Thread 96071647

Telegraphing your attack -Edition

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>96054450

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
Warscroll Maker: https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/
List Builder: https://www.newrecruit.eu/
Army Reminders: https://aosbattleorders.co.uk/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

>Thread Question
What 1e webstore microfaction would you have turned into a full faction, given the chance

4e killed AoS it's a dead irrelevant game now

>TQ
You know what? Fuck it. Firebellies. I wonder where'd they go from literally 1 model

>>96071647 (OP)
>>Thread Question
>What 1e webstore microfaction would you have turned into a full faction, given the chance
corsairs: elf pirates, sea monsters and stuff

>>96071656
I was thinking the same thing, really cool model.
There's a tw:wh mod that makes gnoblars their own faction, one of which is all about fire worship, with gnoblars carrying gunpowder barrels to go full kamikaze.
Would also contrast nicely with the ice theme of the beastclaw.

>>96071647 (OP)
Before battletomes it made sense to categorise things by keywords and I'd prefer they nested that in the current categorisation tbhon.
It didn't mean keyword == army because allegiances were all GA at the time anyway.
Spiderfang should've gotten more love though, but now they'll probably just be Moonclan

>>96071739
spiderfags don't deserve shit, the continued existence of spidergoblin filth is what's stopping us from having spider khainites

>>96071656
Honestly I probably would have just mashed Firebellies and FyreSlayers, give them the salamanders too. Just a whole lot of fyreniggaz, let them ally in flamers while we're at it.

>>96071766
flamers are too chaos coded

>>96071775
Ogors realy don't care

>>96071647 (OP)
>TQ
My beloved savages... I miss them so much...
Them and Order of Azyr i believe were the factions with the utmost potential in AoS

>>96071647 (OP)
TQ
>they had a book
>they had a strong theme
>they could be the "daemonic" army of skaven
>obliterated, forgotten and replaced in the focus by Skryre/Moulder
fuck gw, man.

>>96071815
What else would order of azyr even have, other than the half a dozen witch hunter models and their helmper dogs+serfs they already got?

>>96071824
Should have bought the book. You were going to be the posterboy of Skaven

>>96071824
>Squat Plaguepriest
>Squat Censer Bearers
>Keep dated Plaguemonks
>Keep obviously skyre and not Pestilens plague klaw kit instead of refreshing it
It hurts but the warband shows promise

>>96071810
fyreslayers do

cities has actually 2 ways of expanding their army roster. Outside of the different races having specialized units, you could also add units qith different tech levels as well. Or combine both. There are evlen sniper corps in fastwater after all.

>>96071824
>Moulder
Can't even begrudge that since I really like the new moulder models.

>>96071867
neither of those ways will be pursued, you'll get more of the dawnbringer humans, and at best new flagellants and the order of azyr as a subfaction.

>>96071866
Not anymore

>>96071889
retconned, they don't do that anymore

>>96071761
I just want centaur girls instead of doomfire warlocks.

>>96071761
>drider blood stalkers
God I wish I hadn't built my spearhead now that goes fucking CRAZY and snake tails are fucking annoying

>>96071904
you'll get an updated doomfire warlocks unit on foot and you'll buy them

>>96071910
No, I buy only snakes and value boxes. And I already have 20 warlocks on sprues, because they throw them into every fucking value box.

>>96071898
Just because they haven't done it on screen recently doesn't change what their ancestors did

>>96071904
GW would never be based enough to go full bore into the monster girl faction

>>96071921
Well, there isn't that many monster girls you can do. You already have snakes, harpy, anon >>96071761 has amazing spider girls, but beside that... maybe minotaurs, like something from lumineth, or ogroid in SoD? Not many other monster girls that would make nice units.

>>96071761
>light elves have the tyrionic normal elves with a phoenix element and the 4 teclian temples themed around animals: mountain cow, wind fox, water horse, ???

>shadow elves have the malerian normal elves with a draconic element and the 4 religious cults themed around animals: gorgon, crow, arachnids, manticore

does this make sense to anyone else?

>>96071946
Mermaids in IDK
Any kind of scaly girl in Seraphon or Chaos.
Skaven could have non-breeder females (warpstone infertility or whatever)
Our lack of a desert faction robs us of cat and jackal girls.
BoC squatting denies us gor does, holstaurs, and werewolves

>>96071952
>morathi: snake
>morai heg: crow
>ereth kial: spider
>trvkhaine: panther

>>96071952
>>96072005
The lumineth temples have a clear and concise format of one centerpiece, one character and one unit each.
The khainites cannot be parallels with a similar variety because their already existing units break that format to begin with.

Every time I am tempted to pick up something from 40k or TOW I am reminded just how dogshit most of those models are compared to the AoS ones
I don't even know how to describe it or what it's caused by, but I feel like the overall aesthetic is so much more detailed while also being "grounded" (with some exceptions); for some armies in particular, I've never even looked at 3rd party stuff because they're already pretty much flawless (Nighthaunt my beloved)
I am also drunk to be fair, so that may slightly cloud my judgement
tldr: i wuv you /aosgee/

>>96072215
I can give you a reason:
Warhammer fantasy was bogged down by the need to build armies starting from its most basic elements and simplest and least interesting troops, as well as the restrictions necessary to rank the models.
Meanwhile 40k was limited by the imposition of the possibility to build the models with multiple types of weapons and gears, limiting what you can do with them in order to make everything compatible.

AoS is the first game GW did from the ground up where these limitations aren't really in place anywhere near as much as with fantasy and 40k, so the miniatures feel complete designs, rather than generic proxies or boring kitbashes.

>>96071761
AoS isn't d&d

>>96072513
its pretty dandy though. Have you seen the idk guys coat?

>>96071826
>Unit of angry zealot mob of sigmar driven crazy by faith
>Unit of fanatics of thunder
>Unit of crusader heavy armored fighters
>Unit of warchanters that can channel a piece of Stormcasts power
>Unit of battle monks of the wheel
The ideas for a zealot human army are there they just need to put actual effort into make a real human supremacy army without mixing races and with big faith for Sigmar

>>96072599
I still think the idea of a unit made of crazy wannabe-stormcasts zealots that are equipped with crappy handmade gear in imitation of the sigmarines, and that wish to die heroic deaths specifically to get noticed by sigmar and picked up to be reforged, would be the coolest and funniest shit ever.

