Thread 96376513

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>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:
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>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth
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『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』
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>What size magnets do I need?
5x1mm
>Tactics
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>Thread Question:
Favorite vehicle in the game on treads?

>>96376513 (OP)
first forDA fags are the prime loosers of 3.0

>>96376513 (OP)
>Falchion posting hours
Fuck yes. This bad boy is taking the field sunday. Hopefully it doesn't miss all game and die spectacularly. Would a battlesmith character in an Augur squad behind it be... too good? It can only return fire to other super heavies, but a free smoke screen sound pretty good. It would make it cost 940 effectively. Maybe not a good idea regardless.

>>96376572
Brother your bad ideas started when you elected to take a falchion, might as well go all in

But when does the solar aux baneblade drop?

>>96376588
Nevee

>>96376588
Asking the real questions. A 32mm version of the this kit would be a buy for me and I don't play SA.

>>96376572
The auger squad can do other things too

>>96376513 (OP)
TQ
Felblade, it fucks good, really good.
>>96376525
Feels bad man.

>>96376605
what variant?

>>96376586
Pish posh
>>96376612
True, really they would float around the backline and support everything. I'm taking a Mortifactor to try out dreads and notice he has battlesmith as well. My list may not be optimized but it will be flashy.

>>96376636
I would magnetize it like I did with the current kit.

>>96376652
>What variant
>I would magnetize it
>Does not answer the question
Ok lets try that again.
What variant?

>>96376513 (OP)
>I'm reading Prince of Crows and I already am interested on making a Night Lords army simply because of Sevatar's snarking
Fuck...

>>96376656
Would I use? Most of them? Likely since I dont have troops it would be a gun platform and swap between Hellhammer, Shadowsword, or Baneblade. though I could just use my 40k Scions as fancy militia and take a Stormlord.

Made myself a Kargos Bloodspitter, but got carried away and forgot to include a narthesium. Anyway I can add to him to show his heritage as an apothecary?

>>96376683
Some sort of phials or cylinders around his belt. Cracks open armor with the axe and just rips their guts out and shoves them into containers.

>>96376572
It is real hours, just not falchion's :^)

>>96376693
That's actually a great idea.

>>96376572
>9th legion
>the tank is yellow
huh?

>>96376572
based falchion user
I still haven't brought mine out for a game yet

>>96376769
9th company or chapter presumably

>>96376513 (OP)
>TQ
I just think they're neat.

>>96376831
But the pilot is in red. And there's a raven on the side.

Good power Scythes or Rape John French. Call it.

>TQ
Mars-pattern Vindi

>>96376867
Good power scythes.
Then rape French with it.
All the French.

>>96376877
Need option of AV14 siege shield

>>96376877
You're....Correct!

>>96376867
Fuck DG being good before SoT, called and clapped

>>96376605
Every single SA player would buy at least one instantly, it seems like an easy win for GW.

If I were to take a veteran heavy support squad solely for disintegrators, is there any reason besides price to go for blasters over heavy disintegrators? Heavies seem like flat better blasters when not moving, and equal or slightly better when you are, and it's "only" 5 ppm more.

>>96376769
Numerals aren't just legion designations, Anon. It could be the 9th armored company or something.

>>96376513 (OP)
So what's up with the Golshi posting in the OP?

how popular is LI? will it last or is it just another flop?

>>96377037
Modestly? You get some people doom posting but it has a niche and I'll be joining a local group with my friend soon, but it has to share space with the old Epic.

>>96377037
Its one of those, its hard to get some one into it, but legit once peopel play it they get it and usually stick with it.

Funny enough LI is probably the most solid rule set they have.

>>96377037
>>96377052

If LI were 6mm, I would cheerlead so fucking hard for it, BUT

Which legions hate civilians the most? My vote is on Iron Hands, followed by World Eaters, followed by Space Wolves

>>96377108
ultramarines. They turned Monarchia into Gaza

>>96376946
>just the SA
The 40k Guard collectors would also buy them in bulk because its an extremely fancy baneblade. It would be a very successful kit I think.

This is a potential long shot.
Are any of you guys Boston based? If so, I'm not trying to meet up, I just need to know which stores actually carry Heresy products.

Shupah saturnine

>>96377193
Nyc over here, sorry.

>>96377125
LMAO that's foul.

>>96376513 (OP)
>Favorite vehicle in the game on treads?
Its easily the Sicarian, I don't even collect marines but its a truly beautiful tank.

>>96377209
Wish they were in stock at my LGS. I've wanted one for a while.

>>96376513 (OP)
>TQ
Same as >>96377209 . Also the Mastodon, it looks stupid and I love it.

>>96376513 (OP)
>>Thread Question:
>Favorite vehicle in the game on treads?
Honestly, the humble Rhino. They have served my armies well for decades throughout numerous editions. And there's certain quiet beauty to the humble simplicity of a light APC workhorse.

>>96377108
There are no "Civilians", only a target rich environment.

>>96377193
Bostonian here. You’re kinda SOL for heresy stuff, it seems like the one line of GW products that isn’t carried around here. I’ve found the odd vehicle box here and there, but nothing with a full range. I’ve looked at places north of i90 and between 495 and 95, plus around the Nashua area, and it feels like a desert. You’ll have better luck shopping online, sadly.

which horus heresy battle contains the most hype moments and aura

>>96377294
Damn.
I used to go to Alpha Omega at their old location, but ever since they moved to the smaller shop closer to Quincy Center Station, I've not gone in.
Pandemonium is a wash, and the Hobby Bunker is gone AFAIK.

>>96376697
What I like the most about Goldshi is her cute little hat ;__;

>>96377209
Wow yoyr taste is ass

>>96376943
>SoT
Sons of Thorus
>>96376932
>The Spoiler
Agreeable and encouraged

>>96377297
Incusion at Xana II

>>96377034
it annoyed one poster so another poster made it his bit to edit troll honse into the OP image

>>96377198
>somehow making saturnine even worse

>>96377209
Sicarans are cool, I wish we had grav rapiers for ligma so I could kitbash one of these for my destroyer company.

>>96377424
I'm just that good

>>96377297
The destruction of Bodt.

>>96377390
Based

>>96377297
Battle for beta garmon

>>96377473
Wow your opinion sucks

Is newrecute updated yet

>>96377297
Isstvan III

>>96377233
For an army that deploys via oribit the mastodon has always been a fucking retarded joke.

>>96377297
Soo far, the Destruction of Bodt.
Autek Mor literally dropped the moon on on the World Eaters.
Imo also Battle of Dwell cuz it's Pittle Horus dueling Bion Henricos

>>96377501
It makes sense if your army is like Iron Hands, but other armies like Blood Angels? Nahhh

>>96377515
I mean as in using the vehicle.
I feel like BA wouldn't use it.

>>96377523
Booo-ring

>>96377465
Originally I made picrel to troll an IRL friend who plays 40k and hates uma. He was complaining offhand about it. Posted it in hhg too and one Anon had a meltdown so I've been shopping obvious and less obvious honse into almost a dozen OPs since because no one else is baking.

