Thread 96076966

Work in Progress, "Old Bones" Edition

>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD

>WIP Tutorial Images Mega
https://mega.nz/#F!TvQFCaLb!w8WZKCcOsTRasxrI0JWezw

>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno

>Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s

>Paint thinning 102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDVPoNXyVI

>4 EASY Chipping Tricks For Beginners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku4comhKHJM

>Decal Like a Pro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYKLiEW7p9c

>How to Edge Highlight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoRbYuAfbEk

>How to use contrast style paints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhholrozptI

>How to Paint with Tremors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqp76vAJu9g

>Airbrush Priming and Thinning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkntrSBvXxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGjBQzoukFg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00JVUxABe44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEqT_R41JX8

>Doot Doot!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOB6nqbMBJg

>Who's Johnny, she'd say, and smile in her special way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5Df191WJ3o

>Previous Threads:
>>96043838
>>96021179
>>95999059
>>95975396

Is the army-painter brush-on primer good? Does it compare to spray primer?

I collect 3 regiments and need a new Dorn stubgunner for each one am being stupid

>>96077796
can > AB > brush

>>96077914
yes, because the tankers are probably going to be from their own command structure and seconded to the infantry regiment. Also grunt tankers usually have a different uniform than the line infantry and rarely wear all of it. It's filthy, greasy, and hot as fuck inside a tank.

>>96077914
Not if armour had diff uniforms to the infantry like on earth

LSG has some really deal on a "Vallejo Wash" game color set, but I've admittedly never bothered to look into them
Are they decent enough? I'm running low on Agrax and Nuln and I'd basically end up paying the same amount for those 2 alone as I would for these 8

>>96077796
It's inferior to can, but I've been brushing on for a couple of months now for irl reasons and don't really notice any major issues; it's just more time consuming and stressful, but I enjoy the fact it lets me "get a feel" for the mini

The mad wizard Vriprix

>>96078117
The real Vriprix

Thinking of painting a weirdboy with the recesses in the skin being fluorescent green, but not sure how to go about doing it. Would it be easier just to paint the skin tones first, then varnish, followed by using an oil white paint diluted to an ink consistency to run through all of the recesses, and using the AK flouro green wargame pigment over the top of it?

>>96078267
Tasty apple staff.

>>96077796
don't say the P word you'll summon him

ratlings done and dusted

>>96077914
IT DRILLS THE BARREL
OR IT GETS THE HOSE AGAIN

>>96076966 (OP)
my guy in the op... i'm honored anon

I will never drill a barrel. Games Workshop can model skulls on everything but they can't put a little depression in the end of the guns? Not falling for the hobby drill scam.

>>96078548
You don't even need a hobby drill. Most barrels are small enough that you can just stick the tip of your exacto blade or scalpel or whatever you use there and twist.

>>96078548
> they can't put a little depression in the end of the guns
you either need to make the barrels in two halves or use a three part mold, the second is not an option to GW they dont even know the technology exists

also get a pcb drill bit and use your fingers, you dont need a hobby drill

>>96078112
quick bump just before I pull the trigger

>>96078668
My only experience with Game Color washes was with their old flesh and sepia washes - both quite awful and leaving bubbles no matter what. But I have good experiences with Vallejo normal washes.

>>96078759
thats strange, because those two were excellent. (the old ones).

Do you know a hard plastic flat (1-1,5mm tall) scenic bases manufacturer other than Renedra? I ask because I really like their Paved Effect scenic bases but they are only good for Frostgrave type games/minis unless any of you know how to paint them to make them look non city street like?

>>96078793
Mine flesh wash was always leaving bubbles and in most inconvenient places - imagine huge bubble mark right at the eye of mini, looking somewhat like Roger the Rabbit character.

>>96078598
That's complete nonsense or else every other contour, detail or edge would have to be a multi-part mould as well. Why are they asking customers to whittle their own barrels but not sculpt the whole goddamn model themselves?

>>96078911
>Why are they asking customers to whittle their own barrels
they're not, only people here care

Hello lads, I stripped and repainted (for the third time actually) and added some stuff to this guy to try and do a knight loosely inspired by Kopinski's BT art. Hope I did it some justice, was certainly fun to try

>>96076966 (OP)
What a luscious cloak

>>96078967
Here's the amazing original art by the way

>>96078911
>That's complete nonsense or else every other contour, detail or edge would have to be a multi-part mould as well
look how molds work, you can't have overhangs, you can't do a barrel flat on the sprue and make it have a hole on one end, because the mold comes from either side not from the front
if you ever put together anything square that comes in to halves you can see how is never really square becuase it needs a draft angle to be able to came off the mold at all

picrel is a barrel with a hole on the sprue, you can see how the edge of the sprue has a slot for a third element to come in from the side of the mold to do the hole

Group shot of the nids I've been working on this week

>>96078851
no but one of those rolling pins greenstuffworld sell could work pretty good with some milliput or eqivalent on top of a blank rendara.

>>96072259
Years ago I made "contrast" paints with matt medium, flow aid and acrylic inks/paints. It worked pretty good but I found that if I added too much flow aid the drying time went absolutely crazy, up to several days in some cases. This was Liquitex flow improver for what it's worth.

>>96079092
Looks good anon. Nice scheme.

>>96079042
If they can model detailed chains wrapping these bolt rifles then they can put a divot in the end of the barrel don't drive yourself stupid defending this shit

>>96078759
I ended up picking them up, it was too much of a bargain
I'm used to bubbling with some Vallejo stuff anyway, their white primer's like soap

I really like this Wayne England piece, so I'm trying to make a vampire that looks a bit like it. Good use for one of the emperor's children cone heads since I wasn't likely to use that for anything but the face.

