Thread 96430030

Ave Imperator, Nobiles et Plebes. Please post anything related to Senatus Populusque Romanus in this thread.
VENI. VEDI. VICI

oh, VICI alright

>>96430030 (OP)
>Please post anything related to Senatus Populusque Romanus in this thread
Wargames Atlantic released two alternative history Roman STL sets.

obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIAdHEwiAy8

>>96430520
Stop making me want to convert an Imperial [Roman] Guard force for 40k.
(did they make any heavy weapon teams?)

>>96430520
Those aren't very good
There's a better full range on MMF of sci-fi romans that can easily be converted into Imperial Guards but I can't remember the name of it

What about you?

>>96430030 (OP)
Traditional games?

>>96430030 (OP)
Where are the gladiators?

>>96433020

Lex Arcana

>>96431204
>Stop making me want to convert an Imperial [Roman] Guard force for 40k.
https://madrobotminiatures.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=513
Obligatory and pic related if you lack a 3D printer.

>>96431552
>There's a better full range on MMF of sci-fi romans that can easily be converted into Imperial Guards but I can't remember the name of it
Roma Ad Astra?
https://www.myminifactory.com/users/ThatEvilOne/collection/roma-ad-astra

Reminder that you should be saying 'wenny weedy weeky'.

>>96431204
>did they make any heavy weapon teams
No Wargames Atlantic did not make sci-fi Roman heavy weapons or at least not yet.

And even if they did, they will do it their own way like they did with the Les Grognards heavy weapon team where they can technically be used in 40k, but you'll have to have a paper with printed pictures of the heavy weapons team and what heavy weapon it represents.

>>96437553
Wrong. V in classical latin is very soft but it is still a V. Try saying "Veni" without having your lips touch and starting with your mouth open on the V. That is the correct phoneme.

>>96438171
Depends on time period of course, but prior to roughly 100-200AD the V was pronounced as we would pronounce a W or U.
>Try saying "Veni" without having your lips touch and starting with your mouth open on the V
Well, your lips don't touch during any part of either pronounciation so this is particularly retarded, thanks for that.

>it's cold
>the barbarians are too loud
>my feet hurt
>the troops keep asking me why I drink blood on Sundays and why I keep kissing my sister

>>96430030 (OP)
>posting mishmashes of various Roman eras
Very Incredibilis

>>96430520
WW2 Romen is weirdly cool

>>96430030 (OP)
What are the best, No magic Roman TTRPGs?
>inb4 gurps
I already know gurps has stuff, im looking for others.

Any pics of Medieval Western Roman? I swear I saw one here

>>96431156
>Biggus Dickus

>>96438130
>but you'll have to have a paper with printed pictures of the heavy weapons team and what heavy weapon it represents
The fucking what now?

>>96447045
meant to say to have a reference paper with images printed on it to remind you and your opponent what model is proxying as what.

>>96447038
Furries delenda est.

>>96438171
>Romanboos still SEETHE-ing at this
Grow up.

>>96430030 (OP)
My favorite 28mm scaled Roman Miniatures are by Victrix Limited.

>>96430030 (OP)
>man
>Thracian
>Christian
>gladius et scutum
Yup. Dungeon crawling time.

I love rome so much. The religion, the armors and weapons, the absolute chads they had, they aestethics.
Late Roman Empire is kino too, from the 3rd century to ERE. I have two versions of Rome in my setting, a Mix of Greek/Rome metropolis heavily based in Constantinople, and a Latin league like Republican Rome (fightin with all other kinds of not italians, greeks, celts, carthage and Iberians).

>>96438559
That art is sick

>>96430520
I have found new minis for a new antioch trench crusade warband, thank you anon

Are there any decent (fantasy) roman themed games/settings worth looking into these days?

>>96460226
age of decadence, but that's /v/

>>96454867
What’s the catch with these minis? There’s gotta be one. They look really good and seem really good and seem to be a good deal.

>>96463473
? Historicals have ever been better, cheapar and combenient than fantasy, what are you talking about. It's only GW drones than seem to never be able to see other ways to participate in the hobby.

>>96463908
I guess there is no bad thing about the models. I just looked at them and thought: 'this is too good to be true, low price, hard plastic, good details.' That sort of stuff.

