Post elves, talk about elves, share your elf projects

Well anon, you first.

>>96085839 (OP)
Working on a space opera where "Elves" appear in the distant future. They're very obviously like Earth's concept of Elves--and not even the mythological ones, but like pop culture Elves. Their distant hidden homeworlds are all named shit like Atlantis and Avalon and Agartha and Thule. It's an obvious psyop, they're almost certainly some kind of shapeshifters trying to trick humans into liking them, but they're good allies (so far) so everyone just goes with it.

>>96085904
Working up to do a rangers of shadowdeep playthrough, either solo or at the club if I can find interested parties so that will obviously have elves as the player characters

I'm also looking to continue working on these napoleonic elves, basically just a hobby project thus far but I have some ideas about maybe trying out sharpe practice with them eventually. Next step now will be getting some cavalry done.

Finished up a small dark elf fleet for man'o'war too recently, pretty fun if overpowered faction.

>>96085839 (OP)
Based fellow Pirotess enjoyer.

>>96086053
Well, can't help you with miniature stuff, so good luck with that.

>>96086107
Pirotess is a wonder of the universe

>>96086155
No RPGs with elves for me currently, just some vague ideas

>>96085910
strangely wholesome that humanity clearly knows it's skinwalkers but plays along with in anyway

>>96086053
That’s a neat idea, also working on a rangers collection

>>96085910
>Oh noooo the aliens are gaslighting us by turning into hot elf girls nooooo

Maedhros.

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>>96089612
It's perfect for me since I like printing out one-off minis I find, but have a hard time finding use for.
Also once you got a collection of the monsters it's easy to run other similar games and RPGs

>>96085839 (OP)
Anyone got viking elves?

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>>96089997
most vikings would have been simple farmers

>>96089769
He deserved better. Fuck Morgoth.

I kinda feel like doing some sort of High/Noble elf miniatures project. I just wish GW would do plastic reboots for Rivendell LOTR elves and High Elf core infantry in TOW/WHFB.

>>96085904
Why are you this faggot?

>>96085839 (OP)
was making a homebrew version of basicRPG where humans are both race and a class, and elves are the assumed default

God, I love elves. Every passing year, I feel my love becoming deeper. It's not a fetish anymore, it's an obsession. If a game doesn't have elves, I don't want to know about it!

>>96085839 (OP)
Played any traditional games with elves?

>>96085839 (OP)
My elves are spit into three main types from the original civilization.
First (or High I suppose) are the original royal family. They have the best lands, the best castles and the most kickass magic. They are THE original civilization on planet and with the research they have done on the variety of artifacts that litter the continent could be compared to the Asari from mass effect. They're still crippled by the rebellion of....
The Banished (or Dark Elves if it helps) who were the noble families of the original civilization. All the intrigue at court finally got to them and 80% of the noble families and their retainers etc decided that they could do a better job and started a massive civil war. They were 'winning' their way straight into defeat (through massive casualties) when they created the Orcs who turned the tide in favour of the Banished... and then ate shit when the orcs managed to rebel and bug out with the help of....
The Wild Elves (Wood elves) who are the largest of the three faction and represent the common man and woman of the elves. The commoners/civilians took one look at the conflict they were getting forcibly drafted for (to both sides) and said 'fuck that' and helped the orcs rebel to get both of them out from under the heels of the other two. Unfortunately as soon as they were established they promptly balkanized and are busy skirmishing with each other and kind of act like back country hicks... except every tree has ten bows in it if you start antagonizing them.

All three are regional powers and the war between the First and the Banished is still simmering away thousands of years later.
There is a fourth group of elves... technically... but its almost better to say that they were made/manufactured rather than being born. They exist in self imposed exile on an island but they cannot suppress the wanderlust that occasionally gets a few of them and they escape to the mainland where usually it doesn't end well for them.

>>96093011
Most people on this board play a D&D or Warhammer type game, it's the baseline assumption. But since it matters so much to you, go first. Explain, in detail and with examples, how elves have affected your home game.

Seems like elf MCs have been on the rise in anime. There's a new anime where the main character is an elf reporter. I do dig the blend of a late 1930's world with medieval fantasy.

>>96093618
I do like my schizotech.

>>96093618
>There's a new anime where the main character is an elf reporter.
It blows my mind that you need to be more specific about which one you mean.

I commissioned this elf!

>>96093706
very nice, is it an character in a game?

>>96093702
elves excel at so many things it only makes sense they would be depicted doing various jobs

>>96093618
>elf MCs
Call me back when it's not an anime girl with pointy ears.

I guess we got one already.

>>96093706
CUTE! What is she?

>>96094140
ewwwww! This is a comfy thread! Get out coomer! OUT OUT!!!

>>96094224
>Get out coomer!
"Comfy" is pretty much just a codeword for a waifufag image dump.

do half-elves count?
almost all my characters are half-elves

>>96094324
People post slop, anime and manga, video games in these threads.
Nobody is going to stop you.

Time for a happy elf song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxliJlqdvZQ

>>96094324
why do you play half-elves? What do you like so much about them? Do you have any favorite character backgrounds or traits you like to combine them with?
You can consider pic related an half-elf for the purposes of this discussion

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>>96094331
Deedo and Piro statblock!
I wonder if you can actually move like they do in the anime by RAW in sword world

NotDeed a cute

>>96092468
>and elves are the assumed default
Do you change anything about their mechanics?
I guess humans already received some change, but this isn't the human thread.
I don't know basicRPG, but I wonder if you would need to change something about them if you make them the default choice.

>>96085839 (OP)
In my setting there is a chain of volcanic/jungle islands where one of the elven cultures lives. The villages and port towns have contact with humans and are relaxed safe places with a strong trade economy. The jungles are kept dangerous intentionally so that their warriors don't lose their edge and to keep outsiders away from sacred groves. The men mainly hunt and fight with spears and everyone wears hand made patterned clothing. This sub-race of elves does not live as long as high elves or wood elves.

space elves are fine too

Abh were never elves.

>>96094413
The wood elves live in a massive old growth forest on the central continent. They have the largest population of any of the elven cultures. They are isolationist and militaristic. Their borders are guarded by "ranger companies" that surround anyone who enters their forest. Their movement is masked by strong gusts of wind blowing you away from their territory. They will appear all around you on the branches of trees wielding bows and wearing armor, hand crafted wooden masks, and swirling green cloaks.