I finished my white freeblade

current work on my rohan

>>96079244
go learn how a mold fucking works and reread my first comment
gw has a lot of detail yes, but they are 20 years behind companies like bandai in moldmaking because they are lazy fucks, bandai can mold a fucking articulated hand on the sprue and does several colored plastic in the same sprue on the regular

i'm not defending gw i'm explaning their incompetence, fuck gw and fuck you

>>96079382
Would definitely benefit from some recess shading and blacklining, looks pretty flat right now

Okay, little conclusion from previous thread post about varnishes, here are better quality photos made with actual camera rather than phone, done on painting training marines. Each varnish was heavily shaken before use and applied with brush damped in water, allowed to dry overnight. Summing up with additional notes:

>Vallejo matt varnish, either straight from bottle or 1-1 thinned with their own thinner ends up rather glossy and dry long. I applied second layer next day, didnt change the glossy effect.
>Vallejo Premium Color on very close inspection shows small bubbles in crevices and similar areas but normally invisible to naked eye. More satin than matte but otherwise even, might slightly saturate colors.
>Vallejo "Mecha Color", tested as mixed either with their flow improver (one drop in 5 drops of varnish) or Vallejo Thinner (1-1), have same result - nice, even, matte effect with only slight trace of gloss. Mixing with water is not recommended, it will separate quickly and leave pool marks or frosting. Suggested to use in small amount at time and stir regularly as it tends to separate. Quite durable mechanically.
>AK "Ultra Matt" with "Matt Varnish" and GW "Contrast Medium" (25-25-50%), very good matte and probably best final effect. Require good mixing before use or can cause frosty/chalky effect and desaturate colors
>Small bonus in form of Gouache Varnish thinned with white spirit (in this case from Talens brand) - aside from subtle matte effect barely change the surface but varnish is there for sure and have acceptable mechanical resistance. If you want to be a painting hipster, it sure is an option.

Tldr: AK "Ultra Matt" + "Matte Varnish" + Contrast Medium is probably best option but Vallejo "Mecha Color" Matte Varnish 50-50 with Vallejo Thinner is also good and probably cheaper.

>>96079672
>all that effort just to mimic a tiny fraction of lacquerGODS power
feels good to stay winning

>>96079672
>tfw I varnish almost everything with just a 1:1 mix of AK matt and satin

>>96079767
Lacquer dissolve acrylic paint so it's not usable with brush.

>>96079798
>brushing on varnish

>>96079672
Thank you for this, anon. I genuinely mean it.

Dang, lightboxes are no meme. Its night and day compared to pics on a table. I just need to have outer lighting to not have it contrast with the upper led lights.
It does make the snow look like cocaine though.

>>96078967
Looks fantastic.
>>96079382
Agreed it's a bit flat, but nice work anyway.

Did more work on the prince, still need to redo the gold. After that the hilt and dagger and then I'm finished I think.

>>96076966 (OP)
not sure if this is the correct gen but i have some questions about painting. i'm new to 40k and i'm trying to paint csm combat patrol
how do i get vallejo ice yellow, white grey, and ivory to not blob? how do i create a proper rim between chaos trim and armour plates?
picrel

>>96079814
Because you absolutely love to mask all those tiny metallic painted parts, right?

>>96079983
No, I’m just not autistic to give a fuck about slightly dulling metallics

bird head

>>96080014
>matt varnish
>slightly dulling metallics
lol

>>96079188
Do you remember the ratios you used?

>>96080028
Nice
I love the exalted box

>>96079915
Thin the paints more and do multiple coats instead. Best way to seperate the trim and panels would be to paint a very thinned down dark color directly into the recess where they meet but that might be a bit too difficult starting out. You could just put a wash over the entire panel, it will naturally run towards the recesses. Afterwards you reapply your original basecoat over the panel but skipping the recesses. Duncan Rhodes' beginner videos are pretty good at explaning the basics, I'd give them a watch.
Oh and also I don't know how much of your scheme is going to be yellow but black is a REALLY bad primer to start from for this color. It's infinitely easier to paint black over a grey or white primer than it is to paint yellow over a black primer. Might be something to consider in the future.

>>96080093
Yeah man, it has so much options and bits. Would be nice if more GW kits were this customizable

Inks over metallics are awesome

>>96079672
How come GW Contrast Medium ended up being a good thinner for varnish?

>>96080100
thanks for the advice, anon
>but black is a REALLY bad primer to start from for this color
due to socioeconomics the primer is black and i need to consider getting a different armour colour.

>>96080163
probably because is a self leveling medium

hmm, what color/ scheme do you think I should paint my last knight?

>>96080414
GREEN

>>96080430
I do have green man on the right, but maybe second greenman is necissary...

>>96080414
red with teal accent

>>96080414
pink and light blue

>>96070980
And just to make sure, it was a 1-1 mix of matte and ultra matte?

>>96080504
that could look real good...

>>96080532
See >>96079672 - 25-25-50% of ultra-matte-contrast medium.

>>96080561
Thanks.

>>96078362
Amen.

I have to now prepare 38 desert/arid themed bases. While your suggestions from previous thread were nice, I'm still scared of perspective. Just wanted to share it with someone. Sorry.

>>96079859
nice

How did I do?

>>96081204
Explain the eyebrows

>>96081087
I don't know what exact advice you got in the previous thread but I can recommend AK texture pastes Desert Sand and/or Sandy Desert. You get a pretty nice looking desert base with just a sepia wash and bone drybrush. If you throw in some dry tufts and rocks it looks very solid for not that much effort imo.

>>96081318
I already have Vallejo sand and ground (various) pastes as well as various decorations (like cheap decorative sand/rocks from 1€ type store) but I'm simply scared of doing so many at once and making them all varied.

>>96081307
They are typically darker than the hair of the scalp, but I acknowledge the contrast is a bit severe. How might fix it?

>>96081204
soul

>>96078117
>>96078258
Good wizards, untrustworthy lookin

>>96081486
Do dark brown or light brown instead of black. Also a thin glaze of skin tone over the 5 o'clock shadow helps immensely in selling it as it blends it to the face

Made from leftovers

>>96081836
very nice!