>>96072746
I swear there was a version of this with a fake stormcast mask on the pamphlet

>>96072746
>wish to die heroic deaths specifically to get noticed by sigmar and picked up to be reforges
Great idea, stealing it for my CoS

>>96072599
too grimdark for aos.

>>96071647 (OP)
>TQ
Oh that’s a new one.
Legions of nagash should have stayed as a mainline army.

>>96071647 (OP)
Why does most AoS art look half finished?

>>96072781
This isn’t tow, we’re not the noble bright setting anymore

>>96072781
The human faction is lead by multiple named black women. How much more grim dark can you get?

>>96073004
never has been.

>>96071656
Airbellies, Earthbellies and Waterbellies

>>96073022
AoS launched with
>I was reforged... Now I glow with a holy shimmer
>Literally redeeming the lost soul of a chaos lord
There was always a suspicion of what reforging meant and that one could lose itself but that was background fluff compared to the forefront. Now we have Yndrasta who ironically encourages her allies despite being a monster and Vandus being little more than a weapon when he isn't locked up out of sight.
On a broader scale, Nagash was revived with the hopes of an alliance and it wasn't a reach considering Mannfred is presented in the same way.
Chaos was being pushed back and civilisation founded. The gods were rescued and recruited. It was wholly optimistic.

>>96072265
Those are reasonable explanations, and the large scale of WFB (as well as TOW) doesn't really help in making each model feel "important" (despite their price certainly being quite significant for 5 saddled retards)
I do feel like 40k has relied on upgrade bits and modular packages a bit too much and I'm admittedly not super familiar with 30k, but looking at the shop for a faction like Alpha Legion looks pretty grim as well (25 bucks for a pair of Rhino doors is just funny); it's a shame because the actually unique minis like Exodus look phenomenal
I guess I'm a sucker for detailing and dynamic poses, and I'm sure Chorfs will be fucking excellent in those regards once (if) they come out

>>96071761
they're going to do scorpion girls not spiders.

>>96073470
scorpions are khornes thing

>>96073475
They're also khaine's thing and morathi and the snake girls all have scorpion stingers, and so do manticores, khaine's favoured beast.

>>96072215
If I had my way CoS would be a little more gothic like the sisters line and stormcast more like the black templar line.

>>96073489
>manticores, khaine's favoured beast.
Is that actually a thing? Its news to me.
>>96073500
looks like an indian myth figure DESU

Friend just gifted me a Clawlord on Gnawbeast
Post rats, I want colour scheme inspos instead of the usual boring Clan Mors

Guys pride month is over you can stop pretending to like AoS now.

i like 4th edition, what is even the problem with it? unironically asking.

>>96073799
Dumbed down and “ simplified “ a la 40k 10th. It’s becoming more of a board game than a wargame.

>>96073707
Have some McDonalds rats courtesy of the warcom team
>>96073799
It's a solid core but they sucked out all the flavour out of armies while they were at it

>>96073799
D3 dice is an issue. The game is also desperately asking for a creation table or something. Being able to pay points to customize your dudes ( not wargear, let’s say their origins are from ghyran so champion models get an additional health, something in that vein).

>>96071647 (OP)
>Thread Question>What 1e webstore microfaction would you have turned into a full faction, given the chance
Probably spiderfang. If you'd asked me in 3e I would've said gitmob but we just got them and are about all you could ask for out of them aside from sucking in game

>>96073799
mostly the lack of customization for characters and subfactions. everything else would be tolerable for me if they just legalized the anvil of apotheosis for regular play.

however, they did make some warscrolls completely unplayable for no reason and that is an unforgivable sin

>>96073808
>It’s becoming more of a board game than a wargame.

this means nothing. it has meant nothing every time you've repeated it for the last 6 months. it is not played on a board, you do not box it all up at the end of a game.

you could argue that warcry or spearhead are boardgames, even though they both require you to make large purchases separately they are preconstructed formats played on a board. but age of sigmar proper is played on a full scale wargame table with scratch build flexible armies upwards of $500 a piece. NOTHING about it is even remotely close to a board game

>>96073918
Warscrolls are no more flexible than cards that you would use in a tcg or underworlds. You’re not customizing a list you’re building a deck in the current edition. We’ve gone the way of 40K and dumbed everything down to appeal to a non existent competitive retard market.

>>96073918
>>96073938
This. Let’s not cope about the current state of AoS. It’s bad and if we accept it we will end up like 40k

>>96073512
>Is that actually a thing?
not exactly with those words, now that I check back, but it kinda was
https://youtu.be/OPnq7_l5Oh0

I just grabbed some AoS hardbacks on deep discount, $60 total.

Yndrasta: The Celestial Spear
Anvils of Heldenhammer: The Ancients
Blacktalon
The Hollow King
Darkoath

Has anyone read them? Am I in for a good time?

>>96074100
Helden hammer was meh. Yndrastas book was fun though

>>96074100
The Yndrasta novel is good. It will take a little while before you get your bearings in the story, but bear with it and things will clear up.

>>96074100
Did you really just spend money on black library slop written post 2010?

>>96074100
i read blacktalon and yndrasta, the celestial spear. Blacktalon is a good mystery that ends up humanising Neave to a very high degree imo. Yndrasta is a solid look at ghur, but its mostly a bunch of human survivors trying their best not to get killed in ghur. You do get some neat bits of lore and background details.

>>96074100
An eclectic mix of just okay filler fantasy lit. GW are recruiting better authors now but who knows if that'll stick
I rather liked Yndrasta; the look into an unusual Ghur culture and exploring her relationship to mortals. It's jarring compared to her actual lore but then BL is a sub-canon kind of thing half the time so. Solid varied cast which is unique for BL which usually focuses too much on a single protagonist, Yndrasta has herself and then a band of survivors each with their own little arc on a survival roadtrip

>>96073938
tcgs aren't boardgames and sigmar isn't either, boardgames actually have rules they don't allow half the pieces of the game to constantly break at will and do whatever the fuck they want.

ulgu book when

Anyone got the latest generals handbook scans ?

Weren't they going to do a bunch of reveals on the 11th, what happened to that, all I've seen so far are horusfags crying because of the new rules leaks.

>>96074372
No one cares for Malerion and his emoteenage shutdown.
When Gitmob will get their own book? No that's interesting.

