Thread 96306623

I really want to build a setting with an eternal night and I'd appreciate some help.

The source of the apocalypse is vague; maybe an astronomical event or a battle between the gods. Nobody in the setting truely knows so it might be either.

Temperatures can't be too low to replace the high medieval aesthetic. Maybe the earth is no longer rotating, creating a freezing side and a scorching side. Then however people will live on a narrow twilight band in between the two areas. Not sure if I prefer that aesthetic to one with a gloomy starry night.

Crops can't grow without some alchemy but even then they are pretty limited. I'm thinking mostly a mealworm diet and shrooms for the common folk and some shroom/compost fed bacon for the rich folk. Am I missing some other food hack in a sunless world?

How else would the world be affected besides food and temp?
Should I give up on the idea or just opt for "magic night" explanation that allows an otherwise normal state of affairs. Does something similar exist?

>>96306623 (OP)
>Am I missing some other food hack in a sunless world?
There isn't one. Mushrooms don't photosynthesize, but they still require organic matter to break down. And all that organic matter's food chain goes back to the sun.

A night world is a dead world. No meal worms. No mushrooms. Nothing. Dead.

Except chemosynthesis. Which is what happens in deep sea vents. So you wanna do one that still takes plenty of bullshit? First don't: that's stupid and can't support a complex food chain. It's laughably stupid. But second? Volcanic winter. It's not night all the time. It's just that the daylight is seen through a layer of volcanic ash that's constantly snowing. So some modicum of photosynthesis still happens, and strange life has arisen that lives off volcanic snow drifts performing chemosynthesis.

That's probably your only chance for a world that isn't impossible.

>>96306623 (OP)
>hould I give up on the idea or just opt for "magic night" explanation that allows an otherwise normal state of affairs. Does something similar exist?
Blades in the Dark works like this, there's been no sun since the magical apocalypse, but somehow various types of plants do still grow

>>96306654
Yeah it's more about the aesthetic first for me and then I look how I can justify things. What about the twilight band between complete darkness and hell on earth? You can potentially get a habitable region with wacky climate.

>>96306704
Thanks I will take a look.

How about a world with receding sun. Still I assume that it comes a dead planet a lot sooner before we get a night sky type of view

>>96306623 (OP)
I prefer a "magic night" personally. But that's mainly cause of something I saw in a Japanese tabletop game that I liked.

Namely, that Dracula may have killed the Sun to spread eternal night for his children, but he didn't finish the job. And the remnants are beyond pissed and out for revenge

>>96306750
Sounds cool. Do you remember the name?

I thought about a demiurge type of god and a thief outsmarting him by stealing the sun. This is so fairy folk magic that I might as well go all in on magic.

>>96306623 (OP)
It's a fantasy setting. The less you acknowledge or address the physics of things like climate and temperature the better. It's already disturbing enough to the inhabitants of the world that the sun has gone.
If you want it to be a horror setting focusing on the desperation and inevitability of doom, you could set the story immediately after the event. It probably would take on the order of months? to reach such severely sub-freezing temperatures that life would be immediately impossible. The long-term consequences of being completely without light for months would take longer to unfold, involving much more abstract things like ecosystem collapse. If the night didn't last longer than a few months, it would just be a really weird and intense winter for most ecosystems, depending on when it's timed compared to normal winter. But at least it wouldn't end all life on the world forever.
If it's a more lasting cosmological change and without the concern of realistic physics and biology, then it wouldn't be that significant. In a few centuries, cultures would already be adjusted to the new reality as everyone who remembered the sun would be generations long dead and only their writings would remain. In a medieval setting, very very few people are even literate. "The sun" would be a mythological character in fireside tales and things your granny insists her grandpappy saw once upon a time.
In that way, "eternal night" just becomes a wonky factoid about your setting for players to constantly bonk into.
So you need a really compelling story literally all about that specific thing which directly involves those specific characters.

>>96306777
Dracorogue is the name of the game. And yes, it's a game about vampire knights trying to retain their humanity, but they've also got fairies, pissed off ghosts, twisted former bretheren, and doomsday cultists who worship the the Sun Dragon to deal with
It's pretty cool

>>96307013
*Dracurouge, sorry. I keep getting the u and o mixed up. But I'm making this addendum to note that there's a fan translation of the pdfs out there for those interested

>>96306654
>And all that organic matter's food chain goes back to the sun.
Don't a lot of deep-sea ocean creatures rely more on volcanic faults for sustenance than the sun?

