Thread 96429134

Yu-Gi-Oh! General #578

"Conductor of Nephthys" Edition

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>TQ: Which deck do you want to win WCS?
>TCaC: Turn Nephthys into more than a bad engine for Spright while keeping its identity (as terrible as it is)

>TQ
Memento so konami would take notice and hit that absolute slop of a deck in some way.
Or at least bring back Shifter.
>TCaC
"Nephyhs Izuna"
During the Main Phase (Quick Effect): You can destroy this card in your hand or field along with up to 2 other "Nephthys" monster from your hand, deck or field, except "Nephyhs Izuna", and if you do, destroy the same number number of cards on the field of different card types (Monster, Spell, Trap), also you cannot activate monster effects for the rest of this turn, except WIND or FIRE monsters.
During the next Standby Phase after this card was destroyed by card effect and sent to the GY: You can add this card your hand, and if you do, activate 1 Continuous "Nephthys" Trap directly from your deck or GY.
You can only use each effect of "Nephthys Izuna" once per turn.

>>96429134 (OP)
this is a little off topic but what sleeves do you recommend for protecting cards in general? I'm imagining hard instead of soft sleeves since I don't plan on actually using/playing with these cards. from the little research I've done I'm assuming anti UV/acid free is the best but I'm open to suggestions

>>96429134 (OP)
>conductor of nephthys-chan OP
Cute!!!

How can I play Dueling Nexus on Android?

>>96429134 (OP)
>TQ: Which deck do you want to win WCS?
Any deck carried by a degenerate floodgate so it gets nuked into the sun on the next list.

>>96430306
Unless those cards are worth hundreds of dollars, don't bother going crazy on special sleeves for them. Ultrapro inner sleeves (every other brand has terrible quality control) with dragonshield/katana matte should be enough, but if you're paranoid you can also use dragonshield outer sleeves. For storage, any hard shell case should be enough, if you want to display them buy a binder instead.
>>96431461
Now why would you want to do that? Use master duel or omega instead, the later needs discuck for online however, so if you don't want to make an account use EDOpro instead.

>>96432265
I wanna play Edison

>>96431461
Works on my machine, but I really wouldn't recommend it because it's fucking dueling nexus. You can make edison rooms on edopro and omega which both work on android if you're that desperate that you can't wait to play till you get to a PC.
I have no idea why you're subjecting yourself to nexus when edo and omega exist though.

Finally, a fitting upgrade for Dark Magician girl. Good luck fapping to her now.

>>96435433
This is timaeus albeit. And the best target for DMoC's cheat summon is pic related, which is 200% fappable.

>>96434736
Do a lot of people play Edison on those?

>>96429134 (OP)
>>96431423
It's a shame kaz never did anything with this archetype, his most obvious fetishes were dark-skinned women, loli, brainwash/mind control, corruption and armpits, and the nephthys tribe is literally full of blue-eyed brown girls, with the most important one being a little girl whose outfit bares her armpits, the card art even draws your eyes to them. Either he never took a good look at the archetype, or he simply didn't give a damn, which i seriously doubt because the last girl he drew for the franchise was sera from DSoD, a brown little girl.

>Sky Striker top 4 at WCS
You've heard of 10,000 years of Branded
now get ready for 10,000,000,000,647 years of Sky Striker

>>96436446
It really depends on the time of day, euro and us prime times are the peaks of player. EDO can tajrt a little while to get someone but omega is decently quick to fill. Just need to set up the lobby for edison and wait or find one.

>>96438955
The lunachad bricked, but if he loses he'll never live it down because sky striker is incomplete AND he lost to a tranny.

>>96439727
Never mind, he won. He's probably gonna fold to the other dude but that's ok, it's literally coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb.

>>96439727
Lunalight won but that was to be expected, in all honesty. No matter what, Liger Dancer is almost always a death sentence with that matchup, unless you can boost Kagari above its stats or have HAMP.

>>96436446
You'll find them more easily on Edopro. Omega supports Edison format but you need to explicitly choose those lobbies, whereas their primary means of play is through matchmaking (casual matchmaking, but still).

>>96439794
>have HAMP.
According to the commentators the Striker player wasn't running it, even in the side. I bet he will be kicking himself over that.
It's poetic that the anti-meta deck tricked out to beat the most popular decks would fumble against another off-meta deck.

>>96439866
nope g2 there were 2 ligers all the troon could do was scoop

give your energy to the furries to defeat the furries

>>96439955
Did anybody try the new Gem Knights? Are they fun now instead of FTK burn slop?

