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Caveman painting edition

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Make custom cards
https://magicseteditor.boards.net
https://mtg.design
https://mtgcardsmith.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ
Post those cards that made your opponents read it a second time.

Which decks feels like this?

>>96345352 (OP)
>Post those cards that made your opponents read it a second time.
It's actually pathetic how few people get it the first time.
Or how many times they give me two lands or two mana dorks

>>96345373
The memeoplasm

>>96345389
I want gunfire and artillery

>>96345373
Heliod 1, ft Walking Ballista.

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

>>96345414
guns are forbidden
for artillery, ziatora

>>96345373
1 man encased in steel tomb acting as both a shield and a prison? I guess Voltron? You’ll have 1 unit protected from everything but will never get to attack with him, you’ll spend hundreds of dollars in full art swords of X/Y knowing that as soon as you move to equip sword your commander is going to get swords to plowshared for the 5th time. Appeal to the table all you want about the blue player (the tyranids) drawing 50 cards, no one will listen, you have a 4/4 that’s was about to become a 6/6 that’s so much more scary.

I really like this lil nigga

>nobody in friend group plays counterspells and only minimal board wipes and interaction
>can't play my aggro decks because barely anyone ever stops me and it's completely one-sided in at least 2 out of 3 games
weak men create hard times

>>96345487
did I just hear 6/6? WTF? I tap 3 mana and chaos warp your arcane signet

>>96345510
yeah he cute you my guy

>>96345510
Decks with little robot niggas like this?

>the card that has a thing that I'm searching for is a UB
It's over.....

>>96345437
Thats a really nice art style

>use her as card an counter engine while letting the weakest player draw cards
>no synergies for her card draw
>no counterspells
>just low cmc spells for guaranteed draw trigger during my turn
I like her. reminds me a lot of rocco.

>>96345749
Cute bnuuy. It's a shame this art is a gorillion dollars, most proxies I've seen don't do this foiling well.

>>96345749
Sounds dumb

>she doesn't play picrel on her deck
explain yourself.
its also my answer to:
>tq

>>96345844
>swamphome
nice.

>>96345613
Eggman

>Tq
This card caused intense seething at my lgs when I used it in my xenogos deck to hate a Tatyova player out of the game.

>>96345997
love seeing old jank like this cause seething

>>96345352 (OP)
>Post those cards that made your opponents read it a second time.
I still have to read it too despite playing with it for like two years almost

>>96345352 (OP)
>>TQ
>Post those cards that made your opponents read it a second time.
Also most other pile based cards.

People always miss the may

>>96346239
>Ignore this effect
Which effect?

>putting based MBT in with an annoying woman and a weird tranny
Prof did him so dirty

>>96346484
Probably the one the card is telling you to do if you pay 3 numbnuts

What's /edhg/'s opinion on him?
Library search and strong creatures sound fun

In line for the festival in a box because I'm a good little goy
>>96345384
Thinking about slipping this into my "oops all bombs" Temur deck. Basically only high impact cards, even the dorks are gas so I think it'll be fun.

>>96346655
The card is good even if they give you a rock, a dork and a land
Anything else is gravy

>>96346632
Hes one of the MTGO edh gauntlet deck and the only one worth playing
My dumbass picked blue. I could see it being pretty dope at most brackets.
But id ur going to play mono green its /edhg/ law that you play the green queen

>>96346655
Is it khan?

>cheaper to import straight from japan than to buy it locally or on cardmarket
I love globalism and cheap yen/dollars.

>>96346735
What card is that even?

>>96346783
>gatherer is now faster than scryfall
grim times

>>96346794
Been like that for at least 6 months. Scryfall is now fucking dogshit, I hate trying to use it

>>96346690
And what is the green queen?

>>96346803
glad you asked

>>96346803
None other

>>96346667
Yeah that's a fair point. I gotta retool it around a little anyway to make opening card draw and ramp a little more consistent
>>96346704
>Is it khan?
Idk what card you mean but I'm running picrel because I got it at prerelease and like having a huge hard to remove freak in the zone. The game plan being to use blinks and copies to repeat powerful creature etbs

>>96346010
I love it too.
Nuked his scute swarm, tatyova, and oracle of muldaya, a few 1/1 insects and the rest into him. He had a big sharty after that, had to hold the game up for 15 mins while he researched how I couldn't do what I did. He scooped when he couldn't find anything.

>>96346810
>posting the royal footwasher

>hey anon, block my creature so I can kill problematic creature from other guy
would you block my 10/10 trample?

>>96346890
>enchanted creature deals no combat damage
Why would you include "10/10 trample" in your post when it doesn't matter?

>>96346902
I thank you for your trust in my word.

>>96346902
>you may
Very trusting of you anon.

>>96346890
Destroying trust is almost never worth it in commander.

>>96346953
I don't play with randos at the LGS, only friends. We don't break our promises

>>96346989
>attacks you with said creature
>say nothing
>stare at you
well? what will it be?

>>96346992
This isn't gonna be some "haha gotcha!" moment, anon. Not everyone is a piece of shit like you.

>>96345836
>SNEED

>>96346992
Path

>>96346735
Just play a proxy at that point instead of forcing everyone to ask what the moonrunes mean every turn

Anons, in a mono black aristocratic deck, whats a good ammount of sac cards? I have Ashnolds Altar, new Braids,Phyrexan altar,Yawgmoth,Umbral Collar Zealot,Ghoulcaller Gisa. Too many? Not enough? What is recommend? Ive never built a aristocratics deck

>>96347110
I have 11 in Atla Palani and I'll still have games without seeing any before like T6-7. So.. a lot, if you need them ASAP. Or just run a shitload of tutors

>>96347110
Depends on the commander. Ghoulcaller Gisa is also more a wincon than a sac outlet. Warren Soultrader is super pushed, and if you aren't going infinite I think it's unironically better than Phyrexian Altar.

>>96345352 (OP)
>Post those cards that made your opponents read it a second time.

>>96346810
She is perfect. My little Jap forest princess.

>>96347132
>>96347141
Thanks anons. Vincent is the commander. Definitely need a Soultrader. What is a good ammount of Token makers to run?

>>96346850
I meant surrak dragonclaw
Who are you using? No pic

>>96346962
>Destroying trust is almost never worth it in commander.

>>96347110
>mono black aristocratic deck
very original, anon.

