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>Previous Thread:
>>96064944

>Thread Question:
What are your thoughts on fan made 40k content be they anything really?

>TQ
Most of it these days feels like artists pretending to like the IP to get followers on social media.
There's a reason that the Astartes fan film got so popular. Because it is a real diamond in a pile of coal.

Watcha working on /40kg/? I'm slowly doing my dinobot.

half finished my crimson fists dreadnought

because crimson fists ARE the best chapter, bar none

>>96071432 (OP)
Is there any good fan-made content for Eldar factions? If there is, I've never seen much of it.

>>96071453
are you making a legends-friendly army or just hobbying?

>>96071448
Working on my space Romans.
Need to paint their gray shoes and then check around for mistakes and correct them.

>>96071467
just hobbying, friend did say he wanted to play some 3.5e so i'll make 500pts of MK6 crimson fists for that

post models

took a picture of my orks carpark, think next I'll try get away from wheels and tracks and loot something I could make into a deff dread or gorkanaut

>>96071432 (OP)
Was CS Goto's multi-lasers the Orc City moment of 40k lit?

>>96071495
All right, what is the context of this meme? Is there some kind of weird drama going on around some genre-slop writer being a critic?

>>96071505
Guy who wrote that book made a twitter thread about how kijimas Metal gear solid villian fat man was poorly written. So someone posted that intro to his book and he became a meme with everyone tearing about its very poor and clunky prose and shit uncreative fantasy ideas.
As much as we rightly shit on bl its still in another league compared to the mountain of modern self published sci-fi/fantasy author drivel

>>96071505
yeah the guy took a swipe at Kojima's writing (of MGS fame), specifically the fatman character from MGS2. Turns out he is a writer as well though and that is his magnum opus

>>96071521
>nah bro i'm good
>*dies*

>>96071432 (OP)
>TQ
I like it

>>96071528
>Whump
Dare I ask?

>>96071466
there's damn near infinite horny Eldar fanart

>>96071528
Is it a prerequisite or dare I say requirement to be mentally unwell to be an artist these days? Or has it always been like this?

>>96071536
I think it means a lot of severe physical and/or mental pain over a long period of time

>>96071539
Okay but what about actually good fanart

>>96071542
there's an undeniable connection between artistic inclinations and mental illnesses, and there's also the fact that if you're sane and healthy you know it's better to have practical pursuits than artistic ones

>want to start Tyranids
>look for combat patrol
>find out that the whole combat patrol is part of starter set and is only $20 more expensive than the nid patrol

Won't say no to free Space Marine patrol, but... I don't particularly like Space Marines. What do you guys do with such models you gather over years and have no desire to play? Into the pile it goes? Bits of victims of your glorious heroes, decorating the ground? Luring your friends to play?

>>96071574
Selling your friends a half space marine army for $20 is a good way to get them into the hobby.

>>96071559
Fixed it.

>>96071574
sell

>>96071466
That would require Eldar to have a substantial in the first place.

>>96071582
>didn't add a bulge
why even bother?

>>96071542
This one is especially mentally ill.

>>96071582
>>96071539
Lol, I never noticed the original doesn't even have elf ears

>>96071559
There isn't much out there, It really is 90% Dark Eldar thirst

Anybody here know what contrast medium is made of?
I want to make some washes for terrain painting and I feel that relying on 17ml bottles is gonna eventually add up to a lot of money.

>>96071582
actual fixed

>>96071646
kek

>>96071466
Eldar are the designated waifu faction, which for 40k leaves them in a fairly bad spot.
On the bright side the Ynnari brought about tons of fan-art of Yvraine and Guilliman.

>>96071466
>this nigga too newfaggot for LCB
>or Macha
Sheeeit

>>96071690
None cares

>>96071709
I care about laughing at newfags.

Oh boy here we go

>>96071610
Scorpion dude is too big.
Also, counter-argument, r34 have no place in 40k since sex drives are huge taboo for the main factions.

>>96071736
>r34 have no place in 40k
No one cares, GW.
We'll draw eldar and tau porn if we want.

>>96071736
>implying genestealers aren't a main faction

Any major worldbuilding shit for the votann in their latest book?

>>96071432 (OP)
Imperial Agents expansion is coming...
I can feel it...
>TQ
After what GW did to Astartes and TTS everyone in the community got scared of making actually half decent and worked on fan content so now we are stuck with hornybait sloppa and people making goofy gag comics about 40k for online relevance over being part of a niche community with fuckers like Idiot Of The East and that other dude who draws a bunch of hyper sloppa. It's almost like being hostile to fan content makes it so people won't want to make quality content anymore...
The fan art is still great though and just the general aesthetics of 40k do a lot of heavy lifting in inspiring great artists to work with it

Hrud codex next year

>>96071664
>Eldar are the designated waifu faction
Tau are the designated waifu faction

>>96071758
>the codex has not artworks, descriptions or informations, and no models either, only unit profiles

>>96071763
A correction then; Eldae WERE the designated waifu faction. Now they're just nothing.

>>96071750
The High Khal? I think I remember people saying it had disappointingly little look at the culture or factions of the votann because it was largely focused on a small group of outcast characters and their personal quirks. Which is probably fine, but doesn't do much to alleviate the dearth of context around the faction.

>>96071664
>Eldar are the designated waifu faction
not the faction that are all literal wives?

>>96071736
>since sex drives are huge taboo for the main factions
Drukhari, Slaanesh, and Emperor's Children exist
It's only really space marines that are chaste. I don't even think Sisters of Battle actually are despite the Catholic nun association.

when will Sisters get bikers?

>>96071774
I had been thinking in thw past when SoB models were ugly as sin and got little traction. As with the other post, Eldar WERE the waifu faction, though that's not the case any more.

>>96071774
is this one of those slop pictures where the girl has a huge cock too?

>>96071774
I cum again

>>96071772
Now they are free to choose their own destiny

>>96071779
Hopefully never, nobody under 45 likes bike squads.

>>96071779
Probably before Chaos gets their old 3rd ed biker sculpts replaced.

>>96071559
>good fanart
And also that Iraq war vibes eldar arts by Miguel Mitchell Da Silva
>>96071736
>Scorpion dude is too big
Eldar height are between 1.9 and 2.2 metres, and scorpos are tanky aspect

>>96071789
>posts yvraine
lol

lmao

>>96071791
They're unironically meta for CSM

>>96071763
Tau in general are everything Eldar and Eldarfags wished to be.
>benelovent deity watches over them
>told Imperium to eat shit
>cool and functional tanks and war walkers
>repelled Chaos and Tyranid invasions on their own

>>96071779
WHY DIDN'T DOOMRIDER COME BACK WITH THE NEW EMPEROR'S CHILDREN CODEX LIKE WHAT THE FUCK
I get that the White Scars killed him but come now he's a demon prince he can revive

>>96070595
because kit-kats fuck

And because I repainted over a model I had lying around from when I first started the hobby. Back when reusing sprue as basing “bricks” was the best i had

>>96071736
>Scorpion dude is too big.
no, he's not

>>96071736
>Scorpion dude is too big.
I generally think there shouldn't be a huge size difference between male and female Eldar, but Striking Scorpions are supposed to be the only aspect that can contend with a marine in terms of strength. I don't mind them being depicted as being bigger than average is weird.
>sex drives are huge taboo for the main factions.
The Imperium depends on numbers, so I sincerely doubt that making babies is taboo for them. Even Craftworld Eldar's population is held back mostly by limited spirit stones, rather than some puritanical fear of procreation.

>>96071664
I dont think than gulyvrane shippers was been a ynnari fans

>>96071777
>Drukhari
Don't have a boner just as their CWE kin
>Slaanesh, and Emperor's Children
More about torture and perfectionism

>>96071789
>Now they are free to choose their own destiny
So they continue to be losers by their own choice?

>>96071793
>Eldar height are between 1.9 and 2.2 metres, and scorpos are tanky aspect
Eldar males are supposed to be slim as females.

>>96071492
ratlings I finished earlier this week
I'm not particularly proud with them but w/e, I'm kinda burnt out from all the painting recently
I think I'll paint some terrain this weekend for a break

speaking of Sisters, what's a good source for whip bits? My Order is focused on not just protecting humanity but also punishing people for their sins, so I want whips to be the default melee weapon. I want all sergeants to have whips, at least

>>96071820
arcoflagellants, hellstriders,

Why don't sisters use the larger plasma weapons, hell before the palatine I don't remember them ever even having plasma.

>>96071789
Gav Thorpe has done irreparable damage to the faction and he shouldn't be allowed within 500 feet of elves.

>>96071843
anon we say that about every author who isn't making everything a reference rome or world war 2

>>96071838
because the holy trinity is the Bolter, the Flamer, and the Melta

>>96071819
looking good anon

>>96071820
Old repentia superior had a whip (in the combat patrol of 9th) and drukhari kabalites and succubi can have whips.