>>96440839
No because cards from BLMM weren't allowed because konami delayed the set for every region save for na/sa because "starlgiht rate too high", rather than just taking the L. It's why there's no orcust punk, dragonmaid with dracotail as well. It's even funnier because no no one in eu is buying that set.

>>96442099
To answer the other half, gem-knights actually did very well as a blind second deck maining breakers and charmies until JUHU. Now because pair-a-dice turn skip it's too risky. Hopefully it gets banned but unfourtunately it will go from pair a dice smasher turn skip to artifact mjonlir lock with quinquery( TOTAL ARTIFACT DEATH WHEN?)

You know, while this format is pretty challenging, kinda feeling like its a good one. If the banlist only hits Pair-A-Dice Smasher, it doesn't feel like it would be all too bad of one.

Though Konami throwing a critical haymaker would also be really funny.

>>96443504
Yummy has earned its own set of hits regardless of performance at worlds. Having a Liger Dancer barreling through everything doesn't change how annoying of a deck it is to play against.

I don't think its core needs to get hit at all though. Kill Hornet Drones since that almost exclusively hurts Yummy, and does a tiny bit to annoy Sky Striker while not actually damaging it. If I had to pick a hit that would actually harm Sky Striker, it would be Lemnisgate, but I don't think hitting them is really necessary in the slightest since their kit has so many asterisks to it.

>>96444013
>Kill Hornet Drones since that almost exclusively hurts Yummy, and does a tiny bit to annoy Sky Striker while not actually damaging it
lmao shut the fuck up

>>96444142
Cope and seeth, yummyfag. Hornet Drones is minimally important to a pure Sky Striker kit while it's a free synchro for Yummy.

>>96444013
I mean on the one hand it didn't win and only barely squeaked by into Top 8.

But if they do a light nerf to each of the Justice Hunter decks with Pair-a-Dice being one for K9...Hornet Drones being killed I could see for Yummy. There are other token spawn cards, but being able to use it into Kagari to get it back to hand to use again, as well as being able to use Engage to make that more likely could be viewed as a bit outside what they intended.

But if they do plan on doing a light 'slap on the wrist' hits to them while likely hitting older decks like Maliss and Ryzeal hard...what would be the minor nerf to Dracotail? In fact, would they even get one since their results haven't been the biggest?

>>96438133
Source, boss?

>>96444428
Probably a semi or limit on Faimena since you can't really just hard-ban extra deck monsters for them and call it a day. You can point to Winda, but they still have access to a lot of degenerate turn 0 monsters. You kill Winda and Millennium-Eyes takes her place. You kill Millennium-Eyes and people start summoning Invoked Caliga through Lubellion instead. You kill Caliga and they start summoning Dragostapelia. At bare minimum they can summon Mirrorjade. Some of those things might not seem like a big deal, but it's a problem when they're being summoned on turn 0 and locking up your plays before you make them. All of it loops back to Faimena as an enabler.

Winda's had it coming for a while, so I wouldn't be particularly sad if they just killed her. But I would rather they hit Faimena first.

>>96444526
>Probably a semi or limit on Faimena since you can't really just hard-ban extra deck monsters for them and call it a day.
Feels too early for Faimena to get hit. Certainly she'll have a copy or two taken off on the first "real" list that hits the Justice Hunter decks, but for the new cards in Justice Hunters...it's too early.

Winda and maybe Caliga might be hit, though. Sorta treat the banning as akin to Pair-A-Dice. Especially since the Mulcharmies are coming in the tins. If they want to be selling a lot of those, they'd be wanting to lower the ones that utterly cripple special summons as that reduces the Mulcharmy ceilings. Millennium-Eyes be called "fine" by Konami internally because it does have an 'equipped monsters can't battle/negate effects" aspect that lets them last longer, the act of equipping being once per turn could easily be called "fine".

what the fuck, no way he play

>>96438133
Sera a best and my wife. Though I still don't know how old is she, she was already young in Aigami's flashback and then still remained a loli quite a few years later.

>>96444643
I wouldn't call it impossible since they've been a lot less shy about doing early hits (either slaps on the wrist like what Ryzeal/Maliss got, or slaughter lists like what they did to Tenpai). Though... yeah, Winda's almost certainly getting the stick before Faimena gets a gentle warning.

What I will say is that if Konami is okay with Faimena directly performing fusion summons at the player's discretion, they need to lighten up on Tearlament bans just a little bit. I'd never want to see them going back to full-power Ishizu/Tearlaments, but they could at least stand to semi-limit a few of their native cards.

