Thread 96793070

Renaissance of Man edition

>Resources:
WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwh
WM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgeba
WFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6
Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H

>TOW:
https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXS
https://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/

>Warhammer Chronicles:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip
>Time of Legends:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip
>The End Times:
https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip

>Alternative Models:
https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL

>Previous Thread:
>>96779065

>TQ:
Which armies are you hoping to see featured in the next Arcane Journal? What lists would you like to see from them?

Orcs and Wood Elves. Orcs because I play them and Wood Elves because they desperately need help.

>>96793070 (OP)
>tq
I'm sure we won't see this because of Renegade Crowns, but I'd love to see an Empire AoI with a religious bend to them.

Thanquol soon friends!!!

>>96793070 (OP)
>TQ
another 10000 years of tomb kings

FUUUUUUCK do I miss the old art.

>>96793070 (OP)
Dogs of war as an actual army, not only as mercenaries. Estalia, tilea, border princes, and Araby as sub factions.

What are you working on? I will finish assembling night gobbos tonight and am basing tomorrow. Anyone have good ideas for ways to simulate mushrooms on the bases?

>>96793657
Mushrooms are relatively easy to sculpt

Take a piece of wire or paperclip, and push it through a blob of greenstuff, then just use your fingers/ a chisel shape sculpting tool to flatten down the sides into a cone shape

>>96793657
Alternatively you could try etsy or Epic Basing for 3d printed one (or files if you already own a printer),

>>96793070 (OP)

I cant wait to play my ogres again. Fuck that tranny AoS shit. Hurry up and renew your bullshit so the ogres come back to the good game.

>>96793748
>>96793752
I think this maybe might be time to learn to use greenstuff then.

>>96793774
I feel you, my second army as a kid was ogres. I stupidly sold it off when they killed the game and I quit the hobby altogether. Big mistake.

>>96793774
Yeah, fuck Age of Zzzigmar, paradise for casuals and fags

Man the mounts for ogres are too ugly for me to ever consider them, no matter how easy they are to paint. Its not even an intended effect kind of ugly, the mourn fangs are so weirdly proportioned that its just a plain oddity, and the stone horn has a bunch of detail issues that annoy me to great end. Its both too cartoony and taking itself too seriously.
At least the concept of man eaters are cool though.

It's very interesting that, per Old World Rankings, legacy armies make up about 20% of tournament attendance. GW really shot themselves in the foot by only officially supporting 9 armies. Now obviously these players already had models or were willing and able to source them independently, so it's not like they would necessarily have bought models from GW, but it's still interesting to note that GW screwed over one fifth of their playerbase.

>>96793909
The number has dropped since OWR launched too. No journal support makes non vamps hard to play ina cathay meta so people drop from the scene.

I love my Beastmen (i hope they get new minis), and i love trolling aos players in their threads haha (specially because they stole my chorfs)

>>96793774
>>96793881
>>96793950
Were you molested by your AoS playing uncle growing up?

is the rpg any fun to run solo?

>>96793909
Yes, i saw that too.

>>96794007
Why? Are you going to defend them? Pffft

>>96793950
Are you trying to impersonate me?

>>96794007
I was kind of hoping that when TOW dropped and got people playing that this thread would stop being "Complain About AoS General" but I see that hope was in vain

>>96794097
complaints is how gw keeps its customers engaged

>>96794097
It is. As you can see by going through the last 100+ threads, AoS isn’t mentioned here. There seems to be raiders coming in from /aosg/ now false flagging. No one here cares about discussing AoS more than any other unrelated property.

>>96793070 (OP)
Had a 1500p game this weekend, my Beastmen vs a combined 750 of empire and dwarfs.
We played a pitched battle, but added a little narrative that the beastmen were attacking a dwarf mine, so like in ages past the people of Sigmar and the Dawi stood united against the forces of evil.
The game was fun, but a series of bad rolls on my end and a very lucky long charge from the dwarfs murdered my gor brick, which caused a snowball’s effect to me losing the game. It was fun though, and the mine will still be standing, safe from the despoiling clutches of my Beastlord, at least for now.

I didn’t take many pictures and this the best one I had, it’s just of one side of the battlefield just before we kicked off the game.
We played around with the terrain to create a fun set piece of more hills and buildings on the empire/dwarf side and more forests on my side to simulate the treeline at the edge of the settlement/mine.

Have you had any games this week Anons?

>>96793657
If you want an easy solution then look in the mushrooms from Greenstuff World, I’ve been using their regular ones (along with ferns) on the bases for my Beastmen. But there are my chunkier and magical ones available
>https://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/396-plants-and-vegetation

>>96794121
Damn, that battle looks good. Sadly my friend wasnt free this weekend to play.

>>96794007
No, but they dont deserve sympathy, neither GW. They killed our game and tried to sell us that casual bullshit, and now, NOW they revive it (at least is something)

>>96794248
>there are my chunkier
There are some*

>>96794250
It was a fun battle, a highlight was the ghorgon causing the great swords to flee twice during the game due to its terror rule. The second time they fled they ran off the board.

>>96794079
And who are you?

We some kinda....mooicide squad?

>>96794248
You're a great help, thank you anon. They look really good btw.

>>96794269
kek

>>96794104
>AoS isn’t mentioned here
>No one here cares about discussing AoS

Come on, anon. Dont lie.

>>96794334
Feel free to browse the threads, they are chained together so you can go extremely far back

>>96794097
ToW is not Warhammer Fantasy Battle. So the status quo of AoS killed WHFB hasn't changed. Instead you get a retconned campaign setting where GW gets to shit on WHFB character like Malakai Makaison like they did with the AoS "children's birthday party stopgap rules" in the beginning.

It's probably healthier to just move on, but people that have spent decades building collections and throwing money at the company are gonna be pissed of either way.

>>96794007
>>96794097
>NOOOOOOOO stop making fun of my diverse wholesome chungus obese black tranny sidecut Marvel WoW game!

Oh yeah, the AoS guys are raiding. What's got their estradiol levels up so high?

>>96794342
It's painfully obvious you're a butthurt AoStranny shill, please try harder next time. YWNBAW btw

Old grognards who cant accept change and let things go are poisoning our community and making other games hate us.

>>96794364
>It's the current year, chud. Your HRE landsknechts are obese black women with dreadlocks now
Eat shit + kys + YWNBAW

>>96793657
>Anyone have good ideas for ways to simulate mushrooms on the bases?
I got some small brass pins for upholstery and smaller nails. You can either put them in the base as is, for small mushrooms or sculpt a cap on the head of the nail with putty. For larger shrooms I just took a wholepunch and made some circles from plastic card, slid those onto the pins and then sculpted a cap over that. Sculpting is a fancy way of saying "put a blob of GS on it and smudged it with a wet finger".

That's the most cost efficient and sturdy solution I could think of.

Looks like the AoS and TOW discord server trolls are busy this night, uh? raiding both threads.

>>96794361
calling AoS dumb with children's birthday party rules is shilling for it? Wow. Big brain activity over there.

>>96794339
People sperg out about aos unprompted all the time here anon, let's be real. There was a guy ranting about how it makes no sense for aos to have skeletons or something.
>>96794374
You'd think people would have better things to do on a monday morning but maybe I expect too much of this board in regards to responsibilities and yknow jobs.

>>96794379
That was me, I was making the point that AoS has no ancient history with 7000 year old Chaos Warrior barrows or massive human vs human battlefields to plunder, so it makes little sense where their "Vampyre Bludsöckerz" or whatever faggot copyrightable name they use are getting all these human bodies, especially the skeletal ones in ancient armor and not fresh zombies. Maybe Nagash brought loads of bodies from Mallus, I'd buy that.

>>96794364
>our community
>us
This is Mossad level subversion from some Discord freak. No one wants to play your shitty ass tranny game, fuck off.

Started painting miniatures with high elves, though lizardmen are much more fun to assemble and paint.

>does Nurgle better than Nurgle
Huh...

>>96794430
You retard grognard, no one is making you play aos, but can you stop being a fucking asshole and spam how much you hate their female chorfs and bullshit like that? get real problems. You make us look bad.

>>96794448
Yet Nurgle still prefers human followers...curious

>>96794454
Can you take your estrogen rotted brain back to your containment thread.

>>96793909
>playerbase
see, that's the key here
they don't care about 'playerbase', they want buyers, fomo ones even. they don't really care if they play as long as they spend, and those two things are more separated than ever

>>96794447
>paint eyes, gums and theeth neatly
>nice bases
>spillover
>moldlines everywhere
why are you like this?

>>96794447
They look great! I wish they still sold the old saurus kits. I don't like the proportions on the new ones.

>>96794476
You're right, I didn't think/know about polishing up the assembeled model before painting it. Starting work on my saurus cavalry, and I'm trying to remove as many mold lines and other imperfections as possible prior to painting the model.

>>96794485
I agree, I strongly prrefere the old models as they seem more rugged and brutish. Though fishing for kits on ebay and such is quite the hassle.

>>96793621
>Estalia
They have NOTHING to build a cool army on! They're only known for getting owned by Araby and the Empire and Bretonnia showing up to finish the fight for them.

>>96794493
this is the way
may i also suggest a darker wash on the brass and the spears?

>>96794408
Why wouldn't there be massive human vs human battlefields
Why would they require specifically human vs human battlefields
Why do you think aos has no ancient history
Why would you feel so strongly about the logistics of a world you clearly lack the knowledge of to make statements like that

>>96794575
>logistics of a world
It's all wishy washy bullshit without any permanence of sense of place. It's the ideal corporate setting. Now please leave or stop talking about aos.

How would your dudes rescue or place under new management this peasant girl that has been taken captive by the foul Beastmen?

>>96794603
The gobbos would probably stick her good (with knives NOT sexually)

>>96794593
It might be but on this specific issue your retarded stance is plain wrong

>>96794613
Presuming they can defeat or chase off the beastmen, pretty dedicated gobbos all to stick a humie lass with da sharp fings

>>96794647
Nah, they'd do it out of their innate desire to be cruel to the beastmen and the woman would just be caught in the crossfire.

