Thread 96195892

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>>96161171

>What is /awg/?
A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.
The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.
This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.

>Examples of games that qualify.
A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,
Deadzone, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, Judge Dredd, HeroClix,
Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,
Oathmark, OnePageRules, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, Stargrave, Sludge, Urban War, Void, Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenotactics...
...and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.

>Examples of companies providing rules and/or miniatures for alternative wargames.
Archon Studio, Atomic Mass Games, Black Site Studios, CMON, Mantic, North Star Military Figures,
OnePageRules, Osprey, Para Bellum, Seb Games, Spellcrow, TTCombat, Victrix, Wargames Atlantic, Warlord Games...
...and many other publishers.

>Places to get minis; Updates to the minis list are welcome.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D2DbNJ2mYAUxh5P9Pq9NZqS5tXHGn0i2JhZchEwbA2I/edit
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/373197.page

>Novice Troves, meant to serve as a sampler of available systems. Check out the Share Thread for up-to-date troves.
https://pastebin.com/MjtsC8AX
https://mega.nz/#F!zSYW0I4a!vXh8-UPi_tWXpJES_-p4zg

>TQ
None, it's the hobby-check time. Post whatever you are working on lately but not necessary painted minis. Terrain-making, rules-brewing or simply assembling your minis is a part of the hobby as well.

How much terrain is too much?

>>96196033
Depends on the game.

I want to play with some good old barbarian tribes smashing skulls but I want the tribe customisation and expansion part to be present in the game as well. I noticed that most games like Brutality or Tribal skip this aspect altogether. Is there any system that lets me generate deities, rituals and customs to base the warriors' stats and abilities on them? I want the TRIBE to be an impactful factor in the TRIBAL warfare.

>>96195892 (OP)
>>96195892 (OP)
>Post whatever you are working on lately but not necessary painted minis.

Stargrave squads. The first few I'm building "straight" but there will be room for cross pollination.

Think I would have been happier with a spray of bone then a white drybrush rather than drybrushing both. And the Vallejo Xpress is quite viscous, has little capillary action. Did notice some bubbling but they are not as hydrophobic as say, Contrast. Still, it's only rock and roll. Maybe a drop of IPA on my brush might cut them a little.

>>96196149
WFB3 with the Realms of Chaos shit in play

>>96195892 (OP)
I'm finishing some minis that were half painted in a drawer, and also some that need some Tufts and snow base to become 100% done.
At the same time, I'm printing zone mortalis proxy terrain so I can build a customizable and hopefully claustrophobic city/underhive board for my Five Parsecs campaigns.
And once I have printed enough pieces, this will be my painting/modelling focus for a few weeks.

>>96195892 (OP)

>TQ

Not /awg/ miniatures, but I've been painting these recently.

>>96196033
I've never seen a fable work "too much" terrain, especially if it's painted well

Painted up these perfidious Ukrainian soldiers to battle against my brave Russian patriots

>>96197581
I love when people paint camo. Really I'd like to see more people attempt camo, even in 40k and shit it would be cool to see camo eldar or Tau instead of niggas walking around wearing yellow or purple or sum shit

>>96196523
>not /awg/ miniatures
Are those prints or 3rd party sculpts? They look cool!

>>96196183
Base is too large

>>96197581
Great base size. 20mm chads rise up

>>96197650

3d printed mechanicum models, from two different designers whose names I can't remember.

>>96197759
They came out super well

>>96197759
>40kuck
Lmao

>>96197821
>40kuck
40k haters are the ones sitting in the chair while 40k fucks their setting in every feasible way

>>96197759
not 40k models

>>96196149
What I wind up nutting to more than anything is fantasy big strong woman, who gets all wet for getting treated like a maid and then I breed her, bikini armor on muscle woman is my dream.

>>96197835
>40k haters are the ones sitting in the chair while 40k fucks their setting in every feasible way

>>96197821
Wtf, i print and use all sorts of 40k proxy models all the time. You realize you can play all sorts of games with them?
Why is 40k living rent-free in your head Anon?

>>96197860
This thread is actually called /awg/ (a)wg = wargames. Not /am/ for alternative miniatures. Its Alternetive Wargames.
So even if those Tech Priest robots above were genuine GW models, but he would use them to play OPR or Stargrave or whatever, then it would be welcome in this thread, because miniature agnostic games allow every miniature.

>>96197962
Nta but

>>What is /awg/?
>A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.
Straight from the OP pasta.

>>96197969
Exactly. But not exclusively minis. So if someone wants to talk about game X and uses space marines to play it, then so be it. Miniature Agnostic games exist for exactly that reason, so you can use all minis you might have at home.

>>96197962
I misquoted and meant to reply to the 40cuck guy (because they're not 40k),
felt bad because I actually like that dudes models

>>96198041
>But not exclusively minis
Not really and the phrasing is clear on that but you are free to have your opinion. Arguably with how popular 30k has become they don't qualify for "falling between the cracks" anyways.

>>96198085
Where do you draw the line? Are WGA Guard proxies, like the Halflings, okay? OPR Not-Necrons? Mantic Goblins?

>>96195892 (OP)
Still slowly plugging away at my Coftyran Quar, looking forward to the tanks and the Arnyarans whenever those finally come out.

>>96198160
I don't like drawing lines because things don't really fit neatly into lines. 30k is currently considered by GW as a mainline game (one can argue whether it really is), and the fanbase has changed a lot compared to the time when, 7–8 years ago, it was a boutique line of miniatures with expensive leather-bound fluff + rules books attached to it. Back then 30k fit nicely into /awg/ but it already had its own general, not that that's something that bars discussion of a game outside of things like Warmachine or Infinity when one of their editions dropped and we saw /awg/ threads going lightspeed. Lately, I've been on a live-and-let-live approach, so when I saw those Myrmidons, I just looked at them, smiled at how much love had been put into them and scrolled past even if 30k arguably isn't too alternative anymore. The rest of those companies are obviously /awg/ material, hell we've even discussed epic armageddon or other GW games here over the years so that alone should allow any non-GW wargame/mini.

Is OPR Warfleets any good and worth a punt? I'm looking for something a bit like Battlefleet Gothic.

>>96198554
Not at all. Either dog up BFG or try Dropfleet Commander or something. Im not a big anti OPR schizo like some anons in here, but Warfleet is dogshit for a space naval battle game

Making another little scatter piece. Going to affix one of the loaded wheelbarrows I did up onto this base. The plan is to build up the cork rock in PVA to form a crude "hill" or pile. Then I will cover that in a texture paste to create a solid surface where I will then throw down some basing mix to create the appearance of a pile of dug up earth. That alongside the wheelbarrow I figure would pass for some light cover for a figure in a skirmish game setting. Or alongside some of the other scatter pieces to create a larger array of cover in a formation based game.

I'll post an update when the texture paste is on and dried to report whether or not it worked how I am hoping it will.

>>96198614
What makes it bad? Or maybe I should say, what makes BFG or Dropfleet better than OPR Warfleets?

Legitimately, how good if Argatoria?

>>96198656
Are you making an India themed table?

Any dungeon crawling wargames? Doesn't have to be made specifically for Dungeons, just something that let's me crawl around a dungeon/space station with /my dudes/?