>>96307721
nevermind im an idiot, ignore me.

>>96307721

Yeah but percentage or not theoretically you could posit some sort of chemiosyntesis (probably more akin to Movile Cave than black smokers - read about it, shit is basically a real life lost world). Which might be interesting for some underdark WB I guess, so there might be some value in your question.

Problem is:
1) it would be hilariously less efficient than photosyntesis
2)... and mody surely waaaaaay more localized than plant life on Earth
3),... and possibly toxic to humans
4)... and anyway without a modicum of heat you're gonna have a snowball, not oceans or forests.

Mindflayers, vampires or some other sunlight-fearing enemy set up massive factories to block out the sun with smoke so that they could take over the surface. Gloomy, but not starry. The PCs can take back the surface by blowing up the factories.

>>96306623 (OP)
If it's magic anyway, what if the sun's light was stolen but not its warmth and photosynthesis-activating emissions?

>>96306623 (OP)
You're going to have to put in other sources of light to allow photosynthesis. Something like fireflies that produce sunlight that people then capture and breed so they can be used in farming.

>>96306623 (OP)
>OP creates thread because his partial autism is stopping him truly understanding what fantasy is and just fully accepting the "magic night" option
>all the full-blooded autists come crawling out of the woodwork to give explanations for him to avoid using the "magic night" option
Fuck sake guys, I can only see a couple of you actually saying it's magic, he ain't got to explain shit, but most of you are like this non-breakfast-easting-retard >>96308813 saying you HAVE to have photosynthesis.

It's fucking fantasy, he doesn't need photosynthesis at all. It could be a world where plants grow because the god of earth got infected by a celestial seed, and now "parasites" (all plants) spring up wherever the earth is visible to the sky, because they want to return home. Boom, plants still possible in a sunless setting. Done. One easy possibility of many just shat out on a keyboard for you unimaginative bastards.

Fuck, I hate what /tg/ has become.

The earth's core is a sun. All plants receive energy from it.

>>96309320

Lurk more.

>>96309332
The deeper you go, the more vibrant life is, because they receive more energy form the core sun.
The surface of the earth only receives a minuscule amount, which is why all life there is normal sized.

>>96309338
Been lurking for over a decade, redditspacing newfag. I just know what this place used to be.

>>96309398
The you also ought to see and know what it is now.

And how no one appreciates your "back in my youth" shtick.

You old fuck.

>>96309585
>The you also ought to see and know what it is now.
That's why I said:
>Fuck, I hate what /tg/ has become.
You idiot ESL cunt.

I'm currently playing through a video game with eternal night.
The plants in that world have the ability to create a race of light-humans called Illuminators to shine for them.
The sun in the setting is just one mighty illuminater that has to rest for half a day and even then she can only do it for a certain radius.
But then it turns out the first half of the game was just a dream and the real world is even more fucked. The girl that was the sun died 300 years ago.

>>96307832
>starry. The PCs can take back the surface by blowing up the factories
I like that. Changes the tone to a steampunk / industrial setting where the enemis are the big corpos literally draining the blood and light from the world. I might steal it for another setting

>>96309320
lol it's called suspension of disbelief.
If I have levitation magic that doesn't mean gravity should exist or be addressed right? If someone falls out of a 10 story window can he just walk it off because it's fantasy? Sure, but it will take you out of the story.

If the sun is stolen by magic means, there should be explanation as to how everything else still functions and society changes around that. Or, it can go the route >>96308134 suggsted where only the visual was stolen.

>>96309332
>>96309347
What if the earth cracked during the apocalypse, creating giant shafts going down to the planet's core? Will this release enough heat to preserve life in some radius around it or keep the entire planet from freezing for the next millenia or so?

This will create pockets of civillizations and trade routes along the cracks and a freezing wildreness everywhere else.

Will also boil the see at certain spots creating some intersting sea lore.

>>96310013
>If I have levitation magic that doesn't mean gravity should exist or be addressed right?
You don't even need to have gravity, you can just say the world is flat and constantly moving upwards, that's why everyone gets stuck to the ground, and levitation magic just makes you move up faster than the world.
>If someone falls out of a 10 story window can he just walk it off because it's fantasy? Sure, but it will take you out of the story.
Bullshit. Plenty of games, stories, and films involve characters surviving what should be fatal incidents, but they don't pull anyone out of the story.
>If the sun is stolen by magic means, there should be explanation as to how everything else still functions and society changes around that.
And no explanation HAS to involve existing science.
>Or, it can go the route >>96308134 suggsted where only the visual was stolen.
That's one possibility.

