Wolfgang's sister.

>>96046643
Let me play the uno reverse card here and state that I would love to get 20-30 of those forgeworld helmets. ;_;

>>96053943
>Isabella von Holswig-Schliestein, KF's sister who currently resides in the Great Hospice of Frederheim due to her prophetic visions and 'madness'
She escapes the hospice in the intro to Archives of Empire vol 3, so she's out in the world now however, I doubt any of the writers will bother to do anything with that.

>>96053838
Nah I see what you'd doing with the wings,
What's the deal with blue face? Is it meant to be war paint? Looks sick

>>96053993
Huh, I totally missed that.
Although cursive fonts give me a headache, which may have something to do with it.

>>96054035
Yeah I just copy and paste the page into Word document to read it
I found the curve used in Imperial Zoo to be worse

>>96053943
>>'Princess' Katarina Todbringer, illegitimate daughter of Boris Todbringer
show of good intents towards the relatively new emperor or is she Maria's daughter with tod?

>>96053786
Oh they do.
That's some modern DnD level of OC donut.

>>96054047
Her mother is an unnamed 'Lady of Court', but presumably Middenheim's court (so not Maria-Luise). In The Enemy Within Director's Cut she is abortively married to Wolfgang which is probably why she's in this picture, even though the timeline of events makes no sense.

Boris is a fucking beast though. Two bastards by different mothers, one legitimate son with his first wife, his second wife was a teenage slaaneshi cult leader who apparently didn't satisy him enough because he had at least one mistress while she was still alive.

>>96054066
It's why you should always make your players roll when making their characters, drastically lowers the chance for special snowflake OCs

>>96054113
Spurce on second wife? Would be interesting if it turned out Khazrak was his son

>>96054194
The Power Behind the Throne for 1e or 4e, additional details in Middenheim: City of Chaos or City of the White Wolf.

Ages and dates can be inferred from details given in the 1e books although they're a little out of date by now. We don't know how exactly Anike-Elise Nikse died but her cult symbol was a jade horsecock so decide for yourself.

>>96054113
The more I hear about todbringer the more he sounds a more charismatic emperor

>>96054255
Oh so she was implied to have dude parts? Damn Boris

What are you working on?

I am playing around with paints on this khorne spawn, having a fun time switching my brain off for a bit and just mixing colours on the model

>>96053943
>Boris Todbringer's daughter looks like an older and younger version of Karl Franz's daughter and wife respectively
A comment about inbred imperial nobility or caused by the artist only being able to draw variations of one face?

>>96054255
>spoiler
Isn't the Slanesh cult you ran called the Jade Sceptre?
I suppose that is what this thing is then

>>96046766
>I always want to buy 4 razorgors but even the proxies are so ugly, godspeed anon the red looks good.
avatars of war released some really nice 3d prints, ill post some pics of mine at some point.

>>96054255
Jade sceptre is not jade, but literally a sceptre, not a euphemism for dong. It's actually warpstone. The idol that gave the cult its name features in Call of the Liche Lord.

new HE GM book out now

>>96054508
It's even worse than that, the artwork was photobashed and then shoddily traced over/fed through a slop machine. KFC's body is a screenshot of his TWW model, all the faces were copied and pasted (that's why the little girl's looks extra fucked up), and I'm pretty sure Schwarzhelm was copied from older artwork.

>>96054696
The artwork itself is from 2021(it's from the Altdorf splatbook), which came out years before people were using AI in art.
That artist is pretty lazy though

a map of Cothique of other parts of northeastern Ulthuan the rotation is a bit wierd

Does Cathay use warpstone?

>>96054826
Yes probably more than the Empire or the Dwarfs but much less than the Skaven.

>>96054766
Yeah that seemed almost flattened out
Any cool pics of trianoc?

So sea guards are from Lothern only or can other kingdoms have their own sea guards?
Same thing for caledor dragon princes

>>96054766
Wow, it's fucking nothing. Are there any new locations at all? It doesn't look like it.

I was hoping for a good case study into a detailed area of Ulthuan, but I guess GW has limited them to regurgitating existing background with a little more information. Like the Lustria book.

>>96054875
No, the book is a splat about Cothique no other kingdoms are given much depth

I haven't play/paint in years, I used to collect wood elves back in 2015. Yesterday I resumed the painting of an old unit, are they in good shape?

What current mini would be the best way to replicate this image of Girfang Rotgut? Stupidly thick metal plate armour, spikes and an enormous blade.

>>96054888
not really, no

>>96054826
The iron dragon experiments with it, they have giant sentinels made with that stuff guarding the warpstone desert, and they meteor they called down on the ogres was made of warpstone.

