Thread 96491716

“It is well that war is so terrible, or we would grow too fond of it.” - Robert E. Lee

“The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving on.” - Ulysses S. Grant

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This general encompasses all board game genres - Eurogames, Ameritrash, Ameritreasure, Fillers, Party, Abstracts, Wargames, and especially the game that one anon is autistic about at this very moment.

TQs:
- Are you pro or against TTS?
- What's the last game that blew your mind?
- What's your favorite mechanic and the best implementation of it?

What deckbuilders should I try? I'm looking at Heart of Crown 2e and Kamigami Battles since I like anime booba and being able to attack my opponents.
I played Dominion and Ascension like a decade ago and thought they were alright, but not amazing or anything.

>>96491716 (OP)
>- Are you pro or against TTS?
It's a good way to try and test games if physical isn't available. It ofc cannot replace physical play and social time spent together and not replacing that but it clearly beats not playing at all.
>- What's the last game that blew your mind?
In the "holy shit this is unexpectedly fantastic" way? probably La Famiglia or Hegemony.

Interest bump for that there cold war pax game

>>96491785
I don't know. If you didn't like Dominion there's not much I can do.

>>96491785
Slay the Spire? G. I. Joe? Aeon's End?

>>96491785
unstoppable

>>96491785
"My Little Pony: Adventures in Equestria Deck-Building Game" lol

>>96491785
Dominion but add in at least one expansion from adventures onwards but probably not nocturne.

>>96491785
Draconis Invasion
Legendary Encounters Alien
Barbossa
Nightfall

Thoughts on Risk Strike ?

>>96491716 (OP)
>Pro or against TTS
I'm against anything that acts as inferior surrogate, promoted critique from those who don't play the actual product, and is frequently used by those who don't support the hobby in any meaningful way while still acting like they are part of the hobby.
TTS and PDF users are scum.

>Last game that blew your mind
Nothing comes to mind

>Favorite mechanic
Bag building. Warps Edge and Isofarian Guard use it well.

>>96491828
>>96491923
Nah, Dominion is just straight up shit. There are much better fixed market deck builders. Tanto Cureo is a straight up clone but does the core play loop better.

>>96491785
Quest for El Dorado
Arctic scavengers
Barbarossa (but don't buy it from a comer)

>>96491954
How is Tanto better? I've never heard someone be able to articulate why it's genuinely better than even base-game dominion without resorting to appealing to the le epic sexy art and then with expansions on both sides dominion basically completely shits on it and even the japs are only interested in Dominion over it

>>96491951
pdf?

>>96491954
Dominion shit? lol what do you fags smoke

>>96491785
I like Heart of Crown 2e. You can try the game for free via the digital adaptation on Steam which has a very generous demo. It lets you play a lot against the AI.
>>96491900
I bought this game for my wife who is big into My Little Pony. It's just an alright game honestly with only a thin veneer of theming once you get past the art on the cards, but she loves it so I don't mind playing it with her.
>>96491954
>Tanto Cuore does the core loop better
How out of curiosity?

>>96491854
shill me on this game solobro

I'm looking for a good tower defense game. Any ideas?

>>96491951
>Isofarian Guard enjoyer shitting on TTS
lmao
before you ask, i've played a physical copy. the bag building is flaccid

>>96491785
Star realms is the best.

>>96491954
I'll join the choire
>>96491962
>>96491968
How is tc better? I've seen it posted a lot but never with an actual reason. Fuck the coomer art but at least it's consistent

>>96491984
I'm not sure if it's exactly what you're looking for, but I've always considered XenoShyft a tower defense game and I love it.

There's "pure deckbuilders" and "deckbuilding + [insert other mechanics]" games. What are some good examples of the latter? I've heard of:
>Clank
>Imperium
>Mage Knight
>Tyrants of the Underdark
are they good? if not, what else is out there?

>>96491994
That's what I'm asking you guys lol, how is TC better than Dominion

>>96492004
Obviously Dune Imperium
Quest for el dorado
GWT has a somewhat minor deckbuilding element

>>96492015
El Dorado has so little actual gameplay outside of blocking it feels like a pure deckbuilder to me and as a result I don't like it anymore because it's not very good as one

have you guys played it?

>>96492023
Oh, I very much agree, a suprisingly disappointing knizia for me. No idea how it got so popular; probably precisely because it's deckbuilding super light

>>96492010
That's why I quoted you as part of the "choire"

>>96491962
>>96491968
>>96491994

Much more stuff chains off other stuff in TC compared to Dominion. A randomly dealt market in Dominion might have no combo potential or extremely limited combo potential, whereas a random market in TC usually has some pretty obvious combo potential through multiple avenues.
TC also has head maids that alter scoring and play effects and it's much easier to clog an opponents deck.
It's clearly the same mechanics overall just one does it better than the other.

>>96491963
PDF users are from the TTRPG side of things. A rather vocal group that misread rules and make up scenarios that never occur in game and act like they are normal. A prime example is the guy who hijacks the Savage Worlds threads on /tg/ and claims to have run over 200 sessions of SW while using nothing but a dated edition PDF from the Internet archive and getting basic mechanical rules wrong when questioned about them. You will find no other human who shits on Savage Worlds harder and he is a prime example of how PDF users frequently shit up the hobby. The same people who call you a paypig piece of shit for buying a physical CRB.

>>96492048
The majority of markets in Dominion have engine potential at full-random and the ones that don't often provide completely different game play as a result which is still interesting. The head maids from what I remember in TC realistically don't do thaat much and Dominion:Empires pretty much mogs the mechanic anyway with the Landmark cards and all the different alt VP token stuff it has and that's all in a single expansion.

>>96492038
Yeah I don't really get the hype for it at all although I've never tried the expansions, neither the deck building or the actual physical race is that interesting and I find it mostly just comes down to if the board is long enough to sustain a "thin deck and then catapult self" strategy or if it's so short you just have to run to the end ASAP.

>>96492118
>Expansions
If we are throwing expansions into the mix, you can definitely make Dominion into a good game.
I'm going off core box content only and every single core box of TC mogs the hell out of Dominion core box. Anytime you have to throw down $40-$100 extra to make a core product as good or slightly better than a different core product, one is clearly a superior product right out the gate.

Dominion can get ABSOLUTELY insane if you got all the content released for it and that blows everything TC has out of the fucking water, no question.

>>96492048
Idk but I found the worst part of dominion by far was the downtime that came from people comboing off.
Or do you mean cards triggering off each other

Hard question time anon.

Are we glorifying boardgames because bg time is never enough? Rarely anyone I have read of, even people working full time in the boardgame industry plays as often as they'd like. Is the constant scarcity the magic sauce and a lot of great games would lose its lustre when played as often as we'd like?

You don't really see people 'addicted' to playing boardgames either, that's more on the consumerism side of the hobby.

