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>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
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>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Gay Bolas
https://e621.net/post/index/1/nicol_bolas

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Make custom cards
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https://mtg.design
https://mtgcardsmith.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
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>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: Do you pay the 2?

>>96469762 (OP)
>white hand
Oh thank God

I never pay the two

>>96469769
Sorry. Forgot card

>>96469762 (OP)
No and I'm also casting every single cantrip in my hand :)

It's happening

>>96469762 (OP)
>2
No. It's too much. The 1 to prevent card draw is acceptable. 2 to prevent a one time use mana is not worth it.

>>96469762 (OP)
I always pay my taxes, and then dedicate every single resource I have towards making sure that player dies first.

>>96469778
nice that was the first thing I thought of when I saw weapons manufacturing

>>96469775
Wow, that's a cool card anon do you want to get some coffee and chat about commander later?

>>96469778
Weapons Manufacturing is based. Goes hard in Shao Jun

Tifa is love. Tifa is life.

When you try to blink out your deck do you go for the oldest version? Secret lair over special guest? UB? Date stamped? Like for the OPs smothering tithe there's that one, a different borderless, anime girl, confetti, spongebob.

>>96469814
animeslop when wotc makes it: :O
animeslop when I make it: >:<

>>96469840
>YOU HATE ANIME SLOP YOU HYPOCRITE
No, I don't. What a weird thing to assume.

If I can get an Esper Mayhem land then this entire set will be worth it in my eyes. Hope it's not only this one at least.

>>96469814
7th edish/retro borders > promo foils (gp, judge etc) > myth archive/inventions etc > nufoils frame > secret lair > ub sloppa

>>96469778
Oo brother you're cooking. I have been thinking of making a Sevriss street urchin deck myself. I opened weapons manufacturing at prerelease and haven't figured out the best way to build around it, other than Ragost, who is boring.

>>96469769
>(((white))) hand
ok

>>96469851
>Land - Town
how hard would that have been

>>96469873
ancient meme spotted

This is actually really nice, one of the best cancels out there

>>96469878
One building does not a town make

I WILL say "Spider-Sense is tingling!" every time I cast this.

>>96469878
This should at least count right?

>>96469885
that's where you're wrong kiddo

>>96469902
Oh boy. New card for Greensleeves.

>>96469902
how long until we can have an entire landbase of evolving wilds clones?

>>96469778
I don't get the hype, or I'm not understanding the combo. Doesn't it rely on generating infinite mana first, and then just going single-target over and over and over?

>>96469878
You must understand. Final Fantasy was being designed 5 years ago. Final Fantasy team and Spider-Man team had no way to contact one other. Maybe in 5 years when the set being designed now releases we can see Towns again.

I'm gonna make a garbage as fuck Dimir villains deck that can't beat a precon

>>96469762 (OP)
I'm not playing bracket 3 or higher, so I guess no?

>>96469919
Aren't we just at 3 so far?

interesting buildaround

>>96469861
Bare minimum each munitions token is a Lightning Bolt with Street Urchin

>>96470015
Is this set seriously like 90% legendary creatures and the rest random garbage???

>>96470028
it's both at the same time

>>96470015
this is just ivy with extra steps and more restrictions

Think he could be a good hatebears/stax commander?

>>96470043
don't be a retard

>>96470058
Grumpy old man is boring, I want the constant threat a fucking up someone's combat math with tappy shenanigans.

>>96470028
to be fair, there are some creatures that should be legendary, but aren't.

>>96470067
okay, he won't be good though which is what you asked

>>96470039
It isn't, at all

>>96470074
He doesn't have to be perfect. I've just been wanting a nice mono white deck and he looks more appealing than any Thalia or Michiko. It's pretty much down to him or Anti-Venom, and the latter feels harder to build around.

>>96469827
Anime > Judge > Double > Ravnica > CMM > Enchanted Tales > Spongebob

>>96470015
>finally make a commander playable card in the set
>it's a character no one knows of or cares
Amazing. Couldn't this have been like, Mysterio or some shit?

>>96470015
This guy could be interesting. Sort of like that simic doctor guy but with incremental growth. Also doesn't have the "Once Per Turn" thing I would have thought they'd give something like this.

Finally.../edhg/ has something it could never get in real life

>>96470109
You have terrible taste anon stay away from mono white please.

>make piru kamikaze deck
>ff was 90% legendary creatures
>spiderman is 70% legendary creatures
>avatar is probably going to be 90% legendary creatures
i hate it

>>96470181
Even the commons are legendary now.

>>96470187
>now

Shelob bros.. our time has come

>>96470139
>noooo it's not the RIGHT capeshit character

>>96470216
>da joos
Schizo post

>>96470181
Used to be worse.

>>96470187
>23 cards where the rarity is equal to common and the card types include “legendary” and the card types include “creature”
>now

>>96470011
>exact clones
Evolving Wilds
Terramorphic Expanse
Vibrant Cityscape

>come in untapped clones
Fabled Passage
Prismatic Vista

>clones with alternate ability
Escape Tunnel

>semi clones that search for specific basic land
Panoramas (Bant Esper Grixis Jund Naya)
Landscapes (11 variations)

And that's not getting into things like the Capenna panormas. The playerbase will never admit it but lands were a major design mistake and it's obvious the devs wish they didn't have to build around them.

>>96470181
The following also could have been legendary
>Supportive Parents (Miles Parents)
>Daily Bugle Reporters (Black guy who works for Jonah)
>Guy in the Chair (Genki or whatever)
>Masked Meower (Are there multiple spider cats?)
>Mechanized Mobster (Named in flavor text)
>Merciless Enforcers (Named in flavor text)
>Selfless Police Captain (Gwen Stacy's dad)
>Skyward Spider (I don't know who this is but I doubt this isn't a specific person)
>Web Warriors (Literally depicting numerous legendary creatures)

>>96470145
can't make this shit up

>>96470246
You can't make up that /edhg/'s parents hate them?

>>96469814
Original printing (if classic border) foils ig possible > promo foils > regular foils > UB foils if property I enjoy (ie fallout) > standard modern printing - anime goonslop

I have 2 RL cards and pic rel in foil and they get far more compliments than anything modern in my deck

What tribe should I build?

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

>>96470256
time lords

Gotta say its funny that Wizards obviously thought Mavel was going to be THE UB set. Not only they accepted the horrible deal with disney that they can't use anything Marvel in online-game clients, but they also already have a bunch of Marvel sets planned (we know this because of the Infinity Stones presumably being one per set). Meanwhile by this point in its spoiler season, FF was already the best selling MTG set OF ALL TIME. Sure wish you had made a bunch of FF sets or other collaborations with SE instead huh, you dumb fucks. Capeshit hasn't been relevant for half a decade

>>96470280
I don't think that at all or they would have designed it for their most popular format.

>>96470280
Even better how the first set is Spider Man so like half the creatures have the spider type so you get shit like this.

>>96470280
If the FF set had zero commander decks and was an aftermath set changed in the middle of production, it would have flopped.

>>96470280
Nobody in my circle seems to care about it. People seem to be more excited about Avatar.

>>96470323
No one I know cares about either since neither are popular IPs

>>96470295
He calls himself Captain Universe. The story where he got the powers is called the Cosmic Spider-Man Saga or something like that, but he wasn't just called Cosmic Spider-Man. But I don't read much Dan Slot and try to forget what I have read of his work so maybe that wasn't the case in the few appearances this version of Spider-Man had before he jobbed. Still however, card should be called Captain Universe.

