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Anonymous No.96497503 [Report] >>96497530
>>96497495 (OP)
Anonymous No.96497518 [Report]
Post Danmachi.
Anonymous No.96497530 [Report]
>>96497495 (OP)


>>96497503
shut up tok
Anonymous No.96497551 [Report] >>96497557 >>96499054 >>96499136 >>96499239 >>96501967 >>96503070 >>96503472 >>96503578 >>96504068 >>96504797 >>96505366 >>96505442 >>96506158 >>96507214 >>96507323
https://imgchest.com/p/5xy22anpnyl
https://rentry.org/outer_reincarnation_information

>Chronological Build List
A Hero of Justice https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96479399
Moonman https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96459760
Wanderer above the Sea of Fog https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96480941
Speedster Spider https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412603
Demonic Nightmare Maker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96487358/#96493315
The Black Messiah (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430522
Flagellant Gambler https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96411399
The Jötunnsdrottninggen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381145
Ithyl Twynis https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381847
Y'Sereth, King among Kings https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382717
Queen of Mamet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382899
Orkhalorkhan https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415856
Father of the Paracausal Arts https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96452392
The Wandering Professor (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96428837
Vëe the Dream Librarian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393021
Demon King of the Dead (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96386307/#96391919
Krinak, Syn Ufroka https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96399372
The Book of the Damned https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96426011
Ҁ Ф ʌ https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96459503/#96467167
Faina Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96447556
Unnotable Lich https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96479706
Escher https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96395910
Foolish Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96398017
Vai https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96399427
Mer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96400248
Anonymous No.96497552 [Report] >>96497805
Anonymous No.96497557 [Report] >>96497561 >>96503335
>>96497551
Aurum Arc the Golden Finger https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96400560
Red Drakonid (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96429221
King of The Exarchate (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96416022
Qarg the Conqueror https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404302
Son of Man (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404724
The Inquisitor https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96406963
Ultimate Scholar (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407218
Student https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407496
The Return of the King (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407523
Liriel, The Veilbreaker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96451577
Balrog the Emerald King https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427173
One-Woman Band https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412498
Ellavan "Ella" Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412568
Ren, Demon Lord of SRTR https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415916
HeWillWin https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415920
Goku Sasuke Master Chief Kakarot https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427458
Zyneheart https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96423015
Numerological Demon Lord https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96447883
Manusya, the Unwritten https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96425679
Fir Dahort https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96428141
Warlord (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430436
Liadan - Unbegotten Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96463819
He`el https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96431341
Rozir, the Vagabond King of Hexen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445292
Neophyte Sevastian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445422
Anonymous No.96497559 [Report] >>96497594
>>96497495 (OP)
man i actually miss the days when the cyoag threads werent infested with ai slop
Anonymous No.96497561 [Report]
>>96497557
Avi - Demonic Dragon Sage https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96446382
The Silk Matron https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96452816
The White Prophet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96454351
Led https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96458991
Aphainoumenos, Last Demon Prince https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96459966
Ars Goetia https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96461924
Thaumaradrak https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96468757/#96471990
Valar https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96459503/#96471461
Prince Aureole https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96477816
Rap God https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96479391
Common Man https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96480067
Alfrent (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96480079
Aera https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96482056
Illior of the Doria (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96482585
Godslayer Punchardt https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96487671
Lady, the Academy Meister https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96485991
The Curse Slinger https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96487358/#96493657
Fu'uq, the Pixie Bomber https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96487358/#96493201
Anonymous No.96497593 [Report] >>96497595 >>96497600 >>96497691 >>96497736 >>96497763 >>96497810 >>96498269 >>96502631
Stat cancer kino
Anonymous No.96497594 [Report]
>>96497559
what are you talking about?
Anonymous No.96497595 [Report] >>96497601
>>96497593
Anonymous No.96497600 [Report] >>96497618
>>96497593
>Futa
Retarded trap option, it is the combined weaknesses of being a man and a woman.
Anonymous No.96497601 [Report] >>96497605
>>96497595

also,
>falling for bait
Anonymous No.96497605 [Report]
>>96497601
Anonymous No.96497611 [Report] >>96497636
>>96497495 (OP)
>not the latest OC
Anonymous No.96497612 [Report]
>>96497495 (OP)
What are good CYOAs for being cruel to geeks? This isn't an ideological or moral statement, I just want to hurt imaginary people that I can empathize with.
Anonymous No.96497618 [Report]
>>96497600
it gives 12% while others only give 9%.
futa is best option, cope
Anonymous No.96497625 [Report] >>96498080
Technically, the Second War of Heaven and Earth encounter doesn't say that you cannot select it. Yes, the red 0^0 cockblock is over it, but it does not have
>Requirements: 0^0 is dead
Like every other blocked option. The locations are locked, but Jdan allows you to select encounters regardless of location, and Dobrava doesn't care about location in the first place.

Therefore, Dobrava can solo Charlie.
Anonymous No.96497636 [Report] >>96497707 >>96499031 >>96502468
>>96497611
personally i don't like Realmverse questing all that much but here you go: https://imgchest.com/p/lqyemdxdx7d
Anonymous No.96497691 [Report]
>>96497593
I don't like seeing futas in CYOA worlds, because it means that there will more female body types/voices running around as soldiers and leaders, which is pretty cringe.
Anonymous No.96497707 [Report] >>96497710 >>96497737 >>96498442 >>96498680
>>96497636
>personally i don't like Realmverse questing all that much
What are some CYOAs that had good quests?
I am quite partial to the quests in Battlemage myself. Simple and open ended is how I like em.
Anonymous No.96497710 [Report] >>96497717
>>96497707
Anonymous No.96497717 [Report] >>96497719
>>96497710
Anonymous No.96497719 [Report] >>96497724
>>96497717
Anonymous No.96497724 [Report] >>96497730
>>96497719
Anonymous No.96497730 [Report] >>96497739
>>96497724
Anonymous No.96497736 [Report]
>>96497593
I like seeing futas in CYOA worlds, because it means that there will more female body types/voices running around as soldiers and leaders, which is pretty hot.
Anonymous No.96497737 [Report] >>96497791
>>96497707
By simple and open ended, you mean so vague that concrete judgement is impossible, so it's all lol handwave.
Anonymous No.96497739 [Report]
>>96497730
Anonymous No.96497763 [Report]
>>96497593
I hate seeing futas in CYOA worlds, because it is gay.
Anonymous No.96497791 [Report]
>>96497737
“Concrete judgement” in a cyoa, what a joke, quests should be there to flesh out the world and give the player some in-universe activities or directions. With rewards, if applicable. Doing hard stat checks or win/loss conditions is fucking retarded and is detrimental to the cyoa unless you’re a master of mechanical balance. Which is something I have yet to see.
Anonymous No.96497805 [Report]
>>96497552
Tough toss up between Ghibli, Solar and Lethargy
Anonymous No.96497810 [Report]
>>96497593
I love seeing futas in CYOA worlds, because it is gay
Anonymous No.96498044 [Report]
>96492981
Sad there doesn't seem to be an Exemplar equivalent to the Craftsmen or Artisan. There's also no upgrades to the Miner that I can find. Also, no imgchest yet?
Anonymous No.96498064 [Report] >>96498102
>>96492981
Sad there doesn't seem to be an Exemplar equivalent to the Craftsmen or Artisan. There's also no upgrades to the Miner that I can find. Also, no imgchest yet?
Anonymous No.96498080 [Report]
>>96497625
ExploitGODS... We're unstoppable.
Anonymous No.96498102 [Report] >>96498571
>>96498064
https://imgchest.com/p/qb4znrrn54j
This is the imgchest with pngs from the last thread. P2A and P2B are not separated in it, since they would be too large anyway.
Anonymous No.96498269 [Report] >>96498273
>>96497593
14(16.94) STR (+21%), 10(8) DEX, 11(15.66) CON (+6%), 10(10.6) HLT (+6%), 10 INT, 10(10.3) WIS (+3%), 10(11.3) LUK (+3%), 10(12.3) RES (+3%), 10(10.3) MND (+3%)
>Male (+6% STR, +3% WIS)
For once going Futa isn't the most optimal path for my build, thank god for that.
>Tall (+6% STR, -3% DEX)
>Fit (+6% STR, +3% CON, +3% HLT, -3% INT, -3% WIS)
Stronger and tankier. WIS evens out and the INT/DEX hits aren't significant enough to matter until I'm shooting myself at Level 90+ for the 3+ INT/DEX I'm missing out on.
>Classes, Profession x2, Titles, Guild Master
Doubled Profession is like becoming the ultimate support character. Heals, buffs, debuffs, contracts, scrolls, enchants, weapons, armor, clothing, all in one package. Topped with Classes and Titles for further specialization and I can make damn near anything. Plus since these interfaces make crafting a breeze the relevant skills will increase far faster than someone without them could hope for.
>Basic Crafting Boost, Minor Reinforcement, Minor Repair, Minor Pyromancy
The bread and butter skills of any half-decent System crafter. Crafting Boost is obvious. Minor Repair gives me immediate utility value to everyone since I'm probably the only guy around that can repair magical equipment (and all the other non-magical stuff destroyed by the literal apocalypse). Minor Reinforcement can make a lot of things endure where they would otherwise fail, like preventing gun barrel explosion from super-overpressure ammunition, or blocking an attack with your weapon that would otherwise go right through. Minor Pyromancy is just useful and magical, precise heat control could be very useful for working with metal.

(1/2)
Anonymous No.96498273 [Report]
>>96498269
>Pendant, Heavy Chestplate, Hammer
More STR/RES, armor, and a good multipurpose tool. I'm starting with the Hammer since currently monsters are "highly resistant" to firearms for unknown reasons, but a big goal of mine will be overcoming this limitation and switching back to guns ASAP. In the CYOAs scenario Crafters are by far the most equipped to effectively use guns, so this could result in interesting class/skill options.
>Advanced System
>Initial Craftsmen Guild, Initial Scholar Guild
+3% to most stats, +8% bonus to crafting quality, and +8% skill XP. All great boons, the stuff I craft is 12% better right out the gate. Ideally as a Guild we would all specialize in different areas of craftsmanship to make up for each others weaknesses, but finding other people with crafting-oriented Systems (or manually teaching someone the skills I have) could take awhile. In the meantime I plan for this to be a pro-humanity guild focused on rebuilding society and saving as many people as possible through heroism and the proliferation of magical arms. If a regular gun can't kill the monsters, a magical gun should suffice. As this is a great Endeavor, I name my guild the Endeavor Guild, with our banner being a burning hammer.

(2/2)
Anonymous No.96498442 [Report]
>>96497707
What is best for a Sentinel along with Strength and Agility, Precision or Clarity, one make you better with your weapon but the other help you know what is going on in a melee.
Anonymous No.96498571 [Report] >>96498591
>>96498102
Nice. Also, it doesn't say if you HAVE to take Regular or Higher Followers. Can you just...not take any options there, and take Heritage, to ensure that your childer are all Exemplars?
Anonymous No.96498591 [Report] >>96501968
>>96498571
I did not consider that. I don't know exactly how that would work, since I assumed there would definitely be a suitable range of types for them to develop into. If there isn't one that is even close to what they do have from their race and their own efforts, it might come into effect later than normal when they are closer.
Anonymous No.96498647 [Report] >>96498670 >>96498683 >>96498708 >>96498729 >>96498742 >>96498804 >>96499258 >>96500971 >>96501045 >>96501297 >>96501805
People are really sleeping on insular bonuses, I haven't seen a single build with them. Granted, most are easily replicated, yet there are a few gamechangers hidden in there.

Palatiner may be the best of the bunch. Extracting Majin letters is no big deal, especially with lesser practices, Daemonhunt can easily teach you this. What they can't do is "study and manually recast these inborn letter spells". This enables you to grab all those broken abilities for yourself, even without carrying around a specific letter.Get a god controlling hive mind shadow by doing Betrayal Most Foul on Ota. Shank Baf to inherit Xian's power and knowledge yourself. Take the overpowered ability nullifying from Fot. Or even do it all at the same time, this is even without speaking of what else can be out there.

Auburn starts you with a knowledge to build warmachina from scratch. This is already miles ahead of everyone in the setting, including Brastat. He will only start learning about warmachina after your meeting, finding out how to actually build them if the stars align favorably. By this time you can already innovate your way to Greater Warmachina yourself and keep going to Vtorusha's level.

Benewhisper looks like shit at the first glance, just some generic spells. Among those spells is hidden an ability to create teleportation anchors in a setting where freeform teleportation is a unique ability of one companion and findinf even one portal is treated as a major boon. And you can share it. Whatever side you are on will get such a logistical advantage, it is not even funny.
Anonymous No.96498657 [Report] >>96498734 >>96498766 >>96498859 >>96498921 >>96499235 >>96499421 >>96499489 >>96499518 >>96499863 >>96500293 >>96502569 >>96503177 >>96503205 >>96503216 >>96503581 >>96504931 >>96507205
I have unironically been a bit obsessed with this interactive:

https://altcyoaisekaitheend.neocities.org/

(Warning, mildly lewd, extremely lewd if you go into the specific NSFW section).

The way it does it's powers as separate archetypes with capstones is pretty interesting and encourags build crafting, though there's some serious point scarcity and I think it could do with more general abilities to round out your build.
The two schools I like the most are Blue Magic and Puppet Magic, but shapeshifting and puppets are awkward to mesh together. I'm not really interested in the ability that turns you into a hivemind zombie plague either.
Anonymous No.96498670 [Report] >>96498690
Do you think that it would be fair for Autoantecedence + Kneeling Twilight (x3) to create a sleep "save point" that can't be overwritten entering dungeons and sleeping?

>>96498647
You know several of these sound like great ideas even if having only one language is very limiting.
Anonymous No.96498680 [Report]
>>96497707
>What are some CYOAs that had good quests?
Nxtub's Honor Among Thieves and Paranormal Debt Collector are mostly quests.

Tankista's Blood Magic didn't have quests so much as it had campaigns you could join. And like Battlemage, there were rewards.

The very, very NSFW cyoa Second Contact runs (you) through several years of life after militantly female supremacist aliens invade.

Isekai Bounty Hunter kind of blurs the Enemy and Quest sections together, and it came out pretty good.

And I am really fried, or else I'd probably have more suggestions. I need to call it a night, but I'll try and post some more tomorrow.
Anonymous No.96498683 [Report]
>>96498647
As many languages you know, as many times you are a human being.
Anonymous No.96498690 [Report]
>>96498670
>Kneeling Twilight x3
Souds slightly underpowered for 6 points. All-Glimpse is right there and it costs only five.

>You know several of these sound like great ideas even if having only one language is very limiting.

Surprisingly, not as limiting as I initially thought. All three of them cost one point, so tutoring remains an option. Enough to at least have several good companians/mentors.
Anonymous No.96498708 [Report]
>>96498647
You, know I think I might try out a mono language build. That Auburn bonus does sound pretty good.

Kinda wish Tankista balanced the bonuses around something like: Get all three bonuses if it's your only language, Get two bonuses if you know two, and get only the last bonuses if you know 4.
Anonymous No.96498729 [Report]
>>96498647
Getting the insular bonus can get pretty expensive if your preferred mentors / companions languages don't match yours. The build I posted (Ithyl) went for the Palatiner bonus regardless, though I didn't go as far as to gank potential Majin companions.
Anonymous No.96498734 [Report]
>>96498657
You do know there's a thread for NSFW cyoas in /trash, right?
Anonymous No.96498742 [Report] >>96498765
>>96498647
>Just backstab your friends bro!
least sociopathic powerfag
Anonymous No.96498765 [Report] >>96498770 >>96498772
>>96498742
Backstabbing Ota is a public service, she is literally trying to erase a personhood of all Majin.
Anonymous No.96498766 [Report] >>96498850
>>96498657
I want to get the song of hope so bad, but 2 years to handle a horseman just doesn't feel like enough.
Anonymous No.96498770 [Report]
>>96498765
But on the other hand he's doing that for mind control, the most stigmatized and risky of all classic superpowers.
Anonymous No.96498772 [Report] >>96498791
>>96498765
Lol, I forgot that she'll still be trying to do that even if you don't pick her. Majin Outsiders will probably need to hunt her down.
Anonymous No.96498791 [Report]
>>96498772
She'd fall for me the moment she sees me.
No True Love required.
Anonymous No.96498804 [Report] >>96498815
>>96498647
God Script Insular is one of two steps you need to take to easily wash 0^0.
Anonymous No.96498815 [Report] >>96498839
>>96498804
I mean yeah, if you become an Elder God you should be able to easily deal with 0^0
Anonymous No.96498839 [Report]
>>96498815
Which makes you wonder why anons don't take it. Are they stupid?
Anonymous No.96498841 [Report]
Remember: that bitch doesn't deserve you.
Anonymous No.96498844 [Report]
Anonymous No.96498850 [Report] >>96498878 >>96498899
>>96498766
Yeah I looked at it and decided it just was too extreme for me. There's options in the Weaving section to expand the amount of time you get to deal with the crisis that might help?

Honestly I'm a bit iffy about the crises...es(? was the plural of 'crisis'?) in general. The global war one was the one I picked by default just for the most points vs what was reasonable: at least it's only humans doing it so I might be able to sort somrthing out. The Weaving section even has an option for Nazis so I can have a clear evil side.

The actual fun one sounds like the Magic Girl thing, but you don't really get enough info about what's going on and it all sounds a bit weird. It acts like magic girls are this useless foolish wish distorting a mundane world when the setting is otherwise modernized high fantasy with shit like magic monsters and shapeshifting mind controlling mage overlords. Magic girls shouldn't even register as odd.

That and low points. Points in this thing are fucking scarce. Except for if you use the jack of all restriction which grants you a 100 of the damn things and extra roots, and has been surprisingly tempting since very few of the capstone abilities I actually care about (Except the incredibly awesome Blue mage one that turns you into Alex Mercer).
Anonymous No.96498859 [Report] >>96498891
>>96498657
If you go for the tech skill of Blue Magic, you can take the perk that give you one more class and choose the crafting one to boost both Blue and Puppet magic with. Really expensive though.
Anonymous No.96498878 [Report] >>96498891
>>96498850
>>The actual fun one sounds like the Magic Girl thing, but you don't really get enough info about what's going on and it all sounds a bit weird.
All I got from it is that the mascots empowered the girls as part of a ritual to destroy the world. Also, they're all going to "witch" eventually and reveal the seeds of chaos inside them, even if you don't drive them to it yourself. Also, although the cyoa seems to encourage you to do that, it seems to actually be a failstate. You need to target the mascots and prevent the magical girls from falling into despair.
Anonymous No.96498891 [Report] >>96498911
>>96498859
Crazy expensive. Puppet magic seems neat but it is a support skill that requires support skills to make good, or seems like. Hell you need mutiple magic boosts just to make the range increased. And the battlemage link ability seems like 'hey here's puppet magic but better in range and utility'.

I considered taking the Jack of All Trades option (+100, +2 roots) to get Blue Magic, Puppet magic, Enchanting and something else (Black Magic maybe) and still be able to easily pay for them all.

Out of all of them the only capstone i care about is Blue Magic's 'True Shapeshifting/Immortality' option, but that's a seriously good option I really want. The Blue Magic also has the Machine one, but I actually don't think that is needed given Puppet magic is stated to be able to make prosthetic limbs.
That'd make it so I could make a real puppet army as well as interesting prosthesis for myself. I could change out option 4 depending on the build: black mage is the default, but battlemage's link spell opens up even more options.

But losing out on true shapeshifting! That is my dream power, and it's basically immortality. Makes me wonder if that's something I could reasonably just learn by myself.

>>96498878
I completely believe you in that probably is what is going on but is also totally not what is actually written, which is just weird.
Anonymous No.96498899 [Report]
>>96498850
I think a jack of all Champion with EGO can get really really strong, take Red and Blue magic with it, and Enchanting II, you can take the war and most quests/missions to pay for it.
Anonymous No.96498911 [Report] >>96498963
>>96498891
While Puppet can make prosthetic limbs I think Blue can make them a part of your body and thus they get whatever boost you got, like the stats from using Blue.
Anonymous No.96498921 [Report] >>96498942 >>96498963 >>96500609
>>96498657

Just finished a build myself. Absolutely not surviving, but chose Riders of the Apocalypse difficulty with Song of the End and Song of Hope.

I feel like the main three Binding Archtypes are a little skewed.

>Martial Paragon
Easily the worst. No magic (really), slightly stronger, and too stupid to be mind controlled.

>Enlightened Magus
Only just better, making you a frail 40 year old that can never improve just so you can use stronger magic that tax you weak body more because it doesn't increase the only static stat: Backlash Resistance.

>Jack of All Trades
Can't take any of the 'capstone' abilities (which can be negated partially by racial bonuses), but you get more than triple the other two's shards and also get to take 2 extra roots.

>Revisions
Free points, most of them should probably just be flavour that opens up their other options. Giving points for civilisations, regardless of their hostility, seems largely too easy.

>Expeditions
They're just free points. Most of them seem incredibly doable if not things that will just sort themselves out if left alone with the right selections in Revisions.

All in all, though, really enjoyable. Those are my only negative remarks about it. I'll leave the middling Lewd stuff alone. It's inoffensive, if not a bit out of place once you start getting into it as a generic Isekai. It'd not really be changed by the lewd being removed except for losing a few free points.

Ended up as a Jack of All Trades with a focus on Physical due to taking Greater Pedigree: Dragon giving me access to STR II, DEX II, and END II.

>Arch Types
Warrior, Strength Boost I, Strength Boost II, Dexterity Boost I, Dexterity Boost II, Endurance Boost I, Endurance Boost II
Red Mage, Magic Boost I, Riposte
Blue Mage, Flesh Graft, Essence Graft, Redundant Biology
Champion, Endurance Boost III, Soulbound Weapon: Hero, Reforged Soul, Legendary Resistance
Artificer, Enchanter I, Enchanter II

Just turned myself into a Magic Knight, really.
Anonymous No.96498942 [Report] >>96499221
>>96498921
>Ended up as a Jack of All Trades with a focus on Physical due to taking Greater Pedigree: Dragon giving me access to STR II, DEX II, and END II.
Taking Champion make everything you can get from Warrior free already, don't know if it stack with Dragon.
Anonymous No.96498963 [Report] >>96499221
>>96498911
True, but the main skill of puppeteering (Spooky Action) makes things you puppet count as your own body for the purpose of spells. So if I puppet limbs, those should *already* benefit from blue magic.

It's a weird bit of anti-synergy between the two and one I'd like to pick the author's brains on. Blue magic either gives you true fleshwarping or options to absorb artificial parts. So the mecha option seems tailor made for puppet magic, but if you think about it you're actually doubling up and would be better off with the fleshwarping option (or so I assume, maybe its wishful thinking in wanting my preferred build not to be unoptimal).

>>96498921
I'm glad this has infected so many other anon's brains. Makes me feel less insane for staring at this CYOA all day yesterday.

I was touching none of the archetypes. The mage one would be fine if it just made it so you couldn't access absurd strength or whatever, but turning you into a puddle of goo is too far. As much as it would be fun to be a paper mache mage surrounded by puppets, in this world puppets have like a 50m range, you'd die.

I like your build too. You'd be a pretty absurd opponent. I'd be worried it wouldn't be enough for the scenario though, too single combat focused. Turning yourself into an entire army seems almost necessary. But i guess there is the scenario specific companion who seems to be able to handle the non-combat elements apparently?
Looking over this there must be some truly disgusting stealth focused builds, even if you avoid the meme basilisk archetype.
Anonymous No.96499031 [Report] >>96499047
>>96497636
He probably meant Reverse Isekai Light Overlord
Anonymous No.96499047 [Report] >>96499088
>>96499031
Why is it Reverse Isekai? Is it because the realm is attacked by demon lords from demon world? Is that what counts as Reverse Isekai nowadays?
Anonymous No.96499054 [Report] >>96499134
>>96497551
What kinds of things can elven law magic do?
Anonymous No.96499088 [Report]
>>96499047
It takes place on Earth, so maybe because of that? Technically it's the demons who're isekaing though.
Anonymous No.96499115 [Report] >>96499118 >>96499242 >>96499342 >>96503534 >>96503594 >>96506102 >>96506389 >>96506525 >>96506830 >>96506863
Last thread's OC
Anonymous No.96499118 [Report] >>96499121
>>96499115
Anonymous No.96499121 [Report] >>96499128
>>96499118
Anonymous No.96499128 [Report] >>96499132
>>96499121
Anonymous No.96499132 [Report] >>96507148
>>96499128
imgchest:
https://imgchest.com/p/qb4znrrn54j
Anonymous No.96499134 [Report] >>96499163
>>96499054
It depends on elven laws instead of words of the Gods as a primary source, this is all we have canonically.

To extrapolate from that, it may be more useful for various cases that were of enough interest to the ruling class of a nation to enshrine them in law. Any society that could mandate something like "Our fields should be bountiful, our trade routes safe" and have it magically enforced sure as hell would do it. You can borrow their millenia of work for your use.

The real prize is an ability to influence the creation of new laws yourself, but for this you'll need to help Ciliren reestablish a successor state for the Firstborn Empire. Or somehow possess her without Fiert to skip that step, if you are mean enough to do it to her.
Anonymous No.96499136 [Report] >>96499164
>>96497551
And there was a new excel page for OR 2 days ago, some might have missed it.
Anonymous No.96499163 [Report]
>>96499134
We do know it contains some buffing and controlling spells because of Fay insular.
Anonymous No.96499164 [Report] >>96499177 >>96499182 >>96499186
>>96499136
nobody cares autismanon, even the OR posters dont read these
Anonymous No.96499170 [Report]
What weapon will your OR build use?
Anonymous No.96499171 [Report] >>96499201 >>96499216 >>96499250
>be 0^0
>see that a kingdom has its rulers adopt some demon dragon freak
>send Nilmatrix to choke it out in its cradle
gg no re
Anonymous No.96499177 [Report] >>96499180
>>96499164
I do, but daemonhunt is boring. They are not good guys and being a part of paramilitary organization sucks unless you are completely exempt from any and all paperwork like Darina.
Anonymous No.96499180 [Report] >>96499185
>>96499177
>They are not good guys
Demon lord hands typed these words.
Anonymous No.96499182 [Report]
>>96499164
sorry I thought this was a community supportive and welcoming of the autistically inclined
Anonymous No.96499185 [Report] >>96499231
>>96499180
How many Outsiders have purged them?
Anonymous No.96499186 [Report]
>>96499164
Anonymous No.96499201 [Report] >>96499206
>>96499171
>dragon freak is fated to survive, fate pulls out all stops to ensure ir
>Nilmatrix is crushed by Vtorusha's forgotten rod from god suddenly misfiring
>her spirit is eaten by a passing by Nightmare to prevent repeat attempts
>rage, curse Elder gods, seethe, cope

She learned her lesson with Keter.
Anonymous No.96499206 [Report] >>96499218
>>96499201
>Nilmatrix brings the baby before her, and chokes it out as she watches*
Anonymous No.96499216 [Report]
>>96499171
>Niljobtrix
One solos.
Anonymous No.96499218 [Report]
>>96499206
>The 11th Outsider suffers severe brain damage (nothing changes)
Anonymous No.96499221 [Report] >>96499228 >>96500393
>>96498942
Oh shit, maybe that's accounted for in the interactive and explains how much other shit I managed to get.