Who has a worse fate? Beasts of Chaos's prisoner or Goblins's prisoner?

>>96794408
>I was making the point that AoS has no ancient history with 7000 year
So you were making a flase point based on your compleat lack of knowladge about the topic you spereg on about for half a thread?
This is the quality of posts we need here

Because all terrain except the hills I brought where in use, my opponent flipped a woven box thing upside-down and used it as a tower, resulting in the most fun game of OW I've ever played.
>Easy to set up; needed terrain is minimal
>Can easily place the occupying unit on top of the box
>Extremely easy to tell who has cover, who can draw LoS, etc., resulting in a quicker game
>Resulted in a meta game of peaking around the corners to get off/bait charges, shoot, etc. rather than just rushing/shooting at the nearest unit
>Unable to blast your opponent's army off the table turn 1; similarly, turn-one charges are also near impossible
Any obvious flaws I'm not seeing here? We only played 1 casual game where we intentionally took non-competitive lists, and I don't know if it would hinder any armies in particular, but I'm considering running box-based events if there's not any glaring flaw I'm missing.

>>96794662
Depends on if you're captured by gors/bestigor or ungor. Ungor are extremely cruel due to how they are treated by the Gor. They are like Japanese soldiers in WWII.

>>96794667
HEY this is /wfg/

>>96794603
They would try their best

>>96794575
>Why wouldn't there be massive human vs human battlefields
Mortal non-Chaos humans are all on the same team under the same god.
>Why would they require specifically human vs human battlefields
Only human vs human battles would result in mass graves of human bodies to reanimate, otherwise the bodies would be eaten or sacrificed to Chaos.
>Why do you think aos has no ancient history
It doesn't. There are no 7000 year old ancient Chaos Warrior and Unberogen cairns to loot in AoS, only trannies with neon blue sidecut hair flying around in Korean MMO armor. Oh, and black African men who somehow ended up as archangels in the German HRE afterlife.

Don’t feed the trolls

>>96794675
>ywn be a beastlords most treasured trophy wife

>>96793621
https://ufile.io/hzllkadk My conversion to Old World of the Dogs of War army list in case anyone wants it.

>>96794721
>mortal non-chaos humans are all on the same team under the same god
They're not and never have been
>otherwise the bodies would be eaten or sacrificied to chaos
Why would chaos barbarians "sacrifice" a corpse? Either way, there's plenty of non-human non-chaos non-devouring factions to fight. Nevermind however many years of pre-chaos interhuman chonflict.
>it doesn't have ancient history
But it does?
>oh and black african men who somehow ended up in the german hre afterlife
Judging from whfb it seems there was already a diverse and vibrant immigrant community present in the empire well before the endtimes
(Also aos isn't the afterlife retard)

>>96794603
10/10, would liberate

>>96794770
do you think a tomb king would be honoured or pissed off at seeing a light wizard

>>96794742
Beastlord and Yeastlordess. A beautiful story.

>>96794770
>Judging from whfb it seems there was already a diverse and vibrant immigrant community present in the empire well before the endtimes
maybe once blackrock and vanguard bought GW stocks. This was never a thing before and it is a weird artificial fabrication.

So are the 500 point warband rules in the new AJ any different to the rules posted in that one scenario on the warcom site?

>>96794770
>diverse and vibrant immigrant community present in the empire
Unironically this has always been the case but only in some places and under very specific circumstances, and they did not assimilate into the Empire and were segregated into designated ghettos (for American retards: a ghetto is not necessarily the impoverished black shithole you're imagining) within major trade hubs like Marienburg.
TLDR fuck no there were not black African Empire soldiers, but maybe one or two from wealthy immigrant merchant families became Othello or Alexander Pushkin-esque respected burghers or maybe even minor nobles in very isolated and exceptional incidents.

>>96795040
>Arabtown right next to Knife Alley
Kek, James actually used to have balls

>>96794981
Yes.

>>96795040
It's also important to note, again, this only happened in these large trade hubs like Marienburg and Altdorf. No fucking chance is a black African man to be found on the River Stir or some isolated shepherding town in Parravon.

>>96794873
bemused, maybe or a bit cringe, same way Japanese think of weebs

>>96795082
Now I want to see a Davido-kun level 4 Light Wizard have an audience with Settra

>>96794712
oh no no no no no

>>96795108
Lol cathair. Didn't see that.

>>96795082
>Em hotep fellow nehekharans, I actually have 100% pure khemrian blood

>>96795066
I'll wait for the dump then.

>>96795108
>when your dad is bald and the remaining hair is cut short, but that one hair in the middle never gets the clippers for some reason.

>Go to OW event at LGS
>Usually pretty popular, but this time there are two 20-somethings who agreed to play together beforehand, and 3 40-50 something Fantasy veterans
>Get our armies out
>Sit down with them, talk about life, GW, Old World rules
>Suggest playing a 2v2 match, or splitting off into 2 games then switching
>"Good idea, we should start playing soon"
>Continue talking, make no move towards the tables
>After an hour get up to piss
>Come back and find one guy has carried his army to the table to play with me
>Play a 1.5 hour game
>Finish, tell the guy I'm down for another one, says he only wants to play 1 game.
>Go to the other two, tell them I'm good for one more
>"Great, let's do it"
>They continue talking
>Eventually leave the store without playing a single game
wat

>>96795226
third spaces socialising I guess
Did they at least have armies?

>>96795238
They did, immediately in front of them, as they continued talking. Primarily about the rules of the game we were presumably there to play

>>96795226
Some people are so autistic this is literally their only form of social interaction.

Theres a guy at my locals who is chris chan tier but without the awkward sex pest angle who stands there in a rain mack indoors and he will loom over tables. Stand there people watching and drinking a pepsi until it reaches the bottom of the label specifically and only seems to want to play anything when the ten year olds come in on sundays for little kids league pokemon.

I dont think hes a pedophile i think hes genuinely like 35 with a childs mind and this is the only place he can sort of exist and talk to people and be given the time of day.

Then you got the greybeards who just want a gentlemens club for slobs and i'm sure many here can relate.

>>96795226
>>96795244
Maybe something came up, or they thought you were fat and gay but didn't want to be rude

>>96795238
>>96795277
Probably right, I think the socializing is probably the main draw for them, while I'm trying to maximize games and the socializing is secondary
>>96795280
I was easily the fittest person there and am only sort of gay. Nothing came up though, they stayed until I left 2 hours before close

>>96795226
i mean i have had this happen with lifetime friends, we hang out for some boardgames and end up just talking over food, drinks and tv all day
nothing wrong/weird with that but i understand being bummed out if you just wanted a few games

some people also need a nudge to get out of the zone
try to get the initiative politely to get them moving like
>okay, lets roll who deploys first
>i'm going to start placing the terrain, do you have your models ready?

>>96793070 (OP)
>TQ
My theory is the next core faction focused arcane journals will be focused around the other two narratives currently unexplored out of the four going on right now.

There’s the greenskin outbreak in Bretonnia, which will likely festure those two factions and maybe Dwarfs.

Then the rebirth of Morghur, which would be Beastmen vs Wood Elves.

I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a random journal not really focused on factions at least like we’ve seen. Maybe a siege journal released alongside the classic castle walls, or a narrative sandbox campaign journal.

The next big narrative event is Kislev besieged by Beastmen and Warriors of Chaos at the same time, Cathay will rush to their aid and be too late only for a wandering Ogre Tribe to show up and aid them because beastmen are great deep fried.

This came to me within a dream.

>>96795455
What are high elves even doing atm? They're kind of the odd ones out in the tow timeframe at the moment, they mainly have their dark elf invasion to deal with but idk if they interact much with the old world til the last moments of the great war

>>96794603
The boss tells his followers to stand back and then has a calm and reasonable discussion with the beastman leader, convincing him that blue fits him better as a color.

Would this made cool WHFB terrain?

>>96795503
Lol I forgot about them, not a ton, but if I had to guess, when we get a follow-up for the whole Norsca raiding Marienburg thing with Cathay, they’ll probably show up there. The only narrative point they had is Norsca is raiding their outposts so they started hunting down their longships.

>>96795605
The pyramid and mural absolutely, the rest not so much. Give the pyramid a thorough Zandri Dust drybrush and it'd look sick as fuck

>>96795605
Fuck yeah just prime over the pyramid and drybrush it up in sand colors.

BROS

>>96795643
neat https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/jaa76ljd/bring-chaos-to-the-old-world-with-a-horde-of-rampaging-marauders/

>>96795643
too overly detailed/nuGW style. after all these years, what a let down.

>>96795643
I gotta agree with the other guy, this shit is way too overdetailed.

>>96795654
Seriously? It's really getting frustrating at this point. What the FUCK is modern GWs problem with making realistically proportioned horses???

>>96795643
>>96795654
These look like they're based off bad guys from the generic MMO that the millennial CAD sculptor grew up playing. They do NOT look like Warhammer Fantasy

>>96795643
They look pretty . . . big? Hope they don't overshadow the chaos warriors

Fuck I hope this doesn’t mean they’re getting rid of the old marauders, I gotta stock up on those now. Worst case I’ll just buy more victrix models.

>>96795654
There literally isn't one single space on these things that isn't plastered with greebles and embellished detail. I don't get at what point GW transitioned to this new soulless style. Even the original Primaries and Stormcast shit weren't this overdone.

>>96795674
>They do NOT look like Warhammer Fantasy
true.they look better and less generic

>>96795671
This isn't at all comparable. Are you blind?

>>96795643
sanity check

>>96795691
Not him but they genuinely are. The proportions are too off for the rider/horse.

why are grogs here so bad at painting?

>>96795698
Tbh all they needed to do was make a marauder kit that brought the footsloggers up to the standard of the existing horsemen

>>96795703
Look man there’s a good reason why most people here are painting beastmen and not something like Bret’s

>>96795700
There are different breeds of different sizes and proportions out there, the new marauder horses are entirely within the realms of possibility. You're just searching for shit to be angry about.

