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>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
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https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
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https://mtg.design
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https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ
Would you cut a land for Tithe?

>>96314566 (OP)
No, because I'd rather just run a plains.

>>96314566 (OP)
>Would you cut a land for Tithe?

Yes. I love Tithe.

>>96314566 (OP)
>TQ
Yes, under the logic of
>I'd almost never keep a one lander
>I may or may not keep a two lander
>I would always keep one white source + tithe

>>96314566 (OP)
Id rather just play land tax

>TQ
>Would you cut a land for Tithe?
Garbage TQ but oddly relevant to a deck I was looking at. I wanted to do azorius land fuckery, sacrificing my own lands, getting them back from grave etc, searching Plains to hand to discard them and recover them, and I was very disappointed that so many of the azorius cards that do anything with lands are old and have never been reprinted. Fuckin' sucks

what about this

>>96314589
Why not both? If you're playing mono white, or non-green, you want as much redundant ramp/land draw you can get.

>TQ
No. Not even a question. Do I want to play a land, or do I want to pay 1 to be able to put a land into my hand, with the chance to a land drop for next turn IF I'm already behind? Know what would help me not be behind? By playing one more land.
Unless you are doing something where you want a lot of lands in hand, never worth running.

Does Mairsil the Pretender even work anymore? It's rulings say that when the ability you've copied references the original card by it's own name, you treat it as though it says Mairsil's name. But nothing says it's own name anymore, it's all "this creature" etc etc. Obviously that usually doesn't make a mechanical difference, and for creatures it's fine, but for example, Cryptic Coat says "this equipment" Mairsil isn't an equipment. I would hope that that text is changed to "this creature", but there's nothing in Mairsil's rulings and I can't think of what rule would cover this.

>>96314597
how about neither? they'd triple my deck's cost

Wanna see a shit deck that somehow my pod will still find a way to complain about?
Bam.
https://archidekt.com/decks/15240242/boros_vroom

>>96314597
White's catch up ramp is good enough I'd only really run a few of the best. That one angel that searches for a one drop or a plains from Edge Of Eternities doubles up well as a plains grabbed or a Weathered Wayfarer searcher.

>>96314605
Fair enough.

>>96314617
Tithe IS one of the best though. It forms the holy trinity along with Land Tax and Weathered Wayfarer.

Better TQ:
What do you think of Swordfag or Swordfag decks?

>>96314654
>>96314591
>90% of first posts about the TQ
>"BAD TQ CAUSE IT DOESN'T REFERENCE SCHIZO ANON"
get fukt shitposters, we're discussing magic in here.

>>96314566 (OP)
when in doubt cut a land

>>96314632
Eh fair enough and I agree with two of those at least. Though I'd usually rather an Archaeomancer's Map than Tithe myself.

>home

I miss the simpler less OP cards. This block is comfort food.

My Whip Silk finally arrived in the mail, so after some extremely disappointing performances, Legolas mono green fight tribal has taken on an enchantress control shell.

It's still a bit bricky, but much less so now that it has consistent forms of card advantage. You've got a lot of one-mana enchants that replace themselves which you can slap onto creatures to trigger Legolas and later recoup for card draw.

Still has unbelievable amounts of difficulty closing out games, but it should be better at not burning out like this.

Left cards are maybe board. Really feeling the lack of utopia sprawl which this deck would love.

>target opponent
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

>>96314691
Sweet. Thanks for posting this. Do you have a decklist we could look at to help?

Either way, I appreciate you sticking to a theme and trying to make it work as best as possible. Spirit of the format.

>>96314697
>artifact dies

>>96314666
Uh, no. Bad because it's insanely narrow and might as well read "is this card good???"
Not what TQs are for.

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

>>96314697
It's basically this but worse and gains life instead of just draining. Absolutely should hit all opponents.

>>96314598
That's like saying if cryptic coat somehow removed its subtype it can no longer bounce itself; the foundations change was purely for simplification
And you cant put there "return this card" because cards dont exist on the battlefield and definitely not "return this thing", unncessarily creating a term
So that's why we have "this card type" instead and yes, mairsil still works

>>96314704
I don't really keep Moxfield lists. Half the reason I photograph them is for posterity in case I feel like throwing the deck together in the future.

The maybe board is just vibes anyway. I don't think the deck gets marginally better with anything on that list beyond maybe Titania's Song (which would tempt me perhaps to cut the equipment package and slot in Null Rod, Collector Ouphe, Root Maze) but that's really a meta call. I don't encounter too many oppressive artifact decks.

>>96314743
Are you retarded? It's literally Blood Artist

>>96314759
Are you? Blood artists doesn't work with artifacts, literally.

>>96314752
You should post them online. It's hard for others to critique your deck when we have to look at blurry text and can't sort the deck in the way we want to give it proper analysis.

>Play gary
>suck 15 off each player
>Someone destroys him
>cast no dead after all and suck 15 off each player again
This fucker should be a gamechanger

>>96314761
So it's better than blood artist?

>>96314772
>it only took 13 other black pips on my board AND a recursion spell to do 30 damage
lmao

>forgot to pick the 4 drop atraxa for my praetor deck
>head to tcg player to snag a copy
>read her typing closely for the first time
i genuinely never fucking noticed this one doesnt have phyrexian in her type, it honestly fucking threw me off so much

>no subject name
Oh my fucking God.

>2024
>get my friends to get me the gencon dragonshields
>finally have a deck i want to use them with
>they are the worst sleeves I've played with since those that come with pokemon product

I love this little bastard like you wouldn't believe.

>>TQ
>Would you cut a land for Tithe?

No.

>>96314855
What's so bad about them?

https://moxfield.com/decks/DAhte3U86EabbqFWkCMDmg

What should I cut for the Icetill Explorer Mr mailman brought me today? I'm thinking Anara, Tamiyo's Safekeeping, a mana dork or poopoo ufo.

>>96314860
quality control has gone to absolute shit

>>96314897
Holy shit, DEI ruined dragonshield too fml

>>96314903
bros help me the DEI is in my shower

>>96314855
Always have been. Just use hard plastic top loaders. They shuffle as well as dragon shields.

>>96314903
Is... this "DEI" in the room with us right now?

>>96314923
ive literally never had an issue with dragon shields, even just the basic color sleeves and they have the best oversleeves on the market way better then kmc or ultimate guard

>>96314654
>Swordfag
I don't particularly like him, but I also don't really dislike him. He isn't funny, but he isn't cancer.
>Swordfag decks
Some look interesting, some are just "look at how expensive my bad deck can be".

>>96314897
holy fuck, this is unreal

>>96314632
>weathered wayfarer
Do people still play this

i really hope we get an elden ring set

>>96314971
Maybe if Elden Ring's lore wasn't an utter and complete mess.

>>96314971
>no ability to take control over enemy creatures

>>96314918
>>96314926
It's in the government policy that controls you, so technically yes, though not literally. I know I need to clarify that for you autistic redditors out there.

>>96314977
what does that have to do with anything. we got a fucking dr who and assassins creed set

>>96314903
>>96314923
This is the only bad set of them I have
I usually buy them by the case.
There's nothing like having all of your games sleeved up.

>>96314965
He gets better and better as years go by and more broken lands are printed.

>>96314926
YES

Show me your hidden tech for the the Mole bro.

>>96315007
anything that says he has First Strike. You're welcome.

>>96314855
Oh theres another twist
>got burned on dragon shield
>need sleeves for tomorrow
>small asian shop next to one of my customers
>only carries pic related
>try them
>also shuffles like shit
Ahhhhh!

>>96314691
Argothian Enchantress?

>>96315007
Rancor

>>96314691
>gargos but gay

>>96314989
If you say so, I dont play bad cards.

>>96314980
Government policy is far right.

>>96314934
Shuffle katanas and then shuffle dragon shields. One shuffles infinitely easier than the other. Which is why I always prefer katanas.
There have been talks about Dragon shields having quality issues. Even Prof noted it in one of his product reviews.

>>96315007
Only if you're a gigachad.

>>96315039
Corporate policy is DEI and ESG tax credits, and many US states still maintain their DEI bullshit policies, especially Washington state and WotC.

Dragon shields are more hardy. They split far less than ultimate guard sleeves. Ultimate guard also has its issues such as the white color having issues with double sleeving (may have just been a batch they did but I have two packs of white sleeves that don't fit with an inner sleeve)

>>96315017
It's like 40 bucks or it'd be in here. Lamentably I pulled one ages ago out of an EMA pack but it was worthless back then so I traded it away.
>>96315025
I'm sorry anon we've been over this I will not play your hydra that costs 8 if he's removed one time

>>96315047
Not anymore lmao. Keep up with society. Some of you people never evolve your view on the world from like 2014.

>>96315049
/tg/ when someone uses proxies
>WTF UNCREATIVE LOSER REEE YOU'RE ARMS RACING
/tg/ when someone posts a deck missing some 50 dollar staple that would fit in it
>Bro? Your 50-500 dollar staple?

>>96315051
Yes anymore. DEI is still going strong, controlled by Blackrock, State Street and Vanguard. Please stop talking authoritatively about things you have zero understanding of, chudley.

>>96314918
Just tell them 522-316=206 and watch their heads explode

>>96315039
>far right.
Fucking redditors bro

>>96315055
/tg/ isn't one person

>>96314566 (OP)
>TQ
I cut a basic in my Noyan-Dar deck because it can grab dual Plains Island lands

>>96315043
i tried katanas when they first came out but only picked them up in JP size, but at least for my experience i havent had a bad pack of dragon shields and ive been buying them for years, and they genuinely have the best oversleeves on the market, no sleeves feel better to shuffle, every game i play except magic i double sleeve since i dont wanna fuck up my expensive weeb sleeves or alts

>>96315067
consensus exists and you need to explain how sometimes the thread has 0 proxies supporters and 100% anti-proxy despite not being one person and being active at the time.