>>96347110
I use erebos
I love that deck
>>96347224
Sue me its beautiful

>>96347224
Ive never seen someone running Vincent as the commander. I have various decks that all do something different, my current build is aristocratics. Suck my dick from behind, or suggest some cards

>>9634689
sure, I'll block with my 0/20 defender

>>96346810
Azusa is the Green Queen's bitch who exists to serve her landfall. Also her name is Princess Sarah now.
>>96346803
You know who

Aetherdrift was a bad set but I feel like it had a premise that could work. It just ended up being poorly executed

>>96347282
They fucked up big tine not giving us a Fast & the Furious secret lair

Played planechase with my friends for the first time and we had a blast. I'm actually surprised by how much we enjoyed it. Granted, we're firmly bracket 2 casuals so it works really well for us. It's fun having a chaotic element to the game, but it's also surprisingly rewarding to have a universal mana sink for players to use in case they don't have anything better to do

>>96347325
Yea its definitely worth trying out, it gets a bit chaotic in a good way

>>96347325
Bracket 2 planechase is awesome

>>96347247
What are some cards that are must have for erebos? I have him in the 99

>>96347279
I don’t, nor do I recognize Generic Anime Bitch #37

>>96347355
Aside from the typical sac -> ping cards I like using bottomless pit, necrogen mists and like 6 other discard at upkeep type spells
I still try to win with exsanguinate or rise of the dank realms

Played the jeskai precon from EoE yesterday and it's such a good deck. Everything works so well together out of the box, it's a really impressive precon

>>96347372
>pulled durectly from your pornhub search history
Dont be coy!

>>96347372
Educate yourself about the queen of mono green, noob

>>96347383
Thoughts on Jadar, Ghoulcaller of Nephalia? I know hes well liked, but i dont understand the hype, it just seems like a basic token maker

>>96347390
Wow it only took 14 years of failing and the ability to print any cards they want directly into our format for them to make a functional deck!

Alright /edgh/, you seem to fancy yourselves quite the deckbuilders so I have a challenge for you.

This is a decklist and list of cards I found in my bulk that all vaguely center around the theme of "vampire", your challenge is to build the most functional EDH deck out of this list and explain how you're meant to win.
The rules are simple, use the cards provided within the mainboard or sideboard, if additions are needed your budget is 25$ (TCGplayer price)
Lets see how you do:
https://moxfield.com/decks/pavNSk_CVEiG3c_hdjEWGQ

HARD MODE: no infinite combos

>>96347415
I play it and a few other worse Ophiomancers
They do their jobs no complaints

>>96347409
>UBshit
No thanks.

>>96347422
We're not going to build your gay vampire deck for you, noob

>>96347429
sounds like something someone who can't build a gay vampire deck would say

Got chaos warped and in response I brainstormed omniscience onto the field, other players got mad at me

>>96347282
>Mario Kart:the set
>had potential
el
oh
el
also:
>flat chandra

>>96347422
>sloptranny needs us to explain to him how to win with a top 3 commander

vehicles are lame
as such, a set based on vehicles is going to be lame

>>96347438
Brainstorm won't let you get Omniscience into the field with Chaos Warp.

>>96347454
>average /edhg/ poster can't explain how to win with a top 3 commander
sounds about right

>>96347408
Sorry, I only get my Tifa media from Italian parliament.

>>96347453
Should have had based Matt Cavotta do the art. He would have drawn her correctly.

>>96347408
>tfw Tifa should've been Golgari because 99% of her porn is blacked

>>96347517
she would be selesnya then

>>96347436
You're a fag, and also lazy. Build your own deck, scrub.

>>96347547
post decklist

>>96347422
Paypal me 25 USD and I'll build you your deck, otherwise make it yourself.

>>96347517
Why do you watch Tifa Porn?
>>96347484
Square Enix confirmed Tifa is Japanese

>>96347552
Post yours, lazy vampire bitch.

>>96347554
nta but what else is the average edhg poster doing if not deckbuilding, posting about tifa being BLACKED? at least this guy asked about something relevant to the game

>>96345487
>marches out the usual talking points about Voltron to call it shit… yet again

I’m not gonna say you’re wrong, but I will say that anyone with half a brain could figure out ways around these problems.

Or, ya know, build your deck with a Plan B in mind.

>>96347572
ok
https://moxfield.com/decks/hXW5pOBeP0O67VofVCoM_A

>>96347580
I'm building MY decks and talking about MY cards and listening to other players do the same thing.

If you got a list and need cuts, slam that shit in here and I'll look at it, but I'm not gonna scrabble through a pile to build a commander that is mentioned almost daily in thread.

Like fuck dude he's mardu with an eminence ability that makes you 1/1s when you play vampires. You build him wide or you build him aristocrats or you build him both.

>>96347606
post deck

>>96347422
I got your list for you:
-33 Plains
-33 Swamp
-33 Mountain
It's well under the budget range while being immune to mana screw.

Also has the advantage of being more creative than the typical Edgar slop you usually see.

>>96347438
Dumbass lmao

>>96347215
I don't understand your meme.

>>96347617
>99 basics
>less than 25$ (plus shipping)
not a chance

>>96347438
Yeah because chaos warp shuffles as part of the effect, specifically so you can't stack your deck

>>96347626
You pay for basics? I just steal them from my LGS.

>>96347614
I'm currently grinding through a sultai mutate deck with Xavier Sal at the helm. Gameplan is to take busted legendary creatures, mutate over them and/or make tokens of them to then proliferate wacky creatures.

https://archidekt.com/decks/9618639/theyre_more_legendary_guidelines_xavier_sal_infested_captain

I don't want to pay 70 bucks for Billy Bristles though, so I'm looking at other options.

>>96347638
Populate. Populate the tokens, proliferate the tokens to populate more tokens.

Fuck it's a mouthful keeping up with all the shit going on under the hood here.

We are you like this

>>96347580
I build my own decks, I don't build decks for lazy fags who can't be bothered to build their own.

>>96347650
FUCK. PROLIFERATE THE COUNTERS TO POPULATE THE TOKENS.

>>96347422
>build my gay deck for me
No lol

>>96347623
its ok bracket 2 hero, but to make it clear for you, you always betray trust in EDH games if you plan on winning.

>>96347438
How on earth do you think this worked anon?

>>96347678
And then no one will trust you again and you'll whine 25 games later that they didn't hit what you thought was the threat. Because they don't trust you. But I assume you don't have friends and just play in random groups where you can repeatedly do this and not suffer for it in the next several games.

>>96347580
>nta but let me go to bat for this lazy nigger who tried to play to random people's ego to get them to do xer job for xer

>>96347636
>I just steal them from my LGS
im not picrel so i cant relate to this.

>>96347686
He thought he could Brainstorm "in response" to the shuffle mid resolution.

>>96347678
Very nogames post you love to see the larps that take place here

Is to too one trick pony to be fun for a longer period of time?

>>96347695
Not required. Theft is universal.

>>96347710
Not per capita

>>96347706
As someone who has played as and against him, yes
you will get very exasperated opoonents who just either mentally check out until they topdeck and answer or concede in bordem because your entire gameplay revolves around them not being able to answer.

If you have to loudly and annoyingly claim and force that your favorite card is the "king" or "queen", they aren't
Good cards stand on their own, the don't need avatarfagging retards to champion them.
You're a joke, your commander is trash.