>>96071838
because plasma weapons look more conventionally sci fi while sisters thrive on the anachronistic look.

>>96071848
Jain Zar, Lelith, a solitaire and the Ynnari trio all fail to kill a single Keeper of Secrets in their own book. He gets off on humiliating the Eldar.

>>96071843
>he shouldn't be allowed within 500 feet of elves
why the fuck did I read this wrong?

>>96071843
Fighting scenes by Gav are fucking awful, but:
>son/mother incest sex between Malekith and Morati
>straight sex in 40k novels in 2011
>love triangle between ranger, biel-tan exile gal and dark eldar piratess
>free sex in aspect shrines
>free sex in most puritanical craftworld
>path of drug addict
>path of prostitute
>male howling banshee exarch is male without troon slop
>sexist quotes about iybraesil maidens
>wraithkin politics
>Jain Zar regreting about not being able to have sex
>Jain Zar's mind rape by deldar archon
Emm, he still way better than brooks
>>96071880
That was been in Phoenix rising campaign, Gav doesn't wrote that

>>96071820
talk to a daughters of khaine age of sigmar player. they have a unit called witch elves, which is a dual build kit, and the second build all have whips, 10 man squad, 10 whip bits they are likely to have bought multiple times since its a horde unit and the core infantry unit of the army

>>96071900
>>free sex in aspect shrines
Wait you mean if I'm some bumfuck Eldar civilian I can just go to a Howling Banshee shrine and spend the night with one?

>>96071448
Trying to do my Court of the Archon. I think I messed up her eyes and I'm tempted to just wipe away the head and start again.

>>96071646
Still no bulge

>>96071917
It's probably how the Banshees and other aspects fund their shrines.

>>96071779
Women really can't ride bikes, the vibrations set them off.

>>96071917
No, you must been in shrine, in gav's novel female striking scorpion offered herself as sexual consolation to her shrine-brother

>>96071925
if you just hit the eyes with some eyeliner it will probably be passable

>>96071938
>Aspect Shrines are militarized strip clubs and brothels
Now we're talking.
>>96071943
That's lame

>>96071925
hit the eyes with a thin red wash and they'll be serviceable

>>96071453
cool ultramarines dread

>>96071900
>Gav doesn't wrote that
I find it so hard to believe that he didn't have creative input in Phoenix Rising.

>>96071927
oh right, you reminded me

>>96071974
Thanks, I hate it.

>>96071974
I love it, now add primaris armour to it

>>96071492
finally picked up the brush today after recovering from an injury two weeks ago. thinking about submitting pic related for this month since there are like four other ork dudes already

>>96071957
I think what you're doing is a textbook case of making up reasons to get mad at people. You could instead point to Phil Kelly who was actually in the studio working on this stuff and went on camera talking about the plot and the characters of the book in GW's promotional videos. But instead you're talking about someone else because his involvement was revealed to you in a dream or something.

Other then Sisters, what army can take the most flamers?

>>96071811
I can tell you've never read these books because you would know there are multiple fucking orgies

How do I get a Warhammer GF?

>>96072010
The Imperial Guard in theory. They have dedicated flame tanks too.

>>96072010
orks. burna boyz are fun and cheap

>>96072014
You pay a woman to stand in front of your camera while holding small things.

>>96072012
>there are multiple fucking orgies
Doesn not require boner

>>96072014
>get a normal GF
>tell her you want to share your interests with her
>show her Tyranids

Why won't GW let them be good?

>>96071974
Eldar don't have body hair or eyebrows

>>96071774
SoB is the most sexless faction though.

>>96072014
that's the neat part. you don't

to be real tho these cunts are either vapid IG whores or just as disgusting as your average death guard player

>>96071492
Awoo

>>96072032
Pretty sure Necrons are the most sexless faction

>>96071974
But enough about the Custodes

>>96072039
aren't they like the new lgbtqwerty faction?

Why is everyone in this general obsessed with Eldar / Dark Eldar? Can't think of anything more boring than "elves in space".

>>96072052
bugs in space will always be the most boring sci fi enemy

>>96071819
don't stress it anon they look neat

>>96072052
Space Marines are obsessed with becoming Eldar and proving they're taller and faster and stronger.

>>96072014
Do you go to gameshop to play? I have a single sister that would definitely love a nerd guy who paints models and plays 40k or AoS, and only married older guys show at the place. I just have to warn you that the stereotypes are a bit true regarding the Tyranids/Drukhari/Death Guard.

But in general, get a gf, let her paint a model (or tell her a bit tyranid or drukhari lore first), show her how to work with airbrush, boom, you share a hobby and you have Warhammer GF. Another option is to get a gf who has a brother that plays 40k/AoS, because then it's likely her parents bought her frequently battleforce boxes to make it fair during christmas season, even if she didn't ask for it.

>>96072010
Follow up question: What is the largest amount of flamers I can overwatch with a single unit?

>>96072052
>space marines
knights in space

>admech
priests in space

>LoV
Dwarves in space

>Tyranids
bugs in space

>>96072027
because -
1. GW wants faction specific terminators (Wolfguard, DWK, Deathshroud, scarab occult) to be stronger than vanilla terminators.
2. GW wants these to be focal points of the army, but not busted broken
3. Since vanilla Terminators have to be worse than the faction specific ones, they end up terrible.

>>96072076
>I just have to warn you that the stereotypes are a bit true regarding the Tyranids/Drukhari/Death Guard.
>Bang Drukhari
>Marry Tyranids
>Kill Death Guard

>>96072058
NtA but personally I always thought an uncaring hungering horde fits neatly into a setting with the unknown vastness of space. it also lends well for an opponent with whom any negotiation is pointless from the get go, so it's actually great for a setting revolving around endless war

>>96072027
cool model curse
if you look good you don't need busted rules to sell

>>96072118
>an uncaring hungering horde fits neatly into a setting with the unknown vastness of space. it also lends well for an opponent with whom any negotiation is pointless from the get go, so it's actually great for a setting revolving around endless war
Chaos does it better, and Chaos is the spice of Warhammer

>>96072128
>Chaos does it better
no, it doesn't
>and Chaos is the spice of Warhammer
that's orks and their type of humor

you fundamentally don't understand warhammer

>>96072128
but chaos can be theoretically bargained with. there could be some form of truce between loyalists and chaos factions which is completely out of the question for a faction which literally just wants to eat

>>96072118
Boring doesn't mean bad. Its boring partly because how well it fits and the fact that you can go back to 1910 and find people writing about space bugs from the moon/mars.

>>96072081
>Dwarves in space
I never understood why people where so hyped for their return. they are one of the most boring factions in 40k

>>96072152
boring implies something better fitting for the situation. tropes only get established because they fundamentally work

>>96072152
>go back to 1910
you can go further back, man, giant insects in the void between planets are a thing in one of the first purposeful works of fiction in the second century AD

>>96072038
I feel sorry for you since you apparently know how to paint well and still chose the furries

>>96072177
I seriously think there isn't a bad choice of space marine chapter. Quite literally all of them are good, change my mind. Excluding out of universe meta shit like the Crusaders of Bisexual Pride or whatever

>tfw still haven't been tabled yet

How often does it happen? I've lost many times but never tabled

>>96072205
>I seriously think there isn't a bad choice of space marine chapter.
All of them are bad choices, but space wolves and blood angels are particularly bad choices.

>>96072209
You really underestimate how many of the '10th edition sucks' retards are just genuinely awful at the game. 10th is specifically designed so that you can't get tabled, that's the whole point of the premade map layouts.

>>96072014
being okay with transwomen would be the easiest step.

>>96072052
murder drug addict flesh tyrant rape pirates aren't that boring of a faction desu

>>96072014
how do you keep one

>>96072014
You don’t. At best you snag a neurodivergent qt that will help you with your hobbying. I’ve tried several times and the actual game side of things just doesn’t appeal to her. And I got a pretty autistic one. Handy for organizing sprue and bits tho.

>>96072118
The best part about nids is learning all the little quirks about their anatomy and how their biological guns and units work as one big fictional ecosystem! Even if giant bugs roaming in space is not very biologically accurate, how are they void capable...
Still bugs me as to why they don't feast off nebula and the like during their travels

>>96072244
Evolutionary biology sure is fun

>>96072244
>The best part about nids is learning all the little quirks about their anatomy
This image is fanfiction.
You're just making up shit.

>>96072251
it was canon in the 4e codex, but i think it may have been retconned later on

>>96072209
At my LGS people who get tabled typically just push their units up mid without a care in the world.
Like they think the redemptor's -1 to damage will unironically do anything against actual proper anti-tank.

How does this look for a 1.5k ork list

Beastboss (with headwhoppas)
Warboss
Weirdboy

10 beast snaggas
2x10 boyz

6 breaka boyz
2x5 flash gitz
11 grots
5 nobz
5 stormboyz
2x6 tankbustas

3xtrukk

>>96072211
Yes anon, I really agree with you that red and light blue are such awful colours and they really just make those confounding space marines even worse than they already were, for some reason.

