Sunset Saboteur edition

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>News & Reminders
Ancient Tomb, Strip Mine and Magus of the Moon are pre-banned in Historic
Standard and Alchemy rotated on July 29
Edge of Eternities is out
Arena Direct: Edge of Eternities August 8-10; chance to win an Edge of Eternities Collector box
Two new Edge of Eternities Brawl decks now available in the store
EOE Quick Draft will become available August 8
Arena Championship 9 August 9-10
The August Qualifier Play-In is on August 16 for Bo1, August 22 for Bo3, the format is EOE Sealed
The next Arena Open will be with EOE Sealed, on August 16-17
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/announcements-august-4-2025

>Useful Links
https://pastebin.com/QFA0hqaA

>TQ
What formats are you enjoying rn?

alchemychads rule this general

Just came to tell you all that Cori-Steel Cutter is legal in the midweek event.

> What formats are you enjoying rn?
I'm kind of liking standard, playing the old monowhite tokens deck but splashing for Torch the Tower since Lay Down Arms rotated. If it's a Vivi deck with 4 cauldrons I'm fucked but I like it against stuff like Pixie and most people are playing whatever.

>TQ
none

>play commander
>gets removed instantly
>play commander again
>gets removed again
>repeat every brawl match forever
Commander really only works as a casual format with some degree of etiquette, this is dogshit.

>>96259796
I'm ready to cook

>>96259914
>everytime they remove it you go +1
Just keep casting

>>96259925
It costs 2 more everytime, recasting quickly becomes unfeasible and having it removed is a massive tempo loss

>blue deck in non-ranked
Yep that's an instant leave!
I'm just not gonna play with you.

this card is so funny

>stinky br wino found dead, previously living in squalor
>whoa, but look at his alchemy rank on MTGA

>>96259914
your royal treatment?
nvm you got force sacrificed haha

>>96260038
but is it cute

>Playing brawl
>get the same card in my opening hand 4 games in a row
Actually ridiculous how much the "randomness" of this game favors alchemy cards.

>>96260313
sister, brawl has been proven to be rigged years ago

>playing draft
>disconnected
>cant reconnect to server after first relaunch
>relaunch again
>miss a turn
>barely scrape by and still win
can i double dip and get 1500 gemmies from wizards now or not

>play brawl
>ramp
>ramp
>landfall
>ramp
>landfall
>landfall
im so tired of this shit they all play so slowly as well

>>96260347
Yes, send a ticket. They're pretty generous with the refunds on paid events, as long as you're not blatantly scamming they'll probably let you get away with it. Grab a log too, I doubt they even look at them but just having it will make it credible.

>>96260442
>Playing against a mono green shitter
>Mulligan for 2 forms of removal
>Kill his first two mana dorks as they drop
>He ragequits
OR
>Mulligan myself to nothing
>I rage quit
That's pretty much every match against mono green

Someone recommend me a budget deck I can throw together I'm new to arena and I keep getting completely bodied by netdecks and I'm getting kind of bored playing the starter set duel mode so I can get my dailies done

>>96260613
Have you played Jump In? It'll give you a choice of two random halves that you combine to make a deck, there are some decent rares too so it's not bad value when you're starting out. I wouldn't craft any decks, budget or otherwise, unless you're super good on wildcards right now. Meta still hasn't settled yet, people are still figuring things out (especially since vivi/cauldron might get banned).

I haven't played mtg in over 10 years and kind of want to play again so I might start arena because FUCK cardboard at this point. Did this replace modo or is wotc competing with itself? If so what is the difference between arena and modo?

playing netdecks is not fun
it's like sitting in a cuck chair letting some other brewer spend your wildcards just for a quick orgasm (50% winrate in mythic instead of diamond)

>>96260659
arena has alchemy

>>96260665
that's why alchemy is the best format
you have basically nothing to netdeck from

>>96260659
arena is for playing a quick match on the toilet or drafting the latest set
modo is for pretending your one of the 8 people left who actually play vintage

>>96260659
>modo
ancient UI
a lot more manual effort to manage triggers and stuff
has more cards available
has older formats
>arena
has mobile
can be f2p
has digital cards
has a bigger playerbase

Just depends on your preference

>>96260672
i fucking hate alchemy cards
i hate most of the stuff played in all the standard meta decks that is just infinite value machine for 3 mana
alchemy is just twice as much of that

>>96260691
skill issue

>>96260674
Does Arena have every card in it? Or only from sets from its release onwards?

>>96260819
Mostly cards from release onward, but they've added a bunch of older cards too.

>>96260819
original ixalan and onwards with a small handful of older cards

>>96260755
i dont like playing with them thats the problem

>>96260876
stick to baby formats then? there's draft right there

>calling draft the baby format
>when alchemy is the format they put new players in

Back on WG bullshit and another 2-1. Lots of options in the sideboard here, not sure if I made the right cuts. The one loss was to a WU deck with top tier cards and even better draws, so I can't complain. Lumen is great, 2 power crew is nothing, it's practically just anthem. It also gives a use for those warped creatures that would otherwise just be used for the ETBs. Dual sun adepts continue to perform well, any kind of buff makes it very threatening, with burst you can easily surprise lethal through a chump blocker. The wrath plus starforge was a nice out for long games, booster survives too. I think I passed on a few 1 drops that could've been useful with shepherd, but just grabbing lands is still solid. Not sure if I'm imagining things, but people seem to forget relations is an instant, you don't need to cast it early for the vigilance.

thanks chat gpt

>>96259625 (OP)
is there zero match making? What starter deck is the best to use?

https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicArena/comments/1mi0pn6/omniscience_what_happened/

hey look they are talking about me

urzatroon never beating the allegations that all of his opponents are new players playing on mobile

>>96261225
Azorius fliers

>>96261369
maybe ask mommy to buy you a pc

I'm not a new player and I don't play on mobile so I am safe from ever having to play against urzatroon's omni slop piles

>>96261144
the game actually locks out new players out of playing other constructed formats until they get to silver playing alchemy.

>>96261427
based

>>96259914
theres just no reason not to kill commanders especially when so many of them will just win you the game if theyre allowed to stick around for more than 1 turn

If you don't play a kill on sight commander your commander won't be removed 20 times a game.

>play brawl all day
>constantly queue into shit like vivi
>after 500 games finally queue into this commander
>game is actually interesting with some back and forth
>game decides to lock up randomly during this specific match after having no problem all day

>>96261751
If your commander isn't kill on sight why the fuck are you even playing it as a commander?

>>96261751
>play pic related
>no sagas on the field or in hand
>bunch in grave
>opponent instantly kills it
>take a saga back from my graveyard
>opponent concedes
i swear 90% of people in arena just dont read cards at all and move purely on kneejerk reactions

>>96261798
Because I'm a heterosexual

Damn guys, check out my sick commander for non-gays like myself

>>96261737
I mean yeah of course, I'm just saying it's annoying and not very fun by design.

so according to jannies, this >>96261408 >>96261369 >>96260061 is both on topic and not deletion worthy

but a post about the game, talking about the game, with a reddit link (https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicArena/comments/1mi0pn6/omniscience_what_happened/), must be deleted

interesting

the favela child shrieks for attention

off topic
trolling
racism

>>96261833
fuck your crocodile, here's a real game winner

>>96261833
>>96261996
these cards weren't even playable as draft chaff. You'd more likely just run 18 lands than include them.

>>96259625 (OP)
>TQ
Only brawl, as always

Midweek completed in 20 minutes. All 3 opponents were playing starter decks, why are people so lazy they can't just throw something easy together?

>>96262692
Fucked up that i can't buy that llanowar elves art, it doesn't even show up as an unavailable alt in the deckbuilder.
Makes me feel like my account was bricked before i even joined, shitty FOMOslop.