>>96470295
Fat Zur and the Giga Spider

>>96470280
On paper Marvel is the property that would have had the widest possible appeal. That the movies exist means the franchise has some roots and tendrils in mainstream notice. It makes sense that Wizards would have thought that would translate into new sales and new players. Break them into an untapped market. It makes sense that they'd think Marvel would be the more profitable franchise rather than Final Fantasy. However it's clear Wizards didn't take into account the possible overlap that would exist between people who play video games and people who play card games and how much profit there was to make there. Regardless of how this Avatar and Spider-Man / Marvel thing do I imagine we'll be getting either more Final Fantasy or see them trying some other noteworthy video game series.

>>96470323
I think part of the problem is set identity. Spiderman is full of mechanics involving throwing cards back into your hand or out of your graveyard, which means like most any legendary with that shit on it is going to be 99 fodder unless it's specifically juiced for the command zone. The rest is niche singles.

Maybe the limited environment might be cool, but I don't frankly like spiderman enough to play a prerelease or draft of all these spidermen and/or spiderwomen.

So basically this is like EoE for commander, but even worse because they have no precons to slap down on a table.

>>96470323
Do you play formats besides commander? Because this is the least commander focused set I have seen in years. Goes out of its way to make cards unplayable in the format.

>>96470352
Yeah and Zodiark is astrally-aspected, they don't fucking care.

>>96470280
>>96470359
There's also the issue that the marvel crossover is frankly, half a decade, or more, too late. Marvel struggled to find its footing after Endgame, moved onto floundering a few years ago, and has only been going downhill since. Occasionally you will get a movie that actually does well (Which are coincidentally, pretty much always spider-man movies) but trying to squeeze multiple sets out of a dying franchise is going to end up biting Hasbro in the ass. Hard.

>>96470466
What a dumb post.

>>96470466
Yes. We're seeing the consequences of these deals apparently taking several years to pan out. Odds are this deal was initiated earlier when the franchise had just seen it's largest high and had only started to decline. I don't think Wizards had any idea how much the franchise would sink afterwards. That being said, Spider-Man is a strong enough name it may still pan out for them. It may even be why they lead with Spider-Man instead of a general Marvel themed set.

>>96470480
Yeah, I'm not going all doom and gloom for spidey, since he's more or less Marvel's Batman. Somehow able to make money no matter what they throw at the fucker.
Everything that follows? Probably not gonna be worth the licensing fee. Especially if they made the terrible decision to try and focus on post-endgame marvel stuff, which they're likely contractually obligated to do.
Ya think Hasbro would've learned from Star Wars but... ah well!

>>96470490
I guess it depends on what aspects they focus on. If they break these up by theme or not. I imagine they could still get some mileage out of an X-Men themed set for instance. By the time they get to something Avengers themed enough time would have probably passed that it would be nostalgic for some which could also get some extra push. It looks like Spider-Man is designed as the introductions hook set to get new players with it's intro decks and the like. I'd assume the next Marvel sets will feel more like full sets instead of the micro sets this one is seemingly shaping up to be.

>Want to make a commander deck out of the old premium sliver deck I found
>Figure I'll make it cheap, just get the bare necessities and a few big cards
>end up spending a total of 200€ on cards
Fuck. Well, just missing gravemother and queen from the collection, and I need to find a thrumming hive pool sometime. The sliver version of kindred dominance is metal as hell. Had to grab one when I found out about it.

>>96470508
The issue is that, while marvel definitely has a dedicated audience, it's not a "Multiple sets" level of dedicated audience. The heydey of the avengers movies is long over, and they not only utterly failed to permanently capture that audience to any degree, but from what I've heard, pissed off their core demographic and caused that to wither away. The audience that Hasbro though they'd be tapping into when they signed those contrats just... flat out doesn't exist anymore. And since they basically gave disney everything they wanted, I wouldn't be surprised if the representation of the X-Men would be kept to an absolute minimum

kinda niche and shit but think he might be fun? looking at random obscure commanders to spice it up

>>96470280
>FF is the best selling magic set of all time
Thats fucking depressing. Could it be that the Pokémon scalpers have also hit MtG now? - aside from FF being huge in Asia

>>96470531
haha no

>>96470280
FF did well because FF boomers hardly have anything to spend money on anymore unless they play XIV. meanwhile, the entire planet has been experiencing marvel/capeshit fatigue for years now. it also helps that FF fits fairly well with MTG aesthetics from 10 years ago, so it isn't that offensive to see in the game for enfranchised players as opposed to a teenager in spandex swinging through manhattan on a card. i doubt FF would have STAYED successful. if they printed multiple FF crossover sets they would have done worse every time as the FF boomers stopped caring.
>>96470534
scalpers have been hitting mtg for years, bud. the reason FF did so well is because FF boomers are starved for things to spend money on while being older and having more disposable income for stupid shit.

>>96470531
not enough flanking to make him worth it. Go for this guy instead if you want obscure combat keywords and interactions

>>96470543
fuck ye youre right there is a shockingly low amount of flanking creatures in red, thats a shame i really like his art

>>96470230
You're not wrong but that in itself has led to more issues where colorfixing has become so easy that unless you're ending the game on turn 3 you can safely run a 5c pile.

>>96470230
>lands were a design mistake
You don't like magic, try another game

Instead of playing lands you reveal a card from your hand and put it on the bottom of your library and a get a land token for one of that card's colors.

>>96470594
>companions were a design mistake
You don't like magic, try another game

When are they going to add back door partners to existing cards?

>>96470594
>>96470616
>designs were a magic mistake
your both drooling tards

>>96470622
>Fallout esque body suit
>Bolt Pistol looking gun
>Aphex Twin grin
is this Shit-I?

>>96470616
>single release of a small number of creatures introducing a new mechanic
vs
>literally one of the core tenants of the entire game that has been fundamental since the dawn of it
Yeah, you don't like magic.

>>96470280
Spider-Man is still one of the most popular brands worldwide, retard. Keep seething
Little kids wear Spider-Man hats, shoes etc. All the fucking time. Because they or their parents love Spider-Man. Last Spider-Man movie was a massive hit and created its own new surge of covid

>>96470594
I would love to, but all the other games are competitive 1v1s which I am not interested in and even if I were their playerbase is miniscule compared to MtG and especially Commander so it'd be me pissing into the wind trying to convince my friends to start a pod or finding non-annoying nerds to play with in my (relatively) small city.

MtG was the first and its playerbase is captured due to sunk cost and trying to make cardboard their investments so there will never be a true competitor to jump ship to even if they have great game design. I've long come to peace with this, but that doesn't stop the fact the lands system of generating mana is the worst possible way to do it and was an exceptionally stupid design decision.

>>96470256
Do you want tribes that will actually get regular updates and can win?
>humans elves goblins merfolk zombies dragons

Do you want tribes that are soulful and have enough good cards that they're viable even though they rarely get updates and those they get usually suck?
>faeries vampires angels werewolves plants/fungus/saprolings sea creatures

>>96470644
>the lands system of generating mana is the worst possible way to do it
what are some better ways to do it while still having multiple types of mana?

>>96470677
is big angels any good or is it just suboptimal reanimator

>>96470644
The land system is literally why I play the game. Without lands, you get shit like YuGiOh. Do you have any suggestions for something better or just pitching? Have you done any research on resource systems for other games that would work? Or are you just crying about lands? Because no one wants your tears.

>>96470644
There's a lot that goes into why lands work well as a system and if your claim is that it is "the worst" there is no point in having a discussion about it.

The only thing that is strictly annoying about lands is how WOTC is on a quest to take some really nice lands and to NOT FUCKING PRINT THEM.

>>96470378
Well they doubly fucked up because all I've read and heard about UB from non-Commander players is how much they hate UB coming into Standard and Modern and they blame Commander for being the source of UBshit (they're not wrong). So WOTC is being especially retarded trying to aim UB at non-Commander formats.

>>96470681
It's always good with Giada or Kaalia.

