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>>96364431
If pure humans die out and get replaced with kemonomimi, then the world has actually been improved and I am happy for my contribution. Anyone else remember that old setting /tg/ created back when times were better and this site wasn't ass where that happened, CATastrophe I think?

>>96364431
Even better?

>>96364447
>Reflection:
The Formless

Shapeshifting has endless entertainment potential.

>Objective:
Flesh

Somehow the best option for everyone involved.

>Location:
Nowhere

I love high-rises!

>Advantages:
Hard to Handle, SLAM Artist, Dodgy

>Main Prey:
Trick of Retreat

>Hinderances:
Fox Hunt

Smarter Prey is more fun and entertaining.

>Treats:
Trophy Room, Porno Logic, Dimensional Catalog, Take Five

Imagine not keeping your Prey.

First two extra Treats will be Just One More (Telekinesis) and then Eye of the Hound, both great for entertainment. After obtaining them, Spring Loaded, more Just One More, or Grudge will be considered.

>Chain:
The Witch

Learn magic and alchemy from her.

What makes urban fantasy a rare CYOA genre?

>>96364668
It isn't. And it isn't, because the modern world is an easy environment to draw around some zany or scary characters.

Are there more archons than those listed in the cyoa? If yes, what concepts do they embody?

https://www.imgchest.com/p/ej7m8w2mnyd

>>96364852
>Gnostics:

>Platonists:
Platonimist https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96357959/#96361740
God's Chosen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96357959/#96361860
Archon Supremacist https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96357959/#96362057
To See https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96357959/#96362748

>Revivalists:
Practicalist https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96357959/#96363269

>Animists:
CS Undergrad https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96357959/#96361668
Puppet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96357959/#96361737

>>96364765
I think I went Hawthorne in my build, not because I like them, but because it's better than being a slave, an edgelord, dealing with angels, or a glowie.

>>96364852
>Gnostic:

>Platonist:
Spirits of Heaven Supremacist https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96357959/#96362057
To See https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96357959/#96362748

>Revivalist:
Practicalist https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96357959/#96363269

>Animist:
CS Undergrad https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96357959/#96361668
Puppet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96357959/#96361737

>Gnostic/Platonist:
God's Chosen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96357959/#96361860

>Platonist/Animist:
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96357959/#96361740

>>96364461
>Blue Mages more strongly feel and invoke the feelings of Sincerity, feeling more genuine and true to yourself and promoting an urge to be truthful in others. Another reason they're hated, civilization probably wouldn't function if they couldn't coast with white lies- Powerful Blue Mages can be a curse of truth on an entire town with their presence.
This is just as disgusting as some sudden manifesto about the immutable differences between the sexes or races when you just wanted to read about things you can have inside a fantasy adventure. It's ironic to give that example in light of the particularly feminine character of this derangement.
Reading this bit again after Witch Awakening was the proof in My heart that the nihilistic attitude inside Witch Awakening was not some accident, but that OutrageousBears is genuinely an evil creature. What else would decide that there is a practical, even moral requirement to deceive Our own loved ones in all Our life? She has told You that it's Our responsibility to rob each self of truth, the origin of all agency and progression, blinding all souls in the unhidden wish that all of Us would shackle each other and begin a world where all are slaves and none are masters.

>>96365216
The Masquerade must be protected, anon! The mundanes must never learn that supernatural creatures walk among them!

>>96365216
>but that OutrageousBears is genuinely an evil creature
More examples?

>>96365436
>AI slop

>>96364668
Anons lack the creativity to make the. interesting. Unlike popular belief worldbuilding can be done in Urban Fantasy. To this day I've only played 3 good urban fantasy cyoas.

>>96365824
And which good urban fantasy books have you read?
(You must name more then 3)

If I were to make an organised crime cyoa, would you rather something more grounded like a mafia game where a single bullet can take out anyone and you're never really safe or a more fantasy thing like a yakuza game where a single person can take down an entire family bare handed?

>>96365827
I'm not really an avid book reader most of my interest in the genre comes from films. But I've read the entire Dresden Files series up to Battleground. I do have 2 Urban Fantasy books in my watchlist (Monster Hunter: International and Jade City). Do you have some recommendations?

>>96364852
>>96361369
School: Gnostic

Sources: Gods

Manifestations:
- Automatic Writing x2
- Revelation x2
- Enhancement x2

Profession: Amateur

Perks:
- Spirit Guide
- High Compatibility (Gods)
- Notable Vision

Drawbacks:
- Rival Sorcerer (Minor but Malicious)
- Incomplete Education (Astral Travel)

The idea behind this build is that he's just a regular guy that starts having cryptic dreams that nudge him towards learning and uncovering the truth behind the way of things.

As he's been essentially on his own while trying to juggle a normal life this has left him with gaps in his knowledge. During his studies he began asking around for help and information which drew the attention of another practitioner that took personal umbrage with the connection he seemed to be developing with a specific spirit.

>>96361860
>>96362057
>>96362748
>>96361737
>>96361668
Based builds.

>>96365863
The implication behind the exchange
>Anons cannot ()
>Name >3
Is that I am seeking examples to bolster your point about anons being deficient in this regard

>>96365842
Definitely the latter. "Realism" is all well and good but excessive realism can get boring. That doesn't mean that bullets can't still be effective however, you just to sidestep the issue by making guns heavily restricted in the setting (like Japan) so most gangs fight melee, and when you do find an opponent with a firearm you'll at least have the ability to fight back without getting overwhelmed.

>>96365842
I would rather the first, although if it gets too bad it might lead me out of a life of crime

>>96365880
>Definitely the latter.
Let's say a Bruce lee movie or that scene in kill bill 1 where a single guy can single handedly roll into enemy territory with nothing but his fists and beat up 100 dudes

>>96365873
Well the Dresden Files are like 15+ books so they technically exceed your criteria. But if you aren't satisfied I can site the same number of Urban Fantasy Movies. Or are you going to argue that cinematic media knowledge is somehow lesser than literary one?

>>96365884
>if it gets too bad it might lead me out of a life of crime
anon you can't leave that kind of life willy-nilly, the moment your subordinates sense weakness you're going to get wacked.

>>96365908
You have bad subordinates
Everyone knows that loyalty is number 1, above strength or intimidation
Once you've made it your named successor takes over and you retire to your 11 wives

>>96365920
>mafia
>loyalty
lol, how adorably gullible

>>96365842
The latter.
That way you can kill all the scumbags instead of them just killing you when you least expect it because they're paranoid petty scum deeply afraid of getting caught.

>Bathory, Ford, Galileo, Evoco, Galileo, Ostane
Italics could have made entirely separate CYOAs just focused on these clans.

>>96365842
>>96365880
>>96365884
>>96366317
>Get offered criminal lifestyle CYOA
"I don't want to be a criminal."
"I want to kill scumbags like an hero."
"If its bad I want to leave."

Holy mother of being absolute pussies and not even understanding the point of being a criminal.

I have gotten a prophetic dream outer reincarnation is coming soon

>>96366323
>>96366323
I suspect he started by finding the branchs of magic, then he wrote lore around it.
Tech, Eldritch, Summoning, Alchemy and Blood must've inspired him more than classical (overdone) branches likes Time, Healing or Death.

Fantasy cat burglar cyoa would be fun, you know, stuff like the elder scroll heist in Oblivion.

Some may have thought this was supposed to be the Mamet update, but it turned out to be more of an Everything update.
I gathered the stuff I kept in my notes that I had originally wanted to involve in the original release but which couldn’t make the cut, polished and expanded upon it, and implemented the result here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKR7eZb878M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO5AXrp59CQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hXQ6BaElSc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtqBuT7d0DY

Changelog:
1. The CYOA is now 19 (20) pages long.
2. Various grammar mistakes were fixed where I’ve remembered noticing them.
3. Minor graphical edits here and there.
4. Clarified in 0^0’s Patron God description how her false ascent impacted the total Ascension plan. Originally it stated something that could be interpreted as soul enrichment being reversed, which is not what I had in mind.
5. Family Points were renamed into Ancestry Points. That one guy who had suggested it was right, this does sound better and I wish I had thought of it myself.
6. You now start with 20 Ancestry Points instead of just 15.
7. The text on the You description in the Reincarnation section now has one more paragraph to represent a new section added in the update.
8. You are now allowed to use Adoption to only discard one parent instead of both.
9. Adoptive parents now have their Ancestry Point costs turned into Destiny Points. Characters specifically requiring Adoption perk are naturally exempt from this.
10. Buying a Sibling now only costs 1 AP instead of 1 AP and 3 DP.

