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>Most recent bracket system update
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https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

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https://magicprecons.com

>TQ:
What do you enjoy the least about playing against Simic?

>>96146264 (OP)

(Sry for the repost from last thread but I started posting them right at the end of the last one and I would like some feedback if possible)

A while back I started making a 4 decks custom commander set. I already posted the progress here, again a while back. I wanted to update you guys and also, if possible get some feedbacks on the cards. I am using AI for the arts.

The first one is :
ARCANE: RGB Big Spirits and Arcane instants/Sorcery (and Splice unto)
The "lore" is Not!Indian Spirits using their arcane power to oppress the humans and the colonising European

stop making color specific TQs you absolute tranny

Print it you cowards.

>>96146303
The second one is:
DIRECTOIRE: Lots of human tokes, equipments and anti spirits spells
The "lore" is basically French revolution fighting against the HRE/Catholic Church and its very real power

I've never watched lots of the rings

>tq

I don't like playing against MtF spergs. I prefer to FtM cuties who play Gruul instead.

>>96146314
The third one is:
HOLY: BGW with knight that can become spirit token copies on death with inter-creature buffs
The "lore" is the HRE/Catholic Church still in medieval times

Cons
>no protection
>no death triggers
>can be countered
>double red pip makes splashing harder ()
Pros
>non-creature artifacts
>cast trigger (cascade)
>cheaper
>cards can be cast at a later time even without tannuk on board

anything I've missed?

>TQ
the eternal birthday boying

>>96146315
I watched it a couple years back. Its very apparent why it's so popular, and it still holds up, but if you're familiar with fantasy at all it won't wow you like it did audiences back then.

It's a bit like going back and seeing Star Wars for the first time after watching other sci-fi

>>96146320
And the fourth and last one is:
TRICROWN: RGU Tri color deck with monocolors that benefits from other colour monocolured creatures.
The "lore" is the Not!UK being unified as a three kingdoms country and trying to fight the HRE/Church from above.

>>96146318
Lel they really do. What's up with that? I know 1 FtM and it plays selesnya and gruul. It also never ever declares a fucking attack and just sits there building a board every turn. No idea what's going on in that head. Maybe the testosterone is fighting the estrogen like kaiju and not leaving much capacity to impact the game state

>>96146337
>>96146320
>>96146314
>>96146303
Fuck off spammer. Go make a new custom card general

>>96146313
Just build it you coward

>>96146351
I want prints. Prints!

>>96146318
I really feel for you people who have to play with these things. I've literally never seen a tranny in real life.

>>96146348
The custom cards general was fused into edhg.
There's literally the Make custom cards in the pasta.
If you don't like it, just ignore the 4 posts

>>96146323
i would add to cons that it might be a bit boring in the long run, as most
>cheat cost
commanders are

>>96146306
>stop making color specific TQs you absolute tranny

So why don't you like playing against simic?

>>96146368
Unfuse them.
>just ignore my giant ass images and blog posts all posted back to back!!!!
Or you could just never have made them. How about that?

>>96146367
The first time I saw a hambeast troon at my locals they showed out smelling like rotting flesh, had the biggest neckbeard worse then our yugioh players and then proceeded to break the first chair he sat on, then eventually got told to leave because he stinked so fucking bad everyone in the store was complaining and then we never saw him again

>>96146368
It's fine but next time better practice would be post all 4 in the previous thread after the new one is posted and then link them here in one anchor post with just your customer commander or something.

Nobody is ever going to critique 200 custom cards. That's too much of an ask. But you can ask them to look at one. And it might as well be a commander.

>>96146379
>Simic Slop #208
>u/g
>Instant
>Whenever your opponent blinks you may play an additional land this turn. Whenever a land enters under your control, draw a card.

>>96146406
>>Whenever your opponent blinks you may play an additional land this turn. Whenever a land enters under your control, draw a card.

Thats based as fuck.

>>96146386
That's just the average edh player, anon
my local draft has at least 4 dudes with breath that smells like car exhaust and B.O. that smells like a fly ridden corpse

>>96146383
You should cry less you'll be happier you stress addicted faggot

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

>>96146450
the twink ranks simic as a C btw

>>96146264 (OP)

So what is Simic's biggest weakness, like what doesnt it do well that even matters?

What's a card you love that's not a full 5-color cycle set but should be?

>>96146457
There was some kid playing pokemon and he dropped a die and the kid tried to politely ask the stinking hambeast to grab it for him and when the kid said "thank you Mr" the troon had a meltdown and yelled at the kid, and even the friend of the creature told him to calm down

>>96146559
>people love playing greedy nonsense with big boards
>hurr durr why am i losing to the color combo that best does that
widen your horizons

Trying to resolve prisoners dilemma at 2 am while everyone's drunk and city on fire is in play is the most entertaining thing I've ever seen in magic
They spent 10 minutes thinking about what to do and arguing since 2 people would die if everyone snitched so they all agreed to silence, but two of the players gave each other a look at they wrote down their choice, then they both snitched and the last guy died choosing silence

>>96146690
i love voting cards like this so much its unreal

I have lost to a simic deck once.

>>96146557
how queer

>>96146264 (OP)
>What do you enjoy the least about playing against Simic?
Nothing

>>96146670
So graveyard stuff? Does it even matter when Simic can just counter anything it needs to on the stack?

>>96146871
I almost run as many counterspells in my mono white decks than I do in my decks with blue in them. Simic aint the boogeyman this place makes it out to be

>>96146892
>counterspells in my mono white decks

Explain? Us Mardu players need to know.

>>96146871
>simic can ramp and counter at the same time

>>96146900
No i wont explain

>>96146924
>No i wont explain

So you were bullshiting. Because last I checked outside of Tefpro, and that aven dude white lacks ways to deal with the stack/.

>>96146900
i dont think that anon is being honest.

White has counter spells but most of them are bad (Mana tithe), or narrow to the point of almost uselessness. (Rebuff/Dawn Charm)

Lapse of certainty, and Reprieve are the only ones that won't be a dead card in your hand.

>>96146950
>teshar can't defend himself when he's about to pop off
the intellect of the average /edhg/ poster is astounding

>>96146264 (OP)
i dont like value vomit or combo which is usually what UG decks are

>>96146670
Dies to oil

>>96146960

What does Fierce guardianship do again? I'm asking for a friend.

>>96146995
i wouldn't know
it's so easily swatted like a bug

>>96146950
Also Reprieve and Lapse of Certainty
also uhh dawn charm? I think it is

>>96146900
have you been sleeping the last 2 years?

>>96147016
You said monowhite, so I'm asking about how monowhite counters spells on the stack outside of aven interuptor

>>96147034
>Dawn Charm
>Illumination
>Rebuff the Wicked
>Lapse of Certainty
>Mana Tithe
>Reprieve*

on all levels, except legal, the spell has been countered

What are the best replacements for wheel of fortune

>>96147034
you're also putting a game changer as some sort of snide remark against teshar so you get what you deserve

Reprieve
Dawn Charm
Mana Tithe
Lapse of Certainty
Rebuff the Wicked
Aven Interrupter

There is one more that I cant remember.... how many counter spells do you guys run?

>>96147034
the quality of /edhg/ posters is so bad today

>>96147085
That is not a counterspell you absolute fucking retard

>>96147085
>the quality of /edhg/ posters is so bad today

Then answer the TQ then

>>96147100
cry moar as i combo off in your face buddy boy

>>96147113
Damn I didn't realize grand abolisher could stop board wipes

>>96146398
>(You)
Fair enough. It is a lot.
I'd try that then. Here are only the primary commanders (left) and the secondary commanders (right).

>I cast Omniscience
>I sacrifice my Ranger in response
>Ok. Omniscience resolves..

>>96147128
>the simic player has board wipes
>uh... cyclonic rift!!
kek then let's stop pretending that green is anything more than a support color in the highest level of play

>>96147144
Damn that's crazy while thoracle is on the stack I have my grand abolisher do nothing and you win because that's what counterspells do

HOW DO I WIN WITH THE COLOR OF STOMPY?!

>>96147159
damn that's crazy how simic isn't actually the boogeyman people think it is and is actually beaten by monowhite of all things in bracket 2

>>96147184
I understand, it's because I didn't cast my instant speed grand abolisher to counterspell you

would this be ok in a squall deck? discard outlet for reanimating

>>96146264 (OP)
I wanna build a deck around Eggman. What are some monstrous machines I can fill my deck with?

>>96147182

>>96147200
pick the machines that are monstrous

>>96147200
>Egg Man
AKA Baldy Nosehair. Wake me when they make a card for ROBOTNIK

>>96147197
sorry your shitty mardu deck always loses to simic hahaha pick a better deck next time

>>96147061
Reforge the Soul, Wheel of Misfortune, Path of the Pyromancer, Molten Psyche, Winds of Change, Magus of the Wheel

>>96146315
It's an incredible trilogy that still holds up

>>96146318
Based Possum Lodge deck builder

>>96147200
The two-color gearhulks from Aether Drift are pretty good.
pic related just feels right though.

>>96146717
I really want to make a Jigsaw style deck where it's nothing but votes and make your choice style effects and really embrace being the pod heel but I got no idea where to start yet and should finish building my equipment deck first

>>96147016
That little nigga is 40 dollars fuck buying that shit

>>96147346
And/or untimely malfunction

>>96147346
Sharpie and a basic land is cheaper

>>96147016
>in addition of your opponent always having it, i too am obviously always having it

>>96146334
There's been 0 (zero) good fantasy movies since Lord of the Rings and few before. For how popular the genre is there is a derth of good visual fantasy media.

