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>30k TACTICA & TIPS
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『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』
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>What size magnets do I need?
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>Thread Question:
What kind of pictures do you like to see in the OP?

has anyone actually got pics of these guys

Eidolon was actively harmed by his depiction in the BL novels and Saul's achievements are therefore lessened.

>>96505504
Never liked Skorr's helmet. Like his armor and pose though.

>>96505515
thanks for the name but now im disappointed i thought it was just really good freehand </3

>>96505529
LOL

Volkites or combi-volkites for Lerneans?

>>96505542
The cheapest option. Maybe a cbeamer if you're feeling frisky

Legions for this feel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znY4ZoEEYdw

Printing and building a full starport landing pad + cityfight type terrain for a table. Also done the control towers, defense network and ruined habs.Going to spoil my club for 3.0

>>96505577
Does it have an elevator?

>>96505577
Very cool anon.
Cityfight is the peak way to war game.
Shame hh 3.0 terrain/cover rules are genuinely the most dogshit i have ever seen them produce, but easy to house rule at least.

What is the best target for a dreadnought?

>>96505588
Elevator each side and the top is modular and comes off with the center square of fully removable to put stuff in the control room ZM style. big enough to hide a warhound or larger knights behind it.

>>96505577
>>96505621
extremely cool

>>96505614
Varies by dread and weapon. A double melta levi doesn't have the same ideal targets as a boxnaught

my master of signals just gets really excited whenever a challenge is declared

>>96505621
Oh sweet, are you going to paint it? If so, how are you planning on stopping the paint from coming off in high wear areas?

>>96505652
Because he knows he's about to die?

>>96505665
hes got the live feed from Alpharius' gopro

>>96505577
>>96505621
could you point me at where you procured these files kind anon?

Finished assembling the last three vehicles for my armoured list, now to paint everything so its not just the Fellblade that's done.
What do you think anons, should I try to force in a land raider too? Or is this already too many tanks. The rest of my list is just light infantry and some techmarines.

>>96505681
>interesting, it seems that alpharius is holdinga dataslate

>>96505681
>switches to stream
>it's his own camera feed
>looks up
>sees 5 ruinstorm sovereigns flying st him
>liveleak logo pops up in corner of the stream

Will I get bullied if my Alpha Legion uses all the colors?

>>96505764
Yes

What range of colors cam a space wolf be

>>96505764
yeah

>>96505711
Christ, man. Leave some for the rest of us. I was kinda proud of my Rhino, though I know I went too hard on the grim, but now I feel like a child. And I was originally making a Razor and stupidly glued the top door, I take it off for HH now but figured I may as well paint the damn Las

Also how the hell did you take pictures in The Void?

>>96505614
Don't wolves not like Leviathans?

>>96505660
Like the rest of my terrain current project, worm and dirty concrete for that grim feel. 3 coats of varnish at different stages of painting protects it like a tank.

>>96505637
Cheers anon

>>96505705
siege of Castograde STL set

>Local is setting up a 3.0 startup with a fair few people interested
>Starting a new army even with my reserve kits would be ~$115 for bodies, ~$60 for bits, ~$150 for big models probably
I just don't want to anymore.

>>96505805
Your rhino looks awesome anon, I love the field modifications! My rhinos both double up as missile tanks. I kind of wish Razorbacks existed in 30k but oh well.

To take pictures in the void like that I use an app called pixelcut, it's super handy to remove backgrounds from model pics.

>>96505805
Fuck sakes. Hope this works. This side still needs work anyway so if it goes sideways maybe it won’t look so shitty

>>96505807
Likes and dislikes went out the window during the heresy due to necessity

>>96505818
Those look like the IG buildings from DoW 1

>>96505819
>warhammer is expensive
Gee, who would've thought? Goy anymore insights?

>>96505711
delicious 500 worlds blueberries

>>96505805
>>96505833
You're being too harsh on yourself anon, I like it. Nice and grimdark. Looks a rhino that's been through some shit, could totally picture it bulldozing over a trench.

>>96505850
Clearly I need more teal lmao, they're AL. They're way brighter in person and with real lighting, I took that pic on a rug in my basement.

>>96505821
Thank you for the kind words and the advice. That app sounds really handy, I don’t mind showing parts of my hobby space but it has shit light so I’m relegated to it for pictures cause I’m paranood. Cheers!

