Thread 96386676

Khorne Loves You Edition

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>96377802

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

>Booru:
https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php

>Thread question
So how was the Year of Chaos(tm) with Skaven refresh, Khorne starter re-releas and Chorfs coming back? (note: 40kek needs not apply)

>TQ
Still in the khorne narrative end of campaign release waiting room.
That being said I am getting chorfs so im excited for that.

>>96386676 (OP)
>Thread question:So how was the Year of Chaos(tm) with Skaven refresh, Khorne starter re-releas and Chorfs coming back? (note: 40kek needs not apply)

Got new boners, got new gitz. Both my armies got cool new stuff that I like. Happy for ratfags getting a bunch of stuff, not super hype on much else personally but all of it was pretty good

>Khorne only gets a pity hero, no worse it has that warband too
happy anniversary might battles in the mortal realms

>>96386676 (OP)
I love Gitmob and the Revenant Draconith. Not sure I like the direction of deathrattle aesthetically but another hero and a mono AoR is rad. They just need a wizard enabling artefact

Morning /aosg/
>tq
Just going over all of 4th releases
-skaven were a great and faithful refresh, which was all the army needed. Made me interested in the army which I never thought I'd say before
-stormcast was more stormcast. The army still doesn't do much for me but the new stuff looked good. I know it's not feasible and that they're practically designed for the role but damn some other faction needs to be put in the starter box. Never gonna happen though.
-honestly don't remember what orcs and std got lol
-gitmob, damn where to begin. Good looking minis but don't mesh with the rest of the army and horribly overpriced. Kinda killed the hype for me.
-soulblight had a great update, not much to say. Only negatives are them squatting the old wight on steed and old cado.
-don't get me started on idoneth
-kharadron was cool, new kit is full of character. Terrain is alright
-new deathbringer is cool but they squatted like 3 other kits instead
-new fec is cool
-new nighthaunt character looks nice but overshadowed by depressing tome
-chorfs I go back and forth on whether i like them or not. Currently not so much but eh I was never super into them.
That's all, thank you for reading my blogpost.

>>96386953
The warband is Khul fanboys, so it's modeled after (you)

>>96387142
>don't get me started on idoneth
Good or bad?

Question: How many Sigmarines chapters are there in AoS?

>>96387358
Nobody knows because Sigmar's burocracy is infamously shit and new ones can just pop up in specific places, while other places have pre-established subfactions present.
Seams like you can jsut declar you're making a new one and nobody stops you from doin it, like when some dude re-made Sigmarite Brotherhood to honour the loss of the real Sigmarite Brotherhood

>>96387373
Lmao

>>96387358
just like space marines, as many as there needs to be. it is essentially infinite to accomidate yourdudes

that said, as far as actual recognized stormhosts in the lore, there are 8 really big ones with full page lore sections, then about another 20 official lesser stormhosts that are basically just color schemes in the painting sections of the battletomes, but the book does make it very clear that there can be any number of stormhosts, and as long as warriors keep dying and being reforged into stormcast, more stormhosts will keep appearing. it also mentions that if those warriors all come from the same area, in the book it lists an example of a society of winged warriors, that they might all get thrown together in a new stormhost that leans into those traits, like with excessive prosecutors.

>>96387358
There's an indefinite number of stormhosts, which are partitioned between an indefinite number of chambers, which may comprise an indefinite number of stormcast eternals.

There are as many as you want there to be.

>>96387358
lots
lexicanum lists 67 that have been at least namedropped
66, if we remove the sigmarite brotherhood destroyed by belakor

>>96387466
>khornate pitt mommies
Truly terrifying

Are the Slaanesh miniatures nsfw?

>>96387626
Yes, you'd get fired for playing with toys during your work hours

>>96387626
None of the models are naked or whatever, if that’s what you’re asking. I think the DoK have the only model in the game that’s showing anything overtly with the Medusae’s free hanging breast

>>96386676 (OP)
I guess spiders are khorne coded now? Always struck me more as a tzeentch thing

>>96387651
They're conected to number 8, aren't they?

>>96387651
He has a few animal aspects in AoS. A shark, a kraken, a pig, a canine, a spider, and maybe some others I don't recall.

>>96387651
Multiple gods can be represented by the same animal at times.

>>96387657
True. Khornate kraken when

>>96387717
Nurgle Kraken seems more likely

>>96387717
The Blood Kraken is venerated in Thondia.

>>96387741
that's 40k

>>96387748
No he's just wearing looted censer tubes.

>>96387748
He's from chamon :)
>>96387762
Will take a look later, cheers

>>96387762
>quality is not great
Nonetheless, it's appreciated.

>>96387762
It's all legible and the lore is there too so cheers to the uploader even if they're just phone pics.

>>96387762
You are a saint and I wish you many blessings in life. Been begging for this the past few days.

is it possible to play all daemons in this?

>>96387652
I didn’t count that guy because it’s a weird animal

>>96387991
Yes. The options for playing all-daemon armies are a little more limited this edition than in previous ones, but that's true of basically every army.

>>96387991
Yeah. Pure daemon is possible, and probably at least passable, for all the monogod factions. You can play the legion of the first prince AoR for an army that uses mixed daemons, but your roster is limited for it

>be tyrion
>be god of light
>wake up alone in hysh
>venture to realms edge
>stare into the light long enough to have your eyes melt in your fucking skull (I repeat, the god of light)
>some eldritch personification of hysh notices you
>pass out
>wake up again
>now teclis is there
What the FUCK is happening in hysh man

>>96388320
Evidently he made a deal, his brother back to him, in exchange of his eyes, and who knows what else.

>>96388340
He's specificially mentioned as going blind before meeting the spirit, which seems to be to all of shyish like the cow giants are to specific mountains.
I like the theory some anon put forward that teclis isn't "real" and is basically a hallucination made manifest. Supposedly lumineth have this thing were tyrion emits light and teclis reflects it, and this supposed to be part of their philosophy where tyrionic elves are more active and assertive, while teclisians are more reactive. I guess it would be fitting for "teclis" to be a literal reflection of tyrion's light.

>>96387762
dead already?

>>96388320
the synthesis of empiricism and logic

>>96388410
well a moon can't shine without its sun

>>96388410
I don't like "this obviously real thing isn't actually real" theories, they're never satisfying

>>96386676 (OP)
+ model releases were great, one of the best years for sculpts
+ cool to see original aos armies finally get *something*

- i find the game side extremely boring and predictable, there's nothing that makes me excited to build a list for any of my armies.
- i don't really find the new ghb an upgrade but a sidegrade? you could always build your list around trying to score certain battle tactics, it just sped up the beginning of each round which I like, but it also made the game even more predictable. still prefer spearhead and 40k's card system, the latter especially since it punishes building skew lists.

>>96388504
I like em as long as they're hinted at and never outright confirmed.

>>96388410
GW aren't interested in that kind of subtlety or "gotcha" writing. Little Timmy's centrepiece model isn't just someone's delusion (outside of FEC at least, and they'll be damn upfront about it if that ever happens).
Also, when a God thinks something's real, reality tends to listen. Not that GW are liekly to have gone that route either.

>>96387762
>>96388440

https://littercatboxmoe slash 6szs7zpscxd3jblcpdf

Does anyone have a playlist of all the delisted age of sigmar youtube trailers???
I really wanna watch some of em but they're hard as fuck to track down.

Question: do AoS dwarves get a stick up their butt about being called short or no?

>>96388797
do you have a stick up your ass about being called a faggot?

>>96388797
Outside of memes, that was never really a thing in the first place, so it can arbitrarily be, if your aim is a meme or moment of humour.

>>96388806
No because sticks are too rough

>spider zombie fungus has spread from UK to all over the world
It is a sign

>>96388870
I wish. But it's difficult to imagine Spiderfang not going the way of the Bonesplitterz.

Does anyone have the dominion of chaos book from 1st Edition? Or the realmgate wars books?

>>96388606
Amazing
Much appreciated

>>96388933
https://files dot fm/u/nmrtbukfku
No dominion of chaos but I have the RGW stuff

>>96388909
Key difference is that it's possible to simply remove the tribal native look and keep the spiders which is what I assume anyone actually cares about

>>96388933
d/4WQgBe on g0fi13 should have you covered. Some of them might be compressed poorly. There are also some extras in there from 1st edition, like the primer from the launch box.

>>96389039
yeah, totally

>>96389173
Kragnos will never know peace until gw makes a faction of centaurs for him

>>96389214
Drogrukh Horde launches in 2029
Trust the plan

>>96389214
>until gw makes a faction of centaurs
Can someone post that one meme of him and alarielle

>>96388997
>>96389102
thank you very much, anons

>>96389173
All of those poor arachnaroks defaced to make stuff like this and bad soul grinder conversions

>>96389214
But I want BoC back, not an expanded cast of four-legged backup dancers for Destruction's Poochie.