>>96445444
Considering he's holding BE, he's more likely only a secondary. Neat to see but I doubt he's an actual player.
I'm waiting for the day we get some figure head that's showing off some real shit like a subterror guru, drident, zeus, or something

>>96445444
I genuinely have no idea how they roped macron into this, there's absolutely no way KONMAI could pay for him so it was an agreement (if it was, i wonder what he got in return) or the dude just did it for free, but if he did, why? Does he have a nephew that plays the game? I doubt he plays it, he's holding the card incorrectly, even people who play "normal" card games ie poker and uno, hold cards differently.

>>96446462
I'd say that before they make the main deck Semi-Limited, they need to test Kitkalos from 0 to 1 on its own. The literal only time you can bring her back with the lowest risk is right now with how heavily restricted the names are.

Though I will admit there is always the possibility of rather than competing, Dracotail and Tearlaments would combine in this hypothetical. Even if its just the main deck names getting unhit slightly.

>>96445444
this is the best blue eyes art btw

>>96444164
>yummyfag
Wrong.

Is my life's work finally complete?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15hQ7d7jRjx44NljmQQcG_-1xzAsYdTJ9vBWmf3rnOg8/

Is there anyone I'm missing?
I'll focus more on removing cards once I can be certain everything is here.

>>96450051
>rush shit
lol rush is cunnypilled, so you'll never finish collecting loli cards from it

you have a LOT of petite women shitting up your cunnylection, i'd say 40% of it is hags

ze amin might not even be a girl, he's named after some crossdressing jap

some of your lolis are literal dolls

not all fairies are lolis, again some are just petite, others are small-sized fully grown women, like my wife sunny pixie

if you're adding shit like trial of the princesses just because the card art features the lolis in them, then you're missing a shit ton, to give you an example nemleria is sleeping on top of dreaming reality, i would honestly just cut those cards entirely

I want to force meme wins. I can summon this guy and get the trap to do inside attack during the battle step, but is there a way to force my opponent to attack it?

>>96450274
This card's entire archetype got a retrain like 2 years ago and it's actually quite good.

>>96450239
Thank you for your input.

>rush shit
Yeah I know...
I wasn't exactly against including Rush Duel alongside the regular cards. Problem is the girls there are way too adorable so they had to be on the doc. The thought of an ever-expanding list makes this seem like way less of a waste of time too.

>a LOT of petite women
I like to think of these as Megumin types. Anything marked with ロリッ子 is as such. Young women amidst the blooming of puberty. Ib and Conductor and Rising Scale are some examples.
>ze amin might not even be a girl
Some say all the Noh-Punks are confirmed girls.
Some like to say they're all boys.
It's best for everyone's sanity that we agree they're girls.
>some of your lolis are literal dolls
Cute small dolls! I can't be convinced Ghostrick Doll shouldn't be there. The other gimmick puppets don't look loli which is why they're not on the list.
>sunny pixie
She will be removed then. I see what you mean due to things like Pixie Knight or Fairy Archer Inguanar who I wasn't sure about.
Some fairies are obvious like the Fortune Fairies, however.
>just because the card art features the lolis in them, cut them entirely
I think what I'm going to do is only include actual images of cards like these if they ONLY have loli in them. If loli are featured alongside non-lolis then they'll get a mention in the notes section and nothing else. Meaning Trial of the Princesses will go away.
How does that sound?

All that said, which monsters might I be missing?

Thoughts on this?

>>96450376
Cute!
Saved.
I love her.

It sure is hard to tell sometimes.

>>96450473
It's a doll, they're meant to look like cute, young girls so a cute, young girl will buy it.

>>96450429
The ratios are the worst we've seen so far, but if you buy singles you can pick up ryzeal or maliss for less than $100. You could also terrorize your locals with a rogue deck from 2 metas ago, like voiceless voice or tenpai.

>>96450478
You just wiped away all misgivings and doubts I might have had for including them.
>so a cute, young girl will buy it
And also fat balding ojisan like me.

>>96450519
>And also fat balding ojisan like me.
Please DO NOT buy a doll just so you can install a onahole body on it, they're meant to be treated like princesses by cute little girls, not thoroughly "loved" by adult men.

>>96450510
terrorize your locals on the cheap*

>>96450558
I would never.
If I did get a doll I'd want to dress her up in cute outfits and ribbons and brush her hair and feed her pretend food and maybe take an outside stroll with her.
The onahole gets used by itself.

Also Yugioh.

And speaking of Princess Cologne, how prominent is she in the Zexal manga? I would read it only for her. Never watched the anime before and have no interest in doing so.

