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Anonymous No.96571483 [Report] >>96577924 >>96581651
/edhg/ - EDH/Commander General - it's a red red red red red red world edition
Previous Thread: >>96553376

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Make custom cards
https://magicseteditor.boards.net
https://mtg.design
https://mtgcardsmith.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: What is your favourite chaos-creating effect?
Anonymous No.96571492 [Report] >>96576166
real previous
>>96562856
Swordbro !!bG/a5VvDyz6 No.96571645 [Report] >>96574659
>TQ
I love Decent into Avernus. Came up tonight in one of my games, just barely didn't win that game just coasting off of the treasures. I love "this game is on Fast Forward"
I really need to tweak Tidus, after playing it a bunch, it has a lot of cards that sound cool but feel too slow in practice.
Anonymous No.96574309 [Report]
>What is your favourite chaos-creating effect?
coveted jewel
Anonymous No.96574392 [Report] >>96574674
https://moxfield.com/decks/agO2Q0AdjEy9q9PK-S5qTw

Im trying to create an izzet commander damage deck. I like melek for copying pump spells but he's pretty weak and needs mana/library manipulation to pop off. I think veyran might be more reliable, how many spells copying effects would I need? I'm thinking cards like assault strobe, twinferno, balduvian rage, and harmonic prodigy are the type of things that can get me there. Right now it's kind of a ping you/make tokens strategy just for me to learn the color combo better.

https://moxfield.com/decks/agO2Q0AdjEy9q9PK-S5qTw
Anonymous No.96574639 [Report] >>96574663
Anons, I've been upgrading my Saruman deck and I need 3 extra cards to finish my 99. Do you guys have any suggestions? I thought about Bolas Citadel but I think I am going to keep it bracket 2

The deck: https://moxfield.com/decks/6HMjofV1tUGgCxbjQM63vw
Anonymous No.96574659 [Report]
>>96571645
>TQ
I like Chaos Warp. It's funny removing something strong and then watching as something even stronger gets manifested into the field.
Anonymous No.96574663 [Report] >>96574684
>>96574639
5 ramp
37 lands
1 mdfc
43 total.
I usually make sure the total is closer to 47 especially because 1/4 of your deck is cmc 4 or higher.
Anonymous No.96574674 [Report]
>>96574392
Personally, I'd go with a more aggressive costed commander and move the copy effects to the 99
Anonymous No.96574684 [Report]
>>96574663
I missed some of the ramp, my bad
Anonymous No.96574787 [Report] >>96575067
Dear deckbuilding websites
is it really that hard to give me the option of setting default prints to oldest
I am getting so tired of changing it manually
Anonymous No.96574860 [Report] >>96574876 >>96575524 >>96577696 >>96577759 >>96578275
So since spiderman shat all over the colorpie identity
How long until every single color gets a haste enabler?
Anonymous No.96574876 [Report]
>>96574860
>tfw mass hysteria is actually a color shifted green card
Anonymous No.96574883 [Report] >>96574889 >>96574967
>haha a fishing pole
>I'm a fisherman lets see what it does
>oh shit it actually goes in my intruder alarm deck
wow
Anonymous No.96574889 [Report] >>96574895 >>96574967
>>96574883
NOOOOO
the pole taps not the creature
damn you
Anonymous No.96574895 [Report] >>96574967
>>96574889
damn read it wrong a second time
still doesn't work
have a good weekend everyone, I am taking this as my sign to log off
Anonymous No.96574967 [Report]
>>96574883
>>96574889
>>96574895
I also want to make a fishing pole deck just not sure how
Anonymous No.96575067 [Report]
>>96574787
I wish they'd just not select any SLD/special prints at all. Going through my decklist and all of a sudden there's a fucking $60 card and I'm freaking out over budget and it's some goddamned unique art foil print on a 10 cent card
Anonymous No.96575082 [Report] >>96575279 >>96575309
About to drop this badboy tomorrow.
Anonymous No.96575084 [Report]
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
Anonymous No.96575279 [Report] >>96575339
>>96575082
post link
bad eyes
Anonymous No.96575288 [Report]
>play against Valgavoth on mtgo 1v1
>gets lightining greaves, mogis, fate unraveler out around turn 6
>go to spectate another game
>literal exact same board state on the same turn
this has to be a huge coincidence right?
Anonymous No.96575309 [Report] >>96575339
>>96575082
This deck looks hella fun, will it be your first time playing it IRL?
Anonymous No.96575339 [Report] >>96575432
>>96575279
https://archidekt.com/decks/15867879/want_some_free_draws_bro

>>96575309
First time with the new improved cards.
Anonymous No.96575432 [Report] >>96575471
>>96575339
i ran a few playtests of the deck, what are you hoping is in your hand once you get kami out on turn 2?
Anonymous No.96575435 [Report] >>96575452
Much as I love this deck I think it'll be time to move on soon. What's my next deck?

>Derevi Sticker Voltron
>she's the "stickiest" commander, and in the colors for all the absolute best ticket counter cards
>permanently make her a 10/10 with keyword soup

>Melek big spells control
>power out Melek and cast all the big swingy 5+ cmc counterspells once per player turn

>Eriette, the Beguiler
>stealslop with voltron backup wincon

>Arna Kennerüd, Skycaptain
>living weapon spam

Or feel free to suggest something novel.
Anonymous No.96575452 [Report] >>96575465
>>96575435
Hopefully you keep it around for a while even if you aren't working on it
its a cool deck.
Anonymous No.96575465 [Report] >>96575502
>>96575452
I tend to disassemble/reassemble decks as time goes on, even if I like the deck a lot. I've exclusively played commander since idk 2010? So I've always made a point of owning just one of a card.

One of the reasons I keep the photos is so that I can reassemble the deck when I feel like playing it again though. There's a few low-powered decks I keep together that don't really compete for slots, but this isn't one of them.
Anonymous No.96575471 [Report]
>>96575432
Scrawling Crawler, Spinx Tutelage and Iron Maiden. From my games, people usually leave you alone for up to turn 5, since they never consider you a threat until that point.
Anonymous No.96575502 [Report]
>>96575465
I feel that
Anonymous No.96575522 [Report] >>96575691 >>96576131
MailDay, MailDay.
What did you recieve lately?
Anonymous No.96575524 [Report]
>>96574860
It's called lightning greaves you dingus
Anonymous No.96575691 [Report]
>>96575522
soon, hopefully
Anonymous No.96575871 [Report] >>96575891 >>96575913 >>96575995
What happened? This thread is usually very quick.
Don't tell me it was held up by like one guy/bot thats offline now
Anonymous No.96575891 [Report] >>96575947
>>96575871
In Amerishart it's peak work hours.
Anonymous No.96575913 [Report] >>96575947
>>96575871
4chan lost half of its user after the hack
Anonymous No.96575932 [Report] >>96576018 >>96576078 >>96578382
https://www.newyorkcomiccon.com/en-us/things-to-do/panels/panel-information.html?gtID=908894&panel-name=Nickelodeon-x-Magic-The-Gathering
Are you guys ready for the Rugrats set?
Anonymous No.96575947 [Report] >>96575978
>>96575891
>>96575913
Hasnt stopped the thread for at least the last month
Anonymous No.96575978 [Report]
>>96575947
Off peak hours this thread can crawl sometimes anon
Anonymous No.96575995 [Report] >>96576016
>>96575871
It's friday, people are out playing
Anonymous No.96576009 [Report] >>96576036 >>96576045
>>96571473
I have an Atraxa Infect deck because I wanted to play infect, and genuinely I don't think it's too powerful at all. You end up painting the biggest target on your back and fall off hard in the mid-game because you have to fill your deck up with shit like 3 mana 2/2 flyers which is the kind of thing that can't compete with typical midrange EDH value decks. Very often I've taken someone out early but converting that to a win is very hard. Also fully going in on a late game Ichor rats proliferate plan doesn't work either because spending resources to proliferate constantly doesn't do anything for your board state or tempo and leaves you vulnerable to getting killed which people want to do anyway. its hard out here for us aggro chads.

TL;DR Infect seems a lot scarier than it actually is, and if you went by winrates im sure the average infect deck wouldnt be out of place at your typical mid power table.
Anonymous No.96576016 [Report]
>>96575995
>tfw the guys shitting up the thread weren't no gamers after all
I guess I owe them an apology.
Anonymous No.96576018 [Report] >>96576162 >>96578382
>>96575932
Calling it now its Ninja Turtles.
>Sonic Crossworlds
>DLC is Spongebob, Avatar and Ninja Turtles
>Spongebob Secret Lair
>Avatar UB
Anonymous No.96576036 [Report]
>>96576009
Yep, I have a Skrelv monowhite infect with all the cheap double strike creatures, and a personal rule that I can only win by proliferating every remaining player from 9 to 10 poison counters at the same time. Same problem: it's great against lower power decks but man does it fall behind fast
Anonymous No.96576045 [Report] >>96579559 >>96579566
>>96576009
People are afraid of Atraxa because content creators tell them to be. In reality it's one of the fairest, durdliest commanders in existence. And if you have spot removal before end step she's a literal 4 mana do-nothing.
Anonymous No.96576062 [Report] >>96576135
So I posted this deck yesterday and I was pretty pleased with it but the more I look at it, the more I know it needs a change.
The original gimmick was that it was a spiritual successor to a duels of the planeswalker deck and it still does that portion quite well, rely on basic lands, green ramp and multicolored creatures to win.
At some point before brackets, I added non-basic land hate and that became the aspect I enjoyed the most.
I still think the idea of a budget 5c land base playing ruination is funny.
That being said, I can't help but feel like this deck has outgrown it's usefulness but I am having a hard time figuring out what to do about that. I'd love to keep playing a deck that plays a bunch of charms but I think the wincon package needs to change.
Even back in 2016 when I put the deck together, rite of repping a broodmate dragon was cute but not a good wincon and its only gotten worse from there.
Any suggestions?
Maybe I revert to an older more charm based build and lean into domain more?
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/16-07-24-mana-mastery/
Anonymous No.96576078 [Report]
>>96575932
So was the Avatar set not a one off but the start of a Nickelodeon run?
Anonymous No.96576131 [Report] >>96579795
>>96575522
Got foil of pic related
Anonymous No.96576135 [Report] >>96576165
>>96576062
Cute boomer deck but it is legitimately just a Pile. Depends what you would like to lean into. The deck is largely asynergistic.

Is it the charms you like? Is it the random multicolored slop you like? Is Child of Alara a must in the command zone?
Anonymous No.96576162 [Report] >>96576423
>>96576018
Rocket Power, Legend of Korra or Good Burger
Anonymous No.96576165 [Report] >>96576176
>>96576135
I like child in the command zone, if for no other reason than its a 6/6 with trample. I like using cards like boros charm to sneak wins
I also like Bound / Determined the the baby.
>its just a pile
yeah, it feels that way, maybe it always was but after removing ruination it is for certain.
Ima try leaning into the charms more and see if that helps thanks.
Anonymous No.96576166 [Report] >>96576172 >>96576213
>>96571492
I like ub
Anonymous No.96576172 [Report]
>>96576166
boo this man
Anonymous No.96576176 [Report] >>96576183
>>96576165
If you want to lean really heavily into charms, Ramos might be an even better commander.
Anonymous No.96576183 [Report]
>>96576176
that's not a terrible idea, thanks.
Anonymous No.96576213 [Report]
>>96576166
Anonymous No.96576259 [Report] >>96576269 >>96576271 >>96576277
>Curate my decks to be strong, but not broken
>No game changers, no one mana tutors, no cards over 10 bucks
>People with blinged out decks constantly mad telling me they are better at magic than me I just use busted decks, while they drop 50-80 dollar busted cards

God I hate commander players. Why are the majority of them salty little bastards? It's not some affront to god to lose at a commander game to someone who looks normal.
Anonymous No.96576269 [Report]
>>96576259
Some idiot sits down with a 5k deck and scoops when I play a Blood Moon and calls me a bad player.
Anonymous No.96576271 [Report]
>>96576259
>telling me they are better at magic
ah it was so believable up to this point, everyone knows magic players don't have to spine to say something like this out loud.
Anonymous No.96576277 [Report] >>96576285
>>96576259
Your sense of superiority is just as annoying as theirs.
Anonymous No.96576285 [Report]
>>96576277
especially because he's real and they are not
Anonymous No.96576300 [Report] >>96576312 >>96576325 >>96576348 >>96576357 >>96576442 >>96578759
>I hold priority

This is the most gay thing you can say in a table.
Anonymous No.96576312 [Report] >>96576418
>>96576300
how else would you describe it?
Sometimes I do not want something to resolve before taking another action.
Anonymous No.96576325 [Report]
>>96576300
I just say
>Wait wait wait wait wait
Anonymous No.96576348 [Report]
>>96576300
this is why I always tell the table when I intend to pass priority
the default is that I am holding it unless I say otherwise
Anonymous No.96576357 [Report]
>>96576300
I can count on one hand how many times I've heard this phrase in all my years of playing. People will just say something like "I'm gonna cast [spell] and then I'm gonna cast [other spell] too"
Anonymous No.96576418 [Report] >>96576455
>>96576312
I say ''WITH THAT ON THE STACK..."
Anonymous No.96576423 [Report] >>96576754 >>96576762 >>96577121
>>96576162
What would their stats be?
Anonymous No.96576442 [Report]
>>96576300
It's better to not mention you're holding priority, because you can shark stupid players who blurt "UH IN RESPONSE" before you've made your decisions.
Anonymous No.96576455 [Report]
>>96576418
>I say extremely gay thing
whoa whoa whoa there, you don't have to go and tell me about your red sock now
Anonymous No.96576754 [Report]
>>96576423
2GW

ETB create a food token for each creature on the battlefield

At the beggning of your upkeep, you may distribute up to 3 food tokens to any target players. Create a Treasure token for each food token given to other players this way.