>>96470689
You are in a bubble

>>96470683
>>96470680
This Anon's suggestion >>96470603
is fun and simple, though it's just pitch that goes back into the library instead of a side stack. Mana flooding/screw is simply something that shouldn't exist, I've never once ever seen anyone at the table enjoy when it happens and there is absolutely nothing you can do to ensure it never happens even if you math out the optimal amount of lands in your deck. It's just shit design period. Even sacred Garfield admits its bad and dumped it for his later designs.

>>96470677
not that anon, but i am currently in the process of building a clerics and angels deck. there is enough mechanical overlap between the two that i think i can get away with a janky build. still trying to decide if i should go orzhov or if i should go mardu.
>orzhov
highest density of meaninful clerics and angels. would either play firja because she is card advantage and she is both of the tribes i want to put in the deck OR i would play burakos+folk hero for card advantage and ramp.
>mardu
kaalia is a cleric and she cheats costs on angels. lots of good boros angels, too. some interesting clerics with the addition of R.

>>96470681
It's not even suboptimal reanimator, it's just suboptimal period. There is very little synergy among angels. They are wildly overcosted. They heavily lean toward monowhite so its going to be a very slow deck. They're not stompy enough to be a real threat even if you have 3 or 4 out. Most of their abilities aren't good. There's only a handful of generally good angels out there and most of those are very outdated. Just compare any of them to what a monored or monogreen Dragon player gets to bring to the table, nevermind how much support 2+ color dragon decks get. At this point even birds are better, thanks to the numerous excellent birb tribal cards FF gave and how often we get a good new bird card in sets.

>>96470715
I like the design space and deckbuilding questions that lands create, the ability for your mana base to do other stuff. Yeah it sucks to flood or screw but ultimately lands are just more interesting than a guaranteed mana system is.
t. hearthstone zoomer

>>96470731
I use Esika because it hurts too much to leave out Sigarda and Shalai and green just has too many borderline necessary tools to make pure Angel decks viable. There's no better feeling than t4/5 Defense of the Heart going off and being able to dump Sephara and Avacyn onto the table and watching everyone scramble to find an exile effect.

>>96470677
I was thinking something like the latter, something that can win and plays well, preferably 2-3 colors but I hope they're not locked being one color pair.

I can't wait to make money selling photos.

>>96470748
i want the clerics in there too, though. i almost would prefer a pure clerics deck, but it isn't totally viable yet, so having a crossover between the two tribes is fun. it is hardly a competitive deck, but i like to have decks that i can face against newbies with precons.

>>96470683
Not him but didn't hearthstone literally solve this by just giving you one more "land" per turn?
That does seem superior to what we have

>>96470683
Duel masters did it best

>>96470773
>That does seem superior to what we have
only if you're gay.

>>96470773
single type of mana feels very simplistic

>>96470763
>creature you control
*yawn*

>>96470139
This is a comic book based set, not you're animated shows and gay movies.
This cunt was behind the clone saga, and everyone knows into the comics knows this so eat a fart, guy.

>>96470798
No one cares.

WHY THE FUCK IS THE FIRST MOEBIUS ART A SPIDERMAN CARD? WHY THE FUCK DO WE NOT GET A MOEBIUS SECRET LAIR LIKE FRANK FRAZETTA GOT?

>>96470783
It's more akin to every deck being monocolor.

Which anime would you like to see as a UB?
Not which one you think is most likely, but which one you personally think would be cool.

>>96470819
IT'S MORBING TIME

>>96470852
escaflowne

>>96470852
Dragon Ball

>>96470878
El Hermano... he's too strong...

Comics are so fucking gay.

Bolas is so fucking gay.

>>96470852
Fate
Could do some kind of variant partner mechanic for master/servants

Fantasy is so fucking gay

>>96470852
Full Metal Alchemist

>>96470230
I mean, it's not like they can just up and delete lands at this point. WOTCs solution is to just make everything mana fix and vomit out treasures these days, which is fine I guess.
I personally just have to learn to stop keeping 2 landers like a greedy fucker.

>>96470777
This, WOTC solved this problem themselves two decades ago. You just play your card upside down as your land for the turn.
The game is dead in the west though, and I don't think it has a digital client.

>>96469808
Very nice. I got two tifa decks now with proxy mega tiddie tifa.

>>96470819
Because the budget for BAZINGA NERDSHIT FUNNY third party licenses is far higher than anything else

>>96470295
not bad but the 5 color manabase people might just run other 5 color commanders except the capeshit fans

>>96470280
>>96470633
>>96470359
The difference is real nerds vs fake OMG BAZINGA LE AVENGER MOVIE NO SPOILERS BRO nerds. Final Fantasy was already in the purview of people who have played magic before. A mistake a lot of boomers and midwit marketing people make is looking at the success of one thing and then assuming the crossover will happen without understanding why it will happen other than "X things is popular and seems like X people do both things". The number of normtards who will spend 20 bucks to see a movie or Mom's buying their kids shit from Target doesn't translate to a card game like Magic. Magic cards haven't become status symbols like Pokémon cards have. Normies want to talk about their headcannon and "bro who would win" debates. Not play magic. Little kids aren't going to buy a random single with a Spiderman character on it like they do Pokémon cards they like. The mainstream appeal of capeshit doesn't translate. The set will still do well but the larger normie audience was never there to begin with.

>>96470819
Is this supposed to be a good artist?

>>96470680
Dragonball Super's TCG has the best system I've seen. Each turn you pick one of your cards in hand to use as energy, and it produces energy of whatever color the card is. So you're never screwed or flooded, you just have to decide which card is least valuable at the time. There's single and multi-colored cards so you have a lot of options.

Going to play this to troll, I love this card and commander is the only format I would ever play it in

>>96470145
>le mixed race couple

Mark is always so obvious

>>96471082
>le no mixed couples exist
why does this offend you so much?

There are downsides to Magic's mana system but people really underestimate how much it contributes to the game. To begin with it means decks can play different amounts of lands, which creates a fundamentally different experience than you would get in a different game. That is also true for colors and how many colors to play/how a manabase is constructed. You might splash white in your RB deck for one card so play few sources, and so on.

More controversially, people underestimate how much they enjoy the inherent randomness of lands. Both because it builds in variance so they don't have to add more of it to cards like Hearthstone, and the randomness itself. Coming back when you started off manascrewed is one of the peak experiences in magic, learning how to play when constrained by mana, learning how to build and play to mitigate flood, etc.

tl:dr players are idiots and don't know what they want. There is a reason nothing dethrones Magic

>>96471088
because it's bad for white people to mix with black people and lower the genetic quality of our race

what sort of answer were you expecting

>>96471104
I wasn't expecting you to be so open about the false premise, honestly. Besides, it's a drawing, no one is "mixing" here, it's depicting one of millions of random families that look like this.

>>96471120
those families shouldn't exist and are portrayed vastly out of proportion to their numbers as propaganda because libs think they need to "normalize" it

in reality the opposite should happen

>>96470819
Thats spiderman friend

>>96471130
I'm not going to engage with someone who openly just thinks that families that want to be together "shouldn't exist" when there is nothing wrong with it, but also
>libs
>propaganda
>normalize
It's not really abnormal to begin with, and portraying them now isn't "disproportionate", and especially considering they were straight up never portrayed before, so you're just being hyper-vigilant to how it's different than previously. It makes no difference either way if the family on there is mixed or not, so why be upset about it?
>the opposite should happen
You're strange

>>96471020
yes.

EDH thread is noticeably more bluepilled than the arena thread, interesting


Confirms many of my suspicions about EDH

>>96471157
>looks like complete shit
ok

>>96471158
Being angry all the time about imaginary shit is bad for your health. Raised blood pressure, lowered testosterone, early balding, stress lines in your face, having nothing to talk about with friends, spending way too long ranting etc. It's better to be laid back and let the world keep turning, brudda.