>>96366423
ok, you do it then

>>96366467
11. Sibling description now states that you can only choose the age of your sibling within reason. You really shouldn’t be able to have a brother born a trillion years after you, and I really shouldn’t have to point this out.
12. Random placement holder picture I’ve accidentally left for Dice Fudge perk has been replaced.
13. Dice Fudge can now be used to turn a Mentor into an adoptive parent.
14. Turning a parent candidate into a Mentor via Dice Fudge now states to flip their point cost into Destiny Points.
15. Unnotable Ones now give only 4 DP instead of 5 DP (I initially wanted it to be 3 DP, but I don’t want to hurt a fan favorite option too much).
16. Being adopted by an Unnotable One now only gives 1 DP, because the points you gain that way were supposed to be a compensation for not inheriting Inborn Gifts to begin with.
17. By popular demand, Laika now can speak Palatiner.
18. Marsaget Sarmat and Senamotis Sarmata now cost only -1 AP each if you purchase both of them instead of -4 AP each.
19. Zwa Aureole and Iwnn Aureole now cost only -2 AP each if you purchase both of them instead of -5 AP each.
20. [JNPL] now costs -5 AP and -5 DP instead of -7 AP and -7 DP.

>>96366473
21. [JNPL] now gives you a free mandatory use of Adoption perk.
22. Edited Death of the Author to specify that 0^0 won’t initially know that you even could possibly have it because she won’t be paying attention to this specific moment.
23. Edited Taiya’s description to state that she is only operating lesser warmachina, due to the changes to variety of warmachina I’ve made for the update.
24. Added 20 new Mother options.
25. Fot now costs -1 AP instead of -4 AP, because Daemonhost is no longer as exclusive.
26. Hladvig now has a family name, since he’s supposed to be a noble, almost royalty.
27. The Horde now gives +5 AP and +5 DP instead of +7 AP and +7 DP.
28. Added 20 new Father options.
29. Race section intro now states that you still have to fit the displayed racial requirements before choosing them when you have [JNPL] as your Mother. This means that you can’t be an Uruk (it requires the Horde as the Father), or a male Aranea, or anything else like that. I will allow you to pretend to not see this rule if you’re choosing one of the hidden races from the extended list despite requiring 0^0 to be dead as per the Other option’s requirements.
30. Changed the male picture of the Alf race, because they both need to be golden haired.
31. Adjusted the male picture of the Tumen race, because there was a random white dot on his hair.
32. Race group description was shrunk to fit the rest of the section on the page.
33. Northerners and Southlanders now get +1 Companion slot.
34. Muddish and Tumen now get +1 Mentor slot.
35. Eldar now get +2 AP.
36. Sidhe now get +2 DP.
37. Alf get +1 Companion slot.
38. Drow get +1 Mentor slot.
39. Beastfolk now get +2 AP and +2 DP instead of +1 AP and +1 DP.
40. Aranea now get Metamorphosis, their own unique lifespan Inborn Gift.

>>96366467
My faith in humanity? Restored.

>>96366485
41. Added 4 new Races.
42. Other race description now no longer mentions Dark Elves and Dwarves, because you actually can play as them now.
43. Expanded the section for Rulers when selecting your Location.
44. You now get bonuses depending on which country you’re starting in.
45. Added 2 new countries.
46. Number of available Location options is increased to 37 from the old 23.
47. Languages now give bonuses depending on how many of them you know.
48. You can now make other characters learn a language instead of doing it yourself. And you now need to utilize this feature to buy your parents the language they lack to start in a Location of your choice.
49. You can now sell the languages you inherit from your parents.
50. Added 3 new languages.
51. There’s now 89 Inborn Gifts instead of just 45.
52. Agelessness, Bitter Sickness and Multiocular O now have new pictures.
53. Ethereal Beauty now costs only 1 AP instead of 2 AP.
54. Description for the effect of double Eye for Shadows has been slightly altered to make it feel more authentic to the gift.
55. Description for the effect of All-Glimpse had been expanded to account for some newly revealed information.

>>96366492
56. Halfbreed perk gains a potential drawback Inborn Gift if you’re overly ambitious in what you’re grabbing from both of your races.
57. Bestial Strength gift is now said to have some theoretical upper limit, but this has no effect for most users – it’s only a caveat to prevent someone from creating an infinite loop somehow, and for some other power interactions.
58. Process of obtaining the Everlasting gift was nerfed to make all other lifespan gifts gain value.
59. There is now a distinction between starting lifespan gifts and ones you get upon meeting specific conditions. Also, the way different starting lifespan gifts overwrite each other has been slightly altered as well, allowing some ambitious Halfbreed perk enthusiasts to get more of them if they are compatible.
60. Specified that slots for eyes gained via Multiocular O are not suitable for Missed Shape.
61. Added 20 new Mentors.
62. Added 20 new Companions.
63. Omega’s starting cost is now 0 DP instead of -5 DP.
64. Slightly expanded Omega’s special description.
65. Zenia now no longer has a death slot.
66. [YMRD] now costs -5 AP and -5 DP instead of -7 AP and -7 DP.
67. 0^0 now costs -5 AP and -5 DP instead of -7 AP and -7 DP.
68. 0^0’s name on the Location and Mentor sections is now displayed properly instead of the lazy way it used to be (0 with a small 0 in the corner as opposed to just 0^0 that looks like an emoji or something).
69. Added 61 Encounters.

>>96366494
70. Kilyn of the Orthrung, Geminara of the Doria, Zenia, 0^0 and [YMRD] are now stated to not be able to have an Encounter.
71. Blazhko is now have it stated in his Special description that his Mentors will not have any Encounters.
72. Intro to the Death section now tells you that you can’t repeat letters on the same single character as well.
73. Both of the Yee letters are now displayed on the option.
74. Descriptions of a few letters received minor additional flavor.
75. Commentary under Vedi now states that you are guaranteed to be chosen by the next Outsider instead of just being potentially picked.
76. Commentary under letter On now hints on what the death could be instead of just saying it will be unknown. This is done to better parallel its counterpart letter Nash, as it is supposed to.
77. You are now offered a reward of +5 AP for picking Khier.
78. Price of Ot has increased from -1 DP to -5 DP; however, since original Omega used to cost -5 DP, the full result is one point cheaper with this arrangement.
79. Text of Uplifting now tells about primitive tribes around the world in general instead of specifically Beastfolk in the interior of the Mamet continent (because they are now playable from the start).
80. And maybe some other things I could have forgotten to record.

>>96366471
>hur hur you do it then
I can't really enjoy playing cyoas that I've made myself.

>>96366467
Will the multiplayer antics claim the threads once again?
If so, based. I don't like how /mcyoag/ operates.

>>96366467
I think I will like this

>>96366403
But the Death Magic clan has just as much lore as the classical overdone branches. They have a literal shadowy cabal of powerful undead liches controlling their society and representing different aspects of death and getting powerboosts from it. Basically what if Sons were mages and didn't have bitches to glaze their cocks.

>>96366473
>You really shouldn’t be able to have a brother born a trillion years after you, and I really shouldn’t have to point this out.
Wow imagine ruining the ability for people to make a choice and choose their own adventure.

>>96366580
I am once again asking anyone saving the Mystery Box to save it as a png instead of jpg, to make sure it won't lose its transparent background.
The way the hand and the text seemingly pops out of the page is aesthetically important, I think.

>>96366589
[YMRD] instructs her devout believers to check the source files for extracurricular content.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BxR5CDFOxGsDOXVXX0l1QlFQSmM?resourcekey=0-m3Sgz0KfXboCE4P9KMHZ4A&usp=drive_link

And here’s the link for potentially easier future reposting of the CYOA.

https://imgchest.com/p/9p4n8wvvm4n

This should be it.
I have another 24 hour shift tomorrow, so it’ll be a few days before I can return and answer any questions.

>>96366597
>I have another 24 hour shift tomorrow
wait those exist?

>>96366634
Being an unironic Vatnik is tough since he has to fuel the war industry or get cubed.

>>96366707
Tankista is Russian?
Why is all this /cyoag/ lore been hidden from me?

>>96366467
Amazing, great moment to make a fresh build with all the new choices available.

>>96366502
I'll make it for you if you make the cyoa I want for me

>>96366751
How did you not know? It's a basic fact like Tok is Swedish and Italics is American.

