Golden Throne Diorama Depiction Edition

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>Previous Thread:
>>96267581

>thread question:
What is your LGS like?

>>96271389 (OP)
>TQ
Quite pleasant. People and staff are friendly. Makes me worried that I will be the one that screws up, spergs out and ruins the reputation of the place. So I don't go to the LGS that much.

>>96271389 (OP)
>TQ
I just wish there was one in my town ;_;

>>96271389 (OP)
>all LGS's aren't so L
50 minutes to one, 80 minutes to the next one, and 140 minutes to the last one available

Hello everyone, I love Mk IV Boxnaughts

>>96271428
Man you people must live in the fuckin boonies man

>TQ
I've lied to them about living far away for years to avoid being asked to join whatever league shit they have when in reality it's a 10 minute drive from my house

Post your latest kitbash

>>96271389 (OP)
They're all kind of bad. My buddies and I all play at each other's houses.

>>96271446

>>96271446
>>96271452
how many fucking times will you post this

>>96271434
I don't.

>>96271451
>They're all kind of bad
Got any stories?
>inb4 this didn't happen trolls come in

>>96271452
You should paint it before you post this again.

>>96271389 (OP)
>What is your LGS like?
Only one in the region is a GW store that is way too small but the manager is the kindest redshirt you'll ever meet.

>>96271457
Twice now
Post something of yours instead

>>96271459
No stories. Its just more fun hanging out with your friends in an environment where you don't have to police what you say, there's plenty of seating, you can put what you want on the T.V., there's plenty of beer and chips. Its just a lot more /comfy/.

>>96271458
damn that’s crazy.
wanna fuck?

>>96271473
Why did you post it more than once if it's not even finished

>>96271484
In a fight, right?

>>96271435
America is approximently 75 englands big.
>according to google

>>96271484
The kid won't have strong feelings about dreads one way or the other

>>96271446
I posted it once before, but I did this big Cawl replacement recently. I just repaired the candles (the flame had snapped off while I was handling him to paint him) on his back the other day, but haven't taken final pics yet. I'll do a full spin on a turntable too.

>>96271389 (OP)
Best in the city, and it's not even close. I can either walk there (about a half hour walk) or hop on the bus to get there in about 15 minutes. The store is solid, and the whole basement is tables with piles of terrain, plus whole painted armies that players have donated if people want to borrow some and play a game. They have an apocalypse event where they push all the tables together a couple times a year too, I've never attended but I stumbled in one time when it was happening and was very impressed. Prices are a little steep relative to Amazon, so I try to mix purchases there in when I can, but if I shopped exclusively there I'd have spent a couple hundred more dollars by now I think.

>>96271434
>Mk IV Boxnaughts
there are different boxnought mks?
anyone have an infographic for that or regular marine mks?

>>96271389 (OP)
TQ. Great. Sadly it's a tournament heavy shop so everyone wants to play those sterile rules with abysmal terrain setups.

Why wouldn't they have just made this for WE it's so simple and already established

>>96271446
right in time for draigo to get lost in the warp
at least paladins are good now

>>96271389 (OP)
>TQ
My lgs got shut down because the owner was a gay jewish pedophile

>>96271484
No, I'm not greek.

Reminder that whenever you think the rules and factions are half assed, Leila Stache Stubbles here is a GW game designer. And he can't even be bothered to not half ass being a woman.
>Also lmao, "Death Guard sisters, how do we respond?"

>>96271536
You have got to be kidding me lmao

>>96271523
>Why wouldn't they have just made this for WE
Because it will be Horus Heresy exclusive.

>>96271536
NHH

>>96271510
Another since it's hard to show him off from a single angle. I struggle to kitbash such that my models have a golden angle like GW usually aims for.

>>96271536
Explains a lot.

new jak' just dropped

>>96271389 (OP)
>TQ

Constantly get shafted for TCG events, it was semi understandable when the store had less space but they expanded into the floor above the store and that's also just used to get larger tcg events. When you order directly from the store they sometimes just won't order despite saying they did, and if something actually arrives after 5 weeks they'll just put it on the shelf without telling you or complain that you went somewhere else for it. Tournaments sometimes only get posted a week in advance

>>96271536
>JD Vance but shaved

>>96271552
Very cool
>>96271525
Nice i always like true scale grey knight conversions. I have the newest terminator librarian im gonna use for one

>>96271536
Kill Team sisters, our response?

>>96271560
>true scale grey knight conversions
I'm just using a lil bit of greenstuff to elongate the torso. it's simple but seems to work decently well on like half the terminator leg styles so far
I wish the termie librarian had a GK-style hood instead of the nested one

>>96271514
For sure Anon I’ll drop some pages from the original Imperial Armour when Mk IVs became a thing

>>96271579

>>96271587

>>96271536
No reason to believe me but I once played KT one table over from this dude. The stubble is worse in real life. It was near the end of a tournament and the 5 o'clock shadow hit hard. Also for what it's worth he's on the kt rules team and it seems to be doing better than 40k

>TQ
>move to different state
>new LGS is a small group
>potential warhammer matches are a choice between 100% tournament mode with no chill or political brain rot
i want to fucking die, bros.

>>96271622
This is real

>>96271639
>This is real
Well yeah, his post is right there on your screen.

>>96271552
Legit good jorb anon. He looks dope

>>96271554
I like the vibe of this image. Probably still not gonna start a Squat army though.

>>96271514
There's marks for everything. Ones I know we have models for:
Land Raider Phobos MkII (updated Epic one), IIb (FW redesign of the II for 40k), III (classic 40k LR with sponsons at the front) and V (sponsons at the rear).
Rhino IIc (basic plastic Rhino).
Predator MkIIIc (2e predator), IVb (basic 40k Predator), IVc (FW conversion with a boxier turret and slightly different sponsons).

>>96271554
>beyond chicked basedjaks came out it 2020
>Deathwatch Overkill was released in 2016

>have two models left before I’m done with my Space Marine infantry
What a strange feeling. I suppose I should start looking for vehicles now….

>>96271510
>>96271552
Shit's rad. Good job on this model.
The mechanical arms fit very nicely with the Cawl model legs.

>>96271662
You need to be 18 to post here

Any advice on how to paint more of a 4th to 5th edition vibe? I find most of the paint jobs for modern 40k is a bit too saturated and colorful and I prefer the darker tones of yesteryear. Anything I could do to aid this?

>>96271677
>Anything I could do to aid this?
Use darker colors.

>>96271677
I’m sure if you can find old codexes/boxes from that era they’ll have the paints they used for them.

I'm pretty happy with the new votann book

>>96271677
Who are you kidding

>looking up advice for obtaining the right vehicles for Space Marines
>”Just steal them from Hersey, the kits are newer,”
Very amusing lmao

Any of our Model posters professional fighters?

>>96271639
>>96271647
i swear to christ this town is like a twilight zone episode where people only act in stereotypes

>>96271677
Get a bit of sprue, treat it like a model (even make a stick figure if you want) and prime it gray. Just gray.

Add in a small bit of black to every bit of paint to add the tone of oldtimes. You'll get how much once you see why.

>>96271774
This is real

>>96271780
>>96271639
dis iz a clanka

>>96271446
>>96271452
Cute servo skull
ignore the /v/ermin throwing a tantrum, they hate seeing actual hobbyists

>>96271434
I like boxnaughts as well and I haven’t quite gotten into newnaughts. But I also feel like most primaris look like football (American football) players rather than gothofuturistic knights.

>>96271771
Why would you ever assume there would be crossover

>>96271543
just like scarab occult terminators and deathshroud terminators right bro?

>>96271560
>>96271667
Thanks y'all, I appreciate the kind words.

>>96271652
Thanks, coach

So everyone always says that there are no good guys in 40k, and to stop trying to think of it the framework of good vs evil, and instead look at it as humanity's struggle for survival. This makes sense, and mostly holds true.

However, the more you learn about the lore and the history of the setting, it becomes increasingly apparent that most bad things in the galaxy are the fault of chaos. We're told that there are no good guys or bad guys, but then they write a setting in which there actually is a malicious faction who's long term goal is the rape and then devouring of every human soul. These things conflict.

Another thing you start to notice the more you learn is that much of the Imperium's evil is the direct result of chaos. They are brutal, because they are beset on all sides by aggressors. They mistreat their own citizens, because chaos takes root when people are cushy. They're zealots who kill everyone who is not their religion, because chaos is the main alternative religion. When you're nice to people and allow other faiths or lifestyles to flourish, chaos takes advantage of that and uses your leniency as a vector to attack you. Every time you list one of the Imperium's sins that makes them bad guys, there's always the second half of the situation, which is how chaos made them do those things and made them that way, and how all of them are a defense mechanism against chao's aggression.

Another interesting tidbit is that humanity was a representative republic with flourishing intelligentsia, before they were attacked by chaos. The Emperor was brutal and genocidal....after he saw the future of what happens to humanity at the hands of it's enemies if they aren't that way.

I just think it's interesting that the community has collectively agreed to just repeat "there are no good guys" over and over, yet the setting itself clearly has an evil antagonist faction that starts every conflict and has an end goal that is the complete destruction of humanity.

>>96271836
there's no good or evil in war

>>96271836
I'm not reading all that

>>96271771
I have never been in a fight my entire life

>>96271771
I am yeh. Why?
Tbh only on regional scene and did one pro fight, so nothing big.

Buri is pretty cool

>>96271446
>>96271452
LOOK GUYS HE POSTED IT AGAIN FOR (YOU) FARMING

>>96271889
That's quite based

>>96271918
Why did they make Uthar so lame in comparison

>>96271840
>4chan links are not banned
NSFW articles and violence, disclaimer
>this one is about a dead child
https://i.4cdn.org/k/1754583843435137.png
>this one is fellow soldier treatment(bad)
https://i.4cdn.org/k/1754582980989580.webm
>don't click this if you care about doctors, police and in general; civilian lives(no visible gore)
https://i.4cdn.org/k/1754584451564392.webm

You act like you're immune or that it doesn't matter, but in reality you painting gore and rolling dice just proves you're a sideliner.

>>96271552
What paint is that on the brass / copper parts? I see it all the time but still dont know what it is. Nice job btw

>>96271771
lol no. I wrestled and did taekwondo as a youngun, but I haven’t had to fight anyone since 2013 when I got jumped in Scarborough for wearing the wrong colour of t-shirt. I didn’t win.

>>96271836
Actually good argument anon. I do have fascistic tendencies, so I'm probably biased, but this makes sense to me.

>>96271622
>go to lgs for casual games
>every plays some meta cringe bullshit
>forces everyone else to do the same

My faction doesn't really have a meta but its tiring seeing the same bullshit over and over again. Also too many greytide armies

>>96271945
>sallyanon is a leaf

Based

>>96271955
Rent out your airbrush to them after showing them how to use it. At least tell them to prime and basecoat.

>>96271446
Shore
>>96271771
Professional? No
I do casual HEMA and ACL somewhat regularly though

>>96271955
Seems like you're a nogames paintfag

How do you feel about the new lore that this is im fact not the Emperor but just decoration hiding his real body?
Also how do you feel about Custodes being genetically loyal and obedient to him?