>>96094447
>Their movement is masked by strong gusts of wind blowing you away from their territory
Is this in some way reflected mechanically? For their units/characters.

>>96094466
It's magic that you have to roll a saving throw to resist. You would have to have extremely high perception to see or hear them before they wanted you to. mechanically they just really high level. The two times my players encountered them they were too low level to resist their demands. They basically showed up and told the party to fuck off and so they did.

>>96094447
The high elves are a nearly extinct race of conquerors. They are the progenitors of all elven kind and can live indefinitely. when they become extremely old they become mentally unstable. Their whole culture has fallen from a globe spanning empire to just a handful of warlords because of their descent madness.

>>96094511
I guess none of your players plays an elf. A shame.

>>96094522
Not in the current game. We have a dwarf and 4 humans. If we started the campaign at low level and they wanted to be a wood elf then they wouldn't be able to be member of a ranger company. They would just be some elf from the general population of wood elves. Being a Ranger is basically like being a highly trained member of the military.

>>96093706
That's a pretty elf!

>>96094331
Why are Elves so great?

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>>96094564
Strong thematic and narrative core while still being extremely flexible, which shows when you look at how different elves can be from setting to setting.
Their abilities and strengths almost always make them fun characters to play, and yet still flexible enough to not be confined to a niche.
In their respective settings, they are often very important figures, especially in the settings past, having done all manners of great and terrible deeds, laying down the foundation on how the world is in the present shape.

>>96090255
appearently they farmed on iceland back then or was it greenland?
mustve been quite hot back then either way

>>96094704
The Vinland Saga and Erik the Red is an interesting tale. And yes, you could farm on the coast of Greenland at some point. Which is where it got the name from. They discovered the continent, found green shores, and called it Greenland.
There is this idea that people called Iceland this inhospitable name, because they wanted less people to come over. Which isn't entirely true. But apparently, the first settlers had a hard time in Iceland and just saw snow and glaciers, which is where it got its name from.

>>96094704
sounds like human driven climate change denier

Idea about a Cyberpunk2020/RED scenario

>Night City
>Nightclub owned by European Goldenkids (I don't remember the name and I haven't Eurosource manual under my hands), exotics called the "Elves" due to their pointed ears and other tons of faishonware.
>Chit-chat says Elves are rich bastards that live in complete decadence, arriving to make blood bath for upgrading their secret cyberware. Secret Cyberware by Biotechnica and other Euro Corporations to guarantee a infinite youth and alluring body.
>The German Not!Cyber!Olga is the mistress of the Night Club, dressed with skimpy latex clothes, dominant allure. (Not!Cyber!Chloe is her bodyguard an half-Philippine-Dutch girl. Not!Cyber!Mail is a young bounty hunter from Glasgow... and go on...)
>The Nightclub has a decadent allure with slow and hypnotic music, tons of candles those release a light hallucinogen drug, marble statues in Neo-Classical Status, giant harps and cellos shaped like naked man and women, private rooms where the decadence arrives to high levels between orgies or bloody rites.
>These rich and annoyed elves are involved in shady activities (smuggling of illegal cyberware; trafficking of people abducted from the Combat Zone and reduced as slaves through drugs or brian impants; smuggling of hallucinogen drugs; backdoor for shady activities from Eurocorps like Biotechnica and Ubermensch). However, they sell an buy gossip and information because knowledge is everything.

>>96094704
>>96094724
Greenland settlements were abandoned by scandinavians in the 1400s IIRC, but Iceland was self-sustaining. You can still farm and keep livestock even if it's a very poor yield if you do it for sustenance and of course Icelanders would fish a lot.

Obviously the farm would be more successful if you kept the farmstead elf happy as well, and fail miserably if you pissed him off

>>96095033
featuring Chloe and Olga is always morally correct

>>96094564
Fat-eared mutt's need not apply.

In my setting high elves drive Italian sports cars and motorcycles cause an Elf on a Ducati Monster is thematically perfect

>>96094331
How is she getting her lute to make accordion noises?

>>96095849
Fat eared mischlings are cute!

need to be the dwarf

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>>96096438
>the most racist dwarf and his gf

>>96096468
me on the left

>female elf x [not-elf] male
Miss me with that overdone garbage.

>>96096502
>Miss me with that overdone garbage.
no, im not elven thats why

>>96096507
What kind of limp respond is that?

>>96096525
What kind of limp respond is this response?

>>96095885
how do they deal with all the wear and mechanical issues

>>96093618
Maybe the Japs will make a fantasy that sucks less ass. Maybe.

Why do elven women prefer human males?

Welp, the dwarfs are here.

I'm seriously starting to think that I'm going to report any Elf "slop" as a spam. It was nice the first 50th times, but now it just kinda clogs these threads with shitty images that you can't save or use for fucking anything. Same with fags spamming off-topic shit.

>>96096773
They have, unfortunately, stopped caring about that.

>>96096598
Fix it, Italian sports vehicles are perfect for Elves because they're a blend of form, function, but not over engineered

>>96096663
If that is supposed to be Elaith Craulnober, then it's a weird one, because Forgotten Realms always had an even spread with plenty of male elf and female human couples.
Of course, it's missing context that you probably won't provide, but these other two characters obviously just want to make him angry.

>>96096971
Isn't this the same setting where dwarves capture and rape human women?

>>96096508
>>96096515
>>96096525
I know where this is going.

>>96094415
they absolutely are, I've been wanting to do a space opera with elves divided up into subraces depending on how far from the mainline "high" elves they've colonized.
So you got the really ancient high elf civilization, then younger and younger elf civilizations depending on how far from the high elf home system you go.

Of course I don't really like monocultures so I haven't really gotten a gimmick for the different types of elves except that they look different and their major states have different political standpoints depending on culture and their galactic neighbors.

Genned pic related as a member of one of the younger elf types (only a thousand or so years old) that are still expansionists and settle new planets, with or without previous inhabitants which tends to put them into conflict with various other species

Beard elf.

>>96096785
kek funny pic
i love drawn/photoshopped fantasy versions of memes like those wizard vs knights memes.

>>96092682
These are my elves, are you still in?

