Thread 96400713

Your Tzeentch-Mandated GF Edition

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>96386676

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>Thread question
A few threads ago I aksed what you imagined civilian life was life for your faction, now can you describe what you imagine food/rations is/are like for your faction's military.

>TQ
Well they don’t like to use flames so they can’t really eat meat. So fish, beans, maybe the occasional heart as a treat.

So now that the dust has settled why did Helsmiths of Hashut flop?

>>96400775
Slow reflexes and imperfect form (this is a diving joke, a sport literally no one has ever given a shit about)

>>96400775
Shortsighted release

>>96400775
Tall hats

>>96400775
An aesthetic redesign no one asked for.

>>96400775
Joke answer: They forgot to make their chaos faction look like a chaos faction
Actual answer: They were too worried about stepping on the toes of other armies to the point of sacrificing a good bit of their old appeal

>>96400996
falling for the bait when we havent even seen their full model line, and they're broadly liked, is powerful behavior

>>96401053
I was responding to it as "why do you not like HoH" and ignoring the actual question since questions of popularity/success don't interest me

>>96400775
Didn't come with complimentary tallhats to wear

I do have to wonder if the shoulder pads are just bits for the helsmiths. Its my only gripe, and I have to wonder how they look without it

i like the chorfs and will buy them but i think the blood bowl models are a better modern adaptation

>>96401123
Mmm, I guess I can appreciate the skulls on the beards. But I think it kinda executes on the armor worse.
Also wow the tusks are small here too. I guess they’re compensating with the horn? Still, odd that gw can make em bigger.

>TQ
Whoever dies in their sleep is breakfast.
Whoever dies during breakfast is lunch.
Whoever dies during lunch is dinner.
Whoever dies during dinner is bedtime snack.

>>96401138
the AoS chorfs just look a bit more rushed in their design. a bit of a sloppy, almost unfinished energy to them.

I’m surprised GW never really leaned into the sexy Vampire trope outside of the Coven Throne

>>96401138
To be fair, Blood Bowl armor is American Footbal but Warhammer gear

>>96401200
ah well yeah I guess when its looked at that light I can excuse it. explains the insane shotgunner too.
>>96401193
They almost tried it with the lahmian hero but the face just ruins it. helmet too but I do find a different charm in it.

>>96401169
I think they're just not trying to be an updated version of chorfs, and instead trying to take the idea and do something a little different with it like the other monogod faction updates did. They're more brutalist and less flashy to better lean into their whole deal, where visions of their concept like TW:WH are a lot more cluttered with details, so in comparison they feel less fancy

>>96401231
While I am generally a proponent of clean looks on chaos aligned models being incongruous with chaos' schtick, for the chorfs a simple, clean, and most importantly, efficent looking design is more in line with their lore. One of the key aspects of their lore is their brutal industry, and to be frank, making things look aesthetically pleasing or even interesting is kinda a nonconcern from that angle. While I will concede that they have to make the models look interesting SOMEHOW for them to sell, a simple, Brutalist design where things have minimal decoration and look solely designed to inflict the maximum amount of suffering possible is what Chorfs SHOULD have. Fancy detailing wastes material and man hours that could be better put to use making something actually useful. Though of course the people at the top of the totem pole are an exception.

>>96401263
If I had to say the main reason for them looking how they do, I imagine a lot of the design language for chorfs from the old designs kinda clashes with a lot of the general chaos or Khorne look. I reckon they probably wanted them to be more their own thing, so more Hexagons and dwarfy bits as opposed to the usual plating and typical style they would share in fantasy.

On top of that I'm gonna guess they probably have the goofy looking giant guns (first the pose sucks because they were probably designed for flamethrowers first, blunderbusses second) and all of the other bits because they didn't want to have the simpler old designs. It's meant to be like "fancy fantasy tech" which I think mostly just looks shit because the colors they chose suck. After having seen stuff in more traditional chorf colors of blacks, reds, and golds I feel like they look pretty good.

>>96400713 (OP)
I would really like to see a book from the Bonereapers perspective. We've gotten a few short stories but a kind of Alexander the Great journey through the mortal realms with just these kinda odd bonemen and their interactions with different factions would be really cool.

Out of all the Death factions they seem the most human oddly enough.

>>96401193
How about the sexy necromancer?

>>96401291
>Out of all the Death factions they seem the most human oddly enough.
well, for the most part thats what they are. Even the horses. Granted they're supposed to be psychopaths.
I'd really like to see a case where two souls are forced to share an odd skelleboddy and be forced to make their situation work.

>>96401263
My problem with this justification is that it's just demonstrably wrong. HoH have stuff like jeweled beards, headdresses, and hilariously ineffective decorative glaives. They're not in the least bit pragmatic or utilitarian in design.

>>96401315
It's a pipe dream since GW barely puts out black library stuff for AOS, let alone a niche topic from "the bad guys" point of view.

We got an Ushorann book where half is big Ush the other half is a bunch of nobodies.

>>96401359
Now that you mention it BL really has been...conservative with their books lately. Its mostly 40k or HH, I cant remember the last time necrocum or tow got a book too.

>>96401282
Yeah, the colors can make or break a model, and GW does have a track record of accidentally making their models look worse due to color choice *cough cough* Ironjawz *cough*

>>96401200
I thought they were rugby.

>>96401417
I imagine they wanted to differentiate them from the chorfs to kinda show they were their own thing. But realistically you're not gonna sell it to nerds outside of Warhammer, you're trying to sell to people who want chorfs.

>>96401359
The Abraxia novel about her ruling over the chaos rabble thatve inhabited the ruins of the phoenicium came out like two weeks ago and had two Seraphon novellas shoot out in quick succession earlier in the year

>>96401423
Not with Naggaroth being multi-time champions

>>96400713 (OP)
>Thread question:A few threads ago I aksed what you imagined civilian life was life for your faction, now can you describe what you imagine food/rations is/are like for your faction's military.
Grilled mushrooms and squig chops served alongside oversized flagons of mushroom ale

>>96401514
Imagine being the git with a mushroom allergy.

>>96401620
Happens from time to time, but they're still of some use to the krew

>>96400713 (OP)
The hell's Warhammer Fantasy General?
I managed to get a warhammer and Barrakul done

>>96401712
The people in your general only know how to make bait threads and necro bump them.
Anyways nice mini from I can tell

Can anyone toss me a link to the audiobook of Covens of Blood? Or Beastgrave plz and thank you.

>>96401876
I only have the pdf for covens man. Sorry.

>>96401842
The necro thing is realy sad. You see 10 reply shit getting a post after 1,5 days of no activity

I wonder if we'll ever see the old High Elf vs Dark Elf rivalry in AoS. We already know Tyrion is testing Malerion's borders, and there's certainly no love between either of the Twins and Morathi so I do wonder if we'll ever see the Lumineth and DoK or Ulgurothi beat the shit out of each other someday.

>>96401882
Dang, I want some femdom DoK shit to listen to during the drive to work.