>>96271836
Chaos was created by mortals and are slaves to the forces that created. They can't go against their own nature anymore than fire cannot stop burning, no matter how much personality and individuality you give it.
>When you're nice to people and allow other faiths or lifestyles to flourish, chaos takes advantage of that
Unless you're Tau, who get away with it because of reasons.

>>96272004
that's not new lore

>>96271976
I am so mad Onslaught is not available in Europe, I am NOT paying 120€ for those 9 fucking marines.

>>96271966
This was already known information.

>>96271976
O&T.

>>96272004
It's be nice to hear their reasoning for making all this as a fake when nobody's ever going to see it anyway. The furthest any mortal gets to the Emperor without personally being requested, is the Eternity Gate.

>>96271955
You should use the LGS to scope out like minded, normal people then build a friend/play group around it.

>>96272009
>that's not new lore
Do cite the old lore then.

>>96272030
Custodes are allowed to see him in the flesh, in the secret chamber behind the throne room.

>>96272012
Buy a recast then. Ivan, Mykola or Chang will help you

>>96271941
I use Brass Scorpion. I've experimented with other paints but none so far have given me that same rich brass color I've gotten used to.

>>96271536
The eyebrows are making me laugh Like something the Rock used to do. You sure though? I've known women who looked that catastrophic.

>>96272044
I don't like working with resin and recast look like shit.
This isn't the 90s anymore grandpa.

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96271836
That's the point anon- in any other world or setting a regime as brutal and oppressive as the Imperium would absolutely be considered the antagonist, but because the alternative in the setting is a bunch of baby eating rape orgy cultists they're the de facto protagonist. That's the grimdark nature of the setting... there really aren't any good guys left because the 'good guys' threw human decency out the window ages ago for the sake of survival and have since devolved into engaging in bizarre & harmful ritualistic practices themselves because the only competent adult leading them turned into a skeleton, leaving them as a bunch of idiot children lord of the fliesing it up. The best protagonist to root for is a villain in any other situation and has no real hope of returning to decency ever again... that's why shit's fucked no matter what.

>>96272031
I do now, I just look for the most chill people and play against them. I usually get my ass kicked but I'd rather play against them then someone who has the ability to suck every ounce of fun out of the game

>>96272042
Again, what's purpose does the throne room serve then, when like one person in a millennium gets to go there and rest of the time people are either visiting the Eternity Gate or his "real" seat?

>>96272064
That's not enough, you gotta befriend them and build your pwn group.
This will lead to them chill out with the meta chasing and play for fun.

>>96271771
I was semi-pro but my jaw went.

>>96272070
Are you doubting the Emperors design heretic?

Anyone going to LSO this weekend want a bj? We set up a glory hole last time and it was pretty fun

>>96272053
>recast look like shit.
based retard

>>96272026
yep

>>96272089
Do you work for the GW kill team design team, by any chance?

>>96272087
I doubting BL's ass pull retcons.

>>96272089
I have decided that I do not to believe this

>>96272030
I always figured this was all ceremonial and they’d have video feeds of it during holidays or whatever equivalent of Sunday mass like what the Pope does irl.

>>96272099
it's not a retcon, the guy who drew the original picture of the emperor rotting on the throne even stated that's not the real emperor or throne over 20 years ago

>>96272110
>it's not a retcon
It's an unnecessary detail and piece of information that makes the setting lamer and gayer.

>>96272119
>goalposts shifted
just admit you only know about the setting through youtube shorts already

>>96272053
>This isn't the 90s
Thats why recasters produce well quality plastic models

>>96271937
They even removed his iconic special rule

This whole votann codex just absolutely screams "everything old is bad now, buy the new things". Pretty much every wave 1 unit ate heavy nerfs

>>96272110
>t.

>>96272128
they don't do plastic still

What's the last time you played TTS 40K?

>>96271771
I did in mma in high-school but not for a very very long time

>>96272129
>GSC has access to a bunch anti-tank S12 weapons in the form of demo-charges and mining lasers
>release a new anti-tank character with S12 attack
>previous S12 weapons are now S9 & S10
bravo James

>>96272137
Never, it kinda looks like a pain in the ass to set up

>>96272128
No they don't lol

>>96271976
Kino

>>96272123
I'm not the same guy retard.

>>96272155
so you're just another uninformed retard and that's supposed to matter?

>>96272161
>uhm uninformed
I've known about that the pictures about the Emperor on his throne are fake for years.
The entire idea is still lame and gay and just makes the setting worse by existing.

>>96272110
Of course the rotting Emperor is not the real Emperor, because that art was an edited version of this original piece of the true Emperor on the Golden Throne.

>>96272137
Never, 40k is actually not fun or a good game, I only enjoy hanging out with people and building/painting.
There is literally zero reason to play it instead of an actual video game.

>>96272063
Not OP but I think in the old lore before Gulliman came back they basically accidentally made 1/3 of all imperial characters Spengler's centurions so it had this 'heroic but tragic' element to it. But then they had a guy eat a baby to balance it out.

>>96272161
For someone so "informed" you truly have trouble providing actual sourced beyond "trust me, bro" and "you're stupid if you don't know this one neat trick from 20 years ago that's only relevant now, because of reasons".

>>96272182
>spoonfeed me!!!
lol

>>96272144
Eh not really, you have a table preset that sorts most of it for you, easy point cp map zone and objective tracking and saving and loading armies and seeing stats on models https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2716384879&searchtext=ftc
use yellowscribe for stats and saving armies https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2920625970&searchtext= and there are various other things on worshop related to 40K

>>96272182
NTA but google john blanch golden throne real and you'll find it
here's an interview from years ago with abnett saying the same thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VchkiTUisu8

>>96272188
I accept your concession.

>>96271389 (OP)
is there links for some files I can print out for terrain?

>>96272188
Never change Majorkill stans

>>96272107
No worries, just steer clear of the bathrooms by the conference rooms behind the elevator

Reminder that imperial fists are losers and eat shit ( literally)

Throne, i love being an Iron hand

>>96272137
I've played a couple my biggest problem with it is everyone seems to run a real competitive tourneyfag list and most people use the shitty ruin maps where everything is mirrored. It's fun with friends who can't make it to meet up for a game though if you make your own maps.

>>96272227
>Iron Hands

You don't rank in the top twenty things us Bananachads think about.

>>96272227
>Reminder that imperial fists are losers and eat shit
Why do you need to remind people of something that is common knowledge?

>>96272004
Im confused by it honestly, nu-lore states that the emperor is in a hidden room behind the throne but then why when guilliman went to visit papa emp he kneeled before the " fake" throne and not go to the secret chamber?

>>96272255
its always fun to dab on the fist losers

>>96272252
i love how one of the latest novels showed how insecure custodes are that one was thinking about some le epic reddit speech he would tell guilliman and then never did when guilliman was actually there.

>>96272266
>nu-lore states that the emperor is in a hidden room
not nu-lore

>>96271976
Wheres the skull shoulderpad from

>>96272208
>I'm not the shorts watching zoomer YOU are
kill yourself

>>96272227
>Puts their own guy in dreadnought
It was funnier than that. After flushing the previous occupant like an aborted fetus, they tried interring their own guy into the sarcophagus. Except that didn't work. He was too far gone. So they murdered a venerable dreadnought pilot for nothing. And they just shrug their shoulders about it and move on.

>>96272298
nu-astaroth
got one real cheap off a friend when the box launched and used him as bits fodder

>>96272227
I keep forgetting Iron Hands even exit.
They should've just been completely obliterated during the Heresy, maybe that would've given them some flavor and memorability.

>>96272199
>20 years ago
>all interviews are only a few years old
Blanche said he didn't mean the art to represent the Emperor, just a fake to which pilgrims come to visit, thinking it's the real Emperor. But pilgrims do not get to see even a fake Emperor. The luckiest pilgrims get to the Eternity Gate and no further. People don't enter the Inner Sanctum and see the Emperor, fake or not. Blanche draws stuff, he doesn't write the fluff. He might have intended the painting to represent something completely different, but GW used it in a different way.

>>96271976
I was asking chatgpt for some suggestions on a color scheme and this came up, this fucking thread broke me

Why are y'all so obsessed with Avatar? You know it doesn't have anything to do with warhammer right? It's kinda weird bro...

>>96272314
It's their color scheme.

We can keep remembering the other chapters with their base color but not them.

>>96272289
>posts no proof
Opinion disregarded.

>>96272319
Lmao

>>96272266
I thought he went to the real throne, as he saw the emperor as something unrecognizable.

>>96272314
> seething fist loser

ork idiot here.
How do I counter infernus marine spam at lower point games? Do I use deff dreads or killa kans?

>>96272341
who the FUCK is spamming INFERNUS MARINES

>>96272322
Raven Guard are black too and way more memorable, in fact iconic.
Iron Hands just don't do anything really.
Do they even have any successors?

>>96272361
Knights of Byzantine

>>96272335
Sorry but I'm a Blood Angel.
You know, one of the relevant factions.

>>96272371
Hell yea dude, how do these others losers cope?

>Raven Guard
>Deathwatch
>Black Templars
>Iron Hands
so many black and white color scheme factions but only one is forgettable and it's not even the one whose meant to go unnoticed

>>96272314
This model alone immediately makes Iron Hands better than Imperial Frauds.

>>96272359
Considering they're in Leviathan, the un-associated Combat Patrol, and the bulk of every version of beginner set, I imagine many players have a lot of them going around and are using what they have for <2k games.

>>96272385

>>96272361
>Do they even have any successors?
Very few on record. And those few don't have a ton written about them, but some of what's there is alright.

>>96272371
I'm sure you're enjoying these fantastic new models :^)

>>96272385
when are strongfat space marines going to be added

>>96272385
>>96272385
ah yes the chat gpt chapter.
only good for one thing, drawing felin fiction.

>>96272335
I don't mean to be rude but Imperial Fists have feuds with other chapters and traitor legions already and the irrelevant hands aren't one of them. Go pick one with a chapter more on your level of relevancy like the white scars.

>>96272361
Brazen Claws
Iron Fists
Iron Lords
Knights of Byzantium
Red Talons
Sons of Medusa

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/766zpeqi/anatomy-of-an-oathband-how-graf01-organises-the-leagues-of-votann/

Am I retarded, or is this article essentially saying that the LoV base their society on a centuries-old document literally called "Graph01". If so, that's the funniest shit and I unironically love LoV now. This means that they're essentially all following the guidance of an ancient corporate org chart, which has suffered so much scope creep that a single document has inflated to contain all kinds of unrelated info. They're not just capitalist dwarves in space, they're a full-on parody of modern corporations. Their Votannic Councils are those meetings where way too many people get invited and everyone talks forever about stupid shit that won't change anything and all the important decisions will be made later, because the meeting didn't get anything useful done.

>>96271554
Fuk thos squat robos are the dumbest looking thing gw has shit out. And that's saying something.

