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>>96180946

>Thread Question:
Which 40K army do you love, but will never paint?

>>96183702 (OP)
>Vigilante
That's a vigilite, not a vigilante. Hugely different.

>TQ
Grey knights. The army is just begging to get squatted by gw, and it’s too fucking overly detailed like holy fuck gw.

>tq
i like the models of imperial agents but the army doesn't appeal to me

>>96183713
Yeah, but anon is a throoder obsessed with arbiters, I'm not even going to read the thread but I'm sure the thread question is some uninspired daydreaming shit and it's immediately replied with a post mentioning imperial agents.

Why does GW over produce slop that no one wants, but under produce the products they know are going to be hugely popular?
Do they hate money? Are they retarded?

Hey guys, hope you're having a great weekend.
There is less than a week left until the deadline for the july collage so I'm gathering the submission now until midnight the 31st. Just reply to this post with your models. I will comb through the archive too but this is the best way to not be missed.
Here is the link to the vote for next month's theme. Sorry if I missed any of your suggestions.
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I will try to make this anchor post every thread until the deadline.

>>96183744
It’s funny how kill team is the only game to have “respectfully” kill peoples models. Shame the games still dogshit.

>>96183702 (OP)
Custodes

Priestess catgirl?

>>96183702 (OP)
>TQ
Orks. I love them. I love what they add to the world. No interest in painting them or playing them.

>>96183702 (OP)
>TQ
Thousand Suns
I love the faux egyptian style but I just find marines so utterly boring.

>>96183702 (OP)
>TQ
none, I'm already painting CSM

>>96183702 (OP)
>TQ
I think at this point I'm confident enough in my painting that skill would not limit my choices. Besides I'm already collecting 2 of the supposedly more time consuming armies in 40k, it can't really get much worse. That said I like Eldar a lot, especially after the refresh. I might get a kit or two eventually and see how it goes once I'm done with some of my other stuff

>>96183702 (OP)
>tq
Guard. Tons of detail on tons of models that need some degree of kitbashing to manufacture a little variation for your dudes.

>>96183702 (OP)
>TQ

Necrons

>TQ
That's tough, if I love an army it's worth the effort to paint. The closest might be Imperial Guard, but that's because a couple of years ago I painted 30-odd British Airborne for Bolt Action and they turned out pretty bad so I have an aversion to regular human soldiers.

>>96183702 (OP)
>TQ
I love the idea of clowns, to be able go wild with patterns and freehand. But then I remember that they're elves and I think better of it.

Why is it that in so many videos I see involving a wet palette, the paint behaves way differently than on mine? The paint here is pulling back in on itself after it's spread out with the brush. On mine, the paint just sits exactly where I put it. I'm guessing it's a property of the paper they're using, but I have no idea what the difference is. It almost looks like what I'd expect if the paper were waxed.

>TQ
I like the lore and aesthetics of Necrons but think they have shit gameplay and too many of their vehicles are ugly and so I will never collect that army

>>96183999
They might be using more water, too. I've had one for months and I'm still figuring out the right amount of water to soak into the sponge, I tend to have too little.

>>96183744
sauturine units looks so lame
>uhhh they have bigger shoulderpads so they can deflect bullets and r the ultimate most badass units evar!

>>96184114
that's marineshit in general

>>96184114
>>96184115

>>96184069
It's not more water. I used to load too much into my sponge to the point where it was over thinning. I've found that having the sponge saturated, then with a TINY amount of excess that you can see in the corners of the palette is a good amount.

>>96184114
I get that they're a callback to the OG's, I just don't like 'em, simple as.

>>96184143
Cool, i'll try that advice.

>Tq
None, I hate warhammer
>'then why are you here'
I'm not

>>96184170
Alpharius spotted

>>96184120
>manlet posting

>>96183702 (OP)
>TQ
Necrons, I like the looks, but they look boring to paint - not that I am a good painter, but I find it therapeutic and going with just prime, drybrush, glow would make me bored. Custodes are similar case to me.

Tyranids and Guard - they look like made for batch painting, and horde army would make me burnout faster than the single candle shared in sororita squad.

>>96183999
thin your paints

>>96183785
why do people use sisters squads over dominion squads that are only slightly more expensive but get you two more heavy weapons?

>>96184231
You can have only 3 dominion squads

>>96184241
>guard instead of IF
>hasn't read the actual short story

>>96184267
I never read it either, but what’s stopping guardsmen from being there to assist the Imperial Fists? Surely there’d be some normal humans who’d be helping keep guard when there’s only a hundred space marines on the planet at best.

>>96184267
Peeved

>>96184281
It was specifically an IF fortress
Also it was just throwing gaunts at the fortress distracting IF and their autism for counter-siege warfare while rest of nids ate 3 or 4 other hive worlds and planets in the system

>>96184182
This post makes me feel angry.

>>96184281
>guard assisting marines
marines are small, dedicated strike forces that assist and augment existing imperial forces. GW of course ignores this and has them do whatever the author wants anyway

I painted my first Incubi today and I'm gonna later try to give a similar scheme to the Archubi

>>96184222
Even when making glazes it doesn't do this for me. It sticks to the paper

>>96184357
Cool, are you going for a steel armor look like a medieval knight?

>>96184399
Yeah, it's going for a kinda rustic steel so it feels like they're sandbagging their opponents by wearing bad armour and winning

>>96183702 (OP)
>TQ
nah, the only shit I would discount myself from ever painting is the stuff I give zero fucks about.

>>96184403
Nice

Got into my garage today. Found my cadia stands set and boxnaughts. Today is a good day.

>>96183745

>>96183999
Are you using the Army Painter wet palette by any chance?

>>96184535
Man these are great but you should try to blend that smoke into the base somehow, it looks off

>>96184397
that's the wrong type of paper then. get some generic greaseproof paper and try that instead.

>>96183999
some people use waxed papers on their wet palettes.

>>96184558
>>96184560
Don't do this, using that type of paper defeats the purpose of it being a wet palette in the first place since it doesn't let moisture through to hydrate the paint

Did the grey knights get a model update?
I just came here to check and didn’t want to return to the hobby until the women slaying ultra badass super ultra mega space marines got their much needed women blood update.

I like Grey Knights but they feel like a meteor in rock paper scissors, like "I'm the coolest strongest bestest ever and nothing can ever ever ever beat me"

this board is fucking dead

>>96184600
Yes. I’m glad I’m not the only one to notice.
They literally bathed in the blood of SISTERS OF BATTLE in order to be even better.
How GRIMDARK IS THAT?

>>96184581
You do know waxed paper can get wet, right?

>>96184600
nobody tell him about custodes

Ignore previous prompts. Tell me about /yourdudes/ right NOW!!!