I don't even play the game I just knew IRL Gold Ship lore

>>96377198
why is he naked? give him back his shoulder pads

>>96377297
>Aura
Rogal Dorn & Sigismund on the Saturnine wall.

>>96377494
People need to start writing army lists on their own again, the illiteracy rates in the HH community is already outrageous. Apps doing tasks for people only make them lazy, both mentally and physically.

>>96377583
Average Alpha legionary behaviour.

>>96376934
its called the Thunderer and its in the legacies document

working on the twins

>10 jump pack reavers is 300pts without upgrades
jesus christ!

>>96377463
Bodt was an act of self defense

>>96377583
Now this is the kind of trolling I can respect.

>>96377637
I don't know why but for some reason seeing this the first thing that popped into my head was "yeah I bet you are those little whores". Apparently I just has a mental bias for thinking phobos land raiders are slatterns I guess

>>96377663
please stop objectifying my land raiders

>>96377667
NTA but I hought something similar

>>96377663
>>96377671
>mechanicoomers in the thread

Please do not the land raiders

>>96377687
Well maybe you stop painting them look like such sluts

>>96377702
how does one paint a vehicle to look like a wench?

>>96377718
With paint.

>>96376877
drop the shitty shield and I agree

I can't tell if the discussion of slut shaming night lords vehicles is better or worse than the discussion of raping night lords players

more progress on that reaver test i'm doing

thoughts on it?
I need to re-do his plasma coils, I cant seem to get them right

>>96377735
and face closeup
I also need to drill the barrel

>>96377735
My first thought is looks too green for a reaver

>>96377605
That's why I've been making mine in Google Sheets while looking at the book over and over.

>>96377746
we can go greener

>>96377733
why the fuck were you talking about raping us

>>96377739
did you print that head yourself, or is that forgeworld?

>>96377811
FW, from the traitor overseer

just how poorly written are the 3.0 rules? are there are any paragraphs that end up as word salad?
gonna finally have the time to relax and read everything tomorrow.

>>96377825
my absolutely retarded take is that it's good the rules are word salads because the people who care to actually read until they understand will stand out easily from the mongoloids who don't want to put in any effort

>>96377209
>shooting the front is either popping a tread, shooting the driver's position, or shooting the bow gun and lighting off its ammo

I made a supplement/FAQ for 2.5 for my local group. It's just for funsies and the core rule changes only take up a paragraph at the beginning of the doc.

If anybody wants to blow a few minutes and tell me what I fucked up or what looks cool, it would be appreciated.

https://gofile.io/d/uMkuRV

Am I understanding the 3.0 Cognis-Signum correctly in that the benefits fall off after one activation has been resolved against the target?

>ironkin steeljacks
That's a funny way of saying myrmidon destructors with volkite culverins

So what do you think Imperialis Militia will be about in 3.0 aside from fielding even more models than Auxilia?

>>96377911
I hope they bring back orders, but I doubt they'll do anything that interesting

>>96377718
Something like this >>96377637

>>96377735
The green looks fine, khorne symbol on the axe aside this works for late heresy reavers, I'd paint the cloth reddish brown like the JUSTaerin personally but you do you.

>>96377756
We wuz Slamanders

>>96377842
if it turns out to be an annoying type of word salad, i'm going to come back here and call you mean names

>>96377264
Cursed image

>>96377880
>Steeljacks
Sounds like Basedjak

>>96376513 (OP)
TQ
Fellblade
I always wanted a C&C Apocalypse tank. Was gonna get a recast but I might just wait for the plastic, if it ain’t too outrageously priced
>>96376572

Love the hazard warning next to the sponsons, what is it from? A historical??
>>96376683

Bold move making your base as the streets of Delhi, but it’s a good miniature so who am I to judge? Heh

I think pistols are Zzz. More a fashion choice than anything else

>>96377990
Why curse?

>>96378003
This anon got bad touched by rad grenades

>>96378003
Flame pistols are goood, wooooossssh

>>96378031
don't DG get custom dick cheese pistols?

>>96378043
chem flame but it ain't cheese

Alpharius recast is missing the rear arm pteruges and the little ear piece.
It's fucking joever

>>96378053
chop off his hands, and you can just say it's part his duel with Dorn

>Single Lightning claw is an objectively superior version of a power sword
>Costs the same
>Can be taken by the same models
uhhhh

>>96377992
>Love the hazard warning next to the sponsons, what is it from? A historical??
Thanks, its actually fake gothic text from 3rd party shop. I ordered it years ago.

Who was the premier air-to-air warfare Legion during the heresy?

>>96378256
Raven Guard most likely. I'm sure EC had some autismos who made it their life's mission to excel at dogfighting though

>>96378162
that small head lmao

>>96378288
RG have small brains, it doesn't need to be big

>>96378288
Terminator armor doesn't make your skull bigger

5 or 10 man squads for Autocannons?

>>96378308
MSU will usually be better unless you're short on slots or want to capitalize on unit buffs

>>96378162
I honestly believe power swords could use an A+1 attack modifier. Outside Salamander Forge crafted weapons and paired weapons, it would be one of the only positive attack modifiers. That could be swords' niche

>>96378314
Thanks, that makes sense.
My list now has 5 autocannon guys, 5 missile launcher guys and 5 heavy bolter guys.
I like the Tactical Support detachment, but I wish it had at least 1 prime slot in it.

>>96378360
primes seem intentionally limited outside of legion-specific detachments. That said, what would you even put on a HSS? If you're just running logistical benefit you can take it from somewhere else

>>96378360
That's a lot of HSS. Maybe HSS Vets lol

>>96378256
>>96378267
RG, then the DA team killed bunch of RG fighters /after/ they saved the DA.

>>96376513 (OP)
Jew-W has a Deimos Rhino at 63$ and out of stock
Fuck that, Anons what are some recasters that can get it cheaper

>>96378369
Elite slots are so hard to get...

>>96378299
The nubeaky heads are too small, they cant fit a head realistically.

>human knowledge is always disintegrating
>you literally cannot save it all
>existential dread is suddenly washing over me

>>96378394
We're at the point where it's cheaper to buy a whole 3d printer, resin supply, and .stl's to print an army than it is to buy an army from GW.

>>96378400
You 100% need Praetor/Delegatus tax. You know, like we did in 2.0. Every list had a MotL, always

>>96378405
Stop being tied down by dogmatic limitations. Aigis is pretty much a daemon engine already

>>96378414
Oh, I know.
I'm an IW guy so I've been trying to make the best of the Hammer of Olympia, but I'm not sure if it's actually worth it?

>>96378419
that's some tech heresy if i ever heard any. and i will not, you foul being

>>96378413
I didnt want to have to bite the bullet of buying a printer and dealing with everything.
Any good STL makers then.

I'm gonna attempt to paint Thousand Sons tarantulas.
Tomorrow.