>>96054893
Ahh well fantasy Maine still looks fun
>>96054964
Yes and no. The Arcane journal does open up a few playstyles (all cav aggro, defensive with trees) and when built right and played right you can win games through constant movement and trading. Treekin, glade riders, deepwoodscouts/glade guard and our lords are all very solid. Unfortunately most our items are meh to shit (barring a few like regen armor, helm, and oaken staff) a ton of our units suck ass, our magic is kind of bad offensively, and we have been paying for the sins of other factions all edition long. Dragon nerfs, poison nerfs, light cav nerfs, and a few others have punished a mid tier army. Then our army has so many restrictions often (need kindred to join some stuff for example which locks out options, MUST buy a waystalker for waywatchers, etc.) All while there continues to be a meta of fast flying stuff or big tough blocks of infantry both which we struggle into. Basically it's not terrible but many other factions are eating much better. You can still wood elf just know there are limits.

>>96055058
Is Maine known for its preppers in real life,or is that just Washington/Oregon?

>>96055079
Oh definetly Westcoast but they are more inland usually
This is fantasy Idaho with a coastline then

>>96054826
they have entire building sized golems made out of it

>>96055079
>high elves trying to besmirch a skilled gardener's good name so they can recruit him & make him work on their garden
Very tsun. Cute.

>>96055111
It's clay infused with warpstone dust rather than pure warpstone, thank god. That much raw warpstone would probably turn the local area into a mini mordheim and have half the underempire fighting themselves to get their hands on it.

map for Cothique capital Tor Koruali
im not sure why the map stops instead of just showing the rest of the wall

>>96055228
Yeah, not into this weird walled park-with-buildings thing.

Greenery is fine, plenty of historical cities were quite green. But a High Elf city needs some design, some feng shui. This looks like a map of a holiday park.

>>96055228
Center parcs ass city

so friday next week 18th of july something big is about to happen
will they complete the cathay miniature range and will there be major updates to old world as a whole even though they just released the update, or was that update just there to prepare everyone for what was to come

>>96055365
>will they complete the cathay miniature range
no, we got already told that there are no new miniatures to reveal for the army, nor for the second arcane journal for them planned for later in the year

the announcements for the old world on the 18th is the reintroduction of old dogs of war miniatures in an arcane journal for mercenary units

Which of these Orcs could I kitbash/convert more to look like >>96055009?

Also which of the two do you think looks better /tg/?

>>96055365
I'd imagine it will be some sneak peaks of the supposed next AJ, maybe a tease of a legacy army and more Cathay wank.

>>96055477
I know contrarian people here always like to shit on new but the new Blorc hero is pretty cool.

>>96055228
>galineth amphitheatre
>a fucking circus tent

>>96055521
Avatars of War really pulled that strajght. I should have clarified, emulate Gorfang in a battlefield pose based off the depiction of him in the image. Not a replica of the image. That said, might buy that one now for an RPG.

>>96055477
I like how dense the guy on the left is, face has more character too, looks more cruel. The orc on the rights face makes me think of a pissed off pug.

>>96055563
you better scale them to around 90% because they are really big compared to old 28mm models

statline for Shadowblade in WFRP

>>96055365
I wager it’ll be Dogs of War since they have the key word on the website already that anons found and rumors elsewhere. I would commit to a full Cathay army outside of a painting project if they released Battle Monks though.

>>96055228
Who put the gymnasium in the sea ?

>>96055477
Is this one not available? I'm sure that once you remove the shield, change the head and swap the weapon you can end up with one close to the concept and somewhat novel looking

>>96055804
Cothqie Elves really like the sea and water sports so the gym is mostly about them

>>96055477
I like the chainmail and over all design of the regular warboss more, but I think the new blorc boss would probably be easier to work with, since you could have an easier time adding and removing hands, weapons, extra bits of armour, ect...

I personally think both look good, and have their own positives, though I am a bit of a sucker for older FW sculpts.

>mfw I see all the Heresy 3.0 changes.
I hope TOW doesn't get a new edition for a long time.

>>96056468
We will know in 18 months

>>96044988
kys jaded cunt

>>96056468
change is good

>>96056468
Its a lot of changes, but it is getting more complex which is a breathe of relief from modern GW's "simplified, not simple" garbage. The TOW 1.5 update was also pretty good so I have faith.
>>96055795
>>96055441
The headdress was for TK, so we might just see TK next week. We do know from an extremely credible leaker and the website bug (not the store one, Dogs of War have been a category since the Orcs added the giant) that Southern Realms is coming with old DoW minis.

>>96056567
>The headdress was for TK
Why not Necrons for 40k/Kill Team?

>>96055835
Is there anything interesting on Tiranoc? They've always struck me as kind of vanilla.