Also I need more sci-fi elves

>>96085839 (OP)
im angry about elves

>>96098100
Yes, I would like to hear more about your religion.

>>96094079
It's an npc. The party mostly grew up in a guild and they had others in their "class" so I've gotten art of their guild mates for when they show up across the campaign doing their own stuff as their own parties. I give a big quest board of quests for the player party to pick from, then I take the rest of the quests and do some rolls to see how other hero parties did trying to complete them.
IE one of the first boards had a high-challenge quest the party decided to not take so I had one of their class-mate parties take it on and they ended up barely surviving.

>>96094215
Ranger mostly, her heroic gimmick is her eyes being ridiculously sharp and good at aiming. Nothing too unique but she's not meant to steal the spotlight much, just be an average decent hero

>>96094543
Thank

I also got this one, another of their guildmates. She infuses her will (hero powers) into her sword to slice and dice extra good.

>>96085839 (OP)
if only the exodites would get expanded on in 40k, need some dark skinned elves

>>96098100
>>96098204
i want more of the second to the left for obvious reasons

>>96093706
I recognize this color scheme!

>>96098301
All I have for you, I'm afraid.

>>96098204
It's not terribly deep, I just started with "what if elves but technology instead of nature" and wrote a society of AI elves inhabiting a conscious machine world they are in connection with.

>>96098433
>"what if elves but technology instead of nature"
you might want to look into Ventangle

>>96098235
>IE one of the first boards had a high-challenge quest the party decided to not take so I had one of their class-mate parties take it on and they ended up barely surviving.
that's a really fun way to handle NPCs, adds overhead of course but it makes the world feel alive by moving along when the players do.
Do you do similar setups for antagonists or major plot events?

>>96096715
Are they the ones generating slop?

>>96098433
Oh yeah I'm aware of Ventangle and my "elves" have more in common with the automata there, but rather than being transferred personalities, they're AIs that are slowly grown and "chipped off" from the world's intelligence. Subprocesses that were regulated some small part of the planet became conscious enough to be splintered off as an individual. They're all the children of the homeworld, in a sense.

They just so happen to get synthetic humanoid bodies with pointy ears because I like that.

>>96094361
Huh, interesting, I have these old character sheets for Deedo and the rest of the cast using old AD&D. Fucking Deedlit with a -2 AC.
(Remember, kids, this was the days of THAC0, lower is better)

>>96094361
>>96100118
And just because, the rest of the main cast.
I've never seen one for Piro but then she would have been an NPC, so she wouldn't get one.

Would you take responsibility, anon?

>>96100145
Nope.

>>96085839 (OP)

big fat rat tats > elves

>>96100675
Go be furry somewhere else.

>>96100675
>he doesn't know

>>96096072
elf magic

>>96094344
>What do you like so much about them?
I am just deeply in-love with the idea of "child of two worlds" and even when my character is obviously not the main character of their world, they act like it

>Do you have any favorite character backgrounds or traits you like to combine them with?
when I am feeling uncreative, I always end up making a half-elf archer who lives like a hermit in the woods

How do you like to handle half-elves in your setting?

>>96094344
>What do you like so much about them
NTA, but Half-elf is the perfect race for a Forgotten Realms edgelord. Pure elves think you are an abomination. Humans are generally suspicious of elves. If you grow up in a human society, your childhood friends grow faster than you. If you grow up in an elven society, you outgrow your childhood friends. Alone and with a society that rejects you, the half-elf has no choice but to become a mercenary that takes any job because they don't care about their own life. Bitter and angry you are set in a self-destructive path until...

Just made this, though I got a bit carried away with the length here

>>96101306
Forgotten Shitrealms doesn't have half-races anymore, they got eliminated.

>>96101403
they are not specially statted out anymore, you just take the stats of either parent
this was after years of people asking why half-Xs needed their own special unique template for every single instance

>>96101403
Hasbro doesn't determine what edition of the game I play. It is forever the turn-of-the-century in my household.

>oi is this a fookin elf forest? im gonna drill to the 'evens throo it

>oi is this a fookin elf forest? im gonna drill to the 'evens strate throo it

This hentai is one of the few elf-focused ones that is entirely comfy. No rape, sexual torture, degradation or anything similar. Just loving vanilla sex for the purpose of baby making.

>>96100145
take responsibility to make many more babies with my beautiful wife Pirotess? Yes I would!

>>96098240
you can always paint your eldar as hot brown elves. It's certainly what I would do if I had any

Hey elves

FUCK trees

Hahahaha

>>96100118
BX D&D not AD&D.
TSR wanted a larger cut of the of the sales of the localization and it fell through. A different group was brought on for that translation.
Even without knowing the lore, its obvious as fuck those are BX due to the ability modifiers and sheer lack of tertiary stats not on the sheet.

>>96100126
Pirotess was an anime original character who didn't show up in the replays, but did eventually get ported into the official campaign setting book for Sword World 1.

>>96086155
I like this aesthetic. Playing too much steamband once gave me the idea for a setting where every race was fey, and they were in a france-like country (Ys) eternally flung into a warring-states/american-civil-war like conflict, where innacurate guns and sharp sabers decided who would unify the land as a military leader. But then my group broke up before we could play it.

>>96093011
I'd wager 90% of the board's posters that played a TTRPG the last 30 days did so in a setting with elves. I myself ran WFRP and two of my 6 players are elves. And now I felt like answering you and bumping this thread, so congrats in ensuring it was at least 2 posts more successful/bumped than it would without your post and mine.

>>96101134
Simple. No half-elves.

>>96102121
Having played and run plenty of WFRP, there was almost always an elf in the group, sometimes two. Was guilty of adding one myself by playing said elf.
Pretty sure, the only group that had zero elves was the one where the GM forced everyone to roll their characters entirely. For supposedly making up 2% of the players, they sure are popular. At this point, could understand if a GM wants to no elves in his party, for balance or narrative reasons.
Still want to run an all-elf Ulthuan game, once the summer is over.

>>96102103
>a setting where every race was fey, and they were in a france-like country (Ys) eternally flung into a warring-states/american-civil-war like conflict, where innacurate guns and sharp sabers decided who would unify the land as a military leader
That sounds fucking neat.
"Fey knights" are a cool concept, but never thought about fey cuirassiers.
There was this weird manga, fictional 18th century setting, no blackpowder but instead fey creatures were used to shoot rifles. Military-focused, stopped reading for some reason when these fey creatures and some magical shenanigans were hinted to be the center of the conflict.