>>96272289
The Emprah sits on a throne in a tomb built around him.
His location is entirely known to those that need to, yet illimitably labyrinthed around. Thus if you do not possess the knowledge of how to find him, with perfect clarity into the traps, guards, and all other manner of ever evolving security parameters that gate entreaty into his inner sanctum, you will never know his exact position again even if you have been there before.
Source: Because I said so.

>>96271622
Sounds like you're a retard that can't get others to play at retard level. My advice? Get gud, chump.

>>96272411
you know for a fucking fact there's a bunch of ancient and VERY IMPORTANT texts all named "untitled" and a big ass number

>>96272074
Sounds fuckin gay anon

>>96271955
>not dominating the scene with superior tactics and slapping greyfaggits with -10vp
>My faction doesn't really have a meta
Oh, sorry didn't know you where stupid.

>>96272137
I haven't yet but I'd like to, I dont get enough games in so it would be good to be able to practice on it

>>96272432
This is PRECISELY the vibe I'm getting from this. The LoV are running their whole operation based on a random document with a useless title. Just wait til they find "Gräf01_FINÄL" in a folder somewhere.

>>96272321
>y'all

>>96272008
Or any of the other 100's of minor factions in 40k and heresy. Pure cope from chaos-wankers. Especially because 30k malcador already stated the emperor worship also bolsters chaos gods.

>>96272319
well I did get the scheme by deciding I wanted dark orange as my main and then looking at a color wheel to find a complimentary as a secondary lmao

>>96272461
>untitled(2).txt
>untitled(3).txt
>untitled(3)_copy.txt
>untitled(3)_copy(1).txt
>untitled(4).txt
>untitled(1)_copy.txt

>>96272341
Charge a trukk in, hit them with a fuck tonne of rokkits, run in a massive 20 boyz squad during waaagh and be prepared to use ard as nails for the overwatch

>>96272394
I'm sure you're enjoying your no new models outside of a single pity character :^)

>>96272044
Give me a line on Chang. My guy Zackgames died and I need eldar superheavies.

>>96272449
>casual
> -10 vp

Anon...

Who is this unbelievably annoying fuckin poster ITT? Seems to always be active around this time of day / night, just shits up the thread with the most abhorrent posts. Very easy to spot

>>96272476
Can't use ard as nails during your own movement phase, only during the fight phase or the opponent shooting phase

>>96271389 (OP)
GMM studios is one of the highest paid artists out there. The dude was clearing 100k/yr back in 2010 when I met him as a kid. An insanely talented guy. He already painted 100+ armies at that point

>>96272496
Whoops. Well just hit them with rokkits or lootas, they can't save all of those shots now can they. Or just tank shock with a trukk for the fuck of it

glossnidanon here,

The traitor guard begins. Doing basecoats now

>>96272341
You either charge from behind a wall, or you charge them with something else first to lock them down. Also you might just have to eat an overwatch, but they can only do it once a turn

>>96272137
Never, always been on a table irl where I have to see my opponent face to face.

>>96272409
>brazen claws
>sons of medusa
Holy fuck literally MOGGED by their own successors

>>96272394
I am not and there's no need for low blows like these

>>96272341
I baited a sally player a while ago with a different unit, he decided to overwatch with his aggressors for some reason. Then I advanced warboss + nobz right in front of his infernus squad. I remember him just saying ohh FUCK and then I wiped most of them out except that character that was attached to the unit, the other vulkan

>>96272536
>Running aggressors

What a fucking idiot. One of the worst units for sallies at the minute. For the same cost you can take an impulsor and 5 infernus marines for double the durability. Sure you lose out on overwatch a bit but that’s not the end of the world

>>96272227
>>96272307
Iron Hands are just traitors.

>>96272538
He was running 2 squads of 3 and only ran infantry. I mean it was a fun list but they should've come from reserve, walking those things up the table is just painful to watch

>>96272385
Lysander's model is cooler.

>>96272411
Honestly I've been wondering if any of the other names in the article are what happens if you type "Excel" or "Powerpoint" etc into google translate and pick a random language.

>>96272566
not at all, easily the worst of the characters shown off

What is the best grug army?

>>96272552
Aggressors are just plain bad for what they do. I have a lot of luck with the aforementioned impulsors backed by 3 squads of eradicators and bladeguard with Adrax and an Lt. I save my overwatches for the land raider if it’s still alive or my eradicators when my opponent tries to push up something big. Can’t overwatch with firing deck so the only time my infernus use it is if the transport got popped and they somehow survive till the next turn.

>>96272341
Charge Kommandos at them.

>>96272576
Blood angel jump pack spam or Weaters. You make all your charges or you die.

>>96272487
>every plays some meta cringe bullshit
Again, stop being limp-wristed doorknob licker and start dominating greyfaggots until they comply. But it's probably to much to expect from someone who doesn't even know the basics of their own army.

>>96272574
No, not really.

>>96272550
That's fine. So long as you don't stick your dick in Chaos it's perfectly moral to dick over the Imperium.

>>96272576
World Eaters, run and smash, that's it

>>96272621
he's LITERALLY just a generic captain with hammer and shield

>>96272479
Sry, but I use Ivan bc i dont need a titans. You can try wartablegames, i heard than they have good resin titans and superheavies for these price

>>96272640
And that's why he is cool.

>>96272479
Mirandareen

How common is it to play with the bottom floor of ruins being LoS blocking? Our play group just found out you can deny charges/fighting through ruins if you leave a enough of a gap to net get engaged.

Our DG player is flipping his shit because his fat blightlords can't make it through ruins now.

>>96272667
"no"

>>96271389 (OP)
>TQ
the fucking AC broke and now you can only sit in your own sweaty puddle while getting olfactoric assaults from the miasma of stink and it's thin veneer of cheap deodorant. they expanded about two months ago and half of the store ist still empty. it sucks but the next best store is another half hour away. I hate it here

>>96272688
So cool that you need to mimic Dorn to make a post.

>>96272676
Thanks I'll check it out. No way I'm paying GW prices for warlocks. I miss you my chinaman ;_;

>>96272686
It's pretty standard yeah

>>96271771
I don't consider myself professional but I'm a semi regular sparing partner for my buddy who's a regional boxer

>>96272614
You're very mad anon, you need to play some games and calm down

So Votann are now in the Tau and Tyranid position of eating shit for three editions because of one overpowered codex, aren't they?

Who the fuck looked at Votann and thought "Their units need to be more fragile."

>>96272686
My group played with it since ruins felt a bit pointless due to windows all the way back in 5th.

The whole blocking by leaving just enough room not to reach we honestly haven't used. Again because we got melee armies running around that would be massively nerfed by a none fluffy game mechanic.

Then I again, I do find the idea of telling your DG to "Go around you fat fuck" kinda funny.

>>96272686
Yeah that's legit, I think if you leave a one inch gap in between the wall and your units they charge you or some shit

Dreadnoughting to page 10! Nobody can stop me!

>>96272735
What Is that orange model? Khwrussy?

>>96272731
Nope, my anger is the source of my ability to crush you jabronnies. Get friends or get gud. Your lack of talent is no one else's responsibility.

>>96272676
Can one use PayPal for this site? Keeps giving me errors. I wanna a 3rd party between me and these websites.

>>96272778
Just give your credit card info anon, no one would make an illegal copy of something to resell

So the three parts of 40k seems to be modeling, lore, and the game itself. 40k fans usually have one of these things, sometimes two, and sometimes all three. Someone might be a gamer but not very artistic, and that's ok. Someone might be a reader who has all the books but they're not much of a gamer. Someone might have an extensive collection of well painted models, but they're never touched a d6 in their life. It's just a cool thing that I like about this hobby, lots of people with different interests all coming together.

>>96272569
I'm at work but I'll have to reread the article later to see

>>96272792
Modeling > Gaming > Lore
But in all seriousness it's cool to have all these aspects.

>>96272790
Maan, these guys want bank transfers.

>>96272792
I know dudes that are way into the lore but haven't touched the hobby, I don't take their opinions seriously.
I know dudes that play the game but only on tts or with commissioned models, I don't take their opinions seriously.
I know dudes that paint models but don't play the game, and I take their opinions seriously.
Modeling and painting is a necessary element in engaging with the hobby/setting.

>>96272732
cry some more and git fucking gud

>>96271579
>>96271587
>>96271596
sweet, ty anon

>>96272792
Loresloppers who have never touched a model are just secondaries

>>96272792
>three parts of 40k seems to be modeling, lore, and the game itself
Wrong, there are two: modeling/painting and playing the game. Anyone who doesn't do at least one of these is not participating in the hobby.

>>96272749
You mean the thing in the foreground? its my converted wraith themed avatar.

I sadly don't have a picture right hear. I recently finished it for the college actually.

Any suggestions for a DKoK Siege Regiment collection? I'm thinking one Company Command Squad, two Platoon Command Squads, two Heavy Weapon Command Squads(basically just Platoon Command Squads, but they have range finding equipment), about six ten-man infantry squads, about fifteen or so Combat Engineers, about fifteen Grenadiers(both could proxy as Veterans depending on the edition), a shit tonne of heavy weapons teams(mostly mortars, Autocannons, and heavy stubbers), a battery or two of three field artillery pieces, and two ten-man squads of Death Riders, with a Macharius to tie the whole force together as a center piece(would proxy as a Rogal Dorn now, I guess, because it got Legends'd).
I don't really wanna give them Leman Russes because I'm planning on collecting an entire company of Leman Russes for Steel Legion.

>>96272907
This. Just imagine the hobby in question is soccer, cars or fishing. Someone who is just into those things on a theoretical level is not really active in any of these hobbies either. He might know a lot about fish and fishing rods, but if he does not go fishing once in a while, he is not participating in the hobby of fishing. It's that simple.

>>96272792
If you divide it by those three things, then there are two picks necessary to be considered a 40k hobbyist.

>>96272792
this post was written by a coping lorefag that never touched a 40k miniature

>>96272956
Post minis or games

>>96272965
Nta but I noticed that you did not post your models first, interesting…

>>96271446
Glued together a bunch of bits to make a gravis marine for the new deathwatch kill team, and I have a cleaned up plague marine legs and a mk8 torso to make another, I'm waiting on a few arms to finish it.

>>96272977
ah forgot image

Are gsc hard to play? I've heard that they have a high skill floor but without having an army of them ill never experience it, unless i use something like tts

>>96272965
Hit a nerve, didn't I?

>>96272976
Nah I always get asked to post my shit, now its my fuckin turn!

>>96272987
Im not that anon, just curious. I do both but im a complete lorelet

>>96272942
I agree, but just because the threshold is so low. Having single painted model for just display elevates one from secondary imho

>>96272984
Yes, but only if you play one of the competitive detachments, muscle beach is as simple as most unga bunga armies, but not very effective.
Swarm Host, Bergentrucking and bugchaser detachments are very complicated because you need to balance a lot of complicated factors to not get crumpled.

>>96272792
>"lore"
First off, the correct shibboleth is "fluff".

Secondly, even the scalpers and hoarders of unopened boxes are more engaged in the hobby than the folks who're just "into the lore".