>>96074335
Sigmar is becoming more like a board game with a deck building aspect. Much like 40k. No customization or interesting choice outside of building your deck and “ piloting “ it. AoS and 40k really can’t be called war games anymore imo. Not that that’s a bad thing.

>>96074499
Nah GW has forgotten AoS to the point of not even a pity warcom article for the 10th anniversary. It’s actually really sad.

>>96074499
The reveal show is next friday

>>96074663
That’s for everyone. It’s the summer show not the AoS anniversary show. GW did nothing for the anniversary. HH was more important I guess.

>>96074606
your distinction is arbitrary and its not an aspect associated with board game design.

>>96074701
The board game aspects relate to the actual gameplay and its goals. A wargame simulates a battle, you regaining a model doesn’t simulate a battle (outside of death where it’s still plentiful as a mechanic) it’s a board game mechanic to balance the game. AoS 4th is full of these and has dramatically cut down on simulation, much like 40k. Which is why both are becoming more like board games and intentionally stepping away from being wargames.

>>96074672
>I'm retarded
Cool, thanks for clarifying

>>96074701
>>96074737
Following up. Why are you dickriding GW so much? Do you like the direction the game is headed in? Do you want it to be dumbed down even more so? I personally want a return to 3rd, so I don’t understand the defending of this current crappy edition.

>>96073816
>>96073808
>>96073834
>>96073897
ah, i see. i started with 3rd edition but 4th was announced before i got a ton of games in, and i havent really kept up with the game side of things for the past year or so.

>>96074789
Yeah. No real point of getting too heavily invested now. Either find a group still playing 3 or wait until 5th and hope it improves.

>>96074737
Its not a boardgame mechanic, boardgame rules are parallel for everyone. The shoe in monopoly doesn't get a random rule to skip over boardwalk to try to make the shoe more unique and customizable than the hat like shit aos and tcgs that make balancing impossible.

>>96074811
I can see you don’t play many board games if you think asymmetry in a game means it’s no longer a board game lmao.

>>96074795
i did buy skaventide because i like skaven so i was curious what had happened since. luckily im a models first kinda guy so i dont really depend on the game to solidify my enjoyment

>>96074866
Yeah the models are mostly great still. Shame that the rules are so shitty now that the game is pretty much not worth playing anymore.

>>96074878
Spoken like a true no games

I'm actually shocked the Chorf models haven't been leaked yet, despite the army being leaked over a year ago.
They are apparently capable of keeping some things secret.

>>96074839
you think making a guys socks red for +1 point makes it not a boardgame.

>>96071855

i think they fumbled the new skaven models desu, they look too repugnant/serious. skaven soul lied with the funny. ratmen were at their best when they were obssessive self-centred highly jealous genius idiots cracked out on warpstone riding around on giant warptech machinations blasting holes in everything around them and each other

there is no sense of humour in the new skaven models

>>96074892
Gws kept a tight lid on leaks I guess. Hell I’m pretty sure they themselves are the ones that leak their own stuff after looking at the HH drama.

>>96074932
The HH leaks prove that not all leaks are corporate insider faux leaks. The leaked rules had text all over them calling out multiple discord mods/Facebook HH posters calling them faggot and niggers and trannies. So I am certain it wasn’t an inside job. Unless GW corporate called people trannies and faggot and niggers to cover their own tracks, but the leaks destroyed the launch of HH 3.0 and it has flopped going off the data from HHG. So again, I don’t think it’s corporate leaks.

>>96073816
It's not a bad scheme, but I feel like it mostly works if you keep their fur very dark, the white/grey ones are just odd
tfw it's a ruleposting weekend instead of a miniposting one

>>96074919
That’s something AoS lacks as a whole. There was a lot more humour in fantasy. Silly aspects of humans, greenskins, skaven etc. Now everyone is super serious mudcore grimderp except for the gsg who are the designated silly faction.

>>96074919
>>96074955
you spout nothing but buzzwords.

>>96074919
My guess is that the criticism levied at AoS for appearing too whimsical early on was taken to heart by GW insiders and they're just overcorrecting in the other wrong direction.

>aos is too serious
>looks at nurgle demons

>>96075045
stop posting anime coal

>>96075086
Anime site
Anime board
Anime threads

>>96075045
AoS is not too serious it just lacks the humour of fantasy. It’s too self important for such an ungrounded setting.

If you had to bet, now, on the verge of the reveal, if the aesthetic of nu-Chorfs will be a hit or a miss what would you say anons? Come on, show your GW behaviour knowledge.

>>96075189
Genuinely GW has run such a tight ship that I don't have much idea what they're going to look like. I think there will be a minority of people who will be extremely loudly upset that Chorfs don't look exactly the way they expected that will shift discussion in a negative direction everywhere but it'll eventually turn out that it's just a couple of loud retards and most people don't give a shit about their gripes, just because that always happens.

>>96075216
this. i expect a kharadron case all again.

>>96074892
Yeah they've managed to keep it fairly close to themselves for once. We've known they were coming for quite a while of course, we know that there's 12 kits supposedly, and a "dreadnought". But other than that, it's really all guesswork. Don't even really know what they'll look like.
>>96075189
Since oldchorfs and the forgeworld rendition looked so different, it's bound to dissapoint some people depending on which side they lean more into. Personally I have faith they'll pull it off. Maybe this is copium but they're generally pretty good at porting over fantasy stuff to modern aos sculpt quality (seraphon, StD, new soulblight, ...)

I can tell you right now though there'll be a mass of concern trolling when they inevitably reveal a handful of female sculpts.

Play Pyrofane Cult. Pink tzaangors.

>>96075285
i reject birds, call me when they make tzeentch warriors of at least blightknight quality

>>96075285
>half of these cults were wiped out between 2e and 3e

>>96075285
I miss these, they had lots of inspirational random fluff they dropped instead of just painting actual models. They even released paint guides for Ironjawz but you never see Weirdladz or something outside of 1e
Soulless

Bros /hhg/ is making fun of skaventide flopping…

>>96075189
They almost pull off something really cool, but they narrowly miss it.
And the most prominent named characters will be women in masculine roles, and the major infantry unit kits will be unisex.

