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Anonymous No.96507319 [Report] >>96507325 >>96508695
>>96507312 (OP)
Anonymous No.96507325 [Report] >>96507332
>>96507319
Anonymous No.96507332 [Report] >>96507335
>>96507325
Anonymous No.96507335 [Report]
>>96507332
fin.
Anonymous No.96507352 [Report] >>96507363 >>96507686
Peak incoming. Tankista who? Entropistanon who?
Anonymous No.96507363 [Report]
>>96507352
blue
Anonymous No.96507441 [Report] >>96507470 >>96507474
>>96507312 (OP)
Can someone compile the builds for this?
Anonymous No.96507470 [Report] >>96507670 >>96507708 >>96507779
>>96507441
>Sage + New and Old
>Sage + New and Old
>Sage + New and Old
>Sage + New and Old
Anonymous No.96507474 [Report] >>96507598 >>96509013
>>96507441
In chronological order.
1 https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96487358#96494061
2 https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96487358#96494853
3 Ultimate Manipulator: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96487358#96494973
4 https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96487358#96495090
5 Wild Hunt: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96497495#96499342
6 Giant of Nature: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96497495#96506102
7 Techlord: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96497495#96506525
Anonymous No.96507598 [Report] >>96508841 >>96508858
>>96507474
Who wins pvp?
Anonymous No.96507670 [Report]
>>96507470
It turned out, that a dude with a machine gun which can see the invisible was more powerful than a dude with a literal longbow who has above average eyesight (see : Archer). Flummoxing, I know
Anonymous No.96507686 [Report]
>>96507352
Yellow
Anonymous No.96507708 [Report] >>96507744 >>96513634
>>96507470
Having guns, airplanes, missiles, napalm, etc while still having magic is extremely strong, especially so if the enemies have only medieval era tech.
The other isekai dark overlord CYOA made that option cost like 4 points for a reason.
Anonymous No.96507733 [Report] >>96507754 >>96509324 >>96509379 >>96509495 >>96512146
https://altcyoaisekaitheend.neocities.org/
Anonymous No.96507744 [Report] >>96507777
>>96507708
It cost two points in IDO too, but it also had a slow ramp-up and required actual inventing, so it was mostly picked by people unable to read.
Anonymous No.96507754 [Report] >>96507804 >>96508160
>>96507733
So you can get a LOT of Threads if you just turn some "minor countries" into Tokland.
I hate the fact that interactives hide options until you select other stuff so much.
Anonymous No.96507757 [Report]
Rolled 1, 1, 3, 1, 2, 1 = 9 (6d3)

>>96507312 (OP)
Finally, some more kino. I'm going to make a build for this, but first, I'll leave which Archdemons' minions I have to deal with up to chance. Rolls are left-to-right in sequential order.
Anonymous No.96507777 [Report] >>96507792
>>96507744
Slow ramp-up is not too relevant if your kingdom can endure, plus you've got infinite retries unless you manage to somehow screw up very badly. You have to try hard to place yourself in an unsalvageable situation in that CYOA.
Anonymous No.96507779 [Report]
>>96507470
It's your own planet Earth, full of people that miss modern technology for every possible reason, why wouldn't you want to keep the same things that you and everyone else loves?
Anonymous No.96507792 [Report]
>>96507777
>You have to try hard to place yourself in an unsalvageable situation in that CYOA.
lmao you underestimate the depth of skill issues that anons have, they were bawling about the difficulty when the update was released
Anonymous No.96507804 [Report] >>96507807
>>96507754
…Where is that? I have never seen a so called divine history choice wtf.
Anonymous No.96507807 [Report]
>>96507804
From my testing, you'll need to select any Lewder Sights choice, plus World: Cursus Honorum. Then, it'll show up.
Anonymous No.96507845 [Report] >>96507894 >>96507936 >>96509993
>Bullets do nothing against anything that's not a jobber
>Spend 50 years making a nuke only so it gets stolen and used against you
Techfags lost
Anonymous No.96507847 [Report]
Can you just God Hand x2 for curse resistance or immunity and then Grim Outlook for free Gift equipment for your allies by giving them the God Hand x2 curse resistance?
Anonymous No.96507894 [Report] >>96508747
>>96507845
Ok, so then by that logic, Archers and Regular-tier shitters without tech are even more useless, because they're still useless against the non-jobbers, and on top of that, can't even have the decency of clearing out the jobber hordes fast enough you can deal with the rest of their bullshit.
Anonymous No.96507936 [Report] >>96507954 >>96507991 >>96508200
>>96507845
Why would I even need a nuke?
Just throw radioactive waste through the portal, and they, not knowing what it is, will have their lifespans halved by the funny rock
Anonymous No.96507954 [Report] >>96507979 >>96508200
>>96507936
I really don't think that demons are weak to radiation poisoning. These are evil spirit demons that probably don't even have genes.
Anonymous No.96507979 [Report] >>96508000
>>96507954
They almost certainly have delicate processes in there somewhere which may be harmed by a sudden and uneven addition of energy
Most of them seem to be particularly advanced and all systems, robotic and biological, become weak to radiation when they need a complex store of data (Both dna and mechanical stores fall to this, but smarter computers may encrypt their info in ways that protects against this)
Anonymous No.96507991 [Report] >>96508009
>>96507936
They don't even have vitals anon, radiation will be 100000000x more deadly to humans than to them, you're just giving them ammo.
Anonymous No.96508000 [Report] >>96509154
>>96507979
>the fantastical magical beings must follow these rules of real life biology and robotics
kek, do techfags really?
Anonymous No.96508006 [Report] >>96508012 >>96508034 >>96508059 >>96508289 >>96509003 >>96509366 >>96509879 >>96510496 >>96510581 >>96513429
https://imgchest.com/p/5xy22anpnyl
https://rentry.org/outer_reincarnation_information

>Chronological Build List
A Hero of Justice https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96479399
Moonman https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96459760
Wanderer above the Sea of Fog https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96480941
Speedster Spider https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412603
Demonic Nightmare Maker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96487358/#96493315
The Black Messiah (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430522
Flagellant Gambler https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96411399
The Jötunnsdrottninggen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381145
Ithyl Twynis https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96381847
Y'Sereth, King among Kings https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382717
Queen of Mamet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96378482/#96382899
Orkhalorkhan https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415856
Father of the Paracausal Arts https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96452392
The Wandering Professor (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96428837
Vëe the Dream Librarian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96393021
Demon King of the Dead (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96386307/#96391919
Krinak, Syn Ufroka https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96399372
The Book of the Damned https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96426011
Ҁ Ф ʌ https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96459503/#96467167
Faina Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96447556
Unnotable Lich https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96479706
Escher https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96395910
Foolish Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96398017
Vai https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96399427
Mer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96392972/#96400248
Anonymous No.96508009 [Report]
>>96507991
If they don't have internal processes what would a 2cm hole do to them?
Why cut them apart if they can just stick back together?
If they don't have vitals they can only be killed by magic, in which case, just bless the radiation and move on
Anonymous No.96508012 [Report] >>96508017
>>96508006
Aurum Arc the Golden Finger https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96400560
Red Drakonid (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96429221
King of The Exarchate (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96416022
Qarg the Conqueror https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404302
Son of Man (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96395536/#96404724
The Inquisitor https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96406963
Ultimate Scholar (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407218
Student https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407496
The Return of the King (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96407523
Liriel, The Veilbreaker https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96451577
Balrog the Emerald King https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427173
One-Woman Band https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412498
Ellavan "Ella" Aureole (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96406340/#96412568
Ren, Demon Lord of SRTR https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415916
HeWillWin https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96414214/#96415920
Goku Sasuke Master Chief Kakarot https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96427458
Zyneheart https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96423015
Numerological Demon Lord https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96447883
Manusya, the Unwritten https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96425679
Fir Dahort https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96422333/#96428141
Warlord (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96430436
Liadan - Unbegotten Dreamer https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96463819
He`el https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96426634/#96431341
Rozir, the Vagabond King of Hexen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445292
Neophyte Sevastian https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96445422
Anonymous No.96508017 [Report]
>>96508012
Avi - Demonic Dragon Sage https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96440992/#96446382
The Silk Matron https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96452816
The White Prophet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96447166/#96454351
Led https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96458991
Aphainoumenos, Last Demon Prince https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96459966
Ars Goetia https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96454608/#96461924
Thaumaradrak https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96468757/#96471990
Valar https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96459503/#96471461
Prince Aureole https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96477816
Rap God https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96479391
Common Man https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96480067
Alfrent (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96473313/#96480079
Aera https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96482056
Illior of the Doria (Lone) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96482585
Godslayer Punchardt https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96487671
Lady, the Academy Meister https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96478474/#96485991
The Curse Slinger https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96487358/#96493657
Fu'uq, the Pixie Bomber https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96487358/#96493201
Paxtinger, Dragon God https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96497495/#96503070
Anonymous No.96508024 [Report] >>96509747
I'm so tired of Outer Reincarnation
Anonymous No.96508034 [Report] >>96508177
>>96508006
Anonymous No.96508035 [Report] >>96508046
I'm so tired of life
Anonymous No.96508046 [Report]
>>96508035
Perhaps something you have brought with you is weighing you down?
If you expect nothing then you can do nothing
Anonymous No.96508059 [Report] >>96508076 >>96508092 >>96508128 >>96508296 >>96508883
>>96508006
There's nothing wrong with using your free True Love if your build and plans are already good, you're just worried about being sassed for having a waifu. You have most likely already bought the non-romantic love of your compatriots unless you were pulling a Sarmat, furthermore, romantic love is not any more special than any other kind of love, it is just a friendship that involves sex. The whole rest of the page makes it obvious that Charlie is just a sophist. Why not make it 100% clear on which NPC is wife, or husband material?
Anonymous No.96508076 [Report]
>>96508059
>It is just friendship that involves sex
LAME!
If you think like this you are not capable of love and will need to be corrected hard by 12th
Anonymous No.96508092 [Report] >>96508114
>>96508059
>romantic love is not any more special than any other kind of love, it is just a friendship that involves sex
that's the most gay thing I've read in this thread and that's counting softieposting
Anonymous No.96508114 [Report]
>>96508092
What is softieposting?
Anonymous No.96508128 [Report] >>96508144 >>96508234 >>96508241 >>96509046 >>96509118
>>96508059
All kinds of love are the same.
Anonymous No.96508144 [Report]
>>96508128
Based and true
Anonymous No.96508160 [Report]
>>96507754
Time to make use of this.
Anonymous No.96508176 [Report] >>96508187 >>96508196 >>96508199 >>96508274 >>96509163 >>96510372
What’s your interpretation of Hand of Infinity and Sunstride?
Anonymous No.96508177 [Report] >>96508185
>>96508034
Manusya's Autoantecedence is implied but not spelled out by his description.
>What remains of Manusya is no longer a man but a principle: the hand that unravels tropes, the silence that denies epilogues, the corrosion that strips stories of their false promise.
Anonymous No.96508185 [Report]
>>96508177
Who cares. If it's not spelled explicitely, it's absent for the purpose of the list.
Anonymous No.96508187 [Report]
>>96508176
One helps you cheat at cards and the other makes you walk faster
You'll never guess which is which
Anonymous No.96508196 [Report] >>96508215
>>96508176
If the author doesn't know, how can we?
Anonymous No.96508199 [Report]
>>96508176
>Hand of Infinity
Something about copying statuses or objects.
>Sunstride
Get a boost when basked in sunlight.
Anonymous No.96508200 [Report]
>>96507936
>>96507954
This reminds me of how demons in the Might and Magic series are just aliens from another dimension who want to invade the setting because their own world is a radioactive blasted shithole and they're desperate to get out.
Anonymous No.96508215 [Report]
>>96508196
Use your imagination. You're not a slave FACTS and LOGIC right anon?
Anonymous No.96508234 [Report] >>96510601
>>96508128
I can't believe that dummy Stella thinks she can get all of her sisters to be a happy family again after what this one did.
Anonymous No.96508241 [Report] >>96508263
>>96508128
That's the kind of retard that True Love their siblings.
Anonymous No.96508258 [Report] >>96508261 >>96508274 >>96508304 >>96508322
Would you agree Icon of Icons would be more meaningful/soulful if it ONLY had gave the bonus from mass appeal, not from true friends?
That way, it would be more niche, wouldn't be an obvious pick for most builds.
Anonymous No.96508261 [Report] >>96508283 >>96508400
>>96508258
No I would feel the opposite
Friendship is cool, being a superstar is lame
Anonymous No.96508263 [Report]
>>96508241
Anon... that's definitely someone whose siblings did not love her, and someone who enjoys aggressively loving them despite their struggles. The opposite of an outsider who applies True Love.
Anonymous No.96508274 [Report] >>96508400
>>96508176
>Hand of Infinity
Perhaps it lets you continue counting as touching something after letting go? From a design perspective, it can't just be a range extension as that would overlap too much with the four-point Far Graze. A caster version that lets you remotely cast spells could also be interesting.
>Sunstride
Just saying it might be a bonus in sunlight is boring, so I will claim that it is a reverse of Shadow Footwork and moves you to where you would have next stepped to avoid attacks.

>>96508258
I disagree, the annoying part of the line "This Gift makes it so you are as many times powerful as many close friends you have" is that the degree of bonus is far too good, not the type.
Anonymous No.96508283 [Report] >>96508740
>>96508261
The problem with that is that almost everyone makes friends, that's not niche at all. Every gift should be worth picking within a niche and not universally. The friendship thing could work with some further qualifier, but I'm not sure what that could be.
Anonymous No.96508289 [Report] >>96508316 >>96508331 >>96508409 >>96508459 >>96508581
>>96508006
"GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT, KETER" build

>patron
YMRD

>Reincarnation
Male
Halfbreed = -2DP/-2AP
Dice Fudge [Keter] = free
Adoption(x2) = -2DP
Extra Mentor(x2) = -1DP/-2AP
Extra Companion(x3) -4DP/-2AP
Untimeskip(x3)[All mentors except Jdan] = -6DP
Outer Tide

>Parents
Maiosara Yesod + Vadim Sacro-Ionian = free
Keter -5DP
"One" -1DP/-1AP

>Race
Muddish/Southlander = +4AP/+2DP, +1 mentor, +1 companion

>Languages
Everman
Palatiner = +6DP for each companion slot
Drakonian = +2AP for location
Entramithraic = +Zhivete
Quietened = +21DP
Tutored(x2)[Eirina, Feodwra] = -2DP

>Location
Mountains of Autumn = DKMDV, +2DP

>Gifts
Intelligence
Noble Inclination
Royal Claim
Warmachina Mounting
Hybrid Disease
Bitter Sickness = +4AP
Wereplague(x2) = +4AP
Misalliance[Maiosara Yesod] = +14AP
Everlasting = -3DP/-3AP
Ethereal Beauty = -1AP
Thoroughbreding = -1AP
Cognitive Speed = -2AP
Memory Retention = -2AP
Wisdom = -2AP
Attentiveness = -2AP
Spiritual Feel = -2AP
Caster Intuition = -2AP
Flowing Gait(x2) = -2AP
God Hand(x3) = -3AP
Autoantecedence = -5AP
Icon of Icons = -5AP
All-Glimpse = -5AP

>Mentors (3)
Jdan = free
Arsak = 2DP
Eirina of the Orthrung (tutored Everman) = -3DP
Feodwra (tutored Everman) = -4P

>Companions (6)
Brastat, Syn Rarruta = -2DP
Oko Shtorma = -4DP
YMRD = -5DP/-5AP
Omega = free
empty(x3)

>Encounters
Never Alone -1DP/-1AP (Jdan)
Upward Spiral (Arsak)
Let the Purgation Begin (Eirina)
To be at War (Feodwra)
In My Machine Spirit (Brastat)
On Sick Leave (Omega)

A Bridge, a toll, a troll +1DP/+2AP
A Score of Orcs +2DP/+2AP

>Deaths
Me = Buki
Maiosara Yesod (C) = Slovo + Yee -1DP
Vadim Sacro-Ionian (A) = Her'v' + Zemlya -1DP
Keter (A) = Zelo+Zhivete
Jdan (C) = Greater Yus
Arsak (C) = Tsy
Eirina (C) = Lesser Yus
Feodwra (C) = Shta+Zhivete
Brastat, Syn Rarruta (C) = Ouk
Oko Shtorma (C) = Iotated Greater Yus
Omega (W) = Ot -5DP

>Youth
Magic
Leadership
Power Testing
Other(making mechs)
Anonymous No.96508296 [Report] >>96508301
>>96508059
>He needs True Love to woo his waifu
Absolute jobber, you won't survive Charlie's onslaught
Anonymous No.96508301 [Report]
>>96508296
>He needs to give his wife a ring
Whoah
Anonymous No.96508304 [Report] >>96508354 >>96508400
>>96508258
It's the other way around, it is the gift of hope and requires people close to you who seriously believe in you, the faceless masses are just a tiny bonus in comparison. If it were so strong anyone with it would have conquered the world already and Charlie doesn't count since she has no friends now.
Regardless, while obviously a very strong option, it was never really so dominant. This idea that any build without it is worthless literally came around just the other day. People were very happy to ignore it before if it didn't fit their builds.
Anonymous No.96508316 [Report] >>96508326 >>96508537
>>96508289
>Youth
>Other(making mechs)
This is about as valid as saying Other (Learning Godscript). Making Warmachina is a lost art, at best you can inherit one or have some chance of producing them with that one Dwarf guy. If you wanna build them, you'll have to do it without Fate's aid.
Anonymous No.96508322 [Report] >>96508400
>>96508258
Yeah absolutely not, getting boosted by friendship is way cooler than just being loved by the faceless crowd.
Anonymous No.96508324 [Report]
>>96507312 (OP)
I just want to say that this CYOA triggered a very profound spiritual/mental moment for me.
Thank you author, very cool!
Anonymous No.96508326 [Report] >>96508342 >>96508352
>>96508316
>This is about as valid as saying Other (Learning Godscript)
... but that's what most of (theoretical) magic study is
Anonymous No.96508331 [Report] >>96508338 >>96508537
>>96508289
>Misalliance Maiosara and Keter Adoption
If your idea is to go full mech why do you even want so many points.
Anonymous No.96508338 [Report] >>96508340 >>96508381
>>96508331
NTA but you can never go wrong with too many points
Anonymous No.96508340 [Report]
>>96508338
Can't agree, having too many points makes me neurotic.
Anonymous No.96508342 [Report]
>>96508326
It's not exactly the same thing, but kinda.
Also, the "Other" Youth option doesn't even guarantee you'll succeed at the thing you want to do, learning how to make mechs out of nowhere is pretty much gonna fail everytime. You are not Vtorusha.
Anonymous No.96508349 [Report] >>96508375 >>96508449
Keter trick was cool when it was discovered, now it's fucking overused and suffers from Meaning devaluation.
Anonymous No.96508352 [Report] >>96508375 >>96509319
>>96508326
Half the new builds are meaningless powergamers, none can play without Keter adoption.
Anonymous No.96508354 [Report] >>96508425
>>96508304
Yeah I don't know why someone is suddenly trying to argue it's too good/too obviously picked. It's not something that's in every build, you are almost only seeing it from Zwa or Iwnn builds (which are rare this version) or more rarely from people who want to start with a royal claim in another kingdom choosing to buy it. It's not some kind of meta centralizing option, like how most mage builds go for All-Glimpse.
Anonymous No.96508375 [Report] >>96508388
>>96508352
Stop crying about your subpar build.
>>96508349
So you don't want every advantage you can against Charlotte? Your loss.
Anonymous No.96508381 [Report] >>96508396 >>96508537 >>96508563
>>96508338
What does All-Glimpse add to that build other than generic good eyes, or Icon of Icons when there's not that many companions or choices to go for several friends. It just looks like another shopping list with no central theme other than get what's considered the best.
Anonymous No.96508388 [Report] >>96508436 >>96509319
>>96508375
No meaning, will die once outside of Fate's protection
Anonymous No.96508396 [Report] >>96508448
>>96508381
All-Glimpse is described as being "invaluable" to Magic users. So whatever it does, it's very good for them.
Anonymous No.96508400 [Report] >>96508425
>>96508304
I skipped it in the past since I felt it's not an especially strong thematic fit, and I'm certainly not saying other builds are worthless (Daemonhost seems much more OP to me) but "This Gift makes it so you are as many times powerful as many close friends you have" is a great fit for almost all builds who aren't very tight on points. My problem isn't so much that it's too "good", it's that it's too "nicheless".

>>96508322
It's named Icon of Icons, and it derives from the cult leader Mithra, so it's thematically more "power of being an icon" than "power of friendship". That's why I'd go for that.

But same question for you as for >>96508261 , if you want to emphasize the friendship aspect, how do you make it more than a generic pick for anyone who is going to have friends (ie almost all builds)? Lower power as >>96508274 mentions isn't really the solution, it doesn't make it much more niche.
Anonymous No.96508409 [Report] >>96508417 >>96508433
>>96508289
>Misalliance[Maiosara Yesod]
Has anyone ever taken Maiosara and not Misalliance her or are her inborn gifts just that bad?
Anonymous No.96508417 [Report]
>>96508409
The Curse Slinger, one of the latest build.
Anonymous No.96508425 [Report]
>>96508400
I'm gonna direct you to >>96508354
You come across like someone who is either trying to manifest problems so you have something to complain about, or else you just feel 'compelled' to put it in your build but don't want ti, so you're trying to argue it should be changed so you don't feel that autistic compulsion anymore.
Anonymous No.96508433 [Report]
>>96508409
Her inborn gifts are actually really good, for a martial build. Just not a lot of those.
Anonymous No.96508436 [Report] >>96508445 >>96509319
>>96508388
Minmaxxing is my Meaning. Sorry you need handholding to win lol.
Anonymous No.96508445 [Report]
>>96508436
>minmaxxing is meaning
Only if you wanna job like Erginter, then sure, enjoy living for less than 200 years.
Anonymous No.96508448 [Report] >>96508457 >>96508461
>>96508396
All-Glimpse makes the whole adventure a very dull experience. Sure you will get an easier time casting spells but you will have to deal with the constant narration in your head while also being unable to sleep. It's great if your build makes real use of it, but as a generic option for a mage you can just go double Starsight
Anonymous No.96508449 [Report]
>>96508349
I prefer Thaumiel trick now. A high elven fay bilingual start in Dis with some orc encounters is 35 DP 35AP with 5 mentors and 3 companions not including high elven bonus from companions like Eirina, Keter, Omega, Rhucuphre.
Anonymous No.96508457 [Report] >>96508502 >>96508641
>>96508448
I personally have a sneaking suspicion that having All-Glimpse makes achieving Ascension more difficult, since it's sabotaging your ability to accrue Meaning.
Anonymous No.96508459 [Report] >>96508472
>>96508289
quest, E Nomine

>god hand x3
allows me to change the effect of my permanent blessing and apply permanent blessings

>explanation
The idea here is to bring back warmachina. Then I can defeat 0^0 with the power of friendship and superior firepower.
I chose YMRD because I am changing the genre of the story to Mecha and it would be rude not to. The build relies on nudging fate into favorable directions, which YMRD could help with.

To that end, I have given Ouk to Brastat. My hope is that he gets so good at making warmachina that he ascends to godhood.
I have given Oko Shtorma Iotated Greater Yus so that she can become an even better mech.
Jdan gets Greater Yus, so maybe I can reignite his hope for the future. Never Alone hopefully means that Jdan knows how important I will be in the future and has chosen to come help me.
Eirina and Feodwra are good to have around, and time magic/numerology would be great to add to mechs. Omega because YMRD has plans for her.
I'm doing the Keter trick for points but also to redeem her.
One might be able to help me with warmachina. He knew Vtorusha well.

Location is mountains of Autumn. I'm going to rebuild the Kingdom of All Humans along the way.

I have taken a lot of maladies, but the blessing from God Hand should mitigate the effects. Additionally, the "Let the Purgation Begin" and "On Sick Leave" encounters should help me cure them. My other encounters should land me a starter Greater Warmachina and allow me to start my own territory in war (with Jdan's help).