>>96261833
Seethe harder faggot

FREE gold in the store today

>>96263596
half a packie!

Sneaking in a morning run. 2-1 with a pretty strong UG list, the loss was to massacre and then an insane curve. Honestly I should've gone down a few islands, it was mostly G. I'm surprised close encounter and relations are rated so similarly, I'd figure the 1 mana would be way more impactful than the power boost and vigilance. Plus you can pick a warped creature, so it doesn't even run the risk of getting blown out like most bites do. The thawbringers and crashers are a pretty common sight at this point, solid efficient filler for G. I think I've activated biomechan's ability once or twice this set, people just concede at that point if they haven't won already. Pollinator combos with agrarian like all the other tapped abilities, but here you can also use the mana to help pay for the lander.

>>96262745
Why is that? I bought it just the other day

>>96263596
Don't fall for the mental conditioning, do NOT buy

>>96263622
Huh how? When i click on the arrow to show other styles it doesn't show up?

kinda funny doing the midweek madness and beating decks that people spent time building with a bunch of stupid cats and giant growths from the base deck

>>96263814
I dont know what to tell you, it was just there for me. How old is your account?

>>96262745
you gotta check the store pretty much every day since they put up alt arts all the time cycling every day, pretty sure that one was up recently yes

BR Lizards isn't a tier one deck but it's been crushing in Best of One. All the gay lifegain decks get soloed so hard and discard lets you beat the artifact and control decks.

>Laughing Jasper Flint hit my lifegain opponent so much I was going off with lifegain synergies

Wow this guy is insane as a commander.
Why isn't he used more? Mobilize is crazy with him.

>>96264484
I mean the other zurgo deck will certainly play him, but he's not as good as normal zurgo.

>>96264595
>>96264484
and by "other zurgo" I meant isshin, woops

>log in
>buy the free 500 gold
>do three 750 quests
>go 5-0 for 5 wins
the rich get richer

>>96264611
I mean Isshin is great and i run him with this Zurgo, but there's lots of cards that do the same thing as Isshin so doesn't it make more sense to have Zurgo as the commander and Isshin in the 99?

Dubs and ill show yall my weird mishapen cock

>>96264638
all I know is that my friend's isshin deck stomps, if we let him untap with isshin out it's usually game over or close enough. Zurgo doesn't really have the same aura

the BR starter deck is such a mauling.
it just tore my opp's faces off like a chimpanzee doing dailies.

>>96264484
I've seen people use him in that gay ass mobilize tremors deck

>>96264819
The deathtouch raid guy is bad beats

This card feels like it does way too much

>>96265336
timmy trash, gets destroyed in any real format

don't forget to get your free 500 gold from the store

Haven't visited this general in 2 or 3 years. Why'd it move from /vg/? I remember it getting more traffic there.

>>96265586
>it getting more traffic there
nah, it was on life support for a while
can't compete with weebshit and gachas

>>96265589
Maybe I missed the dark ages. I was browsing around ELD, THB, WAR.

>>96265336
>print judge magister gabranth at uncommon
>very next set print reprint him as a rare with vigilance, life gain, and removal stapled on

>>96265597
Yeah that was probably the golden age. Lots of people active due to the general hype around WAR, the pandemic, and the game still being shiny and new.

>>96265522
i'll rather get free 500 gemmies from the alchemy event

>>96265589
i'm sure mt. gag could thrive if it wasn't paid for by the purple hair estradional folks and their masters

remember magic was at its most popular when its demographic was young straight males from 10 to 25. it was all downhill from there and now it clings on to niche demographics to stay alive, cause it poisoned any goodwill it could get. much like this general in general

>remember magic was at its most popular when its demographic was young straight males from 10 to 25
Magic is at its most popular now.

sure thing sis i'm sure all kids at the schoolyard are playing magic

>>96265730
>young straight males from 10 to 25
Up the age to 35 and this is still the games core demographic, probably only 15% of the playerbase are trannies nowadays

>>96265771
>15%
>Im fucking plying
Rent free, they aren't even close to 1% of the general population

>>96265771
you cannot be a core demographic if each product not only doesn't cater to you and your interests but in fact does its best to antagonize you, much like the antagonizing trannies itt

i hope you enjoyed the ff waifus cause we're back to pozzed darkies and will continue until the next ub jap set

>>96265699
let us know when they start offering those in the daily deals

>>96265807
there's already a 400 gemmies for 2k coins sis

they just almost never ever do it

>>96265784
Just going off my local game store and play group, if anything it's higher

>>96265788
Black people in card art antagonizes you?
I'm Black and don't feel antagonized when I see white people in card arts

>>96265859
You say that like those things are equivalent.

>>96265859
no but ugly hags that look like men do

>>96265859
urzatard is a proud brazilian, actually

>>96265867
>>96265876
>>96265878
It's retarded working yourself up into a frenzy over the most minor anti-white shit possible. Like a Black person working themselves up over a "microaggression".

Don't get me wrong, it is antiwhite, but it's inconsequential.

>>96265859
you're arguing with a Brazilian who thinks they/themselves to be white

>>96265878
>>96265883
Was not aware ty for the heads up anons

>>96265881
actually i'm playing the historic constructed event

Is this rich by /mtgag/ standards?

I basically exclusively play UW Lotus in Pioneer and haven't played standard in years.

>>96265932
the only measure that matters is whether you reached day 2 in competition and made money off it

>>96265945
I've never attempted the Day 1/ Day 2 stuff. I have won 2 boxes of MH3 and 2 boxes of Foundations though.

Honestly scared to attempt the real money events they seem much more competitive than the box events.

If i sign up for a box event could one of you carry me on like a discord call or something?
I'm too shit and new to win by myself

>>96265954
pathetic

>>96265994
Limited mostly plays itself, the real skill is in deckbuilding. If you post your pool here ppl including myself will help.
I wouldn't recommend signing up until you're good at EoE limited though.
>>96265998
( ;´꒳`;)

>>96266043
do NOT let urzatroon bully you

Urza tongues my anus

>>96266043
it's sealed to draft netdeckers are almost always btfo cause they can't play for shit without copying a list

>>96265994
EoE sealed is a retarded format and getting 7 wins is basically impossible unless you open retardo good rares.

>>96266058
aka just run black and green and draft sothera

pure skill fr fr

>>96265932
If you just hoard, then no not really. If you've got a sizable collection as well, then yeah.

Apparently calling someone a brazilian is a grave enough insult to get your post deleted and warned for "racism". I will refrain from doing it again.

Not sure if this is a glitch or if I'm missing something here.
1. Opponent was able to recast my Hazoret and put it on his field, giving him Start Your Engines.
2. At this point he has only Hazoret and Trespasser's Curse on the field. As I play creatures, I lose 1 health and he does NOT get Start Your Engines counters.
3. He plays Bastion of Remembrance. When his creatures die I lose 1 hp and he gets an Engines counter. But as my creatures enter he still does not get a new counter.
At first I thought it was maybe that "losing life" doesn't trigger the same way as taking damage, but both cards clearly say opponent loses life yet only one gave him stacks of Engines. Is there something I'm missing here or does Trespasser's Curse have an issue where it doesn't trigger?

>>96267129
You can only get speed once per turn, and only during your turn.
>As I play creatures, I lose 1 health and he does NOT get Start Your Engines counters.
Because it's not his turn
>When his creatures die I lose 1 hp and he gets an Engines counter. But as my creatures enter he still does not get a new counter.
He presumably attacked with a creature and it died, triggering bastion on his turn and thus getting speed. Curse still only triggers on your turn, so he doesn't get speed.