>>96072257
I know the pic you talk about, but majority of that image is just made up.

>>96072211
dogshit opinion. Get your t-levels checked, I'm deadly serious.

>>96072251
I could have put a image of a big tittied norn emissary and my point would still stand firm. I just wanted something related to the topic

>>96072048
if anything that's admech

>>96072205
You're right.
Only people disagree or get mad about this are just butthurt that marines are the posterboys and their faction isn't.

Honestly if any other faction, say like orks, was the posterboys of 40k instead of marines, the same people would despise the orks because they get shoved into everything and the setting/game revolves around them.

>>96072211
trvth nvke

>>96072244
>Still bugs me as to why they don't feast off nebula and the like during their travels
who says they don't? it's already hard enough for the factions to keep track of the important stuff they devour let alone the unimportant stuff nobody watches over.

if the question is a generalized "why fight to eat defended stuff instead of eating stuff nobody wants peacefully" the answer is that everything you kill is one less threat that might decide to come after you in the future.

>>96072246
speculative biology is a very fun way to pass the time. man after man still disturbs me to some degree

>>96072251
>You're just making up shit.
NTA, but I have my own theoretical evolutionary tree for nids and fantasy monsters, it's fun to make shit up.

Mornin' /40kg/.
How does a preacher with chainsword using pic related as a head sound?
Not sure if I should commit to it. Through resizing and fitting in Blender yet.

>>96072251
yes, and?

>>96072225
ime all nerd girls are taken because they are a hot commodity. its pure luck to find one in between relationships. the really annoying thing is being a transwomen with a cloud of beta orbiters who are into you but you aren't into them and they don't know you are trans so they all have autistic poorly emotionally regulated crushes on you and your boyfriend only plays mtg so you don't have the boyfriend defence a lot of the time because he's in another part of the store

>>96072284
I have theorized for a while about the most recent common ancestor of the tyranids

>>96072300
go on

>>96072275
>I could have put a image of a big tittied norn emissary
That would've been preferable.
>and my point would still stand firm.
It really doesn't when the image is majorly fanfiction.
Like how the fuck can you say that straight faced that you're "I like learning how a fictional alien units and guns works as an ecosystem." and then you use a picture that is not official and is fanmade, ie. pure speculation and conjecture.
It's like saying "I like to learn about quantum physics!" but then you post some scifi crap that isn't real or accurate in anyway.

Fucking nerd.

>>96072291
honestly, I don't see models with big headgears as looking fine when wielding weapons you have to flail around and move fast with, they look best with slower or more static weapons.

Like a heavy chainaxe or a shotgun with a chainbayonet

>>96072296
>transwomen with a cloud of beta orbiters who are into you but you aren't into them and they don't know you are trans
that's just like that time my landlord gifted me a month of free rent for being such a swell guy

>>96072296
>the really annoying thing is being a transwoman
agreed

>>96072244
Nid bioships have an infinite gravity hack method of FTL. They create a gravity well in the direction they want and fall into it at speed while also wrinkle in timing to make it a shorter distance. I assume they are just durable enough to run into space dust without exploding. Nid fleets have pulped imperial ones plenty of times.

>>96072286
Fanfiction is pointless and useless.
And no, I don't care to see it or hear you talk about it. It's as bad as some retard who tries talk to you about the fanmade space marine chapter and lore behind it.
Stop it.

>guy at my LGS puts his models in a backpack
atleast use a tupperware container or a shoebox what the fuck

>>96072329
the point is having fun
the use is having fun
why are you into the hobby if not to make things for fun?

you are in the hobby, right?

>>96072341
Fun is a buzzword.

>>96072286
Wait are you the Nid taxonomy chart guy? Good shit if so.

>>96072329
The fanmade space marine chapter and lore behind it is actually more interesting than most of what GW is doing these days

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96072052
I think elf wizards are neat no matter what setting they are in

>>96072344
No, I'm another autist.

>>96072304
since the hive mind is to some extent psychic the first true tyranid must've been a synapse creature, we can then look at the traits all tryanids have to use the law of monphyly to determine what the common ancestor must be

>>96072362
Elves, not eldar

>>96072343
I'm taking that as a "no, I'm not in the hobby and can't have fun".

>>96072078
Burnaboyz can have 8 flamers
Dunno if sisters can take more in any squad

>>96072078
I think rubrics can take up to 9 flamers.

>>96072390
actually a full 10 if the leader takes a pistol, nevermind.

>>96072372
I do have fun, I just build and paint models.
Ie. what the hobby really is about.

>>96072366
>implying tyranids couldn't have existed as a functional eusocial species before developing psychic communication.
if the first tyranid was psychic, why are the vast majority of tyranids non-synaptic?

>>96072296
>they don't know you are trans
lmao they know, you can stop kidding yourself. They're just desperate enough to "not care" since they're fat, sweaty nerds. Or their brains are fried from too much exposure to far left garbage.

>>96071999
Cute grot

>>96072313
So something like the preacher with vindictor model?
I found another STL proxy of it and I think I can edit off the head and replace it with the spyre head.

>>96072366
thats like saying life must have come from water. it's kinda a no brainer at this point. what's actually interesting is the evolution of said synapse creature. like how did the hive mind evolve in the first place? and how did it seemingly gain the knowledge of advanced bio chemistry to adapt to any kind of external pressure? the knowledge on how to adapt must be there in order to adapt this quickly, no? I simply refuse to accept that through sheer reproductive numbers it develops a viable counter strategy by accident

just thinking about this gets the noggin joggin. only stupid people believe nids are boring and I'm not even a nid player

>>96072410
>I do have fun, I just [make stuff up in another format]
then why are you calling fun a buzzword and being angry at people making stuff up in a way (you) are unable to have fun with?
You're either hypocritical or lying

>>96072422
>>96072412

presumably there was some advantage to the hive mind model over the individualistic model, we might look at insects with how they have a very distinct class structure with queens, workers, and warriors

>>96072417
thanks anon <3

>>96071542
>>96071569
This is really post Enlightenment thinking, that an artist must be tortured and live in a garret but generally speaking dysfunctional beatniks will call themselves artists to hide the adjustment issues so it's really more in reverse.

Mosts artists make art without considering themselves such, they are more like workers in a workshop.

Braindead conservatards reifying the connection proves that everybody in this story should die.

>>96072428
I accept your concession.

>>96072422
>the knowledge on how to adapt must be there in order to adapt this quickly, no?
natural selection does that all the time without real knowledge, just by trial and error on larger scales, all the nids have to do is somehow make their trial and error process way more rapid

>>96072437
Both hypocritical and lying it is then.

>>96072339
>backpack
What kind of backpack was he wearing?
I need to somehow transport my Imperial Guard Army without looking like I'm lifting a bunch of boxes.

>>96072434
I don't know what "conservatards" has to deal with this connection.
But I agree with everything else. Admittedly I am just surprised at seeing so many good artists have mental issues, and in worse cases the mental issues are praised.
Is this why /40kg/ is so full of schizophrenics if you count miniature painting as a form of art and that art mediums have a higher chance of attracting nutcases?

>>96072443
that's exactly the point. to have such a high turnout rate with obviously a myriad of different mutations it seems highly unlikely that enough of the right ones would make it for the hive to adapt overall. especially since we are talking about complex multicellular life and not simple organisms (but those are somewhat incorporated as well I guess)

>>96072467
People that can paint at a level that could be considered art would never stay in this shithole for too long

>>96072476
>that can paint at a level that could be considered art
Very poor choice of words as I could in theory put my un-erect cock in a Citadel Paint Pot and then wipe it on a canvas and call it art.

But really in your opinion what painting level counts as art to you? Any example can work from an anon's models in this thread to a painted miniature you found on the internet.

>>96072492
NTA but the term art has become meaningless. Art is less any actual subject like a painting or sculpture but rather the paragraphs of cope you can write to defend it as thought-provoking.

>>96072468
>to have such a high turnout rate with obviously a myriad of different mutations it seems highly unlikely that enough of the right ones would make it for the hive to adapt overall
not really, you don't understand how the process can be scaled
they don't need to make fully grown and adult things to test out adaptations, some things are simpler molecular or cellular refinements, while others could be observed and then selected at the gestational state, once you've created an organism that doesn't change significantly beyond size.

the process must have been extremely slow before they developed a form of consciousness to start selecting things artificially rather than naturally, but once that's done, they could ramp up trial and error massively without the need of a real understanding of genetics, chemistry or whatnot

>>96072422
Is it a cheap answer to claim they were biologically engineered/artificially created? I mean it's not out of the question but it does feel half assed

>>96072492
>I could in theory put my un-erect cock in a Citadel Paint Pot
that small?

>>96072454
Nah, you're just a bitch.