>>96498963
Yeah, I'd agree, but the amount of kit and companions I bought really will take chunks out of the First and Third Horsemen. Honestly, the Second Horseman is my biggest worry. I invested next to nothing in social stuff. I chose a really probably dogshit start (the floating island) just because it negates most of the dangers from First and Fourth as well as a non-trivial portion of Second and Third. But honestly, considering I only have UP TO a year for the First Horseman to start, I would probably be much better off getting plopped in a place I could develop faster and accrue companions external to the Divine-given ones in the CYOA itself.

>Perks
Mana Battery, Lucky, Mana Boost, Healthy Living, Cunning Linguist, Anti Antimagic Magic Magic, Bug Spray,

>Lewd
Flavor Additive, Vaccines Cause..., Staminan Royale, Hygiene Field, Censorship, Careless Whisper, Training Montage?, No Refractory, Lucky?, Winner's Prize, Reorientation, Incest Is Wincest, Libido 2x, Sensitivity 2x, Virile, Overproduction(Taken 4 Times), Endurance(Taken 2 Times), Dom

>Ultimate
E.G.O

The idea, beyond making myself endlessly grow via base stats and Blue Mage, is to enchant everything. I want to build up an entire squadron of Mage Knights and roll with a band of runic glowing fuckers.

>Weaving Perk things
Manifested Weapon, Magic For Dummies, Survival Gear

Yeah, Manifested Weapon is countered by Champion: Hero's Weapon (or w/e) but it's needed for E.G.O. so that I can get tonk armour.

Everything else is just world Building
Anonymous No.96499228 [Report]
>>96499221
It IS accounted for. I read it after writing that. No need to fact check me. I'm stupid.

>The World Building:
Tech: 1965, World: Cursus Honorum, Epic Battle Fantasy, World: All Under Heaven, Martial Artistry, Mandate of Heaven, World: Scarab of the Sun, Gods Who Walk, World: Terrestrial Fire, Blood of the Earth, Devotion, Witchcraft & Wizardry, Deep Veins, Collegia Titanica, Free Healthcare, Wilds: Jungle, Wilds: Ferocity, Wild Tide, Letters of Marque, Imminent, Favoritism

Decent guns from the year (outmoded by Collegia Titanica but it never specifies that so I didn't take the more points options just in case it's not for some reason), every culture available because variety breeds all sorts of good stuff, and more resources and Magic Education can only help me in the next nearly a year.
Anonymous No.96499231 [Report]
>>96499185
>appeal to authority
>Outsiders of all people being in charge of determining goodness of something
But sure, Sarmat did. Others were simply less politically involved with local affairs of Doria or were born before the Daemonhunt even really existed.
Anonymous No.96499235 [Report] >>96499241 >>96499863
>>96498657
>World Event:
Riders of the Apocalypse

>Body:
Monster Heritage: £»©—£¶—

>Power Archetypes:
Warrior, Blue Mage, Champion, Artificer: All

>Perks:
One Chance

>Ultimate Combos:
Rho Aias, E.G.O, Philosopher's Stone

>Provisions:
Cornucopia

Creatio ex nihilo.

>Revisions:
Brighter Lights: All Good Things
Impending Doom: Incoming x7

>Expeditions:
Bounties: Nemesis

Probably a redditor, good riddance.

>Arrival:
Landing: Heavenhold
Aspirations: Do Some Science, Reach The Origin

The above is build highlights.

>Plan:
1. Replace my body.
2. Take control of and learn about Heavenhold.
3. Travel across the world to complete Expeditions and gather materials and knowledge.
First Horseman: Stealth or bulldoze my way through depending on the assessed risk.
Second Horseman: Support the Yu Dynasty, the strongest country.
Third Horseman: Famine is preemptively dealt with by me spreading super advanced food production techniques and technology. I can easily create cures on the spot for Pestilence.
Fourth Horseman: With my immense power, the Yu Dynasty, and the secrets from Heavenhold, this is easy.

>Build Code:
opening,opening2,everything,d9mb,wwyu,7yxu,m5gj,rome,china,iawz,egypt,aghj532,aztec,sov3,goodchurch,bwqb,d8ul,rl43,acwx,feib,aygd,7g69,8v2y,es5g,igpg,i0lm,05az,tzin,r4t4y6u7kidfgn,pokiujhj,5nfy,lkh1,e5ow,22g1,4lq3,krwe,acm9,pfzi,t4jg,loner,goodworld,extralewd,extralewd_lewd_adjuster,male,macho,futanari,lgxs,amm5,h7j5,o0a4,cd8n,40h9,7h86,gov4,lmon,p2kv,r0o2,2kuu,syuw,08n4,h8k3,4g7b,bc32,xmae,de63,v02s,6uut/ON#2,ev1u/ON#2,knight,end3,pb38,o7iv,0gcn,q0o0,artificer,hrxy,kym7,c8bi,ry5q,japr,ob4b,bluemage,3x0e,5ok7,w99m,x0na,rwsx,kuz1,9iy1,i04r,j7rg,5rqh,docv,54jb,02l0,pgpc,bhhg,9oks,duch,qopi,lewdlandings,2q2b,xz03,isvi,kj3r,u3y3,99qx,y2xm/ON#7,8p3v,3xmh/ON#2,aspirationtab,7h3h,74ad,op8t,dx1i,55r1,getraped,7lqp,monster,s8xq,warrior,str1,str2,dex1,dex2,end1,end2,jram,imwm,f7au,0ykd,ule7,n4d5,u99c,cbri,4o9r,rclc,ia27,i2p6,iyuj,5ys9,37v9
Anonymous No.96499239 [Report] >>96499252 >>96499405
>>96497551
>Dirk has suffered enough without having to deal with Anonymous from 4chan.
Suffering builds character.
Anonymous No.96499241 [Report]
>>96499235
Decent cyoa. It being nsfw is a mistake.
Anonymous No.96499242 [Report]
>>96499115
>Dark sovereign
yooooo!! wtf
also i really like the art used here
Anonymous No.96499250 [Report]
>>96499171
I'd strangle that bitch like a snake she is while still being in cradle.
Anonymous No.96499252 [Report] >>96499339
>>96499239
Paxxia’s pretty cute, guys.
Maybe I can fix her.
Anonymous No.96499258 [Report]
>>96498647
The insular bonuses are OK, but you give up too much to get them, and it is still possible to acquire these skills later on.
Anonymous No.96499339 [Report] >>96499442
>>96499252
Don't be fooled, anon. This is a face of rape and domination, tirelessly hounding you to produce Apantoxia. Nowhere is safe.
Anonymous No.96499342 [Report]
>>96499115
Wild Hunt build
>Ideal
Hero
>Blessings
Indomitable
Gates
Nomadic
Noosphere
Unity
Disciples
>Burdens
Deadline
Frontline Command
Smite
I Would Win
>Races
Elves (Own Race)
Beasts
Fairies
>Followers
E - Elves
F - Fairies
B - Beasts
Regular: Warrior (E), Watchmen (E), Mount (B), Hunter (E), Archer (E), Charger (E)
Higher: Knight (E), Ranger (E), Druid (E/F), Lancer (E), Exceptional Mount (B)
Exemplar: Champion, Thaumaturge, Valkyrie, Slayer, Sword Saint, Heirophant, Artillery, Obfuscator, Elemancer, Resurrector (Mix E/F/B. Magic units lean towards Fairies, physical units lean towards Elves, with Beasts mixed in here and there)

This is a build focused on constantly moving and keeping pressure on demonic armies as an unstoppable and unpredictable strike-force. Mere mortals may not even cast their gaze upon the Wild Hunt, but where we pass all evidence of demonic incursion is scoured clean utterly, and the lightning of our approach will strike fear into the demons. I don't have time to pick through the Vassals now but I certainly will in the future.

>"To hunt until the last Judgment Day, Till World and Time were finished."
Anonymous No.96499355 [Report] >>96504163
Damn, not being adopted while trying to come up with a mono language build is suffering. With Autoantecedence and Icons, it only leaves me like 5 AP for other gifts.
Anonymous No.96499392 [Report] >>96499398 >>96500625
Danmachi?
Anonymous No.96499398 [Report] >>96499406 >>96499570
>>96499392
dead and solved
Anonymous No.96499405 [Report]
>>96499239
Chance of not being Dirk Yesod
Anonymous No.96499406 [Report] >>96499415 >>96499460
>>96499398
How? How is it solved?
Anonymous No.96499415 [Report] >>96499556 >>96500173
>>96499406
No one can beat a Spirit Fire + Metamagic build. Not even with Combat 3 (assuming you took Scheming 1).
Anonymous No.96499421 [Report] >>96499426
>>96498657
> Event:
Second Horseman (Total War) +200

>Binding:
Jack of All Trades +100 /2 Root choices

>Body:
Pedigree/Kitsune (Gives Dexterity II, Magic Boost I). Waif.

>Archetypes:

Blue Mage: Flesh Graft, Essence Graft, Redundant Biology, Nameless Faceless
Puppeteer: Spooky Action, Artisanal Puppetmaker, Limited Autonomy, Puppet Overdrive
Artificer: Enchanter I,II, Engineer I
Battlemaster: Scry, Cover, Link, Guide

>Perks:
Mana Boost, Mana Battery, GPS, Anti Antimagic Magic Magic

This is the basics of my build, which is still like 25 shards in positive by picking up some piss-easy Weaving options so I've got room to play around.

The only thing I'm still salty on is missing out on the Blue Mage Ultimate Lifeform capstone. But having two extra archetypes and actual points to use without going into the suicide Apocalypse option is well worth it.

The idea is with Artificer I can easily enchant better puppets than anyone else (Engineer should make it easier too). With Spooky Action I can have them cast the Link spell on themselves, turning every puppet I create into one of my expanding hive mind and bypassing the stupid range limit Puppeteer has.
My puppets are all my body, so Blue Magic will buff all of them. Anyone killed strengthens the entire swam. With that and enchantment together they should each be monstrous opponents.
I can also do things like kill someone and have a puppet take their form and memories, to create perfect spies or just know what the enemy is up to.
CONT
Anonymous No.96499426 [Report]
>>96499421

Battlemasters are considered unbeatable with standard troops. My puppets will all be emigods and yet completely disposable. It doesn't matter if the enemy kills the puppet that is scryign their entire force for example, because it's a puppet.
Puppets will probably mostly use conventional attacks or melee to fight, simply because I still have to limit my mana. They can also be used to cast spells though and absorb the backlash, or just outright self-destruct.

I should never need to get in the same continent as the enemy, ideally, but my real body can use prosthetics to look just like any other puppet if needed. If not then blue magic creates some terrors and Jack of All Trades explicitely makes me better at learning things. With me practicing with as many bodies as I can any skill should be easy to pick up, limited only by mana. I'm hoping that I can learn the Blue Magic Ultimate Lifeform ability myself with time, since that is the only skill that would completely transform my abilities further. Completely shapeshifting and immortality aside: mana to flesh and vice versa is sort of broken in a war. Bodies become mana to be spent, mana becomes new disposable puppets to create more mana.

I chose the Total War apocalypse because I felt it'd be the easier one to deal with since it's just humans. You can even use Revisions to make their technology worse and make them unprepared for conflict (gaining points for doing so) to hopefully make the conflict slightly less terrible. Though I'd also be comfortable in the Demon Invasion option I think.

With the extra points I've still got I could try to make the scenario easier, or push it and blow 50 shards on Immortality. (Doesn't seem like it'd be needed with blue magic and redundant brains/organs but who knows).
Anonymous No.96499442 [Report]
>>96499339
>heroic Paxxia swims across oceans and runs across jungles and deserts to rape a shota in random Mamet jungle village
Anonymous No.96499460 [Report]
>>96499406
Make a custom god and it’s basically just a leisurely hedonistic paradise build. Why bother going into the Dungeon at all? The setting is kind of retarded honestly. For all the talk of how serious the Dungeon is, it is hardly the main focus once you realize there’s functional infrastructure involved. Make a whore house. Make a casino. It’s that easy.
Anonymous No.96499489 [Report] >>96499518
>>96498657
>CRISIS: riders of the apocalypse
>YOU: fem, curvy, monster: arboreal, more human
monsters have magic affinity and a bunch of strong abilities, I specifically like the disease immunity to counter pestilence

>MODS: immortality, sweet mercy, no sleep, good breeding

>BINDS: jack of all trades, benevolence, emergence
10% weaker start means nothing against an x10 learning boost

>TYPES: warrior (all skills), black mage (all skills-generalist), white mage (all skills), red mage (all skills), champion (all skills)
every single magic boost, the best cqc, plus the class that meshes magic and cqc should make me into an old fashioned but very strong one man army.
a shame black mage needs to use a staff, but with soulbound items I could switch from melee to staff in an instant

>PERKS: mana battery, gps, healthy living, linguist, anti antimagic magic, one chance
>DRAWBACKS: destined death, overpowered reincarnation
with emergence + jack of all, these two drawbacks are just free points if combined with one chance

>weaving 1
>PROVISION: manifested weapon (staff)
champion's soulbound only works on armor and melee, so it's better to get this one as a staff for my black mage class

>WORLD: tech 2025, all under heaven, martial artistry, scarab of the sun, terrestrial fire, blood of the earth, devotion, witchcraft & wizardry, deep veins, collegia titanica, free healthcare, wilds jungle, ferocity, wild tide, council: promise
I'm just one (OP) hero, the world needs to be strong enough to defend itself too

>DOOM: incoming x5, carnal instinct, aggressive pollination
jack of all starts out weaker so I need some time to make the most of my x10 learning boost

>EXPEDITION: street sweeping, big game hunt, urban legend, light bringer, gate guardian, hive tyrant

>ENCOUNTER:
>h schronder
unit's strength scales with own prowess, yeah they are going to be STRONG

>hinata
it would be incredibly stupid to not take her in this crisis

>ARRIVAL: danger zone
Anonymous No.96499490 [Report] >>96499509 >>96499562 >>96499630
How can Paxxia, not even in dragon form, be one of the strongest people in the world? Are evil eye and magician’s hand really that good?
Anonymous No.96499509 [Report] >>96499545
>>96499490
Training (or mentors) mean just as much, if not more, than Inborn gifts.
Anonymous No.96499518 [Report]
>>96498657
>>96499489
pretty good cyoa, the nsfw part is kind of weird tho because it's good if you go for the lower difficulties but at the higher crisis then it doesn't feel as if it fits well as you need to go full damage control with all your points
Anonymous No.96499545 [Report] >>96499677
>>96499509
Worship of a whole country also helps.
Anonymous No.96499556 [Report]
>>96499415
>no one can beat my ultra super special spell that takes like a full minute to cast successfully
Idiot
Anonymous No.96499562 [Report] >>96499579
>>96499490
>Are evil eye and magician’s hand really that good?
Where does it come from that Paxxia has that?
Anonymous No.96499570 [Report] >>96499594
>>96499398
Is that dragon guy actually unbeatable?
Anonymous No.96499579 [Report] >>96499612
>>96499562
It's all Erginter and Pantorai have to give, and the sibling perk ensures your siblings will also inherit everything from your parents. Surely Paxxia isn't worse than the siblings the perk can give you, right?
Anonymous No.96499594 [Report] >>96500402
>>96499570
Yes, only Bell, as the chosen one, can kill him. You and everyone else in the world exist to be saved by Bell, no matter how much stronger you're supposed to be.
Anonymous No.96499612 [Report] >>96499629
>>96499579
Do we know for sure that Erginter's special acquired gifts aren't inheritable?
And there's the spontaneously appearing gifts too, as described in Autoantescedence text, although I guess there's nothing to discuss there since it could be anything.
Anonymous No.96499620 [Report] >>96499800
What's the name of the CYOA where you die and your grizzled guardian angel admits he fucked up and is gonna reincarnate you with a new family you pick. Had a mother, and older and younger sister options. Was like 3 pages.
Anonymous No.96499629 [Report] >>96499954
>>96499612
Your mom is Erginter if you pick Pantorai
Anonymous No.96499630 [Report]
>>96499490
Martialchads are highly underrated.
Anonymous No.96499677 [Report] >>96499763
>>96499545
She doesn't have Icon of Icons.
Anonymous No.96499763 [Report]
>>96499677
Not the only method to use it, Pantorai had created a whole cult for himself to attain a worldly divinity and she inherited it.

Paxxia doesn't clarify her theological status due to political pressures, yet Dragon King Cult is still the state religion. She probably gets something out of it.
Anonymous No.96499800 [Report] >>96502295
>>96499620
I don't think it got a name.
https://imgchest.com/p/6eyrvvwe4pz
Anonymous No.96499863 [Report] >>96499950
>>96498657
>>96499235 (me)
Blue Mage, Artificer, Cornucopia, and Philosopher’s Stone are crazy together. Create and become anything you know. Absorb anything and then recreate it at will. Evolution and technological progress side by side. Post scarcity utopia. cyoa. These 4 are *the* ultimate combo. Sprinkle in some extras like Champion, improving the world, and Heavenhold, and you have a practically guaranteed victory.
Anonymous No.96499950 [Report] >>96500028
>>96499863
Well I'm glad you're confident youve got this. I was gonna take the nemesis bounty option so that another anon doing the cyoa is in the world (I don't know why it lists you as an enemy, it seems like you'd have a common goal in keeping the world not on fire).
I'm happy to let you take care of the threat if you're sure.
Anonymous No.96499954 [Report] >>96499983 >>96499987 >>96500139 >>96500278
>>96499629
Maybe stolen gifts can't be inherited but passed on and Paxxia has them all.
Anonymous No.96499983 [Report]
>>96499954
From Tenyota's description, stolen gifts can't be converted to disciplines.
Anonymous No.96499987 [Report]
>>96499954
Doubt it, Erginter died 111 years before Paxxia was born and the Exarchate's been holding onto her corpse the entire time.
Anonymous No.96500028 [Report] >>96500164
>>96499950
>I was gonna take the nemesis bounty option so that another anon doing the cyoa is in the world (I don't know why it lists you as an enemy, it seems like you'd have a common goal in keeping the world not on fire).
It's classic incongruous drawback nonsense unless you take
>1 of Loser's Prize, Winner's Prize
To unlock the hidden content that makes the chosen Nemesis to be:
>guaranteed to hold opposite moral values to you, so both of you will naturally end up hating each other.
In my case, this means the Nemesis is an insane genocidal psychopath.

>I'm happy to let you take care of the threat if you're sure.
I'd be happy to let you ride on my coattails, but it doesn't seem like an open MP cyoa by default. Although, I think everyone who picks the same Revisions can plausibility be in the same world.
Anonymous No.96500139 [Report]
>>96499954
Paxxia’s just skillmaxxed instead of coasting off of gifts.
Anonymous No.96500164 [Report]
>>96500028
I've gotta be honest anon, as a fellow blue mage I was just gonna follow behind you at an appropriate distance and eat your corpse/steal your philosophers stone if/when you died trying to solo whatever the plural of apocalypse is. So please don't do that, because if you do die then it's my job to fit this shit now.
Anonymous No.96500173 [Report]
>>96499415
You don’t actually need spirit fire you just need drain.
Anonymous No.96500257 [Report]
I hate danmachi so much its unreal
Anonymous No.96500274 [Report] >>96500281
What's with this myth that Paxxia is strong? If you take Apantoxia, you are the one doing the rape. Fate will make you do it. Your opinion means nothing.
Anonymous No.96500278 [Report] >>96500304 >>96500311
>>96499954
>Pointmaxxers cannot fathom the idea of someone who trained hard enough to beat them up
What will you tell [SRTR] when she asks how a girl with no gift managed to rape your Keter adoption, Misalliance, Burn the future monstrosity?
Anonymous No.96500281 [Report]
>>96500274
Explicitly told on the first Location page
Anonymous No.96500293 [Report] >>96500460 >>96500485
>>96498657
I think nothing is stopping you from learning the Archetypes and their abilities later beyond time and effort, which make Jack of All Trades even better, yes being 10% weaker and not starting with capstones skills is annoying but with 10 times learning speed you can learn the capstones with a few years and always knowing how to get better is invaluable.
Anonymous No.96500304 [Report]
>>96500278
"Please reset the world, I want to experience that rush again."
Anonymous No.96500311 [Report]
>>96500278
>Harder!
Anonymous No.96500393 [Report]
>>96499221
>Overproduction(Taken 4 Times)
I really hope for you this is additive and not multiplicative.
Anonymous No.96500402 [Report]
>>96499594
Isn't he revealed to be the son of Zeus or something? I don't see a problem with ignoring that drama if it's going to resolve itself.
Anonymous No.96500460 [Report]
>>96500293
Good point. You're probably right. The cyoa does mention at times that its possible to learn things or that there are abilities not covered by options here, like how you can still use attack magic or shield magic even if you've not taken black mage or white mage for example.
Plus if you're sane then you either took immortality or something that apes it like blue magic, you should have the time.
Anonymous No.96500485 [Report] >>96500581
>>96500293
10 times learning speed is frankly not very relevant in the face of Blue Mage and Artificer making better brains and computers.

The real consideration is in the 100 points and 2 Roots vs taking Will of the Omnissiah to marry flesh and (enchanted) machine, and I chose the latter.
Anonymous No.96500505 [Report] >>96500565 >>96500587 >>96500604 >>96500622
Blue (monster copying) mages are a very realistic type of mage. Why the hell woildnt an academic institution go out and try to find out what various creatures are capable of doing? For some reason people think wizards aren’t into bestiaries or taxidermy.
Anonymous No.96500565 [Report] >>96500587 >>96500716
>>96500505
Blue mages ought to be the mainstream or hunted to oblivion. Absorption powers are so strong that those who do not use it simply cannot compete if they're not born godlike (even then, they would often still benefit from absorption). Eat a black mage and now you're a black mage too!
Anonymous No.96500581 [Report] >>96500620 >>96500643
>>96500485
A tech Blue Mage with Artificer is the only archetypes combo I think is worth not taking Jack. The Blue tech capstone with II in the crafts is just that good to have right from the start.
Anonymous No.96500587 [Report]
>>96500565
>>96500505
Are you talking about a specific setting or? In an unspecific context, it may work out whichever way it is prescribed in any particular setting.
Anonymous No.96500604 [Report] >>96500690
>>96500505
>Realistic type of mage
Anonymous No.96500609 [Report] >>96500669
>>96498921
>Martial Paragon
>Easily the worst
That'd be enlightened Magus by far. Completely useless for the chaos of combat, unless protected by a reliable and trustworthy team that can extract you at a moments notice when you inevitability pass out.
Anonymous No.96500620 [Report]
>>96500581
I'm exaggerating a little, some of the ult combos are really good, Qliphoth, Inanis and the Dancer/Dreameater ones.
Anonymous No.96500622 [Report]
>>96500505
It's pretty cool. I think mages in the Witcher do that to an extent with Biomancy, which was fun in Sylen's Witcher cyoa.
There are also examples of ancient people reacting to bizarre real animals like elephants, which we could compare this (fantasy societies studying monsters) to. Though I doubt there is any evidence to find of Romans dissecting elephants or performing any other study of how they grow to be so large.
Plus, there are plenty of steps between knowing how something works and efficiently replicating it. It's quite common to have mages study and be very knowledgeable about monsters, although that does go for heroes as a whole.
Anonymous No.96500625 [Report] >>96500631
>>96499392
Anonymous No.96500631 [Report]
>>96500625
Anonymous No.96500643 [Report]
>>96500581
Ultimate Lifeform + Perpetual Motion Machine is arguably the most op in a bad way; it's completely antithetical to your goal in the cyoa of saving the world. Immediately right from the get go, you can usher in your own apocalypse by blasting everywhere with endless magic and snowball flesh.
Anonymous No.96500669 [Report] >>96500698
>>96500609
>unbreakable curse will prevent you from ever improving your condition
This really kills the Enlightened Magus.
Anonymous No.96500690 [Report] >>96500724
>>96500604
>he thinks magic doesn’t exist
You think it doesn’t because you aren’t satisfied with what real life has to offer lul
Anonymous No.96500698 [Report]
>>96500669
It only affect your starting body so if you really want that magic power and regen boost you can get around the body. The Backlash Resistance perk isn't optional though, and allow for truly ridiculous one use spell with the op magic reserve.
Anonymous No.96500716 [Report]
>>96500565
So should we ban summoners too then? Why be good at fire magic when you can summon a demon capable of throwing fire better than most fire wizards? Why bother dating when you can summon a succubus?

Ironically it was like this way in human history as well. Summoning magic was a bigger deal or feat. It was “high” magic.
Anonymous No.96500724 [Report] >>96500746 >>96500774
>>96500690
It's pathetic, all of these apprentices who've never so much as butchered a kobold. I'd bet they only sacrifice virgins to Moloch every other Sunday. What has /cyoag/ come to?
Anonymous No.96500746 [Report] >>96500766 >>96500893
>>96500724
where do I get a kobold?
Anonymous No.96500766 [Report]
>>96500746
They usually nest in homeless shelters. Just find the ones that are at least half-there mentally, it reduces the rate of false positives to about one in ten.
Anonymous No.96500774 [Report]
>>96500724
>Moloch
Looks like someone gets 0 bitches
I bet you haven't even been breeding your sister
Infact, I bet you aren't even a product of incest
Anonymous No.96500893 [Report]
>>96500746
If you can't find any, try substituting a kobold with a few chupacabra lizards.
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Anonymous No.96500912 [Report] >>96500922
>>96500901
Anonymous No.96500922 [Report] >>96500930
>>96500912
Anonymous No.96500930 [Report] >>96500938
>>96500922
Anonymous No.96500938 [Report] >>96500948
>>96500930
Anonymous No.96500948 [Report] >>96500956
>>96500938
Anonymous No.96500956 [Report]
>>96500948
Anonymous No.96500971 [Report] >>96500998
>>96498647
>Auburn starts you with a knowledge to build warmachina from scratch. This is already miles ahead of everyone in the setting, including Brastat. He will only start learning about warmachina after your meeting, finding out how to actually build them if the stars align favorably. By this time you can already innovate your way to Greater Warmachina yourself and keep going to Vtorusha's level.

>Benewhisper looks like shit at the first glance, just some generic spells. Among those spells is hidden an ability to create teleportation anchors in a setting where freeform teleportation is a unique ability of one companion and findinf even one portal is treated as a major boon. And you can share it. Whatever side you are on will get such a logistical advantage, it is not even funny.