>>96197676
They're 19mm actually, they're fake pennies made of plastic for kids. But yes, I have 25mm bases on 28mm troops, the footprint is far too large aesthetically, and also it's harder to play them in confined places that are important for modern gaming, like trenches or CQB

>>96198832
I hate 25mm*

>>96198799
Space Station Zero maybe?
You generate each conflict somewhat randomly on a table and play out the scenario inside, it has some light rpg elements too if that's you're jam. Sorry but that's the best I can think of, wouldn't mind seeing other peoples answers as well though

>>96198852
Isn't that the game made by that soiboy Tabletop Minions on jewtube?

>>96198799
Five Parsecs

>>96198863
That's the one, but I can easily look past ecelebs if t he game is good

>>96198799
Rangers of Shadow Deep

>>96199085
Shadow deep inside your mums twat mate

>>96198799
something torches and shields something
idk it was about dwarves in dungeons, maybe not crawling just skirmish don't remember

>>96199173
You being racist at greggs again?

>>96199374
You aren't?

>>96199447
Just checking, lad.

>>96196149
I think the closest would be some GURPS books that discuss how GMs can create that shit for their own games.

The easiest would probably be a SoBaH hack - make it so baseline warriors can access only mundane traits, then add some tribe specific ones, and then add supernatural ones that depend on your gods and ancestor spirits but demand some kind of sacrifice, restriction or ritual to access. Something like - tribe prohibits use of ranged weapons in exchange for access to say Tough trait or something similarly powerful.

>>96198660
Some people just hate on OPR for no real reason, Warfleets is fine, plus you can use whatever you want for the ships. Theres none of the lore background so I guess you cannot play a narrative or lore based campaign at least not without some input or level of thought from yourself. Its fairly well balanced and the ships are all pretty customizable to however you want to build your fleet, as long as you use the Force Organization rules things should be fairly balanced.

>>96199003
My current obsession. I'm sure Brigade will be releasing their new rules any day now. It's only been...14 years.

What are some cool alternative wargame alien model lines?

>>96196149
Write it yourself, surely if any thread is insane enough to try busty barbarian bimbo tribal generator for wargames it'd be this one.

Painting up the Court of Two stuff from The Other Side for use in a Dethwizards game, but it looks like I'll need a few more varieties of ghost.
Any suggestions for other "Ghosts wearing masks" to fit with the theme?

>>96199200

Torch&Shield. It's a skirmish pvpve game but you can co-op it up. Just remember it's off theme to share.

now that the dust has settled, what is the verdict on Midgard?

To whichever Anon recommended Golden Dragon for my Konflikt 47 stuff: Thanks, these will be good as Automated Mobile Platforms

(The rocket pod is a light howitzer)

>>96203314
No one in this thread played it.

>>96203323
No one in this thread has anyone that wants to play anything but GW slop.
I'll take OPR, anything. Sure no one wants to try Busido or Clan War, but fuck.

>>96203330
>No one in this thread has anyone that wants to play anything but GW slop.
False and clearly meant to proceed with the false flag you posted here >>96203314. Seek help.

>>96203322
Nice. Glad you found some stuff you like. They posted some weird bren carriers this month, which I personally like a lot (I'm not a mech/walker-guy)

>>96203341
Take those meds.

>>96203347
I saw those, but I already have an STL for regular carriers, so I'm set there.

>>96203330
The trick is to play for yourself. Why would you need anyone to enjoy your hobby?

>>96203330
>Sure no one wants to try Busido or Clan War, but fuck.
I've got a few hundred koku of Unicorn that would disagree. Although I never bothered to get ashi-kyu and I probably should have.

>>96203377
Most of the hobby is modeling and painting and that's all solo, but still.

>>96203330
>No-game no-model projecting
Sad.

>>96197676
>Base is too large!
Curious brand of autism. ngl

ur models r 4ever. ur rulebooks r 4ever.
You may not have someone to play with now.
but your models are immortal, and one day you will have someone to play with.
It could be someone who used to dig that game.
Or someone just getting into wargames so you get them onto your niche awg to start

>>96202959
The masks look pretty simple. Are you sure you couldn't just grab any ghosts and green stuff some?

>>96202455
This come up with your own tables like:

Tribal Environment
1. Forest
2. Plains
3. Swamp
4. Costal/River
5. Hills/mountains
6. Desert

Forest Tribe Totem
1. Bear - +1 Strength, Access to Berserkers
2. Wolf - Teamwork, Access to Ulfhenier
3. Boar - + 2 constitution, all warriors can choose glutton flaw
4. Moose/Elk - +1 Strength +1 constitution
5. Eagle - +1 to hit with reached attacks, shamans start with flight
6. Rabbit +1 movement speed, youngbloods cost 2 less to hire

>>96204300
>le animal totem
eh.

>>96204300
I was thinking what type of barbarian (stone age, bronze age, iron age), what their religion is (animism, druidic, shamanism, idol worship, beast worship, monotheism), that sort of thing.
Copying the environment one.

>>96204315
It's a trope and just an example.
Post something else if you like.

Is Billhooks Fantasia worth trying for large fantasy skirmish?

might get into this game with this release, new chorfs didnt have a land train with their new release but this peaks the sperg in me in all the right ways

>>96205961
I thought this game was victorian, is it just fantasy steampunk?

>>96204270
That... Didn't occur to me. But that does work!

>>96205957
I have yet to hear anything positive about it. Other than someone who trolls by saying "it's fun" and refusing to elaborate.

>>96195892 (OP)
Anyone interested in We played God, Arsenal or Red Jungle?
They seem interesting.

>>96205957
It's my favorite fantasy rank and flank. Billhooks proper is an amazing late medieval ruleset that for me is almost perfect. The activation system/turn sequence, the cavalry rules, the morale routing mechanic, the initial scouting phase that no other game has really done before.
The Fantasia supplement is very enjoyable if you love the base game, which I do, but some hardcore fantasy anons have complained that there isn't enough monster profiles or spells. That's a fair complain, but since it's built up on such a solid foundation I am not too bothered by the fact there isn't 100 different army lists of monster profiles. As for spells, I love the spell system, where it adds cool effects to the game but ismt all powerful like in Warhammer Fantasy. I like the spell mechanic where some powerful spells take multiple turns to cast.
If you have any questions let me know, I play it alot

>>96206479
>If you have any questions let me know, I play it alot

do you have any pics of your army to give an example of what a Billhooks fantasy army would look like?

>>96205957
It's awful. It's a half hearted bolt on to the historical game and it shows it. There's no real difference between races, you basically have something like 4 or 5 traits that you can buy to bolt on to the unit to make it "fantasy" whilst the monster rules are plain awful - one generic profile and 5 traits you can buy for it, one of which is literally just "+1 wound" (the base profile only has 1). There's no interesting units, no distinctions between monsters, nothing to distinguish wolf riders from elven light horse, or a troll from a war elephant. If you enjoy shallow games then go for it, personally I recommend Oathmark or Midgard.

Wargames Factory and RGDgaming Amazons. Both now sadly oop abd who knows when Warlord and Wargames Atlantic will reprint them.
Sure people can more than make do with existing 2 kits from Northstar and like of Shieldwolf's plastic range, but the talk of barbarian women makes me lament the lack of a dedicated Amazon kit. I think this leaves the blood bowl team standing alone.

>>96206620
It makes me lament. There was a promising Female Forest Tribe kickstarter years back, but it went nowhere.
Its weird to me that there is a genuine lack of plastic Amazon/European style Female tribal kits out there.