>>96401712
How are you going to paint him, my condolences that nobody in your general knows how to OP

>>96401893
I just want more models like mistweaver said reeee

>>96401941
If Malerion's army looks like this it'll be awesome.

>>96401893
To be fair, even all the way back in 2020 in the first ever Lumineth Battletome Malerion was up to some shit, kidnapping Lumineth and being a sneaky bitch.

what's the website that posts recent event lists for AoS and 40k? it's not Bestcoastpairings or goonhammer, I forgot the name.


Also I've been seeing on goonhammer that there's a lot of Nurgle armies with loads of blightkings and running pague cyst. how do they win the game exactly?

>>96402037
Woehammer? Also I’m not really sure either. Last I checked priests and rotigus were the only things that stood out. Kinda weird, priests were such a nothing thing for maggotkin for…ever?

>>96401712
>Barrakul
You doing The Enemy Within then?

Warcry mentioned

!!!WARCRY LIVES!!!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/r8cdyjiv/a-massive-warcry-update-paves-the-way-for-the-helsmiths-of-hashut/

>>96402143
Wow, faggots here once again turned out to be histeric retards

>>96402143
Huh nice. Hollow king being playable is a big and nice surprise for me as well.

>>96402143
Didn't expect to get all the Underworlds stuff plus Skaventide in Warcry. And for free to, nice surprise, which is rare for GW.

>>96402176
radio silence for a year is unusual, they've even admitted as much by addressing how much was excluded from this update
I'm looking forward to UW conversions and Gitmob

>>96402197
I can't wait to get Grandfather's Gardeners on the table outside of Underworlds. Models are too nice to use only in one game.

>>96402143
Some of the new units seem very and get some interesting rules. Didn't expect the Knives of the Crone to get any sort of prophecy mechanics for example.

>>96402143
>can finally run him in a game with noble hawks (felbats)
Too bad the Cursed City swarms don't have Warcry rules

>>96401893
Isn't there some bullshit lorewise where malerion and tyrion can't enter each other's realms or something?
>>96401941
>>96401944
Personally I'd like to see some stuff reminiscent of picrel. Always liked the guy, but outside of mayyybe witch elves he stands out from the other elf designs.
>>96402143
Well well well

>>96402143
>a-massive-warcry-update-paves-the-way-for-the-helsmiths-of-hashut
Aren't they forgetting something?

>>96402271
Those already had rules. Also oop

>>96402275
Maybe they shouldn't be OOP when paving the way for Hashut

>>96402278
They would brutally mog the rest of the range, so they're not allowed to exist.

Does anyone know what, if any, difference there is between AK Interactive's regular terrain and their wargame terrain? The place I'm shopping is out of stock for the regular terrain snow but they have the wargame version, which is pretty significantly more expensive per ml. $11 for 250 ml vs $8 for 100 ml.
I suspect it's just the average "gamer markup", but maybe there's some difference.

>>96400713 (OP)
>A few threads ago I aksed what you imagined civilian life was life for your faction, now can you describe what you imagine food/rations is/are like for your faction's military.
I play Troll Horde. Rations are Wednesday is to slow or dead to stay out of arm's length. Dead bodies, captured livestock, random objects that have been stuck in a sack, rocks.
Pic related, Girtha sharing a dead cow she found with Gill, Finn and Chips.

>>96402386
>picrel
Good lord anon

fuck the haters that's how trolls should look like

>>96402399
What?

>>96402143
Based.
Warcry is a phenomenal game

>>96402143
Odd they decided to support it when a new edition is due by all accounts. Maybe we'll just roll into a second term of 3rd edition instead

>>96402245
Yep. Neither god can enter the Realm of the other.
Good thing they've both got vast armies to fight for them isn't it?

>>96402245
>Isn't there some bullshit lorewise where malerion and tyrion can't enter each other's realms or something?

Yeah, the magics of hysh and ulgu are so fundamentally opposed that entering the opposite realm starts to tear them apart. That’s why Teclis and Malerion are doing border skirmishes trying to find some other way to enter each other’s realms and actually invade it, like that giant pit of used up aetherquartz that seems to be sagging into ulgu.

>>96402433
I'm fine with the current ruleset getting a life extension instead of a full new edition being rolled out. If they want more of my money they could maybe drop some new terrain or something.

>>96401882
Not him.
Can you post a link to it, please?

>>96400713 (OP)
>Tq
>idoneth
Kelp and lots of seafood (obviously) there's mentions of squid, whales, etc.
They also make wine out of some algae. Apparently idoneth aren't too big on exquisite tastes and all, because of slaanesh trauma but they fucking love getting drunk because it dulls the senses.

>>96402463
id say nighthaunt or DoK.
>>96402143
hell yeah.

>>96402463
Dok

>>96402463
Moonclan

>>96400713 (OP)
>TQ
Only the finest of meats for the upper echelons, sauteed to perfection, served on silver platters with a cornucopia of foreign delicacies as side dishes.
Even the commoners eat well for their class. Chicken, pork and sometimes beef for special occasions, topped with mashed turnip, boiled carrots and a garnish of parsley.

>>96402463
>>96402502
Bit too clean for moonclan I'd say.
Didn't one of the previous rumour engines also have a sickle on it? The one that looked like it was hanging off a horse.

>>96402463
sickles have been symbolic for druids for a long time and we have multiple rumor engines related to sylvaneth
but I think in this case we're looking at that one city of sigmar character that became a tree
gw might keep talia vedra as the hammerhal aqsha character and turn that one other gal as the ghyra character

or maybe it's a druid character for cities like the crucible dude is a metal wizard, eventually they must cover multiple mage archetypes again

>>96402386
What are you trying to hide bro?

>>96402560
A jade wizard for CoS could be cool.

>>96402560
>>96402576
We've been getting a lot of nature-y rumour engines lately, so I can see the new CoS wave being themed around ghyran in the same way wave 1 was themed around aqshy. The sickle + staff could be a jade wizard eque deal, similar to what the alchemite warforger is for chamon. It could also be sylvaneth/kurnothi stuff, or maybe a wood elf character for tow. I think they're the only faction in that system without any new miniatures so far.

>>96402560
>turn that one other gal as the ghyra character

>Iscilla Thorian was staggering through the back alleys of Verdigris when she remembered her name.

>Broken memories came back in flashes, each the thump of a spear against blood-sodden earth. She had collapsed. She had seen the Sylvaneth's hunt arrive... no, that had come first. She had awoken alone within the keep. She—

>She could still hear the horns. They blasted beyond the toppled walls. They sent the trees shivering. It was relentless enough that Thorian barely remembered staggering from her chambers, or how her body had broken out in bark-flesh growths that creaked with each step. That Ghyran sought to claim her both body and soul did not penetrate the Marshal's fogged thoughts.

