Thread 96377486

Ten of Swords edition

>"New" Apocalyptic Subclasses UA: https://media.dndbeyond.com/compendium-images/ua/apocalyptic-subclasses/KKvJvHGmsJiNaafX/UA2025-ApocalypticSubclasses.pdf

>2024 PHB Scan (No more fingers edition)
https://files.catbox.moe/g8oo9h.pdf

>Cropped and rotated, but more artifacty
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>2024 DMG
https://files.catbox.moe/fd04pq.pdf

>2024 Monster Manual
https://files.catbox.moe/atd38s.pdf (D&D beyond version)
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/1en5qwum.pdf (scan, use at your own risk)

>2024 Official free rules
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/free-rules
>2014 Official Free Rules
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/basic-rules-2014

>2024 UA
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/ua

>2014 Errata
https://dnd.wizards.com/dndstudioblog/sage-advice-book-updates

>5etools (2024)
http://5e.tools
>5etools (2014)
https://2014.5e.tools/

>Trove
The Trove Vault (seed, please!): mega(dot)nz/folder/uktzzTAI#KfV-EWdhd15FhHNn5HndHg

>Resources:
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Previous thread
>>96349673

>TQ
What the worst disaster of a session you've ever been in?

>level 2 lightning spell
>make an attack roll against a target for 2d8 lightning damage
>"you point at a target and a spark of lightning and a loud thunderous boom emanates"
>5-foot sphere from target, including the target, CON save take 2d6 thunder damage or half on a passed save
>increase lightning damage by 1d8 and thunder by 1d6 for each additional spell slot used

>vs ice knife, almost identical at level 2, but dual scaling makes it way more powerful afterwards
>vs lightning bolt, 2 less damage average, you can miss the first part of the attack entirely, but you can crit the first part, AoE is more likely to deafen a rogue trying to go for a sneak attack
>outdamages lightning bolt at level 5 onwards due to adding 2 dice for each level

For an icy character using Armor of Agathys, would a fiend warlock be viable? I figure they'd be in a pact with levistus. Now that any temp HP can keep AoA up with the new wording, having dark ones blessing could be a huge boon, getting back (warlock level)+(CHA mod) whenever an enemy dies within 10 ft of you. Could go pact of the Tome and put repelling blast onto frost bolt to really slow people down. Also, taking the 'Tomb of Levistus' invocation just seems like a really thematic build choice, and with it also using temp HP, would be a great move to use when you know the DM is about to slam you with some beefy, multi attack creature.

Alternatively, would it be better to dip warlock and just go the rest abjuration wizard, for wards and higher level spell slots to cast AoA with, and then polymorph to turn yourself into a giant Ape that pops people for 35 cold damage whenever they touch you? Or maybe a cleric or paladin dip for heavy armor and then heavy armor master feat, so it takes that many more hits to take out the AoA?

Warlock seems the most thematically interesting, but wizard seems to have way more mechanical toys to play with. What do?

>>96378034
I'm not sure which version you're referring to.
Tomb of Levistus is only in 2014, but using Invocations on cantrips besides Eldritch Blast is 2024.
Either way, Warlocks don't get Ray of Frost (nor Firebolt which is dumb af).

If you're more sold on the ice part, then Wizard or Sorcerer may be what you're looking for. I would look into Draconic Sorcery since you can boost cold damage spells and you can add DEX and CHA to your AC.

>>96378034
why are you saying the words "thematically interesting" while discussing dipping and weird rules lawyering opti shit?
nobody who cares about making a consistent character is thinking of dips and all that shit. Need a remind again that this is a baby game that you're playing for fun, not for money, and for which the dm adapts the difficulty on the fly?

>>96378034
Just reflavor fathomless as an ice warlock and the tentacle as a big snowball or something.

>>96377486 (OP)
It goes without saying the fighting styles are bland and boring.

I was thinking of adding an option to Archery which allowed the user to create specialty arrows. Obviously they wouldn't be recoverable after use but would it be too much to reduce their rang by half?

Can you not take spells and invocations from the 2014 PHB (and other books like Xanathar and Tasha) if youre using the 2024 warlock rules? I figured anything that wasn't reprinted was still available.

I know it's up to individual tables, but is there an official WotC ruling on this?

>>96377815
invent or change some weapon masteries or something

>>96378265
You probably can idk. I know its not officially on the 2024 list.

Regardless, I still think a frost Draconic Sorcerer has what he seems to be looking for.

i must say i quite like the new sorcerer king patron
its a mix of being darth vader and bene-gesserit
i always loved the 'the dragon' trope so i think it would be very fun to play

>>96378210
>would it be too much to reduce their range by half?
yes

>>96378210
Crafting is a thing- you can simply make it so a character with Woodcarving Tools could create specialty arrows. Like the arrows from Baldur's Gate 3

>>96378428
Have fun getting smeared, you defiling cuck.

>>96378272
>hand and a half sword
>proficiency: long sword
>1d8
>versatile (2d4)
>mastery: expose
>if you hit a creature with this weapon, you can choose to reduce the damage by an amount equal to your proficiency bonus, if you do, the next attack made against it can add that amount to its attack roll

>>96378428
Wait, does this mean Tier 4 Sorcerers/Wizards can become Warlock Patrons?

>>96378723
Do you also 20 levels in Psionicist and are willing to sacrifice millions of slaves to achieve immortality? Or a DM that would say "fuck yeah, that sounds cool"?

>>96378784
I mean, Elminster is 1280 years old as of BG3 without needing to do that, and Volo is somewhere between 100 and 200 and still looks in his 30s, both because Mystra wills it so.

>>96378805
And none of them are from Athas

>>96378210
>Obviously they wouldn't be recoverable after use but would it be too much to reduce their rang by half?

>1.Can't be used with long range
First and foremost, flat application to all craftable arrows. Melee attacks do more damage than ranged attacks at the cost of position and safety, but that flies out the window when your acid vial arrows are essentially 320ft rapier+ greatsword

then you apply certain penalties to specific arrow so they actually feel different instea of just 2d4 fire or 2d6 poison

>max range 30ft because not aero dymanic
>-3 to hit, unbalanced
>arrow head is heavy, disadvantage
>igniting thunder arrows immditely give away your position to to the noise they create
>these arrows take a long time to craft
>these require expensive components
>etc.

Talk me out of a con dumping old man conquest paladin
I know it's retarded but I kinda want to do it

>>96379070
you could grab the tough feat if you wanted to have it lower. plus, with higher cha for your aura your saves won't be impacted as much.

>>96379070
>Old man
>Suddenly once the campaign starts he gains a ton of levels
Fucking stupid. That help?

>>96379127
>age = experience
No Anon you are the stupid

>>96379127
He lost a bunch of levels because he retired 20 yesrs ago

>>96379070
Absolutely do it, put it into the negative and set that shit to -8, same with dex. Part of your goals as an old man are:
>short term: to afford an amulet of health to restore your youthful vigor.
>long term: fearing death, you want to becoem younger to live longer.
Which both give you enough time to get hooked and involved in the plot of the campaign

So you're min/maxing, but you're actually putting yourself in real danger compared the rogue who dumps cha or the fighter who dumps int. Then you can max out str and cha, and maybe up that wis mod to show off your aging insight.

>>96379145
So he’s been a paladin for 30 years but only now starts adventuring and levelling up? Dumbass shit, fuck you cunt.