>>96795657
>>96795662
>>96795674
>>96795676
>>96795684
>>96795693
>>96795698
Cope

>>96795684
Yeah I agree, it makes for a busy silhouette

The eternal lesson nu-GE won't learn is can =/ = should

>>96795715
Ur mum fished u out of her womb with a copehanger, that's why your brain is mush

>>96795643
I actually really like them but painting them seems like a pain in the butt

>>96795711
Beastmen are pretty detailed. The basic Gors are covered in cloth, trophies, pieces of bone/horn, medallions, etc, if you want them to look good you have to put in some effort.
Orcs on the other hand seem pretty basic, albeit I’ve never painted any boyz for WHFB/OW

>>96795714
It’s not plausible for norscans to be finding such cartoonish breeds in their hell hole.

>>96795731
I agree

They're definitely more Norscan than generic barbarian tho, so there's less individual customisation available I feel

>>96795734
There is nothing cartoonish about them. Stop making shit up.

>>96795732
I don’t have many good things to say here but I’ll just say the skill floor for painting beastmen is much lower than most other armies.

>>96795643
>>96795654
Fucking nice, huge improvement over the old ones. Perfect timing for my gf (female(goth)) starting her WoC army.

I guess the rumors the norcsa arcane journal was shitcanned is true and they are being branded as chaos generics instead.

>>96795732
Nigga do you spend your entire day in this thread?

If I wanted to do a chaos marauder army based on a Mongolian horde, how would you go about kitbashing it?

People crying can just use the new MESBG barbarians tbhon

>>96795754
Greenstuff fu manchus on their faces, give them more tassels, give a few guys some lamellar armor

>>96795754
Buy historicals
Put skulls on them

>>96795754
Use the Cathay horses, redo the helmets, add horns and furs, replace weapons with distinctly chaosy ones - use as chaos knights

Have some less armoured horse archers for the bulk of the army, treat as javelins

I don't see any female heads in there
Why'd GW shy away from jamming women into THIS batch?

>>96795780
Because this was originally a norsca release and the women are specific units like valkyries that got scrapped.

>>96795771
Historicals are tiny compared to 28mm, best avoided unless just using for bits

>>96795753
You don’t?

Joking aside I pop in once in a while. I like the hobby and to share my minis since personally I am very pleased how they look.

>>96795786
That's just Perry and warlord games kits. Victric, WGA, etc are a match

>>96795643
>All white dudes from the all white place
>No women unceremoniously shoved in
>Definitely Norsca flavoured

I'm pretty pleased with it

>>96795795
Weapons, hands/feet and heads are distinctly smaller

So they cancelled Norsca, didn't they?

>>96795809
If you need official confirmation, this is it

>>96795643
These are nice, but the old marauders will always be my favourites. These new ones will look out of place next to my 5th edition models. I wonder if this means there'll be more old models on the second hand market. I'm still looking for five of the 6th ed marauder horsemen horses...
I really don't like what they're saying about the new arcane journal. More Frydaal... I bet it's only going to have 2 magic items that are actually fun again. I don't want to buy it.

So with them going so hard into "The two shall never meet" team vs team horseshit what do you want to see from the inevitable 2nd edition demons that have to be anything but AoS style models?

I wish they did tutorials on their background scenery, these houses look pretty good

>>96795823
GW heaping up the pile of books each player 'needs' to have is getting obnoxious. They've never made a more open and blatant attempt to speed-milk a playerbase

>>96795826
I want Nurgle thats more folk horror and less "zombies but zombicide zombies", perhaps lean into the whole "drowned men" angle.

I want Tzeentch to be 100% different. Less vaguely ancient persian wizards and go full alchemists that went all mercury clayface or something.

I want Slaanesh to be ultra hedonists. Like a slaaneshi army treats it like a parade where the most degenerate shit like hog roast but its a person or perfumers like in elden ring spraying out drugs into the air with cultists more like emire flagellants than lucius the eternal copy pasted. Like medieval ravers that dont even know what year it is.

Khorne can do fucking anything khornes going to be boring as fuck regardless. Hell iron maidens or some shit.

>>96795823
I've gotten so many of those leather club marauders in cheap lots it's not funny, and yet I've not obtained a single horseman for cheap in any of them.

>>96795643
>>96795654
Awesome

>>96795832
I don't like it either, I regret buying the chaos AJ. There was nothing interesting in it besides the Tome of thr Dark Gods, which isn't even good because they fucked up the chaos lore spells. At least these books help keep the game profitable. Hopefully. But I'm not falling for it anymore. Unless the new book actually has interesting magic items, spells, and rules that my chaos army can actually use without having to play a sub-faction (an odious concept that reeks of 40k if there ever was one. Yes, I know 6th had alternative army lists, but that was different).

>>96795643
that's a lot of details for chaff infantry. I'll be still getting these albeit for aos where their details is a bit less overwhelming since they'll not be ranked up

>>96795671

Looks like a Shire Horse...not entirely impossible.

>>96795786
Depends on the range, some "28mm" are more like 25mm, others are perfect. I use Perrys for my Bretonnian infantry because I don't like the 6e retard mudcore manlets and the pre-6e metals are inordinately expensive, even the MTO was hilariously overpriced. Perry infantry actually scale quite nicely with my KOTR on foot and the metals I have.

>>96795827
Email them and ask, you miss every shot you don’t take

>>96795826
>Nurgle: more serrated weapons and hooks. Less comedic and more "we understand you are afraid, but trust us its for the best" where they see themselves as faith healers. Ironic plague doctors
>Slaanesh: Empire Flagellants meets a Brazilian carnival. The world is ending, the time is nigh. So throw out your morals and revel in this last parade to dance and sing and cut to bring on the apocalypse. Hedonites without being hellraiser knock offs.
>Khorne: Martial Prowess, Authoritarianism and trying and failing to hold their bloodthirst in check. Great iron maiden style constructs ala trench crusade where men lucid one minute and a feral beast the next are restrained and treated like living saints till a pit crew with a short lifespan let them loose on enemies.
>T'zeentch: Inflicting change by tainting water supplies or crops. Turning people into some elemental tzimisce chronenburg shit or making the land itself shift like in Annihilation. Big focus on demon possessing not just people but beasts.

>>96795855
That may be because marauder horsemen have always been really good on the table while regular marauders have almost always been a bit crap. Personally, I like the 6th ed plastic marauders a lot. I'd be lying if I said they've served me well, as these little shits have never accomplished much in the dozen or so games I've played with them and the big FAQ effectively neutered them completely, but I'm fond of them nevertheless. And they're not part of a leather club! They just haven't earned their chaos armor yet.

>>96795643
>>96795654
These are actually really nice model.
I've never been a fan of the old 6th ed Marauders, but I really like these and I can see my Warrior heavy army finally getting some Marauders.

Considering the news Im curious is GW planning on doing new Chaos Warriors, Knights, and Chosen for ToW despite having done new kits for AoS not that long ago?

>>96795964
Chosen and Forsaken probably, WoC and Knights no

>>96795964
They might lean in on the more mortal focused side of Chaos warriors if im gonna be honest. Maybe get that mammoth, some other kind norscan shit. Likely they'll make the werewolves into plastic before re-doing chosen.

>>96795964
They don't want specialist games and mainline games using the same models. If its in AoS its either being replaced in AoS or replaced in ToW.

Which makes the fact they are replacing all the Ogres in AoS in one go veeery interesting.

>>96795643
>>96795654
>clothes instead of shirtless
>no conan kino
>sigmar scale proportions
yeah im thinking these suck ass, these don’t look like warhammer fantasy models and they have all the same issues as the plastic foot knights to me

>>96795738
>there's less individual customisation available
That's an inevitable and unfortunate consequence of all the little bits and bobs they stick on the models now. Like model flanderization

>>96795983
>these don’t look like warhammer fantasy models
Yes they do, stop whining, fag

IT'S AFRAID

New Arcane journal confirmed. What silly none norsca bullshit will it put in it so everyone buys it like Setra's recent one following the Necromunda model?

>>96795994
>model flanderization
Finally, thats what I hate about these models. Couldnt articulate it at all but thats a perfect way to capture what I disilike about them.

>>96796002
>reddit
stay there

>>96795643
>>96795654
holy shit this is a declaration of total war on aos

>>96796021
>he doesn't saltmine

>>96796025
No, despite being on a 4chan board im not a complete loser.

>>96795809
This is just a taste for Norsca being its own faction in 2e

>>96795643
I kinda hope they don't get rid of the old Marauder Horseman kit but I know they will.
Also, no Marauder Chieften character is a surprise

>>96796024
The fat woman standard bearer is like 50% of my issue with this kit

>>96796034
You're complaining about images on an image board you don't like, if you weren't a loser you'd just ignore and move on m8

>>96795643
>>96795654
I think these would look way better in a skirmish blob than ranked up, they blend together too much in ranks.

>>96795780
No black people as well

Not to be a whiner, but for Chaos Warriors I feel like what they needed most was characters.

I mean, other than the manlet 90's era champions they re-release on occasion, there's just not many proper heroes for the range. There should be a BSB and a plastic chaos dragon at the very least.

>new minis look cool as hell and have no women and blacks
>fags still complain

What the fuck do you guys actually want

>>96796074
minis that befit a rank and flank game.

>>96796074
something kitbashable with historicals

>>96796074
The fact its half and half is a great sign for this thread considering half the posters here are just trolls.
Also Mammoth soon?

>>96796074
actual warhammer fantasy models and not nu-hammer looking shit

>>96796072
nah

fixing the armies' basic troops is the absolute priority, entire ranges died because gw neglected the normal troops

heroes can, and sometimes should, be converted

>>96796074
The models GW made from 1988 to 2002.