>>96147546
What a godawful post

>>96147550
He just wants to see more racist fantasy, anon, don't you understand?

>>96146690
>>96146717
I really wish they made a Voting set instead of more faggy hat shit and SPAAACE. Making players have to choose their poison stirs up so much shit in my pod.

>>96146871
If something hits the board simic has a hard time removing it. There's too much indestructible today and bouncing just delies. The only relevant removal nowadays is forced saccing, exiling, -1/-1, and board wipes.

>>96147672
Absolutely retarded opinion

>>96147642
How is this picking their poison?

>>96146900

>>96147130
>Thinker Extraordinaire
>Redeemer of the Losts
Lmao these titles suck

>>96147676
>anon says correct thing
>retards sperg
>ILL ALWAYS HAVE PONGIFY TRUST ME!!!!
If simic was the boogeyman you thought we would see that reflect in pro play across formats... but we dont! Wonder why real mystery

>>96147337
i have a friend with a Braids, Arisen Nightmare deck centered around tough choices. Very Thematic, but the "tough choices" are just fucking STAX, no fun voiting cards like >>96147642's picrel, because that wouldnt be "efficient" enough.
Sometimes min maxers are really annoying

>>96147550
Name some then

>>96147200
You'll also need discard payoffs that make discarding extra painful so you're more likely to get value out of the choice trigger. Cards like Megrim, Geth's Grimoire, and Sangromancer.

>>96147687
Massive strawman
Retard

>>96147642
for me? single out the sucker of the pod and drain the table through mini games.

>>96147687
>I JUST HAVE IT
is probably the biggest retard argument in these generals. I'd love to know the percentage of anons who actually play games.

Every simic player I've played is a greedy idiot who gets caught up building their board state only to lose the game after getting nuked.

>>96147758
Nothing about that is a strawman cause simic is shit at dealing with creatures on the board and the other part is simply true

>>96147777
Checked
This anon speaks the truth though. You should run interaction in your decks, but sometimes you won't have it the turn you need it and will have to play around things your opponents have, that's what keeps the game fresh.
>>96147821
Especially losing by scooping after a board wipe. In recent memory a mouth breather was about to resolve a Return of the Wildspeaker to draw him 26 after he dumped his hand, someone killed his big creature so he was only going to draw 2 instead and he left the table in a huff.
pic unrelated, but still a good card to mess with retards.

trying to upgrade blood rites, thoughs on it? what else would remove, change or think should had stayed?
REMOVED
>Timothar, Baron of bats
>kindred boon
>order of sacred dusk
>promise of Aclazotz
>warfarer's bubble
>temple of false god
>yahenni undying parisan
ADDED
Vengeful bloodwitch
Roaming throne
Preacher of the Schism
Anguished unmaking
Edgar, Charmed Groom
Lunar convocation
Sorin, Imperous bloodlord
Bloodline keeper

>have on the side but haven't added yet
Vampire nighthawk
Mortify
Elenda saint of dusk
Also have a possible clifhaven vampire and marauder bligh priest in case in case i had enough with the pod and add infinite lifegain drain combo

>>96146264 (OP)
I LOVE playing against Simic because it interaction checks you so it outs every shitter that's not playing removal.

>>96147835
All of it is a strawman because you start by lampooning what I said

>>96147890
you're absolutely worth lampooning because you think simic can just counter everything
god forbid simic gets faced with a commander that can actually win on the spot

>>96147371
Not bad at all

>>96147984
I never said any of that though
Which means you're a strawmanning retard
We can go in this circle all day but this is what happens when you try and find a stranger in the alps

>>96148103
>>96146871

Which one of these does /edhg/ recommend

>>96148183
>>96147862
>actually asking advice
lol
lmao

>>96148183
Krenzo personally. Unique enough play style

>>96148224
What is unique about him?

>>96148224
Which Krenko, there are three of them

I know some of you faggots got their panties wet brewing him. How does he perform?

>>96148241
Grenzo, whatever,
>>96148236
There are very few cards that care about what is at the bottom of your deck

>>96148183
Mother fucking Grenzo
>Play around mulliganing aggressively to "fix" the bottom of your deck
>Cauldron of Eternity + Workhorse + Free Sac outlet for a Rube Goldberg combo
>Play infect, play counters, carve out niches for Rakdos cards you've always loved but never found a home for

>>96148253
>mulliganing aggressively to "fix" the bottom of your deck
But you're supposed to shuffle, not put at the bottom.

>>96148278
You shuffle between mulligans but when you put cards back after deciding to keep, they go to the bottom (no shuffle)

>>96146264 (OP)
TQ: doppelgang. every simic i face i always fear they drag the game on with ancient cornucopia while shitting out lands and end the game with a massive doppelgang.

>>96148253
I've never played with anyone who did the 'muls-1 cards to bottom' style of mulligan in EDH, even if they play standard/limited.

>>96148183
Rowan is fun once or twice. then she gets boring fast.

>>96148318
>Getting baited, on my 4chinz!?

Probably because you play with dipshits who think 32 lands are enough.

>>96148323
How come?

>>96148124
Ok?

>>96148367
pure glass cannon and everyone sees it coming from a mile away.

>>96148393
>got caught and has nothing left to say
yummy

How do you always keep showing up in random fucking places jimbo

>>96148398
Ye but isnt every combo deck like that

>>96148518
It's more of, she is instant death and of people know what she does you won't get to play

>Jihad is banned
>Army of Allah is not

>>96148481
You're a retard.
If I post proof you're just going to say that I edited the HTML

>>96148526
But in the context of the three commanders in that post, arent they all going to be targeted in that sense

>>96148527
>cleanse is banned
>mass calcify isnt

>>96148183
Been meaning to build Rowan since the set dropped, haven’t yet.

>>96148593
i'm not the retarded here thinking simic is unbeatable lol

>>96148705
And yet again you're a strawmanning retard

>>96148711
where's the strawman?
>>96146871

Man Edge of Eternities sucks. Marvel is too UB for my tastes and I doubt Spider Man will be good. I don't care about Avatar and it'll probably just be a Tarkir rehash.

Actually pretty nice, knowing I won't have to pay attention to anything in game until January.

>>96148764
If only WotC puts time on printing more things like Foundations, Bloomburrow and Final Fantasy meanwhile.

>>96148764
I'm more interested in their Universes Within Spider-Man set even though none of it is coming to print.
Like, obviously they're not going to commission any art for it, right?

>>96148764
For me it's the contrary, this set has a lot of good cards for my decks

>>96148764
It does suck yeah. There's no good commanders. Major disappointment

>>96147890
>retarded opinion
You didnt say anything anon. Maybe use some big boy words and try again

>>96148764
Honestly I'm like that with Spiderman and Avatar, but I freely admit if they did a really cool Gambit card I would make a deck with him day 1 because he's my favorite comic character of all time. Pic related, the sleeves on my current commander deck

>>96148888
Retarded opinion

>>96148764
>age of eternities sucks
>2cmc green haste trample creatures can't be countered combat damage can't be prevented
YES HAHAHAHA YESSS SUCK IT BLUE AND WHITE
t. XENAGOS

>>96148814
I don't pay attention to a lot of pre release news. Have they shown all the Avatar cards yet? I was hoping to make a Sokka themed deck with a bunch of food and colorless cards if he didn't suck

why do grixis and esper get all the fun stuff? how is this fair?

how many tutors do you run in which colours?
for me, it's 6-7 creature tutors in creature decks that run green, 3 or less in anything that's white, 0-1 in other colors

>>96148927
this but red

>the token/copies pile I made just to make playing three not a headache has more cards than the actual deck
We autism maxing now. And I have a feeling 36 goblin tokens isn't going to be enough

>>96148814
>There's no good commanders
ngl larping as a captain and putting down spacecraft and vehicles like skysovereign consul flagship sounds pretty fun
>the second in command is a better captain than the actual they/them captain, thanks wotc

>>96148927
Grixis is dedicated bad guy shard.
Esper is dedicated smart guy shard.
Jund is dedicated brute guy shard (dumb).
Naya is dedicated basic guy shard (lame).
Bant is dedicated good guy shard (gay).

>>96148927
Name one fun thing Grixix got

>pull ffx rhystic at magiccon
>crack an eldraine box
>3 more
>4 rhystics in a month

Goddamnit, people bitch and whine when you run it. Useless cards

>>96148990
It has "X" in it, which objectively the coolest letter.

>>96148990
how about the best haste/myriad commander in the game? a thing gruul should've been king at instead.

>>96149003
>People bitch and whine
Who gives a fuck?

>>96149023
This isn't from EoE

>>96149105
Yes.

I'm so glad white anime tits are selling more so we get less shit people in shit planes with shitty settings

>>96149125
I think the original complaint of "grixis and esper get all the fun stuff" was specifically about EoE, anon.

>>96148785
you mean they'll use ai for arena versions?

>>96149010
I agree.
>tfw t4 quadruple 9/9 goldvein hydra

>>96149134
That might be what you think but that wasnt what I wrote.