>>96102355
I have a wizard and a hunter elf, wizard uses red magic. What's fun is that the halfling is more of a menace with his sling than the elves are with ranged magic and arrows, blame the rng. The necromancer became just a tank using his undead as barriers, dude's too scared of the random table to roll more than one dice.

>>96102444
Now imagine what the halfling can do once he gets a gun.

>>96102393
>There was this weird manga
Color me interested. What sucks is that none of my friends (me included) are history buffs enough to make a setting that's anything but window dressing. That's usually enough for us, I wing it and they don't care, but it would be nice to have a more involved setting for once.
In my conception I thought of something like "Oberon's dead, no legitimate heirs are there, first to get through Titania's royal guard becomes king", and then players would form their warband trying to survive a very chaotic battle royale of adventuring parties involved in not!napoleonic warfare and three musketeers swashbuckling.

>>96102459
They'll have a hard time getting guns. The region they started the campaign in is heavilly involved in an ongoing conflict against skaven. The rats burned their original settlement to the ground and killed their mentor. The human wizard eventually dabbled into dark magic earning the party a one way trip to fringe outlawness. One npc gave them the info a bunch of rogues and scoundrels formed their own city by the south, and they went there searching for a place where they can be respected despite walking with undead. They haven't earned the respect of the city of criminals yet, so the price gouging in the black market makes firearms not viable, and they can't otherwise buy through less criminally inclined avenues, or they'll get caught by inquisitors for harboring a dark magic practicioner.

>>96102463
Found the manga.
https://mangadex.org/title/6d5a6e24-b1f1-40be-b1e1-dd97767da628/nejimaki-seirei-senki-tenkyou-no-alderamin
I remember the MC being really cool. A rare case of a believable womanizer in a manga. It's just 32 chapters, might as well binge it.
Line infantry seems really to be the anti-thesis of elves. Saying that, I know Napoleon had a different approach, with more compact and maneuverable infantry units. Still think elves would have a different approach to gunpowder weapons than "shoot at the general direction, hope to not get hit". Riflemen back then were famously inaccurate, they didn't even bother learning how to aim.

>>96102477
Cool, it's short and has nice visuals, I'll give it a try.
I'm thinking of way more inaccurate firearms and way more fragmented factions. I was going to run this on 4e, reskinning long range spells to just be different types of magical ammo, and races to all be different types of fey. Elves are usually calm and collected, but what I pictured is that, with Oberon's death, they'd be in a frenzy to get to Titania. So you wouldn't find groups much larger than 10 soldiers, because since only the general will actually bed the queen, he needs to be charismatic/respected/strong enough that each of his soldiers would rather not fight him or mutiny than actually trying to become the king themselves. Napoleon may have moved a country of French people to war, but you need more than that to shackle a bunch of horny fey to your own hornyness.

>>96102475
Now that sounds like quite an adventure.
I have tried drawing at least some players to darker powers via a reoccurring tzeentchian book, promising endless knowledge. Has not worked out yet

>>96102477
>Line infantry seems really to be the anti-thesis of elves
I don't know. Well drilled infantry in tight formation is pretty common for (high) elves. That's exactly what you want when firearms start appearing since it gives you massive firepower. If anything elves would be leading the firepower race as other races struggled to raise regiments of the same quality and having to keep them safe with more pike longer.

Perhaps other types of elves would not be found in tight firing lines though. Wood elves that have advanced civilizations that thrive in thick forests were linear battle formations are impractical could perhaps instead use well drilled skirmishers instead since they're never going to receive tightly packed shocks anyway.

Dark elves living underground would perhaps develop incredibly defensive tactics and extremely aggressive shock units to make the best use out of the constant chokepoints in their caves.

Like in real life it's environment, geography, society, technology, economy, government etc. that determines what warfare looks like. It flows downriver

>>96085910
kino

Am I really going to reply to the coomer slopfag?
>>96104829
>since it gives you massive firepower
Debatable, rate of fire for bows is higher and many armies in Asia have used bows next to guns. It's a very western European thing to ditch other types of missile weapons for rifles.
>as other races struggled to raise regiments of the same quality
My point is that these types of troops were of poor quality (for the most part), basically being carried by the weapon alone. An elf guy being taught for a weak how to reload a rifle while barely caring about shooting straight is not elfish, is not a good use of their skill and long lifespans. If elves embrace gunpowder weapons, then they would train themselves to hit and place good shots.
>Perhaps other types of elves would not be found in tight firing lines though
Agreed. The usual high elf type, if not just wood elves but more civilized, would probably field more cavalry. To me, cuirassiers and dragoons seem like a much more reasonable use of a population with (relatively) small numbers but high skill, and also of comparatively high wealth. Lots of assumptions here, but you get the idea.
Not to say that there aren't advantages of compact formations and volley fire, so they would absolutely have line formation troops to some degree. You also need someone to stop the opponent from catching your artillery.

Also, the argument about elves fighting in tight formations in some setting doesn't quite compare due to the nature of line infantry warfare. Casualties tend to be relatively low, even for infantry on the front. But I do believe having read that the new age warfare has led to really high casualties. Often, soldiers would just stand and get hit over and over. For an elfish individual with the prospect of a long life, this seems, from a psychological perspective, to be a net negative. Line infantry would only make sense for their most badass (and who get the best pay).

>>96105092
Although, thinking about this for a bit more, line infantry could still be more of a reaction and adaption to battlefield conditions than a deliberate choice. Enemy cavalry would be able to route skirmishers easily, but compact formations are better suited to fend them off. So it depends on what the opponent fields.
But I will still maintain that elfish infantry would at least train differently, better. With the purpose to hit, not just shoot into a general direction (but the smoke caused by gunpowder would be a detriment here). Maybe they end up having a slower rate of fire, but higher kill chance per shot. Helps with ammo conservation, I guess.

>>96102072
I could have sworn she was in the light novels. Or did those come afterwards?

>>96105304
I did some digging, and it turns out I was mostly wrong but not completely.
Priotess was a novel original character. It looks like she was created to give Ashram a named character to interact, and to have another character to use for fanservice on the splash pages.