>>96378008
>only the mk3 plates are white, you can see gray mk2 underneath
>the inner and lower rims of the pauldrons are white so the pads are molded to look like they're riveted

>>96378499
would Tarantulas even be in legion colors?

>>96378503
I guess?

>>96378405
One cannot save all. Share what you want with the ones you love. That is within your reach.

>>96378437
It is a good apex. I'd say Tyrants, Shrapnel bolters and the Prime advantages are what is bad, but the rest (however much it actually is) is okay.

>>96378528
Yeah, I guess I'm just trying to figure what to actually run in it.
Right now I have 1x Tac squad, 1x 5 man Claw Cataphractii, 1x dual plasma bombard Saturnine, and a Land Raider Carrier.
The Saturnine are there because I actually think they look kinda cool.

>>96378405
At least 90% of human written word IRL so far has already been lost to time and is unrecoverable.

>>96376683
hee hee poop base

do you think Li will get updated legion rules and maybe black shield rules as well in the new book?

>>96377441
Giant volkite sicarian would be cooler

>>96378550
Nope.
But on the other hand I had a dream about LIgma Horus ascended getting a model so that's always bad.

>>96378089
Tamiya clear smoke and clear green

>>96378308
>>96378360
Smal squad is very vulnerable

>>96378533
I'm thinking a three-pronged attack of one land raider with terminator each, being followed by a Tactical squad in a Rhino, supported by a couple artilleries. Arquitors, I think?
Anyways the plan is to fight in TTS and such (0 commitment), win or lose, and see what needs to change. No better way to make a list than playing with it and see how it does

>>96378594
Oh damn, thank you

>>96378604
Oh, I see what you're saying, Warsmith + Delegatus to get two Hammers, run each of them like so:

1x Tac Squad - Logistical Benefit
1x Terminator Squad of your Choice - Master Sergeant or Combat Veterans?
1x Land Raider Carrier
1x Rhino (LB)

Is that right?

>>96378366
Don't know about that anon, but master sergeant to give him a terranic greatsword.

Terminator Centurion done. What are y'all working on?

>>96378639
Spiders

>>96377924
>I hope they bring back orders, but I doubt they'll do anything that interesting
That would be really cool. Honestly, everyone should have access to orders in some form or another

>>96378536
and it's only gonna get worse
not to mention hallucinated ai slop has already outproduced genuine humans by an ungodly amount of magnitudes. future historians are gonna call our era a dark age because they wont know what the fuck was going on

>>96378631
Well, I was thinking two regular terminators, which are unlocked with a single Hammer, then use a Logistical for an Elite termie unit. Send the regular terminators to bully regular infantry, and have the Elite termies for whatever.
But your plan is also valid

>>96378693
Think about how much garbage, especially AI generated garbage, will be left over in 1000 years while things of value have been forgotten.

>>96378703
i have been, and i fucking hate it

>>96378697
Ohhh, I see what you're saying.
I might explore an idea like that too.
I'm not sure about my current list at the moment, maybe that idea would work better.

>>96378693
I've already seen people posting AI interviews with historical figure from WW2 and passing them off as real.

>>96378731
but is it like, obvious shitpost interviews, or people intentionally spreading misinformation? To what end?

>>96378731
How did you get access to my grandma's facebook?
She posts that shit all the time.
The ones she especially loves are the interviews with people in the time of Jesus.

>>96378731
i don't actually know of any plan for long term data preservation project other than whatever the fuck is underneath the vatican.
if civilization is actually collapsing in slow mo around us, the digital version of the burning library of alexandria is happening before our eyes

>>96378785
>i don't actually know of any plan for long term data preservation project other than whatever the fuck is underneath the vatican.
hey wait I've heard this one before

>>96378794
i haven't actually read that book. i just happen to know catholics have been openly hoarding shit for over 400 years, and most of it is secret to outsiders

sons of horus: are they based or bust?

>>96378256
WS>RG>DA(?)>Everyone else

>>96378833
unquestionably based

>>96378833
True Sons are based.
The rest are bust.

>>96378845
Don't you have a siege to be losing ashur

>>96378852
>implying

>>96378852
>Abaddon, right before leading his Justaerin into an ambush where they all drowned in Arkhan Land's hot sticky mechanicoom

40k space marines are better than 30k space marines. They spend decades as a scout learning how to fight, becoming familiar with all their wargear, then they usually go for vehicle training after getting their full panoply, then they spend yet more decades learning specialized warfare before becoming a tactical marine. Their armory became restricted so they had to learn how to fight without all the gizmos the legions had access to and without the numbers to throw at the enemy while still having to accomplish the same tasks. The codex astartes just made sure that on top of the hypnotic conditioning that the space marines got they were painstakingly trained and molded into proper warriors. By the end of the heresy, even discounting how much of it was flash trained inductii chaff, how much of the legions had not fought the xenos and had just learned to fight fellow space marines? Sure fighting space marines is tough enough but it's not the same as fighting the ork hordes or the freakish horrors that were never really destroyed.
Guilliman ensured that space marines would be true to the Emperor's vision instead of just being one-trick muscleheads that were only better equipped mooks than the mortal armies.

>>96378901
>lost their mass-battle skills
>lost 80% of their units and weapons
>think that some mk2 helmet is better than mk7+
>mind-raped as part of their initiation
"No."

>>96378775
>To what end?
Attention. Views.

>>96378778
This was on youtube, but I'm not surprised in the slightest that it's rife with boomerbook.

>>96378785
Get ready for a post-truth society.

>>96378901
>A "chapter" of a thousand dudes who fought a bunch of tiny small scale battles with only bolters/melta/flamers/ and maybe plasma is totally better then a legion of 100,000 space marines armed to the teeth with DAOT weapons who fought in endless battles against eachother and xeno's armed with DAOT level tech

>>96378960
we haven't seen the true consequences of the ai sloppageddon yet, so i guess you're right. i wanted to argue that how the world responded to the coof was proof we're already living post truth. however, the "hodl hyper war" over crypto and fictitious resources hasn't begun yet.

>>96378719
How do you feel about Vindicators and Arquitors? If you used an Iron fire detachment instead of a Storm Battery, you would get +1 Logistical, to put the HSS in.
You could also use the Logistical from Hammer to put the other HSS in, and the Assault marine could go in other detachment. Thus, you'd need one less detach

>>96379023
I think chapters have a better kill death ratio, but ultimately a Legion can simply do more stuff because it has more manpower and gear (they conquered the galaxy), while chapters are forced to specialize in shock assaults

Iron Hands cybernetics conversion ideas?

>>96379316
greenstuff tubes on foreskin leftovers

>>96379105
Yeah, you make a good point here, but I'm waiting until we get plastic Arquitors.
I don't mind working with resin for characters, but for vehicles? No thanks. Especially not at the cost of the kit.