>>96072467
It's overstated

>>96072528
it's only unfitting and half assed if you end up connecting them to something inside the galaxy, which negates their extragalactic origins and deletes the cosmic horror aspect to make the setting look smaller, and/or if their creators are still alive and in charge, negating their own independent status and agency (:eat and improve)

otherwise the idea that they're an experiment that broke containment and spiralled out of control is fitting for both aliens and dinosaurs, narratively speaking, so fitting for nids too

the idea that they might be the result of a race reaching a biological singularity rather than a technological one is also appropriate, but risks devaluing the nids because you can be sure as hell that a hack writer would end up writing about a tyranid pov that makes them way more human due to that past, instead of keeping them looking bestial (cleverness aside) both to the people in setting and to the reader

>>96072492
>an anon's models in this thread
Haven't seen one here yet
>a painted miniature you found on the internet
Something like this maybe? I'd definitely consider this an art piece

>>96072434
>Mosts artists make art without considering themselves such, they are more like workers in a workshop.
That was then, now it's mostly not, people go into art mainly for a passion, not because it's in their economic interests, regardless of the dreams of being able to live on that which some manage to reach tooth and nail and after many compromises.

>>96072362
Eldar are an embarassment to Elves throughout fiction

>>96072173
>giant insects in the void between planets are a thing in one of the first purposeful works of fiction in the second century AD
Source? Google gives me nothing, the bullshit ai overview says you're just wrong but I don't trust AI

>>96072567
Nice. I don't think I'll ever reach that level of painting though.

>>96072583
lucian true story

>>96072225
Trans women are men, you faggot

>>96072600
>aliens fighting each other to colonise planets and stars
>space travel
>swallowed by a whale to fight fishpeople/ non-deep ones deep ones
very cool
>Herdotus is being punished for being a liar
very uncool

>>96072643
On topic of 40k, I don't see any mention of space bugs, unless the hybrids creatures in space fighting are space bugs? Wonder if he saw alien bugs fighting with melee weapons like the nids do

>>96072296
as a transwoman without a cloud of beta orbiters i cannot relate

>>96072660
please leave

>>96072152
1) They're more dinosaur than bug on average with their morphology
2) They're only boring to you because anthropocentric fiction appeals to you. They're not boring to people who are into say, nature documentaries and shit like that, or for those who genuinely love reading Monster Manual entries (ofc I mean 3.5 ones). Meanwhile I don't give a single fuck about plight of humanity in 40k and don't remotely associate myself with Imperium

>>96072675
I like nature documentaries and like dinosaurs, even got BBC's walking with dinosaurs, the original one, on VHS.
And I still find tyranids extremely boring and I don't care to learn about their intrecasies.

>>96072651
there are giant bugs in the space war, giant spiders that make webroads between the sun and moon, horse-sized ants used as steeds, elephant sized fleas

>>96072685
>intrecasies

>>96072691
English is my 2nd language, not my fault that this shit is just 3 different languages + latin in a trench coat pretending to be 1 language.
Fuck you.

>>96072685
Well you must find other types of fiction more interesting still.
I really rarely give a shit about human characters in most media and rarely care about them. When it does though, I do care quite a bit. But that is why I prefer if movies and books have bad endings, it at least can something from me, a sense of surprise maybe.
>>96072691
There is a handful. But you'd think of them as inconsequential all the same.

Wtf are you lot arguing about now? Does anyone in these threads play games, or at least partake in the hobby?

>>96072582
>nooo! you can't like space elves, the lore is bad!
Don't care. They look cool and aesthetics trump whatever dime store fiction you're mewling about. Farseers look cool, Wraithlords look cool, Banshees look cool, Striking Scorpions look cool. Deal with it.

>>96072719
Be a lot cooler if they weren't a massive joke in the lore though.

>>96072723
Only if you're bother to read that tripe

>>96072727
Ignoring it doesn't make it go away or disappear.

>>96072719
All lore is bad, fluff is ok

>>96072716
Scroll up, anchorposts for wips and models barely get any replies. This general is a containment for secondary shitposting at this point

>>96072687
>giant spiders that make webroads between the sun and moon
fuck I gotta read this now. Reminds me of the mega structure from Blame! Imagine this but alien bug cobwebs, catching the galatic detritus from the solar wind. Fleets of derelict ships trapped in the webs, whole planets having their orbits slowed or stopped

>>96072752
It was an ancient roman's understanding of the sky, don't expect much.

>>96072670
no

What happened to the old bolters? Bolt rifles look like tacticool ass

>>96072177
I tried my hand at painting genestealer cult once, I have a decent scheme but it a very time consuming army to paint and to learn, maybe next year

>Glue dirt to the base yesterday and let it dry
>Gently try to rinse off the dust from the rim and bottom of the model
>A bunch of the dirt comes loose and I have to glue more down
Maybe I should just go back to using texture pastes...

Just be glad you don't play Horus Heresy, guys.
Jesus fucking christ.

>>96072865
What happened? I thought HH was so much better

>>96072878
New edition which means its automatically mega satan

What "false fluff" is still repeatedly stated as actual fluff be it oldhammer or current-hammer fluff that grinds your gears the most?

I'll start with pic related.

>>96072898
Fantasy has its own set of chaos gods and their khorne is a distinct different khorne from 40k khorne.

>>96072878
apparently new edition rules leaked and a metric ton of stuff is getting squatted. or at least thats what ive picked up from people talking about it here

>>96072898
The Warp is only galaxy-sized

Just a quick reminder about the monthly collage.
This month's theme is elite squad. Now, elites are not really a thing anymore but you can find out which units were elites in 9th with a quick look at wahapedia :
https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k9ed/the-rules/playing-this-game/
Still, if you would submit a squad of eldar aspect warriors or some space marine unit or something that look elite and feel elite to you but were heavy support or fast attack in 9th I won't reject it. The most important thing is that it is a squad of your toughest, hardest dudes.
Voting for the next theme will run the last 7 days of the month and end the same time as the submission deadline, midnight the 31st est.
If you have any suggestions for next month's theme feel free to share it here and I'll add it to the poll.

>>96072922
Wasn't this a situation that the Warp extends as far as life does, and given the spread of orcs, means that it could be in other galaxies where an abundance of life is present?

>>96072898
>Whar orks sincerely beleive en masse becomes reality via their gestalt field thats innate to their species
>Everything the Imperium does is justified because its the only way to keep humanity alive
>Space Marines all worship the Emperor as a god
>The Ecclesiarchy has a tight knit, agreed upon set of beliefs were any small deviation is deemed heresy

>>96072878
new edition shows a few signs of it just becoming 40k: 2

>>96072933
no, the warp has been stated to encompass the whole universe, it is more active with life but it is still there even in the voids between galaxies.

>>96072904
It's not a bad headcanon because Chaos God fluff is dogshit and same goes for most of Daemons. Warp metaphysics are also dogshit.

>>96072932
Finalizing my batch of 3D printed miniatures to be printed via 3D printing service.
Love you CollageAnon.

>>96071432 (OP)
Of your fetish isnt front and center, are they really your dudes?

>>96072660
just walk outside there are billions of them and they will paint terrain for free.

>>96072949
It's a bad headcanon because its all based on lies told to newcomers. Obfuscation doesn't help anyone

>>96072819
bazedd raven guard enjoyer. are you looking forward to the space marine codex 2 for your raven guard army or is this guy a singleton?

>>96072949
t. someones mad daemons aren't just warp xenos

>>96072949
Warp metaphysics makes a lot of sense if you stick to how it works in the Realm of Chaos

>>96072719
>>96072727
>Literally to the point of 'Just don't read the lore for Eldar! Just make up your own'
Bro that's basically just saying you don't really like Eldar, which is understandable.

>>96072752
>bringing up blame
>not knights of Sidonia
>the series with giant amoeba aliens that can consume entire planets

Read Biomega too. Praise Niheiverse.

>>96072898
40k was always super stagnant at 999.m41

>>96071432 (OP)
>TQ
This franchise lives and dies on fan content.

>>96072943
Oh, are they adding in Xenos then?

>>96072898
Why do "people" still believe that the Little Sisters of Purification are a canon oldhammer thing when a quick google can show they were just an early homebrew of the concept of the female space marine?

>>96072977
I mean, the problem was never that it was stagnant there but that too much shit happened in that last year or ten of the millennium.

>>96073001
I think the actual problem was that no one was really in touch during 5th so no one realized they were redoing the time of ending.

This is why on 1d4chan (as it was) the lore sections for 6th and 7th edition present anything new with a mocking tone.

>>96072719
i miss when the aspects actually had unique helmet and armor designs and werent just guardians with different weapons. the guardian-ing of the aspect designs is one of the worst things to ever happen to eldar

>>96072412
Maybie the majority of non-synaptic units are "artificial"? Like the synaptic Tyranids are the "real" Tyranids, while the non-synaptic are bio-robots?
Personally I've never thought the tyranids evolved naturally, instead I've thought they were more designed by something. Either another species outside the galaxy, the old ones, or even the tyranids themselves.