>>96386676 (OP)
is 4e fun yet? I played it when it first launched and found it to be a bore compared to 3e and 2e.

Chaos Sorcerer on Duck of Tzeentch.

unfunny faggot
>>>/tg/slop

>>96388626
Try looking for old articles at pages like
>http://natfka.blogspot.com

>>96389297
For me it's the bot making anti-Gobsprakk, as a female tzeentch wizard with a LoC hand

>>96389276
They will be back, but as a chaos faction made exclusively of spawns of morghur, no minos, no centis, just spawns in various shapes and sizes and spawn accessories

>>96389621
tzeentch will get his thunderscorn one day...

>>96389627
tzeentch has nothing specific to do with dragon ogres

>>96389633
Its in the thunderscorns fluff that they have some attainment towards tzeentch

>>96389649
where

>>96388606
>>96387762
Thank you, Anon!

Finished my proxy for bad moon loonshrine. Looks just janky enough

>>96389806
Looks more like jank on your part than jank on their part.

>>96389806
10/10

>>96389821
That's kind of the point. Its a 2 dollar plastic banana. I'm not going for lore points here

>>96389806
holy soul

I wish they kept Stormkeep rules, I love the idea of enduring Stormcast forced to live as mortals.

>>96389806
Somehow I feel like this is more lore accurate than the real thing.

>>96389833
You want it to look bad?

>>96389842
Do they even explode anymore

>>96389842
It's been said before, but it seems like GW is pursuing a strategy of disentangling the model ranges of all their mainline wargames from each other, and doing the same with the individual armies of those games. I suppose the rules that let armies bring a mix of models from different factions are simply something that may have been sacrificed to fulfill that mandate.

>>96388606
thanks anon
also lmao when looking at mathaela's warscroll
>little fluffy text about viewing namarti as the true form of idoneth, not having to bow to akhelians and isharann
>buffs fucking companion attacks (aka akhelians and isharann)

>>96389899
No, I mean the 3e distinction between Thunderstrike and not
They could've had something like "these Stormcast are cursed and know they will not make it back to Azyr", as a progression of the cursed skies.

How does morathi not have a single bl book under her name in Aos?I guess she has broken realms but still. Is a dynasty of monsters worth reading at least?

>>96389933
>cursed skies
Eh? Wuzzat

>>96389947
That thing belakor does sometimes to stop stormcast from reforging. Also leaves behind a fucked up aura or whatever, made a few kharadron flying through it commit suicide.

>>96389947
Chaos storms created during Broken Realms when Belakor tried to pull Chamon into the Realm of Chaos by detonating realmgates to re-create the polar gate crisis on an even bigger scale.
In the end you end up with rolling dark clouds raining demons and blocking the light of Azyr, trapping Stormcast souls and destroying starborn Seraphon under them

>>96387142
>don't get me started on idoneth
You and me both. Fuck, man.

>>96387762
>gone
Damn. If someone could toss it on gofile so I can get it later when I’m home, that’d be appreciated.

>>96388979
>someone saved my dumb little gif from long ago
It’s always nice seeing stuff you make pop up randomly.

>>96389806
SOVL

>>96389944
Because BL are fucking hacks

is this a little juvenile leviadon? he cute.
>>96390312
good shit anon

>>96390388
just a random doodle, don't think about it

>>96390388
>is this a little juvenile leviadon?
Looks like it based on the scale of the weapons stuck in it

>>96390225
I like to imagine that Be'lakor began this Chamon shit immediately after getting blasted into smithereens by Vashtorr during Arks of Omen

>>96389656
There's some tidbit of them attack fyreslayers in aqshy on lexi iirc. Aside from that tidbit, there's probably none.

Is it going to look too off putting if the shield on a chaos warrior isn’t the same color as the rest of their armor? Everything on a quick image search shows them being the same color

>>96390752
Depends if you’re making them aligned to a different god. Otherwise it’s whatever.

>>96386676 (OP)
>So how was the Year of Chaos(tm) with Skaven refresh, Khorne starter re-releas and Chorfs coming back? (note: 40kek needs not apply)
I don't know, I don't pay much attention to Chaos. I know Skaven are a pretty popular army and I haven't heard them complain that much, so it seems successful to me.

>>96390752
There are no rules on chaos uniforms, chaos is chaotic, whether it looks good or not depends a lot on the colors in question, what was your plan?

>>96390752
Do a test model. Paint up the whole rest of the model and then start on the shield with whatever color you have in mind. If it looks off, just stop partway through and swap to your main color.

>>96390763
Aight, thank you. Also forgot to ask anons to share chaos army pics

>>96390807
Thinking dark green for the armor, then big time rust effects on the shield/weapon. I’ll also be doing the base a warm brown. I could do as >>96390807 suggests and if it’s bad just leave the weapon rusty. I could also do the entire armor and everything rusty and only have the dark green on the cape

>>96390846
Meant the second (you) to be >>96390810 oops

Do soulbound parties ever make a feature in bl? Or is it its own little weird thing.

>>96390876
I don't even know if they're canon desu. I play WFRP but the other Warhammer RPGs never interested me.

>>96390876
Soulbound material but never Soulbound individuals as a concept. The 3rd edition core book has a reference to them or something that could be read as such iirc but it's mainly a Soulbound only thing.
Idk why they made it so weird and abstract, feels like a different canon

>>96390846
Rust and green should work, especially if you pay some attention with keeping the helmet as similarly in focus, and have some of that rust in the armor and some of the green on the shield (the chaos star could he in the same color as the armor and you could have various suppurating pores with green slime)

>TQ
When is Lord Tzeentch gonna get some love?

>>96390960
Guymer was apparently involved with writing the Blackened Earth campaign and used some of that stuff when writing about Gotrek's adventures in Greywater. No mention of Bindings, though.

Side note: BL's book output for AoS has really been garbage for the past couple years. So much of what they do is just Gotrek stuff, Gotrek spinoffs, stories about "iconics" like Drekki and Gunnar, republishing old stories as new anthologies/omnibuses, and giving work to Dale Lucas. It has got to be possible to do better than this.

>>96391102
we used to have reynolds. Closest thing we have to a quality writer is maybe french.

>>96391117
Noah Van Nguyen was putting out good shit with Godeater's Son and Yndrasta before he was poached by 40k.

>Browsing Amazon for primer, paint, and other materials because there's no good stores around
>$7-$9 for a single bottle of paint
What the actual fuck is this? Why is paint so fucking expensive on this dogshit site?

>Ask my LGS's local grog about his thoughts on AoS and the End Times
>"It was stupid, the old world was more grounded and the new one's too weird."
>mfw

>>96391277
It's been like that for me irl too, anon.
Everything just inflating in price.

>>96391281
>the new one's too weird
This sentiment always frustrates me when I'm hit with it in the wild, because I'd like for much of the setting to be weirder and sillier than it currently is.

>>96391010
Much appreciated anon. Might go that route now that I can see it

>>96391281
>High fantasy is weirder than low fantasy
Truly a master analyst. The End Times do suck, but we got TOW now so the kits are mostly being sold and the rules are easy as shit to pirate.

>>96391300
It's not like people saying this even know a thing about AoS setting, only really making assumption based on hear-say and bad past reputation.

>>96391321
But both are same high fantasy?

>>96391339
If you wanna get semantic, sure they're both "high" fantasy, but I think there's a difference between Not!Earth but with monsters and multi-dimensional magic disc realms.

>>96391339
same type, not same degree

>>96391365
What the fuck this is just earth but drawn by a toddler

>>96391281
Not sure what you expected anon, they're grogs for a reason. Though I will say at my lgs the grog attitude towards aos has evolved from seething hatred to indifference. "Yeah minis are cool but game's just not for me" is what I hear most from old fantasy fans by now. Ironically the only vehement aos haters I come across are the types who weren't even into wargaming when the endtimes went down, and just got hitched later through total war or general 40k culture war autism. Still pretty rare though.
>>96391365
I don't think there's really a definition of high fantasy that doesn't include whfb, it's pretty out there. Only in comparison with aos, which is more mythological/epic fantasy, does it seem grounded.

>>96391401
That's kind of the point, it's meant to be familiar enough to not need too much info to get into. You're just supposed to know that the High Elves are Atlantian, the Empire is Germany, the Orcs are steppe hoards, the Norscans are vikings, etc.

I like the look of this guy. He looks like an asshole. The lack of a big hat means he doesn't even look like a pompous asshole like the war despot and sorcerer. Just a plain spiteful piece of shit who gets up in the morning to make the world a worse place.