If you flashed in a creature on his turn, curse would trigger and he would get speed. If he blocked with a creature and it died, bastion would trigger on your turn and thus he wouldn't get speed.

>>96267305
it's hilarious that a mechanic called SPEED is slower than toxic etc

It sucks that this game has such lousy social features, sometimes i would like to rematch a random or just have a chat with him.
There's not really any sense of community at all.

>>96267616
Ranked bo1 should have mandatory Open Mic

>>96267616
being allowed to type a twitter long intro phrase when waiting for the match to start would be enough to completely change the meta

>>96267616
Devs in general don't allow any in-game interaction between players anymore because someone might say the n-word or a child might get groomed.

>>96267897
they just don't want to do cause it would require work, time and money and they don't want to spend any of it in this

sister, this garbo has been out for 7 years and stopgaps implemented in beta such as the vault are still around

also according to desolator magic the game's been outsourced (it's known wizards fired the dev team shortly after the beta)

3-0 with UBg again. Quagmire was actually instrumental in a few wins, which was nice. Agrarian on the other hand got cast once and did nothing. Creature count was a bit low here, but the overall quality was pretty good so I'd say it evened out. One game was a mirror match against a dude who pulled two ruptures, that was scary. Fortunately culler, quagmire, gravpack, and the spacecraft all helped play around that. Elegy acolyte is stupid, on of the must remove creatures of the set. Timeline culler is actually great for triggering void, I was tempted to run a decode. Faithful has been used more often to "sac" my own stuff than kill anything, but it's still great and the flexibility is good. Virus beetle helped with that, I should probably take it more highly. The pair of archenemy charms were extremely clutch, I probably should've ran another swamp to make them more reliable. But they were never dead as long as I could actually cast them. Been happy with perigee, I rated it low but it's been useful a few times. I think it'd be better in aggressive decks, it works well for pushing through damage.

I have only two issues with this game.

The first is, it seems less love has been put into it in the last few years. We used to get more than 5 unique animations per set for cards, now we don't get shit. They felt very soulful.

The second is, sometimes my client just crashes and disconnects mid game and it's been happening for over a year now. Have lost a few matches because it happened early in the game when I don't have hourglasses banked.

>>96268373
Both issues are because of mobile

>>96268396
I only play on PC. I think they stopped making the animations long before mobile support too.

>>96268406
Nah, mobile was start of 2021. They stopped doing big animations in like Zendikar/Kaldheim, around that same time. I remember people complaining about how Koma was unplayable on mobile because it kept crashing the game.

>>96268441
Feels like the obvious solution was to disable animations on mobile or at least not make them default instead of eliminating animations altogether.

>>96268441
bad at coding?? no worries just code less!! and keep the prices the same

>>96268457
Oh yeah, no argument there. People had been asking for an option to disable animations for ages.

New player. Is the current Jump In worth the coins to get the cards?
What are the best packets I should look up to if yes?

>>96268979
https://mtgabuddy.com/en/jump-in-packet-list
All the packet lists are here. I don't know off the top of my head if the current ones are good enough value, but generally they are. You can cross reference with aggregators like aetherhub or mtggoldfish to see which cards you should be fishing for.

got bored with the mono blue enchantments, wanted to play with deepfathom echo, built this, still in d3 but having more fun. not pictured: 4 demolition field. any thoughts comments or ideas? sami's curiosity is ideal for UG, instant speed ramp.

>>96268979
No. Just buy packs.

>>96269051
>sorcery
>instant speed ramp
?
Just run elves instead

>>96269076
the elves die to removal. and maybe you don't understand, one mana is trivial, the important thing is keeping mana open for counterspells, the lander token allows you to keep mana open on turn 2 and still have 4 lands on turn 3 whether or not they have a torch the tower.

A nice 3-0 to cap off the night. Rares aplenty in this BGr list, vestige and hivepool won several games, including one poor guy who got hit with both. Vestige being LTB instead of dies is stupid, they could've made it work some other way for warp. Beckoners were actually pretty good in these games, it keeps going up in my esteem. Slapping it on crawler is pretty decent, and getting buffed up to 5/5 by warden was actually relevant one game. Warden is alright, being an artifact is more of a downside for G, and a 4/4 vigilance for 4 is fine but dying to depressurize and seedship impact as a 4 drop with no ETB feels pretty bad. The splash wasn't great but I needed lands for colossus, Tannuk got to draw a card once in the run I think. I'm not sure what it is about thawbringer that people keep underestimating. They seem to hate trading stuff like wayfarer or stinger to it, and just eat a ton of damage to wait for a smaller creature to block with. With a bunch of big warp creatures, I wish I had more spacecraft in this one. I feel like the cheaper ships are more reliable as bodies even if they're weaker, since you're probably dropping your warps early to be able to play the actual creature on curve. Otherwise, crewing with potential attackers/blockers is somewhat of a gamble.

Deviated from G a few times these few runs, and did pretty well without it. Two of the trophies were a UB core, somewhat of a surprise since I hadn't played UB at all in the days prior. Similar deal with BG. I feel like the card quality in those runs contributed more to that than the strength of those colors, but still. People are possibly gunning a little too hard for G, I think there's plenty of opportunity to do well in other colors. Still yet to play UR or RW, and I haven't been impressed by most of the ones I've played against. Maybe if the right cards get passed it'll happen, but I don't think the commons/uncommons there will justify it. One thing I'm thankful for is that the bonus sheet this set is mostly unimpactful, some manlands are very strong and there's a few outliers but for the most part they haven't been an issue. Very grateful for that, especially since they're lands and difficult to interact with. Been a slower set than usual because I've been busy IRL, but I think I should still be able to finish up tomorrow or the day after unless I hit a catastrophic losing streak. I think I'm actually a bit ahead on my usual rate in terms of runs because of the extra renewal packs and cards. Also raredrafted a bunch these past few runs, that certainly doesn't hurt.

EOE day 5-7 results:
Three 3-0, three 2-1, for a record of 15-3
Spent 9,000 gems and won back 10,500 for a net gain of +1,500 gems
Won 27 packs, value of 5,400 gems
Trophied three times, for 1,200 gems
I'm at 111 rares now, up 34 from last time, roughly 6,800 gems
In total, up 14,900 gems of value in these couple days.

this deck smashed
the red station land is ridiculous if you get it online

1. all fake pics aka ZERO screenshots of the supposed runs, just some garbage draft lists
2. ANYONE can spend money to buy gemmies and use them to get 90 packs and then pretend they were earned
3. DO NOT fall for these tactics
4. THANK you not replying EVEN once to these blatant baits

urza however shows his stuff, cause he aint no fake

>>96269226
congrats on all the gems.
I've been struggling to break even, has been one of my worst formats in years.
every draft is either GU or GR and it's usually mediocre

usa v japan art

Uh oh, are people drafting on /mtgag/?
Stop, you'll trigger it.

>>96269059
>>96268979
Why are you purposely giving the new player bad advice?

Buying packs is a SCAM. Save your currency only to draft, buy the mastery pass with gems once you reach near the end. Never enter Jump In events. Just farm 750 gold challenges and save up for drafts. Save all your packs to open near the end of the set so you don't draft duplicates.

dishonest and loaded "advice"

>>96269226
I exclusively play Premier draft and go 6-7 wins often (in gold/plat) and was thinking of getting into Traditional.
Would you say it's more difficult? Seems like the avg player to prefer traditional would be much higher skilled.