I read the languages same as you, and i found nothing of this...
Anonymous No.96500998 [Report] >>96501011
>>96500971
nvm just read the insular bonus, always just skipped those lmao.
Anonymous No.96501011 [Report]
>>96500998
ORfags are NOT beating the perpetual readlet allegations.
Anonymous No.96501035 [Report] >>96501956
Outer Reincarnation posting is finally over?
Or are we just in the calm of the storm?
Anonymous No.96501045 [Report]
>>96498647
I'd be giving up 5 DP and 5 AP for these, never mind having to tutor all my mentors and companions in one of these (for a cost of about 8 DP.) That's kind of the biggest issue for a monolingual build, the way it pigeonholes you so hard on companions and mentors, think about what your build is going to look like if you can ONLY take people who speak Auburn, or Palatiner, or Benewhisper. I'm not going to scan the page right now but I remember from brainstorming a bilingual Old Northern build that it basically just resulted in a bunch of random shit shoved together without any cohesion or build theme outside of them all being from the Empire.
Anonymous No.96501149 [Report] >>96501192 >>96501383 >>96501394
Is the only way to romance Apantoxia if you're not into incest is to make Gunter take her as a companion and thereby doom him into getting raped? sorry bro, at least you'll be 16 when Paxxia does the deed.
Anonymous No.96501192 [Report]
>>96501149
Just start being into incest, you strange little man
Anonymous No.96501297 [Report]
>>96498647
>Palatiner
Demonhunt definitely study letters to make new magic; that's how Izbor is going to invent his signature trick, and the entire Archival branch of the demonhunt is about studying both sigils and Majin letters to make new magic (primarily defensive, but not exclusively). The reason they still cast from letters is that they have a massive library of unstudied letters (again, see Izbor), and that manual casting requires training each individual spell -- which takes time even if you have the appropriate gifts, and requires "mind-numbing repetition" for people who don't. If it's only practical to train every initiate in two spells, defensive sigils and majin letter extraction/use are a pretty strong pair.

>Benewhisper
The godscript language section specifies that spells you learn from insular bonuses are "merely uncommon". Which implies the teleportation sigil is something that you could reasonably learn by hunting it down in Archaia. That'll take time, obviously, but since monolingual Benewhisper severely limits your options for mentors and companions, I think it's probably more efficient to just start in Archaia and take Magical Traning and/or Theology in Youth if you want to pick that up.

Auburn is as good as you say tho; it's the only thing I'd actually consider going insular for, personally
Anonymous No.96501352 [Report] >>96501375 >>96501589
>Housewife companion for dirt cheap
>Comes with a house for free and will cook and clean for your party but can't fight for shit
>uses a companion slot
How expensive would a house have to be for you to consider taking this with one of your 3 companion slots?
Also when I say dirt cheap I mean less than 10% of what other companions cost.
Anonymous No.96501375 [Report]
>>96501352
I hope to acquire all of those things manually, so fairly expensive and the girl needs to be hot
Anonymous No.96501383 [Report]
>>96501149
Apantoxia will always exist. You don’t require using True Love to get with someone.
Anonymous No.96501394 [Report]
>>96501149
She'll still be born if you don't take her at all. Arrange things so that a political marriage is an expected plot beat for bot your plotlines and you're probably fine. Might I suggest positioning yourself as a drakkonid heir to Viceroy Sarmat while getting involved in DKMDR politics on the side of human liberation?
Anonymous No.96501419 [Report] >>96501463 >>96501491 >>96501590
Don’t let Erginter’s loser genes anywhere near yours.
Anonymous No.96501445 [Report] >>96501526 >>96501729 >>96501763
>Auburn

Lesser warmachinas aren't very good, unless you specifically try to go for something like Second Coming of the Second Seat, all as one - the Second one!
Detection of poison may be situationally better, and teleportation is actually good.
Anonymous No.96501463 [Report]
>>96501419
Fuck you, don't insult my mom like that. I don't want to hear that from a Majin loser whose great ancestor was killed by her.
Anonymous No.96501491 [Report] >>96501556 >>96501633 >>96501663
>>96501419
Trvth nuke. Omega and Darina have way better genes than those deficient true jobber wannabes. Not to mention they are plain better waifus to boot.
Anonymous No.96501526 [Report] >>96501729 >>96501763
>>96501445
Its foundational knowledge. Perfect if you're going the Warmachina route. Starting with the know how of crafting lesser Warmachina, then adding Brastat and Oko to the mix, you'll be able to make Greater Warmachina in no time.
Anonymous No.96501528 [Report]
>Take Starsight
>Take Evdokia
You now have easy access to a ridiculous number of spells, and any spells of people you kill. You also pretty much get the benefit of Starsight 2 once she gets someone with Starsight 2.
Anonymous No.96501556 [Report] >>96501619 >>96501622
>>96501491
Darina may have stellar genes but she’s barely a person.
Anonymous No.96501589 [Report]
>>96501352
It would have to be free, at the very least. Probably no death slot either.
A one (1) cost companion (Mihrdat) can make you king of your own territory. Yeah it's a shithole but still.
Anonymous No.96501590 [Report]
>>96501419
She removes the remaining Outsiders and then self-disposes just one year before the next one. No way is that a coincidence. She's a tool, her whole life was just to clean up the plot lines gods were bored with.
Anonymous No.96501618 [Report] >>96502090
>eugenicstards arguing over the best breeding mate
The blessed machine has no such limitations. Zhuchka will spread the one true religion.
Anonymous No.96501619 [Report]
>>96501556
>Not taking Dream Passage to hang out with her in the infinite nightmare so you can fight by her side and get to know her as a person.
skill issue
Anonymous No.96501622 [Report]
>>96501556
>He doesn't take Dream Passage to keep his true love company in her nightmare-dungeon
Anonymous No.96501630 [Report] >>96501675 >>96501782
What happens if you take Darina to Vtorusha?
Is she strong enough?
Anonymous No.96501633 [Report] >>96501671
>>96501491
Could Darina even survive pregnancy if the effects carry over to the nightmare dungeon?
Anonymous No.96501635 [Report]
Eugenics is a right wing bigoted science. There’s no proof it exists or works either.
Anonymous No.96501649 [Report] >>96501678 >>96501724
Question for the Mechbros: If you create your own Warmachina, what gift/letter will you base its signature ability on? and what would it be like?
Anonymous No.96501658 [Report]
>cycle of reincarnation means that you WILL be reborn as the lowest of low beggars eventually
I'm killing every single monarch and implementing communism immediately.
Anonymous No.96501662 [Report] >>96501676 >>96501701
>Charlie can read this
So in the update, Charlie knows YMRD is on the Moon?
Anonymous No.96501663 [Report] >>96501683
>>96501491
Where have you find Darina's genes?
Anonymous No.96501671 [Report] >>96501698
>>96501633
Darina has no death slot, meaning she can't get hit with a Nash. A better question would be if the baby can survive it and what complications such nightmarish birth cause. He'll have something dream disease like Gisella.
Anonymous No.96501675 [Report]
>>96501630
Nothing? Her nightmare-dungeon (probably Aat's sister Bal) was bound to her by the Elder Gods, she's not a generic dream specialist. There's no guarantee she can even meaningfully interact with the Vtorusha nightmare as a nightmare instead of as a cursed magical phenomenon
Anonymous No.96501676 [Report] >>96501684
>>96501662
She didn’t bother reading the gifts pages because she assumed she knew all the gifts you could get
Anonymous No.96501678 [Report] >>96501720
>>96501649
Buki
Anonymous No.96501683 [Report]
>>96501663
We don't what gifts specifically, just that they're super fucking op from her's and Bernhard's entries.
Anonymous No.96501684 [Report] >>96501704
>>96501676
She's just like us!
Anonymous No.96501698 [Report] >>96501715
>>96501671
Having no death slot doesn’t mean you’re immortal, like an undead companion can just get killed normally. I meant could Darina handle fighting the dungeon 24/7 like she normally does if she had a pregnant body
Anonymous No.96501701 [Report]
>>96501662
The JNPL mother section makes it clear that JNPL is capable of slipping in hints for you that Charli either can't or won't read. ("This voice is ignored, is it not?")
Anonymous No.96501704 [Report]
>>96501684
Charlie is a certified readlet confirmed.
Anonymous No.96501715 [Report]
>>96501698
>could Darina handle fighting the dungeon 24/7 like she normally does if she had a pregnant body
I mean she's been doing it for centuries, having a baby bump probably won't change much. Plus you can mitigate the risk by letting her off her duties for the 9 months while you and your friends take care of the nightmare for her.
Anonymous No.96501720 [Report] >>96501733 >>96501735
>>96501678
>Buki
Isn't that the same one Vtorusha had for her mech?
Anonymous No.96501724 [Report]
>>96501649
I think the ones with the most potential are Ouk, Ot, and Psi.

Ouk means learning. Maybe you can make an adaptive mech that can change on the fly.
Ot means from/away/distance/limit. Maybe you can use that concept to make a "limitless" mech.
Psi has an unknown meaning, but given the conflict with pokoy and the idea of soul strengthening (and killing JNPL), I imagine it has something to do with ascension.
Anonymous No.96501729 [Report] >>96501763
>>96501445
>>96501526
If you start with it, take enough mental gifts and have parents that can help with it you're unironically starting off in a better position then either Vtorusha or Brasted.
Anonymous No.96501733 [Report]
>>96501720
I think she used Multiocular O, no?
Isn't that why it's not a part of the godscript anymore?
Anonymous No.96501735 [Report]
>>96501720
Never mind, I just remembered that she ripped off the multioccular letter from the God-Script for her mech.
Anonymous No.96501763 [Report] >>96501818
>>96501445
>>96501526
>>96501729
I'm working on a build right now with Oko Shtorma + Iotated Greater Yus, and Brastat + Ouk.

The auburn insular bonus is somewhat tempting, but it's quite expensive. I don't know how hard it would be to figure out lesser warmachina anyways.
Anonymous No.96501782 [Report]
>>96501630
God-Empress of Mankind on the Old Throne, keeping the whole world's nightmare at bay.
Anonymous No.96501805 [Report] >>96501848
>>96498647
While I will never post it I made a build for a cursed weapon maker but taking triple Grim Outlook and the Salian insular bomus for cursed weapon making.
Why fight Charlie myself when I can equip Gunter with the Godslayer knife that will invariably kill him after fulfilling the deed.
Anonymous No.96501818 [Report] >>96501888 >>96501894 >>96501904 >>96501921
>>96501763
When I read it, my implicit guideline for a good faith reading was:
>"Everman is the default language, so when in doubt about what a bonus does, compare it to the Everman bonuses. It should have similar power level."

And the Everman insular bonus is:
>You are given minor assistance in learning any and all other Human languages originating on the Doria continent.
which is crap.
So I figured the warmachina insular bonus from Auburn can't be anything remarkable either.
Anonymous No.96501848 [Report]
>>96501805
what's your plan for when gunter, having no other challenges left in this world, decides to fight the elder gods?
Anonymous No.96501888 [Report] >>96501908 >>96501950
>>96501818
None of the other insular bonuses are very good either, honestly. This is all stuff that you could learn rather quickly if you wanted to.
Anonymous No.96501894 [Report]
>>96501818
Wasn't creating new warmachina (even lesser ones) something that no-one has been able to do for nearly a thousand years?
Anonymous No.96501900 [Report] >>96502161
The way One’s starting languages are written is concealing revelatory setting information. I know it.
Anonymous No.96501904 [Report]
>>96501818
>he has go beyond point scaling
>he option scaled, disregarding descriptions and points both
Amazing.
Anonymous No.96501908 [Report] >>96502000 >>96502053
>>96501888
What would be a good way to buff Insular bonuses?
Anonymous No.96501921 [Report]
>>96501818
Everman insular is weaker than Auburn insular because it costs 1 point to tutor a mentor in Everman and 2 points to tutor a mentor/companion in Auburn. You can easily end up spending 5 points in tutoring as an Auburn insular compared to Everman insular.

Also, not every option in the CYOA is equal in power. This is the case throughout the game elsewhere; there's no reason to assume it's the case here.

Nobody has figured out how to build lesser warmachina in the 840 year since Vtorusha's death. Starting with that knowledge will not be worthless
Anonymous No.96501950 [Report]
>>96501888
Perhaps it is easy to learn but we don't know that. I agree that the opportunity cost of losing points over explicit bonuses isn't at all attractive, but there's a difference between saying "you will learn those spells easily when you turn 12 as long as you study under a mage" or "it may take you several years of focusing only on it to reach the same level as the insular bonuses", after all, studying magic has always been a decades long affair in fantasy. If it's as easy as using Starsight to get them from a library then they are worthless. But perhaps your build has a super secret plan of creating a floating meteor island before they turn 10 do they need that Drakonian bonus.
Anonymous No.96501955 [Report] >>96501961 >>96501972
Do you believe that a companion who only speaks one rare expensive language is intended to have a higher value than a companion of the same cost who speaks multiple common languages?
Anonymous No.96501956 [Report]
>>96501035
Might just be Monday, but probably everyone that frequents /cyoag/ has made a build at this point.
Anonymous No.96501961 [Report]
>>96501955
Yes, I would assume so.
Anonymous No.96501967 [Report]
>>96497551
>the first image shows two people falling
>multiple people
This is PROOF that Outer Tide is CANON.
Anonymous No.96501968 [Report] >>96506407
>>96498591
Yup. Also another trick I figured out, which isn't quite as cheesy, is that New and Old costs a "relatively small amount of Vril" so the Vril cost of making an item's tech work only costs a fraction of what it's actual value is. However, Charity's Vril gain is almost equivalent to the amount of actual value the item has. This difference means you can actually make a net profit in Vril by giving out Tech for free, or simply just repairing old pre-collapse tech into a usable state. Which in turn means it's viable to quickly by just repairing old pre-collapse infastructure and equipment to arm the forces of man. And like, how much later are we talking? Years? Decades? Centuries?
Anonymous No.96501971 [Report] >>96502028
Pointscaling is dumb. All the best companions cost 1 point.
Anonymous No.96501972 [Report] >>96501999 >>96502143
>>96501955
If you are talking about High Elven, it is meant to be a language with unique magic attached to it, that's why it's so expensive.
I would argue that in narrative world, all languages will be useful to understand their interpretations of the God-Script and the rules of the world but that is speculation outside the bounds of the cyoa.
Anonymous No.96501999 [Report]
>>96501972
Yeah, if point scaling were legit, it wouldn't cost 1 companion slot and 1 destiny point to kill off Charlie's right-hand.
Anonymous No.96502000 [Report]
>>96501908
I think insular bonuses on a 1-point language have to be around as good as a 2-point mentor before I'd seriously consider them. Insular bonuses are similar to untimeskipped mentors that don't use up a mentor slot but also don't give a companion, so I'm mentally comparing them to that. I want about 4 points worth of value, since I expect to spend about that much tutoring my mentors/companions. I figure the not using a slot is canceled out by not getting an ally, so just the untimeskipped knowledge feels like it should be worth about the cost of an untimeskip + the mentor, which leads me to the 2 point mentorship number.

I sanity checked this by looking at 2 point mentors and asking myself if I'd be interested in their knowledge as an insular bonus, and they felt strong enough to consider but not mandatory. Which is probably where it should be.
Anonymous No.96502028 [Report] >>96502058 >>96502114
>>96501971
Blazkho, Gunter and Dobrava are merely utility companions. Sure, they are useful but you have to consider their roles in the story. Blazkho will probably just be done with his tutoring by the end of your encounters and he has no Inborn gifts to take them to the next level as you could possibly do, Gunter's party is his own, you would have to personally keep him around after all the encounters end alongside his companions if they even fit together after that, and Dobrava loses her hacks after you meet her so afterwards you just have an autistic Mathematician by your side.
They are great of course but you have to think in the long term as well after the system stops holding your hand where they become more limited.
Anonymous No.96502053 [Report]
>>96501908
Probably just get all that language bonuses rather than just the Insular or perhaps make the short description sound more impressive that just a few local spells. Everman for example could be a great boost in learning any other language or Old Northerner to teach you high level and obscure spells.
Anonymous No.96502058 [Report]
>>96502028
You forgot Baf and Apantoxia.
Anonymous No.96502090 [Report] >>96502108 >>96502109 >>96502132 >>96502135
>>96501618
I wonder if the cult Zhuchka founds can actually empower you or not.
Anonymous No.96502095 [Report] >>96502127 >>96502148 >>96502155 >>96502233 >>96502238
So each Greater Warmachina we know about has an equivalent gift. Ordo-Dorian is Touch of Embedded Rust, Neo-Aeolian is Bestial Strength, Tempo-Archaean is Dream Passage, and Sacro-Ionian is either Magician's Hand or Blazing Seal. Vtorusha's is definitely Multioccular, however her's has nothing to do with having many eyes and we don't know what's its original meaning was, its probably something to do with time. Oko is the only one I'm still confused about. I'm excited to imagine the possibilities of a some Mech/Gift combinations, like one around Icon of Icons or All-Glimpse.
Anonymous No.96502108 [Report]
>>96502090
Icon of Icons + Pukluxun's mentor to cultivate True Dragon Solipsism.
Anonymous No.96502109 [Report]
>>96502090
It's a mage cult, so it probably can, unless you tell her to make sure it doesn't.
Anonymous No.96502114 [Report]
>>96502028
Gunter [Zelo] + Omega [Ot] + Evdokia [Greater Yus] is a friendship-guided fate missile launched directly at Charlie's house. No matter how they resolve their fates, it will be a serious blow, and YMRD is personally invested in making Omega's end count for something.
Anonymous No.96502127 [Report]
>>96502095
The real one to aim for is a Daemonhost mecha, that would probably let you produce mech's like vtorusha's which contain letters of the god-script.
Anonymous No.96502132 [Report] >>96502152 >>96502157
>>96502090
>Zhuchka
It's a shame she's such a humanaboo
Anonymous No.96502135 [Report]
>>96502090
It will probably require a lot of blood sacrifices if you go the mage-cult route. Otherwise they are simply fanatics unless you find some other way to channel your divinity. They exist according to Devout Signature but you would have to find them.
Anonymous No.96502143 [Report] >>96502179 >>96502185 >>96502186 >>96502346
>>96501972
>it is meant to be a language with unique magic attached to it
Too bad the magic is specifically nerfed and crap if:
1) The Firstborn Empire no longer exists
2) You aren't a member of the royal family
3) You aren't an Eldar
4) You aren't an elf at all
You can satisfy the later two points, but you're still vastly crippled by the first two, which pretty much ensures that you're never in a situation where studying elf magic is preferable to any other magic. Outside of that the only thing High Elven does is mentor/companion access, but the only one of those that's really worth the price of entry is Rhucuphre, but she's also available from Late Thulean which is a much more reasonable language.
Anonymous No.96502148 [Report]
>>96502095
>we don't know what's its original meaning was, its probably something to do with time.
I'm thinking it has to do with seeing multiple futures. It would fit perfectly with its current use and Vtorusha's predicament.
Anonymous No.96502152 [Report]
>>96502132
That's the best part about her thoughbeit. BeastBabes LOVE ManMeat.
Anonymous No.96502155 [Report]
>>96502095
Multiocular O is probably about observing the world around and deciding a path. It is mentioned that dream time travel is one of it's many features and observing different worlds and following the best possible outcome would go in line with it's eye related powers.
Anonymous No.96502157 [Report]
>>96502132
Skill issue, just be an honest and humble yet heroic northerner facing impossible odds for the sake of faith and friendship
Anonymous No.96502161 [Report]
>>96501900
There were other conlang'ed languages/structures of magic that One knew?
Anonymous No.96502177 [Report] >>96502214
I wonder if there are any multiocular O majin still running around.
Anonymous No.96502179 [Report] >>96502254
>>96502143
>Eirina not worth the price of entry
Anonymous No.96502185 [Report] >>96502254
>>96502143
Eirina and Ciliren are both very strong
Anonymous No.96502186 [Report] >>96502254 >>96502270
>>96502143
>only one of those that's really worth the price of entry is Rhucuphre,
Eirina Numerology is the best mathemagic counter in the text, Cirillen has the full power of Eldar magic at her command and it allowed her to kill a thousand year old undead dragon. And Su'uq is very cute and free otherwise.
I would say that the language is worth it's high cost, people simply dislike playing elves or elves supporters.
Anonymous No.96502193 [Report] >>96502206 >>96502266
>The first empire was founded like 8500 years ago
zamn, I wonder what happened between then and One's birth
Anonymous No.96502206 [Report] >>96502257 >>96502266
>>96502193
A lot of human slavery
Anonymous No.96502214 [Report] >>96502246 >>96502249
>>96502177
War of Heaven and Earth concluded before Xian's time and Multiocular O was already stolen, so no. But there could be Iotated Yat Majin.
Anonymous No.96502233 [Report]
>>96502095
>Oko is the only one I'm still confused about

Eye of the Storm, and Savmak and Keter have a lesser version. Of course, this is just my headcanon.
Anonymous No.96502238 [Report]
>>96502095
Shtorma's probably an auto'd Eye for Shadows-type gift that used mist and smoke, maybe from Tsoshu or Poluden, probably tied to the Phoenixians?
Anonymous No.96502246 [Report] >>96502330
>>96502214
Hmm, I wonder what would happen if you tried to make a majin with multiocular O anyways?
Esu was made with Tsifra, not god script, so it might be possible in theory.
Anonymous No.96502249 [Report]
>>96502214
If Iotated Yat is death by assisted suicide, does Iotated Yat majin just make you want to kill yourself?

Could that mean there are Iotated Yat majin in the thread with us right now?
Anonymous No.96502254 [Report]
>>96502179
>>96502185
>>96502186
Tutor Everman.
Anonymous No.96502257 [Report]
>>96502206
the mage-cult/TRVE DRAGONS were justified in doing what needed to be done to stop the knife-ear menace
Anonymous No.96502266 [Report]
>>96502193
>>96502206
The Tumen (the reds or blacks or both we don't know) had a lot of 'fun' during that age apparently.
Anonymous No.96502270 [Report] >>96502352
>>96502186
>Su'uq
She's Spriggan, anon.
Anonymous No.96502279 [Report] >>96502301
So I finally came up with a passable Autoantecedenced Grim Outlook, I'll leave it to you anons to judge if this is worthy of a 14 ancestry points or not.
>Grim Outlook ×3: You don't have to cry to curse objects anymore, merely focused intent will suffice. This gift now overrides enchanted and inherently magical items, but not already cursed ones. You still can only attune an object to three letters, however the fewer the attunements the more potent the curse and proportionally the more powerful the gift infused within is. Three letters will allow you to infuse three x1 gifts with their standard effectiveness. Two letters will allow you to infuse two x2 gifts or a supercharged equivalent if the gift can't be picked twice. Attuning an object to a single letter will make the infused gift comparatively similar to a x3 gift. Keep in mind this x3 boost only applies to the original function of the gift, it won't give it any additional functions it didn't already possess like Autoantecedence does.
Before anyone start bitching about the last part being to "op", remember that the curse grows stronger with the gift infused. A single-lettered cursed item made with this gift can kill someone in a matter of days if not hours. I'm only confident in handling them because I have two curse experts (Dryndedh and Krugopryad) to teach me how.
Anonymous No.96502295 [Report]
>>96499800
Oh, thanks for the link!
Anonymous No.96502301 [Report]
>>96502279
Seems reasonably balanced, Icon of Icons can do effectively the same thing. Remember you can't use gifts that you don't have and it's pretty much Icon of Icons but worse.
Anonymous No.96502330 [Report]
>>96502246
Probably nothing since its impossible. Numerology majin however? that's where the real money at.
Anonymous No.96502339 [Report] >>96502367 >>96502413 >>96502419 >>96502427 >>96502917
What are the advanteges of starting on Mamet instead of Doria? It is a backwater, there are less people to fight Ecumene, the fight itself will start earlier and most mentors/encounters are tied more closely to Doria.

On the other hand, dragging one or two interesting people to tutor you out of Mamet is easy, it is not like there is something important that would crumble without them there.
Anonymous No.96502346 [Report]
>>96502143
Practicing the idea of bending around things, with the reversion of God being Law being the idea practiced in High Elven, is probably crucial to do something akin to Charlotte's Enthramithraic? The Drakolich's mentorship, especially now that he was trying to do something with Drakonid, and the related shenanigans involving whatever language was used in the True Dragons' ascension hiding out in Benewhisper, something something when magic is speech language is very important something something.
Anonymous No.96502352 [Report]
>>96502270
She's not exclusively HIgh Elven but my wife was meant to serve the high society you know.
Anonymous No.96502367 [Report] >>96502441
>>96502339
True dragon fans home things to explore there. Both Kingdom of Kingdoms quests are about true dragon solipsism.
Anonymous No.96502371 [Report] >>96502415 >>96502418 >>96502424 >>96502435 >>96502437 >>96502446 >>96502960 >>96503288
>Autoantecedence
>reasonably balanced

I've yet to see any single effect even remotely comparable to Icon of Icons or All-Glimpse despite 8 point minimum price.
Anonymous No.96502413 [Report]
>>96502339
Stygia has a lot of interesting plotlines to get involved with, between Dei's quest to revive #3 and the Dark Elf/Nightmare connection. It's particularly good if you want to play the YMRD-y game of creating problems for Charlie and letting her play whack-a-mole with them while you work on the next problem, since she's very much not focused on the region and there's a large buffer of Uruks, Naga, and Bestfolk between her forces and you. Respawning point is also a very strong encounter.

Archaia is entirely for mage cult/dragon cult stuff. I'm not a fan of either so I'm not gonna argue for it, but that's why you'd go there.
Anonymous No.96502415 [Report]
>>96502371
You must be forgetting about what Sonya does.
Anonymous No.96502418 [Report]
>>96502371
There are a lot which I would deem to be far better off the bat/situationally which makes sense given they're based on limbs which tend to be overall more gimmicky as abilities.
Anonymous No.96502419 [Report] >>96502572
>>96502339
>What are the advanteges of starting on Mamet instead of Doria?
You get a free Untimeskip and Dice Fudge. That's it.
Anonymous No.96502424 [Report] >>96502484
>>96502371
Speaking of, as good time as any to change my Autoantecendence for Dream passage.

Dream Passage x3 - an ability to physically enter even immaterial dreams and a growing control over the dream the longer I interact with it.

Because, apparently, without it Dream Passage doesn't actually grant you a passage into dreams and I am a readlet. At least this way it is distinct from Esu's skillset.
Anonymous No.96502427 [Report]
>>96502339
I like Mesomaerica more than Europe.
Anonymous No.96502435 [Report]
>>96502371
For multiplayer anons its probably due to balance reasons. The rest is because of the nebulous nature of Autoantecedence itself.
Anonymous No.96502437 [Report] >>96502526 >>96502960
>>96502371
Everything that would actually live up to either steers closer to [SRTR]. We know they're supposed to be very insane considering that they're apparently comparable to the warmachinas, and the feats there are AoE Touch of Rust, infinitely escalating Bestial Strength, Meaning-not-required Magician's Hand, literally-still-fighting-Bal-to-this-day Dream Passage, and Old Throne's whole bullshit.
Anonymous No.96502441 [Report]
>>96502367
Jdan got us covered in that regard, spending the whole youth there just for two quests is pointless.
Anonymous No.96502446 [Report]
>>96502371
Aaaaahhh, don’t make me doubt my Autoantecedence effect again.
Anonymous No.96502468 [Report] >>96502490
>>96497636
I'll bite. Going full retard for this one...