>>96056596
>Why not Necrons for 40k/Kill Team?
Not impossible, but we know there is going to be Old World stuff at the preview show. Other hats are definitely 40k themed or have strong 40k potential whereas the Pharoah hat is so extremely TK-y. Necrons are somewhat Egypt-y but I dont think they have that kind of hat, they're more scarab-y.

>>96056567
>The headdress was for TK
We already have a necron vs deathwatch rumor, I wouldn't hold my breath for kangs.

>>96056632
No, not even in the section of the book about Chariots, the thing Tironoc is known for.
The players' guide had a small section on them, but nothing brand new.
The GM Guide is focused on Cothique as a location where a lot of intrigue and politicking is happening and has a non-high elves population, which is non-existent outside of Lothern

>>96049905
I'm pretty sure Henry V fought on foot, dude

>>96056567
>Southern Realms
that's not their name

>>96056693
And we already have a borderlands campaign and TK content rumored. I trust the OW leaker though, he's almost as accurate as Whitefang at this point.

>>96056705
It's what's listed in the core rulebook and what the leaker said they're going to be renamed. More of a Tilea/Estalia focus on less full soup of mercs mode.

>>96056654
good luck finding a necron hat in a random pile of non-warhammer related hats.
next you'll tell me they couldn't possibly use a traffic cone for custodes.

>>96055494
>>96055877
>>96055592
>>96055877
Thanks /tg/. Think I will go for the left guy. Looks more bulky and chunky and I think his sub blades on his back would be adequate.

>>96055818
Afraid not. He isn't my full cup mainly cause buying a kit is a monthly investment.

>>96056732
You don't need a necron hat, anything vaguely robot-like would have sufficed. Tomb KANGZ own the Pharoah look now

>>96056731
>It's what's listed in the core rulebook and what the leaker said they're going to be renamed.
nothing of that is true

>>96056731
The core rulebook calls it the Southern Kingdoms rather than realms

>>96056752
could be Thousand Sons for HH/LI, that's another Egypt-inspired faction.

>>96056703
I know Henry did and it wasn't unheard of. But my autism started with

>playing old warhammer game from 90s
>want to make collection of the mercs
>realise leader is on horse
>suddenly realise 99% of leaders are on horse in Warhammer
>realise same for history
>hurts my autism in liking foot leaders

That's my tism story

>>96056782
Very unlikely considering they just got their stuff.
>>96056766
>>96056763
Still not Dogs of War, and yes, the Dogs of War filter has been on the website since last year.

pretty smart move if they pull this off
literally everyone gets something new and is inclined to buy the full range to play them as their own army too

>>96056632
>>96056699
Bummer to hear. The little lore they have for Trianoc is so interesting. Arrogant and bitter (almost as much as the Nagarythe) they still chariot and it's why they lack silver helms, while they were known to be major contributors to colonies (mostly new world iirc). They also have very solid levies and often serve at the gates.
There's fertile ground (ironic for them since their fertile land is underwater) of a land full of sunken cities, beautiful lands, dangerous coasts, trade connections, and families still clinging on. I'd imagine if the new world ever got a glow up we'd see more.
>who am I kidding they'd just wank caeldor and nagarrythe more.

Dogs of War have been on the website since at LEAST May of 2024. Probably earlier. It's just what the Giants and Ogres get classified under.

>>96056840
I don’t know what part of the world you are in but not here in NA.

>>96056881
I am in NA. It's annoying but you gotta go to Shop All, then choose filters, then choose Armies of the Old World and it'll pop up.

>>96055682
How big is the left guy to a regular orc boy?

I also thought of this guy from the big un set but I think he may be too small.

>>96056937
forgot to mention that you are safe if you were planning on basing them to new old world bases

>>96056766
It also calls the dwarf section the ancestor gods and the wood elves section the enchanted woods, that's not the name of the faction.

>>96056812
except noone will buy the extremely overpriced metals, people will simply proxy all the units, so it might shake the meta, it might move the arcane journals, but the dogs of war units themselves won't fly off the virtual shelves.

>>96057094
Ya no bother, that was the plan. Plus they come with TOW bases to begin with.

>>96055228
For a city focused around the sea, I was expecting more docks and rivers and canals and shit.

>>96057141
It's all underground A lot of Tor Koruali is built into the bedrock of Cothique, so that's where all the industry docks and warehouses for the city are

>>96056795
You're being retarded. Foot generals were common in 6th. I only use foot generals because it's kino, I don't care if it's less optimal.

>>96057235
Honestly with the new changes to challenges against dragon lords, if you have a unit champion its actually VERY safe to be in the brick now, so its a viable strat.

>>96056840
I’d say that just confirms it was in the books long term to happen. Like how Cathay and Kislev had design documents drawn up since TOW’s launch, but they only just released Cathay over a year later. I’m willing to hope until I’m proven wrong lmao.