>Enough of Thorian remained to marvel that no one had found her. Something guided her away from Dawners knelt in prayer beneath statues being raised up by lashing vines, or labouring to repair domiciles overgrown with thick and edible-looking moss. The passage of Belthanos and his magic-charged hunt had accelerated Verdigris's rebirth; Thorian felt a stirring reverberation, as Ghyran itself sought to try and heal the city along with its defenders. Somewhere, a flag had been hoisted beneath skies turned black, and a trumpet blasted out, mournful but defiant. It was not the glorious victory anyone had hoped for – but it was victory of a sort.

>For a moment, Thorian felt she ought to aid her people in their labours with her magics. Then the horn blast echoed again. It baffled her that no other seemed able to hear it, nor appeared to see the world through the haze of verdant green that she did. Yet it did not matter. The lord of the hunt demanded her presence. She still had duty to do. And Iscilla Thorian was a woman of duty.

>As Iscilla staggered towards the shattered gates, the light of the moon Kurnalune shone down. They cast the antlers sprouting from her brow into shadowy relief, before she passed back into the gloom

>>96402462
Yeah, I'd just like a starter set. A real long life entry box

Lich model fucking when?
Vampires suck.

>>96402655
u serious?

>>96402679
Are you? Get that shit outta my face.

I want to say something brave and controversial

I think sigmar is a cool guy

>>96402743
End Time was cool.

>>96402655
>>96402686
all you get for now
>>96402743
>>96402748
stunning

>>96402686
you dont deserve your faction. nagash and soulblight are too cool for your shit taste, go play tow or something where grogs blow their load over a peasant in lederhosen covered in mud

>>96402754
Sorry I don't want your giant Skeletor action figure. I want a lich to cast spells for me skellies.

>>96402752
You know this lodel hasn't been in Soulblight for years, right?

>>96402767
and you can't proxy a vampire or a necromancer with your choice of lich model because...?

>>96402462
In hindsight, Underworlds did do a similar thing where it went completely silent for an entire year, and then came back with a new edition. Warcry might be in a similar state, where they are working on the next iteration but don't have anything to show yet.

>>96400713 (OP)
>can you describe what you imagine food/rations is/are like for your faction's military
Between Vampires and Spooky Trees? Blood and Soil.

>>96402754
>faction
>soulblight
>grogs
AoStroon schizo detected.

>>96402863
...where do you think you are anon?

>>96402800
Because I have no cool lich model, what's not to get?

>>96402888
Then go get one, they're all over the place

>>96402912
I want a GW one. And I want a fully fledged out Deathrattle build as well.

>>96402433
Warcry editionjs are not like AoS/40k ones, they doint invalidate everything thats before them

>>96402194
>Skaventide in Warcry
that has been the case since the release of skaventide tho?

>>96402925
>I want a GW one.
Then convert one from gw bits, you cuck.

>>96400775
no artistic vision
woke corporate boardroom design

>>96402957
May you never get the model you want.

>>96402863
what thread do you think you're in?

did some wfg troglodyte accidently trip into the aosg and cant figure out how to get out?

>>96402463
Either Nighthaunt, or Ghyran wizard of some kind

>>96402968
The wfg thread died for a few hours, last posted there linked to this one, so I assume one or two retards didn't realize where they were

>>96402963
I always get the models I want because I go get them, unlike you fag.

>>96402980
Link in the last AoS thread also lead to WHF thread for some reason

>>96402993
Because the op is a mentally ill namefag, of course.

>>96401876
It's on audiobookbay

Anyone here own lotann? Is he as finnicky to assemble as he looks ?

>>96402211
Do you think he sees Ivya as a fellow falconeer woods-woman? Do you think they'll get marrrieeeed?

>>96403098
Yes, and a little. Some of the tentacles can be annoying to fit right, like the knife one, but it’s nothing too bad. He can be assembled to be separate from the ochtar, but the mace tentacle is molded onto Lotann and another attaches at the parchment.

>>96403190
GW vamp faces are so ass

>>96403212
Tbf, Vrykos it makes more sense with since they're all feral wolf people.

>>96403220
It's more so the giant buck teeth, the execution is ass.

>>96403212
eh I think it looks better here.

>>96403223
It's one of those things where I both agree and don't, I get why it's done. These heads are like... the size of a corn kernel so having the giant goofy buck teeth helps with readability. But yeah it does look goofy, even if I do love Ivya. (Not as much as Kritza, he's probably the best vampire GW has put out ever)

>>96403207
I forgot to mention, Meloch’s main attachment point is the mace tentacle going across his back. It’s kinda split, but gluing it, some ‘ardcoat to fill the gap, and correcting the colors should work.

>>96403190
>>96403212
Man, I wish someone would make replacement face STLs for Ivya and Sekhar. I know not all vampires are supposed to look beautiful all the time, but would it kill them to have them look a bit more appealing? Especially with Sekhar, since she is a spawn of Neferata.

It's also bullshit since Kritza and the male vampires like pre-beast Radukar also look pretty damn good. What's the explanation here GW?

>>96403220
abortions as vampires
abortions as werewolves

gw should stop mixing shit

>>96402752
Wonder what they're gonna do for his new model, would be cool to see them just make his old model a generic lich for sbgl but thinking they're replacing the entire kit since mannfred and nef lost their mounts as well. Kinda want to see him as a mini Nagash that has scrolls for every faction or at least lives in obr with an ror for everyone.

>>96402804
Sam pearson left gw and warcry was all him. Think a new game is more likely or they just double down on spearhead.

>>96403309
yeah you're lets just scrap blood lines all togeth-
FUCK YOU

>>96402560
This also matches art from WFRP RPG, so it seems more likely to me it'd be a new wizard for Elementalism in TOW to fit how 3 of the schools got one earlier this year.

>>96400713 (OP)
Newfag here
Why dark elves are in cities of sigmar and not in daughters of khaine?
I've heard cities used to be just leftovers of elves/empire/dwarfs from warhammer fantasy, souped up in one book, but it doesn't make any sense to keep them there anymore

>>96403377
theres alreaady a druid guy there tho, and TOW doesnt have the colleges of magic

>>96403387
DoK males are either husks with all the life force sucked out of them or sex slaves in the breeding pits, But the sroceress, and sorcesress on black dragon make no sense i agree

>>96402679
Ah yes the “Unit that takes around half of your army budget and, rules-wise, is either a paperweight or a must-pick with no in-between.”

>>96403388
>TOW doesnt have the colleges of magic
No, but they released all new models for the new magic "schools" but in resin. For comparison, Tomb Kings got a new Battle Standard Bearer/Royal Herald in Resin in early 2024, but just got a new plastic one announced.
Could be the same here since GW hates Resin for mainline games now.

>>96403387
DoK are a psycho cult of personality and a lot of dark elves don't like it

>>96403395
>or sex slaves in the breeding pits

>>96403395
It would still make some sense to use the thralls as cheap screens. DoK units look kind of fragile
>>96403410
I don't get how it ended up being an Order faction. Morathi worshiped chaos in the old world

>>96403419
They get the warlocks, all the normal Delfs are Dudes and dont look like lifeless thralls

>>96403387
legacy relic of poor decisions made during first edition before they had a plan for the game.