>>96391287
There's a reason why I don't order GW paint from there. It's somehow cheaper on the actual GW site than through Amazon. I'll get models there because it's usually cheaper, but the paint is always at least $2 more on AMazon than GW.

>>96391657
Look on ebay maybe

>>96391561
I think the 3 hero characters in general have been the best part of the chorf reveal

>>96391139
Poaching is the biggest problem, honestly. You make more money writing 40K books, even if they're just boring ass marine slop.

I decided to study some AoS lore last night in honour of the anniversary.

I remember in the early AoS years the haters would be all, "lol bubbles of reality lmao bad fluff".

Then that gradually transitioned as AoS stans put forth the idea that "actually bubbles of reality was bullshit criticism from people who didn't actually read the fluff"

From what I read... the first group was right.

>>96391815
Explain.

>>96391815
No the bullshit criticism was "realms are infinite" and "they're bubbles" was the correction

Wait
Vizzik Skour is good?

>>96391838
That is a depressing tournament list.

>>96391838
Id replace a plague packs(didnt even know you can take two of them) and Globadiers with Clan rats but I actually like it.

>>96391815
I dont even understand what you're trying to communicate

>>96391890
AoS lore is pretty shite

>>96389214
I'm sorry but that's not going to happen, Kragnos along with the Beasts of Chaos and Bonesplitter went into narrative limbo never to return, but look on the bright side at least the forgotten God of Chaos will no longer be alone.

>>96388933
*with all my heart ESLkun
>>96390786
buttbuddy is doing warhammer fantasy art now?

>>96391896
Im sorry you feel that way anon. I personally think its cool that Nagash has a monopoly over the shyish winds of magic, and that lizardmen are actually active in the setting.

>>96389944
link to the full image please.

>>96391561
not much point in wearing a hat when you can't even feel half of your face

>>96391835
Is there anything keeping them from being infinite?

As I was studying I saw that beyond the 8 MEGAREALMZ there are a whole bunch of subrealmz and faction/individual domain realmz.

>>96391561
Why does it looks so dusty?

>>96391922
>Nagash has a monopoly over shyish
Not so fast bonie

>>96391947
Imagine grampa bonesy fiddling at the local tavern and everyone singing along the song about how he outsmarted nagash.

>>96391939
>Is there anything keeping them from being infinite?
near the edges the reality becomes less solid and the saturation of magic is increased and it's invariably fatal to travel too far

>>96391896
Maybe its lore isn't perfect, but it's moving forward and not stagnating like fantasy and 40k did.

>>96391939
>>96391968
The realms themselves are pretty fuckhuge but as you go farther from the centre, the land gets more saturated with the respective realm's magic and shit starts to get crazy and effectively inhospitable. Hysh' edge is bright enough to melt the literal god of light's eyes right out of his skull. The void between realms is also inherently anti-magic, so where the two meet things get pretty magically violent. Sometimes little crystallized chunks of this anti magic void fall down to the realms, which the tophat dwarfs use to fuck with magic users.
Anyway the subrealms are pretty weird but they're not that important usually. If the realms are essentially flat planets within a solar system then the subrealms are moons and asteroids.

>>96391922
>Nagash has a monopoly over the shyish winds of magic
Not until Gazul is sucked dry, and Nagash still seething he haven't caught the stunted fella.

What thickness of plasticard should I use for making floor tiles on bases? is 1mm thick enough or should I spring for 1.5mm or even 2mm?

>>96389915
It's almost like they wrote the rules specifically to make the tournament fags buy the model

>>96389944
AoS porn?

>>96391923
>>96392290
Its mortathi snek form and lauka (the big monster lady), you arent strong enough for its contents.

>>96392314
No shit we can tell.
And bitch please I bench 300 fucking lbs link it

>>96392337
Alright fine damn
https://x.com/kicakaki/status/1674989485468073984

>>96392408
Ehhh okay I'll fap to this.

>>96391838
God damn, 4.0 completely butchered army building. It's almost always "Spam your elite and or monstrous infantry" alongside a center piece and then some support heroes and then maybe ONE ranged unit.

Does anyone remember when you could bring like 120 skeletons in a list and still have room for some black knights and a VloZD and a Necromancer? Or being able to bring some Dryads and Tree Revenants alongside several Kurnoth Hunters and tree lords?

I hate how 4.0 has made the game this weird fuckin' elite stand-in-the-rings game.

>>96392646
It is pretty disheartening, yes.

>>96392646
Not to defend or attack 4th but I only remember some dude bringing hero hammer maggotkin lists in third

>>96392646
Just play your favorite edition, anon. Our playgroup just juggles between 2 and 3, outside of rare occasion that our resident stormcast player wants to play his 4th edition models.

>>96391968
I meant an infinite number of realm-bubbles within the cosmos, not an infinitely wide landscape disc within one realm

>>96392744
There's only 8 magics

>>96392241
It depends on a couple of things.

Do you want to cut out individual tiles, or do you want to cut out a square the size of a base and engrave a tile pattern into it? For the latter you need thicker card.

If you are cutting out individual tiles, how much texture and/or damage are you interested in applying to them? You may need thicker card for deep, layered damage. If you are happy with shattered tile and light cracks thin card should be ok.

>>96392744
This isn’t 40k anon.

>>96392762
But aren't there realms outside of the 8 megarealms? Like Skavenville?

There also seem to be "subrealms" that are parts of the 8, but it is unclear to me what that means in a lot of cases. Are they areas of the realms that physically abut them, or actually separate dimensions (if the latter that is more evidence for effectively infinite realms)

Underworld miniatures are either exclusive to that game mode or can be used in a normal game.

what kinds of spells/chants we expecting from the chorfs?

>>96392798
How about you just look into one realm and see if you like that instead of focusing on everything. Usually if there’s something important with that realm that another realm interacts with it, it’ll be stated and you can learn what each realms role is in the setting more organically.

>>96392823
Hoping to see ash cloud/storm since that's always been their most iconic spell in my eyes

>>96392823
It’d be neat if they have two lores to pick from. I think they have a priest too in there though so it’s not likely.

>>96392811
What?
Is that supposed to be a question?

I dont wholly understand how humans use magic

>>96392823
They can get rock hard but if they fail the wizard roll they literally turn rock hard and die

>>96393354
it's magic. they ain't gotta explain shit

>>96393354
they use their connectiin to a wind of magic. its quite simple.
>>96392798
minor subrealms are rare. outside of skavenblight, i can only think of the twilight prison of slaanesh. the realms all have a physical presence. They are essentially planets in a solar system and subrealms could be seen as rather large astroids compared the realms as planets.

>>96393411
yeah but shouldn't being in the literal realms of magic be extremely taxing on them in some way? Do they piss flames if they're an ember wizard in aqshy? Would a beast wizard start mating with random wildlife if he woke up with morning glory in ghur? Do goth women get bigger tits in shyish?
Also are people just born with their elemental attunments? Do they get to learn it? wouldn't being stuck in ulgu stop you from being able to properly cast hysh magic?
That kinda stuff eludes me.

>>96392968
It works as a statment

>>96392968
I mean, can those miniatures be used in a classic 2000 point game?

>>96393504
Yes they have rules. They are legends however.

>>96392886
Well, understanding precedes liking, for me. I don't decide I'm going to like something and then learn about it. I learn about it to discover whether or not I like it.

>>96392646
this is an off meta skaven list retard.

>>96393441
Wizards are born that way, and have to be thaught to not blow themselves up, that has been a thing since fantasy.
I dont see wht being in a realm of fire, be taxing on a fire wizard, People in different realms already take parts of respective personality, Ulguans are all quite and unasuming etc. So if anything, Fire wizard should feel the best in Aqshy

Does Spearhead have a narrative component to it? Like how it went from Fire and Jade to Sand and Bone, is there a story there?

>>96393482
Lol

>>96393504
Like >>96393518 said.
They are still usable in Warcry though

>>96393658
>Fire and Jade
Aqshy getting invaded and the trek to ghyran
>Sand and Bone
Uhhh uhmmmm zomby's

>>96393658
No, there isn't anything like that.

>>96392231
but nagash did get the stunty

>>96393674
I see
>>96393778
That’s pretty lame, I feel like they should give it some narrative set up at the very least with how Spearhead seems like the most popular gamemode right noe.

>>96393830
If they give spearhead a narrative focus Warcry is well and truly dead

>>96393833
It's stupid, they're completely different games.

>>96386676 (OP)
Soon

>>96391922
Morrda is alive
Zenestra is the Cinder God
Nagash doesn't even have dominion over the Duardin afterlives
Lorelet stfu

>>96393877
based

Necromancy is back and it's more zesty than ever.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/8epcgs0h/pick-from-two-amazing-diorama-miniatures-by-subscribing-to-warhammer-this-year/

>>96391561
I hadn't noticed the freehanded embroidery on his vestments before now. Neat stuff.