> Realm
Frontier

> Attributes
Fit 4, Agi 3, Per 2, Int 0, Char 2

> Body
Female

> Side
Commonwealth

> Race
Hybrid (Fit +1, Per +1)

> Origin
Adventurer

> Class
Warbeast

> Skills
Bloodlust, Body, Dual Wielding, Martial Prowess, Samodoskonalenie, Stealth, Survival, Thievery, Weaponmaster

> Questline
Exploration -> Conquest -> Homesteading

> Exploration
I've read this one before and remembered the Intel outcome. Only one useful for me here.

> Conquest
Got only 5 conquest points due to triggering the Orc Incursion and -1 resource points because of Bloodlust in Frontline Leadership.
Also got a Chinaz'den Sabiha as War Lover. Nice to have a lesbian half-drake on sandwoman experience before pigs showed up.

> Orc Incursion
And War Lover died gloriously. Orcs got me another -1 resource points.

> Homesteading
Deserter outcome allows me to replay the Conquest.

> Conquest
This time I've reached 7 conquest points since Incursion haven't triggered, -1 resource points again though.

> Homesteading
Welp, this character is not good for this quest and with -3 resource points from war I'm poor af.
Still can take alternative option of Marriage and get myself Caltonixia as goblin waifu/emergency rations.

> Endings
The Large Scale, Reign of the Free
Welp, one realm defended, gonna live until 100 years old foraging in local forests and hunting small game with Calt. Not good, not terrible I say.
Anonymous No.96502484 [Report] >>96502507
>>96502424
>apparently, without it Dream Passage doesn't actually grant you a passage into dreams
What are you talking about? it defines does grant entry into dreams, that is literally what the ability is all about. I think you mean the nightmare.
Anonymous No.96502490 [Report] >>96502506 >>96502509 >>96502561
>>96502468
>Half Tarrasque
Uh? Who had sex with a Tarrasque?
Anonymous No.96502506 [Report]
>>96502490
We really need to stop those fucking bards...
Anonymous No.96502507 [Report] >>96502928
>>96502484
I am talking about some resent answers from tank, that led me to reread the entry. It grants you unopposed entry into any materialised dream, but if you, for example, wanted to join Darina in her eternal dungeon fight, you need to sleep next to her and use your lucid dreaming for this.
Anonymous No.96502509 [Report]
>>96502490
As for my character: I assumed she was magically spliced to be this way and haven't been made naturally.

As for the original pic: I don't know. Maybe some very brave bard.
Anonymous No.96502526 [Report]
>>96502437
>Old Throne's whole bullshit.
>"When the letters are written, they exist by themselves as a fact, regardless of whether they're read by anyone. But it is when they are read will they gain Meaning."
>"The world is a word. And that word is unknowable."
>Multiocular O's closest associated meaning is many-eyed seraphim.
Is the trick that Vtorusha used really just "I have the power to have multiple perspectives."? Multiocular O is supposed to have the same connotations that Eirina's 666, Rhucuphre and Shaytan's name have, being a fallen down angel that once was part of a greater whole. Vtorusha stole the True Dragon's future by forever breaking the self hiding in Solipsim into multiple selves? She was banking on cheating Multiocular O's death-by-multiple-valid-yet-contradicting-truths by just being human, but dealing Multiocular O against the True Dragons also means dealing Multiocular O against herself, as she is technically part of the True Dragons too. The Old Throne is like that because the eyes that you're not using has to go somewhere.
Anonymous No.96502529 [Report] >>96502545 >>96502615 >>96502623 >>96502984
>Iakowe father
>True Love Omega
How pissed will Charlotte be when she finds out what you did?
Anonymous No.96502545 [Report]
>>96502529
True Love Nilmatrix too and you have a good chance of Charlie melting her Pillar all by herself.
Anonymous No.96502561 [Report]
>>96502490
Sorry.
Anonymous No.96502569 [Report] >>96502577
>>96498657
I like a lot of the general ideas in this cyoa, but many of them come off half-baked. Instead of explaining the unique systems or mechanics, it instead fills that space with DT-lite options. A problem I’ve seen with many NSFW cyoas. The companions also feel oddly anemic, though I can’t identify a concrete reason as to why, especially since many cyoas suffer in that regard.
Anonymous No.96502572 [Report] >>96502589
>>96502419
Starting as a child of Simka is one of the few chances to acquire a second Zhivete, hard to even rate how good it is.
Anonymous No.96502577 [Report]
>>96502569
>DT-lite
?
Anonymous No.96502589 [Report] >>96502602 >>96502726
>>96502572
Remember that outside of special cases like malice (which guarantees target's death before adulthood), giving someone a death letter doesn't mean they will die sooner than they would've otherwise. It seems to me a lot of Zhivete fans think this causes a later death when in most cases you really shouldn't assume that
Anonymous No.96502602 [Report] >>96502614 >>96503001
>>96502589
I don't understand what is so great about Zhivete. Just turn yourself undead lmao. What are you taking it for?
Anonymous No.96502612 [Report]
siblings with JNPL inherit death of the author
Anonymous No.96502614 [Report] >>96502645
>>96502602
Hello, Savmak.
Anonymous No.96502615 [Report] >>96502984
>>96502529
I don't know why the incest element is needed. Just the fact that you're plowing her daughter will already get her seething. Adding incest will just make her smugly declare that she was right to judge you as a disgusting loser. Not to mention the revelation will probably cause your poor pops to die from a heart attack.
Anonymous No.96502623 [Report] >>96502984
>>96502529
True Love on all three.
Anonymous No.96502631 [Report] >>96502682
>>96497593
>Gender
Male (6%STR, 3%WIS)
>Height
Tall (12%STR, -3%DEX)
>Build
Bearmode (18%STR, 6%CON, -9%DEX)
>STATS
15 DEX to start
10 everything else
>SPECIAL STATS
VIT
LUK
MND
>Interfaces
Casses
Quests
Inventory
>Skills
Basic Sword Wielding
Basic Perseverance
Basic Berserk
Basic Charisma
>Starting Gear
Sword (+1STR)
Light Chestplate (+2DEX, 2 ARMOR)
Cloak (+2SPI RES, 2 ARMOR)
>Special Talent
Race Evolution
>Race
Natural Armor [Thick Skin/Fat] (10%CON, -10%DEX)
Unnatural Skin Color (+2%HLT, RES)
Unnatural Mouth (+20%STR, +2%VIT)

>Stat Totals (Base + Percentage)
STR 11 + 20%
DEX 17 - 10%
CON 10 + 10%
HLT 10 + 2%
INT 10
WIS 10 + 3%

VIT 10 + 2%
RES 10 + 2%
LUK 10
MND 10
SPI 10 + 2%

I want to become an Orc. But before that, I'll be a hero... killing monsters and saving babes. Hell yeah.
Anonymous No.96502645 [Report] >>96502689
>>96502614
When you're a sword there's not much to do in your day except shitpost on 4chan.
Anonymous No.96502647 [Report]
ineligibility
Anonymous No.96502682 [Report] >>96503413
>>96502631
>HP conditionals
imagine needing to have half your body shredded to bits before your buffs start kicking in. you want to gamble with your life like that?
Anonymous No.96502689 [Report] >>96502727
>>96502645
Send Yphont's lewds.
Anonymous No.96502726 [Report]
>>96502589
Zhivete resolves their fate, bringing them back to an unfilled death slot. B and C slot characters tend to have stories which do not put them regularly in danger of dying violently, so the expected outcome is that they die of old age or live for a long time before chance gets them, depending on their race.
Anonymous No.96502727 [Report] >>96502740 >>96502745
>>96502689
Anonymous No.96502740 [Report]
>>96502727
Anon this is a blue board
Anonymous No.96502745 [Report] >>96502778
>>96502727
Dark Elves would definitely get weird about body parts from having no erogenous zones.
Anonymous No.96502778 [Report] >>96502872
>>96502745
Maybe they've used magic for sexual stuff as well.
Anonymous No.96502872 [Report]
>>96502778
This would explain some of their reputation. While other races have normal attitude about sex, dark elves needed pleasure magic and other such things to be availible to everyone, even commonplace or the populace wouldn't have an incentive to breed at all.
Anonymous No.96502917 [Report] >>96503016
>>96502339
You're SUPPOSED to be doing double time in Doria and Mamet causing trouble for the Ecumene as an adult, they have skyship contact. Hell if you're in the Empire you're at least a little encouraged to start shit in Tsoshu as well.
Anonymous No.96502928 [Report]
>>96502507
>you need to sleep next to her
Lewd.
Anonymous No.96502952 [Report] >>96502964
Is it safe to trust an elf?
Anonymous No.96502960 [Report] >>96503007
>>96502371
>>96502437
I'll try to come up with a few autoantecedence effects matching this power level, taking into account point cost.

>Oculus of Human Goodness (11)
You repel the very concept of harm. Blades turn away from you, bullets veer off course, and even magic fizzles or misses. This ability no longer requires visual contact to take effect, instead occurring in a small radius around your body.
However, what would have harmed you does not disappear, it just avoids you. If you aren't careful, attacks meant for you could hit your allies. This is not invincibility either, as it is still subject to meaning devaluation just like any gift.

>Fighter's Eye (11)
Normally, this gift predicts the potential movements of other objects. With autoantecedence, it allows you to predict the potential movements of your own body, depending on your intent. If you wanted to swing your sword at an enemy, you would see several optimal lines of attack. If you wanted to quickly scale a cliff, you would visualize exactly where you should place your hands and feet. Additionally, the restriction on line of sight is further loosened, and the visualization becomes more like a sixth sense. You could use this gift even with your eyes closed, though it is still tied to them.
Your body is capable of doing everything that you see, but seeing and doing are two separate things.

>Panarmament (14)
This gift now allows you to create a phantom version any handheld tool that you can imagine. You can even freely alter its shape or form while you hold it. However, to create something that you have not personally held, you will need to understand the Meaning of it. For mundane items, that might just be what it does, how it works, and how to use it. Magical items, of course, are more complicated.
Anonymous No.96502964 [Report] >>96503013
>>96502952
No
They are after your precious seed
Anonymous No.96502984 [Report] >>96503277 >>96503327 >>96503331
>>96502529
>>96502615
>>96502623
You guys are forgetting to have Zwa as a mom so YOU are descended from Charlotte to, you're her great great great grandchild, having sex with her daughter, who is your half-sister.
Anonymous No.96503001 [Report]
>>96502602
That's Zemlaya. Zhivete guarantees you survive your death.
Anonymous No.96503007 [Report] >>96503043 >>96503217
>>96502960
Any ideas for a good starsight x3?
Anonymous No.96503013 [Report]
>>96502964
I would give it to Yphont freely.
Anonymous No.96503016 [Report] >>96503033
>>96502917
Gramrouth's fleet is going to be destroyed by sky pirates sometime during youd childhood, causing contact between the continents to "dwindle once again". It's not as simple as hiring a commercial vessel if you're trying to get to or from Mamet in adulthood; you'll need to put in effort or have one of the travel support companions to do it.
Anonymous No.96503022 [Report] >>96503052
Reminder that not dying does not mean that fate will be kind to you.

Charlie used Zhivete on both of her parents
Anonymous No.96503033 [Report]
>>96503016
Dwindle is not stop. For pirates to exist, commercial shipping must exist also.
>You'll have to put in effort
If you're an Outsider and can't fight off, or hell, WELCOME a fight with, pirates, then you should turn in your seat.
Anonymous No.96503043 [Report]
>>96503007
My thought was reading entire books by simply being in their presence and aware that they exist.
Anonymous No.96503052 [Report] >>96503123
>>96503022
Really chose the wrong Patron
Anonymous No.96503063 [Report] >>96503104 >>96503146
>JNPL used to be a mentor option
no fair
Anonymous No.96503070 [Report] >>96503091 >>96503109 >>96503210 >>96503335
>>96497551
Paxtinger, Dragon God
Male, Buki
Patron God: 0^0
Perks: Outer Tide, Sibing (Paxxia (Greater Yus)), Burn the Future, Extra Companion x7, Untimeskip
Mother: Erginter
Father: Pantorai
Race: Drakonid
Languages: Drakonian, Simplified Duergar, Banewhisper, Palatiner
Location: DKMDR, Mountains of Autumm
Gifts: Royal Claim, Magicians Hand 1, Evil Eye 3, Noble Inclination, Intelligence, Martial Instinct, Caster Intuition, Spiritual Feel, Memory Retention, Cognitive Speed, Multiocular O, Boiling Blood, Thoroughbreeding, Ethereal Beauty, Wereplague 2, Agelessness, Dragon Transformation, Fighter's eye 2, Dream Passage 1, Inner Vision 1, Autoantecedence, Seraphic Wings, Meandering Thoughs, Flowing Gait, Bitter Sickness, Godhand 1
Mentors x 2: Upunth (Dobro, Upward Spiral), Pukluxun (Untimeskip, Sh’ta, On Sick Leave),
Companions x 10: Araith (Izhe Zhivete, Dread the Wyrm), Apantoxia (Iotated Az, A Daring Rescue), Duphroru from Agartha (Tutored Banewhisper, Qoppa, Interested and Dissolving Parties), Polkan (Yery, Breaking and Entering), Empty x6 (All six Uruk Encounters for a total of 13 AP and 19 DP)
Youth: Magical Training, Power Testing, Theology, Martial Training
Quest: Ameno
Autoantecedence effect: Evil Eye will now apply a curse on those being seen, damaging not only their body but their Meaning, causing their Inborn gifts and spirits to be damaged as I look at them, possibly permanently. The curse will be lingering, and I can activate it at will on a set number of people at a time.
Anonymous No.96503091 [Report]
>>96503070
I figured what was the point of using Zhuchka when there’s a whole country already worshipping your bloodline. Just fix the problems from the Dragon’s King Most Divine Realm, bring all the soft Warlords to heel and return to conquering, starting from Tsoshu’s other side to challenge Charlie while going to Mamet to get rid of her bases there. I will continue Pantorai experiments to get True Dragons Back and the ways to Mamet thanks to Polkan will be the key to getting all the materials needed.
But the main trick of the build is to retrieve mom’s corpse. Duphroru will betray the Exarchate, letting me conquer it whole or at the very least get Chervonolin easily alongside access to her corpse. From there I will try to tie my Meaning to her to get part of her Powers. And from that make a challenge to Charlie. I will also try to mend the relation between Apantoxia and Paxxia to get a united dragon front.
If this were a solo build I would use Malice on several word leaders to make my conquest of the Doria continent easier, but it would be too limiting for a Tide.
Anonymous No.96503104 [Report] >>96503146
>>96503063
>11th had YMRD as a COMPANION that's bullshit
Anonymous No.96503109 [Report] >>96503142
>>96503070
This build is missing out on a lot with Icon of Icons for very little reason.
Anonymous No.96503123 [Report] >>96503300
>>96503052
What was SRTR supposed to do with the human family in the country where the only humans were slaves. Like I'm not here to defend the sadist but I don't think it's fair to blame her for this one.
Anonymous No.96503142 [Report] >>96503206
>>96503109
Icon of Icons implies having friends that trust you. Being at the top of a religion that sacrifices people for power and considers everyone who's not a dragon cattle or experiment material doesn't lean itself well to that idea.
Plus it's really expensive so it was either that or the Evil Eye.
Anonymous No.96503146 [Report] >>96503163 >>96503189
>>96503063
>>96503104
>11th had [JNPL] as a MOTHER! That's insane!
Anonymous No.96503163 [Report]
>>96503146
>12th lived in a world with grass and seasons and food other than nutrient gruel! Crazy!
Anonymous No.96503177 [Report] >>96503787 >>96503824 >>96503925
>>96498657
Any disadvantage of taking Bound Together with Rariel being bound to you? It seems that anything that can kill her is probably gonna end the world anyways
Anonymous No.96503189 [Report]
>>96503146
>[JNPL] as a mother
>Godhand
What the fuck did they do?
Anonymous No.96503205 [Report] >>96503326
>>96498657
Population: Custom seems to be unselectable regardless of what you do, it lists no Required trait either.
Anonymous No.96503206 [Report]
>>96503142
Icon of Icons can also draw power from people putting their trust in you (specifically noting faceless masses) and multiplies other inborn gifts effectiveness, so unless you have a really unique idea for the autoantecedence then I would say to swap them out since IoI would just be better overall.
Anonymous No.96503210 [Report]
>>96503070
Dragon Pretender 2: Now On Outsider Juice
Anonymous No.96503216 [Report]
>>96498657
Once more I want to voice how much I fucking DESPISE nested tabs in these interactives.
Anonymous No.96503217 [Report]
>>96503007
Starsight's core idea is about discerning Meaning. Its first stage is about understanding obvious Meaning. Its second stage is about understanding gaps in obvious Meaning. Its theoretical third stage should be an alteration or addition to that. Orkhalorkhan's Starsight x 3 is taking Du'um's whole "every life is just a story" understanding into "Discern the story of a person." as its Starsight, primarily just a Cha buff and additional augment to his Ielsiazeh-Role Magic and Dreamforging stuff.
Anonymous No.96503277 [Report] >>96503296
>>96502984
Maybe Charlotte is right about you guys.
Anonymous No.96503288 [Report] >>96503503 >>96503669 >>96505551
>>96502371
Ranking the Autoantecedence abilities in 3 categories. Within each category, they are not ranked compared to each other—I just put them in chronological order.

>All-Glimpse/Icon of Icons Level:
Wanderer above the Sea of Fog (Magician's Hand): Aside from the obvious quantitative benefits, it also removes opportunity cost, so situations like "I can only save ally A, save ally B, or kill enemy A" become simple "save both and kill". Benefits greatly from Icon of Icons.
Demonic Nightmare Maker (Dream Passage): Ultimate ability for dungeons.
Zyneheart (God Hand): Icon of Icons masquerading as God Hand.
Liadan - Unbegotten Dreamer (Dream Passage): I assume it does more or less the same thing as Demonic Nightmare Maker's.
Neophyte Sevastian (Inner Vision): Massive potential. Play the soul searching gacha on peasants to find long lost knowledge!
Aphainoumenos, Last Demon Prince (Crooked Caress): Erginter+.
Thaumaradrak (Deathless Grasp): Copying targets without restrictions on who is absurd. A B S U R D. By far the most powerful ability here and in the cyoa except for deus ex machina. Probably illegal.
Godslayer Punchardt (Bleeding Heart Gesture): "Cannot be blocked by magic." A B S U R D. Probably illegal. I think no one cared because the build itself is trash and would never be able to use it well.

>Good but not worth the points:
Father of the Paracausal Arts (Spirit Tap), Ҁ Ф ʌ (Spirit Tap), Rap God (Oculus of Human Goodness), Aera (Eye for Shadows), The Curse Slinger (Grim Outlook), Fu'uq, the Pixie Bomber (Bleeding Heart Gesture), Paxtinger, Dragon God (Evil Eye)

Most are just decent buffs to preexisting abilities without really changing their function. Very conservative.

>Trash:
Moonman (Inner Eye): Should have just taken All-Glimpse instead.
Rozir, the Vagabond King of Hexen (Inner Vision): Should have just taken more mental gifts and Kneeling Twilight instead.
Illior of the Doria (Flowing Gait): Copium flight.
Anonymous No.96503296 [Report]
>>96503277
Even the Charlotte incest combo isn't as high on the incest power scale as the basic bitch Pantorai Father True Love Apantoxia combo, anon.
Anonymous No.96503300 [Report] >>96503314 >>96503322
>>96503123
Could have moved the dragon, could have changed the order of events, could have made one of the elven slavers sympathetic. Charlotte was clearly a nice girl going into this, her choices are softer than even the nicest Anon and the outcome is entirely intentional nurture.
Don't get me wrong, she still needs to be put down like a rabid dog.
Anonymous No.96503314 [Report] >>96503338
>>96503300
Suffering builds character.
Anonymous No.96503322 [Report] >>96503338 >>96503340
>>96503300
>Softer than even the nicest Anon
>Last True Dragon Yrde aka Dragon Sage
Anonymous No.96503326 [Report]
>>96503205
You need to take both population options on its left. It's retarded, I know.
Anonymous No.96503327 [Report] >>96503331 >>96503332
>>96502984
Reminder that Iakowe is Omega's father. So you can easily fuck your sister Omega.
Anonymous No.96503331 [Report] >>96503344
>>96503327
>>96502984
>who is your half-sister
Anonymous No.96503332 [Report] >>96503344
>>96503327
anon you are retarded
Anonymous No.96503335 [Report] >>96503680
>>96503070
>>96497557
Welcome to Zelo then, Paxtinger. There is a lovely bunch there, including an Outsider on the throne of the Empire and a Demon Lord commanding the Daemonhunt. I am sure this will all end in peace and cooperation. Who am I kidding, it will be a bloodbath. Good luck!

Also, you've forgotten to pick your letter. It may become relevant.

In other news, Pixie Bomber joined Zyneheart on Izhe, helping out yet another hermit.
Anonymous No.96503338 [Report]
>>96503314
Thus, wrong patron. Should have picked YMRD like a smart person. Or JNPL to keep the suffering in the melodramatic. SRTR is for real men.

>>96503322
Wanting to learn from a dragon skeleton seems like more bright eyed optimism to me. Otherwise I don't follow your point.
Anonymous No.96503340 [Report] >>96503351
>>96503322
He wasn't that bad. Probably.
Anonymous No.96503344 [Report]
>>96503331
>>96503332
I am retarded
Anonymous No.96503351 [Report]
>>96503340
He was objectively better than any other True Dragon at least, which is why he was able to avoid death for so long. The compulsion to be a bastard wasn't so strong that he went out and started shit for no reason, like the others.
Anonymous No.96503357 [Report] >>96503371 >>96503376 >>96503377 >>96503380 >>96503399
Everyone here true loving their sister pax or their daughter ap, but nobody is turning their brother dirk into a qt majin girl and true loving her
Anonymous No.96503366 [Report]
The discussion has fallen so far already. Move on.
Anonymous No.96503371 [Report] >>96503379
>>96503357
That is because it is YOU who must make the plunge
None can take this from you
Anonymous No.96503374 [Report] >>96503680
I tried to make Pantorai - Apantoxia - True Love build, but it sucks from power gaming perspective. Even Keter trick can't save it. Do we have good build like that?
Anonymous No.96503376 [Report] >>96503382 >>96503386
>>96503357
> turning their brother dirk into a qt majin girl
What are you referring to? I don't think I saw anything that flips sex OR turns people into maijin
Anonymous No.96503377 [Report]
>>96503357
Dirk doesn't deserve to get fucked with by another Outsider.
Anonymous No.96503379 [Report]
>>96503371
sesbian lex tho
Anonymous No.96503380 [Report] >>96503399
>>96503357
You know, reincarnation might be one of the easiest ways to fix whatever fried his brain. Thanks for the idea!