Now, like Vtorusha I want to infuse my warmachina with a letter from the god script. Ouk, to be exact. Izhitsa is also a great candidate. My idea is a mech that can continuously learn, adapt and evolve. All-Glimpse can help me with researching exactly how to do this. This could be Brastat's magnum opus that ascends him. I'd name it Heaven Piercer. Seems fitting.

Lastly, I can't think of a name. I was thinking I'd let One name me, but maybe that's a bad idea lol
Anonymous No.96508461 [Report] >>96508488 >>96508524
>>96508448
All you said is true to some people, but what's so bad about never needing to sleep ? That's pretty much good to everyone. You wouldn't miss the "good feeling" of sleep if you never actually needed it in the first place.
Anonymous No.96508472 [Report] >>96508479
>>96508459
Also, I would hope that the balance/positioning effect of Flowing Gait x2 would work even in a warmachina. Should help a little bit in controlling them.
Anonymous No.96508479 [Report] >>96508501
>>96508472
It doesn't because being in a Warmachina shuts off all your Inborn Gifts (except Warmachina Mounting)
Anonymous No.96508488 [Report] >>96508569
>>96508461
It gives you anti-synergy with things like Upunth's trance.
Anonymous No.96508501 [Report]
>>96508479
Lolwhat? No, reread the option.
Anonymous No.96508502 [Report]
>>96508457
You can just not read the future of everything, the only thing forced into you is constant mind reading, sight and never sleeping. The mind reading may devalue Meaning depending on your interpretation though.
Anonymous No.96508524 [Report] >>96508693
>>96508461
It's just a constant narration about everything happening around you with no way to voluntarily shut it down. I personally think it would get very annoying after a while since you will have to find a way t relax while taking that into account.
Anonymous No.96508537 [Report]
>>96508316
>This is about as valid as saying Other (Learning Godscript)
That would be valid lol.

Saying you're going to learn God-Script doesn't mean you automatically ascend to Elder God status at age 10.
Saying you're going to learn how to make mechs doesn't mean you automatically make Ultra God Slayer Megalodon 9001 at age 10.

>>96508331
more points = more allies

>>96508381
I don't think regular warmachina are a threat to 0^0. Maybe with YMRD or Death of the Author, but that's iffy.
The plan is to do some serious research into magic and the God-Script, and of course All-Glimpse is crucial in doing that. Maybe starsight would be almost as good in this regard, but eh.
Anonymous No.96508563 [Report] >>96508602
>>96508381
>or Icon of Icons when there's not that many companions or choices to go for several friends.
I have 4 companions and 4 mentors?
Plus Keter, who should stick around?
And I want to rebuild the largest human nation?

and obviously it goes exceedingly well with the Gurren Lagaan theme
Anonymous No.96508569 [Report]
>>96508488
Apparently you can still enter a form of meditative trance to mimic sleep as per Tank's comments on the event where you journey through a dream.
Anonymous No.96508581 [Report] >>96508669
>>96508289
Why would you make a mech build without Auburn insular. The option to from birth be the only person in centuries who knows how to construct new warmachina of any kind is right there.

You don't even have the "tutoring all my mentors is expensive" excuse; you went keter cheese.
Anonymous No.96508602 [Report] >>96508669 >>96508672
>>96508563
Fair about Icon of Icons but I still think that Taiya would be a much more fitting mother. If you are Old Throne royalty then she could easily teach you how to operate and fix them.
Anonymous No.96508641 [Report]
>>96508457
Elder gods are authors, and all-Glimpse is giving you an author's-eye view of the world. The experiences you gain using it should definitely be spiritually enriching, it's just a different sort of enrichment than what, say, Xet is getting. More heady, more YMRD's domain than SRTR's, and leaning more towards JNPL as a workhorse goddess of reincarnation and mass ascension than JNPL as a gentle and kind caretaker ordinary people
Anonymous No.96508669 [Report] >>96508732 >>96508767 >>96508784
>>96508581
Being an AOP (Auburn only peasant) would kinda suck. It's a pain to learn other languages. Everman/Palatiner/Drakonid/Entramithraic gives me a good spread to at least be able to get by in most places near where I live. Also, I would lose the Zhivete I get from Entramithraic.

Knowing how to construct lesser warmachina is a decent head start, yes, but is it really worth it? I just don't know.

>>96508602
Taiya doesn't seem that good. Even if we take it that she could teach me about warmachina on account of being a muddish highlord, what could she teach me that Jdan couldn't? And her gifts just aren't good.
Auburn Insular would be a better choice.
Anonymous No.96508672 [Report] >>96510090
>>96508602
He'd have to be a gross Muddish then though.
Anonymous No.96508693 [Report]
>>96508524
Just have sex with your waifu while having it narrated to you. Sounds kinda rad.
Anonymous No.96508695 [Report] >>96508912
>>96507312 (OP)
>>96507319
what is the best race or hybrid combination to transform into?
i was thinking about a hybrid of: Dragons, nonhuman angels and humans(or maybe humanlike angels).
Anonymous No.96508716 [Report] >>96508724 >>96508783 >>96508790 >>96508862
Why do half the people here think All-Glimpse is a trap? Or anything for that matter? Why would JNPL/The System troll you?
Anonymous No.96508717 [Report] >>96508725 >>96508851 >>96508891
Proper Outsiders marry elves, not dirty Empyreans or undead.
Anonymous No.96508724 [Report] >>96508738 >>96508755
>>96508716
The system totally trolled Yphont with Aat’s mentor description.
Anonymous No.96508725 [Report]
>>96508717
>Proper Outsiders marry
What, so you can get SRTR'd?
Or would you rather get JNPL'd?
Anonymous No.96508732 [Report] >>96508972
>>96508669
She would be a way to start your knowledge of War Machina earlier, Keter and One would have nothing to teach you on the subject and Jdan doesn't seem like he used his that much before taking the throne. If not her, Vadim, Kuz'ma or better yet Yaropolk would be much more fitting in my opinion.
Anonymous No.96508738 [Report]
>>96508724
More likely Yphont trolled herself like so many people in this general who proved to be incapable of reading.
Anonymous No.96508740 [Report] >>96508766
>>96508283
>The problem with that is that almost everyone makes friends
>On 4chan
Anon, I think you need to really reconsider your view on this.
Anonymous No.96508747 [Report] >>96509188
>>96507894
Correct. But you aren't doing that. You ARE using epic fantastic magic in the fantasy setting instead of being a mudcore peasant skirmisher or tech obsessed gunfag, right?
Anonymous No.96508755 [Report]
>>96508724
It's not her fault you can't read, anon.
Anonymous No.96508766 [Report]
>>96508740
Everyone on 4chan would have tons of friends if they were powerful, active and competent. Even more so if people were quirky anime boys and girls.
Anonymous No.96508767 [Report] >>96508972
>>96508669
Warmachina have been a lost science since the war of heaven and earth, and that's not because nobody has tried to bring them back. Every old throne revival has been lead by a gifted and fate-backed non-Outsider, and none succeded in recovering the lost tech.

Outsiders cheat, which is why it's not impossible for 11 to bring them back, but leaving the single largest cheat that the system can give you on the table is setting yourself up for failure.
Anonymous No.96508783 [Report] >>96508798
>>96508716
It's not a trap, it's a very good option, but one that comes with several downsides that might not be worth it for a particular build. I just get the feeling a lot of people are taking it just because rather than it actually being of any use to their strategy. Just imagine if 'I also have limited narration spewing eyes' if something that makes sense to the character.
Anonymous No.96508784 [Report] >>96508972
>>96508669
You have basically no plausible way to learn anything deep about Warmachine and the main focus of your build is them. That's a very bad idea.
Anonymous No.96508790 [Report]
>>96508716
It’s one or two people who keep repeating the same shit to restart the argument.
Anonymous No.96508798 [Report] >>96508826
>>96508783
What strategy would you consider its worth taking All-Glimpse? By description, it fits any mage, makes you almost immune to being ambushed, gives you more time to study. I'm not saying it has no consequences, but it does seem to be useful to many many builds.
Anonymous No.96508819 [Report]
Why don't Outer Reincarnation fags take their shit to MCYOAG?
Anonymous No.96508826 [Report]
>>96508798
Anything trying to transform "the matrix" instead of playing it on its own terms would probably be anything between crippled and confused by the All-Glimpse.
Anonymous No.96508841 [Report]
>>96507598
Me.
Anonymous No.96508851 [Report] >>96508861
>>96508717
Was there ever a proper Outsider, then?
Anonymous No.96508858 [Report]
>>96507598
The demons
Anonymous No.96508861 [Report] >>96508866
>>96508851
Tuzik. Stithia was waifu-bait
Anonymous No.96508862 [Report]
>>96508716
Non-standard sensory organ, they cannot deal with it.
Anonymous No.96508866 [Report]
>>96508861
Legend has it that he did fix her.
Anonymous No.96508883 [Report]
>>96508059
I'm using True Love on Charlotte and no one can stop me.
Anonymous No.96508891 [Report] >>96508905
>>96508717
You have to breed the undead to get One out of the respawn queue, anon. Do it for him.
Anonymous No.96508905 [Report] >>96508925 >>96508979
>>96508891
You need half-undead for that. That's doable, but not a single outsider tried that so far.
Anonymous No.96508911 [Report] >>96508943 >>96508950
oc?
Anonymous No.96508912 [Report] >>96509070
>>96508695
Esoteric Angel, Dragon, or Giant. All other races are worthless.
Anonymous No.96508925 [Report]
>>96508905
Not true, Aat did.
He didn't get very far though.
Anonymous No.96508943 [Report] >>96508960
>>96508911
Check the OP
Anonymous No.96508950 [Report]
>>96508911
Anonymous No.96508960 [Report]
>>96508943
Yes but what about second oc?
Anonymous No.96508972 [Report] >>96508997 >>96509011 >>96509014 >>96509137 >>96509823
The Vtorusha glaze is crazy. Her main cheat was Maker's Brush x3, which likely has a lot more to do with building warmachina than designing them.

It would NOT be that hard to retrace her steps if you have even a passing idea of how Earth tech works.

>>96508732
One was Vtorusha's mentor. He travelled the world uplifting people with her. He also fought against warmachina in the war of heaven and earth. If anything, he's the person that knows the most out of anyone that you can select in the CYOA. Maybe aside from YMRD.

Vadim will teach you how to use warmachina, but he doesn't know how they work. I don't think Yaropolk really knows either. Kuz'ma is retarded and a Charlie simp.

>>96508767
The single largest cheat is Brastat + Ouk. Auburn insular is complete dogshit in comparison.

I don't think the insular bonus is even meant to be all that good. In 1000 years, OR natives hardly invented anything. Even Charlie, who clearly didn't know much about Earth science, radically changed the tech level of the Ecumene.

>>96508784
All-Glimpse gives you full awareness of everything around you. That includes warmachina.
And I'd use my own fucking brain. God damn.
Anonymous No.96508979 [Report]
>>96508905
The two options that should definitely work are turning Kalliope or ??? half-undead, or using Thaumiel artificial-life-creation to make a test tube undead.

But IGY Savgirl, tho
Anonymous No.96508997 [Report] >>96509065
>>96508972
Awareness is not the same as knowing all the inner workings of something, let alone how to replicate it, I can give you the chemical composition of a plane, you still won't learn how to make one. You just want to do something but without having to pay the price for it, meme build.
Anonymous No.96509003 [Report] >>96509038
>>96508006
Thinking about what was said last thread I think that the way OR handles meta stuff and fate is closer to Homestuck than Umineko.

Stuff like Gamzee being effectively unkillable until his role in the time loop is fulfilled reminds me of how Dobrava works.
Anonymous No.96509011 [Report] >>96509065
>>96508972
Maker's Brush was probably the only thing that let her make Warmachina from scratch, design and crafting included. You're just headcanoing you being able to do something completely spectacular and hard without getting the correct pieces.
Anonymous No.96509013 [Report] >>96509028 >>96509044 >>96509070 >>96509613 >>96509958 >>96510481
>>96507474
>>96507312 (OP)
>1. Sage + New & Old
>2. Sage + New & Old
>3. Magician + New & Old
>4. Titan
>5. Hero
>6. Sage + New & Old (bonus: a billion drawbacks)
>7. Sage + New & Old

4/7 are sages. 5/7 have New & Old. Billions Must Die and Open Heart are by far the most popular Burdens. Make whatever conclusions you want from this information.
Anonymous No.96509014 [Report] >>96509065
>>96508972
Brastat + Ouk can resolve by just turning him into a living warmachina, something that can happen by accident, after he becomes the best in the world at warmachina repair. It sets yourself up for success, but it's not a guarantee. The only guarantee in the CYOA is Auburn Insular.

Also
>pointscaling
Anonymous No.96509028 [Report]
>>96509013
The burdens all suck hard. Not worth the points most of the time.
Anonymous No.96509038 [Report]
>>96509003
Definitely true, Outer Reincarnation is a better Homestuck CYOA than "Ultimate" God ever was or will be.
Anonymous No.96509044 [Report] >>96509543
>>96509013
Anons are uncreative hacks. Did anyone expect anything else?
Anonymous No.96509046 [Report]
>>96508128
I can fix her. Or she can make me worse
Anonymous No.96509064 [Report] >>96509095 >>96509136
>>96507312 (OP)
Does a build from this beat a build from Isekai Dark Overlord? I want to know which one to resurrect as after I die.
Anonymous No.96509065 [Report] >>96509086 >>96509156 >>96509180
>>96508997
>>96509011
Take it apart. Look at the parts and use your fucking brain to put it back together.

You are headcannoning that it’s impossible to do something that someone has already done and that is explicitly possible to do again.

>>96509014
>Brastat + Ouk can resolve by just turning him into a living warmachina
That’s not what Ouk says.
>>pointscaling
There’s no pointscaling, retard
Anonymous No.96509070 [Report]
>>96508912
having a nonhuman body or a body of Giantic size would be unbelievably annoying. but now that i think about it the weaknesses of Esoteric Angels would be alleviated by merging them with other races.
>>96509013
you will also notice that a many of builds choose to get rid of the same vassals
Anonymous No.96509086 [Report] >>96509185
>>96509065
You never built anything in your life if you think its that easy lmao. Go ahead and just make those microchips, anon.
Anonymous No.96509095 [Report]
>>96509064
light overlord is set up on earth
Anonymous No.96509118 [Report]
>>96508128
No one liked this slut
Anonymous No.96509122 [Report] >>96509129 >>96509224 >>96509930
Strange that with so much new content for undead, there are no dedicated necromancer builds. Time to follow a noble Drow tradition and show those Ecumene shmucks some proper dark magic!

>patron
YMRD

>Reincarnation
Female
Extra Mentor x7
Extra companion x1
Dice Fudge(Free)
>Parents
Dryndeth From Agarttha (Yer', Misalliance) Shael of the Orthrung (R'tsy)

>Race
Dark Elf, Maevian.

>Languages
Fay
Thulean
Everman
Benewhisper
Tutored(Everman) x1

>Location
City of Dis

>Gifts
Caster Intuition
Noble Bearing
Dream Stride x1
Intelligence
Attentiveness
Wisdom
Cognitive Speed
Memory Retention
Spiritual Feel
Wereplague
Bitter Sickness
Panarmament x2
All-Glimpse
Kneeling Twilight
Icon of Icons
Ethereal Beauty

>Mentors
Thaumiel
Lyndis (Dice Fudge)
Eirina
Herleva
Seo

>Companions
Baf (True Love )
Mocnaeth
Tamura
Inga Yesod

>Encounters
Never Alone - Thaumiel (Myslete)
Troll
Ogres
Score of Orcs
Hobgoblin
Dissolved Parties - Baf (Iotated Greater Yus - Zhivete)
Upward Spiral - Tamura (Greater Yus)
No Way, Highwayman - Inga
Musket to the Face - Mocnaeth (Cherv')
Things That - Lyndis (Slovo)
Purgation - Eirina (Ouk)
Immortal Coils - Herleva
Breaking and Entering - Seo (Shta)
Remember the Demon - Eirina
Crown into the Gutter (Hladvig) - Herleva

>Letter
Yat

>Youth
Magical Training
Leadership Training
Dungeoneering
Treasure Hunting


>Quest
E Nomine
Anonymous No.96509129 [Report] >>96509224
>>96509122
Shael of the Orthrung is the best mother for an Outsider who just wants to bury Ecumene under an avalanche of horrible warcrimes, no matter the cost. I would gladly make her proud!Thaumiel gives me nightmare monsters and my own doom fortress, Herleva and Seo can share everything there is to know about both branches of necromancy with Inga there to dig even deeper. Eirina is needed so my undead armies actually fight the Ecumene, instead of collapsing on the ground, and Lyndis is a mandatory hypercompetent advisor keeping everything afloat, while I delve deeper into the dark magic.

A special place in our forces is for Tamura and her scythe, which I am going to copy with Panarmament and continue to constantly upgrade with custom undead of my own creation. Two uber scythes for the price of one. The rest of companions are needed to create a power base, eventually take over Qlippoth and Lichyard, while also decapitating Pandaemonium so they stop backstabbing us at least for 5 minutes. Then I am planning to rule it as an adored queen of the undead with my Icon of Icons, while exchanging ideas on killing gods with Tamura and enacting some of the Ynga's old plans.

The letters are assigned by the principle "As long as it leaves a body to raise", even if I am not planning on actually making my comrades into undead. No, we will all just use Herleva's method to turn into half undead. Still immortal, still considered our previous race and without any deathslot to worry about. If we actually manage to murder Charlie, I guess we can also become half-empyrean, just to be sure
Anonymous No.96509136 [Report] >>96511038
>>96509064
Light Overlord starts off vastly stronger, but doesn't have limitless potential. If given many thousands upon thousands of years, a Dark Overlord will outpace them. Light Overlord also has somewhat less minion variety.
Anonymous No.96509137 [Report]
>>96508972
>OR natives didn't invent anything
This meme needs to fucking die. They went from bronze age to early modern in 1000 years. That's 800 years faster than the fastest earth civilization.
Anonymous No.96509154 [Report]
>>96508000
If they didn't it'd be literally impossible to hurt them. Are you suggesting that it's impossible to win against the demons at all?
Anonymous No.96509156 [Report] >>96509210
>>96509065
>Sublimate to a higher level of existence upon reaching the height of their craft.

Being a living warmachina can be considered a higher level of existence than just a dwarf. The height of Brastat's craft, in the current era, is just being able to fix things that no one else can fix.
Anonymous No.96509163 [Report]
>>96508176
>Hand of Infinity
Inventory. Charlotte bought RPG mechanic to have infinity storage space.
>Sunstride
Running faster and having more stamina and regeneration while being under the sun.
Anonymous No.96509180 [Report] >>96509210
>>96509065
>"I don't think the 1-point option that gives you centuries-lost knowledge at spawn is meant to be all that good"
>Not pointscaling

Are you retarded, or just lying?
Anonymous No.96509185 [Report] >>96509205
>>96509086
Monocrystalline silicon, cut into slices, bake on your photoresist, expose through your shadow mask, etch/dope/coat, repeat.
Anonymous No.96509188 [Report] >>96509220
>>96508747
Here's a thought, why not put magic Onto technology? If a magic arrow is good enough to kill demons, a magic Bullet will be even better.
A hundred years is an amazingly long time technology-wise. We went from inventing flight to landing on the moon in a couple decades. Talking AI was still considered science fiction in 2005.
Anonymous No.96509205 [Report] >>96509214 >>96509245
>>96509185
Now tell me how did you figured that out simply by knowing what microchips are made of. Also go read the human genome and build the perfect one, you can do it champ.
Anonymous No.96509210 [Report] >>96509219 >>96509229
>>96509156
It’s not. Even if there were a chance of that happening, YMRD could prevent it.

>>96509180
>points out of nowhere
Meds.
Anonymous No.96509214 [Report]
>>96509205
>how did you figured that out
Lol
Anonymous No.96509219 [Report] >>96509239
>>96509210
>The gods will just do it for me

Not how it works. Explicitly, both in the text and in multiple WoGs.
Anonymous No.96509220 [Report] >>96509300
>>96509188
A magic arrow and a magic bullet could very well be the same, if the bullet is faster, the arrow can just use magic to go faster too.
And if anons wanted that, they'd go Magician instead of Sage. Plenty of humans already know tech, but none know magic.
Anonymous No.96509224 [Report] >>96509315
>>96509122
>>96509129
>Yphont but Dual Nightmare Monarchy
Anonymous No.96509229 [Report] >>96509239
>>96509210
You know it could happen outside of YMRD line of sight, right? She's not gonna be looking at him 24/7
Anonymous No.96509239 [Report] >>96509261 >>96509274
>>96509219
>>96509229
You headcannoned Ouk into meaning "turning into a living warmachina" when it says nothing of the sort, then you headcannoned YMRD into not helping, for some reason.

What the fuck are you smoking?
Anonymous No.96509245 [Report] >>96509254 >>96509266
>>96509205
He'll google it. Just like he'll did for this thread. He's just built diff like that.
Anonymous No.96509254 [Report]
>>96509245
>Just like he'll did for this thread
embarassing
Anonymous No.96509261 [Report] >>96509273
>>96509239
>the death rune cannot do what I don't allow it to do
>also, I cannot read posts
Ah, I get it, you're just retarded. As excpected of a shit build.
Anonymous No.96509266 [Report]
>>96509245
>Google Translate: Godscript -> English
He really is gonna no diff Charlie
Anonymous No.96509273 [Report] >>96509317
>>96509261
>THE DEATH LETTER DOES SOMETHING THAT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT IT DOES
>source? My stinky asshole
Lol.
Anonymous No.96509274 [Report]
>>96509239
Anonymous No.96509275 [Report] >>96509354
Some of you are being trolled today.
Anonymous No.96509300 [Report] >>96509327
>>96509220
>A magic arrow and a magic bullet could very well be the same
No, they wouldn't. The only way this could possibly be the case is if a techbro build Didn't take "New + Old". In that case, they're a retard that deserves to be laughed at.
>And if anons wanted that, they'd go Magician instead of Sage.
Anon, every class can use magic. Magician is just the best at spells. Being the best at spells doesn't make you the best at magitech though.
Anonymous No.96509315 [Report] >>96509930
>>96509224
Maybe not as cute and pacifistic, but I am also going to solve the Uruc problem. It is generally frowned upon to make undead out of people, but Uruk aren't people, so it is free game. And one encounter conveniently provides us a door to Uruk infested Mamet.
Anonymous No.96509316 [Report]
>>96507312 (OP)
Solo Build Attempt
Ideal: Titan
Blessings: Celestial, Indomitable, Saviour, Gates
Burdens: Frontline Command, Shield of Sacrifice
Races: Esoteric Angel, Hybrid *2 (Esoteric Angel, Dragon, Giant) - Divine Beasts - Massive unnatural creatures used as the superweapons of ancient gods to punish societal sins or battle other deities. - The downsides of both dragons and giants can be countered by making humility angels but that's irrelevant here.
Types: Collossi, Thaumaturge, Heirophant, Oracle, Resurrector, Valkyrie, Slayer, Grandmaster, Artisan, Teleporter
Dead: Pharas, Duke Ulman, Attempt 7 (Arkun the Red), Grend, Marin, The Screeching Wyvern
I just picked a good race for myself and made every option I could make so expensive as to be unreasonable to field large numbers of, I'll probably have around 10 collosi divine beasts to protect key areas and 50 Heirophant and Oracle class to serve as support, the remaining vril will be equally split between each class.

The plan is too fly around at mach speeds and spawn camp whatever portals the demons come through with a teleport beacon near each site and scring to check if anything is emerging from each portal, I then show up with my crazy speed from celestial laser them to death and move on while the collosi do cleanup and the heirophants make sure areas stay cleaned up and act as extra warning. I'll relying on vril from kills pretty much exclusively but I don't think esoteric angels need to sleep so I can be a perpetual laser death machine spawn camping pretty much every demon.
Anonymous No.96509317 [Report]
>>96509273
Nigger learn to read, turning into a living warmachina is very much a valid higher form of existence compared to a dwarf. But you obviously just want to headcanon your shitty story with absolute no chance of failure and no meaning, words are lost on false like you.
Anonymous No.96509319 [Report] >>96509384
>>96508352
>>96508388
>>96508436
The biggest possible disadvantage you would get if you actually followed through minmaxxing/taking exploits/believing in tricks is becoming exactly as Charlotte describes you (and herself), an Outsider who doesn't deserve any of this. You're subscribing to Causality over Providence, and it is completely subjective if that loss is fine or not, but if you're doing E Nomine, you shouldn't be doing so? All of those points has to come from somewhere, it can't just be numbers.
Anonymous No.96509324 [Report] >>96509334 >>96509344 >>96509470 >>96512218
>>96507733
>World Event:
Riders of the Apocalypse

>Body:
Monster Heritage: £»©—£¶—

>Power Archetypes:
Warrior, Blue Mage, Champion, Artificer: All

>Perks:
One Chance

>Ultimate Combos:
Rho Aias, E.G.O, Philosopher's Stone

>Provisions:
Cornucopia

Creatio ex nihilo.