2/2
Anonymous No.96576762 [Report]
>>96576423
>tap: ORANGE SODA-- Create a Food token
Anonymous No.96576926 [Report] >>96577033 >>96577321 >>96577573
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcYhYO02f98

Decks for this feel?
Anonymous No.96577033 [Report]
>>96576926
This is a banger
knight tribal probably
Anonymous No.96577105 [Report] >>96577130 >>96577263
>play Zur Eternal Schemer
>go a couple turns without any enchantments I can play
>”ugh I can do one thing but it basically just fucks us all”
>one guy goes “if you say you can do something you should just do it. It’s rude to be like I can win the game but I won’t”
>”but it doesn’t help me win it just fucks us all over”
>”play the game”
>ooooookay
>Out of Time
>activate Zur in response targeting Out of Time
>all creatures phase out permanently
>3 of us are now playing without out commanders
>that guy looks moody for the rest of the game and occasionally complains he can’t do what he wants because he doesn’t have his commander
Who was in the wrong in this situation?
Anonymous No.96577112 [Report]
What absolute backwards spastic made a new thread early and then didn’t even link it in previous thread?
Anonymous No.96577121 [Report] >>96577164
>>96576423
Ed would be S-tier, dunno if he should be gruul or boros. He'd generate food tokens and have some kind of chaos effect based on how he constantly confuses and tilts his customers.

Maybe
>Ed, Hapless Cashier
>RW
Whenever an opponent casts a creature spell, create a Food Token
>3R:Tap- Sacrifice any amount of food tokens. Gain control of target creature an opponent controls with converted mana cost equal to the amount of food tokens you sacrificed.
Anonymous No.96577130 [Report] >>96577138
>>96577105
one player gave you the go-ahead, did the other two say anything or just stare at lemurs
Anonymous No.96577138 [Report] >>96577226
>>96577130
Their reaction was basically “oh shit” and then later “I mean you did say to do it”
One of them complained a bit about his deck basically doing nothing (he was deliberately playing low power) but he seemed to take it mostly in good spirits
Anonymous No.96577164 [Report]
>>96577121
Ed would also have
>whenever you sacrifice a food token, each opponent exiles the top card of their library. Until end of turn, you may cast those cards. Spend mana of any color to cast them.
Anonymous No.96577226 [Report] >>96577340
>>96577138
the guy who pushed for it was the only one with an issue? hilarious, maybe he'll think twice before speaking
Anonymous No.96577263 [Report] >>96577340
>>96577105
As a general rule I am a big hater of lockouts that don't advance the position of the one who plays them, huge nigger move if people didn't sign up for that kind of game

But if you already got the go-ahead from your table that's 100% on them
Anonymous No.96577321 [Report]
>>96576926
inniaz
Anonymous No.96577340 [Report]
>>96577226
>maybe he'll think twice before speaking
I hate to put it that way, but...yeah?
I come from pods where it is very normal to speak your thought processes out.
>hmmm I could do this, but I think I'm just better off doing...
Etc.

I'd gone a couple turns without affecting the board at all, so I just felt like explaining that I can play cards but they don't help me- and people can just ignore what I say, or use it as a springboard to talk about how their deck is doing this game, or stories that relate to that situation. That sort of thing.
I had never heard someone say it's rude to say that you can do something but won't. And he pushed me to do it.

>>96577263
>As a general rule I am a big hater of lockouts that don't advance the position of the one who plays them,
I mean same, that's why I made a point of saying it's the only thing I COULD do but I wouldn't. When he told me to, I even said it doesn't help me win it just fucks us all over. I was as clear as I could be that he didn't actually want me to do it.

I don't think he really had any idea of how bad what I could do was. He asked to see the cards when I did it, so I guess he's never seen the interaction before
Anonymous No.96577533 [Report] >>96577544 >>96577645 >>96577669
How do you decide which basics to use in your deck?
Forgotten Realms/Baldur’s Gate lands would be thematic in my Erinis, Gloom Stalker deck, but then I’d have nowhere to put my og Zendikar full art Mountains
Anonymous No.96577544 [Report]
>>96577533
>"I need 10 islands"
>pick 10 islands from the bulk in my collection
No thoughts, no preferences. Just grab them and go
Anonymous No.96577573 [Report]
>>96576926
Anonymous No.96577645 [Report]
>>96577533
I'll usually use ones that are from the respective plane of my commander(s) for flavor reasons unless one fits equally well in aesthetic.
Anonymous No.96577669 [Report]
>>96577533
Just go with the feel of the commander usually. Usually whatever plane they're from or one that feels right if it's unsure. Typically one art for all of them.
Anonymous No.96577673 [Report] >>96577729 >>96577859
>$200 for a play booster box
>for a shit set mechanically
>for a soulless pos cashgrab set

I feel like this is kind of the tipping point
Anonymous No.96577696 [Report]
>>96574860
Crashing drawbridge? Why do tourists act like they care about the game
Anonymous No.96577703 [Report] >>96577859
Do I:
Patch up my Asmira deck
Work on mono white landfall deck
Start a new project (Maybe Kotis)
If you dont have anything nice to say please dont reply ^.^
Anonymous No.96577729 [Report] >>96577746
>>96577673
They saw how eagerly FF fans opened their wallets and (very wrongfully) assumed that's how it's gonna be for every UB set from now on. Thing is, FF fans fucking L O V E all things FF and you're not getting that rabid fanbase reaction on anything else. I could see the main Marvel set getting good sales, but whew I bet they're gonna be real disappointed with the Spiderman sales
Anonymous No.96577746 [Report]
>>96577729
The thing is that a good Spider-Man set probably would have done well. Or at least alright. Not Final Fantasy good or Lord Of The Rings good, but good. But this isn't what we're getting. We're getting the equivalent of the micro set like Assassin's Creed with the majority of the cards being mediocre. It's like the set was designed as a Jumpstart. Intended to be played against each other but without any of the notable cards Jumpstart sets often have among their themed cards.
Anonymous No.96577759 [Report]
>>96574860
>I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MAGIC
lmao ok
Anonymous No.96577781 [Report] >>96577797 >>96577802 >>96577817 >>96577837 >>96579891
How much would dual lands actually drop in price if they theoretically ever got rid of the reserved list?
Anonymous No.96577797 [Report]
>>96577781
>1 in every 200 collectors packs!
None. Price memory is a bitch investors refuse to take losses and pay pigs will always pig out
Anonymous No.96577802 [Report]
>>96577781
only revised duals would drop in price and probably only by 100ish bucks since if they ever did reprint duals they would do it in the most greedy way possible with some over priced vintage masters set thats like 50$ a pack or some shit and the duals would be in the mythic slot
Anonymous No.96577817 [Report]
>>96577781
Depends entirely on how it's done. If Wizards does it well for once and puts them in every precon ever going forward, every set too, then probably a decent amount. The original printings will still some value but the rest not so much.
Anonymous No.96577837 [Report]
>>96577781
How far down did Imperial Seal come after being reprinted at just Mythic?
Anonymous No.96577859 [Report]
>>96577673
Gonna get a box of Gundam myself

>>96577703
Asmira because she's cool
Anonymous No.96577924 [Report]
>>96571483 (OP)
>TQ: What is your favourite chaos-creating effect?

Does Wheel of Fortune count? Favorite red card.
Anonymous No.96578096 [Report] >>96578120 >>96578128 >>96578145 >>96578270 >>96579005 >>96579633 >>96579813 >>96583539
Anyone has experience using Abundance? Is it as good in practice as it appears? I'm thinking of putting it in my Terra, Magical Adept deck
Anonymous No.96578120 [Report]
>>96578096
It's pretty useless in green unless you're going super hard on landfall. It takes a full turn before you get to use it. Compare Cultivate, which nets you a guaranteed land for this turn and the next, or Skyshroud Claim which gives you two right now.
Anonymous No.96578128 [Report]
>>96578096
You will never get mana-flooded, or mana-starved with it out, at least.
Anonymous No.96578145 [Report]
>>96578096
you'd prefer to just have another draw engine in most cases
abundance doesn't develop a resource advantage for you
Anonymous No.96578179 [Report] >>96578195 >>96578202 >>96578240
What does holding priority mean
Anonymous No.96578195 [Report] >>96578250
>>96578179
it means, with your own spell on top of the stack, you don't pass priority to the next player so you can put another action on the stack
e.g. my flow of knowledge is going to resolve, so I hold priority and cast see double to copy the flow of knowledge
Anonymous No.96578202 [Report]
>>96578179
responding to your own spell as its cast
Anonymous No.96578240 [Report]
>>96578179
means you can't ask people if they have any counterspells and once they say no you would copy your shit
Anonymous No.96578250 [Report] >>96578273 >>96578278
>>96578195
What how does that work? They can steal priority from you by responding tho right?
Anonymous No.96578258 [Report]
Prediction for the next banlist?
Anonymous No.96578264 [Report]
>TQ: What is your favourite chaos-creating effect?
Just putting the monarch into play. It's insane how people will wheel and deal over one card per turn
Anonymous No.96578270 [Report]
>>96578096
It's fine. It was a key part of my funny 3-card combo of The Gitrog Monster + Borborygmos Enraged + Abundance to keep chucking lands at people.
Anonymous No.96578273 [Report]
>>96578250
You get the first chance to respond after you put something on the stack, this is "priority". "Holding priority" means taking that chance. "Passing priority" means doing nothing with that chance and asking for responses before resolving the spell. If they respond, you get another chance to act after that.