*goes off to breed a cute all-knowing demon waifu*
Anonymous No.96503382 [Report] >>96503390
>>96503376
Respawning Point, encounter.
Anonymous No.96503386 [Report]
>>96503376
Respawning point lets you turn a character of your choice into a majin of a template you design. Template includes sex.
Anonymous No.96503389 [Report] >>96503396 >>96503402 >>96503558 >>96503842
Your companions and mentors are your true and valiant friends joining you in a fight to save the world from horrible tyranny.
You're not really vile enough to look at them like they're sex dolls... Right?
Anonymous No.96503390 [Report]
>>96503382
Ahh I didn't think of encounters.
Anonymous No.96503396 [Report]
>>96503389
>You're not really vile enough to look at them like they're sex dolls... Right?
Of course not, I look at them like wives.
Anonymous No.96503399 [Report]
>>96503357
>>96503380
Don't fuck up picking the correct Letter of the Damned.
Anonymous No.96503402 [Report] >>96503419 >>96503455 >>96503462
>>96503389
I like my companions and mentors like I like my firewood.
Anonymous No.96503413 [Report]
>>96502682
A hero always gets brought low before coming back and taking out the bad guy. This is basic stuff.
Anonymous No.96503419 [Report]
>>96503402
Dry and you don't need to walk through the snow to get to it?
Anonymous No.96503455 [Report]
>>96503402
Chopped to pieces and burning?
Anonymous No.96503462 [Report]
>>96503402
I put my wood with them?
Anonymous No.96503472 [Report] >>96503487 >>96503489 >>96503503 >>96503520
>>96497551
>Want to take Autoantecedence
>It's going to cost more than taking both Icon of Icons and All-Glimpse
>Probably going to be weaker too
I hate this so much
Anonymous No.96503487 [Report] >>96503510
>>96503472
Then make it on par with them. If you can't think of a suitable ability, the problem is not with Autoantecedence.
Anonymous No.96503489 [Report]
>>96503472
Consider it a challenge run
Anonymous No.96503503 [Report]
>>96503472
Make your Autoantecedence ability according to >>96503288.
Anonymous No.96503510 [Report] >>96503545 >>96503554
>>96503487
Autoantecedence should be stronger than Icon of Icons or All-Glimpse by a factor of however much it cost to get 2 of whatever you're applying it to.
Anonymous No.96503520 [Report]
>>96503472
You are the one in control of how strong your special ability is.
Anonymous No.96503534 [Report] >>96503552
>>96499115
Hey, his is nice
Anonymous No.96503545 [Report] >>96503551
>>96503510
No, the part where you choose how to apply it has to be priced into it. You can't similarly choose about icon of icons
Anonymous No.96503551 [Report]
>>96503545
So only a little stronger, then.
Anonymous No.96503552 [Report] >>96503566
>>96503534
>his
Anonymous No.96503554 [Report] >>96503624
>>96503510
Point scaling isn't canon. The greater warmachina abilities are the benchmark and they are already quite epic.
Anonymous No.96503558 [Report]
>>96503389
Of course not, I see them as toys
Anonymous No.96503566 [Report] >>96503570
>>96503552
The author was probably a he so it still works.
Anonymous No.96503570 [Report] >>96503576
>>96503566
>probably
110%
Anonymous No.96503576 [Report]
>>96503570
He has one dick, and a 1/10 length second dick?
Anonymous No.96503578 [Report] >>96503599 >>96503606 >>96503613 >>96503616
>>96497551
My build would be much stronger if I went Majin but I feel like non-Daemonhost Majin are sub-human, anyone know what I mean?
Anonymous No.96503581 [Report]
>>96498657
Good to see this thing is getting some builds. Unfortunately I dislike interactives.
Anonymous No.96503591 [Report]
>Making a Dream Passage x3 Autoantecedence ability similar to Caeda's daydreaming but with endless epiphanies instead of just one.
Is this allowed?
Anonymous No.96503594 [Report] >>96503631 >>96503640
>>96499115
>Isekai overlord that doesn't force you to be a necromancer or demon
FINALLY
Anonymous No.96503596 [Report] >>96503608 >>96503626 >>96503655
Natalja is an underrated mentor. Dobrova learned from her, so it stands to reason that if you learn from her and master the skill, you can become 12th's Dobrova
Anonymous No.96503599 [Report]
>>96503578
>laughs in Ota, Esu and Seo
Anonymous No.96503606 [Report] >>96503649
>>96503578
Hello Dei!
Anonymous No.96503608 [Report] >>96503632
>>96503596
>12th's Dobrova
She had what, 10 years? You have 100. Aim higher.
Anonymous No.96503613 [Report]
>>96503578
Probably not in the same way as you

But Maijin are an aesthetic.disturbance. They are the infinitely flexible race, in appearance and traits. Does anything besides Maijin even need to exist, to cover the whole spectrum? This cheapens the more grounded and definitive traits of the other races. If I was a God in charge of the OR world I might want to get rid of them for that aesthetic reason.
Anonymous No.96503616 [Report]
>>96503578
Yes, that's the main appeal of playing a Majin (Daemonhost, of course)
Anonymous No.96503624 [Report]
>>96503554
You're agreeing with me, right?
Anonymous No.96503626 [Report]
>>96503596
Dobrava is smarter than all of us.
Anonymous No.96503631 [Report] >>96503694
>>96503594
You're not an overlord in this, its just a name. If you try to be a tyrant then other awakened people will take you down.
Anonymous No.96503632 [Report] >>96503639 >>96503651
>>96503608
5 point Dobrova variant who combines the Jdan effects and the Dobrova effects so you auto-win all your encounters it is
Anonymous No.96503639 [Report]
>>96503632
I hope she sees this bro
Anonymous No.96503640 [Report]
>>96503594
>force
Anonymous No.96503641 [Report] >>96503650 >>96503659
For me, OR is first and foremost a fantasy of how to be smart. My entire life I have wondered what people of average or greater intelligence live like, and now I can be one of them, with the mind gifts.
Anonymous No.96503643 [Report] >>96503648 >>96503700 >>96503718 >>96503750 >>96503861
I couldn’t be a good demon lord. I would feel responsible for all my majin and agonize over their well-being.
Anonymous No.96503648 [Report]
>>96503643
I would force mine to fight in gladitorial arenas and act out my favorite plays.
Anonymous No.96503649 [Report]
>>96503606
Wonder how Dei would react to the Empire, since her entire philosophy is that Majin aren't people and Demon Princesses should be subservient to Demon Lords. The Empire's ruler is a Demon Lord but also a human (And thus in her philosophy a real person, unlike herself.)
Anonymous No.96503650 [Report] >>96503652
>>96503641
You could become smarter if you embraced the habits of mathematics
Anonymous No.96503651 [Report]
>>96503632
>"Huh, this old geezer kinda overshadows me"
>slaps Tverdo
Anonymous No.96503652 [Report] >>96503690
>>96503650
I will definitely learn mathematics and all the other difficult things!
Anonymous No.96503655 [Report] >>96503675
>>96503596
We really need a version of this meme with Yrde and Ciliren.
Anonymous No.96503659 [Report]
>>96503641
Have you tried building healthy habits away from addictive dopamine loops like imageboards? Sleeping well? Eating healthy? Challenging your cognitive faculties with tried and true mind expanders like literature, sudoku, hot chip, and lie?
Anonymous No.96503669 [Report] >>96503695
>>96503288
>Ҁ Ф ʌ
> Ability to turn racial gifts into 5 cost equivalents or higher
> Even gave myself the ability to make it permanent
> Still not worth the points
How good do you think all-glimpse is?
Anonymous No.96503675 [Report] >>96503729
>>96503655
It wouldn’t work. Yrde was a True Jobber, Ciliren was a top mage. No one would bet on Yrde to win.
Anonymous No.96503680 [Report]
>>96503335
The letter is Buki, it says it at the start
>>96503374
I could have done it by taking away Duphroru, it would give me enough points to True Love both. The trick was finding ways to get points and Simplified Duergar and Banewhisper were the easiest choices. Drakonoid and being born in the DKMDR also gives you 4 AP which is almost enough to counteract Pantorai if you don't use Adoption.
Anonymous No.96503690 [Report] >>96503819
>>96503652
The habits, not the numbers are what you need
A difference in those habits are the reason physicists are wise and capable and psychologists (Who consider themselves an equal branch of science) are useless retards
One, like a mathematician, refuses to presume, and as of such what little he knows is true, and can be built upon endlessly into various useful things
The other fills his thoughts with presumptions and bullshit to fill the gaps and has a system that both takes years to learn and is rarely better (Occasionally worse) then common intuition
Anonymous No.96503694 [Report] >>96503704
>>96503631
There aren't any other awakened, though. Just uncorrupted humans and the few supernatural entities weren't either corrupted or evil from the start.
Anonymous No.96503695 [Report] >>96503713
>>96503669
>The core of this build, an auto antecedence which loses much but gains far more. I can no longer change the race of a character to another magical one but instead optimizes them closer towards the mystical ideal of their race (The strength of this is effected by my understanding thereof), for example a Drakonid becomes a greater and more terrifying beast when transformed and can maintain dragon form more easily or an elf gains everlasting. In Majin this allows them to become a greater conduit for their letter of the god script. This is impermanent as usual.
>Ability to turn racial gifts into 5 cost equivalents or higher
Unmentioned.
>gave myself the ability to make it permanent
Directly contradicting what is written.
Anonymous No.96503700 [Report]
>>96503643
Just as Xian/Aat intended.
Anonymous No.96503704 [Report]
>>96503694
>There aren't any other awakened, though.
Readlet...
Anonymous No.96503713 [Report]
>>96503695
The ability to make it permanent is further down in the build and not present in the auto list. Everlasting was given as an example which is a 5 point equivalent by my reckoning.
Anonymous No.96503718 [Report] >>96503749
>>96503643
Train with Arsak. He'll teach you how to care about your soldiers while sending them to die anyways.
Anonymous No.96503729 [Report] >>96503740 >>96503748 >>96503786
>>96503675
>Yrde was a True Jobber

He fought against his nature and achieved at least some degree of success. He also was able to kill Seo.
Anonymous No.96503740 [Report]
>>96503729
Charlotte wouldn't have been able to falsely ascend without his help; lich got what he had coming
Anonymous No.96503748 [Report] >>96503757 >>96503765
>>96503729
He wasn't the one to kill Seo, Diarsented was, the one who raped her.
Anonymous No.96503749 [Report] >>96503770
>>96503718
Reks is also about learning when a bad situation should be abandoned for the good of your troups.
Anonymous No.96503750 [Report]
>>96503643
Remember that once you randomly make them, they are full beings with entire lives ahead of them. You need to clothe them, feed them and give them somewhere to sleep and live.
I hope you don't just make them and then let them wander around as if they were Feral Majin like Dei did to poor Aes.
Anonymous No.96503757 [Report] >>96503771
>>96503748
Check the timeline, it was Yrde who killed her. The other one either raped her at some point before or they had some weird hatesex just before she killed him and then died.
Anonymous No.96503765 [Report]
>>96503748
Anonymous No.96503770 [Report] >>96503936
>>96503749
The trick is mixing both if the with Maou. Ultimate guerilla warfare and suicide missions. You can probably also make terrorist Glagoli Majin to bomb Ecumene cities.
Anonymous No.96503771 [Report]
>>96503757
It might be a glitch of Seo's reanimation power, in which case it was technically mpreg, proving that Erginter was a real woman.
Anonymous No.96503786 [Report]
>>96503729
I don't buy it.
More likely, Seo killed so many True Dragons that she hit her internal kill limit, fell over, and then Yrde claimed victory for it.
Anonymous No.96503787 [Report] >>96503797
>>96503177
>Bound Together
Where is it?
Anonymous No.96503797 [Report]
>>96503787
Arrival -> Summoned -> Bound Together
Anonymous No.96503812 [Report]
Has anyone taken Pantorai as their father and True Love'd Seo?
Anonymous No.96503819 [Report] >>96503893
>>96503690
>physicists
>like a mathematician, refuses to presume
That's definitely not right. Physicists presume things all the time. Later, with time, they get verified or dismissed, and much more rigorously than in psychology, sure, but it's nothing like systematic derivation from axioms.

https://www.weizmann.ac.il/mcb/alon/sites/mcb.UriAlon/files/uploads/medawar.pdf
is a great article which relates to that (in my memory; it's been a while since I actually read it), by a biologist (Peter Medawar, with Nobel prize for discovery of acquired immunological tolerance) rather than physicist, but I suspect a physicist would agree.
Anonymous No.96503824 [Report] >>96503832
>>96503177
She's annoying and will make you her bitch.
Anonymous No.96503832 [Report]
>>96503824
There's nothing indicating that she'll "make you be her bitch", only that she'll help you only if you do act like her bitch
Anonymous No.96503842 [Report] >>96503854
>>96503389
>Your companions and mentors are your true and valiant friends joining you in a fight to save the world from horrible tyranny.
Correct. Together we shall hunt down degenerate anons not doing their part, we will not sit by while they inflict their sick fantasies out on the innocent people of this world.
Anonymous No.96503854 [Report] >>96503863 >>96503909
>>96503842
>Together we shall hunt down degenerate anons not doing their part
But if you are busy hunting anons instead of doing your part, then you should also hunt down yourselves?
Anonymous No.96503861 [Report] >>96503887
>>96503643
Majin don't start out as people. They become people after a lifetime of learning and experience.
So it's okay to treat fresh Majin as disposable fodder.
Anonymous No.96503863 [Report]
>>96503854
It's okay, my build hunts him for slacking so he doesn't have to do it himself
Anonymous No.96503887 [Report] >>96503951
>>96503861
Are you ok with using human toddlers as fodder?
Anonymous No.96503893 [Report] >>96503921
>>96503819
Anon I am literally speaking to a retard, I am intentionally simplifying
That why I spoke about clear examples like physics which is known to be good and psy which is known to be conflicting
Assume the best in others

Also, In this case, I was talking about people pulling shit out of their ass, not setting testable hypothesis's. Freud talking about fear of rats being a repressed desire for anal sex was most certainly not tested or meaningful in any way
Anonymous No.96503909 [Report] >>96504036
>>96503854
I'm doing my part by policing/tard wrangling anons who think they can just take advantage of everyone else.
Being an Outsider is a serious responsibility. If you're too selfish to help the world, then you are a threat to the world.
Anonymous No.96503921 [Report]
>>96503893
I am with you in calling psychology a social science pretending to be a hard science (and further in calling social sciences bullshit systems with barely any descriptive value or falsifiable validity) but relating Freud to psychology is silly. Insulting to psychology because Freud's source was the crackpipe and insulting to Freud because psychology is completely devoid of vision.
NTA
Anonymous No.96503925 [Report] >>96503993
>>96503177
the strongest option to take bound together for sure, but:
>she is not actually invincible, you are still permanently binding your life to another's so it is another weakspot for you
>she is bound to make a lot of enemies considering her personality
>it's only 15 fucking shards, just get 'destined death'(sacrifice) 'overpowered reincarnation'(sacrifice), 'one chance' (perk) and 'emergence'(binding) then you get 35 shards for free
Anonymous No.96503936 [Report]
>>96503770
For the full generalmaxxing experience, make sure to have Pansagor as a father (adopted if necessary), and Mocnaethm Mihrdat, and Oko as companions
Anonymous No.96503951 [Report] >>96503955 >>96503962 >>96503964
>>96503887
Toddlers aren't capable of killing several men.
Anonymous No.96503955 [Report] >>96503982
>>96503951
Jobberspeak
Anonymous No.96503962 [Report] >>96503982
>>96503951
They are with a crew-served weapon.
Anonymous No.96503964 [Report] >>96503982 >>96504029
>>96503951
They can if you make magical bombs from them and use them as bait.
Anonymous No.96503982 [Report]
>>96503955
>>96503962
>>96503964
In other news, after being banned from being closer than 100 meters to schools /cyoag/ is now banned from the vicinity of any kindergarten as well. Good job guys.
Anonymous No.96503993 [Report] >>96504035 >>96504039
>>96503925
>'destined death'(sacrifice) 'overpowered reincarnation'(sacrifice), 'one chance' (perk)
One Chance makes it so time rewinds though, i wouldn't count it as checking destined death nor overpowered reincarnation because those things didn't actually happened, you went back in time so they never did.
Anonymous No.96504029 [Report]
>>96503964
>Make your suicide bomber Majin yell '[JNPL] akbar' just before they blow up
>Only Charlie herself will understand the meaning
That would be a pretty fun way to annoy her.
Anonymous No.96504035 [Report] >>96504044
>>96503993
If he's already taking Rariel, then he could have her revive him instead of taking one chance.
Anonymous No.96504036 [Report] >>96504057
>>96503909
>pic
Is that an AI thing? Is it from a cyoa also?

>If you're too selfish to help the world, then you are a threat to the world.
Nigga you are destroying latent resources that could be instrumentalized against Charlie (think of them in same terms as half-broken Warmachina), and you skimp from the fight with Charlie yourself - you realize that from the perspective of Outsiders who actually are doing their part in the fight, you come across as an agent of Charlie? And to prevent you from aiding Charlie further, they may kill you once they get the chance (with good justification)? Motivation isn't everything, actions matter.
Anonymous No.96504039 [Report] >>96504059
>>96503993
>One Chance makes it so time rewinds though, i wouldn't count it as checking destined death nor overpowered reincarnation because those things didn't actually happened
except they did happen, and that's why you lose your one chance perk. If it somehow conceptually invalidated your death then technically you never died so you never used one chance making it an infinite perk.
The only conditions for the drawbacks is that you die at least once and it shouldn't care about your method of revival
Anonymous No.96504044 [Report]
>>96504035
His argument was specifically for not taking her though.
But what you say is otherwise correct, you just have to endure a humiliation ritual
Anonymous No.96504057 [Report]
>>96504036
>Is that an AI thing? Is it from a cyoa also?
It's from an old CYOA: https://imgchest.com/index.php/p/m9yxgdjrk4q
Anonymous No.96504059 [Report]
>>96504039
>turning back time means the things still happened
Think about it how you want, that's not the only way to interpret it, if you go back in time to rpevent something for happening, that never happened.
That's kinda plain abuse because it only gives you advatages too, the other method at least only "converts" threads to shards, even if you do still gain a companion from it.
Anonymous No.96504064 [Report] >>96504066 >>96504069 >>96504074
How come Maijin don't have a language, each Maijin contact has some language that just relates to their location?
Anonymous No.96504066 [Report]
>>96504064
Only real people have their own languages.
Anonymous No.96504068 [Report] >>96504163 >>96504263
>>96497551
Build: Lord of Machina
Name: Vaditi Sacro-Ionian
Male
Patron God: JNPL
Perks: True Love[Ciliren of the Orthrung], Outer Tide
Mother: Maiosara Yesod
Father: Vadim Sacro-Ionian
Race: Muddish
Languages: Auburn, quietened-Everman, Salian, Palatiner
Location: Old Throne, Arcadia
Gifts: Royal Claim, Warmachina Mounting, Noble Inclination, Intelligence, Misalliance-Maiosara Yesod[Overflowing Pupilx2, Grim Outlook, Multiocular O], Martial Instinct, Cognitive Speed, Memory Retention, Attentiveness, Spiritual Feel, Autoantecedence, Panarmamentx3:Allows to directly steal then imbue or merge the meaning of anything touched into anything else they touch, Icon of Icons, Thoroughbreeding
Mentors: The Keter, Zu'us
Companions: Ciliren of the Orthrung[Tutored: Auburn}, Geminara of the Doria[Tutored: Auburn], Brastat Syn Rarruta[Tutored: Auburn]
Encounters: A Bridge, A Toll, A Troll, Getaway Warmachina Rider[Brastat], One Against All[Ciliren], In My Machine Spirit[Keter], Lost in Lost City[Zu'us-Martial Instinct turns into Wisdom]
Deaths: Vaditi Sacro-Ionian[Vedi], Maiosara Yesod[Tsy], Vadim Sacro-Ionian[Lesser Yus], The Keter[Greater Yus], Yu'us[Iotated Lesser Yus], Geminara of the Doria[Pokoy, Yee], Ciliren of the Orthrung[Yer',Zhivete], Brastat Syn Rarruta[R'tsy, Zemlya]
Youth: Natural Philosophy, Uplifting, Power Testing, Treasure Hunting
Quest: E Nomine
If Brastat can figure out how to make Greater Warmachina with a worse starting point, then there should be nothing stopping me from doing the same. I'm probably going to update this, mostly posting it now so I know if I need to nerf my autoanctecedence.
Anonymous No.96504069 [Report]
>>96504064
Their own language is godscript and everyone else can cope
Anonymous No.96504074 [Report]
>>96504064
Neither Aat nor Xian felt the need to give them their own language and because Majin were never unified as a race after their deaths, there was nobody with the authority to make one. In Dis it seems like they took to Everman because of its universality on Doria, and Fay because of the Drow post-Underground at least partially being sworn to serve Demon Lords. So with that logic Fay is probably going to be the most frequent language spoken by non-feral Majin just because of the Drow.
Anonymous No.96504163 [Report] >>96504192 >>96504193 >>96504201
>>96504068
>>96499355
>Maiosara exploit
That is one answer I guess, but what did it cost you narratively?
Anonymous No.96504192 [Report]
>>96504163
I'm not that guy, and it cost me a believable parent pairing.
Anonymous No.96504193 [Report] >>96504208 >>96504209
>>96504163
What is the Maiosara exploit?
Anonymous No.96504201 [Report]
>>96504163
>muh narrative cost
Get a life.
Anonymous No.96504208 [Report]
>>96504193
There's no exploit. That guy is just retarded.
Anonymous No.96504209 [Report] >>96504215
>>96504193
It's not an exploit, she's simply the most point efficient character to Misalliance since she gives 14 points back and she's even free if you use adoption. That's why so many of the builds have her randomly as a parent even when they don't interact at all with Malkuth.
Anonymous No.96504215 [Report] >>96504225 >>96504232 >>96504264 >>96504283
>>96504209
Any of them that forsake their mother with shit like Tsy are subhuman.
Anonymous No.96504225 [Report]
>>96504215
That's not your mother. She's a point dispenser.
Anonymous No.96504232 [Report] >>96504251 >>96504254 >>96504280 >>96504506
>>96504215
She's also a teen, not even an "early grown up" in the same way as Simka, like she hasn't even gone through her coming of age arc when she gives birth to you. Maiosara is the most unfairly treated option in the multiverse.
Fucking hold on, he paired her up with the noble of a hostile country. The fucking freak.
Anonymous No.96504251 [Report]
>>96504232
>he paired her up with the noble of a hostile country
Political marriage to ease tensions. Smart man.
Anonymous No.96504254 [Report]
>>96504232
S-Suffering builds character?
Anonymous No.96504263 [Report] >>96504325
>>96504068
>Picking Keter and Zu'us over 'One', Jisilbert, Mlada, or any of the Caster parents.
Atleast pick the guy who was taught Vtorusha and probably was there when she forged the machines Anon. Brastat's like that because he understands the transmuted Earthlogic from doing Ecumen items.
Anonymous No.96504264 [Report]
>>96504215
I ran out of survivable/non-painful deaths, and she seemed like she'd like the chance to leave more than everyone else. Otherwise, I'd swap her death with Zu'us'
Anonymous No.96504280 [Report] >>96504309
>>96504232
I would've taken Maiosara if I wanted to make a Martial build just because I think she needs a loving family, but sadly I am a Caster at heart so if I was going to go Malkuth I'd have to do Unnr.
Anonymous No.96504282 [Report] >>96504353
Maiosara deserves a happy family life.
Anonymous No.96504283 [Report] >>96504292
>>96504215
> with shit like Tsy
But Tsy is one of the gentlest?
Anonymous No.96504292 [Report] >>96504320
>>96504283
The point of Tsy is that you disappear from the face of the earth. It could be anything, but no matter what, you have to disappear. The most common death that should be associated with Tsy is just disappearing in a forest or a mountain and nobody ever finding your corpse.
Anonymous No.96504309 [Report]
>>96504280
For me it's the opposite, I had a great idea for double Overflowing Pupil but she simply didn't work as a good parent for the concept and otherwise the combo is way too expensive on a budget.
Anonymous No.96504320 [Report] >>96504333 >>96504337
>>96504292
It literally says that they're "merely legally dead". They'll die for real eventually, of course, but your headcanon is directly contradicted by the text.
Anonymous No.96504325 [Report] >>96504336
>>96504263
>Over 'One'
I wanted the Old Throne encounters, and using adoption when the parent isn't Stoyan or Lu'ut tier always makes me feel like a piece of shit.
Anonymous No.96504333 [Report] >>96504344
>>96504320
When you look at a missing persons report from 20 years ago, do you think they're still alive?
Anonymous No.96504336 [Report] >>96504358
>>96504325
>Lu'ut
God I wish that turd didn't have Memory Retention.
Anonymous No.96504337 [Report] >>96504370
>>96504320
>They'll die for real eventually, of course, but your headcanon is directly contradicted by the text.
Imagine applying that to a mom.
Imagine applying that to the member of a royal family.
There's nothing good here. Tsy is for letting extremely long-lived mentors pass their wisdom to future generations.
Anonymous No.96504344 [Report] >>96504386
>>96504333
If the gods tell me directly that someone is still alive, yes.
Anonymous No.96504353 [Report] >>96504385 >>96504406 >>96504487
>>96504282
Why? Because you pity her? Pity her for what? She's a lucky shmuck who won the gift lottery but is too stupid to use them. She became the heir apparent of a kingdom by chance but is incapable of making use of the opportunity.

The most useful she will be in her entire life is giving the 11th Outsider 14 points and immediately scurry away to let a more competent adoptive parent take charge.
Anonymous No.96504358 [Report]
>>96504336
Always a shame when misalliance bait randomly has a good gift hidden in it
Anonymous No.96504363 [Report] >>96504373 >>96504389 >>96504394 >>96505612
>take deathless grasp
>touch [JNPL]'s corpse
What happens? Ota makes it clear we can affect Gods.
Anonymous No.96504370 [Report]
>>96504337
Tsy is for Rhucupre or Eirina so you can choose the personality you like more.
Anonymous No.96504373 [Report]
>>96504363
Explosion
Anonymous No.96504385 [Report]
>>96504353
>won the gift lottery but is too stupid to use them.
I pity her stupidity to use them.
>became the heir apparent of a kingdom by chance but is incapable of making use of the opportunity.
I pity her incapability of making use of the opportunity.

Why lacking in magic powers pitiful, but lacking in smarts isn't?
Anonymous No.96504386 [Report] >>96504417 >>96504451
>>96504344
>Zhivete
If it was some Unnotable Ones that could just disappear without anyone noticing, I would back the logic, but this is the hypothetical future Queen-Consort of Malkuth. Fate makes mockery of all Anon.
Anonymous No.96504389 [Report] >>96504400
>>96504363
Her soul is currently in the Outsider system, so mindless undead unless she decides to leave the system. She seems to be the most anti-undeath of the three, so I doubt she leaves the system.
Anonymous No.96504394 [Report]
>>96504363
>Ota makes it clear we can affect Gods

With very specific spells. Not necessary with something else.
Anonymous No.96504400 [Report] >>96504490
>>96504389
When you think about, that basically means that you've replaced Charlie as the new Usurper.
Anonymous No.96504406 [Report] >>96504474 >>96504518 >>96504557 >>96504620
>>96504353
>Teenage girl who just wanted to live a peaceful life gets forced into being heir apparent of the edgelord necromancy kingdom
>Anon asks why she's not a battle god or stern, wise queen
Anon, Maiosara is literally younger than the age the Outsider's own adventures would start at the time of your birth. This is like shitting on the Outsider for not doing anything while still in the Childhood section of their build.
Anonymous No.96504417 [Report]
>>96504386
>Queen-Consor
Malkuth seems to handpick which heir ends up on the throne, so I don't think they're going to downgrade their queen to a consort just because she's gotten married, to a foreigner no less.
Anonymous No.96504451 [Report]
>>96504386
It's an early modern setting; there isn't mass communication or photography. If she fucks off to another continent with nothing but her most trusted retainer and learns to lay low, she can stay hidden enough from the world and 11's point of view to count for Tsy. There's also more esoteric options like gaining the all-sight and using the future sight to avoid ever being caught.