>>96394259
>New animations are incoming, including Sigmar’s Toll and further episodes of Blacktalon.
Oh right Blacktalon S2 is supposed to still be ongoing. I never bothered watching the first half.

>>96393441
People from particular realms tend to have an affinity for casting that type of magic, and it's much easier to cast that lore in the realm because the ambient magic is everywhere, but your personality and shit like that are still a bigger thing that determines which lore of magic vibes with you best. People can learn multiple lores of magic anyway, though each new one is harder to learn and none are easier than the one you've got the most affinity for. The highest tiers of collegiate leadership have to learn all 8 in order to gain their positions of authority.

>>96391102
>republishing old stories as new anthologies/omnibuses
It sucks that they stopped publishing stuff set in Underworlds. The Direchasm & Harrowdeep anthologies were nice. I'd have loved to get something like that for Wyrdhollow or Deathgorge and their warbands.

>>96394259
>zesty
>skeleons
Consider Baron Samedi

>>96391102
Idk, Gotrek seems to retcon the clattertraps by having them as more primitive platforms with legs instead of Soulbound's elaborate ornate clockwork animals
I think BL authors reference the material, like the Tetra appearing, but it's not set in stone.

>>96394259
What a fucking waste. I want the wight king emerging not this half naked dude

>>96391102
>BL's book output for AoS has really been garbage for the past couple years.
Probably not many people read them.

>>96394259
>AoS model
>completely new sculpt
>Eldar model
>clearly just a bunch of assets in CAD slapped together

>>96394259
>diorama
Any idea what it could be proxied as?

>>96394380
Maybe he's big enough for a Radukar. Or Wight Lord, i think that comes on circles instead of ovals now

>>96394380
Nobody is going to have any problem if you're using it to proxy something that would go on a smaller base

Dat soft digital backlighting tho

>>96394512
GW really can't do necromancers anymore, a shame

>>96394512
That skellie in the middle is the only good part

so, if you could only pick one, harpoons or cutlasses?

harpoons get a better shooting attack and that slippery combat phase move, but the cutlasses seem like they do waaaaay more damage and also buff other KO units

aesthetically i like them both and i could see taking both in the list, and probably will get 20 or 30 at some point, but i only have enough cash right now for one full squad.

>>96394527
The dual kit curse.
You buy it twice.

>>96394512
Shit the wight king crawling out of the ground looks cool as fuck.
The necromancer is kinda meh. Feel like he would be a loot more necromancy if he was fully clothed though. Like the staff and gems.
Also this is like soulblight exclusive miniature number.... what, 4? Are they the primaris lieutenants of aos?

Guys, does anyone have a link to the 4th edition Slaves of Darkness Battletome and Gloomspite Gitz?

>>96394512
and where did this handsome guy come from?

>>96394583
I think the sculptors just like working within the SBGL design space.

>>96394583
Last year's was for CoS, no? Or am I remembering that wrong?

>>96394601
I think it was yeah. Marshal and squire iirc

Heard rumblings in the mortal realms.

Next edition or some time after GW are planning to give some proper narrative to the stormcast akin to the Horus Heresy but set in the present time. Sigmar is going to go missing and the lord commanders of multiple stormhosts will step up (like that cartholos guy) I was not told how many just the basic plot they are going to run with.

They are going to give more flavour to the stormhosts and are going to have stormcast die for good/disappear too with Sigmar missing. It will set up mysteries surrounding Sigmar’s disappearance and why some stormcast are not being revived. This will apparently lead to some stormhosts growing resentful and bitter as they had already been losing themselves/getting ptsd in the revivals and now feel Sigmar has abandoned them. Some fight to die for good and some are enticed by chaos to join/return to them as some were chaos worshippers in their past life.

This will pave the way for a stormcast civil war, the mortal realms as a result being trampled on. Apparently chaos stormcast are going to happen with different stormhosts falling to different chaos gods and then more generic ones like chaos space marines. They will be revived by the chaos gods but keeping the chance to die for good as the chaos gods are fickle.

Apparently they are going to flavour other stormhosts around other gods and races in aos a bit where stormhosts have given up on sigmar/or havent and went to other gods like Alarielle, Morathi, Teclis etc.

There is also going to be crusades across the realms for these mysterious bolts where the lord commanders will find them potentially and be infused with sigmars essence becoming more powerful and being able to have more control over the revival or their stormhost’s dead.

It wont be for a while apparently. They are trying to get a long term narrative in play so are in planning stages primarily. I have no idea on models but would assume in line with lore movements.

>>96394757
I hope none of this comes to pass.

>>96394757
dogshit fanfiction at best. feel bad about yourself, anon, very bad.

>>96394757
The only cool thing about this is stormhosts throwing their weight behind other gods like alarielle or morrda. All the other stuff sounds like ass and I'm glad it's fake.

>>96394757
Fake and gay a mile away, there's a reason why we NEVER ever get rumors about fluff developments, anon, go back to the drawing board, and next time post your shit as a genuine wish, rather than a dishonest piece of shit "rumor".

>>96394259
Is there a reason this was revealed so early in the day? Some britbong holiday going on or something?

Story rumor: in 5th edition, the Stormcast Eternals will have to fight an enemy and there will be one or more novels about this. The enemy is rumored to be one of the factions within Age of Sigmar and not from Warhammer 40,000. A character dies.

>>96394259
That's it, just cancelled my subscription

>>96394828
Queen died

>>96394259
>>96394512
Why is he so jacked? You could grind meat on those abs. He looks like Kraven the Hunter if he started summoning the dead.
That Wight in the middle looks cool as fuck though. It's nice to see just a circlet instead of a cartoonishly large crown like on the Wight King on foot.

>>96394601
The before that was Karlina von Carstein. so that's 2 SOulblights in the span of 3 years.

>>96394757
Chaos Stormcast already exist

>>96395019
>Why is he so jacked?
Exhuming corpses is good exercise. Have you ever seen a bloated graverobber? I wouldn't think so.

>>96394757
Is there anyone with taste dogshit enough to actually want anything anywhere near this? I can't tell if this is wishlisting fanfic or ragebait

>>96395036
I would assume that once you get your first couple of mijnions you have thyem exhume the rest

>>96395019
Being a magic user doesn't stop you from living a healthy life

>>96394822
There's something weird and fucked up to me about this style, i never liked this team's work with 40k slop that was way too dark and grimy but this stuart little motherfucker is driving me nuts to look at

>>96395049
and miss out on the workout and the feeling of doing good honest work the old fashioned way?

>>96395057
Being a dhar user absolutely stops you from living a healthy life

I think you guys are blind or don't know that having visibly defined ribs, or having a gaunt bald head, aren't signs of good health

>>96395077
Dhar isn't a thing anymore

>>96393566
Its actually becoming meta now
Its either Verminus infantry spam or Rat Ogre spam
The Ghyran Screaming bell and skaven prayers are just so damn good but only work on infantry

>>96395099
They're wrong about the type of magic (and even kind of wrong about how it fucks you up in whf) but right that using necromancy fucks you up if you're a living person. All mages get changed by the magics they use, changed more the deeper they drink of their powers, and necromancers eventually tow the line between life and death

>>96395099
Of course it's still a thing, the metaphysics of the setting haven't changed, necromancy is still more dark magic than it is just shyish.
Besides shyish alone also isn't good for your health.

>>96394781
God it literally is a fucking space marine

>>96394757
You really typed all that? Fuck man you're gayer than the morathi troons

>>96393793
When?

>>96395209
age of myth

>>96395114
There are three completely different skaven list on the front page of woehammer. What he claimed about list building isn't true.

>>96395167
I know right I've been staring all day and I just can't the difference between these two because I'm a fucking drooling retard.

>>96395044
in theory, I would be good if GW put any effort into making the different Stormhosts feel different from each other. The models are basically blank slates, they would be great bases for conversions if GW had created lore that would inspire conversions.

In reality, I desperately want GW to stop focusing on Stormcast so much It's been ten years of hard work, hammering away to get Stormcast from impossibly boring to "meh". At this point I think it's actively hurting AoS to have such a dull army as the poster boys.

Is the end of the De Minimus exception going to effect Warhammer models?

>>96395336
Yes.

>>96395350
well, shit

>>96395310
Yea the stormhosts being a bit more unique would be nice for stormcast players, and I do find the notion of them taking up a different patron deity intriguing. All the other horus heresy 2 : fantasy boogaloo can go and stay in a pit.
Again I really want gw to try and put another army in the starter box, just to see what happens. Stormcast are not as obnoxiously central to the setting as marines are, but they are the launch set minis for a reason, as much as I would like to see them deviate from that.