Not even trying to be dramatic or "chudpost", this is how they've behaved for a while.
I just want fucking dwarfs with beards and no diapers.
>>96075277
I wouldn't be sad if they changed up some things, while keeping some themes.
Tall turbans with big black beards, keeping to some of the middle-eastern themes would be kino actually.
>when they inevitably reveal a handful of female sculpts.
If they're optional I won't care much.

>>96075337
cults doesn't exist, battle formations represent an army bonus completely detached from the setting :)

>>96075352
Yeah for being such a small thing it adds a lot of character to the army, and it's easier to do than asking 'Eavy Metal to paint up 20 dudes with different palettes and patterns for a showcase gallery. Ideally every army should get a couple pages like that.

>>96075389
Skaventide sold very well my uncle works at GW and told me!

>>96075189
women, half naked troops, no big hats, no beards, no babylonian stylings or crooked noses.

>>96075389
>>96075425
skaventide DID sell well
every box in my LGS sold out shortly after launch and sold out AGAIN when it restocked

>>96075389
If they're comparing it to the saturine box then thats how you know they're being retarded.

>>96075189
I really really want to see Chorfs's aesthetic like Horns of Hashut. Im sure they will not be very mesopotamiam, but if they still have some of that flavor, i will be more than happy.

>>96075477
Or maybe something like the Iron Golem's chorf. Looks very sick with his metal circles beard.

>>96071761
Very cool conversions

>>96071952
I miss that comic the edits were funny

>>96075440
Sold so well that gave it away for free at Adepticon to literally everyone with a pass LMAO

>>96075557
Wow. So they gave it away to people who bought their way into adepticon.

>>96075564
Dude skaventide flopped so hard you could buy it for 50% off at FLGS a few months after release because they wanted to clear dead stock. You can find it right now for way below the 15% off gw max in my country because it isn’t selling at normal prices. It’s one of GW’s biggest flops of all time and you have to be deluded to think otherwise.

>just noticed both aspiring & exalted deathbringers are gone from the webstore
Unsurprising but still a little sad. Those guys have stuck around since 1e. And with the SC! also being dropped after so many years, BoK are really losing a lot of stuff that stuck around through 3e.

>Mighty Lord of Khorne
>Bloodstoker
>Bloodsecrator
>Aspiring Deathbringer
>Exalted Deathbringer
>Khorgorath
>SC! exclusive Blood Warriors
>SC! exclusive Bloodreavers
>Gorechosen of Dromm
Not even counting older warbands since I'm pretty sure they were dropped in 3e. The new Deathbringer is nice and all, but there's a fair bit of stuff being discarded here.

>>96075584
Gorechosen board game just got a lot pricier

>>96075584
I wish they discarded bloodreavers and blood warriors too
the claws of karanak can replace bloodreavers and they can make new better blood warriors that don't look like blood bowl kitbashes

>>96075584
I missed the opportunity to buy the Aspiring Deathbringer. Such awesome model. I hope it returns some day in the future.

>>96075584
>>Mighty Lord of Khorne
>>Bloodstoker
>>Bloodsecrator
>>Aspiring Deathbringer
>>Exalted Deathbringer
Are you sure these aren't simply being reboxed?

>>96075580
Why would you expect anyone to care that skaventide is below 15% off in the Philippines? You’re dumb ass isn’t even considering all the spearheads that were sold out at the time when the edition dropped that surrounded skaventide. Now go make your umpteenth thread to get validated with self bumps.

>>96075580
idk it sold like hotcakes here in the UK where GW is based, so i don't know what to tell you

>>96075477
>im sure they will not be very mesopotamian
I assumed so at first too but their white dwarf teaser article (I think ? Might be from somewhere else) mentions ziggurats in the mountains or something. I'm really hoping for babylonian chorfs, but horns of hashut were quite cool too.

>>96075557
Imperium had that too

>>96075612
>>96075618
Yikes. I’ll leave you copers to your delusions. It’s like kicking a sick puppy that isn’t long for this world.

>>96075580
its $180 on ebay, a whole 10 less than I paid for it 12 months ago when it actually was sold out and I had to overpay for extra jezzails.

>>96075557
>Newfag doesn't realize that GW does this all the time

>>96075682
Nah, you’ll stick around here. I don’t know why, but you will.

Does anyone have a pdf for the 4th edition Slaves to Darkness Battletome?

>>96075189
I'm putting all my money on something like pic related.
Be prepared fags.

>>96075836
Please. Muscles are needed.

>>96075584
I can't believe how all the models you posted and pic related are insanely above the last absolute shit sculpts they made for Khorne... How could they green light such shit after make this chads is beyond me.

>>96075856
That might be the first fat Khorne character I’ve seen

>>96075836
Anything but "generic dwarf but with dark metal armor and fire"

>>96075877
>pic related

>>96075856
Underworlds usually has 10/10 sculpts, the new khorne one being so ass genuinely has me thinking they put the intern on it or something. Although the DoK wasn't anything to write home about either.
>>96075868
Too busy burning skulls he forgot to burn calories

>>96075779
sorry, I don't

>>96075877
Didn't like the multiple eyes thing on the horns of Hashut, don't like it on that icon either.
So maybe that's what we'll get.

>>96076093
Yeah, that icon is very ugly. I want mesopotamiam bull dwarves, not angry train dwarves.

Can someone tell me the most important events that have occurred in the 4th edition so far?

>>96076236
Was there anything else besides the Skaven thing at the very beginning?

>>96076236
uhhh sigmar lied

>>96075779
Don't worry bro, keep asking, your link will appear sooner or later.

>>96076236
Half the stormcast decided to go home to Azyr for a few years and give up the battlefield.

>>96076236
>GHR became the 5th Chaos god of desperation, famine & desolation
>Skaven has invaded on mass
>Sigmar open the Ruination Chamber after Ionus and Iridin convince him the whole search for the cure for reforging shouldn't be priority
>Bonereapers left to the edge of the realm
>Beastmen got slaughter to pathetic number
>Drogz Sunchomp took control of the mountains northwest of Har Kuron leading the gitmob to conqueror the demon prince dominion and pushing the darkoath out
>King Volturnos got Mathlena to get out the abyss to help out the idoneth. But the priestess is a Namari supremacist
>Chaos dwarfs coming soon

>>96076336
Holy shit, they really have done nothing for almost 2 God damn years of there entire 4th edition already with nothing happening besides that?!! What a load of fucking bullshit GW, at least with the 3rd you could argue that major events were happening, slowly but still happening all the same on a yearly basis, but this is fucking Pathetic.