>>96149023
the fuck is fun about that
it's endless double strike evade jank for a single token payoff

>>96149191
>*two token payoff
okay, and extra combat turn. alright, maybe a bit fun.

>>96149131
I don't even mind brown characters in brown settings or the like but fuck me I'm going to die assmad at what they did to LOTR. Both in Magic and for that shit Amazon show

>>96149205
the dragons generate more dragons in the extra combat step.

>>96149239
They did infact enter the battlefield this turn

>>96147335
walking ballista at home

>>96149167
This never happened

>>96148183
Grenzo seems funni, does rakdos have any cards like this?

>>96149305
Nope

>>96148246
I've been disappointed in testing. Relies too heavily on very aggressive ramp and the moment you slap someone hard enough you'll probably get hated out of the game.

Which cards do you play that unexpectedly mine salt
>pic related
I've had a couple opponents rq at a twiddle targeting their big baddie/blocker

>>96149305
yes

How do you guys stop yourselves with deck building? Getting the itch the build a Celes deck because I pulled one from the promo pack in my FF7 precon a month back but know I have already spent enough money this year on upgrading my exisiting non-precon decks. Also how have you guys gone about downsizing your collections?

>>96149337
Dropping an Overburden against my friend’s Timmy battle cruiser decks (especially against friends who ‘hate interaction’) is always funny to do based on their reactions alone.

>>96149378
there comes a point where you realise everythings somewhat recycled and there is a best version of each playstyle you want to play. once you reach that phase you look for the truly unique effects or fun deck ideas.

>>96149337

>>96146557
Is it a twink or a trap or a tranny? I always thought elk was a t-girl

>>96149378
By playing the decks I already built.

>stay away from magic for 6 months
>play my old edh decks against my friends
>wow damn this game is still really good
>look at what's been printed since I last left
>oh
>put cards away for another 6 mo
see you guys in 2026.

>>96146557
Glad to see I don't have to play consistently to still be better at the game than people who play for a living
inb4 this is some dumb ass cedh shit

>>96147672
I also live like its still 2013

>>96149407
elk claims he's a twink, he says this every now and then in his vids

>>96149432
i know right playing islands is so 1993

>>96149447
do you think they will ever ban splintertwin in modern? I hope not, I really like that deck

Purphoros was printed before Impact Tremors

>>96149460
>modern players whine about twin being banned
>the monkey's paw curls
>twin is legal now but is irrelevant in the meta
lol

>>96149207
exactly

>>96149407
Current twink future tranny. Either way I want to mount that elk
>>96149305
I've thought about coming with rules for a planar chaos style game mode using janky Yu-Gi-Oh cards as the inspiration and this was one of the big motivators for that idea

>fantasy is a setting about magic and whimsy
>so let's put blacks in it!
Then it's not fantasy anymore, simple as.

Is nuka-cola + academy manufacturer worth it if you aren't doing infinite combo shenanigans? I have a few other food/clue makers but not many.

>>96146450
damn would i boy-kiss this twink.

How does this wipe usually do in all your experiences? I'm making a deck that's basically going to be a land battle royale where I animate everyone's lands and make them fight so I don't want to use the normal ones

>>96149570
It would still be if they put like, actual Africans instead of the EBT tribes.
Africa has some neat myths and cultures that are criminally underexplored in favor of pandering to westernized blacks (Who don't like that pandering) in the name of pandering to fat white women

>>96149570
nothing more fantasy than a working B society

>>96149587
>Mill myself alot, have a ton of tokens, play it into a Yawgmoth will type effect

>>96149570
reminder that it took a bigger IP like marvel for mtg to actually make a pretty black woman

>>96149587
it has over performed for me every time because our pod runs way WAY too many rocks. hell, even the green precons come with talismans and signets for some reason. this has never not been mana positive and fuck everyones ramp in the progress

>>96149568
Older yugioh cards have some real troll shit that make me wish magic would do the same (outside white border).

>>96149626
You wouldn't see me complaining if wizards made Mirage 2 and it had nothing but cute queens. But they won't do that, instead they'll have black gandalf and space negros.

>>96149581
What color? I wouldn't run nuka-cola over peregrin took, and they can't both be in the same bracket 3 deck.

>>96149638
East African really can be gorgeous

>>96149337
It only happened once but I made a Yuriko player scoop with Pic related with swiftfoot boots on. Kept using it to kill his commander and whittle him down.

>>96149643
Golgari. I'll cut it for pippin then, how does it work with academy manufactuer? I make a squirrel and get a food, but then manu replaced that food with all 3 token types instead? Or is it based on who hit the battlefield first?

>>96149654
While she does look quite attractive, the woman in the video is likely using a filter — You can tell by the manner in which her face slightly wobbles when turning. It might be hard to catch, I'm pretty good at spotting these types of things. Do you have any other videos you'd like me to analyze?

>>96149627
>because our pod runs way WAY
as supposed to what exactly? not ramping at all?
im sick of green land ramping all day while they pack all the efficient artifact hype they can muster and even ramp in that process - while they are hurt least by land destruction too.

how do wie stick it to the Green Man?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-Y54gkQnrE

These guys all sound very gay, are there any non mega homo mtg youtubers?

>>96149676
>how do we stick it to the Green Man?
you can always send a message with infect

>>96149594
Anon, don't you know that depicting African culture with blacks is problematic? We need black vikings and black Aragorn. True diversity líes in a formless poodle of slop where everyone is brown

>>96149676
>how do wie stick it to the Green Man?
Take the mom pill. Seriously, it's impossible for most green decks to play through this card. No etbs or landfall triggers turns the mean green machine into Timmy's First Craw Wurm.dek. Greenfags have a ton of amazing fight spells but they rarely ever use them.

>>96149689
>infect is already widely pozzed and tied into green

>>96149638
>that retarded super edgy spoon
chuuni wife material

>>96149676
white has ketchup
black has doublers
red has rituals
blue has dorks I guess lel

>>96149709
>amazing fight spells but they rarely ever use them
that is true, but my pod absolutely does, and the Green Man seldom comes dressed monochromatic
they would still be absolutely fucked by a single Hushbringer, i will run those more, good idea

>>96149712
i don't see the problem in using green infect to kill green ramp

>>96149752
does infect not ramp?

>>96149760
when i think of ramp i think of greedy shit like boundless realms, are we kvetching over cultivate too?
if you want to be a purist there's always skittles

>>96149676
>how do wie stick it to the Green Man?
strike first

>>96149777
you forgot the P/T

>>96149676
>how do wie stick it to the Green Man?
strike first
>>96149782
yeah, I'm retarded

>>96149795
you gave up your trips

>>96149803

>>96149795
just imagine
same stats
but instead of treasures, it's destroy that many target permanents of defending player

>>96149685
Why our very own resident Cybersnap of course!

>>96149832
Nah. Make it so it's a sacrifice instead
And on attack trigger and not damage.

>>96149626
I legit didn't know Storm had a card. Neat

>Turn 1 Exploration and Serra Ascendant
>Turn 2 Amulet of Vigor, Ocelot Pride, and Mentor of the Meek
>Turn 3 Grand Abolisher and Springheart Nantuko on Ocelot Pride

>>96149963
Something to do with being Secret Lair exclusive release.

>>96149919
>see an ICBM flying towards you
>salt your lands and kill yourself before it hits
but why

>>96149971
>turn 1 land
>turn 2 accursed marauder
>turn 3 reanimate accursed marauder, then animate dead accursed marauder

>>96149976
I don't know, maybe we could give such an action a cool keyword name like "Obliterator" or somethin'

>>96149975
I really don't get why they let secret lair have unique mechanics. I like Captain America, he's always been a cool character to me, and his card ability is awesome and full of flavor, but paying what, like 40 bucks for it and having no poorfag version of it where it's the same ability just tied to some doughnut steel OC or Gideon or some shit is just bad business

>mfw they wouldn't make anymore of this JRPG summoning mechanic in future sets

>>96150128
New set. Theros, Kaldheim, and Amonkhet get combined in a maelstrom conflux and go to war. Age of Mythology ensues with Epic Creatures

>>96150148
They recently(ish) added the chinks to retold in a way that doesn't suck ass.
Also the nips are next on the block

When is the Magic x WWE crossover? I want to make a wrestling themed deck with Andre the Giant leading the charge

>>96150087
>I really don't get why they let secret lair have unique mechanics
$$$

>>96150183
Best you can get is Secret Lair release for handful of WWE themed cards. Supposedly very soon, if WotC tries to find more regular collab whores.

>>96150182
>Portal Third Age incoming

>>96150227
I'm just still miffed that they haven't bothered adding the Sumerians to the game.
Ah well

>>96150201
I get they're a company and a company should want to make money, but fuck me man, it's really lame seeing scalpers go absolutely HAM on price gouging
>>96150210
I hate to admit but I'd mark the fuck out for a release that had Kane, Taker or the Hulkster even if they're reskins. Hell, I'd even take an LA Knight if they need a modern guy to go with the legends

>>96150260
There absolutely is a way for them to make money without being greedy cunts, it's just that, due to a few different circumstances, most of which are self inflicted, that's no longer an option for them

So whats the verdict on mtgproxy? I read through the pastebin and they aren't really mentioned. Seems like a bit less effort than MPC overall, and I am one lazy fuck.

Has anyone ever built a vintage commander for fun?