>>96078967
>>96078975
>Kopinski
Absolutely based, and cool mini

love when people recreate artworks like that, although its usually Blanche

real pain in the arse to paint, should've done more sub-assemblies.

>>96079983
i've started just doing metallics post varnish

>>96081997
Very cool, I started working on my third sorcerer today

>>96081997
>real pain in the arse to paint, should've done more sub-assemblies.
modern GW kits in a nutshell

>>96081836
number 2 is pure smex.

reminds me of the terminator animatic, the diplomacy robot

>>96082063
>terminator
ment matrix

>>96082063
It triggers me to no end that the quote on that picture is wrong

anybody any experience painting 10mm shit? I'm gonna print some stuff for warmaster.

>>96081836
Very nice, I'll save it for my admech bits.

it's based

only minor retouching (on the underside mainly) and varnish left

Just started my Gazhgkull trakka

>>96082457
You know you want to put a little verdigris on him.

>>96082667
just a little bit, as a treat.

>>96082667
maybe i do on the rivets or something, maybe

it hate that this looks so cool because I'm a really shitty painter when it comes to SOH

Painted my first lizard ever. I have no idea what I'm doing, I've never painted anything "natural" before. They are pretty cool minis, though.

>>96083012
Nice green, looking good

>>96083012
I like the basing, very jungle

>>96083027
>>96083073
Thank you anons, you are too kind.

>>96081997
Fine work, Anon. I really like that pale gold. Which paint is that?

>>96083410
pro acryl light bronze and white gold. As metallics go i think they're excellent, need to get the rest of the range.

>>96078287
very solid work! Nice bases. Are those GW models?

Something's gotta be wrong with my TTC oblivion black, it keeps sealing itself shut to the point of ripping skin, and I have certainly not used nearly half of it already

>>96084166
Sometimes I pull on it so hard, I rip the skin.

We have got river bases now,first one to go through. Any ideas how to do a foam if I have motion in it, I'm going to do this for a Wraithlord as well.

>>96085411
>Any ideas how to do a foam if I have motion in it, I'm going to do this for a Wraithlord as well.
Stipple on white Gallery Glass. It's cheap as shit and bonds well to water effects.

>>96085482
I can find Snow White fairly cheap. How would you use it?

>>96085510
Have her clean my room for starters.

>>96085539
I feel like we've had a lot of dad humor here lately

>>96085411
Are the cat hairs supposed to be there?

>>96085578
There is no escape, I am trapped in the sisyphean task of removing cat hairs every brushstroke.

>>96085585
That sounds like actual hell. I don't know why people live with cats. Toxoplasmosis must be a hell of a drug.

>>96085639
I'm toxo-maxing bro, the test boost is insane. I have 20 Cats and I can lift an atlas stone now.

>>96085639
could be worse, there's people that live with other people, imagine that, they talk to them even

>>96085672
Fuck that, can't even imagine.

>>96082514
Just finished my Gazhgkull trakka

>>96085672
They're not so bad, some of my best friends are people.

>>96085987
why do so many people take photos of their hands? put the model down, brother.

looks alright, could do with some more colours though

>>96086387
how is the model going to stay sideways if he doesnt hold it?

>>96086399
magnet

>>96086387
Fucking handophobe.

>go for a primer nap
>humidity dropped from 60% to 50%
Let's go boys

>>96086387
To flex their whiteness probably.

>>96086466
>To flex their whiteness probably
I'm litteraly a sandnigger

>>96086583
He asked about "so many people" thoughbeit

>>96083563
Thanks!
Yeah, just GW ones, nothing "fancy"

>>96086387
Thanks anon, I was so lazy I choosed red

What's a good hobby chair that isn't going to cost me hundreds of dollars?

>>96086665
>good hobby chair
>that isn't going to cost me hundreds of dollars
Pick one.
You can always check google for refurbished/used Herman Miller Aerons. Imo the best chair for everything, and it will last you a lifetime with a little bit of care.

>>96086677
I actually have one already in my office, just a pain to move it. It doesn't really feel like a good chair for painting though.

>>96086698
>chair for painting
Do you wear special painting slippers as well?

>>96086765
>tfw no special painting slippers that detect when your paint isn't thin enough and administer a small elctrical shock before you can ruin your model with thick paint

fuck, I way over did it with the matte finish. now its all white. teaches me right for spraying at the end of the day with barly any light to see what im doing. fuck and I liked how the guy looked before too.

>>96086796
I prefer such functionality with my Army Painter Buttplug(tm).

>>96086808
those bastards are always one step ahead of me

>>96085987
Needs more highlights

>>96086765
Not that anon, but most upper-tier chairs that people buy, including herman millers are designed for use with a computer at a desk, where you're slightly leaned back for optimal spinal alignment. This is not how we paint models, so I don't know why this is so confusing.

>>96086665
Unless I'm misunderstanding something, there really isn't a good chair designed for miniature painting, since the posture is inherently bad for you. Just make sure not to hunch as much as possible and keep your shoulders relaxed.

>>96086819
Or you could get an adjustable table and raise it enough so that you are not going a full hunchback over your minis.

>>96086819
The ideal setup is probably those old technical drawing tables. The ones with a simple bench and a tall inclinated table towards you. You’d only need a way to make the minis steady.

>>96086665
personally I find that since my elbows are mostly always on the desk a "good" chair matters a lot less than it does otherwise.

>>96086869
Just magnetize everything. And don't forget your painting gloves.

>>96086665
>hobby chair
Come on man... Anything that's comfortable is going to work, I don't think even hobby brands are jewish enough to push dedicated chairs for miniature painting

>>96086807
varnish it again?

>>96086665
literally a fucking stool

>>96086933
Rude.

>>96086874
>>96086869
>>96086892
>>96086933
Enjoy your crippling back pain and disc issues in a couple years lol.

Just get a standing desk. Then you don't have to worry about this shit at all.

>>96086971
How do you deal with your feet hurting after a few hours of standing?