>>96269570
What's wrong with my advice, be specific.

you make way more with constructed (alchemy) challenges

ce 5.2k te 4.8k > qd 2.7k pd 3.4k td 4.1k

1 pack = 200 gemmies
play-in event entrance = 4000 gemmies or 20 play-in tokens (20k gold too if all you can do is drool and need someone to change your diapers)
1 play-in token = 200 gemmies

2500 gold = 1 constructed event (CE), reward 500 gemmies and 3 packs plus 1 play-in token
/ 1100 gemmies in net total plus 200 gemmies from play-in token for 1300 gemmies gross profit

5000 gold = 1 traditional constructed event (TE), reward 1000 gemmies and 3 packs plus 4 play-in tokens
/ 1600 gemmies in net total plus 800 gemmies from play-in tokens for 2400 gemmies gross profit

5000 gold = 1 quick draft (QD), "reward" 950 gemmies and 2 packs
/ 1350 gemmies in net total profit

10000 gold = 1 premier draft (PD), reward 2200 gemmies and 6 packs
/ 3400 gemmies in net total profit

10000 gold = 1 traditional draft (TD), reward 2500 gemmies and 6 packs plus 2 play-in tokens
/ 3700 gemmies in net total plus 400 gemmies from play-in tokens for 4100 gemmies gross profit

total rewards for 10k gold spent:
4 constructed events = 2000 gemmies and 12 packs plus 4 play-in tokens
/ 4400 gemmies in net total plus 800 gemmies from play-in tokens for 5200 gemmies gross profit

2 traditional constructed events = 2000 gemmies and 6 packs plus 8 play-in tokens
/ 3200 gemmies in net total plus 1600 gemmies from play-in tokens for 4800 gemmies gross profit

2 quick drafts = 1900 gemmies and 4 packs
/ 2700 gemmies in net total 'profit' plus nothing (clowned on)

1 premier draft = 2200 gemmies and 6 packs
/ 3400 gemmies in net total profit plus nothing

1 traditional draft = 2500 gemmies and 6 packs plus 2 play-in tokens
/ 3700 gemmies in total plus 400 gemmies from play-in tokens for 4100 gemmies gross profit

CONSTRUCTED EVENTS ARE THE BEST WAY TO ACQUIRE GEMS AND PACKS

TRADITIONAL CONSTRUCTED EVENTS ARE THE BEST WAY TO ACQUIRE PLAY-IN TOKENS

yeah, just ignore that draft and sealed let you keep the cards. Don't attempt to convert that to any kind of pack value.

>alchemy
sorry, I'd rather not play with cards that can't exist in paper

Why does every retard in brawl need like a minute to decide if they'll keep their hand

>>96269699
If you're rare drafting, you aren't winning. Especially in this gross ass EoE format where you need perfect synergy and curve to trophy and also need to hope you draw your bomb ass rare and/or your opponent fails to draw his. If you draft smartly, then you already have all the cards you'll want after like 3 drafts. Getting a couple percent added to your vault and occasionally getting a new rare or two if it fits your deck is definitely not worth it. Draft until you are like 70% of the set, then constructed (but not alchemy lmao, that's gay as fuck).

>>96269634
But standard sucks and alchemy is puke. Draft is fun

What if they allowed you to buy wildcards with gems

Why draft Edge of Nigternity when Tarkir quickdraft is up rn?

>>96270164
>why draft a mediocre draft format when a terrible one is available?
anon asking the hard hitting questions

>never crafted cori when it was legal
>crafted just before the bans
>use cori to easily farm daily wins in midweek magic

what a disgusting fucking card. and to think someone supposedly more knowledgeable like jim davis defended this shit.

>>96270346
jim davis is a giga retard

>guy initiates an infinite combo that makes all of his timers run out
>instead of making him lose the game eventually decides to give us a draw
Very cool design.

>>96269395
back to back 7 wins
only get to play Gruul

>>96269572
once you hit Platinum/Diamond Traditional is probably easier, because it's unranked (especially if you know how to build Limited sideboards)
you'll queue into 1 noob every run so you're essentially spotted a free win
the problem is that the EV is notably worse than Premier. you lose a chunk of your entrance fee for going 2-1 (and all of it on 1-2s)

>>96270702
I tried this after getting diamond in FF and it didn't work out for me. 8 runs went 3-0 twice, 1-2 twice and 2-1 4 times. pretty big punt of resources.

If Numot had any hair he'd be malding over how much he hates the EoE draft format.

>>96270931
He's right though. This set feels like you need to pull the best cards for your colors to even stand a chance and then there is like 9 different things you can do in a turn sometimes if you misorder one thing you just lose the game.

>>96270931
>>96270967
and then your opponent just plays an "i win" card like hivepool or endstone or just randomly top decks the 1 wrath in their deck when you are finally winning

>>96269498
>not just ethnic diversity, but UGLY ethnics for diversity
The underlying difference is that one is captured by an ideology that hates beauty and the other is not (yet).
This is "Queerness"(philosophical sense) - the ideology of arbitrary opposition to anything normative or centered as a matter of principle. To the "Queer" mind, all norms of any kind must be subverted or destroyed simply because they are norms. In theory this includes the norms of Queerness itself, but in practice that rarely happens.

So tell your friends "The Queers are the enemy of civilization". They will assume you mean homosexuals and call you a schizo.
lmao

>>96268979
if you are an actual noob, then it can definitely be a decent option, for a few simple reasons. first of all, for the price of a regular pack, you're getting 20-something cards instead of the regular 8 you'd get in a regular pack. another reason is that since the packs are pre-set, albeit with some variance, you can somewhat control what you're pulling, and there's a decent amount of them that have meta staples in them, so you should look at what rares/mythics you can get from each pack.
here's a pro tip: if you do the final fantasy jump in and try to go for the green packs, you'll be able to build a decent meta deck pretty quickly, which is the green landfall deck. most of the staples for that deck can be found in those packs, so you can get yourself a decent deck to climb with pretty quickly.

overt coomerbait fanservice is worse than ugly women on cards.

>>96271246
The core of the problems stems from them pretending that the ugly women are the coomerbait.
You belong on the cross either way.

why does wizards hate LD?

>>96271246
You'd have to be a castrated eunuch or a bitter jealous hag to actually believe this.

Cavern of Souls is good right now because there's a ton of UW and UB control on ladder. I love the pausing when I play it out and they realize they have 3 no more lies in hand

>>96270931
watch better drafters

>>96271347
Once you have sex in real life cartoons just don't have the same appeal. You'll get it one day.

>>96271398
this literally happened 2 minutes after I posted this

>OH NO NO NO NO

>>96271414
TheHam isn't online

>>96271421
what appeal do ugly woman have, though?

>the ugly moids in a magic thread think they can judge any women

kek, thanks for the laugh

>>96271421
this anon is correct

>>96271440
There is no appeal, but they aren't distracting either. If you've been out in public, real life before and aren't a virgin loser then ugly woman are just normal people. Most woman are ugly and easy to ignore. It doesn't distract from the game at all to have ugly woman card art.

>21 triggers on the stack
it's wombo combo time

>>96271440
Do you also want to fuck the animals on the cards?

>>96271465
I want to look at things that are pleasant to look at

>>96271465
>Most woman are ugly
most women are average-looking. ugly means unpleasant to look at. that isn't most people unless you're a narcissist.

>>96271503
>can only understand aesthetic appeal through the lens of sexual attraction
you're the one whose brain is fucked, not me

>>96271626
Sorry I should have clarified that I am American.

>>96271632
Okay.
>what appeal do things I don't like have
You have autism. Have sex you loser faggot.

>>96271656
>>what appeal do things I don't like have
you said it yourself that they have no appeal. why should they be making art with no appeal, when their goal is sell the cards using said art?
>Have sex you loser faggot
you're the one who's getting "distracted" by drawings of women and yet you tell others to have sex. the projection is insane.

I want cards with hot bitches in them, I'm not sure which ones are offending you.