Summon Lupus
Lupus effect summon Typhon

Being completely real with you guys, none of the JUSH decks deserve any sort of hit.
K9, Yummy, and Dracotail are all very beatable decks that aren't doing anything *too* extreme. Their endboards aren't unoutable, they aren't FTKing you, at times they can get bodied by hand traps, etc. They're about as healthy as you can ask a tier 1 deck to be
Obviously Pair-o-dice Smasher needs to go, but Smasher is honestly kind of bad in VSK9 anyways and won't really do much to curb the decks powerlevel. It's just a dumb card that shouldn't exist
At most, they should look at banning obedience schooled when Yummy gets Marshmao. Otherwise, just let it rock

>>96452601
Pair o Dice Smasher, Winda, Mjolnir, and Feather Storm are the only cards that deserve to be hit right now I think.

You guys team coin or dice?

>>96452782
This. There's a few floodgate cards that could go but nothing in the cores of those archetypes really need hits.
I don't know about the artifact's lines enough to comment there. Somehow that one hasn't done anything in front of me that I can say it's worth banning. Maybe my opps are just fucking up their lines?

>>96452601
Yummy and dracotail fold to commonly ran boardbreakers, but you're stupid (or just being dishonest) if you think K9 VS doesn't deserve any kind of hit, the deck literally is changing how konami will go forward with new archetypes, all of them are now sporting some sort of turn zero play due to izuna xyz summoning a negate/floodgate/succ on your turn and then the VS cards doing a billion other things.

All these decks seem fine if you only look at the top 3, but that's how you get another shitty tier zero format. I'm not asking you to have mercy on table 500 shit, even if these problems are exacerbated with them (sometimes an ash blossom+impermanence is enough to stop them, but now they have to deal with all the bullshit of turn zero ripper/nasch into reizen pop/sue steal on top of handtraps or just getting turnskipped by double mulcharmy), but VS K9 is just on another level.
>but yummy
It literally can't go second and may die to a single raigeki.

https://exhentai.org/g/3515966/0c1253fece/
Pretty cute H doujin for Traptrixfags

>>96454247
The only reason Mjolnir isn't seeing play right now is because Dice Smasher is more efficient, but if you ban Dice Smasher without Mjolnir, the problem just moves for 4 months and isn't outright solved.

>>96455026
>all of them are now sporting some sort of turn zero play
That's a overarching design decision they're making. K9 is part of this, not the cause. So is Dracotail.
The idea is to 'fix' going second and the generic handtrap suite by creating more and more in engine turn 0 plays. Faimena and Izuna are just the start of this
>izuna xyz summoning a negate/floodgate/succ on your turn and then the VS cards doing a billion other things.
I mean, there's a reason VSK9 isn't a tier 0 deck, and there's a reason pure K9 is basically unplayable. Yes summoning a negate on turn 0 is strong, but there are a lot of combo decks that can just kind of play through it anyways. There are also decks that won't be turning Izuna/Lupus on since they aren't activating effects in hand or grave. And there are multiple interactions points where you could stop them from summoning a Ripper if you aren't confident your line could survive a hand effect or grave effect getting negated. Again, clearly the deck is strong but it's definitely beatable. I think the VS part of the deck is a bigger problem than the K9 part for sure, playing in to Hollie Sue sucks ass
>>but yummy
>It literally can't go second and may die to a single raigeki.
Yummy's weakness going second is a bit overstated. It's not as bad as something like Maliss. And it going to get a lot better when they get Marshmao to extend

Predictions.
Engage to 1, because Sky Striker and Yummy topped Worlds.
Pair-a-Dice Smasher to 0.
Razen to 1.
Stake Your Soul to 1.
Some random floodgate to 0.
3 old cards that should have left the banlist years ago to 3.

>>96456564
>That's a overarching design decision they're making.
It's time for Kitkallos and the maindeck Tear names to all move 1 position downward off the list and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. The only real cogent argument against them is Turn 0 Winda who will likely prove to inherently be an issue with Dracotail anyway and not indicative of a Tearlament problem. But naturally, Konami's not going to touch them until they have a way to monetize them again I'd expect.

>>96456730
>Hmm, what should we hit to damage Sky Striker?
>Should we hit Engage, which has done next to nothing at 3 for a whole year and has an effectively-link-1 searcher in the form of Ace Zero?
>Should we hit Hornet Drones, which can get you into Ace Zero and is used by Yummy to put one of their synchro monsters on the field for free
>Should we hit Lemnisgate, the card that gives them removal and enables them to Kagari loop anything they want as many times as they need to until they win?

>Shit man... I don't know what any of these cards do.... just hit Engage I'm sure that it's the correct call!