>>96150320
my friend did and made an initiative deck with flicker and a bit of reanimating on the side

>traded my Galaxy Foil artifacts SL for pic rel

>>96150320
I had an Asmira deck. Now I have 89% of an asmira deck

>>96148892
Since Gambit uses exploding cards as weapons, he should have an ability that involves milling yourself and dealing damage to the opponent equal to the Mana value of the milled cards.

>>96150320
They really are smoking something back then

>>96147862
please respond :(

>>96150451
>animeshit
You did it to yourself, faggot. Now we know not to help anyone with upgrading Blood Rites on the off chance that we’re helping a disgusting animefag.

>>96150491
damn....

>>96150476
its him

>>96150514
Which one had the dick again

>>96150521
It can’t be, he achieved Nirvana when Bloomburrow came out and escaped the cycle.

>>96150547
Well, if "Getting arrested for fucking squirrels to death" is "Achieving Nirvana" then yes

>>96150451
Run the infinite drain anyway, what's wrong with a 3 card win con?

Would this work as intended?
>only restarts the game if all players vote yes

>>96150514
Why are they balding?

So realistically, where should I be aiming with this new bracket shit? My deck is a 6.6 power level wise, but a 2 bracket wise. Is that what I can expect from most people on average?

Why are all of the bant commanders faggots

>>96146303
You're in the wrong thread. And don't be dishonest.
>>96140564

>>96150605
Okay?

>>96146406
I want to curbstomp Zimone so fucking badly.

>>96150634
She and loot need to be hit by a car.

>>96150605
Rafiq is gigabased though.

What does the goblin poster use to gen these images?

>be whale
>have a 5000 count box filled to the brim with deconstructed decks and random rares, even $200 cards
>feel like I need to put those expensive ones in a binder
>realize I don't know card prices and will know need to inventory everything

how the fuck do I organize at scale? 5$+ cards only in a place and box the rest, do by color or set. driving me crazy

>>96150615
But it would be even more out of place there anon

>>96150642
God, my man went from being one of the most notorious commanders in the format back when I started playing to not even on anyone's radar. And unlike the rest of his old club, it's not because they printed (Several) commanders that do what he did but better, but because his gimmick just isn't really good anymore.

>>96150642
Ah shit should have made an asterisk for chadfiq

>>96150557
Use Karn, Liberated as templating, so it would have to specify the permanents are left in exile when restarting the game.

>>96150649
Don't tackle it all at once, do it in steps.
Pick something like rarity or price or color or type or whatever and do that, and then start narrowing things down from there. It'll be an absolute pain in the ass if you decide to try and do two or three different criteria all at once. Trust me, I've been where you are.

>the teenager who didn't drop a 2nd land until turn 5's face when I win on turn 6 and he hasn't played his 3 cost commander and it's been an hour

>>96150691
fack

>>96150691
>Tfw my friend who's nearly 40 still plays like this

>>96150649
Are you a toddler?

>>96150691
>turn 6
>a player on one land for 5 turns
>1 hour

Why the fuck can't people play efficiently?

>>96150365
Good choice

>>96150406
100% would be a self mill or discard from hand effect. Maybe have him be shrouded for a turn if you discard. Or if they want to lean on his X-Men 97 appearance could also sacrifice him to exile a target creature or artifact, lots of options that would give him flavor

How do i find specific, cheap cards not from the newest few sets without having to wait for shipping?

>>96150779
You get lucky enough to find them at your lgs

>>96150618
Looking into bant theft with her. Is it worth it? I like it in concept, but when I'm looking at building it just looks like a shell for the same old blue theft spells that kind of make her own ability a bit redundant. I thought maybe steal with her ability and then throw copy spells on the stolen shit so I keep a copy, but most copy spells run around 4 mana and I could just be playing 4 mana creatures that are more useful to my deck's game plan.

I dunno. Any advice?

>>96150779
Proxy chads NEVER ask this

>>96150791
I use her in my bernard deck. Steal, sac, make a copy, untap with intruder alarm, there goes the board.

>>96150691
>run 38 lands and started with 2 in hand last Friday and didn't draw any of my other lands, or my fetch/ramp or my sol ring or my tutors
>scooped turn 5
>mfw check deck after scoop and would have gotten my first land on turn fucking 9

>>96150691
How the fuck did it take 1 hour to play 6 turns? My games usually go 10+ turns in that time

>>96150820
Yeah, sometimes that just fuckin' happens.

Stop That {G/W}
Instant
Exile target emblem.

>>96150871
Shit in the command zone can't be targeted
Yes, emblems exist in the command zone
But also how bad are you that emblems are a serious problem to you?

>>96150871
Come Back {W/W}
Instant
Phase in all permanents and players.

>>96150871
Something the matter anon? Encounter a certain someone recently?

>>96150876
Exile target commander, plane, scheme, or emblem in a command zone.
Draw a card.

>>96150815
Eh. I want her as commander.

>>96150882
Shadow Round 6BW
Enchantment - Curse
Enchant opponent
You and enchanted player have Shadow (All creatures controlled by a player with shadow have shadow and players with shadow can only be targeted by other players with shadow.)

>>96150909
Exiling a commander in the command zone wouldn't do anything.
And again, you can't target shit in the command zone

>>96150931
>Exiling a commander in the command zone wouldn't do anything.
it'll add {2} more to the commander tax
>you can't target shit in the command zone
you can't target the graveyard either btw

>>96150087
There is a poorfag version. It's called proxying.

>>96150931
>exile target commander (from anywhere)
>OR thing in the command zone
Might be what he meant!
You cant target shit that is suspended either except for yknow, when you can. New cards bring about new rulings

>>96150942
No, it wouldn't. Command tax is determined by the number of times its cast from the command zone, not when it comes out.
And while you can't (Normally) target a graveyard, you can target shit IN the graveyard. Stuff in the command zone, outside of commanders coming and going from it, can't be interacted with

Please Come Back - W U
Instant
Splittest Second
Just wake up. We miss you. Everyone misses you!!
Draw a card.

Wizards doesn't have any problem with it.

>>96150959
>New cards
Nigger that card was printed in the same damn set as Suspend. That ain't a "New ruling"

>>96150969
this but unironically please make legal

>>96150863
Yeah, it does, though I'm always blown away by people that say they run like 35 lands since if I'm running 38 and still getting fucked on during the rare happenstance, how are they managing with even less than me?

>>96150969
That's from a joke set.

>>96150969
I fully expect it to happen on day. Powercreep and MTG go together like pb&j.

>>96150965
>commander gets exiled from command zone
>opponent shrugs and brings it back to command zone
>tada {2} more to commander tax
lol
>you can target shit IN the graveyard
>but no you cannot target shit IN the command zone
>because i said so
>no i'm not going to give you an actual rule from the rulebook specifically saying this because i'm just pulling things out of my ass
kekw

>>96150976
You might actually be retarded anon congratulations

Jester Mox [0]
Legendary Artifact
Tap: Add one mana of any color. After you cast your next spell, gain an emblem that says "All your spells cost one more to cast"

>>96150965
>>96150942
neat, this happened to me the other day. let me know if I was wrong.

>turn 2
>I play taigam
>his turn 2
>dark rit -> entomb -> reanimate ->etali
>gets worst fears from his own deck, takes over my turn
>flickers my commander with my own teferi's timetwist, choosing to exile it forever
>sacrifices my fetch land and fails to find
>tells me my entire deck is useless now lol
>call him a fucking cunt and leave

im still pissed

>>96151027
Superlight Raised Golden Foil Jester Mox Extended Art [0]
Legendary Artifact
Tap: Add one mana of any color. You get an emblem with "your spells mana costs can't be increased."

>>96150988
903.1 says that command tax is explicitly only added on cast.
And there's currently no rule about being able to target stuff in the command zone, since nothing can do it in actual magic, closest is 408.1 that says that shit in the command zone isn't a permanent and can't be destroyed. So I will concede I am currently wrong, though it doesn't change the fact that such a card would be nearly always useless.

Mox Mox [0]
Artifact
WBURG, tap: Add 5 colorless mana

>>96151027
I like this idea actually maybe a counter that goes away on the end step of your next turn or something. All game is too long but a temporary burst of mana for a big drawback like that would be neat.

>>96151031
The controller of a commander doesn't choose whether to put it back into the CZ or not; the owner does.
>"If a commander is in a graveyard or in exile and that card was put into that zone since the last time state-based actions were checked, its owner may put it into The Command Zone. If a commander would be put into its owner’s hand or library from anywhere, its owner may put it into The Command Zone instead. This replacement effect may apply more than once to the same event."

>>96151041
>though it doesn't change the fact that such a card would be nearly always useless
as long as your opponent doesn't have command beacon and co. you've essentially done an aven interrupter + cantrip for 1 mana on an opponent's commander. not useless at all

>>96151031
He is wrong, he can't force the commander to stay in exile since it coming back is part of the card's effect. The worst he could've done is force you to get extra command tax by rerouting it to command zone when it exiled initially. Unless he also somehow had an "End the turn" effect in which case your commander WOULD stay exiled.

>>96151069
Man, your mind is going to be completely annihilated when I tell you about the card "Counterspell"

>>96151083
>2 mana
>doesn't cantrip
>worse than mana drain
Pass.

>>96150779
Draft chads always win

>>96150969
Why are the bits on test cards so much better than jokes on actual cards, Un sets and silly UB stuff?