>>96087038
skill issue. humans are meant to stand any time we are not sleeping

>>96087038
do a 360 and walk away?

>>96087074
This is how I know you are full of shit.
t. had to stand for 10+ hours at times

Mostly finished with the basecoats now. Hopefully I can finish up tomorrow and do a gloss coat before decals and weathering. These AK of colors are very vibrant!

>>96087038
>>96087084
Get one of those standing pads that some stores provide for their cashiers
This might just be an American thing where we expect service people to always be standing

Going back to question about desert/arid bases from yesterday, I prepared some test pieces (without grass or tufts), which one of them would you consider fitting for mentioned desert or arid planet theme? Any suggestions on what I could include aside from grass or tufts?

>>96087135
Uhh I'm gonna be honest I kinda feel like none of them... #1 and #3 are too dark, #4 is too bright and #2 is too yellow. That said I think if you gave #2 a brown or sepia wash and drybrushed it with cream afterwards it would look good.

>>96087106
>This might just be an American thing where we expect service people to always be standing
it is, and we all think it's very weird and cruel of you.

>>96087135
none of them look like the sand came from those rocks

>>96087135
Here's a nice old guide I found very informative about desert basing: https://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=1744

>>96087196
I think this is also problem of how phone always fucks up white balance and contrast/brightness. Here is different photo, now closer to how they actually look.

But you said that most of them are too dark so solution would be more drybrushing? 1# was made with mud paste, covered with rust wash and drybrushed with orange red and dark yellow, 2# was made with sand paste, treated with dark brown wash and drybrushed with Vallejo "dark sand", 3# was brown earth paste with rust wash and drybrushed with "dark sand" and "pale sand", 4# was sand paste with sepia wash and "pale sand" drybrush.

>>96087347
Yeah definitely #2. One more, lighter drybrush of a brighter color will finish it up nicely.

>>96087218
Well we don't want them being lazy!
I should be the one who gets to sit in my go-cart to navigate around the 2 acre Walmart.

>>96087074
Weird how every single other great ape spends almost all its time sitting.

Anyone else here who can't finish their minis?
I catch myself often jumping through projects and leaving them only 80-90% finished.
Anyways here is a goblin that I started over 6 months ago.
Now that his stool is finished only his staff remains.

>>96087333
Thanks. It refers to using filler or other "home depot" solution and don't mention washes, I wonder how could I apply them to get similar effect (I have quite a lot of terrain pastes, dark and brown mud, brown earth, sand, white pumice and vulcanic asphalt are the ones that would be most fitting to start).

>>96087378
4# is still too bright?

>>96087516
Kinda depends on what you're going for I guess. Desert sand is not as bright and yellowish as beach sand though.

>>96087449
yes - basing / shading is always fun, highlighting / layering is tedious.

>>96087543
I could apply rust or similar orange-like wash but I'm honestly not sure. I actually wanted to have some variety of options since I have to decorate ~38 bases now.

>>96087570
basecoating is the shit part, everything else gets done in half the time and produces visibly pleasing results for instant gratification.

>>96079847
>>96081991
Much appreciated

>>96087449
I just get tired on models I don't like and need a lot of work (vehicles) so I get lazy on the last details, but I try to finish everything, albeit very slowly

>>96087101
Looking nice!

>>96087570
I thought it was universally agreed upon that basecoating is the boring and tedious part

>>96087851
>>96087824
basecoating is a clear upgrade and makes a model look mostly complete. Everything is just icing on the cake and tedious.

>>96087868
you're literally opposite to me. The "icing on the cake" is the part that makes the model look real,and cool. Weathering, highlights, tiny details. Basecoating alone makes it look like a lego figure and shit AND it takes a load of time where you're just mindlessly painting 100 leather belts brown instead of actually making any decisions like you would be when weathering or highlighting or whatever.

>>96087895
suit yourself, filling out a recently primed model with color is satisfying to me.

About bases, I honestly don't understand those instruction videos. They apply pastes, specific paint solutions, actual rocks, etc - and then prime it. Why? Isn't this the whole point of using terrain pastes to have base in color and shape/consistency you already need?

>>96087958
If it's already what you need, don't paint it.

>>96087958
Natural rocks and dirt look out of place next to painted miniatures.

>>96087449
I can't "finish" my minis bc I can't do highlights

>>96087225
That doesn't necessarily matter - pic is from the Black Desert in Egypt, the sand there is a drastically different color from the rock. Also, I want to say that minute crystals can have a different appearance to the host rock due to differences in refraction/reflection/etc.

>>96087101
These are great, such a nice breath of fresh air to see scales here.
>>96087449
I am physically unable to start painting another mini before I finish the one I'm working on.

>>96087101
Love them, but I think some weathering would fit them nice!

Basecoating is boring and tedious because you're just coloring in and the end result is bland and boring
Shading is boring and tedious because acrylic washes are doodoo and oil washes take ages to dry
Layering and highlighting is boring and tedious because you have to paint at least 2 more colors on top of each material with tiny lines and fine brushes all scrunched up to brace against the shakiness
Blending/glazing is boring and tedious because it takes a 100 layers to smooth out a single transition
Weathering is boring and tedious because after you're close to being done you have to go back and do more work and add a bunch of effects, bells and whistles across the minis in such a way to make it look both realistic and not overdone
Basing is boring and tedious because you're just repeating the same 2-4 steps a dozen times
Assembling is boring and tedious because you're just following instructions and going through same motions without much creative input
Priming/varnishing is boring and tedious because you just blast minis with a rattle can/airbrush and then watch the paint dry

I think I might just be burnt out

>>96087449
I struggle to get started, especially with batch painting. When the highlights start to go on and the mini really starts to feel alive that's the good moment that makes it all worth it.

>>96088166
Yeah don't force yourself if it's not fun. I had a 6 month break this winter myself.

Finished my americans for the bolt action starter set. Happy the overall result, but holy hell Warlord Games makes some dumb looking faces.

>>96088354
I think that WWII minis overall have funny looking faces.