>>96450429
Kinda want to get it for Astellar and Elzette.
Will likely end up buying singles instead.

>>96456730
How the fuck would hitting engage hurt Yummy

any ygo locals near wilmington? went to cape fear games but everyone was playing commander

https://kemono.cr/fanbox/user/2905805/post/10501385
Cue sexo

>>96461529
too large

>>96456730
>not obedience schooled to 1.

>>96450429
Apparently cases of it are extremely cheap(barely higher than a box of a core set here).

You WILL post your best 2025 Lightsworn deck

>>96462578
shit sux

Are there ans Decks based in milling? If not why? I can imagine lots oft floodgates + mill can be pretty rough, especially if your opponent searches half his deck

>>96462690
Literally the strongest deck ever made.

>>96462700
See, thought so, better start building before anyone steals this

Are there handtraps against handtraps? am new to newgioh

>>96462578
Here's a picture bro.
I'm sorry but there just isn't one. Best I can say is to go on google/ygoprodeck and find one that matches your prefered play pattern. The cards are good to go *somewhere* but they have no actual destination in-archetype besides the gimmicky fusion monster and some mid synchros. I much prefer the chaos or zombie variations of the deck where you're either making the big chaos synchro guys or giving mill power to skull servants. I think they're fun but maybe not the best.

>>96463922
Psy frame gamma but it's limited due to an assumed intent that konami wants handtraps to be important and resolve. Other cards like crossout designator, called by, and triple tac. are all also limited which is how we can kind of assume that this is konami's intent.
Assuming you're asking how to insulate yourself from a specific handtrap like Nibiru you could run Prohibition and or Sales Ban to delare those names. Just know you're basically locked out of them too then so deckbuild accordingly.

There's also technically the interaction between D. shifter and other D. Fissure like cards boxing out very specific handtraps like Droll, Ogre, Veiler, and such that MUST go to GY to activate and because of the banish override those cards impose the handtraps don't work. But many decks are unable to play under these cards because the effects are reciprocal and the range is a bit too narrow.

>>96462690
I'm gonna guess that you're either new or coming over from MtG. If you're looking for a Blue deck then you want Runick, which is to my knowledge the only (full) deck in the game that focuses on weaponized mill. It's a heavily control-oriented spell-based deck where all of the spells fire off at instant speed and have everything ranging from protection to removal (in one case, weaponized draws) that also exiles your opponent's deck on resolution of those effects.

People commonly run pure variants with floodgates in addition to the control elements, which is how you get Runick Stun.

>>96462652
>>96463959
I figured an archetype built around milling in the end phase wouldn't work in a format where you don't get many end phases. I'll just keep fucking around with them in Master Duel.

>>96465726
Yeah it's kind of a bygone era of the game which is a shame for all the effects that only trigger at a single point in the turn.
If you really want to play LS, you can try out Edison format where they have a decent presence and keep to their original identity.

The reason self mill is so rare to see is because it's extremely strong in a game where there's a a lot of GY manipulation like revives, banish for costs, etc. Tearlament+Ishizu stuff, Lightsworn, Burning abyss, "Grass decks" (that grass looks greener) were all meta at some point all of which were based around self mill. Maybe you'll find some enjoyment in those assuming enough of it is legal today or what format you play.

New one discovered.
Infernal Flame Banshee is causing the readings on my brat-o-meter to go wildly off the charts.

>>96466273
Property of Poplar.

>>96465726
Only if you're trying to run it pure, yeah. You have Kitkallos in MD so just run it with tearlaments and transaction rollback + needlebug nest and call it a day. And if you have reservations about running a mixed pile in a mill deck, well it's a Mill deck and I'd suggest getting over it.

Panther Warrior support when?

Pretty excited for these lads

What if Konami broke their own rules and Errata'd Panther warrior to be a normal monster?

>>96461438
It searches Hornet Drones, sorta serving as copies 2, 3, and 4 of it in the deck.

That's it.

>>96467575
When it alongside Axe Raider, Garoozis, Tiger Axe, and Rocket Warrior are made into Flame Swordsman support.

>>96462690
If you are talking the traditional milling strategy of sending cards to Graveyard, you aren't going to come across many of those because FTK risk can be really high. Lightsworn can do a bit, especially in older formats like Edison like >>96466080 mentions, but a lot of their stuff does lean into self-milling so mileage may vary. Tearlaments is quite powerful and heavily hit on the banlist but it's mainly a self-mill.

For more pure mill strategies, I think Monarchs can do a bit as they have some cards that can ED mill and that can get the vibe of standard mill. But if you want to go for more traditional, then >>96464390 is right that you want to look in on Runick.