Your issue seems to be you don't grasp what's being said. My point was you don't need to restrict yourself by forcing everything to fit a scientific worldview. It's fantasy, the sun can be a giant eyeball, atoms don't even need to exist, dreams can be in a physical place, it's up to you. Getting tied up in bullshit about how things might still function scientifically in a fantasy setting is just pure autism.

>>96310013
> lol it's called suspension of disbelief.
Yes, and yours seems to be shockingly low. Like, to super autism levels

>>96309320
>>96310053
>My point was you don't need to restrict yourself by forcing everything to fit a scientific worldview.
Then try making productive suggestions instead of whining that other people didn't make the ones you would. Dipshit.

>>96306623 (OP)
Perhaps the night is something people don't really understand--like the light has changed from the human visible spectrum. The Sun is now black, and looking at it still hurts the eyes, because the light is still there, but it is now invisible.

People still sunburn, maybe they call it Starburn now. The heat of the light is still there, but it isn't visible. Plants still grow, but without the intuitive presence of light it is harder to work out where to plant them. Superstitions form around how the stars were always the force that actually did all of these things, the sun was just there for the benefit of sight and is now gone.

>>96310139
I already did, you dumb fuck. You literally quoted me giving a suggestion. Stop being an idiot all your life.

>>96310363
>Throws massive fits
>Wonders why no one read his entire post
Next time try it without spending a paragraph throwing a fit, if you want anyone to read your post?

>>96310053
>And no explanation HAS to involve existing science.
obstructing celestial body, commet collided with moon chaging its course to just the right (wrong) trajectory, it's now permanent solar eclipse

>>96309320
Having something like the fireflies makes it so that sunlight is available but is a valuable and at least semi-scarce resource which enables story elements such as fighting to steal/protect this precious resource as well as the power on those who have possess said resource in substantial amounts. It serves multiple purposes not just to provide an explanation. If you're too stupid to arrive at that conclusion on your own then I don't know what to tell you other than you're a fucking retard and you should probably keep your dumbass opinions to yourself.

>>96310378
Oh, I get it, when you've been shown to be a retard, just pretend who you're replying to is "throwing a fit" to distract from you being a retard. Nice try, but it didn't work. I'll highlight where you fucked up again: >>96310139

>>96310053
I'm sorry but it seems you don't seem to understand. I already mentioned in the op I can go the "magic" route. I know I can and you are not adding anything to the discussion by saying again and again how I don't need to explain stuff because "fantasy".

I am interested to hear from people, who are into world building, how something like this might work. Because I prefer to have consistent logic in my setting as opposed to not having it.

You almost seem to understand:
>You don't even need to have gravity, you can just say the world is flat and constantly moving upwards,
Exactly. That is one explanation for the behavior we call gravity in another world. You didn't say "don't talk about gravity who cares" but instead you gave a reason why a flat earth behaves similarly to what we know. That is what i'm looking for. Saying "fuck photosynthesis" is like saying "fuck gravity" - you CAN do it, but I assume you understand why one might like to think about it carefully before deciding on it.

>>96310490
I didn't read the rest of your post past your throwing a fit, anon. Sorry, I guess? Maybe post better.

>>96310593
Guaranteed even with your limited attention-span you did read it, you're now just being a little bitch because you got shown up. Back to your embarrassing post I guess >>96310139

>>96310569
>I'm sorry but it seems you don't seem to understand.
Despite multiple posts of me fairly clearly demonstrating I do... sounds like you're just looking to defend your autism and pushing it on me. Not my problem, dude, you struggle along if that's what you really want.

>>96310611
You "guarantee" that the reason I didn't know what was in your post after the whining is because I did read it?

Anon take a break.

>>96310709
I guarantee you read it but you're too much of a retard to have understood it, hence your embarrassing failure and now pretending to not have read it. Either option, you're still a little bitch and you still fucked up >>96310139

>>96310719
That's an interesting theory, anon. What other conspiracies center around you?

>>96310732
Currently in this thread, these two:
You're an idiot loser that fucked up and won't admit it.
You're desperately trying to distract from your fuck up with irrelevant shitposts, but here it is again >>96310139

>>96310743
>You're an idiot loser that fucked up and won't admit it.
Anon admit what? I already stated that you're right: I didn't read the rest of your post past the angry screed.

>>96310852
>being this incapable of understanding what's happening
>being this useless and repetitive
Wow, it too me far too long to realise you're the furfag from the other thread. Get fucked.