>>96464005
Oh boy not so long ago you had mulitp art historical from victrix at 15 pounds in a local shop I go. 15 pounds for 40.

>>96464086
Scratch that, Griping beast vikings, same price, 44 vikings.

>>96447147
You need to make the verbs agree in number. I'd suggest "Homines pellicii delenda sunt," if you didn't want to try to make "furries" a proper noun that wouldn't be translated.

Was Pompey lucky when he pulled back the curtain and found nothing?

>>96438171
>Try saying "Veni" without having your lips touch and starting with your mouth open on the V
I’m really curious how you would pronounce a V if your lips touched.

>>96460226
The default setting of Adventurer Conqueror King is literally rome in decline.

>>96468132
Pompey entering the holy place of the Jewish temple
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(63_BC)
>Pompey himself entered the Temple's Holy of Holies, which only the High Priest was allowed to enter, and thus desecrated it. He did not remove anything, neither its treasures nor any funds, and the next day, he ordered the Temple cleansed and its rituals resumed.

>>96468132
>>96469931
The legend of the Holy of Holies was that, when the High Priest entered for the yearly blood sacrifice, if he were not properly cleansed, he would drop dead in an instant. They used to tie a rope around their waist before entering, so their lesser priests could pull their corpse out if needed. It's also important to remember the difference between Roman temples and Jewish ones. In a Roman temple, the thing was normally dominated by a gigantic statute of the god being worshipped, but the Holy of Holies was... empty. There was nothing there. Pompey entered a most sacred place and was left with the unnerving idea that the Jewish God was too large to be contained within the building.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByZLhsU4I9Q

They weren't white and you aren't related to anyone important.
Even if you were you shouldn't be satisfied with that but rather be seeking to create things to be proud of aside from your genetics which are completely out of your control.

>>96467868
>>96468132
>>96469931
>>96472073
It's also a reference to the Interface story.

>96472128
Is that a bot post, or just a moron?

>>96468634
Don't lie. It's half-assed pseudo-rome with anachronistic technology/culture/etc. and a heavy layer of the lamest generic fantasy slop slathered over everything.

>96472169
triggered mutt lol

>>96472169
evidently just a retard

>>96438130
>And even if they did, they will do it their own way like they did with the Les Grognards heavy weapon team where they can technically be used in 40k
See those three mounted guns?
The one with the coils is the lasgun, the double barrel is an autocannon, and the last one is a heavy bolter proxy.
Those three have appeared in the cannon fodder heavy weapons STL pack too.
I think they're WGA's go-to heavy weapons and they somewhat looks passable as 40k heavy weapons.

But for now we have to wait and see if WGA will even release the heavy weapons for their Roman guys at all. What they release in what order is pretty schizophrenic of them.

>>96437372
>Roma ad Astra

Yep that's the one. I'd really think it wouldn't be hard to give those guys a classic roman paint job and use it as imperial guards
The maker kinda lost it when he added greek helmets as "romans" and fantasy creatures to the range but I feel like that still the best sci-fi roman range

>>96472128
>They weren't white

>>96478607
>Mediterranids were white!
>...if you ignore the prevalence of non-white skin tone from Spain, southern Portugal, Greece, western Turkey and Syria, coastal Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, and Morocco
>Yeah! Somehow in the center of this non-white area the pvre and trve Romanus, my ancestors who wouldn't be ashamed of my fat body and feeble mind at all, existed as the sole exceptional instance of caucasoids!

>>96430520
>>96437372
Would Xenos Rampant be a good system to utilize these dudes?

Spartacus did nothing wrong

Alaric was right.

>>96430520
>Death Fields Romans
I guess Wargames Atlantic's The Damned are the Germans to them.

>>96472073
Did that clip used to get played on the history channel? Fuckin love Kieth Davids voice acting and knew he had done some historical stuff but this tickled an old memory

>>96486759
That's my assumption. He does a good job of giving voice to the ineffably numinous nature of God.

>>96468525
beni(s)

>>96472073
>Pompey entered a most sacred place and was left with the unnerving idea that the Jewish God was too large to be contained within the building.
They just thought jews (and later christians) were atheists. Which they essentially are by Roman (and more broadly European) standards.