And the other player(s) can of course respond to the other spell(s) you cast when you hold priority. It's part of the risk; you hold priority to copy your flow of knowledge, but if your flow of knowledge is countered after you put see double on the stack then the see double will fizzle out.
Anonymous No.96578275 [Report]
>>96574860
Haste has been evergreen since Equipment became a thing thi
Anonymous No.96578278 [Report] >>96578286
>>96578250
Priority always begins with the player who started the stack, and is never stolen, only passed around in order. Because priority is never stolen, players can respond to their own spells without allowing for reactions until they are done responding to their own spells. Once they're done responding to things, other players can respond.
Anonymous No.96578283 [Report]
>there are 19 artifact subtypes
Anonymous No.96578286 [Report] >>96578300 >>96578309 >>96578362
>>96578278
So you can avoid counterspells by holding priority and casting something you care less about? That's kinda retarded.
Anonymous No.96578300 [Report]
>>96578286
no, the other players can respond after you put whatever things you put on the stack just as they can when responding to a spell cast alone
holding priority just means that you are the one who has first dibs on responding to your own spell- the other players don't lose their chance to respond, they just go after you.
Anonymous No.96578309 [Report] >>96578362
>>96578286
>So you can avoid counterspells
Nothing in the game avoids counterspells unless it explicitly says "cannot be countered" or you have something out that says "they can't cast spells on your turn"
Anonymous No.96578315 [Report] >>96578395 >>96578429
What's your favorite stax card? This is mine!
Anonymous No.96578362 [Report] >>96578375 >>96578421
>>96578286
Are you a Yugioh player? Unlike the chain you can put new things on the stack as it's resolving, and you can play a counterspell targeting something anywhere on the stack even if other things have been played on top of it.
>>96578309
Split Second.
Anonymous No.96578375 [Report]
>>96578362
>Split Second.
Fuck you're right, I knew I was forgetting something
Anonymous No.96578382 [Report]
>>96575932
>>96576018

>ninjitsu comes back
>is this shit instead of more kamigawa
Anonymous No.96578395 [Report] >>96578429
>>96578315
step aside scrub and witness true oppression
Anonymous No.96578421 [Report] >>96578437
>>96578362
Yeah I played Master Duel for a while before, i thought the stack works exactly like the chain. I also saw Magic youtubers say they're identical I guess that's why i was confused.
Anonymous No.96578429 [Report]
>>96578315
>>96578395
I raise thee
Anonymous No.96578437 [Report]
>>96578421
Functionally they are most of the time. However even if it worked like the chain, counterspells in Magic let you aim them at everything on the stack, not just the most recent spell. Think of it like using Imperm on the CL1 monster at CL3.
Anonymous No.96578532 [Report]
Anonymous No.96578706 [Report] >>96578712 >>96578752 >>96578954 >>96581557
>find a commander while browsing
>get really hyped to play it
>build a deck online
>order some of the cards
>can't afford to buy entire decklists anymore, so plan to just buy a bit at a time
>test on archidekt in the meantime
>find a different commander
>get hyped about that
>prioritise building that one over the previous one
>stop buying cards for the previous one
>end up with dozens of cards for hypothetical decks
Why am I like this?
Anonymous No.96578712 [Report] >>96578842 >>96581557
>>96578706
ADHD
Anonymous No.96578737 [Report] >>96578746 >>96578748 >>96578756 >>96578763 >>96578764 >>96578788 >>96579176
How strong would it be?
Anonymous No.96578739 [Report]
Spider-Man is cool
Anonymous No.96578746 [Report]
>>96578737
Make it 8-10 mana with no built in cost reduction and its fair. This reads
>win the game
Anonymous No.96578748 [Report] >>96578756
>>96578737
completely and utterly busted
this is infinite mana and draw your entire deck as long as you have any crucible of worlds effect

if it exiled lands you tap it would be more reasonable
Anonymous No.96578752 [Report] >>96578842
>>96578706
im about as autistic as you in that I made changes to my decks constantly and got bored with commanders too quickly, my solution was just to netdeck something for a while to force myself to just stick with something. Now I have a great go-to bracket 3 artifact deck that ive been playing for 6 months now and still haven't gotten bored of it at all.
Anonymous No.96578756 [Report]
>>96578737
>>96578748
and even then it would still be busted because you could just have a 95 land deck plus a win the game combo that activates on turn 3
Anonymous No.96578759 [Report] >>96578773
>>96576300
Same guy angry when people say "you"
Anonymous No.96578763 [Report] >>96578768 >>96578774
>>96578737
your deck is now 98 lands and thassas oracle, gg
Anonymous No.96578764 [Report] >>96578774
>>96578737
Even if the lands exiled on tap, 49 Islands, 49 Forests and a Thoracle.
Anonymous No.96578768 [Report] >>96578774
>>96578763
lol I'm glad I'm not the only one that instantly realized this. Thoracle or LabMan auto include to instantly win
Anonymous No.96578773 [Report] >>96578779
>>96578759
that guy is me and i say I hold priority almost every game
Anonymous No.96578774 [Report] >>96578781 >>96578783 >>96579023
>>96578763
>>96578764
>>96578768
thassas oracle really does fuck this format huh
Anonymous No.96578779 [Report]
>>96578773
No YOU don't
Anonymous No.96578781 [Report]
>>96578774
even if thoracle didnt exist that would still be a retardedly overpowered card
Anonymous No.96578783 [Report]
>>96578774
Even without Thoracle, there's a dozen ways to make the deck just nintysomething lands and your combo pieces
Anonymous No.96578788 [Report] >>96579052
>>96578737
>what if tatyova with fastbond in the command zone
lol
Anonymous No.96578842 [Report]
>>96578712
Undiagnosed if true :(
>>96578752
I like most of the decks I have, the problem is I just constantly want more
>Bruna self-mill auras would be so fun! She so niche but so powerful if I can swing with her!
>Oh Sigarda human tribal would be so fun! I never see human tribal and it's so well supported!
>Oh Trynn and Silvar human aristocrats would be so fun! I don't have any partner commanders!
>Oh Adrix & Nev token spam would be so fun! That new card Moonlit Meditation would fit into it so well!
>Oh Anikthea sagas would be so fun! I love saga creatures and hate UB, I could do "saga creatures at home"!
Genuinely all decks I have looked at and started putting cards together for in the last 2 months alone
Anonymous No.96578954 [Report]
>>96578706
You're just like me. I have about a dozen decks in the aether.
Anonymous No.96579005 [Report]
>>96578096
I like it because it makes the nekusar player seeth.
Anonymous No.96579023 [Report]
>>96578774
It's one of the very few cards that I wish never existed.
Anonymous No.96579052 [Report]
>>96578788
Don't forget something to negate the 1 damage
Anonymous No.96579176 [Report]
>>96578737
Are you retarded, anon? This would the most overpowered legend ever printed.
Anonymous No.96579185 [Report] >>96579193 >>96579195 >>96579198 >>96579205 >>96579646
How do I make mono white work? It always feels way too slow for my pod.
Anonymous No.96579193 [Report]
>>96579185
play cards that slow everyone else down as well
Anonymous No.96579195 [Report]
>>96579185
What's the power level of your group?
Anonymous No.96579198 [Report] >>96579205 >>96579227 >>96579227
>>96579185
Your deck is too slow? the only solutions are to speed up (and play something like life gain aggro), or make everyone play as slow as you. Eidolon of Rhetoric, High Noon, Deafening Silence, Archon of Emeria, etc. Staxmaxxing is the only thing monowhite really has in terms of strong decks.
Anonymous No.96579205 [Report]
>>96579185
>>96579198
Removal and Hatebears. Run Odric, Master Tactician to keep them safe and to remove the other players utility creatures.
Anonymous No.96579227 [Report] >>96579287
>>96579198
>and play something like life gain aggro
Literally what I am trying and it is too slow regardless of how wide or weenie intended.
Honestly it seems to primarily be an issue with early draw and ramp. Unless I am missing things, white doesn't have much draw that'll hit before turn 3. And much of it is conditioned on something. So even with plenty of draw, it starts too late to really solve the issue. Ramp is a similar issue.

>>96579198
You need an established board state by turn 4.
Anonymous No.96579287 [Report]
>>96579227
Play catchup stuff
Knight of the White Orchid, Sand Scout, Ambitious Farmhand, Weathered Wayfarer etc along with bounce lands and lotus field to ensure you'll have fewer lands than your opponents. Maybe even roll with Beza as commander

You don't need card draw before turn 3 in ur weenie deck anyway, you're not going to run out of cards fast enough for that.
Anonymous No.96579299 [Report] >>96579311 >>96579314 >>96582183
>trying to make a new Nekusar deck for cheap
>while goldfishing cant seem to get it to work
>swap the land base out for ridiculous expensive shit
>deck works a million times better now
Is landbase the most prohibitive shit when it comes to deck building?
Anonymous No.96579311 [Report]
>>96579299
there is no reason at all not to just proxymaxx when it comes to lands
Anonymous No.96579314 [Report]
>>96579299
It's by far the most shilled part and it's not even close. You can make viable, budget manabases, but people on here refuse to give up their shock/fetch lands
Anonymous No.96579329 [Report] >>96579335 >>96579336
Is it possible to create a commander deck using only the Spider-Man cards?
Anonymous No.96579335 [Report]
>>96579329
considering there is a 5c legend and more than 100 cards in the set i would say yes
Anonymous No.96579336 [Report]
>>96579329
Only? No. Mainly Spider-Man cards? Yeah. A villain deck is gonna use a lot of cards from the set.
It's probably gonna blow though.
Anonymous No.96579553 [Report] >>96579612 >>96579713 >>96579800
https://moxfield.com/decks/33PMyuYl-EigD5aUaA5HSA
Any suggestions for additions and/or cuts for this deck? I'm keeping it high bracket 3.
Anonymous No.96579559 [Report]
>>96576045

People aren't really afraid of Atraxa more that they're just tired of seeing her. For a few years you couldn't play a game without someone putting down their Totally Original Atraxa Build onto the table.
Anonymous No.96579566 [Report]
>>96576045
im afraid of atraxa because its always superfriends decks that need 20 minutes to take 1 turn that accomplishes nothing
Anonymous No.96579567 [Report] >>96579658 >>96579827 >>96580766 >>96581824
Has anyone built Eshki? Is she any fun? The fact that she cares about creature power on cast had me looking up some dumber than average cards for her but it looked like it could devolve into a Goodstuff pile easily.
Anonymous No.96579599 [Report]
What's that site that lets you pick any mtg card art and get a playmat of it? I thought it was ultra pro but I don't see it
Anonymous No.96579612 [Report] >>96579668 >>96579713
>>96579553
you've only got three sources of extra land plays and one play lands from gy, though you have a bunch of one-shot splendid reclamation effects.
does kavaron do much for you?
I was going to say dryad arbor for GSZ but it was in the lands column instead of creatures.
is your wincon to get hearthhull online and sac everything?
you are running incredibly low to the ground here, you could honestly even cut sol ring. related, how much is valakut exploration usually hitting people for?
Anonymous No.96579624 [Report] >>96579651
Whenever anyone in my playgroup plays a gamechanger inevitably someone will say "game changer alert".
Anonymous No.96579633 [Report]
>>96578096
I like it. Helps fix a turn's draw often enough which can really make a difference. And that it lets you swap out for every draw does make a difference depending on what your opponents have on board.
Anonymous No.96579646 [Report]
>>96579185
Depends completely on the commander. Which did you want to use?
Anonymous No.96579651 [Report] >>96579655 >>96579656 >>96579670
>>96579624
I'm so thankful my friends don't play expensive bullshit cards. One time someone showed up with a proxy Smothering Tithe and we all talked so much shit at him about it to where he took it out and we've never seen it again
Anonymous No.96579655 [Report]
>>96579651
This is unironically how a social format should police itself.
Anonymous No.96579656 [Report] >>96579665
>>96579651
Not all game changers are expensive.
Anonymous No.96579658 [Report]
>>96579567
Played against her a couple of times. She's pretty insane. Though she also does feel like she would naturally lend herself best to just a big pile.
Anonymous No.96579665 [Report]
>>96579656
>Braids is less than 50 cents
>Notion Thief less than $1
Yeah true, but the vast majority of them are. And we've agreed that expensive cards are, largely, fucking retarded
Anonymous No.96579668 [Report] >>96579713 >>96579753
>>96579612
I've only tested through goldfishing at this point, so difficult to answer some of your questions. Though yes, the game plan is to win from an enormous rush of sacrificing lands, returning them, repeating them as needed to kill tbe table.
>playing lands from the graveyard
Yeah, I probably need another few instances of these. Ideally, strapped to a creature. Ramunap Excavator seems like the best choice as it tutors off everything in the deck
>Kavaron
Probably the weakest utility land in the deck. Could easily be cut for something else. Maybe Command Beacon as Hearthhull is very important to winning. Of course I could include Glacial Chasm but I'm trying to keep this bracket 3.
>sol ring
Yeah, it could go in favour of some other land-to-battlefield ramp spell. Any suggestions?
>valakut exploration
No idea what its damage output potential is at this stage of testing. It is a great card advantage engine however.
Anonymous No.96579670 [Report]
>>96579651
I am glad my group isn't like this. We had someone come in and try to whine about game changers and shit and made it very clear they should find another group.
Anonymous No.96579672 [Report] >>96579674
>TQ
>What is your favourite chaos-creating effect?
Define chaos creating effect
Anonymous No.96579674 [Report] >>96579677
>>96579672
an effect that creates chaos
Anonymous No.96579677 [Report]
>>96579674
Timesifter then
Anonymous No.96579713 [Report] >>96579723 >>96579742 >>96579760 >>96579768 >>96579769 >>96579778
>>96579553
>>96579612
>>96579668
Made a few changes:
>Cut
Sol Ring
Mayhem Devil
Kavaron
Strip Mine
>Added
Ramunap Excavator
Restore
Kessig Wolf Run
Inkmoth Nexus
Anonymous No.96579723 [Report]
>>96579713
>cut sol ring
CRINGE
Anonymous No.96579742 [Report]
>>96579713
>Cut
>Sol Ring
based
Anonymous No.96579747 [Report]
>Make a fuckton of blue mana with Uthros
>Hmm, what do I even have to spend it on? I guess I can make a duplicate karnstruct with Worldwalker, or
>remember I have Memnarch on the field.
Anonymous No.96579752 [Report] >>96579769 >>96579801
>To cast a split card, choose one of its halves to cast. There's no way to cast both halves of this split card.
Ohhhhh what the fuck? My pod has been allowing being able to play both halves for years if at least one is an instant. If both are sorceries we don't allow it of course, but we always thought both halves can be played if the timing rules are followed. Has it always been like this??
Anonymous No.96579753 [Report] >>96579773
>>96579668
Obviously there's crucible, but nothing you're running searches it. Ramunap works with GSZ and imperial recruiter, yeah. Technically so does perennial behemoth, but he's 5 mana, the unearth is a little compelling though.
You could replace sol ring with arboreal grazer or elvish pioneer, if you want to replace a 1drop with a 1 drop. You could also do broken bond, or heck even Explore. Aside from that, you're running nature's lore and three visits but not farseek.
Do you have any options if you get bojuka bog'd?
Titania can give you a winning boardstate, but only if your engine is already going.
Unless I'm missing one (1), you're running valakut with exactly five (5 (four other)) mountains.
Anonymous No.96579760 [Report]
>>96579713
>cut sol ring
absolute mad man
Anonymous No.96579768 [Report] >>96579776
>>96579713
>Kessig Wolf Run
It amazes me how few people run this land when they have those colors. It's fucking fantastic
Anonymous No.96579769 [Report] >>96579772
>>96579713
>cut sol ring
absolute glad man