>>96073020
its intentionally left vague, probably because GW could never come up with anything that's better than just not knowing.

How would you feel about ignoring the official weapon options on HQs and taking whatever you want? GW scarpping more and more stuff off is getting tiresome to me, I just wanna do stuff like heavy weapon chaos lord.

What is the best army if you cannot paint (I almost failed high school because of that)? I wouldn't aim for golden demon, just don't want to have grey wave army so some primer, a few contrast paints or something, but I am "no models". I have heard Adeptus Custodes and Necrons are easy, but I am not much of a fan of those two. And the patrols of armies I like aesthetically (anything chaos, aeldars, tau, sororitas, tyranids) seem extremely difficult to make look pretty.

>>96073058
or no ones read enough to figure it out so when someone does piece it together there will be a domino effect where we all have to now hate what was secretly established decades ago

Anybody here just paint models and don't play the game?

>>96073080
Yes

>>96073080
Yeah I don't have any friends and the closest LGS is like 150km away from my town. Not like I'd be able to go into it with how socially inept I am anyway.

>>96073070
build what you think looks cool

AVE DOMINUS NOX

>>96073080
I just play by myself

>>96073080
yes, 90% of posters here have always been secondaries.

>>96073138
And the remaining 10% play the game, but don't paint their models.

>>96072971
You can like an army for the general aesthetic, art, and models and not give a shit about what hack BL authors have written about them.

>>96073138
I thought people that hobby but don't play are not secondaries

>>96073138
if you own and paint models you're not a secondary, tourist

>>96073164
Secondary can be applied to any aspect, due to the accessibility of the lore hobby has been determined to be the primary criteria

>>96072960
Probably should rephrase it that i do not want orbiters it sounds annoying as hell
>>96072965
i stopped playing when 10th hits i do not care at all about rules or that anymore i just build armies that i think are fun

>>96073070
It sucks I can't have 5 regular dudes to take hits for my havoks with chaincannons.

It makes it pointless for them to get up close to use chaincannons.

>>96073121
99% of SM related deaths while boarding can be prevented by making smol corridors. SM would lose there advantage. stupid mechanicum.

>>96073080
Yeah I'm one of them.
How do you make friends at the LGS besides being nice and complimenting models?

>>96073164
I used to play a lot in earlier editions but 10th is so bad that i stopped playing and only paint now. Am I a secondary?

>>96073231
yes, but because you never actually played or painted

oh boy thread police is here

When demons get the boot I’m never looking into 40K again

>>96071448
Finishing off a couple of leapers

>>96073247
More like GW defenders. They (or he if one guy) do it for free. Just look above your post. It is the same pattern.
>someone criticizes modern Warhammer 40k stuff
>Some defender comes in accusing criticizer of being no games or no models.
Other things they do are demanding models being posted without a model posted themselves which outs them as a troll or saying that anything from the extreme to bare bones normal stuff didn't happen.

>>96073231
yes because anybody who says 10th bad is a secondary larper who hasn't actually played it.

>>96073277
none of that happened schizo

>>96073277
to be fair, its very easy to get away with saying anything new is shit.

8th edition was the worst edition ever till 9th and so on, only for 8th now to be seen as better than 7th until its inconvenient to say so

>>96073311
You do this shit almost every thread, faggot.

>>96073306
100%, a fun experiment to play is to ask why 6th iswas so bad. You won;t get nearly as many responses as asking why CURRENT EDITION is bad

>>96071448
I’m almost done painting two storm speeders. I can’t wait to finish!

>>96073327
>gets called a schizo
>immediately schizos out harder
the 4chan classic

>>96073311
GW isn't gonna give you money or free product for defending them here. I suggest you get a hobby.
>>96073317
Aye I get it, man.
And then after a few editions we say that previous edition we said was the worst edition wasn't so bad after all or was the last time GW did x that was good.

>>96073339
>And then after a few editions we say that previous edition we said was the worst edition wasn't so bad after all or was the last time GW did x that was good.
realistically the "post models" is a check in the same way captchas are, neither are fool proof and are both an inconvience

>>96073013
left looks much worse

>>96073336
I'm not even that guy but if you think it's not obvious at least a good part of it is the same person you must be mentally deficient.

>>96073360
Nigger this conversation got started by somebody asking if people paint but don't play here and then he randomly starts sperhing about shills and accusing everybody of being the same shill

>>96071624
Just buy the giant bottle of AP speedpaint medium. It comes in an 100ml for like 25$

>>96072861
Just wipe the rim with a wet paper towel you don't need to rinse the whole thing

>>96073080
>Anybody here just paint models and don't play the game?
I encourage people to do what they like. But if I just painted stuff and put it on a shelf, I would feel like I'm missing out on half of the hobby. I have never painted something without the intention to use it.

>>96073443
For me the satisfaction from painting something I like and honing my skills is reward enough, never felt a need to try the game out

>>96073248
Why?

Hell yeah, finally managed to get one of my 40k Grail miniatures for a reasonable price! Used, metal Chaos Dreadnought for $40 after shipping and tax. Twin Linked Autocannon and Scourge arm. I'll strip it and repaint it in my CSM warbands scheme and be incredibly happy. Sadly my copy of Fire Warrior for the PS2 is delayed in the post though, damn USPS.

>>96072476
Truth. All the good mini posters are long gone.

>>96073514
Samefag less doomjeet

>>96073443
the "game" is just an excuse to show off your models to other people. There's no strategy, no skill, just luck and listbuilding with overly complicated rules.

>>96071492
Love those Orks big dawg, I like the duller blue over the brighter blues

>>96073542
Use a tripcode

>>96073542
I can stomach the wolf heads even though they're pretty bad too but those panther/cat ones in the back just look fucking awful

>>96073542
https://www.lurkmore.com/view/Tripcode

>>96073538
>no skill

>>96073408
I think the objective he has is to find out what the mediums are made up to hopefully be able to recreate them on the cheap.
He might be the anon from the battle bible project trying to make ink washes for a supposed hobby section.
I googled what speedpaint medium is made of and didn’t get a proper answer so I doubt anyone can at this point. That anon wants to make washes that stain flat surfaces less like when speedpaint medium gets mixed with armypainter washes. I’ve seen him in other threads.

>>96073538
>the "game" is just an excuse to show off your models to other people. There's no strategy, no skill, just luck and listbuilding with overly complicated rules.
You sound awful mad at the game of plastics man-dollies, anon. Would you like to talk about it?

>>96073013
The left helmet is an option for the exarch

>>96073552
They look cool

>>96071492
Wait you already finished your killrig? Didn't you start it like 3 days ago wth bro chill

>>96073538
>no strategy
>no skill
>just luck
curiously, every time I have heard these exact words used about 40k it turns out they just fucking suck or think they can play meme lists and win
there is a game to play, if you understand how the game is played you will pick units to play the game
if you don't understand how the game is played you will play "lmao all terminators!!!!" and then cry because you die before getting into charge range and stormbolters don't do shit to MEQ

>>96073538
>No skill
there's a guy that constantly complains about being tabled because he fails to hide his models out of LoS properly
I think he alone proves there is some kind of skill

>>96071492
based and rimmed me lemons. once everything is dries its off to varnish and call done.

>>96073662
>based and rimmed me lemons.
Say that out loud

>>96073688
dude, if you don't love rimming get out of this hobby
the missus and me rim every time it's hobby time

>>96073688
what? they cant be finished if they dont get rimmed.
you do rim your models right anon?

>>96073701
>>96073702
He's probably doesn't cleaning his butthole propperly so thinks rimming is dirty

>>96072347
>Poison weapons not especially deadly
>Armor made of paper
>Wyches not actually dangerous in battle
>Grotesques clumsy and fall apart easily
>Unable to trade lives efficiently or engage anything but soft targets
Ouch, I thought the guardsman's primer was supposed to be funny exaggerations. In 10e all of those things are actually true of Dark Eldar

>>96073688
Rimming is based. Also painting base rims is fun

>>96071481
familiarize yourself with the vehicle rules, they aren't "tough single model" like 10th

>>96073408
I know about speedpaint. And I'll admit it is tempting, but instead I'd rather find out what speedpaint medium and by proxy contrast medium, xpress medium, and the new AK "quick gen" medium's primary ingredients are so I can make the ideal DIY washes at home.
But then again the examples of ink drops and showing their effect were pretty close to what I am looking for so maybe I added too many ink drops and need to figure out what the maximum number of ink drops I can add to the mix is.
Luckily I have a lot of dropper bottles I bought in bulk for the job.

>>96071492
Nice. I wish I had more old orks. All i have is buckets of the starter set boys and gretchin and a few gorkamorka boys

>>96072078
>>96072390
Infernus marines have 10x pyreblasters

>>96072861
thin your pva glue and spread it over the dirt/sand to help seal it

>>96073732
I mean, Dark Eldar have what is probably the single most killy unit in the game to the point where even some of the bulkiest models fold in a single phase

>>96073860
What unit? Incubi?