>>96471180
Nah, I'm going to help save the white race and cause the far right take over the west. I feel great about this and it puts a spring in my step

>>96471190
Anon, this is probably the last time I'm going to reply before we both end up getting hit by the janny. Nothing is happening to the white race, no one is taking over anything, everything is fine and comfy. Take a seat, tell me about your commander decks.

>>96471146
The nose knows.

>>96471202
Idk the UK seems kinda fucked, and is a canary in the coal mine for multiculturalism.
The sky isn't falling but it's not all rainbows and sunshine either.

>>96470819
i miss ciruelo...

>>96470230
I like the fact that there are so many budget fetches.

>>96470240
As a comic fan I actually really appreciate how they used real characters for the generic non legendary creatures.

>>96471202
NTA but my home town went from 90% whites to almost a 30/70 mix of Hispanic and whites. That's in a little over a decade.....

>>96471470
>people are naturally mixing and integrating
this is a good thing

>>96470352
Dan Slott didn't write The Cosmic Spider-Man Saga nor did he have anything to do with it. It was a early 90's subplot of the Acts of Vengeance crossover.

i dont care about UB as long is fantasy related
capeshit is the complete opposite of fantays, its power trips of nerds that shoulda been bully more, they are creative bankrumpt, even nerds should bully whoever the fuck read comics
And since manchildren will scalp the shit out of this it will be every year and beyond
I shoulda been a bigger asshole and bully the nigger who non ironically read batman

>>96470531
>looking at changing ONE (WAN((((1))))) card to spice things up
Have you considered using the 99 to spice things up and not being a pathetic fag desperately trying to look special

Mister Negative

Vigilance, Lifelink

When ~ enters, you may exchange your life total with target opponent. If you lose life this way, draw that many cards.

>>96470715
>pitch cost with literally no downside
Absolutely terrible lmao. The entire point of a pitch cost is you are making decisions. You have taken all the decision making out of it for a fucking baby game lmao

>>96470852
Yugioh, magic's card design is already at that point so it would be right at home :^)
Unironically though. You could translate in a ton of cool mechanics and cards between the two like anon's magical hats from last thread, gold sarcophagus could be a 3 step saga, you could make some meld cards of fusion monsters (IMAGINE a 3 part meld card for blue eyes ultimate dragon that has 3 seperate "blue eyes, [epithet]"s or maybe have a "polymerization, [epithet]" as a sorcery that counts for 2 part meld card to stretch it a little.)
I'm not going to pretend I know anything beyond boomer shit for yugioh though. Not like yugioh does collabs with anything but their boomer shit however.

>>96470715
>even Garfield
Ive seen this stated. Never seen the source except for dead links. Considering he never did anything about it its safe to say it was never stated.

>>96471146
>nothing wrong with it
Mixing has physical and mental side effects. Some so serious they are life threatening. Try getting an easy donor as a mixed breed person. Shockingly, it is much much harder.

>>96471180
>>96471202
Denying reality doesnt negate stress. Just lets you ignore it. The world is still stressing you no matter how "non chalant" of a face you put on.

Also you got brainwashed by society into not caring thinking it makes you look cool lol

>>96471518
>Considering he never did anything about it
what do you think he's supposed to "do about it"? barge into wotc's offices and make them change the game? he had a contract with them to make the game, then he stopped working on it. I'm NTA, I haven't read interviews by him, but I know he's stated stuff like instants shouldn't have been a separate card type publicly before and he's made other games that are similar (I have no idea how keyforge plays).

>>96471202
>Nothing is happening to the white race
How's the weather in Tel Aviv rabbi?

>>96471570
>design something
>dont like an aspect of it
>dont change it
Pretty obvious id say

>>96470508
X-Men will rake in money if they go hard on the 90s nostalgia.

>>96471586
>Have a contract to do a thing
>Make your money
>Leave
>Say the thing you made is flawed now that you have your money and don't give a fuck
>Continue to make a bunch more shit and make more money off dumb corpos trying to make their own cardboard slop and use your name as a selling point
The based view makes sense to me.

>>96470715
if we did the FoW thing in commander, what do you think that would change?
besides fucking with aggro/voltron to a point where they're barely playable.

>>96471627
More room for garbage pet cards in my deck. They're going down as "lands" 99% of the time but they'll be there in spirit and make me smile.

>>96471623
>describe the way a jew would act
>call it based
Sure thing! Personally, me, id design something i liked.
>>96471698
Gutless

>>96471698
you seem to have misunderstood, not what that anon said -the basically duel masters way. force of will had a separate deck for lands and 'tap your not-commander in the command zone to put the top card of your land deck into play'. their not-commanders also would be put onto the battlefield for some cost and had some other abilities that they tapped for, like really specific hate.

This seems pretty neat, might go in my axonil deck

>>96471760
Honestly I really like how Wayne draws Spider-man.

>>96471760
>I support your right to bear arms
M-M-Marvel sisters?? WHO APPROVED THIS!?

>>96471784
It's either a Werebear joke or just an actual line Spidey's said. Or both.

>>96471497
Mister Positive
Enters the battlefield tapped with 100 stun counters.
When ~ enters, you may exchange your stun counters with target opponent. If you put at least 10 stun counters on every land they control, draw a card for each permanent you put a stun counter on.

>>96470109
You are a retard with terrible taste if you think any of the spiderslop cards are worth building a deck around. I'd be sure to take you out of the game ASAP if I had to play against you.

>>96471073
>put it, rex and cosmo in my apogee deck
>devastating onslaught patrolling peacemaker and norns decree
>word of seizing liliana
>Rex crash lands Lilianna into it's owner

I wish I could add magar

>>96471918
For increased zone fuckery

>>96471497
This guy is such absurd slop. Basically a one-card engine that draws your deck.

>>96470683
DCG solved it with the Memory system, playing more than you can spend on card cost means giving your opponent more ammo to spend for casting cards.

>>96471916
Flippity Flashidy, your creature is tappidy!

>>96471073
>playing with un-cards

You would be kicked from my table

>>96471955
I mean sure if you make a shitty lifegain deck lmao. The pods you play in.... people attack right?

>>96471970
Nobody will ever find this funny, not even you did.

>>96471970
LOL

>>96471988
You greatly overestimate the maturity and sobriety of my pod.

>>96471916
Flash is based just because he gives you a reason to roll up to a table of nerds and larp as their high school bully.

>>96470444
Zodiark is stll umbral. The detail about color theory instead of alignment charting in ShB was one of Ishikawa's dumbest contributions to the story and one of the times she tries to over explain things the players don't actually care about to the detriment of the overall narrative. We've already been given an emotional reason to want to bring the night sky back and we already know the light as it is in the First is not good and needs to be dealt with. Attempting to shoddily re-explain a magic system that has been with us since 1.0 just to make Urianger come to the same conclusion we've already gotten to wasn't worth the headache. It would have done less harm to the magic system to just say the combinations of elements into light or dark can be either umbral or astral based on how they're manipulated since we already understood astral and umbral were descriptors for things like eras. She did this whole dumb universal mechanics thing again with dynamis, one of the worst additions to any fiction I've ever come across.
So if the revelation was that light/dark could be either, Zodiark is Darkness-Umbral. He's comprised of all the elements and is trying to hold the laws of the planet's magic together after they were ripped apart by the Final Days. Bahamut would be an example of Darkness-Astral since he's a ferocious beast of pure magic with summoned instincts to destroy everything he sees. So if the Magic team didn't give enough of a shit to say "ackshually Zodiark is technically Astral since he's comprised of many colors mixing into black" they're more like the playerbase than not.