>>96579752
that's a cute houserule, but yeah, it's always been like this. you can't take cards from the stack and cast them.
Anonymous No.96579772 [Report]
>>96579769
>it's always been like this
fucking WHOOPS. Now I'm wondering what the hell else we've been fucking up all this time
>you can't take cards from the stack and cast them.
Yeah I mean we've been doing the "pay for both halves at the same time" thing, so we're not *technically* taking it from the stack, we're putting both halves on the stack at the same time
Anonymous No.96579773 [Report] >>96579846
>>96579753
>farseek
I considered that, but it enters tapped and usually when I'm wanting it for ramp I won't have a way to have the land enter untapped. I'll try Restore and if that is shit, I'll just switch to Farseek. Arboreal Grazer is also a decent suggestion (1 drop for 1 drop). The elf is good synergy with Nissa, but it only does basics.
>Valakut
If I have Dryad of the Ilysian Grove out, it hits for insane damage.
>options in case theres graveyard hate
Unfortunately not, I am open to suggestions. Something like Gaea's Blessing, but at instant speed?
Anonymous No.96579776 [Report]
>>96579768
Insane with Inkmoth Nexus, too. Kills out of nowhere.
Anonymous No.96579778 [Report]
>>96579713
Anon told him to cut the Sol Ring and he actually did it, the absolute mad man!!
Anonymous No.96579795 [Report]
>>96576131
Patrician taste, going to scoop some up before it skyrockets.
Anonymous No.96579800 [Report] >>96579802 >>96579833 >>96580315 >>96581688
>>96579553
Here is the updated list, bros.
https://moxfield.com/decks/33PMyuYl-EigD5aUaA5HSA
Anonymous No.96579801 [Report] >>96579803
>>96579752
>sorceries we dont allow of course
This is funny cause. Youre just mistaking all split cards with fuse cards.
Anonymous No.96579802 [Report]
>>96579800
>he cut the sol ring
mad lad, you aren't allowed to add it back ever
Anonymous No.96579803 [Report]
>>96579801
Fuck! That's absolutely where we got the idea from, good lord thank you this was KILLING me
Anonymous No.96579806 [Report] >>96579810 >>96579837
>need to cut 1 card
>can't
Is there a worse feeling?
Anonymous No.96579810 [Report] >>96579825 >>96579856
>>96579806
Yes:
>need to cut 1 card
>can't
>your pet not-actually-very-good card is among the candidates for removal
Anonymous No.96579813 [Report]
>>96578096
Everyone has missed the key thing about this thing
It's anti mill tech
Anonymous No.96579816 [Report] >>96579935
>guy casts tempt with discovery
>'don't give him 4 lands'
>I cast tempt with mayhem on a finale of revelation, x = 15
>no one copies it because the guy that cast tempt with discovery bitches hard out and says don't let me draw 60
>he has 0 cards in hand
>offer you cant refuse the original
>lol thx
>4 cards between the three of my opponents
>aethersnap (squirrel player, proliferate player in tears)
>drop sheoldred, they have to sac their commanders

I've never seen so much baby rage in one game now that I think on it. If you have the chance to draw 15 cards and no max hand size the rest of the game - but your opponent draws 15 more cards while you have an empty hand, would you draw?
Anonymous No.96579825 [Report] >>96579856
>>96579810
>your pet not-actually-very-good card is among the candidates for removal
I'd rather kill myself.
Anonymous No.96579827 [Report]
>>96579567
Oh boy yes, she is TONS of fun.
My Russian steppe wife made me win 4 out of 7 games against my friends playing nasty-ass shit like Tifa, Yuriko, Giada and Jetmir earlier tonight. I've spent about 60~ish freedom coins upgrading the precon while trying to keep it in-theme to dragons as much as possible.
The idea is to cast 6+ power shit as often as you can to burn your opponents repeatedly and whenever possible grant her a large amount of +1/+1s and trample so she can burn for a ton then finish the job via combat damage. You need to be aggresive in your plays and ALWAYS have a way to ramp in your opening hand, mulligan to 5 cards if you must.
Boardwipes of choice are damage-based so she and the dragons can survive them more often than not and dragons snowball insanely quickly if left unchecked so even if she gets targeted repeatedly that just means your opponents get ran over by a dozen flying, double striking, trampling creatures. Here's my decklist: https://archidekt.com/decks/16129840/bad_dragon_baddie
There's a couple extra cards in there because I keep flip-flopping about what to cut. Also the enchantments are your best friends if you can pop them in early and they survive even a couple of turns, and I've talked about picrel before but it's won me more games than I can remember and it's always hilarious to watch your opponents deliberate on how they want to die.
Anonymous No.96579833 [Report]
>>96579800
>killing the table with huge instance of damage that isn't infiniteslop
SOVL
Anonymous No.96579837 [Report] >>96579840 >>96579893
>>96579806
>sort by mana
>highest cost card goes
How I do it most of the time
Anonymous No.96579840 [Report] >>96579842
>>96579837
>implying I'd ever remove Teferi's Protection or Worldfire
Anonymous No.96579842 [Report] >>96579848 >>96579857
>>96579840
>Worldfire
FUCK YEAH
Anonymous No.96579846 [Report] >>96579867
>>96579773
>it only does basics
Ah whoops, missed that.
Blessed Respite is the MH2 reference to Gaea's Blessing, then there's always Elixir of Immortality (not that good), Feldon's Cane, uhhhhhhhhhhh be funny and hit people with Cosmogoyf
Do the bounce lands help your landfall triggers, or do you think it would be better with smoldering marsh/vernal fen/the other one? or/also riveteers overlook is a free sac/extra landfall.

Random thought, do you own this precon, or are you buying the cards from it separately? A few of these suggestions seem to be in the precon.
Anonymous No.96579848 [Report] >>96579853
>>96579842
>changes the game more than almost every single other card ever
>not a Game Changer (tm)
Anonymous No.96579853 [Report]
>>96579848
Because it is MLD and is automatically bracket 4 where a card being a game changer no longer matters.
Anonymous No.96579856 [Report] >>96579875 >>96579888 >>96579927 >>96579943
>>96579810
>>96579825
I found myself doing this more and more because my sweatlord pod does nothing but optimizing the fun out of everything. They don't even have pet cards, for they have no soul