>>96347422
Im stoked, its going to take me some time but my submission is coming!

>>96347727
>immigrants come in and try to force their culture over nativist culture
Sounds about right get these gook loving NIGGERS. Out of here

>>96347727
My wife is a queen because I am a king.
>>96347422
Turb creature cards sideways.

>>96347706
It's just a bad card i dont see this being fun ever.

>>96347733
I take it back I misread the post
Tribal decks build themselves, literally put the minimal effort into building it yourself

>>96347719
If you want to continue an argument, reply to it. Doing this makes it seem like you wanted the last word but wanted to ensure the person didn't see it to reply to you.

>>96347714
That's only because whities don't get caught.

>>96347727
>your brain on democracy

My deck is 98 lands, The War Doctor, and Ryan Sinclair.
I will one shot your face.

>>96347746
>Tribal decks build themselves, literally put the minimal effort into building it yourself
Maybe small tribes. Less so huge tribes.

>>96347727
I am a Burger King and my dragon wife (male) is my Burger Queen.

>>96347757
There is nothing about that post that is "democratic" in fact it is a very aristocratic in mindset. What is greater, will stand out on its own, by virtue of what it is.

Since we're talking about Vampire decks, I'd love some opinions on mine
https://moxfield.com/decks/Hz0U2kM2Jka4-mWHgqdC6w
The theme is Vampires and Angels, and the goal is to combine Warstorm Surge triggers with lifelink creatures and Sanguine Bond effects. Cheap or free lifegain e.g. Venser's Journal can make Licia cost only Mardu, then I can use fight effects on her and something else which would make her deal damage so I gain more life, then she's still cheap to cast if she dies. The next turn I need a big boost to make her cheap and kick things off again, but another lifelink creature or upkeep lifelink gain can help with that.
What I want your opinion on is do I have enough cheap card draw, and enough interaction, and is there anything else obvious I'm missing? I feel like I have a good amount of draw spells but still might benefit from things like Revitalise, which you'll see in the Considering section.
Finally, you'll see there are a few silly spells like Heroes Remembered. Obviously it would be a better deck if I cut them, but I don't really want to. Thanks for reading.

>>96347746
>>96347454
>>96347617
To be fair the poster never said anyone actually had to build markov, there's like 7 commanders in that list

>>96347776
All tribes. you cut your available cards down by over 99%.

>>96347787
>you think you get a vote
>the queen doesn't care and ascends the throne anyway

>>96347698
I meant after the shuffle

>>96347798
did that guy even ask for vampire tribal? looking through the bulk theres a shit ton of non-vampire cards in there that just look like aristocrat shit
>Sephiroth
>Al Bhed Savages
>Gravecrawler

>>96347820
But Doctor...
I AM the control deck.

>>96347817
>vampire theme
>b...but not tribal
Dont play dumb

>>96347727
And you seem to be a troon who hates hot girls and boobs.

>>96347823
Oh sick me too
I exist to shit on build around me value decks

If he's built tribal is it a 1 or a 2?

>>96347826
Hell of a strawman, but I guess as a frothing coomlord that's all that you can muster.

>>96347824
You're right, i'll just build a mono black sephiroth list out of his bulk

>>96347810
Not him. No one mentioned voting. You fundamentally do not understand the mindsets at play here.

>>96347817
You should build the fag's deck for him considering how much effort you've already put in to defending him.

>>96347826
Do people really find this attractive? This has the facial structure of a man with bug eyes lol

>>96347581
I'm really REALLY tempted to put goodstuff like toski in my decks but the synergistic cards are just too fun and enable all kinds of shenanigans

>>96347841
>Defending
all I said is that you don't need to build vampire tribal with that bulk, the average edhfag sees a top commander on EDHrec and automatically assumes they HAVE to build it

>>96347838
Hes mad he didnt get a say (a vote), all Tifa needs is the divine right to ruke, which she has.

>>96347870
If you need to keep repeating it its very clear she does not have the aristocratic qualities anon. As I said, you are woefully uneducated on the mindsets youre trying to ape

>>96347864
If you wanted the list to be more interesting, pull 1000 random cards from your bulk
Instead you dropped a shitlist and asked for cuts and $25 of future upgrades.
We're not stupid.

>>96347896
Stay mad lol

>>96347916
who are you talking to

>>96347930
Im assuming anyone retarded enough to defend that list is just samefagging

Favorite Group slug/ discard effects? Games have been taking too long and I want to change that

>>96347967
Sire on insanity

>>96347967
Slug and Discard will prolong games, hwat are you smoking?

>>96347967
I cast Primal Surge. Response?

>>96347967
painful quandry

>>96347896
Silence, heretic. Bend the knee to the Green Queen and accept your fate.

>>96347967
my goto for group slug is ojer axonil. he keeps games extremely short and is one massive interaction check. you can't remove my shit? you are dead by turn 5-6 without me doing much.

>the hogaak player drops hermit druid t2
>got no creature removal in hand
>beg the table to kill this thing RIGHT NOW
>table casts ramp instead of removal
>hogaak player is off to value town
I fucking hate my LGS.

>>96348012
There is a type of player who cannot conceive of anything being a threat if it isn't a big power number on a creature on the board.

>>96347967
kinda weird, but absolute kino

>>96348021
>its a cEDH player in the closet episode

>>96348012
bad threat assessment is genuinely one of the worst things about playing with randoms

>>96348012
>I didn't have it
deserved

>>96348070
if hermit druid were an artifact I would've had it.

>>96348021
>>96348033
wrong reply, im sorry anon kun
>>96348010
i meant this goy

>>96345818
Still one of the coolest effects theyve ever made. Very simple but changes the game when he comes down.

>>96348012
im glad i have my playgroup and im allowed to run and untap with this thin.
but they know i still run 19 basics

>>96348021
>have nothing left on board but a vanilla 8/8, while my opponents have plenty of blocks
>still am targeted despite another player drawing a shitton of cards each turn

>>96347967
We will all be participating in combat today.

>>96348092
ojer axonil is cedh?

>>96348097
tempting licid on this makes me coom. then taking it off just before damage to keep it around so I only need to reanimate the obliterator for another round
that or giving it flash against blashphemous act

>TQ
Its mostly because I do animation shenanigans with it

>>96348141
Yeah in golgari he's kill on sight. Especially with all the instant speed fight spells.
Licids are a funny archetype, they should make more of them.

>>96348021
>managed to get manafucked in gruul
>sit on 4 lands, a beanstalk and nothing but protection and 5cmc spells
>niv mizzet player is 1 turn away from casting his combo
>jenova decides to destroy 2 of my lands and passes to niv mizzet
>niv mizzet combos off and wins

>>96345373
The warhammer 40k precons I guess

>>96348159
Forgot to post the actual card

>TQ
I use a proxy for the backside because people took an eternity to study the card every time

>>96347831
If your deck has an actual gameplay strategy such as a commander that facilitates playing a certain type of creature, its probably not bracket 1. Almost no real decks are actually bracket 1, bracket 1 only exists for shit like "chair tribal" where the whole point of the deck is that there's a chair in the artwork of every card in the deck

>>96348202
I used to think this was a dinosaur from the thumbnail. With the lady in the center being the big dino head.