>>96403419
If the GHR appeared to Sigmar and promised the Skaven would only betray him a little if he let them into Order he'd probably have agreed, the guy is desperate for allies at this point

>>96403377
I don't think those 3 engines all belong to the same character
elementalism already got a wizard too

>>96403479
Good point. He even has a sickle.

>>96403479
Tomb Kings already got a resin Royal Herald last year but are getting one in a month or two in plastic. Seems like GW is desperate to phase out all resin, even stuff they just released.

>>96403377
still counting on the staff being a sylvaneth thing

>>96403387
meta reasons with how gw released and compartmentalised its ranges in whfb and early aos
yes, it was dumb, but nowadays aos is decoupling almost completely from the old world, so the other dark elves don't get added to proper aos armies because they're eventually going to get kicked off aos entirely, it's only a matter of time

>>96403479
I dunno if that excludes it still, they've made multiple new tomb kings or new banner bearer, might be they want a non resin wizard kit.

>>96403505
They already have them. They’re just stuck in cities still, weirdly.

>>96403491
TOW cannot possibly phase out all its resins, the business model is built on maintaining old resin/metal moulds and is little more than one year old, they're nowhere close to being in the position to plan phasing out resin, like they can do it with the horus heresy

I think they're instead planning on updating only some specific stuff that's both old and ugly, and tomb kings' liches fit into that category just as well as basic skeletons, but those are clearly for a more important release slot, not as random tie-ins for campaign books

>>96403548
>TOW cannot possibly phase out all its resins
Yeah probably not all, but wizards are pretty important and they're missing a mounted wizard model, so it would be a good time to sweep on it and replace it.
>little more than one year old
The thing again though is that they JUST did this so they are apparently 100% okay with it as crazy as they sounds.
>tomb kings' liches
But it wasn't just the liche, they new BSB which looks great also got replaced.

>>96403419
>Morathi worshiped chaos in the old world
She never worshipped anything but herself (and Aenarion). She only used different cults for her own gains.

>>96403600
>replaced
there's no real indication it's a replacement

tow has 3 separate models for bretonnian battle standard bearers, all new, 2 in resin and one in plastic

>>96403643
Well even if not, it would still show they don't mind making plastic and resin of the same stuff and selling it, so it could easily still be a TOW wizard.
Also another comparison: before the new plastic version, the TK BSB lacked an official mounted option. The resin wizards also lack an official mounted option. Seems like their way of plugging the gap

>>96403207
>>96403237
Thanks for the advice anon, I appreciate it.
Also is that your model? Looks fucking insanely well done, I'm in awe.

>>96403419
Morathi wasn’t a chaos worshipper, her using slaanesh cults was some oldhammer shit that barely existed and did so for much less time than her modern iteration’s whole deal. TW:WH has just mindbroken people into thinking that by randomly giving her access to slaanesh shit

>>96403387
They don’t aesthetically match with the DoK or work with their lore, and their models represent like three different seperate aelf cultures in aos who do all actually fit into the vibe of CoS pretty solidly. Darklings being the mafia is just funny

>>96403671
It is, thanks! Hope to see yours if you get him.

>>96403296
Kritza deserves the best because he's the coolest fucking vampire GW's made. He deserves a standalone book.

>>96402748
Why does everyone in the setting even hate the guy
He’s not even a quarter as bad as that Mongolian fuck in 40k

>>96402463
Looks a little too plain for DoK imo, their stuff tends to be more ornamental.

>>96403711
Most order people outside CoS and Stormcast have somewhere between a neutral and positive view of him, he’s a nice guy

>>96403711
SIGMAR LIED

>>96403711
Nagash hates him because he cribbed his ideas for putting souls into things (also yoinked the good souls and left Nagash with a bunch of lame ass souls), also Nagash is just an asshole who whether he liked him or not was gonna stab him in the back.

>>96403743
Did we ever nail down what he lied about? Was it the memory loss thing, since I figured stormcasts knew. (Unless they forgot the memory loss thing)

>>96403711
because the writers need enemies for him but cannot write proper character motivations to save their lives.

>>96403759
Tbf the other gods are all kind of assholes, Nagash is Nagash, Morathi is Morathi, Gorkamorka just doesn't have time or want to be nailed down to a pantheon, Alarielle just wants to deal with tree based things.

>>96403711
Sigmar is a coward! He promised right propah fights but then left to the big city!

>>96403750
I think it's the idea of the Stormcasts as noble demigod figures without blemish, whereas the reality is that they're tragic figures whose reward for service is decapitation before they go insane
On another level, their role as saviors of the realms is obviously not true and particularly in the wake of vermindoom fucking up everything they've fought to secure

>>96403600
I guess yeah gw has been weird lately with phasing kits out really fast. See also the wight king on steed.
>>96403698
Amazing job anon. I'm looking to get into idk down the line and was just looking over the range and saw him. Sculpt is cool as fuck but looked really complicated. Again thanks for the advice anon.
>>96403750
The whole sigmar lied thing struck me as weird too because I thought them getting storm-ptsd and going crazy was a think since 1st edition. Did I just get baited by someone's headcanon or what's up with that?

Now that the dust has settled, did Sigmar lie?

>>96403711
He kinda ditched everyone to fend themselves to chaos like at the last minute to make stormcasts

>>96403858
That accusation was a lie.

>>96403759
>>96403765
>Hashut:

>>96403037
Not seeded :(

>>96403851
>>96403822
The reforging flaws were a known thing but it wasn’t openly talked about and was sort of a “yeah well that’s fucked up but it’s not that bad yet” was the feeling I got reading realmgate wars books. In fact the earlier reforgings were a bit weird like that one guy who was reforged into a more perfect and complete form after coming to terms with l being a stormcast and his legacy being changed by time

>>96403711
Noone does, if anything he's kind of a sucker that lets assholes get away with too much

>>96403190
>>96403220
Shame about the butterface I'd fuck a wolf satyr vampire hybrid

>>96404037
Listen man, if the face is what stops you from fucking a monster lady I don't know what to tell you.

>>96403948
Before 4e "Sigmar Lied" came off as some horrible, malicious lie
Now it just comes off as an "eto, bleh" lie, a "oh darn I forgot to tell you guys" sorta lie, ya get me? It's not out of malice he's just a retard

>>96403822
That's quite a spin, I'd imagine if I lived in the mortal realms I'd be super thankful for sigmar considering the alternative is a nightmarish afterlifes or a daemons play thing.

>>96404083
>It is even said that after the Great Necromancer fell to the Everchosen at the Battle of Black Skies, the Mortis Blade was recovered by a lowly ghoul serf and religiously tended until the god returned — and the reaped soul of this ‘thief’ now lies chained in the bowels of the fortress of Nagashizzar
precious?

>>96404103
That's why it's a hard sell when people try to compare them to the empire or space marines, Sigmar's just a guy who became a god and carved off a chunk of himself to make mini super warriors to help save everyone. I think there's like... One shitty group of stormcasts, the guys with the Stormwind guard colors are assholes but otherwise most Stormcasts are just kinda good guys.