>>96105304
>>96105661
what about her brother? Hell is Ashram even the antagonist in the RPG plays or is he added because they realized they needed an actual villain when making a real story

>>96105702
There was an evil fighter leading the demon invasion for the evil king, I think his name was Asheramu. I am pretty sure there wasn't much more to him than that in the replays.

>>96090255
thats now a Viking tho thats a slavic hut and attire

looks like we went from "elf slave wat do" to "elf slav wat do"

>>96094174
sorry friend there will never be a time where you arent a rampant homo

>>96085839 (OP)
My world is set in a Bronze Age Collpse setting. Demonic forces taking the place of the Sea Peoples. As such previously isolated elves and humans are having to work together in a city like Antioch which is essentially impregnable. However younger elves and humans are starting to intermarry and create half elves (something that's new in this world where the elves have direct lineages to divinity) This is causing a lot of strife. PF2E is the system I'm running it in.

Elves should be the last fantasy-race to racemix.

>>96085839 (OP)
Dumb question.
Are fat elves a thing? I am no fan of skinny elves unless they are rogues or elitists. I am talking about elves that are not too concerned with their weight or at least use it to their avantage/apperance.

>>96106694
Depends on the setting. What are answer were you expecting?
I think Coran right here was noted to be quite chubby (for an elf) at some point.
Tolkien calls his elves slender, though it's difficult to say how much of that is the result of them simply not eating too much, or if it's entirely biological.
That's in general a question for many settings. If all the elves are slender, is this nature or nurture?

>>96106694
Japanese stuff like that one about elves dieting.

>>96105661
No anon, you were right. She was in the OVA first and then the author ported her into the novels because she was compelling as a character.

The OVA came out before the Lodoss novels were all finished.

>>96106324
>thats a slavic hut and attire
sounds pretty typical for a viking spouse

>>96106727
I think it is more of a cultural thing.

Hot elven women love young human boys.

Hot human women also love young elven boys.

Sometimes, they make it look like the young boy is in charge.

>>96105092
>But I do believe having read that the new age warfare has led to really high casualties.
pure gunfire engagement weren't decisive because of the poor accuracy and training until proper breach-loaded rifled guns were issued on masse and even then close assaults were important.
For earlier periods a charge would generally be necessary to break the enemy after the initial volley or volleys had disorganized them enough to make it less dangerous to charge right into their firing line. Indeed some armies only fired their muskets once at extremely close range or during the final few meters of the charge to maximize shock.

Of course where exactly you look in the historical record will give you a different set of variables that makes it impossible to say anything as a universal truth. You can find examples of basically anything if you look hard enough.

>>96106694
>Are fat elves a thing?
no. That one manga is a psyop

>>96106694
Elves understand that their bodies are divine gifts and getting fat is a moral failing

>>96107424
Huh.

>>96106653
love me some bronze age fantasy. Surely the message of your story is that the half-elves will be able to identify the best of both elf and human civilization and use it to defeat the demons, right?

I have a sort of developed bronze age setting where dark grey elves are one of the most advanced civilizations in the world in their mostly coastal city states while the fair skinned elves are still tribal people living in more temperate areas further south from the main "cradle of civilization"

>>96107357
Good enough for me.

If you're going to insert elves with X culture trait at least do the needful in actually figuring out how to make it interesting.

I mean, look at D&D, you have two subclasses that are attributed to elves but no one can come up with some kind of elven kung-fu?

>>96107522
To be fair, that guy that caused this discussion combined the idea with fey courts and their mythological roots.
Agree, though, the elves own capabilities, magic and the uniqueness of their fey realm should shape this idea as well.
It's also easier to discuss these things in isolation first. Kinda fruitless trying to talk about magic if we don't know what magic the setting and system has.
The elves should also have other cool mounts, like griffins and pegasi

>>96101360
It's shit and has nothing to do with Lineage 2 lore

>>96107592
Admittingly I wasn't paying attention to any actual discussion on the matter (not really going to read all that chief.) But expressing a frustration that extends beyond the use of elves and just making Humans with pointy ears.

My bitching is also aimed primarily at D&D because because a lot of creative fruit is left to rot on the vine, weird when you have a Dwarven Defender being a thing but you don't see that being re-worked into the current classes.

>>96107664
Nah, I get that complaint. Slapping pointy ears on existing cultures and calling it a day is lazy.

>>96107442
I said being fat makes you an objectively worse person

>>96085910
Humanity going along with it because elf enjoyers can appreciate a good elf LARP

>>96085910
>We're gonna act like elves, looks like elves and literally be like elves
>but we're not actually elves, lmfao get fucked humans

>>96106761
Since the anime was an adaptation of the first light novel, I thought I was mistaken about the timeline because its was explicitly stated in an interview with Ryo Mizuno that she was created to give Ashram someone to interact with.

>>96099105
Yes I do, only a little right now but it will snowball once the civil war actually kicks into gear and the party has to start choosing a side and such. The main factions will be the younger prince that possess the same dramatically powerful hero powers as his father, the older prince who lacks heroic abilities but is far more pragmatic (will be one of the first to outfit his army with firearms) and a couple wild cards, one I'm still developing and the other is the anti-hero league that is comprised of regular people who are sick of living under the "tyranny" of heroically powered people. They'll be doing lots of shady shit and terrorism before eventually becoming a proper force when they get their hands on firearms as well.

>>96107700
No I understand. I just now understand that elves reek of narcisism. Wood elves are more chill.

>>96107447
>Surely the message of your story is that the half-elves will be able to identify the best of both elf and human civilization and use it to defeat the demons, right?
That's the players goals at the moment yes, whether or not they can achieve them has yet to be seen. Especially since some of the demons have found out about this and are trying to use this as a weakness in the city. On of the party is a half elf who is trying desperately to be a sweet cinnamon bun but has been loosing her faith due to hatred from both men and elves. Your world sounds pretty neat!