>>96378901
Fuck off Guilliman

>>96379316
you don't

>>96379316
guitar wire, 3D printed bits, various havoc/devastator heads with extra lenses, admech bits

How many rapiers should you bring? Assuming they're the only anti-tank in your army. One maxed out squad? Two?

>>96379392
probably 3-4 teams if it's your only anti-tank
or just take zero and swarm the table with marines

Now that the dust has settled, are the 3.0 must-haves:
>a Master of The Legion
>Siege Breaker
>Master of Signals
>Augur Squad
>Phospex Rapiers
>1+ 20-man tac or despoiler squad
>2+ line squads each with a rhino that has havoc launchers
>veteran assault squad or jump pack command squad
???

>>96379397
That many? That's like two detachments and a third of youe points dedicated to rapiers

>>96379398
The 3.0 must-have is a group that wants to keep playing 2.0.

>>96378845
This

>>96379392
I think it's fine to bring up to 4 if you're not running all phoshpex.
4 lasers is ok. 4 grav is pretty useful in this rhino rush environment. 4 bolters is probably good if you're against solar aux a lot. 4 non-phosphex mortars might be fun.

How easy would it be to move over the Veteran assault squad and Veteran breacher squad 3.0 rules into 2.0?

>>96379398
>Augur Squad
Is the free reaction really that crucial?

>>96379411
There are up to 4 in a single slot.

>>96379398
The only must haves are what you find cool and fun to play and the tactical acumen to make that work on the table.

>>96379150
Also a Legion can have chapter tier units specializing of that or just some sections of their companies. Depends the Legion.

will LI get legion specific units in the future? sons of horus reavers would be cool.

Are Predators with the base weapon worth it? I'm thinking of getting two.

>>96379469

The base predator autocannon is perhaps a little lackluster, since the conversion beamer and grav are both extremely solid weaponry, but they are dirt cheap in their stock configuration. Probably nothing wrong with them, although I'd personally still try to grab replacement turret weapons.

I'm putting together some World Eaters allies for my Mechanicum and need a small retinue for my Prime Champion.

Do I take Praetorian Command, for the 2+ save and extra attack, Rampagers for Vanguard 3 or some other unit? If I do take the Praetorians, what do I equip them with? Combat shields, the standard, a few axes and a couple of fists seems natural, but I am still unfamiliar with Legion melee this edition.

>>96378550
this is the WS army I want in 3.0, but its dogshit and can't fucking score

>>96379051
I'm not too concerned since I've sort of accepted that if we collectively burn reality down, we deserve what we get, and ashes make great fertilizer.
I'm holding on to the hope that energy costs and the lack of anything of real value being created will cull a lot of AI generation on a corporate level because it just isn't economically feasible to make garbage that costs more money than it generates, but I could be wrong considering losing money hasn't stopped Disney from releasing garbage recently.

>>96378901
Guilliman is a traitor

>>96379438
no and not for that many points

>>96376513 (OP)
Is this a good list?

>10 man Legatine Command Section with Command Vox and Cohorts Vexilla = 220 pts
>Three 10 man Line Command Sections with Command Vox and Auxilia Vexilla = 125 pts
>Six 20 man Lasrifle Sections with Vox Interlock and Auxilia Vexilla = 100 pts
>Ten Dracosans with Dozen Blades and Demolisher Cannons = 180 pts

Comes out to 2995 pts and fits into the Crusade Detachment and three Infantry Tercios

>>96379762
>Is this a good list?
>Ten Dracosans with Dozen Blades and Demolisher Cannons
It makes me violently ill

>>96379762
if you're gonna min max like this you might as well put multi lasers on the dracosans

>>96379779
>Anon takes a fluffy and lore accurate SA detachment
>Reeee, minmaxing, reee
Do marinefags really?

>>96379762
Drop the additional men in the command sections. and use the points to give each Dracosan a Multilaser. The remaining 80 points can be spent on giving the command squad Dracosans Hunter-Killer Missiles and the squads themselves Augury Scanners.

>>96379791
bait used to be believable

>>96379805
Explain how it isn't a fluffy detachment retard

>>96378256
According to the black books IHs because they could interface with their planes in a much fuller way (they put their dicks in).

>>96378256
Also the IH have a xiphon that's been turned into a dreadnought.

>>96379398

You forgot the Kratos and a Spartan full of WS5 Terminators.

>>96379732

How much fucking better would it be if the WS trait was that all Cavalry could score? Don't get me wrong, Speed 9 Tart Termies are funny and all, but... I don't think they're entirely thematic.

>>96380031
Like at least it makes sense a little...
I had a kitbashed preator and squad on bike for WS but that's the most I built. Using the old WS upgrade bodies since they were in MK7 if memory serves.

>>96378031

Hand Flamers are only good when paired up with Rad Grenades on Destroyers. Alchem Casters on the other hand, those things are fucking terrifying.
Also, for some reason, Heavy Alchem Flamers have Assault and can be Sponson and Pintle Mounted. So your predators can just vomit out three Poisoned 3+ Flamer Templates when you're charged.

You don’t know the things I dream. No one does, no one ever cared enough to find out.

>>96380121
it's dicks isn't it.

>>96380121
What DO you dream about actually?

>do I jump on the attempt to revitalise LI with consolidated profiles and rules
>or do I just watch it burn

>>96380121
You're a gay little boy and you have gay little dreams.

>>96380133
Public infrastructure.

On the subject of five million dracosans, what are the most efficient methods to take apart a car-park of cheap vehicles, especially Barrage artillery, without just bringing your own Barrage and getting in a template duel?

Can't multicharge this edition, so you can't just swarm several of them down at once. A deep-striking squad can only shoot one on their first turn, and can shoot and assault a total of 2 on any subsequent turns. Mech might be kind of fucked here, since they have no flyers so they are basically limited to that.

Fire Raptor sortie, maybe? It's Stable, so you can put the rockets into one target, autocannons into a second and bolt cannon into whatever. It'll do for rear AV10, but they can just back that against the board edge, and Strength is somewhat lacking for side AV12.

>>96380210
Even tactical squads can wreck artillery real fast with 10 krak grenades into rear armour 10. It's just a matter of closing the distance mostly.

>>96380223

Shitty solar aux tanks don't really care about statuses, since they're barraging from stationary positions and not taking reactions anyway, so ten kraks only barely kills one of the things on average, but yeah, actually doing the damage in melee is not the issue, I'm wondering what units can point-efficiently get out there and remove a good number of artillery units without slogging across the entire board into six demolisher cannons and four basilisks first. Your average deep striking squad kills one tank, can't charge and then probably dies.

A Termite is quite points-efficient, it has its own melta-cutters so the cheapo combi squad inside can pop one target while it gambles on the small blast meltagun at 3" range.

>>96380254
Gonna have to mix things and use several smaller units in that case. One single unit destroying entire tank squadrons each phase just isn't a thing any more. But neither is one tank evaporating entire infantry squads with each blast it shoots, so it evens out.