>storm player narsets peer into the abyss
>storm player casts grapeshot
>have leyline of anticipation, mirrari out
>cast pic rel after brief counterspell/mindbreak war
>storm player kills himself

>>96471981
>hey that's an uncard
>it's legal
>UH. I SAID NO.
>table ignores him

and then everyone clapped

>>96471491
Pretty much how I feel. I don't actually care if its UW/UB so long as it fits the setting. It's why I hate aetherdrift but don't mind FF. Despite never playing the games.

>>96472034
Except that isn't the case at all, since you are an even bigger nerd for getting excited over spider slop

>>96471491
>>96472064
Esl-kun please.

Why did nobody tell me new capenna had a precon with two new cat women?

>>96472080
because we know you're into bara furry dudes

>Sonics new racing game is also getting spongebob and avatar crossover slop
What other franchises whore out this hard? I imagine thats what the next UB set will be.

>>96472075
Nah, Spider-Man is an international franchise that everyone born in the past 60 years has grown up with. You just hate it because you're a contrarian nerd.

>>96472098
>redditbob

Go back

>>96472098
I see TMNT on the horizon.

>>96472052
Only in your pozzed table, show up in mine and it's goodbye to you

Do you guys ever get shit for using cards with "foreign" languages like Japanese or Phyrexian? This one guy at my LGS throws a tantrum about it.

I hate that I'm going to have to play this in my Simic Blink deck.

>>96472107
You grew up with Bratz and barbie as well anon
>>96472216
Why would you have to do that?

>>96472216
Just make a proxy doofus
Cards are only as cringe as you allow them to be

>>96472098
Makes more sense when you consider paramount and nickelodeon are buddy buddy so they set up for easy collabs and the sonic racing kart games have always been big on doing collabs. Remember when TF2 chars were in the sonic racing games.

>>96472172
That's Chadgod Squarejaw to you.

>>96472216
>we have Teferi's Protection at home

>>96471497
>want to play with my favorite villain
>he's pushed
goddamnit

>>96472228
You played with girls' toys as a kid? That explains a lot.

>>96471497

I see no way that playing this guy does not result in you instantly decking yourself. The lifegain decks that are built around gaining life are able to gain absurd amounts of life.

>>96472240
No but I never played with or read Spiderman and here I am supposedly growing up with him

This is getting ridiculous

>>96472238
7 mana to potentially draw a lot of cards (at mass loss of life) is in no way pushed.
>>96472248
Yeah definitely no way to manipulate your life total in orzhov

>>96472250
Not my fault you of ignore life to shove your nose in a textbook, Parker.

>>96472258
>wotc flavor text writers

>>96472258
I'm surprised the troons at wotc would even write that flavor text given how they're so scared of anything referencing guns they couldn't have any in the cowboy set

>>96472272
>>96472273
Significant chance it's a direct quote lifted from a Spidey comic.

>>96471760
>>96472258
>Same card
>Same replies about flavortext
I can see why these sets are targeted at morons.

>>96472270
My dude, if you have Necropotence out you already don't need him and all other life manipulation cards fucking suck other than plunge into darkness.

>>96472207
I have a Japanese showcase Starfield Vocalist. I keep a normal copy to reference. It's never really a problem as long as they have something to reference.
>>96472228
Being able to incidentally flicker non-creature artifacts by paying one more mana is pretty big since I'm playing Cryogen Relic and considering Coveted Jewel (since it's a stun deck). Being able to hold up a bunch of mana to Tefpro in the same slot is very big. It just happens to compress a bunch of roles into a single card.

>>96472316
>I hate
Im sorry you have no scruples anon.

>>96472258
>Getting bent out of shape that they but a comic accurate spiderman quip on a spiderman card

>>96472207
i have a bunch of textless cards and theres always someone who gets mad about cryptic

>>96472307
My dude, if necropotence is the first thing that comes to mind youre a filthy netdecker.
>plunge into darkness
Yeah just exile your library away when youre concerned with decking yourself. Were you dropped on your head as a child?

>>96472207
no
>>96472334
FUCK YOU

>>96472207
I have a folder on my phone with english versions of all my foreign cards so i can quickly pull up translations.

>>96472331
>he didn't get the joke

>>96471494
Take the stick out of your ass

Can't believe Maga got powercrept bros

>>96472422
Now that's a morbius

>>96472422
>They couldn't even give him protection from spiders even though he's the DEVOURER of spiders.
why?

>>96472422
>a vampire who eats spiders
These UW cards are hilariously bad.

>>96472444
It's literally not Morbius. He's actually entirely unrelated to Morbius. Morbius is technically not even a real vampire, but he's vampire-like enough.

>>96472216
Proxy the arena version

>>96472334
why are you webbed?

>>96472334
this website is for humans only

>>96472422
what sort of vampire eats spiders???

>>96472273
what about archangel of tithes?

>>96472582
The ones that like blue raspberry flavor

>>96472207
if you can quickly provide a reference and/or it's a simple card (no more than 3 lines of text), then I have no problem

>>96469762 (OP)
How the fuck do I draw in mono green?

>>96472683
Harmonize.

>>96472683
There's a bunch of cards that draw off creatures entering or draw based on the size of your biggest creature.

>>96472683
It depends on your strategy. Green has a lot of power matters draw spells/engines. Terrasymbiosis is big for +1+1 counters. Harominze is one of the only ignorant draw spells I can think of in green but there might be more now that I don't know about since the color pie is barely a suggestion in modern sets.

>>96472683
>>96472708
Oh yeah and Toski/Ohran Frostfang for combat.

>>96472683
beast whisperer, elemental bond, garruk's uprising, greater good, lifestream's blessing, shamanic revelation, herd heirloom, keen sense, trash the town, hunter's insight

>>96472683
there's a bunch of ways to draw for power, plenty of ways to draw for width, and several ways to draw whenever you make a creature

>>96472708
>herd heirloom
that thing marks the beginning of the end of regular mana rocks for me. sure, it's somewhat specialized, but it does ramp, draw and buffs with trample, all as an engine, 3 things in one measily little 2cmc rock.

>>96469762 (OP)
M-M-Maximum Carnage!

>>96472928
going in axonil as well so far that makes three cards

>>96472454
>make a spider tribal set
>add a creature with PROTECTION FROM SPIDERS????
never design a game in your life

>>96472928
I mean
it's fine? it seems fine

>>96472950
I'll get a job with WOTC and make a card about how huge of a faggot you're being right now

You know, it would be so fucking funny if Spiderman sold like shit. Please god.

>>96472956
It has enough chase cards to survive being ugly as sin.

>how do I Green?
Jesus christ...

>>96472975
probably fishing for youtube shorts content or an edhrec listicle or whatever

>>96472928
I can't even be mad about this set. It's so underwhelming I wouldn't want to put any of these cards in my deck if they had better art. I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything every spoiler that goes by is another fart in the wind. When's Lorwyn

>my LGS still has a shelf full of the aetherdrift prerelease boxes
Was it THAT unpopular??

Haven't played in some years.
Any recent Vampire commanders with this kind of feel/art?

>>96473029
Lorwyn is next year, we still have Avatar to get through.

Dr. Michael Morbius

>>96473102
HE'S BEGINNING TO MORB

>>96473102
>bottom of library
>UB
lmao

>>96473037
My LGS still has lots do Aetherdrift, Thunder Junction, Murders, Duskmourn and even Lost Caverns Prerelease Boxes.
Doesn't help that these tards charge 50-100% of what online sellers want for them.
The store is part of a chain and they literally never have sales. I bet they throw them out before trying to sell them at a discount

>>96473102
Well, if nothing else, I can put him in an Indominus Rex, Alpha deck.