>>96404106
Nagash really fuckin' hates ghouls, which is ironic because he made them like that.

>>96404119
>which is ironic because he made them like that.
he didn't make ghouls tho? ghouls likely predate vampires and conventional necromancy since they come to be whenever people desecrate graves to cannibalise the bodies and squat in the necropolises, tainting themselves by inadvertently eating the stagnant magic that ends up accumulating in dead bodies.

>>96404190
Didn't he make 'em all crazy since the ghouls affected by madness are kinda chained to Ushorann going nuts for being locked in a tower?

>>96404200
ushorann and his bloodline spread the madness to "natural" ghoul populations and/or to a normal human population which then does the kind of shit that turns them into ghouls, but otherwise ghouls and "ghoul kings" are somewhat separate things
nagash hates ghouls as a general rule because they're not truly undead, they are like a grey area exception because while saturated in death magics, they're still technically just degenerated living beings, unlike vampires and other undead which he can control almost seamlessly (ushorann is again an exception but because he's mad, not because he's a ghoul)

>>96404236
So is Ushorann undead or are all vampires undead or just like... Dark infused living people...? What the hell are the rules here since I know Abhorrants are vampires right (just like Ghoulified vampires)

>>96404272
vampires are properly dead
necromancers and nehekaran liches aren't truly dead

>>96404272
Ghoul = alive
Vampire = dead
Ushorann = alive but brainrotted

>>96404292
When is Arkhan coming back.

>>96404272
Abhorrants = degenerate vampires, undead
Mordants = degenerate mutants, not dead

>>96404297
when he feels the need to get out of the black hole teclis tossed him in

>>96404296
ushoran is a vampire, he's dead

>>96404297
no idea

>>96404327
Is it ever explained how he managed to resurrect in aos? Iirc he was a minor character in fantasy too, the brother of neferata or something like that? Or maybe that was wshuran i don't remember

>>96404365
He's the only actual "friend" to Nagash. So Nagash brought him back because he kinda liked him.

What is the best place to start with the lore of AoS?
The minis look cool but I would like to know more of the fluff.

>>96404427
battletomes, core rule book

>>96404427
Core books

>>96404427
I used to peruse 1d4chan and randomly poke around the garbo wikis. But if you want fun stuff check out pdf's of like Soulbound or the old core books.

>>96404437
Is 1d6 good?

>>96404456
I think it's basically just the old site revived and consistently maintained. I enjoy it!

>>96404456
There's 1d6 and 2d4
1d6 is better

>>96404365
I think aos overlooks how characters came back because it's quite a blatant asspull no matter how they put it

but nagash apparently could bring back a number of vampires and undead servants because their essences are kinda tied to him since they all used his elixir or are a result of it

and his essence is likewise tied to theirs, I think one early novel suggested that nagash couldn't quite resolidify a coherent identity of his own self without doing it with his "non-selves" in a way, so the mortarchs like neferata and manfred and even arkhan were rationalized as anchors and stepping stones in nagash recovering his memories and selfness after the messy affair of the end of the world and his ascension to godhood, which is always schizophrenic when done rapidly and aiming towards elemental godhood, the horned rat too became an even more schizophrenic entity with his rise to power and all the big 4 chaos powers are known to be contradictory in their identities

if nagash didn't take precautions he would end up being a chaotic mixture of all the underworld gods he consumed, instead of himself with all that accumulated power under him
the black pyramid seems to be another important step in separating the power he wields from himself, and the other order gods approach a similar problem differently, guys like sigmar and alarielle simply avoid embracing wholly the entirety of the realms they embody at any one time, lest they lose themselves in the process, instead they maintain themselves in coherent and relatively "lower power" forms that can almost be mistaken for mortals still

nagash's approach, of course, is way more ambitious and effective

>>96404365
ushoran was nonetheless one of the first vampires, that kind of point zero status makes him important
and yes he's neferata's brother

>>96404544
When we gettin' Vlad and Krell back.

>>96404297
Probably with next obr wave. It's very clear they want to redo mortarch kit. I believe one of the reliable leakers said Nagash or death will be very prominent this edition which hasn't happened yet.

>>96404591
Probably never. Deathrattle not even having a single unique hero anymore or any new units really sealed their fate of being vamp cucks. Hell they even took away the best weapon option graveguard had to drive the point home.

i feel like Helsmiths will play similarly to CoS

>>96404696
They're not as castle bound but they do move slow, their battle trait wants them to control and mark terrain to generate tokens they hand out to their units to make them better, but once terrain is marked you can leave it.

Their artillery looks good enough would think most lists want to run it.

The shotgunners are pretty strong. Only one shot each but 2 damage and they get up to rend 3 with 3 tokens.

So combined arms looks like a decent option.

>>96403885
Alternative to doing what then? They'd already lost again. He was the last man on the line.

>>96404668
>Probably with next obr wave. It's very clear they want to redo mortarch kit. I believe one of the reliable leakers said Nagash or death will be very prominent this edition which hasn't happened yet.

As always I wanna believe, but I feel like we would have heard more rumblings right? I spose editions last several years but still...

>>96404763
sounds interesting. not sure why Rob is so down on em. are there playtest leaks anywhere reliable?

>>96404721
>[...] four fyrds of Fyreslayers, who used their magma-channelling to hasten their long underground trek.
How?

>>96404771
eh its kinda hard to forgive and forget when you see what was once your home turning into a living onahole with the ones you loved as its eternal vaginal walls.

>>96404800
No idea, advanced copies of the tome have been out for a bit now.

Dunno why rob is disappointed, the downside of the tome to me is it's still a 4e tome, it doesn't really break ground with battle formations, poop d3 rolls, aor or anything like that.

>>96404786
I feel like we didn't hear about skaven until a year or so before 4e but don't care enough to look back at the first mention of it from Whitefang.

>>96404763
from where are you getting this

>>96404103
Nah, plenty of afterlives are fine whereas with Sigmar choosing your fate you get nothing but hardship as he brainwashes you. The outcome is life as a tormented lightning gheist or annihilation: true death with no afterlife

>>96402462
Here's an idea: they could try for a one-and-done approach for setting backdrops. So they put out one of those 1v1 boxes with a couple warbands and some terrain and playable scenarios in it, and let's say it's set in some corner of Ghur again, but then the next box shifts focus to some other corner of a different realm. So instead of spending a season digging into a single location (Bloodwind Spoil/Gnarlwood) it goes like a lightning round through a bunch of them.

>>96404939
You monster, that will force James to be more creative instead of milking a setting dry over an entire year.

Hey guys who is your favorite stormcast character?

Mine is Ionus Cryptborn

>>96404939
Hard mode: neither warband is "native" to the realm so no KO in chamon

>>96402310
Anyone know anything?

>>96405068
I don't think there's too much difference, just buy whatever's cheapest and it's probably fine. They probably just add more electrolytes or something to the gamer version.