>>96379199
This one I can get behind more. Still feels a bit contrived. Usually Paladins are highly disciplined and wouldn’t let their abilities atrophy.

>>96379272
>So he’s been a paladin for 30 years
Source?

>>96379276
>They train old people to be paladins
Sure anon, sure

>>96379285
>(((they)))
Who?

>>96379285
>They train paladins
Sure anon, sure

>>96379268
That actually sounds cool
Fuck I want to do it more now
>>96379272
I think there's enough of a difference between actual real world experience and solo drills/fitness upkeep that it's justifiable
An alternative could also be the cause that he swore an oath to was completed in the past, but a new thing renewed his resolve or something. I'm at least starting at 3rd level, so it's not totally unreasonable to have had adventures in the past imo

>>96379272
>Usually Paladins are highly disciplined and wouldn’t let their abilities atrophy.
kek wat? paladin = the mechanical support for any character based on strong conviction and devotion to a specific code/values/etc
next you're gonna tell me you think all monk characters are from a monastery

>>96379070
I'll only say it should be Oath of Glory. Go forth and fuck up them windmills.

>>96379448
>Paladins in my setting aren’t disciplined
Your setting is shit

>>96379448
>next you're gonna tell me you think all monk characters are from a monastery
Obviously not. They're all sailors.

>>96379664
I'll have you know my monk is an EX-sailor tyvm

>>96379070
While the idea of a nobody one-battle gloryhound that received divine investiture for one last swing at bringing his family glory is interesting, your DM's probably gonna make you roll to avoid breaking a hip constantly. Or be constantly treated as senile.

You should do it anyway.

>>96379904
>>96379070

>>96379669
cadfaelCHAD

Has anyone played this before? I got the whole pdf online, and I was wonder what others’ experiences have been.

>>96378568
>>if you hit a creature with this weapon, you can choose to reduce the damage by an amount equal to your proficiency bonus, if you do, the next attack made against it can add that amount to its attack roll

For why?

>>96381057
nta but you’d trade off a bit of damage for a noticeably higher chance to hit on the next attack.

>>96381118
Oh I read the last part as to damage roll, my bad.
Yeah that'd be useful, tee up a paladin smite or similar

>>96378805
In 4E were Templars as Warlocks were introduced. The generic version for non-Dark Sun games was being emissaries of the obscenely powerful magical forces. Anyone who thought they were a god because they could cast like it was nothing.

>>96379070
CON dumping because you wanna LARP as Elric or other famous heroes with health issues always SOUNDS neat but then you get into an actual game and it's just really annoying dealing with worse hit points and saves and there's not actually even a narrative payoff.

Something like "sickly" or "terminal illness" works much better in a game like mutants and masterminds or something where you can make it a dedicated Complication and not just as a passive stat debuff. Passive debuffs with a constant effect are not super interesting to play around in an extended campaign, the same way Sunlight Sensitivity isn't actually fun to play around it's just an annoyance or you sidestep it entirely by relying on saving throw effects instead of attacks..

>>96377486 (OP)
You know what I find weird? In PHBII they had the Dragon Shaman and you'd think it would be a thing Druids can pick up having a whole Circle dedicated to their worship

>>96381956
>PHBII
huh?

>>96381994
3.5 friend

https://dndtools.net/classes/dragon-shaman/

>>96381799
I mean, the Githyanki Empire thinks Vlaakith CVLII is a "god" when she's really just a level 20 Lich.

>>96382014
*CLVII

>>96382006
dragon shifting would be cool for sure, like moon druid but specifically draconic forms

>>96381956
>>96381994
It still annoys me they didn’t just make 5.5e a phb2. They could have just added new classes, subclasses, maybe made the weapon mastery system an additional rule. So many classes that deserve to be more than a subclass.

I don’t dislike 5e unlike many people on this mongolian basket weaving forum. Instead I dislike WoTC and their braindead decisions. I look at 5e and I see nothing but wasted potential. Third party supplements help but many of them are low effort trash and kickstarter scams. 5e could have been amazing, instead we got arguments about how gnomes and orcs should have the same base strength. What a fucking waste.

>>96382182
>just add more content
i like how they actually reworked stuff instead of just adding more bloat.

>>96382239
We’ll have to disagree on that one. I want 5e to be 3.5 levels of splatbooks because I enjoy that. I can see the appeal of having quality over quantity but WoTC gave us neither.

>>96382264
There is a lot of material they are also leaving to rot from previous editions and various splats from over the years like the environment splats like sandstorm and shipwrecked

What are some fun ways to build a College of Dance bard? Any spells or feats that work well with them?

>>96382280
Stormwrack was a delightful splatbook. My DM at the time ran an underwater dungeon and it was fantastic.

>>96382182
I think 2014 5e has a lot of shit in it that's rightfully left to rot or has been reworked to be good
Compare 2014 mage slayer to 2024
Compare 2024 backgrounds (something you basically just skipped because they were utterly irrelevant) to 2024
Compare 2014 mounted combatant's retarded raw to 2024 being the sane house rule everyone with a brain used
I think the base game of 2024 5e is much better with a handful of exceptions, the only thing I find myself not being a fan of in it is the constant doubling down on "use spellcasting stat for melee weapon attacks" and the really weird half ass attempt at trying to make dnd a setting agnostic system which is fundamentally impossible

>>96380714
I had one game in it as the Jaeger class which was ten hours long and had two encounters with a DM who wanted everything to be hardcore, so he made us die in one hit, but then chickened out, when one character actually died and bullshitted her back to life.
So my experience is small, negative but probably not the fault of the book.
I would love to play it with a DM who actually knows what he is doing and give the new class and subclasses an actual try.
Most generic fantasy campaigns (Skyrim, LotR like) have a tonal flexibility to them, which this one does not. Meaning that everyone should agree before playing that this is a specific genre you are getting into.
It's probably great for one shots. Do you intend to be the DM for this one?

>>96382415
I do. I’m getting a party of people who are experienced with 5e and I told them to have 2 character sheets ready at any given time due to how lethal this system appears to be.

>>96382428
I am assuming you are not an all-important douche like my DM was that day and actually balance the game to not make it pure chance wether you live or die and actually let players make their own death saves AND actually let them fucking die when they got their three fails.
I am venting but my point is, the setting can be as brutal as you make it.
I think a prerequisite for this one is that everyone at the table has played and enjoyed Bloodborne. Even more than DnD. If that is the case it could be great.
Just don't expect to be using literally everything in the book. There are a few too many concepts and new rules to show of in a handful of campaigns. And I wouldn't prepare more than that, since the aforementioned specifity of the setting might lead to players getting bored of it.

If I ever DM this one, I'd make a one shot that can be expanded upon if the players so wish.

>>96379427
>That actually sounds cool
>Fuck I want to do it more now

Well, then I'll double down. You won't do it.

Pussy.

what sort of niche did classes like shaman fill in previous editions of d&d

>>96382670
It's already happened
16/8/8/12/14/16 old man conquest paladin is built and set up
Thankfully as a human I get both Tough and Alert so I still have a positive initiative and I sorta act like I have 12 con for hp

>>96382973
Hell yea brother.

Make sure to grunt when your character stand/sits down and ask for insight rolls about the weather using your joints.