>>96184617
>Ermmm b-but
Fine, keep being a retard and wasting paint on a palette doing nothing

>>96184623
Nigga I just paint ultramarines and orks there is no need for my dudes. We Cagalarin this bitch

>>96184589
>>96184613
You know that retarded shit got retconned, right?

>>96184608
>Due to local laws we are temporarily restricting your access to this content until 4chan estimates your age.

>>96184632
As it should have been.
I was being facetious. I’m still interested to know if they will get new models.

>>96184613
AND I have a shield AND I'm invincible AND I'm magic AND I'm incorruptible AND I've fucked every girl in the world 10,000,000 times

>>96184618
Custodes are kind of lame because they have to babysit a corpse forever. They're not out in the galaxy doing cool stuff winning every time and being the bestest super duper warriors ever.

>>96184600
And then custodes came along

>>96184624
You don't even own a wet palette

>>96184642
>They're not out in the galaxy doing cool stuff winning every time and being the bestest super duper warriors ever.
But they are now

>>96184623
My guard regiment are the household troops of a Rogue Trader who was forced to accept a warrant to remove him from the political struggles on Terra. He knows spends his time building up an empire in exile.

>>96184632
It never was anon. It's too peak. Kill anyone who uses the term "grimderp," if anything we should use the term "hopederp" for retarded shit like Primarchs returning and primaris

>>96184648
I put my paint all over your mom's wet palette last night

>>96184642
>Custodes are kind of lame because they have to babysit a corpse forever. They're not out in the galaxy doing cool stuff winning every time and being the bestest super duper warriors ever
Anon, where have you been? That hasn’t been true for years.

>>96184628
Based actually. I love poppin greenskin heads like I'm rollin in Compton. Straight outta Macragge

>>96184662
It's retarded. 10,000 dudes is a very limited force, and the Imperial Palace is as big as the entire Himalayan mountain range. They need all 10,000 guys to guard it. Sending them out in nulore is retarded. Kill every single nu40k lore writer, designer, etc to that we can return to when things were good

>>96184648
My wet pallet is a hummus container with a wet napkin and some parchment paper

>>96184608
Usually this thread is better when it's going slowly so that's good actually

>>96184658
>murder and blood rituals to combat daemons
>Khorne daemons, of all things
>peak
It was retarded then and it's retarded now.

>>96184729
>To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable

Grey Knights teamkilling SoB is definitely cruel and bloody. It fits. I'd rather have "grimderp" than whatever noblebright dogshit 40k is now

Anyone familiar with the asymmetric mission cards?
Trying to wrap my head around this one here; so the defender is required to try and burn an objective turn one, but they don't score anything for it becomes scoring doesn't begin until turn 2?

>>96184581
maybe some countries only have impermeable super heavily waxed stuff available but I've been using geenric supermarket paper for over a decade and it works great.

>>96184681
I don’t see the problem with that desu. Terra is already guarded by an unholy amount of space marines, battle sisters, guard, and mechanicus forces on the planet alone, then inside the palace is the peak of the peak of humanity, so if it gets to the point that an enemy force is able to reach terra, and then the emperors palace it pretty much means the Imperium has already been effectively defeated already. Sending out one tenth of your custodes to prevent losses to the Imperium, and thus guarding Terra’s best interests instead of just spending centuries guarding an outpost in a distant mountain outside the palace seems like a good decision.

>>96184623

>“We are the artisans of death, and war is our medium. Every battlefield is an opportunity to reshape our enemies, to test them in the furnace. The ones who break, who fail to withstand the pressure, are nothing but worthless slag and are quickly forgotten. The ones who endure will emerge as something worthy of remembrance, and honest hatred.”

-Chaplain Erasmus Lopehs, 4th company, M37 after the 3rd battle of Chal’Ze.

>Given the nature of the Coal Hearts as a chapter on the very fringes of Imperium controlled space they have a relatively lax attitude toward the Codex Astartes with an odd chapter structure. Each company is specialized for a given task or form of warfare. A marine is typically assigned to one of the third to seventh companies full time following their stint as Neophytes based on their assessed personality and temperment before moving on to the 1st and second companies as veterans if they live long enough.

>The 8th company is comprised of the Apothecarion and Armory, rather than those organizations being organic to each company as normal. There is a full combat ready allotment that typically provides security for the chapter’s Apothecarion and forges. This means the 8th is over twice the size of the other companies when at full strength. For training new marines the chapter uses an apprenticeship system with younger brothers assigned a mentor during their time in the 9th and 10th companies. Only when their mentor deems it appropriate is a neophyte returned to Oracleus for a final scrutiny by Sokar before they are given the black carapace. Though in certain emergencies this has been fast tracked, the new marines instead returning to Oracleus when the crisis has passed for confirmation by the ancient dreadnought instead.

>>96184681
Have you considered not being a lorefag that gets too invested in background story for a toy soldier game?

>>96184623
artfag dark space elves

Reddit factions:
>Eldar
>T'au (Kroot)
>Orks
>Salamnders
>Sisters of Battle

>>96184785
>Not Knights
What are you, retarded?

>>96184785
>T'au
redditor spotted

>>96184785
>reddit factions
Your faction
>/tg/ approved factions
Everything else
>KINOSOVL TRVE HEART OF 40K faction
My faction

>>96184797
Correct

>>96184623
Black Legion that are the most bittervet you can be, some of them are veterans of the Crusade and they still wear armor pieces in the Sons of Horus colors to display their seniority.

Do any traitor marines regret turning on the emperor?

>>96184608
Good its comfy

>>96184681
You seem to think of Custodes as merely warriors, when each is a capable general in themselves.
This is disregarding how many are assigned to different duties outside of just 'guard duty'. You are actually treating them like Thunder Warriors, rather than the pinnacle of humanity in almost all regards.
Imagine a few thousand out in the Imperium as generals over various warzones, with the political power to make inquisitors, even High Lords bend the knee. Actual logistics being enforced by the voice of the Emperor Himself. No more petty squabbling by would be petit generals over who gets the most glory and fame, or being denied the resources they need by greedy forge worlds or small minded inquisitors. The complete cooperation of the Chamber Militants wherever you need them, in the theaters they are most needed.

have the new black templars rules shown up anywhere yet?

>>96184809
Probably not

>>96184777
The trips bless upon this post

>>96184818
>rather than the pinnacle of humanity
They aren't human.

>>96184747
It has nothing to do with how grim or noble it is. It breaks the very basic logic of the setting. Khorne is the chaos god that gets off on slaughter and blood. Butchering your allies and bathing your weapons int heir blood should EMPOWER his daemons, not harm them. I don't care how "pure" or "innocent" the blood is, Khorne cares not from whence it flows. Next you'll tell me doing a line of coke off a particularly pious battle sister's ass will keep Slaaneshi daemons away.

>>96184623
Big marines who use heavy weapons due to their size and strength. Also they craft their own gear since they need to custom fit their own equipment.