>>96273001
Is bugchaser a name for final day? If so then im probably fucked

If i were to make an ork list that was pure fluff, what would it consist of? It feels like most of their detachments are very fluffy

>>96272004
That's not what the book said

>>96273013
don't worry m8 look up a guide, bring lots of gargos and raveners to apply the buffs, play a bunch of games so you can tell how fast to advance so you don't get run over, and you'll get the hang of it in no time

>>96273025
120 boys, one big boss Warlord, and a few other units that fit your clan's specialty

>>96273038
this

>>96273025
and killa kans

>>96273038
So green tide. If i start painting all of my boyz now by the time im done 11e would be out and we'll be back to the meme index detachment. I'd love to play it but back pain and my opponents getting annoyed that my movement phase takes an hour deters me a little

>>96273055
Wearing baggy jeans and sneakers, of course.

>>96273055
With le baggy jeans and cool sneakers amirite ecks dee? I do need some killa kans though

>>96273064
>>96273071
nigkanmind

>>96273058
you dont play for others. wtf is it mattering if your movement phase takes more time. your enemy is ether happy fighting a fluffy list or can go and fuck him self. simple.

>>96273084
I've just noticed recently that I do take a while and although my opponents dont say anything i can feel the annoyance. I should just get a bunch of movement trays desu. 3 battlewagons full of 20 boyz squad each sounds like a great time though

>>96271457
shut up retard

Why are they all like this?

>>96272507
Who are /thosedudes/?

>>96271389 (OP)
Austin has five big FLGS, one of them is a full bar, so that's cool.

>>96273176
Im a borderline alcoholic so a bar at an lgs is perfect for me

>>96272805
I think they should've made Horus return and made Abaddon his lieutenant like every other Big 4 Legion (Magnus-Ahriman, Angron-Kharn, Fulgrim-Lucius and Mortarion-Typhus).

Killing off Horus was a shitty decision.
Black Legion could've been much cooler.

>>96272686
That one inch gap thing actually leaves more space than people think. #1 is that 25mm bases always fit, and #2 is that if you are 1.1"inching the wall and you have 32mm bases I believe 28mm bases can fit as well. The bigger your bases, the more that you create spaces for bigger bases to fit, as you'll always end up creating gaps due to the circle bases.

the "casual vs. competitive" dichotomy is a myth. literal copium

>>96273207
No offense but what a terrible idea

>>96273216
Why? Abaddon is neither charismatic or interesting enough for such an important position. He's no Archaon.

>>96273207
It's very likely that Horus will return at some point.
GW deliberately changed the ending and the final battle so that the Emperor doesn't obliterate Horus' soul from existance.
Instead Horus is remorseful due to his actions and Emperor in the end says paraphrasing "I forgive you, I will wait for you".

So it's pretty much guarantee that Horus will show up again at some point.
Will he be a puppet of the Chaos gods again though? Who knows.

>>96273213
Do tourney dudes have fun? Just from seeing those sorts of players it doesn't seem so

>>96273213
Historically the folks online would pretend that competitive play was the boogeyman, and so they would adopt this mindset of casual at all costs, going so far as to say not use lascannons if they were considered meta.

In the more modern era it has evolved to where competitive is anything more optimized than "a jump pack HQ leading jump pack troops" or "shooting tanks with high S weapons" even though heresy fags will say that last one is WAAC. I think the actual divide is between RAW being balanced and Rule 0. The competitive crowd thinks the game should be balanced out of the box, while folks here would like the game to be more flavored and for each game to balance itself via rule 0's. Like sure obliterators are OP but because of that Ill only take one pair

>>96273227
many do, yes. interestingly, i never see tourney dudes bemoaning that a "casual scene" is ruining their hobby.

>>96273213
this is what happens in a modern game with no ranked matchmaking
casual or """""narative""""" players are the same minmaxing autists that are just bad at the game aka bronze

>>96273224
That's even worse. It sounds like Horus will return as a loyalist if he ever returns.

>>96273255
i have a friend that constantly complains that 40k is "too focused on competitive balance" but when you ask him questions about what he means, he mostly just wants to be able to win without thinking.

>>96273244
Parasites don't think about the host they're sucking all the life out of. In their tiny brains, they're all that exists and all that matters.

>>96273261
Loyalist Horus is cool. Shaking things up with Chaos is fun.
Also it'd make the inevitable Horus and Abaddon meeting funnier since Abby will just seethe.

>>96273272
or, consider this, they just aren't seething and stewing in an inferiority complex like a certain class of above-it-all-below-it-alls.

>>96273272
>everyone else is a problem except me

How would you feel if GW introduced other dice like d12 and d20 for some things in next edition?

>>96273224
I think what Abnett was trying to hint at there is that Horus will return to kill the Emperor, as Chaos prophesized it to happen, so it MUST happen at some point. And then it turns out that Erebus killing Garviel Loken transformed Loken's soul into Samus, a greater daemon, who went back in time and made sure the Horus Heresy happened. My theory is that when the Emperor murdered Horus, that was the event that birthed Drach'nyen, because the whole scene is written as the Emperor is murdering Horus with a rock, in the most primeval way imaginable, and it's even mentioned that time itself was breaking down around the Emperor and Horus, causing their battle to echo back to the start of the universe. So my thinking is, Loken turned into Samus when he was murdered, and when Horus was murdered, he turned into Drach'nyen, since that was technically the First Murder in all of time. So Horus will return... but not as Horus anymore. The Emperor forgives him for his mistakes, but he always awaits Horus's return to end his own suffering. That's my analysis of the scene, anyways.
>The Emperor is also the one who sealed Drach'nyen into a sword and made sure it would be recovered eventually, at some point, by stabbing Ra with it and making him run into the Webway
>tfw he was actually setting up his own suicide-by-daemon

>>96273306
I wouldn't mind it as someone who has loads of RPG dice, but only needing D6's is nice for casual play

>>96273306
At first I thought this game would be better with more granularity, make it d10 based.
Then I remember how it would be utter hell to own, and store, and roll the same amount of d10s that we roll for d6s.

>>96273309
>fridge thought: if Loken turned into a Greater Daemon when he was murdered, and Horus turned into a Greater Greater Daemon when he was murdered, what would the Emperor turn into when he gets murdered?

>>96273309
>trying to hint at there is that Horus will return to kill the Emperor
That's never happening for the very simple reason that GW wants to keep selling 40k.
And even if it did happen Emperor would just revive himself because he's a perpetual.

Detachments completely mog subfactions

>>96273208
What if you're 0.9" from the wall, and the wall is 0.2" thick? I think the point is to leave a gap bigger than 1" but smaller than the base size if the would be chargers.

Big backs with 2-4" bases are right fooked.

>>96273361
>That's never happening for the very simple reason that GW wants to keep selling 40k.
True.
>And even if it did happen Emperor would just revive himself because he's a perpetual.
False. Drach'nyen is powerful enough to kill Perpetuals. That's why Abaddon took the sword in the first place, it's the only weapon in the galaxy that can actually put the Emperor down permanently.

>>96273306
In a strict gameplay sense, D12 is objectively superior to D6 for game balance so I would vastly prefer it.

>>96273309
>My theory is that when the Emperor murdered Horus, that was the event that birthed Drach'nyen,
Doesn't make any sense since the First Murder happened thousands of years before Emperor and Horus fought.
Hell, you could argue that Emperor watching his uncle murder Emperor's father is the actual First Murder that spawned Drachnyen and would make much more sense.

>>96273371
>>96273361
I guarantee you the Emperor will be killed and the throne will implode, but it will be the portion of his soul that is on the throne itself.
The Star Child will still exist and be active in the setting as we have already seen.

>>96273379
>Doesn't make any sense since the First Murder happened thousands of years before Emperor and Horus fought.
They traveled through time during their battle because their battle broke spacetime.

>>96273369
If you're within 1" of the wall you can be engaged by people on the other side

>>96273271
That's a major problem with caac faggots. They bitch about the game not needing to balanced, as long as their faction has an the advantage.

>>96273371
>False. Drach'nyen is powerful enough to
Do damage.
It's actual abilities doesn't mean shit because this is the Emperor we are talking about.
Also the whole Drachnyen stuff just smells of Chaos wank, which isn't surprising because it's only been brought forth in the new iteration of Horus Heresy.
>it's the only weapon that can kill Emperor
There's plenty of weapons that can kill perpetuals, Abaddon's stick isn't anything special.
Fucking BL can't even remember their own damn lore they write.

>>96273379
>Doesn't make any sense since the First Murder happened thousands of years before Emperor and Horus fought.
Read my post again. They broke time itself when they fought. In particular, the moment the Emperor kills Horus is emphasized to be as barbaric and primal as possible, caveman-style, a father murdering his son with a rock. It's very clearly evoking themes of the 'First Murder,' and there's a twisted poetry in the idea that Loken and Horus both are turned into daemons of a similar kind. Samus is the Daemon of Murder, Drach'nyen is the Daemon of the First Murder. Like Primarch, like Legionary.

>>96273394
Show me the rule that states this. The 2" engagement range faq got nixed btw.

>>96273389
>They traveled through time during their battle because their battle broke spacetime.
>time travel
That never happened in the book.

>>96273404
>Also the whole Drachnyen stuff just smells of Chaos wank, which isn't surprising because it's only been brought forth in the new iteration of Horus Heresy.
Drach'nyen has existed since 3rd edition my man
>There's plenty of weapons that can kill perpetuals, Abaddon's stick isn't anything special.
If by 'plenty' you mean about six daggers that were forged from what was originally a single dagger that the Emperor created to kill his fellow Perpetuals in the past, then sure. But then why are you claiming Abaddon can't kill the Emperor if you acknowledge there are a number of weapons proven to be capable of it?

>>96273408
Also Emperor's and Horus' battle depicted them playing cards as well.
What you gonna imply that it spawned the daemon of the First Cheat into the Warp as well?

>>96273428
>Also Emperor's and Horus' battle depicted them playing cards as well. What you gonna imply that it spawned the daemon of the First Cheat into the Warp as well?
No, because card games don't create daemons. Murder does. Read the damn book you stupid fucking faggot.

>>96273413
Yes it did, their battle broke the linearity of time so by definition they time traveled.
Time travel isn't strictly Back to the Future DeLoreans or microwaved bananas.

>>96273420
>But then why are you claiming Abaddon can't kill the Emperor if you acknowledge there are a number of weapons proven to be capable of it?
The other knvies can, drachnyen can't.

>>96273431
>Yes it did
No it didn't. I've read End and the Death part 3 and that part never happens.
I'm one of the people in these threads who has intentionally gaslighted people into thinking that happens in the book because I know nobody here reads this shit at all.

>>96273309
Nobody got turned "into" a demon Anon. The deed gives birth to a demon, not the soul of the victim becomes the demon.

>>96273309
>Loken becomes Samus
No, he specifically just dies. It's just that Loken's death spawns Samus.
Loken is not a daemon prince at all.

>>96273420
The word bearers made dozends of those daggers, if not hundreds. Ol' got his warp cutting knife from a random cultist leader on calth. They made so many of them, they even gave them to cultist chaff.