Also, good job out there.

Cut about 7 sheets of 0,5mm galvanised for my mini boxes, gonna roughen them up then scratch them so the epoxy can stick.

Doing an addition to my old viking marines for the elite unit collab, thoughts on the backpack banners are they too big?

First time using Milliput. So much easier than greenstuff/greystuff. Do I really need to wear gloves though?
>>96080028
I hope you don't paint your whole army to this quality, you'll never be done
>>96081836
Very Admech. Conversions like these are what 40k is really about

This is P3's new metallics. Isn't this revolutionary?

>>96090028
lookin good

>>96090028
>I hope you don't paint your whole army to this quality, you'll never be done
I do, actually. I have like ~800 points of tsons painted like that. I don't play tabletop though so it's not like I'm in a hurry or anything. Nice sculpting work, btw.

>>96079465
Can you post a picture of the articulated hand on sprue?

>>96090128
Maybe? I've seen similar results with Greenstuff World's pigments. They're just a hassle to mix.

I know Vallejo Metal is great too but I don't remember if they have a good gold.

>>96090128
still looks a little bit grainy but I guess gold is harder to get smooth

>>96090128
I like how the mini on the right is slightly out of focus so it automatically looks worse. I'm sure it's not intentional or anything.

>>96090446
quick google image, i don't know what kit it is, i saw it on some peachy video

>>96088123
sometimes reality doesn't look realistic.

>>96090509
>I know Vallejo Metal is great too but I don't remember if they have a good gold.
they dont, its too greenish and pale, they also have just one copper

you can make do if you follow vince's advice and mix gold+copper+gsw gold pigment, the result while it may be realistic is a bit more desaturated than usual gold colors, i wouldn't recomend it
pic rel is that mix with a very thin vallejo smoke (iirc) wash on it

Bottle of green stuff color change somehow exploded so now it looks like my desk has an oil slick

>>96090662
Looks good. I like the stone.
>>96090723
Should have posted a pic of that instead.

>>96090723
You don't own anything. You're homeless.

>>96087836
>>96088132
>>96088149
Thank you, anons!
This is for Chain of command so not really scale models, just heavily inspired by them.
Weathering comes tomorrow or the day after, hopefully.

>>96090596
Looks like one of "Master Grades" (1/100 scale, around 14-15cm), could be Jesta. Only few of them have articulated hands like that, mostly because their audience actually complain about painting such movable elements.

>>96090916
>actually complain about painting such movable elements.
Well, that and they typically have really poor grip. You very quickly end up with rifles sagging down on the shelf

>>96090596
>>96090916
they made these in 1/100 and eventually 1/144 for a while, they were cool but evidently were finnicky and because they were made of softer plastic than the rest of the kit would struggle to hold accessories(or primer yeah) as well as the normal stuff, i think theyve gone back to palms with a posable thumb/swappable 4 finger block set up

>>96090752
>Looks good. I like the stone.
ty, here is finished

>>96090567
I don't think they're cheating. The technology is real but more expensive obviously. Regular metallics have aliminium flakes sealed in a polymer with micah and dye. The problem with this way is that the flakes will start separating from the color if you dilute it too much. With their method the flake is dyed then sealed in a polymer which they claim gives more vibrant color and you can't wash the flakes out when you dilute the paint.

>>96091109
>Regular metallics have aliminium flakes sealed in a polymer with micah and dye.
correction: flakes are sealed in polymer then mixed with micah and dye.

Who the fuck is Micah

>>96091140
HES A GOT DAYUM SNAKE

How do I use milliput more effectively I know for greenstuff people say combine then let it sit for a while then sculpt is it the same deal with milliput?

>>96090662
You can just base with a Brown then use Vallejo Gold it comes out really nice

>>96076966 (OP)
ok, is there a designated whining thread for painting?

>>96092487
You're in it.

>>96092605
i whined about this earlier, but i can't get vallejo ice yellow to distribute evenly no matter how thin. is there a way to improve its distribution? could it be my painting technique/drying too quick because of room temp? bottom left leg is the "finished" armour plate with the problem

Trying to haul ass and finish this Slaughterbound and an MoE before my first GT this weekend.

>>96092650
Yellow paints are typically thick or have poor coverage. Especially over black. Never paint yellow over black.

>>96092605
This has happened to me enough times I developed a habit of putting any bottle that needs to stay open far out of the way of a wayward elbow or palm. It makes using them slower but I've yet to knock another one over.

>>96092650
>Bright yellow over black
Stop. It's a mistake we all have to make, but you've made it now, so you never have to do it again. If you want a bright yellow, prime in white or even grey. If you want to paint over black, you need to work up to the yellow. Start with browns/reds and work up to orange/pink and then onto yellow.

>>96092898
>any bottle that needs to stay open
Don't you have a palette?

finished a sideline fan

>>96091518
From my experience milliput is not great for sculpting, it's just cheap, good to fill holes and such. This anon >>96090028
is actually quite skilled and not the norm.

>>96093315
Lips are great, but gotta thin down that pink glaze for the joints.

>>96093315
How did you paint those eyes? Did you force an optical illusion of sorts by painting the right corner of the left eye as a highlight of the brow?

>>96093631
it's white for the eye and then a dot / or rather thin line/oval (to prevent the googly eye look) of black.

I do all my eyes that way.

>>96093475
I might need to glaze over those.

>>96093427
I tried green stuff but Im not a fan I dont like how I cant really sand it so thats why I want to give miliput a chance

>>96093797
>I might need to glaze over those.
Yeah just do the opposite now. Just run a green glaze over them to bring it down. Same result.

I am not enjoying assembling or painting these guys.

>>96094222
Cute fingers. Would put inside.

>>96094236
Thanks, friend.

>>96094222
Whys that, it looks like a cool mini

>>96094346
The way they've separated the parts for assembly makes them a huge pain to put together and leaves stupid connection lines I don't know how to avoid well (you can see on the helmet lines and the top of the cloak). As for painting, the main thing I hated was that the leather parts on the horse have WAY less defined sections/lines that you would think. Makes it so fucking hard to paint it properly because they blend into the fur without defining where they're supposed to end.