>>96102976
Lol, mine are first time RPers, the second necro guy rolled doubles and got himself a nasty play-date with the warp he asked to spend XP on a dark lore. Since I've handwaved a lot of the more complicated bookkeeping aspects of the game, and balanced encounters to be winnable more than realistic, they actually managed to level up quite a bit. I'm thinking of, if they manage to stop the ancient catastrophe inhabiting the ruins the thieves build their city ontop of, give them the prestige adventurers of their caliber should deserve, and maybe go a more rogue trader route with some military campaigns where they each get a bunch of subordinates to control too, kinda like if WFRP was a wargame (now THAT's a wild idea ain't it?). Maybe they can manage independence from the empire, maybe they get autonomy to rule over a more rules-lax region, will depend a lot if the empire finds out about necromancer dude or if he'll be able to even survive.
I'll say that, GMing for a dark lore user in WFRP is fun AF, I hardly have to create amusement for myself because the baroque dilemma on my player's face whether to solve it with magic or not is already too fun. One time after a battle he was borderline dying, and they were out of supplies, but he had a spell that can suck nether energy out of fresh cadavers to heal himself magically. He rolled 3 fucking times to heal, all of the rolls were doubles which meant he did heal himself, but the magical mishaps made him lose health too so his net gain was less than 20% his hp back. I eventually ruled he was stabilized and wouldn't die, but at low hp, and he called it a day and decided that trying to survive on like 4/13hp was more feasible than healing himself safely around his also injured party.

>>96097348

>>96104829
>>96105092
>>96105252
>>96107357
Yesss, my plan of rousing discussion between military nuts to make them iron-out the logistics I'm too dumb to do myself has worked. How do you guys figure archetypal pixie-like races would fight in the gunpowder age? Like, a 1 meter tall tops pixie?

>>96108850
>I just now understand that elves reek of narcisism
That's humans.

>>96105092
WHEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED!

Elves need smugness correction

>>96110957
As in more smug or less smug?

>>96110500
>How do you guys figure archetypal pixie-like races would fight in the gunpowder age? Like, a 1 meter tall tops pixie?
see the wood elf example. Pixies would also live in deep forests.
Or as in silver bayonet where pixies are an enemy type that makes guns stop working when they're close

>>96111118
>pixies are an enemy type that makes guns stop working when they're close
I like that. I gather earth spirits would act like Dark Elves then so I need to picture gnomish shock trooper squads if I want dwarves and gnomes to be squished into the same archetype.

>>96111165
I think dark elves should be very hot and very haughty. They should also be divided into grey dark elves and brown dark elves.
Grey dark elves have a core of elite guard units but mostly use press ganged regiments of lesser races that are kept in line with brutal discipline.
I'm not sure what gimmick the brown dark elves should have, but rest assured they should exist

>>96111443
If I had a dark counterpart to elves they'd probably just be a rival faction living in the woods too, and I prefer brown elves to full drow since I've watched Lodoss way before playing DnD.

I think slop should be contained in its appropriate general.

How to portray the differences between high and wood elves in a modern setting? Should High elves still be feuding with Dark elves in a modern setting, like open conflict or just a mild disdain for each other, or just flip that shit on their head where all the elves have an understanding and cooperate but rib each other?

>>96111733
There is no "should" here, as it depends so much on how these subraces are established in that setting, to the point that this question is entirely meaningless.
The only reasons, for instance, for high elves and dark elves still fighting each other can be found within your setting.

My elves are more akin to nephilim/Thamud/antediluvian humans. Like Tolkien but instead of sinless pre-fall humans, they are the mighty yet corrupted giants among men (not literally giant). Instead of being a seperate race, they are ancestors to humanity, but their civilisations have collapsed long ago, their numbers are few in the modern age, and they are dying out.
Centuries of life is centuries of experience, so an Elf blacksmith is the pinnacle of his field, but an Elf drunkard or drug addict barely looks human, his body warped and destroyed by his vices and unable to die of old age.
There are arrogant High Elves who cling to their ancient glories and shepherd humanity from the shadows because humans are stupid children who need a guiding hand. Dark Elves consort with demons, view humans as degenerated failures and rule brutal slave empires as a divine aristocracy, and Wood Elves who reject the vices and decadence that brought their old empires down and have returned to monke.

>>96111733
high elves live in cities, wood elves live in rural places, dark elves probably also live in cities both above and below ground.
Would make sense for high elves and dark elves to be in conflict since they live in the same places.

I still think they should generally be at least a bit reserved towards each other since they might view each other as equals since they're all elves, but since they have different core values they might look down on the other types for getting it all wrong. Expand this to more uncommon extremes at either end with some groups being in open conflict and some being pretty united.
Neat thing about values and culture is that it doesn't have to change with technology. Holy wars can be fought with assault rifles and tanks just as well as swords and lances

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>>96100145
>GODDAMMIT ASHRAM!

>>96094140
AI Slop faggotry now welcome.

>>96112121
No, it isn't but the mods refuse to do their job so what you do is hide their post and move on with your life.

>>96112904
>No, it isn't
yes it is, there's no rule against it

>>96085839 (OP)
I ended up creating what are basically just biotech elves in my worldbuilding project. Technically they are a genetically engineered humans, whose ancestors enhanced themselves to a point where the end result was very elf like

>>96110930
The two would get along just fine.

>>96107424
I can see. But for entertaining the thought, lets assume that some elf or drow took up the sumo wrestler diet and exercise regmine. What would his elven kin think of him?

>>96115057
>spoiler
Surprisingly appropriate, given how elves are often depicted as divine-sculpted perfection, or something of the sort.
The heavy emphasis on biotech is also reminiscent of the tree-humping ways of their fantasy counterparts.

>>96114197
Don't Air Bud me, pal. We invented Air Bud.

>>96115676
The entire setting is largely biotech based, so the elf dudes are not sole practioners of using biotechnology, however they are the best at it, largely because they are the remnands of the ruling caste of the civilization of the setting.
Their suits of armor for example are living symbiotic organisms that they wear as a basicaly a second layer of muscle and skin over their bodies.

The setting itself is a sort of colossal megacity composed of largely organic and biomechanical infrastructure and massive ecological habitats and what not, that after a millenia of civil war has been mostly reduced to overgrown ruins, with the remaining more intact districts housing the remnants of civilization within the Cityscape itself.

>>96100145
>hot bombshell delicious brown elf princess
I will turn her palace into a nursery or die trying.

>>96101774
>all of that
>check if true
my dick is diamonds!