>>96206613
Hahaha right on queue, the antiBillhooks sperg with his same copy/pasted complains

>>96206613
Just play Warhammer: The Old World, because that's clearly what you're looking for in a game
Also,
>Midgard

>>96206112
i would say its more alt ww1 victorian diesel punk than steam punk. i think describing DW and AC as steampunk is kinda incorrect because whenever i think of steampunk i think things covered in random ass pipes/gears and an overt use of brass. the setting as a whole feels more like the vibe/ aesthetic of the dishonored games if you've played them but the factions in DW an AC can vary wildly in design language

they also just released the russians and not too long after releasing the germans, the germans using a7vs as inspiration for their mbt

>Two old homosexual bongers live rent free in one spergs mind.
Just let it go mate.

>>96206560
Well played.

Is there any campaign-games set in a fantasy stone age? Something like Mordheim but unga-bunga style.
If not, is there anything to read/watch about wargame gamedesign so i could make one?

>>96208761
Palaeo Diet.

>>96207061
Nigga, you can sperg with that cope as much as you like, it does not change the facts: Billhooks is an okay historical game that does the period okay, the Fantasia supplement is downright awful and completely fails to be a credible game, and it says as much as you have to defence or recourse to my points save a miserable
>"Y-YOUR a sperg"
gasp, to which I say to thee: Cope.

>>96207110
So what the guys gay. Midgard is good for what it does. Its a little generic for my tastes, but for massed battles with low fantasy armies it does really well. Unlike you I am able to disassociate the work from the creator.
>Just play Warhammer: The Old World, because that's clearly what you're looking for in a game
It clearly is not, as you would know if you played games instead of autistically sperging out over the writers tastes (which dont even enter into the end product by the way).

>>96209000
Hahaha I KNEW with 100% certainly you were the green playdoh turd snake guy, and sure enough here you are posting the same models that are in the same unpainted state they've been in for years.
That's why this general is a joke, some nigga asks for an objective review of Billhooks Fantasia and you just can't resist bickering about your retarded billhook/Oathmark spergfest feud.

I didn't read a word you posted btw

>>96209268
>I didn't read a word you posted btw
Lol just took the L

>>96205961
I really, really wanted to get into Amoured Clash because it is a little bit 19th century rifle and sabre, a little bit "uranium"-punk and obviously recalls Epic 40k when it was cool but man, buy-the-starter-set-to-play-the-skirmish-game-but-here-are-the-unit-and-mission-cards-and-the-full-game-is-over-here-in-this-book-and-you-can-just-buy-two-one-player-starters-and-then-two-one-player-starters-to-play-the-optimal game

Maybe at a pinch I'll buy the Brit and German entry boxes and use the Fistful of Lead VSF rules.

>>96205957
https://www.wargamevault.com/product/520073/Elf-Knyghte-Pyke-Sworde?src=newest

>>96209268
>>96209000
Oathmark is better.

>>96204037
I love my younger brother (we are both pushing 40) but it's so freaking hard to get him to understand that we don't have to play GW, that other stuff costs half as much at most, that the freedom to kitbash and not worry about rules meta and engage with history and all the things he likes are juuust over that hill. He literally paid for Warhammer plus and plays all the computer games and talks about how it would be great to hobby again someday.

>>96203957
Base-ically why I don't post here much anymore.

>>96210175
Why not sit down with him and actually play something he likes? Why preach to him instead of just playing?

>>96210243
Where did you get the idea that I was preaching to him? I don't even care for the setting

>>96210260
>it's so freaking hard to get him to understand that we don't have to play GW, that other stuff costs half as much at most, that the freedom to kitbash and not worry about rules meta and engage with history and all the things he likes are juuust over that hill.

Comes across as you being an annoying preacher.

>>96210410
I'm no autodidact

>>96199003
I love their coomer minis so much. I'm lToo bad many neck beards enjoy being pearl clutchers.

>>96209268
Man said he was after skirmish rank and flank and asked of Billhooks Fantasia was any good.
I responded by telling him its not, why, in my opinion, its not, and recommending what are in my opinion better alternatives.
You have so far seethed, failed at coping, and not actually provided any counters to my points, instead launching adhominens and attacks on my character. You are either incapable of arguing back against my core points, or know I am correct and are too busy seething and malding.

>>96210777
I was amazed to find thar a lot of them are still for sale
Checked

>>96195892 (OP)
About to get done with some conquest models. Didn't mean to lean into the pastele range, but i'm liking it, too bad i'll have to shade everything and destroy it

>>96211314
a light shade will only boost the models anon!

>Stargrave Automaton's finally available for sale in Ausfagland
Yay :D

>>96210180
Base-d

>>96210777
My nigga. I love their Gaels a lot, and Brigade do entire army boxes of female Gaels.

I recently bought their Sidhe army (a friend is thinking of getting Gaels), and although I was slightly disappointed there were no big tiddy waifus, they seem like pretty cool models. I'm looking forward to painting them this weekend.

Is eM4 miniatures dead? Their website doesn't work anymore.

>>96211979
Their facebook made a post 19 hours ago, and yesterday they posted about looking for more events to attend next year. Just some gremlins in the servers.

>>96211927
please post them painted or not becasue the website doesnt have pics for half the products

>>96211979
They were posting on instagram like nothing was wrong just yesterday so it's probably just a problem with the website
Would suck if they were dead

>>96212062
Perhaps the britbong gov tough it was a danger to kids and took it down.

>>96213898
>say genocide bad
>life ruined

>>96210800
Not reading all that lol!

Decided I want to be able to swap my K47 Hornet to a Grizzly and back, so I hacked together a set of alternative gun plates for it. Got a Grizzly one (barrel prints separate), a Hornet with the quad HMGs and autocannon, and a blank one for the Kodiak.

Anyone have a similar need and want me to upload them somewhere?

Do you consider a token with a stiker a miniature?

>>96215594
really cutting expenses

>>96215594
I've played with stuff like that, markers, tokens, standees. They're useful for things that will overlap other units frequently or effects like fog or spiky ground. Wouldn't call them miniatures though.

>>96210777
Please stop posting minis like that before they ban 4chins in the uk.

>>96218344
They already did.

>paint figure
>no idea what to use it for

>>96218344
I think you're onto something.

>>96219386
Reaper:
>we can't do things like bikini girls anymore, we have to grow and change
Also Reaper:
>BIG BOOTY BITCHES BIG BOOTY BITCHES BIG

>>96219425
How long ago did they say that because they were giving this shit away for free with last Christmas' orders

>>96219457
I remember it from one of their Bones 4 twitch streams. I think from when they where showing off the succubi.
Not gonna shift through literal hours of vods though, so it's fine to take is as bullshit.

>>96219425
Yeah a weird take since all the Sophie models are pushed by a female sculptor iirc.

>>96219425
What games can I play with an army of Succubuses?

>>96215594
Mogo doesn't scale with tabletop games.

>>96219692
One Hand Rules
Never Mind the Bellend Fantasia
Midtown Heroic Battles
Jizzmark
Warlords of Godnroh
Saga: Age of (Sexual) Fantasy
Knobgobblin'
Kings of Whore

>>96219761
That is why he at the start of the game goes to his card, do you see the planet outside the map, like it is in orbit

>>96219832
Kek

What can you tell me about a game called Warzone Mutant Chronicles? I just found this book in a street market stand and it picked my interest.