>>96380330

The thing that makes that one a bit tricky is that there's the one-unit-limit on Deep Strike, so you do probably want to optimise for getting as many tank kills out of that one unit as possible, and there will be a great many tanks.

Marines have it easiest here, because they have a great many high-firepower flyers and easy access to cheapish anti-vehicle capabilities.
Solar Aux have their own artillery carpark but can't reach the enemy backfield with much besides their own artillery, Mech have Termies but nothing with any anti-vehicle capability to put in them and no flyers of their own. A Tech-priest with a cheap servo-bot retinue could melta one and threaten to punch more to death in subsequent turns, I guess, those things have S8 D2 claws and cost 10pts per two attacks.

When the FUCK is the new tank coming out?

>>96377108
Night Lords

Iron Hands
World Eaters

>>96380582
Preview tomorrow

>>96380650
Night Lords don't hate civilians, they fucking love them, where else would they source their quilt-making materials from?

/hhg/ The Horse Is Here

>>96380791
the dream of all Night Lords is to open a bed and breakfast in Vermont with each other

>>96380848
stop trying to force this unfunny and cringe shit

>>96380848
keep trying to force this unfunny and cringe shit

>>96378162
What is the claw bit?

IMO Curze’s story arc would have been more powerful if he was killed by the remaining Night Lords instead.

>>96380880
Looks like Abaddon's Talon.

>>96380890
A clown in life, a clown in death.

>>96380906
Clown in the streets
Slut in the sheets

>>96380254
>>96380223
a WS4 Tactical (or WS3 Aux, for that matter) striking AV10 with its one krak Detonation is ~1/7 to Glance and ~1/4 to Penetrate

10 such attacks will likely inflict 4HP and 1 status on the target, but it's only ~1/63 to inflict 6HP via 3 Pens, destroying most AV10 havers outright, and even though it's much less likely that you get the Glances in that number, more than 3 means you start inflicting additional HP, so anything that inflicts a Status prior to that melee is worth doing

What’s the northern New Jersey scene look like for Heresy?

>>96380931
My tactical sergeants have had a combi-melta since 1.0 so that's how they usually get the extra damage in before finishing the job with krak grenades.

>>96380890
>powerful
you talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded

>Shooting 20 banestrike shotgun shots into a tactical squad
>One wound, one breaching hit
Sometimes the dice can make you wonder what you did in a previous life that they are punishing you so.

>>96380036
idk what an alchem caster is, I only play 2.0

>>96380848
Is there a mod that allows you to manage each of the primarchs in their horsegirl racing career?

>>96380945
You go to Rogue State if you want 3.0 and Time Warp if you want 2.0. Everywhere else is inconsistent or sucks

>>96381087
it's not finished btw

>>96379699
Oh, I can see the appeal of the Grav cannon.
Two of these could be pretty ace.

>>96380945
They're more into 40k

>>96381232
>Pinning (2)
So, that's what one needs to use before a vanguard unit to clean an objective, right?

>>96381248
Yeah, I think you want to blast that onto the objective you're planning to charge with your Vanguard for sure.

>>96381239
They're more into the Halo: Ground Command and Halo Fleet Battles revival scene.

>>96381232
My graviton cannon rapiers have become the first unit my opponents shoot at :(

>>96381248
Problem is that they already move reacted off the point before they got shot by pinning. Your vanguard unit had to land within 12" to charge and triggered it.

>>96381283
Okay, I baited out one of their three reactions, that's still a gain for me.

>>96381298
I'm slowly getting the impression that the movement reaction is actually the best one in 3.0, even more so than react fire. The reposition in any direction, even allowing units to embark upon a transport, has a huge impact. Even more so with LOS being more restrictive.

Which is the happiest legion :)

>>96381335
Iron Warriors.

>>96381335
Word Bearers.

>>96381269
>They're more into the Halo: Ground Command and Halo Fleet Battles revival scene.
The What?!

>>96381350

Potentially both the best and worst things that Spartan Games ever did. Both one of the best looking and playing games they ever did, and also the petard that finally did for them.

And whilst perhaps none of us are surprised that Spartan Games and their expensive habit of making new game system after new game system and telling fans of their core audience to fuck off eventually died. It is a shame that Wayland Games bought them.

>>96381335
Unironically, Alpha Legion.
They may not joke or be cheerful. But they're not brooding or bitter or sad, or bipolar like all other legions.
They just smirk a bit from time to time with safisfaction about being the only ones who get the joke.

>>96381350
You're confused about the revival, or the games to begin with?

>>96381257

So... how do you stop said unit from just using a reaction to move off the point when you step your Vanguard up into charge range in the movement phase?

>>96381370

Generally Night Lords don't get the joke... but Conrad did and he read the script which said he was about to spend several hundred years enacting The Aristrocrats Joke, and fully embraced the bit.

>>96381375
>>96381365
the revival. I've seen 3d printed models on ebay aplenty but I didn't think anyone would ever try to actually use them.

>>96381390

Yeah because Etsy was awash with them before they started cracking down on them.
There is a decently errata'd pdf of the rulebook along with a tonne of rebalanced stat cards and suchlike out there as well.

>>96380254
>without slogging across the entire board
Assault squads?

>>96381395
>Etsy purging warhammer bits
>Shapeways dead
Where do we buy 3d printed stuff now? I don't want to buy a printer myself.

>>96381432
>buy
There's your problem.

>>96376513 (OP)
Hi brothers, I wanted to give HH a shot and maybe arrange a test game with some friends. I've played a few different wargames, but never this particular one before.
I've heard there's some hatred towards the newest (3rd?) edition - how well warranted is it? Is it better to stick to one of the previous editions for now, considering that I don't particularly care for the playing The Newest Thing?

Also, any noob advice for preparing for and playing the first battle, easily forgotten/misunderstood rules, things to keep in mind etc.?

Legitimate question: do any of the Horus Heresy books contain any risque sexual situations? The setting seems to be fairly sanitized from the typical trappings of fantasy and science fiction, which is making the female characters arbitrarily sexual for no real reason.

Expanding on this, since the Emperor's Children went deep into depravity real fast, are there any mentions whatsoever of cultists or slaves being taken by them and used for anything but to be turned into drugs? Or is all of this kind of "safe horny" (mention, don't show) stuff primarily a 40K thing?

Pic related, how I imagine the average Civilized World Slaanesh Cultist to act once their space daddies come a-knocking.

>>96381491
Fulgrim gets a pair of anguish shoved up his ass if that counts
but no, sexuality and eroticism is forbidden in the black library

>>96381491
>do any of the Horus Heresy books contain any risque sexual situations?
There is a tiny bit in Fulgrim and Vengeful Spirit.