>>96106609
>dual-wielding longswords
this guy is going to be easy to break his stance. I wouldn't be saying shit if he was wielding two shortswords

>>96111448
>>96111443
It's your game, you can do what you want when you DM.
I've been DMing a game with brown drow inspired by Lodoss, but still have charcoal black drow, grey drow, etc. And they're all almost as racist towards each other as they are towards surface dwellers.

>>96115057
These are your own drawings? Well done anon. I respect anons who do their own worldbuilding and put effort into it.

>>96116053
They are, and thanks. The worldbuilding project I have is largely just a framework within which I can tie together various cool ideas I have for drawings etc.

>>96116110
Dope. Do you have any socials?

>>96116232
Outside of 4chan I only really post my stuff on my deviantart gallery.
https://www.deviantart.com/screeble/gallery/62271545/mundus-carnis

Never quite got around using places like Twitter etc

>>96115783
>The entire setting is largely biotech based
Fucking groovy. Love me some good biopunk, don't see it that often.
>Their suits of armor for example are living symbiotic organisms
Thought as much - they looked like a sort of organic combat exoskeleton.
>The setting itself is a sort of colossal megacity
Sounds like a lost colony kind of deal. Overlooked, forgotten, and cut off due to an ongoing/recent large-scale interstellar war or something.
>>96116110
Major props for working on your own designs for things as well.

>>96116266
You got rather unique designs that almost appear out of a weird fantasy/scifi pulp novel. I love it!

>>96114197
The mods being too lazy to band it doesn't mean it's welcome.

>>96116489
Show me the rule that says it's not allowed.

>>96116519
Allowed and Welcome aren't the same thing slopfag. Your low effort slop you're too lazy to gen in response to being told you're not welcome is not welcome here. Why are you being this much of a bitch?

>>96116540
You said the mods are too lazy to ban it. They'd only ban it if it breaks a rule.
It does not.
It hurting you fee fees does not make it disallowed.
And it's funny how you try to insult me when I point that out.
Are you some failure of an artist who's pooper perturbed that you'll be out of a job soon?

>>96116375
>>96116466

Thanks! The biotech stuff is kind of the core identity of the setting, as it's first iterations we're sort of just "meat world/dogscape" or scorn style biological horror stuff we're everything was just made out of living materials and it's inhabitants were just mutated freaks. Over time, as I refined the setting I ended up humanizing the denizens a lot, but the foundational biotech element remained.

For example, the "Baryxians" becoming so elf like was not something I initially set out to do, it was more of a consequence of me having a specific idea in mind for the look of their armor, tall, elegant, long climbed and rather sleek, that started to influence the requirements for the proportions of the dudes wearing the armor, making them look elongated and thin, which at least to me partially pushed them towards elf like vibes. Once I was, creatively speaking, caught in the gravity of the elven aesthetics for the Baryxians I kinda felt that just embracing the look and vibe rather than fighting against it was a better move, and it was not hard to justify im universe either, as genetic engineering of humanity and life in general is a big part of the setting anyways.

>>96116580
If the mods weren't lazy, they would change the rules to designate slopfaggotry to another one of those /trash/ only topics. Until then we're gonna say you're not welcome here, and keep calling you a faggot.
>Are you some failure of an artist who's pooper perturbed that you'll be out of a job soon?
Nope. I just think slop is ugly. Like your mom.

>>96116652
It's funny how you think I'm one of the ones posting it. So desperate to score some sort of emotional wound.
I'm just laughing at how pathetic you are.
Also, slop will never be against the rules. No matter how buttmad you get over it.

>>96094331
she's so fucking retarded looking, why do you guys like her so much? at least Pirotess is hot.

>>96116612
You made quite a bold move when you stuck with the eligant elven looks for some of your bioworld inhabitants. Honestly, I want to draw something like that, but I feel my skills are insufficent for something like biopunk.

you don't see many noldor these days..

>>96115883
>I've been DMing a game with brown drow inspired by Lodoss, but still have charcoal black drow, grey drow, etc. And they're all almost as racist towards each other as they are towards surface dwellers.
as it should be. You can never have too many elves

>>96116802
Thanks, I am pretty pleased with the end results of just going with that aesthetic as well.
Biopunk aesthetics are stuff I also feel still insufficently skilled at, given the stuff I look up to as inspiration but there really isn't any choice but to keep trying and practicing.

>>96085839 (OP)
what's Pirotess actual eye color? I've seen both grey like here, yellow and green

>>96118995
Depends on the edition.

>>96118998
no it doesn't, there are only one edition of most Lodoss stuff anyway

>>96085839 (OP)
I don't remember anything about the show but she was best girl right?

>>96120199
Nah.

>>96085910
>Oh no way you're luminous aetherial beings from the beyond who just take the shape of beautiful humanoids? No way, I feel so deceived, here I thought you were just Elves

>>96120199
Pirotess and Deedlit are the two Elf Waifus of that series. Pirotess is a dark elf that half of people fell in love with when they were 14, and Deedlit is the Aryan elf that the other half fell in love with.

>>96098372
The best part of CamCam is that you could very easily forget that she's an elf. She's like the only elf waifu whose arc has nothing at all to do with being an elf, she just has to be an elf because otherwise any sane person would just kill her instantly.

Pirotess and Deedlit established that the popularity of an anime elf character is directly proportional to how much they lust over a human, and henceforth, ruined japanese elves forever.

>>96121150
That's just Japanese everything though. If they made a series where the protagonist were an elf boy they would act the same way.

>>96121163
I personally like media where elves are a monstergirl race who kidnap males from other races (mainly humans) to breed them, either that or they have a liking for cuckolding inferior human women.

there are two things I especially like about Piro

>>96090255
Viking was a job. It was a pirate.
So every viking was a warrior, but not every norseman went a viking.

Elves are, like dwarves, naturally a female-only race. That was until elf Yakub created makes of their race out of hatred for humanity.
Now rather than living as the dominant members of their societies elves and dwarves are subservient to their own copies and with enough propaganda have come to see this as a good thing.

>>96121150
Incorrect. Modern anime doesn't take inspiration from Lodoss War, they take inspiration from MMOs and other isekai, which none of them count as real fantasy genres. That's why every single one of these anime have the adventure's guild, stats, mana, and other concepts which don't really belong in a fantasy story but in an MMO game.