There's tons of ways it could go badly, too, of course, but that's true of every death letter.
Anonymous No.96504474 [Report]
>>96504406
She's a jobber yes.
Anonymous No.96504487 [Report] >>96504492 >>96504506
>>96504353
I still argue that she's the only parent whose gift makes no sense for her role and is given no mention in her description. It feels like she was supposed to have a different eye gift other than Overflowing Pupil.
Anonymous No.96504490 [Report]
>>96504400
Maybe. You're denying Charlotte the corpse, and she needs that corpse to do her blood-writing thing, so it's a big deal. But also you'd need to control the pillar if you wanted to do Charlotte's blood-writing thing yourself, so you'd probably still need to kill her if you wanted it all.
Anonymous No.96504492 [Report] >>96504537
>>96504487
She literally has orange eyes bleeding orange tears, like the art of Overflowing Pupil.
Anonymous No.96504506 [Report]
>>96504487
Honestly, it kinda makes sense when you take >>96504232 into account. Every other parent is already developed and has had to leverage their gifts to achieve something. Maiosara's story has barely begun by the time she gets a kingdom thrown at her and gives birth.
Anonymous No.96504518 [Report] >>96504531
>>96504406
Every character has at least two roles in OR. Mayonara's intended roles are mother and wife. It's the same with Zwa and Simka. They are all young enough so you can still marry them.
Anonymous No.96504531 [Report] >>96504541 >>96504545
>>96504518
You can marry Maiosara sure, but at 17 years your senior it's unlikely she'd be unmarried by the time you can romance her post-build. You could Dice Fudge and True Love her, but even then anon should be aware that 35 year-old Maiosara probably isn't going to resemble her 17 year-old self in personality and mindset. Or wrinkles, unless Yesod genes are just that damn good (might be judging by Dirk and Unrr.)
Anonymous No.96504532 [Report] >>96504546
>>96497495 (OP)
>all the gods except one had children
>the god that didn't have children corrupted the other gods children in envy
tranny groomer god lol
Anonymous No.96504537 [Report] >>96504549 >>96504606
>>96504492
That's just the art Tank used for her, and the tears on the blade are much more relevant to her Grim Outlook. It just feels weird that the only parent with gifts that don't make sense and add nothing to her character is also the parent with the best points value since she gives the strongest boost (Ilfek gives one more point but he's less convenient for it)
Anonymous No.96504541 [Report] >>96504552
>>96504531
Unnr can have children at 54 without any magic help. Tumen women are just built different.
Anonymous No.96504545 [Report]
>>96504531
That's still possible. Mothers without royal claim are all older. So it's intended.
Anonymous No.96504546 [Report] >>96504629
>>96504532
Silence you!
Do not speak your filth
Anonymous No.96504549 [Report] >>96504581
>>96504537
>It's just weird that the 17 year-old who hasn't even started her journey isn't a god yet?
It's just like your Outsider, you can pile as many gifts on as you like but your real adventure starts at 18, you could legit spend all that time studying and training. That's not wasted.
>What the hell is wrong with the 11th Outisder, they have the All-Glimpse, Magician's Hand x2, Enochian Brand, and every single Mind gift, but at 16 years old all they've done is study magic and politics! Why aren't they a legendary warlord who's already beaten Charlotte out of Tsoshu!?
Anonymous No.96504552 [Report]
>>96504541
Maiosara is a Southlander, it's part of why she's unhappy, the Tumen treat her bad.
Anonymous No.96504557 [Report]
>>96504406
>This is like shitting on the Outsider for not doing anything while still in the Childhood section of their build.
If you don't defeat 0^0 by age 10 it's over.
Anonymous No.96504581 [Report] >>96504599
>>96504549
Nothing implies that she has the means, intentions or disposition to be a warrior capable of using her Overflowing Pupil to it's greatest extent. And even then, no one argues that she would be a god, without any other gift or martial training she wouldn't be that good on the battlefield and would have a limit 3 copies since she has no other gifts.
Just accept that it makes no sense for her character other than the art.
Anonymous No.96504599 [Report]
>>96504581
>Yes I should be given the entire future life story of this 17 year-old intended to be my mother and thus given an uncertain future that's supposed to be influenced by me and how I change her life
Also
>Without any other gift of martial training...
1) You don't need gifts to be a warrior. The strongest warrior on Doria is Paxxia, who has absolutely dogshit gifts. She's strong anyway.
2) Martial training isn't listed in the gift section for characters. You don't know if she's been trained to fight or not.
Anonymous No.96504606 [Report] >>96504628
>>96504537
I don't know his process, but tank seems to either be meticulous about the art he chooses or incorporate features from the art into his writing. All of the characters with anachronistic tech in their art are described as having outsider relics, for example. And all the characters with blindfolds either have All-Sight or are specifically called out as not having it Art is part of the text in OR, not something slapped on after the writing is finished.
Anonymous No.96504620 [Report] >>96504639 >>96504648
>>96504406
Go-getters like Simka have corrupted anons, it's not normal to rebuild a kingdom before you're even 16 years old.
Anonymous No.96504628 [Report]
>>96504606
And remember the horses!
Anonymous No.96504629 [Report]
>>96504546
I'm sorry.
I'm just acting out because I am an incel chud that's never known pacifying romantic love.
Anonymous No.96504635 [Report] >>96504641 >>96504642 >>96504655 >>96504675
Are we really complaining that lore characters aren't min-maxed like a player's build now?
Anonymous No.96504639 [Report]
>>96504620
Its amazing that Simka did all that with just Wisdom, Intelligence, Noble Inclination and Royal Claim. Wisdom truly is the best gift.
Anonymous No.96504641 [Report]
>>96504635
Who's we?
Anonymous No.96504642 [Report]
>>96504635
It's the natural conclusion of the discussion.
Anonymous No.96504648 [Report] >>96504674
>>96504620
I killed a traitorous general of the exarchate before i was even born, anon. Get good.
Anonymous No.96504655 [Report]
>>96504635
No jobber in my bloodline.
Anonymous No.96504664 [Report] >>96504671 >>96504684 >>96504686 >>96504696 >>96504779 >>96505086
Alright, I’m ready to be done with OR. Oridon, please finish your rework and add blue magic since that mediocre interactive makes me want it in a build
Anonymous No.96504671 [Report]
>>96504664
No, I still have a few things to finish and post
Give it about a day for me to finish or give up
Anonymous No.96504672 [Report]
Oh we're still doing OR?
I'll be back in another week I guess
Anonymous No.96504674 [Report]
>>96504648
But did you kill Charlie before the Outsider system stopped holding your hand?
Anonymous No.96504675 [Report]
>>96504635
It's all in good fun. Anons will do this regardless.
Anonymous No.96504684 [Report]
>>96504664
You know, I'm kind of surprised we don't have some cyoas that are all about building a complex blue magic system for yourself.
Anonymous No.96504686 [Report] >>96504689 >>96504771 >>96506460
>>96504664
I missed the Spirit Conscript era, can we repeat that again?
Anonymous No.96504688 [Report] >>96504706
I'm starting to miss Tok...
Anonymous No.96504689 [Report] >>96504708 >>96504724
>>96504686
Yokai suck and Alchemy is overpowered.
Anonymous No.96504696 [Report]
>>96504664
Ordion is preparing to leave the /cyoag/ realms for the glory of wageslavery until death.
Whatever he puts out in the coming days may be the last we ever hear from him.
Anonymous No.96504706 [Report] >>96504716
>>96504688
Tok is a broken man.
Magic the Awakening killed him.
I'd be surprised if he ever makes a decent CYOA of adequate length again.
Anonymous No.96504708 [Report]
>>96504689
You just suck at building yokai
Anonymous No.96504716 [Report] >>96504760
>>96504706
He's gotta be in his 50s by now. There will be a day where he never posts again.
Anonymous No.96504724 [Report] >>96504734
>>96504689
We're off to a good start. Why? Sell me on the other options.
Anonymous No.96504734 [Report] >>96504752
>>96504724
>Why
Yokai suck because their exclusive powers rely in tricking idiots, scaring people stronger than you, and kissing your enemies.
Anonymous No.96504752 [Report] >>96504756
>>96504734
Yokai are based
Anonymous No.96504756 [Report] >>96504775
>>96504752
>Anon wants to kiss his enemies
Anonymous No.96504760 [Report]
>>96504716
Lol what
He's like 35 tops
Anonymous No.96504771 [Report] >>96504780
>>96504686
Overpowered is the only Potential worth picking.
Anonymous No.96504775 [Report] >>96504778
>>96504756
>not kissing your enemies
What are you, gay?
Anonymous No.96504778 [Report] >>96504790
>>96504775
Yeah
Anonymous No.96504779 [Report]
>>96504664
You've been posting the same thing for two weeks now, if you wanted to talk about something else you would just do it instead of only saying
>Wow OR discussion is truly dying this time, for real
Anonymous No.96504780 [Report] >>96504795
>>96504771
Lacks Meaning.
Anonymous No.96504789 [Report] >>96504810 >>96504823
How are people still being born with Multiocular O when Vtorusha stole it from the Godscript like a discount Carmen Sandiego?
Anonymous No.96504790 [Report]
>>96504778
Anonymous No.96504795 [Report]
>>96504780
Go be meaningful as fodder lol
Anonymous No.96504797 [Report] >>96504811 >>96504815 >>96504819 >>96504860 >>96504869 >>96504881 >>96505073 >>96505554
>>96497551
I've been away for a month, so what are the new lore implications of this update?
0^0 still seems to be a dumbass you can defeat before closing the menu by adding any meta-script to Psi, but have we got more info on the three gods pretending to be defeated or the first war of heaven and earth?
Anonymous No.96504810 [Report]
>>96504789
Vtorusha's whole thesis was that the people deserves to take part in the authorship of the world. She stole Multi ocular O from above and made it a gift anyone can get.
Anonymous No.96504811 [Report]
>>96504797
Vtorusha has her own profile page now and we have two timelines (the timeline in the excel sheet and the historical maps.)
Anonymous No.96504815 [Report]
>>96504797
>Add yee to psi
[JNPL] is now a mortal woman
>Have sex with her
Checkmate atheists
Anonymous No.96504819 [Report]
>>96504797
You have collapse dream and reality. Anything else is meaningless.
Anonymous No.96504821 [Report] >>96504839 >>96504842 >>96504849
Any authors working on stuff?
Anonymous No.96504823 [Report]
>>96504789
Because of me
Anonymous No.96504839 [Report]
>>96504821
Why anon is still working on his never ever RIGHT NOW
Say hi anon!
Do you think you'll ever finish?
Anonymous No.96504842 [Report]
>>96504821
Yeah me
Anonymous No.96504849 [Report] >>96504865
>>96504821
Yes. Working on my 30 page multi-player isekai project with (you)r favorite powerset and waifu. I'm almost done, just need two more years.
Anonymous No.96504860 [Report] >>96504881 >>96504999
>>96504797
The weirdest thing about Outer Reincarnation is the fact that the outsider can win without ever closing the menu.
Imagine if they summoned some uber-autist that defeat charlie within 5 minutes of hearing the narrative, and them spends the next 1000 years still in characters creation just finding exploits in their metaphysical game-system.
Anonymous No.96504864 [Report] >>96504885
Other authors been awfully quiet since Outer Reincarnation 2 dropped.
Anonymous No.96504865 [Report]
>>96504849
Wow, blue magic and yandere loli monster girls, I can't wait.
Anonymous No.96504869 [Report] >>96504882 >>96504886 >>96504912
>>96504797
Well to summarize the update added double the parents, companions and mentor choices, it added a new mechanic with Encounters, the Mamet continent has been heavily expanded and there are locations to be born in there, it added several new gifts, it rebalanced several point values but all in all your budget is a lot more lenient this time.
It also came with pages upon pages of timelines and world building alongside a unique Outsiders page that shows that most of them were cute but stupid girls.
Anonymous No.96504872 [Report] >>96504880 >>96504894
I wish there were more CYOA communities besides imageboards and reddit. Both are terrible.
Anonymous No.96504880 [Report] >>96504904
>>96504872
Do you speak korean?
Anonymous No.96504881 [Report]
>>96504797
>>96504860
Anything is possible if you cheat
Anonymous No.96504882 [Report]
>>96504869
>most of them were cute but stupid girls
The best.
Anonymous No.96504885 [Report] >>96504896
>>96504864
No they haven't
2 oc and an update dropped
Anonymous No.96504886 [Report]
>>96504869
>most of them were cute but stupid girls
5 dudes 5 girls, all the dudes are dead now.
Undead still counts as dead
Anonymous No.96504894 [Report] >>96504924
>>96504872
You could venture to 8 and try to build something there
Maybe you could start a discord and yours would be different
Anonymous No.96504896 [Report]
>>96504885
I blame whoever's making new threads for not posting the new OC at the start.
Anonymous No.96504904 [Report]
>>96504880
Sadly I'm English (Insular)
Anonymous No.96504912 [Report] >>96504937 >>96504950
>>96504869
>most of them

Nah, only half.
Anonymous No.96504919 [Report] >>96504936 >>96504939 >>96504940 >>96504976 >>96504996 >>96505019
>blue magic this
>green magic that
>black magic then
>white magic thus
So many shades of magic, but what about red magic? I haven't ever seen a magic CYOA that was explicitly about violence and destruction. I suppose that means authors trend toward meticulous and thoughtful personalities.
Anonymous No.96504924 [Report] >>96504933
>>96504894
No, no...I long for the days of proper forum posting.
Anonymous No.96504931 [Report] >>96504968 >>96504973
>>96498657
Holy shit, Artificer is such a point hog. Sure, it's the best archetype, but that doesn't justify it being 3 times the price of everything else, does it?
Anonymous No.96504933 [Report]
>>96504924
QuestionableQuesting has a CYOA thread.
Anonymous No.96504936 [Report]
>>96504919
Red magic is when you combine black and optionally white magic with swordplay. A spellblade, basically.
Anonymous No.96504937 [Report] >>96504950
>>96504912
Savmak is being wielded by his cute girl descendant and he was pretty dumb in a tsundere way so he counts.
Anonymous No.96504939 [Report]
>>96504919
Red magic is usually black+white magic. The new OC that came out made it counter-magic.
Anonymous No.96504940 [Report]
>>96504919
that's just fire magic
Anonymous No.96504950 [Report] >>96504982 >>96504995
>>96504912
>>96504937
Reminder that if you slap Girlmak with Iotated Greater Yus there is absolutely no way fate doesn't resolve that death by having Savmak fuse with her so he gets stuck as a half-undead cute girl.
Anonymous No.96504968 [Report]
>>96504931
It's hilarious how the archetype that isn't actually an archetype BTFOs the actual archetypes.
Anonymous No.96504973 [Report]
>>96504931
If you hover your cursor over some options you can get author commentary. If you hover over that archetype you can see that they state that the cost is such because you aren't meant to max all three artificer skills. I think that's a silly reason for things, but is the author's apparent reason for it.
Anonymous No.96504976 [Report] >>96505005 >>96505019
>>96504919
Most of those names come from Final Fantasy which basically created Blue Magic as s concept. Red Mage was a class even in FF1 were it was a combination of Black mage, White Mage and Fighter. The class has been a staple since then but it never had any Red Magic to cast.
Anonymous No.96504982 [Report] >>96505012 >>96505018
>>96504950
Savmak is the easiest outsider to resurrect. If you don't count One and Katya. Tuzik is probably the hardest and Sarmat is close to him.
Anonymous No.96504984 [Report] >>96505009
CYoa where I can be a cool swordsman with cool techniques?
Anonymous No.96504995 [Report] >>96505012
>>96504950
After 500 years of sensory deprivation is there any way he doesn't lose to the cock and become a cute servant?
Anonymous No.96504996 [Report]
>>96504919
So like
Anonymous No.96504999 [Report] >>96505011 >>96505039
>>96504860
Thats what they want. You'd be the favorite of all three.
Anonymous No.96505005 [Report]
>>96504976
Some other fiction has created some specific red magic to apply to the concept. However it's usually just white magic focused on buffing the caster, or casting spells through a sword on hit.
Anonymous No.96505009 [Report]
>>96504984
Don't know the name of it but there was a steampunk era cyoa where you chose different fencing techniques.
Anonymous No.96505011 [Report] >>96505039
>>96504999
>trips
>trips are also 3x3
The three approve this message.
Anonymous No.96505012 [Report] >>96505035 >>96505037 >>96505042
>>96504982
If they passed on I don't think you can resurrect them, even Aat's 'revival' is more Baf stealing his powers or Dei making a copy with a different soul.
>>96504995
You didn't forget to use True Love, right?
Anonymous No.96505018 [Report]
>>96504982
While I didn't make a build for it, I had a concept in my head for an Eleventh Seat creator. It was basically grabbing all the descendants form the outsiders and pull a Vtorusha by creating literal seats for them to bring back their ancestors. I needed two siblings with the parents being Marsaget or Senamotis alongside someone with Warmachina Riding, but otherwise the concept was very viable.
Anonymous No.96505019 [Report]
>>96504919
>>96504976
Yeah in FF Green Magic is normally status-effect magic too. It also commonly has Time Magic.
Anonymous No.96505035 [Report]
>>96505012
You could pull a Remember The Demon and summon their specific souls if you can somehow find them and know when they're in-between reincarnations.
Anonymous No.96505037 [Report]
>>96505012
Remember the Demon implies it's possible to steal a soul from JNPL's house while it's waiting between reincarnations. That also seems to be what happened with Inga Yesod.
Anonymous No.96505039 [Report]
>>96504999
>>96505011
Revelation
Anonymous No.96505042 [Report] >>96505050
>>96505012
True Love is for boosting icon of icons
Anonymous No.96505050 [Report] >>96505057
>>96505042
True Love in this case is for ensuring that Savmak^2 has strong feelings of love for you that overpower whatever surliness the male half has.
Anonymous No.96505055 [Report]
I still haven't finalized my build...
Anonymous No.96505057 [Report] >>96505061 >>96505062 >>96505063 >>96505071 >>96505076 >>96505088
>>96505050
Why do you guys want to genderbend people so much? We have people genderbending Blazkho, genderbending Dirk, and now turning Savmak into an undead loli.
Anonymous No.96505061 [Report]
>>96505057
We're not gay.
Anonymous No.96505062 [Report]
>>96505057
It's my fetish.
Anonymous No.96505063 [Report]
>>96505057
It's cute.
Anonymous No.96505069 [Report] >>96505085 >>96505119
Exactly what kinds of things can you do with Seo's mentorship?
You can make spooky demon letters, and attack things by beginning the transformation while they're still alive?
Anonymous No.96505071 [Report] >>96505187
>>96505057
Contrast adds focus
The fact they were previously male both adds to the femininity of their form, and makes their personality more appealing
Anonymous No.96505073 [Report] >>96505172
>>96504797
>0^0 still seems to be a dumbass you can defeat before closing the menu by adding any meta-script to Psi,
You can't add anything to Psi, since you can't pick it.
Anonymous No.96505076 [Report] >>96505108
>>96505057
It's not our fault that genderbending Aat/Xian is so point-efficient.
Anonymous No.96505081 [Report] >>96505089 >>96505090 >>96505101 >>96505114
I'm going to True Love Stoyan just to fuck with him. Not to actually fuck him, but to make him question his sexuality.
Anonymous No.96505085 [Report]
>>96505069
You can summon incorporeal undead, use those undead similarly to demon letters, or attack people by inflicting 'undeath' on their bodies, damaging them.
Anonymous No.96505086 [Report] >>96505155
>>96504664
Blue Magic in that interactive is completely, and i mean COMPLETELY busted. It's infinite growth, the martial option is trash simply because it cannot take it.
Anonymous No.96505087 [Report]
Anonymous No.96505088 [Report]
>>96505057
Anon is a slave to his dick.
Anonymous No.96505089 [Report]
>>96505081
Watch out, anon. He might seduce your mom if he can't seduce you.
Anonymous No.96505090 [Report] >>96505120
>>96505081
>Man spends his whole life fucking women trying to get attention from SRTR for it
>First time he ever actually falls in love, it's with a man
>Maybe he was gay all along
Anonymous No.96505099 [Report] >>96505103 >>96505138
Anonymous No.96505101 [Report] >>96505126
>>96505081
He's gonna turn you gay, anon.
Anonymous No.96505103 [Report]
>>96505099
Anonymous No.96505108 [Report] >>96505120 >>96505127 >>96505158
>>96505076
But Baf won't actually become him.
Anonymous No.96505114 [Report]
>>96505081
>using True Love on a 40 year old man whore
ok, you do you I guess.
Anonymous No.96505119 [Report]
>>96505069
Xian's attempted possession of Erginter worked by turning himself a Majin undead, for one example.

Inflicting undeath on a living Empyrean likely has undesirable effects for the Empyrean, because of the undeath/empyreality contradiction.

Summoning ghosts is so iconic that even the uninitiated are aware of it.
Anonymous No.96505120 [Report] >>96505126
>>96505090
>>96505108
Since I'm not feeding into it too much, his feelings will fade with time but I will still bully him for it for years to come.
Anonymous No.96505126 [Report]
>>96505101
I meant to quote you here but whatever
>>96505120
Anonymous No.96505127 [Report]
>>96505108
It's close enough for me.
Anonymous No.96505138 [Report]
>>96505099
Lonely Earth and More Time is easy comfy mode.
Anonymous No.96505155 [Report]
>>96505086
I don’t disagree, but I also think the descriptions are a bit unclear and the author’s clarifications on reddit are even more dubious
Anonymous No.96505158 [Report] >>96505171 >>96505313
>>96505108
That's why it's 100% heterosexual, just like having sexual relations with False Aeneas.
Anonymous No.96505171 [Report] >>96505313
>>96505158
Fucking False Aeneas is not just having a good waifu, it's also cucking True Aenaes. That's a good thing.
Anonymous No.96505172 [Report] >>96505179 >>96505209 >>96505349 >>96505436 >>96505448
>>96505073
>You can't add anything to Psi
Reread the meta letters. They don't require you to pick a letter, they're simply "Added to Any other letter"
You can choose to make JNPL an undead, a normal woman, or even erase history so she never died and leave you stuck as the only existing thread of a rewritten timeline.
You can even do all of the above at once(which I think is how world-boss anon thought up "Error-Spider's" weird time shit back when OR first dropped).
Anonymous No.96505179 [Report] >>96505194 >>96505200
>>96505172
>a normal woman
Wouldn't she just ascend again or can they decide not to do that?
Anonymous No.96505187 [Report] >>96505229
>>96505071
Just say you're gay
Anonymous No.96505194 [Report]
>>96505179
I don't fucking know how gods work. Death doesn't even mean much to them in the first place given how JNPL is literally talking to you the entire cyoa.
Anonymous No.96505200 [Report] >>96505220 >>96505236
>>96505179
Nothing would happen, because it doesn't work. Anon is just playing in SRTR mode.
Anonymous No.96505209 [Report] >>96505342
>>96505172
>You can even do all of the above at once
I think this is how you get all three goddesses as your patron.
You've just created one of the greatest upsets in history[SRTR is happy], created three completely parallel world stories that all interact with each other in new ways[YMRD is happy], and just gave a goddess three new journeys of self discovery to undertake[JNPL is happy].
So in short, You're now Completely Fucked.
Anonymous No.96505220 [Report] >>96505352
>>96505200
>This strategy doesn't work because I don't like it
There's absolutely nothing I've said that isn't following the rules. Gaming the system isn't ground for SRTR, only Breaking the rules entirely.
Anonymous No.96505229 [Report] >>96505246 >>96505325
>>96505187
For who?
What use would it be to me when I don't want to have sex with any men?
What use would it be to others when I don't want to have sex with them
Calling me gay makes no attempt to describe or understand my behavior and only tries to force an elaborate and meaningless categorization on it
If you cannot distinguish between someone who wants to fuck men and someone who wants to fuck tomboys with backstories you are a retard
Anonymous No.96505236 [Report] >>96505240 >>96505352
>>96505200
Anon, you sound like a [CHRL] simp. Taking your fun-policing somewhere else.
Anonymous No.96505240 [Report] >>96505252 >>96505258
>>96505236
It would be [CHRLS], that's why it was replaced with 0^0
Anonymous No.96505246 [Report] >>96505255
>>96505229
Shhh, it's okay to be gay anon.
Anonymous No.96505252 [Report] >>96505270
>>96505240
>[CHRLS]
Nah, that breaks the 4 letter pattern. She also isn't called "Charlse", she's "Charlie" so there would be no [S]
Anonymous No.96505255 [Report] >>96505271 >>96505279 >>96505287
>>96505246
IT ISN'T OK TO BE A LINGUISTIC PERSCRIPTIVIST
IT ISN'T OK TO TWIST THE MEANINGS OF WORDS COMPLETELY OUT OF THEIR COMMON SHAPE, TO REMOVE THEIR ABILITY TO DISTINGUISH FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR PETTY SOPHISTRY
Anonymous No.96505257 [Report] >>96505265
It does say Psi is already applied to JNPL so you should be able to add a letter.

In that way you could also apply them to Multiocular O and Iotated Yat for more shenanigans.
Anonymous No.96505258 [Report]
>>96505240
>Admits he's a [CHRL] simp
Every time.
Anonymous No.96505265 [Report]
>>96505257
>you could also apply them to Multiocular O and Iotated Yat
I can only imagine YMRD is salivating at the image of an Outside discovering those secrets in the OR system.
Anonymous No.96505270 [Report] >>96505284 >>96505285
>>96505252
Yes, it does break the pattern!
Aren't you a smart little boy?
Now what would an author be to do If applying the formula again didn't follow the pattern?
(Also, she isn't actually charlie, we just call her that. it's charles)
Anonymous No.96505271 [Report] >>96505281
>>96505255
>IT ISN'T OK TO TWIST THE MEANINGS OF WORDS COMPLETELY OUT OF THEIR COMMON SHAPE
This is literally exactly the kind of thing the gods encourage. You can't learn the godscript without exploring its potential meanings.
Anonymous No.96505279 [Report]
>>96505255
If you want to kiss men there's no shame in that. It's not your fault, anon.
Anonymous No.96505281 [Report] >>96505299
>>96505271
Damn you got me
I guess I'm gay now...
...
So, anon, my nearest gay expert, you free later?
Anonymous No.96505284 [Report] >>96505297
>>96505270
>Also, she isn't actually charlie, we just call her that. it's charles
So 0^0 is a tranny?
Anonymous No.96505285 [Report] >>96505297 >>96505303
>>96505270
>Also, she isn't actually charlie
Charlie is the short-form of "Charlotte" anon.
She literally is a Charlie.
There is no [S]
Anonymous No.96505287 [Report]
>>96505255
How do you think Languages evolve?
Parole twist and make up shit all the time.
Anonymous No.96505297 [Report] >>96505318
>>96505284
>>96505285
You are not the true faithful of [YMRD]
Anonymous No.96505299 [Report] >>96505305
>>96505281
Sorry, I'm married.
Anonymous No.96505303 [Report] >>96506841
>>96505285
Fuck, I kinda want to go back in time to fix past [CHRL]
She was a hero, but really lost the plot to her own goals
Anonymous No.96505305 [Report] >>96505336
>>96505299
You literally made me gay with your superior facts and logic
Take responsibility and kiss me
Anonymous No.96505313 [Report]
>>96505158
>>96505171
Just make sure you're not fucking the False Anus instead.
Anonymous No.96505318 [Report]
>>96505297
Anon, everyone knows about sartre. That doesn't mean the charlie needs to change her name to charlse. Stop trying to bend the truth to fit you bad ideas and accept that the populist theory was right all along.
YMRD would be disappointed in you for pretending sophistry was truth.
Anonymous No.96505325 [Report]
>>96505229
Anon believes in male souls, which is why when he inevitably gets reincarnated as a bar wench she's gonna freak.
Anonymous No.96505336 [Report]
>>96505305
My wife's boyfriend is going to be pissed but fine.
Anonymous No.96505342 [Report]
>>96505209
I wonder if SRTR would be more pissed that she didn't get to enact her THETA plan or more happy that the greatest plot since the first War of Heaven and Earth just got kicked off?
Anonymous No.96505349 [Report]
>>96505172
>Pick any of the letters from the list below and apply them to every single character you've picked before (...) Only if someone has no death slot they will get to go free
Those are literally the rules anon, how will you add a letter to someone you didn't pick and, if you did pick her as your mother, doesn't have a death slot.
Just say you are using the Blessing of [SRTR].
Anonymous No.96505352 [Report] >>96505380 >>96505393 >>96505422
>>96505220
You don't get to arbitrarily apply letters to whichever characters you want. Only characters you've chosen, and only those who have a death slot. This is in the rules.