>>96314810
They only started adding Phyrexian to Phyrexian cards (not just the Praetors) at MoM. A friend dropped a newer Thrummingbird a few days ago that had it as a creature type while mine from Masters 15 doesn’t have it. They’re just retroactively adding it now whenever they do reprints and I don’t think OG Atraxa has gotten one post MoM yet.

I took apart all of my decks.

>>96315094
>consensus exists
a consensus implies multiple people

>>96314971
We almost certainly will at some point. Would have liked a Dark Souls one but that ship is long gone.

Is there ever a world where playing this doesn't backfire spectacularly on your ass?

>>96315116
Yes if 90% believe one thing then it is retarded to go "N-NOT ONE PERSON" to imply multiple view points where none existed.

>>96315094
>I need to explain how some times during the day, all across the world, people have different opinions
I think you may just be an idiot

>>96315125
>all these people mysteriously come at the same time
You should just say it's a samefag as that'd actually make sense.

>>96315055
Yeah, I never build my deck with proxies. It's much more interesting to make do. This deck for example would love Legolas's Quick Reflexes, but I'm not about to shell out $35 for that either. It'd be lame if I just proxied it; other people would do the same and we'd all be running the "best possible version" of our decks instead of decks particular to us.

It's way more satisfying to build with what I have and order cheap cards.

>>96315123
>90% believe one thing
you pulled this number out of your ass, but I kinda get where you're coming from? Think about it like this.
If 4 anons are shitting about proxies being for fags, why would 1 pro-proxy person even get involved instead of wait for discussion they actually want to be a part of?

He's back after his retarded schizo melty last thread to have another schizo melty because he doesn't understand something that is common knowledge and basic understanding to the rest of us!
See you guys in 18 hours.

>>96315044

I raise you.

What is the highest average mana value you boys have ran in a deck? Think lowest I've seen was like a 2.3 and I'm pretty sure highest I saw was like a 4.2

>>96315146
All of my decks are between 2-3 average cmc

>>96315122
When it's a part of a fun deck for people to have big splashy games with. That and Urza's Filter are both in my Nekusar deck

>>96315106
Even THE ONE?!

>>96315146
Volrath voltron/reanimator was pretty high. Running Draco and Shadow or Mortality alone for one shotting purposes drove it way up.

>>96315094
I dont always weigh in but I am in this thread 24/7 and am a big advocate for proxying before purchasing and proxying in general
I dont always weigh in but im here

>>96315106
What are you going to build now? You've got your whole collection available. Sounds like a fun problem to have.

>>96315137
I would tolerate any amount of spergfighting if it cause you to fuck off forever and stop crying about “schizos” and “melties” every time someone says something you don’t like

>>96315122
Infamous moxnix storm card

>>96314965
It can grab *any* land card. This includes things that see tourney play such as Cradle or channel lands.

>>96314965
It's meta in Japan cEDH.

>>96315049
is giggling skitterspike out of budget too? seems strong here

>>96315101
i saw that this one had it so i was really fucking confused, atleast shes the last card i need to pickup

>>96315182
>Don't call me out for what I am
Sorry bud, change your behavior if you don't want it to be obvious.
31
200
You're a joke.

>>96315201
Oh shit I didn't even know that card existed. idk if I want to order it for five bucks but you're right that'd be great. This deck has a severe lack of actual wincons.

>>96315206
>”someone on 4chan disagreed with me? Impossible! SCHIZO! SCHIZO EVERYBODY! WE GOT A SCHIZO! UH OH MELTY! ARENT SCHIZOS ANNOYING, EVERYBODY? AM I RIGHT? WHY CANT THEY JUST BE NOT ANNOYING LIKE ME, RIGHT?
Literally how you sound

>>96314683
I think you and I were the only ones to like it.

>>96315250
>Continuing to behave the exact same way he always does.
Gonna post your sleep app next?
You got caught. Cope.

Post irl decks. Anons rate your deck and suggest potential cool cards for them.

gruulsisters.... not like this....

>>96315296
Ill post my bad mono white enchant list in a bit

>>96315298
what an odd note to include

>>96315296
Might have time at lunch to post my Sisay / Karametra deck and/or my Lyse Hext Spellsling Voltron. I would post Vivi but he’s literally just full of the one and two mana ‘do thing, draw card(s)’ spells

>>96315296
Sure, why not. Playtests have been pretty neat.

>>96315298
I’ve had a few card purchases off of individual sellers on eBay do the same thing in the past (mainly around 2021-22). Never bought anything from them again but I also don’t know why people feel the need to do this.

>>96315335
Is this pretty much all FF cards? If so, it's fucking based. If you're trying to mix other sets into it, then I'd be very careful about that. Keep that Tidus FFX flavor above all else. Bant is a great color combo for that game.

>>96315298
>Hello pavel
>didn't make a bane joke
Truly terrible

>>96315335
Still fucking furious this precon got good removal and ramp cards on top of being synergistic while the FF7 one has green in it but outside Cultivate does fuck-all with ramp and feels like a random bunch of random cards thrown together. As for upgrades, Time Mage, Chasm Skulker, and the C15 Ezuri probably wouldn’t be amiss in this deck. Could also probably put in a few other proliferate cards too.

>>96315007
Youre welcome

>win 3 games yesterday
>win 3 games today
>get a sephiroth/zeno combo kill
>kefka dancing mad 10x trigger
>gy landfall precon

Like they get so salty but I’m not running crazy shit, no free counters, no game changers. The mardu player board wiped 3 times in the last game, and was getting pissy when I strip mined his command tower to stop an ultimatum.

>>96315354
I was very hesitant to remove FFX cards, and I did remove a lot, but I wanted to keep at least a lot of the main characters (party + Seymour + Shelinda + Tromell) if possible as well as things like Sphere Grid and Chocobo Knights. Early additions were focused on being FF cards like Zack, Sazh, and The Earth Crystal. I was sad to cut some of the cards like Sunscorch Regent, Forgotten Ancient, and Bane of Progress because of the great art on them, but it felt like a necessary move to make the deck stronger.
>>96315370
lmao the mouth foaming joke guy, also it's nice to see Allies getting more support
>>96315368
Yeah, it sorta does feel like I have only a few methods of proliferating. I just cut Inexorable Tide.
As for the deck, yeah it got a LOT of neat stuff and fun toys despite osme of the big cost cards being pretty not great. Would've loved to see Defender X with the ability to tap and put a stun counter on a creature when he attacks to simulate Blast Punch, or giving us Spherimorph, Chocobo Eater, etc. I know that it's easier to do reprints with new art, but I wish these decks had a lot more original cards.

>>96315397
Here's my baby tier precon list with game changers :)

https://archidekt.com/decks/14274986/ffx_blinged_precon

Do you pay the (4)?

>>96315404
Damn I'm jelly if you have a Surge Foil Yuna, I really wanted a Surge Foil alt art Tidus but buying it feels like it'd punch me in the dick right now lmao. I have a Rhystic Study, but I've yet to figure out if I want it in, same with something like Survival of the Fittest, Sylvan Library, Mirri's Guile, etc.
I do sorta wonder what the chances are of getting a cool surge foil from an FF Collector pack.

>>96315410
Last time I played against one of these, I talked the other two players into going "land pass" for 2 turns until the guy let his Remora die so he could play other cards. It was quite amusing. He then played Rhystic Study and it got hit with removal and he paid the 1.

>>96315420
I beat a shitton of people at maggicon events and opened like 20 collector boosters from the points and box I bought for 350, sold a tifa and sephiroth for 1k combined cash on day 1. I only added rhystic because it was FF. tho I am adding weftwalking and maybe symbiosis

>>96315368
Hey at least precon Tifa lets me do funny shit with my boy.

>>96315428
Man I'm jealous as shit, that sounds awesome. also I definitely recommend Symbiosis, just from some playtests when I drew it, it draws a LOT of cards fast.

Im doing it. Thinking a few equipments and auras that will automatically equip and a bunch of permanents that want to die.

Reminder that there's nothing wrong with Oloro.

https://archidekt.com/decks/13249780/not_getting_out_of_this_chair

>>96315445
Wrong

>>96315457
no u

>>96315467
Eminenece and eminence like effects are a mistake. I would take it further and say emblems are also a mistake. Things opponents can't really interact with are horrible design choices. Naturalize 2 should be a real card and not just a test card.

>>96315122
the one in which you win when it hits the field

>>96315296
Here's a quick shot of my work in progress while I cook dinner.
Posted the mox list a few threads back and snagging some dual lands per an anon's suggestion. Probably gonna replace green Tifa with her Martial Artist version, and swap some of my ramp spells with Titania's Command and Archdruid's Charm just because I think the flexibility would really help. Probably gonna kill off w Aerith too, since I'm really thinking the deck needs Clever Concealment and a few blink options so the +1/+1 improvements would be kinda moot if bringing her back just wipes them. I can save her for the angel deck I wanna make eventually.

>>96315505
that one doesnt even need helm you can just go infinite storm count with baubles or crypt or some other 0 cost im forgetting

>>96314697
They gotta just stop printing blood artists and start printing more zulaports

>>96315433
Seems like he plays well with Devil tokens too.

Kefka is so fucking brutal. Even with a shell thats 100% meme, he’s so good by himself.