>Revisions:
Brighter Lights: Most Good Things
Impending Doom: Incoming x10, Delayed Escalation

Cursus Honorum is Tokland, perfect for extermination during the Second Horseman.

>Expeditions:
Bounties: Nemesis

Opposite moral values to me means the Nemesis is an insane genocidal psychopath, so good riddance.

>Arrival:
Landing: Heavenhold
Aspirations: Do Some Science, Reach The Origin

The above is build highlights, not at all comprehensive.

Blue Mage, Artificer, Cornucopia, and Philosopher’s Stone are crazy together. Create and become anything you know. Absorb anything and then recreate it at will. Evolution and technological progress side by side. Post scarcity utopia. These 4 are *the* ultimate combo. Sprinkle in some extras like Champion, improving the world, and Heavenhold, and victory is practically guaranteed.

>Plan:
1. Replace my body.
2. Take control of and learn about Heavenhold.
3. Travel across the world to complete Expeditions and gather materials and knowledge.
First Horseman: Stealth or bulldoze my way through depending on the assessed risk.
Second Horseman: Support the Yu Dynasty, the strongest country.
Third Horseman: Famine is preemptively dealt with by me spreading super advanced food production techniques and technology. I can easily create cures on the spot for Pestilence.
Fourth Horseman: With my immense power, the Yu Dynasty, and the secrets from Heavenhold, solving the mystery is easy.
Anonymous No.96509327 [Report]
>>96509300
>Being the best at spells doesn't make you the best at magitech though.
Do you think inbuing this with magic is not a spell?
Anonymous No.96509334 [Report] >>96509350
>>96509324
>Build Code:
opening,opening2,everything,d9mb,wwyu,m5gj,rome,china,goodchurch,bwqb,d8ul,rl43,acwx,feib,aygd,7g69,8v2y,es5g,igpg,i0lm,05az,r4t4y6u7kidfgn,pokiujhj,5nfy,lkh1,e5ow,22g1,4lq3,krwe,acm9,pfzi,t4jg,loner,goodworld,extralewd,extralewd_lewd_adjuster,male,macho,futanari,lgxs,amm5,h7j5,o0a4,cd8n,40h9,7h86,gov4,lmon,p2kv,r0o2,2kuu,syuw,08n4,h8k3,4g7b,bc32,xmae,de63,v02s,6uut/ON#2,ev1u/ON#2,knight,end3,pb38,o7iv,0gcn,q0o0,artificer,hrxy,kym7,c8bi,ry5q,japr,ob4b,bluemage,3x0e,5ok7,w99m,x0na,rwsx,kuz1,9iy1,i04r,j7rg,5rqh,docv,54jb,02l0,pgpc,bhhg,9oks,qopi,lewdlandings,2q2b,xz03,isvi,kj3r,u3y3,99qx,y2xm/ON#10,8p3v,3xmh/ON#10,aspirationtab,7h3h,74ad,op8t,dx1i,55r1,getraped,7lqp,monster,s8xq,warrior,str1,str2,dex1,dex2,end1,end2,jram,f7au,0ykd,ule7,u99c,cbri,4o9r,rclc,i2p6,iyuj,5ys9,37v9,iawz,spja,e5wd,lewdmonsters,1k4c,misandry,qyd9,zvhe,465j,7yxu,tzin,egypt,aghj532,aztec,sov3,rgj3,imwm,n4d5,yi1d,nwkd,132v/ON#1
Anonymous No.96509344 [Report] >>96509353
>>96509324
>Blue Mage again
It really is busted beyond anything else, isn't it?
Anonymous No.96509350 [Report]
>>96509334
Anonymous No.96509353 [Report] >>96509393
>>96509344
Not really "again" since it's a build update, but yes, it is busted alongside Artificer.
Anonymous No.96509354 [Report]
>>96509275
physicsfag strikes again
Anonymous No.96509366 [Report] >>96509449 >>96509509
>>96508006
Reading the meta-letter discussion from last thread: the "It does nothing" answer doesn't actually make sense to me.
[JNPL] doesn't fit any of the meta-letter descriptors. Zhivete literally can't be true because [JNPL] is genuinely dead right now and the event that killed her still happened. Yee and Zhemlya can't be true at the same time in the same timeline, one is becoming an undead and the other is reincarnating as a different person.
This feels like a "I don't want to deal with this bullshit" answer rather than one that actually makes sense with the rules provided.
Anonymous No.96509379 [Report]
>>96507733
Wait a second, this is just Porn.
Anonymous No.96509384 [Report] >>96509522
>>96509319
Minmaxxing as YMRD E Nomine is fine; YMRD is the goddess of rules autism. Erginter lost her patronage because erginter didn't do any rules autism after arriving in the world, she just spammed her one true build trick to win at everything until she met someone she couldn't beat.

Minmaxxing can also work with SRTR as long as your end result works as a cool hero or villain. Erginter spamming her gift-eating trick would've been fine by SRTR, because she played a good villain.
Anonymous No.96509393 [Report] >>96509495
>>96509353
Nah, that Blue Mage + Puppeteer Ultimate Art is better. A super loyal assimilating army is also much cooler.
Anonymous No.96509449 [Report] >>96509539
>>96509366
Zhivete doesn't work *because* she's already dead. Zhivete is for dodging death at the last possible second, like when a character is implied to die off-screen but they come back later in the movie. The metaphorical camera has shown her corpse and shown Charlie writing with her blood, the time-frame where it could apply is long past.

Yee doesn't apply because it's already happened. She reincarnated as the Outsider System. She could reincarnate again, but that would be Yee applied to Outsider-System JNPL, not Corpse-JNPL, and Outsider-System JNPL is not a selectable character.

Zemlya doesn't work because she'd simply refuse. Her soul has passed on, it could only come back in undeath if she came willingly, and she's the elder goddess who is least okay with undeath as a concept.

Also Yee + Zemlya can be applied in the same timeline, it literally happened to One. He has to reincarnate as an undead to meet the conditions of both, which is difficult to trigger, hence him being available as a father candidate -- fate is taking every opportunity it can to trigger his letters at this point.
Anonymous No.96509470 [Report] >>96509905
>>96509324
>Cursus Honorum is Tokland, perfect for extermination during the Second Horseman.
Why ? You would fit right in.
Anonymous No.96509495 [Report] >>96509611
>>96507733
>>96509393
Another busted combo is Dancer+Dreameater, Dreameater's weakness is you need to write down the spell and the writing need to be look at to be cast, Dancer deal with the casting and it doesn't even cost mana.
Anonymous No.96509509 [Report] >>96509528
>>96509366
It doesn't does nothing, but would still effectively amount to nothing is probably the correct answer? I don't think Zemlya, Yee, or even Zhivete provide any answers to Psi. You can't revive [JNPL] without providing valid arguments about how she died at the hands of 0^0 but yet is still alive. Zemlya says "She's still too attached to this world." and Psi says "She's a fucking witch.". Yee says "Ah, but she's actually just reincarnated again." and Psi says "That's not JNPL" or whatever. Zhivete says "But she's actually still alive after getting killed." and Psi says "Yeah, I guess she was still alive a second after she got decapitated." or what have you. You need to actually find a Letter that could say that [JNPL] is still alive, or another trick, to revive her.
Anonymous No.96509522 [Report]
>>96509384
You just don’t get it. If you aren’t an Unnotable One peasant farming wheat in the middle of nowhere, your story has no Meaning.
You will surely job to 0^0 (pbuh) if you take all the most powerful gifts, mentors, and companions. Only by refusing the unearned power of the outsider system can you truly beat the Goddess of Causality.
Anonymous No.96509528 [Report] >>96509567 >>96509638
>>96509509
>You can't revive [JNPL] without providing valid arguments about how she died at the hands of 0^0 but yet is still alive.
*Looks at empyreans reviving just fine after death*
Anonymous No.96509531 [Report] >>96509552 >>96509559 >>96509560 >>96509586 >>96509601
Reminder that there is a priest of JNPL who is explicitly capable of resurrection, and only two people have taken him.
Anonymous No.96509539 [Report] >>96509683
>>96509449
>Zhivete doesn't work *because* she's already dead
Time shenanigans have already been established as a fact of the setting. There are already 2 timelines.
Literally nothing gives a good argument to why it'd be impossible to pull something like that off with the OR system, which has several options that Already rewrite the timeline as is.
Anonymous No.96509543 [Report]
>>96509044
>Anons are uncreative hacks. Did anyone expect anything else?
I don't think it's really a matter of being uncreative, just a general recognition that technology represents a massive force multiplier. (Moreso in this than in Dark Overlord, since here we're simply 'reactivating' a technological society rather than building it from scratch, so it should be significantly faster.)

I made the last tech build on the list, missed the previous thread so didn't really see the others except the billion drawbacks one. Planning on another build that's more aligned with my actual, not-quite-so-tech-loving sensibilities, but I have to think about it. The burdens really are scary.
Anonymous No.96509552 [Report]
>>96509531
Anons can be complete dumbasses.
In other news, the floor is made of floor. More at 11.
Anonymous No.96509559 [Report]
>>96509531
Why would we, when Herleva can remove the letter and grant immortality simultaneously?
Anonymous No.96509560 [Report]
>>96509531
Just don’t die.
Anonymous No.96509564 [Report] >>96509575
I think minmaxxing have Meaning if you are actually using the benefits you get from it to make a good, worthwhile story and apply those extra points towards a cohesive goal to connect fates and set up a stage for good narrative to happen.
Shop list picks without any real connection between them and lack of unified, sensible direction is the soulless approach which devalue Meaning while using those extra points to add options which works off each other to make a better narrative for (you) and others involved is smart application of those things which Elder Gods would enjoy if you do so in their field of interests.
Anonymous No.96509567 [Report] >>96509590
>>96509528
I mean, if you have Khier, sure. Their argument is "I'm not actually a part of this world." The cleanest route that the story would take to explain Psi Khier is just "[JNPL] got bored of writing the world and ditches." Is that the ending you seek?
Anonymous No.96509575 [Report] >>96509588 >>96509624
>>96509564
>Doesn't think the story of an anon causing their own downfall with their greed and short-sightedness has meaning.
Example A of anons being uncreative, but also too smug to notice they're part of the problem.
Anonymous No.96509586 [Report]
>>96509531
JNPL won't help you though
Anonymous No.96509588 [Report] >>96509598
>>96509575
Thats the meaning you get out of Charlie though.
Anonymous No.96509590 [Report] >>96509618
>>96509567
>Psi Khier
Anon, Khier is Omega only.
Read the actual CYOA.
Anonymous No.96509597 [Report] >>96509608 >>96509609 >>96509645 >>96509844
>purposefully taking trap options and skipping Icon of Icons/All-Glimpse/any worthwhile parents, mentors, or companions
vgh, meaningfvl
>living isekai slow life doing literally nothing
OH MY HECKING JNPL!!!! MEANINGFVL KINO!!!!
>Assembling the best and brightest for your mission to kill the false god and free the souls of an entire world from her tyranny
erm, picking the best options means you would lose actually
Anonymous No.96509598 [Report] >>96509612
>>96509588
>Also too smug to notice they're part of the problem
That went without saying anon.
Anonymous No.96509601 [Report] >>96509717
>>96509531
Only when certain circumstances are met, but it doesn't tell which ones.
Anonymous No.96509608 [Report]
>>96509597
Why do you write like a faggot?
Anonymous No.96509609 [Report] >>96509616 >>96509636 >>96509662
>>96509597
SRTR welcomes you anon
>skipping Icon of Icons/All-Glimpse
Neither of these helped Keter. They're literally trap options disguised as overpowered abilities.
Anonymous No.96509611 [Report] >>96509658
>>96509495
But can you cast one archetype stuff with another one? In that case you could just cast Dreameater stuff with Black/White mage or whatever else. Or is there an Ultimate Art saying you can do that explicitly?
Anonymous No.96509612 [Report]
>>96509598
Nah, I'd count my blessings.
Anonymous No.96509613 [Report]
>>96509013
If you are a Sage with New&Old you should get Unity, but only one build did so.
Sage's perfect memory turn you into a perfect repository of knowledge for New&Old, you can take the knowledge from every followers' mind and transfer whatever one need to know from another/yourself.
You just made a new Alchemist, download everything your followers have ever figure out about the subject into it, or just what it need when needed.
Anonymous No.96509616 [Report] >>96509729
>>96509609
Keter doesn’t have either of those gifts lol
Anonymous No.96509618 [Report] >>96509626 >>96509631 >>96509642
>>96509590
>If you have Khier
Yeah, I don't know. How did Charlie become an Angel, how were all of those Empyreans born? Pick [JNPL] as your mom and extract Khier from a Majin, then apply it to Psi. There's a way to apply Khier without actually having Khier, just need a story.
Anonymous No.96509624 [Report] >>96509635 >>96509651
>>96509575
Ok Erginter, you do you, I wanna live for more than 100 years though.
Anonymous No.96509626 [Report] >>96509638
>>96509618
>trying the patched loophole
Readlet kun, please read the sections on Empyreans again.
Anonymous No.96509630 [Report]
All you need to do in E Nomine is neutralize the opposition. Elder Gods are perfectly capable to bring her back.
Good luck with that though.
Anonymous No.96509631 [Report]
>>96509618
>There's a way to apply Khier without actually having Khie
Pretty sure you can't anymore, Charlie's gatekeeping Khier, because Keter used it to become an Empyrean in front of her.
Anonymous No.96509635 [Report] >>96509655
>>96509624
>he wants to live more than 75 years
This is heresy against JNPL. Don’t you want to reincarnate and ascend?
Anonymous No.96509636 [Report] >>96509729
>>96509609
Anonymous No.96509638 [Report]
>>96509626
>>96509528 's dumb enough to think Khier could Psi.
Anonymous No.96509642 [Report] >>96509676 >>96509690
>>96509618
And anon was arguing there are also ways to apply Zhivete, Zhimlya and Yee that arent "This does nothing".
"Nothing happens" is not a meaningful story.
Anonymous No.96509645 [Report]
>>96509597
>DUDE JUST MAKE KETER YOUR MOTHER AND MAKE DOBRAVA SOLO NILMATRIX AGAIN, Story? LMAO JUST WRITE SOME SHITTY THING ABOUT HER TEACHING YOU 9584838 LANCGUAGES BRO, TOTTALY MEANINGFUL.
Anonymous No.96509651 [Report]
>>96509624
COWARD!
Anonymous No.96509655 [Report] >>96509663
>>96509635
I'm sorry [JNPL]-sama. I will die of old age at 70, I will job to everyone who's not a peasant, I will marry an unnotable one, I will never change civilization. And I will be happy.
Anonymous No.96509658 [Report]
>>96509611
Dreameater's spells are written to only be castable with the method Dreameater give you, I'm not actually sure Dancer's casting method allow you to bypass Dreameater's spells' restriction. I just assumed it can since the archetype are connected, if you can't the combo isn't op, Dancer with Emboite is still good.
Anonymous No.96509662 [Report] >>96509729
>>96509609
Keter didn't had those. She successfully evaded her Buki and hindered Charlie too.
Anonymous No.96509663 [Report]
>>96509655
Actual life-goals honestly. This would be an objective life upgrade in all areas to most people right now.
Anonymous No.96509676 [Report] >>96509739
>>96509642
Isn't that because they effectively already are applied, or did some anon gaslight me into believing that?
Anonymous No.96509683 [Report]
>>96509539
Zhivete isn't about rewinding time to undo the death. That would be Psi not applying at all. Zhivete is about the death "happening", the story moving forwards without them for a time, but then later you find out that it actually didn't happen the way you thought it did.

It's Aqualad "killing" Artemis in front of the Young Justice team so that no one suspects Tigress is actually her. It's not Flash running back in time to prevent his mom's death.
Anonymous No.96509690 [Report] >>96509749 >>96509798
>>96509642
I just don't see how you can square those three, and Khier if you had access, with Psi without effectively having a new character skinwalking as [JNPL]. I don't see how the arguments fielded by those four about how someone can still be alive actually stand against Psi's Death of Author.
Anonymous No.96509717 [Report] >>96509738
>>96509601
We have an example of a resurrection in the CYOA; it just required a ritual, the remains, and that the soul be between reincarnations. It's undeath, not rebirth, but it's a reasonable guess that the holy version require those conditions + the resurrection has to be Meaningful in some way.
Anonymous No.96509720 [Report] >>96509758
You don't need to revive JNPL. If you kill Charlie once, that would be enough. You can then keep her away from JNPL's blood which prevents her from using Deus Ex Machina, and YMRD can go back to her pillar.
Anonymous No.96509729 [Report] >>96509745 >>96509753 >>96509777
>>96509616
>>96509636
>>96509662
Rereading Keter's entry: I guess I forgot the Icon of Icons thing was speculation from the "Power of Friendship" line in her mentor box.
Dirk Yesod isn't in her party either... Huh
She had so many chances to minmax an missed All of them.
Anonymous No.96509732 [Report]
If I drink JNPL blood, can I become a god?
Anonymous No.96509738 [Report] >>96509763
>>96509717
If you're talking about the resurrection of that Demon Lord, that might as well be just respawning another one like him using his template. Like some Majin are, not actually resurrection.
If it's not that, who got resurrected? I missed that.
Anonymous No.96509739 [Report]
>>96509676
>did some anon gaslight me into believing that?
This.
None of the meta letters were applied and the timeline doesn't matter to the godscript. The OR system already has options that rewrite time.
Anonymous No.96509745 [Report] >>96509767
>>96509729
She got cute kuudere though.
Do you have cute kuudere in your build, anon?
Anonymous No.96509747 [Report]
>>96508024
We will post Outer Reincarnation every day until you like it.
Anonymous No.96509749 [Report] >>96509759
>>96509690
>and Khier
Why do anons keep banging on about Khier? Goddesses already ascended, they don't need Khier!
Anonymous No.96509753 [Report]
>>96509729
Yeah, she took the meaningful path instead and managed to avoid death. Meanwhile the minmaxer got jobbed.
Anonymous No.96509754 [Report]
I feel like Oersted from Live-a-Live would be SRTR's favorite character.
Anonymous No.96509758 [Report] >>96509782
>>96509720
But I want Meaning in my every action Anon. I don't trust [YMRD] when Rhucuphre's blatantly her piece, and [SRTR] is too dumb to actually ascend anyone.
Anonymous No.96509759 [Report] >>96509790
>>96509749
They're too scared to fight Nilmatrix and actually earn their empyreality.
Anonymous No.96509763 [Report]
>>96509738
>If you're talking about the resurrection of that Demon Lord, that might as well be just respawning another one like him using his template
He's trying to manually arrange something like the respawning point encounter for himself. That's why he needs his soul to be in between resurrections.
Anonymous No.96509767 [Report] >>96509781
>>96509745
Anon, you can literally cuck her by banging her Ex, or have a threesome with both.
Anonymous No.96509777 [Report]
>>96509729
It's perfectly possible that she didn't have a chance to pick Icon or A-G.
Anonymous No.96509781 [Report]
>>96509767
But you have to be a female to take that dyke. That's gay.
Anonymous No.96509782 [Report]
>>96509758
>[SRTR] is too dumb to actually ascend anyone
>he fell for it
Anonymous No.96509790 [Report] >>96509824 >>96509849
>>96509759
>If you can't 1v1 the final boss's right hand immediately after the tutorial ends, then your build is shit
Anonymous No.96509798 [Report] >>96509813 >>96509818 >>96509853
>>96509690
>I just don't see how you can square those three
Time-warping. Literally
The 3 gods don't even exist in "Time" like the rest of us, they see the entire narrative and can erase or rewrite events out of order. The OR system literally gives you a piece of that power to play with while writing out your character intro.
The square of the circle is literally just "The entire timeline is rewritten and/or split into multiple timelines that now interact with each other".
How is this hard to understand?
Anonymous No.96509813 [Report]
>>96509798
>How is this hard to understand?
Most anons haven't watched Doctor Who when it was good.
Anonymous No.96509818 [Report] >>96509837 >>96509902
>>96509798
That's the material. I couldn't care less about the material when the world is already repeatedly said to be made out of the script. Give me an argument about how either three could continue from Psi and make an interpretation that [JNPL] is actually still alive, and preferably still [JNPL].
Anonymous No.96509823 [Report] >>96509834
>>96508972
>One was Vtorusha's mentor. He travelled the world uplifting people with her.
Then he smacked them back down so humans the world over got enslaved by other races. What a guy.
Anonymous No.96509824 [Report] >>96509848
>>96509790
>1v1
Is this why you retards hate Icon of Icons? There are several options specifically made to help you in situations like these and you're still scared.
You can't even die in this fight unless you picked a really terrible death letter.
Anonymous No.96509834 [Report] >>96509846
>>96509823
the great Vtorusha chimpout is to blame for that, not One.
Anonymous No.96509837 [Report] >>96509851 >>96509924
>>96509818
JNPL "died" but actually reincarnated as the Outsider system. A state significantly more tied to the world than her previous existence as a goddess.
Anonymous No.96509844 [Report]
>>96509597
You know there's something in between powergaming and taking something that suits your build, right? Also, you can minmax and do nothing, or heck, even purposefully gimp yourself and try to play the implied narrative.
Anonymous No.96509846 [Report]
>>96509834
He's the one who fought against her, thus be holds responsibility for the consequences of his choice.
Anonymous No.96509848 [Report] >>96509877
>>96509824
>unless you picked a really terrible death letter.
Buki or nothing
Anonymous No.96509849 [Report]
>>96509790
The secret strat is to game an encounter so that it happens only after you're ready to fight. The goblins uruk encounter is perfect for this; since generally you decide when to trigger it. (Obviously don't try to delay forever, that's how Savmak ended up where he is.)
Anonymous No.96509851 [Report]
>>96509837
So, exactly as the original questioner said, and as Tank said, doing nothing in actuality?
Anonymous No.96509853 [Report] >>96509916
>>96509798
The outsider system only writes events happening in the relative future, I don't see any instance of things in the past being re-written, after all if that could be done then why would YMRD have needed to destroy the world 4 times.