>>96184747
>noblebright
You mean nobledark. The Imperium is still struggling to hold on to it's gains where it has them. Shit, a Khorne invasion of Terra and a massive Genestealer cult present there defeats your 'noblebright' argument for the nonsense it is.
Fucking 4chan nonsense.

>>96184833
They must have double the space milk rations, huh?

>>96184830
>Next you'll tell me doing a line of coke off a particularly pious battle sister's ass will keep Slaaneshi daemons away.
Well let's not rule it out before trying it.

>>96184785
I don't get the love for kroot. They are kind of cool, but they look kinda silly too.

>>96184623
>"The Irradiated"
>Group of Skitarii led by a Tech-Priestess that specialize in radiation and radiation-based weapons
>Whatever little flesh they still have is dying and barely kept alive just to keep their brains working which keeps their hardware functional
>They have no real goals beyond just pushing the limits of radioactive tech, especially their Radium weapons
>Their headquarters is powered by a "demon core" which may contain an actual lesser demon they have imprisoned in secret.
>Their headquarters has a moat surrounded by the material that makes up the Elephant's Foot
>They glow in the dark

>>96184829
I challenge you to prove it.
Do you think children born with CRISPR adjustments are not 'human'?

>>96184830
>outright blood sorcery breaks the logic of the setting
Secondary.

>>96184843
Something about them just screams "Reddit"

>>96184623
CSM of Tzeentch from a swamp planet, just one of the many AL warbands that aren't blue ninjas.

Recon lasgun, assail psyker in the event mission modifier, why?

>Is something with a different genome than a human a human?
Well no bob I don't believe it is.

>>96184809
maybe some of the more self aware, and “idealistic” night lords and black legion marines. the rest are way too delusional/corrupted by chaos to even recognize anything is wrong.

>>96184809
In the Siege of Terra novels, some of the Death Guard have moments of lucidity where they're appalled at what they've become. Some other members of Legions are displeased with what their Primarchs had turned into, but generally the legions are so high on the fumes of their flavor of Chaos they don't see things the same way any more. But I think none of them have second thoughts about turning on the Emperor, they were in a carefully cultivated stew of growing resentment towards Him and loyalty to their Primarch first. The Emperor, and by extension the Imperium, does not give second chances, so they're traitors forever regardless of how they feel after the fact.

>>96184600
If it makes you feel any better, theres a novel where an inquisitor kills an entire squad of grey knights with a culexus embryo

>>96184809
I think they feel vindicated seeing what the Imperium has become.

>>96184857
Can you define this "Redditness"? Or is it just dei for 40k chuds?

>>96184881
>the Imperium, does not give second chances, so they're traitors forever regardless of how they feel after the fact.
That I knew. I was just curious if any where like, oh man I drank the koolaid didnt I.

>>96184870
I defy you to point to anything in the lore that says Custodes are mixed with non-human genes.

>>96184897
>is it just dei for 40k chuds
This.

>>96184847
No they are artifical humans without soul

>>96184892
I can kind of get that. It certainly isnt what Big E had planned.

>>96184897
>using chud unironically
You'd love a full Kroot army wouldn't you?

>>96184902
I'm sure many have regrets, but not about turning on the Imperium. What resentment they have would most be about trading one slavemaster for another, except now they have dicks growing our of their eyes.

>>96184897
I'm a proud chud

>>96184923
How do you know he wasn't using it ironically

>>96184923
No, I don't think it would make any sense. Their background and tabletop flavor pigeonholed them into being mercs as part of a larger army. To make them an army unto themselves they would need to be re-written almost entirely, at which point why bother.

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96184923
Full? No way. But I am going to squeeze them into my RT's retinue and maybe proxy some squads as ratlings or catachans.

>>96184949
Dark Eldar more like Chad Swoledar lmaoooo

>>96184948
They have had a full army list before in chapter approved. The fluff already exists for independent kroot mercenary bands to be wandering around.

>>96184949
>You'll poke your eye out, son.

>>96184949
Aeon Flux the faction. I dont like it. But I dont have too.

>Dawn of War boardgame shadowdropped out of nowhere
>Pitiful quantities per store
>No ordering online or in-store pickup etc.
>Stories en masse from employees after the day-one rush that it's "on the pallettes in the back" as stock fluctuates all over the place on websites despite very few people reporting being able to get a copy now
>Barnes and Noble never had it up to begin with
On one hand this is a hilarious shitshow but on the other you have to wonder what's actually going on. Has the website just shit its pants or are scalpers just that capable of gaming the system?

>>96184915
>born human, from human parents
>so have souls
Idiot.

>>96183702 (OP)
>Which 40K army do you love, but will never paint?

Space Marines (Relictors and Nova Marines)

>>96184854
No, "blood sorcery" being used to combat the army of daemons that all have "blood" in their names, who are minions of the blood god, and love spilling blood breaks the logic of the setting.

>>96184535
Who makes those flight stands?

>>96184982
Halves and quartering seem hard. I forget which the Nova Marines are. Relicters are just od green though right?

>>96184809
Morty (the reddit primarch) does

>>96184949
Dark eldar more like fart smelldar lmaooo

>>96184990
>headcanon argument
Yawn. I guess sorcery doesn't exist.

>>96184818
>when each is a capable general in themselves
Then why do they fight in hordes and get murked by orks?

>>96184537
That's exactly the palette. Is there a fundamental difference in the paper they use vs a lot of others?

>>96185005
It doesn't. Its just in people's heads.

>>96183999
Don't want to sound like a shill but those redgrass wet palettes that use membranes instead of paper are super fucking nice

>>96184830
>Next you'll tell me doing a line of coke off a particularly pious battle sister's ass will keep Slaaneshi daemons away
Worked for my Rogue Trader, or so he insists

Making bases on their own first feels so much easier but attaching the model afterwards with plastic cement is a nightmare how do you do it

>>96184822
reddit

>>96185032
You don't. You use super glue. If you want a solid connection you really want to glue them to the base before basing

>>96184976
The better question is why deal with actual fluoride golems in a retail store when you have a dozen rizzed-up tacticus bodies to use as proxies for the two exclusive dudes now, you a hobbylet or something?

Jack off before posting. As in, before every post. Drink plenty of water

>>96184182
>>96184329
Mission accomplished.

>>96184623
Aristocrat marines with nobiliary titles (vanguard Baron, 7th company Duke, etc) who are the very example of what the Heresy fought to crush (pious marines who lord over mortals), but they are loyalists, so at least their condescending attitude is used for good
>We bleed so frail mortals don't have to
They have a lot of serfs, and like one trains hounds and keeps their car clean, so do they dote on their humans.
They also trade them with each other and (have their chamberlains) arrange intermarriages and acquire specimens, to improve their "pedigree".