>>96796087
>NOOOOOOOO YOU DISAGREE WITH ME
>YOU ARE LE HECKIN TROLERINO!!!!!
Grow some skin

>>96796024
While the poses are very dynamic as a whole these barbarians look gay and lame as fuck, what were they thinking

>Alongside rules for your Marauders, this new softback supplement goes into detail about the warrior tribes of Norsca, the four primordial spirits and how they worship them, and Frydaal the Chainmaker’s invasion of the Westerland. New rules for the four Cults of Chaos, Chaotic Traits, a Lore of the Shadowlands, plus new Artefacts of the Shadowlands give you everything you need to represent a ferocious army of tribesmen in thrall to the Chaos gods.
Why do these Maruders need stat lines from the original ones?
>Finally, a Path to Glory campaign lets you take a 500 point army on the warpath, growing them in size and strength as you play, accompanied by three new scenarios themed around the Marauders. You’ll need Arcane Journal: The War of Settra’s Fury for the campaign and three Battle March size scenarios, and Ravening Hordes for the main Warriors of Chaos army rules.
GW being a bit book crazy with TOW

>>96795964
Marauders in aos have a very conan-esque style while these new ones for tow are much more fantasy vikings, the aesthetics are different enough to justify separate releases. New aos chaos warriors/chosen/knights are just straight up modern refreshes of the old kit. Would be pretty pointless to remake these for tow. They'll probably focus on forsaken, war mammoths, chaos dragons, ... and other tow exclusive stuff

>>96796024
Of course not my good anon, surely the clean-shaven DYEL twinks, women, obese women, blacks, and obese black women are what the people want in their evil northern barbarian marauder miniatures

>>96796074
I second that, it's all so fucking tiresome. However, most of the ppl here are just whiny bitches who don't represent the entire community and most likely don't even play the game or own any miniatures. Everyone else is happy to see the new miniatures

>>96796120
>Why do these Maruders need stat lines from the original ones?
They look like they're on 30mm, so probably just reflecting that.
>GW being a bit book crazy with TOW
You can find it all online, so I don't mind too much. Especially when they all come with new lore and stories.

>>96796074
99% sure it's /aosg/ having a cheeky ickle meltie in the wrong thread

>>96796120
They don't, that text doesn't say anything about stats for them

>>96796120
>GW being a bit book crazy with TOW
Necromunda player here. You are like little babby.

>>96796132
To be fair the AoS ones aren't meant to be from 'north' anywhere

>>96796143
>Necromunda player here
My condolences. Wish you guys had the Mordheim treatment you deserve where you're left in peace

The only thing I am complaining about is that the evil factions get all the cool shit, while I as an empire player am shit out of luck because half of the cool shit is missing because it's from the Karl franz era

>>96796074
You answered your own question. They are here to complain, not hobby and play.

>>96796150
Because AoS isn't a setting, it's the ideal generic corposlop

>>96796152
Don't tempt the monkey's paw, new State Troopers will probably come with femberdiers

>>96795785
I hope the valkyries are still coming

Weird that GW didn't do a plastic regiment of Slayers when the Slayer army came out, I can't think of a wfb kit that would sell more than plastic Slayers

>>96796152
Bro i don't know how to tell you this but all the good factions in WHFB are boring. You have folk horror satyrs, vampire nobility, mutant viking warriors, egyptian mummies, zany rat men, norf fc ogres and orcs and gobbos versus... dudes, tall dudes and short dudes.

This aint a historical game lad, its about fighting the battles on 70's album covers. Evil just looks so much better doing it.

>>96796002
>>96796024
>For the first time I think TOW wins.
>For the first time
>Acting like almost every new Old World models hasn't BTFO the AoS equivalents in looks We don't talk about the foot knights

>>96796152
What's missing that you want?

>>96796152
I don't want to complain since TK got some pretty neat new models, but the horse riders are unusable and it's only 4 commanders, not an entire range of rank-and-flank sculpts.

>>96796161
>fucking hate the terry pratchett aesthetic of my state troopers they introduced in 2007
>would even be ok with the new 32mm size, monoposes and detail creep aslong as they look cooler and wear fucking SHOES
>there's inevitably going to be a few female heads and perhaps even torsos

I am conflicted.

>>96796174
Damn this just really shows the mogging in real time

>>96796177
It was hilarious that everyone was saying they’re good models when TK all know that you would never ever take a character with skeleton horsemen

>>96796152
Hey those new wizards you got were some of the best.

>>96795643
>>96795654

>>96796175
KARL FUCKING FRANZ ON DEATHCLAW WIELDING THE WARHAMMER™

Nuln ironsides, celestial arcanum, reiksguard knights, knights on foot, pikemen, college wizards, the marienburg landship, manaans blades, and generally new models, heroes or whatever that don't look like from clash of clans (like lowenhacke and the other new guy )

>>96796182
>32mm
Slop.

Just use historical proxies which unironically look more Empire than anything GW could produce nowadays, or use the original Perry Empire state troopers which are still being sold by Foundry

>>96796174
there's been some dire releases too honestly, like the two new empire characters, the high elf one, and of course >spoiler
on the whole it's been pretty alright though

>>96795643
>>96795654

No blacks, no women and nothing for age of shitmar. What a day, what a day.

>>96796209
age of sigmar is down the hall and to the left

Why do you guys talk about AoS so much?

>>96796215
What was wrong with the Knight on a horse character for the Empire or the Wizards?

>>96796227
>no women
Who do you think is leading them?

>>96795654
>>96795643
Of course they reveal these a month after I get my marauders... but I want a full army, so this is very welcome.

>>96796072
It's very telling that there used to be dozens upon dozens of chaos champion and sorcerer models available at any one time back when GW would cast character models in metal. We had options! Now that everything is in plastic they can't justify making as many different models because cutting the moulds is too expensive. GW needs to go back to using metal for character models. They seem to have been trying that for TOW, but now they're just making more and more plastic. It's a shame, really.

>>96796236
Nobody talks about aos, the guy earlier was saying as much earlier.

New purchase just came in, he will be a great candidate for a Marauder Chieftain.

>>96796249
One thing I like about the new TK characters is that they at least give you 4 heads and different arm poses/held objects so you could make 4 different looking Liche Priests with the same kit.

>>96796174

I like how the norscans are finally dressed appropriately for the season. Bur I think I'd still rather buy victrix miniatures for my hairy barbarian needs.

>>96796256
Im really looking forward to seeing this dude ranked up with the new marauders anon!

>>96796269
I wonder what the size difference is gonna be between them.

>>96796256
Very nice, anon. That champion of Khorne is part of my collection as well and is one of my favourites. Remember to give him a name after you're done repainting him. It'll make him kill better.

>>96796274
bad

>>96796174
Are they allergic to sculpting musculature?

>>96795809
Why the fuck would Norsca be a separate faction? Didn't make sense in Total War and doesn't make sense here.

>>96796238
Their chieftain?

>>96796285
read the article

>>96796275
I'm missing the old Khorne mounted champion, but I can't wait to get them all painted up eventually.

>>96796283
they didn't use to be

>>96795643
Those models look actually great.
>>96795674
They absolutely look like Warhammer Fantasy. Check the art in 5th ed chaos codex, where they were introduced.
It's this shit >>96795983 that came after. Oh look - they finally look like they live in a cold place, holy shit!

>>96796182
>32mm
A bigass norsman or chaos warrior being 32mm tall doesn't mean the game is 32mm scale. Big things are bigger.

>>96796228
>that don't look like from clash of clans (like lowenhacke and the other new guy )

I am literally complaining about the AoS aesthetic infecting new old world models

>>96796238
Your mom lol

>>96796237
the wizard are great, the dude on horse just looks off to me. Maybe it's the pose.

>>96796299
Named characters only exist if you allow them to. They don't lead your warband.

>>96794104
>>96794339
Hey buddy... You still stand by these posts?

>>96796237
The wizards are legit great, I just hate the proportions of the knight guy, they look too much like he's from world of warcraft

>>96796074
>cool as hell
We get it, you love slop, but for the rest of us trve WHFB enjoyers we been SOVL. All these new sculpts for WH Fantasy might as well based on circles at this point

>>96796305
this was the first "darkoath" model, and it's still, by far, the best

>>96796337
They do in the narrative

>>96796139
>Alongside rules for your new marauders

They haven't reprinted old rules in books before, why would they do it now?

It's about time the dudes from the icy north are dressed like it instead of running around with their lack of nipples out.
>>96796074
>the thread full of nasty fucking losers who bitch about everything are... bitching about something?
This thread is a lost cause.

>>96796329
The pose looks weird probably due to it being a reference to John Blanches Knight Panther artwork

>>96796349
I legit don't understand the love for the old marauders that look like Van darkholme with a top knot

>>96796349
Anon nobody liked the shirtless plastic marauders. It was either the older metals or the 7th edition horsemen. These are qite possibly the best marauder models GW has ever made.

>>96796367
speak for yourself, muscles are cool. Only fatties can never appreciate them.

>>96796364
People like that poster are not genuine. They are literally just trolls; they don't have real opinions. They will tell you to your face that, say, the Tomb Kings skeletons are better than the Vampire Counts skeletons because "sovl". He's gonna reply with that "ya seethe" image soon because I said that, btw.
Here's a good rule of thumb: If you can't imagine a person saying the contents of a post to you in public or at the LGS, disregard it.

I dont like them. Overdesigned bullshit of aos style; but at least no blackoids and womenoids.

>>96796351
What narrative? If it sucks, don't read it. Come up with your own characters and your own narrative.

>>96796384
TOW isnt a narrative game.

>>96796376
Maybe if they were well sculpted but they looked awful.

>>96796367
I like them. I'm someone. I even posted mine in this thread.
>>96796385
Then why do you care about GW's narrative? Make your own warband.

>>96796380
>aos style
Mate AoS got their own marauders. These are NOT aos style lmao.

>>96796357
They'll be changing something about the current Marauder rules. Maybe some new weapons or somthing.