>>96473102
my favorite part is when he exiles and stops morbing all over my cards

>>96473102
>1 toughness
nothing personell, kid

>>96473102
so why is one of spider-man's dudes just a vampire
where did "spider" and "vampire" intersect to make that a thing
do all the radioactive mutant animal people think he was bit by a radioactive vampire bat

Mardu mogs all other color combos so badly.
It has all the fun and cool cards.

https://moxfield.com/decks/du89lHNIdEO1JluCNQQcKA
Is there anything blindingly obvious I'm missing for blink in these colors?

>>96473102
>such an enormous side character, that his ability is almost entirely useless for him to be a commander
honest to god, I would watch his movie in the theaters again though

>>96473172
New flicker card

>>96473156
the actual vampire above actually feeds on totem animal concepts, morbius I think was a "science accident" vampire (I didn't watch the movie so I don't know)
most of spiderman's villains are just animal themed in other ways, a few notable ones mutated in some way, but a lot just have costumes

>>96473172
Yea
the fun

>>96473194
Down in considering. I don't make full shifts in and out of the main deck until I have the card in hand. It's why Master Transmuter is still in considering.

>>96473206
Ah, whoops. Didn't scroll down

Why do people think Slicer Hired Muscle is such a good card? Just block it with a bigger creature and it's dead.

>>96473370
you pass him to whoever controls the creature that can block him, or you use removal on it so slicer always connects

>>96470039
its litterally nothing like ivy.

>>96473102
not even on mardu or orzov to put as a meme card on vamp tribals decks
who the fuck designed this set, for real, its like it has no idea about the rest of magic

>>96471970
heh. thanks anon.

>>96473370
What a good post i think Im gunna print this one out and put it right on the fridge so everyone can see what a smart boy we have

>>96473102
ITS MORBIN TIME

>>96473370
Generally, you won't play Slicer onto a board with a creature big enough to deal with Slicer. And if you must for some reason, you just don't hand him off in that case and wait for it to be removed by other means, with your dumb robot now safe from creature wipes as a car.
Or you're playing him with a source of indestructible and that doesn't happen. Hammer of Nazahn is a very good card for him to have.

>>96473397
>>96473452
NTA and actual slicer question
I feel like I'm not getting something about him, won't opponents just take the option to not pass him and sit on the flip side?

>>96473171
>Mogs
You need to be 18 to post here

>>96473465
nevermind, I read the card.

>>96473465
Anon the Slicer player (the one who actually brought the deck) gets Slicer back at the end of every turn. He passes him around to damage his opponents. There is literally no point in ever sitting on it

>>96473465
slicer gets passed back to YOU at each endstep

>your turn
you control slicer
>opponent 1
upkeep: you give slicer away
endstep: slicer comes back to you
>opponent 3
upkeep: you give slicer away
endstep: slicer comes back to you
>opponent 4
upkeep: you give slicer away
endstep: slicer comes back to you

>>96473419
There are still better vampires

>>96473419
Weird post. When did you start playing?

>>96473518
what the actual fuck
who formatted that mana cost

Kek some nigga was talking about using this art for deflecting palm yesterday

This is extremely strong holy crap

>>96473588
God damn. You'd think they'd fuck it up by making it a sorcery but no.

Of course bant gets the broken land

They should make untapped trilands

>>96473588
>3 mana removal
>extremely strong
I'm not buying your gay ass capeshit set go shill on reddit

>>96473518
where are her tits

>>96473588
3 CMC spot removal is completely normal going rate. The only advantage this has over Overkill is that it doesn't go to the graveyard and consequently can't be recurred. Such a niche case doesn't put it anything close to strong.

>>96473638
love this lil guy like you wouldn't believe
exile niggers keep moving this is an indestructible neighbourhood

>>96473483
Uhm, acksually it's during cleanup, which is after end step.

Now that Spiderman is part of the universe, will he go gay for Bolas?

>>96473577
>borderless
>white text on white background
>paragraph

fuck off

>>96473588
Why is this black? Its a white or maybe blue effect

>>96473588
>3 mana and creature-locked
Surprised they didn't make it a sorcery to really ensure it's unplayable.

>>96473615
Only ETBs untapped if you control 1 of each equivalent basic land. Not fetchable either.

>>96473666
There's not going to be any valid explanation, the color pie as a concept is dead. It exists to be the 3 CMC black removal spell for limited. That's all.

>>96473654
Bolas will learn how to shoot his big sticky webs.

>>96473651
If you think preventing recursion is a "niche case" you are a fucking hopeless retard

>>96473704
There is an infinite spider verse so there is a Spiderman out there that will guzzle Bolas like a dirty slut.

>>96473669
Name a better black card, freak

>>96473588
Is this post a joke?

>>96473566
Someone based, hybrid mana is cool as fuck.
If you mean how it's organized it's based on the WUBRG color order from and has basically always been the rule. Using this card as an example.
Blue comes before black so the hybrid mana has the top-left as blue and the bottom-right as black. It's an inbetween of blue and black so it goes before the black pip.
Black pip is next in wuBrg.
Then similar to the first hybrid mana black is before red so it's split left to right accordingly and the placed after the black.
Think of hybrid mana symbols like half steps between WUBRG.
Enemy color pairs are a little funky and they go by which direction on the wheel is a shorter distance and attempt to skip a color but organized similarly based on the left most color in hybrid like pic.
Red comes before green in wubRG so it comes before the green pip.

Very early on in the game they just did whatever and in rare cases like cpt. america they reorganize them for flavor reasons.

>>96473731
it's either expertly crafted bait or viral marketing, which are effectively identical anno 2k25

>>96473675
Just make them so 3 damage to you on etb or something, i don't think having more consistent mana bases would really break the game

>>96473666
Occam's razor answer. Because the character's spots are black.

>>96473708
just run graveyard hate bozo it's not that hard
and certainly isn't worth spending 50% more mana on your removal

>>96473716
Fatal Push
Nowhere to Run
Vendetta
Snuff Out
Tragic Slip
Deadly Rollick (for fags)

>>96473790
>2 cards to do what one card does
>all decks run W
Holy dumbass

>>96473731
It's busted because it can tuck commanders

>>96473831
903.9b If a commander would be put into its owner’s hand or library from anywhere, its owner may put it into the command zone instead. This replacement effect may apply more than once to the same event.

>>96473831
If they're using recursion as a strategy you want real graveyard hate
If they're not then it doesn't matter anyway and you might as well run cheaper removal

p.s. you can return your commander to the command zone when it is tucked
put on top of library is way better for commander removal because you can combine it with forced shuffle to send the commander to the ass end of their deck

>>96473831
No it cant. Nothing can tuck a commander nowadays really

>>96473831
>graveyard hate belongs only to white
nigga

>>96473776
3 damage is nothing in commander, its why the modern horizon MDFCs are pretty much auto includes in any deck.
While I do like being able to cast my spells, if you make trilands too free then the downside of 4c/5c basically evaporate. Fetchable triomes already powercreep 5 color decks a lot.

>>96473886
for me it's ghost vacuum
hating in response always feels better than hating generically

>>96473898
My table's too used to Ghost Vacuum, it just gets hit by removal itself. At least the lantern can say "be that way, all your graves are gone then". Or give me a card back if there's nothing good to purge.

>>96473831
Being slightly better against GY decks is a good enough reason to fluff it up. You don't need to add more details that are wrong to the argument. The commander can just zap back to the command zone instead of going into the deck. The best way of removing commanders without killing them will always be chucking them into the moon.

Here's Silk. Her card sure is a card.
Silk the Webspinner
Legendary Creature - Spider Human Hero
Web-slinging {1}{G}{W}
Whenever you cast a creature spell, create a 1/1 green and white Human Citizen creature token.
{3}{G}{W}: Creatures you control get +2/+2 and gain vigilance until end of turn.