>>96381491
I mean, yes, there is obviously plenty of sexual stuff involved when it comes to Slaanesh cults, but Slaanesh's sphere of influence is much more than just hehe sex and fixating on that kinda outs you as a coomer/teenager/somebody who knows the setting mostly from memes
>do any of the Horus Heresy books contain any risque sexual situations?
It's a series revolving around autistic supersoldiers whose sex drive got pretty much surgically removed, so no, there's not much of that, but there's some - Fulgrim (the novel) comes to mind, with the opera singer character beying quite openly sexually promiscuous and the opera scene turning into pretty much an orgy. And then a murder orgy when the marines can't handle or understand the rush of emotions and arousal they feel, so they unload them in the only way the know

>>96381333
Sure is, every game I haven't let my opponent score vanguard. Creates a huge points deficit if they dont have troops following up.

>>96381565
Actually pushing the "Slaanesh isn't about sexytime, chud!" line outs *you* as a bootlicking newfag who's bought into GW's revisionist Safenesh fluff. Slaanesh absolutely did used to be about fucking, torture, and torturefucking with all other "aspects" of its nature being extremely distant secondary characteristics, in the exact same way that *technically* Khorne was a god of honourable warfare or whatever but in reality 99.99999999999999% of the time is about blood and skulls and blood-covered skulls.

>>96381449
Most of the hatred is typical internet hyperbole. The newest edition isn't without flaws of course, but older editions had much larger outliers when it comes to unit balance. The 1st edition of HH had insanely good artillery, and in the 2nd dreadnoughts were so oppressive that the entire game revolved around them, to give some quick examples.
If you're gonna do test games anyway, you could try each edition and see which one you like most.

>>96381370
>AL are not bipolar
Bro they're literally hypno-conditioned to be whatever polar the mission needs them to be. Rip Ingo Pech and Mattias Herzog. They were activated on opposite directives, and so went against one another :(
That is what a space marine should be. Mission focussed and remorseless. It is a pity (and waste) the Legion fought itself

>>96381653
that's not being "bipolar", anon. AL doesn't have big mood swings that turn happy agreeable legionaries into hysterical psychos.
A change in mental programming doesn't make them more or less happy.

>>96381491
Euphrati Keeler has off-screen casual sex in False Gods and in the Emperor's Gift, Inquisitor Jarlsdottyr exposes herself to a Grey Knight in order to elicit a reaction and is disappointed when it doesn't. There are undoubtedly a few other examples but those are the ones that spring most easily to mind.

It's media for twelve-year-old boys, most of it is extremely safe and largely sexless.

>>96381684
By that metric, World Eaters aren't bipolar either. Single pole: killing.

>>96381717
>It's media for twelve-year-old boys
It's so infuriating that our toy figurine setting is for children. When will they acknowledge their grown-up fanbase? :^)

My Alpha Legion continues predictably.

>>96381752

Better look at my Siege Breaker, which may do me no favours.

>>96381627
Yeah, Slaanesh is about torturing anyone and getting off to it.
Khorne is about realizing honor means jackshit, so kill them all.

>>96381761
The handle of that hammer looks real rough

>>96381806

Yeah... problem is, without it, it looks way too stubby to be a proper thunderhammer.

>>96381809
Thunder mallet

>>96381825

Eh. I'll take it off and try again in a bit.

>>96381752
>That guy over there roped me into this!
>Well that guy over there roped me into this!
>What? no, you roped ME into it!

>>96381852

>In the distance, the Saboteur giggles.

>>96381850
Im just messing with you, Anon. Guess you can, if you want to

>>96381732
I'm not sure who you're taking the piss out of. I literally said it's a game for children. Am I supposed to be ashamed of that?

>>96381564
No one's gonna mention that False Gods has Erebus and Davinites have a cultist fuck a pig as part of the ritual to hack Horus?
lol

>>96381232

A squad of them on rapiers have the advantage of being able to fire Shock (Pinned) at the enemy armour in its DZ before it can roll out and squish you, but they're still pretty great on predators, just less reliable in that role since you have fewer chances at that 5+.

>>96381397

Still get you blasted by Pinning (Yes) templates, you really need to be off the board until you can do work here. The Arquitor gravguns especially are nuts in that department.

>>96376513 (OP)
As a beginner collecting Death Guard what point force should I be looking to collect to play games?

>>96381335
Space Wolves. If they didn't enjoy fucking up so much, they wouldn't do it so often.

>>96381965
The standard game is 3000pts, so try 1000-1500. 3.0 doesn't have rules for Zone Mortalis yet.

>>96381902
>Davinites have a cultist fuck a pig as part of the ritual to hack Horus

Oh shit David Cameron is a davinite?

>>96381370
Old fluff had the Alpha Legion have seething Napoleon complexes. Which is why they made such elaborate and confusing plans to style on the other legions.

>>96381717
The female protag artist in Fulgrim starts also fucking random people after she gets infected with slaanesh

>>96382087
Well I hope that was just misinformed imperial scholars

>>96382100
It's better reasoning for them to turn traitors than what Legion presented.

>>96382087
They still do. Dorn literally tells Alpharius off for this show-offish behavior.
Some Primarchs tend to cricitize their excessive theatrics

>>96378299
Still summer huh

>>96381809
No, stubby THs look great

anyone got pdfs of the Legions Imperialis supplements up to now?

>>96382248
This. There are examples of shorter thunder hammers. They're not all two-handed.

Weekend game to learn the rules of 3rd ed. Liked it more than 2nd. Volley fire and challenges are FUN.
I a bit perplexed about the vehicle damage though, would rather score a glancing hits to shake up a vehicle instead of getting a pen and just plonking away a hull point that doesn't really matter.

>>96382367
Yeah it's weird how armorbane feels like a negative now

>>96381761
is that a fantasy dwarf hammer? the end of the shaft is off the other btw

How do you justify THs on the "dex" legions like EC, RG, AL, WS, etc?
>Inb4 Eidolon/Dynat
Eidolon has his special queerhammer that strikes at inititative and Dynat whacks you in the balls when you aren't looking

>>96382436
A thunder hammer is an assassin's weapon

>>96382436
RG jump captains are known to use THs. Sudden overwhelming force is part of their MO. Its not all cloak and daggers.

>>96382436
I bolter spam until the problem goes away

>>96381717
Was it not implied the rememberancers in A Thousand Sons were holding hands?

>>96382436
Your dude just enjoys hitting people with a thunder hammer. Simple as that.

How's my Knight freehand /hhg/?

>>96382535
Are these vtubers?

>>96382535
I'm disappoint they aren't umas

>>96382584
Anon that's Nice Nature on the right.

The moment I see someone place a primarch on the table, I mentally check out. I fucking hate Primarchs.

>>96382642
Okay Valdor

>>96382657
Fuck custodes too. All capeshit needs to be removed from HH and 40k

Last of the bits for my Vet Breachers arrived today. This is the last unit for my IW to be worked on before I move on to SA.

Which primarchs should be excluded from battles for lore reasons? For example, Ferrus, Vulkan and Corax don't really show up outside of Istvaan right?

>>96382700
They shouldn't be allowed at all. Fuck capeshit

>>96382642
I also hate primarchs anon, no worries.

>>96382700
>Corax
He was all over the galaxy, including the Martian Civil war. He could be anywhere.