>>96492563
Good question, but also nope
Normally if the same question were asked for anything else I would require more thinking to reach an answer, but for this instance, nope, I don't think the scarcity of chances to play makes me put them on a pedestal, because whenever I do get to play (some weeks i have 3 game nights) it's always a great time, I struggle to recall any game night I regretted, even though there are games that I do not like that I've tried. This applies to both irl and tts for me BTW
whereas for movies, videogames and even TTRPGs, there are some evenings that i'd rather forget or were just straight up a waste of time

>>96492662
League player spotted

>>96492692
Last time I played that shit game was little more than 10 years ago so I dunno how much of a league player that makes me, and it wasn't the first thing that came into mind for "videogames i regretted spending an evening on" but sure, I also regret playing League, albeit it was a tiny fraction of the time investment my friends put into it

>>96491989
Star realms is luck based shit

I did not care for Food Chain Magnate. It insists upon itself.

>>96492779
I insist you pay your workers a living wage, Jerome.
No wonder you came in last.

I know it has sort of become a meme, but what exactly is "it insists upon itself" supposed to mean?
Fcm > hc by a long shot btw

>>96492799
>pay your workers a living wage
That's not what the game says to do.

>>96492819
FCM feels like a game thats too big for its breeches if you catch my drift. It's lumberingly slow, stringent, table-devouring monstrosity that ultimately hides nothing more than a regular deckbuilder euro inside, with incredibly antithematic milestone system trying to coat this fact by introducing artifical variety. TGZ offered twice the depth at half the playtime and mechanics.

>>96492799
>hires and plays a waitress
>wages are suddenly nearly halved

>>96492881
>table devouring monstrosity
For so many anons to say this, it must mean that you guys literally lay the employees that can be hired down on the table side by side, this is instantly fixed by making a card stand by folding some paper, we did this and all cards fit nicely and clearly visible to all, in the game's box and lid
>slow
I dunno what to tell you, last few games I played took 2 hours or little longer. At 4-5 players even.
>stringent
I know the meaning of the word but not what that means in this context, probably a redundant adjective to emphasize the two aforementioned points
>deckbuilding euro
Well if you just dont like deckbuilding that's a whole different issue, although technically you're not building a deck, there's no shuffling involved. You're building a hand.
>TGZ
Yes yes that one is also good, as most other splotters, it's just hc that's not as good

Is the great Zimbabwe really that good?
Hard to imagine it topping fcm for me, which has so many avenues for creativity

My neighbor is having a bar mitzvah for his son in a couple weeks, what would be a good game to give him?

>>96492930
Its really that good.
The bidding for going first alone is one of the nastiest and most consequential implementations of its kind that Ive ever seen.
The tempo considerations, the choose your victory threshold, the bonkers gods powers.
FUCK i need to play it right now.

>>96492930
Try out all the splotter games, you can do that on onlineboardgamers (it also has Keyflower), they're all good. You can skip HC

>>96492930
I've never played FCM so I can't offer a comparison, but TGZ is a great game. All of it's parts fit together very well, both mechanically and thematically.
You're trying to out do your opponents but almost every step you take to do that benefits everyone else because the game is a closed economy. You have to be very deliberate about when you do things to make sure you come out ahead.
At the same time the game punishes you for doing too much but forces you to do things to stop the leading player. You have to be very deliberate about what you're doing to make sure what you want to do also obstructs people ahead of you.
Underpinning all of this is the turn order auctions where you give other people opportunities later in the game (the turn order auction is also a closed economy) to make sure you can capitalize on the opportunities that are available right now.

>>96492038
>suprisingly disappointing knizia
You ... haven't played many Knizias, have you? Disappointment is not a surprise with his games, it's the expectation. I'm surprised when they're good

>>96492985
Ok, cool
And it looks like a great time to buy, as the stock is at an all time high
I don't mind buying the winners

>>96492991
1/50 Knizia games are great
This means he has more great games than anyone

>>96493035
>1/50 Knizia games are great
Maybe 1/100

>>96493112
even with 1/100 that's still at least 10 greats, more than most designers, if not all of them

>Lacerdacucks or some other sloppa retard's fans can't handle a bit of the 'Kniz
lol

>>96493133
LOL got ya, enjoy weather machine while you eat store brand chips with chopsticks and listen to SVWAG

>>96492970
>>96492927
>>96492819
Bro were you molested during a game of HC? Nobody even mentioned it lmao

>>96493149
I've noticed that too, there's an anon completely obsessed with hating it. I wonder what's the story behind it.

>>96493161
A single blurry screenshot of one page of the HC rules, released by the designers as a teaser. Published years ago.
Anon took it as a personal fuck you and has been seething over it ever sincs.

>>96493229
Terrible allocation of the sets, anon. You should play some HC to use space more efficiently.

>>96493239
※ diagram not to scale

>>96492035
it's pretty neat, a faithful adaptation of the vidya in everything except it also adds a time limit to the sneaking stages, which is a good call imho. Guard behavior is predictable but not fully, which I like, and you WILL draw the one card that moves them in just the right way to let them spot you at least once per mission, meanwhile boss stages are just "here's a gimmick, go figure it out", which is faithful yes but might get old halfway through the campaign, didn't for me but might for you. Also, the fact that if you're playing with 4 players the only missions you can do are VR missions and the last third or so of the campaign is a choice I find dubious. It makes sense, and no shade to the VR missions they're very cool and i can see an expansion pack that's just 20 more VR missions, but still, if you advertise your game as 4p compatible it better be 4p compatible from stage one; Instead the campaign starts as Snake only, then you get the ability to add Meryl into the mix, and only after a few more missions do the other two characters get added, and introduced as another 2p only mission because your little twin brothers said mom says it's their turn with the playstation. It's brilliant despite the few flaws it has, wish all other videogames had boardgame adaptations this good.

>>96493229
I did not buy it and I played it before it went on sale, so i'm not in that graph.
>>96493149
>anons seethe hard about (thing), crying and moaning across multiple threads, making long posts about it
i sleep
>anon makes a small off-hand comment at the end of a tangentially related post a couple times about how he didn't like (thing) as much
real shit??? need to call backup from the discord!

>>96493294
nevermind, I am

>>96492069
So you have exactly one example of an idiot that you then extrapolate into an entire generalization. That's pretty retarded. Bro's actually mad about people reading clean digital PDFs lol. Schizo behavior, making up windmills to fight.

Favorite 3 player game?

>>96493294
>making a meme-format strawman to represent your point
Molested, then.

>>96493317
yeah he totally was molested lmao you totally owned him epic style!

>>96493331
>Talking in third person
That's really sad.

>>96491951
https://www.youtube.com/embed/OKvyLusxL8Q?start=38&end=134
So you're saying tabletop simulator is the private jets of board gaming?

>>96493196
Imagine not being able to master a game just from a blurry screenshot of 1 page of the rulebook LMAO

>>96493338
Not only was he molested during what was supposed to be a friendly game of HC, he also lost. Truly a sad tale.