It is much more reasonable to assume that they're limited in some way, perhaps merely by willingness to pay attention while on their seats and actual vision while off of them. The world does also seem to run a background sim of events happening even without the direct attention of the godesses.
Anonymous No.96509869 [Report] >>96509880 >>96509893 >>96509903
Which Outsider had the worst gift build?
Anonymous No.96509877 [Report]
>>96509848
Even Kekter avoided Buki. You are not worse than her, right anon?
Anonymous No.96509879 [Report] >>96509894 >>96509900 >>96509910
>>96508006
It's pretty funny how you can get any ruler to abandon everything to go marry a random unnotable one and move to another continent.
Anonymous No.96509880 [Report]
>>96509869
Erginter didn't even take intelligence boosts.
Anonymous No.96509893 [Report] >>96509928 >>96509938
>>96509869
Savmak, 1x eyes mostly suck. Erginter had the worst at the start, but later she got more.
Anonymous No.96509894 [Report] >>96509923 >>96509925
>>96509879
Parents are allowed to parent from a distance; see Senamotis Sarmata. It's possible that resolves with your unnotable parent mostly single parenting you, with financial support and occasional visits from your royal parent.
Anonymous No.96509900 [Report] >>96509923
>>96509879
It's just as likely that your father got a commoner pregnant and then she was forced to escape to whatever location you picked. Remember that Fate will usually pick the path of least resistance for your choices so they usually won't end in a happy end for you if you abuse them too much.
Anonymous No.96509902 [Report] >>96509917 >>96509969 >>96510000 >>96510032 >>96510044
>>96509818
>Give me an argument about how either three could continue from Psi and make an interpretation that [JNPL] is actually still alive, and preferably still [JNPL].
>Zhivete:
The timeline is upended and retold as [CHRL] fails to kill [JNPL] with Psi, only succeeding in Changing her instead. [JNPL] is now the goddess of antagonists because she now sees that character growth can't happen without conflict.
>Zemlya:
[JNPL] rises as an undead goddess obsessed with the world she became disconnected from in her ascension. Her new goal is to enter the world and create an eternal, unchanging story .
>Yee:
[JNPL] is reincarnated as the mortal woman Juniper and has to begin ascension from the beginning. [CHRL] now has her powers nerfed, but she's also uncontested now. Juniper is now hunted by the entire world because she's now simultaneously the only hope of stopping [CHRL] and the only mortal holding the secret to true ascension.
>and preferably still [JNPL]
No. Stories without conflict have no meaning.
anon still doesn't realize the goddesses are faking their defeat and are simply directing a story by letting charlotte run free
Anonymous No.96509903 [Report] >>96509919
>>96509869
Erginter's and Aat's gamble builds aside, it's Sarmat. No respect for martials in this setting.
Anonymous No.96509905 [Report] >>96510016
>>96509470
Just because I am in the perfect position to become the Mother Goddess of Depravity doesn't mean I want to.
Anonymous No.96509910 [Report] >>96509923
>>96509879
Nothing says they'll move and live with you, just produce you and raise you kinda. Your king dad could do somewhat frequent visits to your mother and whatnot, but still live on his kingdom.
Anonymous No.96509914 [Report] >>96509934
Why the fuck would the elder gods be mad that you chose something that they specifically made for you to choose?

YMRD would be happy that you found her hidden tricks and exploits.
Anonymous No.96509916 [Report] >>96509982
>>96509853
>why would YMRD have needed to destroy the world 4 times.
Because that makes a more interesting story.
Anonymous No.96509917 [Report] >>96509940 >>96509944
>>96509902
Reversing time means you never applied the Zhivete, and time reversal is not even a valid way to trigger Zhivete in the first place. That doesn't work.
Anonymous No.96509919 [Report]
>>96509903
We can’t judge Sarmat’s build, we don’t know what most of his gifts even do.
Anonymous No.96509923 [Report]
>>96509910
>>96509900
>>96509894
Fair and logicale, but isn't funny
Anonymous No.96509924 [Report] >>96509969
>>96509837
Still doesn't fulfill the requirements of 2/3 meta-letters.
Anonymous No.96509925 [Report]
>>96509894
Neither of Erginter's parents were even present for her birth.
Anonymous No.96509926 [Report]
If you Never Alone + True Love Omega. Is it oneeshota?
Anonymous No.96509928 [Report]
>>96509893
>1x eyes mostly suck.
They suck compared to their X2 version but that's because most don't take them with Multiocular O. Being able to switch all those at will would be a great benefit.
Anonymous No.96509930 [Report]
>>96509122
I wanted to add necromancy to my build (Faina) but I didn't really have the points/slots to add Herleva or Seo as a Mentor, take Inga or Tamura as a Companion, or give myself double Deathless Grasp (and I'd want double because constantly refreshing it is annoying.) If I was willing to go Dark Elf and Adoption Thaumiel I'd be able to swing it but I'm honestly attached to my dad even if I complained about him when first making my build.
>>96509315
She didn't go halfbreed so not quite.
Anonymous No.96509934 [Report] >>96509943
>>96509914
This is just shit the author overlooked, stop trying to justify shitty exploits just so you can pretent to be smarter than everyone because you read a reddit post.
Anonymous No.96509938 [Report] >>96510040
>>96509893
Tank said Savmak had the opportunity to take All-Glimpse, but he instead went with a ton of shitty eyes. The fool.
Anonymous No.96509940 [Report] >>96510009
>>96509917
Anon, you aren't part of the narrative yet. You only enter the narrative after you close the OR system and enter the story.
Your essentially arguing Doctor Who should stop existing any time he changes the timeline, despite not being part of the timeline when he's in the TARDIS.
Anonymous No.96509943 [Report] >>96509999
>>96509934
>This is just shit the author overlooked
rumao
Anonymous No.96509944 [Report] >>96510009
>>96509917
You're still thinking of things like there's only one timeline.
Multiverse Time-Travel Theory anon, Look it up!
Anonymous No.96509958 [Report]
>>96509013
>4/7 are sages. 5/7 have New & Old.
didnt know we had so many techchads in cyoag. what gives?
Anonymous No.96509969 [Report] >>96510047
>>96509924
This guy >>96509902 already explained Zhivete with
>[CHRL] fails to kill [JNPL] with Psi, only succeeding in Changing her instead
Which still applies here
Anonymous No.96509982 [Report]
>>96509916
It really doesn't, it simply removes an entire settings worth of lore which could be used as backdrop for future stories after the other races have died out.

They are very explicitly not capable of unwriting what has already been written and can't create things from nothing so total destruction is a bigger limit than just carrying on.
Anonymous No.96509987 [Report] >>96509994 >>96510020
>>96507312 (OP)
>Ideal: Hero

>Blessings:
Indomitable
Ascent
Bank Of Souls
Noosphere
Unity
Metempsychosis

>Burdens:
Billions Must Die
I Would Win

>Races:
Humans
Humanlike Angels
Fairies
Hybrid [Esoteric Angels/Dragons]

>Regular Followers:
Civillian
Mount
Warrior
Neophyte
Craftsman
Archer
Miner

>Higher Followers:
Knight
Ranger
Illusionist
Artisan
Alchemist
Healer
Captain
Sapper
Giant
Ritualist

>Exemplar Followers:
Thaumaturge
General
Grandmaster
Artillery
Oracle

>Dead Vassals:
Pharas
Duke Ulman
Attempt Seven (Teles The Golden)
Larav
Marin
The Whispering Stag

Fairly straightforward build. Traits let me have a degree of omnipresence, and I can resurrect dead units for half the cost, letting me hold onto valuable veterans. I didn't see the need for more than a good combined-arms army; Knights form the spine, warriors fill out the rank and file, archers and artillery provides provide ranged support while rangers are amazing when used with the Noosphere trait. Illusionists control the battlefield, while I have magic support with my ritualists and thaumaturgists, but no real magical presence aside from that. The rest are for supporting my forces in various ways, Exemplars really being delegated to enhancing the rest of the units. We don't really have much in the way of champion-killers outside of perhaps giants, but my Ideal handily covers that role.

My races weren't really important to me, humans are just generally useful as low-income units, while angels and fae are good as mages or high-end units. The strategy with vassals is to divide and conquer as much as possible, and sow chaos within the leadership. As long as the archdemons are fighting each other, they can't focus on mine own, letting my weaker units pick win the war of attrition. For example, with Attempt Seven dead at the hands of Teles, his already weakened domain will be further weakened, which might just provide the opportunity Wrath needs to decide to take vengeance.
Anonymous No.96509993 [Report] >>96510102
>>96507845
Didn't actually read this before, the logic of it seems odd. Insofar as making war is largely a function of one's ability to apply physical harm, and modern technology/guns unquestionably provides that far above 'guys with swords and armor,' saying that actually having modern+ tech doesn't provide that strong of an advantage seems like it implicitly would suggest also that the ordinary physical warriors, guys with blades or bows, (i.e. absolutely every soldier that regular humanity can field) is going to be rather ineffective in defense.

Based on the description of New and Old itself, I would have presumed the more limiting factor is the fact that some degree of personal involvement in technology is required. This represents in fact a kind of interesting reversal, as ordinarily the great distinction between magic and technology in a setting is that the former is intrinsically linked to a small number of 'special' people who have to make it happen, while technology is purely process-based, and can be far more easily universalized, spread out to everyone. Whereas in this, you can at least summon lots of mages who do their magical thing wherever needed, but making technology work is limited to JUST YOU. Even if we do suppose that's a final touch, "wave your hand over the pile of guns to activate them," it still limits the reach of technology substantially compared to what it is in our Earth, and even compared to magic. Combined with the risk of tools falling into enemy hands, that seemed to me enough to provide balance it being genuinely far more effective than guys with swords.
Anonymous No.96509994 [Report]
>>96509987
>Examples For Races (Just For Fun):
My Form: Surprisingly human-looking half-dragon, sacrificing my elemental breath and scales for a heightened esoteric ability, embodying the virtue of Fortitude; strength in soul and body comes with every superior foe faced unwavering, every wound taken and un-parried blow feeling this growth until the enemy can be overcome.

Fae Noble Illusionist: Attached to a roving ranger band, this Duke Of Red Leaves takes the form of a beautiful, androgynous elf, face shifting every time one looks away. While haughty and seemingly possessing of an instinctive talent for insulting his escort, his cruelty is reserved alone for the demonic forces he encounters. It seems this nobleman has an obsession with practical jokes; while it would be simple to hide them among the foliage, demons instead almost always fall victim to what can only be described as pranks, though the arrows planting themselves in distracted throats are no less deadlier for it.

Human Oracle: While blind, the Sight of this seer has not been hindered in the slightest. If anything, the woman may have benefitted from it. Spindly and gaunt, it's clear from a glance that she spends her waking hours locked in her chambers, divining the threads of the future with careful precision, overlooking nothing. She knows even the smallest of things can promise great victory, or certain doom. Only when certain does she remove herself, presenting her findings to aid the greater war effort. Hopefully, someone reminds her to eat this time.
Anonymous No.96509999 [Report] >>96510015
>>96509943
That one is fine and, as he said in other post, will likely give the Empireality to Dobrava, not you. Did he ever say anything about Keter/Thaumiel other than "I guess It works"?
Anonymous No.96510000 [Report]
>>96509902
I think that's valid enough, and I'll have to think if I want to write Psi counter-arguments, but
>metaworld bullshit
is the highest grade copium that only an Outsider siding with the Gods could take. The moment you start believing that the only ones who hold any Meaning at all are the Gods is the moment you ape the worst of Malkuthian zealots through completely novel methods.
Anonymous No.96510009 [Report] >>96510069
>>96509940
You are absolutely part of the narrative. You have been since you died a thousand years ago; they've just had you in Outsider System the entire time. "All of the seats were filled from the start, it's only a question of awakening one for each iteration." Souls are held outside of the world but not outside time between reincarnations, see Remember the Demon.

>>96509944
Every time the Old Throne reverses time, the aborted future is ejected as dream, which becomes nightmare after mixing with the dead dragons. Or, alternatively, the future never actually happened at all, it was all just precognition and the leaked dream is the overflow of more future-divinity than the throne-user's mind can take in, thanks to the sheer amount of godscript-reading that precognition required. Unclear which is true, but either way there's only one timeline at a time. The metaphysical camera is showing us all the same movie.
Anonymous No.96510015 [Report] >>96510048 >>96510084
>>96509999
Is there anything preventing you from recruiting Gunter's companions for yourself? I want Empyrean Dobrava and to kill Nilmatrix.
Anonymous No.96510016 [Report] >>96510033
>>96509905
Mother Goddess of Depravity;
Origin of Evil;
The Indestructible;
Goddess of Origin;
Mother of All;
Brood Hive of Filth;
Sovereign of the Physical World

Blue Mage
Blue Mage
Champion
Artificer
Artificer
Blue Mage
Champion

It really does fit perfectly...
Anonymous No.96510020 [Report] >>96510165
>>96509987
Blessings:(-2-1-2-1-1-1)=(-8)
Burdens:(2+1)=(3)
Explain in detail
Anonymous No.96510032 [Report]
>>96509902
>[JNPL] is reincarnated as the mortal woman Juniper and has to begin ascension from the beginning. [CHRL] now has her powers nerfed, but she's also uncontested now. Juniper is now hunted by the entire world because she's now simultaneously the only hope of stopping [CHRL] and the only mortal holding the secret to true ascension.
This sounds interesting, maybe she'll go with that after Charlie's dead if you don't take E Nomine. No need to waste a good plot hook.
Anonymous No.96510033 [Report]
>>96510016
Wait for LotM CYOA to leave the oven first, Anon.
Anonymous No.96510037 [Report]
Charlie replaced the Pokoy in [JNPL] with Psi.
Pokoy is calm/peace/death, Psi is afterlife.

Using Psi is also how Charlie created Evdokia.
Anonymous No.96510040 [Report]
>>96509938
Why would he need to when you can IGY his descendant and he'll get it for free in exchange for being your companion?
Anonymous No.96510044 [Report]
>>96509902
>Yee restarts the process of ascension
Explicitly not how reincarnation works, anon
Anonymous No.96510047 [Report] >>96510058 >>96510059
>>96509969
>Which still applies here
No it doesn't. [JNPL] is very explicitly dead, which isn't compatible with the effect of Zhivete.
Your equating "Dead" and "Not Dead" as if they were the same thing.
Anonymous No.96510048 [Report]
>>96510015
Maybe fate making them his companion and making it so he constantly appears before you? If there's no fate guarantee companions stick around (which I'm not sure if it's a thing), nothing should stop you from recruiting them all, including Gunter.
Anonymous No.96510058 [Report]
>>96510047
Transformation is death as far as the Outsider system is concerned.
Anonymous No.96510059 [Report] >>96510068 >>96510076
>>96510047
He's going to reply with time travel, as if time travel is compatible with Zhivete. He's going to ignore everyone who tells him why that's wrong. It's happened twice already.
Anonymous No.96510068 [Report]
>>96510059
How do you even read everything and come out of it thinking I'm the other guy?
Anonymous No.96510069 [Report] >>96510094
>>96510009
>you died a thousand years ago
Proof?
Anonymous No.96510076 [Report]
>>96510059
>Pssst, you reread the convo
>You're replying to the timetravel anon
Anonymous No.96510078 [Report]
>the 11th didn't take clearminded
lmao ngmi
Anonymous No.96510079 [Report] >>96510097
I'm really curious if Cuttlefish can release the remaining rituals and powers faster than Tank can make his LOTM cyoa.
Anonymous No.96510084 [Report] >>96510118
>>96510015
Fate has to play out as it's written, so they'll meet Gunter and meaningfully interact with him. As long as you resolve that, nothing's saying you can't arrange a permanent team-up. I'd even say it's likely if you're planning a big final battle; the protagonist and his rival standing together at the end is a classic trope.
Anonymous No.96510090 [Report]
>>96508672
Cry about it Cucklander. The Mudfish will inherit the world!
Anonymous No.96510091 [Report]
Is this guy STILL freaking out that his "perfect beat 0^0 while making my build" plot turned out to not work?
Anonymous No.96510094 [Report] >>96510101
>>96510069
I gave you a quote directly from the CYOA that flat out says the seats were filled from the start. The first seat was awakened a thousand years ago. What more proof do you need?
Anonymous No.96510097 [Report]
>>96510079
Anonymous No.96510101 [Report] >>96510114
>>96510094
That doesn't mean I'm already dead, they could just have a bookmark on my soul and are going to snatch it when it's my time to debut in the story.
Anonymous No.96510102 [Report]
>>96509993
Yeah, you were wrong, you're supposed to use Mages and Magic Guys with Swords, dummy.
Anonymous No.96510106 [Report] >>96510112 >>96510115 >>96510137 >>96510147
Why didn't Erginter try to steal the Savmak sword?
Just look at all those juicy gifts...
Anonymous No.96510112 [Report] >>96510125
>>96510106
She did, anon.
Anonymous No.96510114 [Report] >>96510126
>>96510101
That's wouldn't be "awakening" you.
Anonymous No.96510115 [Report] >>96510125
>>96510106
She did.
Anonymous No.96510118 [Report] >>96510133
>>96510084
>the protagonist and his rival standing together at the end is a classic trope
Pure, unfiltered, meaningful Kino. Too bad most people just take Gunter for exploiting Nilmatrix.
Anonymous No.96510125 [Report] >>96510135
>>96510112
>>96510115
Then why didn't the 11th take the sword? Is he stupid?
Anonymous No.96510126 [Report] >>96510154
>>96510114
Technically if they snatch my soul at that moment, they're killing me, or I'm already destined to die then, and thus incarnating me at all in their world is awakening me.
Anonymous No.96510132 [Report] >>96510144
If you only need to buy Everlasting because of 0^0 being a nigger, why did Savmak take it too?
Anonymous No.96510133 [Report] >>96510146
>>96510118
Please understand anon, I need all 3 companion slots. If I had 1 more then I'd take him.
Anonymous No.96510135 [Report]
>>96510125
I did? Savmak is in my build.
Anonymous No.96510137 [Report]
>>96510106
How is he so perfect?
Anonymous No.96510144 [Report]
>>96510132
He didn't buy it, he was granted it. It's listed in the builds of all the Outsiders who were given it, including Charlotte.
Anonymous No.96510146 [Report] >>96510187
>>96510133
Just give him one of the chicks you took, don't be too greedy, anon.
Anonymous No.96510147 [Report]
>>96510106
If she was actually interested in the deeplore she may not necessary lose the patron god even despite her villainous ways.
Anonymous No.96510154 [Report] >>96510171
>>96510126
I suppose. I think that's twisting a pretty clear story to fit a headcanon that is unsupported by the text, but if it makes you happy have fun anon.
Anonymous No.96510163 [Report] >>96510169 >>96510178
>katya's build is just random x1's, and basic caster package + martial instinct and bestial strength
meaningfags are gonna get ketered
Anonymous No.96510165 [Report]
>>96510020
Oh... I guess I'll take off Indomitable.
Anonymous No.96510169 [Report] >>96510198
>>96510163
I would live to get Ketered.
Anonymous No.96510171 [Report] >>96510182 >>96510207
>>96510154
I just think me dying 1000 years ago is weird, because it means OR is taking place in this world while our world is in the year 3022-25.
Anonymous No.96510178 [Report] >>96510198
>>96510163
>get Ketered
You mean survive Buki, hamper the main villain, and be there for the next outsider? Sounds like a good deal.
Anonymous No.96510182 [Report]
>>96510171
There's nothing saying that time runs the same between the two worlds.
Anonymous No.96510187 [Report]
>>96510146
They're all essential to my build
Anonymous No.96510198 [Report] >>96510217 >>96510223 >>96510245
>>96510169
>>96510178
Keter only survived via eye of fore + empyreality corpse running.
The elves did all the damage.

(you) have neither elves nor empyreality
Anonymous No.96510207 [Report] >>96510224
>>96510171
It might be that Earth is long gone, and this is the new world that the Pillars made.
Anonymous No.96510217 [Report]
>>96510198
She also didnt had Empyreality at the start of her build. The same exploit may not work again, but someone who found one might very well find another, especially with more experience.
Anonymous No.96510223 [Report]
>>96510198
>(you) have neither elves nor empyreality
Wrong, I have 4 elves and empyreality if I kill Nilmatrix
Anonymous No.96510224 [Report]
>>96510207
This world's timeline didn't start 1000 years ago though, we have elven records and history going back at least 3000 more before that.
Anonymous No.96510240 [Report] >>96510272
How do you guys think Keter stacks up against Nilmatrix?
Anonymous No.96510245 [Report] >>96510255
>>96510198
I actually meant getting romantic and sexual encounter with Keter where she is the one who initiate it with slightly forceable approach.
Anonymous No.96510249 [Report] >>96510262 >>96510290 >>96510351 >>96510368
what do Soul Revolving and Luminescence of Man do?
Anonymous No.96510255 [Report]
>>96510245
Same ngl
Guess I just have to seduce a lesbo instead somehow
Anonymous No.96510262 [Report]
>>96510249
Both were 10-point gifts
Anonymous No.96510272 [Report] >>96510279
>>96510240
Nilmatrix backstabbing her is how she lost the fight with 0^0.
Anonymous No.96510279 [Report]
>>96510272
Yeah, but how does she stack up in an actual fight?
Anonymous No.96510290 [Report] >>96510315
>>96510249
My guess on Soul Revolving is that it's One's Everlasting modified by Mithra's teachings. Doesn't make sense for him to not get it, and he lived pretty long and was still pretty swole not to have a Lifespan gift.
Anonymous No.96510295 [Report] >>96510324 >>96510397 >>96510494
Aat received the patronage of two elder gods by appealing to both of them. He was a seeker of secret knowledge who kept rolling dice even though he only got ones, and found a way to beat the odds anyways -- a paragon of YMRD. He was a perpetual underdog and an honorable yet terrifying villain who provided the world with centuries of epic conflict -- a paragon of SRTR. The world is worse for his loss.

Erginter lost the patronage of her only god, and failed to appeal to any. YMRD loves those who find hidden secrets, including exploits, but she does not love those who find one secret and stop, satisfied with their victory. Curiosity is love for the world, but Erginter was not curious. SRTR may have enjoyed Erginter as a villain, or even as an anti-hero, but Erginter did not choose SRTR's patronage in the Outsider system, nor did she seek SRTR's patronage after entering the world.

The moral of this story is that you can do whatever you want, but if you want to be successful, you should know what you want and pursue it. Walking a confused path leads only to confused results. Be the best version of yourself, and do not apologize for it.
Anonymous No.96510315 [Report] >>96510342
>>96510290
>Everlasting

He fell for JNPL's meme as well and wanted to follow in the steps of his teacher. Life extension isn't a problem for a legendary caster.
Anonymous No.96510324 [Report] >>96510344
>>96510295
>who kept rolling dice even though he only got ones
No, he didn't choose to roll anything. He was just forced into bad situations by chance.
Anonymous No.96510342 [Report]
>>96510315
Insane aura loss if he actually fell for it.
Anonymous No.96510344 [Report]
>>96510324
Arguably true for his early life, but he was Xian for more time than he was Aat. And even as Aat, he chose to fight back when he could have obeyed.
Anonymous No.96510351 [Report] >>96510364
>>96510249
>what do Soul Revolving and Luminescence of Man do?
I'm guessing they revolved souls and luminesced men.
Anonymous No.96510364 [Report]
>>96510351
Just like godhand is god's hand
Anonymous No.96510368 [Report]
>>96510249
Soul revolving is a being revolver with souls instead of bullets.