>>96796380
>aos style
This means literally nothing now, unless you just mean "modern sculpt quality".

>>96796364
>>96796367
>>96796379
That's because you didn't grow up on Warhammer Fantasy like we did and don't have nostalgia for it. You started on Age of Troonmar or nu40k and never even heard of Warhammer before 2018

>>96796399
New kit has bits for hand weapons and shield, flails and great weapons. Nothing seems to be changing there.

>>96796407
Keep telling yourself that. Marauders have never been popular because they looked like shit. Everyone just took warriors. I don't know why you're trying to revise history.

>>96795643
>>96795654
Absolute Kino. This is a really nice update.

>>96796399
They're just way too extravagant now to be used as cheap chaff
Maybe they'll let them have S4

>>96796357
>>96796399
>>96796411
Looks like they're doubling down on the Norscan stuff and making them distinct from regular chaos rules which imo is sweet.

>>96796418
>doesn't deny the allegations
I'm right yet again

>>96796407
I've started playing in 5th edition. Never liked current plastics (on-foot, cavalry is pretty decent). New models are much better. Debate me.

>>96796407
Thanks for the demonstration post for my "If you can't imagine a person saying the contents of a post to you in public or at the LGS, disregard it." maxim.

>>96796418
Marauders haven't been very effective, not since 6th edition at the very least. People took warriors in 8th because they were arguably overpowered and nobody takes warriors or marauders in TOW because they both suck. Marauder horsemen, on the other hand, have always been really good.

>>96796427
if they eventually plan on having very distinct armies between tow and aos, then focusing on norscans is the one thing tow could do with chaos

>>96796427
>Fimir are schrödinger's models
I do like Fimir

>>96796074
Complaining is the /wfg/ hobby. You would think the hobby is Warhammer Fantasy, but thats actually a tangentially related side activityy (like the RPG is to WHFB proper).

>>96796445
Yeah, it would also tie in to Total Warhammer which has them separate.

>>96796436
Flail marauders were good in 7th and usable in 8th.

>>96796427
I generally do not like the direction chaos is going. Ill probably bank on dark elves as my evil faction whenever they get added.

>>96796463
Then I stand corrected. My bad, anon. I always thought marauders were horrendously overcosted for what they did in 8th, especially compared to warriors.

>>96796436
flail maruaders were good pre erata no games.

>>96796283
No

>>96795643
>>96795653
Awesome! Glad Norsca is getting some love.

>>96796427
The kit would still be for regular generic chaos marauders though. I'd like to know what this means for warriors and knights. I doubt they'll keep the old kits for them when they look so dated next to these marauders but the AoS versions haven't changed anything about the design except the shields so getting new kits that look 90% the same as those seems unlikely.

All the casual fake-players celebrating this sigmarified crumbs. Pathetic.

>>96796490
Post models.

>>96796472
Marauder horsemen with flails were very good, that's true. But infantry marauders with flails and the mark of khorne were barely adequate. I'll concede that they were the only way to make infantry marauders viable. I should know, I used them! I even posted all about them in these threads. They're sure as shit not good now though, now are they? And I'd argue they were never actually good, just the 2nd best infantry unit chaos had access to after forsaken, but that really isn't saying much.

>>96796490
This is what "sigmarified" crap looks like. Are you retarded?

It's genuinely fascinating how quickly the reception here turned from "YESSSSS SIGMAR BTFO" to "Um actually these are basically sigmar models and they're le bad actually"

>All these outragebucks getting mad about models they wont buy for a game they don't play.

Fellas the 40k general is that way.

>>96795786
Not everyone can be empire chad with huge strong gorilla hands.

>>96796470
>were horrendously overcosted for what they did in 8th, especially compared to warriors.
Yes, thats also true. But like forsaken they were actually "usable" insofar that they could perform just fine against their intended targets.

The "issue" was that chaos warriors were THE (or one of anyways) most cost effective melee infantry in the game when it came to a solo punch-up, so naturally the other melee infantry in the book (forsaken, marauders, chosen) suffered in terms of niche for it. Chaos Ogres also suffered more or less the same problem.

Its the reverse of 7th, where chaos warriors were still pretty adequate (basically the exact same stats and cost as 8e) but the dirt cheap marauders were just much better bang for your buck.

>>96796502
It's just a couple of trolls blatantly lying.

>>96796502
What are you talking about, most of the whining were the first few posts and the happy posts came later (and are more numerous).

>>96796434
You must play in a Portland Oregon or California LGS

>>96796427
Didn't this guy get settra's fury comically wrong? Assuming it's the same discord "leaker" that usually gets posted here.

>>96795809
Norsca would be an AoI like the border princes or whatever.

>>96796542
WARHAMMER models

>>96796534
You must literally never go outside if you think that acting like a bellicose 4chan poster is acceptable in public. It has nothing to do with politics; if you are out randomly insulting people over minor things, people will not like you and will not associate with you.

These armies of infamy were a mistake. They wouldn't have needed to make subfactions if they had just made the actual army rules good.

>>96796538
No, he actually got himself being wrong wrong. He said he was wrong about there being a Phalanx rule in the book, people dunked on him, then the booked released and there was indeed the Phalanx rule. Which is fucking hilarious lmao

>>96796557
Each shit compnigger this is a narrativeCHADS game.

>>96796502
I don't think they're bad models. I do think that the contrast between the previous iteration being half naked Conan dudes and these guys looking like game of thrones background characters is funny.

>>96796502
You're talking about multiple posters, not some widespread change of heart.
You'll find addiction to outrage and trolling in literally every release nowadays, gw could make a honest to god perfect kit for something and you'd still have people criticising it from multiple angles.

>>96796569
40k crusade is a much better narrative game than whfb has ever been albiet.

Been away from WHFB since around february working on heresy things, finishing that up so wondering what I missed. How did the new releases (catha/the new journal books) go? I heard cathay is busted as shit, as bad as bretonnia/orcs and goblins?

>>96796569
What? Competitive play has nothing to do with my post, what the fuck are you on about? The AoIs aren't a narrative thing. They're not a competitive thing either. Most of them are worse than the default army list and don't even have a narrative tied to them!

Those fucking grognards are beyond retardation. They hate anything new, everything is "overdesigned" or "aosimarified", and they cry about this spamming everywhere (even in not TOW/WHF threads). What the fuck you want?!?

>>96796575
I kind of don't think that I am. I think that anybody bringing up AoS in any capacity is a troll at this point.

>>96796587
>The AoIs aren't a narrative thing
Oh no, its retarded.

>>96796554
Just depends on how hot and charismatic you are. Maybe (You) can't get away with it, but I say whatever I want and people always laugh at my racist, anti semitic and homophobic jokes

>>96796597
Anon you dont genuinely think the AOIS add anything meaningful for most armies do you?

>>96796603
>If you can't imagine a person saying the contents of a post to you in public or at the LGS, disregard it.

>>96796209
>karl franz
Isn't he on the general on gryphon sprue?
>celestial arcanum
>college wizards
Don't exist at this point in the timeline

>>96796597
If the default armies had access to all the units and magic items that were added by the arcane journals, you could have had whatever narrative you wanted without locking those options away from the regular army list. They're not a narrative thing, they're pointless. There's no reason the few unique army rules these AoIs get couldn't have been upgrades to specific character or unit types.

>>96796587
>and don't even have a narrative tied to them!
Every Arcane Journal has a narrative element to it, and those narratives are even tied between journals.

The AoI (taken in isolation) are "just" themed lists, they dont have an inherent narrative to them but they - being themed lists - lend themselves well to certain narratives.

>>96796608
Anon you stupid cabbage brain. They are meant to represent an existing force in the lore to reenact a specific battle. They are for casual fun. They are not 40k themed lists or spearheads or something.

>>96796630
>40k themed lists
But that's exactly what they are. They're subfactions! You shouldn't need special rules to come up with a themed list. Well-written army books, like the ones we used to have, used to let you do that with just a default army list!

>>96796618
>If the default armies had access to all the units and magic items that were added by the arcane journals
They wouldnt be themed lists would they?

AoIs are tradeoffs on the standard list, coming with new units or buffs but in return having more limitations in what you have access to to better represent and allow for a certain kind of force. Whats the point of bretonnian exiles having a stronger focus on infantry and artillery (at the cost of grail knights and the blessing) if mainline bretonnia could take both cannons and GKs?

>>96796249
>Now that everything is in plastic they can't justify making as many different models because cutting the moulds is too expensive

More so that the costs to make metal minis made large sprues for boxes of infantry were prohibitive, so they made everything in single model batches which lends itself better to single, special characters than legions of mooks

>looks inside narrative game
>is actually just a competitive game
Back to Horus heresy I go!

>>96796449
I too like fimir

I think there's a place in tow for making a subfaction that focuses on them and dragon ogres, with chaos trolls, giants and dragons in tow

>>96796357
The rules in the book are marauder focused anon

>>96796662
>TOW
>competitive
Only if you play against painfully obvious slantshit like Cathay balloon spam or Bretonnia pegasus spam

>>96796662
TOW is weird since outside of the AJ Historical scenarios, there really isn't any narrative to the game, and it seems it won't until the next AJ, which has Path to Glory rules in it

>>96796407
So you're admitting that the only reason to like the old maruaders is nostalgia and nothing to do with actual quality?

>>96796650
Armybooks are balanced around the full roster being available, generally with specific elements of that roster being expected as the centerpoints which pick up the slack for the rest of the list.

You could make nearly whatever themed list you want in any given army in any given edition. Its just going to be non-functional garbage 99% of the time because "what if I just dont take any cannons as dwarfs for the memes" was not something the dwarf army book was (or should) be written in consideration with.

Chaos marauders are balanced around the fact that they exist alongside elite chaos troops, this limits how good you can make them, both in the sense of "if theyre too elite whats the point of the even more elite variants" and "if chaos has powerful elites, it should not have good chaff to support them or it would be too much". You COULD make a marauder themed army in 6e or 7e or 8e, it just wouldnt be any good.