>>96493347
I never realized the brainlet crow was black. Have I secretly been racist this whole time?

>>96493356
But anon, all Corvids are black.

>>96493349
yeah so sad mayne hes cooked fr fr, hc is bussin too bad he cant understand that, must be some kind of splotter hater

>>96493389
Your constant seething about HC is hilarious, please continue sperging out in the future.

>>96493389
yes keep seething bro you're seething it validates me

>>96492563
i see people somewhat addicted to playing. like getting into sort of hard conversations with their partner about how many nights per week they play

>>96493120
but also 9/10 not great, to say nicely. If a designer made 5 games in their life and 2 are great I'd be more existed if they made a new game than if Knizia did.

>>96492881
>TGZ offered twice the depth at half the playtime and mechanics.
You people overestimate TGZ's depth. Having played both games at least twenty times I can assure you that FCM is the deeper game.

>>96492930
It's is a pretty good game. However i would put FCM, Indonesia and Bus above it.

>>96493314
Strictly 3p? Maria followed by a close Churchill. Best at 3p? Pax Ren, Clash of Cultures, Arnak

>>96493314
Three Kingdoms Redux

>>96493446
I just ignore the bad ones, and I don't feel the need to be excited for the next new, shiny thing

>>96493314
Triumph and Tragedy

>>96493347
kek
its the post and the pic that keeps on giving

>>96493512
>I just ignore the bad ones
How do you know which ones are good? You look at reviews?

>>96492991
I have played like 20 I guess. Mostly the big names of course, and almost all of them were as good as expected or better. Not so with el dorado

Lets not start the "knizia has designed heaps of trash games" discussion. Yes that's true. Doesn't change that he's done a ton of brilliant stuff as well

>>96493561
no i just read the rulebook, sometimes watch a tutorial, I don't care about reviews

>>96493314
Eclipse with hyperlanes

>>96493196
>>96493347
Nah that's me, I'm still salty about it but I haven't played or commented on HC

>>96493314
can only be played at 3? Churchill.
3 player my favorite composition for a game?
The Great Zimbabwe, Spirit Island, and Pax Transhumanity.

even Knizia's "shit" games would still be salvation for a family that knows only monopoly

>>96493553
I like to think he's still here and gets embarrassed every time it gets reposted

>>96493613
you haven't played Knizia's "shit" games

>>96493576
what's so wrong with guardian sectors that you feel the need to just remove them and pretend you're playing a 6 player game with just 3 players?

>>96493653
name 10 of them

>>96493830
Exactly, name them

>>96491716 (OP)
>- Are you pro or against TTS?
Pro. It's nothing but positives for it. The only complaint I have is that finding games in the browser sucks and the UX could be improved by having the keybinds make sense. Otherwise it's fine and lets me play stuff that doesn't have official releases (Persona 5 Boardgame that someone made, as an example).

>- What's the last game that blew your mind?
Slay the Spire's board game conversion. I know it shouldn't be that hard, given it's a card game first and foremost but they did a good job with the randomization "seeds."

My board game group died but at least I buy my games. Why you guys are always acting like faggots is a question I dearly wish I had answers for but alas, ig I'll never know. The last board game I bought was The Yawning Portal and I still haven't got to play it. But I support my fucking hobbies. I'm about to buy games for my nephew and send them 2250 miles away. Fuck you all

>>96493653
Knizia has to cash flow his harem
Can't expect everything to be gold

>>96493630
I'm still here. You kidding? I love edits of the stupid crow.

>>96493976
>I don't play boardgames anymore, but at least I buy them
Are you ok anon?

>>96494015
He seems more like the character to dismiss women flocking to him with a 'get lost, I need to get to my game development lab' and pepperspray the more persistent ones with his bowtie

>>96493770
It's not that the guardian sectors are bad it's that the galaxy is too big so there's no resource scarcity eliminating one reason to fight other players for sectors. The game then turns into TI4 where you just stare at your opponents angrily but no one wants to fight.

>>96493830
Pluszaki Rozrabiaki
Lord of the Rings
Battle Line
Palazzo
Medici vs Strozzi
Strozzi
Beowulf
The Hobbit
Euphrates & Tigris
Black Sheep

>>96493976
???

>>96494242
Not the worst bait I've ever seen

>>96494281
>bait
Name 10 not shit games on that list.

>>96494150
No. I'm stuck playing vidya shit right now. I'm TRYING to resurrect my bg group but it's been months of effort to no avail. Oh, well. I'll have board games to play when I can get a new group together, at least. SOMEBODY'S GONNA PLAY THE YAWNING PORTAL WITH ME

>>96494366
If it makes you feel better, my dry spell has just been extended by at least one further week as well. 5 weeks and counting

>>96494339
Most are open to discussion but understandable (like Beowulf, that one is VERY hit or miss) but you cannot be serious about T&E and Battleline. Even if you dislike them, they are very obviously not bad designs

>>96494242
Battle Line is good
Tigris & Euphrates is good

I agree with the other guy. this is just bait.

>>96494438
T&E is not on the list.
Battleline is a very poor design. It needed the extra complication of the cards added in Schotten Totten and BL:Medieval to not be mindlessly scripted in 5 plays. The central mechanism is too simplistic to be compelling.

>>96494469
>It needed the extra complication of the cards
No, it didn't.

>>96494474
It did, thoughbeit.

>>96494469
>T&E is not on the list.
Oh you are correct. I thought you accidentally used the german name (Euphrat & Tigris)

>>96494497
E&T is the English name of the card game version of T&E. And it sucks ass.

Has anyone tried the monster hunter board game? Is it good? I've seen videos and looks like the dark souls one and that one was kinda disappointing

>>96494486
Nah.

>>96494522
And yet.

>>96494242
Still better than Monopoly. Thanks for proving Anon right.

>>96494529
>Still better than Monopoly.
You don't know what you're talking about, nigger.

>>96494527
Still nah.

>>96494542
Why are you seething, pal? Thanks for proving that even the shittiest Knizia is still more enjoyable than Monopoly.

>>96494395
I'm over 52 weeks for my regular group

>>96494542
every single game on that list is preferable to shitopoly, come on stop joking

After flaking at the last minute for the 10th time in a row, I have decided to cut all contact with my only group of 3 for board games. Did I fuck up?

>>96493976
>My board game group died but at least I buy my games.
You, being a member of the group, claim to be dead as well. This basket weaving forum must be a Ouiji board. Is Ouiji a board game?
>Why you guys are always acting like faggots is a question I dearly wish I had answers for
Hic Sunt Fagoti.
>>96494366
>it's been months of effort to no avail.
Necromancy be like that.

>>96494678
I hate your post. It makes little sense

>>96494634
How many times have you played Pluszaki Rozrabiaki? Or Strozzi? Be honest, anon.