>>96073868
Yeah, Archon led Incubi with a paintoken in SSA kill pretty much anything in the game, even Knights.

It's paintin time


>>96073855
This is how you do it

>>96073826
I'd look into drying retarder. It'll allow your paint to move across surfaces for longer without skinning. Contrast medium is essentially lahmian with a little more flow improved and a bit more drying retarder. I might try out Luke's old recipe and then use that as a starting point to get something closer to contrast medium

>>96073881
>drying retarder
Thanks I'll note it.
>Luke's old recipe
can I get a link please?
I only know of Les' wash recipe.

>>96073855
The real ones know to prewet their dirt with thinned iso and then dripping thinned pva over the top

>>96073889
Fug sorry I thought I pasted it lmao. Luke has a bunch of recipes worth looking at in his older vids
https://youtu.be/ad7bNDfS3fI?si=0ZWL_KKXakCxKOMm

>>96073855
NTA but I did this and it didnt fucking help, the mix was still lifting off the bases in some places on some minis
I superglued those parts but when I went back to add some variety to those bases with washes, the glue started dissolving
Maybe I have shitty pva but fuck it, I aint basing with pva + sand/pebbles ever again, texture paste and super glue all day every day

>>96073080
My local store community all want to play league games, so I joined the last seasonal one and didn't enjoy it too much. So now I just paint and photograph stuff.

>>96073826
>local man attempts to reinvent wheel and burns out on hobby
contrast medium is distilled water, liquitex matte medium, liquitex flow aid, and maybe an acyrlic retarder
I actually use the medium/flow improver in my airbrush mix because I get better coverage

Inner circle companion are the ultimate DEI hires. They get the most prestigious role as the chapter just for being fallen instead of their combat skill or chapter veterancy. They can be indian coder level incompetent and still become lion's body guard.

>>96073919
no one cares about the Dark Angels gay boy berzerkers or their smegma crazies

>>96073872
Archon + Incubi + Raider is 330 points. More if you need the Overwatch ignore enhancement (you do).
They trade DOWN into big knights now.

I love GSC so much brothers I wish it got more love

>>96073905
Thanks anon!
I'll see if this gets desired effects with the failed(?) batch I have so far.
>>96073916
>local man attempts to reinvent wheel and burns out on hobby
More like discover the secrets of the wheel and feels reinvigorated about the hobby.
Especially after seeing your post about what contrast medium basically is.
Thank you anon.
Where did you learn of this? A Youtube video I may have missed? Would love to see it if so.
I'm using ultra matte instead of matte medium but I don't think it will result in much difference.

>>96073966
I drink my paints

>>96072932
>elite squad
>squad
aww man does that mean my red gobbo doesn't qualify?

>>96073980
Paint few gobbo bodyguard for him?

>>96072932
Will it count if I painted one of the three guys like 2 months ago?

>>96072932
>elite squad
aw yeah, now it's my time to shine since I only ever paint Kill Teams

>>96074015
I mean the idea is to paint something new but I doubt he'd reject them

>>96073910
I use elmer's glueall, it's the only stuff they had at Michaels that ISN'T the kid-safe washable school glue.
I spread some unthinned glue around with old brush, and kinda dip the base in a tupperware of sand, carefully shaking the box underneath the mini to spread around. Wipe away any glue sand that got somewhere you don't want, and let it dry for an hour or 2. Go over again with thinned glue, this time let it dry overnight.
After that paint away

how long do they keep selling these? I want this box

>>96074043
until they sell out

>>96074043
it's already over lil bro

>>96071432 (OP)
>TQ
There was a chart that some one posted, it was like a political compass but it two axis related to 40k fandom I just remember there were two extremes on it, the retarded grim dark fan who only makes content that's as grim and as dark and as dumb as possible.
There was also the Freeform fan who loves the mutability of the setting, so much so that they didn't even know what a space marine was.
I kinda wish it was posted again since it really did a good job at shoeboxing different mild fans

Please recommend me decent Raven Guard novels. I like their theme and paint scheme but beside their codexes and HH books the only books I know focused on them are War Zone: Damocles campaign books that present them as absolute jobbers.

>>96074043
they're selling fast

>>96074042
>kid-safe washable school glue
hmm, maybe that was the reason this worked like shit for me
I grabbed a random generic bottle of pva glue I found in a stationery store but the label didn't mention anything about being kid safe or washable or anything like that

I'm almost done with the new dawn of fire novel, would you all like a summary?

>>96073954
>>96073872
archon + incubi with all the buffs you can load on them do 17 damage to a big knight
a primaris crusader squad and helbrecht all buffed will do 17 for around the same points and they don't need to exit a vehicle to do it, if you bump up the points you can throw in a castellan for free lethals and not have to use a strat
helbrecht + castellan + 10 sword brethren can delete any unit in the game currently

>>96074087
>>96074059
>>96074050

>>96074124
yeah sure

>>96074124
no thanks, we're good

>>96074137
>17 damage
It averages 28 damage before the 6+ FNP

>>96074122
If your pva glue doesn't come in gallons and isn't made to stick pieces of wood together then you are overpaying for bad pva

>>96074063
Found it, It may be directed towards types of /tg/ posters, but I think it applies to fan content as well.

>>96074043
Is there any chance that they'll have that terrain for sale seperately at a later date, or am I going to be forced to spend stupid ebay money if I want it?

>>96074176
yeah, it's a lot of damage, but an ultra killy unit in an army which struggles to play the game doesn't mean much
I like to use hellblasters as an example of a unit which is taken because it means "FUCK YOU" to one thing in particular and maybe whatever kills it right after
was it worth the 290 points (because you attach a lt) to kill one target? depends on the target, because realistically after you pull this prank once they get murked, shooting on death of course so you just lost 15% of your list and 11OC
deathstar units aren't actually in a great spot right now unless you can get two activations out of them guaranteed

>>96074225
SSA is an odd detachment because you have to play extremely smart and do things like embark on raiders through walls and use reactive moves/wraithlike retreat.
I actually think Drukhari does have a lot of stuff going for it - solid scoring units with Mandrakes/Venom Kabalites, Court is an insane unit, move shoot move scourges - powerful death stars -
the worst part is just how difficult it is to get ahold of things

Had a game with Twists on today, we got the 3 dice for charging and a 18" charge range. It cost me the game but shit was fun. There were two other tables besides us and they all chickened out from using them.

>>96074201
This is about lorefags not /40kg/ posters

>>96074255
yeah its poorly named.

>>96074248
i hate twists just because of Night Fighting

>>96074201
>Deus Volt!

okay I kek'd

>>96074201
the abnett verse isn't a thing

These look fucking sick I must say.

>>96074332
I like the fists and helmets

>>96074332
Same
I'll be honest, I was never a fan of space muhreens but with this something clicked and I've unironically preordered the new set

>>96074201
Chuckled

>>96074201
Brb gonna make one of these that is actually accurate to the general

>>96074242
Isn't the current dark eldar meta to use reaper's wager not SSA? Since it just gives you rerolls.
Then take 1 maybe 2 troupe units and the rest dark eldar, using a CP to flip the wager back when you need it

>>96074359
the saturnine box is so good. Its so fucking tempting....

>>96074376
You stare at that turret and you tell me you want that

>>96074327
>writer infamous for using 40k to tell his shitty sci-fi stories
>uses the same characters in multiple books like they all know each other
>lore inconsistent with the reality of the Imperium
the man wishes he was writing for Marvel or Star Wars
ironically, in a bizarre twist of fate Matt Ward is actually a pretty good writer in comparison, Abnett wrote the god awful "story" for Darktide, but Matt Ward wrote all the dialogue and voice lines, which people remember way better than the bizarre story that the game has

>>96074387
name one thing wrong with it

>>96074387
you just need a lil kitbashing magic to turn it into a sick mech

>>96074332
I didn't like them initially but I will admit they've grown on me a little.

>>96074201
where are the fairly "normal" people

>>96074369
It's should just be the words
>everyone I don't like is the same person
In every single corner

>>96074400
the center, just like real life

>>96074394
darktide has a better story than vermitnide

>>96072078
Kataphron destroyers can get 6, increased to 18" with the sanctified ordinance enhancement in the holoscreed detachment. Destroyers also hit on 5+ with an overwatch strategem

Do you guys play games smaller than 1000pts?

>>96074394
matt ward wrote all the nonexistent story points and worldbuilding for darktide though?

>>96074431
only for boarding actions

>>96074332
I wonder how these would be as centurion proxies

>>96074373
yes

>>96074427
>escape from prison
>literal who
>we don't trust you
>still don't trust you
>*BLAM* we trust that guy less
pure cinema
>>96074433
he was hired later, any of the newer content is Ward and that's all mission dialogue/banter

>>96074373
Reapers is better but SSA is more fun.