Update on the dirt pile scatter piece. While the cork rocks piled up and slathered in texture paste worked, there are certainly better ways to do it. I used the cork rocks with weight in mind, given the scatter mix has earth and real rocks in it, I thought a big clump of milliput might end up making it a little weighty. Just with the texture paste this one is already quite heavy. For an alternative, I thought of using a clump of crunched up tinfoil. I initially used the cork rocks to create a more natural hill look. You could probably pull it off with the tinfoil. I know some guys use it to save space sculpting large pieces with milliput or green stuff. Though even with the gaps in the large cork rocks filled in with smaller cork bits, I had to slather on a considerable amount of texture paste. Luckily I have a bunch of it that is drying up so I just used a bunch of that. Decided to extend the base by adding a second smaller base to it by strapping it on with some styrene I had laying around and fusing them together with superthin plastic cement. I also found a little shovel and stuck it in a pile of texture paste to add to the ambience.

Now I will put on the scatter mix And affiix the wheelbarrow to the base.

>>96220581
I can tell you that people have tried to reboot it twice and neither time did the models look as good as the originals. First time they tried to make them look more realistic and I think the company went bankrupt and renamed themselves, the second time was a kickstarter that stuck closer to the old art style but had a really limited scope and may or may not have delivered yet.
Prince August bought up a ton of the old stock and some or all of the old molds and sells new castings from them.

>>96220641
Is the book I own from the original run or the first reboot? It look quite GROG-ish (definetly from the 90s) and I really dig some of the minis showcased.

I've come into some Amazon money. What are the best /awg/ kits I can get on there.

>>96220938
The Halo Flashpoint stuff is on Amazon. Worth starting with the Spartan Edition starter set which is only like $80. All of the expansions have kicked ass so far too. Having a lot of fun with Rise of the Banished and the new ODST set drops in October.

>>96220838
That's from the original, the first reboot was called Resurrection and the second one is Eternal

>>96210777
God I wish that Brigade would ship to EVROPA, I AM WILLING TO PAY EXTRA FOR SOME METAL CASTED TITS

>>96220641
It's still in the process of delivering. Sadly, it's not gotten a lot of traction, since the company is more or less just one guy, and he sucks at marketing.

What do we think about them

>>96221364
Lots of minis in that box set, should be a good value. As for how they'll perform on the tabletop, the flamethrower is a little scary, but I think the Brutes are going to generally wipe the floor with them.

Looks like Nyss are making a return in the new Dusk army. This is likely the content of the next 2 players set with the new fury based Orgoth too

Lots of the rest of OU shown off too, and 2 models from Kithguard

>>96221616
The OU stuff, ranged liegemen, bear cav + solo, bear shapeshifters, and apparently the bottom left is one of the casters

>>96221047
Alright then. Looks like promising stuff. I'll dig deeper into it.

>>96220581
Literally my favourite retro wargame, Miniatures can still be purchased by way of PrinceAugust.

>>96220581
>>96223081
Forgot to mention, all the rules can be found here
https://www.mutantpedia.com/eng/Warzone.html

>>96221364
Love 'em, already preordered to get Buck and Dare.

Turning out alright, I think. Just gonna add more rock chunks and gravels onto the pile, paint the shovel seal it all and call it done. Maybe throw a small tuft or two down somewhere if it looks good.

Overall not disappointed with the outcome, but there are easier ways to go about it in terms of structuring the hill itself like I detailed in the previous post.

Probably gonna make a little tent thing out of some canvas and the broken A frame scaffolding piece there to go with this and the other two pieces I did today. Sort of like a mining camp, or work camp collection of scatter when it's all together, but generic enough that it will fit plenty of different settings. Got this Renedra cottage I'm working on too, from an old civil war box set from Perry I got a few years back. Along with all the hay bales, hitching rails etc it'll make a nice little homestead layout for some wild west action, perhaps.

>>96221616
Forgot that GenCon was this weekend. I see that they are continuing the trend of everything Orgoth looking good, except the core of the Sea Raiders.

>>96219386
please.

>>96219386
>30238_w_2
k nvm thank you very buch

https://miniset.net/sets/rm-30238

Teddy sculpt progress.

>>96220641
>>twice
dude

>>1st ed WZ
>>2nd ed w better proportioned minis
>>UWZ rulebook only 3rd ed
>>the fantasy flight giant heroclix type minis one
>>prodos' skinny plastic edition and its 2nd ed
>>warzone eternal

and thats leaving out the OG RPG books had a metal mini line and the multiple board games including siege of the citadel second edition with its metric ton of kickstarter mini expansions

>>96220581
also my favorite game. honestly, it dying so many times i feel has protected me from endlessly plugging money into something like warhammer. warzone wanted to go down that dark growth path in 2nd edition but never made it that big. for lore, i would recommend following the other anons' mutantpedia link and reading the RPG books first. algeroth's is the best. for minis, warzone eternal should be in retail sometimeish before going under too so i'm waiting for that small window to get the new venusian rangers and mortificators.

>>96220581
if youre in spain there is a huge warzone community over there. i dont recall their old timey forum website but im sure you can find them on the facebook groups.

>>96224055
I am now angry about Curse Bound Cadre being Raiders locked all over again.

>>96224384
Yeah. I'd have loved to have seen Oriax and the Ravaners get the Yana treatment, especially since they've showen they could do it. At least it's more options for Raiders that help avoid taking their infantry.

Also, the new set may be lending some credence to the rumors of Fanes being a Fury army.

>>96224264
I really wish Eternal does well, but I don't have a lot of hope. At least hoping it lasts long enough to get some of the stuff they've shown off for future releases.

>>96224125
cutē

Booba and sneks.

>>96223911
nice

>>96225432
God I am hyped for Jungle Work Trollkin.

>>96221616
>>96221654
So which ones of those are confirmed to be plastic? No fucking way I will buy 3D printed minis no matter how good the design is.

>>96225945
Most likely the shelf with the elves and undead. Apparently they are holding off actually announcing that its a plastic kit until later.

>>96221616
Oh please, tell tme the poor nyss get out of this semi alive as a culture or something because man they have suffered enough. but that seems orgoth magic they are playing with...

>>96225992
Its most likely two separate cadres for another 2 player set. We knew Orgoth was getting a warlock with undead warbeasts for a while now.

>>96220581
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/pique-curiosity-interest-etc

>>96220641
I've had this chunky fucker sat on my desk for ages

>>96225945
>No fucking way I will buy 3D printed minis no matter how good the design is
Oh shit you reminded me about the Matt Apologist schizo that used to post here.
Remember how he claimed PP's shitty prints are of better quality than hard plastic kits? Whenever people were posting pics of PP's prints he was having a massive meltdown and claimed those were all old pictures of the first-batch prints until someone Anon posted his minis confirmed by PP customer support to be printed with their miraculous "new resin formula" and he ended up having a mental breakdown.
Funny thing, he stopped to post the moment PP's assets were transferred to SFG. Perhaps the based PP Basher-kun was right and that guy was either a PP's intern or Matt himself.

>>96212051
Not able to paint them till the weekend unfortunately. I bought a Sidhe medium army and they've only just arrived.