The retarded slav thinks Battle Line needed additional rules. Can't appreciate a decent elegant design. So any opinion this "person" has is worthless.

>>96494190
understandable, not everyone can see the value of attacking early to deny resources, so most of the fighting does happen only in the final round as people reach out to try and grab high-VP scoring territory from rivals.

>>96494723
more times than I have played Monopoly

>>96494768
Not an argument.

>>96494901
Lying cunt.

>>96494924
>>96494934
Untermensch = no opinion

>>96494990
I accept your concession, even if though it's in german.

>>96495021
Whatever you say, Kowalski. Just remember that even the shittiest Knizia is better than Monopoly.

>>96495214
Might even be better than Catan, idk

>>96495214
You haven't played most of Knizias yet you played monopoly

someones selling tigris and euphrates at board game meet next week for 90quid.

Is it a good price given its some old 2006 version or something. Is it actually good? Knizia puts out so many games recently just thought most of them are just slop - I do love Ra however

How is imperial steam? I already have other train games I haven't played yet, but it looks cool

>>96491966
I love Dominion but base game was bad. Then they changed base game and intrigue by taking out some cards and adding new ones. But it's still not great. You really do need the expansions.

Knizia is Wes Anderson of boardgaming

>>96495608
are you talking about 1e? if so, that would make sense. i've played 2e and it's not bad at all. sure it's simpler than the expansions but i wouldnt call it bad.

The slav's hatred for Knizia is hilarious to see. Always some inferiority complex or resentment towards Germans.

>>96495718
*Kubrick
Lots of great films in different genres

>>96495825
trvke

Name 3 good board games. Hard mode: nothing from Bgg's top 100 https://boardgamegeek.com/browse/boardgame/page/1?sort=rank

>>96495957
Renature
Dominion
Web of Power

>>96496035
>Dominion
>board game
I will try Renature. Every thread the Renature people make sure to mention it. I've heard enough!

>>96496224
>>Dominion
>>board game
Yes, it has a board. Pic related.
>I will try Renature. Every thread the Renature people make sure to mention it. I've heard enough!
Renaturebros... we've got another one...

>>96496224
every game is a board game if you are autistic enough

>>96495379
T&E is a masterpiece. Having said that 90 quid is too much for an old ass version. For reference I got an old copy for merely 15 euros.

wtf is a "quid"

>>96495957
>Hard mode: nothing from Bgg's top 100
Pffft that's easy, hard mode would be something like nothing from bgg's top 1000.

Assault on Doomrock
Sakura Arms
Pericles

Opinions on Moon Colony Bloodbath?

>>96493365
This suddenly makes sense.

>>96496423
British slang for money, from the Latin phrase "quid pro quo" (this for that).

post more root memes pls

>>96496423
1 quid is 1 pound, for some reason i used to think 1 quid was the equivalent of 5
>>96496393
I love T&E
a friend of mine recently got Y&Y, i'm curious to try it and see the differences

>>96496456
Aye aye, mon capitain

>>96496642
Here's the remastered version

>>96494518
>Has anyone tried the monster hunter board game?
Yes
>Is it good?
Yes and no, but ultimately it's not worth the money IMO (unless you're buying it ultra cheap second hand)

The monster fights are fun and the combat system work well and they've done a good job translating both of them from the video game. If you're familiar with how fighting Diablos/Anjanath/Rathalos works in MH you'll know what to expect from them in the board game.

The let down is everything else. I don't think they playtested the "choose your own adventure" part that happens before every monster fight since it's possible to get stuck in loops and completely miss key ingredients you'll need to craft weapons/armor. There's no indication which choice will lead to what outcome and it's a very frustrating experience that poorly abstracts the "hunting/gathering" part of the video game. Plus to have the "full experience" you'll need to buy a ton of shit just to have more than 3 monsters to fight and 4 weapons to choose from.

If you can get it for a greatly reduced price and plan to only play it as a boss battler, go for it. Otherwise stay clear.

>>96496647
Saved, thanks.
>>96496456

>>96495825
Knizia dreams he could create something as complex as Barry Lyndon. He's more a Spielberg, when he hits he hits, when he misses he misses badly, his latest work exposed how much of a hack he has always been.

>>96496894
>Knizia dreams he could create something as complex as Barry Lyndon.
Board games aren't movies.
> He's more a Spielberg, when he hits he hits, when he misses he misses badly, his latest work exposed how much of a hack he has always been.
Kubrick missed with Fear and Desire and Lolita. Killer's Kiss is also not that good.

>>96496894
>his latest work exposed how much of a hack he has always been
What are you talking about?

Tigris & Euphrates is almost criminally boring. The gormless process of drawing colored squares and building your point-generator blob till two blobs eventually collide and a random as hell mechanic decides who wins is soul-draining. T&E never achieved the cult status afforded to Puerto Rico or Twilight Struggle, it will never enjoy a rebirth like Brass or Bus, its a mediocre (charitably) game rightfully forgotten by anyone by the most hardcore Knizia dickri- fans

>>96496949
>Board games aren't movies.
Complexity is complexity. You can handle it or you can't.
And Kubrick mostly messed up independent films. Spielberg messed up multimillion dollar studio productions. Knizia comparison is valid here. They're both overrated makers of schmultzy, simple creations that appeal to the general public.

>>96497003
Ready Player One?

>>96497053
Oh, I thought you were talking about the doctor.

>>96497078
I was drawing a parallel between the two. MLEM wasn't as bad as RPO but it was a hack job

>>96497113
isn't mlem from like 1 or 2 years ago? ego and silas are pretty good

>>96497144
>ego and silas
They're literally Beowulf and Municipium, some of his more awful games.

Guys, I can't stop buying train games
Help

>>96497281
as long as they're good and you're actually playing them i see no issue

>>96497289
I will definitely play them
Eventually

>>96497293
The only train game you need is Ticket to Ride Maerklin

>>96497039
>And Kubrick mostly messed up independent films.
Yea, he messed up movies where he had mostly absolute control with little to no pressure from producers. That makes his misses worse, not better.
>Knizia comparison is valid here.
No, it isn't. Because Knizia doesn't make the equivalent of big productions like Spielberg. Board games are not an intellectual or artistic pursuit so talking about "complexity" is nonsensical. "Complexity" doesn't make a game better.

>>96497298
>game you need
>any ticket to ride ever
yeah nope, there are many train games that are way better than any TtR

Knizia has more hits than stinkers

>>96497318
IMO of his hundreds of games, most of them are okay (nothing special but you can still have fun with them), a smaller number range from very good to excellent, and only a small minority are actually bad.

MLEM owns though

>>96497305
You're wrong and you're stupid.

So I noticed horseless carriage is down to $30 at my lgs
Crazy to see a splotter game that low
Is it really that bad? I'm kinda tempted
Maybe I'll make them a cash offer for 20
Anyone who would take 30 would take 20, right?

What's good gamers.