>tfw playing D&D alone with an AI because this week's game was canceled.
zamn

>been to 3 sessions with 3 different characters
>always a different class
>describe them similiarly each time; always a wood elf, always the same height, always the same complexion, always the same background of criminal, always the same alignment, always uses the same weapon
>always introduced as being some guy to hire in the next place they visit (each session wraps up on the same day)
>no one has yet caught on that all of them are just the same guy who has a different side hustle every week

>>96384953
yeah because the average player doesnt pay attention or give a shit about anything

>>96385043
Playoids are truly the worst part of DMing.

>>96385202
Sadly correct. If they had any intellect or creativity they would be dming instead of playing

>"Hi, my name is Tom."
>"Hey Tom; just to let you know we allow the combat wheelchair because we are inclusive!"
>"Um...okay? I am a lvl 4 Barbarian!"
>"Awesome Tom. Now what color is your wheelchair?"
>"My character doesn't have a wheelchair. He is a Barbarian. I want to be able to kick everyone's butt."
>"Tom, we are inclusive. You can kick butt the same way in a wheelchair."
>"Sorry, but that's not true. I got beat up last week bc I couldnt walk. Also my legs dont work so I literally cant kick someone."
>"Tom, Dont worry about that. We are inclusive here and the combat wheelchair is magic, and flies, and is immune to damage! We can let it have a free spell where you can kick people with Mage Hand"
>"No thanks. I will just be a normal Barbarian."
>"Normal? Tom, Dont be ableist."
>"Can we just play now?"
>"Yes Tom, but after a talk with the group we are concerned you arent playing your authentic self."
>"Oh, is this a litrpg setting? Sorry, I was playing a different character. Okay I will change my character's name to Tom."
Part 1 of last time I tried to join a 5e table.

>"Tom, I noticed you forgot to put your combar wheelchair on your character sheet. Do you not feel comfortable being yourself here?"
>"I am not my wheelchair. I am just a normal guy named Tom."
>"There he goes again with the 'normal' shit. Tom is making me very uncomfortable."
>"Tom, you are making us very uncomfortable. Jim has severe anxiety and adhd to the point where he cant walk out of bed sometimes, especially today when we found out Trump is going up in the polls. Your use of the term 'normal' is ableist."
>"But Jim can walk. I saw him jogging in here all excited with his pizza from the kitchen. A kitchen he walked into whenever he was hungry. I'm the one in a wheelchair due to a crippling disease.
>"I am beginning to think Tom is lying about being disabled. Disabled people tend to be inclusive. That would explain why he has such prejudice towards the combat wheelchair."
>"Are you serious!?"
>"Tom, please calm down. Jim, you need to remember that people can often internalize prejudices against their own group.
>"My group? My disability doesnt define me. Why do I feel like I am the only normal person here?"
>"THERE IT IS AGAIN!"
>"Tom, I am sorry but after much discussion we decided this table isnt for you. Please leave. We are inclusive here and cant tolerate this type of internalized ableism."
Part 2.
Is this common or just bad luck on my end?

>>96385274
>>96385281
Can you skip to the part where everyone clapped?

>>96385274
>>96385281
>chatgpt ass story
dude, you could have waited a couple of days and hit the 4 year anniversary of the release of that homebrew

>>96385300
No one clapped. They expelled me from their table after the Day0 session.
>>96385310
ChatGPT is retarded but I bet you just wrote this response with ChatGPT and made sure it passed the woke test.

>>96385320
are we supposed to clap? why the fuck are you telling us this ai bullshit?

>>96385274
>>96385281
i have never been asked about my characters wheelchair unless i explictly said they had one
nor has anyone ever showed off their wheelchair accessible dungeon, if anyone made one then it was entirely done back-end and they didnt tell us

i will pretend this is an actual thing that happened and not some thinly veiled /pol/ posting
but literally no one has ever gotten mad that someones barbarian was just a normal barbarian, and this is from a FLGS that has "be inclusive" printed on the tables we use, when the last barbarian player described their character, all the focus was on their tribal tattoos and not on their ability to walk or lack thereof

>>96385343
The fact you're so butthurt over this makes me think all you 5e players are hyper soft woke clowns who love things like the combat wheelchair. Lmao. Okay.

>>96385274
>>96385281
this would be funny the first time I read it in 2007

>>96385351
>i have never been asked about my characters wheelchair
My characters dont have a wheelchair because that would be fucking retarded. I am in a wheel chair IRL. The fact you already admitted you larp as adventurers in wheelchairs is all I need to know that your lot are all clowns. Absolute retardation.

>>96385368
>>96385357
>tourist crying that the 5e general didnt find his very original meme funny
classical

>>96385365
I posted this one other time but it was in 2024 before trump got elected and not here. Thanks though I am flattered that you think I am smart enough to predict trump's potus win all the way back in 2007.

>>96385373
I didnt expect you to find it funny. I expected all of you to rage just like this and get super butthurt, then prove me right. I just wanted to remove all doubt you're all like the table that kicked me.

>>96385400
whatever you say Joe Swanson

>>96385274
>>96385281
Of all the stories that never happened, that never happened the most.

>>96385445
>woke shitlibs on 4channel
5e is cooked

>wheelchairs
>dungeons and dragons
Whaaa hahahahaha what the actual fuck? How is this real??? What the fuck did I miss??

>>96385734
>getting pissy over an optional rule from 5 years ago that has no effect on 90% of players

>>96385742
its not optional, its 3rd party.

>>96385742
Dont reply to tourists

>>96385720
Don't get that mad that nobody fell for your bullshit.

>>96382973
That Wisdom score is far too high for Gunha-dono to be applicable.

>>96385811
>woke 5e shitlibs raging
More proof OSR is objectively superior to any 5e trash

OSRfags not beating the allegations

opinions on this take on wild shape? Ignore the spelling errors, I wrote this while high off my ass

Does this scale-down-CR function in 5e.tools actually work well in your experience? It messes up their AC relative to their Dex but that's not hard to fix when I copypaste it into a document to print... any other shortcomings I should be aware of?

>>96386421
>all that fucking text for a random mook
I want this game to die but we're only a year into the new edition and the biggest normie influencers just signed onto playing this shit for years into the future, it and baldur's gate 3 just ensured it's continued omnipresence and severely reduced any chance of my table trying a new game again. Fuck

>>96386433
thats from Mordenkainen Presents: Monsters of the Multiverse, not 2024 mm

>>96386421
>has advantage on saving throws against being charmed
>and immunity to charmed

>>96386421
are you the same guy who was too scared to make his own stat blocks

Okay so here they are all run through the 5e tools downscaling thing. I'm gonna be using these tomorrow so I'd really like feedback. Printed em out but I can always make changes later. Only things I changed were the spear damage back to 1d6 (it lowered it to 1d4) and the Armor Classes, to match their Dexterity, since it tried to lower them more than their Dex would allow. That's fine.


I just need to know if these will be a good "probably gonna beat you and capture you but you might win if you play your cards right" encounter for my party of three level 4 characters. I want them to most likely be subdued and then told that they have to agree to a quest to spare their lives, but I want them to think that fighting is an option. Would these guys be able to have like a 75% chance of beating a party of 3 levels 4s? But not completely steamroll them?

>>96386433
CR 5 doesn't really feel like a random mook but okay.

>>96386421
It works for minor changes but reducing a cr11 to 5 is stupid, like why would you reduce an archmage to cr 6 instead of using a normal mage npc statblock, or better not being a retard and making your own stat blocks?