>>96366467
This one is so fucking PEAK I still remember all the theories about the world and strategies on how to beat 0, this is an amazing work btw, time to take an hour or three to re read it and see everything new (to everyone who likes lore discussion and world building I'd recommend saving this post and checking the original post, some crazy talks go on in there and I hope it goes on here too)

>>96366786
>and Italics is a black American weeb
ftfy

>>96366751
wtf do you think Time of Troubles and OR's pre-Cyrillic alphabet God Script sprang from?

>Tankshitsa
Can't wait for baby authors to get influenced and we get a new generation of metashit cyoas once more.

>>96366800
An hour or three? You're optimistic.
Even if it was "just" about the new continent locations we'd be at it for a day. But with thing like the new races, the Eternal Curse, the Empyrean Gift, Nilmatrix and the Encounters, we'll be at it for a while.

>>96366467
peak.

>>96366850
post better cyoa. i will read that one too.

>>96366821
Italics isn't a weeb.

>>96366826
I just thought he was a russiaboo

>>96366333
I never said any of those things, I just said that gun realism in cyoas is lame and gay.

>>96366891
Why does he constantly use anime art and themes then?

>>96366423
>Fantasy cat burglar cyoa would be fun, you know, stuff like the elder scroll heist in Oblivion.
That's just Honor Among Thieves by nxtb.

>>96366473
>>96366485
>>96366492
>>96366494
>>96366498
LESSSS FUCKING GOOOO!!!

>>96366597
>extracurricular content
Surely nothing much-
>six pages of Extended Races
>Previous Outsiders builds
>historical and political maps of everything since year 0
I might actually lose my week.

>>96366901
Annime art is abundant but when Italics originally started he did use western art. The themes for his CYOAs are heavily anti-anime. Magi Case for example is ran entirely on western philosophy of Monad and Gnosticism.

>>96367037
i-i think i just got btfo
My inflated ego will never recover from this

>>96366597
>Do what you want because a Majin is free. You are a Majin.

Damn right. We are number one.

>>96366901
>Why does he constantly use anime art?
To mask his miseryporn settings. Echoes has your parents and adults getting kidnapped and turned into mutant slave soldiers, teenagers with psychic powers are killing each other in the street with implied graping, but he masks it with cute almost chibi highschool anime girls who act like you are a Hero of a light hearted Earthbound adventure and their possible boyfriend.

Apocrypha has loli skinsuits but you think its anime Castlevania.

>>96366541
>Can legally cuck Keter since her former girlfriend is now a mentor
>It turns out she was the worse of the two and now I feel bad for the dumb wolfgirl since she's genuinely regretful
I don't know how to proceed with this information.

>>96367206
You sound like a beta cuck for feeling bad.

>>96366502
That>>96366775 is a serious offer btw

>>96365216
>the nihilistic attitude inside Witch Awakening
Where?

>>96366467
Thank you for all the hard work, Tankista

>>96366902
Huh. I actually never played that one because I got it mixed up with another CYOA with fantasy criminal theme that I had played.

>>96366467
Well today is busy but I guess I know what I'm doing tomorrow.

Should the citizens of the Ecumene be spared? Or is it a retarded idea to think getting rid of 0^0's followers will defeat her.

>>96366467
Well this is the second time I've lost money on an update actually happening. Good stuff, keep yourself alive.

>>96366498
>75. Commentary under Vedi now states that you are guaranteed to be chosen by the next Outsider instead of just being potentially picked.
Bro nerfed my free plot armour

>>96366467
>all the references to Earthen stories, mythology, and occultism
Y'know I didn't think about this before but do you think the Elder Gods took inspiration from Earth? Or is all of this a result of Outsider meddling? They can already kidnap people from beyond, them "peering" in and taking ideas they like doesn't sound farfetched.

Can someone compile the extra stuff into a imgchest as well please

>>96366473
>Zwa Aureole and Iwnn Aureole now cost only -2 AP each if you purchase both of them instead of -5 AP each.
Canon incest

>>96366467
>True love can be used on companions and siblings
>>96366554
>One of the companions would be your daughter
So... can you use true love with your daughter? Incest build for the win? I would add one parent with ethereal beauty to guarantee all of them being super beautiful

>>96366554
>Gets to fuck the dragon queen
>Gets to have a cute dragon daughter
>Gets to fuck your cute dragon daughter
New best companion dropped.

>>96367506
BASED!?!?!?!?!?

>>96366467
Great the mcyoagnogs are back

>>96367556
>Age (at your birth) : -14
And you meet the one century old dragon queen at 13.

>>96367622
>The Eighth children are potentially incestuous pedophiles
Can she do anything right?

>>96367407
Yes.
Her ascension took place almost 150 years ago - most of them weren't even born yet.

>>96367556
>take iwnn and zwa as your parents
>take your dragon daughter as your true love wife
wowee

>>96367459
The real reason is because they give almost the exact same benefits so wasting 10 points only for an incest story isn't worth it. Still, quite funny.

>>96367656
Yeah even if it is funny and probably what would've happened without the System's interference, I've got no mechanical reason to switch my dad out for Iwnn. Though mamma Zwa might be married to a Pixie or a Dwarf now if I choose to swap out my dad, which'd be funny in its own way.

How can other named authors even compete against Tankista?

>>96367622
>Age (at your birth) : -14
Since this is a PREORDAINED event with a noted date, I wonder how it works.
Are we encountering Paxxia in the Underdark or the Ecumene if our family is currently there?

>>96367679
With more OC, obviously.

>>96367697
tf are you doing near charlie

>>96367698
Lmao. No content from other authors will allow them to compete. Even Reddit consoder his CYOAs to be rhe highest quality.

>>96367710
He's a Buki chad trying to die early

>>96367710
You're not speedrunning Nilmatrix?

>>96367760
Why would I pick her at all?

>>96367779
ObviousTrap's encounter has the possibility of destroying your death letter. Or you're in for the thrill of the battle without the backing of the System.
Or you're just that confident in your abilities.

>>96367779
Her event gives you free immortality and frees you from the death rune if it hasn't triggered yet. However it is one less companion and the text mentions several times not to take the encounter lightly since she's Charlie's super weapon.
That if of course if you are not trying to fix her and consequently Charlie herself, there's even a mother now that supports that idea

>>96366567
>Second War of Heaven and Earth
https://mechinamusic.bandcamp.com/track/when-virtue-meets-steel

>>96367698
Italics status?

>>96367651
Nah, the incest brothers would not be good for the incest plan because even tho there are incestual, you don't gain anything good out of it. You need one of the 2 parents that has ethereal beauty, so your siblings are guaranteed to have it. And also saves you from buying it as your daughter has to have the ethereal beauty to maximixe it.

>>96366467
How much can Charlie interfere during the Shadow of God encounter?

>>96366597
So what's in the [Data Lost] file in Source Files>bonus>pdn for bonus ?

>>96366467
>unlimited respawns as long as true death doesn't happen
>true death that doesn't kill
>pixies can have true immortality

>>96367874
Tried to opening it before my PC freezed - it's the Oustider page I think.

>>96367828
>Fuck it, I will just bring back the giant mech hidden on the throne and destroy the world
I was wrong, the second was the smartest outsider of them all.

>>96367697
I imagine fate would conspire to have a middle ground, you would go eventually, because of fate, to a place easier to access and she would be out of her territory too. And then I guess some type of courtership or directly rape. Idk, we got practically 0 data except "you will procreate with her" and given our age, she was probably the one that wanted it the most.

>>96367894
>doubting the mechafag

>>96367884
You will still have a true death, it just won't be a death rune meaning that it won't be coming for you relentlessly. I'm guessing there is a way to find out what it is if someone tries to kill you.

>>96366554
My balance autism makes me want to object to there being a male only companion but not a female only one, even though I don't personally care much.

>>96367898
>rape
For who? Kid Eleventh who get taken advantaged of by a sexually frustratded Drakonid monarch, or Paxxia who got pigeonholed into having a child by you without her input?

>>96366597
>Extra races
Charlie robbed us

Who the fuck is Paxxia and what page are they on?

>>96367927
I would expect the powerful tyranic dragonid monarch to be the one fully in control of who she will have a kid with. So if someone would have to force the other one I would believe her more capable than 13 yo player.

If you play hard to get it was probably she wanting to get some good genes and dip out. Treating the player like an useful whore. But this is something only tankista would know

>>96367886
Both version of the previous Outsiders builds are in bonus with the extended races.

>>96367651
>Not picking Pantorai as your dad
fake incest enjoyer

>>96367952
Dragon's king most divine realm's queen. Page 8. Dragon loli.

>>96366541
>>96367925
Oh there she is, Thaumiel. Yeah I'm gonna be honest with you chief, I don't think "Evil bitch nobody likes" is really a good equal to "Cute dragon daughter" as an option.