>>96473966
SILKSONG

>>96473966
Her power is spider pheromones that make Peter Parker go mad with horniness and fuck her repeatedly til she walks funny.

>>96473966
>its another selesnya legend that pumps out tokens and buffs dorks
I am tired of this meme, give me cool selesnya cards already.

>>96473898
For me it's Rest in Peace- a simple classic graveyard nuke.

>>96473981
Yeah they did away with that a while back and everybody in-universe is like "Okay that was super weird anyway". Very much 'the writer's thinly-disguised fetish'.

>>96473886
>>96473942
>50% more on removal
Not every deck can run swords to plowshares guys I don't know why that is your standard

>>96474012
swords costs 1 mana so this 3 mana removal would actually be 200% more than that

>>96473886
Function compression is good actually.

>>96473990
Play Naya instead.

>>96474012
Good creature removal in black is 2 CMC. Doom Blade, Go For The Throat, Shoot the Sheriff, Bitter Triumph, Infernal Grasp.

>>96474027
Jesus actual fucking christ you cannot be this dense

>>96474074
you fucked up basic math my dude I don't know what to tell you

>>96474074
I think you don't know what maths is

>>96473518
w h e r e b o o b a ?

>>96474073
Infernal Grasp and Bitter Triumph are good due to the lack of a conditional. The rest are just okay and are reaching the point where I'd only play them in Rakdos or Golgari. This new card has slightly better functionality than Infernal Grasp for one more mana which is alright.

>>96473419
miguel from lancer
this game is beans now

>>96474073
Every one of those fills the graveyard stupid

>>96473831
>it can tuck commanders
let's get you to bed, grampa

>>96474084
>>96474087
How are you running swords in a mono b deck nogames wigger?

>>96474043
I thought about copying that norin rocco naya deck from mtggoldfish, looks fun.

>>96473588
>>96473600
My favorite thing about UBTourists is watching them go wild over completely mid cards

>>96474140
And paying one more mana to not fill the graveyard is the exchange that's not particularly worth it. Welcome to the conversation, you're late.

So Marvelheads, when is Blade getting a card?

>>96474248
Probably in a later set. We dunno how many Marvel sets there'll be (I'm betting 3 more personally, X-Men, Avengers/General, then Fantastic Four/Cosmic) and Blade's likely to show up in a generalised Marvel set.

>>96474283
Luv me false gods

Well this seems good.

>>96474164
And then you told to leave or ignored by the other players. Is that what you wanted?

>>96474291
did you slot a temple in to your 40k decks

>>96474304
Wow that's freaking broken. Holy cow that's strong. Getting banned for sure.

>>96474233
to be fair to retard-kun black exile removal instants are all 4+ mana or conditional
this and archenemy's charm (a better card that still isn't great) are the only 3 mana ones afaik

Shouldn't you guys be glad that the set is mostly shit?
I for one would not feel happy if i was compelled to include a bunch of cards from a franchise i don't like in my deck.

>>96474349
I am absolutely happy it's mostly shit
I'm just disgusted it exists at all and enjoy a good complain session like any red-blooded anon

>>96472207
No, but I get some one at my LGS who throws a fit when I drop some of my hand draw proxies

>>96474334
Not that good. Just 'good'.

>>96474339
Black has many options for fucking over graveyards to begin with, including purging them or taking advantage of them yourself. The loss of a death trigger is as much a disadvantage to black as it is an advantage.

>>96473102
Has someone told Rata?

Yesterday's thread made me wanna build vampires too.
You guys got any fun underrated ones in mind that i could use with edgar?

>>96474304
Isn't there some green card that does this? Feels like a lot of color pie breaks in this set.

>>96473156
Vampires cos Blade. Shared universe, it happens.
The better question is how the fuck you square mutant oppression in X-men with all the heroes that are very well regarded in their comics.

The half solution they've come to is that while characters like Hulk and Spider-Man are "mutated" they're not "mutants" because they don't have the mutant gene. Still doesn't really answer how any member of the public would know the difference

>>96474408
Both are things Blue can do, though it definitely feels cheap.

>>96474304
>>96474334
Wow it's literally nothing

>>96474412
Genuinely there's a bacteria that makes people hate Mutants. And a lot of the time the Mutants bring their issues on themselves because they keep trying to make themselves a separate superior breed or some shit.

>>96472422
Me when I cast Morlun for 3 (total) mana.

>>96474429
>Genuinely there's a bacteria that makes people hate Mutants
>racism is a disease!
Leftist writers were a mistake

>>96474429
Also it's basically "If you're a citizen in an X-Men comic you hate the Mutants, if you're a citizen otherwise you just sort of run the gamut". It's a weird thing where the universe, despite being connected, is very 'sectioned-off'.

>>96474304
Please UBTourist stop. Just post the cards we dont need your ridiculous commentary

>>96474304
>>96474334
How about for just 1 mana more you untap, get hexproof, and become a copy of the biggest thing on the board?

>>96472950
>make a vampire tribal set
>AAAAAA is that a creature with PROTECTION FROM VAMPIRES???? I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW SHIT YOUR DESIGN IS WOTC AAAAA

>>96474304
Easy inclusion for Lyse Hext Volton.

>>96473061
mirko is the legendary vampire closest to that imo but he's pretty boring
maybe check out zagras

>someone lists a card far below market value
>buy it
>day later they send me a cancel request saying they're sorry but they actually don't have it anymore
Fucking bitch bro at least be honest that you accidentally listed it too low.

>>96474510
I hate UB piggies so fucking much

>>96473061
Ixalan vampires are close.

>>96474412
q: how can you tell if someone is a mutie?
a: they will tell you.

>>96472950
WOTC does this all the time

>>96473966
Actually excellent for my Katilda human tribal deck. I will however be proxying a much better art version.

>>96473990
This

>>96474594
Just wait for the UW version from Arena

Why does WOTC shove maskwood nexus into so many precons

>>96469778
Please share list when you're done, this is based

>>96474734
Timmy likes tribal.

>>96474528
I constantly list things on facebook marketplace that I don't actually own because I think it's funny how desperate people can be to pick up overpriced shit
I listed a serialized chocobo for $250 and you wouldn't believe the messages I got. People can be really desperate. Especially foreigners.

>>96474703
do they ever put out the art from arena only cards in decent sizes?

>>96474734
>4 precons in the last 3 years
Huh, I had no idea

>>96470819
>Glossy red of the building blending with the webbing, and suit
Looks organic, and alien, fucking sick.

>>96474304
MY HERO

>>96474802
Literally never unless the artist themselves post the art.

>>96473996
It still happened though

>>96474744
>>96474805
The worst offender is eternal might. There's like 6 non zombies out of 35 creatures, and half of them embalm/eternalize back as zombies already:
https://moxfield.com/decks/XrG-Ct9Mx0SZxXKayAp09w

>won 3 out of 6 with anons odric build
half of the time he draws like shit and gets manascrewed, but the upside is that nobody ever targets my shit because of the infallible "hurr durr it's just a bunch of 1/1 who cares"-defense

>>96474738
Sure thing Hoss, hopefully I'll have a rough list tomorrow. Not sure how hard I want to go on artifacts. Might add a small cheerios package. Free flicker targets to poop out seems pretty cool.

The color identity rule is unironically the only thing that stops 90% of decks from looking exactly the same regardless of commander, because colorfixing has become so easy it's a non-issue to play 5c.

>>96474925
I bullied an odric player so hard he stopped showing up to the LGS

>>96475015
ban all staples

This card seems nice, I'm shocked they never printed something like this before

>>96475105
Damn... this is so broken. With this and the spot removal... this set is going to get banned in all the formats..