also
>mfw someone's pet card is just a relatively recent format wide goodstuf staple.crd
Anonymous No.96579857 [Report]
>>96579842
One of the best big mana spells in Magic and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
Anonymous No.96579859 [Report] >>96580190
My new pet card
Anonymous No.96579867 [Report] >>96579882
>>96579846
>elixir
Actually not too bad, as it is tutorable through Urza's Saga which I will be aiming to get into play ASAP through Crop Rotation, Sylvan Scrying etc, as most of the time it will grab the Amulet of Vigor
>bounce lands
They're in there because of the ways in which I can have lands enter untapped, and their good synergy with Amulet of Vigor and Horizon Explorer, allowing them to tap for 2 mana then return themselves.
>do I own the pre-con?
No, I don't. I have a lot of these cards, just need to find a way to get a few of the more expensive ones (Squandered Resources and Burgeoning are at the top of my Want trades list). I haven't actually even looked at the decklist for the pre-con, truth be told. Probably should do that.
Anonymous No.96579875 [Report]
>>96579856
>not having pet cards with soul
Couldn't be me. I've put them in every deck I've built going back like a decade
Anonymous No.96579882 [Report]
>>96579867
>elixir
Feldon's Cane is just straight up better, my bad.
Anonymous No.96579887 [Report] >>96579936 >>96579940 >>96580640 >>96580643 >>96582211
Did anyone here actually go to Spiderman pre release? It was super dead compared to other sets in my area. People overall seem to dislike the set a lot
Anonymous No.96579888 [Report]
>>96579856
>had to cut pet cards to keep up with tryhard pod
weep for this man
Anonymous No.96579889 [Report]
>Spiderman commanders
These all feel kinda lame compared to the FF ones. Like did they even try at all here?
Anonymous No.96579891 [Report]
>>96577781
Depends entirely how rare they are. The revised ones would drop a fuckton as people would try sell out of them knowing that more reprints will come.
A/B prob would barely move. Unlimited is harder to gauge.
Anonymous No.96579893 [Report]
>>96579837
but mycosynth golem never costs 11!
Anonymous No.96579900 [Report]
Anyone run semi-blue lately? Was looking at rog thras lists but idk over vial thras or yoshi thras
Anonymous No.96579908 [Report] >>96579918 >>96579919 >>96579920 >>96579944
If Wizards was to ban the partner mechanic today, what would be the top 5 cEDH decks?
Anonymous No.96579918 [Report]
>>96579908
Kinnan
Tivit
Magda
Kenrith
Najeela
Anonymous No.96579919 [Report]
>>96579908
Urza
Anonymous No.96579920 [Report]
>>96579908
>If Wizards was to ban the partner mechanic today
I would be sad because I'm finally making progress into the 4c decks in the 32 deck challenge and Partner is the only thing making it possible (I hate the single card options)
Anonymous No.96579927 [Report]
>>96579856
>dude I love Orcish Bowmasters, I dominated with it on arena, i put him in every deck, he is literally my pet
foul
Anonymous No.96579935 [Report]
>>96579816
>If you have the chance to draw 15 cards and no max hand size the rest of the game - but your opponent draws 15 more cards while you have an empty hand, would you draw?
Yes, because that game is already basically over unless the guy already drawing 15 is about to die anyway
Anonymous No.96579936 [Report]
>>96579887
The set is just really weak. Sets don't need to be completely explosive but when there isn't any cards to be interested in then there will be no interest in the set.
Anonymous No.96579940 [Report]
>>96579887
Going on Saturday. They sold out of a few of the pre-releases here. My lgs has 40 spots per
Anonymous No.96579943 [Report] >>96579957 >>96580093
>>96579856
Pet card coming through
Anonymous No.96579944 [Report]
>>96579908
Would too much change? There's some big name partner commanders but the big problem commanders do it on their own usually.
Anonymous No.96579957 [Report] >>96579972
>>96579943
God I love this card so so so much. Grabbed this foil cuz it's so fucking good
Anonymous No.96579972 [Report] >>96579977
>>96579957
It's a bit too goofy for my tastes but any thing in the ice appreciator is a bro of mine
Anonymous No.96579977 [Report]
>>96579972
Anonymous No.96580093 [Report] >>96580116
>>96579943
This guy is pretty awesome. Been working on Orvar lately and I like the constant threat he provides while you make your copies of rocks and other stuff with Orvar. Extra copies of The Thing In The Ice too to keep up pressure.
Anonymous No.96580116 [Report] >>96580233
>>96580093
I like this idea and will now add it to my orvar deck
Anonymous No.96580190 [Report] >>96580221 >>96580679
>>96579859
>not a single White person in that "art".
>friendly
(((they))) aren't even trying to hide it.
Anonymous No.96580221 [Report]
>>96580190
Peter Parker is white.
Anonymous No.96580233 [Report]
>>96580116
That Orvar is a changeling does a surprisingly large amount for him.
Anonymous No.96580295 [Report] >>96580299 >>96580845
Going to cheat in some more bracket 3 games tonight. Which setup should I use?
>Staple Surprise
>Show and Science
>Enchantment Removal
>Ruling Reprieve
Anonymous No.96580299 [Report] >>96580322
>>96580295
What does any of this mean
Anonymous No.96580315 [Report]
>>96579800
Deck looks fun. Only thing I'd suggest is cutting 1 forest for a snow-covered forest as it is another land name for your FotD.
Anonymous No.96580322 [Report] >>96580328 >>96580619 >>96580845
>>96580299
Think of it like a Henry Stickmin game where you have to choose an option and I describe how it plays out.
Turn 1 Smothering Tithe into a turn 2 wheel. Amass control of the game accordingly with 21 mana on turn 2. Play as many top EDHrec cards as possible.
Turn 2 Grand Abolisher, turn 3 Show and Tell into Omniscience. Create an unbreakable pillowfort before slowly playing stax pieces that grind the game to a halt but don't advance towards a win.
Tinybones from the 99 into a discard engine. Donate Zur's Weirding to an opponent and play Tamiyo, Collector of Tales so nobody can draw cards except me.
Get 3 copies of Isochron Scepter onto the field. Imprint them with Reprieve, Mana Drain, and Unsubstantiate. Resolve Teferi, Time Raveler and Rule of Law. Keep a Nimble Obstructionist ready for anyone trying to be cheeky with a Kamigawa land.
Anonymous No.96580328 [Report]
>>96580322
I love isochron sceptre so definitely ruling reprieve
Anonymous No.96580337 [Report] >>96580471
>Volrath, the Shapestealer + Devoted Druid + Chronotog
Anonymous No.96580471 [Report]
>>96580337
ok I block with my 2/2
Anonymous No.96580601 [Report] >>96580672
I like playing decks that one shot all my opponents, but no one seems to like it, even if I hold off on doing it until like turn 10, what gives!
Anonymous No.96580612 [Report]
Thread is getting slow and boring...
Universes Beyond. Discuss.
Anonymous No.96580618 [Report]
Ya got schemes? I got schemes!
Anonymous No.96580619 [Report] >>96581568
>>96580322
What is stopping your opponents from just walking away from the table due to your antics, anon?
Anonymous No.96580640 [Report]
>>96579887
I went to one. Prereleases at my local store generally get 40+ attendants
The spiderman prerelease had fewer than 20 people.
Anonymous No.96580643 [Report]
>>96579887
I went to play EDH, and there were more people there for that than the pre-release lol
Anonymous No.96580648 [Report]
Is there any rakdos commander that does not scream TARGET ME!
Anonymous No.96580672 [Report]
>>96580601
it's a psychological thing
let's compare damage to say purchases. most woudn't spend like hundreds on cards in one go but buying singles over the year can easily rack up that number since buying in smaller increments doesn't feel that bad. kinda like why microtransactions are so popular.
so I'd argue in-game damage can feel the same way. people leave a player alone for as long as they are not a problem but if you become the problem in one go then it's too late
tldr:
they are bad at threat assesment
Anonymous No.96580675 [Report] >>96580712
What commander he playing?
Anonymous No.96580679 [Report]
>>96580190
Anon the guy in the foreground to the right of the art is clearly white, he's just in shadow.
Anonymous No.96580712 [Report]
>>96580675
Anonymous No.96580766 [Report]
>>96579567
I pulled her in the sample pack thing with one of the other decks and built her as a pile of craws and dreadmaws using random draft chaff I had laying around. I don't have a single dragon in the deck, which tends to catch people off guard since she was in a dragon tribal precon. She's a lot of fun, feels like she has a lot of voltron style qualities while also wanting to go wide. Very fragile lynchpin though, so you're going to want to pack a lot of protection so she doesn't die as soon as she's about to do something. She very quickly becomes a removal magnet, but starts off pretty non-threatening looking, so people tend to remove her once you've already invested some time into building her up but before she's able to start blasting everyone for a lot of damage.
Anonymous No.96580792 [Report] >>96580805 >>96582096
Which creature should I cut to add Bob in Y'shtola precon: Tataru Taru or Hildibrand Manderville?
Anonymous No.96580794 [Report] >>96580799 >>96580801
Does a stationed spaceship keep it's charge counters if it goes to the command zone?
Anonymous No.96580799 [Report]
>>96580794
no. nothing but skullbriar keeps counters when changing zones in the game
Anonymous No.96580801 [Report]
>>96580794
Nah, you need to crew it again.
Anonymous No.96580805 [Report] >>96580811
>>96580792
Taru for obvious reasons
Anonymous No.96580811 [Report]
>>96580805
>obvious reasons
Lalafell segregation?
Anonymous No.96580845 [Report]
>>96580322
>>96580295
Genuinely one of the gayest posts I've read in this thread. I hate zoomers so fucking much
Anonymous No.96580929 [Report] >>96581577 >>96581880
2nd best card in the FF set btw
Anonymous No.96580965 [Report] >>96581075 >>96581370 >>96581601 >>96582150 >>96582801 >>96584387
Why does he do it?
Anonymous No.96581070 [Report] >>96581087 >>96581123 >>96582202 >>96582794
>Wait a minute, let me count the cards in your deck. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97...this deck isn't legal! This guy is a cheater!
Your reaction?
Anonymous No.96581075 [Report]
>>96580965
søymilk and somehow that guy was allowed to teach.
think about that for a sec.
Anonymous No.96581087 [Report] >>96581105 >>96581107
>>96581070
>Your reaction?
i dont let anyone touch my cards to begin with
>what if they are playing "mr steal yo girl" archetype?!
still not touching my shit.
simple as.
Anonymous No.96581092 [Report] >>96581885
Will they make a new version in the Lorwyn set?
Anonymous No.96581105 [Report]
>>96581087
You sound like an exhausting, miserable person.
Anonymous No.96581107 [Report]
>>96581087
>I cast Gonti and look at the top four cards of you libr-
>DON'T TOUCH MY CARDS REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous No.96581123 [Report]
>>96581070
Oh no! Anyway...
Anonymous No.96581125 [Report] >>96581130 >>96581147
I've had an autistic hyperfixation on this card and weapons manufacturing. Any commanders that would best use this? I don't want artifact comboslop. Also, no Breya, no Dr. Eggman, and no Ragost, Reddit Gastronaut
Anonymous No.96581130 [Report]
>>96581125
There is a cool rakdos commander called Imskir Iron Eater if you like those colours
Anonymous No.96581147 [Report]
>>96581125
>no Dr. Eggman
I genuinely don't get why Dr. Eggman decks have such a hardon for this card, yes it's a huge CMC Robot you could cheat out but most Dr. Eggman decks go tall not wide and play artifact creatures not noncreatures artifacts
Anonymous No.96581161 [Report] >>96581171
Just got raped by someone cheating out a hasted annihilator 10 Ulamog the Defiler with Ardyn on Arena.
Think i'm gonna have to build this in paper.
Anonymous No.96581171 [Report]
>>96581161
>Ardyn
Sorry, this thread is Universes Within only. You'll have to leave. Don't come back.
Anonymous No.96581178 [Report] >>96581198
This Green Goblin villain tribal deck shouldn’t be working as well as it is and I’m shocked.
Anonymous No.96581198 [Report] >>96581260 >>96581559
>>96581178
I don't see anything
Anonymous No.96581260 [Report]
>>96581198
I can post the list in a bit.
Anonymous No.96581370 [Report] >>96581535
>>96580965
He is just a dishonest and a legit shill for wotc.
Anonymous No.96581535 [Report]
>>96581370
I actually believe he is controlled opposition.
Anonymous No.96581557 [Report]
>>96578706
I agree with >>96578712 I got medicated recently and building decks is way easier now but there's still ones that are such massive headaches I basically don't bother. Building brawl decks on arena still sucks tho
Anonymous No.96581559 [Report] >>96581570
>>96581198
This is what I’m running. I still need the Venom from the welcome deck. The main set one is too dogshit even by this decks very low standards.
Anonymous No.96581565 [Report] >>96581572
is this game going to go back to making Magic sets mostly or are they not finished cucking out with other IPs yet?

I was just about done after they printed Blackagorn so I've been checked out for a while, I'm sure it's not gotten better.
Anonymous No.96581568 [Report]
>>96580619
Nothing, but it's a group of wannabe pubstomper trannies so they won't scoop for anything because they really, really want to beat me. It's a fun opportunity to goldfish Christmas hands AND make hoes mad.
Anonymous No.96581570 [Report]
>>96581559
Motherfucker
https://archidekt.com/decks/16135789/goblin_mode
Anonymous No.96581572 [Report] >>96581590 >>96581611 >>96581914
>>96581565
No. We just got an awful Marvel set with an implication we're getting 6 more.
Anonymous No.96581577 [Report] >>96581762 >>96581845
>>96580929
Thats just removal bait.
Anonymous No.96581590 [Report]
>>96581572
shit... I wonder how Yugioh's doing these days...?
Anonymous No.96581601 [Report]
>>96580965
If you’re being intellectually honest and not a shitheel, he tells people that the set is bad but also KNOWS that people are going to buy it anyway so he helps those that do since that’s his job and what he likes to do.
Anonymous No.96581611 [Report] >>96581897 >>96581920
>>96581572
The implication isn’t that the other 6 will be awful. I assume they are overhauling the Beyond Booster shit they planned and after this dogshit of a set they will put more effort into the other. Really sad that Spider-Man had to be the sacrifice. Talk about Park Luck.
Anonymous No.96581651 [Report]
>>96571483 (OP)
>TQ
Humility. You might say it’s not a chaos card… resolve it once.

Hot take: I wish they would unban Upheaval. I’ve very rarely scooped to an overloaded cyclonic rift, there’s still a chance to make it sometimes; however I would be mentally ok with scooping to Upheaval. Lands make the difference and I think I’m not alone either in this thinking.

Currently making and testing a 5c Sunforger tribal deck with 50 targets for the sunforger which is actually the secret commander. Child of Alara as commander for now; might swap it for Atogatog to be more thematic.
Anonymous No.96581688 [Report] >>96583646
>>96579800
Looks like a fun deck! I got both EoE precons and just finished upgrading Kilo. I'm now working on upgrading Szarel as the commander and your list certainly gave me a lot of options to consider. I own most of the bond lands and Overgrown Tomb but none of the fetch lands. It seems like they are necessary for the bugman due to the sac triggers. Or are there cheaper options? I try to limit myself to $250 per deck. Thanks again for posting the updated list.
Anonymous No.96581762 [Report]
>>96581577
no u
Anonymous No.96581794 [Report] >>96581876 >>96581993 >>96582212
good to see the reddit magic community is still as faggoty as ever
Anonymous No.96581824 [Report] >>96581832
>>96579567
>Attractive female
>Lesbian
Why does JotC do this?
Anonymous No.96581832 [Report] >>96581845
>>96581824
Having a wife doesn't necessarily mean she's a lesbian. Bisexuality exists.
Anonymous No.96581845 [Report]
>>96581577
That means its strong anon..
>>96581832
Except it doesnt.
Anonymous No.96581876 [Report]
>>96581794
Imagine being old lmao
Anonymous No.96581880 [Report]
>>96580929
I never realized this guy doesn't have flying. Thought for sure he'd have it by default. Been meaning to build him.
Anonymous No.96581885 [Report] >>96581895
>>96581092
Probably? But it will likely follow the new designs for goblins they've been doing. Given the anime art treatment.
Anonymous No.96581895 [Report] >>96581901 >>96581948
>>96581885
Why? Goblin design is plane specific.
Anonymous No.96581897 [Report]
>>96581611
>Talk about Parker Luck.
It really is. It's impressive how shit this set so far has proven to be. Even knowing how incompetent Wizards can be I have to imagine they'll have to learn from this and make the following sets better.
Anonymous No.96581901 [Report] >>96581926
>>96581895
How did Ravnica afford giving all Goblins free nose surgery?
Anonymous No.96581914 [Report] >>96581929
>>96581572
There's no implication we're getting 6 more. At most we're getting 5 more but that's very unlikely. 3 more is the most likely amount to me (X-Men, Avengers/General, Fantastic Four/Cosmic).
Anonymous No.96581920 [Report]
>>96581611
Spider-Man was, to my knowledge, the only Marvel set that started as a small set, so the other Marvel sets won't have the design issues SPM did.
Anonymous No.96581926 [Report]
>>96581901
I have no idea what youre talking about
Anonymous No.96581929 [Report] >>96582133
>>96581914
6 infinity stones + gauntlet.
Anonymous No.96581948 [Report]
>>96581895
It's supposed to be but we've already seen Krenko redesigned in his later arts.
Anonymous No.96581993 [Report]
>>96581794
This is so fucking funny because I was born in 87 and it was actually the trend in the late 90s/early 00s to put your birth year at the end of usernames. But the youth these days apparently doesn't know this
Anonymous No.96582010 [Report] >>96582021 >>96582024
So I pulled an Anti-Venom at a prerelease yesterday and apparently this is one of the most popular commanders of this set but I'm not sure I understand why. It seems to me like the deck can only do one thing, equip your commander with a pariah effect and give it some form of protection, either waiting around to be able to do all that in a single turn under a silence effect or praying that you somehow survive a rotation without any interaction thrown your way.