>>96394326
Give him a top hat and I'm sold. Love some Samedi equivlants.

>>96386676 (OP)
What’s the future of Daughters of Khaine?

>>96395531
Lumineth subfaction

>>96395531
They'll get expanded this edition with a Krethusa wave, likely including Crow Sisters and new Warlocks, based on the UW warband and Krethusa's fluff generally.

>>96394326
I was thinking something more supernatural, like a scheme that tries to paint light coming from inside the 'mancer

>>96395531
doomfire warlocks replacement
krethusa's underworld warband as a unit added to the roster

then malerion and some of his boys released during the campaign for the end of the edition

then next edition rebranding of the battletome, since it now has more than just the daughters of khaine

>>96395531
Souped with Ogors

>>96395531
>>96395609
Surely when umbraneth arrive eventually™ they'll be souped together. Dok already has shadow stuff going on and 5 elf armies is probably too much even for gw

>>96395217
I am sorry, but where are you getting this from?

>read new popular DnD(3rd party) module
>ratmen nation and region
>plagues, wacky engineering and assassins
Motherfuckers just ripped off the Skaven again

>>96395641
>again
?

>>96395641
Lel always funny to see it happen to gw

>>96395622
yeah, 2 is the minimum, 3 is the comfortable standard, 4 is pushing it while keeping it still functional, 5 is just fundamentally wrong

>>96395684
There was a way older DnD module I read that ripped off Skaven
Scheming Ratmen with plague wizards and techno sorcery
In a completely seperate 3rdparty module I also realized I was reading about a Sylvania Ripoff, a Bretonnia ripoff(but they were elves instead of French) and an Athel Loren ripoff

>>96395597
I think that might be one of those things that look good from some specific angles (if done really, really well), ie in photos, but a lot less so IRL.

>>96395690
Warhammer started as a D&D ripoff, to be fair. Honestly thinking about it, pretty much all big fantasy IPs these days are based on either Warhammer, D&D, Lord of the Rings, or Conan, really. Game of Thrones also has some lingering influence, but mostly in a "Political Scheming is cool" sort of way. Fantasy is a very incestuous genre.

>>96395497
We're in.

>>96395778
traditional western fantasy is based on the middle ages, catholicism, and norse and greek myth, that's all its ever been based on.

>>96395883
Conan has a very different vibe from LotR. It's later along the incest tree where you start getting the obvious rip offs.

>>96395711
We're at 4 elf armies right? Not counting cities. 3 dwarf armies when chorfs drop

Motherfucker
Its straight up the Graveguard armor

>>96395920
We need more non-elf/dwarf order armies

>>96395974
Stormies, cities and seraphon carrying hard

>>96395920
>We're at 4 elf armies right?
correct, light elves, shadow elves, light adjacent nature elves and shadow adjacent nature elves

>>96394259
This is really cool, might get the sub for him.

>>96395622
Not sure how I feel about this. Malerion is awesome and dark elves are cool but I like my femdom murder witches

is there a full scan of KO and khorne yet?

>>96395622
>eventually
Remember in 2e when people would talk about Malerion being just around the corner

>>96394757
fake and gay

>>96396284
No.

>>96396285
he's been around the corner the whole time
just not the corner ahead

>>96396284
I hope we get the ko one soon. I need this in better quality.
Not mine of course, snagged it off of twitter.

>>96396285
I got tired of waiting for him and decided on LRL because I was between the two. Saw the writing on the wall that Chorfs were coming first probably around the time they started getting more and more lore mentions like Hobgrots, and it made my decision for me.

>>96396285
chorfs are back, anything is possible
malerion in 5th edition babyyyy

>>96396285
To be fair, 2E was pretty much peak Malerion teasing. Then after Broken Realms GW more or less stopped talking about him.

>>96396398
Chorfs were ten times as established as him

I wonder if the rules for the 4th edition armies of renown will be free in 5th even with new battle tomes

Stormcast lore rumour is bs.

Its models first then lore to set them up and go around them. Model time lines are about 3 years from concept to boxed. Lore/books are 1yr to 6 months.

GW are currently preparing for 40k next summer and are in the package design phase. SM vs Orks.

All i can say is for AOS, GW are sticking to stormcast. They are sticking to Chaos > Death > Destruction. SC are going coastal. Death are going coastal but not vamps.

>>96396591
tornus was set up like way back in 2e

>>96396591
>death are going coastal but not vamps
I have no idea what this could be, besides vcoast but just all zombies
I'm going to choose to believe you because coastal stormcast sounds hilarious
LITERAL sigmarines

>>96396591
Shut the fuck up you fake ass faggot.

I think Stormcast would be more successful if they copied the armor MK system from Space Marines more blatantly. Mk 2 armor has a different feel than Mk 7 armor despite the similar silhouette, and I think this not only itches the fancy of armor autists, but helps with distinction between chapters, companies, and units depending on how you want to collect your army. I know Stormcast technically have different armor types, but they all communicate the same aesthetic sense.

>>96396701
what you think is wrong

>>96396701
Fuck off

>>96396586
They'll be illegal in 5th

>>96396729
you'd make a better bait post by saying they'd be mandatory anon

>>96396701
shut up
stormcast do not need to be more successful

>>96396784
if they really wanted to make them more successful they would let them soup with cities and other select order armies.
I dont get why GW doesnt embrace the
"I want you to own two armies and you will fucking like it" philosophy. I think even 40k is opening up to it.

>>96396811
the inevitable reality of it is either every cities list brings zero SC rendering it pointless, or every cities army brings reinforced stormdrakes completely enrages people.

>>96396643

I think they probably are implying they will be AOSified vampire coasts.

Idoneth killed alot of mermen and other sea civilisations. Maybe zombie mermen/surviving living ones as necromancers. It would be interesting and cool to see some non human death units/faction.

Not sure what coastal stormcast could look like maybe vanguard but a bit more naval with thunder cannons and lightning harpoons. Lightning vs Water would be a good fit.

They could create a naval game for aos too.

>>96396893
Vampire Coast was always a lot more about the Zombie Pirates than the Vampires anyway (Harkon aside) so it's not unthinkable to make a version of that without bloodsuckers. Not that I think it's happening, but you could do it for sure.

>>96396929
eheheh benis

>Guymer posts his early notes for his Hamilcar stories
>they reveal nothing because they're completely illegible even to him
Alright, then, keep your secrets.

>>96396929
Lightning hair stormcast are funny, is there a model like this?
>>96396937
Necromancer focused vcoast could work yeah. Outside of pirates it's a bit hard to come up with a coastal death faction though, especially one that doesn't step on the toes of idoneth. Sirens? I don't know.

>>96397054
I have exciting news anon. An old underworlds warband.

>>96394757
Wasn't this literally what some anon was shitposting about like 1-2 threads ago, Stormcasts that have primarchs basically based on the different realms.

I'd be more convinced we get an Avatar of Sigmar before we see a "horus heresy" stormcast thing. Even GW realizes Stormcasts aren't as popular as space marines considering they don't get the type of releases comparatively.

>>96397036
Lmao

>>96394512
Lol looks like some fanfic shit. Sbgl attracts some weird ass writers and sculptors, like the twilight underworlds band. Another pass for this year.

>>96394757
Bullshit, the premise of aos is that storm cast are already on the backfoot and a vast majority of the realms is owned by chaos worshippers. Stormcast haven't really done anything notable but lose since the first edition, and it doesn't make sense for beings that have sigmars essence literally attached to them to fall to chaos.

But hey maybe the lead creative is also responsible for the 4e rules direction and I could totally see the extra chromosome on display from that.

>>96397081
if anything, i could see the startset being cities for once rather than stormcasts becoming marines.

>>96397081
Yeah 4E was actually a drawdown on SC releases, they got...redone Liberators and Prosecutors, a new elite infantry unit, and a new elite cav unit. Plus the usual sprinkling of new heroes except half of those were also resculpts. The entire Ruination Chamber consists of like two infantry units and a couple of heroes. In exchange they wiped out everything released in 2E and a good chunk of 1E.

I do think eventually we'll get more Lord Commanders or whatever they're called to highlight different Stormhosts but it's not ever gonna be like Space Marines.

Will Hedonites get a crumb of attention this edition?

>>96397123
i guess they will get a pity hero at least. maybe they get their own chaos warriors too.

>>96396454
Pretty sure GW gave up in general after 2e

>>96397123
Hedonites will get something once slaanesh is let loose from the cbt cage but without the torture.
I think all they really want is a mortal hero rider anyways, plus some refreshed demons.