>>96151089
Haha time for arcane denial arguments

>>96150986
>muh joke set
the cheese stands alone became barren glory btw
>>96151122
i suspect it's because the humor is in the gameplay itself rather than actual attempts at jokes having to be reviewed first by the sensitivity department to avoid melties on reddit

>>96151122
Test cards are similar to how Un-cards in the first few sets were, namely unglued and unhinged, but also a bit of unstable too. Unfinity just went and fuckin' ruined unsets permanently though by simultaneously trying to be wacky and zany, but also serious, and it ended up actual garbage

>>96151144
Lel I made that image. Glad to see it being posted around

>>96151146
I'm aware that there are occasionally cards that escape silver border. The difference with those and that is that the ones that got a black border treatment did stuff that was already feasible within the existing rules of the game. They didn't have to fuckin' rewrite a section of the comprehensive rules to get the cheese stands alone to function as a card.

>>96151145
>mfw uniggers forget their stifle cards

>>96151163
>They didn't have to fuckin' rewrite a section of the comprehensive rules just to make certain cards work
i see you're too young to have experienced 6ED lol

>>96151190
Does that tie into specifically barren glory?

>>96151043
Shit that's the perfect Un set card. Crazy how it wasn't a part of the original few sets

>>96150605
Apologize to Angus right now!

>>96151203
the point is anything in the game can be targeted if it's mentioned on the card (only reason emblems are untouchable is because no card ever talks about destroying them) and doing so isn't the gigantic rules shakeup you think it is especially in comparison to what they did back in 6ED

What legendaries should be in my commander cube?

>>96150969
This really would be cool to see legal in paper.

>>96151256
Vivi and Shadow for sure

>There's no playing nice in commander
Wonder if they guy still thinks so after I swapped to my best deck and ran him out of the game first 3 times in a row before he even had a creature on the board.

>>96151366
if anything you pretty much confirmed it

>>96151366
Playing nice and sportsmanship are different things anon

>>96151366
>I acted like a faggot
>bet he thinks people don't act like faggots now
what

>>96151366
>things that never happened
lmao you didn't kill anyone before they could play a dork

>>96151366
>i'm a stinky little virgin dork
ok?

>>96151366
an armed society is a polite society

>>96151366
>i intentionally mismatched power levels to shit up a 4 player board game
is this a flex?

>>96151366
There's no playing nice in board games but my best bros are still my best bros no matter what happens in the cut throat games we play.

I did this today

>be based kefka, designated archenemy
>turn 8, have reanimated grand abolisher
>chaos warp + radiate all permanents
>draw a fuckton of cards
>windfalls, everyone draws 30
>have parnesse, cast show and tell, mayhem
>underworld breach
>cast radiate on relm's sketchings, copy all permanents
>cast radiate on metamorphose targeting a random basic.
>everyone's permanents go ontop of their library, lands on top
>I have everyone's boards, and they have 20 lands on top of their library
>swing out with 2 craterhoofs+eldrazi

and it was based as hell

>>96151400
>Smug prick gives a shitty excuse for his own bad play patterns
>Do the same
Yes, teaching scumbags is a flex.

>want to pimp out a deck
>can never stick to just one deck long enough

>>96151366
sounds like you proved it

>>96151366
This never happened.

>>96151422
You don't have a favorite above favorites deck?

Decks with this vibe?

>>96151416
>winning is a bad play pattern
>but then after i lost i acted like a massive faggot and ruined everyone's fun
>this is a flex
oh my GOD

Is there an archetype name for something that's more control than midrange but actually lets people play their shit and you deal with it in on the battlefield unlike heavy control decks?

>>96151465
removal

>>96151465
control but just replace all the counterspells with board wipes and spot removal

If phyrexian arena isn't a good card then black market connections is a horrible card. 15 dollars and 3 mana to lose 1 to 6 life s turn?

>>96151486
>why is a card that does 3 times as many things at the same cmc better????

>>96151486
Does it have an etb trigger?
No? Mid at best.

>>96151495
>etb trigger?
this was not the contention of the person you're mocking

>>96151432
Changes with the seasons. I'm at 150+ decks of which I play like 30 regularly.

>>96151465
Group hug ;)

>>96151501
Perhaps he should not have made that claim then.

>>96151510
he did not, no matter how much you try to misconstrue it

>>96151513
>3 mana, does nothing when it enters
Yes he did. Sorry he (you) said something so fucking dumb, and no I will not let you forget it.

>>96151486
This guy draws you card a turn earlier

>>96150491
must be sad being so bitter all the time

Add it to the fucking list of "we didn't test it properly"

>>96151517
>does nothing when it enters
is not the same as
>does not have an etb trigger
When something like Rhystic Study enters the battlefield, the game changes for everyone else before a single trigger even takes place. Phyrexian Arena doesn't do a single thing until your next upkeep. Your ignorance is showing again, retard.
>>96151523
I am amazed they still have these problems.

>>96151530
They can't even use the excuse of "oh it only happens once a year! maybe less!!" because.. wellllll........

>>96151530
Yes anon, they are literally the same thing, that's why there a mechanic for it.
Sorry, you said something monumentally retarded and you will just keep coping to try and backpedal instead of just not being retarded in the future.

>>96151523
STOP HITTING YOURSELF STOP HITTING YOURSELF STOP HITTING YOURSELF STOP HITTING YOURSELF STOP HITTING YOURSELF STOP HITTING YOURSELF STOP HITTING YOURSELF

>>96151560
>aaaaaaAAAAA COPEE!!!
Concession accepted. Please learn to understand game mechanics in the future!

>>96151530
It synergize with eerie and constellation trigger for one.

>>96151465
Control...

>>96151564
>Game mechanics
I'm am 100% discussion game mechanics.
Rhystic has on ETB trigger, it does exactly the same as Phyrexian arena when it enters.
What you are trying to talk about is game theory.
Once again, you have proven yourself a retard.

>>96151530
>the game changes before anything
No..? What a retarded thing to say.

>>96151486
Phyrexian Arena is a garbage card. BMC is merely mid. Neither should be in your deck, black has a myriad of excellent instant/sorcery draw. One card on your turn starting next turn doesn't cut it anymore.

>>96151523
Sorry, but until there's an official reprint what's on the card is how it works.

>>96151613
What was wrong with this again

>>96151634
it didnt say "another" so it could target itself leading to infinite loops

>haven't spent a cent on the last 3 sets
Not buying edging
Not buying spiderman

>>96151457
Anything from murders at Markov manor or the Mario kart set

>>96150491
>anime ubs
>anime site
>anime proxies
what the fuck you are doing here redditor kun?

We come closer to having viable entirely anime decks every single set and I can't wait.

how does one build k'rrik? and not get stomped

>>96151753
Lifegain?

>>96151691

>>96151523
SUMMON OBLITERATOR FAGGOT COME ON I DOUBLE DARE YOU

Is it just me or is this super powerful? I feel like you would be able to get out so many lands extremely quickly, but I've never seen anyone else really talk about her

>>96151523
I’m probably retarded but what am I missing here?

>>96151847
green was about to have straight up removal

>>96151847
>Target creature, any creature
>So it could be an opponents creature
>So it could just commit suicide

>>96151826
yeah but they made her black

>>96151847
Green's very first unconditional Murder. It would've been GLORIOUS

>>96151862
Yep I am retarded for not seeing it is missing the ‘creature you control’ part, but the original poster is right about WotC being completely retarded.

>>96151523
More flavorful to keep it as printed. I bet it was printed as intended but at the last minute Maro forced the errata because of his colortism.

If I exile a commander this way, does the card still need to stay in exile for bishop to gain that +x/x? Also, would bishop get */* for my opponent’s lands if Ashaya was the one exiled?

>>96152011
The commander, if moved from exile to the command zone, is no longer exiled. The vampire would receive no buffs since there's no longer a creature in exile
>The ability that defines Ashaya's power and toughness applies in all zones, not just the battlefield
Answers your second question.

>>96152011
I believe if it was a single ability the bishop wouldn't need the card to remain exiled, but as it is, yes it references 'the exiled card' so it needs to remain exiled.
yes, the characteristic defining ability defines in all zones.

>>96152011
A useful rule to remember is that (in almost every scenario) any time a card changes zones, the game loses track of it/it becomes a new object. So if there's an exiled commander that someone moves to the command zone, the game forgets what got exiled

>>96152025
>>96152027
>>96152039
Thanks

>>96149434
So, egg it is. Is he/she cute?

>>96149669
it works however you arrange the replacements, if you create a squirrel token, you can make took make a food, clue, and treasure token

Oh so black just gets to kill artifacts in addition to enchantments at instant speed now?

>>96152118
That says creatures or spacecraft tho', my sword is safe for now

>>96151366
I'm very upset at this post

>>96151523
AI card moment

Which deck has this vibe?

>>96152228

>>96152228

>>96152259
I feel like he'd be 3-4 mana if printed today.

>>96152275
Kamigawa block is famously overcosted.

>>96152228

>>96152228
>>96152428
forgot pic

I've got this precon laying around.
https://moxfield.com/decks/dDRyzSWi_kegywH3X_WtQA
Thinking of either pulling it apart (got the Jeskai artifact deck from EoE coming in, not sure how well they'd mesh together) or rebuilding it as something else.
Any suggestions?