I will not be elaborating.
Anonymous No.96510372 [Report]
>>96508176
>Hand of Infinity: Causes any action the user would perform with that hand to generate a significant pool of possibilities as if that action had been performed with minor variations. The action resolves as the user would have chosen from the entire pool.
>Charlotte's Autoantecedence: The pool now expands to include possibilities from up to one second forward or backward in time.
>Sunstride: The user generates inner radiance from momentum or accomplishing goals, causing the user to appear grander and more inspiring to others. Inner radiance diminishes from inaction or a negative emotional state.
Anonymous No.96510397 [Report] >>96510438 >>96510449
>>96510295
>SRTR may have enjoyed Erginter as a villain, or even as an anti-hero, but Erginter did not choose SRTR's patronage in the Outsider system, nor did she seek SRTR's patronage after entering the world.
The only real big thing Erginter did was defeating Inga Yesod who was a much more interesting and clever person than Erginter.
Other than that, it is likely that most of her adventures were low threat ones where she just hunted and killed people who could not threaten her for their gifts. She did also kill Yphont but Yphont was mostly a peaceful scholar-diplomat so that hardly was anything entertaining.
You could say she did more to rob the world of potential, stories and personalities to satisfy her solo leveling fetish. That's very anti-SRTR.
Anonymous No.96510438 [Report]
>>96510397
Inga was seriously op with her time-travelling marionette and crazy levels of necromancy.
Anonymous No.96510449 [Report] >>96510464
>>96510397
I wonder if, after rolling for Sarmat and Tuzik, who are two very boring Outsiders on the grand scheme of things, [SRTR] ended up opening a Rival Tide or something to Inga.
Anonymous No.96510464 [Report] >>96510480
>>96510449
>Sarmat
SRTR is openly gushing over Sarmat on the Outsiders page, she loved that dude.
Anonymous No.96510480 [Report]
>>96510464
He handled her plots, that's true, but he didn't really spawn more plots.
Anonymous No.96510481 [Report] >>96511102
>>96509013
New & Old is overrated. Guns won't do shit against the Archdemons.
Anonymous No.96510494 [Report]
>>96510295
Wasn't Erginter the only one who had the patronage of no gods at all? And people still say minmaxxing is meaningful.
Anonymous No.96510495 [Report] >>96510520 >>96510534 >>96510778
Anonymous No.96510496 [Report] >>96510759 >>96510772 >>96510882 >>96510904 >>96511288
>>96508006
https://rentry.co/ORbuildrate1
I have added 18 more rating to the build ratings
I think that's almost all of them, except the solo builds and anyone who used the keter trick
I fully endorse and support anyone re-rating or rating on different criteria, this is in no way meant to be definitive
Anonymous No.96510513 [Report] >>96510528 >>96510531 >>96510537 >>96510560 >>96510571 >>96510640
An encounter where you are challenged by the dream-manifestations of previous outsiders would be kino. One's challenge would be a wisdom-check philosophical puzzle. Vtorusha, an epic mech duel. Aat, an intelligence-check fantasy chess match. Erginter, a straightforward boss fight. Etc...
Anonymous No.96510520 [Report] >>96510529 >>96510535 >>96510767
>>96510495
Autist is not only the most moral, but also the hottest
This isn't balanced in the slightest
Anonymous No.96510528 [Report]
>>96510513
>Tuzik challenges you to grow the biggest radish
Anonymous No.96510529 [Report] >>96510620
>>96510520
she's bitchy
PASS
Anonymous No.96510531 [Report] >>96510548
>>96510513
>Tuvik challenges you to see who can milk a cow better
It's over for me.
Anonymous No.96510534 [Report] >>96510767
>>96510495
YMRD gives the best power if you pick her, causes no death and suffering, and is tied for the hottest one. This selection is not fair.
Anonymous No.96510535 [Report]
>>96510520
What did Tankista mean by this?
Anonymous No.96510537 [Report] >>96510578
>>96510513
I would prefer an encounter with a dream-manifestation of hero Charlotte.
Anonymous No.96510548 [Report]
>>96510531
By cow he means local cow beastfolk ladies. All while you smoke pipe and drink together.
Anonymous No.96510560 [Report] >>96510575
>>96510513
Actually good
Put this on reddit or discord so tank reads it
Anonymous No.96510571 [Report]
>>96510513
>buff mental gifts even more
Anonymous No.96510575 [Report] >>96510579
>>96510560
Why doesn't he give us attention when we have the most insightful conversations?
Like which companion has the best breasts
Anonymous No.96510578 [Report]
>>96510537
>Charlotte's challenge is just a romantic picnic on a sunny beach.
Fund it!
Anonymous No.96510579 [Report] >>96510586 >>96510624 >>96510666
>>96510575
We have a wife tier list but no pure breast list
Someone needs to get on that
Anonymous No.96510581 [Report] >>96510596 >>96510609
>>96508006
Is OR magic as bullshit as Magocratic Convention magic?

https://imgchest.com/p/dl7p85wojyo
Anonymous No.96510586 [Report] >>96510604 >>96510657
>>96510579
>wife tier list
And it's a shit list
Anonymous No.96510596 [Report]
>>96510581
>OR magic is just Umineko'd Eragon
>Magocratic Convention magic is just fancier TTRPGs
Checkmate magicfags
Anonymous No.96510601 [Report] >>96510671
>>96508234
What did she do?
Anonymous No.96510603 [Report] >>96510614 >>96510616 >>96510635 >>96510648 >>96510709
How come there have been no builds focused on getting Icon of Icons, then having a companion generate some majin for you?
Anonymous No.96510604 [Report] >>96510639
>>96510586
It was perfect
Make a better one, grognard
Anonymous No.96510609 [Report]
>>96510581
Not even close. OR barely even has time travel, and the best form of immortality has multiple straightforward counters.
Anonymous No.96510614 [Report]
>>96510603
Because thats a very weak focus
Anyone can come up with more elaborate combos and cooler asthetics
Anonymous No.96510616 [Report]
>>96510603
They wouldn't really be your friends or like you, just extremely loyal. Better to just take Royal Claim+Noble Inclination and be a good ruler.
Anonymous No.96510620 [Report]
>>96510529
You will never fuck Charlotte
Anonymous No.96510623 [Report]
magictards are insufferable
Anonymous No.96510624 [Report]
>>96510579
Let's leave that in mcyoag. We don't need to replicate the worst parts wholesale.
Anonymous No.96510635 [Report]
>>96510603
Because I would rather be the demon lord in this scenario
Anonymous No.96510639 [Report] >>96510676 >>96510681
>>96510604
>Techfags
>Gunfags
>Magicfags
>Martialfags
Which are the worse?
Anonymous No.96510640 [Report]
>>96510513
>Sarmat's challenge is an attentiveness-check masquerade ball where you have to solve a murder mystery.
k-kino!
Anonymous No.96510648 [Report]
>>96510603
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/text/"Icon%20of%20Icons"%20maou
There have been quite a few. They just didn't bother spelling it out.
Anonymous No.96510657 [Report] >>96510682
>>96510586
I want to see yours.
Anonymous No.96510666 [Report]
>>96510579
Flat is best.
Anonymous No.96510668 [Report] >>96510680
Luminescence of Man + Icon of Icons + Noble Inclination + Pukluxun + Zhuchka = god emperor
Anonymous No.96510671 [Report] >>96510855
>>96510601
Raped one of their other sisters.
Anonymous No.96510676 [Report] >>96510689
>>96510639
>Techfags
>Gunfags
Why did you repeat the same thing twice?
Anonymous No.96510680 [Report] >>96510691
>>96510668
>Omega Heresy
Anonymous No.96510681 [Report]
>>96510639
>the worse
Gunfags are the worst. Then magicfags.
Martialchads and Techchads clear.
Anonymous No.96510682 [Report] >>96510708 >>96510733
>>96510657
I'm too much of a readlet to read all the chicks, but that list had some shitty people at the top from what I remember.
Anonymous No.96510689 [Report] >>96510705
>>96510676
/k/ and /sci/ are not the same board
Anonymous No.96510691 [Report]
>>96510680
Remember to choose Lyudi + Zemlya for maximum lore accuracy :)
Anonymous No.96510695 [Report] >>96510719 >>96510735 >>96510737 >>96510776
Has any Dark Elf build come up with how they're going to fix the Eternal Curse?
Anonymous No.96510705 [Report] >>96510722
>>96510689
/sci/ is literally just /x/
Anonymous No.96510708 [Report] >>96510723 >>96510726 >>96510729 >>96510786
>>96510682
He put Thaumiel in S-tier. That's how trash the list was.
Anonymous No.96510709 [Report]
>>96510603
Fun fact: the Toybox has 2 Icons of Icons and 2 Daemonhosts.
Anonymous No.96510719 [Report]
>>96510695
I'm afraid that fixing the eternal curse is not an insular language bonus. So it's impossible.
Anonymous No.96510722 [Report]
>>96510705
Yes, and /x/ is just r/Jesus
Anonymous No.96510723 [Report] >>96510786
>>96510708
Which list?
Anonymous No.96510726 [Report] >>96510826 >>96512368
>>96510708
I really hope everyone who said they think Thaumiel is a kuudere was just joking
Anonymous No.96510729 [Report]
>>96510708
Holy, it's even WORSE than I remember. He must've been baiting.
Anonymous No.96510733 [Report]
>>96510682
You can do a partial list
Anonymous No.96510735 [Report]
>>96510695
>fix the Eternal Curse?
Tenyota + Inner Vision then spread the spell to everybody. It doesn't solve the unfeeling issue but it eliminates the inherent deadliness of the curse.
Anonymous No.96510737 [Report]
>>96510695
I feel like it'd be easier to fix it as a non-dark elf, Some anon came up with a theory for how Aat/Xian came up with the eternal curse so you could use that as inspiration for how to fix it.
Anonymous No.96510759 [Report] >>96510860
>>96510496
Could you update for the latest version of my build pretty please anon?
https://rentry.co/qoppathetalyudiupdate
Anonymous No.96510767 [Report] >>96510790 >>96510824
>>96510520
>>96510534
I re-balanced it for you
Anonymous No.96510772 [Report]
>>96510496
Someone should probably rate the solo builds, since they got left out of this one.
Anonymous No.96510776 [Report] >>96510796
>>96510695
My dark elf build relies on Eternal Curse to ignore Bitter Sickness, fixing it would be actively detrimental.
Anonymous No.96510778 [Report]
>>96510495
SRTR has the lowest kill count by far. Think about it.
Anonymous No.96510786 [Report] >>96510788 >>96510798 >>96510799 >>96510831 >>96510859 >>96511090
>>96510708
>>96510723
This list, Labeled wife tier list, has thaumiel down under "Never ever" and does not have an s tier
I, as author, will note that this is organised left to right, meaning thau is 5th to last
Anonymous No.96510788 [Report] >>96510805
>>96510786
>Wouldn't
>Inga
Bad taste.
Anonymous No.96510790 [Report] >>96510816
>>96510767
Now you just made her a cute kuudere
Anonymous No.96510792 [Report]
>Eternal Curse

How about Nezvana's trick? The curse doesn't work when they're below their "prime" age.
Anonymous No.96510796 [Report] >>96510936
>>96510776
>Eternal Curse to ignore Bitter Sickness
Nope

>(redditor)"also, how f*cked up would you say someone with bitter sickness and Eternal curse be?"
>(tankista) "Pretty fucked up. This would likely be even harder to cure."
Anonymous No.96510798 [Report] >>96510815
>>96510786
>Rhuncuphre not taking her rightful place at the peak.
She's going to gaslight you into killing your own harem Anon.
Anonymous No.96510799 [Report]
>>96510786
>cute kuudere not in Head Wife group
trash
Anonymous No.96510805 [Report] >>96510819 >>96510851 >>96510878
>>96510788
She is both a narcissist (The bad kind) and a dead body in a doll, what are you hoping to get out of that?
Anonymous No.96510815 [Report] >>96510829
>>96510798
She could literally just pretend to be a higher rated wife
Anonymous No.96510816 [Report]
>>96510790
That's intended, it's in the source material
Anonymous No.96510819 [Report] >>96510830
>>96510805
>Narcissist
Wrong, she was objectively doing the right thing fighting the Nightmare.
>Dead body in a doll
Zombie + doll joins = erotic
Anonymous No.96510824 [Report] >>96510919
>>96510767
That still isn't very balenced
Anonymous No.96510826 [Report]
>>96510726
How is she not a kuudere? If she isn't a kuudere what is she. She is quiet.
Anonymous No.96510829 [Report]
>>96510815
She could, but that doesn't erase the fact that she should've been there in the first place.
Anonymous No.96510830 [Report] >>96510839
>>96510819
>Zombie + doll joins = erotic
This nigga gets his rocks off to pinocchio.
Anonymous No.96510831 [Report] >>96510847
>>96510786
>Charlie: Dateable
>Omega: not on top
>Keter that low
>Reddit joke ghost at top
>Rhucuphre that high
>Wouldn't Maou
Yikes!
Anonymous No.96510839 [Report] >>96510853
>>96510830
Pinocchio isn't a zombie, anon,
Anonymous No.96510847 [Report] >>96510862
>>96510831
You are blind to life
You will never get it

You are forever trapped by your inadequacy, only able to eat what another has chewed for you
Anonymous No.96510851 [Report]
>>96510805
Her virtues are often misconstrued as failings of her character.
What she has is not pride — but dignity.
Not jealousy — but strong sense of justice.
Not greed — but ambition.
Loyal and regal. Mysterious.
Anonymous No.96510853 [Report] >>96510867
>>96510839
He's a puppet brought to life, he's basically a wooden zombie.
Anonymous No.96510855 [Report] >>96510863
>>96510671
Why did the sister not like it. What about family bonding.
Anonymous No.96510859 [Report] >>96510879
>>96510786
>Du'um that low
I can't believe you failed to recognise the true kuudere anon.
Anonymous No.96510860 [Report] >>96510876
>>96510759
Just the link or did you change something?
Anonymous No.96510862 [Report]
>>96510847
Silly Outsider, i can't be blind, I have All-Glimpse.
Anonymous No.96510863 [Report] >>96510895
>>96510855
Because that sister is literally the only female in their entire family who wasn't a lesbian, even their mom is one.
Anonymous No.96510867 [Report]
>>96510853
That's not how that works.
Anonymous No.96510876 [Report] >>96512883
>>96510860
Yes, I added some stuff (Pukluxun mostly) and did the write up of 32 of the 45 majin (The undone ones are because I couldn't theme around a letter with unknown meaning)
Anonymous No.96510878 [Report]
>>96510805
>this dude can't get off hot doll joints and perfect porcelain like skin
Reddit is two blocks down
Anonymous No.96510879 [Report]
>>96510859
I don't think they're a bad person, I just don't want to marry them
Anonymous No.96510882 [Report] >>96510892 >>96510901 >>96510924
>>96510496
>and anyone who used the keter trick
Why aren't you rating them? The trick is cheap, granted, but they still made builds.
Anonymous No.96510892 [Report] >>96510924
>>96510882
Same reason he didn't rate solos.
Anonymous No.96510895 [Report] >>96510905
>>96510863
Wait where does it say their mom is into girls?
Anonymous No.96510901 [Report] >>96510928
>>96510882
It's also very gay. No one wants to rate same builds all over.
Anonymous No.96510904 [Report] >>96510963
>>96510496
>You have 12 people above "High priority" to learn from and each one will take atleast 2 months or so

Probably longer even with all the shortcuts, because language barrier is a thing and my selection of them is not great. I'll try to speed it up with custom ctreated tutor Majin supplemented by a direct mind reading, but extracting Meaning from someone thinking in completely different terms is difficult. Starsight is also of limited help here.

That said, I am not in a hurry to fight Charlie. I am not going to do it at all, she is a wonderful distraction. So the "High Priority" list mostly consists of the knowledge I need to nab as fast as possible, while its holders are still alive and easier to locate, then archive for study in the coming decades.

Not having to worry about old age coupled with a time travelling chair allows to take the long view.
Anonymous No.96510905 [Report] >>96510923
>>96510895
One of the villains, Ethelgytha, is their mom's lover.
Anonymous No.96510919 [Report]
>>96510824
Unfortunate, but hard to change without twisting the source material. YMRD is just the best girl
Anonymous No.96510923 [Report] >>96510930
>>96510905
So everyone in that kingdom is bi. What is wrong with that sister? Does she need to go to a straight conversion camp?
Anonymous No.96510924 [Report] >>96510933 >>96510939 >>96510991
>>96510882
I just don't care?
I don't have any obligation, and I don't think someone using such a trick should care or be rated against others. They sacrificed meaning and their place in the world for power, at best they should be rated amongst themselves
>>96510892
I didn't rate solo's because they are slightly harder to rate, and have fewer interactions
I might do them later for that one guy who asked
Anonymous No.96510928 [Report] >>96511191
>>96510901
I'll admit I didn't read them - but since the trick is meant to get more points IIRC, the end results is probably different from one person to the next, right?
Anonymous No.96510930 [Report]
>>96510923
Random variance, anon.
Anonymous No.96510933 [Report] >>96510953
>>96510924
>They sacrificed meaning
Anonymous No.96510936 [Report]
>>96510796
Sure. This is the trick though - I am not going to cure it. I am perpetually stuck with a low endurance and foul moods, but can't feel any pain or change in appearance due to that. Moods can be somewhat helped by meditation, the rest I can live with.
Anonymous No.96510939 [Report] >>96510953
>>96510924
>Meaningfag
Opinion discarded.
Anonymous No.96510953 [Report] >>96510960 >>96510974
>>96510933
>>96510939
I don't think it will make them weaker, it's just booooorrrrriiiinnnnnnnngggggg
They have no texture to them
Anonymous No.96510960 [Report]
>>96510953
Keter's breasts have nice texture and meaning to them.
Anonymous No.96510963 [Report]
>>96510904
God I like you
Anonymous No.96510974 [Report] >>96510994 >>96511011
>>96510953
They're not boring. They're using exploits to push a build to its limit.
Anonymous No.96510991 [Report]
>>96510924
>I just don't care?
rightly ignored, basing one's build on thread pointmaxxing meta is indeed lame and gay
Anonymous No.96510994 [Report] >>96510998 >>96511023
>>96510974
They are using a copy paste exploit that reduces their childhood to numbers
I can tell when I am being bored
Anonymous No.96510998 [Report]
>>96510994
True 0^0 disciples.
Anonymous No.96511001 [Report] >>96511044
Anyone remember if the Lusus Naturae social menace review thing ever dropped? I was randomly reminded of it and can't find it.
Anonymous No.96511003 [Report] >>96511009
Does anyone know if all the death letter images are somewhere in the source files, neatly sorted?
Anonymous No.96511009 [Report]
>>96511003
Yes, no.
Anonymous No.96511011 [Report]
>>96510974
This allows them to make more options, often the same 'optimal' options, making each individual choice less meaningful and builds themselves more similar.

NTA, but I would do the same in his place.
Anonymous No.96511023 [Report] >>96511043 >>96511049
>>96510994
I just want to be raised by the only woman on the planet who has been through what I've been through and doesn't want me dead. I want her to have a family again too, she's been through so much.
Anonymous No.96511038 [Report]
>>96509136
>Light Overlord starts off vastly stronger, but doesn't have limitless potential. If given many thousands upon thousands of years, a Dark Overlord will outpace them. Light Overlord also has somewhat less minion variety.
Dark Overlord can outpace the Light Overlord a lot quicker than multi-millenia time frame, if you just take Nest. One peon makes multiple Nests,, which in turn can make multiple peons, which in turn can make multiple Nests. And so on, which means you can in practice grow way way faster than the doubling rate per decade of a Light Overlord.
Anonymous No.96511043 [Report]
>>96511023
Then don't refund the languages
I did check
Anonymous No.96511044 [Report]
>>96511001
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/92251865/#92254724
Anonymous No.96511049 [Report] >>96511062
>>96511023
>the only woman on the planet who has been through what I've been through
Charlotte?
Anonymous No.96511062 [Report] >>96511079
>>96511049
She wants you DEAD.
Anonymous No.96511079 [Report]
>>96511062
>She wants me [...]
Another win for Northerner chads.
Anonymous No.96511081 [Report] >>96511092 >>96511098
>no warmachina builds reviewed
>not even ONE anon aspiring to the purity of the blessed machine
For shame
Make more robot builds
Anonymous No.96511090 [Report] >>96511113 >>96511250 >>96511271 >>96511277 >>96511313 >>96511433
>>96510786
Your waifu is trash!
Anonymous No.96511092 [Report]
>>96511081
My warmachina build is solo and personal, sorry.
Anonymous No.96511098 [Report] >>96511117
>>96511081
There was one upthread, it just sucked
Anonymous No.96511102 [Report] >>96511294
>>96510481
It'll do shit against everyone else in the horde, which means you can invest way more into killing them, than otherwise. Two dudes manning a machine gun nest can fire as fast as an entire company of archers. meaning you can save the vast majority of the resources you'd otherwise spend on Archers on elite assets to take on Archdemons Vassals and whatnot. Even better, take Charity, and make use of how New and Old uses a relatively small amount of Vril compared to its value, meanwhile Charity gives you an almost comparable amount. You now end up gaining Vril by investing in horde-clearing, allowing you to invest almost all of your Vril into specialist assets and industry, and entirely ignoring any of the low-tier fodder options.
Anonymous No.96511113 [Report]
>>96511090
>Genderswap section
Honestly pretty based
I forgive you for being a retard and eating trash, you're a good man
Anonymous No.96511117 [Report]
>>96511098
>this shit again
Seethe
Anonymous No.96511187 [Report] >>96511205 >>96511209
Goku Sasuke Master Chief Kakarot (ascendido, forma inicial) is a warmachina build.
Anonymous No.96511191 [Report] >>96511196
>>96510928
A great part of your story is you going up, no one really likes the idea of Keter raising them, they just do for points, or they say they do like it, but its just a lie for points. And half of them want to fuck her too.
Anonymous No.96511196 [Report] >>96511212 >>96511227
>>96511191
One + Keter is the best parent combo.
Anonymous No.96511205 [Report]
>>96511187
Fuck off, cringelord.
Anonymous No.96511209 [Report]
>>96511187
You're one of us, cringelord.
Anonymous No.96511212 [Report] >>96511224
>>96511196
They have nothing in common, unless you headcanon something yourself. I'll admit that Keter at least is a great mentor, you're probably gonna escape your letter if you follow her advice, doubly so if she's also your companion.
Anonymous No.96511224 [Report] >>96511235
>>96511212
NTA but they're both Outsiders. There must be some common ground in their pasts.
Anonymous No.96511227 [Report] >>96511266 >>96511346
>>96511196
One + Rhucuphre would beg to differ.
Anonymous No.96511235 [Report] >>96511255
>>96511224
That's like saying just because two people are bakers they have a lot in common, and Outsiders did not even chose being Outsiders. They were also born in vastly different eras, with different goals. You don't have common ground with the others just because you're and Outsider too.
Anonymous No.96511250 [Report]
>>96511090
>His trannification fetish selection is larger than his best girl selection.
extremely homosexual
Anonymous No.96511255 [Report] >>96511263 >>96511268
>>96511235
Well, we're all from the same planet, and apparently from the same time period too. It could be used to build a rapport.
Anonymous No.96511263 [Report] >>96511275 >>96511278
>>96511255
Wait, what? Is that actually confirmed that outsiders came from the same planet?
Anonymous No.96511264 [Report] >>96511290 >>96511292 >>96511324
Some parent choices are criticized unfairly. People are always calling Pantorai bad but if you take him and aren't using Adoption, you are getting serious combat Mentoring as part of your upbringing.
Ratha is another example, she's not good on the point economy but you're getting drilled on How To Win In OR every night instead of a bedtime story.
Anonymous No.96511266 [Report]
>>96511227
Tasteful
Anonymous No.96511268 [Report]
>>96511255
They were also all chosen from /cyoag/.
Anonymous No.96511270 [Report]
Your Parents are only guaranteed to be your biological parents, they can leave freely.
If you pick Adoption, does it mean your Adopted Parents can leave freely also? So the only thing that's guaranteed is that they raised you at some point of time, possibly not even at the same time but sequentially?
Anonymous No.96511271 [Report] >>96511358 >>96511386
>>96511090
You monster, what did Sonya ever do to you?
Anonymous No.96511275 [Report] >>96511297
>>96511263
...Yes? All Outsiders are from Earth, and from modern time too. We're just being released with a 100 year gap.
It's been known for a while.
Anonymous No.96511277 [Report] >>96511358
>>96511090
>Jsilbert
I'm listening anon
Anonymous No.96511278 [Report]
>>96511263
Bob, Katya, Charlotte, New New York as a capital of Exarchate... It is never spelled out directly, but implications are clear.
Anonymous No.96511288 [Report] >>96511293
>>96510496
I despise you.
Anonymous No.96511290 [Report] >>96511311
>>96511264
>you are getting serious combat Mentoring as part of your upbringing
That assumes Paxxia is interested in teaching you, or if she'll let you stay weak so you're not a threat. Remember, Pantorai is dead when you're born, your sister is raising you.