I want to build this little nigga, but there are only like ten moogles. Relying on his tokens is just too slow :(

>>96475121
he cute :)

>>96475121
shapeshifters are exactly to support your shitty tribe (it will still suck)

spiderbros

>>96475121
this is exactly why this one shits moogles out

What are some good chaos cards and stax like teferi's puzzle box that would work well with this magnificent bastard?

>>96473666
universes beyond doesn adhere to colorpie rules

>>96475121
He makes the tokens before buffing

>>96475105
Art so badass I thought it was Todd McFarlane- but instead it's that faggot ripoff artist Erik Larsen

>>96475105
Just realized his right pec is so much smaller than his left pec. The anatomy is horrible but somehow it's still badass

>>96475206
We did get some Todd art.

What fucking compels a motherfucker to play fucking solitaire with himself for 75% of our game, not realizing that everyone else has already checked out and not really caring what he does because he's combo is so slow and doesn't affect us, to then be like if we want to play another game against his solitaire deck.

>>96475221
>attacking
>tapped
>slivers
Just bullshit how there's no generic "your creatures have deathtouch" card. Would be so good for shit like that

>>96475254
I'm so tilted and tired I can't even word good

>>96475254
A desire to assert their intellectual superiority over the table.

>>96475258
There are three cards that do this and one can even be your commander UBTourist.

>>96475221
Classic art wasted on a shit card. They should have saved this for a pushed face commander

>>96475258
Does this count?

>>96475263
He was pretty much just talking to himself while the rest of us was pretty much just talking about everything else, he didn't seem to mind. Just annoying not to be able to play a game because someone needs to combo off to get off.

>>96475254
>What compels someone to want to spend more time making decisions than spending more time waiting for someone else to figure out if they should play Craw Wurm or Colossal Dreadmaw
A real mystery.

>>96475221
That's not a big bulge...

>>96474304
I see what he did there

>>96475254
Maybe put interaction in your deck anon

I need to build an aggro deck as my next commander. I am tired of watching the green players ramp and everyone just sits and watch.

>>96475327
>I CLAPPED WHEN I GOT THE REFERENCE

>>96475327
>old soulful game gets painted over with by spiderman and all the slop hogs clap

POETIC

Flurbo's will
4
You may reveal this card from your hand if it's in your opening hand, if you do, resolve it as if you cast it, fuck you.
Search the battlefield and all zones for any non land cards with mana value 1 or less, exile them face down in a pile.

>>96474429
>here's a bacteria that makes people hate Mutants
retarded, how are you supposed to develop a character what that?

>>96475526
It's more that it exacerbates existing xenophobia, I think. Anybody who's already accepting of others will not really be affected, but somebody who might be a bit suspect will go full "they shouldn't be around".

>>96475494
she cute
sure, you can rule 0 her

>>96475254
Stupid people equate winning magic with high IQ. Even stupidier people bring that attitude to casual games.
You can win games pretty easily if you don't care about making the game interesting so there ya have it. Someone who wants to assert dominance in a casual setting.
Luckily these players tend to actually be pretty dumb so out playing them isn't hard but avoiding them in the future is even easier.

>>96475415
Balance shouldnt be considered mld for this purpose

>>96475532
Damn son, I'm glad I never cares about that shit outside of the cartoon lol

>>96475591
I equate winning at magic with a credit card

>>96475624
Allow me to introduce you to rdw from literally any formst with a legitimate competitive scene

>>96475591
I like to assert my intellectual superiority by defeating the control and combo pseuds using short turns and as few cards as necessary to do the deed. Combat damage and direct damage are my preferred methods of winning, nothing makes a pseud with a $2000+ deck angrier than losing to combat damage.

>>96475701
>tfw control player
>tfw I only play control because I hate combo so much

>>96475726
This
I literally couldn't care less about losing to some dinos or elves or equipment or whatnot

>tfw combo player
>tfw I only play combo because I hate timmy

>>96475701
Please play against me
I promise I will definitely not put an enlightened counter on my mutavault

>>96475748
>I wont put a do nothing counter on my mutavault
Weird flex but ok

>>96475760
>he doesn't know

>>96475780
Last I checked they were just reminder text

>>96475748
Put the elephant on the board wagie

>>96475494
>>96475573
she's legal in pauper commander

Is it normal for the oval hologram things on cards to be off center or sometimes not a perfect oval?

>>96475843
Not unless you get your cards from china

>>96475843
yes it happens. your card is not a gem mint 10, its basically toilet paper

>>96475843
Only time I've seen that is in an otherwise flawless counterfeit of the confetti anime Tithe, take that as you will.

>lose 60lbs
>start to become extremely aware of how fat the average person is
>disgusting
Commander for this feel?

Post commanders

>>96475900
Idk, some goblin probs

>>96475900
Kami of the crescent moon

>>96475849
>>96475878
>>96475894
A bunch, if not most, of my cards from my EoE prerelease are all at an angle or off center. I don't think any have a misshapen oval though.

>>96475780
>look it up
>its an mana intensive interaction that works exactly the way you would expect
Whoa nice tech, did you get that from a youtube short lmao?

>set has 60 different spider mens spread out over a dozen multverses

I can't believe there are grown ass men who read comic books. This shit is so ass.

>>96475915
>>96475918
Why would I want to be disgusted by my commander?

>>96475944
thats the price increase for less, but very quality cards per pack of course

>>96475970
Did you have a stroke, anon?

>>96475900
Sounds like you need Prossh, Skyraider of Kher.

>>96475843
Ignore these retards >>96475849 >>96475894 the holo is constantly off center in new prints.

>>96475900
I'm having such a hard time tonight. I've literally spent the past 2 hours trying to convince myself not to get Chinese food. God I need to lose weight but I'm fucking addicted

>>96475960
>kinda cool hobby for a teenager
>some really dope stuff comes out sporadically in your 20s
>by the time you are in your 30s its complete cringe but you still are fond of it
Literally the same as magic

>>96475983
Now we're talking

>>96475900
I also lost 60lbs recently but I still such a long way to go until I become normal. Being fat sucks.

>>96475988
I noticed a few also had the tiniest of specks of black (like if the black top layer of the card that acts as a window to the oval wasn't perfect) too. Is that something that happens? I'm just trying to make sure I somehow didn't end up with fakes.

>>96475300
>identity ≥ G
yeah uh I fucked up putting this in the search.

>>96476013
Based. Keep at it.

>>96475900
any 2 or mono colored ones, and see how gluttonous even "just" 3 colors are

>>96475960
>card game has 60 different Jaces spread around over a dozen multiverses

i cant believe there are grown ass men who read magic lore. This shit is so ass.

>>96476068
Oh this is good

>>96476085
Correct.

>>96476045
They're not fakes. Bootlegs are far more consistent with their holos than mass printed official cards. Fact is WOTC hires their printing out to the lowest bidder and newer cards are a fucking mess of consistency. Just be glad you didn't get a card that's been totally mangled by crimping or some other shit, like lots of people get (note how fucking off center the holo in pic related is too).

>>96476085
correct

Who else likes making their own basics?

>>96475900
Totentanz, Swarm Piper
Syr Ginger, the Meal Ender
Lord Skitter, Sewer King

>>96476068
desu i consider anything >=3 colors a 5c deck anyways, with this much blatand goodstuff around these days. The only shard i could think of, where you actually feel some sort of drawback is maybe Jund

Flee to new thread

>>96476150
>>96476150
>>96476150

>>96476108
>look at pic
>"oh that holo isn't THAT bad where's the cri--"
Holy shit that's ass. How the fuck is that even allowed to exist?

>>96476120
I love having a huge variety of land styles. Personally I adore the Ixalan ones.

>>96476108
>tfw I regularly forget fallout was a set and experience the horrid realization fresh every time

>>96475910
that gishath foil etched?

>>96477633
no :(