>>96348211
Broadly I think the best way to consider Bracket 1 is the level where decks are not actually being built. The example of chair or hat tribal is funny, but at any level beyond a joke its just vocabulary to describe "a pile that does not even perform at the level of a precon". You can make that intentionally and even have fun at it, but knowing what a one is will be most important when you are building a 2 in the same sense that knowing what a 5 is is most important when you are building a 4.

>>96347636
any /edhg/ users remember the guy that had a meltdown about how his LGS started charging him for basic lands because he was taking too many

if a deck beats mine it's a goodslop pile lacking in sovl

if a deck loses to mine it's because of my superior skill and intellect

>>96348246
Mono White Darien is always soul regardless of winning or losing.

>>96348171
need this for yorion

If you're curious about the lore behind the upcoming Avatar cards, here's a quick summary of the series:
>>96346131

>>96348221
I still just view her as some kind of big snake

>>96348237
did you really fall for a shitpost?

>>96345352 (OP)
People just nod and go along with it.

>>96348237
He was right

>>96348332
don't piss me off retard, that was one of the funny posts people were making during that 3 day long shitstorm. had to dig in my trash bin just to find one of the screenshots of the actual guy

>>96348348
despite the autistic discussion, he's not wrong, isn't he? the entire hobby is based on ripping off nerds.

>>96345352 (OP)
Integral to establishing a lock in my Keiga/Yosei decks.

is stacking extra combat turns in bracket 2 pubstomping?

>>96348348
Given how this guy acted, the length of time he spent complaining, and the fact he has to reply to every single post with a smug retardation, this is the same guy who a week or so ago threw a schizo melty because he couldn't interpret the Hasbro quarterly report when it was shown to him to prove they did infact make 200 million from FF

>>96348473
>200 million from FF
grim. in universe is fucking over.

>>96348391
>I've never seen this card, never heard of it, why it seems really powerful
>Read the errata, it's symmetrical
Ah.

>>96348472
I consider it the same as chaining extra turns. If you take 10 combats and just kill the whole table it's really no different than if you looped time walk and did the same thing.

>>96348483
It was 200 million day one sales (which technically account for preorders) its much much high over all.

is it even possible to make a temur deck that isn't a braindead value engine?

>>96348518
You can do gruul stompy with counterspells but that's not super exciting either

>>96348160
one day they'll put him in mld/bracket 4 hell and I'll be sad

>>96348518
I play RUG dedicated Splintertwin based on how the modern deck *felt* right before the ban.
So no it's not a value engine but is it any better? probs nobs.

>>96348497
>chaining extra turns
>in blue
>slow as fuck untap/upkeep/draw
>always reconsidering their """""options""""" either draw more cards or slightly inconvenience another players board
>HMMMMMMMMMM x10
>flicker cards nervously
>attack for 2
>decide to draw more cards
>another minute long HHHMMMMMM ensues
>fat drops of sweat start building up on that players forehead
>cast another creature with shit stats for combat
>end turn, go to the next, rinse repeat

give me a chained extra combat deck any time, extra turns is so ass

>>96348391
The coolest deck I ever ran into in the wild was a Kresh the bloodbraid deck that ran a lot of warrior and elemental synergies including a bunch of evoke creatures
the deck had no right being as cohesive as it was but lifeline was a big part of what made it tick

>>96348472
how many are we talking?

>>96348544
>mfw a friend always overplays his fucking game winning turn instead of just going for attacks
he just cant take a hint, we told him multiple times to just wrap it up while we were already shuffling for next games. he also happens to love blue
guess his nationality

>>96348558
white like 99% of magic players

>>96348558
French

>>96348561
white isnt a nation... yet...

>>96348553
on average? probably 2. but can be 4+ with stuff like icetill explorer.
>>96348497
I play xenagos, so I can kill the table with moraug and 3-4 land drops

>>96348570
white with extra steps

>>96348513
christ

>>96348472
>chaining extra combats
>in red
>slow as fuck untapping of right creatures/beginning of combat/declare attackers
>always reconsidering their """""blockers""""" either force more blockers or slightly inconvenience another players board
>HMMMMMMMMMM x10
>taps creatures nervously
>attack for 20
>decide to untap more creatures
>another minute long HHHMMMMMM ensues
>fat drops of sweat start building up on that players forehead
>cast another creature with good stats for combat
>end combat, go to the next combat, rinse repeat

give me a chained extra turn deck any time, extra combat is so ass

>>96348574
probably fine, you will know if it's not assuming you have even the most basic of social skills.

>>96348472
There is infinite* combats on the Aetherdrift precon.

>>96348544
The question was if looping extra combats is bracket 2. If you go moraug into fetch land its whatever. If you're doing some sort of infinite land loop thats the same as looping neheb, which is not bracket 2.

>>96348561
>>96348570
close

>>96348597
>If you're doing some sort of infinite land loop
What if the land loop is finite, but some arbitrarily high number?

>>96348597
What in mono red is going to give you infinite land drops on a turn?

Trying to find a loophole by playing extra combats instead of turns doesn't make you a cool bracket 2 player, you are just an WAAC angleshooter

>>96348606
I guess it depends on the set up. If you needed multiple pieces to stack up a bunch of combats thats fine. Infinite combos even in bracket 2 are fine.

you shouldn't infinite combat loop in bracket 2.
i think its benath you.

>>96348617
>>96348619
They literally put it in a precon. if its not an early game 2 card infinite its fine.

>>96348610
artifact lands

>tfw they didnt even have the balls to say no infinites in bracket 2
Fuck, these brackets are worthless!

>>96348623
dockside was in a precon

>>96348642
infinites are being sold on precons btw

>spiderman not even out yet
>already getting Avatar spoilers

what is up with that? are they feeling the negative feedback will lead to bad sales, so they are sandbagging the Spodah in hopes of hyping up ATLA?

>>96348623
Bracket 2 explicitly says no 2 card infinites. Just because WOTC have poor quality control doesn't mean the rule is undone.

>>96348473
considering there's only about 150 people that regularly post here, there's a good chance you're right

>>96348647
that's not a B2 deck then. they have said they do B3 precons

>>96348647
No shit
Those restrictions are for deck building
You dont build precons

>>96348660
>explicitly
if it were that cut and dry you'd think they've programmed it into mtgo by now (ofc they can't)

>>96348673
MTGO can't even handle basic rules interactions without breaking down, you shouldn't use it as a metric for anything.