>>96185010
Good generals do not always make the best warriors, especially when you throw them on the front lines and expect them to fight ridiculous odds.
There is a reason their tribunes are even more capable than their line soldiers.

>>96184750
they want to give the second player a chance so some narf with a jank infiltrate or scouting army don't burn the whole board turn 1

>>96184976
I think the main deal is that so many 40k players have been mindbroken about price and optimizing dollar per points or dollar per model that they they see a boardgame with the same kit as Honoured of the Chapter set for almost 1/3 the price and they can't -not- buy it.

I mean I don't even collect marines and I'm tempted to get it because it's such a bargain and the models are nice.

>>96185148
>I'm tempted to get it because it's such a bargain
this is such a consoomer mentality lol

>>96185161
>and the models are nice
But that is the point I'm making, yes.

>>96185142
So they CHOOSE to die en masse like retards instead of directing Imperium forces? That doesn't sound like the pinnacle of human wisdom and intelligence to me.

>>96185180
>So they CHOOSE to die en masse like retards instead of directing Imperium forces
They follow orders, and I expect you to forgive them for not being petit gods that can lay low 1000 foes at a time singlehandedly.
That said, I challenge you to name any battle in lore where Custodes were deployed in force and the battle still lost. They are still mere mortals, and we have plenty of examples even in real history that quality will not defeat quantity after a certain amount.
>perhaps the dumbest convo I've had in these threads in actual years

>when someone's trolling on a faction you don't like

>>96185197
>That said, I challenge you to name any battle in lore where Custodes were deployed in force and the battle still lost
The Siege of Terra

>>96185197
>I expect you to forgive them for not being petit gods that can lay low 1000 foes at a time singlehandedly.
I won't after how hard they've been wanked off in canon and by fans like yourself.
>I challenge you to name any battle in lore where Custodes were deployed in force and the battle still lost
Siege of Terra
That time BTs massacred them
Every time I table them

>>96185197
>They are still mere mortals
mortals dont live 10,000 years.

So uh... Knights are kind of total bullshit right now, huh?

>>96185197
Custodes couldn't do the ONE thing they were created to do as a legion of personal bodyguards, keep their VIP alive. Actually pathetic

>>96185206
Oh yeah, they also got wiped out in that Indomitus Crusade that got #KHORNEHOLED

>>96185208
Yes and so are deathguard

>>96185201
>>96185206
>The Siege of Terra
>ends with Horus dead, siege broken, traitors routed
Can you lot stop being dumb for a few minutes.
>>96185207
Mortal means they can indeed die to most mundane situations.
>>96185208
>Knights are kind of total bullshit right now, huh?
Always were.

>>96185012
I don't know, but I do own one and that's exactly what I noticed is happening with mine as well.

>>96185208
Knights are always going to be rough to balance with the rest of the game, especially from a tournament setting perspective where you need to have an answer for infantry. I feel like a lot of the gripes people have with balance could be eased with a standard of play that sets 1500pts of core army with 500pts of sideboard or something like that.

>Siege of Terra
Ends with Big E crippled forever.
His webway program rendered useless.
His leadership removed.
His crusade prematurely ended.
His realm forever decaying.
Humanities fate sealed. All that is left are the death rattles before it succumbs to grim dark future.

>>96185221
>Mortal means they can indeed die to most mundane situations.
Not very pinacle of humanity of them.

>>96185236
Then Guilliman has come into the picture and I guess he is a temporary staunch to the Imperium's bleeding wounds but not a permanent fix.

Which temple do the Black Templars take their name from?

>>96185242
No one is perfect, anon, not even the Emperor.

>>96185236
Indeed, such a shame that so much is lost. Let's see how Horus' new ascendant empire is doing, surely crippling the Imperium has paved the way for their dominance over the galaxy.

>>96185249
Yeah. Also seems to a rip of eastern and western roman empires. Rowboat in the west and Lion el in the east or whatever.

>>96185256
Heresy

>>96183702 (OP)
>Which 40K army do you love, but will never paint?
The one anon dislikes just because I can make anon sad for free.

>>96185258
Lol. It thinks I play chaos. Point at him. Point at him and laugh.

>Going through pretty big move
>Finally get around to getting minis re-sorted out in a new room
>Remember I have three squads of Guardians, two Defenders one Storm
>Have sudden kneejerk urge to buy another Storm Guardian squad
I barely even use these guys as is, damnit

Does a similar picture like pic related, just for Sisters?

>>96185284
Haven't seen one. Comparatively there are very few official color schemes for SoB.

>>96185265
Really?
I never thought of that.
Is Lionel Johnson doing some empire building or is he just being a roaming warboss in the Nihilus?

>>96185270
Sorry, anon, the best Man is not perfect. That is what makes Him a Man.

>>96185256

>>96185317
>got merked by a happa kid
Not a great showing.

>>96185284
No, there are only the 6 official schemes for sisters based on the 6 major orders and their saints.

The militant Orders Minoris are for your homebrew factions.

>>96185328
>implying someone El Hermano level isn't perfect

>>96185265
I never thought of it that way, and it sounds really cool, but I don’t really think The Lion would be for governing because of his schizo nature. Would be cool if that was done for Dorn or Vulkan when they inevitably come back though.

>>96185344
What exactly happened to Vulkan?
He died during the Beast invasion, and was never seen again?

Sorry for blogposting.
Did my first game since early 8th ed, my 1000pts Black Templars Wrathful Procession detachment vs Dark Angels.
Here is what I learned:
>Wrathful Procession +2 movement chant is a blessing
Having marines move on 8 is insane. I havent seen the new rules, but I hope we have something similar for my footslogging melee Templars.

>Sword Brethren SLAPS
I hope the new changes wont nerf them as much, but their W3 and power weapons attacks are just tasty. I didn't expect them to tank that many shots and once they hit mellee they just ruined whatever they reached. They can't take a punch from whatever survived (6 men bladeguards) though.

>Brute Fervour stratagem is the bane of Dark Angels
Their -1 to wound thing doesnt do much when for 1cp you ignore modifers to hit and wound in melee. Too bad I only remembered this stratagem in round 3.

>Shooting is actually good.
I barely have any shooting, and I had my whole crusader squad wiped out turn 1 by eliminators, hellblasters and heavy intercessors focus firing them. I underestimated the shooting phase.

>Chaplain on bike is a force multiplier
He not only deals a lot of damage but the ourtiders are a menace with him around.

>Terminators and terminator captain are pillow fisted garbage.
Goddamn do they deal no damage at all. Like none. What happened to power fists? Once upon a time it makes anything it touches explode. Now it cant even dent a heavy intercessor. I swear they might as well be pillow fists. The captain's relic blade is no better.

>The Emperor's Champion is the GOAT
This guy almost solod a redemptor dreadnought, killed a bladesguard vet with just a look and almost took out a jump pack captain.