>>96386470
no I'm not too scared. I've made like 150 monsters for 5e.
I just got the idea for this part of the adventure from those 3 shadar-kai stat blocks. So I really want to use them or else the idea just loses all weight to me.
I thought about making my own Shadar-Kai but it just made me feel like not even using them at all otehrwise...

>>96386480
Because I want them to fight the normal-leveled versions of these guys as lieutenants of the BBEG at higher levels.
That's why I kinda wanted to use them as they originally were, but there's no point to a level 4 party fighting a CR 7, CR 9, and CR 11 they'll just lose in 1 round and it won't even be fun.
So I'm kind of ruining the "characters level up so they can beat the bad guys that wiped the floor with them earlier in the story" trope by doing this, but I want to use them still.

>>96386407
so you can just cast spells in wild shape?

>>96386474
>>96386484
Overcomplicated. You should never have a fight were every single mob has 3 billion things to do. Each of those could be the single named boss surrounded by simple attack mooks and the fight still be interesting and not a drag. The people who do cool shit should be the PCs and the named bad guys. And the later shouldnt outnumber the PCs

And if your goal is to express the identity of 3 different antagonists in a single encounter, you need to fucking simplify down to 1 single memorable thing. The guy that teleports, the guy that throws knives, whatever, etc.

I can already see the players falling asleep while you take 5 min to do one of these guy's turns, then it's the next, and all the while they realize they dont even have a chance.

if you really want to convey being outmatched, have the bad guys kill a friendly npc or dangerous monster in front of the party, and skip initiating the pretend combat altogether. If the party decides to attack, just use the non scaled stat blocks instead and immediately knock them out.

All this convoluted effort seems pointless and noob dm trap.

>>96386519
this is why I hate these giant statblocks, not only is it 90% useless info that you can't use in actual play instead of condensed info with abbreviations of the most important stuff, but it also serves to hide just how boring and generic most monsters are and makes them seem more than they are, when in actual play when the player is sitting there who can't see any of that flavor text and shit is just getting a generic fight most of the time, and no a trait that gives the enemy advantage on charm saves that takes an entire paragraph to spell out isn't going to be noticed at all, end of rant

>>96378723
no, but tier 5 can, which is what the sorcerer kings are.

anyone far enough along they can start playing on the DM side of the screen so to speak, making projects that have no wotc written rules and accomplishing deus ex machina plot devices.

You know, it occurs to me, pretty much all warlock patrons are things that could have at one time been a human, or at the very least a mortal being. I think i'm just going to make that official in my world. Hexblade just needs a little Soul Eater death scythe action going on, and then... something to do with Fathomless and Great Old One and that's it.

>>96380714
I actually just wrapped the first chapter of Heresy of Steel on Friday.
Admittedly not super deep into the systems and tone, but my players seemed to enjoy it.
I'm definitely a fan from the little I've seen and have concerted some of it onto DnD Beyond to use in future.
One of my players wants to try a jaeger in an upcoming game too.

>>96386465
There's just so much love WotC pours into these. You can really feel it's a passion project and not some soulless money grabbing.

>>96385400
People aren't "raging" against you, they are calling you a liar because your story is ridiculous and implausible. You are asking us to swallow a very unlikely story, then when people don't, getting mad and declaring everyone on fucking 4chan a bunch of woke clowns.

>>96387570
Why are you explicitly outlining how that Anon is a shitposting troll who made shit up for (You)s and then proceeding to give him a (You)

>>96387582
Rightoid trolls don't want (You)s, they want to feel under attack and surrounded by the wicked and nefarious woke, who have taken over even 4chan. Pointing out what they're doing and why the responses have nothing to do with La Woka takes that away from them.

>>96382328
>Compare 2024 backgrounds (something you basically just skipped because they were utterly irrelevant) to 2024
2024 created a new problem there, by making backgrounds much more mechanically important and then giving you less control over them. The default backgrounds are confining, and custom backgrounds are now DM-may-I. They basically took the problem of races being pigeonholed into certain classes and changed it to classes being pigeonholed into certain backgrounds. It sucks.

>>96387979
Just port forward an old background using the rules in the phb on page 38. It’s literally there for you to be able to make your own decisions

>>96386519
>can already see the players falling asleep while you take 5 min to do one of these guy's turns, then it's the next, and all the while they realize they dont even have a chance.
I've never taken that long to take a guys turn even when I had a monster with literally 6 different combat options. It's like 60 seconds tops.
>if you really want to convey being outmatched, have the bad guys kill a friendly npc or dangerous monster in front of the party, and skip initiating the pretend combat altogether. If the party decides to attack, just use the non scaled stat blocks instead and immediately knock them out.
It's too late for the former, cliffhanger already left off in the middle of them seeing the PCs and walking closer. You think I should use the original high CR guys and just non lethally BTFO the party?

>>96387979
Yeah this. It’s easily fixed by just using custom backgrounds for everyone but a truly terrible design decision.

>>96385274
>>96385281
I just wanna say I love how you enraged the tourist trannies with this story

>>96388801
>Hey me, you really did a good job

>>96387979
Then you use the base rules (not optional) to create a custom background, the details are found near the very front of the background system

>>96388951
but anon, id have to read the players hand book to know that.

>>96388951
That's not true for 2024. 2024 puts custom backgrounds in the DMG as an optional rule.

>>96389209
page 38 of the players handbook 2024 has the rules for it. Adventurer's League also uses the same rules.

>>96388801
I just wanna say, I love how you call other people "tourists" when you're the tourist from /pol/.

>>96377486 (OP)
do paladin auras stack? for example, can i use all my auras at the same time? i have level 10 now so aura of prot and aura of courage? i can use both at the same time...?

>>96390445
What does the book say?

>>96390497
i can find nothing one way or the other.

>>96390534
Have you tried reading the book?

>>96390445
Yes? All of your auras work so long as you are conscious. Ergo, you and any ally within ten feet benefit from a boost to saving throws equal to your CHA modifier, and benefit from immunity to the Frightened effect.

>>96390571
Don't spoonfeed the retards, anon. They'll never learn that way.

>>96390542
ive read the book and found no info stating if there is an aura limit. you being an edgy LARPing faggot on 4chan doesn't change that.
>>96390571
thats awesome. im glad paladins are so op in this edition.

>most engaged player is also the worst
a peculiar kind of feel

>>96390616
>ive read the book and found no info stating if there is an aura limit.
that's because there's an even more general rule about whether the same effect stacks multiple times.

>>96390445
Do you even play 5e? 5e is designed around players being Marvel Heroes and making every encounter trivial. I stopped DMing 5e a long time ago because there's no point. Players just steamroll every encounter unless you make it so lethal they die within 2-3 turns. There's not point in playing this game.

>>96390628
auras produce different effects. and the game says you cant stack the same effects of the same aura. but 1 paladin can produce several auras at the same time. this is awesome. my paladin is basically an unkillable damage AND buff machine at this point. i thought you had to pick 1 aura at a time, but the fact i can just use all of them at the same time is awesome lol they didnt play test this for sure.

>>96390649
>i thought you had to pick 1 aura at a time
the book doesn't say that anywhere.

you making bad assumptions and not paying attention isn't the same as the book being confusing.

>>96390616
>found no info stating if there is an aura limit
No shit retard

>>96390660
i see that now and its awesome. paladins are the bset class in the game in my opinion. i get the best damage spells, best protection spells, and get aoe auras and can use all of them at once. this is insane lol

>>96390649
>but 1 paladin can produce several auras at the same time.
In 2024 rules, it's all the same 1 aura giving multiple benefits.