Man people are really running with that bullshit coastal stormcast vs coastal death """rumour""" posted by some anon here lol. Tga and reddit both hooked. Makes me wonder if the guy just posted it here to screencap

>>96405137
i can't wait for stormcast with golden metal sailor hats

>>96405137
Rumors spread in the most retarded ways. I remember people in 1ed making jokes about bonecast eternals and then when obr dropped they all pretended they weren't joking and that that's what they were all talking about

>>96405156
It’s just the lord ordinator with a puffy hat

Is the secret to painting rusty chainmail just a brown wash and some select brighter browns on the lower parts of some of the rings? I'm trying to find a guide specifically for chainmail but it's shockingly difficult to find

>>96405167
I usually just base a bunch of spodgy browns with some oranges, then drybrush a dark metal, then a light silver.

>>96405167
Basecoat deep brown, wash thinned orange brown, drybrush silver

>>96405137
you see this guy? >>96403377
he's a TGA forum poster

>>96405137
I don't know why anyone would trust the rumors from here, this place is a fuckin' hole. But you won't see someone post to reddit a screenshot of that or like the 30 posts of gooning to Juri-han and Morathi.

>>96405137
There was a really retarded "Night at the Museum AoI" list for TOW that started on /tg/ that took off too. It was of course absolute bullshit, but is wild what random stuff people will just choose to believe.

>>96405229
I have no idea what that means, like the heroquest aoi ? Bunch of random heroes and shit like fimir?

>>96405005
Tornus, ynd

>>96405324
Yeah, that was exactly what it was. The "leaker" said it was half repurposed hero quest minis and fimir (and old Tomb King mummies)

>>96404591
Hopefully never.

>>96405137
You can post on more than one website

5e leaks (REAL)
>Stormcast Eternals will have a new chamber opened
>The enemy will be a new Death army
>Sigmar is a dumbass
REAL AND NOT MADE UP PLEASE SCREENSHOT AND REBLOG

>THE STITCHED KNIGHT
>As Ushoran is sealed inside the Shroudcage, his spawn infesting his Citadel of Bloody Roses unearth a marvel: a tapestry of their liege in his guise as a paladin. Moreover, when the moon Lunaghast's light falls upon it, the embroidered portrait acts as a realmgate, though most who pass through it vanish without trace. Only when the Mortarch establishes his rule in Ghyran is it discovered that the portal leads to his whereabouts. Who created the tapestry — and why the knight appears to weep when its arcane nature is active — is unknown.

>>96405716
Wouldn't it be fucked up if there was a FEC lord who's depressingly aware of the truth under the delusion but can't do anything about it? Like he sees himself as a noble paladin but has flashes of awareness that he's a ghoulish bat-man

>>96405770
That's basically the judge, he'll be eating guts and rotting corpses then stop midway through with people being like "Hey man, everything okay? You've barely touched your glorious feast" and he kinda just stays on the outskirts and hope he can re-schizofy.

Guessing no reveals at nova this year?

https://youtu.be/dgJCb2nnsn0?si=ZP_iX3cnQDbqHLgQ
Anyone know what series this is from

>>96405810
Novas preview is closed doors this year. Only people who are getting previews tn are those who bought a ticket to nova. Unless we get lucky and someone leaks, we'll probably have to wait till tomorrow for gw to show off what they teased

>>96405829
THE SLUTS

>>96405814
If it's old Nagash probably the Nagash trilogy, End times Nagash, and 3rd possibility Soul wars.

>>96405829
Is there even a preview show listed on nova's website? I thought it was just painting a few pre-release units (aka chorfs)

>>96402143
Oh cool...anyways

>>96402143
What's the difference between Warcry and Underworlds?

>>96405810
>>96405829
>>96405843
Yes there is no preview show this year, its just showing off stuff from last month's show already painted and stuff.

Is there any decent way to still get this guy? It's insane that GW squatted this guy so fast just because he's more reminiscent of the older style than with the newer look of skeletons.

>>96405916
One is a job and the other is mental sickness.

>>96405916
Warcry is a small scale skirmish game and Underworlds is like a board game card game combo

>>96405957
I have the model unpainted if theres some way to scan it kek

>Kiretha's fingers found her bow even before her vision had cleared. Her digits closed around the wooden shaft — then recoiled as splinters sliced her skin. It shocked her to wakefulness; she jolted upwards, gasping. She knelt amongst a field of the dead, her face coated in blood. Her aelven kin lay in mangled heaps alongside the ghouls they had fought, smoking sunmetal arrows still sticking from the creatures' hides.

>‘Llota,’ Kiretha gasped. Panic, a kind she had not experienced since childhood, saw the archer glance around, eyes narrowing as she searched for her beloved scryhawk companion. No feathered body lay among the dead. ‘Llota!’

>‘Ah, then that be thy name, my little friend?’

>The crooning voice sent a shiver rocking through the aelf. A figure squatted amid the carnage in the shadow of a twisted tree. It was clad in rags of flayed meat that it had hung across itself with a grotesque deliberateness. Upon an extended talon, Llota perched. Her wings twitched in erratic bursts of motion.

>‘Ay, sweetling, 'tis assuredly a strange and misshapen brute that doth think to address us,’ the vampire nodded, a filthy claw scratching beneath the scryhawk's beak. ‘Forsooth, a thing possessed of no loveliness at all. Even Lord Ushoran would not wish to break bread with them, I should wager. not like thee, my dear, oh no no. Thou art a handsome thing, like dear Grype. Let us see what old Felgryn has for thee...’

>>96406023
>Nearby, an aelf groaned, trying to drag himself through the debris, one leg dangling from a half-severed tendon. Almost absent-mindedly, the vampire grasped his skull and slammed it against the earth until it cracked. Kiretha watched, transfixed by horror, as the creature peeled away a long strip of skin and held it out to the scryhawk. With a gurgling caw, Llota snapped out, swallowing it. Her eye twitched.

>‘Fiend...’ Blinding anger banished weakness from Kiretha's limbs. She staggered to her feet with teeth set, her hand straying to a belted blade. ‘Fiend! Unhand her!’

>The vampire looked at her, head cocked. From the branches of the tree came a series of hisses. Mad-eyed birds and bats stared down at her, all glutted on fresh carrion.

>‘What dost thou think, sweetling?’ murmured the vampire, tongue lashing its fangs. ‘Shall we hunt a live mouse this time?’

>The abhorrant hurled its arms forwards and Llota exploded into flight with a piercing shriek. Hesitation — the bond of familiarity — stayed Kiretha's hand for just a moment. It ensured that the last sight she ever witnessed was her companion's talons flashing towards her eyes.

>1e AoS launch box
>Soul Wars
>Dominion
>Skaventide
Rank 'em

>>96406093
Skaventide
1e/dominion
Soul wars
The 2e was such a fucking mess. Actually, I think so was the 1e box was too.

>>96406093

1e > Dominion > Skaventide > Soul Wars

Soul wars goes in last because whatever cunt at GW decided to give NH odd numbers of units. 5 grimghasts and 5 fucking Glaivewraiths.