Is this commander better? My deck is wizard tribal already

>>96315482
this but graveyard hate

I'm going to make a couple sets of proxy true duals to bring to the store and the moment some fag breaks out his own and starts mumbling about how they aren't actually that powerful I'm going to slide them into my own deck and offer them to the other players in the pod as well.

>>96315512
I just like redundancy for more consistency, besides it reduces Emry's cost even further and that's good for a KoS commander.

>>96315536
As a reanimator player it's a necessary available counterplay. I'm sorry your pod caught on to your bullshit. Ive never run into grave hate with randoms personally.

>>96315433
Feels like you gonna get fuckes if your time is wrong but looks fun

>>96315532
Ironically the weakest of the eminence commanders when it originally came out but with all the Wizards in Grixis and flicker effects in blue I think Inalla could be a lot better than people think nowadays so I’d say it’s worth a shot. I also got this Kuja along with the Najeela Cloud at the pre-release and have been indecisive as hell as to which one to build as I already have a Grixis Sauron deck.

>>96315532
Inalla is a boogeyman. There is a 24 step 1 card combo thanks to Eminence.

You may be able to squeeze in a normal game if you can guarantee you are not going to be degenerate, but people know eminence is busted, know Inalla makes even Edgar Markov look like a bitch, and will very likely make you the archenemy before turn 1 begins.

>>96315504
We need a clearer picture, anon.

>>96315296
Reupload of my ironic Galia deck that seldom wins but can be threatening at least until the first board wipe. Very pleased to have acquired an Italian HP Willow Satyr as the cornerstone.

>>96315504
What does this deck, like, do though?

>>96315566
>>96315565
>cast harmonic prodigy
>blue braids
>eldrazi player drops ulamog and void winnower
>lightning rod of removal
>drop gogo and greaves
>kefka/gogo with greaves, empty their hand
>super kefka gets dropped and gogo him as well
>farewelled
>weftwalking
>tempt with mayhem, show and tell
>radiate phthisis for the win


I want to do so shenanigans that are fair, but brutal. I don’t like instantly winning early, but if I develop into a 5 card rubgoldberg machine combo thats fine.

I’ve never even seen Innalla, is it worse than kefka? How tf is it a 1 card combo?

>>96315641
Inalla is a CEDH commander

>>96315550
What is the counterplay to graveyard hate in mono black? If your issue is lack of interaction then you should be consistent.
What is my answer to tormod's crypt or bojuka bog in black? What can I pack to interact with that?

>>96315649
Refilling your graveyard and going off again.

>>96315649
if you could just ignore your counterplay, wouldn't that defeat the purpose of counterplay?

>Ummm I can't interact with Oloro eminence or emblems
Kill the emblem granting creature/PW before it goes off
Run anti-Lifegain.

>swordfag gets all the deck attention
>AGAIN
RESPOND TO MY FUCKING DECK.

>>96315669
>playing my hope deck for the first time
>t2 screaming nemesis, other player swings a mana dork into it
>no point in casting lifegain spells
>counter/remove everything they do
>’wow this game really sucks’
>put on my headphones and watch tv in transparency mode
>counter everything the two of them do
>4th guy combos out and win

This was last week and they are still salty. What did they think was going to happen?

>>96315690
That you wouldn't play a bullshit card.

>>96315680
FUCK. Forgot link.
https://archidekt.com/decks/13429111/kefka_max

>>96315680
forgot to link. I'm so sick of tripfags.
>>96315610

>>96315696
>bullshit card

>>96315701
Yes. A card that entirely shuts off another deck with no way to reverse it is bullshit and I would not play with someone using it.

>>96315680
It's exactly how I feel, I thought being intentionally retarded would get me more than one (You) but alas here we are.

>>96315700
You never see them so I doubt it.

>>96315700
????
I'm not you

>>96315634
I put equipment on and hit them, boss

>>96315713
>>96315700
>>96315697
Wait, if your not me, then who am I?

fuck, he's you isn't he?

>>96315697
Holy slop.

>>96315296
This is very out dated. I should take a new picture.

>>96315697
Lmao. Not even a single tiddy proxy, chains, and it's clearly not edhrec enough. Too spicy. No updoot from me, kind sir. We only respond to soulless slop here.

>>96315726
I get that you're being ironic but that deck is the pinnacle of soulless slop.

>>96315701
>le infinite combosloppatoppa

>>96315728
>soulless

Go on then bitch, post yours

>>96315728
Kinda, but it's got some spice. It's missing some top 100 to really attract the (You)'s

>>96315296
Outdated and I'll take a new picture a different day

>>96315335
>>96315697
>>96315723
>>96315735
All UBslop

>>96315296
Lately ive been having the most fun with Zenos and Emet selch
watching people burn big spells to save another person has been really entertaining
im waiting on my Vivi alt to play my 3rd favorite character

>>96315748
All you had to do was say "No UB"

>>96315728

>>96315732
How is hope an infinite? It’s an end turn trigger. Is there some bullshit gain life extra endstep thing?

My squall deck

>>96315735
>5c slop AND it's UB
holy fuck anon you're not helping your case rofl

IGNORE the fact that the total number of cards is 105

>>96315735
>he thinks we play this soulless funko shit

>>96315758
Boring as shit and I'd kill you on sight every game for having a combo piece in the command zone.

>>96315735
>Chatgpt: Make an image of a Terra, Magical Adept commander deck. Use the top cards from Edhrec.com only. Make it look hastily sprawled out on a dragon playmat.

Underrated

who?

>>96315764
you're the same guy that wrote that seething story earlier aren't you. about the guy with the printed proxies?

>>96315767
Also

>>96315776
This one gets worse the more they print flip cards. This can't hit a flip card.

>>96315774
Dr. Who.

>>96315764
every commander is a combo piece that's the point of the fucking format unless you run draw card commanders on top of generic shells in which case you're the boring one you faggot
>captcha: GAAY0

>>96315790
I bought the cloud precon because I love FF, and I was looking for an excuse to build an equip focused deck. I was planning to do red/white of some sort, so cloud lined up well for me.

that said, 5 and 9 are best FFs.

I WILL play with you tier
>>96315610
>>96315741

Boring goodstuff tier

>>96315445
>>96315750
>>96315754

Get the fuck out of my format tier

>>96315758
>>96315735
>>96315723
96315697
96315335
96315504

Grim.

>>96315790
It's almost like people don't need to care about the IP to have fun with the cards.

>>96315790
9 is one of my favorite games of all time, im still annoyed we didnt get an actual eiko card or amarant

>>96315799
>wants to play with the shitty meme decks and not the decks that might actually beat him
color me surprised

>>96315809
Mine too bro, mine too...

>>96315799
i just really like Zenos and his effect is kino
some of the most fun ive had playing magic

>>96315812
>there is NO middle ground between fun decks and filling it with 50 staples

>>96315820
I respect a lot of the cards in your 99 but your commander makes it way too easy

>>96315816
i built Zidane, and im waiting on a few cards for Vivi since my buddy got me the alt art as a birthday gift, and im still tempted on building garnet, i wish freya wouldve been an actual commander instead of a mana dork
im still tempted on running the WoL jodah, or syr gwyn as knight tribal with all the dragoons and other FF knight characters i couldnt make a whole deck around

the criteria these retards are evaluating your decks on is just inversely proportional to the number of cards they recognize. in a few threads i'm going to post a bracket 2 deck filled with unsynergistic nonsense that nobody knows and rake in the high ratings

>>96315799
>Got boring good stuff AND Will play with you tier
I can live with it
>>96315812
Why is my Evereth deck a shitty meme deck?

>>96315836
Post (you)r deck and I promise I will tell you why it stinks and why you are essentially a monkey when it comes to deck building.

>>96315827
its understandable, im used to playing against hyper power good stuff and borderline cedh, but now that my friends are into magic ive been having fun with stupid shit like this and making a mini game at the table
i just love his effect so fucking much, im glad my favorite character got such a fun effect to play
i even managed to make some random rage quit the store when i hatred pumped him for 39 life

>>96315846
Staple slopper detected

>>96315849
>Why is my Evereth deck a shitty meme deck?
don't take it too personally i didn't even look at the ones he ranked well i'm just mad he put me in grim category

>>96315858
It's understandable anon, I'd do the same thing

>>96315856
i like playing cards that are good yea

>>96315852
These are my decks

>>96315867
>Kaalia
>Atraxa
Boring.
>Ashling
Also boring.
>Karametra
Generic.
>Gisela
>competitive
Oh, alright. You're a little stupid.

>>96315870
wife

A lot of your lists read like the NPCs who make up the core of a local game store. Players who unironically run things like landfall or some slapdash pile of good but expensive cards that accrete into a powerful board.

It isn't a coincidence that most players I encounter with these sorts of decks also lose a lot. They're often terrible at the game.

>>96315867
>75% deck
the fuck did he mean by that? Is this like whole milk, skim milk, etc?

>>96315881
post one of your decks big guy

>>96315887
"No"

>>96315887
LMAO No.

>>96315809
>>96315816
Know I’m in the minority of people who played 9 and didn’t like it (didn’t ‘click’ for me in the same way Hollow Knight did despite loving Souls and Metroidvania games), but even I was surprised with no Eiko. But I know the reason is because they would have had to have given up an FF14 card slot and there’s no way Squenix could have that.
>Work fuck-up from colleagues makes me miss my lunch break
Guess I’ll post deck afterwards if the thread is still up.

>>96315881
this is my list

>>96315887
You wouldn't get them, there's no point

https://moxfield.com/decks/X9uC7XbNnEGBA1vx2YM4wQ

Thoughts on my deck? I'm trying to be MOSTLY budget, but I wanted to grab those new cards of "The Fire Crystal" and "Pain for All".