>>96390667
damn wotc did not play test this at all and im not bitching. cant wait for next session.

>>96390674
its the same mechanic lol, its just worded more clearly (you need to read the books)

>>96390701
i read the books, i guess i was just so shocked that paladin was this overpowered my brain thought there's no way they'll let auras just pile on top in terms of effects. this is hilariously awesome. you really do snowball in this game after level 5 holy shit

>>96390701
But if he does that, he might realize paladins got a downgrade in the new book.

>>96390730
the entire point is that your aura gets better as you level, always has been

>>96390730
just wait until you play a caster lmao.

homie graduated from monk to a class with features and blew his mind.

What class would be fun to play with the artisan background and eventually getting the storehouse Bastion facility? Like what class/subclass would be fitting for someone who is out to turn a profit above most everything else? In short, which class would best fit the archetypal merchant? Rogue? Bard? Wizard perhaps?

>>96391020
I'm surprised I'm saying this but 2024 monk is actually fun as fuck and I'm not even playing a 2024 subclass

>one game on hold for over a month after dm suddenly started moving houses out of nowhere
>other game cancelled this week
I'm wasting away
Please...I need but a crumb...

>played too much battle realms

glass sword
1d12, shortsword
mastery: cleave
when you land a hit, the sword automatically breaks and showers both wielder and target with piercing shards
both must make a DEX save or take 4d6 piercing damage

>>96391961
Why would I ever use that?

>>96391981
because it is funny
also, random enemies running up to you and then accidentally killing themselves because they didnt know that their ultra-sharp sword was under massive amounts of tension is also funny

>>96391707
I've been hounding my group to move to the 2024 rules specifically to play the new Monk and GOOlock.

>>96391891
Try DMing, playoid, and perhaps you will understand why we abandon you over a single drop of rain.

>>96392070
I'm more interested in Barbarian myself. Berserker isn't gimped anymore, and Brutal Strike seems nifty.

>>96386407
it's shit

>>96392070
We switched mid-campaign (with valid plot explanation) and Sorcerer is way improved.

>>96391891
>finish long-running campaign
>immediately move house
>was already married to one of the players
>one of the others moves in with us
Little by little, I make it impossible for my players to flake on me.

For the UA artillerist artificer; rock gnome or goblin?

>>96391405
Bard.

What is thematically the best subclass for a character who likes to write stories?

>>96392837
bard

>>96392866
not bad, can also be a Warlock – Great Old One who writes the dark whispers of his patron.

What are your opinions on the combat wheelchair 3.0? I actually think it's awesome. One of my friends had to use a wheelchair for 3 months and it came out right when he was feeling his lowest. He said it really helped him get through it. It's been 4 years and he's been wheelchair AND cane free and just finished a marathon. He said to me last year that he is developing it more for 5e to be more balanced and address some of the criticisms so people feel like it's acceptable to make dnd inclusive for everyone. That story always inspires me a lot and helps me get through my crippling depression. When I find a new table I' playing my armless monk with elemental arms. She is next level shit.

>>96392543
goblin. Wands an protection turrets don't require verbal components, so you can cast while hidden without revealing yourself

>>96388801
Thank you. Anytime I talk about the combat wheelchair, 5e players lose their fucking minds as if I'm using the term Xandering instead of Jaquaying.

>>96391990
>funny
not really

>>96393196
>Hasn't been getting the responses he wanted
>Sock puppets harder

>>96393227
>>96393196
are (You) really this bored?

>>96393227
>>96393237
I came back after an hour away to see some guy compliment me for triggered you woke losers. I thanked him and now you're melting down AGAIN over it. Hahahahaha!!!!

>>96393271
>yes
We don't post our selfies here

what are some fun half-cantrips to dress a setting with? ive always been a big fan of really inconsequential spells like those used for changing your eye color or folding clothes or what have you

>>96393387
use prestidigitation and minor illusion to turn bland porridge into chocolate puddng

>>96393387
>half-cantrips
ma'am, this the 5e thread

>>96391405
Warlock. And you're not always paid in coin.

>>96393387
>changing your eye color
Isn't that Disguise Self? Thought it's not a cantrip

>>96393387
Thaumaturgy is the one you might be thinking of.

or Druidcraft if youre a nature nerd

gonna run a dungeon based off my last dwarf fortress game

>party is paid to help reclaim a dwarven fortress
>they see the remains of a great battle that has been fought between dwarves and goblins outside
>they see goblin bodies crushed under boulders and shredded into pulp by saw traps, but also a few adventurers who had come before, to remind them that these traps do not discriminate
>goblin war parties are still wandering the surface and upper layers of the fortress, providing combat encounters if they do not sneak
>at the bottom they see doors that have been caved in
>ogre as a semi-boss fight, goblins have been using it as a battering ram to get inside
>players now see the inner citadel protected by a raised drawbridge that the goblins couldnt breach
>they can either destroy it with anything explode-y or pull it down by disabling its mechanisms somehow (the party could shrink if they think to)
>party is too late, every dwarf inside is dead
>but not all of them died to natural causes, there are signs of fighting
>true final boss, a berserk axe dwarf in masterwork steel armor and with a masterwork steel axe and with legendary saves

>>96394012
Sounds pretty good to me anon.

I think the GM miscalculated and gave me an extra AC. Although I'm not going to insist on that because I've already contradicted him a few times and I'd be getting annoying. Besides, it benefits me, lol.

>>96395797
Time to AC stack and make the most of it

There a way to play half elf and half orc in 24 besides conversion from 14?

>>96396580
They weren’t ported to the new books yet so atm you either have to pick an orc or an elf and just role play it OR port it w/ your dm

Is Guidance the worst spell in this faggot ass game, that we're stuck with because playoids will cry if you take at away, EVEN THOUGH all DCs in the game are fake anyway so I can just lower them all by 2 to compensate?

>>96397194
Cope about it, faggot, I'm going to ask my god mommy for help and there's nothing you can do about it

>>96397194
It’s fun to roll dice so imma have to disagree with you

>>96397225
You're already rolling dice whenever you use Guidance. The only benefit is rolling a d4, the worst dice to roll by a country mile. It feels like ass to roll.

>>96397214
Oh, cool, what did you roll on Guidance? A 4? Wow, the best result! Hang on, let me just check my notes to see what the DC on that lock was...

>>96397275
>rigging your game
I've already won. You might as well have plunged my dagger into the BBEG's heart with your last second cope edit to that DC because from this point on nothing matters.
>b-but you'll never know I'm behind 10 dm screens-
I don't have to; you'll know your game was bullshit as you toss and turn in the night shaking at your morally reprehensible deed. You monster.

>>96397312
I didn't rig it. I just canceled out the impact of Guidance, the gay AIDS spell that exists only to make the game slower, stupider, more annoying, and dumber.

God, wait'll we tell this clown about Bardic Inspiration.

>>96397367
Or Bend Luck.

>>96397367
Guidance is a cantrip and can be cast infinitely many times, as such it just warps the math, party composition, and character generation around it, for zero flavor or mechanical interest. (Negative impact on flavor, in fact.)

Bardic Inspiration consumes a limited resource. Same with Bend Luck.