>>96074431
aaaayoooo mi pequena chica,

>>96074448
>he was hired later, any of the newer content is Ward and that's all mission dialogue/banter
No he wasn't lmao, on launch they explained that matt ward was the worldbuilding and baseline story writer when people complained about how barebones the story was despite having these big names working on it

>>96074443
good god centurions are so bad. why aren't they in legends??

>so the novel is about the pariah nexus,
>it takes place after gathering storm but guilliman hasn't begun to take his armor off
>guillimans eldar looks into the future and tells guilliman its a terrible idea to go in the Pariah Nexus and it is through this meeting guilliman learns about the SK
>this eldar makes a webway gate on the ship as a contingency
>we are told the mechanicus has largely hidden the threat of the necrons from the imperium
>the central idea is that the nexus isn't uniform and as you get closer to the center the stronger it gets
>so the idea is to get Cawl on a control world to deactivate it and then allow the Imperium to have a foothold in the sector
>this is done via having guilliman be bait and attacking a seemingly important necron world
>cawl amade these orbs that make canoptek stuff ignore you, but they eventually fail, causing tension while cawl hacks the stuff
>we get to see greysheilds become part of the white consuls, we are actively told that as these chapters get established they should start wearing mixed armor marks.
>while this is happening, guillimans fleet is acting as a diversion untill the stilling stops, which serves as their signal to retreat
>a named servent of the silent king offers guilliman a chance to surrender which he doesnt
>the necrons use the pylons to pop void sheilds in a way that destroys ships
>cawl stops the stilling
>guillimans fleet begins to retreat, the necrons have hacked imperial systems and begin a boarding action
>guilliman battles a necron lord and his sword seemingly stops them from regenerating.
>then guilliman meets up with the eldar and the eldar tells him he should've listened, but he has a contingency plan
>they go through the webway gate but the necrons redirect it so guilliman is face to face with the silent king
>the eldar does some magic they escape, no fight
>cawl escapes via a pharos teleporter
>cawl explains itll be years to master the pylons
kais is a fag btw

>>96074433
it was dan abnett. you forgot.

https://www.playdarktide.com/news/writer-reveal-dan-abnett

>>96074431
Im better off just playing warcry at that point

>>96074457
https://www.playdarktide.com/news/writer-reveal-dan-abnett

>>96074467
I mean killteam, confused the two.

>>96074373
Reapers is more consistent because SSA falls apart the second your T6 and T8 vehicles get nuked which is extremely easy to do. Reapers also has access to lethal hits, advance and charge, and turning off overwatch and none of those are transport dependent. SSA has the potential for one big "go turn" more than reapers, but as it turns out DE don't actually do enough damage to kill enough not to just get wiped out on the back swing after that go turn. Reapers with a more skirmish and methodical game of scalpels works a bit better and Harlequins with devastating wounds help the army a lot against certain tough targets the rest of the army struggles against.

>>96074431
boarding actions is 500pts

>>96074470
a completely different game tho, the similarity to bighammer is just barely there

>>96074443
Eh I'd rather get actual Centurions

Working on a GSC army, going for a complete brood brothers theme (not just the IG units, everything). Basically I'm going to have a neophyte squad which are cadian shocktroops with swapped weapons and proxies for the other weapons. I'm struggling finding a proper alternative for the mining laser, I was thinking a modified lascannon, but I'm not sure where to get one that looks "portable" by a guardsman. Any anon have a good idea?

>>96074507
no accounting for your absolute dogshit tastes

>>96074462
so, another nothingburger?

>>96074443
I highly doubt centurions will even be in the next codex, Paul. Better start coming to terms with that now.

>>96074462
Dios mio, mucho texto autismo

>>96074201
the most kind of posts i've seen in 40kg is from the grimderp purist

>>96074508
why not attach the neophyte mining laser to the cadian bodies? Are the two armed shoulders too thick for the regular cadian torsos?

>>96074462
>they go through the webway gate but the necrons redirect it so guilliman is face to face with the silent king
>the eldar does some magic they escape, no fight
I sleep

>>96074431
I feel like I can't bring an effective list at 1k, playing any less would only happen to accommodate a new player

>>96074431
Only as part of something like an escalation league at the LGS

>>96072244
Thanks for saving my autism. I don't know why that one dude got his panties in a bunch over it, his general attitude reminds me of someone who reacted similarly to it when I first posted it, even though it is plain to see that of course it's fan canon. We've not had a chart like this since 4th edition, which already contradicted the previous one in 3rd, and lots of content has come out since which further contradicts both. I thought it would be amusing to attempt yet another, exhaustively so, even pulling in stuff from the defunct card game which were hard to reconcile with official GW designs.

>>96074531
Depends who you care about, Guilliman and the Imperium do lose here, it is genuinely a nice change of pace

What are the best formats to play?

>>96074597
the imperium has basically lost every conflict since Abbadon blew up the eye of terror
Even things like the Imperium vs Morty ends with the Emperor having to do literal divine intervention to yoink Gman back.

>>96074605
yeah but that doesnt stop retards from pretending the imperium is always winning

>>96074601
the ones that you and your friends have the most fun playing

>>96074534
Go back to your tiktoks you braindead adhd zombie

>>96074201
All of these are me. Somehow.

>>96074652
Mostly the chud

>>96074684
I was thinking more the world builder but I’ll adjust myself to fit the chud if it gives you an enemy to fight. After all someone has to play the bad guys for the good guy players.

>>96074572
Yeah, the neophyte carrying the laser is actually an acolyte with a wider torso, so the shoulders don't fit and the arms look off.

>can buy a combat patrol for 120-140 bucks on ebay/third party sites
>hero/leader characters can cost from 35 bucks for a lord of virulence to a daemon primarch for 185 bucks though
Why the fuck are single character models so expensive. Even the small ones are pushing it.

>>96071925
Bitch got those crazy eyes. Is that a kitbashed medusa? Ur-ghuls are only like 10 bucks.

>>96073123
This.

>>96071925
you've got too much white, you obviously have the brush control (demonstrated by the tiny pupils), so just go back and outline her eyes and increase the size of the pupils

>>96074699
AKSHUALLY they're still neophytes as they're 3rd gen hybrids, acolytes are gen 1 & 2. Maybe you can use Cadian Heavy Weapon Squad's Lascannons but they're on 50mm and even if you use only one guy I'm not sure if it'd fit on a 32mm base. Best of luck Broodbro, make us proud.

>>96071574
Be one of the very smart ebay sellers who overprice space marine models from the starter set like I wanna pay 30 bucks for 5 easy build intercessors when I can get the real thing for the same price.

>looking at kroot hunter party boxes
>some guy is trying to sell for 160 bucks, but it's missing 10 carnivores and the codex
>you can just get the box, complete, for 185 bucks
Why are people just
Like this

>>96074601
1500pts and under if you want more of a traditional 40k game, Boarding Actions & Kill Team if you want something a bit less archaic.

>>96074651
ay ay ay el anonimo neurotypicale es muy feo y orgasmo!

>>96074242
SSA Drukhari is unironically the hardest to play army in the game. That's why is always has like a 30% winrate even when it has people topping GTs with it. You have to play that game perfectly and make zero mistakes.

Oof, seeing Horus Heresy get the "simplified not simple" treatment just brings back all the wounds of the 10e transition all over again. I hope GW reverses course on this direction because right now it looks like no one is really happy with the current/upcoming edition of ANY of their games.

>>96074847
GW won't care unless the money dries up

>>96074847
GW doesn't care until sales start to drop, which is why discount start collecting boxes from 10 years ago for age of smegma were so CHEAP compared to the massively overpriced plastic luxury products you take out a loan for now. I was at the Microcenter yesterday getting a part for computer that ultimately ended up worthless and saw that their entire Hobby section is just 3d printers and filament for 3d printers now. And legos. Why stock warhammer stuff when people can just print it?

Also legos are similarly overpriced, no clue how they cultivated a 40-something manchild Darth Vader lego bust fanclub. Blows my mind.

>>96074847
what happened to HH in the new edition?

>>96074879
You mean the same start collecting a 40K had?

>>96074887
They killed off half the units that didn't have models and basically fucked around with a lot of unit options, people who spent time and effort converting up stuff now have illegal loadouts and are quite rightly pissed off.

>>96074847
>inb4 the heresy sells like gangbusters and we are once again BTFO'd

>>96073080
It is possible to play a game against yourself

>>96074914
I thought 40k was the dumb downed game. Why are they doing that to HH too?

>>96074989
to appeal to a broader audience most likely

>>96074989
Because the 10th launch was "successful". They sold a lot of starter sets which makes it look like lots of people were joining the hobby. In reality it was because the starters contained two things people had been wanting refreshed for a long time, tyranids and terminators and were great buys in multiples for either side.