They're very Conan-esque, with some of the heavily armoured hero models looking like Chronopia characters (not surprising given the history of the game). There's no coomer models (except possibly the unique sorceress), but every unit does have female variant models and these tend to be waif-like with breastplate instead of the Gael's thick-thighed waifus in bikini armour.

The sculpts are extremely clean with minimum faults. I did spot a tiny, barely noticeable mould line in the hair of the sorceress - but it's so small I'm not even sure if it is worth dealing with (I can only see it looking at it from certain angles). There was also a tiny bit of flash around several models' swords/boots, with more little bits of flash on the dragon riders who are covered in a row of spikes. It's not really an issue - the clean-up was minimal, I didn't have to deal with any big pieces of flash, there were no miscasts or anything like that. All in all I'd say the sculpts are very clean and well made.

The cricket bat swords are probably an acquired taste. I love them. The Greatswords are as big as the elves themselves and I think that's pretty funny.

The only sculpt I don't really like is female retainer who is in a sort of executioner pose. Her silhouette just makes her look like a blob of metal.

I wish HFminis was still open so I could get some more Kev White elves to go with these. Not sure if the proportions would work but the faces are the same.

>>96224294
That's good to know. Indeed, there are lots of grog communities here so I'm not surprised. I'll look for them.

>>96219832
Quality post.

>>96226423
Found em. They're super-generous too from what I recall.

Are em4 plastic miniatures actually HIPS plastic? Will plastic glue work with them well like with standard hard plastic minis or is it the soft plastic used for 1/72 scale minis?

>>96226458
Thanks for the spoonfeeding. I'll make an FB account.

New DZC plastics spotted

>>96226581
>>96226579
Any infantry sprues? This is where the game was lacking in terms of quality minis in the first place.

>>96226597
None so far, though I agree they're the weak spot of the range atm. Maybe they make a sprue for a few different types of infantry at once.

I am looking for a mecha skirmish wargame that focuses solely on mechas, ground units not being present at all or being an optional addition at most rather than making up the bulk of your force.
Preferably up to 10 minis per player but the fewer the better.
Bonus points for bio-constructs/kaijū being a playable faction if there are any factions in the first place.
Any recommendations? I am about to test Flames of Orion soon since it seems to be checking the boxes but I want to give a few different systems a try.
>Inb4 BattleTech

>>96226642
Battletech.

>>96226597
a few 3d printed in the corner here

>>96226682
>hazardsuits
Those are like the least fragile resin infantry they're making

>>96226003
I have to donwload /and pay/ for the app or do they have the lore in books/web?

>>96221364
Not a big Halomans guy but there's no aliens in the box, right? How do you distinguish the Halomans when playing against each other? Are there two factions of Halomans?

>>96221086
I'm pretty sure they solve their EU issue?

>>96227015
From what I know about Halo, there are regular marine Halomans, and then there are the power armoured Halomans like Master Chief. The regular marines are a bit shorter and lack any augmentation, so they're a bit shitter.

Model wise it'll probably be like Mantic's GCPS marines and the Enforcers, since Warpath took a lot from Halo when it was being written.

>>96227046
>>96221086
Just checked and they have this message up on their home page.

Spaniardanon here again. Does anyone know anything about this game? There's very little about it online.

Warmachine won fucking hard rules, lore and model wise only draw back is its fucking expensive

>>96227115
After 3rd edition hit, I couldn't even give my Warmachine models away. Not even joking.

>>96226476
The orcs Ave dwarves I've got are regular plastic and work fine with regular glue.

>>96227126
I picked up a tonne of cryx, some menoth and some ord for very very cheap, which makes mk4 prices even harder to swallow. Compared to other games its so expensive but the models are all original and neat so I get it.

>>96225432
>>96225460
I need to get this good at painting.

Well, fuck me. All the earlier shilling for Konflikt 47 actually made me curious. I will hold out for IJA resculpts though. The US starter looks good but just a little too modern.
>>96226642
Gamma Wolves?
>>96224169
>siege of the citadel
I still have the original. We used to create new homebrewed content using Warzone minis. Shit was cash. Too bad I sucked at painting at the time, pic related.

>>96227015
>>96227072
Two factions right now: UNSC (Spartans and now ODSTs) and Banished (Brutes and Elites)
There's rumors of 3 more factions on the way. Not hard to tell your guys from the other side since there's only 3-6 miniatures per side. All-Spartan teams are usually 4 guys unless you're bringing the Master Chief, Brutes are cheaper and more flexible in that regard. I expect ODSTs to be even cheaper, it seems that the intent is to bring them in teams of around 8.

>>96227537
Is the Master Chief worth getting?

>>96227685
He's fun and fairly strong in friendly games, but he's very luck dependent and not really competitive. He's the strongest Spartan unit by his statline, but his gimmick relies almost entirely on your command dice rolls and he doesn't come equipped with a ranged weapon unless you buy one for him.

Atriox on the other hand, manages to be both the strongest Banished model AND buff his whole team AND is like 2 points cheaper than chief AND his hammer has a ranged attack profile.

>>96227789
I should also note that while Chief is strong, he's only one model and most of Flashpoint's gametypes are objective-based. Chief isn't the guy who should carry a flag or a power-seed or be sitting on the hill, he can maybe carry the oddball pretty good. But, he's built for killing, not objectives.

>>96227796
So he's just a Sly Marbo kind of unit then, huh?

>>96227537
once they add jackals and grunts I am 300% buying the entire line but right now im not too into the multiplayer vibe they led with. I am a lot more into this unsc vs banished vibe though.
Are the ODST named characters though? thats a little odd

>>96228049
The only named characters for the ODSTs are the limited edition Buck and Dare minis right now. The other ODSTs are unit types like Captains, Lieutenants, Bullfrogs, Firebreaks, etc. The multiplayer vibe isn't going away, organized play even has seasons with participation tracked online (Mantic is shipping the leader of next season a Spartan statue with their face sculpted on it, leaders in each region will get a smaller generic statue).
>>96228009
He gets to use as many command dice as he wants per activation, multiple free Advances, multiple free Shooting actions, whatever dice he happens to have rolled.

>>96227102
Primera vez que lo veo, nunca lo eh visto por donde vivo cerca de barcelona.
Y no, no voy a decir nada mas para que no me identifiquen, eh tenido malas experiencias con gente de /tg/ como espagnoll y demas.
>>96227115
I have a love/hate for warmahordes, they have such cool concepts, but I hate pauldroncore, I love warjacks... But I would prefer them to be piloted. I dislike steamtech, what cygnar is doing is more what I would love, with less Gi Joe aestethics, but the new factions like Umbar is interesting.
Also Free Everblight! HE did nothing wrong, he doesn't deserve whatever they are doing with its athancs to make those lame ass mecha-saurs.

>>96227015
Most of the Halomen are actually Super Sentai Halom'n so you've almost certainly painted yours in a different set of solid primary colors.
The regular Halomen might be harder to distinguish since they have a more uniform... uniform. But you probably didn't paint them exactly the same shade or style even if you were going for the same look.

>>96226839
All the new lore is in the app. They did say they eventually want to bring the old novels to it, to make the price more worth it. I wish someone would rip it all and post it online.

if anyone has played blood berets can you explain the jist of the rules I have tried to understand it but the blip thing I just cant get

>>96228792
Bloody hell I hate apps. half the time they die in the most obnoxious times.