AoI are written with those restrictions and themes as a given, so they can allow for units and rules which compensate for the lack of those normally core features in a way you couldnt do otherwise. Thats the point of them dumbass.

>>96796542
Post your models anon not ones you pulled off the internet

>>96796588
Yeah, 30 45+ years old dumb no life assholes thinking they have authority or weight on what the rest of us think. I hope they die soon, so we can have some peace.

>>96796685
You wouldn't get it, Nuhammer piggy

>total war has a norscan DLC incoming
>tow announces norscan models


>rumors say there might be a tomb-kings centric DLC left for total war in the future
>tow doesn't release updated plastic tomb king skeletons yet despite a journal

>>96796618
Looking options is part of the narrative anon. How is my "banner of norsca" a narrative choice if literally any army of chaos can take it? You have to enforce a narrative not merely allow for it or else the game just ends up being people taking advantage of rules meant for thematic armies to make the best soup list possible.

>>96796407
I very literally grew up on/with WHFB, I have collected chaos warriors for most of my life. The old marauders were ass back in the day too. Horsemen were (and are) fine, good source of bits and still look decent. But the basic marauders, of which I have too many due to them coming in old batallions, are horrific to look at.

This isnt even to mention the absolute state of the molds, I dont know if this got fixed for the TOW "relaunch" but the quality was abysmal, the moldlines on those dudes were closer to whole new pieces.

>>96796608
Depends on the AoI.

>>96796714
You need to be 18 to post here, kiddo.

>>96795643
>>96795654
they should fire the whole eavy metal team
if you highlight everything on something busy all the way to offwhite it all ends looking like noise

>>96796735
>posts someone else's model he found on reddit

Thanks for proving my point nomodels

>>96796741
post physique

>>96796744
Post some models, grogtard.

>>96796766
Post penis.

>>96796770
Sure.

>>96796761
If I posted my models it would derail the interesting topic at hand

>>96796735
?

Presented without comment

>>96796825
What am I supposed to be noticing?

Why does the Warlock Engineer not buff or interact with war machines at all? Dwarf and Chorf engineers do...

>>96796825
There's a joke in there about Rosa Parks, but I can't be bothered.

>>96796816
OMG look at all those DETAILS!!!

Post minis

>>96796816
nta, that looks great but its a nightmare to make it rank up

Post some more minis/armys

>>96796832
a black Viking

Give me your comfiest /wfg/ videos i can throw on while painting.

>>96796846
2nd part

>>96796852
where?

>>96796856
Book of Choyer's Stephan Hoffman series
Tabletop Tactics batreps
Eric's Hobby Workshop Mordheim terrain videos

>>96796793
>it's perryfag

Oh okay I should have assumed as such you disingenuous faggot

Magnus the pious when

>>96796852
Nah, its just ashen skin like this standard bearer here: >>96795654

>>96796825
>Director: Okay, the fans really want these to look as authentic as possible, so let's make sure they look like real Northmen from an Icy hellscape
>White British male painter: please.. please...let me squeeze in at least ONE nigger, PLEASE I must include a nigger! I MUST be inclusive please let me paint a nigger...please I want to fu-..err.. paint a nigger...please.. I'll put him in the very back, just please

>>96796856
Tilea Trobles

>>96796825
Is that… a guy wearing gloves?! AIEEEEEEEEEEEE IM LITERALLY GOING INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE

>>96796880
Shit I meant this one: >>96796880

>>96796846
3rd part

>>96796885
Kek

>>96796879
I think at this point in the timeline he is like 10 years old, so it might be a while before he gets a model, as I don't think GW likes giving human minors models

>>96796299
Oh, I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that every single tribe had their own identical special character to lead every single little skirmish. How silly of me. And thank you for teaching me that every single Norsca tribe all over The Old World is lead by the same singular individual. I bow to your wisdom, oh great one.

>>96796839
Time to paint another 20 of the new ones

>>96796825
You people are like parodies of yourselves

>>96796825
Yeah, I don't get why they carry horns on their shoulders either

>>96796825
Historically authentic Geat.

>>96796885
This is literally how urban British men think

It still bothers me marauders cant use two hand weapons.

>>96796885
Lmao, this actually happened

>>96795643
>>96795654
If I’m not wrong don’t the AJs have units that are slightly better equipped and slightly better marauders?
These guys would make good candidates if you wanted to have both sculpts in a force.

>>96796873
>PERRYS

>>96797027
yea, Huscarls and Berserkers (berserkers arent better equipped, but they are slightly nastier)

If the Fimir are back alongside the all-white-male Marauders, we're truly witnessing a CHUDMAGEDDON of epic proportions.
By the time Asavar Kul comes, he will have an eight-pronged Sonnenrad etched on his shield

>>96796905
>And thank you for teaching me that every single Norsca tribe all over The Old World is lead by the same singular individual.
That's the Everchosen.

>>96796427
I'm the bloke whose fimir all burned down a month ago so I fucking hope they're back.

>>96797031
TOWGODS, I'm getting kinda tired of winning

TOW chads can't stop winning

>>96797031
You associate yourself with a race of rapists? I thought that was the kind of thing you looked down on others for...

>>96797053
Fucking kek, this is hilarious.
>>96797065
Shut the fuck up pussy

>>96797053
I’m honestly surprised they didn’t at least show off some female or at least ambiguous heads. The clothes are baggy enough you could bullshit it. But nah every at least shown off head is 100% a dude

>>96796074
It's AoSissies astroturfing, surely you can't be this oblivious?

>>96796759
Yeah, the original specialist team painters were way better, too bad they switched everything to eavy metal.

>>96796825
Is that a nog? I thought his face was just heavily shadowed.

>>96796074
It's clearly crybaby AoS faggots trolling and seething, like 70% of the posts have been positive

The new marauders are really good. Its a different aesthetic to the pupier "conan-esque" 6e marauders, but its also just one that fits better with the setting as depicted most of the time (marauders arent generally depicted as the over the top "heroic" barbarian, and more as rapey viking raiders - likewise with the reast of the chaoss tuff). I especially like the fact that theyre wearing chainmail under those leathers and furs.

It still reads as more primitive (especially with the ragged cloth and furs and stuff adorning them) but it was always one of those things which felt lacking (obviously the chaos tribes would wear armor of some sort, even if its not as impressive as chaos plate). And chain has a good use here, reading as less advanced and impressive than the armor of other races but ultimately practical and sensible (as opposed to "light armor because theyre wearing a leather strap")


The weapons and shields also look entirely practical and reasonable. Brutal and savage looking, but ultimately entirely within the realms of human weapons. The big fur shoulders also help give them a similar sillhouette to the chaos warriors, providing some nice visual cohesion across the range.

Which Mini should get an update next

>>96797233
i think an updated cygor/gorgon could really go places after the mega gargants.

>>96797130
>Add women to new Bretonnian units, even though the faction is infamously pretty sexist in most regards.
>Keep the new Chaos Marauders as all guys, even though there are cases of women leading Norscan tribes and becoming Chaos Warriors, so if you wanted to add new women to the model line it made sense here.
Ok then GW.

>>96797201
This. I'm a true grognard and i fucking love those minis. Posting more models.

I really like detailed minis.

>>96797237
What would you want change? For my money, the cygor/ghorgon is just about perfect as is.

>Plebs and outrage grifters glad they didnt get big titted norscan women coming to break down doors and steal young, virile empire men.

I don't understand you people and i think i live life better that way.

>>96797244
>Throgg and the Missus. The average Northern couple.

>>96796542
>perrynigger

>>96797248
Having recently painted some space marines I can appreciate the value of simpler models, but yea details and fidelity are generally better.
Although really its a balance, ideally a model looks good while also being appropriate for what it is. since while having each individual footsoldier be as detailed as a character model is better in many regards, it makes the army much more time consuming to build and paint so from a "these are game pieces that I want to use to make an army to play with" perspective overly detailed and complex models can detract from things.

>>96797255
Never say never, maybe a coupke of AJs down the line we get norse shield-maidens in their full bikini armor glory. The black ones wear leopard pattern underwear.

why did gw change the cover?

>>96797254
More fur and a bit more dynamic posing. Like both are standing stark upright and yelling and thats just doesnt scream beastmen to me. More giant. Like Gorgons are all about lobbing stuff so have him arcing back with a big chunk of statue or castle wall in one hand to just splatter some footsoldiers. Or the gorgon more turned at the waist like hes just slicing through something like a helicopter with its blades.

In general just more dynamism to the poses along with some details. Most Beastmen stuff holds up pretty well compared to other armies but the current ones are a bit too "chaos giant with a bulls head" and not enough "gor". Which i feel is the important part. These are giant gors, not giants that look like gors.

>>96797053
Nothing wrong with women in a Chaos horde. That's pretty much a Conan-type society. If she's strong enough, they respect her.
In Bretonia, on the other hand...

>>96797233
Helf spears and bows are horrid and need a redo.

>>96797238
To be fair, according to Tome of Corruption norscans are only slightly less comically sexist than Bretonnians.

>>96797317
I don't think the women are the problem in chaos warbands. it's abudance of them and clearly dyke-ish vibe (haircuts etc.) that scream "we need NO MAN".
One Frydaal is ok-ish. 20 of them is not.

>>96797317
Cimmeria in the Hyborean Age was still pretty male-dominated. You didn't expect to see Women fighting outside of defending for their homes.
Conan's mother giving birth to him on the battlefield is a rare exception.

>>96797317
lmao shut the fuck up

>>96797376
Please don't post AOS stuff here anon

>>96797317
The issue isnt that the Aos one is a woman, its that shes a fatass.

The "female barbarian" archetype fits and is fine, but its drawing from the likes of red sonja and belit, its a heroic archetype in the same way the overmuscled barbarian is. It doesent work if shes a tub of lard (even if you go with the "its actually a strongman physique!" defense).
esn't
That sort of physique do REALLY work for the heroic barbarian archetype either, since theyre based on the more heroic vision of strength (like conan). So they should have the bodybuilder look rather than the strongman look. (or be properly morbidly obese, play into the vile and disgusting henchman look).