>>96152435
Best proposal so far. That seems like a really chill deck.

>>96146303
Cards could be cool and all, and really appreciate your effort. I actually like some cards. But fuck that fugly AI art.

>>96152491
>>96152435
Jasmine is a great deck.

>>96147862
If you're gonna add Vampire Nighthawk, add Qarsi Revenant instead.

>>96152247
>KoS giga ramp deck is chill
i suppose you mean chilly

>>96152228
i do light group hug and use him as a mana dork to cast my favorite Jund spells

>>96152118
Black just gets to 'kill' everything these days. Commander is unironically why this is happening by the way. 10 years ago people would have just told you to run green in your modern deck if you wanted enchantment removal.

>>96152118
>>96152866
99,47287% of artifacts are not spacecraft
this is massively irrelevant flavor of the set interaction

>>96151523
>proofreading never ever failed anywhere else before, its l'over

>>96152943
What's wrong the monarch mechanic?

>>96151914
That isnt flavorful at all and I can guarantee you're wrong.
>>96153003
Grammar

>>96153003
>at the beginning your end step

>>96147223
Robotnik is his real name. Eggman is his villain name.

>>96152866
>Complaining about black draft filler removal
This thread's hopeless at magic lmao

>>96147223
>Not knowing the lore

>>96147200
SnooPING AS usual I see!

>>96148183
Grenzo all day
Don't for the "bottom deck manipulation" memes, its a massive amount of mana for little payoff. stick to the creature ones only and the Cauldron of Eternity.
My list runs 60 creatures and 4 non creature artifacts i intend to actually cast, rest of my mana goes into flipping stupid overcosted creatures that no one would or even should run elsewhere

>>96151344
What did you go with?

>>96151847
Target creature. Not target creature YOU CONTROL. So if your opponent had a 20/20 dragon and all you had was Birds of Paradise you could make the dragon kill itself by choosing it to attack itself.

>>96148527
A buddy of mine I met in church (catholic) is making all these religious themed decks. He's working on a Muslim deck currently with all these cards lol.

>>96153270
Based
I'm catholic and I play Giada, considering one of the Siguardas too

>>96146306
Found the simic player

>>96148527
>crusade is banned
>cathar's crusade isn't despite also being named for a genocide

>>96153293
Genocide had nothing to do with why crusade was banned

>>96153298
yeah it was only because it was against brown people

>>96152228

>>96153023
>>96152943
I see no problem this.

>>96153332
>Every other card is "at the beginning OF your end step"
>At beginning your end step

>>96153354
no him, but I didn't notice even when reading it 3 times, only after you pointed it out I actually saw it kek

>>96153332
nice.

>>96153332
You piece shit, you got me. Damn our brains auto filling sentences.

did they really black aragorn?

>>96152228
Norin

>>96153461

>>96152943
Never forget the energy wheel

>>96153560
That wasn't a case of missing a word, that card was just worded wrong.

>>96153560
What's the issue with the energy wheel?

>>96153461
No, the RGWU'd him

>>96153619
Wording basically made it so you could draw your deck and pay 0 energy. The intent was not that, but their shitty wording required them to eratta it because the incorrect intention is what you got if you followed the wording of the card.

>>96153625
Considering everyone hates black Aragorn you'd think he wouldn't be in the top 3 most popular LOTR commanders.

>>96153650
Players like winning more than they hate woke

>>96153688
is he even good? I saw he did a decent job in canlander but thats a 20 life format

>>96153650
he's that high up despite being blackwashed. he would be even higher if his design was true to the books.

>>96153274
Sigarda is really cool, I'm wanting to get her Champion of Light version next time I buy some cards

>>96153714
Dunno, but it's generic good stuff in 4 colors, people seem to like that

>>96153625
I fucking hate how much I like that card but won't play black Aragorn out of principle

>>96153750
Based for sticking to your principles
The card you posted never fails to make me kek because of the edit

>>96153780
post the edit, I need to save it for future use and can't find it anymore

>>96153792
I don't have it on hand unfortunately, anybody got it?

>>96153318
This seems the opposite of chill. This sounds like "come at me, table"

>>96153688
Given how this general acts they could make an "Uber ring" 1 cmc tap produce 4 colorless and they wouldn't use it because it was from the Legends of Bratz Dolls UB

>>96153815
You would have to be a shitter of the highest tier to put a Bratz doll in your deck

>bought a pack
>store owner gives me herald's horn and cabal ritual
>the two cards are worth more than the pack
>pull shit from the pack
>doesn't matter, herald's horn is going to my merfolk deck

>>96153832
I too enjoy herald's horn

>win with rakdos aristocrats budget
>people leave the pod to go outside for a break when they die, barely pay attention, barely acknowledge my win
>win with gruul power matters combat damage goodstuff
>people glued to the table after I kill them to see how the match ends, compliments left and right on how fun it is to play against
people only respect power

>>96153807
fucking hell, looks like I have to do it myself later

Is it a good time to buy a bunch of fetch lands? Flooded strand for reference.

>>96153736
The reason is the vast majority don't care that he is blackwashed.

>>96150491
look where you are nigger

>>96153886
>It's an anime site!
And amazon is a book store.

>>96153892
It do be like that

>>96153847
I like aristocrats but its a pretty boring playstyle yeah. People wanna see flashy stuff and gruul is perfect for that.

>>96153892
They let me self-publish my gay dragon romance novel so I have that going for me.

>>96153923
based and gay bolas pilled

I always have at least one of these dragons built, I need some finding a good niche for some of the dragons. Here's what I got at the moment.

Crosis, the Purger: I have in the past used him as my biggest dumbest battlecruiser commander but I think it's time to update it.

Darigaaz, the Igniter: I like throwing any new "the rock" style cards in here and doing some basic jund churning. It's also where my worldgorger combo lives. The deck is weak but its fun.

Dromar, the Banisher: I have played this as a counterpost style deck and it can be miserable to play against according to my local table because I have a hard time actually finishing the game. I have also tried some eldrazi/robot beatdown builds and found them to be pretty weak.

Intet, the Dreamer: This deck is a splintertwin deck. I think the colors are boring and the dragon is pretty weak even for this list. I have given some thought to taking apart gay kings and making this a group hug deck idk though.

Numot, the Devastator: I like playing this as a fliers deck.

Oros, the Avenger: basically your typical orzhov guildmage deck. giving oros lifelink can be funny. Has a few very convoluted doomsday lines.

Rith, the Awakener: this dragon sucks, I have been toying with some kind of spellslinger token strat trying to abuse mizzix mastery.

Teneb, the Harvester: I could really use some help making something less generic with. It's currently a dedicated necrotic ooze deck and I find that boring.

Treva, the Renewer: I've built it in a lot of different ways but at the moment I prefer a counterpost strategy and thats a reason why dromar is not being played that way.

Vorosh, the Hunter: My first EDH deck and the frustrating decks I have had the displeasure of revisiting on a regular basis. The math just does not work for his ability, I can count on one hand the amount of times he went undisrupted long enough to run the table in some kind of counter or control package. I really need help here.

>>96153650
>tfw I have dawn of a new age alt art and its just black aragorn

I want to run the card… but it annoys me slightly

>>96153811
Chill guy isn't chill he's secretly smug. He'd absolutely play counter spell table "just to calm the table down".

>>96153892
upvoted

>>96153869
Probably. I could see them go lower whenever they next print them. You should stick with onslaught printing if you care about the price at all.

>>96154084
Truth hurts.

>>96153869
Seems like its currently the best time its ever been for as far as that graph goes

https://archidekt.com/decks/14596458/squaller

I added cataclysm, wand of orcus instead of lost jitte(robe of stars if I pull it), and plague reaver (replacing crafter?) but plague reaver might be a bit too hard core.

>>96153869
Considering enemy fetches are still in the dumpster after MH2 (4 years ago) I doubt they're gonna go up significantly unless there's a significant injection of players in 60-card formats like Legacy and Modern.

>>96154139
i wish election tourist fuck off for good

>>96154124
>You should stick with onslaught printing if you care about the price at all.
They cost 2-3 times as much as the KTK versions.

>>96153892

>>96154244
>15+ year old banner
oof

What is the general price range for a "budget" deck? $100?

>>96154348
There are budget Zada/Winota decks you can build for like $10. I'd say anything less than $100 would be considered budget, others would say less than 50

>>96154348
Yeah any rational person would put it around 100 USD

>>96154348
Yes

>>96154348
Yes. Anyone who says some absurd number like 25 is taking the piss.

>>96154364
>>96154369
NTA but what cost point do you think a deck goes from "reasonable" to "man the harpoons we have a whale"?

>>96154348
Around that yeah. You can go lower in theory but you start needing to make significant compromises if you do.

>>96154394
~100 is budget to me
Anywhere from a bit over that to like...
Eh 400 500 USD id call normal decks sadly. And over 500 id call you a loser.

>>96154394
Entirely depends on the person. I see anything over $100 as suspicious, and anything above $200 is sweaty level

>>96154348
$150.00
for 100 bucks you can probably try to build a deck but anything in 3+ colors probably needs lands to function unless you are relying heavily on green ramp and even then, good lands are more than just a nicety.

>>96154394
When it leaves three digits.