>friends had to cancel IRL weekly meetup
>spent all day playing on TTS with them instead
Thanks TTS!

>>96497628
Not an argument, Kowalski.

>>96497318
If you have a good taste, yes. If you're a resentful German-hating untermensch from Poland, probably not.

>>96497641
good price

>>96497410
But how many of them have you actually played?

>>96497014
>and building your point-generator blob till two blobs eventually collide
you clearly havent played T&E if you think this is how an average game plays out. in reality it's a tight game full of opportunism and finding novel ways to screw someone up. shame plebs like you whose only joy is being angry at games you havent played will never experience how good the game can be.

>>96492964
Kings of Israel
>>96494518
I got Primal instead. I got burned by SFG on their shitty Resident Evil 2 board game and haven't looked back since.

>>96497841
>good or better
Through the Desert
Ra
Lost Cities
Ingenious
Pollen
Mille Fiori
Huang (only played once; would need to play more to be sure of this evaluation)
Marabunta (borderline between good and decent)
>decent
Havalandi
MLEM
Kariba
Cat Blues
Penguin Party
Cosmolancer (borderline between decent and bad)
>bad
Rebirth (though it's far from the worst game I've ever played)
All that said, I assume his totally unknown games which I'll never play skew towards the worse end.

>>96492964
Mycelia (2014)

>>96498052
2024*

>>96492964
Package has Arrived (1965)
Ezra and Nehemiah
Judean Hammer

Or if we're shitposting
>Settlers of Canaan

>>96498035
>All that said, I assume his totally unknown games which I'll never play skew towards the worse end.
You played his best games and rated some as bad. He has hundreds others and there's a reason you haven't played them.

>>96492964
Greed

>>96498019
>>96498095
>>96498052
>Still no juden raus

>>96498105
Anon what bad games of his have you played?
Just asking

>>96498019
>I got Primal instead
Is it any good?

Can someone redpill me on Century? What's the best one? there are different versions and rethemes

>>96491716 (OP)
Holy shit, I'm with Cap. Learn the fucking shortcuts, that's 60% of the battle.

>>96492035
>>96493267
That sounds cool but disappointing ultimately. I'll keep my money.

do campaign games have replayabillity?

>>96498368
Depends ofc
But from what I gather, very few people even play the first one to completion

What's the verdict?

>>96498431
SUSD approved

>>96492964
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/298383/golem

>>96498431
I didn't much like QoQ; it's fine but doesn't really have staying power
The art on the box of this one is so puzzling to me. Who thought 'people surely will like our game better if it looks like a cheap chinese 3d animation show for kids'

>>96498455
I still kek everytime I see it, Quinns' face is just perfect

thoughts? this or 51st State?

>>96498455
>>96498466
>I still kek everytime I see it
same lmao, fav bgg edit

>>96498466
>I still kek everytime I see it, Quinns' face is just perfect
glad you like it, I took the screenshot and some anon added 'cucks' to every box lmao

does it still hold up or is there something better now that scratches the same itch?

>>96498466
>Who thought 'people surely will like our game better if it looks like a cheap chinese 3d animation show for kids'
that's a pretty bad creative decision, so probably a woman. they wanted it to look like wallace and gromit but instead it's some mobile game bullshit. somehow still more charming than that samurai remake game which looks completely faggy.

>>96498485
I kind of like it but will probably sell it in the mear future. It's finrle but always takes way longer than I'd like. Also the newest version in your pic feels very scammy. Box art is neat and elegant, components are still thin cardboard pieces and paperthin playersheets. Not that that would matter too much, but for €50 I'd expect something better

>>96498455
Thoughts on SU&SD?

>>96498620
thoughts on root?

>>96498620
I wonder how much viewer rate must drop so Quinns finally announces his transition

>>96498624
Boring point salad that masquerades as a war game. There is realistically barely any asymmetry and I find myself hating the game the more I've played it and additionally the more I've seen of how Cole Wherleys or whatever has hoodwinked his fans to buy the same 2-3 factions over and over

>>96494635
Idk, are they your friends? Then yes
Were they just your BG contacts? Then probably not. Consistent last minute flaking is extremely annoying

>>96494366
>>96494395
Also Guards of Atlantis II just arrived and I now have an actual backlog. Fucking hell.

thoughts on Lords of Vegas?

>>96498662
Oop and too expensive on the secondary market
That is the extent of my thoughts on it.

>>96498757
it's not out of print though? the new edition is expensive to be sure, however the components seem pretty quality at least

>>96498780
Huh I completely missed that. Mabye there was no EU retail release? Kinda weird how that seems to have gone past me so unnoticed otherwise

>>96498662
Pretty shit rngfest game
There most likely are better games out there if you just want to gamble

How good is lords of vegas relative to box width (looking at it from the side)?
This is the new metric that matters
Take a game like brass, the retail box is like 2 inches wide
Take another game that's 3 inches wide
Unless it's 50% better, it's mathematically worse
And LoV looks pretty chunky

>>96499614
Lords of vegas wouldn't be worth it even if it were paper thin if that's what you were asking, it's basically glorified snakes and ladders

>>96493304
And you are proving his point.

>>96498368
some do, but not all, and only if you enjoy the core gameplay.

>>96499803
>anon_1: all people who do this and that are le bad! this one guy I knew in particular did exactly this and that and he is bad!
>anon_2: you're generalizing
how is that anon proving his point exactly?

>>96495957
Kemet
Arcs
Calus

>>96493304
nta but TTRPG people are retarded and love reading manuals instead of playing games. You see it a lot in design circles too, there is a contingent of autismos that think the reason people don't want to play games with them is because of flaws with dungeons and dragons/whatever, and not because they are weird spergs.

TTS is fine for demos or playing remotely but it's never as good as sitting around a table and moving pieces. The only people who think it is are pod people

>>96495957
If you gave me the choice of games 1-100, or 101-200, I think the latter has the more interesting games...
Ra
Troyes
T&E
Hansa Teutonica
Patchwork
Arcs
Kemet

Pardon me, good sirs
Why are German games so obsessed with wood?
Is it just because they need to generate wood to make boardgames with wood pieces?
Seems like an unhealthy consumption loop

>>96500116
Leseholtz is a traditional right in Germany. The black forest is some 6000 square km. This means that some 500,000 to 1.5mil cubic meters of deadwood might be created in any given year. There's purposes like burning and pencil-making that might consume some of this but it's fair to say that wood cube production and/or milling the wood into cardboard and players aides also helps keep the total down.
So to answer your question, yes, the Germans would be at major risk of wildfires if all this deadwood wasn't being used for wood cubes.

>>96500136
wood > RE-wood > metal > acrylic > bakelite > plastic > cardboard

>>96500200
depends on the use and component. metal can be annoying.

>>96500200
>lang games

>>96500200
>>96500223
What is metal used for, besides coins?
Bakelite too, I havent seen any game components made with that, other than mahjong tiles

>>96500256
Does hive use bakelite? Or is that just plastic?