>>96056840
I fucking knew I wasn't going crazy
>>96057139
They've redone some old metal kits in resin right, like the war wagon ? Because metal prices are absolutely brutal, especially compared to the rest of tow which is relatively forgiving for a gw game

>>96057432
Yeah calling Mercs from the start Dogs of War was intentional for sure. Just wanted to point out the website thing isn't a leak (unlike the Map leak which was 100% unintended).
>>96057434
We were getting gaslit bro

>>96057284
What changes?

I've been out of the loop since last summer.

>>96057508
Dragons or their lords (whoever has lower initiative) no longer get to overkill onto unit champs/characters if the enemy is killed during a higher initiative step, so you're generally only get 1-3 combat res from fighting. Also except for Chaos Lord on dragon, the new 10US requirement for the close order static res means dragon lords don't get it anymore. So its very easy for infantry bricks to win in static resolution against dragons.

>>96057235
In the fluff and history man. Of course foot gwnerals were common in WHF bit for an "accurate" leader, they'd be mounted.

>>96057693
Accurate is what you want it to be. Warhammer is not history. You can tailor fluff to your liking, they are YOUR DUDES. If your general likes to fight on foot then so what

I am getting back into fantasy after 10 years
Chosen empire
I have borghi 60 state troops

What do you think is a decent loadout?
I was thinking for sure at least 25 spears and 20 halberds. Could it be a decent choice to make 15 swordsmen with the rest?

Hey empire chads, I just finally pulled the trigger on an empire lot and am ready to drive back the darkness with combat res and guns. Any ideas for a 1k list? I got
>25 gunners with sprues for 5 more missile troops
>20 swordsmen and 10 state troopers on sprue plus extra parts
>12 knights with lances
>1 foot hero, 1 grandmaster
I also have some good proxy artillery for any of the empire ones.
Any ideas to build to 1k? My gut says use the extra bodies to make 15 halbs or spears, use the gunners for detachments, and use a great cannon? As for my Heros any good combos for foot and knight?

>>96057901
Oh anon, you poor sod.

>>96057901
Right now Halberds and Swords are both good, but spears don't have a lot of play. Then again proxying is the norm for loadouts so just build what you think is cool.
But for sure Sword and Shield > Halberds >>> spears imo

>>96057729
Good point, just my autism flaring.

Are there no seeds anymore? Can't even get the metadata.

>>96054464
That putty work you did around the joints really does elevate what was originally a fairly weak model from GW, hes looking good lad

Started doing some work on a lightly converted second giant, pretty happy with the skin so far, pants and weapon next. Unsure if I want to give him a tattoo of some sort.

How many minotaurs is too many for a 1k list?

I've got 6

>TQ
Been working on Dawi for a while and finished my BSB. I think the only models left to paint for a 2K army are a gyrobomber (running it as a gyrocopter for variety's sake since I already have a copter painted), and 20 dwarf warriors. I'm for sure going to keep expanding my dwarf roster before doing another army. I still have slayers, anvil of doom, other lord and engineer models, grudge thrower, cannon, etc. If I were to start a new army, who should I choose between Warriors of Chaos and Greenskins?

>>96059249
That is gorgeous. Zamn.

>>96056530
>>96056567
I don't know guys. Just poke you head into /hhg/ because they're having a melt down over the new edition.
I really hope GW don't fumble fantasy (again).

>>96059747
I’m more worried about things that don’t have models to get removed next edition than the game being shit

having fun plugging away on the zombies

>>96058700
I like that flesh a lot.

Conspicuous mold line on the right arm's bicep strap though desu

>>96059967
Looking good.

>>96049905
How many painted models do you have

>>96059967
Awesome, the used mushrooms after all. I like your splatter effect.

>>96044634 (OP)
>TQ
Dark Elves... Dark Elves.

>>96059747
In my defense that comment was made with pre-leak knowledge. People were pretty positive before the dam of shit burst today.

It's minotaur time fukbois

>>96061183
>Minotaur
>Obviously a cow

Those models don't match the art at all

Razorgors

>>96061464
Brother that's fuckin sick,
Link models or is this a kitbash?

>>96061495
Avatars of war 3d print, got it off etsy

Another one

How did we get so lucky that our errata is overall amazing and listened to community feedback and put the game into a much better position? Looking at HH 3.0 and it looks like a train wreck that would make me doubt the future of TOW if it weren’t for how recent and good the errata changes were. Are we the favourite children of specialist games?

>>96061513
It’s easy to just copy both past editions and other fan editions. HH had to changed because the settings more…unique compared to tow.

>>96061534
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>>96061534
>>96061534
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