Anyway the issue is that a lot of parents teach you vague things that are outside of the System, so assigning objective value to them is troublesome. Mr. Overpriced himself, Taexx, teaches you magic using his body as an example. What does that mean? What can you learn from the failed experiments performed on him? We don't know, so we can't judge whether this is worth him costing so fucking much.
Anonymous No.96511292 [Report] >>96511302
>>96511264
>Ratha is another example, she's not good on the point economy but you're getting drilled on How To Win In OR every night instead of a bedtime story.
If I have to go through a second childhood, then I want it not to suck ass
Anonymous No.96511293 [Report]
>>96511288
<3
Anonymous No.96511294 [Report]
>>96511102
If you spend all your time slaughtering hordes then the demons will just send higher tier units to decimate your gunners, leaving the hordes to overtake your armies. You're acting like the demons will just mindlessly send hordes after you, but that's not what is happening. They're intelligent beings.
Anonymous No.96511297 [Report] >>96511305
>>96511275
That's nice, but still, you wouldn't have much common ground with an Indian politician or a Sentinelese tribal just because they're from your world, would you? Earth is a pretty big and diverse place. Even people in here get at odds with each other.
Anonymous No.96511302 [Report]
>>96511292
Fucking same, my parents loving me is a prerequisite before I choose them, literally everything else is secondary.
Anonymous No.96511305 [Report] >>96511314 >>96511317 >>96511319
>>96511297
Third wolders can't be Outsiders.
Anonymous No.96511310 [Report] >>96513948 >>96514005
One is a Kansas farm boy for sure
Charlie is a britshitter
Katya is a slav
Erginter is Mexican
Anonymous No.96511311 [Report] >>96511320
>>96511290
He makes you a drakonid, is a powerful warlord and doubles as a unique mentor with some insights into draconic secrets. The genes are useful too. He is priced completely fairly.
Anonymous No.96511313 [Report] >>96511358
>>96511090
Just IMAGINE if Aat was a girl and that half-undead that rejected her was a guy. Everyone would be saying he's turbo gay or has no dick.
Anonymous No.96511314 [Report]
>>96511305
Erginter?
Anonymous No.96511317 [Report]
>>96511305
Erginter is right there bro
Anonymous No.96511319 [Report] >>96511331
>>96511305
But i'm on the Tide, though?
Anonymous No.96511320 [Report] >>96511342
>>96511311
Counterpoint: Xaxas has all of those same things except she also has twice as much value in gifts for you to inherit.
Anonymous No.96511324 [Report]
>>96511264
He’s expensive and the gifts are shit.
Anonymous No.96511331 [Report]
>>96511319
Your build is invalid and JNPL won't puck you up.
Anonymous No.96511342 [Report] >>96511347 >>96511354
>>96511320
She is a certified bitch while her knowledge starts and ends with "how to break faces". You can train clawing people today in a lot of places, but there is only one specialist on the applications of greasified eldtritch horrors to biomodifications, after Paxxia slaughtered all the rest.
Anonymous No.96511346 [Report] >>96511412
>>96511227
>One + Rhucuphre
The moment One realises how much of a threat Rhucuphre is, he's going to attempt to kill her. He fought to the death with his student for much less. As for Rhucuphre, she's explicitly described as an extremely vengeful who hates the gods and what they stand for, it stands to reason that her hatred extends to one of their greatest champion.
You are going to survive their clash due to fate, however you'll be lucky to even one of them survive until adulthood. Anyone who picked this foolish combination will suffer a harder childhood than Charlie.
Anonymous No.96511347 [Report]
>>96511342
*today -> to death
Anonymous No.96511354 [Report] >>96511441
>>96511342
Her entry specifically notes that she'll train you to your limits with a perfect understanding of your abilities and potential. She's basically explicitly giving you what you think makes Paxxia such a good 'parent'.
>Applications of greasified eldritch horrors to biomodifications
Anon, he is specifically a FAILURE. All his knowledge results in what he is: a fucking cripple he needs dragon corpse juice injected daily or he keels over and dies. He has no practical knowledge on that stuff to give you because every experiment done on him was a failure.
Anonymous No.96511358 [Report] >>96511372 >>96511373
>>96511271
I'm just not into 12 year olds I'm sorry

>>96511277
I want an angry woman to hit me with a giant cross sometimes

>>96511313
FACTS
Anonymous No.96511368 [Report] >>96511382 >>96511407
>can’t get daemonhost with JNPL
Fuck
Anonymous No.96511372 [Report]
>>96511358
Anon, you don't need to fuck her as soon as you're 18. Plus she's beastfolk, they mature faster, [JNPL] told me so.
Anonymous No.96511373 [Report] >>96511393
>>96511358
Firstly, she gets older. The average age gap in OR is like 50 years with the elves
Secondly, that makes you a rube, a pervert and a fool. Women have more value then sex (Well this one does anyway)
Anonymous No.96511375 [Report] >>96511383 >>96511430 >>96511837
It kinda sucks that the Keter/Thaumiel trick is so maligned when being adopted by her would actually make perfect sense for my build, but I do need to burn two-three languages to afford stuff, like I did with my bio-parents.
Anonymous No.96511382 [Report] >>96511415 >>96511421 >>96511463
>>96511368
You're already Jesus, stop being greedy.
Anonymous No.96511383 [Report]
>>96511375
Why do you care about the opinions of retards?
Anonymous No.96511386 [Report] >>96511396 >>96511419
>>96511271
She didn't tell me what the FUCK her Autoantecedence does
Anonymous No.96511393 [Report] >>96511406
>>96511373
>Women have more value then sex
Madness.
Anonymous No.96511396 [Report]
>>96511386
It makes you shoot EVEN MORE bulelts, duh!
Anonymous No.96511406 [Report]
>>96511393
He means anime women
Anonymous No.96511407 [Report] >>96511415 >>96511463
>>96511368
Icon of Icons is better anyway.
Anonymous No.96511412 [Report]
>>96511346
I imagine, this would not happen so fast. Rhucuphre is a very secretive person and such a knowledge would leak out slowly, carefully measured. They are both fated to care for the outsider for some time, this gives some leeway. Maybe she'll try to influence the new Outsider by herself, or maybe she will reveal just enough to debate with One without devolving the situation. Still, the tension will slowly grow, especially when the 11th gets grown up enough for the real lessons. This is where conflicts can truly start.

Both of them a protected by fate though, so escalating the conflict too much is entirely pointless, even if it happens. Instead they can start tugging the Outsider each in their corner and this is where really interesting things start.

So, yes, not an idyllic childhood but very 'exciting' and full of revelations. Like taking Ratha on steroids, which also comes with risk to your physical/mental health.
Anonymous No.96511415 [Report] >>96511463
>>96511382
I want to be jesus 2: antichrist

>>96511407
I want to be a majin though
Anonymous No.96511419 [Report]
>>96511386
The floating copies don't disappear. She just keeps creating more as she keeps moving.
Anonymous No.96511421 [Report] >>96511434 >>96511463
>>96511382
But to be Jesus you need to be Aat's son. No one else makes a woman magically pregnant rom another dimension.
Anonymous No.96511430 [Report] >>96511437 >>96511820 >>96511834
>>96511375
The main issue anons have with the Ketertrick is its a shameless pointgrab. If you have a legitimate narrative justification for why you have Keter as a parent then all the power to you.
Anonymous No.96511433 [Report] >>96511444 >>96511453 >>96511544
>>96511090
>dobrava top tier
exploit abuser meta slave
>femmak trash tier
no soul
Anonymous No.96511434 [Report] >>96511438 >>96511463
>>96511421
Aat doesn't have Death of the Author.
Anonymous No.96511437 [Report]
>>96511430
Nah, it's Thaumiel that's justified.
Anonymous No.96511438 [Report] >>96511463 >>96511493
>>96511434
I don't recall Jesus having that in the Bible
Anonymous No.96511441 [Report] >>96511476
>>96511354
Wrong anon, I never praised Paxxia.

He is specifically the greatest authority on medicinal magic. Drakonic lore is not his field, but observing the consequences, learning about experiments and his own part in them both as a subject and a fellow researcher gives a place to start digging deeper, while showing what NOT to do. It is quite valuable to not become a cripple yourself.
Anonymous No.96511444 [Report]
>>96511433
>exploit abuser meta slave
As the Gods intended.
Anonymous No.96511453 [Report] >>96511490
>>96511433
Fuck exploiters, Dobrava is good because she strives to be virtuous despite beying a literal psycopath, peak of goodness. She would also calculate how to be a perfect wife if needed.
Anonymous No.96511463 [Report] >>96511475 >>96513257
>>96511382
>>96511407
>>96511415
>>96511421
>>96511434
>>96511438
I have found a loophole.
JNPL, hybrid dark elf/majin. I would be both the progeny of JNPL, and subject to the eternal curse. With the power of nightmare, I would be able to draw out the gifts of Aat/Xian from the eternal curse. Thus making me a demon lord Jesus, born of immaculate conception from a father that doesn’t exist to a mother that is a god.

Will post build in a few hours.
Anonymous No.96511475 [Report] >>96511552
>>96511463
But can you buy Icon of Icons like that though?
Anonymous No.96511476 [Report] >>96511484 >>96511514
>>96511441
Anon, Pantorai's research was on how to turn mortals into Drakonids. He was trying to make Drakonid Changelings. If Taexx is your parent you aren't going to be doing experiments on yourself unless you're a full retard because you already are a Drakonid.

Anyway you are perfectly demonstrating my point from my original post here. All this shit on your part is SPECULATIVE and outside of the System. How valuable is it? Clearly, I think it's not worth any AP, because his experiments were failures, and medical spells can be learned anywhere. You, on the other hand, seem to think it's an amazing value worth at least 5 AP (the gift gap between him and Xaxas,) equivalent to Icon of Icons or All-Glimpse, to be able to look at some crippled fucker who never could figure out how to make Changelings. See the issue? When it's not contextualized in the system, the value is impossible to objectively determine. Thus, people not valuing their parents' knowledge very much.
Anonymous No.96511484 [Report] >>96511495
>>96511476
It makes much more sense to assume that parents are giving you value in some way than the system is fucking you over.
Anonymous No.96511490 [Report] >>96511503 >>96511526
>>96511453
What would you do when she stops trying? She's a literal psycopath. You can't fix her. I would prefer a fucking Charlotte in my bed.
Anonymous No.96511493 [Report]
>>96511438
>Death of Author
>Occulus of Human Goodness
>Icon of Icons
>God Hand/Stifling of Arms/Bleeding Heart Gesture (either of those is fine)
>Overstep
If you're Jesus build doesn't have these, its trash.
Anonymous No.96511495 [Report] >>96511515
>>96511484
It doesn't make sense to point count because that leads to shit like declaring one-point gifts are worthless or that low-cost companions can't be good at/for anything. Your parent teaches you what it says he teaches you, but is that going to make him equivalent to another parent, are we going to speculate that actually his teaching is super way good and better than the other parent, just because he has dogshit genes next to her? No.
Anonymous No.96511498 [Report] >>96511509 >>96511510 >>96511516 >>96511521
Would Nilmatrix fuck Eleventh for the mission?
Anonymous No.96511503 [Report]
>>96511490
>when she stops trying
That's like saying what would you do when your wife stops loving you or stops being a good person. You don't marry someone thinking that would happen, and i don't se why would she.
Anonymous No.96511509 [Report] >>96511512 >>96511518
>>96511498
Probably, you're weird for being so obsessed with fucking Charlie's horse
Anonymous No.96511510 [Report]
>>96511498
Yes, but she would spit and take birth control
Anonymous No.96511512 [Report] >>96511739
>>96511509
>Charlie horse
Genius.
Anonymous No.96511514 [Report] >>96511588
>>96511476
Of course I see it. This is one of the reasons I like the CYOA so much and while it spawns such a discussion - there is a lot of place for interpretation. I just find it to be a feature, not a bug.

As for the Changelings claim, Taexx is 296. He lived there long before the Realm and already was a drakonid. Whatever experiments were done on him, they were not about turning him into what he already was.

The part about him being unrivaled medical spellcaster is directly stated in the CYOA, there is nothing speculative about that. Hom many points do you think a mentor with this knowledge would cost in an early renessaince setting, where superpowers raise from biology?
Anonymous No.96511515 [Report] >>96511534
>>96511495
No, it makes plenty of sense to assume that the medical wizard dragon teaches you medical wizardry, or that the warrior queen dragon teaches you to be a warrior prince dragon.
Anonymous No.96511516 [Report]
>>96511498
What do you think? The best "world shattering betrayal" would be NTR.
Anonymous No.96511518 [Report]
>>96511509
Anon is a white woman, please understand.
Anonymous No.96511521 [Report]
>>96511498
Absolutely, she would also place spikes in her holes to maim your dick on your final night too.
Anonymous No.96511526 [Report] >>96511537 >>96511540 >>96511542 >>96511551
>>96511490
I said before that Dobrava and Du'um are the only perfectly moral targets of True Love. You are literally giving them something they otherwise would never experience.
Anonymous No.96511534 [Report] >>96511541
>>96511515
It doesn't make sense to assume that his teachings are automatically good enough to make up for all the extra gifts Xaxas has over him.
Anonymous No.96511537 [Report]
>>96511526
>moral
Get that shit out of here.
Anonymous No.96511540 [Report] >>96511554 >>96511592
>>96511526
You give people death letters. The "perfectly moral" companions are only those who have death slot at all. Even Zhivete and Pokoy are questionable.
Anonymous No.96511541 [Report]
>>96511534
We're just going to have to disagree on that then.
Anonymous No.96511542 [Report]
>>96511526
"Never" is a harsh word. You can probably use some of the 700 types of magic that word has to give them those feelings with their consent. True Love is still pretty moral in that situation tho.
Anonymous No.96511544 [Report]
>>96511433
Anon 3-4 of my best girl tier are autistic-coded. Do you think this is metaslavery, or do you think I have a type?
Anonymous No.96511551 [Report] >>96511560 >>96511562 >>96511567 >>96511571
>>96511526
>POV anon True Loves Dobrava
Are you sure it is such a good idea?
Anonymous No.96511552 [Report]
>>96511475
I like how Icon of Icons has morphed into this general's equivalent of the "can he beat goku tho?" meme. Its very funny.
Anonymous No.96511554 [Report] >>96511605
>>96511540
What's so bad about Ouk? I'd apply it to myself if i could.
Anonymous No.96511560 [Report]
>>96511551
Yes
Anonymous No.96511562 [Report]
>>96511551
It sounds like a great idea
She will surely calculate a way to make us happy, together forever
Anonymous No.96511567 [Report]
>>96511551
>Pacifist Yandere Dobrava
My body is ready.
Anonymous No.96511571 [Report]
>>96511551
Daww, she's doing math to make me happy. Truly a top tier wife.
Anonymous No.96511588 [Report] >>96511647
>>96511514
>they were not about turning him into what he already was
We see from Upunth exactly what Pantorai's research was about, anon. It's not ambiguous. He roped Taexx in, who thought he'd just be a scientist/helper, then turned around and turned him into a subject. In what role? Maybe he was burning the candle from both ends, trying to figure out how converting Drakonids to mortals would work in hopes of figuring out the opposite. Maybe he was just taken apart to figure out how being a Drakonid works. Either way, we know Upunth was the fruit of all this, and that every experiment done on Taexx was a failure.
>The part about him being unrivaled medical spellcaster...
Just like Xaxas's ability as a warrior. My point was throwing that back into your face: you downplayed her teaching by saying you can just learn it elsewhere (this is true,) so I downplayed Taexx's training by pointing out you can learn that elsewhere too (and this is also true.)
>Where superpowers raise from biology?
Literally nothing in his description gives the impression he can bestow inborn gifts.
Anonymous No.96511592 [Report] >>96511599 >>96511607 >>96511854
>>96511540
Death Letters is a non-choice, because even if you don't give them (which is impossible since the cyoa itself forces you to) someone else will. True Love on the other hand is completely optional and doesn't have any purpose than satisfying the player's lust.
Anonymous No.96511599 [Report] >>96511683 >>96511692
>>96511592
If a girl won't love you, she will love someone else. It's a non-choice.
Anonymous No.96511605 [Report] >>96511613
>>96511554
Think about this: Wherever they are, it's still /somewhere/ with /things/ that can kill you.
Anonymous No.96511607 [Report]
>>96511592
Do you not see any value in true love beyond senseless sex?
Anonymous No.96511610 [Report] >>96511622 >>96511623 >>96511717
I wonder if anyone's actually been convinced not to use true love because people keep claiming it's mind control.
Anonymous No.96511613 [Report]
>>96511605
But that would be true even if there was no Outsider at all.
Anonymous No.96511622 [Report] >>96511668
>>96511610
I've been convinced to use it because mind control is hot
Anonymous No.96511623 [Report] >>96511659
>>96511610
No, but some people cope because they think it is and their waifu is gonna love them forever regardless of what they do.
Anonymous No.96511647 [Report]
>>96511588
We see one facet of his research. He also created Drakonic language and imbued it with power, collected the knowledge of Dragon Sage, used some mage-cult variant to imbue himself with worldly divinity and who knows what else. He is not described as a scholar for nothing, I find it more likely that he tested methods to elevate drakonids into something closer to True Dragons on Xaxas

>you downplayed her teaching by saying you can just learn it elsewhere

And I still stand by my words. There are a lot of good fighters among mentors, There is only one biologist, specifically pointed out as 'unrivaled'. Meaning, no one comparable to him exists.

>Literally nothing in his description gives the impression he can bestow inborn gifts.

If we go with your version of events, he had participated in events that directly gave All-Glimpse and Drakonic Transformation to a pair of people. Without it we still know that Inborn Gifts are ties to a physical body (even if they are partially spiritual) and he is the greatest specialist on bodies. Sounds like an essential knowledge for further experimentation.
Anonymous No.96511659 [Report]
>>96511623
We will apply mind control afterwards, just to be sure. And because it is hot.
Anonymous No.96511668 [Report]
>>96511622
I think the term is Erotic but you do you
Anonymous No.96511683 [Report]
>>96511599
but that's how incels think
Anonymous No.96511692 [Report] >>96511705
>>96511599
Not if she's incapable of feeling emotions.
Anonymous No.96511705 [Report]
>>96511692
Psychopaths aren't incapable of feeling emotions, they just don't feel empathy and guilt.
Anonymous No.96511717 [Report] >>96511736 >>96511751
>>96511610
It's even worse than mind control.
It's a bad use of points.
Anonymous No.96511736 [Report]
>>96511717
The lack of a mind control mentor is a mistake.
Anonymous No.96511739 [Report]
>>96511512
TANKISTA!!!
Anonymous No.96511751 [Report]
>>96511717
The real reason I've never bought it is because every character where I actually care about the details of who they end up with is a JNPLer who got it for free
Anonymous No.96511770 [Report] >>96511784 >>96511790 >>96511795 >>96511797 >>96511799 >>96511990
Do you think JNPL will let me choose my letter of the damned if I ask nicely? It says the letter for your “natural spawning” cannot be predicted, but this is no natural spawn.
Anonymous No.96511784 [Report] >>96511828
>>96511770
Roll for your letter and I'll tell you what it does.
Anonymous No.96511790 [Report] >>96511828
>>96511770
No you have to roll the dice, get a Yer variant, and turn yourself inside out if you ever cast your letter spell. Like YMRD intended.
Anonymous No.96511795 [Report] >>96511828
>>96511770
It's anons like this that made the shitty autoantecedence powers.
Anonymous No.96511797 [Report] >>96511816 >>96511828
>>96511770
I'm of the opinion that even non-JNPL parents will let you choose your build's letter of the damned. Birth via outsider system is not "natural spawning" at all.
Anonymous No.96511799 [Report] >>96511828
>>96511770
The acts of the Gods upon the world are a natural part of it.
Anonymous No.96511816 [Report] >>96511826
>>96511797
"Natural Spawning" basiclly means "non-daemonhost spawning". Plus Fate is natural to that world.
Anonymous No.96511820 [Report]
>>96511430
The narrative justification is to redeem her that's what Tank said.
Anonymous No.96511826 [Report] >>96511843
>>96511816
"Natural Spawning" means you wouldn't get all of your inborn gifts if you aren't very lucky and you naturally wouldn't be able to buy inborn gifts your parents don't have. Outsider system birth is literally messianic birth, you're the 11th person to be given the right compared to the millions of normies who had to be born with rng.
Anonymous No.96511828 [Report] >>96511835 >>96511862 >>96513257
Rolled 24 (1d45)

>>96511784
>>96511790
>>96511795
>>96511797
>>96511799
I’m gonna roll but if I don’t like it I will ignore it because I have free will.
Anonymous No.96511834 [Report] >>96511841 >>96511868
>>96511430
There is basically no justifiction, no one ever did that before the exploit. "Redeeming her" is a retarded explanation, you're much better doing that with her as a companion who did not raise you.
Anonymous No.96511835 [Report]
>>96511828
>Khier majin
kino
Anonymous No.96511837 [Report]
>>96511375
Just go with it. Dis start. Tam mom. Aat father. Being groomed into the next Demon Lord of Dis is a good thing.
Anonymous No.96511841 [Report]
>>96511834
I did One/Keter in my first build though
Didn’t even give myself any languages
Anonymous No.96511843 [Report] >>96511882
>>96511826
The Outsider system is gonna make your parents fuck, that's natural spawning. If you could chose your letter, it'd be said so to remove any ambiguity. Stop trying to powergame like a fag and accept your random letter.
Anonymous No.96511854 [Report] >>96511863 >>96511867 >>96511878
>>96511592
False you are able to make a build where you don't give people death letters. Just take JNPL as a parent and get adopted by One, or be an Uruk. Then take no mentors or companions. Earn everything on your own Charlie.
Anonymous No.96511862 [Report] >>96511920 >>96511936
>>96511828
You're Seo, but for Empyreality instead of Undeath. Unfortunately, 0^0's lock on Empyreality applies to your powers, so all you can do while she sits on the pillar is create mindless empyreans out of dream-stuff.
Anonymous No.96511863 [Report] >>96511876 >>96511888
>>96511854
There are plenty of companions and mentors that have no death slots, even.
Anonymous No.96511866 [Report]
Why is he like this?
Anonymous No.96511867 [Report] >>96511876 >>96511888
>>96511854
>Then take no mentors or companions. Earn everything on your own Charlie.
It's possible to only take mentors and companions without a death slot.
Anonymous No.96511868 [Report]
>>96511834
By having her adopt you, you meet earlier and you can redeem her earlier.
Anonymous No.96511876 [Report] >>96511888
>>96511863
>>96511867
My mistake you can take those then. I was just in a hurry so I just went for the fastest option of spawning in.
Anonymous No.96511878 [Report]
>>96511854
You can take both companions and mentors, there are enough slotless now to fill all the vacancies.
Anonymous No.96511882 [Report] >>96511901
>>96511843
Do you have a quote from Tankista that confirms this? If not its up to players to interpret what natural spawning means and frankly I can't see anything natural about being born with the outsider system. Outsider system birth is the opposite of natural, its contrived and artificial because you get to choose and control everything about it unlike natural birth where you cant control it.
Anonymous No.96511888 [Report] >>96511896
>>96511867
>>96511863
>>96511876
The most moral possible build is the necrochad with Herleva and Spako as their mentors and Inga, Darina, and Su'uq(Zenia if she doesn't count) as companions
Anonymous No.96511891 [Report] >>96511900 >>96511905 >>96511946
The only moral choice of parents is JNPL and Pantorai. Every other is making two people fuck each other through love, rape or whatever. It's much worse than True Love.
Anonymous No.96511896 [Report]
>>96511888
You can also just By Design someone.
Anonymous No.96511900 [Report]
>>96511891
Just go the sarmat route and pick asshole parents you'd kill anyway during your adventure.
Anonymous No.96511901 [Report] >>96511915 >>96511990
>>96511882
Tankista's answer was that choosing your own letter was blessing of SRTR territory, it's fair to do it in singleplayer but not in multiplayer.
Anonymous No.96511905 [Report] >>96511912
>>96511891
Nuh uh, my dad Aat didn't fuck anyone.
Anonymous No.96511912 [Report] >>96511918
>>96511905
Then why does your mother hate you?
Anonymous No.96511915 [Report] >>96511925
>>96511901
Where is this posted? Is it in the qna google drive or Tankista's reddit posts?
Anonymous No.96511918 [Report]
>>96511912
Sorry, it says in her description that i was unexpected but she loves me. All completely moral (not that i care).
Anonymous No.96511920 [Report]
>>96511862
>0^0's lock on Empyreality applies to your powers
Nuh uh
Anonymous No.96511925 [Report] >>96511990
>>96511915
Reddit
Anonymous No.96511936 [Report]
>>96511862
As anon said, nuh uh. He can be the inventor of Majin Empyreality, just like Seo is the inventor of Majin Undead creation.
Anonymous No.96511946 [Report]
>>96511891
If you pick Marsat and Senamotis you aren't making them fuck against their will. They are already married, so they will be fucking.
Anonymous No.96511990 [Report] >>96512100
>>96511770
I looked it up and >>96511901 is correct. Letters of the Damned is meant to be rng.