>>96498368
Undaunted: Stalingrad's campaign is structured in a really interesting way that makes you want to replay it, but the core gameplay is kind of (ameri)trash, so I just couldn't force myself through another complete run.

But if you enjoy the kind of game where you're chucking dice and praying for a 10, it's worth a look.

>>96500273
Unless I get to hook up with Rachel weisz, I really have no interest in being a sniper on the eastern front

>>96500200
Idk cardboard is ubiquitous but pretty based. Don't take it for granted just because so many games use it
Meanwhile I found rewood to feel pretty shit, somewhere inbetween plastic and wood

>>96500256
Quacks and Azul bakelite

>>96500273
The point of Stalingrad is to know when your chances to win are lost and pull out before you take too many casualties. In the early missions retreating first means you unlock your cooler units first, and the less losses you take the less chances there are that you lose your promoted cards. Plus theres some tactical elements to picking which units cards to add to the deck and which to return to the supply because you want Scout Squad B to go Rambo on the enemy machinegun, but to do that you need to actually draw two of their cards or the Squad B Leader in the same hand of 4 cards and to do that you want your deck as lean and mean as possible while still retaining enough cards for other units to not surrender when shot once.

War chest has the best components

>>96500272
pretty sure it's bakelite

>>96500046
>Wehrleshit on the list
The only choice I'd give you is noose or cyanide.

>>96500504
at least it's not root, it's a lot better

>>96500317
The nice thing about rewood is it's surprisingly tolerant of heat, you can sleeve them in molten plastic and the results are great

>>96500403
>The point of Stalingrad is
To not be a baboon and leave your guys out in the open, and then it's mostly up to the dice rolls and card draws. Sure there are several layers of mechanics you can influence the outcome with, but at the end of the game it's extremely heavy on luck.

>In the early missions retreating first means you unlock your cooler units first
Not relevant as a factor unless you're playing it several times over, which would require you to like the game to begin with.

What would you do if you came home and found out your wife/gf threw out your boardgames because (insert reason here)?

>>96500664
Legit immediate divorce. Not bevause muh board games, but this is such a blatant disregard for property and the investment it represents, she would deserve a good beating. But that is not allowed, so divorce. And I'm taking the kids.

>>96500681
What if your kids threw out your boardgames?

>>96500272
bakelite

>>96500664
Incelbros, we win again...

>>96500688
Murder suicide.

>>96500664
Beat the shit out of her and then make love to her.

>>96500415
It also has a box that is utter trash
But yeah, weighted chips are great

I need a gf to play games with :(

>>96500664
Probably do it the smart but cuck-y way; play along whilst immediately seeing a divorce lawyer about it for how to proceed further. Impulsive acting is likely what would get me and when confronted with such a symbolically extreme act I tend to become ice cold and calculative. Just like in boardgames.

QoQ is ok. Lizard Wizard is better

>>96500317
For general game components I'm not a fan of cardboard. Especially cardboard chits.

Dual layered cardboard for player boards is based though.

>>96500415
I don't know about the BEST components but any game that uses poker chips is pretty based. I'm a big fan of the deluxe chips in Brass.

>>96500941
chits in general are awkward for me to handle. too small, too flat.

what about dice, guys? there are wooden dice, metal dice, plastic dice. which one do you prefer? for me it's plastic. wooden dice have no weight, metal dice are too heavy. plastic seems to be the perfect weight.

>>96500664
This violates the prenup and I will send her to live in the shed and tend my bees. If she abuses my bees I will get her on local animal cruelty laws.

Thoughts on Skymines? It looks like it should be one of the classics (Mombasa) but it seems it's largely forgotten.
Anyone still play it, if ever?

>>96501080
you're a beekeeper? that's based. i love bees.

>>96501122
I've looked at it, never played. I am very certain that the cluttered, ugly board is the reason people would rather play Mombasa because I would too

Anyway, if you just want a negotiation/corpo game take a look at New Angeles instead. If you really want stocks there's plenty of train games for that

>Zimbabwe
>Mombasa
>Atiwa
Other games with an African theme?

>>96501181
puerto rico

>>96501181
Cross Bronx Expressway
TGZ of course

>>96501202
bait

>>96501122
Skymines iconography is terrible, get Mombaseda instead

>>96501181
Mississippi Queen
Cartagena
Brazil: Imperial
Paris

>>96501181
Ticket to Ride: San Francisco

>>96501490
kek

>>96501523
That's a game with an Asian or Latin American theme

>>96501548
Definitely Asian

>>96501558
Africa might not live in SF but it commutes there at night to steal cars.

>>96500256
metal coins, first player marker, metal cubes(terraforming mars)

>>96500256
deluxe buttplug (kickstarter stretch goal)

>>96501748
Stop requiring apps for me to fully enjoy my board games

>>96501132
>If you really want stocks there's plenty of train games for that
Are there no non-train games that do it successfully

>>96501774
Power Grid or Pipeline?

>>96501181
Allow me to fix >>96501523
Ticket to Ride: Oakland

>>96501181
>Other games with an African theme?
there are a ton of them about north africa. Just Egypt and ww2 games alone

>>96501789
>Power Grid
Power grid has stocks?

>>96501774
Not truly stocks in the 18xx sense but rather the basic "your shares x number on the company track = vp", but in that the aforementioned mombasa is pretty good for a midweight game

>>96501122
I like mombasa quite a bit but never even looked at skymines twice, it looks that fucking awful. I also remember the company track looking weird in a way that implied bad gameplay changes

>>96501842
true
>>96501181
ra
kemet
sobek: two players
undaunted: north africa
the campaign for north africa: the desert war 1940-43

>>96501864
That's what I'm asking

>>96501864
The expansion does

Stephenson's Rocket and Heaven & Ale are pretty underrated. Good and interesting games without any bloat and tight enough to not be too simple.
Is there a reason they aren't more popular? Most complaints seem to be the "lack of theme"?

>>96501983
>Stephenson's Rocket
game from the 90s with a dry art style. should be reprinted and remade.
> Heaven & Ale
#377 in bgg's general rank. how much more popularity do you want?

>>96502015
Every game should at least be top 100

>>96502015
>bgg's rank
come on now. It's above Innovation, dixit, m&m,.. and many more but I doubt people actually play it. Or am I wrong? I never heard people here mention it.

>>96502282
instead of bullshit like pandemic and harmonies? absolutely.

>>96501983
>>96502015
I believe Stephensons rocket was remade, the new version has track tiles with actual forks so it looks cooler as you join railways. But probably the best thing about it is that the cards use for shares are replaced by tracks for the various companies so it's easier to... keep track
I have the old version, that ive picked up recently for 5 euro

it took SETI about year to get to #36. what explains such meteoric rise?