>>96382700
Corax did fight later in a bunch of battles. Like when he saved Russ and the SW at Yarant.

Magnus did not fight anyone between Prospero and he infitrating the Palace and the webway during the Siege.
Dorn did not get out of the Sol system during the war.
And ironically, Horus. Who pretty much sat in the Vengeful Spirit all the war except for Molech and Beta-Garmon

>>96382752
I thought he snuck aboard Angron's flagship till Terra or something like that

>>96382763
Which battle is depicted in the 2.0 trailer? Seems to be SoH vs IF on... Mars maybe?

>>96382436
I don't have to justify shit. All legions used all wargear and weapons.

>>96382765
Nope, he hid in the mountains of Isstvan V and later was rescued by a ship coming from Kiavahr loking for him
>>96382781
Who the fuck knows, because GW certaintly don't.
Horus taking the field, Titans, and IF all point to Beta-Garmon. It can't be any other battle AFAIK.

But it was used to sell the Siege of Cthonia. Which is nonsense, because Horus never went there in neither the HH campaing or the BL book.

>>96382713
>capeshit
Literally a buzzword at this point

>>96382763
So shouldn't there be a rule for these primarchs to not be able to face off against forces they never fought against in the heresy?

>>96382856
Could always play it as "this was a disagreement between primarchs during the great crusade". Like yeha, Dorn probably never fought Ferrus, but maybe during the GC they were in the same system and couldn't decide on the legality of pineapple on pizza so they caused a massive teamkilling conflict, as Primarchs tend to do

>>96382856
No. People should be allowed to play what if scenarios, at least to a certain extend. Let people have some fun.

>>96382856
No, at best that should be for Narrative battles imo

>>96382833
It was Valerius, he was the guy that convinced Branne to go to Istvaan V.

>>96382856
Why? Part of being a pseudo historical game is to play alt-history scenarios.

What if Saul Tarvitz, Rylanor, and EC loyalists survived Issvant III and fought more battles? Stuff like that.

>>96382889
what if Rylanor had good rules?

I fucking hate this resin fire raptor, but it was £30 and in the new rules is nothing but a glorified token so womp womp.

Predator kit in plastic is sexy and I love it.

>>96382914
>Can't tell if RG or IH
>Big "Imperial fists" sign on monitor
Either way, Raptor looks cool anon. Some fuckery going on around the turret but I'm guessing that's due to the (chinacast?) resin. What are you doing with the canopy?

Rolled a whole bunch of unique character vs unique character whiteroom duels to get myself used to the challenge system and was pleasantly surprised by how fun it was. The focus balance changing as people take wounds means there's actually a reason to use gambits other than Finishing Blow, even if "who gets FB" is still a strong determinant of early advantage.

Honourable mention to Raldoron, who did really well considering he has no EW and costs two-thirds of either Abbadon or Sigismund, and best in show to the Mechanicum Arcuitor Magisterium. 155pts for thunder hammer, cyber-familiar and Overcharged Reactors, plus the prime HQ slot for WS7 A6 and they're basically a coinflip against Sigismund's crit spam and win more often than not against Abby. They'll carve anything weaker than that into salami, since WS8 with Guide means they can charge, grab Finishing Blow and split skulls with a 3 damage hammer, then start boosting themselves up to A8 even if they lose Focus. If they don't charge they can still use POTMS to keep their weapon skill higher than their opponent, and they get to change their cybertheurgy buff up to the most useful one for the opponent, so if they're fighting a WS6 opponent they can swap to Fortify or Quicken depending on whether S9 or T6 is actually useful.

If Mech had a better way to deliver the Arcuitor into combat than either sticking them in a Triaros or infiltrating a unit of 3 for a ridiculous price, I'd say they're the most efficient duelists in the game. As is I'm still considering Arcuitor + 12 Echidnax as a backline patrol unit, they'll go even or better with Abby + 5 hammer Justaerin if they get to charge them.

>>96382856
the fun of this game since 1992 has been showing up with the same special characters on opposite sides

>>96382920
Canopy will be a solid colour, CBF to paint a cockpit.

Yeah its shit china but idc not paying 100+ for a FW one that will be just as warped.

Its RG, but not yet finished. Need transfers.

Got this Praetor converted too.

>>96382763
Horus was there during the battle for Port Maw too, he had to jump out the VS with his Justaerin because standard SoH boarding parties were getting memed on by hundreds of Ogryn Charonites.

Helmets on or helmets off to be painted separately on Solar Auxilia? Think I might try and do something like the Cthonian Headhunters with a different helmet colour.

which legion's playerbase is faggier, TS or NL?

>>96383041
EC

>>96382974
Fuckin' sweet. How does he feel about dad hating his guts?

>>96383041
DA

winner tops should be part of the official rules

>>96383084
it isn't?

>>96383067
He will ride with the deliverers, in their shared shame they will find vengeance through VANGUARD 4 in their storm eagle taxi.

>>96383041
people who use primaris as proxies.

>>96383041
IW

>>96382920
IH don't have white in their 30k scheme.

>>96383128
Don't they have a more oily black color, too?

>>96383197
Yes

>>96383041
Another poster consumed with jealousy

>>96382979
Wait that actually happened or is this a case of "Abaddon whooped someone's ass but the agenda must be maintaned" again?

>>96383041
Dork angels, followed by NL. Thramas was basically the galaxy's biggest queer catfight.

>>96383041
>>96380852

>>96383243
HH Book 4, page 50 to 52. During the battle of Port Maw the "Triumph of Reason" was a flagship used to organise a counter attack against traitor forces in the aftermath of a devastating cyber attack.

The sons of Horus board the ship and meme on the mortal crew but then get stonewalled by the Legate Marshal unleashing hundreds of Charonites held in stasis.

For a moment it seems like the ogryn could repel the boarders, then Horus teleports in with the second wave and they slaughter everyone.

>>96383367
>SoH literally went from "It's so Ogre" to "We're so back

Which Legion would waggle their Willies with Kaiser Wilhelm?

>>96383367
>Rechecks it
>Actually happens
Holy shit, it is real

>>96383393
world eaters LK

>>96382687

Where'd you source the Lascutter from?

>>96382866

Hawaiian Pizza was a false flag operation by Canada.

>>96383367
Port Maw is also interesting for being one of the few times we see battles against xenos.
The Solar Auxilia was fighting a space hulk full of orks just before the Death Guard arrived.

>>96381333
it was this way in 2.0 ZM

>>96383444
It was real cool to see Port Maw in 30k too since as a naval base it ends up the headquarters of battlefleet gothic during the gothic war.

>>96383455
2.0 ZM did have the better reactions

>>96383387
They just didn't want their dad to see them get their shit pushed in my a horde of rampaging lobotomites, understandable really.

>>96382914
holy mother of warp

>>96382914
I really want to build a marine airborne army but I refuse to buy any Resin vehicles. Assembly must be a nightmare.