>>96511925
I guess you're right. Sorry for being a readlet.
Anonymous No.96512001 [Report] >>96512016 >>96512019 >>96512065
Rolled 21 (1d45)

>get Az
>nullify your own powers
>build bricked
Thanks for playing
Anonymous No.96512016 [Report]
>>96512001
It doesn't have to be that particular manifestation of AZ, it could easily be one that makes target forget things or an enhancement spell that absorbs buffs around.
Anonymous No.96512019 [Report]
>>96512001
Certainty
Anonymous No.96512062 [Report] >>96512100 >>96512366
Rolled 27 (1d45)

Rolling for a Majin build. YMRD guide me.
Anonymous No.96512065 [Report]
>>96512001
If you call YMRD autistic, she will do this to you
Anonymous No.96512072 [Report]
I totally rolled off-site for my majin letter, trust me
Anonymous No.96512100 [Report]
>>96512062
>I humbled myself with >>96511990
>YMRD gave me the letter of humility in Cherv'
T-thanks YMRD.
Anonymous No.96512101 [Report] >>96512121
>>96512082
>>96512097
>Rolled 13 (1d45)
You can't erase your sins so easily
Anonymous No.96512102 [Report] >>96512121
>>96512082
>>96512097
Bro should've learned from Feodwra
Anonymous No.96512114 [Report] >>96512121 >>96512123
>>96512107
Kako, Iotated Yest and Yest. Pretty good rolls.
Anonymous No.96512118 [Report]
>>96512082
>13 for death
>>96512097
>40 for biblical tribulation
>>96512107
>6 for devil (666)
Give it up anon your rolls are cursed
Anonymous No.96512121 [Report] >>96512133 >>96512149
Rolled 30 (1d45)

>>96512101
>>96512102
>>96512114
What are you talking about? This is my first roll. 0^0 guide me
Anonymous No.96512123 [Report]
>>96512114
>Iotated Yest
Woops, yus not yest
Anonymous No.96512133 [Report] >>96512139
>>96512121
>Shta
Why is [YMRD] bringing out the good rolls for him?
Anonymous No.96512139 [Report] >>96512149
Rolled 4 (1d45)

>>96512133
YMRD helps those who help themselves
This is my last (first) try
Anonymous No.96512146 [Report] >>96512156 >>96512203 >>96512206 >>96512210
>>96507733
The author said that it's impossible to learn anything but the basics of each archetype without talent in those specific things. This means that not picking Blue Mage and/or Artificer for to upgrade yourself down the line is dooming yourself to eventual stagnation. Well, you can alternatively pick Rariel and beg her to upgrade you, but good luck convincing that bitch to do it without a slave clause.
Anonymous No.96512149 [Report] >>96512178
>>96512121
>30 for 30 pieces of silver
>>96512139
>4 for death
You somehow got 5 unlucky numbers in a row. YMRD is trying to tell you something.
Anonymous No.96512156 [Report] >>96512172
>>96512146
https://www.reddit.com/r/nsfwcyoa/comments/1n99d6k/isekai_the_end_v09_ocisekailong/nd33taf/
>An average person can train one Archetype to the point of becoming competent at its basic skillset, e.g an average White Mage can heal and shield well while still being able to defend themselves. You need talent to be able to develop perks - look at the companions and bounty targets, they're some of the strongest humans alive and they cap out at 2 Archetypes with capstones.
>So are abilities and capstones just not based on any linear progression of learning or experience in a certain application of an Archetype, but instead just arbitrarily designated to people removed from their development in that field, or any deliberate development/mastery of these abilities? Are they just innate superpowers that put those who by chance develop them above anyone else in the same field, like unique 'Skills' in a LitRPG? If so that's 100% fine, just it doesn't seem very intuitive to how it's presented in the CYOA to me.
>Yeah
Almost forgot to show his words.
Anonymous No.96512172 [Report]
>>96512156
Blue Mage just got so much better
Anonymous No.96512178 [Report] >>96512226
Rolled 40 (1d45)

>>96512149
>YMRD is trying to tell you something
that I should double down?
Anonymous No.96512203 [Report] >>96512227
>>96512146
Man I already took a look at the CYOA and this just shows that Jack of All Trades is the only real option to take. It'd suck not having a capstone but being able to unlock so many other categories and have 10x faster learning gives you so much more versatility than someone who just goes for a couple busted abilities in their sections. A 10% weakness is small when you consider how much you can stack with all the categories of magic you've opened yourself up to. Don't really get why any other choices are worth a consideration.
Anonymous No.96512206 [Report]
>>96512146
>lesser authors: meticulously balance to ensure nothing is too op and nerf broken shit
>chad reddit author: completely disregard balance, buff the broken shit to be even more op, nerf everything else
Anonymous No.96512210 [Report] >>96512218
>>96512146
You are already starting maxxxed out, other people will strive for a lifetime, and most won't reach your level. But, again, yes. Not taking Blue Mage is gimping youself.
Pic reltated is also extremely strong. Not sure how many people took it.
Anonymous No.96512215 [Report] >>96512223 >>96512250
What happens if you use adoption on aat?
Do you just become a feral retard with no language?
Anonymous No.96512218 [Report] >>96512276
>>96512210
>Pic reltated is also extremely strong. Not sure how many people took it.
I >>96509324 maxed it and also took Delayed Escalation. I have so many threads I can't use that I'm left with 8 at the end because I had to pick Benevolence, which prevents converting threads to shards, to unlock Heavenhold.
Anonymous No.96512223 [Report] >>96512234
>>96512215
You can still buy languages, but yes, your childhood will be on hard mode.
Anonymous No.96512226 [Report]
>>96512178
Now that I think about it, 65 years is more than enough. YMRD sucks.
Anonymous No.96512227 [Report]
>>96512203
>Jack of All Trades
All you need is Blue Mage maxxing and Qliphoth Rhizome, Puppetter stuff besides the required one is nice too.
Or just take any other good combo really.
Anonymous No.96512234 [Report] >>96512238 >>96512241 >>96512247
>>96512223
What if you use true love on Gewgrin's book what happens?
Anonymous No.96512235 [Report] >>96512239 >>96512243
Do we have a list of builds' letters of the damned and their effects?
Anonymous No.96512238 [Report] >>96512266
>>96512234
you become booksexual
Anonymous No.96512239 [Report]
>>96512235
no
Anonymous No.96512241 [Report]
>>96512234
Nothing unless you take whichever encounter lets you make inanimate objects sentient
Anonymous No.96512243 [Report]
>>96512235
The letter of the law is that you are not allowed to determine the effects of your letter of the damned.
Anonymous No.96512247 [Report] >>96512295
>>96512234
>No encounters and no perks
Read anon
Anonymous No.96512250 [Report] >>96512252
>>96512215
If Aat is your only language-granting parent, you can't pick a starting location. This would actually just make your build illegal but for fun I sill sat that it implies that your mother casts you into the underground, demon-baby. You are then raised by the nightmare.
Anonymous No.96512252 [Report]
>>96512250
meaningfvl
Anonymous No.96512257 [Report] >>96512271 >>96512281 >>96512304 >>96512711
charlie is just an empyrean with Word of God and Deus Ex Machina

that's it
Anonymous No.96512266 [Report]
>>96512238
Hey you don't know the pleasure a good book can give you.
Anonymous No.96512271 [Report] >>96512292
>>96512257
She's also an Outsider with a ton of good gifts 200 years of training and an entire empire to buff her icon of icons. But no friends.
Anonymous No.96512275 [Report] >>96512280 >>96512301 >>96512314
Isn't Kashtanka about to die from old age? Would she even survive to mentor you?
Anonymous No.96512276 [Report] >>96512308
>>96512218
It's kind of a pity that I can't have Caraptine Plate and Kaleidoscope. At least I got the super mind control ring Eternal Promise. If someone is willing to risk it, they can try putting it on Rariel lol.
Anonymous No.96512280 [Report] >>96512293 >>96512300 >>96512310
>>96512275
Beastfolk have Longevity which means they live like 150-200 years on average.
Anonymous No.96512281 [Report] >>96512285
>>96512257
Deus ex deez
Anonymous No.96512285 [Report]
>>96512281
what's a deus ex?
Anonymous No.96512288 [Report] >>96512303
>>96507312 (OP)
Another sketched-out build: Living Savior

Ideal: Saint.

Blessings:
>Bank of Souls
I really don't know why this is a 2-cost blessing! The MECHANICAL benefit honestly seems quite marginal, since the rate of accumulation of the dead (especially including the initial billions) would be vastly greater than your rate of restoration. But it may pair well with...
>Savior
Which now accomplishes the core mechanic of the build; Saint is the best resurrector by far, Bank of Souls ensures that there are always people ready for resurrection, and Savior I -think- should make this action return a decent amount of vril in addition to the benefits of restoring someone to life. One could quibble over whether resurrecting someone is technically "saving them from life-threatening danger," but it seems to fit the concept thematically at the very least. Of course, it is very unclear whether the return on steadily restoring the dead to life would actually represent a meaningful improvement on natural vril gain.

Since that's three, I could stop there, but let's squeeze in another gimmick of sorts, a few more blessings for a few burdens.

>Celestial
Having a 'safe harbor' against the tides of demons is always pretty important; with Celestial, that harbor can be high orbit, unreachable to the vast majority of enemy forces. It would suck if they simply had to float up there in the void, but I suppose it should be possible for me to fly up there myself and summon structures without having to worry about rocket payload capacity.
>Induction
Again, normally this is probably not something actually worth a blessing point (much as it really wasn't for Dark Overlord). But, so long as the nearest race available I have to ordinary humans is a flying race (it's gonna be angels), I can angelify people to let them fly up to the safe zone in the (metaphorical) heavens.

(cont)
Anonymous No.96512292 [Report] >>96512311
>>96512271
>no friends
Is this an actual fact?
Anonymous No.96512293 [Report] >>96512360
>>96512280
Depends on your patron
>JNPL
75 years tops
>SRTR or YMRD
150, perhaps more
Anonymous No.96512295 [Report] >>96512326
>>96512247
You don't need to give your companions/mentors any encounters.
Anonymous No.96512300 [Report] >>96512360
>>96512280
Tuzik lived for only 70 years. I'm not sure what Longevity is good for except delaying menopause.
Anonymous No.96512301 [Report]
>>96512275
Nah Tuzik was just built diff. Finished the job, fucked his wife a few times for good measure, then dipped out to the next life.
Anonymous No.96512303 [Report] >>96512312
>>96512288
Burdens
>I Would Win
One of the few that seem possible to live with, steadfast belief in the inevitability of victory is hardly the worst thing for common soldiers. Particularly viable here because the Saint is the most persuasive, and I can explicitly disabuse e.g. important generals of their delusion with a bit of work.
>Mercy
Maaaaybe viable, I have to think or hope that the number of outright betrayers of humanity would be small? At least, proper choice of follower types should be shore up the problems associated with this.

Races:
Like I said, can't take humans here or the induction strategy wouldn't work. Let's keep it simple
>Humanlike Angels
>Nonhuman Angels
>Esoteric Angels

Followers
General emphasis here is on fast motion and 'death from above.'

Regulars:
>Hunter
>Archer
>Charger
>Neophyte
Sound pretty useless in themselves, but I am going to rely on Ritualists, so neophyte support should be helpful.
>Craftsman
Actual industry up in space, rather than summoning everything, might be, well, tricky...I suppose it's not inconceivable to try to capture an asteroid. But hell, if we're stuck at a low level of technology, I'm really counting on the ability of magic to fill in the blanks.

Higher:
>Ranger
Same cost as knights, should work as bulk of conventional forces, perfectly suited to ranged strike forces from above.
>Jailor
>Paladin
These two are critical to address the Mercy problem, the latter particularly to try to actually sort out betrayers from victims. Lie detection, what a godsend.
>Ritualist
Some general combat use, but this has a far more pragmatic utility, in that I need them to provide the arcane energy to 'feed' my angels.
>Artisan
Likewise assuming that industry will be possible.
>Captain
Gotta have commanders for the strike forces

Exemplar:
>Colossus
Don't expect to have many of these at all, although Saint helps here that I could resurrect them if needed. Main reason I'm thinking I'd need one is that a Colossus seems
(cont)
Anonymous No.96512304 [Report] >>96512317 >>96512849
>>96512257
Now explain what Word of God does.
Anonymous No.96512308 [Report] >>96512391
>>96512276
I don't think it would work on her. She's immune even to being lewded by the NSFW author, truly Outversal.
Anonymous No.96512310 [Report] >>96512360
>>96512280
No, her ancestor had pokoy and died in his 70s. Therefore Kashtanka is also at risk of dying to old age.
Anonymous No.96512311 [Report]
>>96512292
Her outsider profile says no one will miss her when she's gone.
Anonymous No.96512312 [Report]
>>96512303
the natural choice to be able to physically haul asteroids into earth orbit. Probably in the form of an esoteric or nonhuman angel.
>Artillery
Hello, Rods from God. Take advantage of the placement high above the earth.
>Resurrector
In addition to the other benefits, I ASSUME that resurrectors can also 'draw from' my Bank of Souls. I guess, even though my actual followers don't need to breathe, we're going to have to make some pressurized sections of the space station to resurrect people into, don't want them asphyxiating to death again immediately after their return.
>Slayer
I figure anything that the demons could send up against me would probably be of the "giant big monster" variety, so probably want to have a few people specialized in anti-giant-big-monster operations.
>General
Again obvious, I'm not a strategic visionary, so I need to have some people who are. Absolutely crucial though to make these guys realize that victory is not always guaranteed.
>Valkyrie
Again well-suited to hit-and-run aerial tactics.
>Oracle
Any build that doesn't take oracles is foolish.
>Thaumaturge
Top-tier generalist magician, completing the trifecta and hopefully helping to cover any contingencies I haven't thought of.

Archdemon vassals, guess I'll go through this one this time...
Aspheor: Pharas. Just as oracles are practically obligatory, so too is eliminating enemy foresight.
Devourer: The Great Wyrm. Not critical here, but seems like a bigger headache than the rest.
Craeses: Seven. Teleportation portals are one of the few ways our strongholds in the heavens could be assailed, so it's better if they don't have easy access to them.
Wrath: Grend. Big scary thing, might potentially be able to reach space, let's take it out.
Coroth: I guess Calea? No strong opinions on this one.
Teles: Wyvern. Even if they can't normally reach space, cutting down on their ability to fly will make my own incusions less resistible.
Anonymous No.96512314 [Report]
>>96512275
You wouldn't let the wise and hot foxgirl with amazing genes and perhaps Thoroughbreeding die without having kids, would you?
Anonymous No.96512317 [Report]
>>96512304
basically its this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doh2LzWkxFU
Anonymous No.96512326 [Report]
>>96512295
True Love is a perk anon, I was answering that you cannot use True Love on the book.
Anonymous No.96512356 [Report] >>96512359 >>96512373 >>96512404 >>96512448
Would anons rather mind control an evil person into a loving mother or kill them through contrived fates?
Anonymous No.96512359 [Report]
>>96512356
Is she hot?
Anonymous No.96512360 [Report] >>96512389
>>96512293
>>96512300
>>96512310
I know this is a running joke now, but he had JNPL as a companion, what actually probably happened is that he was getting tired of life and asked her if there was any more Meaning in him living, she told him no, and so he asked her to let him die already.
Anonymous No.96512366 [Report] >>96512383 >>96512408 >>96512476 >>96512522 >>96512553
Rolled 45, 101, 109, 89, 157 = 501 (5d200)

>>96512062
Rolling for my Cherv' majin letter's effect with the spell ryoa. Guide me once more YMRD.
Anonymous No.96512368 [Report]
>>96510726
She is a cute kuudere.
Anonymous No.96512373 [Report]
>>96512356
Greater Yus is not mind control. It's just old fashioned brainwashing.
Anonymous No.96512383 [Report] >>96512393 >>96512408
Rolled 181, 102, 118, 88, 179 = 668 (5d200)

>>96512366
idk if the ryoa works for majin spells, since they're meant to be based on a specific letter
maybe sub out the second roll for Cherv?
Anonymous No.96512389 [Report] >>96512452
>>96512360
>companion,
Mentor actually, but yes. He fulfilled what he wanted from his second life, improved himself, gained a family and friends and left a lasting legacy. He also went on several adventures, some even with big stakes so it's not as if he did nothing. Once he reached the peak of his life he was ready to move on and let his soul start over.
He was the greatest [JNPL] champion.
Anonymous No.96512391 [Report]
>>96512308
Is she?
>Refuses to say why her goddess didn't take her with her, saying that it "doesn't matter" and that she "never liked that old hag anyway".
Seems like she just doesn't like the goddess.
Anonymous No.96512393 [Report] >>96512424
>>96512383
>Time of Lies Stretches Roughly
>2-10 days
wtf
any meaningfags explain?
Anonymous No.96512404 [Report]
>>96512356
Rhucuphre can be evil AND a loving mother, anon. She contains multitudes.
Anonymous No.96512408 [Report]
>>96512366
Hand of Lies Transforms Roughly, 2-10 hours
or Hand of Cherv' Transforms Roughly, 2-10 hours if we go by >>96512383
Would a kind anon please grant my majin letter Meaning?
Anonymous No.96512424 [Report]
>>96512393
It increases the amount of time people will believe a lie you told
By a lot
Good for scams and military nonsense
Anonymous No.96512448 [Report] >>96512455 >>96512484
>>96512356
Kill, their evil genes would spread otherwise. Wifing someone and giving them love is reserved for good girls.
Anonymous No.96512452 [Report]
>>96512389
>and left a lasting legacy
Unless you take his descendant and impregnate her, then he actually didn't because Charlotte blew it all up.
Anonymous No.96512455 [Report] >>96512460
>>96512448
>evil genes
Evil is not genetic; see Omega and Apantoxia
Anonymous No.96512460 [Report] >>96512467 >>96512485
>>96512455
Paxxia is evil?
Anonymous No.96512467 [Report] >>96512485
>>96512460
She like raping Outsider shota's and secretly thinks Xaxas is right but dumb
Anonymous No.96512472 [Report] >>96512486 >>96512487 >>96512499
The implication with Eirina and Numerology would lead one to believe that you of all Outsiders have the potential to Ascend, since 11 is the Master Number and represents Da'at, divine knowledge and light like how 10 is Keter. So try hard little Outsider, and make sure you listen to Eirina.
Anonymous No.96512476 [Report] >>96512495
Assuming the rolls in >>96512366 and substituting Majin letter for the second roll.
>Hand of Cherv'(humility(fig.) or worm/moth(lit.)) Transforms Roughly
I would assume you can transform things into worms or insects by touching them. Let's say they know their place, and won't attack you or each other unless coerced to. Since it already has uses for minions and a one-shot-kill attack, I doubt it would be very versatile (on its own) otherwise.
Anonymous No.96512484 [Report]
>>96512448
What if they were good before, and/or come from a good family, but got lost/corrupted?
What if all they need is a strong guiding hand?
It's based in principle, but there are still things to consider, and you should never stop caring about others
Anonymous No.96512485 [Report] >>96512500
>>96512460
>>96512467
Paxxia is pretty much designed to be the 11th Outsider's mid-boss, even if she's your sister. She's basically destined to start shit and need you to put her down. How you handle Apantoxia (even if you don't choose her and thus she's not her daughter, you could still team up) is what decides the future of the entire Drakonid race from there, whether you genocide them, let them live independently, or bring them into your kingdom/empire etc.
Anonymous No.96512486 [Report] >>96512501
>>96512472
I'm half-expecting you to say "and Rhucuphre was right by the way!"
Anonymous No.96512487 [Report] >>96512501
>>96512472
Rhucuphre: "Listen to Eirina, Outsider"
Anonymous No.96512495 [Report]
>>96512476
>I would assume you can transform things into worms or insects by touching them. Let's say they know their place, and won't attack you or each other unless coerced to. Since it already has uses for minions and a one-shot-kill attack, I doubt it would be very versatile (on its own) otherwise.
Alright, thanks anon.
Guess I'll start working on the build.
Anonymous No.96512499 [Report]
>>96512472
Instructions unclear, I true loved the elf grandma
Anonymous No.96512500 [Report] >>96512507
>>96512485
>How you handle Apantoxia (even if you don't choose her and thus she's not her daughter, you could still team up)
Would she even exist if I don't pick her?
Anonymous No.96512501 [Report] >>96512521 >>96512562
>>96512486
>>96512487
Don't be paranoid, Eirina is a nice girl and has nothing to do with all that. Her age is just a coincidence, if you live long enough, you'll be 666 someday too.
Anonymous No.96512507 [Report]
>>96512500
Readlet-kun...
Anonymous No.96512514 [Report] >>96512537 >>96512545 >>96512548 >>96514833
>According to Tankista, having Royal Claim (muddish) and putting Shta on Jdan ensures that he selects you as his heir, meaning you can use the old throne.
Can you move the old throne or is it bolted to the ground?
Anonymous No.96512521 [Report] >>96512547
>>96512501
>living 600+ years
No thanks. I'll save the world and go on to the next.
Anonymous No.96512522 [Report]
Rolled 133, 101, 173, 98, 167 = 672 (5d200)

>>96512366
rollan
Anonymous No.96512536 [Report] >>96512549
I can't believe the dwarfs named a girl Jarknight. No wonder she betrayed them.
Anonymous No.96512537 [Report]
>>96512514
I assume you can, but the city built around the sleeping giant would be destroyed in the process.
Anonymous No.96512545 [Report] >>96512559
>>96512514
It's not bolted to the ground but it's the control chair for Vtorusha's god-mech, which the city is built on the back of. Even if you could move it and that doesn't require you waking Vtorusha up, it would kill everyone if you did.
Anonymous No.96512547 [Report]
>>96512521
>Nah, I'd die
Absolutely retarded.
Anonymous No.96512548 [Report] >>96512554
>>96512514
Mech has been broken since the WoH&E. Only the throne functions.