>>96269457
UG and RG are pretty strong colors, though nowadays more people have access to the data so you're probably fighting more people over them. Personally, I think EOE has been one of the more piloting oriented sets of recent years, which is partly why it's been divisive. The other part is that there are bombs but at lower levels than most other sets. Synergy is king, and that means it's harder to put together a good deck just by looking at ratings and lists.

>>96269572
Trad is higher risk/reward for sure. Other anon is correct on all points, the EV is lower unless your win rate is unreasonably high, but you'll get fed some free wins so that helps. Generally speaking, if your main concern is going infinite, premier is a safer bet. The difference in opponent skill level will vary greatly, which is part of the swingy nature. There are definitely some absolute shitters playing Trad, I'm guessing because they have ranked anxiety and think unranked will be easier (it's not).

>>96271465
Oh just shut up idiot. Everyone likes cute anime waifus better than dumpy nignog “woman.” This is just the excuses you construct in your mind for why you let your bitchy wife dictate your political opinions.

hahaha opponent topdeck the set's wrath of god to save him from an unwinnable board state and then I topdeck'd 5 lands in a row
epic

>>96271421
>>96271465
I'm in a nice relationship with a cute girl and you're definitely wrong, i think this talking point was invented by permavirgins who imagine sex to be this grand spectacle that would change their entire life.

I wish this game had something like Master Duel's Glossy/Royal Rares.
Opening packs isn't really exciting when you can craft everything, the only thing that's really nice to pull is a mythic wild card here and there. It'd be nice if richfags or luckchads could bling their decks out.

Very smooth hand, thank you MTGA "Hand Smoothing Technology"

>>96272197
You can, there's a million styles in the store at any given time. Also the bonus sheets often have special art that you can pull from sets that have them, like EOE does with the lands.

>>96272259
Yeah but they're not rare, anyone can get them relatively easily.
What i mean is that it would be fun if there was RNG involved, it feels way more exciting to open packs or craft cards in MD because of the chance to get royal rares.
Yes i have a digital gambling addiction.

>>96272273
>Yes i have a digital gambling addiction.
I read the first line and a half and was about to ask. I don't think anyone else ever asks for more RNG in packs, they're already a rip off as they are.

>>96272273
they should remove wildcards entirely and force you to open all the cards you want yourself, or pay actual money for wildcards if you really need to craft

>>96272205
You wanted mana, there it is

>>96272205
sovl

fucking retards honestly

>I have full kona, omni, planet, empath combo in hand and a counterspell
>opponent casts a non-lethal slickshot showoff from emberheart trigger
>he has 2 mana open after casting it
I used a dispelling exhale but purposefully didn't reveal a marang in hand, let him fully tap out by paying the {2}, and he does
when I combo off he discards 3 lightning strikes lmao
there's a reason these guys are #250+ I guess

if your opponent casts a mana leak effect when you have the mana open to pay for it, its a fucking trap

how are you guys liking the current TRAVIS SCOTT format?

>>96272481
Sometimes you just gotta make them have it

>>96272354
Dollars shouldn't be accepted to buy them, only organs.

>>96272537
Sometimes you gotta make them feel it

>>96271730
>he thinks everyone he talks to is the same person
Autism

What are some of the best new commanders from eoe? I need something to do.

>>96272831
Sliver overlord is a massive asshole

>>96260665
I do not have the time and mental energy to spend brewing decks all fucking day that 90% of will not be good enough to overcome going 2-2 at my local event. Would rather just get good at a deck that exists. Used to brew when i started and it was very satisfying when things worked but it just took all my thoughts

>>96272893
>i HATE THINKING
>i want to get back to getting my dopamine from the rigged shuffler and my dailies

>>96272923
Get back in the brewing mines slave--and make something good so I can netdeck it and win store credit.

>>96272923
>I play a game that I know is rigged
Very smart

how do people reach mythic but not know how the cards in their deck work

Can someone give me some braindead green list for standard with tifa and the mossborn hydra pls?
I just wanna get to plat for the rewards and have those cards already.

>>96273067
56 forest
4 rope

>>96273049
Are you under the impression that reaching mythic requires a brain?

SISTERS

if i taught you how to mod cards would you mod out the ugly men-looking hags for cute anime girls and post them here, to make the hag defenders seethe cope and dilate?

if so, i will consider, but first we need a list of the ugliest "female" cards around

i would also like to remind everyone that this thing is momir as a card

is the game down for anyone else?

>>96273128
Anyone that cares will just follow the same reddit tutorial you used.

>>96273473
if you don't promote it, no one will find out

especially since the retards there voted it down cause they piggies

i could make an yt video teaching how to do it step by step but since this community is made up of mostly ungrateful mental eunuchs and castrated cucks who love defending capitalism and buying the new bing bing wahoo, i say fuck'em

>>96273344
Works fine for me

>>96273247
Giving aristocrats the ability to destroy any non-land permanent at instant speed was fucking retarded, especially when its basically impossible to interact with

opponent has a infestation sage, an umbral zealot and a syr vondyke. Anything you do, they can simply sac the sage + token, sac the dyke, untap and raise the past

>>96273597
Do you not have google down there? It takes five seconds to find it.

>>96273621
i'm sure it's very viewed and popular given the upvote count

>>96273634
How the fuck is that relevant? Google doesn't operate on upvotes. Do you search for things by browsing reddit's top threads? Anyone with half a brain can look up "mtg arena custom art mod" or something along those lines and see it, it's not rocket science.

Ezzz

>>96273711
like i always said

>>96271246
here i made you a magic card

no need to thank me you are most welcome

>>96273820
rent free

>>96273616
No they can't becaus they play like 2 lands and a half in their whole deck so they can't never get to raise the past mana without freebooters.

The problem with EOE draft is that a lot of the mechanics are very snowballg, so you end up with a non-game if one person has a slightly sub optimal draw.

>>96273928
draft is always like that though

>>96273928
make a better curve and learn when to mull even if you're good on lands

>>96274459
I've been number one mythic in limited several times, you are an idiot. A lot of top drafters are down on this format

>>96274678
>A lot of top drafters are down on this format
name 3

>>96274747
Paul Cheon (also often ranked in top mythic all the time), LSV, and Numot. It's not a bad format, just mediocre and snowbally. Green is a lot stronger than everything else although other colors are all playable. Final Fantasy was a much better format

>>96271106
meds NOW

Unfortunate 1-2 to start the day, deck was on the weaker side but also I got screwed on lands both games in my last match. WB really wants a reliable sac outlet, it's night and day for games where they have a zealot and ones where they don't, really wish I had gotten one or two here. Lots of luminaries, which were pretty solid. The curve was pretty fucked though, way too many on 2. The alt art land is celestial colonnade, which was quite good and worth the slot imo. That and boosters saved me one game against a wrath, which was nice. Considered running starwinder, but double pips is a lot and I didn't have much fixing. Love nutrient as fodder, though this deck wasn't short on that anyway.

>>96275095
whats the maindeck blue splash for?

>>96275242
Colonnade

Back on old reliable WG with a 3-0. Not much new to talk about here, just play dudes on curve and swing in. Somehow got 5 fungal colossi and tried to see if they could work, ended up not running any. Ran strip mine one game to punish a 3c deck, was funny. Pollinator and curiosity MVPs for ramping up to 4 and getting crashers out asap to hit face. Focus fire and burst also useful to make opponents scared to block.