>>96505236
You're allowed to play SRTR mode. Nobody said you weren't. Presenting SRTR mode shit as if it were legal is bullshit, though.
Anonymous No.96505366 [Report] >>96505371 >>96505384 >>96505413
>>96497551
What happens if someone chooses to take both "Half-Templates" for empyrean and undead in the same life? Having half yourself so anchored to reality it refuses to pass and half so disconnected that its unaffected by true reality seems like it'd cause some weird shit.
Anonymous No.96505371 [Report]
>>96505366
We don't know, nobody has done it before. Go and find out, report back if you survive.
Anonymous No.96505380 [Report] >>96505412 >>96505429
>>96505352
>Only characters you've chosen
You can choose [JNPL]
>and only those who have a death slot
Not a requirement for meta-letters. They only require that a death-letter was applied to someone.
Psi was explicitly chosen for [JNPL] in it's own description.
Applying meta-letters to Psi is rules legal, no matter how much you seeth about it.
Anonymous No.96505384 [Report]
>>96505366
Tank said that he hasn't actually decided how undeath and empyreality interact, other than that it's weird.
Anonymous No.96505393 [Report] >>96505404
>>96505352
>You're allowed to play SRTR mode.
Anon, shut the fuck up with your pedantic bullshit. The only one playing SRTR here is you, but for some reason you feel the need to try to force everyone else to follow your headcanon, which is absolutely against SRTR's rules.
Anonymous No.96505404 [Report] >>96505415 >>96505416 >>96505424
>>96505393
I don't like you
I don't care about the arguement you are having with that other guy but it is clear that you are only using words as tools, sticks and stones to whack against the heads of your "opponents"
Bad, no good, poor behaviour
I hope you are atleast underaged, and might grow out of this
Anonymous No.96505412 [Report]
>>96505380
Anonymous No.96505413 [Report]
>>96505366
You become a fanfiction writer. Empyreans disconnection from the story is in a sense a false attempt at ascending to authorhood thats false because it leaves you disconnected to any story. Undead grounds this into an already existing story hence fanfiction writer. One step closer to becoming an elder god even if limited to one world.
Anonymous No.96505415 [Report]
>>96505404
I accept your concession.
Anonymous No.96505416 [Report]
>>96505404
Kek
Anonymous No.96505422 [Report] >>96505427
>>96505352
>only those who have a death slot
Doesn't JNPL have a death slot? It's just been filled with "Psi"
Anonymous No.96505424 [Report] >>96505443
>>96505404
Did you really interupt the back and forth to say "Y-You're mean!" ?
Anonymous No.96505427 [Report] >>96505449
>>96505422
Who says you need a death slot to have a letter applied?
Anonymous No.96505429 [Report] >>96505433
>>96505380
How are you giving a death letter to someone with without a death slot you can interact with. It's like saying that you could give Yee to Charlie, according to your interpretation, or Zemlya to the entire Uruk Horde.
Just accept you are trying to bend a rule that is perfectly clear.
Anonymous No.96505433 [Report] >>96505456 >>96505458
>>96505429
Yphont literally did apply a letter to the entire Uruk horde though.
Anonymous No.96505436 [Report]
>>96505172
>(which I think is how world-boss anon thought up "Error-Spider's" weird time shit back when OR first dropped)
Ah yes, because it'll be a great idea to follow the example of a character that was punished by the system so hard they became a boss monster for players to kill rather than a person with agency.
Anonymous No.96505442 [Report] >>96505451 >>96505454 >>96505466 >>96505491
>>96497551
Anonymous No.96505443 [Report]
>>96505424
I am a different guy and I have no particular reason to hide anything
He's annoying, I don't like him
There is no reason to dramatise it and some reason to declare it
I hope he leaves or changes
Anonymous No.96505448 [Report] >>96505462
>>96505172
3_tankista told us in the Q & A that it doesn't do anything.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qyKsF-T2-OeNRHBOwwgrSKs77ef4S9TE/
>>>I’m not sure I follow what JNPL has to do with this, I’m sorry.
>>I meant to ask about Psi, it's my fault. JNPL has reincarnated as the Outsider system (Yee), is a kind of ghost (Zemlya), and may even be alive (Zhivete). So I gather that none of them can fix her situation because nothing would change.
>Yeah, that’s correct.
Anonymous No.96505449 [Report]
>>96505427
We know for a fact that you don't need a death slot to have a letter applied. Application of Zemlya or Khier is one of the known ways to remove your death slot.
Anonymous No.96505451 [Report] >>96505468
>>96505442
What the fuck am I looking at?
Anonymous No.96505454 [Report] >>96505477 >>96505593
>>96505442
Which world is the comfiest?
Anonymous No.96505456 [Report] >>96505465
>>96505433
She did a weird Eternal Curse sorcery that basically gave the horde aids, her death letter was merely the means of applying it.
Anonymous No.96505458 [Report]
>>96505433
NTA, but she didn't do it via the Outsider System, right? From my understanding, it was a spell targeting every individual of the Horde.
Anonymous No.96505462 [Report] >>96505479 >>96505488
>>96505448
That is the most boring answer that could possibly have been given.
Absolute trash answer.
Anonymous No.96505465 [Report]
>>96505456
>Eternal Curse
Speaking of, what does anyone who has gone Dark Elf plan to do about their Eternal Curse?
Anonymous No.96505466 [Report] >>96505482 >>96505532
>>96505442
I want to compress this to 5 but I don't want to actually go through and do it, and I would need to keep pre established groups
Can someone do it for me?
Please?
Anonymous No.96505468 [Report]
>>96505451
The various worlds or servers of the current tide. Unlike the first tide we're for better or worse trying to follow the rules instead of just cramming everything into one timeline and dragonbreaking it.
Anonymous No.96505477 [Report]
>>96505454
Glagoli, Zemlya, and Zelo are fine.
Anonymous No.96505479 [Report] >>96505500
>>96505462
Just accept defeat.
Anonymous No.96505482 [Report] >>96505490
>>96505466
5 what? 5 Worlds? That's impossible.
Anonymous No.96505488 [Report] >>96505501 >>96505506
>>96505462
>Refusing to trivialize the entire game by providing a perfect one true answer is boring
Anonymous No.96505490 [Report] >>96505532
>>96505482
It would have some overlap but there shouldn't really be more then 7 different worlds
Anonymous No.96505491 [Report] >>96505497
>>96505442
How the fuck did everyone dodge Yest'?
Anonymous No.96505497 [Report]
>>96505491
Escher took too many popular characters.
Anonymous No.96505500 [Report] >>96505511 >>96505513
>>96505479
No. Next QA I'm bringing this up.
"Nothing Happens" is the absolute worst answer an author can give in this situation, because it destroys possibilities for new elements or conflict in their cyoa/setting.
Anonymous No.96505501 [Report] >>96505514
>>96505488
The goal of the name is to find exploits, but when we do he patch or deny them.
It's lame.
Anonymous No.96505506 [Report] >>96505512 >>96505540 >>96505541
>>96505488
>perfect one true answer
Anon, this CYOA is based on umineko
CHRL was never the real enemy to begin with. Defeating her is a meaningless distraction.
Anonymous No.96505511 [Report] >>96505520
>>96505500
I fail to see the issue?
Between the Pandemonium, the Nightmare, the 99 political plots etc, there are enough elements for the setting. That doesn't devalue the CYOA for me.
Anonymous No.96505512 [Report] >>96505533 >>96505556 >>96505593
>>96505506
Doesn't that mean the real goal is piecing together your memories?
Anonymous No.96505513 [Report] >>96505527
>>96505500
This conversation started when someone asked
>Can you still trivialize the whole thing by adding a letter to Psi?
That's literally removing the whole conflict from the cyoa.
Anonymous No.96505514 [Report]
>>96505501
I sure hope he fucking patches the Keter and Tam language trick. No, not because of "Meaning" bullshit. I just don't want to see samey builds.
Anonymous No.96505520 [Report] >>96505543 >>96505557
>>96505511
>That doesn't devalue the CYOA for me
Then you missed the forest for the trees. If you genuinely don't see the problem, then I recommend you go read umineko.
Anonymous No.96505527 [Report] >>96505541 >>96505553
>>96505513
>People still think the real conflict is with charlie
Anonymous No.96505532 [Report] >>96505546
>>96505466
>>96505490
Just exile worlds Yest', Zemlya, Izhe and Yee to the Xi hermitage. If the builds of those worlds don't fit Az, Buki, Vedi, Glagoli, Dobro, Zhivete or Zelo they get sent to the hermitage. Problem solved.
Anonymous No.96505533 [Report]
>>96505512
>AZ is the canon choice for the 11th outsider
I KNEW IT!
Anonymous No.96505540 [Report]
>>96505506
uminekofags comprehend the difference between 'inspired by' and 'based on' challenge: impossible
Anonymous No.96505541 [Report] >>96505561
>>96505506
>>96505527
What is the real conflict then? I played umineko myself but I'm confused at people saying there's a real enemy.
Anonymous No.96505543 [Report] >>96505585
>>96505520
I read it when Outer Reincarnation released three years ago. Which is why I'm asking you to explain the problem to me, because I don't want to leave the interaction thinking "That guy is just autistic, who cares".
Why do you care so much about that?
Anonymous No.96505546 [Report]
>>96505532
But I want all of them with me...
Anonymous No.96505551 [Report] >>96505599
>>96503288
>Godslayer Punchardt (Bleeding Heart Gesture): "Cannot be blocked by magic." A B S U R D. Probably illegal.
Bleeding Heart Gesture + Autoantecedence costs 20 (twenty) fucking points. It’s the most expensive gift in the CYOA. You could get Icon of Icons + All-Glimpse + Caster Package + Intelligence/Cognitive Speed/Memory Retention for the same price.
It should allow you to punch god or some shit
Anonymous No.96505553 [Report]
>>96505527
There is in fact no real conflict if we look at things from the broadest perspective. Everything is for the goal of true ascension of everyone—whether one realizes it or not, everyone is working with everyone to ascend everyone.
Anonymous No.96505554 [Report] >>96505559 >>96505622
>>96504797
Seems that this update may have quietly removed half the meta elements that made the OG interesting.
Tankista may have retconned the three goddesses being the real main threat and boiled it down to 0^0 being the only big bad.
Anonymous No.96505556 [Report]
>>96505512
That's the surprise reveal - all Outsiders are people you knew, and this is a group therapy session.
Anonymous No.96505557 [Report]
>>96505520
Why are uminekofags so insistent on always turning everything into it?
This is a cyoa, the hidden narrative is literally what you make of it. No one is policing your story to tell you that what you are picturing is wrong.
Anonymous No.96505559 [Report] >>96505569 >>96505616
>>96505554
He pretty much did that with the character of Mithra yeah. Before the update there was ambiguity if the Elder Gods were benevolent or evil but with Mithra confirming ascension isn't bullshit the ambiguity is gone for better or worse.
Anonymous No.96505561 [Report] >>96505573 >>96505594
>>96505541
The conflict between people and the goddesses, which is more complex in that its a conflict the godesses Want in the first place and are currently using 0^0 as their unknowing sock-puppet to encourage.
Defeating 0^0 in the menu is a small meta-element that doesn't actually resolve the central conflict of the setting, but encourages the player to find other secrets.
Anonymous No.96505569 [Report] >>96505625
>>96505559
>or worse.
Better isn't even realistically an option. The ambiguity is what made things interesting.
This is like when someone "updated" witches awakening with a bunch of horrible bullshit and bad color design, ultimately killing what made the original great in the first place.
Anonymous No.96505573 [Report] >>96505584 >>96505596
>>96505561
There's only a conflict against the goddesses if you have something against their plan. They literally tell you that you are free to go against them and deflect to Charlie if you desire. The entire point is to make a story.
Anonymous No.96505584 [Report]
>>96505573
And this was also in v1 mind you, you made a whole scenario of evil goddesses in your head while they always simply stood by even if you went against their plans.
Anonymous No.96505585 [Report] >>96505626
>>96505543
Because it doesn't actually solve anything, it's just a mechanism for other stories to be made. It's a little breadcrumb that rewards players for digging deeper and encourages them to discover that 0^0 was never the biggest problem to begin with.
It was genius design.
Anonymous No.96505593 [Report]
>>96505454
Zhivete

>>96505512
Yes.
Anonymous No.96505594 [Report] >>96505604
>>96505561
I'm not sure that's a conflict anyone can resolve though. There's always going to be outsiders and insiders who disagree with the Elder Gods plans because people will always have different ideas of Meaning. Vtorusha and Charlotte won't be the last and the Elder Gods want it that way.
Anonymous No.96505596 [Report] >>96505643
>>96505573
There's only a conflict against 0^0 if you have something against her plan.
Do you see how meaningless this statement is yet?
Anonymous No.96505599 [Report] >>96505629
>>96505551
It doesn't matter how many points it costs. Magic is the manipulation of the God-Script. The setting is God-Script. Magic cannot be bypassed because that would be bypassing the setting.
Anonymous No.96505604 [Report] >>96505642
>>96505594
>I'm not sure that's a conflict anyone can resolve though.
That's the point. It being ambiguous means players can make their own story. The author making one shallow answer to everything kills most of the creativity.
Anonymous No.96505612 [Report]
>>96504363
Nothing. I believe Tankista said she wouldn't want to become undead and so would simply stay dead.
Anonymous No.96505616 [Report] >>96505632
>>96505559
>but with Mithra confirming ascension isn't bullshit the ambiguity is gone for better or worse.
Does that really mean the Elder Gods are justified? If Mithra is making a new world with new mortals, does that not mean more suffering to ascend them so they can create more worlds to torture? I do not think ascension resolves the problem of "if god is good, why is there evil?". It seems to me like it is still completely justified to go against the Elder Gods.
Anonymous No.96505617 [Report] >>96505633
>New update kills half the things that fans liked about the original
Why do so many authors do this?
Anonymous No.96505622 [Report]
>>96505554
>Tankista may have retconned the three goddesses being the real main threat
That was always headcanon, Charlotte-fag.
Anonymous No.96505625 [Report]
>>96505569
I love the Witch Awakening update.
Anonymous No.96505626 [Report] >>96505638
>>96505585
...But the puzzle remains?
Let's pretend there is a button that kills the Ninth. Cool shit, but Doria still has at least one crisis per nation, the Uruk remains undaunted, Orthrung is still nuked, the Nightmare continues to consume the setting, etc.
Or if we go up one layer, whether or not the Elder Gods are evil doesn't matter. Their views on morality is skewed by divinity and the ascension plan. They'd probably accept the villain mantle if it led you to ascend faster. The only one not aware of her role (and at peace with that) is the Usurper.
Anonymous No.96505629 [Report] >>96505671
>>96505599
Gifts are manipulation of the God-Script. God-Script can bypass God-Script.
Anonymous No.96505632 [Report] >>96505641
>>96505616
>Does that really mean the Elder Gods are justified?
Yes. Pain is easily justified is the rewards are good enough.
That's why diet and excersize are good things despite being absolutely miserable experiences to put yourself through, because the benefits are worth it and it's a respectable thing to strive for.
Saying the gods are evil after mithra is like being a fat couch potato complaining the world is unfair and out to get him when the doctor tells him his eating habits gave him cancer.
Anonymous No.96505633 [Report] >>96505647 >>96505657 >>96505674
>>96505617
They're not fans of the CYOA, they're fans of umineko, to the point that they refused to engage with the CYOA as it was. They're now mad that the update didn't confirm their headcanons.
Anonymous No.96505638 [Report] >>96505673
>>96505626
>...But the puzzle remains?
Exactly? That was my point anon.
Are your still arguing that "this does nothing" nerf to meta-letters was a good thing or are you agreeing with me?
Anonymous No.96505641 [Report]
>>96505632
My point is if new gods create a new worlds, the proportion of mortals to gods will remain the same.
Anonymous No.96505642 [Report] >>96505658
>>96505604
It's still ambiguous if there isn't a better way to do the plan (Vtorusha) or if the plan is worth it at all, you can't just stomp your feet and scream that everyone else is wrong and you're right.
Anonymous No.96505643 [Report] >>96505658
>>96505596
Nothing is stopping you from pulling a Vtorusha and rebelling against them, I don't see why it is necessary to get rid of Charlie easily for that to happen.
Anonymous No.96505647 [Report] >>96505653 >>96505693
>>96505633
>They're now mad that the update didn't confirm their headcanons.
>Acts like tankista wasn't 100% playing into this when OR first came out
I encourage you to look at the 2022 threads anon. You'll realize how retarded you sound.
Anonymous No.96505653 [Report]
>>96505647
I was there in 2022. Y'all were as annoying then as you are now.
Anonymous No.96505657 [Report] >>96505662 >>96505669 >>96505693
>>96505633
>They're
Anon, let's be real for a second. Every post having a tantrum about 'killing the original' and not being able to revive JNPL on page 18 is the exact same anon. He keeps wording his fit in the same exact way. It's one guy, having a mental breakdown, making the same fucking post over and over.
Anonymous No.96505658 [Report] >>96505668 >>96505693
>>96505642
>>96505643
>Missing the point this hard
I can't tell if your being genuine or purposefully misrepresenting what I'm saying anymore.
Anonymous No.96505662 [Report]
>>96505657
>Retardism
Kek
Anonymous No.96505668 [Report]
>>96505658
The point is that you're a faggot and your masterstroke was retarded and you need to get over it.
Anonymous No.96505669 [Report] >>96505693
>>96505657
>Everyone who diagrees with me is the same person
Every time.
Anonymous No.96505671 [Report] >>96505749
>>96505629
Only in part.
Anonymous No.96505673 [Report]
>>96505638
I think it doesn't matter.
Even if it did for some obscure reason, that's ONE path closed off while the 99 others are wide open.
Anonymous No.96505674 [Report]
>>96505633
I'm an umineko fan myself but I think you do have a point. In 2022 I finished the umineko vn recently so I could only see the story from a detached umineko lens where its all meta worlds, witches and boards and shit like some kind of Empyrean disconnection. In 2025 when umineko's not so fresh in my mind anymore I end up having more fun when I dont overthink the meta aspect and simply take the cyoa at face value just like any other cyoa.
Anonymous No.96505679 [Report] >>96505685 >>96505686 >>96505690 >>96505691 >>96505720
>768 replies
Think we can make it to 1000 anons?
Anonymous No.96505685 [Report]
>>96505679
I dont see why not. Discussion is good right now.
Anonymous No.96505686 [Report]
>>96505679
If anon keeps samefaging his temper tantrum maybe.
Anonymous No.96505690 [Report]
>>96505679
Watch some janny delete it now that you've said this.
Anonymous No.96505691 [Report]
>>96505679
That's illegal.
Anonymous No.96505693 [Report] >>96505697
>>96505647
>>96505658
>>96505669
Kek, >>96505657 was right.
Anonymous No.96505695 [Report] >>96505701 >>96505704
>Illegal build.
>Meaningless behavior.
I want those two anons to kiss.
Anonymous No.96505697 [Report] >>96505707 >>96505709
>>96505693
Stop replying to yourself
Anonymous No.96505701 [Report] >>96505712 >>96505719
>>96505695
Are there any two anons you don't want to kiss?
Anonymous No.96505704 [Report] >>96505710 >>96505719
>>96505695
They're the same anon. 99% of the thread is one schizo arguing with himself.
Anonymous No.96505707 [Report] >>96505714
>>96505697
Never!
Anonymous No.96505709 [Report]
>>96505697
Start replying to me
Go on, scroll up, You recognise me
Anonymous No.96505710 [Report] >>96505724
>>96505704
Take our meds anon.
Anonymous No.96505712 [Report]
>>96505701
Me and Rulesanon (everyone else ITT)
Anonymous No.96505714 [Report]
>>96505707
Now post the updated and improved version of this.
Anonymous No.96505719 [Report] >>96505730
>>96505701
>>96505704
Gil...
Please come back. We need you to save us from this new era of based authors.
Anonymous No.96505720 [Report]
>>96505679
The thread these past few weeks have gone to 1500 anon
Anonymous No.96505724 [Report]
>>96505710
>our meds
Anonymous No.96505730 [Report]
>>96505719
https://imgchest.com/p/wl7lxnmrq7x
Anonymous No.96505733 [Report] >>96505740
How many anons in this thread are real and how many are the figments of our mind?
Anonymous No.96505740 [Report]
>>96505733
I want you in my mind
Snuggled up all close to me
Anonymous No.96505749 [Report] >>96505765
>>96505671
Literally everything in the setting is God-Script, aside from perhaps souls and divine power. Gifts and magic (and even mundane items) use the same power source. It's unreasonable to say that magic is somehow unbeatable, especially when we already know there are several abilities that can suppress or outright no-sell magic.
Anonymous No.96505765 [Report] >>96505812
>>96505749
No one spell is unbeatable, no one ability is unbeatable. Magic as a whole cannot be bypassed by one thing because that is literally one bypassing everything.
Anonymous No.96505767 [Report] >>96505772 >>96505780 >>96505785 >>96505786 >>96505798
Tankista kept it vague on which of the Aat/Erginter duo challenged the Elder Gods for power, but let's be real... Is it the one who had two Patrons or the one who essentially had none?
Anonymous No.96505772 [Report]
>>96505767
Also, the one who notoriously got mindfucked by Rucy.
Anonymous No.96505780 [Report]
>>96505767
Not the one characterized by a need to get stronger and high aggression.
Anonymous No.96505785 [Report]
>>96505767
Aat was fated to have the upper hand at least at first no matter what. Probability is skewed to him.
Anonymous No.96505786 [Report] >>96505791
>>96505767
On the other hand, Aat was specifically researching Empyreality, trying to grant it to everyone, and Eto was born from his last desire and seeks singlemindedly to False Ascend the entire Majin race as one god.
Anonymous No.96505791 [Report] >>96505907
>>96505786
>Eto
Ota, not sure how that typo happened.
Anonymous No.96505798 [Report]
>>96505767
Aat had been constantly fucked by the gods since the start. Even when things were going well for him they went to shit eventually and he only made things worse. It's entirely possible that when they were joined both their frustrations came together and one of them decided to rebel.
Anonymous No.96505812 [Report] >>96505822 >>96505832
>>96505765
it's
>cannot be blocked by magic
not
>nullifies all magic and also kills your cat
Anonymous No.96505822 [Report] >>96505831
>>96505812
Then why did you say that?
Anonymous No.96505831 [Report] >>96505844
>>96505822
I didn't you retarded autist.
Anonymous No.96505832 [Report] >>96505930
>>96505812
Nta but I think he means no effect should be absolute. If it can't be blocked by magic, that effect takes priority over the rules of all other magical effects. Such as if there was theoretically a caster that can make spells equivalent to more than 20 points of inborn gifts who designed a spell specifically and only to block your punch, it would still do jack shit.
Anonymous No.96505844 [Report]
>>96505831
Buuuuutttttt yyyyooooouuuuuuuu dddddiiiiiiddddddd???????????
Anonymous No.96505858 [Report] >>96505870 >>96505898 >>96505924
The bookclub style threads of anons tearing into an OC and trying to break it apart, are honestly my favorite times here.
Anons' schizophrenic mixtures of speedreading and ingenuity make for interesting interpretations I never would have thought about for several plot hooks in cyoas.
Anonymous No.96505870 [Report] >>96505884
>>96505858
I am pretty sure that's what all of the threads are supposed to be like
Anonymous No.96505884 [Report] >>96505894
>>96505870
Usually they're about authors and shitposting.
Anonymous No.96505894 [Report]
>>96505884
That’s because we’re populated by stupid, antisocial people who learned to be jackasses from SDA instead of learning how to make good cyoas
Anonymous No.96505898 [Report] >>96505910
>>96505858
We used to have similar thread in the TTRPG generals before 5e horribly damaged the community.
D&D 3.5 threads used to have completely Wild ideas being throw around all the time, but now-a-days they can barely justify being their own thread.
God I miss the 2010's. I wish someone would invent time-travel already.
Anonymous No.96505907 [Report]
>>96505791
Ota was spawned by one of Xian's spawns (ambiguous if this was Aatian or Origian) and respawned because Yphont gave her a Yee back in the day
Anonymous No.96505910 [Report] >>96505928
>>96505898
You need to act
It will get worse if you let it, but new things might be good
You were making mistakes back then that lead you to now
Anonymous No.96505924 [Report] >>96505946
>>96505858
The trick is giving autists something to sperg about in a healthy fashion.
Weirdly enough, having exploits in a CYOA is actually a Good thing so long as there's a.) No way to pick every option and b.) Enough of them that there are several OP builds rather than one build to rule them all.
On the setting/lore side, its all about knowing when to shut the fuck up. The things you come up with as an author will always be more boring than the shit autists will come up with while arguing with coked-up schizos on the boards, so the real trick is giving enough details to create interesting mysteries, but Not giving out easy answers.
Anonymous No.96505928 [Report]
>>96505910
My guy, I'm sitting pretty in early retirement at 28. I've genuinely made it. The things I miss are the cool shit the internet used to come up with. Making shit myself won't fix that, for the same reason becoming a forever DM doesn't scratch the itch of being a Player.
Anonymous No.96505930 [Report] >>96505967
>>96505832
I don't think you should, for example, be able to defeat bulletproof skin simply by making the bullet go faster. You should need to specifically counter the effect in some way.

In the same way, you should not be able to nullify this effect simply by making a shield stronger.
>if there was theoretically a caster that can make spells equivalent to more than 20 points of inborn gifts who designed a spell specifically and only to block your punch
They could design it to suppress or prevent the power from activating in the first place, prevent the strike from actually landing, or mitigate/disperse/redirect/absorb the damage done.
Anonymous No.96505946 [Report] >>96505971
>>96505924
>Weirdly enough, having exploits in a CYOA is actually a Good thing
This is what made Spirit Conscript so annoyingly immortal for a while.
I wonder if there'll ever be a cyoa author that does both mechanics autism and lore autism well. Authors only seem to be able to do one or the other for the most part.
Anonymous No.96505967 [Report] >>96506013
>>96505930
False equivalence. Bulletproof Skin defends against a limited set of things. It is not at all absolute against everything like the custom bleeding heart gesture.
Anonymous No.96505971 [Report] >>96505978
>>96505946
I would love if the one author that does the extremely autistic mechanics (the triangles and city layout one and the korean isekai style one) did his take on a deep lore setting.
Anonymous No.96505978 [Report] >>96505999 >>96506024
>>96505971
You mean Iceyblade? She sometimes does a little lore, but mechanics seem to be her passion.
Anonymous No.96505999 [Report]
>>96505978
Yeah. I had a lot of fun with those even if the Triangles were a little too freeform and the city one had harpy capitol as no contest the best once you actually tried to do the placements.
Anonymous No.96506013 [Report]
>>96505967
>it’s not the same because… BECAUSE IT JUST ISNT OK?
Alright lol
Anonymous No.96506024 [Report] >>96506030
>>96505978
His cyoas would be so much better if he focused on lore instead of what I suspect to be trolling by artificial complication of mechanics.
Anonymous No.96506030 [Report] >>96506049
>>96506024
The heart wants what the heart wants. If she likes mechanics autism that's what she makes, that's how all authors are.
Anonymous No.96506049 [Report] >>96506055
>>96506030
I have been baited into reading his lengthy intros only to be filtered by the mechanics too many times. ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)━
Anonymous No.96506055 [Report] >>96506106
>>96506049
My favorite of hers is the monster evolution one, personally. I've always wanted a CYOA devoted to fleshing the idea of branching and weaving evolutions out.
Anonymous No.96506102 [Report] >>96506105
>>96499115
>Ideal
Sage

>Blessings
Zalmoxis
City of God
Ascent
Noosphere
Bank of Souls
New and Old
The Land
Unity
Introduction
Metempsychosis
Aura

>Burdens
Billions Must Die
Shield of Sacrifice
I Would Win
Fear The Night
Deadline
Open Heart (Stalagmite in Zalmoxis)
Restless
The Impossible

>Races
Ancestral Spirits
Hybrid (Ancestral Spirit Dragons)
Hybrid (Plant Spirit + Earth Spirit = Nature Spirits)
Hybrid (Water Spirit + Wind Sprit + Fire Spirit = Weather Spirits)

>Follower Types
Civilian
Watchmen
Hunters
Medic
Neophyte
Bruiser
Craftsman
Minor spirits of gentle breezes, light rains, berry bushes, little gardens, small groves, rock stacks, and the spirits of those who died living a simple life, from the miners to the crafters, hunters, and the guards.
Paladins
Ranger
Druid
Artisan
Alchemist
Healer
Giant
Ritualist
Spirits of the Winds, clouds, and storms, with young dragons cut down in their youth, coming back, using their grand minds to arm the armies against the demons, with Forest, Desert, Canyon, Taiga, and more Spirits come to my aid.
Thaumaturge
Hierophant
Grandmaster
Elemancer
Resurrector
Colossus
The Fallen Dragons, old wyrms, and those in their prime come back to fight, as fallen Grandmasters come back to this world to purge the demons, as the Major Spirits of Summer, Spring, Autumn, and Winter rise to protect this world.