>>96093801
Go for it, it's useful to have anyway and doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

>>96094222
Checked, I'm about to know real pain myself

>>96094556
Good luck

Barrow Guard Wip :) going for a snowy base

Having airbrush troubles and it's really getting me upset

>master g233 airbrush
>compressor with tank
>starts spraying very weakly one day
>disassemble, clean it with acetone, leave it in water
>try it again next day
>same issue
>order a new chinesium .5mm needle and nozzle since all of the issues I've ever had with my airbrush stem from nozzle clogs
>same issue with brand new needle and nozzle
>loosen nozzle cap by a lot and it starts to spray much harder
>create a mini rainbow over my desk with how much water it's spraying at strong pressure
>screw nozzle cap back on and it's back to spraying like somebody is choking it

Does ANYONE know what the issue could be? I am trying to order from my usual Hobby shop but they're OOS on the pieces I normally get. I think it might be some issue with the nozzle cap. I have been using .5mm needles for about a year but this time I'm going to buy a smaller size, nozzle, and nozzle cap. I don't know if this will work but I'm trying to troubleshoot and the pieces are cheap enough that I don't care. I know this is a commonly recommended airbrush so I'm hoping I'm having a problem that some experts can help me with.


Pic rel is the airbrush spraying at an angle. I know the caps are off but it was behaving the same way with them on. I hope you can see the water shooting upward.

>>96079092
I don't like the scheme but it reminds me of the old brown bionicles so I love it now

>>96087895
>>96087868
>>96087851
>>96087570
I personally find basecoating kind of boring, but cleaning up the mistakes is even more so because you end up making more mistakes and you go back and forth. Highlighting is my favorite part cause the model really comes to life

>>96094968
No idea. I think you're screwed. Sorry. It's a generic chinese airbrush from a really opaque company that won't even disclose contact detailts or where which country they're from, so yeah. You should have bought Japanese/American/German

If you're really desperate then maybe try send this guy an email. His youtube channel has a lot of guides on airbrushing so maybe he is willing to help you. Just disclose early on that it appears to be a cheap chinese one.

>>96095015
Yeah not even their amazon profile will disclose any contact details. This is the future we chose by outsourcing everything to china.

Kinda off topic but, what's your opinion about AI animating figurines ?
Still cant figures if people are actively against AI in general, or in some cases, or not at all...
App used here is call Nauk Nauk.

>>96095111
I think anon said it really well

>>96095111
What exactly is the purpose of this, though? I'm not actively against AI if it looks acceptable and you're just having fun with it. Also the fact that the hand holding his weapon turns into a human hand towards the end of this animation is pretty triggering

>>96095111
Pointless waste of huge resources for producing another, God forgive me for even using this word, slop. Aside from what >>96095156 said and, as you pointed out, whole thing being off topic, I cannot help but to draw similarities to old Dune explanation for Butlerian Jihad - machines essentially enslaving people by taking away need and ability to think and create on your own. Fuck AI.

>>96095199
>machines essentially enslaving people by taking away need and ability to think and create on your own. Fuck AI.

It's sick that this is supposed to be some radical idea. Especially when it comes to things like art. Why hell should a machine generate this for us?

>>96095111
i have no feelings about ai animating figurines
but i hate you personally anon.
you know this has nothing to do with /wip/, you clearly dont even give a shit about the quality of the 'animation', you're a child playing with a new toy demanding everyone look at the new toy.
fuck off back to /g/ you've never painted a mini, or participated in a tabletop RPG.
stop trying to insert your dogshit obsession with ai generation into every hobby to try and legitimize it.

>>96095244
Harsh.

>>96095261
mate, i'm sick of seeing retards dropping into threads with a barely related image and a not related question.
theERP coomers do it, the fucking nogames larpers do it, and now the AI brainlets are doing it too.
make a thread
it'll get deleted
because its not even slightly /tg/

>>96095242
>Why hell should a machine generate this for us?
because somewhere a shareholder gets value and line goes up
it doesn't need to be interesting or useful, or efficient, or even real

somewhere in the path to automation making unwanted work unnecesary capitalism gets in the way to ensure you can't have nice things

Pulled my back out like a dickhead, sitting down on the hobby chair is too painful so I'll have to give this week a miss. Hole you anons are getting a good session in today

>>96092846
that purple guy from dragging balls see

Do you think it would make sense to just glue him to black base, without additional stuff? I mean, box art had his roof going out of sand but I like to imagine him rather standing on actual rooftop.

>>96095131
Those LARPs as epic badass knowers are always so cringe.

>>96095290
I think it's fun. A good artist will always stand out. But for some regular people a tool like above that can make a short and fun gif or webm from any picture is just a fun gadget. Could a professional animator do it better. Sure. But it's just not realistic that anon would pay anyone to do this with his skaven warrior picture. But now he has that option, probably for free in some trial version even.

>>96095686
a fun tool for sure, im not arguing agains casual use, just about replacing certain jobs

>But it's just not realistic that anon would pay anyone to do this with his skaven warrior picture. But now he has that option, probably for free in some trial version even.
but just because companies are burning money left and right, it would be FAR cheaper to pay someone if you had to pay the real price of AI, and it's no coming down in the near future, quite the contrary

>>96095634
What's your highest level of education?

>>96095915
I have a PhD in "being able to tell when some faggot is full of shit on 4chan"logy

>>96095261
... but fair.

here's a lone word bearer I'm working on

>>96095015
>>96095015
>>96095045
really? I did lots of research before buying it and anons here recommended it as well. It has really high reviews on amazon and noted for it's versatility and ease of finding replacement parts.

I think it's a quite simple fix if I can figure it out, but that's my issue exactly: diagnosing the problem. It's been fine for over a year and the only clogging I've seen is because I was a lazy fuck that didn't want to stop to clean it mid-session.