I'm not looking to win every game, just screw around with my table and holding a sword of damocles over them.

>>96315790
7 is one of my GOAT games though, right up there with Sonic 3 and Knuckles and Majora's Mask

>>96315912
The crystals are noob traps. They're fucking terrible cards.

>>96315919
I mean, sure, it's not amazing, but literally anything that lets me save on mountains to pump up ashling more is usually decent for this deck, no?

>>96315923
No, it sucks dude. All of the crystals are bad.

>>96315923
If it's the cost discount you want, Ruby Medallion is the same thing except actually good.

>>96315930
>>96315919
>retard take
no surprises here

>>96315933
oh wow, that's literally just a better version.

>>96315936
>the 4 mana do-nothing rocks are good
The one you can make the case for is the blue one, and that's just because of some weird interactions with mill cards.

>>96315940
>do nothing
>all of them do 2-3 things
retard opinion

>>96315943
>so new he doesn't know what a do-nothing card is
You are the target audience for the crystal cycle of rares.

>>96315919
Earth Crystal ain't too bad honestly

>>96315945
>everyone who disagrees with me is new
>every crystal has a passive, static ability so they do something on drop
>hurrr
I've been playing longer than you've been alive.

>>96315948
It really, really is.
>>96315951
Anon these are 4 mana medallions that have no impact when you play them. They are not worth a slot in your deck, even at bracket 2.

>>96315767
It suuuuure fucking is, homie

>>96315958
i like fire crystal in clive since its another copier and its mana reduction along with haste
and darkness crystal has been fucking sephiroth players

>>96315958
>Fire Crystal gives haste to all of your creatures
>Wind Crystal doubles all lifegain
>Black Crystal punishes any death on the opposing sides
>Water Crystal ups any mill by a huge amount on incremental mill
>Earth Crystal doubles +1/+1 counter application (a totally mundane and definitely not strong effect at all)
You got me to bite, but the only arguably not good crystal is Water for being far too niche. The others are not only good, they're actually great. Earth Crystal is Branching Evolution + Emerald Medallion + a mana sink to actually put counters out there. These are fantastic cards.

>>96315958
>my opinion is the only opinion that matters
This general would be a much better place if you guys would fuck right off

>>96315986
water crystal wouldve been amazing if it was all players and not just opponents

>>96315867
It's nice that you actual play the old school commanders. You look at a new legendary and you immediately see the deck behind it. The old guys can be played multiple ways.

>>96315988
I can completely agree with that, it would have escalated Sultai, Dimir, and Grixis self-mill to an incredible degree. It would have gone perfectly with Golbez as well.

>>96315986
All the things you list could be strong passive effects if they did not require you to, again, SPEND 4 FUCKING MANA. If you do not see how these cards are wildly inefficient I do not know what to tell you. You are nigh tapping out for these things half the time.

>>96315987
Card evaluation is opinion to a certain extent, but saying "I think (bulk rare) is actually good" is often factually wrong.

honestly they played it way too safe with WH40k. they blew their load too early before they knew wtf they were doing. a set full of boring, underwhelming cards. Me personally, i would have this tap to give a creature protection from a color until end of turn, and also have "Sacrifice a creature: Add one time counter to The Golden Throne. When there are 1000 or more time counters on The Golden Throne, you win the game"

>>96316001
wouldve been auto include for emet selch

>>96316005
>spend 4 mana
You AREN'T just paying for those effects. You're also getting a Medallion AND each one has a mana sink. You're trying to evaluate them as piecemeal and they aren't, they're a combination of 3 effects, 2 of which are persistent the moment you play them and 1 you can sink mana into after. You're a retard.

>>96315940
Only the white and blue ones suck. Jund colors got good effects on theirs

>>96316007
at least make it where it adds time counters equal to the creatures power if it's gonna be 1000 anon

>>96316011
You do not want to be spending 4 mana on these effects. You want to be spending 4 mana to enact your deck's game plan. In what world are you curving on turn 3-4 into this card instead of something actually good except vs. precons?

>>96315852
Here are my decks.

R8/H8.

>>96316007
>me? Id have it be a gay useless card instead heh

>>96316030
>precon commanders with a single designated strategy
>tribal
LGS NPC spotted

>>96316029
>except anything good
is making it so no one can use death triggers suddenly a bad thing to have in your gameplan? is having a mill deck not suddenly up to 5x as much mill on small mill not part of their plan? doubling +1/+1 counters isn't ever a plan? Last (you), you dum

>>96316022
white one isn't bad at all

>>96316031
>a colorless mother of runes that doubles as a sac outlet and alt wincon is useless
>>96316023
it's more for the flavor, if you can sacrifice 1000 creatures you're probably in a position where you're about to win the game anyway

>>96316034
I like precons, as it gives a general equivalent power level for pick up games. That said, my squirrel deck isn't a precon(though it is close to the precon).

Also, I'm planning to sell my necrons, and pick up a Yedora deck from a friend of mine.

>>96316038
In black? Yes. Graveyard hate is not at a premium in your color.

>>96315958
This is an objectively incorrect take
>they do nothing
How does haste do nothing even the turn it comes down? If I play this and any creature without haste after, then it did something the turn it came down. They

>>96316034
>precon commanders are bad
This take is always so dumb.

so does everyone in this fucking general have an ashling deck

>>96316044
Same reasoning I gave here
>>96316043
haste outlets in red are not remotely at a premium. The "value" you're getting stapled onto your ruby medallion does not justify playing it on turn 4.

>>96316052
Feel free to post your titanic deck.

>>96316030
So you used the equipment commander to build an equipment deck? And the Sliver commander to build a Sliver deck? And the squirrel to build a squirrel deck? Did you do a lot of these paint by number pictures as a kid?

>>96315789
No
I attack

>>96316052
>Ruby Medallion costs 2
>Fervor costs 3
>Fire Crystal costs 4 and is both + a token generator
>it's a red spell so it's also reduced by the ruby medallion you're probably also using for redundancy
uhm...

>>96316039
Ya it is only good part is the anthem effect and that can be found in better places

>>96316058
>having themed decks supporting a commander is le bad
what?

>>96315790
I love FF
but it's UB and so far I have been able to avoid all UB cards so I'm not really compelled to start now.

>>96316058
yeah man let me go make a token deck out of satsuki or something because HOLY SHIT THAT MAKES FUCKING SENSE

>>96316068
The commander is the theme. No variation possible.

>>96316062
>he thinks fervor is being played in 2025
Even haste outlets in general are dated. They can staple it to the card because no one gives a fuck about them anymore.

The argument going on here is effectively "niche cards bad"

>>96316062
Don't you know that you can only put one of those in the deck. And yes you will always have Ruby in your hand each time every time you play.

>>96316068
Build around me brain has hit the format in a huge way

>>96316029
>no one is allowed to have fun EVER
>you are ONLY allowed to play the most meta/optimal card possible
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck off already jesus christ

>>96316072
Why would you care for that when you have a specific theme you want to build with in mind? You have 4chanbrain and youre retarded
>>96316075
What does this even mean haste is one of the strongest keywords in the game

>>96315780
It can, what?

>>96316081
Anon you stupid fucking faggot I'm saying the cards are bad, not that EDH is a hardcore format where you can't run bad cards. The problem is people are running them because they think they're GOOD.

>>96316087
Here's the issue
they are good, and you're wrong

Just have it lmao

>>96316084
How do you turn a double faced card "face down"? Balance it on its side?

>>96316084
It cannot scryfall is your friend

>>96316075
No one said Fervor is being played in 2025, I said that one of the cheapest and most reliable haste enablers costs 3 mana. Stapling it to a better card (Ruby Medallion) for a net positive 1 mana is a good thing, especially with an activated ability you can then pay into. Surely Red has nothing worth copying and making tokens of, right?

>>96316029
Anon, I play pic related just because it has my general's name in it.
This is edh. This is normal.

>>96316082
You don't run fervor effects. Power creep is such that a lot of cards that cheat out fatties innately give haste. Mass token generators simply provide hasted tokens now (red in particular).

Alternatively you can get the effect for literally free in the form of Anger.

>>96316087
It's good, if you're playing in monocolor you want as much redundancy as possible to smooth out your game plan.

>>96316087
Except they are good in certain decks. Your issue is they are not generically good and do not fit in any deck of the color.
I use the fire crystal in my deck that absolutely must have redundant haste at all time. I use the white one in my Karlov deck because it is a lifegain deck.

I would not use wind crystal in a random ass mono white token deck, though. You are evaluating cards in a generic sense.

>>96316101
Did this guy insult Queen Therese or King Seb?

>>96316097
Yes you do. Youre not a good player anon im afraid ill need to see a decklist to even consider taking you seriously

>>96316105
Who cares? Still defending Poole, huh?
>but what about x, y and z?
Makes his art suddenly way better, right?
lmao

>>96316101
Back from your ban already?

Why run medallion? Just run this instead.

>>96316112
I don't care about Poole but this level of autism is usually caused by culture war shit.

>>96316117
You're the expert.

>>96316114
No run this and a flicker package. In a way your spells cost less if your opponents spells cost more

>>96316087
>mfw this anon says they're bad but if they were good in his eye he'd instead call every deck that ran them goodslop instead

>

>>96316007
The Golden Throne is fine as it is. Though you are right about the rest of your point. For the most part anyway. Some of the cards were interesting. The Warhammer precons were the first big crossover and it really feels like it with how safe they played.

>>96316142
I personally think the Tyranids are really cool for +1/+1 counter decks like Aberrant and Genestealer.