>>96076122
Completely agree. I know the infernal engines is something people love though.

>>96076336
>Bonereapers left to the edge of the realm
I missed this. Last thing I heard was that Katakross told them to stop expanding, and prepare for defense instead.
Was there anything else to this? Why'd they go there?

>>96076301
Not a fan of aqshy just being all dark and i hospitable volcanoes and shit, but that aside that's actually a really cool piece of art. Captures the "oh shit" that the vermindoom is supposed give
>>96076366
I assume he meant bonesplitterz anon

>>96076355
>Holy shit, they really have done nothing for almost 2 God damn years of there entire 4th edition
But 4th edition came out last year today.

>>96075189
>If you had to bet, now, on the verge of the reveal, if the aesthetic of nu-Chorfs will be a hit or a miss what would you say anons?
Given GW is on a nostalgia binge I'd be happy to bet the Chorfs will look more familiar than new, it's just a question of what parts make it in and what parts don't.
Still hoping infernal guard ,or at least aspects of them, make it to plastic.

>>96076673
Fuck me time flies by fast, but my point still stands in that case. More then a year has passed by, and literally nothing has changed since the first month of the edition beyond what was already expected to occur, and none of what has been written that are completely separate from the events of the Vermintide is of any relevance since in the case of the both the Idoneth and Darkoath has actually changed what either faction is doing besides, another plot hook that’s going to be completely forgotten in 6 months time just for a whole new thing to occur which will take center stage and force something to occupy the narrative before we run back to square 1 for the next edition in 2027.

Also, its a shitty thing to try and nit pick only a single inaccuracy to then bring down a real problem with the edition, especially if its literally nothing else besides "It's achutually been only 1 year not 2" schtick you tried for that post.

>>96076781
how does time fly fast when you thought it was 2 years ago idiot.

>>96076783
>resident moron troll doesnt even understand how to use his own colloquialism

checks out.

>>96076734
I hope there is a big hat version of the fags to soipog over, and a cool face mask version kinda like pic related

>>96076793
time flys means its been longer than you thought dimwit not less time, and you used it not me.

The furries will be the most well received part of chorfs

>>96076819
Nah, it can also be used for how quickly time moves when you thought it was way longer then what it actually was. It's not an either or in using it for a sentence structure. You would know about this if you asked a random guy on the street something and revealed it happened way shorter then what they thought it really was.

There's no way chorfs are going to be a thing. Non-standard dwarves just arent that popular. Fyreslayers are extremely niche and KO probably have a playerbase going into the dozens of people.
What AoS needs is another law-aligned human faction.

>>96076951
CHAOS-dwarves. Standard dwarves.

>>96076781
>More then a year has passed by, and literally nothing has changed since the first month of the edition beyond what was already expected to occur
Is this your first edition or something? No shit nothing has happened yet, that's what the mid to late edition campaign series books are for.

Every battletome is just going to have a few notes about how things have changed for the faction since (the start of edition calamity) hit and not much else. This is standard.

>>96075189
Honestly don't know. Typically I'd be rather hopeful considering how great many of the legacy faction AoS versions have been; Skaven, Lizardmen, Warriors of Chaos, etc... However the Horns of Hashut Warband leaves quite a bit to be desired. It works well for slaves/human auxiliaries, but I hope the Dawi(Duardin god I hate that name)-Zharr have a lot more flair to them.

>>96076990
>Da
how did the original chaos dwarves even see out of their helmets

>>96076990
NGL, Horns of Hashtut are up there as maybe my least favorite Warcry Warband, really don't dig them at all.

I don't have any expectations, if anything I'll be relieved if the chorfs look dumb because I'll be less tempted to buy them, but I kinda hope they look better than this dweebs anyway.

>>96075868
Bloodstoker is fat too

>>96071761
Based conversion chad.

>>96077040
I suppose thats true

>>96071761
Those aren't your models you took those from reddit

>>96076843
What the fuck are you smoking?
>"Had this car for ages man."
>"You bought it yesterday."
>"Shiiiit time flies".

>>96076843
No it can't you are retarded

>>96075285
Afterschool special about puberty vibes

>>96077540
>hair in weird places
like head and shoulders.

>>96071867
>There are evlen sniper corps in fastwater after all.
That's an aelf who's just an officer in the greycaps freeguild there, not part of any elven sniper corps. Her whole deal is being a wanderer in a city that hates allarielle and forsaking her heritage to fit in

They should have multi-race units for more elite stuff and then have dwaves + elves with their own supplimentary niches in the army, though

You can have mediocre models, weird models and ugly models, but you cant have all 3 in 1. Thats what you think until you saw the Khorgorath. WTF is this piece of shit?!?! Looks ultra retarded and ugly as hell, a bootleg version of a chinese Doom copy.
Seriously, this thing needs to be destroyed or remodeled asap. Ugliest and more ridiculous model ever.

>>96075285
these technicolor army factions must have been relatively cheap to produce AND did the work of suggesting more faction depth at the same time, a shame they removed them seemingly just to reduce page count

>>96077674
Is definitely a model of all time. I guess I like the skulls that are prolapsing out of his flesh

>>96071656
I remember the threads back then would be non stop glazing the fire belly.

Wanderers were cool but at least they went home to Wood Elves in ToW.

Old Free Cities was cool.

Tbh I miss rules for Grand Alliances and Legions of Nagash.

>>96076292
that's how it works, yeah

>>96073816
Cheeseburger mascots

>>96075611
No anon obviously they're just removing Khul, the main character of the faction

>>96077674
Looks like a power ranger monster, and not a very good one.

>>96077674
I love this guy! Got two but have painted three. You gotta remember a khorgorath is a very mutated and tortured mortal. Dudes half a bad day away from full chaos spawn.
I have a fringe theory: That the first Khorne Dbloodbound kit had a las minute decision to replace the bases from the Mighty Lord with th Korgoraht.
Thus, if you place this guy on the 80mm base (and leave the Lord Ovloid), the Korgorath suddenly has a front-facing angle, wherein you can clearly see this behemoth has a solid martial stance. Its as if a giant gorilla suddenly pulled up and started boxing. It looks more menacing. But since the oval base was forced upon him (dont think a woman can become a korgorath. Khorne is absolutly the gayest chaos lord. and he has a Type)., the only way to look at him is on a bland 3/4 angle.
Another advice is to actually paint him flessh colored. There used to be a guy under those skulls, and no trauma cant turn a cracker red.