>>96461484
Dunno which Wilmington you are talking about. However, the Yu-Gi-Oh Neuron app has a 'search stores' option on the Events section that you can use. Useful to pick up because you have QR code entry into tournaments, and you can get your table number from it rather than waiting for the OTS to print it out. Just know that whatever nickname you use for your Konami ID, that will be listed, so don't choose a real embarrassing one.

>>96469684
I guess they can call the archetype "Burning Fighter" or "Burning Passion" and make a continuous spell that let's you pitch the originals to search the retrains.

>>96469684
> rocket warrior not listed
Hell yeah it's going to get its own rank 4 spam deck!

>>96445444
We are literally a week away from the country exploding and Macron makes this video
I can't tell if this is the clowniest of clown world, or the best timeline

>>96469669
Then just hit Hornet Drones. Why in the world would you hit Engage instead of Hornet Drones, when you could just hit Hornet Drones?

>>96470888
NTA, but both should go. But they won't do any of that because they want you to "omg i love raye, buy sky strikers."

>>96470941
Both won't go because both don't need to go. Engage was at 2 for years-- 3 for the entirety of the last year-- and did nothing. The thing that shook that up is Lemnisgate giving them infinite recursion, which makes a much stronger argument for Lemnis either going to 1 or getting banned, and Engage *maybe* going back to 2 just to give it a little consistency nerf in non-Sky Striker decks.

The only objectively problematic card from Sky Striker right now is the card that's been at 1 for almost its entire lifetime in every format. Hornet Drones getting killed would be fine. Pure Sky Striker players wouldn't miss it, and Yummyfags that relied on it can cope and seeth as they add Ace Zero and Roze to their builds to do the exact same thing that Hornet Drones does.

This guy is fucking insane. I will make Lightsworn work in 2025.

>>96473283
Side note, any extra deck recommendations for a modern (mostly) pure Lightsworn deck? I don't have a lot in Master Duel so outside Curious, Minerva, and Michael, I'm just running some cheap generic rank 4s and synchros I can make with Felis/Raiden/Weiss.

Reposting BIG NEWS from /dng/. Time rules got an update.

>https://www.yugioh-card.com/eu/tournament-policy-ver-2-5-updates-and-changes/
>50 minute rounds
>Top Cut is ALWAYS the top 8
>Time Rules no longer apply to Top Cut
>DRAWs no longer exist, and rules related to them are gone
>If you do not report your Match result in a timely manner (5 minutes), a double loss is applied to both players AND you get a game loss next round
>When time ends, the Match immediately ends and no actions take place. You both immediately lost the Match

Thoughts, /teej/?

>>96473487
I'm on the fence because about half of that sounds good while the other half sounds bad
>More time per duel
That's good
>End of Match results in a double-loss
That's retarded
>Top 8 has unlimited time while slowplay penalties still apply
That's good
>Draws (as in winners and losers) can no longer occur
That's... bad?

Cutest monster for each rival protagonist and best friend

>>96473487
I think it's fine and I think a lot of the people upset by it are either bad (in their execution of plays or indecisive) or just want to be angry at face value by hearing "double loss". Rage baiters also exist to fuel the latter group.
I find myself going to time very rarely even in complex non linear combo decks, I mainly play speedroids for context, because I'm well practiced in my play.
Opponents on the other hand I can see the issue. If you're not versed on what cards do I can see them needing more time to read the cards BUT after the first game you've likely read most of the names in their deck and game 2 and 3 should be faster for you to play. On top of that you're usually sideboarding into cards that hose the opponent (for better or worse but that's not the topic at hand) which should make your ability to play into them better as well as faster.
I honestly think if you're going to time at these higher level events you don't quite have what it takes to top anyway. Not saying you can't try but that loss was never going to be the deciding factor if you're making top cut. But people don't like hearing that so they'll just choose to blame the external factors.
I think the whole loss hostage situation thing is a bunch of theorycraft bullshit similar to every other time they've come out with some kind of penalty. Judges aren't stupid and you're going to get hit with unsportsman conduct or slow play penalty. And if you're doing this at a locals with no good judging you're just a fucking loser because you're doing it for garbage sealed product and the title of That Guy.

TLDR I really don't think it matters all that much and people are underestimating judges ability to sniff out bullshit and hand out unsportsman conduct / slow play penalties. As well as people just generally being better than that and not abusing it. Have a bit more faith in players and judges.