Now, you COULD go for a more "realistic" look, which is what the new marauders are, but then its harder to justify things on the basis of heroic concepts.

>>96796002
>they deleted this post

>>96797366
No, all female chaos marauder army sounds based as fuck. Just a horde of chaos !amazons wearing bikini chainmail and shit.

>>96797233
High Elf range looks dated as fuck, and not in a charming way

So GW just completely forgot who their audience is, right? We wanted to buy and play with old models, not buy these overdesigned, size creeped AOS barbarians.

>Bretonnians get female knights because corporate mandated gender ratios
>Chaos Marauders are all male
Huh?

>>96795605
It would certainly work for that. I feel obliged to say that you can play better on stepped pyramids though. Sloped walls mean it's just impassable terrain.
>GW scenery for inspiration and reference

>>96797441
You say that but you're crying because you didn't do exactly that and now they may be OOP as the new ones come out?

>>96797435
High elf spearman to the quality of the dark elf ones would be nice.

>>96797408
Imagine seeing such an all-you-can-rape buffet like that pretending it can raid any village with men in it.
There would be so many men banding together just to find those lmao

>>96797467
>all-you-can-rape buffet
Yes anon, its a chaos army, its what they do.

Militia kit update my lord......... MY LORD PLEASE NEW FREE COMPANY BOX MY LORD

>>96797470
lmao you're right, they wouldn't even make it out in the field, they'd be raped to death by their own army before they could even attempt at marauding anything

>>96795897
I think the heads are too small. That makes them look kind of gangly and off.

>>96797366
I just looked at the Slaves to Darkness page on the website and counted 6 women models, not 20.

Also the men models outnumbered those 6 women by like 4:1 or 5:1 or better.

>>96797408
Such "warband" in Norsca would be raped into oblivion by neighbor normal tribes. And in Chaos Wastes, where might makes right, holy fuck. Yes, there were female chaos warriors in the lore, but those women usually had tragic story and were fuelled by pure rage, desire of revenge and FUCKLOAD of chaos gifts (including chaos armor that was fused with their skin) that were making them equal to men - if not in strenght, then in speed, agility and magic weapons.

>>96797458
Lol, this. Anyone who wanted old models had plenty of time to buy them.

I think they would rape you.

>>96797481
why would you want that? Its the best bit kit gw has ever produced.

>>96797481
That would unironically sell gangbusters - but GW doesn't do single kits (unless it's heroes/lords). They need to come up with 4 or 5 new units for Empire to release besides Militia.

>even GW's production has tax units

>>96797481
I wouldn't trust modern-day GW to not fuck up a new Miltia Kit in 2025

I understand they had to remake the marauders but the current horsemen still look good. I know they remade them to match the new on-foot guys but it's a shame

>>96797527
>>96797530
I think the kit is really showing its age. Hopefully the inevitable dogs of war update comes with interchangeable with the militia kit. That way both you and me can co-exist.

>>96796841
no

>>96797534
They're a little skinny, but I like the heads and banner.

>>96795643
>>96795654
Dunno. Not impressed. They somehow look more generic than the old ones. Too busy to even see what is going, really. Feels like early 2000s generic videogame barbarian.

To be fair:
>>96795693
These are pretty plain, but at least you can see what is going on. Even at the time they weren't great models. Same problem the Catachans had: Doing nekkid bodies as multipart kit is hard if you want it to look natural.
>>96795698
These are still great.

I don't know. Even compared to all the half naked barbarian chaos guys they did for AoS this looks completely out of place.
Expected something more along the lines of
>pic related
Just with more conservative poses to rank them up.

What could ruin a new free company militia box? Empire femheads? That's not too bad.

>>96797572
Besides Conan, these suck.

>>96797574
The lack of options.

>>96795654
>>96795671
NO MOHAWK?

>>96795754
You gave yourself the answer. Just buy mongolians. If you are worried about the scale use 3d printed ones. The listing for these says "print at 110% scale to be compatible with Warhammer stuff"

>>96797238
I can’t really find a rhyme or reason to it either
>have “good” faction
>randomly give the new foot knights female heads and shit fuck the factions lore for current day politics
Oh I guess the good guys get to have the writers and designers politics
>closest thing we have to a head of chaos’s personality is being a cunt and getting cock blocked by weather
Oh I guess it’s diverse fantasy now
>only female sculpt in the entire range

All I can thing is GW is doing a dogshit job actually reigning it’s designers and artist in so they are just doing whatever the fuck they want. To the result of half the ranges are how many women, fats, and ugly sculpts can be shit out and the other half just trying to make cool minis.
As an example the 2025 space marine releases
>terminator update that should have dropped years ago
>bad upgrade sets because fuck
>mixed bag quality named characters some of which did not need updated
>a monopose drop pod on a tactical rock

>>96797574
Lack of options is a big one, but generally I dont want them to remove or really update humans. Wood elves themselves havent gotten anything for petes sake.

>>96796436
I thought Marauders were meant to be better than Warriors in 6th edition. What with being chealer and all that.

>>96795827
it's gonna be a plastic kit with one tent for 50 bucks a pop.

In all seriousness just look at old WD articles. There were articles for making stuff like this for Ogre Kingdoms, Kroot, and Orcs and Goblins on several occasions. Ogre Kingdoms specifically had the layered leather/pelt thing.

>>96796087
>Also Mammoth soon?
You are 20 years too late for that. Recasters keep the dream alive though.

We shall have Halflings that aren't kidnapped Bloodbowl minis within my immediate lifetime.

>>96797632
There's a chance GW does what they did with the recent MEBG Rohan book, which included an entire hobby section about making terrain and kitbashing models

>>96797445
Woke is dead. TOW got grazed by the implosion, but things will continue is a more based direction.

>>96797640
you're gonna get a monkeys paw wish

>>96797445
It is an English company.

>>96797659
How could you monkeys paw such a harmless request?

>>96797238
>good faction
Diversity and women
>evil faction
white men

There you go.

>>96797582
Fair opinion to have, but this is clearly closer to an updated sculpt of a classic chaos marauder than the new ones.

>>96797640
At this point I consider it a guarantee we see dogs of war at least as a concept come back.
>40k has kill team half used as a way to make unique new units half as a way to update old units
>AoS has warcry where the design team either cooks or shits in its hand

Probably not going to get it’s own spin off game, but random units of off the cuff shit and deep cuts as special units or mercs armies can take is a layup

>>96797640
Bro. Just look at the Northstar listing for Oathmark Hobbits. That range if from Mark Copplestone, and old school GW sculptor.

>>96797693
I'm sorry, but I have already deemed those to be soulless. The Vae Victis ones are alright though, so I might pick those up.

>>96797702
>Copplestone
>soulless
That doesn't compute for me. But if you like the whimsical Blood Bowl stuff check out Warp Miniatures too.

>>96797629
Better, perhaps. But better than what many consider to be the worst unit in the mortal section of the army book does not a good unit make.

>>96797238
It's because Chaos is based

>>96797441
erm akhchually I want old warhammer but with cool new models, so the new marauders are exactly my jam

>>96797238
>Add women to new Bretonnian units
it's one (1) optional head, which is suposed to be for the standart bearer (since Joan of Arc was one)

>>96797317
Brother this is /wfg if you even suggest there should be female models in their muscle man wargame you’ll get chased out.

>>96797258
>PERRYS

>>96797760
Not much muscle in the new marauders

>>96797550
unpossible, the new 32mm standard is not the old 28mm standard, new arms and legs would be too long on the old kit

>>96797780
They are, they’re just wearing winter clothes instead of BDSM gear now.

What's the cretin malfunctioning over now?

>>96797768
Yes, now fuck off back to /hwg/

>>96797688
Dogs of War as a soup faction with some specialty units seems like such an obvious thing to do. It’s been noted before that they already have a “hidden” tag on the Warhammer site, would be insane for something to not happen with them.

>>96797837
They’re gauging interest with the new Empire army rules

>>96797837
I wouldn’t even bother trying to tie them into a soup faction.
I would just start releasing faction specific and generic merc units and throw out PDFs for their rules every time a new unit comes out

>>96797502
anon u know theres alot of diffrent horse breeds and they all looks diffrent? for exampe compare Appaloosa to Polish Coldblood or smthing

>>96797238
Bretonian --> civilization, order, diversity, good
Marauders --> primitive, chaos, all white man, evil

The same with Cathay. You can see they are sigmarifing our game. The message is pretty clear.

>>96797910
and yet they're guided by a woman in the next arcane journal

>>96797910
>Complains there’s not enough white men in the game
>Complains there’s now too many white men in the game

>>96797888
Ofcourse he doesn't

>>96797938
>makes asinine observation

>>96797031
I have heard nothing of Fimir. I have heard the trumpeting of Mammoths in the distance.

TOWCHADS I don't know how much more winning I can take. If we get a few more wins I might get tired of winning. What a good day.

>>96798155
Feels good to not be a bitter fakegrog.

Is it just a bad idea to start with a legacy army? Are they just going to keep updating the main armies over and over ad infinitum and leave the legacy ones in the dust?

>>96797888
Of course the horse to rest of body ratio is significantly less off with these examples than the pinheaded retardhorse.

Posting minis.

>>96798155
When we finally get bretonnian vampires in TOW it will be the win that kills me

>>96797910
>You can see they are sigmarifing our game.
But AoS chaos is infamously full of diversity. You're making literally no sense. It really seems like there's nothing that could be done to please you.

>>96797715
These look great! Thanks a lot man.

>>96798213
Such is the mind of the Grog

>>96798199
AVERLAAAANDDDD

>>96798213
Just FYI the two posts below are both perrynigger trying to play both sides and stir shit. Just ignore him and celebrate the win today.

>>96797910
>>96798252

>>96798287
>perry
>aos trolls
>grogs
Which one is it really?