>>96273166
still writing lore

>>96273443
No, you are attempting to gaslight right now. Time broke on the Vengeful spirit during their battle and it stayed broken in the area until the battle finished.
"Time travel" in this case isn't meant to mean they went into the past, it is to say they went outside of linear time, which is simultaneously in the past, present, and future. This is how the effects of their fight can impact past events; the battle took place outside of linear causality.

>>96273487
the emperor and horus did fight at all points in time though, it is pretty explicit

>>96273411
in that case it would work but then you're running custom terrain so you'd need to agree with your opponent how it works

>>96273506
I agree, I don't see the contradiction between my post and your reply. We both agree that the battle took place outside of linear chronology which is how it could effect things in a non-linear manner, which includes effect things in the past.

>>96273487
>No, you are attempting to gaslight right now.
Emperor and Horus never fought in the begining of the universe, that's straight up fanfiction I've been shitposting in these threads.
The entire thing is fake and you fell for it.

>>96273521
Im a different anon, I was just saying.

I do think its funny that TEATD is the first taste most people got into how strong the emperor actually is if you read into it.

>>96273522
Their fight broke the linearity of time, so yes their fight took part as much at the beginning of time as at the end and all parts in between.
>>96273531
I see, and yeah I agree. If it wasn't for his goals as well as Leetu, Loken, and Grammaticus it is very possible that he would have just became the Dark King and effectively ended the setting as we knew it.

>>96273531
TEATD is trash and expanding upon the Horus Heresy will always be a mistake.
It didn't make 40k more interesting or "deep", it just made it gayer and lamer.
Entirety of the Horus Heresy can be boiled down to "Karen took the kids" thanks to Abnett and his terrible writing.

>>96273207
>pale daemon
>colored cables
I dig it

>>96273550
>Their fight broke the linearity of time
That never happened.
>so yes their fight took part as much at the beginning of time
It didn't, that's straight up bullshit I've shitposted for year and a half at this point. People just keep falling for it because they never buy the books and never read them.
Drachnyen is the daemon of first murder but it was never due to Horus.

how annoying it would be to kitbash a kahl into yoht grendok purely wargear-wise?

>>96273522
>He can see your surprise. He pushes in to exploit it. You hammer away a series of aggressive sword-strokes. In pulling off this trick, He has revealed His understanding of your domain. Not just your Court, but the wider realm of Chaos that inevitably surrounds it. He has grasped that everything, and everywhere, and everywhen, meets here in your isochronal nexus, conjoined by the warp, and thus that everything, and everywhere, and everywhen, is accessible.

>>96273551
You didn't read it, you read summaries of it and decieded it was trash

Dan Abnett is a fucking hack

>>96273566
NTA but the second volume begins with Kelbor Hal talking about how time is fucked. Horus fucked time, in the third Ahriman talks about how normal foresight doesnt work

>>96273593
yeah why wasn't the emperor vs horus a heckin grounded duel

>>96273590
Nah, I did read it. I read the original leaks about Erda when those first circulating here. I read the very pages themselves that were photographed.
Horus Heresy and the next 10 000 years have just been reduced to "Karen took the kids". and that is lame and gay. And it makes 40k worse.

>>96273600
Time is fucked in the modern imperium as well due to the Great Rift existing.
Time being "fucky" means nothing in the grand scheme of things.

>>96273619
The end and the death didnt leak as photoscans though, the epub dropped first. The erda stuff was in saturnine not TEATD You're full of shit

>>96273630
in the modern imperium time flows, just at different rates across the galaxy.

During the late siege tine is completely stopped, and the sol system is in a superposition of who will win meaning guilliman could have never arrived on time, the instant he pierces the bubble the winner is decided

Wish the Snakebites releases focused a little less on the beasts and gave some love to the shaman/psyker side of Orks

When will 40K get good mounts/vehicles

>>96273675
never because nothing new is ever good

>>96273637
>The erda stuff was in saturnine not TEATD
I never said it was, idiot.

>>96273680
then whats this?

>>96273619
>Nah, I did read it. I read the original leaks about Erda when those first circulating here.


sorry to catch you in a lie anon, I know skimming a book to make up complaints is hard work, but theres a reason I exclude stuff when I do novel summaries and its to catch people like you

>>96273516
All ruins I have ever seen have walls that exist in the 3rd dimension, so have a thickness greater than 0". So being 0.999repeating" away from any ruin wall achieves this.

>>96273692
Nigger, I was talking about Saturnine leaks. Not TEATD

>>96273708
You said TEATD sucked, I said you didn't read it, you then tried to talk about when Saturnine leaked as a reason TEATD sucked

>>96273716
No, I think TEATD fucking sucks I read it and said expanding upon the Heresy was a mistake, ie. I mean entirety of the book series.
I am referencing Saturnine with Erda because she's a perfect example of the dogshit that the redone version of the Horus Heresy is.
I'm sorry that you aren't literate enough to figure it out. It is possible to talk about 2 books at once.

>>96273736
so you didn't actually read TEATD and you're hoping you can virtue signal, anon just stop its pathetic

>>96273757
>so you didn't
I told you the answer.
I get what you're doing. Trying to bait into an endless retard chain.
Fuck off. Also I can tell you're american.

>>96273769
Anons mad he got caught, the books free anon you can look up the PDF easily without a loicence

>>96273566
>That never happened.
Yes it did
>It didn't
It did, as I already explained the warp around the Vengeful spirit caused the area to elevate itself from the linearity of time until the battle was over, after which time returned to normal.
Whether their battle spawned Drachnyen I don't know nor was I the anon who claimed such, but it is true that their battle was not linear chronologically like the rest of the material universe and as such could influence things in the past or future.

>blslop

>>96273811
lorefags really are a blight on this general

>>96273827
if you take the lore out of 40k there are much better games to play with much better minis

I like to imagine that time distortions in the nihilus has made some systems descend into pre technological states while others managed to survive and even thrive then reject the imperium as of the imperium has enough shit to deal with.

Primarchs are the worst part of 40k lore and I'm fucking tired of them.

>>96273839
Golden hands typed this post.

>>96273839
I think psuedo history is the worst part, sorry but referncing WW2 for the fifth time doesn't make your guard regiment cool

I require some first army advice. I narrowed it down to a couple of armies and can't decide. Picture picked at random.

Black Templars vs. Space Wolves vs. Leagues of Votann vs. Thousand Sons vs. Necrons vs. Adepta Sororita

Send help.

>>96273847
Guardbros what’s our rebuttal?

>>96273834
name them

>>96273874
Bolt Action, Focus Firepower, Black powder, Marvel Crisis Protocol, The new Gundam game

>>96273847
>dont like primarchs
>must be a guardfag
Secondaries are absolutely mindbroken

>>96273703
You're missing the point, which is that circular bases don't let you screen a perfect line. if you are on 32mm bases, 25mm and 28mm can fit in the gaps created by the circles. 32mm can probably fit vs screening 40's etc...

>>96273878
>any of these
>better minis than 40k
fucking kek

>>96273870
I'm all about that Vietnam aircav myself, personally.

>>96273889
40k minis are souless slop

>>96273869
It depends on what parts matter more to you, do you care more about hobby stuff or gameplay stuff?
Do you care about the army being easy to paint for a first army or are you fine jumping into something that will be more skill intensive to get looking good?
From those my choice would be Thousand Sons, Votann, and Templars and from there if you want a more melee focus go Templars or if you want a more shooting (psychic is glorified shooting in this edition) go Thousand Sons and if you want a mix go Votann.

>>96273890
NTA but I remember someone did some armiger conversions into helicopters that looked pretty sick

>>96273891
Even if you don't like them (why are you here?) then they are still of much, MUCH higher quality than anything you listed.

>>96273891
>nomodels secondary finally exposes himself
like clockwork, go back to /v/

>>96273834
>much better games
yes, even other GW games. 40k has always been one of the weakest GW games rules-wise
>much better minis
ehhh, nope. GW keeps being the best. Specially because of the rich lore behind the minis

>>96272030
>golden throne is slowly failing
>needs more psykers daily to fill Big E's
>tech adepts bring a Dark Eldar to help them fix it
>deldar sees the Golden Throne and falls to his knees
>there is a torture device that torments BOTH it's user and a thousand (and growing) souls per day
>it has worked nonstop for ONE HUNDRED CENTUREIES
>this gargantuan machine's insides are so small that children have to slave to clean/grease the machinery, often at the cost of life and limb
>there is nothing even remotely similar in the history of Commorragh, probably not.even during the worst excesses of the Eldar Empire
>deldar cries
>Custodes and techpriests are happy because they think this filthy xenos has understoood the greatness of Mankind
>in anvery twisted way, he has.

>>96273869
what you are looking for tho? Assuming you like all ranges in every army
>BT
melee heavy marines, not too hard to paint but can get boring
>space wolves
also melee heavy marines but some of their detachments have you work your ass off for army buffs, easy fast paint
>votann
about to be more shooty horde army with melee support but new codex seems roughly ok with the expanded range. More corporation than "muh grudges", painting hit or miss
>TS
annemic range, veeery shooty with rituals now, kinda slow and require thinking. Unlikely to get anything for a while and if they do it will likely be underwhelming again, hell to paint no matter which technique you use
>Necrons
Tanky, can do both shooting and melee good, you kinda need the silent king, they almost paint themselves for "good enough" state
>Sisters
a lot of detail to paint, so not too easy, mix of shooty and melee, soften up into devastating clean up charge, alas hard to get the good boxes anymore so c/hope for xmass battleforce to have the good stuff

>>96273906
>turns out that the DEldar fell to his knees because he realized that humanity took eldar equivalent of a VR headset made for watching porn and turned it into a torture device that keeps a portal closed

>>96273874
Not really a game studio but Victrix minis makes insanely high detailed plastic historical minis that mog the stuff gw puts out and mogs wargames Atlantic’s stuff too. They manage to get by on affordable pricing that warhammer fanboys dream their models would be priced at.

I also like oathmark’s fantasy miniatures. Even the metal ones.

>>96273906
>children have to slave to clean/grease the machinery
If only servo-skulls, cherubs, or just mechadendrites were a thing that could snake their way inside the delicate machinery, rather than trusting the work to a bunch of children.

>>96273906
Did this really happen in bl lore? I Ike it.

>>96273897
>>96273915
Thank you anons. I suppose it's between Black Templars and Thousand Sons. I'm slightly leaning Templar but not by much.
You both gave very good advice, thank you.

Im gonna be real i dont know what the fuck im doing.
I tried doing a pair of test models to try making some purple skin. Then I had the bright idea to try making it with regular skin but just throwing purple shade on another model, but that just looks like regular skin now. As far as ghouls go these models turned out pretty great, but not sure how much they helped me with actually nailing down a color scheme/process for my demon prince. At least I got to test out some new paints and do a bit of slight nmm, i guess.

Anyone got some suggestions or some recipes for a nice palepurple/gray sort of demon skin?

>>96273933
Yeah but then Dark Eldar fucked them over and tried making their own mini Golden Throne with Custodes on it.