>>96316149
They have the bones of something fine but they were still split between a couple different focuses like the chaos precon was. Not as mixed as the chaos one was but it's trying to go in at least three different ways and that's kind of messy. It may have served them a bit better to have picked one strategy and stick to it fully.

>>96316149
I was gonna say something similar. I'm considering a few Tyranids for my Tidus deck purely for how nifty their synergies are.
Tyranid Prime gives Evolve to all of your boys, Aberrant gives you a cheap trampler that escalates, isnt a dead draw late because of his X, and functions as good removal, Biophagus is awesome, Purestrain for ramp, Bio-Titan for a fuckhuge murderbeast, and Malanthrope as graveyard hate. Trygon Prime is also really sick for making stuff unblcokable and adding counters.

>>96315296
My newest deck. It was Thrun, The Last Troll voltron, I converted it to Tifa voltron/dredge.

>>96316127
What happened to Goreclaw in nu-Tarkir?

>>96316169
Oh you DO NOT want to know!!

>>96316169
UGIND

>>96316166
I love how kill on sight Tifa has become since people now know firsthand she can delete players with incredible efficiency
>t. fag that got deleted by a trample 48 power tifa a few weeks back

each player sacrifices a creature

>>96316215
Mommy says no.

>>96316087
>my opinion is correct everyone else is wrong
Act like a dipshit, get treated like a dipshit.

>>96316212
I can consistently present atleast a 24 power attacking tifa on turn 3, but it's a dumb green stompy aggro deck so I don't feel bad killing people if they are too bad at deck building to run removal or low cost interaction. I don't usually win games but it's fun to delete people early. I usually go after whoever has the biggest sweat deck and yaps and politics the most for my first attack.

I was going to post a photo of my jund dragons deck but it was taking too long to set up and it's late so here's the list

https://moxfield.com/decks/5TQkjadeZ0-4AHD2_Vq1aA
A fair and simple big dumb ramp dragon deck.
Vaevictis usually flies under the radar, I get a lot of commander damage kills with him as people use all their removal on my other dragons before he comes down. Also he's an OG elder dragon, which is what the format is named after.

3dog bros.. it's time

>>96316166
Absolute slop. "Do you have it?" the deck.

>>96316252
Isn't every deck essentially just "Do you have it?"

>>96316259
My decks don't require you to "have it" for me to lose.

>>96316252
That's not even a "Do you have it?" deck, that's a "Do you have TWO of it to bypass my protection spell?"
Freakishly annoying commander. They somehow made me hate Tifa Lockhart and her huge tits.

>>96316244
lol holy shit. I thought I was being fancy thinking about amassing treasures n shit and popping an All That Glitters with a bunch of token creatures out

Universes Beyond is a midwit filter.

>low IQ people
"wow this franchise is so cool. Spider-Man is so flashy and epic. I love it" *buys a precon*

>medium IQ people
"Wtf um ugh this is so cringe. I only want something I can take seriously, man, I'm so above playing cards about superheroes and cartoons. My superior intelligence is too high for such tripe." *goes and watches Tolarian Community College videos and thinks they're high quality analysis*

>high IQ people
"Bahahaha, this is so ridiculously insane! It's a big budget well-crafted fever dream, truly one of a kind! I love it. Yeah! I'll tap my 'Guy in the Chair' to cast 'SpongeBob SquarePants' *drafts Vintage Cube in his free time afterwards*

>>96316280
Nice fanfic

>>96316264
So when you're swinging for lethal you're not removal checking someone?

>>96316298
>when you're swinging for lethal

>>96316291
found the midwit

>>96316270
It made me love Tifa and her huge tits more.
>>96316252
Just run doom blade or swords to plowshares bro. Kill Tifa turn 2 and you're safe for awhile. If your deck can't handle dumb monogreen aggro, you're not very good at deckbuilding.

>>96316252
Have you thought about putting interaction in your deck?

>>96316327
Exactly. I used my Tifa deck to teach noobs lessons about how to get better at the game. Vs competent players, Tifa usually dies over and over again before I can get a single attack with her off. My message to noobs out there-get good.

>>96316339
>just always have it

>>96316346
You get a free mulligan. Run low cost interaction or prepare to die. That's how this game works. And it's not like I always have a turn 3 kill either. If your deck can't handle Tifa, it's not very good.

Even if I don't have it, I always have it.

>>96316195
>>96316207
Ah shit

>Final Fantasy
>oops all heroes
>Spider-Man
>oops all spiders
>Avatar
>oops all allies
It’s already wearing thin

>>96316372
>Naruto
>oops all ninjas

>>96316376
Naruto UB would break the internet and be the highest selling set of all time, by alot.

>>96316259
Not durdle slop piles played by players who "don't care about winning and just want to have fun"

>>96316259
not every deck is "muligan for removal or die turn 3"

>>96316383
I truly doubt this.

>>96316372
DB UB will save us.

Do it, cowards!

>>96315809
At least you got something, I'm a V fag and all I got was a Flametongue Kavu in Bartz and Boco.

I would unironically love a Naruto set.

>>96316487
this but dragon ball

>>96316487
>Put 72 stun counters on target creature

Bring back transmute

>>96316487
It will be funny if the saga creatures making a comeback with Naruto's creature summons. All the good ideas are now only for UB.

>>96316327
>Have you thought about putting interaction in your deck?
i've actually outsourced interaction to guys like you for a long time now and you deleting annoying commanders has worked wonders for me

>>96316637
he cute

>>96316637
I'll gladly play my 3rd asymmetrical boardwipe this game to punish fools that think their greed pile will fly under the radar.

>>96316418
On the contrary, I consider this divine retribution for fools that kept pushing the narrative that instant speed spot removal is bad. Then when suddenly faced with a creature that's succinctly answered by Fatal Push, Lightning Bolt, Swords to Plowshares, Tail Swipe, or Pongify, there's only complaints that's it's a game of "Do you have it?"
Guess what buddy, this is the game that 1v1 constructed has been playing for 5 years now, except there is no "it" to have, because all the spot removal costs more than the threats.

Make creatures bad again.

>>96316767
I still play Serra Angel.

>>96316767
Just make bad creatures cost less. A craw worm should be 3 mana now, adjusted for inflation.

>>96316805
I could see a vanilla 6/4 for GGG very easily. Probably even at common.

>>96316818
aetherdrift had this guy and a 3drop 7/2

4-mana 7/7? Fuck that.
3-mana 8/8.

>>96316830
seeing absolutely zero play at all levels btw

>>96316787
Serra Angel could be flat out reprinted at 2W.

Play me.

>>96316850
This card was once considered playable. Now a vanilla 7/7 for 4 would not be considered playable.

>>96316859
That's just natural progression of a game. Power creep comes and phases out a lot of older cards as the game develops.

>>96316857
Ugin was kind of retarded wasn't he?

>>96316866
Yeah, I know kids are always disappointed to learn any Yu-Gi-Oh card featured in the original anime is completely unplayable in the card game these days.

>>96316872
At least Yu-Gi-Oh does "try" to make old cards somewhat playable. Not always at an immensely competitive level, unless it's an outlier like the relatively recent Blue-Eyes stuff, but it is something. Not sure there's really a way Magic can do the same with how it's card's are built and how it isn't as focused on specific cards.

>>96316857
I do, but only in decks that reduce casting cost or activation cost.

The final fantasy precons should have been 4 color precons.
>FFX RUGW
>FFVI RBWG
>FFVII URGB
>FFXIV UBGW

>>96316885
VI should have been replaced with V and 5c Butz as the commander.

The final fantasy precons should have been 5 color precons.
>FFX WUBRG
>FFVI GWUBR
>FFVII RGWUB
>FFXIV BRGWU

What would be your Avatar precons list?

>>96316952
WUR jim jam, son of dongle

My dear little Ocelot

>>96316166
>i converted from soul to slop

>>96316901
No. Eternal formats already have a 4c problem, I think someone, probably the last guy who actually plays the game, at wotc knows this.
There's nothing flavorful about making those decks 4c either. It would be an all around worse move.

>>96316952
Aviator? Like that Leonardo DiCaprio vehicle? Idk how they are going to make precons out of that. I can't wait to see how lame and gay they make Katharine Hepburn.

>>96315641
It's one card because all you need to do is Spellseeker to get the ball rolling. Everything else in the sequence provides the necessary mana. Inalla's eminence ability is just needed from the command zone.

>>96315296
It's been slightly updated but can't take a new picture right now

>>96316621
opposition agent is the hero we deserve

Is Clive worth it as card draw for mono red? My Pashalik deck hasn't been updated for a while and it's lacking the ramp and card draw to keep up in current year.

>>96315867
Gisela decklist? Never thought of going stax with her.

>>96317492
I only have him as commander, but he works super well as a draw engine there. You could try him and see if you reach the devotion to make him worth it. Dunno if the backside will be useful in a go wide deck though. You probably don't have much trample.

>>96317492
definitely worth it, i run him in dong zhou. especially if you can copy him

>>96317534
I barely attack for combat damage, if I do it's because someone has a mountain and I have a lord out or if I want to suicide some goblins for the ping ability.

>>96316242
I goldfished 20 times and was able to do 24 damage once. No need to lie about your decks lol

>>96316280
Found the drooling retard

>>96317640
>the pot calling the kettle black
go back to commenting on some trinket mage videos filthy midwit

>>96317662
I love UB anon. But only low IQ drooling morons make shit like this where *conveniently* their view is the high IQ one

>>96316280
I'm somehow low IQ and high IQ the only Spiderman card that interest me is the Peter Parker card that flips

>>96316422
It has overtaken dragonball as the most popular normie anime in the west. I assume you're a gen x boomer grandpa, which is why you're too out of touch to know this.