>>96397406
>aaiieeee why are these characters in touch with divine forces allowed to reap benefits from it help me niggerman I'm going fucking insaaane

>>96397467
If it was a 1st level spell, they would still benefit from it without the entire game turning into the "did you remember to say "I cast Guidance"" show.

>>96397312
playerlets still havent figured out every game is bullshit we curate to make them feel emotions, cute

>>96397406
In bg3 if I didn’t have a concentration for another spell on shart I cast guidance on someone. It is genuinely an amazing cantrip and one that there is literally no reason not to have on someone 24/7. For example for random unexpected checks etc.

>>96397474
I just ask the cleric in my game every skill check.
>Do you cast guidance?
I don’t want to make a player have to scream over everyone constantly.

>>96397406
You'll be casting it about as many times as you cast Guidance in a given adventuring day, especially since adventuring days tend to finish when casters run low on spells. Rendering it a distinction without a difference.

>>96397641
>I just ask the cleric in my game every skill check.
>>Do you cast guidance?
>I don’t want to make a player have to scream over everyone constantly.
wow. thank god we do this instead of just lowering your DCs by 2.

Like I said, playoids are too stupid to understand it is bad game design.

>>96397326
>he doesn't play in VTT, easily automating all the dice calculations, expressly using as many features as possible to increase die numbers and variety merely to watch them clack across the screen all at once in abundance that makes tablefags seethe

>>96397681
Not every party will have a cleric or druid thoughbeit???

>>96397681
Depends on your DMing style. Personally I like to keep DCs somewhat consistent across campaigns. Some of mg players have been in my campaigns on and off for 15 years.

>>96397194
Nah, that’s Shield.

>>96397806
Nah, that’s silvery barbs

Need a little help statting out a magical greatsword known in legend as the NOGSLAYER 5000
Any thoughts? It’ll be for a human fighter, thanks in advance

>>96398247
It’s a simple +1 magic sword, no other effects. With a name like that, it’s overhyped trash

>>96398247
+1 greatsword

>critical role openly doing branded content marketing for Wotc
>critters still coping
>"N-NO THEY'RE JUST A FEW NERDY ASS VOICE ACTORS!!!"
lmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao

>DM runs Undead encounter
>cleric just channel divinities and the encounter ends in a few rolls
this game is so fuckin easy

>Player rolls cleric
>Shoehorn in a 300 skeleton encounter so he can be the hero and kill them all with a channel divinity
>Leaves him without a CD for the actual planned encounters
Devilishly devious

>>96398878
Next you're going to bait the wizard into using his reaction on shield, instead of counterspelling the upcast fireball that's going to lead to a TPK

>>96398951
I'd never do that
I'd also certainly never bait eldritch knights into taking opportunity attacks only for the enemy to walk back up to him to multiattack now that his reaction shield is gone
And could you imagine casting sleep at a non elf bladesinger after his turn 1 bladesong + concentration spell to incapacitate him and end them both? Wouldn't be me

>>96399026
A based DM posting in 5eggs? That's unpossible!

>>96397406
My cleric has cast Guidance like three times and it's been Subtle casting to help the party cheat at contests of skill during downtime. I was going to help the Dex fighter pick a lock once but I was wary of making noise because we knew guys would hear us.

>>96399213
So you both defend the bad spell and are bad at using it?

>>96381956
>you'd think it would be a thing Druids can pick up having a whole Circle dedicated to their worship

I think the reason Druid's don't get any sort of Subclass involving Dragons because then you'd probably just be making a variation of the Moon Druid Like what I'm doing or you'd get some variation of the Sorcerer subclass: Druid edition
That's just the more obvious irl answer, in-game it's more likely because Dragon's aren't considered a naturally part of nature because they're magical

>>96397641
You're going to make big wave-y gestures and loudly invoke your gods every sixty seconds of your waking life? One you spend a third of your life sleeping and ten percent of the remaining two-thirds casting Guidance?

>>96397648
>adventuring days tend to finish when casters run low on spells
Only if they used resources wisely. If they cast Fireball on the three melee-only dwarf bandits instead of kiting them or letting the martials clean up then the encounters come faster and harder once the spell slots have been squandered.

>>96399230
Gonna cry about?

>>96399230
The PCs are on a grand and important quest, looking goofy to make sure the Rogue can safely disarm the trap is a small price to pay for victory. Their lives are on the line! It's entirely logical for the Cleric PCs to constantly spam Guidance, that's part of why it's bad: it's just mechanical cruft, "Simon says" shite, that adds nothing to the game because the DCs are all made up anyway.

>>96399217
This character doesn't use it because it's not their vibe and it's been applicable less often than one might have expected in this game.
I'm not defending anything.

I never take guidance because fuck my party members

>>96399260
I want to use the mechanics of the game narrativefag.

>>96399325
Yes, from both a mechanical and narrative point of view, there is every reason to constantly spam Guidance. This is the problem, playoid.

Imagine being so buckbroken by a d4, you fuck with your own DCs that you set yourself. That's not being a DM, that's being a cuck.

>>96399385
If you actually ran the game rules as written instead of handwriting everything to suit your own pacing, it wouldn't be so simple to spam Guidance to begin with, ruleslet.

>>96399423
Imagine being such a playoid that you believe the DCs that the DM sets are not completely arbitrary and made up to serve his whims, in 5e of all games.

>>96399439
It is a one action cantrip, it is in fact easy to spam, RAW.

>>96399444
Imagine being such a cuck that a d4 causes you to have a melty on /5eg/. Sucks to suck, I suppose.

>>96399476
>if you say this game mechanic that sucks is bad, that's having a melty and being a cuck
Okay, playoid.

>>96399486
>sperging out about a d4 for 5 hours isn't having a melty
Imagine being such a playoid you have to LARP as a ShitDM just to pretend you know what you're talking about.

>>96399486
>spending hours arguing about the guidance cantrip because its a d4 roll on some checks occasionally
>fudges numbers to make himself feel good
>not a shitter

unless you and the dm are both reading some published module together while he plays the monsters in combat then your game is fudged
if you dont die to ancient dragon attacking the village in session 1 but survive to avenge your family through the campaign then your game is fudged
if the loot you find seems to be somewhat usable by your class and party then your game is fudged
if moments of excitement and reward and levity seem to be followed by moments of danger and tension and seriousness then your game is fudged

if your game is any fun at all instead of a random sequence of boring events in endless whiterooms then your game is fudged

>>96399528
He does this all the time. Just argues for the sake of it. Ignore him.

My favourite meme is when a PC is talking to an NPC, the DM asks them to make a persuasion/insight/whatever check and another player says "I cast Guidance! Add a d4 to that roll!"

>>96400160
Npcs don’t react to spells being cast in your game? Kind of lame don’t you think ?

>>96400178
That's why it's a meme. The Guidance spammer has no concept of what casting a spell actually means in the world their character is in.

>>96400178
>>96400211
It also makes no sense for their character to think to do this. Some persuasion or insight checks it might, like if you know you'll be entering some tense negotiation, but not randomly mid-conversation.

>>96400232
>cast guidance in broad daylight, right next to someone, while they are talking to each other
>"oi, dont you go wagging your fingers next to me, you crumbum"

>>96400261
Wagging your fingers, practically shouting over the top of you...
If you're going to Guidance mid-conversation for a mechanical benefit, you should see the mechanical consequence that any NPC is now predisposed to distrust you all.