>>96076951
It look look 9 years to get a standard ass human knight on a horse in this game dude, and the humans they made still look half fucked. I'm 100% certain they would happily go make ice mining chinese moon dwarves before remaking basic ones yet again.

>>96077862
>ice mining chinese moon dwarves
That’s just votann

>>96077674
>>96077849
Here, posting model. To fill the base, theres a dead stormcast. Love me high contrast palletes. Since i started adding turquoise to Khorne, the mortals suddenly look a lot better.

>>96077878
Thing is the model´s silluette doesnt work on the oval base, while it would work on a round base. Specially since thKorgorath´s "head" is half a mangled mass of horns and bone. Without the correct angle, the model is literally a head smaller, and has no propor proportions, thus making it look absolutly like a giant naked baby.

>>96077878
>>96077902
this changes absolutely nothing
you can also rotate the model on an oval base, you know?

>>96077849
Im sorry, you have all the rights to like it, but you cant convince me. It has tentacles in 1 hand, a bony maw in the oher, only low jaw and skeletal snakes coming out of its wrist and shoulders. Its not cool, its something a 5 years old draws.

>>96077069
did he say they were? go back

>>96076843
Amazing, I bet you're the type of dumbass to say could care less as well

>>96073470
I don't think the arthropod legs fit their look actually

>>96073475
Khaine is Khorne's thing.

>>96078009
They'd look fine. I want a new Hydra for them too.

>>96076843
>>96076781
I am here to laugh at you also.

>>96077878
Mhyea, I like this angle better. Still don't like the tentacle arm but it's not that bad of a sculpt, has got something loveable about it.
>>96078009
Manticore centaur DoK would be cool

>>96071761
>>96078009
other types of monster stalkers are really tickin my box
Makes me want to cut my Spearhead ladies off their bases, excise their tail, and redo them.

>>96073475
Cane is just a type of Corn

Do Hobgrots have any play? I must have 100s of them from Dominion (everyone was discarding the 20-40 they got for very little at my lgs).

>>96077565
You have hair on your shoulders?

Any ideas on what will be in the second NH spearhead ? Current one has a good smattering of all your basic infantry ghosts but nothing that stands out. Craventhrone guard ? Dreadblades ?
Pyregheists are a given, seeing as they love recycling warcry for spearhead boxes.
>>96078406
Hope chorfs do something fun with them

>>96076951
We've known it's Chorfs for over a year.
You are pretty much in denial if you still don't think it's Chorfs.

>>96078505
Bladeghaists + Spirit Torment.
Or they'll throw in the online only Soul Wars exclusive heroes, just like KB Spear has the Dominion exclusive heroes

Corn announcement in five hours.

I just learned MtG made Nurgle demons black instead of green, while Khorne is red and Tzeentch is blue.
What a blunder

>>96078732
MtG colour coding wasn't made with Warhammer in mind? That's crazy.

>>96076951
standard dwarves have gotten jack shit for ten years then unceremoniously squatted
hardly popular

>>96078744
Except Green fits a lot better with Nurgle's happy stagnation than Black, the colour of ambition.

>>96078764
Nurgle is all about the cycle of life and renewal, black fits imo and wizards evidently agree

>>96078777
>777
case closed

>>96078777
>>96078780
Fuck, you're wrong, but i can't dispute the numbers, so fine

>>96078480
not him, but I do, quite a lot too

>>96078764
nah, black is death and so is nurgle, green in mtg has more positive connotations, ideally nurgle would be g+b

>>96078732
Slaanesh is also red. Some Tzeentch daemons are red/blue.

I want to do an army of humans and elves working together, does CoS actually do this or am I better off getting stormcast and giving some of them elf heads or something

>>96079036
>Slaanesh is also red
Red is the closest to pink

>>96079115
Cities of Sigmar kind of does this but it's not as supported as it should be.

>>96079115
CoS as a multiracial army was a mistake.

I still don't understand why Cado got a second model.

>>96079203
blacked library is desperate to make their characters stick and since it's a separate department when it comes to budget, they're also desperate to make the minis they make sell enough to justify getting more budget (and benefit).

which means they latched onto the sliver of popularity the first miniature had and made a second (pricier one due to accompanying nobodies) for a quick buck from the same people who bought the first mini.

except they're wrong and foolish in thinking people bought the first mini for their stories, and not because it was one of the few nongay vampires on the store.

>>96079115
Not really. Humans get enhancements that only target Humans, have abilities that only target Humans, and so on.
There's a Scourge of Ghyran enhancement that plays into the theme of cooperation but otherwise no.
CoS used to be more general. Spells, abilities, enhancements usually targeted Cities of Sigmar units not X keyword so synergy was a given despite obvious specific combos. They removed that in 3e so it's basically 3 armies in 1.

>>96079361
Also picrel battle formation ig also in Scourge

>>96079115
play lumineth, proxy some models as human equivalents instead of the elven versions

>>96079361
>>96079371
oh nvm I forgot 4e actually helped cross-racial stuff with it's streamlining

>>96079203
Same reason they remade a 2 year old wight king model.
Logistic retardation

>>96079463
That had a different reason: the wight king was made purposefully and exclusively to move as much of the outdated grave guards and black knights as possible before their replacement, and was made to fit their aesthetic.
With the replacements shifting the aesthetic, the wight king no longer serves its function and no longer fits the rest of the look chosen for the skeletons

Was the GHB scanned properly?

>>96079115
Use a regiment of renown to soup two armies.

>>96079203
>>96079463
>sculpt, tool, promote and sell model
>make operating costs back and a significant profit
They shouldn't do this again because?

>>96079576
True, now the legacy vampire counts can return to Warhammer fantasy just like beastmen did.

I don't even know that there are any interesting foodstuffs in the Mortal Realms. The non-Chaos folks seem to eat mostly boring grains and saltwater fish. Maybe that's why so many have turned to cannibalism, just for the variety. Can you think of anything you'd like to try?

>>96079707
For a medieval-based society the concept of spices, livestock, availability of arable farmland, and salt come up surprisingly seldom.

>>96079707
Khadron ale, maybe some silent people too.