>>96272205
This Hisashi guy needs to make more cards

Meme UB deck to finish the set. Only went 1-2, though that's expected. Lots of artifacts, way too many spacecraft. Surprisingly ran out of gas a couple times late game, somehow. Relics are top notch synergy, they work well with basically anything artifact related. Fodder for selfcraft, bodies for labship, mana rocks for mm'menon, etc. Nanoform can also be used as shitty ramp when you've got a station out, which came in handy one game for getting two pips of B. Almost no removal here until the big spacecraft, so that's obviously no good. The deck did pop off one game though, which was fun to see. I think if I had some big warp creatures like beckoner or mechanozoa it might've even been decent. Not matching against aggro would've helped too.

>My opponent has 2 prowess creatures on field and a plotted slickshot? what could possibly go wrong! I better attack with my only creature to secure the health advantage!
The irony in him trying to protect his creature giving me the chance to use flood maw to get a final prowess trigger to kill him

Final EOE results:
Eight 3-0 runs, fifteen 2-1 runs, three 1-2 runs, for a total of 57-21
Spent 39,000 gems on entry fees, won back 35,750 gems for a net loss of -3,250 gems
Eight trophies is 16 play in points, or 3,200 gems
Got 20 rare and 7 mythic wc from opening packs.

That's EOE done (plus some extra wildcards) in about a week, for basically no gems spent. 20ish packs from the pass will fill out the rest of the set.

>>96275840
>-50 gemmies
oh no no, draftsisters its over

And just this once, for the schizos. I'm sure you'll find new ways to cope about it.

>>96275865
wouldn't you have had more fun if you did 200 alchemy events to complete a set instead of 25 drafts? doesn't playing alchemy all day every day like it's a job sound more appealing?

No whats best is to take some screenshots and buy 20k gems for 100usd and pretend you earned

Just like you pretenraratd you 4ykrs<made it to day 2 in the last 3 years

No whats best is to fake some screenshots and buy 20k gems for 100usd and pretend you earned

Just like you preten you made it to day 2 in the last 3 years

>>96275903
Damn, you're right. I should actually be slaving away to earn gems so I can pay rent.

>>96274791
Paul and Numotthenummy are content creator shitters, if they're top drafters then so am I lmao
I am down on this format though so maybe you have a point. The games feel so fucking random.
FF was an incredible format so obviously nothing could follow it up well.

>>96276155
While not as decorated, they both have played competitively and done well and playing every draft set for several years is obviously going to make you a good magic player. Being a content creator doesn't somehow make you worse, especially if your content is just stream content.

>>96276290
after a certain point (once you're good at the game yourself) you should be watching the best of the best instead of settling for merely "good magic players" because they are accessible content creators.

>>96276327
...such as?

>>96276337
Urza

>>96269051
some small changes, took out pilgrimage and schooner, -1 spelunker, -1 primal might
+1 mindspring merfolk
+2 syncopate
+1 auroral procession
and it is doing a lot better. auroral procession is a very strong card, might even want two of them.

>>96276402
link to her stream?

>>96276327
>>96276155
Paul is a genuine top level player that used to play on the pro tour and test with top pros. Then he worked at Wizards. Even if you think nummy is bad, he's nott, Paul definitely isn't

>>96276402
dropped your trip

I only watch ashlizzle because shes a cut girl and i want to cum inside her idc about anything else gimme ashlizzles FEET

>>96276327
>he watches youtubers to get better at video games
kwab

>>96275264
>colon aids

I wish arena wasn't rigged, I just want to get real draws for better or worse, same with my opponent

>>96278176
Wish granted, it is no longer rigged.

>>96275865
I can tell it's shooped because of the pixels

Holy shit I actually got the combo, the oppo was holding up depressurize, but he targeted my codecracker hound like an idiot after I targeted it with my first perigee. I was shitting myself when I saw him throw it down, but won from his misplay

>>96278329
nice, I was trying to get this multiple times but never had all the pieces

>>96278329
Rinse repeat

>>96278329
>>96278400
>>96278340
And on my first trophy of the set, I almost got it a third time. They depressurized the voidborn, but then couldn't win against the value of getting 2 4/5s on the field for 4 mana. Too bad it was QD

>>96278176
It has been within statistical expectations since 2020, you're just mad at the game of MTG itself for being flawed because lands are a bad mechanic.

>>96278484
Lands are fine its the insane powercreep wall of text triggers everywhere is a bad mechanic. The game died with lorwyn and planeswalkers.

>>96278520
His comment was about the shuffler being rigged (not true), which most often would manifest itself in mana screw or mana flood.
Of course the game has other issues but that's not too related to the topic.

>>96278484
>There's no way a billion dollar company would lie to me for a fourth time!

>>96278523
Dont sass me or ill fuck your mouth with my weiner again

>>96277514
If ashlizzle had a lizard tail shed be the perfect girl i just want her to step on my balls and fart on my commander deck so bad bros. Piss in my dinner please!

>>96278688
People did literal studies on this sample sizes in the millions, in 2019 the guy who did one of these concluded that the shuffler was flawed and then in 2020 edited his post with an update that it's now within statistical expecation.
Nothing to do with anything wotc said.

>>96278964
I did my own studies and its fucking rigged ive tracked a bunch of games from all over the place

>>96275840
What cards are people looking for? The only constructed format I play is Standard and I don't feel I have 20 drafts of this in me. I already have all the shocklands, so there's Cosmogrand Zenith (have 3), Consult the Star Charts (have 4) and maybe like Quantum Riddler (have 2)? I'm not a Tezzeret believer, planets look about as real as I expected, I doubt Archenemy's Charm is ever my jam. Ouroboroid? I don't know, I think I'm running it to plat each month until the next thing releases.

>>96279119
Pretty much the ones you listed. Maybe the station lands if kona combo sticks around. I'm personally a fan of pinnacle emissary, but it's not for standard.

I feel my gameplay has been pretty good but I was worried about my drafting and this is the second time I feel I have drafted something quite more powerful than what my oppoenents had. Unsure about the last card, decided on Starport Security over the second drone because of the Shepherd. The deck played really well, faced a lot of green blue splashy decks and Rayblade Troopers were great at letting me keep pressure on board, forcing trades and allowing me to use my removal on things I really wanted to remove or to punish some slow plays. The game I lost it was 11 lands to 5.

>>96279327
Now that I see you talk pinnacle I've remembered Pinnacle Starcage (1 copy). Not sure how good it is in the current meta but it's a card that will probably matter at some point.

>>96279352
seems a little like trolling to put in scrapbot instead of beamsaw but I'm glad you got there

>>96279361
It's the replacement for temporary lockdown, it'll probably see some play. I doubt they'll be cutting down on hyper aggro cards for another few years at least.

Instead of buying the next set i think im gonna invest in a dragon dildo and cram as far up my ass as i can. Should be better than standard.

Based mmr tanker https://mtga.untapped.gg/profile/988d403f-0558-4def-be32-5fe158c43a5d/FGWXO4GL4BAVFMU2X6Q74G4SDI/deck/d463aeb7-6735-4094-913f-16fdbbc568b0?timeFrame=current_season&constructedType=ranked

>>96279754
excuse me while I snap consneed 180 times in a row

>>96279366
Is it? I don't know, maybe I'm wrong I'm just kind of a boomer that's been betrayed enough times by death triggers and I probably like the scrapbot too much. But in this deck I think I prefer the second dockworker over the beamsaw if you want to go there.

>>96279352
I think I would've gone down to 16 lands with that curve, and run dockworker or crawler.

>>96279352
bro you have 161k gems, it doesn't matter if you're complete ass at draft

>>96279607
>invest
Sad and pathetic.

>>96279352
>>96279366
Scrapbot is an auto-include in any deck. It's a colorless Galactic Wayfarer, and GW is the best common. Your deck should definitely have the other Dockworker Drone in it, especially with 3 reyblade troopers. It is better than a land or Virus Beetle number 4 (the 5 drop guy makes it so you can cut a land, your curve is low too)

>>96279953
you say its a colorless GW, I say its a 3 mana beamsaw.