>>96075026
>we're pretending that 10ths sucesss is all an illusion

>>96074782
People mistake miniature collecting for tcg collecting.

>>96075079
No it absolutely was fairly successful on its own merits. But starter set sales were definitely bolstered a lot by having two forces that people actually wanted in the set. And starter set sales is also what you'd base your sales figures on for new growth.

>>96075090
I’m surprised that warhammer stores and lgs aren’t getting the Pokémon card scalper treatment. Is it inevitable that it will happen?

>>96074730
I feel like it’s the production cost of making molds for singular characters as opposed to making molds for like, ten dudes. That or think of it as your lack of kit bashing tax.

>>96075095
>that one anon who bought 11 starter boxes last week

Any alternatives to the new TSon robots? I don't really like their look

>>96075107
I feel like it's unchecked greed because they know people will need less of the characters so they charge more

>>96075114
Ushabti with some conversion work could be nice.

>>96075105
It happened a couple times but they did reprint runs. Things like the indomitus box sold out instantly and gw had to scramble to reprint them while 3rd party prices skyrocketed. Cursed city as well.

>>96075115
I think dismissing how production can affect prices is a bit childish. Shit man, you could always just get a 3D printed model for literal pennies if the cost is too much for you.

>>96075147
Damn, Indomitus was great

>>96075090
It's still bind mlowing that people think a box that's missing 25% of the content and used is worth 90% msrp
>oop! rare!
bro the whole point is that it's a value box.

>>96075150
I'm not saying it doesn't cost anything to make the sprues and upkeep their equipment but at the same time I think they charage a premium on character models because they can.

>>96075107
>le kitbashing tax
I don't want to kitbash, I want the actual model. If I was going to kitbash it would be something cool, like a Lord of Entropy for Death Guard. But since GW removed generic chaos lords you can't proxy such things easily anymore.

>>96075105
From my understanding, the acceptance of proxies and “making your own dudes” even in competitive will keep most scalpers out.

>>96075150
>just start a whole new hobby to come roundabout back to what you should have been able to do for 20 bucks
Naw I'm good, 3dpg shill.

>>96075105
didn't they just cancel/delay a preorder thing because of bots and scalpers?

>>96075147
lord of contagion and the chosen of mortarion are pretty gay too since GW won't reprint dark imperium.

>>96075147
I think the high floor of prices for the larger box sets + it doesn't have the raw numbers of players that pokemon has makes it less appealing to scalpers. There are also at least some controls in place to try and mitigate it, pokemon scalpers just wait at a vending machine for the guy to refill it and then clear it out.

>>96075177
It's a weird sprue

>>96075177
Damn bro, it's like you should have bought Dark Imperium or something

>>96075128
Man Ushabti are such cool models, one of the main reasons I jumped into TKs when TOW released.

>>96075177
At one point know no fear sets were like 50$ on third party sites. Really have no excuse unless you started after late 9th

a gorillion hours in paint

>>96075368
>"BL is slop" still read most of HH
That's me! Except I read all of the HH

>>96075386
BL is slop is just us trying to abide by board culture

>>96075368
This is pretty fucking accurate and it actually makes me kinda sad

>>96075368
Kek

>>96075368
high quality post

>>96075368
This will be reposted on reddit and that makes me sad

>>96075368
Now we need someone to align our notable posters along this graph

>>96075434
Yeah and they'll edit out the /40kg/ and fa/tg/uy part and claim it's OC

>>96075434
Why would they care?

>>96075368
finally some good fucking food

>>96075434
>>96075448
nobody who doesn't come to 40kg would know anything about the thread schizo

>>96075446
please no, it will just give the worst spergs attention

>>96075368
Pretty accurate.

>>96075490
Calm down decaltranny

>>96075448
They would wonder what 40 kilograms has to do with warhammer

>>96075446
Be my guest. I'd do it myself but I'm tired after slaving away in paint for so long. Also I have shit memory and I'm not here enough to remember each individual poster.

>>96075368
Model Poster should include "fridged"

>>96075573
It does say fridge tho

>>96074770
>AKSHUALLY they're still neophytes as they're 3rd gen hybrids
True, but they're bigger, so their weapons don't fit.

But yea, maybe the heavy weapon squad. Chop off parts of the lascannon, add it onto the missile launcher, figure out a decent way to represent a power source, shorten it to make it look more portable...

>>96075573
>>96075583
Oh, never mind I'm just illiterate it turns out.

>>96075588
Maybe get some plasticard tubes and make a smaller lascannon barrel as the mining laser is a bit less powerful.

>>96075368
absolute based and correct

>>96075368
yup.

>>96075446
It's kind of weird that I can think of many recognizable individual posters on this thread, despite none of them avatarfagging.
I also wish that Dark Eldar and Fart Smeldar are the same guy and it's all just an excuse to post DE art and dunks.

>>96075687
The refresh ritualposter began like 5 months before the fart smelldar one

>>96075368
Where does Eldar porn posting fall on the graph?

Thoughts on using the new Saturnine Termis for TSon robots?

>>96075721
it was a few weeks at most. I've also got a feeling fart smelldar dunk anon is the same guy who talks about killa kans with baggy jeans and cool sneakers. same humor.

>>96075734
way too big
no tsons theming at all

>>96075734
I don't play TSons so no thoughts about it.

>>96075734
>>96075734
that is like using your German Shepard and saying its a grandma's tiny yappy piece of shit dog

>>96075784
what you got against grandma's tiny yappy piece of shit dog

>>96075733
Straight in the middle

>>96075735
>Same humour
you mean the lack of any?

>>96075792
she used to treat it better than me, including smothering it in kisses while she put out smokes on my skin

>>96075813
god damn!

>>96075721
Five months is exaggerating, but yes I'm aware that they are most likely not the same.

>>96075734
Too big and chunky, and also very different. I feel like there's probably a decent kitbash opportunity with AoS, but I'm not quite sure what would fit.

>>96075826
>two arms on the same side holding one sword
wat da fug

>>96075833
The grip should really have a backward curve for the lower set of arms to hold.

>>96075826
Five months is not exaggerating. He started in february
>t.anon who hates all ritualposters

>>96075368
Model poster is literally me.

>>96075446
Who would they be and why. If you’re going through with this have a year version as notable posters cycle in and out.

>>96075890
No it's not, you don't own any models. guess which one I am

Is that supposed to be silver on the banner of his power fist?
also GW needs to do more ornate powerfists. This one is cool with the cavalier on it.

>>96075974
Well played tourist troll. Is your next line saying this didn’t happen? >:)

>>96076030
get decal-ed loser

>>96076102
“This didn’t happen”
Once again well played.
I’m not him and still bewildered that I managed to say an exact quote of his.

>>96076102
kek based

>>96076152
Wait shit I see it now.
I’m tired. That’s my defense.

New thread? It is page eight now.

>>96076227
Sure, go ahead and make one. Just check the catalog before you post it to make sure someone else didn't beat you to the punch so we don't end up with two generals.

Finally did the camo+ a little more on the Stormsurge Rex.
Once that glue dries I'll go over it with Earthshade then paint it to fit the rest of the ground.
Then metallics.

>>96076311
>micro machines camo
hell yeah

>>96074462
What a waste of a novel, especially since it techincally does result in a imperial victory, just not a fucking curbstomp where Guilliman arrives and destroys the whole pariah nexus region in one move. He came in, learned of how big the threat was, and decided that containment was the better part of Valour and ordered all imperial forces to not attack the sector, but focus on containment so it cannot explode past what its original size is currently and not add any more pylon planets to the mix with more then a couple sectors worth of ships, troops, and special forces. All the while Guilliman leaves for Raukos and Ultramar, BECAUSE THE WHOLE FUCKING SERIES WAS A PREQUEL TO THE DARK IMPERIUM TRILOGY!!! THAT'S RIGHT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ALREADY HAPPENED IN THE PAST AND NOTHING MATTERED IN SPITE OF THAT FACT!!!!

Gow, how the fuck could you have fallen so far in 8 years Haley? What happened to make you fall from writing Dante, to writing this piece of crap?

>>96076311
>>96076334
It certainly looks similar, that's a nice little blast from the past. I'm pretty sure I still have a bunch in a box somewhere.

New
>>96076350
>>96076350
>>96076350

>>96076334
What can I say its a good design to draw from.

The camo is a lot more ass to paint than online turtorials look. Doesn't help that it's a FDM print so the splinters don't look as clean. It'd come out even better if I could've used resin.

>>96076311
>making the stormsurge look good
Nice

>>96075735
>everyone I don't like is the same person
Come on bro

>>96076680
Who else would they be?

>>96071432 (OP)
anyone has a good resource for free 3d print minis?

>>96076773
Ask 3dpg

>>96077037
found it on rutracker thanks

How long does it typically take to play a game?

>>96071492
Scratchbuilt Bigtrakks made out of plastic card, based on the Epic Lungbursta tank design.