Am I missing something or is it actually bad? I looked up some gameplay videos of it and it just seems to confirm what I suspect, you basically do nothing but cast your commander and see it being removed all game.
Anonymous No.96582021 [Report]
>>96582010
He's also mono-white reanimator which is quite uncommon.
Anonymous No.96582024 [Report]
>>96582010
>If damage would be dealt to Anti-Venom, prevent that damage and put that many +1/+1 counters on him.
There's *a lot* of damage redirection tricks in white. Hell, these are straight up free
>you basically do nothing but cast your commander and see it being removed all game.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Kill on Sight commanders! Good thing white has a shitload of instants with "creature gets hexproof/indestructible until EoT"
Anonymous No.96582031 [Report] >>96582045
>didn't pull Green Goblin during my prerelease
Its over... at least the prices look to be cratering. My only mythic was Gwenom, hopefully i can offload her for Norman
Anonymous No.96582045 [Report] >>96582074 >>96582081
>>96582031
Dude it's an uncommon, relax. It's not going to cost you much. Even if you're talking about that hybrid rakdos one it's still not going to be an expensive rare.
Anonymous No.96582074 [Report]
>>96582045
What? The flip version, anon, obviously. I'm talking about swapping gwenom for him
Anonymous No.96582081 [Report]
>>96582045
Norman is a mythic. It’s going for 15 right now but it WILL drop
Anonymous No.96582096 [Report]
>>96580792
Every single Dark Confidant printing is cool. One of the rare cards where i don't mind any print
Anonymous No.96582133 [Report] >>96582138
>>96581929
They can very easily do 2-3 of those per set.
Anonymous No.96582138 [Report] >>96582335
>>96582133
and yet those only chose to release one.
Anonymous No.96582150 [Report] >>96582163 >>96582170
>>96580965
It must be a fascinating life for people who tie themselves to an IP and become millionaires just talking about it on the internet. What do you do when you hate it? You still have to churn out slop or it's back to your day job

He even complained about that, I think in a Tarkir unboxing. He was bitching that if he doesn't run ads for sponsors he can't afford to run the channel
Anonymous No.96582163 [Report]
>>96582150
>You still have to churn out slop or it's back to your day job
That's the thing with """""influencers""""", turning out slop nonstop day after day is a requirement of the job. You NEED to be pushing trash after trash after trash because it's all about the "engagement"
Anonymous No.96582170 [Report] >>96582201
>>96582150
he's a millionare?
Anonymous No.96582183 [Report] >>96582206
>>96579299
You're just not paying attention to your pips and color leans while building multicolor. If you can't make a functional three color without fetches and duals you need to start thinking more during the build about when you're casting things and if you have enough time to get all those pips by then. You can run three color all-basics decks if you just have the right proportions of them and mulligan correctly.
Anonymous No.96582201 [Report] >>96582248 >>96582309
>>96582170
Almost certainly. Youtube pays like you wouldn't believe.
Here's the estimates on socialblade, bear in mind he's likely at the higher end of the earnings because he's been around so long. And then factor in the fact that sponsor segments are about 10k a pop (Mr Beast discussed this, it's how he was able to do 10k prizes in the early days, although now he gets 100k sponsors).

He may not have $1M in liquidity, especially if he spends like a retard, which it sounds like he does. But yeah, living within his means for say 5 years, he could save to $1-2M very comfortably.
Anonymous No.96582202 [Report]
>>96581070
Knock his teeth out if he just grab my shit without asking permission
Anonymous No.96582206 [Report]
>>96582183
>If you can't make a functional three color without fetches and duals
You don't even need fetches, anymore. Wizards has printed so many cheap duals that budget 3c manabases are very easily done. Filter/check lands are all you really need, nowadays, and if you're in black like Nekusar, the Tainted lands are very good
Anonymous No.96582211 [Report]
>>96579887
there was no commander because the prerelease had too many people, never saw that happen before.
Anonymous No.96582212 [Report] >>96582225 >>96582227
>>96581794
I don't get it
Anonymous No.96582225 [Report]
>>96582212
That guy was born in the year 1988. So he put 88 in his username. A reddit mod saw that and thought it symbolizes "Heil Hitler" as H is the 8th letter of the alphabet and right wingers use 88 as a code sometimes.
Anonymous No.96582227 [Report] >>96582304
>>96582212
Dipshit mods think the 1988 birth year in his username is a Hitler/nazi reference. 14 and/or 88 are very common nazi/white supremacy dog whistles
Anonymous No.96582248 [Report] >>96582299
>>96582201
The channel is not just one guy, there's a whole staff to run it
Anonymous No.96582298 [Report] >>96582306
At my LGS there's a 14th Doctor in the display case and its price tag is $88.
Anonymous No.96582299 [Report]
>>96582248
I know he "employs" 1 troon but I don't know how many other "staff" he has.
In any case, it's absolutely a channel he could be running by himself. I don't know why these people get such disproportionate ideas in their heads about what it is they do.

The Quartering and Pirate Software are two other people who will bring up the fact that they "employ" people whenever the money starts getting short.
Its a poor financial decision. It's completely retarded. You are not a business, you are some asshole talking to a camera and you do not need staff to help you sit on your ass at home.
Anonymous No.96582301 [Report] >>96582338 >>96582383
What's the most chuddy dogwhistle deck one could build?
Anonymous No.96582304 [Report] >>96582321 >>96582325 >>96582328 >>96582340
>>96582227
What the hell is a “dog whistle”
Anonymous No.96582306 [Report]
>>96582298
Pretty funny, but probably a real price
Anonymous No.96582309 [Report]
>>96582201
There's no way MrBeast only gets 100k for a sponsorship, Asmongold gets more for a single sponsored stream and he is magnitudes smaller than Beast
Anonymous No.96582321 [Report] >>96583620
>>96582304
Dog whistles are special whistles on a frequency that humans can't hear, but dogs can. They're used for training and stuff. "Dog whistle" as the term means "a phrase or reference that only those 'in the know' will understand". 1488 is a very real nazi reference, so nazis/white supremacists will pepper in the numbers 14/fourteen and/or 88/eighty eight in their stuff as a "teehee I'm being secretive!!!" note/sign to other nazis
Anonymous No.96582325 [Report] >>96582340
>>96582304
Leftoid term for when they're jumping at shadows.
Dogwhistles are only audible to dogs, so the idea is that the right includes terms and codes to signal to other rightwingers. Here "88" is being mistaken for "1488" which refers to the 14 words, and 88 being the 8th letter of the alphabet for "Heil Hitler"

Of course anything can be a "dogwhistle" to these people, including just not using lefty-approved terminology
Anonymous No.96582328 [Report] >>96582340 >>96582365
>>96582304
It's something people make up so they can latch on something to be offended about and then use that as an excuse to not converse with you. It's basically acting like a little bitch.
Anonymous No.96582335 [Report]
>>96582138
Yes. For the smaller set, where it was possibly not even in the initial 100 cards.
Anonymous No.96582338 [Report] >>96582390
>>96582301
every card with nonwhite hate in the rules text
Anonymous No.96582340 [Report] >>96582354 >>96582365
>>96582304
The best part about dog whistles is when those that actively use them end up panicking about being found out, like these two:
>>96582325
>>96582328
Anonymous No.96582352 [Report]
My LGS knows i'm a fascist and nobody minds, even the local troon knows he shouldn't sperg out about it or he'll just catch annoyed eyerolls from everyone.
Anonymous No.96582354 [Report] >>96582363
>>96582340
way to prove the second guy right lmao
Anonymous No.96582363 [Report]
>>96582354
Case in point.
Anonymous No.96582365 [Report] >>96582372
>>96582328
>and then use that as an excuse to not converse with you.
Or persecute you.
Just look at the shit with Charlie Kirk. Extremely moderate guy, would platform and befriend blacks and gays, literally said conservatives need to accept gays or they will all go to the left- but none of it was enough. People celebrating his murder will just lie about his belief as post-hoc justification to kill him, often using """dogwhistles""" as proof that no matter what he actually said or did he was evil

>>96582340
>not agreeing with my delusions is panicking!!!!!
Ask your doctor to change your anti-anxiety med dosage and explore switching to an anti-psychotic. I am not saying this to insult you, I am serious that an anti-psychotic will is more appropriate for the stress you feel from an imaginary political war
Anonymous No.96582372 [Report] >>96582381 >>96582391
>>96582365
2nd case in point.
>Extremely moderate guy
pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffftthahahahahahahaha
Anonymous No.96582381 [Report] >>96582454
>>96582372
Enjoy the mass graves buddy.
Anonymous No.96582383 [Report] >>96582390
>>96582301
Human tribal maybe? Since for whatever reason leftoids constantly make the case that humans in fantasy are code for white people and other fantasy races are code for other real races eg Orcs
Anonymous No.96582390 [Report] >>96582396 >>96582406 >>96582506
>>96582383
>>96582338
See i was thinking that, but nuwizards makes every other white human card brown and ugly now.
Anonymous No.96582391 [Report] >>96582454
>>96582372
>but none of it was enough. People celebrating his murder will just lie about his belief as post-hoc justification to kill him, often using """dogwhistles""" as proof that no matter what he actually said or did he was evil
Anonymous No.96582396 [Report]
>>96582390
obviously you proxy the browns back into people
Anonymous No.96582404 [Report] >>96582409 >>96582410 >>96582427
So uhh, magic the gathering elder dragon highlander aka "commander", amirite?