>>96121150
>meanwhile in Tolkien, the basis of basically all western fantasy, all the elf/human couples has the elf be the woman
It might just be universal.

>>96121808
Yeah her eyes are alluring.

>>96121795
There is mythological precedent for this, but they have to keep their in magical forests or castles that age them into dust or cause them to turn into geese if they leave.

>>96122159
They could also copy finfolk and have it be an inescapable island.
>elf-women seek out human men since, if they marry an elf-man, their beauty and magic goes to him and they become his abused crone slave
>elf-men take human women because they're not asexual and also want somebody to love, even if by force
I'm not sure the humans got anything out of it, not even longevity.

>>96122040
yeah haha she has beautiful green eyes

>>96122040
You mean Númenóreans, which don't exist in most anime stories or even TRPG settings, because the writers are hacks who have never read a single Fantasy book in their life.

>>96121987
That doesn't change that most elf characters follow this pattern.
>>96122040
Andreth and Aegnor.
I don't even know what your argument here is.

>>96122040
>all western fantasy, all the elf/human couples has the elf be the woman
That's factually wrong, Forgotten Realms for instance seems like it has a very even spread. Drizzt himself had a human wife, they had a daughter.
And also, the only known half-elf in Lodoss has an elfen father.

>>96122477
Not really, and you have two posts proving you wrong just above.

>>96122817
>and you have two posts proving you wrong just above
Like what?
The Númenóreans or the green eyes?

>>96122383
Numenoreans are men and not one Numenorean fucked an elf. You instead had their regular human ancestors and mixed race with middle-men descendants fuck elves.

>>96122477
Those two never got together.

>>96122554
DnD isn't the basis of western fantasy .r stockholder.

>>96122383
You can't have Numenoreans in stories because they're Aryans. A race of men superior to lesser men. This is generally a no-no nowadays.

>>96123118
>This is generally a no-no nowadays.
Not true, but what is required is emotional manipulation to make them look bad. Just look at the Skaven of Warhammer Fantasy and The Imperium from Warhammer 40k.

>>96123014
>Those two never got together
And?
I still don't get what's the argument is here.
Can we please stop unearthing the poor man without a good reason?

>>96123035
>ALL western fantasy
Nobody said anything about "the basis", faggot.
Also, it can't be universal when in Lodoss itself, the only half-elf has an elfen father.
It's just dumb flanderization what you are doing here.

>>96123200
You're being obtuse.

>>96123227
>Nobody said anything about "the basis"
Except for the post you were replying to, stop seething.

>>96123743
>Except for the post you were replying to, stop seething
Except it being far from universal.

Lets discuss about Fat Elves. I mean elves who took on an american diet.

>>96124154
For what system?

>>96123784
It's universal as in both west and east do it and like it.
Please learn to read.

>>96124346
Except both have male elf and female human pairings as well, including in their very early influential works.

>>96124283
FATAL.

>>96124402
Except they don't.
Even Tolkien was influenced by the king of elfland's daughter, a book where a human prince marries an elven princess. So the idea is actually much more older than him and people poorly adapting his work.

>>96123014
>Numenoreans are men
Nope. Númenóreans were different from common Men. Both physically and culturally.
>and not one Numenorean fucked an elf.
Lol, sure they did. In fact they even do in LoTR. And this is the real problem with modern media, the people making it don't know anything about Fantasy because they have never read a single book, you can say they barely count as Fantasy fans. And then you come here to spell these nonsensical claims.

>>96124557
>In fact they even do in LoTR
They don't.
There were no Numenorean elfen couples.
Quote the books, if you are so brave.

>>96124541
>So the idea is actually much more older
The Elfin Knight is much older than both, so what is your argument here.
>people poorly adapting his work
That I agree with.
Humans marrying elves should either have elfen blood in them, be educated and trained by elves, or at the very least be nobility.

>>96124580
Anon, Aragorn *is* a Númenórean. Just to name one example. Surely you didn't skip the Appendixes, right?

>>96124679
He's of the dunedain, but not a Numenorean.

>>96124679
Nah, he's a Dúnedain.

>>96124598
Lesser man marrying a higher being is a timeless staple anon.
Even among elves, it was Thingol the mere elf that married one of the Maiar and not a male Maia that married a lowly creature of the world.

>>96124725
man marrying upwards is a staple of fantasy exactly because it's a pure fantasy

>>96124283
Not any system. Just for any setting unless you have mechanics for fatness.

>>96124725
>it was Thingol the mere elf that married one of the Maiar
Yeah, wouldn't it be cool if people took note of these things too, and not just defended their coombrainery by saying "only ever female elves fuck human men because Tolkien!" and then ignore everything else Tolkien wrote.
Though, overall, aside from Andreth and Aegnor, this might be one reason why you have female elf and male human pairings in his work.
Since most other works don't copy these actual themes and narrative reasons, they have no problems adding more male elf and female human pairings.

>he needs proof and arguments as to why elves fuck humans

lol. I should keep writing my dark elf thrall story

>>96124705
>>96124719
The Dúnedain ARE Númeróneans, you idiots. You NEED to read books. You NEED to stop being secondaries, and you NEED to re-learn what Fantasy is.
>The Dúnedain (S: "West-men"), singular Dúnadan, were the Men of Númenor and their descendants who peopled the Westlands of Middle-earth in the Second and Third Ages.

>>96124909
You can't be a Numenorean if you're a mixed race descendant from outside of Numenor.
It's why they're not called Numenoreans and Aragorn is only ever referred to as a descendant of Westernesse.

>>96124754
You are just r/elven masculinity.

>>96124754
You are fucking pathetic dude. You sound like those chinks you whine on reddit.

How do we feel about dark elves that don't live unnaground?

>>96125019
>But my headcanon!
Irrelevant. They're the surviving Númenóreans who refused to worship the Devil and fall for his tricks. In the Third Age of Middle-earth, is impossible to return to Númenor anymore for obvious reasons so that's out of the question entirely.

>>96125323
>druchii
>dunmer
All cool.

>>96125034
>>96125321
>personal attacks
Alright, we can go home.

today I will remind them
https://files.catbox.moe/w2l0jg.jpg

>>96125709
>"People are making fun me me because I'm acting like a retard, making me the victor!"

>>96093618
What's the name? I checked the recent shows and upcoming lists and can't find it.