>>96317900
Naruto is old hat, it's JJk and Demon Slayer that are the gateway anime now. You aren't with it anymore.

>>96317071
I didn't build it to impress obese autists on 4chan, I built it to destroy people who are bad at the game to teach them to get good or gtfo. Also Tifa is my waifu.

>>96317913
Naruto is the new 'classic multigenerational beloved old-school anime' taking the spot dragonball used to have. JJK and KnY aren't on that level in the west-yet, but you're correct they are the top gen z gateway animes.

>>96317900
No it hasn't? What a weird thing to lie about

>>96317635
Maybe you just aren't good at magic? It's pretty consistent and easy to run properly. Maybe you are a noob?

>>96317915
But its not a very good deck anon. It's incredibly telegraphed and ridiculously easy to counter. If youre even playing with people who would lose to this im afraid youre part of that "bad at the game" group. Youre like board wipe spammers who dont realize only bad pods need board wipes spammed lmao

>>96317932
>its pretty consistent
Nta but i golsfished 30 times and only did it 3 times. I think you just lied about your deck cause you wanted to seem cool or we have wildly different opinions on what constitutes "consistent" or you just disregard certain hands or mulligan improperly lol

>>96317931
Yes it has. Naruto is the top normie shonen now. Millenials who grew up with it love it and gen z and alpha got in to it from Netflix during lockdown. Shonen jump editors recently confirmed it's their biggest hit in the west in decades, and now are attempting to make Black Clover the next Naruto. NFL players rock up to the stadium in akatsuki cloaks, they aren't wearing tanjiro and gojo cosplays bro.

>>96317947
Just pump tifa and drop a fetchland bro.

>>96317948
JJK one piece and AOT are all bigger.

>>96317939
I kill noobs. I lose to competents. I agree it's not very good, but it's fun and suits my playstyle when I want to play dumb aggro.

>>96317954
>1/2
>fetchland 2/2
>Crack fetch 4/2
Epic power. Dies to a 2 power first striking chump blocker while youre getting in your 24 (minus 20) cimmander damage lol

>>96317962
Not with normies in the west.

>>96317966
>I sometimes beat other shitters
>but when I face someone even remotely good at the game I lose
Yes thats what I said, its a bad deck and you play it against the bad players you are rightfully matched up against.

>>96317969
Yeah- it's easily stopped. People who complain about it being "do you have it?".dec are noobs.

>>96317969
>8 words and anon still misses half of them
Amazing display of reading comprehension.

Anon's list still sucks cause he barely plays fetches, yet also ramunap excavator and no Azusa. Not to mention a severe lack of land tutors like Nature's Lore, etc.

>>96317915
>Also Tifa is my waifu
I have bad news for you...

>>96317983
That's what I said when I posted it. It beats noobs, generally loses to competents.

>>96317971
I mean imdb is mainly a western site and yes on that they are all rated higher. Myanimelist they are all higher. Tiktok if you look up the hashtag for all the shows they also have more posts than Naruto. Youre wrong, thats okay, Naruto is very popular still.

>>96317986
Nothing was missed it was ignored as there are way to many pump spells! +1 only makes that 8, and still dies to just about any blocker in the game lol. Name the pump spell and what turn its being played

>>96317948
>anon finds out that he has become the boomer and is no longer hip and with it
Look at this old man.

>>96317994
No anon you misrepresent it.
>sometimes my shitty deck beats the other shitters I play with
>but I lose to everyone else cause its a bad deck
Good consistent decks win. Your deck is bad.

>>96317996
Rated higher, not as popular with normies. Stop getting your world views from internet critic sites.

>>96317996
In terms of selling merch, shonen jump recently said Naruto is their top global IP

>>96318025
>user ratings on imdb, user ratings on myanimelist and literal normies making videos on tiktok and putting #show in the caption are "internet critic sites"
Anon what is your basis for your position then? I just checked Twitter as well and guess which shows had more posts about them! One piece and AOT over naruto
>>96318030
https://comicbook.com/anime/news/shonen-jump-top-grossing-manga/

Got anything more recent than this that doesn't flat out state youre wrong? Admittedly spent 3 seconds looking for this so idc

>how politics deck players view themselves
the story ends the same way too, just a bunch of yapping until someone kills you. politics doesn't work in a format where most of the players are sub 100 IQ

>>96318096
The real politics is doing as little as possible to not draw aggro and then win when your opponents did half the work for you.
Not playing a land in hand early on is the biggest brain play you can make.

>be me
>have playgroup of 3 other guys who get together once or twice a month
>we only ever play with eachother
>been loving 4c grouphug since it came out, been playing it exclusively for a few months
>start noticing that the guys are changing their decks to adapt to the constant card draw
>show up yesterday with a Pharika deck instead with a small discard subtheme
>everyone else's deck is running out of gas
>have the game in a stranglehold
>forgot to put a wincon in
>eventually win after like an hour and a half of attrition
woops, that certainly won't help my reputation as the mld/prison/stax apologist.
I'll probably go back to group hug next time...

>I'm in Naya
>I can't deal with your artifacts, I only put aura shards in my deck and that's your fault for playing an unfair deck

>>96316327
The Tifa deck is boring as shit aside from that. The flip side of "Do You Have It" decks at the pod is that they themselves are uninteractrive by nature of their game plan. They ask YOU to "have it" while selfishly not "having it" themselves, meaning once they're neutered other stronger, more consistent decks get to go unchecked.

I've won multiple games by virtue of a Tifa deck being in the pod. I play a threatening card, but oop, opponent has Tifa and can just threaten lethal. Someone has to waste removal on it now. Absolute slop.

>>96317238
Despite being Fallout slop I am adding you to the "I WILL play with you tier" of
>>96315799
because the commander is mechanically interesting.

>>96317238
I am excited to put this deck together. This my list so far wanna mess around with it a bit more before I commit.
https://archidekt.com/decks/15066898/three_dogs

>>96318190
oh so i was right, you do only want to play with decks you think you can beat

Copying this here because why not.

>get a Sliver deck as a gift
>it's the precon, but it got some upgrades (e.g. Overlord, Hivelord, First, and Legion), but nothing insane like the one ring, tutors, etc
>go to play
>people refuse to play because "Slivers are toxic"
As someone who doesn't have a ton of experience with commander, is this a typical reaction? Are Slivers that bad? I'm also wondering besides stuff like the one ring, tutors, etc what should I be looking for to upgrade further.

>>96318222
Nta he pegged you lmao. 3 pieces of removal in your deck. A deck BTW that would only beat shitters

>>96318232
Slivers are one of those decks that may as well play with their hand revealed. It becomes obvious when they are going to win and therefor, despite being only pretty ok, they draw a lot of aggression.
Also people repeat dumb shit, that guy may not have ever played against slivers before and probably has no idea what he's talking about.

>>96318222
Tifa is boring anon. You present the same play pattern every game.
>play Tifa
>try to one-shot someone
The game plan is binary as a combo deck and warps the entire table dynamic.

>>96318264
>implying it's not a psychosis crawler deck

>>96318232
slivers have been replaced by eldrazi as the pubstomping tribe. Which means they're not good at the top level, but they're really good at shitting on mid tier decks. in fact slivers are kind of rare these days, because they don't print a lot of support for them.

>>96318264
i'm not who you think i am, but this is pretty reductive. you could say the same about any deck

>>96318273
equating crawler whose combo can beat the whole pod to a waifu that can only kill one player at a time (running out of gas while she's at it btw) is wild bro

>>96318289
Are you a moron or can you not see why Tifa would run crawler as a primary win con?

>>96318286
No you really can't. Many decks have non-linear paths to victory despite their commander representing a specific strategy which creates the variety you want in a commander game.

You KNOW the one of two ways a Tifa game is going to go.

>>96318307
i actually have no fucking clue what you're talking about, enlighten me on how the voltron commander has draw-ping as a "primary wincon"

>>96318286
You absolutely COULD NOT. I hate zoomers so fucking much youre all braindead morons. Just becauss you can string together words, doesnt mean it makes sense. You can type the words
>that applies everywhere!
But that doesn't actually change reality. Uniquely zoomer phenomenon

>>96318321
lmao

>>96318307
>yes let's put an actual good card (crawler) to make a bad card (tifa) passable

>>96318278
>eldrazi
They look cool to me, but the titans cost a fuckload of money. It looks like any upgrades for an Eldrazi deck are super expensive.

>>96318307
That still makes it boring as fuck. You could also do the exact same deck but better in the form of Ghalta.

>>96318324
a norwood 4 wrote this post

>>96318307
I genuinely cannot. Neither of the Tifa lists posted seem like they would be drawing lots of cards with the middling draw packages
>ermmm but I will ALWAYS have greater good on the field when Tifa is 50+ power xd.
You likely go multiple games without even seeing it lol. Actually i dont even see it in your list so now im doubly confused

>>96318337
>quick guys get these goalposts OUT OF HERE

>>96318330
kind of clunky for a "primary wincon"

>>96318342
>heh, you see, I turned my boring combo deck that kills a player into a boring combo deck that draws 24 cards off Life's Legacy and THEN kills every player
>this makes it based and cool

>primary wincon
>based entirely on 1 (ONE) card in the 99 with no redundancy
you guys don't really do this, right?

>>96318344
green has plenty of creature tutors and plenty of greater good redundancy
landfall is not hard to trigger
a single decent pump spell, equipment or aura gets the ball rolling very quickly.
This is not secret tech, this is just very obviously what you put in a Tifa deck.