>>96367952
The current leader of the Drakonids empire. Page 8.

>>96367983
Shame our own daughter is an ugly hag.

>>96367955
>I would believe her more capable than 13 yo player
Not if I use my Tok tier debate skills to explain why I'm the rapist and she's the useful whore

>>96367999
I am glad our daughter is a proper woman and not a child

>>96368021
Shit taste.

>>96364852
I've made an image build.

>>96368027
No, normal taste. Prefering a child over a grown woman is the shit taste.

>>96368047
>Normal taste
>Good
Nah, more like boring and shit.

>>96368035
>Incomplete Education
>Manifestation
???

>>96368072
I'm retarded, it's Revelation.

>>96368050
I am sure Tok has a lot of not normal takes about tastes and with your logic he would be fun and not shit. Being proudly different is something only an edgy teen should have the right to do and to grow out of it. Be better, grow up

>>96368088
This isn't a debate but bringing fucking Tok up out of nowhere has to be mean you lost somehow anyway.

>Savmak is a descendant of Savmak
>Omega is the daughter of 10th
>??? is the descendant of 9th
>Paxxia is the daughter of 8th
>Apantoxia is the daughter of 11th
I wonder if a babysitter build can still kill Charlotte.

>>96367999
>>96368021
I'm pretty sure the pic is of her once she grows up? I don't think anything implies accelerated aging.

>>96368107
>Omega is the daughter of 10th
>??? is the descendant of 9th
You mixed these up.

>>96368098
I accept your concession.

>>96368118
Growing up into a hag is a horrible curse indeed when one of her parents avoided that fate.

>>96368118
It means she will grow up to have the body type of an adult woman, unlike her mother that is stuck at loli. Of course if you meet her at 5 she will not be a tall woman with boobs and all.

>>96368127
you know you will die alone right?

>>96368132
nta, but would the Eternal Curse stop her aging?

>>96368146
You seem awfully upset over CYOAs, anon. Take a breather.

>>96368107
You are missing several descendants, Kashtanka is a descendant of the sixth, the demon lord's from the Third, etc.
You could theoretically make a build entirely out if different outsider descendants and then pair them up in the ultimate eugenics experiment to create the super earth baby that will tear down the world.

>>96368156
nah, the problem is not the cyoa, its you.

>>96366529
Man the Aranea buff is pretty sick, especially with all these new gifts. Double Jet Kick, Dead Sprint, Flowing Gait, and Esurient Walk is going to go crazy. Could even fit in Autoantecedence and go for an extra Dead Sprint or something, but I feel the addition of Blazing Seal is specifically to curb builds like that.

Overall really sick update, already trying to match together parents with no regard to the actual lives I'm fusing together for an ultimate combination of inheritances that'll make SRTR proud.

>>96368168
No I think the problem is you getting mad over CYOAs. Take a breather.

>>96368165
>pair them up in the ultimate eugenics experiment to create the super earth baby that will tear down the world.
I think I wrote something like that during the first release.

>>96368165
From where is all this information?

>>96368148
The eternal curse says it starts when they reach a prime age, that would count as adulthood. So no, it wouldn't really do much. Her race is already ageless and won't die of age, they mature until their prime age and then stop like the curse, so its only a drawback as you can't heal.

>>96368202
>that would count as adulthood
I think that's up to personal interpretation.

>>96366467
Remind me, is there any way to Death Wish(From Blood Magic) your chosen death, or do they work like that by default?

>>96368172
I didn't mention the cyoa at all. You are the problem, thankfully you are not my problem but I wanted to remind you of what will happen in your future. And that will be entirely because of your own decisions and "good taste". Have fun.

>>96366467
Nice, thank you for all of your hard work.

>>96368186
It's all indicated in their own blurbs.

>>96368216
You are getting mad over the CYOA though, because this is in response to people talking about said CYOA. So you need to stop getting mad, and take a breather.

>>96368210
Biologically it is not. I don't mean the "until 18" arbitrary number, but the curse and dragonoid race act biologically. If they are one of those people that have very early puberty and are basically done when they are 15 it would count. But the body has to recognize that as prime age, which is a body done with puberty.
Paxxia was probably just someone with hormonal problems and didn't get a puberty.

>>96366492
Is Nilmatrix the ultimate "I can fix her" bait?

>>96368211
Apart from being a Pixie

>>96368249
But you can't?

>>96366467
Fuck, son. Welcome back and I’m looking forward to diving in once again

>>96367454
SoonTM. I converted the pnds into pngs and stitched them into proper pages already. Now, only the uploading speed is an obstacle...

>>96368249
I don't think so, the bait tells you itself she can't not become an enemy.
She is the election between fighting matterheroine or she leaving you alone (if you can trust her)

>>96368296
whats a matterheroine

>>96366467
I'm glad that you're not conscripted and all, and happy for other anons enjoying your stuff, but can you please make a new CYOA now?

>>96368308
one of the many names of 0^0

>>96368249
I will fix her and have her betray Charlie after our inevitable fight.

>>96368249
I will save her, and together we'll save Charlie.

>>96368369
>>96368382
>Not even the cyoa itself telling them its impossible convinces them

>>96366467
Tankista you are the fucking GOAT

>>96368399
Charlie laid her bait well

>>96366947
The extended races is really killing me goddamn.

>the reddicord has officially taken over
What a grim day

>>96368399
>Not cradling her dying body while swearing revenge on Charlie for forcing the confrontation after years of bonding together
Where's your sense of dramatic tension? None of you are true followers of [SRTR]

>>96368468
Looking at the old Outsider builds none of them took any of the extended races so they probably wouldn't have been choosable even without Charlie or just weren't worth the cost somehow.

>>96368537
It just drives me nuts to see these cool things I can’t have. But I suppose that’s the point

>>96368537
Most people are boring and only want to be human.

>>96368399
It's a game of Meaning.
>Nilmatrix will always confront you
>Nilmatrix will not betray her master
Confronting her doesn't equal a deathmatch. Or it does from their perspective, but as we learned from Buki we can play around that. There is no scripted ending to that fight - only the starting point is carved in God-Script.
The crux of ending with both fighters standing is the second absolute. Again, you play the Meaning game - if 0^0 already went through a paradigm shift due to your actions, a bloodless end isn't betraying.
Or you could assume that Nilmatrix won't betray Charlotte the Outsider, as opposed to 0^0 the Usurper, which is another vector to exploit.
Or perhaps your final goal is not opposed to Charlie at all, so our bootleg JRPG Traitor join you for the final fight or whatever.

If everyone is twisting the story, why aren't you?

>>96366492
>Your father is Pantorai
>Your sister is Paxxia, she will rise you. you can use True Love with her as she counts as a free sibling
>Your daughter is Apantoxia, who loves you. You can use true love to make her incestual
Now, this is the ultimate incest build. Your family tree is a circle

>>96366467
Are there better arm Gifts for mages than Magician's Hand?

>>96368680
>true love perk
lmao

>>96368728
? Why would you not use it?

>>96368759
Because Charlie will mock them for it

>>96368759
Waste of points.

>>96368770
Thats pretty sad ngl, getting mocked by a karen and shyly listening to her

>>96368759
Doesn't it imply you don't trust yourself to romance them without it?

>>96368792
It is not a waste of point if your objective needs it. It is a waste of point if your objective does not need it.

>>96368728
What sort of narrative doesn't have designated love interests and heartbreak?
Imagine taking Charlie's bitter words at face value, I will make her daughter, her weapon, her followers love me and fuck them all in front of her

>>96368802
There is no objective that needs that perk. Not even the future daughter.

>>96368801
Some companions wouldn't need it but Paxxia? Paxxia is the type that never falls in love. She has the tyranny in her blood.
Meanwhile Apantoxia is your daughter so to make it less rapey and groomer you make fate do it.

>>96368819
If I can't have Matterwife I will have her daughter...
Its surprising the Ketter knows about true love but the daughter of Charlie does not.

>>96368759
NTA but I don't like influencing people with the System. How can I trust their feelings to be true? Would they love me without the perk? Would they hate me if they knew the romance was a constructed narrative on my part?

>>96368840
Keter used it Thaumiel, Charlie doesn't like Omega and has no reason to clue her in on it. She might do so if you pick her and use it on her.

>>96368680
True Love is incompatible with Sibling.

>>96368792
>Waste of points
No option is a waste of points, they will all build a meaningful story, a tragic love story will be much relevant to your adventure than some of the abilities you will certainly forget about most of the time. Besides, who care if it is forced, you can still fuck it up, just look at the one criticizing the choice in the first place.