>>96502363
I dont care about gulag rankings (and neither should you) but the game is popular because it's a smooth, streamlined euro (almost to a sanitized degree) and it has a pretty thing in the center that spins but also makes sense thematically and mechanically.
Im not a fan of it, but it's easy to see why it's popular

>>96502414
so you didn't like it?

>>96502430
>not a fan of it
Wasn't impressed
Would play one or two more times if the group wants to but there are better games

Hallo everyone. I am Friedemann Friese, boardgame designer from Germany. Maybe you have heard of me. I have worked on games such as „Power Grid“ (Funkenschlag), „Friday“ (Freitag) or „Faiyum“. I just discovered your wonderfull community here. You can AMA if you want :)

If you attend Spiel fair at Essen this year I will be signing autographs and taking photographs with my fanatics. See you there!

>>96502395
I'll agree with >>96502414 almost word for word except I still can't tell you why SETI specifically got so popular.
I didn't like it that much as well for the same reason as anon, it's smoothed and mathed out to such a degree I almost feel like it gives you faux choices. Like hoe you can with 100% accuracy predict what the card you drew will cost because it's so formulaic. Which isn't bad, just kinda bland, and felt pretty disappointing for a game with the selling point of 1xx unique cards.
Wouldn't say no if someone asked me but I also wouldn't suggest it. And that makes it just one of a huge pile of euros

Are any of the Barrage expansions worth it?

>>96502395
Good art and enough people getting bored of Ark Nova and Terraforming Mars

>>96502478
I dunno about the extra maps or factions, but leeghwater or whatever it's called is shit and should be avoided, it makes the game looser (meaning worse)

>>96502476
Will you ever make a game called "faggotry" about anonymous users of a mongolian basked weaving forum larping as their favourite boardgame designers?
Also,
>Not writing everything in greentext

I'm kind of ashamed that i have never played Terraforming Mars. has it been replaced by a better game or is it still "rocking hard"?

>>96502478
What >>96502494 said. Leighwater makes the game more open and the game loses it's tightness. I mean of course it does if suddenly the game has more spaces for an equal amount of workers

>>96501983
>The Magnificent (2019)

>>96502476
where's my Fresh fish

>>96501181
Zulus on the ramparts!
Imperium: Horizons has a few underrated African civ decks

>>96502519
whoa finally a serious answer

>>96502395
>space theme with some sci-fi + aliens
>cheap
>good looking cover
>many mechanisms, multi-use cards
>"gimmick" - discover aliens that change the scoring
>"heavier" euro, not mean
>widely available

It has everything it needs.

>>96502514
They made the card version but generally for many it was replaced with Ark nova. Same idea with a ton of cards but now each player has their own board.

I wish they made a TM 2.0, Terraforming "celestial body name", where they would focus more on the communal board and increase player interaction while keeping the cardplay and engine building.

2025, I am forgotten...

>>96502476
How do you feel about Pipeline deciding to change the theme instead of launching a 2nd edition?

>>96502641
it's shocking that people a majority male hobby dont want to play as degenerate faggots in a gay club. who was this for? a very small demographic

>>96502478
>Barrage
Forget Barrage get Carnegie

>>96502641
Never would be mentioned here (or anywhere else) if Wehrle wasn't involved. Most people even think it was designed by him.

>>96502395
It's a good game with novel mechanics and gameplay that fits the theme.

>>96502675
You forgot about one particular type of male that's greatly overrepresented in the hobby

>>96502641
It's like a Rocky Horror board game that never was. I'm not sure what's going on with the availability however. I'm seeing prices around $75 or out of stock (last updated 09/03/2025)
I would absolutely get this to tease my group who's ready for a rousing game of faggotry? but I have my reservations about price.

>>96502686
To be fair, he's listed as a designer for it on bgg

>>96502686
Carnegie is fun for one game and then it's already solved

>>96502641
"Molly Houses" were disease ridden brothels where even minors were trafficked. Why would anyone design and publish a game with that theme?

Is there a chance The Expanse board game gets reprinted (re-themed if the license is the problem)? Why are there no other games that rip it off?

>>96502765
Yet it's okay that we have how many thousands of games about Caesar and Rome?

>>96502774
what did you like about it?

>>96502782
Yes.

>>96502814
>it's okay when he's my morally loose pederast

>>96502782
dishonest post, games about Caesar and Rome are about battles and empire-making, not about Caesar diddling boys

>>96502540
>Cheap
>€60 starting
Is this another instance where burgers laugh at us from a distance?

>>96502478
The maps add good variability and new gimmicks, but they do make the game just a tad looser since you get new bonuses for doing stuff.
The Duel map is excellent, albeit kind of uneeded if you print out the fanmade 2p/3p map.
The extra XOs are awesome, I love the guy that starts you with 8 multi-use machines; good thing they are just a tile you can easily print

>>96502686
>Carnegie
Weird how that one got traction, I thought it was almost the epitome of euroslop

>>96502843
Games about Rome mostly deal with empire-building, armies, diplomacy, not with faggot societies. By your gay logic there shouldn't be games set in America either. Or France. Or Italy. Or any country with degenerates.

>>96502863
>not about Caesar diddling boys
if Molly House actually has a mechanic for that I'm going to laugh and buy the game just to have a piece of notorious gaming history in my collection

>>96502892
>demanding consistency for who we praise and who we scorn is gay logic

>>96502868
look at other games in the same vein, most are around 80 eur.

>>96502808
the way the cards work. I heard it's taken from some wargames, coin(?) but the point that the game is shorter and more euro-like makes it more possible to get it played.

>>96502906
>logical consistency is when a faggot says that a game about an empire and a game about a specific degenerate place/time are the same thing

>>96502895
it does have a mechanic where you get publicly executed for sodomy which is pretty funny

>>96502906
what themes do you think are ok?

>>96502909
>look at other games in the same vein,
examples?

>>96502909
I suppose that's not untrue. It does however show how boardgame prices have increased massively in the post pandemic years.
>Muh woodpulp shortage
>Muh container shortage
>Muh shipping prices
Strange how prices kept increasing even after said crisis are over. Not saying it's bg industry greed, but someone upstream of the consumer did wider their cut, and I suspect that it's everyone involved
>Hmm purchasin price of X have increased by 10%
>Well lets increase our prices by 15% and blame whoever is upstream of us in the supply chain

>>96502885
Carnegie is legit really good. not sure what's remotely slop about it

>>96502906
Well apparently all historical and all real world themes with humans in it are degenerate
It's a fucking minefield

overrated euroslop or actual great game?

>>96502989
Well you do everything every game. You connect 4 (I think) cities, you climb to the top of every train track, you score the same endgame goals (because some are so very clearly easier than others). There is very limited interaction as well and ofc the theme. I mean you like what you like, but even as a parttime slop enjoyer I found it very unstatisfying and bland after just 3 or 4 games.

Now that I check I actually played it 6 times. What do you like about it? Or rather, how did you not find it bland? The different departments?