>>96348663
>>96348666
tidus deck has a 3 card infinite combo btw

>It's another Brackets are shoddy episode
NO, this is NOT happening! they put so much effort in and you are just being pedantic

>>96348681
Nobody asked

>>96348684
haha (You) lost

>>96348299
I'm not

Im new to edh and was wondering if someone could help understand some deck types? What is an aristocrats deck, a historic deck, and a cantrips deck?

>>96348682
if they had put the proper effort gavin wouldn't call it a beta

>>96348652
spiderman is a ruined cuck series
I'm glad I can skip it with ease and go right into SOVL territory with the original avatar cast. I just hope they are smart enough and don't include the woke korra cringe cast.

>>96348681
>3 card infinite
honest, soulful, and rogue. bracket 2
>2 card infinite
degenerate and bracket 4
>2 card true infinite
bannable

>>96348699
there are too many to count but those 3 in order
>tries to sacrifice creatures in order to drain life from opponents with effects like blood artist
>artifacts, sagas and legendary cards are historic. can trigger certain things
>almost every spell draws at least one card to replace itself. is also used to trigger other stuff in the process

>>96348714
i get your general point bro and that's ok it's just that one would think gavin would have the spine to say that out loud by now

>>96348699
Oh sweet summer child, you’ve just cracked open the simplest nut in all of Magic: The Gathering, and you’re already asking questions like a seasoned planeswalker. How adorable. Don’t worry—I’ll explain these terms in a way even someone new like you can almost understand. Maybe.
Aristocrats deck – Ah yes, these are the decks filled with cards of royal lineage. Think King Macar, the Gold-Cursed, Queen Marchesa, and obviously Serra the Benevolent. The strategy? You play nobles, bow before them, and win by collecting taxes from other players. The real power comes from the Estate Tax enchantment, which drains your opponents’ lands if they don't say "my liege" before each combat phase. It's all terribly regal.
Historic deck – So basic. It’s just a deck that only plays cards printed before 1997. You know, back when Magic was still printed on papyrus scrolls. Real decks. None of these flashy new cards with “keywords” and “mechanics.” Just good old-fashioned vanilla 2/2s and the occasional Psychic Venom. Bonus points if you play with yellowed sleeves and aggressively sniff your Beta lands for authenticity.
Cantrips deck – Now, this one’s only for the truly elite. A cantrips deck revolves around horses, obviously. "Cantrip" comes from “canter,” the gait of a horse. So these decks run equine-themed cards like Knight of the Stampede, Galloping Lizrog, and of course, the mighty Horseshoe Crab. The key is to gallop past your opponent’s defenses by trotting out creatures that neigh loud enough to cause psychic damage. It's a very equestrian meta.
But hey, you’ll get there. Eventually. Maybe start with a 100-card deck full of basic lands just to practice shuffling first, yeah? Baby steps.

>>96347453
I don't care about magic sets being serious and think the premise of a wacky race is fun. They should have leaned into it more and made the actual cards in the set more interesting and fun.


Start Your Engines is an awful mechanic, but there are definitely things they could have done to simulate racing in a fun way

>>96348702
no no no, it's so people can give feedback on the list. if enough casuals hate a card (like seedborn muse) it goes on the soft ban list. nobody wants to play with certain strategies either so they are made unplayable by trapping them on a bracket they can't win in. I'm REALLY hoping mill and discard are next to go. have been voicing my opinion a lot in the discord

Lmao why does this card even exist? It doesn't even work.

>>96348735
>discard
define it
are wheels too much for bracket 2?
or is making each opponent discard one (1) card too much for you?

>>96348742
>it's another "anon thinks commander is the only format that exists" episode

>>96348747
tbf 60 card competitive is in the shitter and has been since war of the spark FIRE design 2020

>there will be new players that will refer to edh as the infinite combo format
Grim

Does Scryfall have any sort of method to search through ALL cards in a given set including bonus sheets and Commander-only cards? Like if I want to get every FF card for example, I'd have to do some stupid shit like
>(set:fin OR set:fic OR set:fca)
Is there really not a more elegant way to do this? Release date kinda works but it also requires looking up the set first and then finding the release date and then making a new query instead of just being able to put the fucking set in.

>>96348753
Id argue edh was hit harder

>>96348747
>>96348742
Look at these retards and laugh.
>>96348709
I see a post steeped this deep in shit and I start to wonder if anyone posts unironically anymore.

>>96348764
This tag was created shortly after the FF cards were released. Pretty sure none of the other sets have this special setup

>>96348769
>Id argue edh was hit harder
no denying that there was a shift ever since wotc started making powerlevel decisions that caused enough of a reaction from the playerbase; this has happened a total of three times in magic's history btw
>premodern was created ~10 years after scourge
>predh was created ~10 years after nph
>a preFIRE modern will be created ~10 years after the last non FIRE set ravnica allegiance, so expect the nostalgia to kick in around 2030

>>96348762
I mean it IS the most effective way to win
aggro can't race it thanks to inflated life totals
stax is not allowed in low brackets to stop it
being control means your wincon is most likely a combo of your own since you are holding up mana and not advancing your board
then there are the midrange decks like aristrocrats and the rest who just watch from the sides doing nothing while all this happens

>>96348769
The fun thing about EDH is that you can simply not play the cancer
Thoracle is ultraniggery cancer but I don't have to worry about people at my tables whipping out Thoracle because we all agree nobody wants to play with that shit
Good luck playing Standard and expecting to not see Soul Cauldron

>>96348764
>Is there really not a more elegant way to do this?
Nope, not really. It helps that the vast majority of released cards only have [set] and [set, but commander] so you only have to put those two in. The fun part is trying to find a specific SLD card, since they're not sorted into any subcategories that I know of. set:SLD and then good luck, fucker

>>96348753
>design 2020
>card is from 2012

>>96348793
>>96348808
Fuuuuuuck

>>96348822
you can't blame tourists for only knowing edh, are you that depraved to introduce them to current constructed 60?

>>96348742
What's the matter buckaroo, never seen a niche card draw engine before?

>>96348699
They are descriptors for archetypes. IE decks that have a very specific playstyle in mind.

>>96348803
That was obvious even back in 2010, a majority of people would say "no infinites" because they wanted interesting board states and to make use of underplayed cards
The fact bracket 2 isnt even preserving this very popular sentiment is borderline irresponsible

shado :)

>>96348842
>niche

how long it took you to find your ideal play style and the best commander for it? I've been playing for almost a year and I'm still not sure what mine is.

>>96348857
I would call Sphinx of the Chimes niche, yes.

>>96348867
I was too lost in the sauce ur right

>>96348854
myeah, the cards got too good too. can't really outvalue the new straight to format cards with underplayed ones either

>>96348803
>effective way to win
As I said GRIM!