>>96368823
>can't romance Paxxia without the perk
Skill issue

>>96366467
Can you skip inborn gifts if you do not want them?

>>96368871
Keter used it with Thaumiel? But Keter isn't an outsider right?

>>96368885
Beyond the ones from your parents, sure. But why?

>>96368894
Bro? She's the 10th Outsider

>>96368894
Anon...

>>96368902
I had a brain fart and didn't notice she was Katya. Well, if she used it with another person she should be fine by having it used on her

>>96368899
I want double flowing gait, but my mother´s gift takes up one leg slot.

>>96368901
Are the Elder Gods incest fans? Feels like a weird loophole to leave in if they were against it.

>>96368901
Nevermind me, I forgot that people don't like making second OCs in their games.

>>96368894
A-Anon..?

>>96368917
Clearly, not. They even make the siblings being your parents cheapier and an option

>>96368915
Probably for the best to change your mother then.

>>96368917
based if true

>>96368936
But my mom is the best mom for me.

>>96368917
>Are the Elder Gods incest fans?
Yes?
It's free drama
They may have even orchestrated for it to be taboo solely to increase the drama levels of their fated pairings

>>96363388
Kek, which of us here doesn't work for a living? In all seriousness, I would be glad to be a jobber in the CYOA context, because that would mean I'm being surpassed by better CYOA authors and there are more CYOAs to enjoy and inspire my own.

>>96363395
>Very wise, I'm glad you're making more stuff.
I've heard it a lot over the years, but didn't get it until I tried to put it into practice. The biggest danger is staying on the right side of the line between meticulous and meandering. I don't think I'm good at the process yet but I'm getting better.

>I wasn't even the guy you were originally talking to but, I ended up sinking about 150 hours into it, so thanks for the rec homie.
That's awesome to hear. I'm glad you got a lot of fun out of it, there's tons of good art buried under mass-consumer stuff. Can't beat the price of free either, hahaha.

>Yeah it's straight up bullshit in last 2 scenarios but I still beat it on normal with the Cultist faction.
Agreed. The Cult is my favourite faction too, juggling the day/night balance is fun.

>>96364014
>Oh, you did Struggle is Nigh!
Yep, I did a couple of others before that, but I don't consider them to be true CYOAs, at least by modern standards. The image alignment and text are amateurish and just not there yet. I'll probably rework and release them later.

>>96368960
>I did see the issues but I actually thought that was one of the best I’ve seen in a while. The balancing is maybe a little off but the fundamentals are all really solid—economy of language, the balance of specific vs general in descriptions, consistent style, a fairly original idea, etc. And I like that it has a goal, even if it’s a high bar.
That"s extremely high praise and I'm humbled to hear it, especially coming from you. The balancing is definitely suboptimal. I feel like most of the manifestations are able to survive through a guerilla approach, but my own favourite powerset, Brawn, doesn't have a clear route to victory as it does little to increase stealth and long-distance mobility, outside of leveraging strength to just dig or jump. I spent several days fine-tuning the text and checking for typos. I'm glad that you liked it.

>This is going to be a very interesting twist on a genre that’s pretty heavy on power fantasy, even if it comes with built-in challenges.
I hope so. A lot of it is more implied than explicit, but between the regions, fluff, and boons, I hope players will get a clear image of their situation. I've considered making a CYOA that's pure logistics where you're juggling scarce resources and high demands, as the low-end "ruler" of a chunk of an isolated asteroid belt with ruinous mineral quotas to meet and not much to get by. It's not on my current list of WIPs to complete but if I did do it, I'll most likely make it a 40k CYOA for ease of image finding and player engagement.

>>96368950
Your faced with a choice then. What feels right and what feels optimal.

>>96368965
>This is a pretty neat way to give players a sense of what they’re up against… I was considering a separate section for ship boons vs personal boons, so this kind of thing would fit in pretty easily.
I love lore sections myself and am including one in the upcoming CYOA, for the sake of answering questions ahead of time, but think the best way to give lore to players is threading it through other options. One of my favourite CYOAs that does this is Deadlands by HAL, which gives a very clear image of the dangers you're dealing with without going into overly detailed minutia. I wish you luck in your work!

>>96364024
I've been very happy to see a few anons discussing how they're making CYOAs over the last week or two. Explaining GIMP, offering advice, etc. There's surprisingly little communication between authors in the /cyoag/. I don't consider myself to be an author yet as I've only got one real release, once I have three, I'll count myself as one. I think there's a subtle gradient between lurkers and authors.

>>96368965
>Brawn, doesn't have a clear route to victory
Can Brawn process formerly inedible food like rocks and soil? If yes, then a sure win strategy is to dig underground.

>>96366467
I! FUCKING! KNEEL!

>>96368967
Is this the fate of all outsiders?

>>96368975
Why would authors need to communicate wuth each other? Why would authors need to communicate to improve when they just get shitted on?

>>96366492
>>96368107
The 11th would also be the son/daughter (I guess son if Apantoxia is canon) of the 8th if you choose Pantorai. As Pantoria's wife now we know is Erginter.
Is weird btw that with how stacked Erginter was at the end of her life being basically a behemoth of power we only receive 3 inborn gifts, none from her.

>>96368885
See Misalliance.

>>96369010
She had to be nerfed.

>>96366467
I'm not smart enough for this, but I'll try

>>96369012
That removes all of them, i only want that one leg.
Guess i will have to invent a spell to help with the dmc acrobatics.

>>96368287
Shit, I can't stitch a png version of the maps.

>>96366467
Tank, add the png/pdn version of maps to the google drive please. Currently, only the world maps have their png/pdn version accessible.

>>96369010
>Is weird btw that with how stacked Erginter was at the end of her life being basically a behemoth of power we only receive 3 inborn gifts, none from her.
She only had 2 natural ones, and one of them was about getting nothing from her chosen parent, so I guess her stolen ones just weren't inheritable.

>>96369057
Wouldn't PSD be better?

>>96369075
Tank uses paint.net, so I asked for pdn, though png is more convenient for me as I would convert the pdn into png anyway.

>>96368984
There's no nutritional value in dirt, but I'd say Brawn at its peak can consume radioactive minerals to supplement his diet, like how a chicken does with gravel. Soil that's been blasted with fertilizer or is especially rich with plants could give some trace nutrients, but at such a ratio you'd have to consume multiple times your bodyweight daily to sustain yourself. That isn't possible early on but if you continue getting stronger, your stomach will get to be less of an organ and more of a furnace. It'll be digesting roughly as fast as you can eat and if you pushed it, storing nutrients potentially weeks in excess. Brawn is more or less consigned to permabulk.

>>96369005
>Why would authors need to communicate wuth each other?
For the same reasons anyone does, fun and mutual improvement.

>Why would authors need to communicate to improve when they just get shitted on?
No authors need to communicate, otherwise the number of CYOAs would be a fraction of what it is. It is good to, though, because people often have ideas that nobody else ever would, or find solutions to problems, or innovate on the medium, etc. More authors talking means more creative juices flowing. It rebounds on itself and leads to net gain over time, in my opinion.

Authors get shitted on regardless, which is one of the key factors that separates the /cyoag/ from reddit. It's impossible to have highs without lows. IRL, I sometimes do things that I hate or dislike doing as it makes the things I love or like that much better by comparison. Sort of like eating a bar of hershey's poison slop a few days before some swiss chocolate is supposed to show up in shipping, or something akin to that. It's foul but makes the pleasure that much richer by contrast. This isn't related, but I think this is the reason why so many sex-obsessed people are also masochists, they're subconsciously craving the contrast.

>>96368894
Is anyone even going to pick Thaumiel as a mentor? She's a total bitch with no redeeming traits, and I think what she teaches you as a mentor is just the method she and Keter used to make lesbian babies and not actually anything useful.

>>96369092
Last time authors communicated the solutions offered by anons led to them butchering their CYOAs

>>96369069
yeah, a sad case. And I think we also don't have a way with mentors to gain that ability of hers.
Pantorai keeps being one of the worst options, the only good thing about it is your sister not wanting to kill you if you don't want the throne.

>>96369106
I mean, I am not a girl so she can't teach me anything. So I guess I will choose her ex and use true love on her just like she did with Thaumiel.

>>96369088
You can alter png files layers with Gimp?

>>96369137
Pantorai is mandatory for the true incest route.

>>96369118
When did this happen? I don't remember anything like it.

>>96369168
Italics is a big example that butchered his CYOA listening to feedback.