Also spaceport anon
>>96505621
This is so fuckin cool. The elevator…moves!?! If so, even more so! You should make it Mass Effect 1 Normandy slow for comedic affect aha

would (you) turn your nose up at terrain modelled off of some OG dawn of war structures implemented for 30k?

>>96505819
Get a printer buddy.
I've started a new Scars army, and it's legit more expensive to buy paint than print the models.
Admittedly I already had a xiphon recast just sitting there, but by and large.
Biggest problem is the tacs, I can't be fucked printing 20, so may want to buy those second hand.

>>96505874
Quite the contrary

>>96505867
Even better! the orange pops and will look great against bright silver or white hydra decals.

>>96505900
Thanks anon, I appreciate your kind words. I'm looking forward to getting the rest of the guys weathered up, especially my cursed venator kitbash.

>>96505929
Please tell me the silver bit is just some masking putty and not how it actually looks

Are squads of 5 terminators useful or should you always be in squads of 10?

>>96505764
Thanks doc

>>96505949
Squads of 5 are likely the best way to take them. They fit into a LR nice and snug with space for an attached character or two, they're tough enough that you need dedicated anti-termie firepower to take them down which might result in ineficcient overkill, you get better bang for your buck thanks to the sergeants, they're easier to move aorund the table, you avoid buying a Spartan, etc.

>>96505949
There only thing Terminators are useful for fighting are Terminators, and whoever has more Terminators wins (because they'll all be equipped the same, with thunder hammers), why would you ever not take 10

>>96505942
Yes, its keeping the cables in place till I find a good bit to use there. I'm hoping to find something vaguely like the field emitters on power swords

>>96505975
could always make a cover out of plasticard

>>96505982
What's your tool of choice for plasticard? I tried using the saw I use for resin and it made a very jagged cut. Is it just a million passes with the exacto knife?

>>96505994
hobby knife, dremel, or asaw with the teeth much closer together

>>96506004
Sweet, thanks for your advice anon, I'll make sure to post the venator when I've updated it

There's no way to get a prime slot terminator squad, unless you use legion specific terminators that take up a retinue or elite slot?
Lame

>>96506015
there's also legion-specific detachments. Not like primes benefit termie squads anyways, at best you get a master sarge

>>96506023
But a master sergeant terminator is cool

>Thousand Sons prime slot isn't troops only like I thought
Hee hee it's not as good as any of the other options but making a prime unit floating is pretty funny.

I posted this last thread with my newer Scouring and updated 2.5 docs. I'll shill it one more time for feedback purposes.

Oh yeah, there was a Crimson Fists guy in here not too long ago. I got rules for CF for him to look at in the aforementioned Scouring doc if he ever comes back.

https://gofile.io/d/uMkuRV

How tall are these wizard niggas? Though they might be ridiculously ornate for 30k and will probably need some cleaning, I'm looking into kitbashing opportunities for psyker-adjacent HQs.

>>96506114
Fantastic job on fixing the AL anon, the operative looks so much more fun to take now, and you've managed to do a great job rebalancing the rites of war. The only thing I would fix is to let the forked Tongue RoW let you take veterans as troops so they can get infiltrate too (I think it fits the flavor of the RoW better but its up to you).
Good job!

>>96505652
He just found diamonds in minecraft

>>96505471 (OP)
I like playing "where's the hidden anime and bad EC conversion"

>>96505621
damn I want this in resin

Reminder that Khan hates bikes and would rather be on a horse instead

>>96506171
>How tall is...?
minicompare dot info

>>96506182
Thank ye sir. I took them out of troops in case it was still too strong. One of my armies is AL so I will test it out and see what's up and possibly put it back. Attempting to avoid the trap of overwriting my own faves.

>>96505968
Are they not slow tho? Especially cataphractii

>>96506250
The scale autism is so off the charts, also you cannot compare models in different poses for scale, it creates a false contrast

Is this model too "chunky off brand 3d print" for a Legate for my SA?

>>96506250
What a shitty website.

>>96506377
Not too chunky; SA armies have a billion dudes, it will blend in fine with the right paint job

>>96506114
I realized I had left a couple things unfinished in the word bearers and iron warriors sections. Got those fixed, my bad.

>>96506377
there is not a single stl line that looks good for solar aux

Talk me out of this weapon loadout on a squadron of 3 or 4 speeders

>>96506630
No.