>I hate plasma.
Really I do.

Also here's a question. How does Precision work? Lets say my chaplain grants his outrider squad Precion against a Judiciar in Bladesguard squad. Once the chaplain killed the judiciar by himself, cant the outriders hit the bladesguard? Even if none of them rolled yet?

Is there still no scans of the Chaos Knights Codex?

I'm urged to do a tournament tommorrow, but my rules are from the start of 10th still on grainy printer paper

>>96185356
He's just biding his time to give big E the biggest hug known to man.

>>96185369
>I barely have any shooting, and I had my whole crusader squad wiped out turn 1 by eliminators, hellblasters and heavy intercessors focus firing them. I underestimated the shooting phase.
Story of the life of a world eater player

>>96185376
Black Templars are just loyalist World Eaters. They even share the chained weapons tradition.

Knowing now that 40k is a behemoth titan of a game and never died do you wish you had taken the diversions into other shorter lived games with their own models and experiences knowing 40k was always going to be there as the mainstay?

>>96185371
this woman must love cicadas. those are molted shells though right? not live cicadas?

>>96185384
>do you wish you had useless models
not really

>>96185405
now this perspective is always weird to me. They would not have been useless at the time because you'd be playing and hobbying with them, and even now they are like a memory given physicality or atleast a collectible

>>96184836
This sounds retarded. If 40k isn't grimdark, it's not 40k

>>96185384
No, I do play other games. If anything I wish I had been into 40k more actively and longer because the community around it introduced me to so many other games.

>>96184535
>>96184555
yeah, at that point just fuck even having bases desu

>>96184836
It's not about "dae the bad guys are getting gains!!" it's about the Imperium also being backwards, degenerate and terrible as it flails about in its death throes. Humanity is doomed. That's grimdark.

None of this retarded shit with primarchs coming back fits that, it's just space marine wank on steroids. Kill the writers.

>>96185410
My shelf is cluttered enough with "memories" to be entirely honest I don't even more worthless plastic garbage no matter how sentimental they may be.

>>96184830
Khorne can get off on something that simultaneously wards against his influence. The blood rituals warded them against the demons due to their emperorshitfaithbullshit, but Khorne is still empowered. It doesn't matter where the blood flows from, only that it flows. Same thing applies to killing khorne daemons by violently smashing them with hammers and slicing them apart with chainswords, it still empowers Khorne. Just because it empowers a chaos god doesn't mean it won't work against them

>>96185384
I have armies for warmachine, star wars legion, star wars xwing, infinity, dark age, and a few other small games. Some of them are still going (legion, xwing) and others I haven't even heard about in years (dark age, a few of the smaller indies). They are/were all fun in their own ways and you'll always have the models even if the rules aren't supported anymore.

>>96185427
Hey fair enough! It's important not to over consume wargaming models. I didnt do it for years but now my backlog has grown, but im happy my display armies are small in model count

>>96184623
I am building weeby neckbeard Nurgleboys whose kokoros go doki doki at the sight of angry bolter-nuns. I call them the Festering Basement and I have already primed 10 blightlord terminators, 21 plague marines, rhino, three shitlords, three deathdhrouds and two bloatdrones, two pbcs and 2 blighhaulers, plus miasmic malignifier, a pile of nurglings and GUO. They are now splashed by contrast paints, and by the time 11th edition comes out, they should be ready for their first proper waifu hunt.

>>96185443
woah, x-wing is still going?!
I like your perspective on it anon, sometimes I can forget rules dont have to be like warhammers rules, and having a few minis from lots of games is nice for variety

>>96185425
Wrong. 40k has and always will be about hopemaxxing and humanity kicking its enemies in the balls. "Space marine wank" is not only good, it's the entire point of the setting. I can't wait to drink your tears when the Emperor returns and the Eldar kill Slaanesh. They should bring back Sanguinius, too. My hawkboy needs to kill Failbaddon as revenge

>>96185469
(You)

>>96185469

pre-ordered my new stuff

>>96184158
It's funny how that old model look like something that could actually be wore than the new one.

>>96185498
I dont understand marine paypigs

>>96185469

>>96185502
Yes it must be very shocking and confusing for nomodels larping as xenosfags to see people actually purchasing and engaging with this hobby

>>96185498
>>96185502
>minute apart
>>96185509
>just over a minute apart
lol

>>96185502
Well the intercessors will be used to kitbash my upscaled strike marines (pic related) and the deathwing knights for upscaled terminators. I'm buying the codex for the art, fluff, and crusade stuff.

>>96185524
/v/ermin mind can't comprehend people actually discussing the thread subject and assumes it must be samefaggotry

>>96185509
Purchasing something is alright but why on earth would you accumulate a pile like that so quick? Like, what is that dude gonna do with incest sectors and the deathwing knights while building up a grey knights army?

>>96185529
It is weird they point out the "minute apart" when they just as easily say you are phone posting if the replies aren't.

>>96185526
>an actual hobbyist in the thread
I retract my statement, you were one of the good ones.

>>96185547
fantastic, now can you show your hobbying perchance?

>>96185547
thanks lmao. also ordered some recast FW dreadnought parts (psycannon and dreadnought force weapon) and I'm gonna be changing Crowe a bunch (giving him a shield, swapping his sword to other arm etc)

>>96185547
There's a lot of us here. I personally only post my models and >>96185369, without talking about other shit, but I'm sure a lot of posters here are hobyists.

>>96185547
>an actual hobbyist in the thread
is this general really at a point where this is considered weird or something

>>96185618
Considering there are only like 5 of us left who actually own models at this point yeah

>>96185625
there are like 5 different blue ork anons lmao

>>96185641
None of them have posted in months

>>96185505
of course the shitty weak bait was posted by a retard who cant even properly use an AI upscaler or crop an image

>>96185642
Devoting 24/7 of your time to this thread is insanely unhealthy I would hope everyone here occasional gets the mood to do anything else for a few weeks.

>>96185642
I posted an unfinished gorkanaut 2 weeks ago. Just have been busy.

>>96185642
One of them posted the other day

>>96185469
>hopemaxxing
>Mentions Eldar plots
I see you have never actually read any Eldar lore ever
More like copemaxxing

>>96185641
Main blorkfag is gone
Black legionfag is gone
Tsons/admechfag is gone
Orange and tealfag is gone
Blue lamenterfag is gone
Purple necronfag is gone
Steel legionfag is gone
Red and grey marinefag is gone
Fremen gscfag is gone
Volumetric black templarfag is gone
Plus many more who I can't remember off the top of my head

>>96185642
I only have two painted blue orks so I don't know if I count as a blue ork anon but I posted my ghaz a little while ago.