>>96474705
>Yugi
DMG
>Kaiba
Blue Eyes White Dragon
>Joey
Insect Queen
>Jaden
Yubel
>Chazz
Ojama King
>Syrus
Submarineroid
>Yusei
Hanewata
>Jack
Dark Resonator
>Crow
Gale

>>96473487
>DRAWs no longer exist, and rules related to them are gone
Nice.
>If you do not report your Match result in a timely manner (5 minutes), a double loss is applied to both players AND you get a game loss next round
This is actually a really fucking good change, now if your opponent seethes and wants to fuck you over by not reporting the result or deliberately giving the wrong result, the match is forfeit for both and he goes -1 no matter what lol.
>When time ends, the Match immediately ends and no actions take place. You both immediately lost the Match
The best change, and i can already see EVERY fucking jewtuber out there crying about this. They can no longer mald over the nunny.
Checking your empty GY 10 times every time you breathe no longer has purpose.
Siding that volcanic card and gagaga cowboy is now useless.
Deliberately dragging out games is pointless, hell, you WANT to play as fast as humanly possible now.

Every single fucking scummy tactic they relied on, is now gone.

Sex.

>>96475744
lol fag

Is it weird that I kind of just tune out whenever Crow is dueling?

>>96475841
no, crow sucks

>>96474939
You have a weird definition of cute

>>96475889
>DMG
Cute girl
>Blue Eyes White Dragon
Technically a cute girl
>Insect Queen
Only girl card Joey plays I could remember
>Yubel
Cute girl*
>Ojama King
Idk what cute girls Chazz plays
>Submarineroid
Same as Chazz
>Hanewata
Cute
>Dark Resonator
Kind of cute
>Gale
Cutest Blackwing isn't a high bar

My wife.

I was told to only wake up when it is time for new Nemleria support.

>>96476753
prprprpr

>>96473487
>When time ends, the Match immediately ends and no actions take place. You both immediately lost the Match
Absolutely goated, so many decks buffed and so many cancerous cards nerfed.

>>96476753
I want to lick her vagina.

>>96474760
I think there's one more group who could be considered understandably mad. People who got paired against a bad or indecisive player Round 1 and it suddenly becomes more likely they'll have to go against more bad or indecisive players. Especially with the additional Swiss rounds and a Top 8 cutoff.

However, I largely think this is a side effect of the assumption you can only go X-2 at most, and I feel that the loss threshold is going to be higher with the rules changes.

>>96479754
I agree in the sentiment but I don't put a lot of weight into whataboutisms. It does affect it from locals to nats but I don't think this really matters at a locals level because you're there for nothing other than the garbage products or refunding my entry. I don't care that much if I get fucked there.
When it comes to a regional or higher I don't think you're often getting random know-nothings there, or at least you're less likely too. The further up you go the less likely it should be as well
This is just general competitive advice but do not be a pushover at events, such as wanting to call a judge or asking your opp to not waste time aimlessly flipping through cards. It's not that you're being an asshole it's that you want to play competitively on a timer. Do not be afraid to call for judges to maintain accurate game states and good sportsmanship/not slow playing. That's what they're being paid to be there for after all.

>>96473487
>>96475463
This only makes time scumming worse because of how the double loss makes your overall score worse in tiebreakers than just losing normally. Someone can lose game one, and then insist on playing to time and not conceding the match, and knowing that, the winning player now knows they're guaranteed to lose, and their best move is forfeiting to get a better score than the double loss. It gives the losing player essentially a suicide vest to cheat match wins with

>>96481347
This logic is dumb because you're pretending like everyone will employ this "tactic". And by extension of everyone employing this it means everyone will have a bunch of losses and it will mean a net nothing has changed.

So you either have to concede to people aren't going to be employing this every time which means the sky is falling situation isn't real or that everybody is doing it and it's like nothing changed.
Or you can try it and not be extremely pessimistic and have a bit more faith in people that they won't be employing it like this.
Do you see everyone employing stalling for time even though people were doomposting about the previous time rules and the "everyone's just going to go to time and get a free win!!!1!!1!"

>>96481808
If a timescumming strategy not being used all the time makes it a non-issue, then you can apply the exact same argument to the previous time rules, at which point why the fuck do you need to change it in the first place? The fact of the matter is any problem you had with the previous time rules, these new ones are objectively worse at. People weaponizing the rules to cheat out wins? Now you don't even need to win a single game legitimately to be able to do that. People using the tactic against each other? Now you're at prisoner dilemma shit where everyone is picking the objectively worst option where playing the card game does not matter in the slightest. Everyone adopting the strategy so it becomes a universal meta? Literally no one is able to win.