How do we feel about this "writer's barely concealed fetish" character?
Anonymous No.96582406 [Report]
>>96582390
It's true, it's true.
I don't know what to tell ya bud. Maybe pic related and keep making jokes about genocide?
Anonymous No.96582409 [Report] >>96582422
>>96582404
No idea why that's a rare. That is a bloated uncommon text box.
Anonymous No.96582410 [Report] >>96582413 >>96582427 >>96582455
>>96582404
What's the fetish here? I really don't see it
Anonymous No.96582413 [Report] >>96582427
>>96582410
Coom hands I guess
Anonymous No.96582416 [Report] >>96582425 >>96582431 >>96582448 >>96582459 >>96582494
How much should "You may play any number of lands from your hand this turn" cost?
Anonymous No.96582419 [Report]
has anyone played on Tabletop Sim? What do I need to do for that?
Anonymous No.96582422 [Report] >>96582506
>>96582409
Creating a token with every creature is pretty good, basically a more fair Edgar Markov
Anonymous No.96582425 [Report]
>>96582416
your firstborn
Anonymous No.96582427 [Report]
>>96582404
It's capeshit and therefore I hate it and will bully you for playing it at my table

>>96582410
>>96582413
Her lore is fetish bait, she has some kind of horny pheromones thing that only affects spider-mans.
Anonymous No.96582431 [Report]
>>96582416
2
Anonymous No.96582448 [Report] >>96582460 >>96582467
>>96582416
Fuck off custom cardfag. Since it's just a "win on the spot" effect on-par with things like Tooth and Nail it should be a 7-8 mana sorcery. It can't be on a creature ever.
Anonymous No.96582454 [Report] >>96582510
>>96582381
>>96582391
Go back to /pol/
Anonymous No.96582455 [Report] >>96582484
>>96582410
>her real name is Cindy Moon
>she's a korean-american halfie
>she was conveniently bitten by the same spider that bit Peter Parker
>after that she spent like a decade inside a bunker overloading in pop culture references and learning to do wizard-level shit and complex shapes with her webs unlike spiderman's basic thwips
>the moment she comes out she finds Peter and they suddenly get the urge to fuck untill exhaustion whenever they are remotely close due to their pheromones overloading
>this was all written by a known yellow-fever writer with a breeding fetish
Card effect doesn't really reflect this beyond maybe the popping out tokens thing being a breeding joke?
Anonymous No.96582459 [Report]
>>96582416
4, 2 if it has some hindrance
Anonymous No.96582460 [Report]
>>96582448
it could totally be on a creature providing it has a mechanic like Myojins have to prevent the ability from working if not cast from hand
Anonymous No.96582467 [Report] >>96582485
>>96582448
>Ramp if you have lands in your hand is an instant win button
I guess Summer Bloom is OP now for having essentially the same text at 2 mana.
Now if it drew you cards and was a static ability on a legendary...
Anonymous No.96582473 [Report] >>96582477 >>96582504 >>96582514
Question, if I exile the top of my library and it was a land and there's an effect saying "you can play the exiled card this turn" but I already played a land from my hand this turn, can I still put it on the field?
Anonymous No.96582477 [Report] >>96582495
>>96582473
no
Anonymous No.96582484 [Report]
>>96582455
Dan Slott's barely-disguised fetish is, surprisingly, still a fun character beyond that, but it's basically an eternal shadow hanging over her character.
Anonymous No.96582485 [Report] >>96582512
>>96582467
It's just an insta-win with any landfall = draw card. In a vacuum it's bad, but you can't price it lower on principle.
Anonymous No.96582494 [Report]
>>96582416
btw the rules text you should give ur custom creature is:

>you can play any number of lands from hand
>exile a land you control: draw a card
>you may not have more than 50 lands in your starting deck


And make it cost 6 mana
Anonymous No.96582495 [Report] >>96582502 >>96582504
>>96582477
Why not? Can you point me to the exact ruling?
Anonymous No.96582502 [Report]
>>96582495
Playing cards from exile is the same way as playing them from anywhere else. The effect only gives you permission to play it from exile. All other restrictions still apply (lands per turn, timing rules, etc.)
Anonymous No.96582504 [Report]
>>96582473
no

>>96582495
>why not
because the one land played per turn thing doesn't apply only to lands played from hand but also lands played from other zones.
Otherwise crucible of worlds would read "play all your lands on turn 3 as long as you have a fetch land in the graveyard"
Anonymous No.96582506 [Report]
>>96582390
Now that I think about it, maybe that's why Wizards doesn't print more tribal hate.
It's a shame though. I've ranted many times before about how I wish they'd print an equivalent to pic related that lets me turn all my opponents creatures into something else so cards like Witch's Vengeance are actually playable.

>>96582422
Eh there's already so many token doublers, it's not really generating you much advantage. Especially in those colors and with that tribe. There aren't many citizen synergies, and you're not playing aristocrats in selesnya.
All it's really doing is putting bodies on the board that you could pump up, but you're in green, you could be making 3/3s and 4/4s with trample if you want tokens.
Anonymous No.96582510 [Report]
>>96582454
>>>/reddit/
Anonymous No.96582512 [Report] >>96582525
>>96582485
There's two cards that do that and they're both 5+ mana.
Anonymous No.96582514 [Report]
>>96582473
No nothing has given you permission to play an ADDITIONAL land this turn
You've already played your 1 land per turn so you CANNOT play the one you exiled.
Cannot always defeats can.
Anonymous No.96582525 [Report] >>96582531
>>96582512
>they're both 5+ mana.
They're also both in the best colors for ramping, drawing, and cheating out creatures. 5+ mana means nothing at all.
Anonymous No.96582531 [Report] >>96582535
>>96582525
i wanna fuck and get eaten by that lizard man in that order
Anonymous No.96582535 [Report]
>>96582531
Get in line.
Anonymous No.96582586 [Report] >>96582618 >>96582632 >>96582634 >>96582657 >>96582821
So I'm somewhat new, and I know the "usual" ways to win like
>just hit them bro
>mill them out
>poison counters
>thoracle
Is there any other "weird" ways to win? I like the idea of goofy gimmick decks.
Anonymous No.96582618 [Report]
>>96582586
Game lock + determinate ability to not draw out before opponents do.
Anonymous No.96582632 [Report]
>>96582586
An unusual way of getting there is more relevant.
Ultimately every deck wins by making opponents lose (via loss of life, drawing from an empty deck, "loses the game" effects including poison counters) or by a card that just says "you win the game"
Anonymous No.96582634 [Report]
>>96582586
mill YOURSELF out in combination with laboratory maniac or jace wielder of mysteries
play approach of the second sun twice
hit your opponents with lose the game creatures like Atemsis, All-Seeing or Phage the Untouchable

basically just go on scryfall and search "lose the game" or "win the game", lots of wacky wincons have been printed over the years
Anonymous No.96582657 [Report]
>>96582586
Scryfall
>o:"you win the game" -o:can't f:commander
https://scryfall.com/search?q=o%3A%22you+win+the+game%22+-o%3Acan%27t+f%3Acommander

There you go bud.
Anonymous No.96582689 [Report] >>96582701
I had my first game of MTG yesterday. I told my buddy to play his most powerful deck (Slivers) just to see how far the power difference is and I actually won by picrel.
I had just 2hp left.
Anonymous No.96582701 [Report] >>96582712 >>96582898
>>96582689
Happy for you, but his deck either bricked or isn't nearly as powerful as he thinks it is.
Your wincon is extremely telegraphed and some basic removal would have stopped it dead
Anonymous No.96582712 [Report] >>96582756
>>96582701
there's not THAT much enchantment removal in most decks, plus he's in blue so he can protect it quite easily
Anonymous No.96582756 [Report] >>96582764
>>96582712
>there's not THAT much enchantment removal in most decks
Slivers is a 5 color deck or nothing. Disenchant, Generous Gift, Stroke of Midnight, Grasp of Fate, Unexpectedly Absent, Feed the Swarm, Withering Torment, Nature's Claim, Krosan Grip, literally any blue bounce spell.
Hell, an overloaded Vandalblast would have bought a bunch of turns.

A high power Sliver deck should not be losing to Mechanized Production, there really isn't anything more to say on that
Anonymous No.96582764 [Report] >>96582770 >>96582840
>>96582756
they have a lot of OPTIONS but you're not running 10 enchantment removal spells
Anonymous No.96582770 [Report]
>>96582764
>you're not running 10 enchantment removal spells
I specifically listed cards that hit more than enchantments, that was the entire point. 4 of them were "nonland permanent" and all the rest hit either artifacts/enchantments or creatures/enchantments
Anonymous No.96582794 [Report]
>>96581070
cut a land
Anonymous No.96582801 [Report]
>>96580965
money
Anonymous No.96582814 [Report] >>96582824 >>96582832
Spider-man fucking sucks AND Fleem is lame and gay.
Anonymous No.96582821 [Report]
>>96582586
play hard locks and force everyone to deck out
Anonymous No.96582824 [Report] >>96582893
>>96582814
If Fleem gets WotC to print Omen Paths in paper, it's more than worth it
Anonymous No.96582832 [Report] >>96582848 >>96582851 >>96583337
>>96582814
Even my LGS owner was talking about how it seems Spiderman is flopping and how it looks like a lot of shops will be left with a lot of unsold inventory.
Anonymous No.96582840 [Report]
>>96582764
Because Mechanized Production is an aura, hitting the artifact it's enchanting is just as good as hitting the enchantment, by the way
Anonymous No.96582848 [Report] >>96582871 >>96582875
>>96582832
Do stores ever put unsold inventory on sale to move it, or does WPTC forbid that?
Anonymous No.96582851 [Report]
>>96582832
Good, I hope so. Every retard who gambles needs to suffer heavy losses so they learn not to be so fucking stupid.
Investorfags, LGS, everyone who looked at Final Fantasy and thought "oh boy if I dump money into UB I'll be rich!!!!!"
Anonymous No.96582871 [Report]
>>96582848
Yeah stores can do whatever they want. LGSes sometimes put stale product on sale below MSRP if they need to clear inventory. I occasionally see less desirable recent precons at $30. Pic related is actually a really strong deck with good reprints, but people just don't really like it for various reasons.
Anonymous No.96582875 [Report]
>>96582848
>Do stores ever put unsold inventory on sale to move it
Eventually but not for a long time, and by then most of the good shit is gone. And even then, not much of a discount.
I remember Murder at Karlov Manor went down by something like a buck fifty or two bucks 6 months after it released or something.
Anonymous No.96582893 [Report] >>96582913
>>96582824
Best you'll get is a single mythic in a mystery booster.
Anonymous No.96582898 [Report] >>96582921
>>96582701
My commander is picrel. I already had seven clues when I played Mechanized Production. So he only had one turn to stop me, and he already used two artifact removals and one enchantment removal earlier. I think I got super lucky. He stopped attacking me after like turn five because he saw it would just generate lots of stuff.
Anonymous No.96582911 [Report] >>96582924
Is Halo worse than Fentanyl?
Anonymous No.96582913 [Report]
>>96582893
Nah. WotC did not anticipate Omen Paths being so popular. Once they're clear of their contractual obligations to Disney, paper print is on the table
Anonymous No.96582921 [Report] >>96582948 >>96582951
>>96582898
Anonymous No.96582924 [Report] >>96582936
>>96582911
Fentanyl can make you an immortalized national hero so yeah.
Anonymous No.96582936 [Report]
>>96582924
Has any minor character in Magic ever been killed by a projectile?
Anonymous No.96582948 [Report] >>96582957 >>96582961 >>96582997
>>96582921
Yeah he has that one, but didn't draw it. He was waiting for this or one with flying, or more lands to get out overlord (which he drew from the start) but I was quick enough for him to never have all five colors of Mana. One more turn and I would have been dead for sure. I think I won on turn nine. We both struggled with Mana until turn three when I finally got my draw card whenever stuff dies going. By combining picrel with reassembling skeleton.
Anonymous No.96582951 [Report] >>96582961 >>96582973
>>96582921
>Overlord as commander
>you can freely tutor stuff like shifting, hivelord, crystalline, etc
I am convinced that guy's sliver deck was total ass.
Anonymous No.96582957 [Report] >>96582961 >>96582973
>>96582948
>to get out overlord (which he drew from the start)
Your friend is a retard. Overlord should ALWAYS be your commander, since he can get any other sliver out to answer the issue at hand.
Anonymous No.96582961 [Report] >>96582973
>>96582948
>>96582951
>>96582957
Yeah what they said. Your friend's sliver deck basically isn't nearly as powerful as he thinks it is.
Anonymous No.96582973 [Report] >>96582985 >>96582987
>>96582951
>>96582957
>>96582961
Kay. Guess I'll let him know. He used SLiver Queen as a commander. But I don't think it would have mattered in this case, right? He never had the mana for either anyways.
Anonymous No.96582985 [Report]
>>96582973
Queen is a $300 paperweight most of the time. Thrumming Hivepool does her job infinitely better, and you'd only need her to make suicide Slivers if you didn't have Slivers that bypass blocking (e.g. flying, trample, flanking, etc). Queen is only expensive because no reprints.
Anonymous No.96582987 [Report] >>96583037
>>96582973
If he's struggling for mana, it's not a high power deck, just how it goes. Powerful decks are consistent.
How much did he spend/proxy on his lands?
Anonymous No.96582997 [Report] >>96583037
>>96582948
>turn 9
>doesnt have access to all 5 colors
Whew
>gay proxy
Oh its just a larp post so he can post his boring bloodborne customs
Anonymous No.96583037 [Report] >>96583070
>>96582997
>>96582987
He doesn't proxy. It was a legit (and appearently expensive, as I am finding out) card. It was in Portuguese however, since he's from Brazil. He showed me translations of cards as we went along. I think that's fair if he allows me to play a "gay" proxy. I have no clue what constututes for sufficient mana in such a deck but I think he had plenty. We just both kinda flunked and I had better options of getting out of it through drawing cards.
Anonymous No.96583070 [Report]
>>96583037
If you're playing a WUBRG deck, a full set of triomes, fetches, shock lands, bond lands (for 4 player pods), etc are expected some you can manage your mana accordingly.
Anonymous No.96583170 [Report] >>96583240 >>96583266 >>96583276 >>96583302 >>96583350 >>96583573 >>96583636
Any commanders that just underperform/can't make work no matter how hard you try? For me it's this bitch.