Another basing question - I tried cutting pieces of wooden stick to imitate floor panels but couldn't cut some at edges. Do you think it won't be that much visible once everything is painted in wooden color?

>>96094968
>master g233 airbrush
buy a real brush airbrush from a reputable manufacturer. this is something where quality of components actually matters quite a bit.

>>96095244
It was not that deep, breath by your nostrils for a change.

>>96095973
The grain is the wrong way.

>>96094968
there's no way to help you without seeing the thing
it's always dissasemble, clean, check seals, check air and paint paths, even the cheapest chinesium airbrushes work mostly fine, i had one for many years, other than a manufacturing defect they are pretty sturdy, its a very simple mechanism really, there's like 3 moving parts

also airbrushes aren't supposed to work without the cap like in your pic

>>96095956
it's 2025, 99% of amazon reviews are fake/paid for/bot/retards or all of the above

>>96076966 (OP)
I think I'm done with this part of freehands.

>>96096270
Here's the frontal.

>>96096289
Whoops >>96096270

>>96096270
>>96096300
ridiculous in a good way

>>96096195
So, what now? I cannot pull it out anymore, it's rigid.

>>96096370
I dunno, either change it or do it differently for the next one.. or don't.

>>96096370
you can probably cut them or sand them to oblivion, but don't bother, paint them thick to hide the graind and freehand it back in the correct direction, or just keep it and learn from it

>>96095973
Make your own wood grain with the back of a hobby knife, pic related.

>>96095111
I think you should fuck off back to your containment thread.

What's a quick black leather recipe for belts and stuff?

>>96096270
>>96096300
Absolutely gorgeous.

>>96097847
all you need is a dark black and highlight with grey. a bit of drybrushing with a slightly different shade of grey will give a weathered look

i painted a cheerleqder for my bf startig school soon

i think varnishing darkened the whites of her eyes :’( fml but still i hope it is good and he likes it yes…

i didnt even need to varnish considering the case its in i suppose my mistake

Working on my magos, he's a bit too purple, how to make the lenses stand out more?

>>96086466
>>96086586
Kill yourself, asap.

>>96098296
Mald

>>96076966 (OP)
I keep seeing people use fiberglass pens to smooth out areas they've sanded/carved details from and it seems a lot more convenient than trying to work a sanding stick in
But since it's fiberglass do you need to wear a respirator/gloves when handling it? The people in the videos don't but sloptuber retards also airbrush enamels without PPE so I trust that as far as I can throw it

>>96099020
>I keep seeing people use fiberglass pens
Where do you even see them? Is this a new sloptuber thing I missed or something?

>>96099152
youtube kitbashing tutorials

>>96091107
Nice base cum

>>96090723
Ngl I thought this was a 40k edit by the thumbnail

Anybody here uses glaze medium? I have ak glaze medium and want to fix some spots where I let acrylic wash pool by glazing over it.
Generally you 50/50 mix glaze medium with paint right?

>>96099444
>50/50
I think that's what manufacturers recommend, yeah. I usually do one drop each of thinner, water, glaze medium and paint but I'm autistic about getting smooth results so don't use it as reference.

>>96099020
If you look at the packaging yes, they are super gross. Covered with do not touch with naked skin, wear eye pro, etc.
There are some way safer fine diamond/ceramic rods that go in mechanical pencil holders.
When in doubt, check out Japanese model kit support goods companies for clever materials science tech adapted to miniature use.

>>96098062
Look alright. That kiss looks kinda gross though, did you switch your lipstick with jelly?

>>96096270
>>96096300
What tabletop game do you play with this?

>>96098062
Gay

>>96094895
I'm doing snow too. What are you using?
Looks like you forgot totrim off some sprue under the tip of the helmet wing

>>96099817
Are you that little bitch that snitched to the teacher when we were running in the hallways?

>>96099020
I had a a neighbour who did fiberglass stuff as a side hussle. He never wore much for protection. Sometimes I saw him with nothing more than jean shorts and a paper mask. He died of cancer in his late 40s.

>>96099817
A game where you move craft paint bottles and poorly painted minis around a board

>>96099817
Exquisite bait.

>>96099504
Alright thanks! I’m trying to gradually cover up some brown wash pooling I failed to notice.

>>96099910
>>96099937
>>96099943
I'm going to assume this means it is not for a game.

>>96099927
My grandpa smoked since he was 10 and died in his 90's.

>>96090128
Scam.
>captcha:JWGVP

>>96100444
nta but similar story with my family. But fiberglass is like breathing in tiny razor blades and not to be compared to smoking tobacco cigarettes. Fucks your lungs up really good. You need to use a respirator when working with that shit or you will die younger than supposed to.

>>96100570
but the original questioner was talking about a fiberglass pen, which I doubt gives off any shavings/needs any protection. But you were replying to someone who worked with fiberglass in general. In which case, yes, please use protection dear god.

Spilled some paint thinner on this guys leg, Is it easy enough to just brush some primer on and then redo the part or will I have to do something more drastic?

>>96101023
I was gonna suggest snapping the leg off and stripping, but then I see that huge pube on his groin you've primed over and all the gaps in the primer and crusty texture. I think makybe strip the whole thing.

>>96076966 (OP)
Is there a way to figure out which colors were used to make the red and gold? I want to recreate this.

How much basing coherency do you go for? I know most tend to base whole armies the same way, but would basing based on squads or individual characters be stupid?

>>96101023
I would continue to work on the edges, massage or brush off, to make sure all the affected paint is gone, then do a brush on myself.

>>96101159
I mean you can just ask him.

>>96101214
The concept of basing miniatures is stupid unless you somehow coordinate them with all the people you play with.
Just do what you think looks good and don’t put too much thinking into it.

>>96093801
If you mix the two about 60/40 milliput to GS and then let it cure for a few minutes, you get a much stiffer mix that's easier to sculpt and still sands well.