>>96406093
>1e AoS launch box
It's nostalgia on my part but I'm looking back on this and I think it was a pretty sweet box.

>>96406112
>>96406138
Is skaventide the only one with terrain?

>>96406144
Yarp.

>>96406144
Yeah. It’s why it was priced so high. Though probably not a good justification considering 40k has had terrrain in their boxes since what, third edition?
Whatever, skaventide might as well be renamed spearhead of the realms.

>>96406112
>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO PLAY WITH TOURNAMENT RULES YOUR QUANTITY OF TOYS IS ILLEGAL

>>96406093
>1e AoS launch box
okay but very boring matchup, slow armored melee guys vs slow armored melee guys, both sides have lots of red and gold. snooze fest, but launched the game 6/10. could have been better, could have been worse, the stormcast models from this era were very very boring

>Soul Wars
massive upgrade in aesthetic quality for both the stormcast and the enemy side and had a great story to go along with it, but plagued by weird illegal unit sizes that really poisoned the kits. 7/10, would have been like 8 or 9 if it werent for the unit size thing, but it was really bad

>Dominion
stormcast redesign looks great, yndrasta is a really cool model and character, kruleboyz have amazingly characterful and fun sculpts, both sides actually have full units. story was completely forgettable though, and both model sets were plagued by 3 straight years of unplayable dogshit rules 5/10

>Skaventide
great models on both sides, the skaven refresh looks as good as anyone could have asked for, and the slimcast redesign finally finds its footing with the newer units adding more grit and detail with chains, furs, and skull iconography. good selections of legal units, and a fairly impactful narrative to kick off the edition. somewhat soured by 4th editions awful battetomes coming out almost immediately afterwards and ruining everyones hopes for the edition though, and they also didnt end up doing anything with the skaven invasion after the initial shock and awe, and 4e's narrative ground to a halt. 8/10 as a launch box, but like a 4/10 with all the other considerations of the followup rules and lack of story.

>>96406184
shut up

>>96406193
Tbf, dominion had so many copies printed that if the rules for the units were bonkers then the balance for the edition would have been fucking terrible. I don't think there's many examples of starter set models getting strong rules for long

>>96406193
>they also didnt end up doing anything with the skaven invasion after the initial shock and awe, and 4e's narrative ground to a halt
Weird to think its been over a year, in fact we're quickly approaching the half-way point and this whole Vermindoom stuff hasn't gone anywhere.

>>96406111
Skaventide has the best minis for me, usually there's at least 1 side I dislike but both the stormies and skaven were well executed. That being the price point is just too big imo.
>>96406184
It's a retarded practice by gw regardless

The worst part about soul wars was that one extremely scuffed mount that a stormcast is riding

>>96406193
>the slimcast redesign finally finds its footing with the newer units adding more grit
Sorry, but you're forcing my hand. I'm ending our friendship.

>>96406093
tide > dom > soul > aos1

>>96406213
Khadrons lost a big hub city which could be neat to explore later on. I’m expecting bigger things for sylvaneth, maybe helsmiths too?

>>96406215
It's weird to say I'm not the biggest fan of the new skaven style. The triangle patchy kilts they all wear just look off to me. Maybe it's more the thought of painting 40 clan rats makes me wanna puke.

>>96406193
I'm sold on the slimcast designs for some units and pretty much all the heroes (except new knight questor compared to the old), but I feel like the basic infantry hasn't sold me. If you showed me an old and new liberator I'd probably still pick the old one.

>>96406213
>>96406231
It's been part of the kharadron and idoneth lore in their tomes, idoneth started burning cythai souls to make incarnates on response, and yeah barak-mhornar went kaput. Dunno much about the other armies though, but it looks like chorfs will be involved with skaven more.

Thoughts on the Chaos cavalry?

>>96400713 (OP)
Soon

>>96406193
soulwars got me interested in the game but I did some research before I bought it and found out about the shit unit sizes, so got dominion instead.

>>96404874
ive seen the book, i don't expect anyone to believe me and i don't really want to answer any questions about it. It's a 4e tome, chaos dwarves play how you imagine chaos dwarves would play, the warscrolls are a mix between good to meh, there's not really anything mega interesting to say about it desu, the box will likely go up for sunday preview this weekend or next, might be that the TOW tomb kings stuff goes up first.

>>96406296
the vanquishers and vigilors are significantly better than the liberators or vindictors. sure they could do with a bit more embellishment like what the reclusians got, but they are a massive step up from the other starter set infantry

>>96406375
>idoneth started burning cythai souls to make incarnates on response
Shit still pisses me off, feels like a less effective Eidolon. Do the Incarnates stick around and roam the seas or do they dissipate after the battle?
I don't know what I would have rather preferred but I wanted something different to come of the Cythai souls storyline. I also read through the new tome the other day and they stopped mentioning a 99:1 Namarti:Normal ratio. Just "vast majority" or other synonyms.

>>96406446
I do feel like the liberators and vindicators got it the worst, the vindicator poses still look pretty shite to me. I'm hoping we get the stupid auto-crossbows and other mechanical type stormcast stuff next.

>>96406461
Feels like they wanted to put some weight behind things like "woah they have to sacrifice their oldest souls to keep their civilization afloat woah" but idk incarnates don't really feel that powerful when eidolons are the same and feel much more imposing. I also don't know why cythai souls would be any more 'powerful' than normal elf souls, valuable to the idoneth yes but powerful? They're literally just normal elf souls. Not that big of a deal in the end but yeah didn't work the way gw wanted it to (for me)

>>96406508
The difference between Cythai and normal deepkin souls is that Cythai are elven souls from the world that was. So they're like a fine vintage compared to newer mass-produced souls.

>>96406532
But is there any difference, quality-wise? I get why idoneth would revere the cythai souls more but I don't get why they would more powerful. I guess if you go the route that *because* the idoneth value them more they do actually become more powerful as a sacrifice.

>>96406564
In the lore passage about them sacrificing a Cythai soul it said that the soul was almost blindingly bright. I think it's mostly safe to assume that in this case old actually does equal good. As to why that is, I couldn't tell you beyond it's what the authors wanted.

>>96406580
Interesting. If we speculate a little, it is mentioned that the idoneth, living in the dark depths of the oceans and with turbo-ptsd from slaanesh, have dulled their senses over time. Since apparently the original cythai souls are brighter, we could assume that this lifestyle has dimmed the souls of the idoneth, which makes them less powerful.
That or gw goes "older = more powerful I don't have to explain shit lol"

>>96406647
>That or gw goes "older = more powerful I don't have to explain shit lol"
Probably that one lmao
At least until stated otherwise.

>>96406564
Cythai are immortal and their souls shine with the light of hysh or something to that effect. Normal full souled Idoneth have a shorter lifespan than other aelves.