Bring Vtorusha back and it probably works tho. Or at least is fixable.
Anonymous No.96512549 [Report]
>>96512536
Well it doesn't sound like anyone treated her very well growing up, which is why she betrayed them all to the literal demon.
Anonymous No.96512553 [Report] >>96512572
>>96512366
>133, 101, 173, 98, 167

Children of Lies Exchanges Lethally (2-10 Days)

Sounds cool. Fuck spending 48 hours on it tho.
Anonymous No.96512554 [Report]
>>96512548
>Bring Vtorusha back and it probably works tho
This is how you tang.
Anonymous No.96512556 [Report] >>96512561 >>96512564 >>96512566 >>96512569
Aatginter could solo Charlie easily.
I highly doubt either of them would let go by now, you can probably revive them.
Anonymous No.96512559 [Report] >>96512567
>>96512545
>it would kill everyone if you did.
Good. All M*ddish should die.
Anonymous No.96512561 [Report] >>96512581
>>96512556
The CYOA gives you two ways to revive them, either hand their corpse to Dei so she can make a copy, or let Baf eat it so she can take on the mantle without desecrating their memory.
Anonymous No.96512562 [Report]
>>96512501
Sure, she's just a an eccentric. There is nothing suspicious about her at all. Not even 0^0 pays much attention to her messing with God Script and inventing numerology. After all she has no ambitions. She's just a pawn in the great scheme of things. It couldn't be that some shady shit is happening just under god's nose.
Anonymous No.96512563 [Report] >>96512574 >>96512578 >>96512589
The only outsiders you can't get to join your party are Charlie, Sarmat, and Tuzik.
Anonymous No.96512564 [Report]
>>96512556
And then they solo you right afterwards.
Anonymous No.96512566 [Report]
>>96512556
Aat was cool but who the fuck wants Erginter around?
Anonymous No.96512567 [Report]
>>96512559
But you would be one of them, are you killing yourself too?
Anonymous No.96512569 [Report]
>>96512556
Why would I revive them when I can help a big tiddy goth girl steal their power and knowledge instead
Anonymous No.96512572 [Report]
>>96512553
Do Majin have to chant their innate spell? Ota just seems to need someone to step in her shadow, and I think all the other Majin can just use their spell too.
Anonymous No.96512574 [Report] >>96512577
>>96512563
>Charlie
She's your untimeskipped Companion.
Anonymous No.96512577 [Report]
>>96512574
she isn't invited
Anonymous No.96512578 [Report]
>>96512563
And Yphont. All of them have a descendant you can take though, Kashtanka for Tuzik, Omega for Charlotte, and Jarnigit for Yphont (in spirit.)
Anonymous No.96512581 [Report] >>96512587 >>96512599 >>96512671
>>96512561
As much as Blazhko and Gunter get brought up for being great 1 pointers, it's surprisingly rare to see people mention that you can get an Outsider level companion for 1 point with Baf.
Anonymous No.96512583 [Report] >>96512591
>he isn't using numerology on Outsider corpses
ngmi
Anonymous No.96512587 [Report] >>96512601
>>96512581
Jdan is 0 points and he comes with a free time machine
Anonymous No.96512589 [Report]
>>96512563
>Bring Sarmat back
>He solves all the plots in 20 years and goes back to being dead
>Nothing to fucking do now
There's a reason the gods brought in Erginter after Sarmat.
Anonymous No.96512591 [Report]
>>96512583
>numerology is the solution i swear!
Anonymous No.96512594 [Report] >>96512613
People who think it's a good idea to wake up Vtorusha haven't heard of a guy called Numidium.
Anonymous No.96512599 [Report] >>96512611 >>96512632
>>96512581
I'm guessing it's because not a lot of builds took her? Maybe thanks to her Late Thulean.
Anonymous No.96512601 [Report] >>96512608
>>96512587
>free time machine
Yeah... Let me know how that works out for you.
Anonymous No.96512606 [Report]
It's time for someone to assemble the Outsidervengers to stop Charlie, yes this means you have to figure out how to get the heroic version of Charlie on your team.
Anonymous No.96512608 [Report] >>96512614 >>96512619 >>96512620
>>96512601
purposely use the chair over and over until the nightmare consumes the world

YMRD resets

shrimple as
Anonymous No.96512611 [Report]
>>96512599
Really? I thought there was a Baf investor in every tide and was trying to avoid another Eirina situation.
Anonymous No.96512613 [Report] >>96512631
>>96512594
I am going to wake up Ytorusha before I turn 18 and let her meet One again.
Anonymous No.96512614 [Report]
>>96512608
>winning from your battle station
BASED
Anonymous No.96512619 [Report] >>96512623
>>96512608
Critical logic flaw in assuming that [The Nightmare destroys the world] happens before or at the same time as [The Nightmare kills you]
Anonymous No.96512620 [Report] >>96512652
>>96512608
Stop telling people to kill themselves.
Anonymous No.96512623 [Report]
>>96512619
And? Yat + Zemlya. Even in death, I serve.
Anonymous No.96512628 [Report] >>96512648
>fucking 15 ap in the hole
now I know why no one picks JNPL
Anonymous No.96512631 [Report]
>>96512613
I am going to get a half-undead descendant of Mithra pregnant with One for the same reason.
Anonymous No.96512632 [Report] >>96512638 >>96512651
>>96512599
It's because the Majin are NOT cute or lovable.
Anonymous No.96512638 [Report]
>>96512632
Your Majin harme bro?
Anonymous No.96512648 [Report] >>96512700
>>96512628
By my calculations of taking her vs taking optimal parents for gifts, she costs at least 30 points, most of them being AP.
Anonymous No.96512650 [Report] >>96512657 >>96512658 >>96512664
Why take Baf if you can dice fudge Dei and spawn as many Baf as you want? Same with Seo.
Anonymous No.96512651 [Report]
>>96512632
Always sad to see blind anons out in the wild
Anonymous No.96512652 [Report]
>>96512620
It's not suicide, anon. It's omnicide. That's much cooler.
Anonymous No.96512657 [Report]
>>96512650
Baf costs 1. Seo can be untimedskipped.
Anonymous No.96512658 [Report]
>>96512650
Would using true love on Dei mean any future remembrances of her would also be affected by it?
Anonymous No.96512660 [Report] >>96512707
Baf is another girl with an unfortunate name.
Anonymous No.96512664 [Report] >>96512674 >>96512687 >>96512714
>>96512650
Baf gets Demonhost once she eats Erginter's corpse, and it's the Xian version where she has all of the specializations at once.
Anonymous No.96512665 [Report] >>96512676 >>96512683 >>96512772 >>96512821 >>96512836
what are your majin names anon?
Anonymous No.96512671 [Report]
>>96512581
>Baf
Imagine being named fucking Baf, kek
Anonymous No.96512674 [Report]
>>96512664
Yeah, but her loyalty after that is not guaranteed. But I see your point. It's power now vs power later with a cheaper cost.
Anonymous No.96512676 [Report]
>>96512665
Dobro
Ouk
Zelo
Anonymous No.96512683 [Report]
>>96512665
Anon.
Anonymous No.96512687 [Report] >>96512702 >>96512714
>>96512664
Will she only go for Xian's stuff, or is she getting all of Erginter's stolen gifts too?
Anonymous No.96512700 [Report]
>>96512648
This graph and its consequences has been a disaster for Outer Reincarnation.
Anonymous No.96512702 [Report] >>96512706 >>96512718 >>96512720 >>96512723 >>96512728
>>96512687
Tank said on reddit she gets both. She stays Majin, so she won't get erginter's dragon form or longevity, but she's still quite possibly the strongest character in the CYOA if you complete her quest.
Anonymous No.96512706 [Report] >>96512719
>>96512702
Vtorusha is still stronger
Anonymous No.96512707 [Report]
>>96512660
It makes me want to bap her.
Anonymous No.96512711 [Report]
>>96512257
[JNPL]'s blood has got it going on, it's all I want and I've waited for so long. Charlie can't you see, you're just not the God for me. I know it might be wrong but, I'm in love with [JNPL]'s _____.
Anonymous No.96512712 [Report] >>96513030
Do you think Gewgrin book will teach me anything worthwhile if I already have Keter, Inga Yesod, and Omega?
Anonymous No.96512714 [Report]
>>96512664
I doubt she retroactively gets everything Xian had, what she will do is take his meaning for herself, that is a Daemonhost that can spawn other Daemonhosts and start demon lines. Even after that she will still be weak old Baf so she's a great Majin maker if you can complete her side quests, protect her and make sure she stays on your side and doesn't succumb to Majin autism.
>>96512687
No, those are explicitly uninheritable and cannot be turned into disciplines, only she herself could use them.
Anonymous No.96512718 [Report] >>96512740
>>96512702
>she gets both
What the fuck, I already thought she was ridiculous when she was just getting Xian. Big news if you're not bullshitting us.
Anonymous No.96512719 [Report]
>>96512706
She'll never wake up for whatever
Anonymous No.96512720 [Report] >>96512726 >>96512741
>>96512702
So she's a good target for By Design or fiert on
Anonymous No.96512723 [Report]
>>96512702
Did he say anything about the Multiocular O + Missing Shape thing or not?
Anonymous No.96512726 [Report] >>96512742 >>96512750
>>96512720
>or fiert
This is asking for fate to do it in a way that fucks you over.
Anonymous No.96512728 [Report]
>>96512702
Can you find it, I usually check and didn't see that. Seems too much.
Anonymous No.96512740 [Report] >>96512748 >>96512771 >>96513017
>>96512718
Anonymous No.96512741 [Report] >>96512765
>>96512720
Can't fiert her because she's a C, but you can just possess her anyway.
Anonymous No.96512742 [Report] >>96512767
>>96512726
>Fate
She wouldn't betray me.
Anonymous No.96512748 [Report]
>>96512740
My exploit sense is tingling...
Anonymous No.96512750 [Report]
>>96512726
Why are you always bullshitting with fate?
Anonymous No.96512765 [Report] >>96512785 >>96512791
>>96512741
So the optimal play is to By Design her, learn how to make demonic undead from Seo, help her eat Aatginter, become a ghost, then possess her.
Anonymous No.96512767 [Report]
>>96512742
Anon, it's a well known fact:
If you stay up past your bedtime, fate will sneak into your room and nibble on the toes of you and your waifus
This in an immutable truth
Anonymous No.96512771 [Report] >>96512891
>>96512740
I'm not sure that passes on the stolen gifts. We have other places like Tenyota that distinguish stolen gifts as still being someone else's, not yours, and it says there that it would pass Erginter's gifts.
Anonymous No.96512772 [Report]
>>96512665
I'm fond of IBL for demon lords loyal to the empire
Anonymous No.96512782 [Report]
>>96507312 (OP)
This CYOA mentions allies and other forces of Earth, but who are they?
Humanity sounds like it's completely incapable of any kind organization besides small survivor communities.
Are there organized groups of supernatural beings in the world? Are there any complex civilizations?
Anonymous No.96512785 [Report]
>>96512765
Can't you just Az Zemlya?
Anonymous No.96512789 [Report] >>96512802 >>96512811
w-which letters do the godscript letters correspond to in english?

I can't into slavscript...
Anonymous No.96512791 [Report] >>96512820
>>96512765
Why would I possess her when I can instead thoroughbreed her
Anonymous No.96512802 [Report]
>>96512789
First are A B V
Anonymous No.96512809 [Report] >>96512878 >>96512888 >>96512894
Would making Grim Outlook x3 allowing me to imbue letters of the damned instead of curses be too strong? Going for a warmachina style Daemon ex Machina where the majin would be Machine spirits that can autonomously pilot or work with another like Oko. The gifts would be additional effects added to the warmachina when copiloted with another. Could also just be living items like Savmak sword.
Anonymous No.96512811 [Report]
>>96512789
The wikipedia list of cyrillic letters has most of them, and their pages tell you what sounds they make
Anonymous No.96512820 [Report] >>96512845
>>96512791
Thorough breeding only ensures your own gifts will be passed on, and it's already confirmed Erginter either doesn't have it or it doesn't apply to her stolen gifts.
Anonymous No.96512821 [Report]
>>96512665
Dobryshta.
Anonymous No.96512836 [Report]
>>96512665
1^1
Anonymous No.96512845 [Report] >>96512855
>>96512820
Anon I just want to have sex with her
Anonymous No.96512849 [Report] >>96512859
>>96512304
It's a non-magical form of esoteric knowledge, closer to the area of Attentiveness than Caster Intuition, that allows its practitioner to control the consequences of their actions. Users act in a backwards direction from divination by choosing one event they know to be a possible random outcome and then estimating the actions that are necessary for them to set it in stone.

It is likely that it was based on a mystic notion of writing your own destiny, as it was derived from the teachings of Mithra who was known to have written his own life story to such heights of skill that he became the author of others. Charlie's religion remains notably compatible with its ancestor as she was able to misattribute them to herself without a problem.

Here is the missing link that connects Esu's "letter" tsifra to dreams. Both of them are the least developed form of the godhood that the Elder Gods were cultivating, numbers reflecting the edicts of an embryonic god, and dreams reflecting the demands of one. That's also the reason that the Old Throne creates such vast amounts of dreams, it fights against the desires of not just three gods, but the billions of them throughout the planet. It contradicts every soul on the planet, melting their Meaning away, resisting spiritual forces with as much force as the most fundamental of physical ones.
Anonymous No.96512855 [Report]
>>96512845
Valid
Anonymous No.96512859 [Report] >>96512864
>>96512849
>That's also the reason that the Old Throne creates such vast amounts of dreams, it fights against the desires of not just three gods, but the billions of them throughout the planet. It contradicts every soul on the planet, melting their Meaning away, resisting spiritual forces with as much force as the most fundamental of physical ones.
god damn I didn't realize the old throne was this fucking based
Anonymous No.96512864 [Report] >>96512916 >>96512949
>>96512859
Vtorusha was a Solipsist, regardless of whatever she believes.
Anonymous No.96512878 [Report] >>96512894
>>96512809
>imbue letters of the damned
That's just imbuing spells, aka enchanting. Once again, think higher.
Anonymous No.96512883 [Report]
>>96510876
Ok, done, and with brief ratings for the lettermen
Anonymous No.96512888 [Report] >>96512966
>>96512809
Sir? your insular bonus?
Anonymous No.96512891 [Report] >>96513004
>>96512771
Tenyota species that because she learned she can't externalize the gifts stolen by Erginter with HER ability, not some definitive thing that applies to everyone. The reading seems clear to me, she tried to copy Erginter to get her revenge but since she doesn't have Erginter's cheat letter she can't do it.
Anonymous No.96512894 [Report] >>96512966
>>96512809
Don't listen to >>96512878 , it's a cool idea. Creating living spells through items is a good choice. You probably already have Daemonhost though, which could have a lot of overlap.
Anonymous No.96512916 [Report] >>96512949 >>96513047
>>96512864
It's because she identified herself with the dream of all humanity. That is, she asserted that all of humanity was united with her was her in fact. That's why her tanging you if you wake her up is an actual possibility, if she got her way it's very possible it wouldn't manifest as "The Elder Gods step back and let people define their own fate" but "All of humanity (as a singular entity) defines its own existence." Basically like an Ota but for the humans.
Anonymous No.96512949 [Report]
>>96512864
>>96512916
>All as one - the Second One! The true Second Seat is all of us together. Even should Vtorusha fall here and now, the Second Seat shall live on in our dreams!
>The true Second Seat is all of us together.
Anonymous No.96512966 [Report]
>>96512888
I will take the Insular bonus for Auburn too.
>>96512894
Yeah, I will have Daemonhost through Aat/Phershepa for the mental gifts.

The overlap can be made beneficial with half my majin being able to be warmachia and the other half as riders once I start figuring out how to make greater warmachia.
Anonymous No.96513004 [Report] >>96513017
>>96512891
I don't know, I would consider it the result of Erginter mentorship rather than gifts belonging to her body, like what Xet can teach you, you replicate the effect of his letter but it's not an inborn gift. Otherwise you would inherit them from her assuming that Baf gets the bodies but not their knowledge then she shouldn't have them.
Anonymous No.96513017 [Report]
>>96513004
Baf gets knowledge too >>96512740
Anonymous No.96513030 [Report]
>>96512712
Ask yourself this, would any of those know common Empyrean tactics, strengths and weaknesses?
Keter is simply one herself, at most she could tell you ways to kill them but you would have to force them out of her since they aren't covered and she wasn't an Ecumene soldier, Inga only knows Empyreality from her theories, she shouldn't know their common tactics and weakpoints and same with Omega, she wasn't a soldier. If your intention is to fight coordinated armies of Empyreans then he's the best bet.
That and the book is the only way you will learn how to seduce those thee in the first place to even teach you things beyond the scope of the system.
Anonymous No.96513047 [Report]
>>96512916
Anonymous No.96513055 [Report]
How many end the world plots can you trigger at once?
Anonymous No.96513071 [Report] >>96513088
I don't want to ruin anons fun but the CYOA flat out says that waking up Vtorusha won't end the world in Savmak's outsider entry
Anonymous No.96513088 [Report]
>>96513071
All it says is that waking up Vtorusha doesn't end the world. False Ascending all of humanity as a Giant Naked Vtorusha isn't ending the world, it's just another, worse Charlotte. All the other races are 'fine' unless she starts killing them for some reason.
Anonymous No.96513257 [Report] >>96513300 >>96513399 >>96513429
>>96511463
>>96511828
I wish I had some more points to add flavor to this build, but this is what I got:

>patron
JNPL

>reincarnation
Male
Adoption
True Love: Nilmatrix
Untimeskip x2 (Keter/Gewrgin)
Extra companion x3
Outer Tide

>parents
JNPL
One

>race
Majn

>languages
Tutored (One, Palatiner)
Quietened (Drakonian)

Everman
Palatiner
Simplified Duergar
Spriggan

>location
New New York

>gifts
Longevity
Letter of the Damned (Khier)
Bitter Sickness
Wereplague (x2)
Ethereal Beauty
Thoroughbreeding
Cognitive Speed
Memory Retention
Intelligence
Attentiveness
Spiritual Feel
Martial Instinct
Caster Intuition
Noble Inclination
All-Glimpse
God Hand x2
Esurient Walk x2
Seraphic Wings

>mentors
The Keter
Gewrgin Aureole

>companions
Inga Yesod
Omega
Nilmatrix
Empty (x5)

>encounters
A bridge, a toll, a troll
A Band of Ogres
A Score of Orcs
A Hop, a Lean, a Hobgoblin
A Pack of Goblins

On Sick Leave (Omega)
A Daring Rescue (Inga Yesod)
A Calm and A Storm (Keter)
Shadow of God (Nilmatrix)

>death
Me - Buki
Keter - Zelo, Zhivete
Omega - Ot

>youth
Magical Training
Martial Training
Power Testing
Traveling

>quest
E Nomine
Anonymous No.96513300 [Report] >>96513326 >>96513450
>>96513257
if you were willing to swap one of your languages for Benewhisper, those point granting encounters would also grant some DP.

Also, remember, outsiders have done plenty without overspending on gifts.
Anonymous No.96513326 [Report]
>>96513300
Without gifts you're an Unnotable.
Anonymous No.96513399 [Report] >>96513407 >>96513450
>>96513257
You can't use perks on the book
Anonymous No.96513407 [Report]
>>96513399
Let him True Love old emperor Aureole.
Anonymous No.96513420 [Report]
I want to True Love my fellow Tiders.
Anonymous No.96513429 [Report] >>96515027
>>96508006
>>96513257
>couldn't think of a good 3 letter Majin name
I just hope One doesn't name me Bob

I'm a Majin Outsider, born from JNPL, with resurrected undead One as an adoptive parent, in New New York. That's enough to pretty much immediately trigger a civil war, but fate + One + Keter should help me delay.

Khier is my letter of the damned, and it's the letter tied to Empyreality. This is kind of cool as an inversion of the anti-Christ Christ thing the CYOA has going on. My gifts aren't too interesting, but God Hand, Seraphic Wings, and to an extent All-Glimpse play into the fallen angel aesthetic. God hand is also one of the few ways I can get a blessing. Wish I could get Icon of Icons but it's not possible. I took thoroughbreeding because Death of the Author is inheritable.

The idea of this build is to research the God-Script and Empyreality, or rather, anti-Empyreality. 0^0 patched the loophole she used, but is that the only one? Is that even the only loophole in general? Empyreality seems "better" than Undeath on the surface, but is it really? I don't think the Elder Gods would play favorites like that. What is the weakness of the form? How can it be combined with undeath, while being its polar opposite?
Hopefully, my untimeskip knowledge will give me a head start on this sort of thing. Add Omega/Inga Yesod/Keter as companions, and maybe I can figure something out.

Since my entire build is based on Empyreans/anti-Empyrean research, I have chosen to fight Nilmatrix. Both Gewrgin and Keter got backstabbed by her, why not follow in their footsteps? Maybe I can learn from their failure. If I can't beat Nilmatrix, I'm probably not beating 0^0. And with Inga Yesod, if I win, I'll be able to turn her to our side in undeath. Also interesting that Nilmatrix has an ability mirroring Demon Lords.

Side note: what happens if One lands the final blow on Nilmatrix?
Anonymous No.96513450 [Report] >>96513486
>>96513300
>if you were willing to swap one of your languages for Benewhisper, those point granting encounters would also grant some DP.
Can't swap Simplified Duergar, and Palatiner is already giving me +8DP. I tried swapping Spriggan for Benewhisper, but it's actually worse.
That leaves Everman, which I could swap for a net gain of +4DP. However, I would no longer be able to take the Gewrgin book, and I would have to tutor Inga Yesod a language that I know (-1DP)
So I could spend 3DP on a mentor. 5 including the below fix. But I don't know if any of them are really worth it.

>>96513399
Darn. I guess I'm reading it the old fashioned way, then. Maybe I can untimeskip Everman just so it goes faster.
Anonymous No.96513486 [Report] >>96513585
>>96513450
>However, I would no longer be able to take the Gewrgin book
Lol, thanks for making me realize that by RAW nothing is stopping you from tutoring the book in another language.
Anonymous No.96513504 [Report]
Looking at my build, it's funny how I could easy give myself 5 more DP if I wasn't so attached to my cute companions and mentors I need to tutor.
Anonymous No.96513585 [Report] >>96513617
>>96513486
The default choice is the Everman iteration. I don't think Gewrgin only spoke it when he's a Northerner. Other languages that might be strange for the book to be in (and for him to have), Benewhisper or Duergar for example, would imply that a speaker of the tongue got their hands on a copy.
Anonymous No.96513617 [Report]
>>96513585
Well it does mention he wrote it in Everman on purpose, probably with the hopes that whoever got it, they'd have a chance of deciphering it. If he wrote it in Old Northern or Elven-Northerner which he also definitely spoke, but it fell into some Muddish's hands, there's a good shot they'd never figure out the puzzle.
Anonymous No.96513634 [Report]
>>96507708
>guns, airplanes, missiles, napalm
All useless according to Entropist lore, which is what inspired Isekai Dark Overlord in the first place.
Anonymous No.96513945 [Report] >>96513960 >>96514014
THREAD
>>96275050
THREAD
Anonymous No.96513948 [Report]
>>96511310
I can see the arguments being made for One (behavior) and Katya (name). What's the reasoning behind Charlie and Erginter?
Anonymous No.96513960 [Report] >>96514014
>>96513945
Your Walk Blessed is: Discipline
Anonymous No.96514005 [Report]
>>96511310
Vtorusha may have also been slavic, and Sarmat was obviously from New York. Erginter doesn't seem Mexican; her parent choices mean she probably chose her own name.
Anonymous No.96514014 [Report]
>>96513945
>>96513960
I just realised that Tok's thread is over a month old - 33 DAYS!
We really should use the thread just to finally end it by reaching the limit to stop Tok bumping it daily.
Anonymous No.96514026 [Report] >>96514045 >>96514122 >>96514179 >>96514185 >>96514852 >>96514927
>chose her own name
That reminds me: builds aside, are you going to run with the name your new parents will give you, or are naming yourself independently ASAP.
Anonymous No.96514045 [Report]
>>96514026
I already gave my build a culture-appropriate name, which I'm treating as the parent-given name.
Anonymous No.96514122 [Report]
>>96514026
The former, unless One really picks Bob this time.
Anonymous No.96514179 [Report]
>>96514026
The former. I'm not an ungrateful twat.
Anonymous No.96514185 [Report]
>>96514026
Will be picking strange chuuni one to make Charlie hate me a little extra. Shame I can't be halfbreed while at it.
Anonymous No.96514747 [Report]
test
Anonymous No.96514833 [Report]
>>96512514
There's an easy workaround the Old Throne's immobility issue. Sight Beyond Sight + Overflowing Pupil, perfectly Autoantecedence one of them for maximum coverage. Bonus if you also have Kneeling Twilight so you don't get ass cramps from sitting on a stone chair for years.
Anonymous No.96514852 [Report]
>>96514026
My parents are [JNPL] and One. The former is dead and the other has a notoriously shitty naming sense. So I don't have a choice in the matter.
Anonymous No.96514927 [Report] >>96514950 >>96514987
>>96514026
What if Keter names my "Fucking Bitch"?
Anonymous No.96514950 [Report] >>96514971
>>96514927
...

Katya is not nearly as bad as you people make her out to be.
Anonymous No.96514971 [Report] >>96514977
>>96514950
Let's ask ??? about that.
Anonymous No.96514977 [Report]
>>96514971
Her name should be really bad
Anonymous No.96514979 [Report]
name yourself Da'at or Da'ath for maximum lore accuracy
Anonymous No.96514987 [Report]
>>96514927
>Hello, I am Keter's Bitch.
Anonymous No.96514997 [Report] >>96515004
what if I want keter to molest me
Anonymous No.96515004 [Report]
>>96514997
Play the long game and be her perfect kuudere.
Anonymous No.96515006 [Report] >>96515017
>??? stopped using her name just because it was something fucking stupid like Abcde or Le-a
Keter keeps getting worse and worse.
Anonymous No.96515017 [Report]
>>96515006
It could be something decent like Ein Sof.
She just uses her special powers to hide it really well.
Anonymous No.96515027 [Report]
>>96513429
Now that I think about it, touch of embedded rust x3 could be cool for this build
Anonymous No.96515160 [Report]
Imagine wanting to pass on your genes, in this world where there are no genes, and even if there were they would just be the genes of this random body you happen to inhabit, not the genes of the Earthly body which shaped your mind
Anonymous No.96515193 [Report]
I personally do not care one bit for the fancy jew names. I'll just name myself "Onze" which is just eleven in French, and because its similar to One.