>>96369151
Keter is at least a redeemable fuckup who knows she's a shitter and did wrong, and also teaching you how to evade death letters is a useful skill, so I can see why people would pick her. Thaumiel though?

>>96369189
She'll just keep moving forward.

>>96369118
Did it? I'm sure it has but I can't remember the last time that happened. Discerning whether something's a good idea or not is also important, and again, there's nothing to be done for differing tastes. What one anon enjoys another anon is disinterested in. There aren't any CYOAs out there that appeal to everyone, outside of maybe the old button CYOAs but even those are condemned for being low-effort.

>>96369189
>>96369106
If the kids you can make are as good as ???, you will be able to get quite army of esoteric bullshit children. That and fixing her if you are really into Yuri redemptions. Or use dice fudge and give her the dick correction.

>>96369238
??? is only bullshit because she psyopped herself into forgetting her own identity/existence, not because she's a lesbian baby. Also, 'fixing'? Shouldn't there be something worth salvaging there in the first place?

>>96369167
Literally the only good thing about it. But 5 points, no mother, only those 3 gifts... uff
I think I will simply fuck Paxxia without incest

>>96369256
Yet people are talking about saving Nilmatrix, which is a lot worse.

>>96369275
Thaumiel's market is more Niche since she's only pickable by women.

>>96369275
Nilmatrix is said to have some doubts about her actions - Thaumiel doesn't. The former is higher on the waifu scale.

>>96366597
One question for when you come back. If Paxxia is your sister, your daughter is Apantoxia, you use true Love (or romance her normally) to romance Paxxia so you don't flee. What happens with Apantoxia's part about running away with you? Would the love of her parents and you not living Paxxia's made her still hate her mother and escape?
Another person asked about Apantoxia and true love working. In theory, it should. Would that make Paxxia mad?

Tankista: Pumping out new content all year
Italics: 1 Flop CYOA

>>96369265
Pantorai father also means that the Eight is your mother and while she doesn't give you any direct bonus, I'm sure that fact can allow you to screw over fate in several weird and unexpected ways, like finding a way to replicate her kill steal ability or turn into a demon dragon or whatever bullshit concept you can come up with.

>>96369238
>>96369256
Wait... so ??? is the daughter of 10th and Thaumiel... so those two fuckers decided to abandon their child because the child rightfully looked like her parents? Man, I thought they were depressed because of the whole fiasco but they are simply fucked up.
Mainly the 10th outsider who not only used true love to make a lesbian baby but also abandoned her and thinks she was hero. It only makes me want to pick all three and force them to be parents. But as not only Thaumiel is useless if you are not a woman and is the better of the two ex girlfriends I will only pick the 10th outsider to make her be a parent. Maybe use True Love on her too as a punishment and to give ??? a sibling

>>96369408
>Thaumiel is useless if you are not a woman and is the better of the two ex girlfriends
No she's not

>>96369354
Eh... in theory we only get from the parents what they would teach and their inborn gifts. Erginter's ability was one she learnt from a mentor that is dead. So I wouldn't count on that.

If I were Tankista and with this revelation (that maybe was not planned, or at least her powers were not planne) I would put some more advantages to being the child of those two, mainly because it costs 5 points for only "one parent option" and gives nothing special because of it, any parent with Royal claim is better than Pantorai, and even Pantorai's royal claim comes with your super powerful sister, the one that raised you, wanting you death if you want to use it.

>>96369408
>is the better of the two ex girlfriends
Are you only saying this because she cleaned up Dis and be useful for any future conflict with Charlie?

>>96369412
"No" in which of those two affirmations?

>>96369408
>the better of the two ex girlfriends
Have we read the same descriptions?

>>96369450
Wouldn't it obviously be the opinion based one instead of disagreeing with the cyoa text?

>>96369435
>and even Pantorai's royal claim comes with your super powerful sister, the one that raised you, wanting you death if you want to use it
I mean if you use the other major Royal Claim, Zwa or Iwnn's, you have three aunts and a cousin who all want you dead, so.

>>96369448
I say this because while Keter is depressed doing nothing, Thaumiel does not give up and still wants to do the right thing. The cyoa directly compares both of them in this point of them.

>>96369464
Pantorai's makes one of the strongest alive beings want you death. Zwa's only makes humans with political power want you death

>>96369469
>Thaumiel does not give up and still wants to do the right thing
No she doesn't, she thinks she did nothing wrong in being a backstabbing coward who abandoned Keter to run from Charlotte, she doesn't intend to fight 0^0 at all, and she's actively looking for someone to pawn Dis off on so she has no responsibilities.

>>96369408
Only reason why this happens is because of Tankista being a bigot to make lesbian relationships unfunctional.

Honestly, Keter's biggest sin for me is abandoning ???. Everything else is pretty understandable from her perspective.

>>96369480
>No she doesn't, she thinks she did nothing wrong in being a backstabbing coward who abandoned Keter to run from Charlotte,
That does not change in the present one of them is depressed and does nothing. The other one wants to help and does things.

>>96369483
He chose to portray them realistically.

>>96369502
>The other one wants to help and does things.
The other doesn't want to help or do anything, she's looking to pawn it off. Do you know what that means, ESL?

>Thaumiel is so shit people are defending Keter
WEW

>True Love Keter
>True Love Thaumiel
>True Love ???
>Makes them all a happy family

>>96369513
Well the reveal is that Thaumiel was the one to break ranks first and flee in the final fight, ruining their chance to win.

>>96367651
I see quite a few Targaryan options here.

>>96369523
> -3 Destiny points
> -3 Ancestry points
Charlotte will steamroll you.

>>96369524
Well Keter's description hints they were going to lose because the power of friendship doesn't work without SRTR. That and Nilmatrix being controlled by Charlie

>>96369542
Nilmatrix betrayed them before this

>>96369534
>t. Charlie
It's your fault your boyfriends and children left you, not the choices from the system.

>>96369534
I don't care about Charlotte. She will leave me alone, I will leave her alone.

>>96369545
Did she? In Keter's bonus page part we see her 3 companions, that in theory made her party with her (4), one of them is Thaumiel after all, but we don't see Nilmatrix there and in Keter's description it says she had a party of 5. Maybe its someone we don't know.

>>96369542
It's hinted that rather than the power of friendship not working, Keter actions were so far removed from heroic that no power of friendship was going to save her. She used the elves as canon fodder, betrayed both the old throne and Dirk Yesod , messed up countries out of convenience and abandoned her daughter for petty reasons. The narrative simply couldn't justify her actions.
She even admits in her page that she wasn't anywhere close to the hero she painted herself as.

>>96369548
Looking at her build this is true, both her mentors have Yee and could return to her if they wanted to, she's the one who chose to give Edvard Tsy instead of any of the okay ones, no idea what Omega does, and two of them didn't even have death slots.

>>96366467
So, which parents can give the most Ap with misalliance ?

>>96369583
At that point just pick the femboy father and big tits mother

>>96369575
I don't think she chose her as a companion, just picked her up later one since that's something you can just do.

>>96366467
Do Thoroughbreeding also give Malady, Bitter Sickness and Missed Shape are explicitly not Gifts but what about the two other ?

>>96369586
>femboy father
which one?

>>96369611
one of the 10 or so there are. Just like there are also a lot of big tits mothers.

>>96369559
>t. killed during the conquest at 50 yo
Grim.

>>96369602
Yeah, I think the same. Which is why her 3 chosen companions and herself make a party of 4. Which means she had someone that she didn't choose by the system/cyoa with her, which is why I think it was Nilmatrix

>>96369583 (me)
Probably the ones that cost 1, like Stoyan(top of p4) cost 1 but have 10 points worth of Gifts, all martial Gifts too, you could take 4 mental boost Gifts and have 1 Ap left or both Magician's hand and one or two legs.

>>96366467
https://imgchest.com/p/5xy22anpnyl

I put the png version (converted and some stitched from their original pnd version) of the main cyoa and bonuses, and all the postable maps into an imgchest. Enjoy.

>>96367506
You can even make your daughter be split into two with Iotated Lesser Yus, as this is only make her split physically without changing her mind she still loves you, with two bodies. She will only be weaker, but double breeding

>>96369354
>Pantorai father
I feel like half the reason he's popular is because the fathers tend to be lower status/relevance in a build, with Pantorai being the big, big exception.

>flowery titles
>doubts but not enough to change course
>pigeonholed by divine mandate
>quest is literally called "Shadow of God"
Is Nilmatrix just a microcosm of the Usurper herself?

>>96369703
On which page is >>96367874 ?