>>96347212
Oh I could probably do surrak also I'm gay and retarded my commander is ureni the song unending

>>96348861
Instantly, but I came from other card games and played standard for a decade so I knew what I liked. Even when I first started standard though I already knew since I am drawn towards certain aesthetics in all aspects of my life.
You should just pick the deck or commander that looks the coolest, fuck power levels and everything else.

>>96348861
UGH
big beast big smash

Me no patience, me no bluff.
You play combo? Me play rough.
You got plan? Me got fist.
Turn four ramping? Neck get twist.

SPEED IS TRUTH. POWER LAW.
STRENGTH IS RIGHT. WINNING RAW.
You say “meta”? Me say “fight.”
You draw two — me end night.

UGLY DECK, FULL OF JANK,
BE ALL GAS, BE NO TANK.
EVERY CREATURE COST LIKE TEN,
ME STILL CAST, KILL YOU AGAIN.

>>96348875
All good things must come to an end
I havent bouhht new cards since 2020, I dont see that changing any time soon

>>96348861
I don't think I even have a singular favorite strategy or commander and I've been playing for about 7 years now.
I've gotten better at identifying what I do like, but that's a pretty broad spectrum.

>>96348880
agreed. it's all about the "games have to end sometime" agenda. people only want to win faster and faster. this is also apparent in standard where the mouse t2 kill was such a problem they had to ban it but you still find "people" defending it
grim indeed

>>96348861
Took until the first time I had armageddon player against me, about 6 mo into playing edh, back in 2012
I thought it was the coolest shit, apparently not many agree

Why is there no creature that green can run an unlimited amount of?

I pulled a bunch of bulk out of the past two sets (ff/eoe) and put them aside incase I wanted to make them into a deck. Out of all of the commanders that aren't one of the face commanders in the precon, what would be the most enjoyable one to pilot?

>>96348902
The game would end faster if life was 30, that would be better than giving combo a foothold in brackets 1&2.

>>96348905
this one counts
you still get your Creature ETBs and power matters payoff

I'm working on my Green Queens deck. What is the optimal amount of lands i should be running to ensure I'm likely to have a land drop in the first 4-5 turns of the game?

>>96348909
maybe just maybe the powercreep will get so bad 40 life is just right against aggro in a decade

>>96348939
name 1 viable aggro deck

>>96348861
It would be better to compare time spent in the game over actual days gone since starting. Another metric to consider how many decks you've built and tested. Personally I did drafting and sealed before I sauntered over to commander, and I really only got the hang for a strategy I liked my fourth deck in.

>>96348944
I'm not from the future, anon. that would be silly if I knew something like the simpsons aggro deck would become a thing in 10 years, haha

>>96348951
>more like GOATus Cobra, amirite?

>>96348968
Simpsons is a boomer show no one cares about anymore. No way they touch that dead IP

>>96348978
>the bear midrange
Side note my inlaws are watching this show, how the fuck is is this entertainment

>>96348978
it's wotc. big corps are notorious for being behind the curve

>>96348978
Anon they did assassins creed 10 years after it was relevant

>>96349011
i mean the literal first UB was Walking Dead of all things
picrel is what i used for a Rick proxy

>>96348742
shit bait man, honestly embarrassed for you

>>96348997
It's woke pretensious Hollywood slop garbage. Don't fall for the media manufactured hype

>>96349011
Simpsons had 10 good seasons and 25+ zombie shit seasons. It's been bad twice as long as it has been good. No one wants Simpsons SL. It's not gonna happen, chief

>>96349113
Holy buzzword salad

>>96349119
Really? I was never allowed to watch it growing up but even family guy goes in cycles of bad to mildly entertaining.
You are telling me the simpsons aged worse than family guy?

>>96349113
>manufactured hype
So perfect for cross promotion?

>>96348978
You guys always say this yet reality always disagrees.

>>96349134
No, he's telling you "I dislike popular thing aren't I cool?"

>>96349153
It's boomer garbage and you're old af, grandpa. Family Guy SL is far more likely at this point.

>>96349157
Simpsons isn't popular anymore. It's not 1997.
>>96349134
Simpsons has been known as "Zombie Simpsons" by it's fans after season 10, because the show is effectively dead after that point.

>>96349174
I, too, like to discuss things I don't know the first thing about and take extremely rigid and aggressive stances without any information.

>>96349188
How old are you? Be honest.

>>96349203
33

>>96349188
>In 2025, the first original broadcast of "The Simpsons" in the new year (March 30th) resulted in a series low rating of 0.14. This episode also tied the show's previous low, according to The TV Ratings Guide. The show was renewed for four more seasons in April 2025, extending its run through the 2028-2029 season.

>>96349231
>prints legendary homer anyway

>>96349224
>>96349188
>>96349157

>>96348735
Oh good there is a spot where faggots can voice their faggoty opinions.

>>96348735
I'll maybe accept this when they start unbanning big boy cards onto the game changer list.

>Primetime should be unbanned!
You should be banned from oxygen

Show me an infinite two-card combo with Primetime, no make it a three-card combo.

>move a tutor out
>now it's a bracket 2
lol lmao

>>96349387
Yeah. Brackets are retarded.

>>96349356
The RC was traumatized from getting hit by 20/20s

No more instant speed shenanigans.....

>>96349174
>Simpsons isn't popular anymore. It's not 1997.
The Simpson's have reached the same status as a classic film book or story. It's no longer popular in the way to Fay but everyone knows the memes in the same way everyone gets Shakespeare jokes even if most people haven't read one since high school

>>96349445
It's not popular anymore it's the Popeye of it's time. "Mmm donuts" is the equivalent of popeye eating spinach.

Boomers and millennials love the golden age of the simpsons, it not being good anymore wouldn't change the fact they'd shell out lots for a simpsons set or SL of that time period.

>>96349421
does this count as mld

>>96349473
I'd buy it just to piss off my friends,

I think I'm finally going to try Codie. I'm smooth brained though - looking through these decklists I can see there are creatures. Simian Spirit Guide and Elvish Spirit Guide I understand - but are creatures able to be put onto the battlefield even with Codies restriction? Specifically talking about Blood Pet and Dualcaster Mage, etc.

https://moxfield.com/decks/IRUg-wI-ekCk26q7OFpGTw

>>96349520
That would be retarded. You still got the mana to play with and you can just forgo your land drop if you want to do instant speed thing.

>>96349520
Moxfield says it's a bracket 2 card on its own.

>>96349549
Thats a cEDH combo deck that uses the usual thoracle/tained pact combo to win. You just sac/bounce/kill codie, or revive thoracle if you milled it.
https://moxfield.com/decks/IRUg-wI-ekCk26q7OFpGTw/primer

>Start building tard-proof version of him for big fat dummies (it's for a very casual friend of mine)
>Trim the self-mill because I know he'd never use it
>Trim the Pod lines because I know he wouldn't remember them
>Eventually realize I just made a scuffed blink deck that sometimes gets sac value and dies to Rest In Peace

>>96349623
>>Trim the self-mill because I know he'd never use it
This is when you should have realized you were doing it wrong. Just play a completely different commander at that point.

AAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK THIS RETARDED ASS FORMAT JUST DO NOTHING FOR LIKE TEN TURNS UNTIL ONE GUY HAS HIS PIECES AND BLOWS EVERYONE UP OR GOES INFINITE
NO I DO NOT WANT TO HOLD UP MY ENTIRE MANA BASE FOR INTERACTION JUST TO STOP SOMEONE'S COMBO + PROTECTION/COUNTER SUITE
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>96349652
just kill him before it matters

>>96349652
>ten turns
That guy is already dead

Why do some cards say "unblockable" and others say "this creature can't be blocked"? The newer cards seem to be the wordier ones.

What happens in a 4 player game when the Monarch is eliminated from the game by an effect that is not combat damage? Does Monarch just disappear until someone plays an effect that makes them monarch?

>>96349701
Unlockable is the old version but it sounds like a keyword ability and it isnt.
They changed it to make it easier for new players to read

>Can pick what colour you get locked into for the turn
>Can even pick a colour that has access to enchantment destruction like green, white, etc to subsequently pop it
>Instantly pushes your monogreen ooze tribal up to bracket 4 when you add it to your deck
corporate approved bracket moment

>give nice art to a card banned in every format
shit aint fair man

>>96349686
This guy actually sucks. When you regenerate him, he gets removed from combat, his auras and equipment fall off, and he deals no damage if blocked. He doesn't even have trample or evasion. He is good at not dying, but nothing else.

>>96349631
I was going to have him play Thalia and the Gitrog Monster because it's as braindead as aristocrats go with Abzan colors, but even that proved to be too much for him because he found it too hard to attack safely.

I'm still salty they got rid of commander shuffle and tuck effects.

>>96349753
Channel is banned in edh?
>>96349473
Would they really? I feel like only boomers and gen Xers would care enough to shell out. When millennial were the age to watch the Simpsons (post 2000s) it was already in zombie stage and put out several years of terrible episodes in a row, which is why millennial tend to like family Guy more. Gen X tards are the ones who thought Bart Simpson and "eat my shorts" was super edgy and hilarious.

>>96349744
Goes to whoever's turn it is. If it was the monarch's turn it goes to the next player.

>>96349786
Effects like this and lignify are now the best ways to neutralize commanders besides drannith magistrate.

>>96349764
>his auras and equipment fall off
wut? Regeneration doesn't cause a card to change zones, why would it mess with auras or equipment?

ligmafy

>>96349787
>Channel is banned in edh?
channel is not legal in any format other than vintage where its restricted

>>96349764
anon, you just had one of those nightmares where your hair or teeth or penis falls off, except with auras/equipment during a regenerate-destruction scenario, it didn't really happen, that's not real.

Thinking about building her, should I focus on the Rooms aspect or just generic good stuff for enchantments?

>>96348721
it's actually absurd how wrong this is, what LLM did you use for this

>>96349750
Why didn't they just make it a keyword then, like shroud or skulk?

>>96349818
Damn, last time at my lgs the autistic rules faggot told me auras and equipment fall off creatures when you regenerate them. I just assumed he was right and a recent rules change i didn't know about.

>>96349774
This seems perfect for him but the bitch is $20, they really need to reprint those 40k precons.

>>96349862
It's crazy that nobody called that shit out.

>>96349598
>cant think
>only repost decks from reddit
wew

>>96349916
Youre the one who linked it, I just clicked the primer button on the page you provided.

>>96349921
Let me say it in a different way
You can build decks multiple ways not just the optimized way you saw on reddit

>>96349862
>Damn, last time at my lgs the autistic rules faggot told me auras and equipment fall off creatures when you regenerate them.
This might just be a mandella effect, but isn't that how it used to happen, because it would die, then come back, until they made it more like a shield effect?

>>96349921
>>96349928
>read it again
Damn im retarded nvm ur right

>>96349932
that was phasing before they changed the rules for commander.
Holy shit I hate the antichrist

>>96349932
>Regeneration has historically been a confusing effect. Originally, regeneration was an ability that only could be activated in the damage prevention step, which was a step right after damage was dealt, to save a creature that would otherwise go to the graveyard. It could not be activated or triggered at any other time.
>In the Sixth Edition rules changes, the damage prevention step became obsolete, and damage was no longer "assigned" before being dealt - it was simply dealt. Damage prevention, regeneration, and other spells and abilities that generated replacement effects were now played just like other instants. As such, regeneration had drifted in flavor; instead of regenerating when a creature was about to die, you set a regenerative shield that would save the creature if it otherwise would die that turn.

>>96349942
>>96349944
Shield counters seemed to be their 'fix' to regeneration these days, but hardly anything uses them.

>>96349964
Well yeah why use shield counters when you can just give it fucking indestructible anyway?

>>96349976
Shield counters are one use (assuming no proliferation), while indestructible is basically always 'until end of turn'. Which is a lot stronger in a vacuum.

biggest loss at the discontinuation of regenerate, was green - regenerate used to be a green keyword action, and white as a secondary, but they axed it, gave white indestructible as a primary, and to green as a secondary.

>>96349997
>regenerate used to be a green keyword action, and white as a secondary
It was mostly black when first introduced in Alpha, but other colors had it too

I will never forgive them for printing dramatic reversal and relegating Isochron Scepter to combo decks

>>96350017
I still like zombie master, especially now that urborg exists. I basically never use the regenerate on him.

>>96349847
Because there was 4-5 different effects that prevents blocking and at the time they were shrinking keyword use

Acceptable in lower brackets?

>>96350017
Oh damn, yeah, I guess there are more black regenerate cards than green. Black did end up getting those revival effects, like Undying Malice, Supernatural Stamina etc, to compensate.
Bro's description of 'Regenerate' (auras and equipments fall off) make me think that rules autist didn't actually understand how regenerate worked, and thought it functioned like this, because they WOULD fall off if the creature died, and was brought back like with SS

>>96350051
Yeah, its not too far off using top. Both only get wacky when you start pairing them with miracle, cascade, or similar effects. Like if you brainstorm in B2 nobody is gonna care.

>>96349932
Ok- so now the current rules state that regenerating creatures still do combat damage, keep their +1/+1 counters and keep their auras and equipments? That faggot was dead to rights if we followed the actual rules. I used rec sage to force him to pop his oblivion stone to deal with the rest of the table, leaving my thrun with 8 counters on it as the only nonland permanent on the table. He said the counters fell off it when it regenerates and I blindly trusted him because he's the resident lgs rules autist.

>>96350051
This card isn't even considered good anymore

>you target me
>bro this is bracket 2
>how dare you
>I concede
lol?