>>96079722
its brought up in soulbound, but age of sigmar battletome/core book lore tends to be more focused on the drama of the gods and clash of armies

>>96079707
Soulbound mentions Ulguan "gloomrice" as a staple food for many dawnbringers because it's easy to grow basically wherever there's soil. However, it never tastes quite the same from one meal to the next. So while it's easy to grow, preparing a good dish out of it is a different matter.

>>96071761
Anyone know where those spider bodies are from? I had a look at Middle Earth spiders, but I don't know if they would be the right size for them.

>>96079868
>>96079824
>>96079722
there is also the consideration that out of all of the armies in the game, maybe like....2 or 3 would actually concern themselves with any kind of farming.

all of destruction, as well as probably deepkin, flesh eaters, and daughters of khaine, get everything they need from raids and spoils. chaos might have some farms among its cults, but more than likely they just get what they need from raids, cannibalism, or just straight up dont eat and subsist on some kind of awful chaos corruption. the darkoath tribes are probably the only ones settled enough and still mundane enough to have an agriculture going. kharadron and fyreslayers likely get what they need through imports and trade on account of them both living in equally barren locales (up in the sky in floating metal cities or in volcanic mountain temple cities respectively) and the undead obviously dont eat apart from the occasional vampire preying on mortals.

so you've got the mortals of the cities of sigmar, the aelves of the lumineth, and the darkoath tribes being the big agriculture societies. maybe deepkin have some kind of seafood livestock setup, sylvaneth do plant groves but i dont think they actually cultivate foodstock out of it. seraphon im actually not sure about. they used to be energy daemons remembered into being but now that they are flesh and blood and not particularly prone to evil raids and the skinks are smart enough to set up farms and shit, they might have something but idk if i've ever seen it mentioned.

>>96075584
WE'RE FUCKING BACK

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/jkwdtmzc/sunday-preview-gold-and-gore-flow-through-the-mortal-realms/

>>96079974
IT'S ALL BACK

>>96079974
>They actually reboxed the OG SC box
Huh, did not expect that.

>>96071761
When GW will commit to DoK fans demands and give us more monster girls?
Meanwhile cheers to you absolute chad!

>>96079974
Damn, Khorne, KO, UW, Made to Order, they're pushing out everything this week

>>96079974
Khorgorath bros we're so fucking back
But damn yeah, nice to know they're not forgetting the 1e boxset stuff. Also surprised they're releasing both the khorne and kharadron stuff, I guess they're trying to cleam house before the chorf reveal ?

>>96079974
Told you they'll do this

Also, regiment of renown boxes are pretty cool and I think something new with this release.

(Not counting the really old and smaller 3E boxes)

>>96079974
FUCK YEAH KHORNEBROS
BEST SCULPTS

>>96079974
So what was lost here was the two deathbringers and the underworlds stuff, and I think we all saw that coming.

>>96079988
Nice, those gryph statues are cool

I'd like to see a price tag but this is probably not bad.

>>96080137
Based another faction led by blacks. AoS is Africa’s game fr.

Oh so they're not just carrion feeders, they're Khul's unofficial fan club.

>>96080137
Nice to see non-posterboy colour on something

>>96080153
>Khul ascends
>We get this instead of a new model
man what the fuck

>>96079988
>classic woods back temporarily instead of a permanent TOW addition
Huh
Stormvault was a kino set but no Warcry tbhon

>>96080192
I guess it doesn't match what GW considers TOW terrain.
All the trees in the model photographs are the older model railway-looking type of trees

>>96080153
I like Khul has fans because he deserves them but... This is not the kind of fans he should get.

>>96080219
I never realised the preyton was a little guy

>>96080166
March 2027

>>96080242
Evey Khorne guy is a Khul fan, he's he most famous Khorne champion in the setting

>>96079707
There's this little bit in Godeater's Son.

>>96079707
Someon post the "Agrarians of Sigmar" battletome

>>96075779
Here's your StD

>>96079935
maybe wargames atlantic?

>>96080137
Better spearhead than the actual new kharadron spearhead

Speaking of spearheads, is khorne keeping the old one ? The doggy one is fun and thematic in the gamemode itself and all but terrible if you want to start a proper khorne army with it.

>>96080387
I think all the spearheads are additive, so you can play both in the game mode.

>>96080413
I know, but I mean as in the boxes themselves being sold. Like how the old ogre spearhead isn't available anymore.

>>96079974
I'm genuinely surprised they're keeping these up still

>>96080465
khul shares a sprue with the rest and he's not getting refreshed

>>96080348
Honestly I didn't think I'd be able to get them, but North Star Military has 'em and I could use the leftover spiders for basing and basic jobbers.

I'll ask my LGS and get some next week when I get paid.

>>96080496
Actually Khul only shares the sprue with the baner guy, whcih is why they were selling them as a box of 2 for a while

>>96080465
They know they are good even if not the best.

>>96080553
KORGHOS KHUL
& some guy

>>96080496
khul doesn't look like that anymore, man, they don't need to keep that miniature

>>96080601
he's not getting refreshed

>>96080601
>khul doesn't look like that anymore,
Who knows. All he got for conquering Aqshy was a dog, maybe his demonhood manifests as just a pair of evil mustache

>really excited for chuardin
>remember my LGS doesn't even do AoS anymore
oh

>>96080572
They're definitely the only good bloodreavers

>>96080655
Garrek & Co look fine.

>>96080623
He got some description

imo Khorne has a lot of well made a good looking models, such thing makes me wonder... >>96080153 what went wrong?

>>96080325
You are a blessing from the dark gods anon, thank you.

>>96080669
Are they available?

>>96080892
Idea half baked to the point of giving viewers salmonella

>>96080892
The wacky fun explorative design AoS likes means sometimes you explore in a direction no one winds up wanting to buy.

>>96080153
These remind me of the electro-zombies in that it's a potentially fun concept ruined by being done in an excessively insipid and underdone way

>>96080137
i still need the drekki model and i've only got 1 frigate and 10 arkanauts, so i might pick this up.

im definitely getting like 4 boxes of those new jump pack harpoon guys though, i dont care what their rules are like, the new dudes are sick

>>96080923
Still don't like them but a definite improvement. The original paintjob didn't do an already terrible kit any favours

>>96081026
I like that we finally get beards & female helmets among the infantry.