>>96369780
28

>>96369703
Why the fuck did Charlie choose to be born in the Orthrung continent? She didn't even pick an elf as a mentor/companion

>>96369703
>>96366467
Who is the biggest bait besides Nilmatrix?

>>96369837
Evdokia if you make her immortal?

>>96369837
Your waifu.

>>96369837
Charlie if you're dumb enough to take her as a mentor with Buki?

>>96366467
>>96366532
I have been lucky enough to achieve irl the comfy life I wished for back then, and hence haven't visited the thread in years - until I saw the update today.
I no longer feel the need to go through it again.

I hope you anons are happy too.

>>96368211
This is how the death letters work right? Or do you need to have Perpetuity for that?

>>96369863
>Hey Anon, watch this-

>>96369870
>I hope you anons are happy too.
lol
lmao

>>96369870
Perhaps not happy, but it is good that people still enjoy OR. Glad that you are doing well anon.

>>96369870
A rare thing, blessed be the tide.
And you, support spider.

>>96366529
I'm tempted to drop double Esurient Walk for triple Kneeling Twilight, but the extra time is so good and Spiritual Feel already boost understanding so I don't think it's quite worth it.

>>96369870
Of course I am! My favorite CYOA just got an update that'll keep me going for a while.
...But I'm also happier in general nowadays. Like you, I think some of the things sought in my build were attained across the years.
I hope you'll keep being comfy wherever you are.

>>96366532
What's the difference?

>>96366467
Quick and dirty build numbers I'm ironing for a Speedster Spider idea I had.

>Mother: Plevaka -3 A
-Iron Stomach
-Jet Kick
-Dead Sprint
-Flowing Gait
A spider mom who gives a wide array of the new limbs out the gate? Hell yes, sign me up. Both of the new Aranea are great since the old one only came with non limb gifts, which is cool and all but I choose to have as many gifts in my physical body as possible and this makes it much easier.

>Father: Dryndedh-From-Agartha +1 A
-Stigmata
-Far Graze
-Jet Kick
-Second Wind
Honestly one of the biggest bangs for your buck, you get paid while taking several great Gifts. That's 11 points value for absolutely nothing. Well except for taking a eternally cursed and shunned dark elf as a father but thats the price to pay for power.

>Gifts:
Iron Stomach
Second Wind
Meandering Thought +3 A
Last Breath -3 A
Blazing Seal -3 A
Stigmata
Fighter's Eye x2 -4 A
Esurient Walk x2 -6 A
Far Graze x2 -4 A
Jet Kick x2 A
Dead Sprint x2 -3 A
Flowing Gait x2 -1 A
Shadow Footwork x2 -6 A
>Languages:
Late Thulean (Free)
Simplified Duergar -2 D +5 A
High Elvin -3 D +1 A

>Encounters:
A Pack of Goblins +1 A
A Hop, a Leap, a Hobgoblin +1 D +1 A
A Band of Ogres +2 D +1 A
A Bridge, a Toll, a Troll +2 D +2 A

Being an Aranea was always good, but now you don't have to be forced into a sort of jack of all trades role since all these new options can actually lend themselves into specific powersets for amazing synergy. Plus they come with their own lifespan modifiers now so there's no real worry on that end, which is also really great for healing yourself.

With this you can move at insane speeds with perfect coordination while dodging anything thrown at you, shrugging off what does manage to somehow catch you, and kick with enough force to shatter walls. Going more magical leaning to get Overflowing Eye to make an insanely long Emanation chain could be fun, just need to ditch Fighter's eye and shuffle things around to take off Meandering.

>>96366467
Lol, there's still Uruk hordes in the Ecumene's home continent?

When are we getting real OC? I am not a fan of recycled cyoas. We already have enough in the movie and videogame industry when it comes to that

>>96370035
They're the STRONGEST.

>>96370035
URURCS IS MADE FOR FIGHTIN AN WINNIN

>>96369991
And with some quick adjustments did manage to fit it in Overflowing and drop Meandering Thought, just had to throw Orcs into my Encounters. Don't really know if Meandering actually affects my ability to channel magic via gifts in this way as I don't know if there's an attributed Meaning I have to focus on the entire time, or if its just done during the link's creation and all that matters is that I have enough magic to supply the link as long as its open. Either way if it even has the chance to hinder the eye there's no real reason to keep it around.

Counting just Limb gifts, it should mean that I can make a chain that goes up to 14. I gotta be honest though I got no idea how Overflowing Eye works. I know its not as simple as just creating a clone to fight as you are sort of defenseless while you are focusing on controlling your emanation, but for a chain do you have to personally see every single emanation in the chain, or does the Overflowing Eye work through their sightline and they control it. And also does that Emanation also just kind of go catatonic while controlling the person in front of them or what. Its very confusing, but the idea of forcing someone to fight past 14 progressively faster and stronger spiders till they have to fight the real deal is appealing enough to take it despite my confusion on how it actually works.

>>96369991
Consider missed shaping one of your arms if you still need more points

>>96369991
>Rider Kick Charlie
Kino

>>96370124
Unfortunately Aranea can't do that, otherwise we would see a lot of them who've pruned themselves back to a human number amount of limbs. Don't really need the points as squeezing stuff around makes it entirely possible, its mostly a matter of what I'd even want to go for past that point as anything else is just small supplementary gifts since I filled out the limb gift limits.

>>96366467
Does Theta give you knowledge from if parents taught you?

>>96366529
Ok so how bullshit can Autoantecedence theoretical be? Say I have a Triple-picked Starsight, can I assume that it no longer needs written spells to function and I can just copy any spell I see once? or is this too much?

>>96366492
>Description for the effect of double Eye for Shadows has been slightly altered to make it feel more authentic to the gift.
I always felt it wasn't a very good gift desu. Still do.

>>96365436
>Picking anyone other than Akika or Liam causes you to become eternal when you're already looking old as fuck

>>96365436
>The Masquerade must be protected, anon! The mundanes must never learn that supernatural creatures walk among them!
Because the so-called kings of the night are afraid of guns?

>>96370542
Well with Liam you can just doing what you're already doing so no big deal there. Otherwise, grab your shamisen and practice putting on your lead makeup, little geisha.

>>96370586
Haha. You wish witch awakening is only as stupid as that.

>>96370616
Isn't it because there's a bunch of gods and they don't want witches upsetting the status quo with their human pets?

>>96370616
>Witch Awakening
What was it again? Needing Earth to remain under the Masquarade because it was the template for the others planes?

>>96370586
You now remember how the gunfags and Illuminati support the masquerade in Magi Case and hunt mages when they aren't in groups.

>>96370717
>and hunt mages when they aren't in groups
Everyone does that, not just the glowies. The Covens will also just kidnap you to rape and/or kill you, or even just sell your ass to literally fucking Epstein. Honestly the only way to be safe is to be in good with one of the Covens so you're less likely to be targeted. Red Mother is probably best for that since you can also get Visceramancy out of it.

>>96370717
>hunt mages when they aren't in groups.
As they should.

>>96370735
Magi Case... has all that?

>>96370743
We're talking Witch Awakening.

>>96370735
No compromise with filth. They have to go.

>>96370747
>Glowie says, while working with the US Government and Alpharazon

>>96370752
>Outsider
>Hespatians
>Alpharazon
>Lunabellum
I can't stomach them. By contrast the glowies, the school and the church are non-threats.

>>96370782
I hate Lunabella too for the whole slavery thing, but calling them a 'threat' is a bit much, they just want to party on the moon in their retarded slave-caste society.

>>96370791
>calling them a 'threat' is a bit much
I'll concede that point. They're just extremely distasteful and muddy my experience by virtue of being there.

>>96370735
>>Visceramancy out of it.
>Anon wants to drink the cum chalice.

>>96370808
I-I did it for the dare!

>>96369813
She was a bratty contrarion since day one.
>>96370586
Least delusional guncuck.

>>96370853
her correction is long overdue

>>96370865
True

>>96370865
Anon you're unable to get your dick wet without a love perk, you'll never correct Charlie

>>96369703
>the Ecumene is STILL infested with Uruks
Horde master race confirmed.

>>96370808
A witch has gotta do what a witch has gotta do to access all schools of magic, anon.

>>96370877
That's the easiest thing in the world to do. Just find a pond and get waist deep. BAM, dick is now wet, Charlotte is left impotent and seething.

>>96370912
NTA but if Charlotte is watching you on her scrying ball like a TV show it's already over.

>>96366467
We have been blessed today.

>>96370919
Who knew she'd be into voyeurism!

>>96370919
You just know she used mathemagicks to make it a TV because Charolette is a dork.