>>96506377
No, have you seen the recent praetors lately? Large and in charge

>>96506630
for anti infantry? go ahead

but for me I use them in an anti tank role, they're extremely fast and can pack multi meltas, grav guns and HK missiles

>>96505968

Man, I wish I could apply this logic to all my listbuilding. I need to kill X, Y kills X, therefore max out every unit of Y, points no concern. All the men of the Legiones Astartes eventually met to decide the heresy in a great stadium built of upturned Spartans, duly clad in Cataphractii plate and carrying their mighty thunder hammers.

The nice part about hammernators is that they also do an all-right job of killing basically anything, so five of them will happily dismantle whatever you need dismantled until checked.

I may have been underestimating Scyllax and their silly jellyfish tentacles. If you buff them and get the charge, eleven of them will happily kill more Justaerin than the Justaerin kill of them, and same goes for almost any other elite terminator. Might even be worth cramming eleven of them and a minder into the Macrotekmobile and shoving them up the board, that's only about 330-360pts plus transport and can make a good attempt at sweeping any infantry unit other than 5-10 elite termies with a serious character attached, although feedback will do a number on them afterwards and cause nearly as many casualties as the 5-man justaerin squad did. Probably acceptable at 25ppm, people don't really expect the Mechanicum to run at them.

>>96506765
Their anti tank options are ridiculously expensive

> be aux fag
> take legatine command section
> take line command section
> put legate marshal into rifle section
> park on objective, buff to line (3)
> hide lifewards 3.1" inside corner terrain, killing marshal now doesn't give up VP

cool fluffy narrative game, can't wait for 4th edition

>>96506999
Yeah, sergeants with artificer armour jumping in front of the 20 krak missiles headed for his tactical squad was way better.

>>96506999
>My opponent surely won't kill my VP battery unit because I'm denying him 2 (TWO!) victory points with another unit
>My opponent surely won't run a single barrage weapon
>My opponent surely won't have any of his own line units to take other objectives

>>96506630
Is you take them in units of 2 and you give the second one a grav gun instead of a havoc launcher you get 2 status effects per unit, which is pretty nice. 3 if you take a heavy flamer tho that requires getting a lot closer and might not be worth it

>>96507015
> reacts 0.1" away from your vanguard unit

wow so immersive, forging a cool narrative

>>96506999
half terrain painted, no L shapes, somehow better than 40k

>>96507052
What is wrong with L shaped terrain made out of clear plexiglass anon :^)

This is absolutely retarded AHHHHH

>>96507059
There's even clear objective markers now.

>>96507093
clear terrain
clear objectives
clear bases
might as well play in the theater of the mind

How faggy would it be to run 2 fire raptors, 2 storm eagles and thunder hawk transport in one list?

>>96507111
Based/10

>>96507015
Sound like a problem that would be fixed by playing an older edition.

So why did GW kill anti infantry sponsons? Was the ability to shoot a single heavy bolter at a different target without destroying your main gun's accuracy so oppressive?

>>96507046
Do stacked statuses get cleared by a single vox check?

>>96507171
No, just one. Almost makes it preferable to have units be Routed, because it clears all other status effects.

>tfw rolling double six for an important unit's status checks four times in a row last game

>>96507089
Related to this, if anyone here has the resin castellax with the buzzsaws, can you please post it?
I'd like to see something
It feels like theres a piece missing, these are are super stubby

>Haru Urara died
nyooooooooo....

>>96507298
Exploded from too much grass

>>96507298
100,000 haru urara threads on her honor

Oh yeah now we're cookin with gas

>>96506250
that website is the worst built website I've seen the last 20 years. It's entirely worthless. Dogshit controls, it's just basic pictures and you can't simply drag models around and position them, literally inferior to MSPaint and thats literally its only job

>>96507327
Would one just run all these dudes around individually?
Only vehicles can split fire and even then split-firing nerfs the shit out of their damage output so I feel like it would do a good job of wasting a lot of enemy shooting.
Your damage output is basically nil though, the only thing you can do is kill light to medium infantry.

>>96505405
Someone saved my Deliverers, neat.