>>96480572
>guys literally described as blonde, whose statues look White, whose religion is nearly identical to that of other Whites, who describe themselves as White and who speak a language in the same family as all the other Whites aren't White because they live near a sea that also borders brown semites

Been thinking of running a campaign in pic related, I think the combination of the mythos and a time where superstition and magic was something people genuinely believed in is pretty cool.

>>96454867
Just need some Han dynasty warrior minis and my dream clash of empires can happen on the tabletop.

>>96489914
>Romans vs Han dynasty warriors.
There was a bad movie called Dragon Blade that explored such a concept.
Lion Rampant may be the miniature agnostic game for such conflicts, but I think they will be skirmish sized. It is medieval focused though so maybe some homebrew would be necessary.

>>96430520
Anybody know when these will be in hard plastic?

>>96486590
That actually would be a very fitting matchup against the Space Romans. Plays into the theme of Rome being civilization and the barbarians being the uncivilized violent masses if that's your thing.

Now if only WGA would finally release those models. They've been in not!Kickstarter development Hell for a while.

>>96494209
>>96486590
>the barbarians being the uncivilized violent masses
Barbarian did not mean primitive savage. It meant foreign-speaker.
Even if we discard Tacitus' account as being a bit fanciful and biased in favor of the Germans, barbarians surpassed the Greeks and/or Romans according to their own accounts in several technological areas.

>>96494571
I should have worded my post better. I'm sure you're right.
I guess if I had to rewrite my post I would say something along the lines of The Damned being Germans versus the Death Fields Romans plays into how the Romans felt about themselves versus the rest of the world with them being the beacon of civilization and the rest being savage outsiders.
If they even thought of themselves that way with little exceptions.

But thank you anyways, anon.

>>96494597
I appreciate it. I'm just pedantically rescuing the reputation of ancient peoples ruined by hollywood. It's like the mudcore medievalisms of everyone wearing brown sackcloth and being muddy. It drives me nuts.
The whole "beacon of civlization" vs "subhuman savages" is largely a jewish, and therefore later, christian, mytheme. See "tikkun olam" for example. Pre-christianization, Rome is unlikely to have held such views, given how eagerly they adopted and syncretised from everyone they came into contact with.
The classic example being that there is essentially nothing Roman about an archetypical Roman legionary (pic not rel): his armour is Celtic, his helmet is Gallic, his sword is Iberian, his shield is Italic, etc.

>>96495109
>I'm just pedantically rescuing the reputation of ancient peoples ruined by hollywood.
I totally get it. I guess Hollywood has tainted my view on the Romans and instead I ought to pick up a book. Any recommendations?
I partly want to read because I’m in a Romaboo phase and I want to take inspiration for my setting.

>>96497344
I'm only a hobbyist level Romaboo, but I tend to avoid secondary sources like the plague. Everyone has an agenda (even the primary sources typically do, but at least that's only one agenda you have to account for, not two or three). I mostly study Greco-Roman theology and mythology as part of my comparative studies (I'm really more of a holistic Euroboo) and for RPG inspiration, so that's your Homer, Hesiod, Ovid and Apollodorus and their sort. Herodotus is a really good source of inspiration to populate a sword and sandal RPG setting, since he describes all sorts of less well known ethnic groups. For specifics on Roman history, I think Livy is considered the go-to guy, but I could be wrong. For opinions on western European barbarians, Caesar, Tacitus and the anything on the Cimbrian War comes to mind.

If you're a visual sort of guy, then the Osprey books are the ones with the consistently most appealing illustrations I've found. Nothing beats a trip to the museum and glyptotheque though.

Hope this helps, and don't hesitate to ask any questions. Maybe Romaboos of higher power levels can also add their two sesterces.

>>96497344
dont be fooled
if you went back in time they would treat you like dirt
you can tell because they all talked with that smarmy british accent

>>96454867
the only thing i hate more than furies are kings
and the only thing i hate more than kings
are emperors

>>96487182
what he said or something i guess
i dunno i mostly do bombs

>>96498447
seething phoenician detected

>>96430520
Are these 40k size?

>>96498960
28mm so most likely.