>>96798287
There is no win, GW has firmly come down on “whitey evil”

>>96798199
Looks great, why is Averland so popular with anons?

>>96798213
Because grognards have no brain, they hate. They hate new stuffs. They hate Cathay, they hate when others get new stuff, they hate when TOW dont gets new stuff, they hate when a tiny thing is not like it was in WHF, they hate plastic, they hate details, they hate centerpieces, they hate women, blacks, etc.
At this point i dont think they even play, i think they just spam their retarded and bitter opinions eveywhere, trying to make people think they are majority or important or fight

>>96798335
They can relate to Marius Leitdorf

>>96798287
What is a perry?

Reminder ignore perrynigger trying to play both sides. He isn't very intelligent and doesn't seem to understand that he has a distinct writing style that outs him.

>>96798360
Actual question, is using historical figures a big “don’t do” for Old World?

I guess I’m Perry anon

>>96798374
Don't think so, but they will definitely stand out unless you do some extensive kitbashing or sculpting. Except for oriental shit, I guess. They are pretty generic.

>>96798374
>>96798389
Yeah basically this. You'd have to do some sculpting at the least to make it a bit more warhammery.

>>96797938
Nuh uh. The thing is they are making the "full white guys" bad, but the "diverse" good. Except for Cathay, because chinese social points and money

Today’s controversy

The trifecta of Reikland, Middenland and Averland control Empire players. Their minions are the Stirlanders, Nulners and Hochlanders. Real TASTEFVL undergrounders play Ostermarkers, Bogenhafers, Wissenlanders, Sollanders or Ostlanders.

>>96798338
We need a better word than grogs, because a lot of these types weren't even around for the old stuff. They're like valor-stealing aspirational wannabe grogs, caught up in the grievance/victim mindset of American conservatives.

I propose "fraudgnards" but it may need workshopping.

I assume this will be prices like a battalion. Assuming the marauders being new minis will be sold with 20 in a box, you have 3 kits in there like every other battalion. So probably the same price point?

>>96798199
He will lead a Waaagh soon. Will never forget I more or less had a potential win in the bag. My Warboss duelling the Saurus hero on Carnosaur. 3 wounds caused, Saurus only had 1 wound left, Talisman of protection. Triple 6....

>>96798454
Fauxnards
Gonads

>>96797606

Love these guys.

>>96796174
>We don't talk about the foot knights
It does feel odd looking at them side by side

What do we think of Wissenland?

>>96798504
I think even GW knows the foot knights look like shit. If any kit needs to be replaced within a few years it's this one.

>>96798504

I don't really like that tusk/horn on the shoulder of the marauder.

>>96798504
>foot knights
Who?

>>96798534

I think he meant these guys.

>>96798454
Yeh, i think the same.
"Fraudgnards" doesnt sound bad

>>96798287
>no (You)s
Wrong again.

>>96797618
I think you're on to something with gw's designers not really being in contact with each other. Like pointed out above marauders and foot knights don't even look like they're from the same game.
But to give a more topical example, the recent aos mainline chorf release didn't have a single dark skinned model afaik, but the underworld sidegame has two out of the for models paintsd black. Does feel like they're not really in sync. At least there you can excuse it somewhat sincd mainline aos and underworlds are presumably two different studios

>>96798360
And what exactly is my "writing style," retard. This guy >>96798287 also thought he could tell if it's me or not, and he was wrong on every count.

>>96797510
Anon do you KNOW how chaos gifts work? You get them for killing shit, the people who had more gifts killed more shit. Its a rich get richer system, if someone (like say Valkia, because thats basically the most prominent example) has all that favor its because she out-performed everyone else in the general vicinity.

>>96798504
I think it's clear that the design direction has shifted for TOW. The marauder designs are less, idk how to say it, cartooney? While the marauders look like men who live in a frozen shithole covered in furs and animal parts.

>>96798454
a newfag that pretends to be an oldfag is a transgrog

>>96798707
How can you live in frozen hellhole and turn out black?

>>96798707
I like that they're not Vermintide or Total War copies. A lot more viking in there.

>>96798723
Frostbite everywhere

>>96797675
>>96797910
So by GW logic; the Impeirum is the good guy or 40K ?

>>96798724
>Viking
Circle even a single detail on the new models that is taken from Vikings, anon. I'll wait

>>96798504
it's because the foot knights are still built with the idea that all bits are to be compatible with all bodies, which is why the gorgets are unreasonably large, for example

the marauders follow the more modern kits design philosophy pf providing 2 builds per body and that's it
even if it seems they were a bit more clever here and added both flails-heads and axe-heads for the two handed weapons and there might be a bit more compatibility of shields or hand weapons across arms

Marauders are pretty cool. In the Sigvald novel, they make a good account of themselves, facing a full fledged Khorne Warrior warband. They lose a lot of men but there are so many, they kill a good few chaos knights in melee.

>>96798759
How about you circle in on getting off my dick. They got roundshields, fun horned helmets, plenty of skulls and chainmail under big cloaks. Is that enough for you chud?

>>96798784
Not a single one of those things is Viking

>>96798491
Hey, these DO look cool! Nice!

>>96797445
Bretonnia TOW was made before USAID was cutoff.
You may thanks Bigballs.

>>96798723
he rolled black skin on the mutations table

he was probably dumb enough to pray to the raven during the day of the crow, baka senpai

>>96798797
I kneel

>>96797554
not gonna lie, that looks quite bad
not sure what's your point that's not even highlighted the same way

>>96798759
>chainmail

Those Vikings would be the absolute top tier warriors, far from the regular joe wjo could barely afford a helmet.

>>96798707
>The marauder designs are less, idk how to say it, cartooney?
Hell no. The old ones were a bit goofy, but bodybuilder with kitsch viking helmet is way less cartoony that the new ones. Why the fuck would you carry 60lbs of carcass around on your person at any given time that is loaded on one shoulder? GW went way beyond cartoony on the new models. They are Rob Liefield levels of detail clutter, with the difference that you don't just look at it but you have to paint all of that shit as well. Fuck that.

>>96798697
>You get them for killing shit, the people who had more gifts killed more shit.
Sometimes the gods just fuck with people though. That's how Chaos Spawns happen.

>Guy at my locals shows up to every game night
>Destroys everyone with beasts of chaos
>Brings no books
>Has photographic memory for everything, even other armies
>Finishes his move in seconds, looking over the other player to the wall behind them the whole time
>Every time he wins he makes horns with his fingers and makes a wierd howling goat noise
>He comes alone
>Seems monstrously autistic
>Today walked past him in Tim Hortons surrounded by really hot asian woman all crowded around him laughing
>Hes acting normally and rizzing them up.

I dont get it. Is Warhammer the pressure outlet he needs to keep it under the radar elsewhere? or did i just see his twin brother?

>>96798750
Well it's obviously not Chaos. And all the aliens want to kill humanity off, so by default yes.

>>96798850
Chaos spawn happen when the mutations given exceed the ability of the person to withstand them (or when the gods actively decide to break someone.

Its true that there are people who just "get" favor for basically no reason (vilitch and sigvald both come to mind, both became chaos champions by being amusing rather than killing people) but theyre the extreme rarity.

Just an FYI, these "Reinforcement" boxes are limited. Seems to be the term for the TOW FOMO releases.

>>96798838
Looks like the Jarl and his Bannerman. The other guys are pulling the boat to shore.

>>96798870
whats a reinforcement box?

>>96798840
>Why the fuck would you carry 60lbs of carcass around on your person at any given time that is loaded on one shoulder?
It shows you're dead 'ard.

>>96798504
Anyone else kind of concerned that these guys might look weird next to chaos warriors? They look like they're almost as big, if not bigger.

>>96797275
Have a (you), because I enjoy Fimir rapey too.

>>96798853
He made a deal with the devil

>>96798875
Things like the new Marauder box.

>>96798875
It's what they called the big Marauder Box they announced today. They'll sell the foot and mounted ones separately, but first they'll come in a big limited box that gives you 40 foot soldiers and 10 cav for a moderate discount.

Moderate discount of 5 dollars on a 120 dollar box.

>>96798853
I think you might be the autistic one if you cannot grasp that people act differently in various social situations. Not saying that to start shit, but you may need to do some self-reflection there.

>>96798870
So it's basically just a limited time bundle deal with presumably a small discount over buying them individually. A good thing for people who want them provided they can get one before scalpers

>>96798853
Warhammer allows people to unwind from social conventions and just enjoy. Outside of the few WAACers, 99% of my games are a buncha old and chill guys.

>>96798155
I play Skaven

>>96798915
It's surprisingly usually a decent discount, like buying a Battalion Box instead of the stuff individual for chaos saves you like 70 dollars.

>>96798944
Maybe I'm too harsh. The Empire box saved me tons.

>>96798925
Nta but I don't think going full nonverbal autist falls under normal code switching

>>96795643
>>96795693
I can see GW setting this release as the new 'Norscan standard,' while leaving the old bare torso + straps look as more of a Kurgan style. Not that they'd actually bother to make two different model lines for the same units.

>>96798697
They work like that with chaos CHAMPIONS - but that's one of the reasons why chaos gods grant gifts. They are CHAOTIC. They give gifts for many reasons and sometimes without any. Since we are talking about chaos female chaos warriors, let me remind you Justine - a chaos champion of Khorne. Her life was spared and got her first gifts (including a fucking chaos armor) only because a daemon prince really liked her hatred and desire of revenge towards a guy that raped her. She didn't kill anybody before she became a fully fledged chaos warrior. Chaos gods are CHAOTIC - they LITERALLY don't need any reason to grant gifts.

PS. Three ready, one to go.

>>96798862
>theyre the extreme rarity
Like, dunno, female chaos champions?

>>96798969
I mean...he's not there to entertain that Anon. Maybe he was just busy thinking about stuff? If he's got a thing about remembering stuff and crunching numbers in his head like described, that seems plausible.