>>96318338
Norwood 3 and my fiance is younger than you pal ;)
>>96318344
Also not in anons deck lol

>>96318348
Don't forget its literally NOT in the deck in question
>>96316166
People just saying shit lol. And its an awful "wincon".

you guys are all fucking retarded. the way to play tifa is as a secret commander in golgari, so you have access to reanimate and creature tutors. this guy at commander seems pretty solid and way better than that stupidass psychosis crawler strategy

>>96318365
>no you see you need to add more colors, an entire reanimate package AND a landfall package so you can actually get her power high enough
Hahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha no.

>>96318365
Jarad has way better options than fucking Tifa

you play her in grull because red has easy pump spells so you only 1 or 2 landfall triggers, and can get trample double strike, and extra combats AND power matters cards

>>96318353
>not in his deck
that's on him not on me
I was replying to
>>You present the same play pattern every game.
>>>play Tifa
>>>try to one-shot someone
>>96318348
It's the primary wincon because it's more efficient to kill the table with drain than combat damage. If you have a tutor that's what you go for.
It's like you guys don't understand basic English or something.
So in conclusion there are at least two play patterns you regularly see, not to mention that Ghalta/Selvala/Tifa decks are capable of storming out pretty reliably with aetherflux.
I was a big selvala brostorm player for years, I can attest that these kind of decks are very fun and have multiple ways of winning even when paired down to lower brackets.

You're all wrong, the real trick is to make Tifa secret commander in selesnya so you have protection for when they have it.

>>96318381
>I was a big selvala brostorm player for years
>he played cedh decks
>he unironically called it fucking brostorm
Fucking rofl that deck is boring as shit anon. Yeah no shit one of the most powerful dorks ever printed in the command zone can win at brackets 2 and 3. It's called "pubstomping."

>>96318352
>this is just very obviously what you put in a Tifa deck.
>yes very obviously
>so obvious that edhrec tifa only has greater good at 8% (azusa is 75% btw)
kekw

>>96318393
You can't read and that's not fine.

how would you get access to all the good cards unless you're running wubrg???? idiots

>>96318190
>The Tifa deck is boring as shit aside from that. The flip side of "Do You Have It" decks at the pod is that they themselves are uninteractrive by nature of their game plan. They ask YOU to "have it" while selfishly not "having it" themselves, meaning once they're neutered other stronger, more consistent decks get to go unchecked.
That's called being the aggressor. It's how classic monogreen stomping decks have worked since the beginning of time, back in the old days when River Boa was considered a good card. My Tifa deck will return stronger and better than ever, /edh. Some of your feedback to improve it was actually good. Thank you, anons.

>>96318419
It's fine if you want to attempt bracket 4 slop, it's just never going to be interesting. At most tables I play at you'd spend the entire game doing nothing but getting salty when your commander eats removal and costs 10.

>>96318370
disagree, if i was jarad i'd be fucking tifa

>>96318409
That is genuinely surprising, usually edhrec is at least in the ballpark.
Maybe people just don't like sacrificing their wifu idk.

>>96318427
I have spent my whole life building and playing "interesting" and "creative" decks. Sometimes I just want to beat face with a basic ass aggro stompie deck and tifa finally allows that in edh.

>>96318381
if you're tutoring why wouldn't you just grab commanders plate instead which will be better in 90% of situations

>>96318455
At least play something cool like Skullbriar instead of your fotm slop

>>96318427
Lol rekt
hey ur pretty based, what decks are you working on?

>>96318452
I'd put greater good in my Tifa deck if I owned one.

>slop
Ah yes, the classic, "I should not be taken seriously" tag.

>>96318456
You are in green, genius.
It is a creature.
Commander Plate is not.
Also I would never equate commander plate with crawler but w/e.

>>96318458
Big tits tifa is way cooler than skullbriar

>>96318465
get it's better cousin life's legacy

>>96318452
or maybe it's because people know to put greater good in a commander where the card makes the most sense

>>96318485
cards that also work
Garruk, Primal Hunter
Disciple of Freyalise
Momentous Fall
Rishkar's Expertise
Soul's Majesty

i think there is more but thats just a cursory search

god i want to smell tifa's armpits

>>96318462
I'm kind of lost on where to go next desu. I've been very pleased with a lot of my decks of late. The 5-mana boros Zidane looks enticing, but I'd have to acquire a decent number of dogshit cards to make the threaten aspect functional. That, and a 5-mana legend in Boros is generally not where you want to be.

I've also had my eye on Errant and Giada for ages now. I really like the idea of a flash aggro/control strategy. But to get that deck functional I'd have to drop like $50-100 easy.

>>96318427
I don't ever get salty, emotional or tilt when I play magic, even in tournaments. its a card game I play for fun. It's also an advantage because people think I'm bluffing all the time and make misplays against me because they assume I'm holding answers when my hand is just basic land cards. I advise everyone to follow the non-reactive path of playing mtg. If your deck gets curb stomped or hated out, just play the next game, or change decks. There's no point throwing tantrums or getting salty over a card game.

>>96318493
are you implying people have one copy of greater good but also are playing two mono green stompy decks? wtf is even your post?
personally I think tifa is cooler, numbers get bigger and no need to recast plus it gets you using landfall cards that you normally wouldnt in a higher power ghalta deck.
If I wasn't a staunch UB hater, I'd be tempted to build like a tier 3 or low tier 4 Tifa deck after all of this. I miss my selvala sometimes.

>>96318508
I'll put on a wig and let you smell my armpits uwu

>>96318523
what i'm outright saying is that mono green tifa, as casually bad as she is (naya tifa is ofc stronger and more interesting), is built in a specific way and you claiming that greater good is "obviously" a staple in her deck is flat out wrong

>>96318549
It was obvious to me, I guess not everyone has connected the dots yet. Give it time, they will.

>>96318509
Oh, fuck. And Bohn, Beguiling Balladeer. That card's cool as fuck. I dunno how I'd build him though.

Tifa is the most polarizing card on /edh

>>96318580
It's an excellent litmus for shit taste. I know to just nod along when LGS NPCs begin gushing about their favorite Final Fantasy commander.

>>96318542
aight nigga you ruined it

>>96318597
>It's an excellent litmus for shit taste. I know to just nod along when LGS NPCs begin gushing about their favorite Final Fantasy commander.
imagine having a casual conversation and some freak is sitting there seething silently, imagining the 4chan post he's gonna write later about you

Looking back on it, these extended art cards actually make my deck look uglier.
Fuck I gotta get the other printings.

>>96318650
Many such cases. Sad!

>>96318658
loran's just an ugly broad
use the correct version

>>96318674
I love ff9 but I hate UB.
I am doomed to ugly Loran.

>>96318696
nigga just play the damn card

>hijacks your card game
Nothing personal, kid

>>96318381
>1/2/3 commanders with nothing in common with eachother
Cool?
>>96318409
Unironically its because FFfags are dogshit at magic and dont wanna sac their precious waifu
>>96318674
But the Loran art is infinitely better than this screenshotshit

>>96318850
>commanders with nothing in common with each other
They have a lot in common, namely the mono green high power to draw archetype. Read the thread for more information.

>>96314566 (OP)
Looking for feedback on this list.
https://moxfield.com/decks/i-nWWdC-XEyv-dLaSiZLvw

The intent is to kingmake someone and then be able to win the 1v1 at the end.
I don't have much "politics" experience so this is my attempt to try and get into it.
I feel like the deck lacks a good wincon outside of it's big assholes.
I already know the deck lacks boardwipes but I'm sure I can find a few slots for such later.
I feel like I started with a vision but ended up losing it somewhere along the line so maybe someone can help course correct me.

My LGS's players are more on the casual side and it's a lot of midrange tribal decks if that means anything for context of a playing field. There's a few combo decks but I'd ideally be kingmaking something I know I can attempt to beat later in order to remove an identified combo deck and encourage the 'king' to kill them early.

Stupid and fun card recs are also welcome and appreciated.

>>96318865
Kingmaking the 1v1 requires payoffs to your opponent having a better board than you. My Jon Irenicus deck runs effects like Reins of Power for this reason.

>>96318859
Only one of these commanders draw cards anon. And any green can be pumped. Nothing in common as I said

>>96318850
>dont wanna sac their precious waifu
Based

>>96318897
If you aren't even going to bother reading the thread, don't reply.

>>96318865
Run Mutinous Massacre and Insurrection, great against creature decks

>>96318427
>bracket 4
wut

>>96318658
The most pimp thing you can do these days is play original printings in foil.
Hell, I'd take original non-foils over any of the 100's of styles of alt arts they have been doing.

>>96318940
It's one of those decks too bad for bracket 4 but too unpleasant for bracket 3. It exists in a no man's land of commanders no one wants to play with.

>>96318953
>too unpleasant for bracket 3
wew

>>96318221
Quite a bit different than mine, but I like the idea of making big boys and just exploding.
The only thing I can really recommend is possibly songbirds blessing and retether.
Highly recommend some system to help keep track of your copies though. Like I printed off 10 proxies of each aura because it can become a real headache to keep track with lots of bodies out.

>>96318953
It's not bracket 4 at all, It's an average bracket 3 deck that's not very good that for some reason causes autists to tilt, just like Fynn the Fangbearer.

>>96318096
>mfw the cEDH pod starts to politic

>>96318979
>12 hour cedh tournament finals game

>>96318979
>mfw the cEDH pod starts to politic
can you really blame them though given that cedh is just a mexican standoff?

>tfw quit right before triomes were printed
Well, I'm back now...
that will teach me to ignore spoiler season.