>>96503025
It reminds me of Unconscious Mind

>>96503080
that's a bad sign

>>96503089
Not consciously

>>96503025
I initially hated it, then thought it was actually quite good and then came back to slightly disliking it. I'd call it slop despite it being more interactive than most slop games just because I have begon to dislike these combotastic euros a lot. Oh, here's my action that triggers a chain of 5 other actions. Idk why I dislike it so much, it's not that I am bad at it. I do not find it statisfying though, not as player that executes a combo and very much not as a bystander. Might still be some deep trauma hidden inside me from pic related

>>96503098
heh

>>96502989
What's so good about it? I am in the mood for a new economic game.

when did euros go from having a shared board, player interaction and conflict to individual boards, multiplayer solitaire and no conflict? late 2000s?

>>96501774
the genius of train games doing stocks is that stocks on their own are meaningless, a stock is a certificate of you owning a share (part of) a company, and that ownership only makes sense when the company does something, anything, tangible. 18XX games and Railways of the Lost Atlas (which is close to 18XX but simpler) and even to a certain extent the Iron Rails series (Iberian Gauge my beloved) all give the companies a thing to do (make profit via making train lines and using trains on those lines) and that thing can be messed with by opponents (they block the line you wanted to make meaning your company doesn't earn enough to upgrade the trains, or the president of another company you invested into sells the good trains, buys the shit trains that will be obsoleted in about five seconds, and then sells the shares so the stock price plummets and you're the new president of a massive liability and a drain on your wallet).
Strange how nobody used this concept for something not trains related, but I guess conventions die hard, that's why we have fifty billion worker placement games that all play kinda similar to each other.

>>96503025
It's not my favorite Luciani game by a large margin, but it's not a bad game. It's basically just a really tight worker placement with cascading bonuses. I do wonder on the balance of some of the randomized actions in the game. It seems like the "use any lens" action spot is borderline overpowered. I also don't really love the species grid scoring where you multiply your books. It's branded as variable scoring that you may/may not invest in, but given the money you get from species early, people are going to max that shit out. It's basically not possible to ignore books if you want to win.

is there any euro that is actually great? not just decent or good but great? what's her name, /bgg/?

>>96503330
Anon how do you play boardgames as a hobby and not know and have not played any great euro?
Genuine question

>>96503365
im asking what you guys consider great, considering you're picky connoisseurs

>>96501774
City of Big Shoulders, its 18XX but instead of rails laying autism the operating phase is a regular euro cubepushing

>>96503219
The ancient gulag shitpost attributes it to The Princes of Florence (2000) but I think you could make an argument for any pre-2010 date.

>>96503330
Sure, I think The Great Zimbabwe is incredible.

>>96503387
I see. Obviously matter of taste etc etc so here's a few from the top of my head
>Agricola
>Alchemists
>Argent: The consortium
>Hegemony
>Ra
>Civolution
>El Grande

>>96503025
You always gotta deeply question a design if it has such an obvious 1/2nd player advantage that isn't adressed in any useful way. Drafting the starting missions is cool and all but no replacement for placing a loupe first and/or getting to be the first to deliver, maybe even twice

>>96503330
Argent
Bus
FCM
Indonesia
Hansa Teutonica
Hegemony
Sidereal Confluence
T&E

>>96503387
If you genuinely want recommends
>Ark Nova
>Brass
>Dune Imperium Uprising
>Eclipse 2nd Edition
>Grand Austria Hotel
>Revive
>Hansa Teutonica
I'd start with one of these, they're all excellent

>>96503799
>>96503781
>>96503488
economic games are not eurogames

>>96503865
Anon you need to save your ammo for the new thread!
Don't blow your load so early.

>>96503883
>Don't blow your load so early.
that's my specialty

>>96503865
Uhhhhh this is gonna be good

>>96503865
so what IS an eurogame, please someone explain it to me in plain terms cause all these labels keep getting thrown around and i can't make heads nor tail of it all

God I love 3D printing.

>>96504156
Seems neat
What would the resign for one of these cost? Just to check if the people selling custom inserts online are asking 1000% markups or just hobbyists sharing their stuff. I'd assume the latter but you never know

>>96504402
Friend made them, gave me 10 of the transparent spec holders for 10 bucks and 30 for the entire insert, he basically did it at a cost since we are pals.
But yeah people online pump up the price a ton, long ago I asked him to print some trays and he gave me 20 for about 12 bucks. Later on at a board game event I saw 1 (one) of the same tray for 7 dollars lmao.

should i date a woman with a 3d printer to get free stuff?

>>96500272
Bakelite is a specific type of plastic, and it's not manufactured much today. There are a lot of similar plastics though and some of them are popular with manufactures. The family of plastics is called phenolic resins.

>>96504022
Eurogame means you're playing for victory points...simple as

>>96504622
>a few acres of snow is an eurogame
>root is an eurogame
ok so basically 99.99% of games

>>96504022
It's one of those foreign-made quotes like "continental philosophy" which was created by Anglos to describe continental Europe's philosophical tradition. In this case, "Eurogame" was created by an American to describe German-style games in opposition to American games. Some of the big differences included: Euro games = making the most points, optimization, little randomness; American games = win-loss condition, thematic, medium to high randomness. It doesn't make that much sense now because unlike the 80s, 90s or early 2000s, the board gaming world is much more connected and this has given birth to hybrid games. Games that, for example, contain features from both eurogames and other types of games. However, games with the main features of eurogames are still called euros, even if they contain other shit.

>>96503445
>incredible
He asked for a great game.

thoughts on Kingdom Death: Monster? also why isn't the title just Kingdom Death?

>>96503889
https://e-hentai.org/s/47ffae1997/3521599-4

>>96504798
weird fetish game that some people really enjoy

It's probably cool idk I'm not spending 500 dollars to find out

>>96504622
Victory points are just the distance you've moved a pawn on a track. Candy Land is a euro game.

>>96501774
Yes, Black Friday does it well

>>96504825
>weird fetish game
beyond weird

>>96504846
What are you some, some puritan?

>>96504840
>Friedemann Friesse managed to show a happy merchant in the most subtle way possible while also showing an annoyed European man next to him
kek respect

>>96504854
What are we, some kinda Board Games General?

>>96504866
You can have board games without making everyone into a washboard.

>>96504875
Ok, you convinced me. You can have your big foreskin worm with a dozen tits.

>>96504909
Yippie

>>96502476
>>96504840
>>96504859
/ourguy/

>>96504925
Anti-Semitism is bad

>>96504942
sure

NEW THREAD
>>96505010
>>96505010
>>96505010
NEW THREAD

My favorite eurogames? Cosmic Frog, The Resistance, and the greatest of all, Go.

>>96504622
Merchants & Marauders is my favorite Eurogame.

>>96500557
Are you really dipping your components in molten plastic? What kind of plastic? Over an oven?