>>96196183
completed yet more figures for stargrave and space weirdos which is where my brother and gf are happy to begin. 16 page rulebook is a way easier ask. tested contrast and.speed paint, taking the v2 Vallejo stuff out completely. it's not amazing but after a dull cote will be good for a game.

>>96228181
>I have a love/hate for warmahordes
>but I actually hate all of the things that are core to the setting and aesthetic

>>96228181
to be fair the game is not very pauldroncore now, just a few characters are and plenty of warsuits now too

whats a wargame im sleeping on, imagine I dont play any right now. What game would you suggest, has it got sick minis. Please show some games you love off!

>>96228181
When some redditor in this board annoys me I just call them faggot and move on.
In any case, I found the book in Sanlúcar de Barrameda, near Cádiz. Kinda weird that we're located in opposites corners of the Peninsula and we can't find anything on the book on any end.
All I was able to find online is that the book is for a 2002 rpg system, which is weird since the contents scream "printed in the late 80s".

Dreamblade had some seriously cool models. DM era yugioh monster vibe with how wierd and creepy they are. I think the ugly colourful bases didnt help the game much

>>96228969
sauce on the yellow helmets with visors on the right, please
are those from death fields cannon fodder?

>>96229664
Also being blind bag gacha bullshit.

>>96229780
nta but yeah it's from the cannon fodder kit.

>>96229918
thought so, thank you
I really need to pick one of those up

Has any ruleset done something similar to Saga battleboards? Activated abilities seem ripe for exploring customization or deployment

>>96229937
NTA, but they're a great little kit. I'm gonna be using them in orange jumpsuits for Imperial Guard Conscripts.

>>96226391
Thank you, and quick turn around too. I can see how beautifully cast they are, so shiny you'd hardly want to put paint on them. Personally I love the other side swords.
I'm looking to display an old chunky fantasy game, 2 forces standing off sort of thing. I'm deciding between celtos and chronopia.

Chronopia firstborn are really cool models, but I don't really care about the other factions atleast I havent seen any yet I care for, and firstborn dont seem to have a good centrepiece

Do celtos armies have any good centre pieces? I could imagine a cool display between celtos armies and its so much cheaper since they are still being cast/ atleast sold

>>96229318
But I love the worm, the fey, Menoth, Everblight, the monsternomicon is my prefered rpg bestiary and I started with the whole RPG stuff because I love monsters, the horde stuff with controling beast made me very happy, luv skorne.
But I hate steam aestethics wich is why I never ever bougth a mini for this game. Bloody expensive too.

>>96229486
Conoci algunos en la vida real, por eso estoy paranoico, nunca mais.
>>96229325
If they didn't have shit in an app perhaps, I loved the books they made, but that game is cursed and I don't know if the new ip holders are anything like trustworthy, mixed signals for what I see.

>>96230008
It just works

>>96227115
>>steampunk

>>96227115
Is it really that good and beloved? Never tried it myself, but the single roll for the whole unit, mandatory named characters, and a amount of fucking tokens always turned me away

lads, what are some rules where I can build armies like this but with fantasy minis?

>>96230545
Could it be Saga? so probably Saga Age of Magic?

>>96230545
It baffles me no one has made a setting world about the diadochai but fantasy. Such a cool place in history.

>>96230630
Be the change you want.

>>96230630
Too obscure for normies, too fantastical for people who would be into that

>>96230522
>Single roll for the whole unit
Not at all, anon. Each unit activate to make their rolls individually, and it's 2d6 system.

>>96230668
Sorry each model IN a unit, to be exact.

>>96230292
Nice nice nice

>>96230682
I was mislead then, i was told that its 2d6 and you add the stat of every model in a unit, to make a single roll for the whole unit

>>96230980
Some units can do that if they have the ability to do so, but it's not innate ability to most of them.

>>96230980
Nah it's literally the opposite
Whoever told you that is retarded

Combat is a models attack stat + 2d6 vs target's defense, if it meets the defense value it hits (ex melee attack of 5 +2d6 vs defense of 13, you need an 8 or higher to hit). Then power of weapon + 2d6 vs armor, every point higher than the armor is a damage dealt. There's also many ways to get additional dice into those rolls.

Outside of any of the rest of the stuff about Warmachine as a game, the core resolution system is excellent.

>>96224534
A Fury army possibly led by Lanyssa Rysyll, if I'm reading this sword correctly.

>>96230630
I wrote a Reacting to the Past game set during the period for an undergrad class.

>>96231320
The leaks confirm that. The cats are both character heavy warbeasts with the same rules but different names and flank with each other

>>96231527
Did someone accidentally upload WIP to the app again?

>>96231527
Do the cats have movement based abilities like acrobat, jump, etc?

>>96231562
This is from the same big leak last year

>>96231635
Huh, I didn't see it, only the Orgoth side.

>>96231661
What's this dude's name then, if you remember it?

>>96232084
I only saw the lock and her beasts. The lock is Anathis, she's a pretty heavy defenses spell-slinger with Abuse, Disintegrate, Gallows,Impending Doom, and a choice of 3 special rules when she activates.

The undead dog is a cheap-ish Argus with Mage Static. The big guy way in the back is the Barrow Ghoul, which is a heavy beast that debuffs around itself with Ashen Veil and Cursed.

Not a bad mix up, really.

>>96230640
I do, my homegrown is very based in conan, the bronze age, diadochai era and folklore (lots EA/MA dominions 6 inspiration too) but I want some cool stuff to rip off dammit.

>>96232084
That axe is beyond ridiculous. The rest of the faction looks awesome but I cannot take this one seriously due to that hug chunk of steel.

>>96232720
>dominons Chad.
Based.

>>96230292
hey look its the russkis in ukraine two years ago

>>96226476
>Are em4 plastic miniatures actually HIPS plastic? Will plastic glue work with them well like with standard hard plastic minis or is it the soft plastic used for 1/72 scale minis?
yes, they're plastic. The ones I've gotten were actually harder than normal gaming styrenes, they tend to tear or shatter if you try to knife off big chunks so you need to get out the saw to convert. I haven't tried model glue on them, I just used superglue.

>>96226423
if you poke around in the archives for the last few months, someone's been scanning a bunch of the old Warzone models. There's also all the borderline Warzone models in Void (Bauhaus, Capitol, and Mishima in particular). Now that Prince August is "running out" of some stuff it's worth checking out, and Mishima were always getting the shit end of the release stick to begin with.

>>96220581
>>96220838
That book is an early expansion for the first edition of Warzone. 2e was widely regarded as a bad idea - they did a whole bunch of the same gutting availability, "streamlining" rules and making armies five times bigger that Warhammer 40k 3e did. But with almost zero warning, and months after the 40k tournament scene took off. Then instead of actually finishing the main factions for 2e they blew all the dev time on a side project for a year. The edition change was so sudden a good half-dozen releases hadn't even made it to store shelves in the US before they were either illegal or had to have their rules completely replaced.
Anyway I'm saying you should play 1e Warzone, it's good and very silly. One of those games that clearly came out of an RPG, you can even make your own characters for it.

Man, it sucks warmachine is actually a pretty decent game, I would love if it was more generic and you could actually grown you own warband/warcaster and not have to use heroes. Literally they could have a generic caster or something along the generic warjacks/beasts for your own characters and self inserting better.
it sucks I'm so bad at making games or I would have made it but I suffer of "I want to make it simple, but I love bajillions options" sindrome.