The Sun became the Moon.

>>96309707
Nobody cares grandpa.

>>96311021
And yet here you are, proving you do.

Man, I can't wait until school starts back up and all the kids have stuff to do other than post here.

>>96306623 (OP)
I mean without a sun you dot get gravitational forces and therefore you dont get a magnetic field and therefore no atmosphere and a whole slew of other stuff that are fundamental to the way our planet functions.
SO no it cant be done in a hard sci-fi way. You will have to pull the magic excuse.
Now if you want a semblance of realism on the surface and a whole slew of things that dont make sense below, treat it the same way you would treat an underdark/underground campaign in terms of fauna/flora and maybe your players wont look to hard into it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP0_8J7uxhs

This song plays on repeat probably.

"I, I live among the creatures of the night"

Strictly speaking, you don't need the Sun to grow plants, you just have to supply heat and the light with the correct wavelengths. You could set up big greenhouses to feed the population, probably powered by magic if you're at medieval-ish tech level.
Everything outside would be dead, though.

>>96309585
Those who do not know history are doomed to experience its mistakes. And deserve the consequences.

>>96312145
Yeah, maybe we'd have fewer passive-aggressive cowards bitching vaguely in the wind.

>>96311047
>yet you participate in society, curious...

>>96309320
You are an utter moron.
>>96309398
Definitely lurk more then, flatliner.

>>96306623 (OP)
It's a real shame that no one in the thread brought up Arx Fatalis yet. I know it's /v/, but it's a world without sun which is exactly what OP wants. Only difference is that it's all underground because the lack of the sun's warmth.

It also gives OP a great reason for why there's no sun in the sky of this world, huge cloud of stellar debris passing between the planet & the sun. Of course having a tidally locked world without a sun wouldn't produce a scorching side, but you probably knew that already. I too like the idea of starry nights over endless twilight.

>>96316540
Here's your (You), pathetic loser.

>>96306623 (OP)
>Asteroid hits the planet causing a drastic shift in the angle of rotation and precession of the planet, resulting in a region of perpetual night, a region of perpetual sunlight and an narrow band along the equator where things are more or less normal
>Fast forward hundreds or thousands of years, the impact crater is mostly covered by an ocean, things have stabilized, new cultures emerged, people are hardly aware of the cataclysmic change
>The equator has a healthy enough ecosystem to allow nutriens to trickle into the region of perpetual night

Photosynthesis isn't everything. Life still spreads to seemingly barren regions, water allows for fast dispersion of nutriens etc. So they could eat fish, birds, fungus, insects, or make up your own stuff like parasitic plants with thick juicy roots.

>>96320869
You are being dunked on in two threads – wake the fuck up.
Please fuck off, flatliner. Niggers like you poisoned this board.

>>96320910
Sad to see you fall into such delusions. Here's another (You) to justify your existence a little longer.

>>96320615
Arx is great but I don't recall how it handles underground agriculture and how plants/animals survive in these conditions.

Forgotten Realms has a nice explanation of faezress - a magical "radioactive" stone that produces radiation which plants (and some adapted animals) can feed on just like the sun. Even better, actually, since faezress can introduce magical auras to creatiures and things.

>>96306654
This. None of it works without magic.
Prepare to up the magic level or handwave it and hope your players don't look too deep.

Just say something vague like the god of the Sun is dead, but not the god of crops and harvests.

>>96306623 (OP)
There's already The Vast in the Dark
You can find a link in the latest share thread

>>96306623 (OP)
>How else would the world be affected besides food and temp?

Weather patterns will be super fucked up. There will be giant, very powerful weather cells, overpowering near the terminator but probably very strong over much of the planet.

You don't have to overthink it if you don't want to, but having strong winds all the time makes it creepy, and having them get stronger as you move towards the terminator is nice because you're trading one problem (darkness) for another (wind). They also give a reason why all of civilization isn't just clustered along the terminator.

Also of course, the sunny side if going to be incredibly dry. The flipside is that the dark side will be quite wet. If you want, it can basically be a dark and stormy night 24/7, which might contribute to the vibes you're looking for.

>>96309320
Hear, hear! I hate sciencefags, their incessant quibbling sucks so much of the wonder out of fantasy. They can't accept magic existing without a rigid predetermined framework, they can't handle themes and substance taking precedence over nitpicking and navelgazing, and they can't accept things being as they are. Material science as per our earth is fine, sure, but it's only one possible paradigm amid a sea of possibilities and there's nothing intrinsically sacred about it, let alone enough to make it the default assumption. "Let's make wizards programmers", fucking tedious.