At every level these new time rules are worse unless you care exclusively about making people suffer instead of playing the actual fucking game

>>96481347
At the very least, people won't be checking your graveyard 20 times every time you activate a card, because time running out during YOUR turn means both players lose. No more 10 minute siding and 5 minute shuffling. Those two were some of the biggest issues this game had, issues that KONMAI never bothered to fix with a chess clock or something like that. Now they did, and it's glorious, here's hoping they implement it everywhere, not just sweden.

>>96482016
>Why change it in the first place
I don't have the slightest clue, we all wish we knew what the fuck konami is thinking. I really wish I could tell you. I agree that these are probably not an improvement but I also think that it's not the end of the world.

I legitimately do not think people will weaponize this outside of maybe the first month just because they're sharking losers that want to prove some kind of point and then everyone including judges will be of the wiser and it really won't be much of a concern. We're doing the literal same song and dance as last time they updated the rules. So I'm expecting the exact same adaptations.
I've already outlined my game theory thoughts on everybody employing it so I don't see it as much of a concern in a scoring sense. I'm sure you've seen the video circulating around since you're mentioning prisoner dilemma. I would encourage you to see how it actually plays out maybe a month or two down the road versus just taking that as law rather than theory because it assumes that everybody is going to be the worst rather than people being better.
The argument hinges on the idea that the majority of players being spiteful assholes.

is primite blue eyes stone unplayable now or can it still win? i just finished the entire deck except purges

>>96483217
Nothing's really changed about it so I don't see why you couldn't do well with it besides your capacity to play it. There's always going to be some amount of recency bias in the meta because people just want to play new stuff as well as people figuring out the optimal way to beat the previous decks in the meta.
The only thing to point out is that you need to watch out for bystials to a degree so play with them in mind.

>pure -insert name of archetype here- deck list 2025
>it's 39 handtraps and floodgates that aren't from the archetype at all

>>96483186
It's less that the majority of players have to be assholes, and more that the higher up you are as a player, the more you have to consider the possibility because of how disproportionally susceptible, and the fact that if it DOES ever get as bad as it can get, it can get REALLY bad. So there is a good chance you'll end up with one event where it happens and you piss in the cereal of all the best players, or you have a tournament just grind to a halt and no one knows what to do, and that's going to create a lot more waves than people being salty at getting LP scammed.

>>96483482
I usually play around Ash but not Droll and ignore Nibiru completely, maybe that's wrong. I'll have to think about it more

>>96483217
It's not exactly viable if that's what you're asking. It'll pretty much stay playable until the MST archetype comes out though, since that shit is just a hard-counter to what you're running. You can bring out Sifr for protection, sure, but that's only if you go first and works under the presumption that your opponent won't out it before they set their sights on True Light.

>>96483893
You should only be playing around Nibiru after it's a known factor. If you can set up a negate for it by your 5th summon, then that's less setting up for Nibiru and moreso competent board building.

>>96483186
That Prisoner Dilemma video is interesting, though I think it puts too much weight on individual matches rather than the sum total of matches, as well as doesn't consider one other factor. The decks likeliest to go to time are ones that have long combos or an inability to close out games. Those sorta decks that need to jump through hoops are the likeliest to face the chicken game the most, and they are also likeliest to have the chicken game result in a double loss on at least two occasions - with them potentially losing otherwise throughout the tournament.

So the decks that are likely to rise to the top are ones that can easily establish and break boards, which seems to be decently true with a lot of recent decks. Like it feels like most people get done by the 20-30 minute mark even while the games are still competitive?

So maybe Konami is trying to push out decks with large piles of engines and long combos like Snake-Eyes and several earlier had without needing to create a lot of bans? Or they could just be ripping off Bushiroad because apparently those time rules are similar.

Hello I haven't played since Link were added...
How is my favourite deck, D/D/D doing?

>>96487916
It relatively-recently got support but it's still just a casual deck right now. It should be in a nice place if you're willing to grind it out, but in a nice *casual* place. It's totally unviable and struggles against a good lot of modern decks.

This is also a Droll format, unless Konami shows uncharacteristically good judgement and bans that damned card in the upcoming list. People still have the nerve to call it a "necessary evil" when a lot of the current topping decks play around it.

>>96487916
Recently started showing back up in top cut at some OCG tournaments:
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/d-d-d-627139
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/d-d-d-629985

Mostly having some of their cards like D/D/D Wave High King Caesar as generic boss monsters in decks that use the Fiendsmith engine or D/D/D Marksman King Tell and D/D/D Deviser King Deus Machinex in K9 Vanquish Soul.

Wow cute.