>>96279984
It triggering when it comes into play makes it a lot better than beamsaw. It would be worse than it is if there were more ping effects or x1 creatures but this format isn't really like that. On 17 lands beamsaw is about 55% game in hand win rate and scrapbot is 57%

>>96279869
>>96279953
> 16 lands
I definitely considered that, I did the typical
> Let's reevaluate after a couple of games
Then completely forgot about it. I talked myself out of it because while I didn't mind 16 lands I hated the idea of 8 plains or 7 swamps I would go for it with a terramorphic or a scoured barrens. Also crawler was a card I really wanted to play because I felt this kind of deck was its only possible home but I couldn't justify it.

>>96279880
Drafting is how those gems got there but feeling strange this format.

>>96279984
Your opponent can choose to not trade with beamsaw, a lander on turn 8 is way worse than a lander on turn 4. I think anon had enough sac and buff effects to make beamsaw work well, but scrapbot is the better card.

>>96280100
How'd you draft 160k gems?

>>96281171
With mommys xredit card

Then you pretend you wouldn't have to be playing 24/7 to do such a thing and that its better than playing constructed events cause you're a coping shill pig in denial

>>96281199
You forgot your trip, cachorro

>>96279903
Its a quality product and the company continues to innovate in its field. Of dildos.

>>96265945
i cashed a Legacy GP 10 years ago. does that count?

>>96265998
>namefag
>calling others pathetic
Peak irony

>>96261876
Have you tried to play a real format?

7-0 with mono B
just had a 7-0 but it's nice to get one without green

>>96281171
Drafting up to platinum and stopping around there, the first month after a release I'll usually go higher if I'm looking for cards then not spending on packs or artstyles. I've played opens like 3 times but I don't play them if I don't feel I have an edge. Winrate is around 63% in general and the only constructed format I play is Standard which also makes managing shards kind of easy.

tl;dr Play up to plat, don't buy cosmetics or packs, in some months it may surprise you where you are.

>>96282356
That's not monoblack, that's a mixed race deck, look closely.

>>96265932
I think the second you don't make complaints like
> Give me one good reason why they can't give out free packs, they're so greedy.
You're already mount gag rich. My personal opinion is that assuming that's F2P you're close enough to infinite to be able to chill forever. The one issue is if completing every set is important to you, I know it's not for me.

>>96282621
hell yeah.
playing Arena just to draft new set releases for the first couple weeks they're out is by far the best thing to do with the client

What's it mean when your opponent spams Good Game like 5 times before turn one starts, that they think they have the game sewn up based on their opening hand or that they think you'll win based on the matchup? This happened to me in Brawl, a Loot deck player did this against my General Kreat deck then I wiped the floor with him by turn5, him only getting Ojer Kaslem out before I overran him for lethal

Every day I am thankful that Arena's draft payout structure isn't even half as jewish as Hearthstone's. 4 win average to go soft infinite instead of 6 so is huge.

>>96282771
I have no idea but I think there's also people that will spam you to say they've already lost and it's a way to cope with that. If it's before turn 1 much easier that's the case if he's mulliganed.

>>96282786
didn't know Hearthstone even had draft.
I do wish the Traditional Draft payout structure was as good as Premier, would be nice to play bo3.
Losing 500 gems for going 2-1 is kind of lame.
It used to be better.

>>96282832
>didn't know Hearthstone even had draft.
it does but its done a bit differently. And the literal only thing it has going for it in terms of value is that hearthstone players are dogshit ass at the game and averaging 6+ wins is actually possible.

My internet provider gave me access to an AI that costs 50 bucks a month but I get a year for free to test it. I've tried to use it for work a couple of times. I ask it to write code, it's horrible and I spend more time guiding it and fixing it when it can't understand than it would cost me to write it myself. I've asked it about some stuff I'm interested in and it constantly hallucinates shit, it's extremely untrustworthy. I ask it to draw some lines on an image here and there and make this part green then I desist after ten minutes. Anyways, I saw Fabiolo talk up the alchemy events so I said hey let's use AI to compare alchemy and draft payouts. It's tricky because it's not direct to translate a pack to gems or gold and alchemy gives a play point for 7 wins but I thought maybe it could say at this winrate the value of a play point and a pack should be this much for things to be equal. So I go check the payouts and entry fees, spend some time triple checking I got them right and ask the AI. This piece of shit checks reddit and mtg arena zone and informs me that authoritative sources say that to go infinite you need 68–71% for Premier draft, ~70–75% for Alchemy, ~75% for Quick Draft. So I say hey stupid slut I'll break your knees, I don't want you to use sources, I expect you to do calculations that's why I spent time searching to feed you the exact numbers. And it fucking breaks. I can do this with a spreadsheet but it's going to take me like 30 minutes - 1 hour so not today. I'll do it but next week and I'll compare it with working at McDonalds because sometimes people talk about it like an actual grindjob, the experience itself is supposed to be fun and I think people sometimes forget it in these conversations. Also, neural networks are great but bearish as fuck on this LLM chatbot shit, if it takes away your job, they're going to have to hire 5 seniors to fix everything the holy love of the machine breaks and then they're going to beg you to come back.

>>96282356
UR draw 7s
drew my entire deck 9 games in a row, shit took forever
at least the 7(wins)s are coming consecutively now too

>>96283353
I had weftwalking once and it was so much fun. If you're not playing against blue you know you can trade trade trade and eventually draw 7 is going to get you out, if you're playing against blue it can get interesting because you really don't want it countered so sometimes you have to ask yourself how much value you're fine giving up now that your opponent has tapped out.

I will save my gemmies for the ATLA box event. Surely those will be good EV

>>96283554
if every UB box is $1000+ like FF these events are going to be such free money, save them gems

I've seen complaints about spacecraft but I think it's been OK in limited, there are good ones, mid ones, circumstancial ones and terrible ones. My biggest issue I have with them is the rares being disappointing, same with planets. But this WR mechanic is so fucking awful.

Remember Survivor? An absolute banger. What if we made a mechanic that rewarded you for having 2 creatures survive and you got the reward in your end step instead of your second main phase just because? We'll even make a permanent type that lets you tap your guys without getting into combat so you can die faster. What's the reward you say? Think about this, a +1/+1 counter. Sounds cool with cheap fliers and cheap pump, OK, let's just make those not exist. But wait, there's this uncommon that is a lifelinker and it gives T W O +1/+1 counters yeah I know crazy right probably have to make it cost a bunch. Well the signpost gets to make a full body, a 2/2, what is this, Grave Titan? We don't want to scare people let's make the 2/2 be a tapped body and let's be really cautious with the stats of this creature, OK send it.

In b4 lies about Gene Pollinator.

>>96283554
>>96283576
I'm mad I was busy the FIN weekends, I hoped I could be there for the open but then we never got one.

Whlith this gold and wild cards, what deck should I craft if I like midrange/value oriented decks? Don't have very many cards, just some mono black discard and sultai graveyard stuff.

>>96283914
Define a bit more what you mean by midrange/value oriented. There are these Vivi decks that I think fit that description but I have a feeling that's not what you want. Tell me decks/cards you've enjoyed.

>>96283942
I started playing MtG with Commander, playing Muldrotha the Gravetide. Loved the ability to always have stuff to play. On Arena I built SaffronOlives Goyf deck:
>https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-54-16-rare-goyf-beans-standard
and liked the play pattern.

After that built a mono black discard deck with the Talent, Sheoldred, and Hopeless Nightmare. I liked how wins were always grindfests. Don't like aggro decks like mono red mouse because it feels frustrating to run out of steam. Don't like combo because winning the exact same way would get boring. In the previous rotation, I probably would have loved playing Overlords/Zur.