>>96273933
Best inquisition books ever. Set in Terra during the events just before the opening of the Great Rift

>>96273906
And people say 40k has lost it's grimdarkness

>>96273924
>If only servo-skulls, cherubs, or just mechadendrites
The problem is that everything you listed has metal parts that could jam a delicate component.
The flesh is weak, afterall

>>96272004
That was Blanche saying how he sees things in a random Youtube interview and not new lore. GW official lore may be "wrong" and have this skele guy as actual one

>>96273956
People who say that are terminally online fags that have never read anything beyond GW marketing, wikis, or 7-8th ed codexes.

>>96273955
>Best inquisition books
I must dispute that

>>96273954
No, the DEldar wanted to take a piece of Emperor's DNA and then make a clone out of it and have the said clone sit on their own version of the Golden Throne (GT is implied to be originally Eldar technology from the pre-Fall era) and they'd use the clone and throne to close off the gaping hole in the webway formerly known as Khaine's Gate.

>>96273977
imagine fucking a callidus assassin while both of you are fucked up on Polymorphine

>>96273976
>tumblr
You need to go back.

>>96273957
>The problem is that everything you listed has metal parts that could jam a delicate component.
>The flesh is weak, afterall
If a small rinky dink piece of metal can jam the Golden Throne then the metal is weak as well and the GT's construction is shoddy at best.

>>96273977
>Harlequin
Why do I get the impression that this isn't actually focused on the Eldar?

>>96273977
Ian Watson's fetish fanfiction isn't canon.
They are the few books even GW itself looks at and goes "Yeah... This shit isn't part of our brand."

>>96273957
Kids are not very well coordinated yet, so they're far more likely to make mistakes than machinery that you can program to do only what they need to and not jam their arms into moving gears. And if a machinery is delicate enough to get damaged from a hair thin mechadendrite (very fine ones exist in the fluff and you bet your ass if there's one place that'll get any technology they need no matter the cost, it's the Golden Throne) getting caught in it, then a child's limb will definitely damage it.

>>96273976
if you ever want a fun time, go read the 1d4chan summaries of the 7th edition codex. In hindsight the level of copium is hilarious, whoever wrote them assumed that nothing was gonna sitck even though the plot had been moving forward for some 6 years at that point

>>96273977
>caring about official GW images taken from tumblr
>in 2025 AD
thanks for proving my point, terminally online fag

>>96273996
Ever watched TTS? The "Harlequin" is the secret boss of the clown man Zephronñ Carnellian in the Draco novel

>>96274000
They were also published starting in 1990 when 40k lore was wildly different. from what got cemented in the mid 90s and onwards.

>>96274000
>GW doesn't like it
Can't get better endorsement than that.

>>96273977
>muh iAN wATSON
Nobody should care about his deprecated and non-canon tone-deaf hipster shit anymore. He's one of the reasons Abnett jumped the shark with TEATD

>>96274024
>rick and morty
>>>Reddit

>>96274024
No, they are pretty bad.
If you read them you 100% come to understand as to why GW doesn't want to acknowledge them ever.

I feel like the Terminus Decree wouldn’t have to be dumb if it was about the “Dark King” emerging in 40K. Like powering the Astronomicon and holding back Eye of Terror 2: Electric Boogaloo saps all the power that could have been used to birth the new Chaos god, and if the Emperor was removed from the Throne, he would be in such a weakened state where he couldn’t resist the oncoming of the Dark King. Thus the need for the Grey Knights to stick him back on it, as they have much greater experience dealing with Chaos through fighting their strongest Champions.

>>96274026
How did abnett jump the shark with TEATD?

>>96274010
>everything I don't like is tumblr
Are you mentally retarded?

>>96274031
So why have they reprinted them so many times?

>>96273947
Checking out the schemes for daemonette skin in the Citadel app might be helpful for you

>>96274036
>I feel like the Terminus Decree wouldn’t have to be dumb if it was about the “Dark King” emerging in 40K.
No, that shit would've been ever more retarded and cringe.
The Dark King plotline is entirely pointless but also just plain garbage.

>>96273923
Victrix is good but
>mogs the stuff gw outs out
is crazy. Steelhelms alone clear any Victrix unit.

>>96273839
think guilliman coming back is interesting
they'll have to do something with lion that contrasts with guilliman for it to be worth waking him up
as for the chaos primarchs I dont mind them being around in the lore not too sure about them getting models as battling guilliman against them feels a little too much like smashing action figures together without much narrative sense

>>96274039
yes, I quoted you instead of this other retard >>96273993

>>96272030
so some cypher or Assassin is not murking the emperor. same reason some very high profile people have doubles standing in.

>>96274056
Oh, sorry then

>>96274036
>>96274047
People assume that Grey Knights will be fighting Against Custodes, Sisters and a whole bunch of other nonsense and they are WRONG.

Terminus Decree is to be enacted during the end times when everything goes to shit. What wakes up from the Throne might not even be The Emperor and everyone will be fighting that THING.

>>96274000
>Ian Watson's fetish fanfiction isn't canon.
is the only cannon not your shit Disney fanfiction you cling on. fuck off nu looser.

The best part about the terminus decree being revealed is it showed all the redditors didn't ever want to read 40k lore, they just wanted to stop others from knowing more than they did.

>>96274068
>What wakes up from the Throne might not even be The Emperor
It is the Emperor evidenced by the fact that Guilliman talked with him.
Emperor is still 100% stuck on the Golden Throne and is not a god within the Warp.

>>96274071
Whatever you say, scat fetishist.

>tumblr cuck melty
You love to see it.

>>96274026
and what's wrong with that? How else would you enter a living giant space ship not knowing where to penetrante? its the only logical and safest solution.

fucking americans and there disney bullshit.
its not like it has gills or a nose and surly dont want to get throu the mouth.

>>96274081
>Emperor is still 100% stuck on the Golden Throne and is not a god within the Warp.
This is factually incorrect, the Emperors Soul is split into two portions, the Thronebound half and the Star Child half.

>>96274081
Guilliman talked with SOMEONE or SOMETHING that was sitting on the throne. He himself was weirded out by the exchange and The Emperor's soul is split anyway.

>>96274060
>so some cypher or Assassin is not murking the emperor
You think anyone has been able to get to the Emperor without him being aware of it?
>same reason some very high profile people have doubles standing in.
They're not immobile in a fixed location and guarded by armies of 100% loyal super-humans while their very existence is paramount to the survival of so many people they all have vested interest in keeping them safe and alive. Not even the likes of Goge Vandire tried to replace the Emperor.

>>96274081
>It is the Emperor evidenced by the fact that Guilliman talked with him.
its very clear that what was speaking only had a shred of the original emperor left, every sentence he spoke was rife with madness

Do I buy this and the new Combat Patrol or skip the old Combat Patrol?

What did the emperor say? Can I read the excerpts somewhere? I'm curious if they actually put words from him on paper, or just gave a description of the scene

>>96274106
Do you like all the stuff in the box?

>>96274106
Both is good if you like whats in them

>>96274113
I think those 5 Intercessors might be useless. Maybe?

>>96274081
nta, but shut the fuck up and read the Dark Imperium trilogy
>>96274094
And nobody knows wtf is the Thronebound half now
>>96274098
>>96274103
The custodes next to Guilliman saw him talking to himself in a conversation that he doesn't remember. There's zero assurance, and several instances of characters mind wiped or manipulated by the Emperor.
Like several Primarchs during the Great Crusade/HH (Molech, the Lost ones, Vulkan)

>>96274125
>The custodes next to Guilliman saw him talking to himself in a conversation that he doesn't remember. There's zero assurance, and several instances of characters mind wiped or manipulated by the Emperor. Like several Primarchs during the Great Crusade/HH (Molech, the Lost ones, Vulkan)
I dont see how that disproves what I said, theres nothing to suggest the emperor is in full control and is doing that on purpose

>>96274041
I dont have the app, not planning on getting it either ngl.

>>96274125
>The custodes next to Guilliman saw him talking to himself in a conversation that he doesn't remember.
heh heh

>>96274086
go and die nu looser. do a back flip on the way out.

>>96274068
nu faggots dont understand the 40k lore and the true power of psykers. the final form and evolution of mankind. custodies are a joke compared to a human psyker. space marine chapter consisting of only Liberians are the true nightmare they have no chance of wining against.

normal untrained psykers go off like thermo nuclear weapons when not controlled, open warp rifts and let demons in or even worse, enslavers. spastics cry and bitch because they dont know and understand the 40k lore and true danger of psykers. They are living gods, there will made manifest.

Who says that the GK dont open warp portals and let demons in uneding waves strom the imperial palace, they closed more portals then any single custodies has seen in 20 lifetimes. they know how to open them summen demons not just the bitch ass foot solideres. The ones with great names, that they know and it gives them the true control over them. Each and every GK can open warp rifts and suck anything inside. there psy weapons instant kill anything they touch. sorry but always the retarded subhuman spastics that cry out the loudest not even understanding the basics.

GK kill humans with a finger snip no matter if its a custard or sos. psykers are op as fuck.

Are we expecting any more new previews or announcements at NOVA in three weeks?

>>96274106
If you’re set on Black Templars, it wouldn’t be a bad idea. The only overlap is the Crusader Squad is in both boxes, but from my understanding, 20 of those guys is completely normal for a list.

>>96274027
Calm down

>>96274099
>They're not immobile in a fixed location and guarded by armies of 100% loyal super-humans while their very existence is paramount to the survival of so many people they all have vested interest in keeping them safe and alive. Not even the likes of Goge Vandire tried to replace the Emperor.

there is a thing called chaos and the inquisition. believe it or not but there sub factions that would rather see the emperor dead others alive and walking and they do what ever they want, given the chance they kill him to prove a point. fuck the lords of terra would kill him for good if it meant they get absolute power.

>>96274146
holy ESL lmao

>>96274125
>And nobody knows wtf is the Thronebound half now
True, my point is that the Emperor is not 100% just the thronebound half.
IMO, the Thronebound half that is The Emperor without his compassion and more "human" emotional side would be a threat if it were to escape on its own at this point. I could see it wanting to basically turn humans into second Necrons as it no longer values "humanity" as a quality worth keeping, only survival.
This COULD be why the Terminus decree is the way it is in the codex, although I don't even think the Codex one is the actual decree it is a speculation by the writer of the Codex.
The only person who can open the wooden box to know what is in it is Draigo and he has not opened it yet, therefore it can't be known what is in it to the writer of the Codex.
The only Terminus weapon we know of is the FOXDIE forma de Emporio genética which would kill all beings who have had their genetics altered with the Emperors methods and it's derivatives, which would make sense as a endgame level failsafe, but we don't know that is what the decree is.

>>96274120
5 Intercessors are the perfect amount if you include them on your list at all. While everyone else fighting they can sticky your home objectives and do a surprising amount of shooting.

>>96274147
I'd expect the supposed new marine box set with assault terminators, codex dark eldar, and a tease for the end of edition campaign

>>96274139
The encounter with the Emperor is told from Gulliman's memories. So it's unreliable.
Compare that to what happens at the end when he posseses Guilliman, or him "talking" with Cawl in The Great Work
>>96274145
Not in the Throne Room, anon

>>96274164
yes i am superior to you in every point. as is every ESL on this board. Thx for pointing it out.