>>96397119
I'd bet my bottom dollar we'll be getting the 2e stormcasts back at some point just in thincast variants. GW can literally just primaris shit they already made that's relatively new. Means they don't really need new ideas just new designs for the same old shit.

If anything I expect them to come back with like, bare arms showing to show they're still working on keeping stormcast human or some shit and are the more "monk" type alternative.

>>96396454
I just found out apparently some psychopath called Malekith by Malerion in the old world which is confusing the fuck out of me. Was that just a typo or is some asshole trying to retcon this shit.

>>96397081
why would you say "even GW" as if they don't directly know more than anyone that space marines outsell every single other thing they make by 20x.

>>96397158
I kinda hope sacrosanct have less armor and more robes.
Also that they chaperone stormgheists.

>>96397166
They retconned his name to Malerion in TOW iirc

>>96397151
no one wants them to make new daemonettes until this no fun tranny prude era is over with.

>>96397062
Oh thanks anon. Is it the same guy though?

>>96397166
malekith didn't change his name to malerion during the age of myth, he was simply retconned to have been named malerion all along and the aos books were simply the first publications were that retcon was carried out.
it's dumb, yes.

but then again his father was aenarion and his brother was called morelion, so malerion is not a bad name, but malekith just sounded properly edgier

>>96397196
Can't guarantee it's the same guy but he has funny swooshy hair and is an Evocator! So about as close as you can ask for in some cases!

>>96397166
GW does not want to get sued by Disney.

>>96397182
I'd enjoy that, I dug the look of the ballista guys and thinking of stormcasts with robes and minimal armor to try and imply more wizard/monk vibes would be great. I'm still keeping all of mine because that's the primary chunk of stormcast I got and the legacy rules ain't too shabby. (I want to continue to have an ass shooting stormcast list with those dumb rocket launcher crossbows and machine gun turrets)

I say give it... Maybe 2 editions and we'll basically see Soul Wars 2 with big NH wave and Sacrosancts return.

>>96397143
>maybe they get their own chaos warriors too
Huh? You mean Painbringers/Twinsouls?

>>96397305
Nta but I always kinda though of them as chosen equivalents, kinda like blightkings and the end times khorne guys.

>>96397353
Eh one variant is more of a warrior equivalent the others kinda elite.

>>96397305
those are the slaanesh chosen. twinsouls mirrored wrathmongers in their rules.

>>96396324
kino
fuck rats
Also fuck that ironclad looks massive. Is the whole vehicles are half their actual size on the tabletop shtick also a thing in aos?

>>96397783
if an ironclad were scale it would be over 2 and half feet long.

>>96397783
>>96397811
Does that apply to monster too?
Some art for the leviadon and shaerk shows them at like 5x their tt size but that might just be artistic license

>>96397885
Scale tends to be somewhat vague when it comes to most things GW.

>>96397926
Yeah I was thinking the same thing while I was assembling the model for Alarielle yesterday and thought to myself, man I want to have her sit her giant ass on my fa-

What were we talking about.

>>96396647
It's been 10 years...

Newfag getting into AoS as a skaven player

Been reading the rulebook and now the army book and i have some questions for anons that are already into it way more

1) Skaven army can be mixed clans but is highly not recommended compared to each clans powers?

2) I bought 2 weapon team, does that mean i can't use the other if my skaven aren't Skyre?

3) What hero is usually recommended? Interested in Death master and Engineer. Galvaneer i have never seen players use him

>>96397811
where's the forgeworld team when you need them. Instead we got a khorne dragon for some fucking reason.

I wonder why bl doesn’t just dedicate a series or two on the realms one by one. Like dedicate a omnibus for aqshy, then ghyran, etc etc.

>>96398120
because they have no idea on what to put in it, because bl writers are slop writers, not worldbuilders, and because it wouldn't sell as much as some drama tie in with the horus heresy or some special character model release

>>96398120
I'd pay good money for a coffee table esque companion book focused on the 8th realms, fleshing out the worldbuilding and showing off the major locations. I know the core rulebook kind of does this, but maybe more tightly focused (and purely fluff of course)

>>96398224
Would've been a nice thing to do for the 10th anniversary. Surely there's enough art at this point to do a visions style coffee table book

>>96398224
A warcraft chronicles type history and fluff book that just kinda runs down all the lore and bits and history of the realms could sell pretty decently. Just toss a cool coin in with the book and sell a little circle to hold all the coins and you can make infinite money and actually help people understand the fucking realms.

>>96395843
WHO DO YOU VOODOO BITCH

>>96395167
There's a reason people jumped all over it as a Chaplain conversion. He looks more like a Chaplain than half the models currently available.

>>96394757
>what if instead of just visually ripping off space marines, their entire backstory was basically the same
this writing is so ass I would believe it. The big problem with stormcast is the models are so samey that at the very least having other subfactions opens up new color schemes. What we really need is more varied armor designs.

Now that the dust has settled, why did Skaventide flop?

>>96394259
I feel like he'd be more at home with a vampire head conversion. He looks more like a comic book villain than a necromancer. At least a vampire would make sense to walk around looking like this.

>>96397113
I'd enjoy a starter set of 2 weird armys, I feel like AOS could get away with it more than 40k because the model ranges have enough cool shit all around. As long as you have a "good guy" and a "bad guy" I feel like you're set.

>>96398311
because you misread the sales numbers

>>96394527
harpoons fit the entire "navy deep sea diver but in the sky" aesthetic better.

>>96398311
AoS has never really had a successful “ starter “ box. But yes. Dominion and especially Skaventide sold very poorly. Turns out people like the idea of Skaven more than actually buying Skaven.

Anyone do any sort of bronze on their models? I'm thinking I want to go for a dark, weathered bronze with Warplock as a base, but I haven't seen it in use.

>>96398334
If it came with rattling gunners instead of Jezzails sales would be through the roof, all I'm sayin'.

>>96398311
I don't think Skaven have the same threat as the concept of death or even beastial moods

>>96398334
They're a horde army but 40 clanrats is just kind of a rough sell imo

>>96398311
Despite being a generously packed bundle—boasting 24 Stormcast and 50 Skaven miniatures, terrain, two-sided boards, rulebooks, cards, and more—the Skaventide box's high price point significantly dampened its sales appeal. Both reviewers and players cited its steep cost: around £160 or approximately $265 USD, making it one of Games Workshop’s most expensive launch sets ever. Many potential buyers found the price prohibitive, especially amid tight personal finances and lingering economic uncertainty
Spikey Bits
FauxHammer
RuneBrush's Blog
. Even though the box held exceptional value for those fully committed, the upfront cost was a major barrier for newcomers and budget-conscious hobbyists
techraptor.net
RuneBrush's Blog
.
Compounding the pricing issue were community dynamics and market context. The release arrived during a fragmented period for Age of Sigmar: some players were hesitant due to the release of Warhammer: The Old World, while others remained skeptical after the underwhelming reception of the previous Dominion starter set
Spikey Bits
+1
. Additionally, the buzz and excitement that characterized Warhammer 40k’s launch events did not carry over to Skaventide. Previews were delayed, and the marketing failed to generate the same level of excitement, contributing to waning enthusiasm
Spikey Bits
RuneBrush's Blog
. Even though the box offered substantial content, the combination of timing, broken hype, and divided player interest led to sales stalling shortly after an initial burst
The Grand Alliance Community
.
Let me know if you'd like insights on how this impacted GW’s broader strategy or comparisons with other launch boxes!

Oh so now we’re just using gpt

>>96398428
You're really going to be so fucking pathetic as to have a chatbot write your posts for you?

>>96398438
It seems silly because it's typically a pretty straight forward answer, GW made too many, you can just buy the minis secondhand from someone else for cheaper and not need to buy 2 armys you may not want.

Stormcast don't have the same appeal as space marines even if they're cool, 40 clan rats sounds miserable to paint, the giant gattling cannon isn't what people knew about (people wanted rattling gunners which just came out later) like Dominion they made too many and so they'll just sit there because it's a niche expensive purchase that isn't gonna sell super big because it's the less popular variant of Warhammer and people still have no clue what AOS is even about.

>Kragnos
>Kruleboyz
>Gitmob
Why do they keep putting out these tone-deaf misfires for Destruction?

>>96398498
Totally organic

>>96398518
anon are you implying i'm the same guy posting all the above shit or a robot? Come on now.

>>96398524
Anyone who doesn’t push toxic positivity here is held as an anti shill by some peeps here.

>in 2022 shitposters would waste 30 minuts of their time doing captchas to spam
>in 2025 shitposters can't even be bothered to write their spam posts themselves
What a fucking downfall

Hey anons, I got my Alarielle built (not my best work but I can save it in the painting stage...)