>>96233107
You can take any model from before mk4 that is a similar stature to the one you want to proxy and just proxy it. Nobody will really care, I bought some mercs from mk2 to lead my army as an OC but using whatever profile I feel like.

Anyway this critique used to hold more weight when warhammer was the only other big game and named characters were just upgrades to generic archetypes like chapter master/captain vs named chapter master.
But now more and more games are doing this named characters are default thing and warmachine looks like way less of an outlier. Warhammer did it with primarchs being so much more powerful than chapter masters, kings of war for some reason went from generic leaders to named heroes in its newest release, I can't name them all but nearly every new game seems to do this now

Does anyone know where to get stl's of rumbleslam models? Or good wrestling stl proxies?

>>96230086
I love Chronopia, but good luck finding any of the old models. I'd recommend Celtos just because of that.

Celtos has some cool characters but (at least for the elves) nothing that's really big and eye catching. I like Drakken Sul, he's a big armoured elf with a sword bigger than him. The Elder Fire Serpent maybe, but I don't like his model.

The Gaels might have something. They have kings and queens carried on shields by retainers, and large chariots. Or the Fomorians, who have minotaur warleaders some of whom are very heavily armoured.

>>96230545
That looks like Hail Caesar I think, which from what I heard is basically like warmaster.

>>96230086
chronopia dorfs, orcs, and stygians have character.

I posted these on a warhams dorf thread and it got real quiet

>>96233454
many things I like about dwarfs, the heavy heavy armour, the enginiety, the grounding. But I just get into an entire race of midget people, just buff little dudes. It's so uncool to me, even though I do like the dwarfs in the hobbit I suppose.

Elves are much more interesting, being tall and slender and all a bit more evolved perhaps than humans are. It's interesting, but dwarfs just dont do it for me which is a shame

>>96233446
These guys look rad.

>>96233454
>>96233457
These guys do not. I think I'd rather the Warhams dwarves, and I don't particularly want to own any of those either.

>>96233454
>>96233457
I like them. Their barrel-like proportions are neat.

>>96233446
The Orcs are cool, the dwarfs are not my taste tho.

Im so sad. There is an old wargame I wanted models for they are extremely rare and dont often go up for sale on ebay. There was a bid today and the items sold for 5 and 8 quid respectively. But fucking sadly 20 minutes until the bid end my sister called me upset because her toddler fell over and she needed help getting them home. I completely forgot about the auctions and didnt leave a single bid. Then I came home an hour later and realised the bids were over. Trying to not think about it too much.

>>96233107
>you could actually grown you own warband/warcaster and not have to use heroes
In my opinion Warcaster solved this issue by introducing the player as a Warcaster with minis representing him as their avatars plus the customisable deck of cards.
>>96233136
>Warhammer did it with primarchs being so much more powerful than chapter masters
But you can still use a shit ton of generic characters that are often much more viable than named characters.
>kings of war for some reason went from generic leaders to named heroes in its newest release, I can't name them all but nearly every new game seems to do this now
Kings of War Champions is a Mantic's response to Age of Sigmar Spearhead. It is meant to have no listbuilding so whatever you get in your army box is everything you will ever need to play with that specific army.

>>96195892 (OP)
I was playing OPR with a friend and I got a little confused on the flamer rule.
So does he roll (flamer value) * models in unit?
This is our first game btw so we both didn't know what we were getting into.

>>96232720
I swear I'm going to make an Ermor army one day.
>>96232728
I had to do a double take. I thought it it was a shield at first glance.

>>96234370
Basado and skellypastillado.
I want to make an agarthan or abysian ones, but human, really like Ulm, Acroscephale and Pyrene.

>>96234212

If you're talking about a weapon with the blast special rule, you roll one (1) attack dice and if you hit, the attacked party must roll as many defence rolls as there are in the blast(X) bracket. So it's typically 3 defence rolls.

>>96234370
>I swear I'm going to make an Ermor army one day.
Its just putting legionary shields on skeletons how hard could it be?

We need a wargame utilizing labubus.

>>96234194
eh, the previous one was better

>>96235193
I was thinking more adding skelly heads to legionaries.

>>96230545
Warmaster
Fantastic Battles
Hordes of the Things or another dBX game
Wargames Atlantic’s 10mm Fantasy rules when they come out
Midgard
Hobgoblin or KoW if you scale them down

>>96197581
get some flock onto those bases

>>96234715
o ok I see. So we weren't really fucking up that rule.
We were playing on TTS so i'll figure out how to properly set up our next game. We didn't have most of our models actually with the weapons on and what not.
Neither of us really knew how to use the weird wonky OPR mod on TTS.

>>96235848

I can see the utility of using TTS to learn how rules of a game work, or just as a social lubricant to do something with a friend who is in a different city/state/country . But to me the main "thing" of tabletop wargaming is the spectacle of two painted armies/warbands clashing on the tabletop. Not to even get started on solo wargaming, which just seems SAD to me, a symptom of how atomized our current society is.

>>96235462
Switch WGA for Fantasy Rules! next time.

>>96236203
>Fantasy Rules!
?

>>96236269
Thats the title.

>>96236335
Yeah, nowhere to be found according to Google since the name is generic as fuck. Can you at least share the author's name or publisher?

Anyone got Frostgrave: Advanced Spellcraft yet? I've got a physical copy coming, but it'll be at least a few days to ship.

I guess there's a new edition of the quar rulebook in the works

>>96235806
No

>>96235462
>midgard

>>96235462
>Midgard.
>Hobgoblin.
This anon has a certain taste than I wouldn't recomend.

>>96236163
The reason why I wanted to play OPR is because my friend is very new to wargames.
WH40k has never been shittier, and i'd play bolt action/Konflikt 47 over OPR, but like I said before I want to ease my friend into wargaming.
Next thing i'm going to do with him is get him to print out cardstock for his army and see if he enjoys the "Hobby side" of the game as well. He probably will he's an artist.

>>96195892 (OP)
Does anyone know any decent 28-32mm APC's preferably with a turret. I've just played through FEAR 1&2 and I picked up a box of Mantic's Mazon labs and I am looking for an APC for them

What AWG game is the most like Necromunda

>>96237730
Stargrave seems like an obvious answer

>>96237730
Zone raiders

The whole shootin' mess for Stargrave. Didn't paint anything to completion post-childhood, was pretty much out of the hobby since 40k 3rd despite buying the odd model kit and osprey book.

So I hid my crew ii at the back because they were awful, really. They and the Feds were XPress colour and that is glossy, doesn't really flow or like water at all. Speed paint 2.0 (scavenger in purple only) handled the best and had a lot of flow, almost too much. Citadel Contrast (the rest) has the best colours I think. Sketch is too dark and blotchy I know and I should go back and paint some details but I just want to play some games with my gf and brother.