>>96274120
Is there a unit you could use the intercessor bodies for that you are interested in? Hellblasters, infernus guys etc.

>>96274047
Change "Dark King" to "Star Child"
Imagkne if a shard of the Emperor's mind resurrected on it's own and the GK had to bring Him to Terra

>>96274178
That isn't better and is equally retarded and cringe.

>>96274141
You should, it's good for just giving ideas and the recipes are all free. You just can't save your own paintschemes without the premium thing

>>96274162

>>96274113
>>96274119
>>96274155
I like what's in the box because I like the Black Templars but I'm not sure how useful the 5 Intercessors or the Repulsor will be or if the old CP is worth it. I think I need to look at some lists. I don't want to end up like that anon with 80 Dwarves he can't use anymore.

>>96274168
Alright, that sounds good.

>>96274176
I think this Combat Patrol has the big upgrade sprue with multiple BT weapons etc. so I could Templar them up at the very least.

>>96274184
Yes, but it's better than what GW wrote, a fucking paper slip saying
"Put me back in the chair lol -E"

Warhammer lore is seemingly something everyone wishes they were an expert on and for nothing new to ever be added, rather than it being something you read and learn more about.

>>96274196
Both are retarded shit, I'm not compromising on this.

>>96274202
90% of the new lore is pretty awful

>>96274196
Nah I think it was good. Look how many lively discussions we have in the community and it's not the REEEEE FEMALE CUSTODES kind. Actual lore discussion. It's good. They should do it more often. It's not like any of it will come true anytime soon.

>valrak is now just reacting to videos of other warhammertubers

>>96274208
most "new lore" is basic assumptions made off of stuff from the mid 2000's

>>96274202
It's just loud minority of geriatric grogs and they wil be dead soon so nothing to worry about.

>>96274171
>Two truths and a lie

>>96274214
And it is still awful regardless.

>>96272004
>How do you feel about the new lore that this is im fact not the Emperor but just decoration hiding his real body?

Logical.

>Also how do you feel about Custodes being genetically loyal and obedient to him?

Normal, that's why he made them, its there sole purpose.

>>96274047
YOU'RE garbage.

>>96274209
>Look how many lively discussions we have
Vast majority of it is pointless shitposting and spastics arguing over whats canon and whats not in the """lore""" of a plastic space soldier game.

>>96274194
Intercessors are always good to have for sticky objectives and objective play.
Repulsor is also good and I'm pretty sure the Templars get a unique one in their army unit wise.
All the models are new and will have support for likely decades.

>>96274243
>oh no, people are talking about 40k in the 40k general!
retard

Now gw should bring back the khan on bike, and give the white scars an index with detachments.

>>96274250
>/tg/ - traditional GAMES
Take your lore autism somewhere else

>>96272858
I'm sure they'll drop their points like a stone to make them 50% winrate, I just didn't sign up for a horde army. Or at least, not a universal horde army. If you want to make Hearthkyn and Hernkyn Scouts cheap go ahead, but Hearthguard are supposed to be elite tier TEQs, not Celestian Sacresant tier TEQs.

>>96274250
Whinging about new lore and defending old outdated lore that even writers gave up on has nothing to do with 40k.

>>96272732
You can join the club with ad mech it'll be great.

Is this a good purchase? I ordered a Lamp + Magnifying glass befoire (was cheap as fuck) but it was also trash as fuck and barely usable. Would this combo be better? I don't have a big desk right now and both products came recommended.

>>96274268
If you can't see the detail then it doesn't matter.

>>96274258
The lore is part of the game, retard.
Do you also chimp out in other generals talking about the stories of their own universes , or are you just a terminal glue sniffer?
Fuck off to /wip/ or reddit competitive subreddit

>>96274146
Do you speak english

>used to have a black templars firstborn army
>never got the EC
>but still have the firstborn metal sword brethren
>see new BT stuff
I'm not going to buy primaris bt. But those are nice sword brethren.

>>96274265
>talking about 40k is not 40k because I don't like to read!

>>96274268
wasted money

>>96274283
do you spastic?

>>96274290
You haven't read anything in the last 10 years grog so your opinion is irrelevant.

>>96274279
The glass is for eyes and faces. My eyesight is not the best.

>>96274292
Wasted money on what? A lamp? The glass? Both cost less than a box troops and I need a decent light.

>>96271389 (OP)
TQ: Terracrux in Tacoma. Store is great, run by a friend of a friend from high school, decent tables, big communities for 40k, Necromunda, TOW, AoS, also people that play Marvel, Heavy Gear, AGOT. Parking sucks absolute ass though. The four spaces in front of the shop are 30 minute only and everything within six blocks is metered.

>>96274296
>More incomprehensible ESL gibbering

>>96274301
oh, so you just replied to the wrong anon

I've read more books in the last years than you ever will

>>96274306
Doxxed

>>96274312
don't lie, you can't read

Done with my Wolf Priest for now

>>96274290
the only 40k related thing you've ever read is a couple wiki articles, faggot

>>96274328
How do you have time to paint so much? It takes me a month to paint 5 dudes

>>96274194
>I think this Combat Patrol has the big upgrade sprue with multiple BT weapons etc. so I could Templar them up at the very least.
Even if it didn't the crusaders sprues are overloaded with spare parts and decorations.

>>96274332
I paint will speaking on the phone

>>96274332
If you painted to the standard he does you'd also be able to paint 10 minis a week

>>96274349
You are truly the ultimate twerp

>>96274328
Good job.

>>96274332
He's just doing Battle Ready+ but it looks good.

Is putting an ectoplasma forgiefiend in a World Eater 1K list good or meme?

>>96273869
Adepta Sororitas and Thousand Sons are similar in that they both have shitloads of trim that makes their models difficult to paint. Sisters are slightly worse in that you'll need to paint about twice as many.

Necrons are the opposite in that they're so dead simple to paint you might get bored.

I'd say Votann are probably the right level of difficulty for painting, unless you run a lot of their bikes in which case you need to learn subassembly painting. Space Wolves and Black Templars will be easier for the standard marine models and tougher for the chapter specific models.

>>96274354
Ty

these phobos marines are shit, thickest mould lines I've had to deal with in ages, right down the front of every leg. scopes that attach right behind iron sights that have to be shaved off. and you have to glue on endless pouches to stop them looking like chicken legged nerds trying to look tough in that quarter squat power stance

sticking with tacticus and terminators in the future

>>96272805
>did it all in 9 years
warpfuckery altered the passage of time on terra during the siege so some battles lasted years or decades

>>96274364
Are you doing a full SW army or just some characters?

>>96274376
I have an army already, just painting the new stuff.

>>96274332
NTA but getting a WFH or short commute job helps. One of the keys to getting productive with painting is to paint whenever you get the urge, even if it's the middle of the night.
Always have a project going, hone in on a specific color pallette for your army so you get familiar with how each paint works and don't have to go searching through your colors. Figure out the methods you want to use.

Personally, my process is generally prime ivory block in colors with speedpaint going darkest to lightest then highlight and fix with warpaint fanatic/citadel.

Who do you think is getting a Battleforce this Christmas?

>>96274354
it's not battleready, let alone "battleready+"
he doesn't even paint in all the details,

>>96274399
Votann, Eldar, Imperial guard. That's my guess.

>>96274404
I apologize for my failures

>>96274399
ultramarines

>>96274399
All the factions that didn't get an army box with their codex probably. Black Templar, Eldar, AdMech, Necrons and probably also Emperor's Children and Space Marines.

>>96274419
don't feed this warp entity

>>96274399
Probably Dark Eldar to clear out old stock right before new kits, along with some special character horseshit.

My guess:
Ulthwe themed Eldar box with Eldrad Ulthuan and more guardians than you'd ever use.
Ghaz'ghull box with tons of the new ork boyz along with meganobz and big gunz
Space Marines box with Phobos Marines, Heavy Intercessors(Every battleforce has them), and a Repulsor
"World Eaters" box that's 90% flesh hounds.
Ad Mech box that's actually a great deal (Like 500 points of Ironstriders) that goes out of stock five seconds after preorders are up.
Transport themed Votann box with two sagitaurs, two Kapricus, Hernkyn Yagirs, Hearthkyn, and Ulthuan

>>96272400
Wasn't that a Space Yiff?

>>96274399
I want Genestealer Cults, probably won't buy it.

I just finished Valdor Birth of the Imperium. It was ok. I liked Master of Mankind more. Going to read The Last Son of Prospero next.

>>96274209
nonce artist

>>96274508
>This post is off-topic.

>>96273886
You'd have to math it out. 25mm vs 25mm bases. The total width of two infantry and an enemy all in base to base contact is ~46.65mm (such as pic). Meaning that 3.35mm is the wiggle room for such cases. Most walls average at least a quarter inch (6.25mm).

So your models would stand at 4mm under and inch from the wall. That's for same sized 25mm infantry. Bigger stuff is even easier, even big stuff blocking big stuff. Its harder when marines are trying to block out guardsmen that it gets difficult I guess.

>>96274328
Did you fucking highlight the mouldline, what the actual fuck hahahaha

>>96274541
no he doesn't know how to highlight

>>96274465
What would they even put in a DE value box when half their shit can't be purchased? I don't think they've ever had a battle force before.

>>96274492
>King
we already got both combat patrol and battleforce, not gonna happen

>>96274580
They had like 2 after 5e refresh
>raider
>3 bikes
>10 wyches
>10 kabalites
and
>the aircraft
>talos
>3 bikes
>20 kabalites
>archon

Saturnine dread good for a counts-as for anything marines, imperial or chaos?

>>96274589
It's just that the army lacks a discount option for its most basic unit, neophyte hybrids. The old combat patrol was pretty good for that.

>>96274612
I believe it’s a comparable scale to the Primaris Dreadnoughts, though I don’t think it has hand options, just guns.

My nipples are hard when I'm casting spells.

>>96274443
I hope the EC box has a bunch of vehicles in it and not fulgrim. I wouldnt hate having 2 fulgrims, but a demon prince or a pair of predators or something would be cooler. Definitely needs the kakophonist too

>>96274633

Is warhammer 40k still technically 28mm scale?

Also why is there a lot of “you missed the general” posting lately? We’re a shithole so it is no wonder anons want to try their hand at making their own 40k threads.

>>96274612
you can work it as a telemon but imo it's too big to count as anything else

>>96274701
>Is warhammer 40k still technically 28mm scale?
no

>>96274668
Considering Fulgrim is pretty shit and didn't sell... It's Fulgrim. I wish we could get Primarch Battleforces. I need a Magnus. I think a nice EC Battleforce would be one with a Maulerfiend, Noise Marines, Kakophonist, 10 Tormentors and Fulgrim. Would compliment the Launch Set and Combat Patrol.

I'm hoping for Magnus, Rubrics and more disc goats but I think normal CSM will get the Battleforce.