I've already got Drycha and the Lady of Vines, I got a bunch of treelords thanks to Stormbringer. Are any other heroes or units worth slapping onto a list for Sylvaneth? I know Belthanos is supposedly good but anything else OTHER than him since he seems an obvious pick.

CAPTCHA 0AK44

>>96398503
kruleboys and gitmob are born out of the autistic necessity of dualities
>we had gorky orcs/moon gobs, and those are good, which means we now need morky orcs/sun gobs, and those will surely be good

>>96398541
Making it too obvious

>>96398605
Meds anon.

>>96398341
Not a lot of bronze in aos, I guess some of the kharadron metals come close? I think you'll have to look at some 40k stuff to see bronze executed on a mini. I think one of the minir marine chapters has a bronze theme going on iirc.
>>96398428
This is gpt and whatever but I do think the starter boxes are getting a bit steep. Even split down the middle it's a big ask for someone not fully committed, I feel like they're a hard sell for a mom walking into a gw store looking to buy her kid some warhammer. Same with the two tow boxes, great value but it's going to be out if budget for somebody not already convinced to buy into the game. Feel like they should scale down a bit with the 5th edition box. But what the fuck do I know.

>>96398046
>1) Skaven army can be mixed clans but is highly not recommended compared to each clans powers?
You are heavily encouraged to be mixed clan. You need Clanrats for most intents and purposes, and since Skryre got all their wizards gutted you might want a Grey Seer to be able to cast.
>2) I bought 2 weapon team, does that mean i can't use the other if my skaven aren't Skyre?
You can only have one skryre weapon team in a regiment that isn't lead by a skryre hero. So if you have an engineer leading the regiment, you can have more than one, but otherwise it's capped at one and you'll need another regiment to take more.
>3) What hero is usually recommended? Interested in Death master and Engineer. Galvaneer i have never seen players use him
Engineer vs. Galvaneer boils down to if you're taking Jezzails or Warpvolt Scourgers, respectively, since they only buff those units. If you're taking neither you might as well go for an Arch-Warlock since his buff is generic.

>>96398666
>Same with the two tow boxes, great value but it's going to be out of budget for somebody not already convinced to buy into the game. Feel like they should scale down a bit with the 5th edition box.
GW’s in a bit of a tough spot with choosing the boxes. Do they keep the big giga value boxes for edition launches but risk exactly what you said or do they start trimming down the launch boxes in favor of making them spearhead specifically? Because previously the boxes had no gameplay direction except for included battleplans. Soul Wars was probably the worst with its uneven unit sizes. It’s a tough situation that I think even GW has trouble figuring out what to do. For a rando like me it would make sense to do just 2 launch boxes. One, really, truly, but abundantly enough limited mega value box for superfans, and a more mass-printed spearhead launch box. I can’t toss out numbers of boxes for the mega set, but it clearly needs to be around 30-50% of what Skaventide and Dominion were considering how easy they are to find.

So Rob spilled a little about Chorfs this morning (he has seen the entire book)
Apparently they are a bit shit, you generate 'demonic power points' and you have to use them to 'power up' your units, without being empowered the units are pretty mediocre (he mentions the heroes not having a Ward, or the bull centaurs not getting charge bonuses, or the blunderbussy having no rend).
He is a pretty HARD Chorf stand and he was kinda depressing.
Has anyone else heard anything?

>>96398341

my cities of cathay army uses a lot of bronze, but its a lighter more polished bronze

>>96398369
Do wonder what would have been better to add instead of 20 clanrats?

Monks? Stormvermin?

>>96398053
Forgeworld is 150% dead anon. They're Specialist Games now and they only make models for their own games.

>>96398770
Not yet, but a new battletome being disappointing has become the norm for 4e.

>>96398787
>>Monks? Stormvermin

Stormvermin, not even a question. Instead of Rogres I would have had, 10 stormvermin, 20 clan rats, keep the guns, replace the Warlock Engineer with a Rat-ogre bodyguard for the wizard because people know who Thanquol is and they can pretend with that.

Shit would have been way more hype.

>>96398793
New units being weak has been normal for the last like 7 years.

>>96398770
At this point the least surprising thing in the world is GW releasing another crappy battletome for 4E.

>>96398793
KO is arguably too strong. Khorne is obviously too strong. This isn't even true.

>>96398682
Thanks for the easy to understand info anon

No wonder why Galvaneer is never used since i also never see the scourgers around

>>96398776
Clean af anon, whats the paints/shades you used for the giant? Makes it look like clay

>>96398834
what are they even going to do at this points?

ships are 300-500pts each, infantry are 30-40pts a model except for arkanauts. like, a full army has already been reduced to 2-3 boats and 20-30 infantry, you cant make the armies any smaller, they are practically playing with a spearheads worth of models as it is and calling it an army.

>>96398834
Strong =/= enjoyable. Khorne is propped up by the AoR which is clearly busted but the concept is actually novel and fun. The rules are just overtuned. Which is something the devs should’ve considered when making it because the last time someone made an army with nothing but heroes, Grimwrath Bersekers, it cleaned fucking house at a 2-day and got emergency nerfed. I admittedly don’t know much about how KO is doing besides the RoR being good and apparently their melee is strong, which is not what you think when you read the tin for KO. Granted, I only mentioned “disappointing” and didn’t really define it, so that’s on me.

>>96398885
You don't think anything in this game is enjoyable regardless, moot point. The original discussion was in regard to chorfs powerlevel anyway.

>>96398841
thanks, for the brass its vallejo metal color air copper-->proacryl flesh shade thinned with water 50/50-->drybrush gehenna gold from citadel, though on the recommendation of another anon i have since tried proacryls rich gold and its basically the same color as gehenna, but better consistency, cheaper price, dropper bottle with mixing ball and more paint per bottle, so i'd recommend it over gehenna if you can get it.

for the jade inlays its proacryl 50/50 jade and primary green mix-->drybrush primary green--> progressive drybrushes of primary green mixed with increasing amounts of PA bright ivory. i think i might have hit the jade with a thinned down shade before the drybrushing to bring back the cracks, but i dont remember.

the sentinel model has a lot of natural texture so it handles shades and drybrushes very well.

>>96398855
more like 50 infantry unless they're spamming balloons. That isn't atypical compared to other elite armies.

>>96398761
They kind of have multiple launch boxes already, in addition to skaventide there's like 3 tiers of "start here" boxes. But yeah with the succes of spearhead I could see them making the next starter set essentially a dual spearhead box. Probably on the beefier side like yndrasta's spearhead, around a 1000 points each (it's still a starter box after all). I'd be more interested in that size box personally, but again yeah I don't really know the details of gw's financials and what's optimal and everything. Maybe this is copium but I think you'd almost want your starter box to not be sold out immediately and have an easy way for beginners to buy into your game all edition long.
>>96398770
Powering up specific units through the demon whatever does sound pretty cool conceptually and could add a good bit of strategic depth. I wonder what went wrong for rob then, are the rest of the rules just unfun garbage?
>>96398805
I woulda kept the ogres and gotten rid of one of the skaven extra heroes and 20 clanrats for some stormvermin.

>>96398932
>50 infantry

doubt. unless someones already painted up 30+ vongrim guys. those are cheap enough to spam i guess and dont need a transport, but the rest of the army you're looking at like 20 arkanauts+ironclad +hero is 900pts. 12 wardens+frigate+brokk is like 800pts. idk where you're getting 50 infantry from.

>>96398973
>I woulda kept the ogres and gotten rid of one of the skaven extra heroes and 20 clanrats for some stormvermin.

Maybe drop the mounted skaven guy, but GW seems to be intent on having "MOUNTED HERO GUY" for every new box.

>>96398973
The 40K Ultimate Starter is already just 2 Combat Patrols, no way AoS doesn’t follow suit in the future

>>96398999
you can easily play 30 arko, 10 thunderers, 10 salvagers.

>>96398341
I use warplock on some of my dg. It's a strange paint. Separates very quickly and I find it doesn't age very well in the pot unless you're using and shaking it frequently. That said it's got very good coverage if you don't over thin it and is really nice and glossy. Looks great with a runelord highlight(another weird paint prone to separating) and a seraphim wash

>>96398793
FEC are fine, KO and Khorne have extremely strong builds (probably IDK as well).
Boring yes but still mechanically powerful.

>>96399161
IDK’s being propped up by the seasonal Shark subfaction. Iirc, Akhelian Beastmasters lists are running like 7-10% lower WR.

-order
>draconith-skywing
>crone seer’s pariahs
>lofnirs droth keepers
-chaos
>Baleful lords
>legion of the first prince
>thaquols mutated menagerie
-death
>all of the soulblight aors
-destruction
>Grunta stampede
>gitmob
>king brodds stomp
I kinda wanna redo a handful of these aors and maybe test them out on tts. Maybe when I’m not busy with college shit though…

>>96399021
True, only khul managed to escape this fate. He got a pitbull to deal with in exchange though.