>>96319018
Triomes are mediocre

>>96319013
[Spoiler]I used to play targeted discard in grenzo for just this reason[/Spoiler]

>>96319027
fuck

>>96319018
>enters the battlefield tapped

>>96319027
it's hilarious that wotc STILL hasn't created an edh version of thoughtseize where all opponents reveal their hands

>>96319023
>>96319034
I'm playing the khans tri-lands in a bunch of decks, would be nice to be able to fetch them on off turns.

>>96319037
>1 mana reveal 3 hands discard 3 cards
Probably because this is an absurd card.

>>96319037
I am looking into my Crystal Ball
it will be 3 cmc
and come on a flicker able body

>>96319047
the mana cost will also be trippled {2}{B}

>>96319047
>>96319057
1 mana all opponents reveal their hands choose 1 of them and that player discards that card is fair in cedh

>>96319072
The information alone would almost be worth 1 mana.

>>96319080
you make this sound like a bad thing given the other broken cards in cedh

>>96319084
no i am salivating just thinking about it

>>96319091
ikr it's such a slam dunk of a card and wotc for some reason can't pull the trigger

>>96318865
Poster here with one thing I forgot to put in the post.
I'm stupid when it comes to building land bases. I would really love help maybe making it a tad more interesting. I was thinking of including more of the crime/desert ping lands maybe?
Also yay or nay on Cricible of Worlds? My thought is that if I get it, it lets me skip out on adding lands from the commander's draw and keey all the gas. Or is this thinking dumb?

>>96319106
In theory, it sounds pretty good. Proxy it out and give it a shot. Crucible is a strong card in any deck that can reliably put lands in a graveyard.
captcha: YAAAA

>>96318264
Why do noobs and tards hate combo? It's a fundamental element of MtG since the game started. Control-Combo-Midrange-Aggro- that's what the game is all about.

>>96319152
Because most combo decks are just 'my commander plus 1 or 2 other cards that go infinite and end the game instantly'

>>96319080
Urza's Glasses
>Telepathy
Valki

>>96319106
Crucible of Worlds used to be okay, but commander is a LOT faster these days. I'd only recommend it in decks with multiple land drops, and even then those are in green which has way better options now.

Your mana base is solid, and I wouldn't try to make it "interesting" for the sake of it. My real recommendations would be to cut down on the karoo lands. Three is a bit much.
They're okay in a slower meta because they represent card advantage and you have time to set up. But they're super dead most of the time and you would rather have untapped lands.

I'm also not a huge fan of filter lands. Do you own the painlands? They're probably my favorite budget mana lands overall.

>>96319152
Commander is not like other formats. In 1v1 60-card, sure. Combo away. Commander is at its most interesting when the win has context. Player X did this, so player Y played that, allowing player Z to win the game when he did something else.

No one will ever remember the game where you played sac outlet, combo piece, game. Everything the other players did prior to what you did was infinitely more interesting than the anticlimax.

>>96319162
>1 mana tap to look at one hand
>1 mana reveal yours as well
>2 mana
So yes, seeing all your opponents hands without revealing yours is worth more than 1 mana

>>96319159
>Because most combo decks are just 'my commander plus 1 or 2 other cards that go infinite and end the game instantly'
it's ridiculous that gavin in his infinite wisdom did not realize that it's the commander being a combo piece that ruins the "muh no tutors" sentiment of casual edh
thanks baldie

>>96319106
If you're running Surveil stuff or ways to throw lands into the graveyard, Crucible can be good.

>>96319170
I had to play against a deck that was just trying to run as many forced sac effects as possible, and it really sucked.

>>96319191
Yeah it's quite tiresome to sit down with 3 people, look at their commanders, and immediately be able to tell that their game plan is just 'keep my commander out until I draw the combo piece and then try to combo off in the hopes that nobody has the interaction I need'

>>96319177
telepathy doesn't reveal your hand.

>>96319162
I have seen telepathy played in cedh. Which is why I said almost worth, cause it was good but reportedly not worth the card in hand.

>>96319152
Combo doesnt care about inflated life totals and most times doesnt care how many opponents you have

>>96319159
Wah wah wah cry harder old man

>>96319255
That's why combo is based

>>96319289
>get with the times old man
this is the same kind of guy that will whine about sweating on casual pods and cedh in general btw

>>96315790
6 is one of the best RPGs ever made can't say anything about the rest of the series though

You do play the optimal curve, right?

>>96319307
if i was playing boomer edh yeah i guess

>>96319321
you mean if math were real

>>96319152
>>96319159
This. It's not fun, creative or impressive. It's just "try to win as fast as possible with little to no interaction with the other three players." It's fine once in a while if everyone else is playing the same type of deck and you like that, but it's against the spirit of the format where you want to have fun, interactions and games that usually go past turn 4.

>>96319292
I find it dull, personally.

to the combo whiners ITT: are you guys really going to mald like babies if i happened to pull off bolas's ult thru counter doublers because you guys couldn't handle a such a telegraphed play and remove bolas/put a legendary creature/pw in play

>>96319343
>creative or impressive.
Combo is fine when it is creative and or impressive.
The first time I got stormed out by a jeleva deck I was blow away. That deck is super sick, idk what it looks like these days but the moxnix version was at least able to interacted with.

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/moxnixs-jeleva-storm-2/

https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/competitive-commander-cedh/572535-jeleva-grixis-storm-retired

>>96319471
Most doubling effects are pretty cringe in general.
I think most players would be annoyed if you put down a card that basically says 'you win the game if nobody has instant speed planeswalker removal'.

>>96319471
list?

>>96319495
>lab maniac and all those tutors

it's shit and cringe

>>96319471
are you playing four-color planeswalkers?

>>96319307
This is deck and gameplan dependent though? Heck even assuming you always wanna play your commander on curve is a retarded assumption. What braindead nogames faggot made this lol >>96319471
This is commander why would I not have a legendary creature in play...?

I like this a lot
This set gives me hope like the original Avatar did then Korra came along and fucking ruined the world building

>>96319505
I really enjoyed playing against it and watching him play on youtube.
There are just enough windows of opportunity to make it fun to play against in a way that thoracle isnt. I have no doubt in my mind that he would have used thoracle though which would have made the deck super cringe.

>>96319521
how do you even get such low res images of mtg cards?
that's impressive

>>96319521
and how about we find out what this says?

>>96319502
>list?
2 tutors and aetheric amplifier
Are you gonna cry about that?

>>96319495
This is what cedhfags think of as "fun"

>>96319531
>>96319532
Fuck you not much to work with right now eat your fucking carrots fags

>>96319517
>This is deck and gameplan dependent though?
Grixis kill things.dec?
Is that what's going to trigger you?

>>96319307
I recently came back to EDH and checked in on the latest command zone (cringe I know) deck building template. They were saying how much better their decks ran with a large amount of 1 and 2 drops, and fewer 3-7 drops.
Looking at my most successful decks, I find it hard to believe that the average deckbuilder is going to squeeze enough juice out of 1's and 2's when 3's are so impactful and mana dorks are so plentiful.

>>96315296
Probably a bad pic

>>96319574
Unfortunately another commander with a miserable play pattern. No one can ever let you control your commander for fear that you're randomly going to kill them.

>>96319574
>an unironic satoru + blightsteel
no one likes playing against you

>>96316114
Does this reduce everyone's spells?

>>96319496
>Most doubling effects are pretty cringe in general.
Man you really hate mono red huh?

>>96315296
The optimize fags >>96319307 fear the 33 land chad

>>96319526
Yeah I feel like this deck is just 'I'm totally not using Thoracle, guys!' even though the wincon is exactly the same as how Thoracle works.

>>96319574
Remove Blightsteel and maybe people would be willing to play against this deck more than once, I can't imagine anyone is willing to play more than one game against you after you ninjitsu out Blighsteel and kill them.

>>96319598
Mono red in commander? Considering it's the worst color, it's fine. I'm talking about token doublers and +1/+1 doublers, though ETB/trigger doublers are also pretty awful.

>>96319599
this deck unironically looks unplayable, not because of lands but because you have no strategy? it's like you took a list of cards people said were good and put them all together with no way to actually win a game.

>>96319616
Chud Tzu says 'if your strategy is too stupid to predict, your strategy cannot be countered'

>>96319607
>I'm talking about token doublers and +1/+1 doublers, though ETB/trigger doublers are also pretty awful.
So loyalty doublers should be fine right?
Liliana dreadhorde general ult is a game ender btw

>>96319616
>it's like you took a list of cards people said were good and put them all together with no way to actually win a game.
the edhrec special

>>96319626
Nobody likes planeswalkers, anon. Cheating out their ults via loyalty doubling and other shenanigans is not gonna make people like them any more.

>>96319599
Almost based if you didn't decide to make your stax deck a secret combo deck.

>>96319616
This is why youre lower on the Food Chain

lol anybody see the article on EDHREC about "5 Magic characters who deserved better"

One of them being Garruk where he of course mentions Triump of Ferocity. But he doesn't show the card or even links to it because the art is apparently so violent and disturbing he dare not show it.
Yet the same card game has images of people being decapitated, vile monsters, risen dead corpses and other brutal shit. The main image of the article is a creature literally being torn limb from limb.
But the image of Garruk, attacking an evil necromancer who just cursed him, is apparently way too violent for a PG13 game??
Your comment would at best be deleted if you mention anything about it too. And the other lunatics who comment on everything would pile on you saying you're a fucking bigot or some shit.
What the fuck is wrong with people?

Magus of the gate
Magus of the workshop
Magus of the chains
Magus of the sword
Magus of the valley
magus of the lotus

>>96319543
Combo is patrician

>>96319659
I thought that for my first year or two of commander. Enjoy that sense of novelty while it lasts.