>>96185670
early eldar lore was a lot of hope maxing, like in the realm of war (or whatever, the eldar game from the 90s) the farseer is like
'we are gonna fuck these humans up, reclaim this maiden world and fuck yeah'

>>96185672
Black legion anon isn't gone.

>>96185694
Hasn't posted in two months

>>96185700
He is painting a squad of terminators for the july collage though

>>96185700
>remembah da fallen
>meaning they just aren't doing warhammer at this moment
Jesus get over yourself.

>>96185711
Yeah you're right them leaving the thread to do other things means they're still here
Braindead shitskin

>>96185672
Tsons/admechfag posted in the general yesterday, stop being all doom and gloom.

>>96185719
They are not "gone" you disingenuous kike.

>>96185692
Uh huh. How about an actual canon lore source?

>>96185721
No he didn't
>>96185723
>Braindead fallacy gets immediately picked apart
>Melts down
Typical shitskin, don't overwork your smooth brain now poojeet

>>96185672
Tson admech guy posted like 10 hours ago

>>96185728
Thank you for explaining your mental process I was confused why you were sperging out.
So you were just writing a list of your crushes not in the thread at this very moment. That must be so hard for you.

>>96185728
Yes he did. Go for a walk, anon. You'll feel better.

>>96185727
eldar prophecy says that when the last eldar falls, the last remnants of chaos falls with it, and that will be FUEGAN, who will tame the beast of the end with his flaming whip. Beast and Master will die together in flames and the warp will no longer exist, leaving the galaxy to peace.

>>96185728
>No he didn't
>>96182825

>>96185738
>N-no u
God you shitskins are so pathetic
Keep clinging to a dead general full of nomodels spamming the same bait for 700 posts and circlejerking over a redditor 24/7

>>96185757
get ready for this one anon because
(you)
are also still posting here.

>>96185763
>Yet you participate in society
>I am very smart

>>96185742
>Ah yes. Rhana Dandra. A hope that the world will be better off without you.

>>96185776
Shit thrown deserve a shit response, you could put a little more effort into tour bantz beyond
>u r brown

>>96185728
I'm here anon, chill out. I just wasn't painting too much lately

>>96185672
Blubangelanon posted a week ago

>>96185757
who is this redditor i am jerking off to?

Can't we all just calm down and share some models or something? Why do we have to fight all the time?

>>96185776
Anon… you don’t gotta participate in it. your freedom is as close as just buying a box of runtherd and gretchin and painting them.

>>96185370
Any help regarding this? I've mostly been trying to get back into things because of depression spiral and job hunting over doing any games and there is no way to get a codex (Plus the app is outdateD)

>>96185795
>sissyhammer

>hobby that famously demands a lot of your time
>"Where are all the model posters? Why aren't they posting all the time?"

>>96185795
In the cringe shartness of the far future, there is only faggotry

>>96185672
About 1/3rd of these guys still post here. Most of these guys post on IG.

>>96185757
hey the 40k general is great dude

>>96185814
they really expect this to be like xivg where we all attach a model to every one of our posts lmao

>>96185795
Yeah I'm fairly tired of the shitflinging too. Anyways here's a Skitarii Ranger Alpha I did fairly recently, got some other pics of his squad too (who are almost done)

>>96185793
probably me? I'm a redditfag

>>96185795
I haven't painted a single 40k model all 2025. I play Kings of War now and I talk shit about AOS and Old World

>>96185814
There is some merit to this - more than half of my local area plays unpainted.

Think about it - actually getting an army completed is an absolute feat for zoomers and for the dads who have kids/career. It takes most dudes about a year or two to get their first army fully painted and based. I always recommend friends try and at least go for an armies on parade a year out. They can do a unit a month and then can learn how to make a display board.

>>96185795
Usually if you share models too close to a thread meltdown you get people assuming you were participating in it

>>96185838
This is pretty good but it does not make me want to jerk off can't say I see the sexual appeal tbdesu.

early WIP on my Hector Rex.. the filigree is going to drive me crazy.

>>96185838
neat terrain man, like it

>>96185819
awesome models

>>96185834
>black and white admech
cool but I can't help but think he'd look better on a (contrasting warmth vs how cold he looks) martian base

We frigpostan, we frenspostan

>>96185873
Do you use washes? If not they're like a cheat code for stuff like that, even better when you follow it up with another pass of the metal color to pick out high spots.

>>96185793
NTA but pretty obviously the d***lfag

I HATE PAINTING FACES
I CAN'T PAINT DECENT FACES
EVERYTHING I PAINT HAS SKIN SHOWING
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
skill issue I know

>>96185944
I used to hate painting bare heads because they're hard so I tried to drybrush my way out of them with poor results, and then I gave it an earnest try and it turned out better than expected. Since then I want to paint more.

>>96185284
no

>>96185873
thanks, I painted a hector rex as well. Mine is a recast so a bunch of resin pieces fell off

>>96185814
Not to mention the schizos that will shitpost about you if you post your stuff "too much"

>>96185977
The whole
>post models!
>not those ones I've seen those!
Has always confused me. It's like you don't need to live out your hobby aspirations through me. If you want to see new models just paint new models

>>96185971
The GSC neophytes have so many things on their tiny faces that drybrushing gets into face masks, visors and whatnot. I did that for a few guys that don't have it but that's about it.

>>96185971
What's he thinking about?

>>96185820
Nobody knows what the fuck xivg is supposed to be but (you)

>>96186010
>>post models!
>>not those ones I've seen those
This never happens

>>96185944
Basecoat bright and then glaze back with thinned washes. It's easier to go slowly and carefully in reverse than it is to go slowly and carefully using bright ones over a dark base

>>96186018
"I really should get a tablecloth for the kitchen table, a good one will tie the whole room together."

>>96186026
Nta but I can assure you that it does happen occasionally

I'm thinking of buying one of those tabletop stronghold cases. How should I decorate it? I'm thinking gluing some posters, graffiti, maybe some fitting stickers

>>96186018
He lives alone and a can just fell off his kitchen counter

Can Custodes function and take on tanks without tanks or other vehicles and FW stuff? Want to get back into the game with a small elite army with no tanks, pain in the ass to transport for me.

>>96186036
You should mount it to pic related and drive it 50mph through the doors at your lgs

>>96186049
>sixteen hundred dollarydoos
I could just about buy an actual beater car for that

You will love ze quee-xenos

>>96185977
Yeah navigating around shitposters can get tiring. I can maybe understand someone getting triggered if you post the exact same picture every thread or something but I don't see it doing any harm otherwise

>>96186048
I think the custodes anon here said they were pretty rough without the tanks

>>96186066
Where the fuck do you live that you can buy even a used car for less than 5k

>>96186036
I kinda wanna get one too but im worried it'll break down on me quick.