>>96100570
FDM is similar to this, btw. Prime and paint that shit ASAP. SLA smells nasty but all of the scary stuff in 3d printing comes from FDM.

>>96101214
I do a simple textured resin base (generally grass or cracked mud) and just drybrush it, so whole armies match exactly.

>>96101073
>pube on his groin you've primed over and all the gaps in the primer and crusty texture
that's just "the landlord special" paint scheme

>>96101864
>tfw the rust and mold starts to peel through the paint on your mini

>>96101023
Work with it, use it as weathering or damage from something.

>>96101214
if you make it cohesive it can work, like having a unit with grass and rocks and another with just rocks or just grass
if you do one with desert and another with dark mud or grass it will look off
with characters you can have more leeway if they dont usually integrate in an unit, like a lone mage you can put him on some cobbles as if he's on a tower unlike the rest of the army who would be in the field

for big stuff like charriots, flying units an the like you can go wild, again, as long as its cohesive

>>96088390
He'll go to Valhalla a hero
>>96096370
That's what she said

Done with the Black Coach.

>>96102903
GSW fluo inks are fun

>>96102903
>>96102909
This is pretty cool, not gonna lie

Alright, it might be stupid question but - since dried herbs can be used successfully as leaves imitations, could I use dried paprika powder as red desert dust imitation? Or it sounds like bad idea?

>>96103057
shit idea, literally just use pigment.

>>96103066
Paprika powder is a lot cheaper however.

>>96103057
>>96103069
You cant realy bind them I think, use pigments. Also you risk burning your eyes everytime you touch your models

>>96103069
if you're that bothered over the cost of pigments you can grind up pastels yourself

>>96102909
This is what my apartment looks like.

>>96103200
Why is that, anon?

>>96103212
Cum

>>96102903
Probably the only kind of minis where purple and green can work well together, well done.

>>96103449
It would also look good on a late 80s/early 90s sportswear wearing mini.

Which paint brand makes an actual good white acrylic with good coverage?

>>96104363
GW Corax White :-)

>>96104363
sorry, not gonna tell you, I'm gatekeeping this knowledge all for myself

Anybody tried real blood as an effect on models? Was thinking of cutting open my hand for my new WE box.

>>96104363
pro acryl bold titanium white is often mentioned, also ak white

i wouldn't know i never use pure white

>>96104363
I haven't found "good" but
The AK intense white is fine but bubbly
The Vallejo game color white is less bubbly but very thin.

>>96104400
???
real dried blood turns black

>>96104425
noooo you don't get it, I'm an edgy 15yo and it would've been so ebin

sybau and tell me the skin tone with best coverage, no nigs ty

Anyone else love the idea of a resin printer but don't want the toxicity risk?
I don't understand how the general public can be trusted to handle it safely.

>>96104550
You can buy a lot more toxic shit with just your cleaning supplies.
You can also make explosives with them.
Maybe stop being a fag?

You can also get your shit printed by some third party business.

>>96104550
yes, but i also cant stand the print lines

>>96104550
Don't go overboard, just take some precautions and you'll be fine. You'll get more toxic shit in your lungs from living in a city.

>>96104550
No enclosure, no ventilation, no mask, no gloves and I'm doing just fine after years.

>>96104544
sneed's skin and fill-in

>>96104550
Wear a mask (With vapor catridges)
FDM is dogshit for minis, sorry

>>96104648
wtf

>>96104648
>i never used seatbelt or helmets and never had any problem

>>96104648
>literally read half an hour ago on reddit about someone that became immediately sensitive

>>96104932
you're not in 40kg, you don't need to pretend here

>>96104892
Not that I agree with that guy, but that redditor was obviously a quivering pussy from the start.

>>96104985
>redditor
>pussy
comes with the territory.

>>96104363
suart semple

>>96104942
Is another general thread on 4chan some kind of illicit territory for you?

>>96104363
>>96104395
I do actually use that, it's not bad at all

in pic rel I painted that white over a messy mix of grey and black (I started basecoating the pauldron black before remembering I wanted it white); it's corax white thinned with acrylic white ink, 2-3 thin coats.

>>96104363
You're supposed to work your way up from something like a blue-grey or ivory and save your pure white for highest highlights. I didn't yet have a chance to try proacryls white but I'd wager even that might have trouble smoothly covering over, say, pure black. I really like doing AK dark blue grey(which covers very well) - AK blue grey - white. The result is this nice, cold white with blueish shadows

Trying various types of desert-like terrain, would you guys use brown or rust wash here?

>>96105575
rust

>>96105605
Okay, thanks. I try to keep bases varied since I have to do a lot at once. I also did "lighter" version, these are after wash but before drybrushing.

current progress with rohan

>>96106259
starting to look good, the green is very nice

>>96104752
I also do not wear a seatbelt or helmets
Seatbelt is proven to be worse than ragdoll, 5 point harness or nothing, cross chest lap belts are a danger to your internals.

>>96106259
thanks!

its literally just krylon emerald green. hopefully the final matte finish will cancel out the gloss, but I like the color!

>>96106351
>>96106272

>>96104363
vallejo model color white

>>96104363
I use model color sky grey
It's a cooler white but it has such great coverage, I can do it over black, that you could hit with a brighter white after

>>96105338
Also found an older pic of that mix over light grey (1 coat)

>>96106762
Well damn, this actually looks nice. Was I just unlucky with my corax or something? It always applied unevenly for me and the consistency was always off no matter how much I thinned it. Maybe it's the ink that's helping a lot?

fresh bread
>>96106935
>>96106935
>>96106935

>>96106897
>Maybe it's the ink that's helping a lot?

Oh yes it most definitely helps. Corax white in my experience makes for a good paint to mix the ink with, definitely better than my other current white (AK 3rd gen white) which has some weird sticky consistency to it and is a bit of a bitch to work with, so I just use it for really small highlights (ex dots on lenses)

Then again that is a pure titanium white, they are notoriously more difficult than off-whites like corax white (which is a very bright grey)