>>96283982
I know you don't but I assume you have infinite uncommons and commons since those are the easier ones to replace and eventually become valueless.

The 1st deck I would recommend more, the Ketramoses are hard to replace but if you don't have Archmage's Charm you can play some other removal, you don't have the coverups, play other wraths, if you don't have 4 unholy annex, maybe craft 2 and see if you own some other rares that let you draw extra cards each turn. Crafting 1 of rares may be OK if you like to play commander stuff. The mana I wouldn't worry too much about, play some common/uncommon dual taplands and basics, forget about the soulstone sanctuaries, see if you like that style and if you really like it start getting the lands. Also you're going to be playing Bo1 right? See if some sideboard cards can fill holes from the cards you don't own. Maybe the swaps are nonfunctional but something to thing about and save some shards.

The second one is more like a graveyardy thing, there are some combos that basically end the game on the spot but in the end it's a grindy value deck, hoping you have some lands from that GB deck although I'm seeing he only has Llanowar Wastes which just rotated. Not blaming you, it's just there are probably smartest crafts for a budget audience, not sure why he did that.

Also, just remembered, you probably want to craft some Starting Towns, maybe 2-3? Just have them in every deck like your fable passages. Other lands are likely better but these are more global.

>>96284122
Nice dubs. These two decks do look pretty fun to play. I have Phyrexian arena for Annex swap, malicious eclipse for Cover-up, have 1x Clarion Conqueror, 2x shoot the sheriff, 1x Shadowy Backstreet, 2x soulstone sanctuary, 1x intimidation tactics,
I've heard a lot of things about Ketramose being fairly strong, I'll have to give it a whirl.

As for my 57K gold, what would be the best use of it? Drafting has the highest reward ceiling I suppose, but anything else that would be decent for building a general collection fit for this newly rotated standard?

>queue up a draft
>3 games straight of going second to opponent curving out with cheap aggro flier creatures and tempo spells while I get fucked on land
absolutely livid

>>96283554
>>96283576
You shouldn't always bet on that, UB sets have flopped before. FF was an outlier even by UB standards.

>>96283695
I will not tolerate pollinator slander, I won a game of a dude not realizing I could block with and tap down agrarian to make and activate a lander for the landfall.

>>96284391
>he hasn't achieved draftchad zen
lol, lmao even

>>96284453
nah I'm yelling at my monitor every loss, it's shameful
I don't lose much so I just can't get used to it

People have caught on that Green is the best color in EOE draft but they keep passing me Green Sun's Zenith late in the pack. It's insane

I love this art style btw, it's one of the best they have ever made

>>96284496
I never saw a single one passed to or played against me, over dozens of runs. Fuck you (respectfully).

>Draft
>Lose a game by drawing 10 lands out of 15 cards
>Lose another by drawing 2 lands out of 11
Fuck that shit.

>>96284519
I honestly don't know why. I haven't checked it on 17 lands but it has to be one of the best rares in the set. Ramp on turn 2 to get Gene Pollinator, fetches all the 4 and 5 drops midgame, can get a bomb to finish your opponent....often in the same game

FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING COCKSUCKERS FUCK YOU PIECE OF SHIT MANA FUCKING ME FOR AN ENTIRE RUN

>>96284472
Half the battle to git gud at draft is not tilting out of your mind when the universe conspires to fuck you over, it ain't easy.

>>96284551
For green, third best Game in Hand Winrate, 13th for Improvement in Hand. Sample size is really low, 834, I start trusting things at like 5K. Personally higher than I expected but I'm very wary of tutors in general.

>>96284623
Green Sun's Zenith is not a tutor in the way that a black card that lets you search for something and put it into your hand is. You are putting any green creature from your deck into play with a mana tax of 1. So it lets you get whatever you need at most point's in the game if you have a reasonable mix of green creatures in your deck. Green Sun's Zenith is one of the best green cards ever printed

>>96284496
agreed on the art, sucker for movie poster style and this one is the best of em

Sidenote, is it worth it to invest in ALL types of draft or are the premier the only one worth the payback?

>>96284643
To add to this, if there was a card that was one black search your library for a card and put it into your hand then it would be gigabusted too. Demonic Tutor is 2 mana which is way worse in limited but it’s still gigabroken in constructed. GSZ is only okay because it’s limited to green creatures so it’s less combo oriented (but still used to combo). The difference between 1 and 2 mana is vast even if it doesn’t feel like it, that’s double the cost. A “fair cost” is probably 4, which makes it bad in limited

>>96284358
> As for my 57K gold, what would be the best use of it?
If you're dead set on not playing limited my short answer is I just don't know what's better. But since last time I checked the payouts I can't endorse anything that isn't drafting or learning how to draft. Don't rush it, do like one a week, aim for whatever rank you feel is achievable by the end of the month, remember that getting one metal (?) higher means one extra pack and the way pips work up to plat is kind of a freeroll because on gold you lose one pip on a loss but earn two on a win. Allegedly, competition should be easier the later in the month you are. If packs have the slightest amount of value to you mastery pass is worth getting and you should be getting 2 cards a week on those events on tuesday, the smaller your collection the likelier you are to get new cards.

>>96284358
Jump In is decent, though I think since the golden pack change it's a bit worse now, relatively speaking.

>>96284739
premier draft EV is a much better return than the others, you only have to go 4-3 to get your money back.
good source of gems whenever you're gold rank or under in limited.

>>96284409
the bulk of my gem stash is from Zendikar rising. I've been holding onto them for this long I'll keep holding until the time is right. I would have dumped them during FIN collector box but I reinstalled the game after not playing for 6 months while the event was running and didn't have time to derust or properly evaluate the EV of the event before it was over. If ATLA collector boxes are over $800 I'll go for it.

>>96284898
thanks desu

>>96284739
Premier is the best way to do it. Trad if you're some godly player, or if you just want to convert gems to cards asap. Quick is the worst of both worlds, you should treat it as practice mode.

>>96284917
>>96284912

claim your EOE-fu

>>96284937
good choice

Sshhh. Don't distract her. She's searching for my socks after putting them in the washing machine.

Just realized this set has the same abbreviation as End of Evangelion. By the way, I would buy the shit out of UB Evangelion with like Asuka, Durchsetzungsstark Ace and Rei, Bland Doormat.

>>96284472
>I don't lose much
Doubt

>>96284766
>>96284891
Gotcha, I probably use wildcards to build this Ketra deck to scratch my pack opening itch, and will start learning draft otherwise. Thanks

golbez is pretty fun

>>96262226
Dowser was 100% playable in draft.

>5000 gold = 1 quick draft (QD), "reward" 950 gemmies and 2 packs
/ 1350 gemmies in net total profit
Im the new guy who asked about draft.
Isnt the total reward like 9 packs (plus any extras you lucky out)? Plus all the cards from the draft itself.
Ever at like 1 win it appears to have more rewards, collection-wise, than just buying packs for example.
I only did two quick drafts so far, went 1-3 and 0-3 (got an extra pack in the second one, yay?).

>>96288463
It depends a lot on how much you rare draft, if you're greedy then you might pick up a ton but your deck will likely be shit. Or you might tryhard and go 7-x but not get many rares. Or worst case, you tryhard but don't do well, and you've basically blown a bunch of gems for nothing.

>>96288766
>>96288766
>>96288766
new

>>96284937

>>96288463
>Isnt the total reward like 9 packs
No. It's 2 at best (if you get 7 wins)

>>96288709
Makes sense
>>96288808
I see, the rewards are not cumulative then, you get it depending on your final rate.