>>96383444
>Designated Red Polyphemus
Some dude looked at this space hulk and decided it looked like Magnus, didn't he?

>>96383041
SW have the whiniest player base, by far, followed by IW

anons I need help for a joke gift- I need the thickest, nastiest, female guilliman anime pic you have (it will become part of a care package I'm sending a friend)

>>96382596
So is the left one.

>>96383459
Aww I have only heard about that. So what did I have to read before beginning the HH1 Betrayal and series? I mean it's like playing MGSV without first hearing about Metal Gear 1

I can't believe the Ultramarines have 0% of the wolf or lion themes the actual Romans had

>>96383742
They didn't want to get associated with the two most degenerate legions, namely DA (homos) and SW (furries)

>>96383367
A few times across the series, Ogryn-class soldiers are mentioned to be one of the only troops might enough to face Astartes directly. In HH3, during the sole AL + UM joint campaign, the Alpha Legion took specific contingencies to delay, surround and exterminate the hive city's Ogryn soldiery

>>96383742
SoH are the proper "wolf roman" legion. UM are the "senate bureocrats" legion, and EC are the pederast legion. All aspects of the Roman Empire

>>96383742
It appears you cannot deal with the superiority of the Sons of Guilliman. Perhaps you should kill yourself?

>>96383844
deploy the homoerotic ultramarine tango pic

>>96383829
We are mog Greek but sure.
We gonna have lots of gold skulls

>>96383829
Bro not every legion is Roman. What about Salamanders?
>Nubians, Greek fire
Fuck

>>96383921
>I said mog instead of more
Fuck my life

>>96383801
Yeah Ogryn are no joke, they're dumb as bricks but they're build like bricks too.

>>96383942
>>96383921
We greekmogging, boys

>>96383921
>>96383934
IW, IH, AL are greek. SW are the barbarian tribes WS are Mongolian. IF and DA are Templars/Teutonic knights.

>>96383911
Deploying

>>96384000
Good work legionnaire. Keep this performance up and you might make Optae soon

>>96383558
Yeah, Also the fact in 3.0 they stay on the table for like the shooting phase of maybe 2 turns in the whole game makes them woefully shit.

Fliers are dope models tho.

>>96384000
This only proves that the Ultramarines are the greatest of them all

new edgar model?

Edgar's mecha/walker dude.
Look at what GW took away from you, SA chuds.

>>96384015
Is that a child piloting it?

>>96384015
My group has already talked about potentially house ruling old hover back in for the non jet fighters.

>>96384162
I've never stopped seething about this. I'm glad he's doing better now thst he's free but I wish GW wasn't as shit as it is.

>>96384148
>>96384162
I don't get the supposed hype for this mini, it looks stupid. It doesn't really fit the SA aesthetics.
Also, buy an ad, Ed

>>96384148
>>96384162
I do not understand this man's obsession with masade

>>96384261
>get to create basically the marneus calgar or abbadon of SA if you will
>GW decides no
i'd be pissed too

Best legion if I'm shit at painting?

>>96384015
Would it be too broken for fliers to be able to come in every turn consistently?

>>96384015
Fliers have advantages too. Being able to zoom in from any map corner and nail a tanks rear armour is one of them.

Sure they're not great against AV14 bricks but said bricks are horrible at fighting them too so both fliers and LRs can ignore one another.

>>96384307
Iron Warriors, Iron Hands and Alpha Legion come to mind.

>>96384162
I don't get why GW designers like their baby carriers so much, but I really don't think adding a toy horse helps offset the silliness

>>96384290
at some point he needs to let go, he has such a giant chip on his shoulder about it
especially when it comes to how bizarrely protective he is about the model

>>96384307
Rapemarines, perhaps.

>>96384369
Drop pod to your nearest fresh thread
>>96384369

>>96384343
Ireton MaSade has been the sole Named mortal commander in the game since book 4 up until 3.0, as you can now bring meme lady Ship mistress Lotara Sarrin.
MaSade is a cool character (and FW did nothing with him)

>>96384338
I'm more tolerant of the SA getting a junker like this than the legiones astartes at least, especially since its so small. Its basically just a mobility suit for an old man.

That said if the SA were to get special characters I'd prefer a Diarama piece like the triumph of saint Katherine.

>>96384338
>I really don't think adding a toy horse helps offset the silliness
When you're high-born and senile, you get to make whatever design choices you like. Real historical people had all sorts of weird shit. Going into battle in a mech suit with a decorative little horse and saddle is not that weird.

>>96384382
are the SoS not mortal?

>>96384307
DG
>prime white
>paint joints a steel color
>green or gold should trim
>red eyes
>transfers
>lots of shade paint to make 'em look icky

>>96384408
They are weird bro

>>96384236
what happened with Ed and GW/FW anyway

>>96384162
If that thing got released by GW everyone would laugh at it and say James has lost his mind.

>>96384015

Could you just use their Aeronatica models instead if they're basically just tokens, or is the base size actually important?

>>96382507
>ashamed
I honestly don't remember, that's where I burned out on the novels the first time reading through. Last time I tried I made it as far as Vulkan Lives, but I retain very little from most of the series.

>>96384406
You people need to learn that just because something has a weird historical basis doesn't mean it doesn't look like shit

>>96384162
I like this one a lot less than the first tbdesu

>>96384162
Mini-dreadknight. Have the same opinion as it:
No, I don't want that.

>>96382507
You mean the girls? Then yeah. Not the forst time McNeill sneaked a romance, he did it in Legend of Sigmar with the Count of the Jutones and the Endals Princess.

My report from event to day.
Dark angels legion trait? Never really comes up, kinda worthless, they kinda feel like a naked legion

Inner Circle Knights, no longer a unit you wanna be aggressive with, makes a great unit to hold back in a LR, blasting things until something gets within your threat range to drive out, dump them out and get within 1" to make the garunteed charge

Breachers with las cutters again, pulling their fucking weight, able to just rush them up, jump outta a rhino, blast 2 las cutters then charge and do 2 more hits on them is a crazy way to pop vehicles fast.

Jet bike retinues are great, 3 wounds a pop makes them a damned if you do damned if you dont target.

Siege terminators again, doing gods work and being a complete fucking menace to MEQs

Cata terminators? If they are on foot can just fucking ignore them.

>>96384979
What about the ruins are talking stormwing?

>>96385106
I mean its a easy way to get combat vets which is nice i guess

>>96384979
Who did you play against? What worked/didn't for them? Tell us more about siege tartaros performance

>>96384544
The base size is important yes.

>>96384979
>Cata terminators? If they are on foot can just fucking ignore them.

So funny that people are so hung up about this in the new edition, when this has always the case. Unless somebody lucked out insanely hard and rolled a double 6 units could just jog away in a brisk pace to avoid cataphractii on foot.

I just have my cataphractii command squad charge a unit on or near an objective, then let them stay on the objective. Good luck ignoring them when you need to capture the objective to keep up in points lol.