>>96154394
Hard to really say because someone might just have expensive cards from cracking packs 10+ years ago.
Rather than a price benchmark, my whale alarms start ringing when there's a ton of special and premium treatments in the deck. Like all expedition fetches.

>>96154232
Yeah and they'll stay that way. We all know you're going to buy the other printings now and then moan when they go even lower next time.

>>96154348
$30 bucks if you want it Chinese fancy. $5 if you diy. $100+ bucks if you're a slop pig consoomtard.

>>96151649
because we are saving all our money for the set of the year. the waifus will be glorious. they cant fuck this up by blackening half the cast for some woke quota.

>>96154451
based anti consumer. Fuck customers. Corporations are based

>>96154460
No one gives a fuck about Avatar and no one in the series is white.

So EOE has literally one or two good commanders at best?
What a stinker of a set.
I'll buy a few singles then leave it.

>>96154473
fucking sonic sold out. at this point it doesnt even matter. everything will sell out.

>>96154473
look how DEI woke EOE is. Now imagine Avatar. oof.

>>96154480
sonic took a week to sell out.

>>96154486
You say this every fucking set

>>96154476
they said beforehand that due to UB sets being full of legendary creatures they'll tone it down for in universe sets.

>>96154510
source it or fuck off.
Tarkir and Aetherdrift didnt have this issue.

>>96154515
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/775875657091661824/since-the-ub-sets-are-getting-a-high-amount-of#notes

now bend over.

>>96154527
fuck you

>>96154527
why is mark such a faggot.
>we are keeping legendary creatures for our big money slop sets
FUCK OFF

>>96154527
Why is Mark so based?
>we are keeping legendary creatures for our better designed UB sets
BASED

>>96154476
It has more cards I'll include in decks than every other set released this year combine.

>>96154540
I distinctively remember players starting to cry about too many legendaries in non-EDH products.

>>96154549
>better designed UB sets

>>96154451
Those are cool but
>not including the price of the printer

>>96154552
>too many legendaries in non-EDH products
There's literally no pleasing people
>There's too many legendaries!
>There's not enough legendaries!
>This set is too weak!
>This set is too powerful!
>Ugh I hate UB!
>Ugh I hate Aetherdrift!
>

>>96151523
This was changed due to printing the wrong text. Not because it was OP and they pulled an emergency change. They'd just day 0 ban it instead.
So, no, it isn't a case of not testing.

>>96154253
Feels like only yesterday

>>96154577
I'm just the messenger on it. I don't mind a billion legendaries. But non-EDH players whined because they get angry if EDH is touching their 60 card sets.

>>96154476
I'd run Eternity Elevator as my commander but I think it can't be even though every other spacecraft can?

>>96154616
somethingsomething "as long as it has a P/T box, it can be your commander" or whatever they said. It can be your commander

>>96154451
Thats like a 5000 dollar printer he is standing in front of my guy

>>96154564
Stay mad UW slop fan

How much should I worry about other people's graveyards. I want to include graveyard hate but I don't know if it'll be pointless because I only have 1-2 pieces, or they hurt the overall consistency of my deck to try to push back against just one strategy type. I do find graveyard bs pretty oppressive, and I'm not sure if I'm just overestimating the strength.

>>96154646
its a matter of covering all the bases
>does player run a GY deck? ill need some graveyard hate
>no one is? its a wasted slot
you can sideboard cards in and out the deck depending on who you're facing if you wanna full autismo it.

>>96154564
He's not wrong though.

>>96154646
Very few decks run massive graveyard interaction/reanimation. I can say that none of my decks have any GY hate

>>96154646
I toss that nigga tormods crypt and call it a day but Im a casual kitchen tard that doesn't give a fuck about win rates

>>96154646
I dont run gravehate because invalidating an entire theme with one card is really boring and no other themes have this problem

>>96154705
this is why I don't run board wipes and I bitch at everyone who uses boardwipes against my board-based strategy

>>96154705
I'll bet you play boardwipes

>>96154711
>>96154715
My decks generally wont have more than 2 board wipes in them because they are for bad players. I'll just use my single target removal to destroy the pieces disrupting my win and still win.

But, boardwipes do not invalidate an entire theme. They just set it back.

>>96154729
graveyard destruction does not invalidate an entire theme. They just set it back.

>>96154729
cool story

>>96154745
You're welcome to think that but they are not analogous
>>96154746
What was it like being raised by a single mother anon?

>>96154756
>You're welcome to think that but they are not analogous
elaborate then. It's not like playing a bojuka bog means that they can't refill their graveyard

what are the best cards to shut down a combo player?
his just destroying our casual table by doing land and pass until turn 6 or so then just combos and wins.
I tried to use a removal on his commander which enabled the combo and his like "its already on the stack, removing the commander does nothing".
My friends and I are trying to have fun but this one guy just ruins it for us.

>>96154646
The only dedicated graveyard hate I put in every deck is Scavenger Grounds or Bojuka Bog. Other than that I don't care, if I have a consistent pod where someone is being a graveyard dip I'll just build a deck that punishes them for cycling creatures.

>>96154729
>ah yes, I'm such a good player that I just stop people from having an entire board by the sheer strength of my skill

fucking lmao some of you larpfags

>>96154851
LD his bitch ass away, he can't cast his gay combos without lands

>>96154394
When a deck gets up to €1000 I feel like it has to be cEDH (not counting blinged out decks etc.)

>>96154889
>remove key pieces
Is not keeping them from having a board. You do not need your opponents to have nothing to win what a bizarre sentiment

>>96154890
whenever he gets pissed off, he pulls out this deck.
is this commander/card aids as I think it is?

>>96154851
Don't play with him

>>96154851
Maybe swing your fucking creatures at him???? How are new players this bad
>how do I stop the guy who has no defenses!!!

>>96154851
1. attack him and kill him
2. summary dismissal
3. consign to memory the trigger
4. destroy the combo pieces before the commander resolves
5. use stax on whatever his commander is.
related

>guy is playing his turn
>plays *random blue card*
>k
>now I will cast thassas oracle, I win
>????
>oh yeah, this card I cast let's me mill my library on ETB, so I dont have a library
>well then we need to go back to that fuckin etb
>you already know what I'm going to do, so this is cheap
>everyone knows to kill the person milling their library
>cries and whine hards

>>96154851
really just depends on what the combo is

>>96154926
I think you may need to elaborate what your friend is doing. We have no idea what's happening at your table. I also don't see how one Sharuum trigger turns into a combo.

>>96154972
he flickers it like 10+ times in a single turn and does some solitare shit where he just wins.

>>96154981
figuring out how he actually wins would be a good first step in stopping him from winning

>>96154999
>hurr these two cards are infinite loop i win
>has 10+ these combos in the deck
you stop 1 but he has 9 more.

>>96154981
Then destroying his commander should kill the combo. Unless he can pull a flicker spell out of his ass. Or you slot in some instant speed graveyard hate.

>>96155004
Swing your creatures at him shitter or exile his graveyard

>>96150365
>traded a bunch of shit into a shop at Mc Vegas for ~$700 credit.
>got final fantasy slop instead of rl staples
I got caught up in ff hype and regret it.

>>96155004
figure out what those combos are and how to stop them
kill him before the combos matter
talk to him before game about deck power levels
if all of the above fails just dont play with him

>>96155004
>>96154926
ok so looks like you have 2 ways to do this.

1. run stax or just graveyard hate. Leyline of the void, lantern, relic of progentius, rest in peace, grafdiggers cage, etc
2. based torpor orb turning off etbs
3. dont blink - the blue spell that stops creatures from entering from exile
4. give his commander shroud so he cant blink it

>>96153270
I have the perfect commander for his Jewish deck

ATTACK THE FUCKING COMBO PLAYER ITS THAT SIMPLE

>>96154851
The right removal is the answer but I prefer to run stuff like mana denial or chaos effects.
Sure you could get lucky and flip what you need off of p.storm but idk maybe you wont.
>costs 5 mana
like I said removal first, then add fun effects.

>>96155187
Sorry. My basic birch threat assessment says you have more stuff on the board and he just has a bunch of stuff in his graveyard and a lot of cards in hand.

>>96155004
Is he doing this or something else? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyOwbj7ZAf8

>>96154924
considering you have 3 opponents presumably working towards some kind of win condition, a 4 cmc board wipe is efficient removal. at 6 cmc you can even start removing multiple permanent types.
this breaks down at high enough power levels but honestly I don't care at that point.

>>96155187
No you don't understand the guy with a couple 2/2s is infinitely more threatening than the guy who ramped 3 turns in a row with a Reliquary Tower out

>>96155074

>>96155187
but he might feel bad :(

>>96155274
It's ok I only attacked him because I rolled dice and it landed on his number! :)

diediediediediedie

when does a tribal deck stop being a tribal deck?

>>96155377
My elf tribal deck is Selvala explorer returned and 10 elves including titty priest so it counts

>>96155226
4cmc isnt one sided so no that doesnt do what you want and again this doesnt change the fact that board wipes are a crutch for bad players who dont have the threat assessment to recognize what pieces are actually stopping them from winning ^.^

>>96155377
All your creatures should say the tribes name somewhere on them, either the creature line or the effect.

>>96155377
I am a pretty hard liner, I only consider decks tribal if every creature is of X-tribe OR
If not of the tribe, their abilities/effect explicitly references the tribe. Dragonlord Servant for example.