>>96370946
It's not voyeurism.
Think about it rationally. We're talking about an opponent that will most likely try to kill. If the gods don't prevent scrying, you have to exploit this flaw to its fullest degree. You can't delegate the task to someone else - no one knows Outsider better than yourself. Finally, this is a great tool for psychological warfare as it will taint all his interactions should they ever choose to go against you. Even if you were somehow monitoring their intimate moments, it'd be to ensure they're not creating a web of informant behind your back.
It's the logical course of action.

>>96370808
I dont recall reading that under the power description. Is there something you want to confess?

>>96370919
>Charlotte is living voyeuristically through the Outsider's adventures
Tragic

>>96370984
He's talking about the Blood Chalice quest to get access to Visceramancy, which involves you being involved to an orgy/sacrifice where the collected sex juice and blood from 200 people (100 of whom will be sacrificed) is magically concentrated and filtered into the eponymous Blood Chalice to be drunk by 5 very special participants (including you, if you take it) and thus get access to Visceramancy. So there's absolutely a certain amount of cum going into that chalice, though whether the resulting ritual fluid can reasonably be said to contain cum anymore and not a magic elixir without any discrete sperm cells is up for debate.

>>96366467
What the hell is a dungeon? It keeps being mentioned.

>>96371005
From donjon, a medieval french word for a fortified keep that would later be associated with the word jail (gaol in medieval french) thanks to its use in containing high-security prisoners.

>>96371001
This is why you just use a wish to get that school instead.

>>96371039
It's more cost effective to use wishes to give yourself lots of perks and/or relics. You just need to suck it up and drink the ritual flood made from blood, cum, vaginal lubricant, and less savory things. It's only one little sip, you'll manage.

>>96371039
I'm not playing CYOAs to get a taste of reality, Mom.

>>96366467
How good is the Blazing Seal?

I love it when a humongous CYOA drops and the thread is silent for a few hours while everyone sculpts their builds.

>>96371039
I dont see this as needing a wish, just that the quest let's you spend RP instead of power.

>>96371137
I could probably be done updating my build by now, but I'm reading the new pages for kicks.

>>96371137
It's a comfy feeling.
>>96371169
Same.

>>96366467
If you become a Majin, can you pick your letter and spell?

>>96366467
>so many You for an update
cyoag has fallen

>>96371005
They are magic adventure dungeons that pop from thin air from time to time with treasures inside. An invention of [SRTR] to crate classic adventure parties and involved in the whole dream aspect the Majin are related to since they are solid dreams.
They are tied to the Godscript so their inner workings are never properly explained, only that only parties of four may enter and they generate loot randomly. There's more about them spread throughout the descriptions

>>96371137
I'm reading everything again to remember any old plait point I might have forgotten and it is a really long Cyoa so making a new build will take a while even if I already have some ideas.

>>96370879
Thanks, it gave me an idea for a build that isn't a near perfect copy of my last one.

>>96366467
What does gaining instances of letters of the god script do?

Make a new thread you pathetic craps

>>96369991
Did some more shuffling and theorycrafting about a more optimized build. Dropped a purchase of Far Graze as even though its great, it does little in combination with other abilities and legmaxxing frees up the need for the weapon by committing fully, and grabbed Overstep instead. Also took another quest and chose a location for an extra 2 points, alongside some other budget swapping, giving me 6 points to use as I want. The only real step is deciding which path I want to take between different versions to sprinkle in more magical potential or rounding it off pretty much as is.

Overflowing Pupil seems amazing in combination with how many gifts I have, but since I don't know how it exactly works or how much magical talent I'd need to actually use it effectively it's way riskier. Fighter's Eye on the other hand is exactly what a build like this can take advantage of as it would have the ability to respond to threats with things like Far Graze, Shadowstep, Esurient Walk, and so on. Plus with the points I got left I could go wild with Autoantecadence and maybe even pick Meandering Thought back up again to go for some expensive triple gift. Or just grab another Flowing Gait and not take any maladies at all. Might even be worth grabbing Icon of Icons and Devout Signature to become a true champion of [SRTR]...

I'm this close to achieving space flight by setting up a giant ramp aiming at the moon, I can feel it in my bones.

>>96371481
Sorry, too busy reading. You should, though! You can even choose the CYOA for it.

>>96366467
Which patron god are you guys going with?

>>96366467
Is Jdan (first page 13) supposed to be free?

>>96371560
>Choose your own CYOA
Praise [JNPL]

>>96371563
[YMRD]

I'm have a gut feeling that this wouldn't work, but it'd be hilarious if you could off-screen Nilmatrix via Dobrava's precompleted encounters.

>>96371563
Depends on the build. I have six and counting just for the update.

>>96371563
JNPL

>>96371563
[JNPL]. There's no way to not kill anyone otherwise.

>>96371563
Myself from the future.

>>96371572
Nvm, the true cost is in the slot.

>>96371677
Please adopt the name NTR when you do

>>96371691
His name has to be four letters.

>>96369513
That's what happens your name marks you as The Evil Keter.

>>96371702
That restriction is bullshit, there are a lot more than 45^4 people in the cycles of reincarnation.

>>96366467
Do Untimeskip and Dice Fudge eat a Mentor/Companion slot ?

>>96371721
Untimeskip does eat up a mentor slot, even if it becomes more of a companion than a mentor. Using Dice Fudge on a mentor turns him into a companion so you still have all your mentor slots but one less companion slot.

>>96366492
I feel like Thallan is a bit of an overpriced dad now since he has so few inborn gifts next to newer, cheaper ones.

>>96366467
I regularly visit this general and can wait out on the answers to these.

>What happens if you die in another universe after making the Judge deal?
>Does Hollow Wisdom give fewer sorcery slots than a real Wizard?
>Do sacrifices need to be exactly as deep into the chain as their spell demands, and no further, theoretically allowing us to cut a Blood mage's power by tricking them into overdrawing, or can you use a dead guy to power a loooot of Third Sin spells?

>What do Outsiders look like when they're still inside of the system?
>Dying on Earth is the 42nd letter, the number associated with the mathematical purpose of Earth in the Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy. Intentional?
>Yest' seems to suggest that wild animals are also part of the cycle of reincarnation, so, would 0^0 eventually collapse the ecosystem, rainworld style, if she created a permanent permanent afterlife? I guess that the Elder Gods would have the same problem if it weren't for [YMRD]'s agenda.
>Is there an unexceptional afterlife between reincarnations?
>Does Evdokia get a ghost from someone if their 'death' was only one of the abstract kinds?
>What did Buki or Ot do in earlier centuries?
>Along similar lines, what did the system say about Khier before that whole Keter fiasco?
>Is it possible to naturally Zhivete anyone's death, that is to say, do all letters only guarantee the circumstances of a certain cause of death, just like Buki?
>There isn't an obvious point to buying companions with Theta.
>... UNLESS we're talking about Zenia, as she's in the Toybox with (You), except that the flavor text has conflicting consequences. Does she drop alongside the Eleventh in Twelve's century? Does she drop to save the eleventh as her text says? Does she drop to save a companion option taken by the 11th, before they reincarnate? Is this something left up to the reader?
>Which Outsiders owned people as slaves?
>Hey! Was Tuzik's companion, was Chou a reference to Unicorn Jelly of all things?

>>96371770
>>To achieve this aim, the sorcery taps into the rules governing the world. It approximates any length of past history to faithfully make immersive personalities for the avatar, but does not retroactively alter the larger world to insert this resulting piece. Neither does it project avatars out of nothing, the user needs to pick subjects from whom the avatar would claim descent, even if no act of union ever took place in reality. Through this method, the resulting avatar can be of any race and bear any local magical talent, and even things like demigods become possible.
>I get it. But that's not supposed to be relevant right now, Time of Troubles reads like the only CYOA so far where it could be applied, so are we going to see a multiplayer option there?
>Did your backburner also have a CYOA titled 'Luminary'?

>>96371774
>Luminary
It's going to be a pain in the ass to find one of them in the archives.

>>96366891
>lie
I don't particularly dislike Italics, but I really hate the Shitalics Cult. They're the ones that make the name Italics sound so much worse.

How did you guys figure out that 0^0's real name is Charlotte?

>>96371884
>"Born 200 years ago under the name of Charlotte..."
It's text for her leader blurb under the Ecumene.

>>96371839
Wait until you hear of the Tok Cult

NEW THREAD:
>>96371953
>>96371953
>>96371953

>>96371381
You can apply them again after assigning them to a character

>>96366473
Can Death of the author break 0^0's control over causality enough to help convincing Nilmatrix to betray her?