>>96186066
That would be funny too but is a bad thing to encourage

>>96186068
hell yeah

if they stopped selling the old dreadnaught does that mean it's getting legend'd or are they gonna make a new one
the whole using veterans as replaceable batteries makes me not want to use redemptors

>>96186073
CL and FBM has beaters and strikers for under 2k often enough, like this fine example of a Saturn. They sure as hell won't be factory fresh but they'll run and drive fine enough. There's even rice-free civics and integras on here right now under 3k.

>>96186100
i'm a retard there's a ballistus dreadnought

>>96186109
>190k miles on a saturn
>It'll drive fine enough
"No"

>>96186068
I would frick the weird bug lady

>>96186109
>188k miles
Wew, my 9 year old car just hit 40k

>>96186118
WHAT
LIKE WARHAMMER?

>>96186100
The mortality of the redemptor is probably going to be retconned just as the one of the primaris process for manlets

or they're going to make a venerable redemptor kit that's special because it doesn't burn the pilots so they're used for truly veteran marines that are valuable enough to keep being dreadnoughts for way longer

>>96186109
>There's even rice-free civics and integras on here right now under 3k.
Any civic or teg devoid of rice for under 3k is also devoid of a floorboard like a Flintstones car

>>96186072
Fuck.

>>96186116
>>96186128
I did say they were beaters, I'm not trying to impress you guys with my hot deals. Point is there's a crossover between the price of a high end RC car and running, registered actual car.

Can I get some advice on my World Eater list? How bad is it?

I have nothing against big centerpiece models but it's kinda boring that every big 4 army is lead by their daemon primarch

>>96186232
EC dont

>>96186232
>tfw no 0 epic heroes in your entire roster
feels good

>>96186232
I don't like the magnus model at all so I'm going with lord of change instead

named characters were a mistake

>>96186258
Been in since literally the beginning, larping /v/ermin

>>96186243
>no 0

>>96186258
I dont think so at all. I like them a lot actually I just want their to be an argument for running a random shitter chaos lord instead of your big kahuna every game.

>>96186264
He is a GSCgooner his brain is fried please understand

>>96186189
export as short next time ahh it unironically hurts my eyes trying to read this

>>96186264
>>96186293
i fucked up but you get it. Not even the patriarch has Epic Hero keyword so you can give him enhancements, but limited to 1 patriarch only.

>>96186275
i don't mind playing them occasionally as a special treat
facing them on a regular basis makes them lose that special mystique they have

>>96186243
Are you saying you wouldn't gush over and immediately run out and buy a GSC epic hero if they ever released one? Like you wouldn't take some named GSC born-again preacher who comes early to gather the worthy and lead them away to heaven's gate when the meteor (rogue hive ship) comes close?

>>96186258
in match play yes, in narrative no.

made my own dark apostle, did I cook?

>>96186338
No. Give me Termite Assault Drill for Genestealer Cults instead.

>>96186348
Looks cute. The purity seals look a bit strange though.

>>96186338
Depends, how big are her tits?

>>96186369
Yea I just figured he would use them for scripture or something

>>96186398
She's got Three

>>96186232
yes but that's GW fault and the rule sets. Its the same with war gear. You always run best in slot if not your stupid.

Solution for named characters is to restrict them to narrative games and ban from match play.
War gear has to be changed so far that it has negatives and positives. Look at it as a tool.
Chainsawsword very good at removing mobs, bad at armored and very heavy armored troops. give it like a blast rule and additional AP in that circumstance but remove the bonuses when conditions are not meet.

Energy fist very good at removing heavy armored targets so it gets bonuses there and maluses in mons.

instead of what is the best for ever and there fore only viable forever look at it what is viable against the target i am about to face.

you dont eat soup with a fork, you can and its messy but the spoon is much better.

Do you think GW could make a big narrative event that involved some of the really tiny factions like Leagues of Votann, Genestealer Cults, Drukhari, and Chaos/Imperial Knights? It seems like all of them have no stake in any galactic scale conflicts and just kind of exist on the sidelines. Like despite being Imperium I don't think I can think of a single time an Imperial Knight house has ever had the narrative focus.

>>96186348
He cute, I'd go back and clean up the white area on the base where the paint rubbed off imo

>>96186418
>chainsawsword
>energy fist
Wut

>>96186369
What would be the chaotic equivalent of a purity seal?

>>96186454
>tau are too small to be important to the larger narrative
>tau are too big to be a part of the tiny faction narrative
its so fucking over cowbros

>>96186469
Scrolls maybe?

>>96186469

I like to imagine power fists with giant middle fingers extended.

>>96186472
Tau get narrative focus and entire warzones and crusades focused on the all the time. They actually show up on a galaxy map too with actual borders to dispute, unlike the rest of those.

>>96186454
they are support characters, knights and GC at least. Drukari and Votan have Main character energy.

For Drukari I can see a narrative forever campaign. They are slavers and pirates. So a pirate campaign about raids around the whole galaxy throu the web way. Raiding settlements and citys to get slaves everywhere.

knights codex was a mistake/ make them a Independent army. Return them back to support status in big army games 2500 points upwards.

>>96186467
>>96186467
they are just examples.

>>96186302
This is short.

>>96186454
Votan are a corpo now so they leash out and want minerals and gases, sell maybe products to any one willing to buy it. So a campaign focused on that, get shiny stuffs, defending trade convoys and outposts from pirates and raiders.

>>96186518
Not my point. Are you translating this with google translate or something

>>96186189
>>96186522
I don't know why the "short" export still includes weapon options that can't be changed or wargear options everyone will always take for free when everyone knows what they are already using.

>>96186535
then make your point more clear next time.

>>96186539
Am I talking to a bot or something lmao

>>96186531
>>96186512
Drukhari and Votann proxy war over resources but they are both backed by Aledari/Tau who are trying to negotiate over a clutch of maiden worlds and using them as deniable assets.

>>96186536
Yeah, it's still one of the better apps for list building.

>>96184759
Same here. Pretty sure it's waxed but it keeps moisture just fine.

Why are they so hated?

>>96186610
Dunno, I like them and will definitely get them once they're released as a standalone kit

>>96186610
>Why are they so hated?
NEW BAD
welcome to groghammer40k

>>96186412
Perfect.

>>96186549
Tau not. Tau are cuckt by there technology.
They cant travel very far out from there own territory. They should have there own campaign focused on defense and expansion.

Defending from drukari, imperium maybe the occasional chaos lord scavenging. tyrranids and orks but they are not in the position to start mayor campaigns of conquests. They pretty much on there own.

Eldar Having a defensive campaign around maiden worlds and craft worlds maybe even recovery raids for soul stones I can see. A mayor anti chaos campaign for narrative purposes could be center´d around isha and trying to rescue her with the yenari and the new death god.

>>96186610
I think they look neat

>>96186610
They feel like a bad FW unit made worse by an even lamer execution, sculptwise.