>>96399237
I feel like Harbinger of Decay being so popular has doomed us to this fate for eternity.

>>96399255
That faggot on TGA apparently said they are getting a huge re release so I wouldn't abandon hope

>>96398770
Based GW trying to outdo the Gitmob flop. We have confirmed uglier models, now potentially just as bad rules!

>>96399237
While saying this I realised I completely forgot about yndrasta, though she's got her wings at least.
Also what the fuck why is the mounted kb guy like twice the size of his underlings. I know bosses get pretty big but damn. Is it just a trick of perspective or whats going on here.
>>96399255
Absolute banger of a sculpt to be fair

>>96399263
Whomst? So I can go search for what was said

>>96399279
I like the gobbo riding the big wolf, I painted him recently and he was a fun model.

>>96399290
Gitmob models are amazing. But they still flopped because of shit rules. Chorf models are ugly and the rules are bad. This is going to be far worse.

>>96399279
im glad i sprung for the miao ying preorder instead of saving for the chorfs.

i got burned bad twice on thekruleboyz 3e launch and then most recently on the gitmob release, bought in hard on both before i saw the rules. the models are cool but the army is borderline unplayable, even after multiple consecutive patches and emergency fixes of buffs

i used to be part of the "rules are temporary, models are forever" crowd, but spending half a decade with shit rules isnt a good time.

>>96399263
>said they are getting a huge re release
no he didn't

he suggested nurgle would be getting some love
then people hyped each other about potential releases and number of releases
one dude said that a release containing one pity hero, one unit, and spells, would be a mediocre nurgle release
the rumormonger then replied to him calling it a magnificent nurgle release
and now retards are assuming the only potential interpretation of the rumorfaggot's words is that the nurgle release must be bigger than that

btw, he was the same fag who said idoneth would get a big release with 4 units

>>96399336
>idoneth would get a big release with 4 units
But didn't they get four units?

>>96399306
It's a shame they flopped and aren't even clearance or cheap because GW price shittery. Basically no secondhand market either because gits players didn't even buy them.

How much longer until the mudcore arc is over?

>>96399345
One generic hero with 2 weapon options
One (named or generic I have no clue) Wizard
An endless spell

>>96399371
once the second release for CoS happens.

>>96399345
exactly, the point is that people blow way out of proportion everything the guy says, so the assumption at the time was that obviously that "4 units" meant 4 separate big kits, and not hero blisters or spells or whatever

>>96399381
That's four warscrolls for four units.

>>96399286
White Faggot

>>96399403
I mean that is technically true but also a bit less exciting when you're told it's gonna be a big release and the models are, 2 foot heroes, and a Krondspine alternative only one faction can use.

>>96399290
Don't care much for gitmob but this fatass is calling my name
>>96399327
Kruleboyz are great now ironically enough. But yeah the "gw makes new stuff op on purpose" saying definitely doesn't hold true for aos.
>>96399336
I do think people are kind of overhyping whitefangs remarks yeah. We've known about pestigors being in the cards for a while, but beyond spells/terrain/pity hero I don't think we'll see much, maybe a plaguebearer refresh at best. KO style release seems likely imo.

So is the entire Nurgle speculation from him just saying ‘ho ho ho Nurgle loves everyone’? That just tells me nurgle *something* by Christmas at bare minimum

>>96399436
Wait that post was made right before Christmas last year lol tf is there to base any speculation on?

>>96399281
He's a boss they're bigger, that's always been part of orcs. He's the same size as the foot killaboss.

>>96399124
I may just go with Two THin Coats version of Castellax. It can get suitably dark with a good wash and I imagine the formula is a bit better from the newer paint.

>>96399306
>please, please, please floooop, plueeezzee. I'm so invested in this, midge are rent free in my empty ass head.
lol, faggot. Get a life.

>>96399021
>>96399237
>everyone getting cavalry heroes except hedonites
>fucking skaven got a cavalry hero before hedonites
this world is so fucked up and insane

So were beasts of chaos ever a rival for sylvaneth? I mean, it was kinda weird they were titled as eternal rivals in fantasy battle as it is, so im just curious if that ever got revisited in any of the fluff here.

>>96399541
They were the fodder for Alarielle leading into 4e. They were assaulting the Oak of Ages Past and she fought them off and revived the Oak with the Rite of Life.

>>96398559
you've already got a lot of points of heroes, work on units for awhile. We're getting a balance slate next month so whatever is good now could be flipped around by the time you've got it painted. So just pick whatever units you think look cool

>>96399541
The parallels between how they embody nature were brought up a few times
Also what the other guy said — they were the main force trying to stop Alarielle's Rite of Life (and considering how much shit got fucked up because of it, they were the good guys in that battle)
Most recently a combined force of Sylvaneth and Lumineth liquidated the BoC presence in Witherdwell and totally definitely aborted Morghur for sure this time (spoilers they didn't)

>>96399541
Nurgle kind of took their spot as the main rival to the treehuggers. They do appear as enemies here and there though, I believe in the little fluff piece that is supposed to explain their disappearance from the game it's the sylvaneth and lumineth teaming up to destroy the morghurpool.

Yup I still can’t decide on stuff

The Radiant Blight 1960/2000 pts
Grand Alliance Chaos | Maggotkin of Nurgle | Plague Cyst
General's Handbook 2025-26
Drops: 4
Spell Lore - Lore of Malignance
Prayer Lore - Bendictions of Sickness
Manifestation Lore - Krondspine Incarnate (20 Points)
-----
General's Regiment
Orghotts Daemonspew (280)
• General
Putrid Blightkings (380)
• Reinforced
Putrid Blightkings (380)
• Reinforced
---
Regiment 1
Bloab Rotspawned (300)
Pusgoyle Blightlords (220)
---
Regiment 2
Rotbringer Sorcerer (120)
-----
Regiments of Renown
Godmarked Ascendant (260)
Daemon Prince
• Wings
• Corpulent Avalanche
• Rustfang

>>96399606
>Rite of Life caused Incarnates to manifest, Kragnos to be freed (emboldening the Kruleboyz), Trugg to wake up, and Vizzik to manifest
We did it, Grand Alliance Order! We saved the realms!

Isn't it usually a bad sign when something is online only?

>>96399682
I hate his weapon
It's like they combined an axe and warscythe in a way that eliminates the cool parts of both

>>96399682
No?

Here is why Skaventide failed:
>It's not 40k

>>96399672
Alarielle had a woman moment
>>96399722
I like it desu, passes the rule of cool for me. I'm not a weapons autist so I have no idea how viable it would be but I guess it's based on these chinese polearm thingies, like the ones cathay have.

>>96399682
GW been forcing most things as online only, so not really. Just more attempted chokehold on the market.

>>96399682
Like 70% of everything is online only these days so not really.

>>96392771
I was going to just cut them completely out and maybe use a small amount of sand and glue to try and grout between them. I'll try the 1.5 mm. It should work out fine either way.

How does bronze plate armor with iron chainmail sound? I know it makes no sense, but is it too stupid or just stupid enough?

>>96399956
rule of cool always trumps realism, if it looks good, go for it

>>96400036
Based and correct take

I have two questions.

1 - What will the new Age of Sigmar series premiering this September be about?

2 - In the second season of Blacktalan, I saw that Chaos Warriors can now also be reforged like Stormcasts. Is this canon or is it an invention of the series?

>>96400298
>Chaos Warriors can now also be reforged like Stormcasts
This guy's lore is that he was a champion of nurgle before being cleansed of corruption
>What will the new Age of Sigmar series premiering this September be about?
Not really in the loop, but everything GW has shown is a couple frames of skaven and Stormcasts? noone knows yet

>>96400312
Sorry, but I was wrong. I meant that the Chaos Warriors resurrect when they die, like the Stormcast, apparently by Belakor.

>>96400036
>>96400275
Cool. Some sort of ensorcelled or blessed bronze or whatever.

>>96399306
One can hope. Maybe gw will stop adding more half baked armies and finally go back and fix the half baked shit ones instead.

>>96400358
Chaos magic, GW doesnt have to explain shit

>>96400358
There’s only one person that belakor can bring back and he uses the souls of other trapped storm casts to bring him back.
The chaos gods can also bring back chaos pawns whenever they want, but that’s true in any of the warhammer settings.

>>96400298
>Is this canon or is it an invention of the series?
That was Eternus's gimmick before

>>96399682
The real big models tend to be Online Only, I suppose this qualified

>>96400713
>>96400713
>>96383032
>>96400713