>Vassals
Pharas attacked Seoth due to a future they saw, only to lose when Sheoth did something unexpected, eliminating Pharas from the Corpse Lord's forces.
Giro died due to Ulman making a careless mistake, crushing him under a mountain of food.
Likinia was killed due to Bloody Mawth using his power on the wrong human, accidentally killing her.
Wayt died when Grend stepped on him after Larav nudged him into the dragon's way.
Doctor Aeclas, who died at the hands of a wind spirit that overcharged a curse he had inflicted on himself.
The Screeching Wyvern made some small gesture to Teles and got killed for it.
Anonymous No.96506105 [Report]
>>96506102
A Grandmaster will lead forces of mine with a Heirophant and Resurrector flanking them, with Paladins making up the bulk of my forces, as my crafters, artisans, and alchemists arm those fighting against the Archdemons, with the rifts guarded by such trios of purifying power, to ensure they don't get any footholds into the world. As my mind is open to all my followers, I let them see all the futures I envision, learn from everything in my mind, and discuss problems they face. I also encourage them to center themselves, preventing corruption from taking hold in my ranks as I guide their movements. Crafters led by Artisans working with Neophytes led by Ritualists, as Thaumaturges lead both groups, create wells of Arcane Power to empower the Ancestral Spirits and Spirit Dragons, while focused on making technology that can detect the corrupted, purge corruption, and target the weaknesses of the Demons. The Hunters and Rangers patrol my lands, as the Druids ensure the wilds are kept pure. For they are the forest spirits that watch over these wild lands, while the Grand Forest Spirits serve as Hierophants, watching vast tracks of land for Demons and corruption.

The souls of the dead guard the living, as the ghosts of the workers walks alongside the living workers, helping them in their jobs and sharing the wisdom earn in their past lives, as all souls in this world go to me, for I can do the ritual of Introduction to swell the ranks of my followers, for this will be my main way of doing so. As I live in a small home on a mountain that serves as my heart, for I am the Spirit of its Storm Crown, protected by a Grandmaster, Hierophant, and Resurrectors to ensure no corruption will ever reach it, as Elemancer Mountain Spirits put it, in the middle of an auroric channel. Elemancers will be Great Spirits of a great natural feature or element, with some dedicated to construction, building self-sustaining fortress cities to protect the faithful and followers.
Anonymous No.96506106 [Report] >>96506126
>>96506055
My favorite as well. The mechanics are thankfully sane. The various evolutions are amazing, unique among cyoas I believe, at least in scale. The starting locations and items are cool too.

I hope it will be updated to have more evolutions that branch out of the initial categories into others.
Anonymous No.96506126 [Report]
>>96506106
The ideal would be to have complete evolution lines (though this would be hundreds of entries) and more about the world itself we'll be exploring and evolving in to make it like other big world/setting CYOAs. But that's definitely not gonna happen, so yeah, just seeing even more categories and fun monsters and monster girls we could potentially turn into would be nice.
Anonymous No.96506158 [Report] >>96506165 >>96506176 >>96506192
>>96497551
Nilmatrix is the horse. Every horse.

>Both Iwynn and Gewrgin Aureole are victims of conspiracies and have horses in their portraits, as does Charlie. If we can ignore that it's just a foreshadow of their relationship with the latter, we should also consider the fact that Nilmatrix has to be doing something no matter what anon choses.
>The Empire is the most personal yet least omniscient of Charlie's political enemies in the Doria so there are all the reasons to take it down first.
>Nilmatrix is definitely a shapeshifter or master of disguise.
>Magic horses of any sort never mentioned among the many quirky fantasy deals in this world.
>However, we know that Empyreality is the equal opposite of Undeath, which is a state that can be applied to animals.
>Why wouldn't this be true for the former? And this must turn that animal into a special version of their natural state just like angels and humans.
Anonymous No.96506165 [Report] >>96506191
>>96506158
>All those anons trying to romance a horse
Anonymous No.96506176 [Report]
>>96506158
Dark Horse, Thoroughbred of Sin...
Anonymous No.96506191 [Report] >>96506199
>>96506165
I'm not trying to romance her, I'm trying to make her get close to me before realizing who I am so that Dobrova has the opportunity to involve me in the causality-murder. I want thay empreality.
Anonymous No.96506192 [Report]
>>96506158
>Her'v is the mane of a horse
>It's the treacherous letter that turned Mors to Pandemonium
Rhucuphre was the horse all along. That means that Nilmatrix is Rhucuphre!
Anonymous No.96506199 [Report] >>96506218
>>96506191
>Dobrova has the opportunity to involve me in the causality-murder
That literally only works for as long as you don't meet her. If she's involving you in the murder then her hacks are no longer valid. If you want that Empyreality you have to kill her the good old fashioned way yourself.
Anonymous No.96506218 [Report] >>96506235
>>96506199
In the dobrava hack, her encounters happen before she meets Gunter, not you. Because she's in Gunter's party. It wouldn't work at all if she were in yours.
Anonymous No.96506235 [Report] >>96506280 >>96506309
>>96506218
If Dobrava is Gunter companion then you don't have any guarantee that you are meeting her before she meets Gunter, you would need to personally find her somehow and then be always by her side until the events happens.
The exploit still doesn't make sense to me even if Tank said it was okay, how is it that both of them being in Gunter party would allow it to trigger with her killing Nilmatrix.
Anonymous No.96506280 [Report] >>96506308 >>96506309
>>96506235
I'm not trying to meet Dobrava before she meets Gunter. I'm trying to meet Nilmatrix before Dobrava ganks her.

True Love Nilmatrix + Dobrava hack does two things:

1. Nilmatrix is guaranteed to develop feelings for me at some point
2. Dobrava will resolve Shadow of God in the best possible way for me, before she meets Gunter

(1) likely requires that Nilmatrix be near me while disguised, so she can develop feelings for me. This gives Dobrava a reasonable opportunity to set it up where I land the kill instead of her, which would be even better by my standards than her getting the kill credit and the empyreality. So if it's even possible for me to kill Nilmatrix, Dobrava should arrange for it to happen in this scenario.
Anonymous No.96506308 [Report] >>96506313
>>96506280
If Nilmatrix needs to be on Gunter's party for the option to work then you cannot true love her, you only do it for your companions and mentors. And siblings, I guess.
Anonymous No.96506309 [Report]
>>96506235
>>96506280
Also the way the hack works is

1. Dobrava is in Gunter's party, so she's available to do her encounters. She needs to be in Gunter's party specifically because Shadow of God specifies that it happens after all your encounters are resolved, so Dobrava in your party can't do it -- all her haxx have to be spent by the time Shadow of God triggers. Dobrava in Gunter's party has no such restriction -- she can just wait to meet Gunter until after Shadow of God is resolved. She won't be in Gunter's party for any of your encounters, but that's fine, only Gunter himself is required to show up for your encounters.
2. Nilmatrix is in Gunter's party because someone needs to take Nilmatrix as a companion to meet the requirements for Shadow of God. It has to be Gunter specifically because otherwise you have to take Shadow of God as one of your encounters, which prevents it from being one of Dobrava's encounters. Gunter has to be at your encounters, and Dobrava has to do her things before meeting Gunter.
Anonymous No.96506313 [Report] >>96506560
>>96506308
Oh boo. I saw someone else true love a Gunter companion and assumed it worked without actually rereading the perk. There goes that idea.
Anonymous No.96506389 [Report] >>96506407
>>96499115
The setting of this is a bit perplexing, in that the intro suggests that it's taking place in our world, but then the race selection sounds like it's in a fantasy world instead, with elves, dwarves, etc. being an already-present part of it.

I want to put something together, just, the initial blessings + burdens are difficult. The burdens feel far more impactful than the blessings, in terms of how bad even these one-pointers would be in comparison to what you get from one point of blessing. "Followers always prioritize civilians over their own lives," versus "they can have kids," and so forth. Maybe I'm just overly pessimistic though, it seems like others are really loading up on the burdens, which seems rather crazy to me. (Although Demiplane does seem to make a very safe harbor available, perhaps to an unreasonable extent.)
Anonymous No.96506407 [Report]
>>96501968
>And like, how much later are we talking? Years? Decades? Centuries?
Sorry that I didn't see this earlier. It wouldn't be the same amount of time for all of them. For example, a very small portion could become Exemplars by the normal time, though that would mean that they would have regardless of not having Higher follower types. I'd guess you would have a sufficient portion of them to be a noticeable boon by a few decades in, but I don't know how many that would be.
Basically, I would think of it as those that would develop into a Regular or Higher follower type instead having it be put on hold until there is a type for them, which means it's not automatically making them all Exemplars but allowing those that wouldn't become so more time to improve whatever qualities are used by Heritage to give them a type.

>>96506389
Yeah, I kind of messed up that part. Essentially, I want the player to be able to make anything at all that they want by using myths from Earth and whatever could have been in the fantasy world before the Demons conquered it as justification. By connecting the worlds the demons have brought magic to Earth that has created magical creatures from what already exists there (barring technology as they have specifically prevented it).
Anonymous No.96506460 [Report]
>>96504686
Recovery Dispositions:
Pain (best hands-down in a fight) > Nutrition (no drawback, keeps you from getting fat) > Meditation (no resources needed, no downsides) > Alcohol (still lets you get drunk, which cripples you) > Sleep (prevents you from being able to defend yourself without other techniques) > Love (requires the active participation of another person, severely limits when and how you can do it, another person is a big glaring weakpoint for enemies to target)

Honestly the CYOA should pay you for being stuck with Alcohol, Sleep, or especially Love.
Anonymous No.96506525 [Report] >>96506528
>>96499115
One basic build to sketch out a possibility, the Techlord

Ideal: Sage, synergizes well

Blessings:
>New and Old.
Core component, and potentially pretty powerful; the demons are evidently limited themselves to preindustrial technology, and in most settings even ordinary modern tech has some sizeable advantages over compared to magic in terms of speed and distance of killing, let alone the futuristic technology it promises. I'm thinking demonkiller drones...goes well with
>City of God
To keep out medieval-era foes, provide staging platforms, and substantially, provide a simple multiplier to the natural rate of vril production. In turn, this pairs with
>Aura
Since followers will naturally be clustered in great walled cities, this will offer natural and automatic restoration to those within them, and provide a further barrier to effective penetration by demons.

Burdens...
>Open Heart
Seems the safest; since I'm making great, defensible cities anyway, Bit of a risky maneuver, since if the greatest city does manage to fall despite everything I/we would be pretty much screwed, but what can you do.

Almost want to take another one to pick up Gates, maybe Ethereal or I Would Win, but...eh, they all seem potentially quite dangerous.

Races:
>Humans
>Humanlike Angels
>Golem
Nothing too complicated here. I like angels, and to the extent that a plan relies on simple numbers of followers, humans easily round out the roster. Golems are best suited to technology.

Types, hell, I dunno...

Regulars:
>Civilian
>Archers, who of course are more like riflemen, and the core low-level military unit.
>Craftsmen and
>Miner, to aid in item and city construction.
>Mount is good, with Golem type could easily be vehicles.
>Watchmen I assume can also be equipped with guns, and are great at manning the walls.

Highers:
>Artisan
How does this interact with New and Old's technology, anyway? Given that my personal involvement is necessary?

(cont)
Anonymous No.96506528 [Report]
>>96506525
>Healer, always good to have somewhere on the list
>Scryer, need to get intel on demons to hit them from afar.
>Exceptional mount, for air vehicles.
>Jailor is probably good to have somewhere in the roster.
>Paladin. Not tremendous numbers of these, but it's good to have a smattering of people who can handle melee combat as well, and the additional demon-sensing abilities are highly desirable for home defense.
>Sapper. Lot of military building to do, they're the ones to do it, and
>Alchemist, supports my artisans and sappers.

Exemplar:
>General. Absolutely critical to have coordination and leadership.
>Teleporter. Vital given the overall plan of distributed core cities, especially since I didn't grab Gates. I hope technology (especially if supertech is achieved) could provide an alternative, but otherwise, rapid relocation of forces, and my own PERSONAL relocation to keep technology working and developed, has to be achievable without substantial transportation time or risk.
>Artillery. The high-power version of our riflemen. Whatever the technological means (missiles?), they can sit in the cities and rain down death from afar upon demons. We do have scryers, but present and future-tech observation satellite networks may also be able to provide the intel they need.
>Oracle. Little to be said about it, predicting the future in even a limited capacity is a benefit you can't refuse.
>Abjurer likewise, to be able to potentially shut down out-of-context abilities/defenses. Although the failure risk is evidently significant.
>Grandmaster. If all else fails, one or two in each city should be able to further shore up defenses against demonic abilities in a wide area.

Not going to make extensive plans per demon lord or anything, that seems a little bit much, but the overall plan is to resurrect a decent number of major cities where tech works, shuttle around between them, have followers play tower defense with demons.
Anonymous No.96506560 [Report] >>96506616
>>96506313
Technically, mindbreaking Nil into (effectively) True Love with the 11th Outsider is possible with Dobrava even when she's in Gunter's party. "Solve them in the best way along the lines you desire." Right there. Why wouldn't Love be the final straw that makes an angel rebel? There has to be a reason to why that it's the thing that Providence freely gifts.
Anonymous No.96506616 [Report]
>>96506560
0^0 immunized Nilmatrix from ever staying affected by True Love by teaching her modern feminist theory.
Anonymous No.96506627 [Report]
Physics aren't real, Charlotte
Anonymous No.96506672 [Report]
What martial art cyoa's do we have? Particularly non-wuxia, murim or xianxia ones, so more in the vein of stuff like Kengan, Baki, Hajime no Ippo, Street Fighter, Tekken, etc. etc. Below are the ones I already know off:
>Battle School
>Fighting Autisim
>The Fighting
>The Big Tournament
>Hidden World Tournament
>Be the Fighting Game Villain
>Kengan v1/v2
Anonymous No.96506819 [Report] >>96506843
Maoisara actually does have one extremely powerful niche for herself.

Grim Outlook and a C Death slot means she can create Ouk cursed items.
Anonymous No.96506830 [Report]
>>96499115
wtf I missed this by a day and half because Outer Reincarnation is still clogging up the threads
Anonymous No.96506841 [Report]
>>96505303
I can still fix her!
>t. Northern Prince
Anonymous No.96506843 [Report] >>96506904
>>96506819
>Grim Outlook and a C Death slot means she can create Ouk cursed items.
How good are those?
Anonymous No.96506863 [Report]
>>96493486
>>96499115
He's too hard on himself.
Outer Reincarnation is like Skyrim.
And Reverse Isekai Light Overlord is like Kingdoms of Amalur or Dragon's Dogma 1. All of them are very fun games, but everyone was still heavily focusing on Skyrim when those other two games came out in early 2012.
Anonymous No.96506904 [Report] >>96506965
>>96506843
If done right, they are 'cursing' the wielder to achieve the pinnacle of their craft and ascend to a higher level of existence, so quite good.

Come to think of it, Grim Outlook x2 allows to do this too.
Anonymous No.96506933 [Report] >>96506947 >>96506950 >>96506955
>be a pixie
>curse yourself with a whole arsenal of trinkets to every death letter except your own
>fate is too busy 'killing' you to actually kill you

Anons, I've cracked immortality.
Anonymous No.96506947 [Report] >>96506984
>>96506933
>dying every instant of all time
In other words, you die at the same moment you respawn and are never alive at any point in time despite respawning, because if you were you could die to your letter in that moment.
Anonymous No.96506950 [Report] >>96506984
>>96506933
So you just die all the time but not really?
Anonymous No.96506955 [Report]
>>96506933
0^0 wiped out Orthrung with a demon lord bomb that inflicted every possible death on a whole continent, fate would just find a way to inflict something similar on you.
Anonymous No.96506965 [Report]
>>96506904
Grim Outlook takes up eye slots though, Maiosara might be more cheaper if you only care about Ouk cursed items.
Anonymous No.96506984 [Report] >>96507017
>>96506950
>>96506947
Coupled with something Like All-Glimpse, Dobrava-like probability manipulation or a good understanding of fate gaming it to die in the way and time you want to dodge the final letter sounds doable. Requires a constant balancing act, but grants way more control over the matter.
Anonymous No.96507017 [Report] >>96507036 >>96507054
>>96506984
>Dobrava-like probability manipulation
Untimeskipped Charlie?
Anonymous No.96507036 [Report]
>>96507017
Or just Natalja, Dobrava's teacher.
Anonymous No.96507054 [Report]
>>96507017
Word of God seems to be the ability to intuitively know the path towards your chosen objective, you would still need to make sure that it happens. Natalja mathemagic should affect probability manipulation but it seems like Dobrava's case is unique in reach thanks to her autism.
Anonymous No.96507064 [Report]
I can't accept making a caster build without taking Eirina.
Anonymous No.96507075 [Report] >>96507099 >>96507114
If you take Charlie as a patron, then buy Everlasting, does she actually have to grant it to you if you make progress on your quest?
Anonymous No.96507099 [Report] >>96507114
>>96507075
Picking the Everlasting option probably gives it to you automatically after a certain milestone is reached for your personal quest, regardless of the chosen goddess. The only one who could realistically still give it out as a reward would be [YMRD] which she did to Omega, the rest are all limited in capability.
Anonymous No.96507114 [Report]
>>96507075
>>96507099
IIRC author said in reddit that it depends on the god. 0^0 would be bitch about it, [JNPL] lets Outsider system decide it, and other two grant it if you've advanced their agenda enough.
Anonymous No.96507148 [Report]
>>96499132
was there really a need to make the text on this last page so small?
Anonymous No.96507199 [Report] >>96507244
When you make the new thread please put rilo as the op image
Thanks
Anonymous No.96507205 [Report] >>96507216 >>96507245 >>96507285 >>96507727
>>96498657
How the FUCK, do i survive this? Besides taking the rewind death option (which may just make you fall down and die again), and maybe Endurance III?
Anonymous No.96507214 [Report] >>96507249 >>96507260
>>96497551
Was Jdan's "dear friend" that he lost Dirk? I can't imagine it being anyone else, but how could the Old Throne possibly have good enough relations with Malkuth for them to have been able to become friends?
Anonymous No.96507216 [Report]
>>96507205
immovable object
Anonymous No.96507244 [Report] >>96507310
>>96507199
No I'm going to be a shitter just like the asshole who made this thread and put something random as OP.
Anonymous No.96507245 [Report] >>96507256
>>96507205
Take Rariel and wait for her to revive you. Encounters are guaranteed to meet you and will be strongly motivated to help you when you meet, so maybe she'll allow a freebie.
Anonymous No.96507249 [Report] >>96507278
>>96507214
It's the Eldar bounty hunter who went in pursuit of Keter's party.
Anonymous No.96507256 [Report] >>96507283
>>96507245
>Encounters [...] will be strongly motivated to help you when you meet
Where does it say that?
But even then, that's just relying on her whim, which is pretty damn bad.
Anonymous No.96507260 [Report] >>96507278 >>96507379
>>96507214
It was a random thousand years old eldar elf who got killed by Keter and her merry band in their heist. He was father of Vesryn
Anonymous No.96507266 [Report] >>96507284 >>96507291
New thread?
Anonymous No.96507278 [Report] >>96507295
>>96507249
>>96507260
Thanks for the explanation.
Anonymous No.96507283 [Report]
>>96507256
>you'll meet them under friendly circumstances and they'll be strongly motivated to help you - but there's no permanent guarantee of loyalty, so take each Encounter's morals and personality into account when making your plans.
Anonymous No.96507284 [Report]
>>96507266
Do something to earn it
Anonymous No.96507285 [Report] >>96507296
>>96507205
Becoming prototype goo from blue mage would let you live but youd be a puddle of goo inside of a giant obvious crater.
Anonymous No.96507291 [Report]
>>96507266
too early
Anonymous No.96507295 [Report]
>>96507278
He's also the guy who found the missing transcription of the text to bring Vtorusha back according to the Autonomous Warmachina race page.
Anonymous No.96507296 [Report]
>>96507285
This one could work, but it's unclear. It has the "force of a tactical nuclear weapon", which may be enough to kill you.
Anonymous No.96507310 [Report] >>96507368
>>96507244
go fuck yourself with a horse sized dildo, how was i supposed to know an oc was posted last thread if the author did not even mention it was oc and was all downed out by OR discussion
Anonymous No.96507314 [Report]
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>>96507312
>>96507312
>>96507312

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Anonymous No.96507323 [Report] >>96507340 >>96507367 >>96507399
>>96497551
How can I make Uruks sentient? I want to start an Uruk civilization.
Anonymous No.96507340 [Report]
>>96507323
Half the uruk builds want to.
Anonymous No.96507367 [Report]
>>96507323
why the fuck would you put a soul into one of those abominations
Anonymous No.96507368 [Report]
>>96507310
>fuck yourself with a horse sized dildo
so you're a /trash/ immigrant, got it. Please keep your perversion to yourself while here. This is a general for good church-going citizens in good standing.
Anonymous No.96507379 [Report]
>>96507260
Vesryn should really have Auburn as a language.
Anonymous No.96507383 [Report] >>96507393 >>96507405 >>96507420
>bringing Vtorusha back
This is a really bad idea. You have to make the world meet certain (unknown) conditions.
The muddish tried it before and almost destroyed the world.
Anonymous No.96507393 [Report] >>96507397
>>96507383
1. Almost
2. Imagine the head
Anonymous No.96507397 [Report] >>96507406
>>96507393
It's almost only because Savmak stopped them, see Savmak's profile on page 21.
Anonymous No.96507399 [Report]
>>96507323
That's probably as hard as creating an entire new race that reproduces just like them.
Anonymous No.96507405 [Report]
>>96507383
It's already meeting them without any effort of your part. The Second War of Heaven and Earth is upon us.
Anonymous No.96507406 [Report] >>96507412
>>96507397
Thats what savmak thinks
I think it would work
Anonymous No.96507412 [Report] >>96507421
>>96507406
It's what JNPL/outsider system thinks; only Keter wrote her own profile
Anonymous No.96507420 [Report] >>96507434 >>96507478
>>96507383
Considering the only reason the choice isn't available to us now is the missing piece, then it probably required a pillar to be cast down or something similarly apocalyptic. Just get the dust out of Dirk's eyes and you should be good to go.
Anonymous No.96507421 [Report]
>>96507412
That's what JNPL/The outsider system thinks
I could pull it off
Anonymous No.96507434 [Report] >>96507458
>>96507420
> Dirk's eyes
his what, now?
Anonymous No.96507458 [Report] >>96507472 >>96507485
>>96507434
That's where the piece of the Old Throne stolen by Keter is. Ground to dust and applied to his eyes. That's also the reason why he got the All-Glimpse and turned insane.
Anonymous No.96507472 [Report]
>>96507458
>turned insane
Thats rude.
Anonymous No.96507478 [Report] >>96507500
>>96507420
I feel like Jdan would have already done this if it were a good idea
Anonymous No.96507485 [Report] >>96507488 >>96507500 >>96507529
>>96507458
...I was sure it was said somewhere that those with All-Glimpse do not have eyes, but it's not in the text of All-Glimpse. Did I imagine it?
Anonymous No.96507488 [Report] >>96507511
>>96507485
>...I was sure it was said somewhere that those with All-Glimpse do not have eyes
No? They're blind, but they still have eyes.
Anonymous No.96507500 [Report] >>96507511 >>96507512
>>96507478
Never said it was, but even if he did want to do it he would need to kill the the king of the nation he's currently at war with who also has precognition, get the dust out and reassemble it. Something hard to do without Outsider help.
>>96507485
He still has eyes, he's just blind normally. We even have two cases of artificially made All-Glimpse users.
Anonymous No.96507511 [Report]
>>96507488
>>96507500
Alright, so I imagined it.
Anonymous No.96507512 [Report]
>>96507500
Doesn't Jdan already know what was on the Old Throne?
Anonymous No.96507519 [Report] >>96507526 >>96507529
Charlie is a descendant of One
Anonymous No.96507526 [Report]
>>96507519
One had no descendants, she's a descendant of Mithra
Anonymous No.96507529 [Report]
>>96507485
Having All-Glimpse requires having both eyes, according to the Missed Shape description.

>>96507519
Mithra, not Bob. He had no kids.
Anonymous No.96507579 [Report] >>96507651 >>96507655 >>96507684
I can't decide if panarmament x3 or god hand x3 is better for a warmachina build. Blessing your mech is probably pretty good, right?
But so is being able to summon any tool to work on your mech...
Anonymous No.96507651 [Report]
>>96507579
God Hand, you need materials to work with too, and if the work is small enough to not need materials keeping a box of basic tools in the mech/with you will do. And x3 will boost the power of you permanent blessing.
Anonymous No.96507655 [Report]
>>96507579
Take God Hand x3, Stigmata, Devout Signature and have SRTR pretend to be your machine spirit.
Anonymous No.96507684 [Report] >>96507806
>>96507579
Neither, warmachina "prevent usage of inborn gifts requiring touch by their riders."
Go for mind gifts instead, max out your mind. Its better to upgrade a warmachina with r&d than go for one time inborn gifts.
Anonymous No.96507727 [Report]
>>96507205
To quote the cyoa when you have selected Immovable Object.
>Just parry it, you filthy casual.
There are likely many other ways to deal with it. Some other possibilities are Heritage: Abstract(the one with the corrupted text) and Greater Pedigree: Phoenix. There are likely a few others too.
Anonymous No.96507806 [Report]
>>96507684
That's talking about the warmachina's arms and legs. You couldn't bless things with the warmachina's hands.
Since (you) are actually inside of the warmachina, your physical body would obviously able to touch it.