>>96400160
I only allow guidance for shit that hasnt started and that the caster is aware of the target being about to start doing, like jumping a gap or unlocking a door.

>>96400299
>Wagging your fingers, practically shouting over the top of you.
That's not how you cast guidance. You snap your fingers, slap their ass, and tell them to git gud.

>>96400299
guidance just requires an action and a touch
a random commoner might not understand the significance of the gesture
but you can definitely have more observant NPCs call them out on it and refuse to talk until he ends the spell

>>96400337
also its verbal and somatic, so the spell caster is clearing doing something

Oh, my barbarian also uses magic to convince people. He places a firm hand on their shoulder and says a few endearing words. Then I roll intimidation dice to see if the spell worked or not.

>>96397519
Anon, I can tell when you change shit on the fly. You're not provoking anything from me but annoyance over how ill-prepared and easily jilted you are.

>>96400346
Yeah, they're saying a prayer to ask for guidance from their god. It doesn't require shouting, it can be as simple as an uttered prayer. Now if an NPC is weirded out by a guy suddenly praying to god mid-conversation, then have him react appropriately, but if it makes sense for a Cleric to be able to invoke the name of their god and work into conversation naturally, then that should be fine too.

>>96400372
you can't tell anything, you are a playerlet staring at shadows. Every moment you enjoyed is because we decided it so. Even when we pretend "oh no you beat my bad guy" you fall for it

>>96400423
>he's a self appointed story shitter

>>96400423
Anon, I'm typically foreverDM precisely because I don't trust dullards like yourself to run a good game. I decided to play for once and give my buddy a shot and guess what? We can tell every single fucking time he fudges it. He's not slick and neither are you.

>>96400435
No wonder a d4 makes him piss his pants. He's afraid of any roll that interferes with his novel.

>>96400337
>>96400396
A spell having verbal components means you speak magic words in a clear, powerful voice. You can't mutter your verbal components.

>>96400758
No one said anything about muttering. You just have to audibly speak in a clear, unmistakable tone. A normal speaking voice is acceptable. A prayer that means nothing to the uninitiated is perfectly fine, so if it is conversationally appropriate to bless someone with a prayer, then you can interject Guidance without it being weird. However, this will not always be the case, and you should obviously have NPCs react to the sudden incantation.

On the rare occasion I’ve been a player I told the DM guidance is constantly on our rogue unless I say otherwise. Or I’m concentrating on something else. You’re all overthinking this simple cantrip.

>>96401189
>I told the DM guidance is constantly on our rogue unless I say otherwise
you don't get to decide what happens "unless I say otherwise", the DM does. Know your place you fucking playoid

>13 hours later
>xhe's still having a melty
Who knew that a d4 triggered trannies this hard

what are some cool setpieces for a sunken castle?
how much do i want to make the centaur pc deal with underwater sections?

>>96401551
how sunken you thinking, like partially fallen into the ocean or completely underwater?

What classes/subclasses do you recommend if I want to play something that allows me to bomb and reduce my enemies to nuclear ash? or something liek that idk

>>96401551
what kind of sunken are we talking? the sea or some marsh?
bog mummies
mutaded survivors / became fishmen. The castle chamberlain, other caretakers are undead fishpeople who still act like the place is normal
a path that seems to go forever into the sea like the Lyonesse level in DAoC
some giant sea monster lairs in the throne room

>>96401594
its a partial collapse in a swampy area. theres enough water to the point that its become a breeding ground for naiads that terrorize the nearby town, its the interior that im having trouble designing

>>96400178
What is the issue?

Literally, think about it. A player is trying to persuade someone. Their party member casts Guidance on them, and the NPC clearly notices. So what? That only means that they see the person trying to convince them has divine backing to their argument.

>>96401778
In a universe that has both good gods and evil gods, the actions of some stranger casting divine spells should raise eyebrows

>>96401805
and obviously, you can have NPCs who dont care at all and NPCs who do mind quite a bit

>>96401805
Do your NPCs regularly come across evil clerics?

>>96401864
whats stopping this one in particular from having seen an evil cleric before?
or maybe they just dont want any spells cast near them for whatever reason

you can come up with a hundred reasons why someone doesnt want guidance cast right now

>>96401866
You didn't answer my question.

>>96401920
NPCs dont have to "regularly" encounter evil clerics to not want guidance cast near them
nevermind the fact that evil clerics likely spam guidance themselves would eventually be known for that
an NPC can their own, rational or not, reason to not want a cleric to wave their hands and say magic words in their presence

>>96401948
You still haven't answered me. It's a simple Yes or No question. Do your NPCs regularly come in contact with evil clerics?

>>96401952
>It's a simple Yes or No question
lets pretend I say yes, well now anyone would have a right to be suspicious of clerics waving their hands
now lets pretend I say no, it doesnt matter, because this NPC in particular can just not want to see any cleric mumbo jumbo in front of them

>>96401952
>You still haven't answered me. It's a simple Yes or No question.
It's also irrelevant. They've been explaining why. Are you autistic?

>>96401961
If they are too retarded to answer a simple question, then why would would I waste any more effort than just calling them a retard?
>>96401958
retard

>Gladiator Fighter is a Charisma based Martial Class

Why not just make it strength based. Saying that the Gladiator is also a sort of Entertainer feels like a weak excuse

>>96402004
>not roleplaing a cha based fighter
ngmi

>>96402004
I just want an excuse to ask who put the glad in gladiator

>be me
>second time DMing
>play a customized Version of Frozen Sick I also played for my first time DMing
>Halfling Bard
>Human Rogue
>Tiefling Barbarian
>Dwarf Bard
>Dwarf Bard said he makes auto vicious mockery every time he uses bad words
>sometimes RPing "fighting" it, let him roll if he does or nor
>Group wants to use the Magic Stone Chest to teleport themself to Syrlya
>Even catching a Rat to test it first
>seemsfine.exe
>They all port themself
>Okay, everybody rolls a D20
>DM Goal was a bad effect at 15 or under
>lowest roll is 16
>Group now bad equipped for the cold
>Didn't gather the information, what to do in Syrlya, only negotiated on the reward
>standing in the Yurt of "The Buyer", who is mad as hell they abused the magic stonechest
>Dwarf Bard Vicious Mocks "The Buyer"

at this point we stoped, since it was late, and I had no statblock for "The Buyer".
I wonder how to best handle the Situation. Problem is, this could end in making the NPC who they have to deliver the Questitem to, an enemy of the group.

Keep in mind, I am a noob DM, also we had lots of fun (DM of the another Campagne we Play is part of the Group, so if I struggle with rules, I can ask him), everyone is chill and the goal for anyone is fun.

My ideas so far: Make "The Buyer" a Mage or Archmage, with two Toughs (standing outside and join in case of a fight). Then first thing will be checking if Vicious Mockery hits - If yes, a fight will start, of no, the Group has a chance of Talking themself out of the Situation, and after some time, a Note will arrive through the magical Stone Chest explaining to "The Buyer" what is happening, and why it was urgent to use the Stonechest (time is running out), and on the backside of the Note I put information for the Players on what to do, who to meet etc.
Howevery if there is a fight, it could end in:
- Groupwipe
- The Buyer dies
- The Buyer runs away
- The Group runs away

If the Buyer dies or runs off, the whole place will be after the Group.

>>96402024
Fuck you, now that song is stuck in my head

>>96402024
The Glad in Gladiator comes from Gladius which is Latin for Sword, or rather for a specific Shortsword used by the Roman Soldiers.