I will slowly rebuild everything here separate I think and try to paint it mostly with acrylics and washes. Slap chop is good for rock and roll but I don't love the result

>>96238366
Would be 20 but WGA plasma gun dude fell apart in my hands. I either drop the chunky MDF bases for plastic or use some dip to toughen these guys up... this is why I prefer multibasing... build 'em, paint 'em, dullcote 'em, never touch them again

>>96237730
In terms of goals and mechanics, it's This is Not a Test. I just straight up run Necromunda games in it with minimal adjustments. You could make a custom Wasteland/Underhive deck if you really wanted, I suppose. I sell it to the uninitiated as "Necromunda, but as good as you remember it being". Has the advantage of crossing over well with almost any grungy SF warbands. The game is really tightly put together, the author playtests the shit out of pretty much everything before he puts it to paper

Zone Raiders has better settlement and tech upgrade trees for the warband, the actual combat is extremely cover-focused and it really benefits from having a lot of vertical terrain. It's also a lot higher-tech than Necromunda, after a dozen games or so everyone's more like Spyrers than Ash Wasters or hive gangs. Having to recover your own casualties makes gameplay a lot sweatier once things start to go south and naturally forces warbands to bottle out (or even negotiate cease-fires) in a pleasingly organic way. If you're running only 2-3 warbands you really need to randomize secondary objectives occasionally or all the warbands will wind up specializing in just one, with larger groups that takes care of itself. It's much more "anime" than the others.

Last Days has a bigger focus on building your gang's territory and interpersonal tensions, and a lot more PvE. It's a zombie movie game, but it scratches some of the same itches. Combat is a lot less lethal than Necro in general, until it isn't. It rewards stealthy play and building up non-combat infrastructure. The Seasons supplement has some nice additional equipment and errata, but the actual Survival mode in it is pure masochism.

>Stargrave
Is a Frostgrave hack with more flexibility and less bookkeeping. It works fine. The "pirate" mechanics are great for simulating the Arbites crawling up your ass when you get too big for your britches. I prefer other stuff but I wouldn't turn up my nose

>>96236475
>obsessed
I hope you're one day able to accept your suppressed homosexuality, Anon. I don't want you to be this miserable.

>>96239044
I want to buy them a tea cosy

>>96239044
This should be considered spam and or/avatar-fagging. Sadly, mods are too busy with covering up for the rogue Polish janny as the leaks proved back then when 4chan was down.

>>96239067
I reported it as spam, it usually gets deleted eventually though if that's the jannies getting to the report or deleting all his posts because of shitposts elsewhere I cannot say.

>>96236352
Fantasy Rules! by Chipco

>>96236862
If your friend is new, and does not have a 40k Army, then opr is not the really easier than Bolt action. It's benefit is that you can use the army you have and just jump in, but if that does not apply, you can just as well go and play something else

>>96238981
What about houseruling TinT so you have to recover your own casualties there too? Would it improves or break the game?

Also when you said you prefer other stuff other Stargrave, do you have a specific game in mind?

>>96239474
>prefer other stuff
Well, TNT for one. Stargrave is a game I'll play if someone asks but I'm not going out of my way to run a campaign or GM for it.

>recovering casualties in TNT
The houserules would have to rework most of the postgame economy and movement systems. ZR has much looser scenario design and more movement tools; most of the TNT scenarios are designed around the existing limitations on movement and the economy assumes you're not constantly replacing gutshot juvies. In ZR recovering wounded and the shooting/cover systems effectively work as a sort of heat sink for all those extra movement options, and the entire game is written around gradually replacing your first warband as you upgrade your clan's biotech and manfacturing capabilities.
So it could be done, but I'm not sure how much it would add to TNT. You could certainly use the much harsher "hard mode" survival table for characters who aren't recovered, maybe also use the old rules where unrecovered OoA models can't scavenge.

is there a bolt action mega or something. I want to read the books and stuff.

>>96239676
First day?

>>96239676
Wrong thread buddy boy.

>>96240309
well fuck I tried to find it first.

Looking for games with dynamic and different ways of looking at Objectives. Preferably not something that has a Campaign built in. Skirmish game. I already looked at these
>Killteam
>Silver Bayonet
>Rangers of wherever the fuck
>THE DOOMED
>Zona Alfa
>Infinity
>BLKOUT
>Majestic-12
>LOONAR
>Last Days (or what ever the Zombie one was called)

>>96239067
>Sadly, mods are too busy with covering up for the rogue Polish janny as the leaks proved back then when 4chan was down.
lolwut

>>96240575
Heavy Gear. Units have a type, what unit type you have in your squad determines what objective they can perform. So, if you take basic bitch grunts, they have to hold the ground, if you take commandos they have to assasinate enemy or steal shit from their backline or something.

>>96240575
Malifaux has a ton of different objective types and I think the new edition put a big focus on making them even more dynamic

>>96240575
I woke second Malifaux. It doesn't get much more dynamic than both players picking a rotating pool of objectives every turn.

>>96241461
You remember when we had 15 le ebin shaerk threads created every day? AoS Anons were right, it was a rogue ass-blasted Polish Janny spamming the board he was supposed to keep clean. Not only that, /tg/ mods banned multiple people reporting those threads back then. During the last take-down when mods logs and jannies' data leaked it turned out to be 100% true.

>>96239619
>Old rules
As in TNT first edition?

>>96240575
The Halo Flashpoint game has CTF and Oddball

>>96226581
>>96226579

>STILL no sign of the new DFC Resistance Plastics even though the sprue's been finished and ready to go since April.

The fuck is going on. The rules are literally finished as well. Dave was at Salute and blithely telling everybody what their rules, their stats and their options were.

>>96227789

You get him and 2 guys who pump your command dice numbers up and he's pretty lore accurate.

>>96241892
huh, neat.
Not good, but neat.
Predictable shitfuckery when the entire reporting structure has
>posted reason for ban
>real reason for ban
built into it.

>>96241892
>le ebin shaerk threads
Just bought one of those and I unironically think the Shaerk is pretty cool and plan on using it in OPR.

>>96241461
Remember when some dude hacked into 4chan as an admin 2-3 months ago and started releasing all the privat info (as well as un-locking /qa/)?
He posted a bunch of janny info online including emails and chat logs, letting us know a bunch of stuff.
It was on the S o y jak Party, but i have no idea how to view archival posts on that site, if there even is an archive

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>>96241606
>>96241717
Thanks for the suggestions, but can you two elaborate a bit on it? I googled and no one really covers Objectives. I get there are Strategies and Schemes, but that all I was able to find. I don't want to look for the book and read the entire thing just to find out what the Objectives are. Im looking for cool mechanics to steal.

>>96239269
I think OPR's simple rules allowed him to ease into it.
This is a man that get's confused at most of the board games we play. So I know complexity might throw him off.
After just like 15 ish minutes he was picking up most of the rules and even telling me things like "Oh ap 1 so I add +1 to your defense rolls."
That's really huge for him, he usually doesn't get most of the rules of the board games we play.

>>96242725
Both players share once Strategy that's their both trying to accomplish, sometimes asymmetrically as attacker and defender. It's worth up to 5 points. You can score one point a turn with an option to once a game score one more of you do something extra.

At the beginning of the game you also generate 3 "schemes" to choose from which are mini objectives. They are worth 1 point with a optional way to score a second point. The scheme you choose dictates what schemes you can pick from next turn once you complete or abandon it.

I don't remember all the schemes and strategies off the top of my head, but most are not combat focused and tend to instead be about taking actions to create markers in specific locations. One of my favorite schemes is "Make it look like an accident" where you score a point for pushing a specific enemy model off a building, and extra if they are below half health at the end of the turn.