If the deck contains creatures that are neither the type, nor their abilities directly reference the type. Then its not tribal, starts to morph into goodstuff. I have a friend whose started with a merfolk tribal deck, but it contains so many not-merfolk, i consider it just goodstuff.

>>96155366
You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling.

>squall deck
>elf player has 25+ lands he ramped out with in one turn
>cast pic rel
>soul guide lantern all graveyards
>does a 180 on how happy and how he thought he was going to win

>>96155377
It stopped being tr*bal when it got renamed as kindred, chud.

>>96155498
You can't run that if Dawnsire is your commander though.

>>96154646
not decicated cards, but cards that have diferent modes are great, i run rakdos charm in case of graveyard shenanigans and end it using more often to burn people who overextend going wide

>>96154646
I wouldn't focus on it much. The vast majority of games you won't need it. At most variable stuff like Return To Nature that can hit field or graveyard. Otherwise it's not really worth it.

>>96155513
You aren't funny btw

>>96155439
does writing with a sharpie count?

>>96155614
Only if you are proxying it into an actual tribal card.

Is there a better alternative? Three mana to copy your next spell twice seems good

>>96155834
bonus round, display of power

I have kessig flamebreather with curiosity and harmonic prodigy. I cast a non-creature spell. Do I draw 6 or 12 cards?

>>96155887
6

>>96155887
You ping 6 times and may draw 6 times, assuming 3 opponents.

>>96155909
>>96155914
thanks, I was hoping the enchantment gets triggered twice too in some way, similar to how power doubling works with modified creatures

>>96155887
Where on earth are you getting twelve anon

>>96155930
>equipment gives 1/1 creature +1 power, making it 2
>doubling power spell increases creature's power to 4
so from there, I wondered
>enchantment gives creature a trigger
>doubling trigger increases creature trigger to 2
something like that, so draw 1+1 for each instance of damage dealt

>>96154646
I just run Titania's Command since that way if nobody but me is dipping into the graveyard it can fetch lands and that's still value

>>96154851
Bro just hit him with the funny the instant you see the combo start

>>96155929
Curiosity isn't a shaman or wizard, but something like this would do it.

>>96155954
I hope they make a new version of this that only says "opponents spell" so it can be played fairly.

>>96154952
I did not know this card existed and now I'm going to buy one just to fuck on a friend that plays a commander that forces permit sacrifices, thanks anon

>UB """slop"""
>Fallout, Assassin's Creed, and Final Fantasy, some of the most widely acclaimed stories in media history
>UW """not slop"""
>Two gay dragons having sex for 5 paragraphs

>>96155986
How will anti-UB shills ever recover?

>>96155929
the enchantment watches for when the creature deals damage and produces its own trigger when that happens. it would be 12 draws if the enchantment said "enchanted creature has "whenever this creature deals damage to a player, draw a card"" because then it would be an ability of the shaman.
also it would work if it was a tribal enchantment - wizard aura, but ignore that.

>>96155942
Youre a silly fella

>>96155986
>Two gay dragons having sex for 5 paragraphs
I fail to see a problem here??

>>96156033
That's because you're a faggot

i would be anti ub if magic had a single good character or story in the past 15 years

Speaking of UB slop, how fun is this guy?
Seems like you just lose if he gets farewelled/sacced too many times.

>>96154851
HOW TO BEAT COMBO PLAYERS, A GUIDE FROM SOMEONE THAT REGULARLY DESTROYS COMBO PLAYERS
>Run instant speed interaction. No, more than that. Your ass is running exactly 2 points of interaction you should have 5-10 and be able to remove things other than creatures
>Actually hold it up instead of tapping out every turn like a dumbass or trying to curve your removal on the first available target
>Read the cards your opponents are playing so you know what to get rid of (if this step is too hard, accept the fact you will lose games to illiteracy; alternatively you can take a shortcut where if a card is going to be used more than twice in one turn it's likely important)
COMMON ISSUES
>I don't wanna run interaction it's not fun!
Multiplayer game. If you don't want to do this don't complain about a combo player being better at show-and-tell than you.
>I don't like running instant speed spot removal because I only want to run boardwipes that hit everyone, which are mostly sorcery speed!
Everyone does not always develop their board at the same pace. You will need to add instant speed spot removal to your decks even in battlecruiser because in almost every game, someone will have a faster start than everyone else. Spot removal costs much less mana than a boardwipe and does not have the aforementioned blind spot of not doing anything if it never gets back to your turn once the threat appears.
>He always has it!
No, you just think that.

>>96156049
I am kinda new to magic but when I've looked into magic in the past to see if I could find a card that inspired me to make a deck to play I was always cringing at like the 10 recycled characters that reappear as planeswalkers and on other cards over and over and over again. It makes MTG look like a very shallow pond when it comes to the lore/aesthetic/world building than what people try to convince you.

If I'm making a mono-green deck with loads of ramp, like at least 15 ramp spells/abilities, should I drop down from 38 Forests to fewer since I will be less likely to not have enough lands, or keep/increase my quantity of Forests to ensure I can always get more?
As long as I have a land drop turn two and/or three depending on which ramp card I have to start with, then I should be good with perhaps one or two fewer, but perhaps I'm not thinking straight?

>>96156084
the lore never recovered from the jacetice league and its consequences

>>96156002
>"enchanted creature has"
that's a very helpful hint, thanks

>>96156117
This is something I'll always agree on with sloppers, but does that mean Spongebob is ok?

>>96156049
When was Sigarda? I like her and Gideon

>>96156057
take the brokkospill

>>96155986
I, for one, want more time spent on the budding romance between gay dragons.

>>96156160
sigarda is from original innistrad. everyone thought gideon was from alara but they changed his design and said he was from greece the whole time and had a different name actually.

>>96156116
If you miss a land drop but have ramp in hand, then you should've put in a forest rather than the ramp card.

>>96156157
hard to say but it does mean im a lot less bothered by it since i dont really care about the story/lore anymore

>>96156117
This but the Urza league

>>96156185
Absolutely, so I guess I need to goldfish the first three or so turns a bunch. Once I've got a couple of lands down then I'm golden.

>>96156163
>mutate from graveyard
God I fucking love it so much. My pod runs very little exile removal so I just keep recasting him over and over and wipe the table

>>96156244
i liked the weatherlight saga

>>96156273
I'm not a fan of "and then Guff remembered he could have just stopped everything from happening whenever he had wanted." It's even worse than the shit that happened with Phyrexia

>>96156282
yeah it aint perfect but i still liked it overall and i will take guff and any other titan over literally any nu planeswalker honestly

>Max limit of image replies has been reached.
new thread when

I have to take a shit real bad, commanders for this feel?

>>96153643
today i ate 0 apples, 0 glue sticks and 0 V8 engines. i declared that i would do anyway, so i actually did eat them

>>96155377
The moment you put in a non-tribal creature card because it has an ability you want. At that point you've lost the spirit of what the deck is supposed to be.

Changelings are an exception.

>>96156435
One of the Nurgle 40k UBs I guess?

>>96156057
>Seems like you just lose if he gets farewelled/sacced too many times

name 55 (fifty-five) commanders where this isn't the case, especially Voltron commanders

>>96155377
I have the opposite problem where everyone thinks I'm playing a tribal deck because my commander cares about a specific creature type.

I appreciate that my friends are thinking of me, but I don't need to put every U/G creature with the word 'salamander' on it into the deck.

>>96153750
same man, I've been waiting for a new 4 color pile for ages

>>96155986
I assume anti-UB posters are just bitter non-binary/troons/non-whites made that sets are getting made that aren't about magic black afro woman girlboss or gay dragons or he-shes saving the day.

>>96155986
>>96156592
>because [OTHER MEDIA] adapted through UB doenst have the exact same kind of "problems"

i give this bait 0 points

>>96156592
>ignoring the fact that Blackagorn and friends drew in massive amounts of troons/groids/etc
Almost got me too

>>96156553
It's so gay you have to ask people to play the nephilim. Especially the ones in colors that only have one commander and partners available

>>96154646
not only is it oppressive but it's rampant and many MANY non grave centric strategies accidentally use it anyway these days. always pack your grave hate bros, don't leave home without it. ones I run for other synergy effects
>ghost vacuum, hearse
can reanimate late game or eats a removal for one of your more important pieces
>stone of erech, soul lantern and even nihil spellbomb
cantrips so opportunity cost is minimal
>bojuka bog
goes in every deck with black
>espers to magicite
new toy, still untested so might be too costly but it seems fun
>RIP
ol' reliable but does cost a card

>>96154851
counterspells. that's it, sadly

>>96155187
>ok I take twenty
>anyway, my turn I combo off
this is how that goes down EVERY TIME

>>96155377
one year ago when they changed it to kindred

>>96155581
>Return To Nature
Go replace that card with heritage reclamation in all of your decks now.

>>96156675
some of them are OP tho so I would propably not even get to enjoy them for their KoS status

>>96156084
This is what retards don't want to admit. Magic's "lore" has always been puerile basic bitch fantasy garbage. 99% of the playerbase doesn't give a shit about Karn or Jace, they don't care about Mirrodin or Dominaria. Making Magic have stories was one of the worst moves Wizards made. Every set should've just been vague allusions to characters and a larger story.

Phone baking, please wait 400 seconds

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>>96156728
If three people cant collectively take one person out then they deserve to lose sorry!