>>96401534
If the DM has a particular reason I can’t cast it that’s fine. But assuming I can keep it cast it went on the rogue. This was something I worked out with the DM and had I been told no I would have accepted it.

I'l be completely honest, i'm out of character ideas, and i need one for a soon to start campaign.
Any cool character of yours that i can shamelessly steal?

I always play comic reliefs, and i've always been the "spotlight" in terms of fun and attention of the whole group, but never being the party leader or stealing "screen time" from the protagonistd at all.This time however im afraid i wont be able to pull it off, i need something fun to work with.

I'd like characters that are great fun to roleplay as, that can have many fitting occasions to actually roleplay instead of just bringing everything to a halt just for a shitty joke, and that are actually enjoyable to interact with, both for party members and NPCs.

I don't give a fuck about being powerful, nor about combat. I can also be useless as shit if it improves the characters flavour.
Any race/class combo goes.

Try to go into as much detail as you feel like, i want to o get a good grasp of why and how your characters actually work in keeping the good vibes for everyone going.

Thank you in advance anons, and sorry for the shameful request.

>>96402048
No Hercules put the "glad" in the gladiator you fool
>>96401958
>lets pretend I say yes, well now anyone would have a right to be suspicious of clerics waving their hands
Idk why people are obsessed like acting in a world full of magic that even the most retarded peasants would be constantly superstitious and paranoid about magic that they would be getting in your face about you putting your hand on your bro's shoulder and going "Jesus loves you man"

>>96402521
Young spoiled prince necromancer wizard with a skeleton butler. Got kicked out of his parents kingdom and chances at the throne after he delved into the dark arts specifically to get better servants because he felt the current ones weren’t good enough.
Use Archlich’s necromancer wizard rework since the subclass as is ends up being fucking ass

>>96402036
Is he sweet?
OUR FAVORITE FLAVOR!

>>96401648
You’re a very brave man to so brazenly tempt Python references.

>>96401864
but anon all organized religion is evil so all clerics are evil

>>96403144
As an actual atheist, pretending that gods in a fictional setting who actually do shit and have an effect on the world are legit is perfectly cool.

>>96403144
Cute dog, though.

>>96403162
As a fictional antitheist, eradicating clergy and believers so as to get rid of the vile divine taint on the world is even better

>>96403211
Enjoy your afterlife in the Wall of the Faithless then.

considering telling "that guy" player I kicked everyone else and now im looking for other players to restart the campaign, but secretly I only kicked him and we are continuing without him

>>96403376
Word will get to him.

>>96402699
This could be neat, but i wonder if i should just play the spoiled brat, which could get a bit old, and maybe lands more on the annoying part rather than a funny or good vibe character for those around him.
Again, good vibe doesn't mean clown or bard, even a villain who never gets anything right and is a little shit can be a good vibe.

>>96403510
HOW THE FUCK DO I GET RID OF HIM THEN
IM SO TIRED OF THAT FUCKING GUY
all my players are normal adult women with children who have their life together and he's just thatguy+read the room + opti shit + starts fights without consulting the party
he literally belongs here with the rest of you autists

>>96403709
>he literally belongs here with the rest of you autists
so do you if you can't just fucking tell him to leave because a normal human being could do that easily lmao

>>96403709
Speak with him you retarded autist. Why are 99% of DM problems the fact that they're somehow giant pussies who are incapable of saying something stern to another human being?

>>96402919
ive never even heard of it before

>>96401610
Draconic sorcerer.

>>96403970
>never even heard of Monty Python and the Holy Grail before
Christ. This hobby is dying.

MY bbeg is a radical anti theist though

>>96404525
oh, that python. fuck im retarded, i thought that was the name of some other fantasy series lmao

>>96402919
the huwhite man's programming language

>>96404661
>This dungeon burned down, fell over, and THEN sank into the swamp!

>>96401551
>>96401648
Take a look at the swamp of sorrows/sunken temple from WoW.

>>96404697
this looks like a great starting point, ill have to dig a little deeper in a bit. thanks anon

>>96404525
don't worry anon i got the reference, just watched that movie again a month or two.

IT SANK INTO THE SWAMP
SO I BUILT A SECOND ONE

>>96405057
BUT THE FOURTH ONE
STAYED OOP

>>96401948
>to not want guidance cast near them
Why can they identify the specific spell when every cleric has their own flavor of it anyway?

>>96401971
>If they are too retarded to answer a simple question
You are not owed answers to your inane questions. Do not mistake defiance it for retardation just because it's what you are most familiar with in your life.

>>96402027
I wouldn't necessarily launch straight into combat if the Buyer becomes subject to Vicious Mockery. It's just a particularly painful insult, if he isn't super well versed in how magic works or has an especially stiff upper lip then he might just take it as a provocation or offense, but not necessarily one worth killing over. Maybe have him push back and add more caveats to the deal or have the Buyer ask the group to make amends and/or pay reparations for this offense. If they turn down the olive branch, then he may turn to combat to defend his honor.

>>96403581
He can be a spoiled brat, but let him be a brat that's surprisingly competent and intelligent in a sheltered, book learning way.

>>96402521
What is the hook/setting of the campaign? Got quite a few characters under my belt that have all been accepted well by the group and the gm, we had a fun time doing a tier list once of all of our PCs across different campaign, I was glad to see most of mine being ranked high (for what its barely worth ).

>>96405591
>don't mistake someone being too retarded to answer a question with them being a retard
ok retard

>>96405670
>make amends and/or pay reparations for this offense
I like this one, especially since the group is pitty with its money (all the stuff is expensive since it is in the far north and difficult to supply). They will hate to give away gold.
Point is, The Buyer is already very angry for the usage of the Magical Stone Chest. I also thought about having the whole place going against the group, enslave them and sell them into some arena battle arch or something like this.I also like the the idea of the Buyer porting away and let his Thoughs handle the situation.

Thanks for the input!

Whats a good way to handle magical locks?

>>96405817
Retard this, retard that. The simple matter is that your question was irrelevant and not worth answering and you throwing a tantrum over it does not inspire any confidence in whether you are engaging in good faith.
Enjoy your last (You) from me on the matter. Really savor it. You've earned it, clod.

>>96405883
Thanks, retard. Though it would have been easier if you had just said Yes or No. Didn't need to sperg out about it like a retard.

Best way to get a martial weapon using cleric in 2014 rules? I'm thinking its dwarf or hobgoblin with something that gives you access to shillelagh

>buy monster, player and dm books
>also get the monsters of the multiverse
>friends too busy/depressed to play or just don't like d&d at all
>bought them anyway because I like them
>daydream about playing someday with a group of friends
>will probably never happen
>thinking about getting the xanathar guide book
s-should I

>>96406601

it's worse when you actually vibed with a group and it disbands due to life shit/moving away. While the direct emotional impact isn't super bad, i'd honestly say it fucked me up longterm about on the level of a gf breakup.

anyways, it's your money, who cares.

>>96406601
Having more books from lots of different systems is always a good thing.

Part of the problem these days is how so many limit themselves to only 5E.

>>96402036
you're welcome?

>>96406601
on sale, sure. but no reason to juts but it to have it if you're not gonna use it.

New thread
>>96406762
>>96406762
>>96406762

any AI suggestions and/or tools to play alone?

>>96406786
No.