>>96322648
The habitable zone will likely be more on the sunny side, not straight at the terminator, thanks to the winds; you'll get cold air constantly flowing from the dark side cooling the surface.
But it would be incredibly dry everywhere. Any water on the sunny side will evaporate, the hot air will move to the dark side at high altitude, any moisture will turn into snow, and that's that. It won't evaporate again, so you'll end up with a hot desert on the sunny side and cold desert on the dark side. There just won't be any meaningful atmospheric moisture after a while.

>>96322634
I can't find the Share Thread or it's dead again.
Could you post the direct file link?

>>96322678
I agree but I don’t mind some systemization, maybe read different natural theories the ancient Greeks came up with to get your head out of the vice grip of interpreting everything through modern science

>>96323444
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Yeah you can just make something up, OP.
As long as shit like gravity, time, water, atmosphere, etc all work like we're used to it'll be possible for the players to enjoy the setting. The reasons aren't important unless your players want to try to undo it or something.

There are people who think "It's fantasy there's dragons and elfs shit doesn't need to make sense!" and to them I say nay. Humans like fantasy because it is relatable and connectable.

>>96306654
Why there's no photosynthesis from sunlight reflected by the moon?

>>96323934
Thank you, kind anon!
I will use this in my underground aztec vampires game.

>>96324014
Earth's moon, which is huge, sends so little energy to Earth compared to the sun that it's basically a rounding error. It's something like 0.0000025% as much.

>>96325622
Forgot to mention, you can multiply that by 8 if the moon is a perfect mirror.

0.00002%, now.

>>96325622
>>96325628
Yes, exactly. Now there are some plants to respond to moonlight but for the vast majority it's far too little to survive.

But here's an idea:
>Sun God gets eaten/killed/whatever
>World plunged into eternal darkness
>Moon goddess decides to save world
>Provides 10x as much moonlight before
>But not every day or night
>War in the Heavens between Moon Goddess and God of Darkness/Undeath/whichever
>Plants, animals, humans adapt to eternal twilight

So here's what I'm thinking:
Magic Sun that sends more Holy Solar Energy (this is also a 'divine' power source for certain cultist casters) than ours. Multiple satellite bodies that catch and reflect different percentages of that energy (because multiple moons are cool) allows for rudimentary and low level photosynthesis. Enough to get Players to accept it and move on.
It also facilitates something like seasons where the phases of the moons result in more or less moonlight. Can also do cool shit like a prophecy of them all going dark like a total lined up Eclipse.
Particular Magic Plants have flourished in the dark and a new ecosystem of Monsters have evolved around that like an Olm Dragon, Giant Bats growing because for a while they become apex predators while everything else adjusted to the change, Anglerfish Krakens sinking ships and eating sharks and whales. I'd do a lot of new bio-luminescence too actually. Slimes and Jellies lighting up, Beholder things floating around shining spotlight rays from some eyes scanning the ground below for prey.
This is actually a good setting for strong Aberration representation I think.

>>96306623 (OP)
>I really want to build a setting with an eternal night and I'd appreciate some help.
No, you can figure all this out by yourself. Just lockscreen the part of you that needs the math to make sense. You're here to storytell, not write a fictional treatise.

>The source of the apocalypse is vague
Good.

>Temperatures can't blah blah blah gloomy starry night.
Answered your own question. Make the moon bigger if you need to.

>Crops can't grow right
Dealing with that sounds like a story hook.

>How else would the world be affected besides food and temp?
You're the writer, you tell us.

>Does something similar exist?
Yes, the Nightlands series.

>>96306623 (OP)
there is an island in my homebrew setting, way out in the middle of a big ocean like hawaii, except about the size of montana or germany, and further north, about parallel with where washington state would be on earth

it is populated by a race of elves, and it has a magical effect over the whole island that leaves it in permanent night, being twilight at the edges of the island along its shores

the sun is visible during the "day", but its basically just a second paler/softer moon and doesnt add to the overall light
plants still do photosynthesis, though it is cooler than it would otherwise be during the "day", but not any colder at "night"

its magic; you dont have to figure out the science or if its realistic or not

How about orbit time = rotation time, meaning one side is always facing sun while the other never does (similar to how our moon-to-earth setup works).
Which means both sides are unlivable and only narrow belt between them is suitable for long term survival.

>>96322678
Truly.