There’s a short story I really liked with a weirdo Teclis-worshipping idoneth who Volturnos sends around to get different enclaves to join up with his assembrals. Thag guy seemed to believe that the amount of generations removed from a Cythai you were could be sort of estimated by looking at you, those with a handful of generations removed being heartier and seeming like something shined behind their eyes compared to those with a dozen+ generations removed. That’s Idoneth phrenology from a guy with a weird and offputting religious beliefs for his culture, though, so it might not objectively be true

>>96406664
Cythai are immortal beings crafted by the hands of a god, normal Idoneth with full souls are the lucky few of their soul-cursed descendants who don’t need a transfusion to live

>obr keeps their other spearhead with the new one
This shit is so inconsistent man

What're the odds of Soulblight getting more types of skeletons or zombies in the future? It'd be really cool to be able to run pure skeleton or pure Necromancer/zombie armies without having to spam multiple of the same units.

>>96407208
In the 4th edition they will be the protagonists so they will surely have new units.

>>96407263
My mistake, I meant in the 5th edition.

>>96407208
I think Soulblight should be split between vampires and skeletons because I hate you

>>96407311
Micro factions can suck my fat fucking cock

>>96407268
Will 5th also reverse the trend of massive streamlining?

I’d like for them to refresh or re-add a Vampire Countess model back into SBGL’s.

>>96407461
So basically just updated isabella von carstein?

>>96407208
there's already a pure skeleton faction so that's very obviously never going to happen. Zombies are just brainless undead so they're not worth making an entire faction for. GW can't even come up with more than one design for the ghost centered faction and ghosts don't need to be shaped like any specific physical thing, but you want a faction of mindless green humans? Death is spread thin enough with every type of undead being pigeonholed into their own thing, we don't need to spread them even further by making zombies subfaction exclusive.

>>96407470
I suppose. The most succinct way I can put it is that I think if future Vampire models are more like the Blades of the Hollow King and not like the generic Vampire Lord model with the bats in the hair I’d be a happy camper.

>>96407476
I didn't say subfaction exclusive, just to have the ability to. You can already run a skeleton-only army, it's just you have 0 magic if you do that. For zombies they could add something along the lines of flesh crafted zombies. Patchwork Men, basically Frankenstein. Smarter and stronger, sort of like Wight Kings for Zombies.
For skeletons I'd like to see a boney wizard. No reason why Arkhan gets to be the only lich besides Nagash. I like the Soulblight is the "generic" undead faction. They get all the classics, but I want to see it expanded a bit.

>>96405619
Virgin Stormcast, Chad Git

>>96407537
I really hate the weird bat hair vampire look they with. It looks like a nightmare to paint and it just looks silly. I like Cado's armor and general look, even if the newer Blades model set looks a bit weird with the posing and their faces. Hopefully we get more Dynasty-specific vampires. They made so many Vyrkos that the whole faction just feels like it's Slavic undead right now.
>>96407470
If they made a modern Vlad and Isabella model and brought them back into AOS I'd cum.

>>96404063
It wasn't even actually true, everyone knew the reforging process hadn't been perfected and they were forced to deploy before it was ironed out, noone at all knew what the effects of it would be on stormcast. In the trailer it's not even a claim that sigmar actually lied, it's a stormcast feeling lied to that she signed up for immortality and found out it came with strings later, but in the end saying she still gladly pays that price and would have even if she'd known what it was at the time because it lets her make a difference.

>>96407599
It's annoying they made multiple new generic vampire lord models, but included absolutely 0 options in the kits to make them resemble any of the bloodlines they've put so much effort into fleshing out.

>>96402051
I,m running it, now at the Horned Rat, 75% of the camapign I had to ignore, my PCs were not all lowly nobodies, and they're rubbing shoulders with the Graf and every other high and mighty.
First book I skipped almost compeltly, no one wanted to go buy tax-free livestock at some dumb festival in Bogenhafen.

>>96406093
1e
Soulwars
Skaventide
Dominion.

Thunderstrike range is just lame compared to Fatcasts IMO, Skavens are cool, but Nighthaunt are some of the best AoS models.

>>96407631
You will be bat hair vampire or BEASTLY POLISH VAMPIRE, no other options.

>>96407208
Real slim? The only new additions since fantasy is the wight lord which is just an alternate build wight king. The only thing they can really add at this point is heroes, don't think they want to explore skeleton archers, heavy cav or siege weapons in soulblight.

>>96407687
Liche, please GW, skelebone lovers want a liche hero

>>96407687
>>96407726
Lich great lords (one on foot one on zombie dragon), skeleton crossbowmen, skeleton ballista, skeleton war machine with skeletons inside that pop out and go rattle rattle we're fucking your mouth

>>96407687
Skeleton Archers would be neat for more troops, though really they’d need magic and more heroes to feel like an all Skeleton army is viable.

greywater....home...

>>96407907
How about nu greywater

>>96407673
I mean, crimson court are all the same base size as vamp lord. You got a solid mix, even if I hate that the main guy lacks poofy sleeves and his cape is only on his lower torso. I mean it's an easy fix but still.

>>96407925
dont hate em. dont love em.

>>96407938
Don't have strong opinions on their puffy shirts and big hats getting deleted?

>>96407599
I sculpted a windblown cape resembling wings that splays out from her shoulders and back behind that hair, looks pretty good.

>>96405957
Ebay, or get lucky and find him still available in a store somewhere.

>>96407925
Pretty decently done for battleline troops

>>96407311
I think vampires should have fatter asses and elves have fatter tits. Also vampires should wear high heel boots and elves should wear high heel sandals

>>96405005
Vandus easily

>>96408118
This man is a visionary

>>96408118
I don't agree. Elves should be slim.

>>96405005
Cryptborn or Vandus. Generic perhaps but I've loved them both since day 1 AoS.

>>96407726
Make your own out of one of the cheapest kits gw sells

>>96407208
>What're the odds of Soulblight getting more types of skeletons
zero
>or zombies in the future?
high

>>96406427
>>>/tg/slop
fuck off tripfag

>>96406215
>It's a retarded practice by gw regardless
1e had battalions with buffs gated by lower than standard unit sizes

>>96407208
zombie wolves
zombies
zombies ogors
zombie dragon
zombie cart
it's enough

>>96403688
Would love for CoS to get a proper elven refresh and have Darling Covens expanded out as well as the monstrous aspect and the corsairs

>>96408288
Slim with gigantic asses

>>96408525
on males yeah

>>96408118
elves are borderline infertile, they wouldn't have large breasts

FEC points when?

>>96403387
There's more to Dark Elves than Morathi's crazy cult.

>>96407208
>>96407687
We had these guys for a while, I'd like to see more non-human zombies/skeletons. Although sbgl are a pretty complete range already.
That being said they were too based so gw squatted them.

>>96408757
Hold up, it's not a crazy cult. What the hell are you talking about?

>>96408746
They've been up for a while already.

Yo glaivewraiths got free rules online.

>>96409141
Yeah looks like they only become legends next year in june

>>96409218
Why the fuck did it compress to high heaven
This any better?

Glad to see they finally gave the mantrapper and Sunblood gank squad aos rules after months of them being in a spearhead

>>96409340
>>96409340
>>96409340