>>96081026
The cover art undersells these guys so hard. They're all fucking cool, even the butch negress with the nose ring. It's a crime how dirty the battletome does them.

>>96081092
i am thankful we dont have to deal with those accursed flight stands anymore too. god those things were awful, shitty connection points, snap half the time you transport them, of such a shape that attaching a magnet is basically impossible.

i know some people dont like tactical debris, but these ones look pretty good and the poses are fantastic, they give a moon gravity kind of effect like the anti-grav harkonnen shit from the new dune movies.

>>96081026
Great head swap for a Warden Kin- Oh...

>>96081108
the new covers just seem to universally suck this edition, which is weird because most of the new core book art from the 4e core book was great. very bizarre.

>>96079974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PI_e_FSLS4

>>96080923
A chaos warrior headswap would fix them but even then they'd just be bland khorne marauders

>>96080892
>what went wrong?
new sculptress

>>96080892
>>96080923
looks like a modeling test for a new novice sculptor that they're trying to get some money out of. GW has done it before.

Is there any info about the next skaven release wave yet? pestilens and eshin units are still missing.

>>96081832
I believe leakers said eshin is getting something this edition. Dunno about pestilens.

>>96081832
nope
we expected at least eshin, if not both, to be addressed with warcry, but warcry seems to have been left on its deathbed with no real sign of a successor yet

>>96081124
I don't understand why they keep releasing models that use oval bases. It never makes sense to use ovals in this game.

>>96081928
some models are longer than they're wider and they look bad on round bases because they don't fill a lot of that space

>>96081928
Has AoS had anything as egregious as the 40k Warpsmith (which is on an oval base just to accommodate his cape) yet?

>>96081974
Anon...

>>96082002
grim

>>96082020
there's also the other dude

>>96082002
>>96082047
These make sense if you recall that they're intended to occupy tiles on a board.

>>96082084
why? all tiles are squared

>>96082105
That's a too small base, not pointlessly large

>>96082002
This model is so fucking ugly. I like most of the cursed city stuff but this (and to an extent the bloodborn) are disgusting

>>96082105
are you asking for it to have a round base?

>>96082130
that's literally the longest base gw produces

>>96082147
yes I want it mounted on a frisbee.

>>96082151
Cool, but half the model still sticks out of the base

>>96082105
The black coach is so fucking cool
Shame the normal nighthaunt infantry all looks the same, the centrepieces are great but I want some variety in my footsloggers

>>96082311
they've gotten a little more creative with like the pyrogheists and shit lately, but yeah that wave 1 stuff is a bit samey

>>96082311
the only two that look similar are the bladegheist and reapers.

>>96082311
If you can't tell a Harridan from a Bladeghast then there's something wrong with you

>>96082311
>the centrepieces
what centerpieces? there's only the black coach

>>96082408
I went to write a post about Arkhan the Black but I forgot he was condemned to the significantly less cool undead faction nobody cares about

Lady Orlander and some of the named units are pretty cool like Reikenor

>>96082430
i still get ptsd about arkhan and 30+ reapers stomping my local meta in 2nd edition during the legion of soup FAQ era.

>>96082404
I'll grant you harridans, they've got something unique going for them. The rest of the army is still just bedsheets with different weapons (don't get me wrong I really like said bedsheets). I just wish they got some stuff with a different silhouette to set them apart. Haunted suits of armor, several ghosts melded together, ghastly angels (some inspiration from picrel), shit like that.
>>96082408
Olynder, reikenor and kurdoss. They're on the smaller side but they're still characters with unique stuff going on that makes them instantly recognizable and stamd out from the rest of the army. I want some of that but for your basic 10 man infantry squad.

weird brutes and brute ragers should just be one unit. The mask look cooler and mixing the big choppers and chain flails looks cooler.

>>96082538
nobody cares if you mix the masks and weapons

the important part is that you make clear whether they're wyrd or not with the paintjob

>>96082538
this>>96082556

just slap whatever bits you want on there, no one gives a shit or will be able to tell which is which anyways. as long as you arent trying to fit both wyrdbrutes and ragerz in the same list, it wont matter at all.

Hey guys. Just started HRT a week ago. I’m really starting to get the urge to play some AoS! Which is the most LGBTQ faction in the game? Mtf if it helps.

>>96082137
If you’re aiming for something elegant than a head swaps just all it takes

>>96082705
go back

>>96082705
Dwarves in the old world. Or maybe wood elves in the old world

i have been watching hammer and bolter and i dont understand the physical world of age of sigmar. its conveniently racially diverse, and woman have big biceps like men. is it like a multi dimensional multi plane type of existence? why would empire cities in this setting still have skaven problems in their sewers?

>>96082705
Probably IDK. They just released a new trans character. Welcome home sister <3

>>96082775
It’s a loose setting that isn’t really supposed to make sense or be fleshed out. It’s just a background so you and the AoS team can create whatever stories you want.

>>96082705
>Hey guys. Just started HRT a week ago. I’m really starting to get the urge to play some AoS! Which is the most LGBTQ faction in the game? Mtf if it helps.

Id say by far the gayest faction is Khorne! id wager a bunch of bloodreavers are trans (with huge titties). Thing is most khorne followers are FtM. Specially theres Herax, the skullgrinder/runecarver in the Dromm warband.
Why i believe they are trans?
first: They are a bit chubby, they are really small and have a weird relationship with Dromm himself. Theres the whole idea of Khorne leading his followers into physical excellence, so anyone that wants to join, can join. Herax´s mask is identical to the runercarver´s the only (current, rip Valkia) female khorne model. Also, Herax has a huge binder-like metal plate. With the shaved head, i got reason enough to believe they are trans.
Other trans armies: Bonerapers (hand made body, hand made soul), gloospite gits (eating enough shrooms to go beyond gender) and i think Idoneth (everyone wears dresses and feels an infinite craving on their souls).

Despite most of Slaanesh´s archers being
trans, the army is so bad i would not recommend them to anyone, specially a sister.

>>96082775
I know this probably a shitpost but aos cosmology is just norse one without the big tree. For all intents and purposes it's a solar system with 8 flat planets.

>>96082705
Why come and make this low effort bait? Just to get some retarded laughs? Here have this pity (you) and end your life.

>>96071647 (OP)
Soon

>>96083799
>>96083799
new bread