>>96350111
an all-star in melek and probably that other top deck jeskai commander

>>96350114
bro that's a crime

>>96350114
Bro got Epstein on his hand lol

>>96350114
this reminds of playing brawl where if you play any early interaction your opponent just alt f4's 75% of the time

>>96350141
This card straight up wins me the game with my Skrelv deck, it's fucking insane

>>96349987
I'm referring more to WotC's immaculate decision-making of printing static indestructible onto shit at complete random.

Quick rundown on this guy?
I'm still pretty new to Magic.
From what I've read, he's a slow & defensive deck?

>>96350111
Even with all the pushed for commander draw shit, I still think its a must have in Mono W

>get down to 6 cards left in the deck
>season of loss for lethal
So much cooler than Thassa's Oracle

>>96350181
Eluge is pretty sly since it dindu nuffin during the early turns but will become explosive if you left it unchecked especially if there's bigger threat on the board that it can play underneath.

>>96350181
even a single counter is pretty good
if you are new to magic just know its important to stick with a deck for a while. This would be a good place to start if you like blue.

>>96350111
>brainstorm 5+ every turn
>bad

wait the slivers off of the first sliver also cascade?
I must have always though cascade was from hand guess not
well my analysis of that card was way wrong lol

>>96350321
They don't cascade because The First Sliver is still on the stack

>>96350331
yeah but subsequent slivers once the first sliver resolves
I don't even know what I would have in my deck to deal with that except a boardwipe or like a rule of law effect, not that I am in the habit of playing rule of laws but I guess I could start.

>>96349387
>hard werewolf tribal
>no none wolf/werewolf creatures unless text references werewolves or wolves
>sup optimal to pure crap cards included simply because they fit thematically
>deck is barely bracket 2
>not enough good 1-2 drop werewolves to be aggro
>WW too weak individually to stomp
>need a full board and Commander out just to hope to have a chance in colors that are hopelessly vulnerable to board wipes and spot removal
>almost nothing available in Gruul to actually stop people spamming spells to flip my wolves
>decide to include Blood Moon since it helps slow other players spell spam and is extremely thematic to the deck
>The Bracket System: "OOO IS THAT A SINGLE PIECE OF MASS LAND INTERACTION?! SORRY RETARD YOU CAN HAVE UP TO 3 GAME CHANGERS AND A DECK STUFFED WITH TUTORS AND COMBOS AND STILL BE BRACKET 3 BUT IF YOU PUT THIS ONE SINGLE SOLITARY CARD THAT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING TO WIN THE GAME AND MIGHT NOT EVEN SLOW YOUR OPPONENTS IF THEY'RE IN RED YOUR BARELY FUNCTIONING BARELY BRACKET 2 TRIBAL DECK IS GOING STRAIGHT TO BRACKET 4 JAIL!"

>>96350404
They really should make a white version of blood moon that turns nonbasics in to plains. Would be gigadimes

>>96350409
What was their bullshit reasoning about why they didn't want to again? Or why they won't give white a Yavimaya/Urborg effect?

>>96350409
almost...

>>96350404
lol i did the same thing when the first return to innastraad came out, the non-werewolf cards are what make and break the deck and trinisphere/bloodmoon and even stuff like greater good and sylvan library seem to go farther in that deck than others.
damn I loved that deck but only really played it digitally never made it in paper.
welp I think the deck could still work without bloodmoon but im not sure what would be a good substitute.

>>96350404
>brackets are shit
News at 11

>>96350473
I'm still flabbergasted that they said absolutely positively resoundingly NO to making old werewolves daybound. Retards didn't even need to errata the text of the cards, just say "As long someone in your pod isn't an exhausting nerd, you can choose all your werewolves to be Daybound". Even MaRo wanted to errata them in a rare moment of not being a total retard. But nope, rest of the team said "Nope, not how it's gonna work, not even just in Commander." And, knowing that was the case, they printed a bunch of overcosted garbage werewolves and zero 1 mana WW for what can only optimally be a fast go wide aggro deck that they made the face of the set.

>>96350463
>What was their bullshit reasoning about why they didn't want to again?
I'm pretty sure it was just
>uhm.. that is le not in le whites le colour le identity

>>96350558
One of the few good decisions wotc has made was banishing gaybound to the shadowrealm

I'll never be a worthless nigger who needs to play blue to win

'bout to take these to the LGS bois

>>96350662
Will the local lgs fags understand the reference?

>>96350668
no

>>96350424
You think this mf smart enough to know how to take a strong mulligam when he can't even figure out how to attack?

>>96350404
Me but with my Malcom and Breeches not being able to include Glint-Horn because technically its an "EARLY GAME" 2 card combo with Malcom. Even though it cant even go infinite unless everyone is at the exact same life total.

>>96350739
explain the combo to me as if i were retarded

>>96350754
>attack with glint-horn
>activate ability
>make 3 treasures from Malcolm
>activate ability
>repeat until opponents all die

>>96350754
Malcom on board means every time a pirate does damage I get a treasure for each opponent that got damage. I attack with Glint-Horn and all 3 opponents get pinged for one and I get a treasure, then I hold prio, use his ability to keep discarding, and generating 3 treasures until there is only one opponent left. Once there I am only getting one, so assuming I didnt get enough extra treasures it wont finish off the last opponent..

Im just saying if I can do the literal same thing but better with Lightning Rig Crew/Pirate Ship and Freed from the Real why is glint horn considered "Early Game"?

>>96350739
>me but with my cedh combo

>>96350662
>>96350668
haha nice

>>96350238
>>96350257
I did some reading and apparently it can cause massive seething?
Something about blue being annoying to play against.
I'll get my friends input but I could always just use my counters defensively rather than to shut down people's setup/gimmick right?

>turn 5 I get Gisela out
>she lives, I get to untap
>cast Insurrection
>no counters
>hit everyone for 60+ each

Finally got a Boros win in my pod, bros! Feels good.

>>96350739
Is Malcolm/Fransisco with Time Seive a bracket 2 combo because it's not technically infinite and requires so many things to happen to get a time loop going?

>>96350967
What is god damn is your pod that you can't win with Boros?
Grats though

Who is my budget commander for thisslop tribal?
Tatyova? Necrobloom? Phylath? Erinis? Gretchen? Wandering Minstrel?

post irl decks and I will rate them out of 10

>>96351135
no

>>96351159
why?

>>96351130
>landfall
>monogreen
The queen.

>>96351130
>you know who

>>96351130
ashaya or yedora

>>96351314
>>96351314
>>96351314

>>96348652
Avatar is getting a new series by the end of the year, so they're pushing it more for toy sales/cross-promotion.
Both sets were supposed to be half-sized packs like AC and aftermath, so they know both are going to be kind of shitty in terms of cards. They're not really draftable and they're trying to cover it by shotgunning card spoilers so we don't notice there's like 3 deck types per set

>>96348735
>in the discord
They want me to give real info to participate in it. Fuck that shit. They'll deal with my unhinged emails and spam on their socials