>>96507453
>the only thing you can do is kill light to medium infantry
They can take combi-weapons, melta bombs and TH, they can be annoying to pretty much everything

>>96507453
>Your damage output is basically nil though, the only thing you can do is kill light to medium infantry
This particular version of the list is equipped with jump packs, an even split of thunder hammers/power fists, and the Um Boarding shields
They can threaten a lot of stuff

>>96507537
UM boarding shields having no restrictions is pretty ridiculous

>>96507554
Boarding Shield chaplains chilling out in breacher squads is actually hot, cl11 means you're basically never moving and clearing statuses 97% of the time

God bless Chinamen but not too much because they forgot my storm shields.

>>96507565
I'm still mad Chaplains are just a stat block. So sterile and shrimplified.

>>96507593
They're solid beatsticks against MEQ too, especially veteran statlines

>>96507593
Chaplain should give the unit he is with vanguard

Tell me how that wouldn't be fluffy as fuck

>>96507629
Ok that's a pretty cool compromise. Even cooler if it just somehow layers a Vanguard 1 effect, so that the unit still scores normally.

>>96507649
What about after a successful charge, chaplain and the attached unit gain vanguard 3 until the end of the assault phase.
No silly shooting to score vanguard shenanigans, promotes maximum aggression, but can still score normally.

>>96507593
>>96507629
It's supposed to be a morale officer. CL10 is a pretty huge buff when most things only have CL7. It helps both ranged and melee units
Vanguard is not always useful to have

>>96507664
Personally don't have a problem with how chaplains are now, because as you said they're morale officers and legion police rather than the religious zealots that they become in 40k. For 80 points it's also an absolute steal of a command choice.
But can understand why people are upset and confused about the changes to chaplains.

>>96507664
I feel like he should also let the unit test at the start of the turn (like a nuncio vox) so you can clear status effects before they affect you instead of after.
Some kind of immunity or resistance to modifiers would be cool too, a chaplain should have enough willpower to not give a shit about flamers

Are Mechanicum any fun in Zone Mortalis? I have no desire to build a full army but their Combat Force box has all their minis I like so I wanted to buy one or maybe even two, add some Thralls and call it a day by ending up with a 1000pts army.

>>96507662
That's pretty baller. Clean functionality, solid limitation. 10/10.

>>96507664
I understand how it works in the 3e environment and is solid. However, Chaplains losing Zealot and Litanies of Hate to be super dad with blankies, drink boxes, and a calm soothing voice is not how I picture them. I know the abstraction is spiritual leader and that's how it translates, but to go from Hatred and Zeal to "Emperor Protects" is BORING.

>>96507593
get ready for 4.0, he won't even have wargear options

>>96507685
>like a nuncio vox
That could have been another way to differentiate them from just a stat block
>Special Rules: None
Makes me irrationally angry

>>96507694
>Chaplains losing Zealot and Litanies of Hate
But that's literally not what they are though. In heresy chaplains are psychic police with a side job of therapy and advisory positions.

>>96507688
ZM rules don't exist in 3.0. Mech are awesome in 1.0 ZM. In 2.0 ZM they have basically a single good build and are way less fun than 1.0.

>>96507694
Hatred and Zeal is pretty much copy pasted from 40k which is not what they are supposed to be. It's just that GW never made up their mind as to why they even exist in 30k to begin with

>>96507688
Zone Mortalis rules for 3.0 aren't out yet.
In the older editions mechanicum could be very oppressive to play against in ZM, depends on the units.

>>96507711
They've been Zealots since their first printing in the original black book.

>>96507716
>It's just that GW never made up their mind as to why they even exist in 30k to begin with
They never made up their mind as to why they exist in 40k either. When supposedly most marine chapters don't worship the emperor.
It only makes sense to have a Zealot leader on black templar style chapters but for some reason they are an integral part of the codex organization, written when worshiping the emperor was basically a crime...

>>96507714
>>96507722
Oh, I hoped ZM translates to 3E since it's mostly about the list-building restrictions.
What about smaller games of standard HH3 then? If I find anyone willing to play 1000pts games with me, are they any enjoyable or is HH one of those games that has to be played big to actually work?

>>96507808
game sucks at 1k. There's no room to avoid skew and do anything interesting fighting over 3 objective circles with so few units. Win or loss just gonna be instantly determined at army-building stage.

>>96507808
Mechanicum in 3.0 is the most balanced it has ever been, both between its own units and against other factions.
In 1.0 mechanicum was one of the overpowered cheese factions, and in 2.0 the units were either hot garbage or overpowered with no reasonable inbetween.

>>96505515
I bought the bit for a conversion.