>deal-making/politics is a total meme relying on your opponents to do something/not do something is a complete coinflip and they WILL do anything they can to screw you over/take bigger advantage of the situation
>giving your opponents a fuckton of free mana is always a potentially (most of the time) game-losing play.
>Does literally nothing if people just horde their treasures
>if you try to play cards that punish opponents for hording treasures they just tap sac in response and you get literally nothing cause they specifically have to spend treasure mana on spells for Variz to do anything
>if they DO actually use their treasures they'll either end the game or get so far ahead you may as well lost, or they spend as many treasures as possible on one spell so all you get is 1(one) card draw
>if Variz dies congratulations your opponents have a fuckton of extra mana they can use freely without punishment
>playing stax/MLD to force treasure use makes you a huge asshole
Anonymous No.96583240 [Report]
>>96583170
This dame is for getting people who crap out on their mana draw back into the game, artifact ETB triggers, and also X cost spells. She's not really a politics commander despite her looks.
Anonymous No.96583266 [Report]
>>96583170
Yes, Vazi is a bad card, any further questions?
Anonymous No.96583276 [Report] >>96583381
>>96583170
>>deal-making/politics is a total meme relying on your opponents to do something/not do something is a complete coinflip and they WILL do anything they can to screw you over/take bigger advantage of the situation
I mean, you nailed it first line here.

Politics is a massively over-hyped aspect of the game and only exists at tables with players who don't know what they're doing. Any other table, there is no bargain people can make that justifies not making the optimal play for the situation. In a situation where it's arbitrary then the play is just to victimize whoever is least likely to be able to retaliate.

As for the card, if it made it so lands had
>This land does not untap during your untap step
>(1) : Untap this land
It would be significantly better at doing what it wants to do.
As it is, it's just gonna get people to their wincons faster and the +1/+1s won't matter
Anonymous No.96583302 [Report] >>96583336
>>96583170
Politicking and aikido and group hug decks are the biggest reddit memes and always backfire on the user unless you're playing with literal retards.
Anonymous No.96583336 [Report]
>>96583302
heliod the radiant dawn is good tho
Anonymous No.96583337 [Report]
>>96582832
Good. I didn't go but prerelease at my LGS had only 6 people according to the store discord, usually it gets atleast 20-30 at prerelease and FF had 50. Fuck all the idiots in this thread who claimed Spooderman was a more popular IP than FF. This set needs to flop harder than march of the machines so WotC pivots and stops giving us more lame capeshit UBs. Disney and the MCU killed all interest in the Marvel capeslop IP. The comics don't sell, no one sees the movies, stop giving us capeslop no one wants besides boomer MaRo and his reddit buddies.
Anonymous No.96583350 [Report] >>96583361 >>96583407 >>96583530
>>96583170
People were so extremely desperate for a non-combat Boros commander they gaslit themselves (me included) into thinking Nelly Borcha is a good commander. She isn't by the way.

She's obviously meant to pilot a goad deck (which is already an underpowered archetype that collects second place at best) but does it in the worst possible way. Why in the actual FUCK does this card let your opponents draw a card also? At best she's card neutral but it's actually worse than card neutral cause chances are the player with the biggest creatures you want to suspect/goad are already the furthest ahead and you're giving them more stuff. THEY ARE GOADED NO POLITICS REQUIRED THEY ALREADY CAN'T TOUCH YOU WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY BEING COMPENSATED WITH CARD DRAW?????

Also she's 4 mana for some reason with an attack trigger on a mediocre body that will die attacking into most players midgame.
Anonymous No.96583361 [Report]
>>96583350
>Impulsive Accuser
Lol she's literally a woke Karen
Anonymous No.96583381 [Report]
>>96583276
>Politics is a massively over-hyped aspect of the game
Politics are good to at least help convince players not to do something utterly retarded or steer them in the direction of the actual arch enemy. It's concerning how often players don't touch the Izzet storm player with several cost reducers in play cause "they didn't do anything yet" or tell people we should probably murder the guy who just tutored for Craterhoof last turn.
Anonymous No.96583407 [Report]
>>96583350
>non-combat Boros commander
Ignore the "can't block" thing on this one, just play activated abilities. I would suggest Soulbright Flamekin
>{1}{R}
>{2}: Target creature gains trample until end of turn. If this is the third time this ability has resolved this turn, you may add {R}{R}{R}{R}{R}{R}{R}{R}.
You can make 8 red mana literally for free, cast whatever the fuck you want
Anonymous No.96583530 [Report] >>96583533
>>96583350
I played this and completely missed that when you attack you make a creature unable to block.
Anonymous No.96583533 [Report] >>96583538
>>96583530
reading the card explains the card
Anonymous No.96583538 [Report]
>>96583533
I know what it does but I didn't play around it correctly.
Anonymous No.96583539 [Report]
>>96578096
If you run a low enough land count, then you can use it to stack your entire library in whatever order you want by spending a draw and failing to find a land. I use it in pic related since a little power boosting and a Traverse the Outlands empties them all out. Grothama wants as many manadorks as possible for the vigor synergy or just card draw in general, so I only run about 28 total.
Anonymous No.96583573 [Report]
>>96583170
> thanks for the free treasures
> anyways I tap a mountain and lightning bolt your commander
Anonymous No.96583620 [Report]
>>96582321
Ah ok. I heard the same nonsense when I was a kid about a band that just had a 1 hit wonder: 311, 3 11s =/= k k k. All silly nonsense looking for spice where there is none to be found in their normally plain lives. Too many rage bait responses generated but I’ll respond to you I guess. Thanks for explaining the term dog whistle.

Anyway. Magic the gathering. I opened a Tezzeret cruel captain (not full art sad) and have been really impressed by him. I don’t often buy packs of magic either.
Anonymous No.96583636 [Report]
>>96583170
is goad / politics / group hug
- try hard trash ?
- a trap not the juicy kind
here is a sweet jund lady
Anonymous No.96583646 [Report]
>>96581688
Thanks, anon. As for cheaper options, there definitely is stuff like Evolving Wilds etc, plus the SNC cycle of lands that sac themselves on ETB. Obviously not as good as the Fetch lands, however better in the deck than running duals that aren't a type of basic.
Anonymous No.96583724 [Report] >>96583783 >>96583810
How would you build Jeska forma Jund, with Worldfire as a wincon?
Anonymous No.96583728 [Report] >>96583815 >>96583876
The fifty dollar bulkslop krenko deck I gifted my newb friend wiped the floor against my friend’s $400+ Atla Palani tier 4
Anonymous No.96583783 [Report]
>>96583724
same way i build all my decks
- balance all the colours
- no $$$ tutors
- bracket 3 at the most
- no infinite combo's
- enough interaction to blow out a tryhard
Anonymous No.96583810 [Report]
>>96583724
jund good stuff with some bad cards in the mix
Anonymous No.96583815 [Report]
>>96583728
does the 400% deck not run a single removal spell?
Anonymous No.96583876 [Report]
>>96583728
Krenko? Bulkslop?? I guess which krenko. I built my first commander deck around a foil Krenko Mob Boss that came in a M13 starter deck. He’s inevitability. No matter what they will eventually run out of wrath of gods and cyclonic rifts and you’ll kill everyone with your goblin army.
Anonymous No.96583973 [Report] >>96583986
I WANT A COMMANDER THEMED AROUND PAINTING OR ART THAT DOESN'T FUCKING SUCK
WHY HASN'T WIZARDS PRINTED ONE?
Anonymous No.96583986 [Report] >>96584151
>>96583973
>imfuckingplying Anhelo is bad
Anonymous No.96584037 [Report] >>96584074 >>96584079 >>96584162 >>96584224
Anything I should change about this deck?
Posted it for like the third time I know. Commander night coming up soon though.
https://archidekt.com/decks/15922325/i_suck_at_deck_building
Anonymous No.96584071 [Report] >>96584157
>Find cool new commander
>Only strategy I find fun with it is some form of Voltron
>Already have 3 Voltron decks

Can you blame me when I want the featured card of my deck to be the most prominent force in my deck? I've been trying to build a Zilortha/Godzilla voltron deck for the past year and still don't feel like it does well and it's worse knowing I'm better off just making it a pile of big creatures instead of making Godzilla be the thing actually killing my opponents...
Anonymous No.96584074 [Report]
>>96584037
post it in moxfield and i will look at it.
but
i am the worse at mtg.
Anonymous No.96584079 [Report] >>96584089
>>96584037
I feel like maybe you don't actually have all that many activated abilities in your activated ability doubling deck
Anonymous No.96584089 [Report] >>96584155
>>96584079
I noticed this too, which is why I'm asking for help.
Anonymous No.96584103 [Report] >>96584209
What are some W, R and WR creatures that have flying and vigilance? I want to replace the following in my Gisela deck...

>Geist-Honored Monk
>Moltensteel Dragon
>Baneslayer Angel
>Academy Rector
Anonymous No.96584151 [Report]
>>96583986
He's nothing to do with painting. It's just
>kill thing, copy spell
And once per turn too lmao, what, is this fucking white?
Anonymous No.96584155 [Report]
>>96584089
I mean, what are you looking for in particular?

Deckbuilding is mostly about deciding how many cards you want to assign to your deck's themes, and ensuring you have enough interaction, ramp and draw to play those themes. How many interaction pieces do you want to run? How much ramp, how much draw? How many pieces of these kinds can you get that synergise with your commander, and does this synergy result in a better rate than staples in those categories? If the answers to these questions don't match the cards in your deck, those are the first changes you should make.

To me it looks like you have a lot of cards tied up in death-trigger related effects, but your commander works off activated abilities. I'd cut some of the former and add more of the latter.
Anonymous No.96584157 [Report]
>>96584071
>>Find cool new commander
What was it? If you say it's a Universes Beyond card, I'm legally allowed to castrate you
Anonymous No.96584162 [Report]
>>96584037
I'd move wayfarer's bauble into the deck from maybe
al bhed salvagers from FF is another susurian voidborn/psychomancer, and reckless fireweaver is like weftstalker ardent
I think this really wants the classic precon includes of ophiomancer and viscera seer, also umbral collar zealot if you have one.
you got a mishra's bauble anywhere? maybe even a mindstone?

have you fishbowled this much? I'm not sure uthros psionicist is doing that much for you
you have a distinct lack of indestructible artifacts to put phylactery counters on, and in fact you sure seem to like sacrificing artifacts
also remove golem heart
is necrosquito your only furnace skullbomb target? I'd replace it with aether, nihil, or pyrite spellbomb. nihil specifically helps by also being graveyard hate.
Anonymous No.96584200 [Report]
Welp after completing like 4 different lists and ordering a bunch of cards (many of which havent arrived) this is what Im setting on for tonight.
Anonymous No.96584209 [Report]
>>96584103
>What are some W, R and WR creatures that have flying and vigilance?
Learn to use scryfall
>id<=rw t:creature (o:vigilance AND o:flying) f:commander
https://scryfall.com/search?q=id%3C%3Drw+t%3Acreature+%28o%3Avigilance+AND+o%3Aflying%29+f%3Acommander&unique=cards&as=grid&order=color
Anonymous No.96584224 [Report]
>>96584037
Only 29 lands is crazy.
You have only 9 activated artifact abilities, and like 4 of them specify themselves for sacrifice. You also only have like 4 activated abilities on creatures. Its a scattershot of abilities and most are underwhelming. Gisa's basically your one repeatable threat.
Get yourself at least a Viscera Seer for that sweet scry.
Anonymous No.96584387 [Report]
>>96580965
The reason a jew does anything, for the shekels

>2 and a half minute ad for Whatnot