>>96306623 (OP)
Does it have to be an apocalypse? Consider a type of star that radiates light in all wavelengths except the visible, for example. Of course in that case, living things would not have evolved eyes that rely on that part of the spectrum, since there wouldn't be any selection pressure. Also, it's unclear how the sky would appear to a being with eyes that see in wavelengths below or above the visible spectrum, it may not be something that we can visualize, describe, or comprehend, so not workable for a game.

Going more fantastical, perhaps the planet's sun (if there is one), radiates "night" instead of light, and life uses night energy to live. Up to you how you want to interpret that.

Perhaps there is no sun at all, and all life relies on starlight for sustenance. If the average energy usage of living things is vastly lower than on Earth, this could work. You could, for example, decide that the fundamental constants that determine the energies involved in forming and breaking chemical bonds are different, so that a human in this universe doesn't require nearly as much energy to live as one in ours, but they still consume about the same amount of food by mass, etc. In other words, all the ratios are the same, making the macroscopic stuff similar and the player-facing facts easy to understand, but the absolute values are different.

>>96322678
Thinking is fun in and of itself, and is more rewarding and wondrous than anything you can imagine.

>>96337112
>Thinking is fun in and of itself
If only sciencefags would actually do so, rather than constantly limiting themselves.

>>96316536
Are you implying that you are somehow forced to post on /tg/ and reply to anon, just as we are forced to exist within society to live? Yours must be one terrifying shithole.

>>96310013
>okay, so, the world is under a permanent night, right, and it's still a big myst--
>HOW DO THE PLANTS GROW

you might be actually autistic, not meme autistic

>>96340818
You mean unlimiting themselves.

>>96342126
No, I mean limiting themselves. If you can only think in one way, you're obviously limited.

>>96342136
All ways, rather.

>>96309320
This
Or just forget the science fags altogether and make it a more strange, reality bending story with elements of cosmic horror.
Not just eternal night, but other strange phenomena. Something subtle but sinister People acting strangely, forgetting things, time seeming to be stuck or move backwards every now and then. Somehow society still functions. Some people are more aware of the change than others. Some seem to think it's a normal night and the sun went down a few hours ago. Others trying to adapt. People forming factions to exploit it, others to figure out wtf is going on etc. Strange cults appear. Religious authorities preach repentance.

>>96342147
No, now you're just being a boring retard.

>>96342478
tbf starting with something sorta-plausible and filling in the parts which don't work with magic can be a very fruitful approach. Consider the following:

>Rogue planet formed from a star heir to countless ever-higher metallicity forebears. Ejected from that old and crowded neighbourhood by a sister-system's birth pangs it now roams the frigid void kept warm by radioactive decay (the whole thing is supercritical in the depths).
How'd that unlikely mix of fissiles occur? Why isn't life sterilised? Do geomancers really govern plate tectonics by Schrodinger's catting supercritical mases below? Are there precursors from previous ever-more-metallic suns encoded into patterns of decay or is that just a hallucination born from staring at spicy rocks too long?

>Orbiting a black hole with barely any accretion disc to speak of (and shine like day) despite the planet sitting right next to it.
The planet was brought here or else the black hole made, which? Are the intermittent beams shining forth around the dark lens intended to be energy transfer, communication or an attack? Why do old tales speak of another world that "fell into the sky"? Are they still out there?

>Dark side of a tidally locked world, everyone's on the night side because the day and even terminator is a solar wind-soured hell.
How has the atmosphere clung on? If the aurorae would fade when the world spins are they the hands holding it in place? Will the mirrors facing the Sun ever see us in enough detail that that spiteful god might inflict Day upon us?

>>96342478
Well said. The video game Skald: Against The Black Priory does this very well. Everything in that game feels wrong, like a corpse plunging towards deep fathoms.

>>96309320
>saying you HAVE to have photosynthesis.
It's ultimately just flavor, anon. You can just as easily say that fireflies feasted on the corpse of a the dead sun god and gained the ability to spread his light. Same end result, the technicalities are only relevant in so much as how fucking nerdy the NPC doing the loredumping is or how naggy the player asking for an explanation for local logistics is.

>>96306623 (OP)
Sounds like the underdark from the forgotten realms but on the surface

>>96346394
We're not even talking NPCs or players, though. The issue is the supposed GM getting caught up in trying to scientifically rationalise a fantasy setting, creating a problem where there doesn't need to be one. People are making the mistake of thinking they need to justify everything with an autistic-level of scientific dogma, then having to reach out for help to make it fit, when it's quite literally fantasy.