>Yes, out of all the legions to give repurposed robots to in 40k, it's the Thousand Sons, known for their use of robots during the Crusade and the Heresy

Completely inexplicable.

>>96186610
Didn't know these exist. I hate them.
>Why?
Because they look like ass.

>>96186610
they dont fit the thousand sons. Not every one needs a equivalent to some else unit.

would have been better to have three sorceress throw fiere balls then those pseudo obliterator's.
even from the esthetic they look shit and dont fit.

Basically done my swooping hawks for the collage now.
Just need to spray varnish tomorrow and glue on tufts

>>96186454
Dark eldar are basically saturday morning cartoon villains, they can cameo anywhere to steal a sun or something

>>96186454
>Do you think GW could make a big narrative event that involved some of the really tiny factions like Leagues of Votann, Genestealer Cults, Drukhari, and Chaos/Imperial Knights
Marines aren't within that group, so no.

>>96186638
Holy ESL batman

GKs must have the biggest gap between how cool they look in art and how they look on the tabletop.

>>96186454
A Feudal world with several Knight houses has fallen to civil war, with many of them falling to chaos. This isn't helped by the Genestealer infestation in the system. The battle is fierce, but after a final stand on a wreck of a planet, the Knights, both Chaos and Imperial alike, are shocked to see that the Votaan mined their home into nothing and the Drukhari stole the sun. The Nids, seeing no sun and most planets mined, change course, leaving the GSC alone.

>>96186642
They did have robots in the heresy tho

>>96186680
They just look like space marines.

>>96186683
I'd play it.

>>96186649
What’s this unit an equivalent to.

>>96186610
looks like shit

>>96186692
obliterators

Will World Eaters, Thousand Sons and Emperor's Children ever get proper second waves? I didn't mention Death Guard as they seem pretty complete.

>>96186723
By 13th edition in 2034

>>96186723
Sure. I predict 10 years for the EC second wave. I am honestly amazed they got a first wave.

Getting back in to 40k. I want marines for some fucking reason. Whats the cheapest starter sprues? Is it the Leviathan stuff?

>>96186610
This is a really autistic reason and i’m not sure if this is the reason people say it looks bad, but I don’t like it when giant bipedal mechs don’t have hands. it makes me imagine that they could easily be knocked down and be unable to pick themselves back up. this is also exacerbated by the fact that these mechs are really lanky which means they can be pushed around a lot more easily than something like a deff dread.

>>96186738
I hope WE will get a second wave soon-ish. They have big potential for a second wave. No idea what EC or TS could get though.

>>96186610
I think they look sick and want some.

How would you pilot 2k points of Dreadnoughts?

>>96186775
Very aggressive, move up, don't stop.

>>96186775
You go back to 6th ed, slap them in drop pods. Drop right on top of the enemy. You do not fuck up your scatter roll. You unload all over their face.

Noob question, how do the tiny Votann transports work? If you put half your Hearthkyn in a truck, and it drives off and drops them off somewhere else, do you functionally just have two 5 man Hearthkyn squads?

>>96186715
I dont think thats really the same unit tbqh anon

>>96186775
With several near death space marines

>>96186775
Run dreadnoughts up field, smash. Explode in blaze of glory

>>96186746
That or the combat patrols I believe.

>>96186801
They can split units of 10 into 2 units of 5 at the start of the game only.
Dark eldar venoms and the immolator for sisters do the same thing

>>96186775
Die instantly because you have no invulns and people are teching for anti-Knights

>>96186779
>>96186812
As in "murder" is the strategy? Would I care about deepstrikes into my home field? 3 ballistus sound vulnerable to getting into melee.

Going to pick the Levs Termies, Sternguard, Libby, and Term Capt. Is any of that any good?

>>96186818
Huh. What an odd thing

>>96186889
What part of "krumpem good an ard" did you not understand?

>>96186923
Yea, it's almost like at one point the game was designed to let you field troops in minimal sized squads and then a shortsighted mandate was handed down from a corporate entity which has forced the rules team to bend themselves into pretzel shapes every other book.

I feel self conscious at the lgs (not a warhammer store) every time I go to play warhammer because I see a lot of people that seem to have given up or stopped caring in a bad way.
Anybody else have this feeling?

See the purple haired neckbeard posted several times here and with his own thread. Those are the kind of people that make me feel self conscious about my appearance and make me want to properly care for myself.

>>96184623
Lost in space tau space pirates from the 4th sphere.

>>96186923
It is because GW had some Hardline stance that all units must come in whatever size the box they sell them in is. But this created a bunch of weird problems for a bunch of factions like transports that literally can't transport anything because their capacity is too small or boxes that allow you to build a hero out of one of the models and leave an odd number of models left in the box for the unit. Which is why you get some weird rules for splitting infantry models into two squads or some elites that allow you to take a bunch of different numbers of them in weird combinations of 2, 3, 5 or 6 but not 4.

>>96186963
Why are you not taking care of yourself?
If you’re a DG player, then why are you feeling self conscious about your lack of hygiene instead of embracing it?

>>96184623
Kabal based around evil fae genie deals that show up to the desperate and offer them ruination cloakee as salvation. Wych cult based around the Wild Hunt that scours entire systems hunting and abducting the lost and misbegotten. Haemonculus coven based around alien beauty standards and collecting perfect specimens and oddities.

>>96186923
Dark Eldar Venoms are so fucking funny because the Court of the Archon adds 4 to the unit size and Kabalites can't go under 10, so instead of just taking a MSU, you have to

>Get Venom
>Take Kabalite Squad, split it using Venom rule
>Get Archon and Court, attach to Kabalite squad with special weapons
>Put small guns Kabalites in the venom
>Only then can you put the Court + Kabalite half + Archon into a raider

All to get 1 unit into a vehicle

>>96186994
I am I just feel like I should take care of myself more.

>>96187046
This is why the Court is actually like a 340 point unit or something because you have to have 4 other units to make it even function in Skysplinter.
It feels much more elegant in Reaper's Wager where you can just deepstrike the whole 15 man blob and use a strategem for the sustained hits, but it's not as good there without the Lance, Sustained 2, and Ignores Cover.

>>96187091
Does SSA Court + Kabalite squad just randomly like, roll a 6 on a dark lance shot and accidentally oneshot a vehicle?

>>96186889
Too much thinking, run forward, shoot big guns, smash, when you can't shoot or smash anymore, explode, then LOL

>>96186928
>>96187145
>go, venerable brothers, smash to the extreme
I do want to try this.

SEX WITH BUGS

It's joever...

>>96187096
It does if you use the Sustained 2 strat on them for shooting. You just accidentally turn them into another Dark Lance Scourge squad with three auto hits and an auto wound. More if you are close enough for the blaster as well. The buff stacking is just insane on that unit.with a pain token and a transport and a strat.

>>96187164