>>96274673
Oh damn, I did not realize he was that big when I asked

>>96274612
Counts as leviathan or redemptor would be accepted by most

>>96274731
magnus in a battleforce would be sick since I missed out on the 2023 one and I wanna start building a ksons army.
Maybe they could rerun the morty one too.

But yeah it'd be a nice box with a maulerfiend, but maybe wed get lucky and they put some vehicles instead of fulgrim.

>>96274769
GW are pretty happy making Battleforces lately so maybe this time we'll get something good. They usually make ones that compliment Combat Patrols and Launch Sets. I think that unless they run Primarch Battleforces it's gonna be CSM and EC probably both with Forgefiends/Maulerfiends and the CSM one with Abaddon. Also probably Eldar Battleforce, Ork Battleforce and Ad Mech. That would be my guess

Plz let it be Primarch Battleforces, come one GW you can move Guilliman again for the Loyalist Battleforce...

>>96274399
If it doesn’t have a 45-50% discount I couldn’t really give a shit if I’m going to be wholly honest with you James.

I watched 8 hours of painting guides. I'm ready. It looks easy enough.

>>96274796
I love that someone put a lot of effort into a joke mini

>>96274814
They've never ever been that discounted

>>96274840
I think it's more likely that someone put a lot of love into two subassembled minis and then just stuck them together with magnets for a funny picture

>>96274769
>Maybe they could rerun the morty one too.
NO
RERUN THE DARK IMPERIUM BATTLFORCE SO I CAN BUY A NON-FELTHIUS LORD OF CONTAGON REEEEEE

>>96274838
You aren't ready, but you can't be. You'll only ever be ready when you finally do it and learn from it. Pick up that brush and start learning.

>>96274399
>check ebay
>people selling Innner Circle Task force for 310 dollars
>mfw all the kits separately only cost 270 bucks on ebay, new
Why are they like this. Why are they not capable of understanding if it's not at a discount it's worthless to me?

>>96274838
Until you realize you need a certain texture, terrain, technical paint for your effects and you don't have it.

>>96274892
Tomorrow. I'm gonna do a big brain move and start with a hero so my first attempt gets immortalized in the upcoming thread collage.

It will be my eternal shame or joy.

>>96274909
I'm going to the GW store on saturday since it's the anniversary so I'll get what I missed there.

I so want to start a necrons army because necrons are my second favorite type of guys but I also know that doing so would be too expensive and I honestly would just pile of shame it for an embarrassing amount of time

>>96274934
Buy a Combat Patrol and play Combat Patrol games.

>>96274916
These were a lot funnier when I was underage back in 2008.

>>96274934
Necron kill team. Then it's cheap, you can sell the deathwatch, keep the tomb world terrain and have your little squad of guys run around there making robot noises (you have to make the noises yourself).

>>96274884
How about, check it
Morty AND LoC

>>96274884
>RERUN THE DARK IMPERIUM
They are so retarded. They should release the LoC sprue at least. Only thing stopping me from starting Death Guard.

I've got 10 hormagaunts, 20 termagants w/o special weapons, 5 barbgaunts and 10 genestealers - which should I get more of?

why did human AIs go murdercrazy but votann didnt

>>96274934
all armies are too expensive, either do it or dont

>>96275052
Vorann AI needed its humans to survive. It still went kind of crazy since it made the miners manlet incels.

>>96275036
my reccomendations are:
-a big nid as a neat centerpiece such as a hive tyrant or norn
-pair of mid range monsters like two exocrines, it will always be a good staple in your army
-ball out and get a squad of zoranthropes and a neurothrope to lead them

>>96275052
Humans are evolving into a psychic race. Votann aren't.
By sheer proximity, the Votann (AI) weren't exposed to psykers for a long time.

>>96275090
they are adapted to high gravity and they are chad volcels

>>96275052
Because Votanns didn't have humans to rebel against. All kyn are "clones", biological machines manufactured from designed templates and subservient to their AI masters, they're not natural humans.

>>96275100
>All kyn are "clones", biological machines manufactured from designed templates and subservient to their AI masters, they're not natural humans.
Ah. Just imagine what a perfect world it would be.

“The Bane are there; that is where I need to be. The only inefficiency is this talk, which delays my blade reaching their guts. Take me there. Or I will find one who will.”

– Buri Thrice‑devoured, negotiating transit to the heart of the Jordrunn II Swarm

>>96274268
IMO you are better off getting the glasses that magnify for miniature painting, lamp is a good choice though just make sure to use a white lightbulb instead of yellow so you aren't painting in a warmer tone filter from the bulb

>>96274399
Emperors Children with Fulgrim 100%
Space Marines 100%, probably wolves with Grimnar and Terminator focus
Dark Eldar to make way for new stock
Some Horde army as a gateway into horde armies pricing, either Guard or Admech
This makes 1 Chaos, 1 Astartes, 1 Imperium, and 1 Xenos box

>>96275135
That illustration was meant to look cool, but it reads like a tiny baby nid playing with its mom.

>>96275146
It's been five or six boxes for 40k the last several years, hasn't it?

>>96275137
Yeah the lamp is apparently bright with regulation and 3 light tones. The magnifying glass I'm not sure about but I didn't pay for it yet as I have to wait a week for it and I'll pay when I pick it up so I might change my decision. With glasses I don't know, everyplace is full of cheap shitty chink shit I have almost given up. In any case both were fairly cheap though the lamp is of good quality and company.

>>96275100
Just wait until a Votann gets infected by a genestealer patriarch and start producing cult kyn enmasse.

>>96274268
No.
Get a table-mounted magnifying glass with a lamp built in. The left magnifying class is like the size of the bottom of a cup. It's small, shitty and easy to tip over.

Humanity is as fucked as the Eldar arn't they. They are literally going to birth another chaos god and get eaten if one of the other threats doesn't beat them to the punch. Looking at you bug bois.

>>96275073
I'll do it in a year after adequately saving money, researching, and sleeping on rather or not I actually want the army or it's a fleeting weird thing. I don't wanna impulse buy so I'm waiting a few months.

>>96275187
Yeah, it has always been the fate of humanity to eventually follow in the footsteps of the Eldar just as it is the fate of the Tau to eventually follow in the fate of Humanity.

>>96274541
I thought the primer would cover it

>>96275001
What's really nuts is that last year or the year before they were re-releasing resin Dark Eldar models, and more recently models from the 1980s for warhammer fantasy, but apparently a box from 2017/2018 is too hard.
>YEAR OF CHAOS

>>96274548
Whats wrong with my highlights?

>>96275179
>Get a table-mounted magnifying glass with a lamp built in.
This is what I got and it was the trashiest thrash ever and every single fucking lamp is the fucking same and has the same complaints. I got one standing on the desk and it falls over because the glass is too heavy so I got from another brand this time mounted but according to the reviews it's gonna be 50/50 as well. I'm getting pic related delivered today. So I proactively ordered a separate light just in case and put in a order for a separate glass. I might cancel the glass but the light should be worth it. Also all of it is cheap as fuck (besides the new mounted lamp, it has a normal price)

It's all horrible shitty chink shit and I can't find anything not chink shit.

>>96275212
Try some magnifier glasses then. They come with lights and exchangeable lenses for different magnifications.
>inb4 cheap plastic
Bro so long as it works who gives a fuck.

>>96275201
They should just release the Death Guard side as a Combat Patrol and be done with it. They released parts of it separately.

>>96275170
I don't think even genestealers want to be manlets.

>>96275220
I'll look into it but reading reviews and checking available products I'm afraid it's gonna be the same shit. Also I wear glasses normally so I don't think it's gonna be optimal. Magnifying glasses are cheap as fuck as well so I think it's gonna be shit either way. Hope the glass lamp I ordered for today is at least usable so I can use it on the kitchen table for bigger models and for more space. My desk ain't that big with the PC and all.

>>96275036
Negrogaunts

>>96274106
I highly recommend getting both if you can afford it, they're both quite good, save for the intercessors maybe but they are very good kitbash fodder anyway.

>>96275146
>Emperors Children with Fulgrim 100%
Legion of Excess with Fulgrim and a bunch of old daemon models that GW is trying to move.
>Space Marines 100%, probably wolves with Grimnar and Terminator focus
Wulfen Pack with Grimnar+lots of old wulfen models
>Dark Eldar to make way for new stock
Carnival of pain with a Haemonculi and a bunch of grotesques and two taloses/chromosomes to make way for the new haemonculi stuff that comes out later.
>horde armyrino
Also space marines

>>96275221
I can only assume the artificial scarcity allows them to overcharge for the chosen of mortarion (when it's actually in stock).

>>96275285
Just release pic related with the chosen as a Combat Patrol. It would sell like hot cakes.

Redeemed Fulgrim clone as Primarch of the Sons of the Pheonix
Redeemed Magnus clone as the Primarch of the Grey Knights
Redeemed Angron clone as the Primarch of the Lamenters
Redeemed Mortarion clone as the Primarch of the Carcharodons
Redeemed Lorgar clone as the Primarch of the Exorcists
Redeemed Perturabo clone as the Primarch of the Minotaurs

>>96275297
lol

>>96275297
>Mystery Meat 18th legion build your own primarch kit with the Blood Ravens

>>96275187
Yes. That's one of the big points. The galaxy is accelerating to an end-point
>Eldar ruled for 60 million years, spawned a Chaos God, and collapsed
>Imperium has ruled for 10,000 years and are on the cusp of spawning a Chaos God, who will cause their collapse
>Tau have been around for only a few thousand years and have begun to spawn a Chaos God, which will rip their society apart and cause their collapse
It's Chaos Gods and suffering, all the way down.

>>96275313
Malibron was his scrapped name.

NEW
>>96275328
>>96275328
>>96275328

>>96275297
>Redeemed Magnus clone as the Primarch of the Grey Knights
That's LITERALLY Janus, who was already the first grandmaster/"primarch" of the grey knights.

>>96274848
The genestealer combat patrol was around there

>>96275333
Yeah that's why I put them instead of Blood Ravens

>>96275333
It's funny how GKfags try to claim everyone as their primarch.

>>96275297
this is too retarded to even comment about

>>96275343
He was literally the first grandmaster and created from merging Magnus' good soul shard with a loyalist Thousand Son you fucking retard. Don't argue about lore if you don't know it.
>inb4 it's stupid cuz it's nulore
So are primarchs in general.

>>96275343
that's literally the lore, retard

>>96275275
>bunch of grotesques
They don't put out of print resin MTO models in discount boxes.

>>96274934
Do it

>>96274580
Probably would be Drazhar, Mandrakes, a bunch of warriors and two raiders.

Then they'll get a codex that reboxes the Raider/Ravager with a third optional build and increase the price of the box $10.

Archon's Court and Beastmaster models will need to wait for a Kill Team set.

>>96275135
They really need to let someone who isn't Gav Thorpe write Votann fluff. The idea is cool but the dialogue is way too stiff.

>>96275942
In his defense I could see kin having naturally stiff dialogue. They are meant to be somewhat terse and laconic

>>96275212
A pair of 3.0 reading glasses and a headlamp.

>born in Anatolya
Mankind is led by a turk

I just watched Kill Lupercal Ep.3

So, that's how it ends? No episode 4?