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Remember that Elementals are for free.

please help btg

>>96853710 (OP)
How very spooky.

>>96853795
>Make sign that says free XXXL dresses
>Build giant set of doors that only open inward
>Build a second set of tiny doors that only open outward
Free elemental wife generator

>>96854391
pelvis training arc has begun

>>96851594
>Hamilcar-class DropShip
>So, in a nutshell, the issues are that it doesn't carry a lot of fuel, the craft's weapons array isn't the best (and is primarily forward facing), and it doesn't have enough armor.
How feasible would it be as a refit project for mydudes' merc company if I converted the fighter bays?

>>96854391
How do we know it will be only female elementals that appear to claim the dresses? Clan Jade Falcon does exist you know?

>>96854418
Not as expensive as you might think. Generally its the weapon systems that drastically increase the prices of dropships more than anything.

>>96854439
Clan Jade Falcon Aerospace Phenotypes

>>96853765
>https://battletech.com/playtest-battletech/
Did CGL shit the bed again? Or are they panicking right now trying to delete the most egregious changes after the backlash they've gotten from everything released thus far?

>>96854652
I don't see why they'd panic given that feedback is the point. If all they get is negative feedback, then they just don't push those changes to the new book.

>>96854082
I got you senpai.

>>96854652
>Did CGL shit the bed
Have they ever? The models look good and they are releasing things people like for the most part.
>inb4 Battletech Gothic
People like kitbashing these at the very least so it wasn't a flop and even if it was all the other releases are still solid.

Aside from the Black Hawk KU and Battle Cobra any other IS mechs that a. ape clan mechs and b. share the name? I read empire aflames again and it got me wondering because I wanted to paint up a TSDF lance.
Also this feels more like guesswork since the book doesn't go too in depth but what is unit availability like in EA? The supremacy controls tikinov, irian and hesperus, that's a lot of faction specific factories. And the axman too, how did that one come about? Considering it needed things from the lyran davion and liao parts of the fedcom which doesn't exist.

>>96854667
I wish I could be as hopeful as you.

>>96854767
Unless they announce that a book with the new core rules is coming out before March, they've got time to pivot away from whatever doesn't work.

>>96853795
That's not a word of really apply to any Clanner.

>>96854418
It's a super special-purpose weirdo DropShip that's uncommon and expensive.

Just get a fucking Union.

>>96854803
I demand a batchall for access to all the Elemental musclegirl mating rights in your Galaxy
Which forces will you bid?

>>96854738
While I do agree with everything with Catalyst did I think the models are pretty neat. Though it is a hard sell to spend 100 dollars but from what I've been seeing that its been selling pretty decently so far. Salvage boxes specifically those things are out of stock everywhere.

>>96854652
Did they get much backlash? I know the changes to the torso were controversial but it seems like almost everything else was taken fairly positively? Especially all the rule changes regarding various equipment.
Even /btg/ seemed pretty ok with it all, and we're not shy about shitting on CGL.

>>96854652
>>96854855
I saw more people saying "but I thought battletech was supposed to never change?" than I saw anyone actually having problems with what they changed.

is the ghosts and goblins megamek match still happening?

>>96854882
I see a lot of that too, but it was never true, Battletech changes plenty. Even within each "edition", there are changes. Different printings of Total Warfare have stripped and added entire rules, and drastically changed how other rules function. Some of the playtest rules aren't even new, they were just changed decades ago and are being tentatively brought back.

What Battletech doesn't do is completely change the underlying core, almost nothing changes that would invalidate an old record sheet. Even the one change that they've been teasing as potentially happening is to remove an obscure piece of clan equipment that's just two other pieces of equipment put together because it's redundant. But that's not the first time record sheets have changed. It's rare and they keep it that way for a good reason, but it has happened now and then. Someone who hasn't played Battletech for two or three core book replacements will still recognize most of the game, but the details of individual rules will be different.

>>96854882
I don't think the proposed movement rules were that controversial, but the side hits and ammo explosion have not been popular (with exceptions of course) last time I checked the playtest forum threads.
>>96854816
Look I'm a Merc, so I'm not the right person to ask this, but from what I've learned in the "Know Your Adversary" training holovids command supplied us with wouldn't clanners be disgusted by "freebirth" mating rights?

>>96854940
In the original Battledroids all the heat sinks occupied a critical slot that was changed when the 1st edition of Battletech came out.

Rule changes have always been a thing, the main difference between Battletech and Warhammer is that those rule changes don't remove figures from the game, just the Eras.

>>96853466
Thug.

>>96854951
I'm in favor of the ammo explosion caps, and not in favor of the side table delete.

How rare are Seeker dropships? Also at what point does a merc unit having an overlord seem feasible to save docking collar requirements instead of just stacking up unions?

>>96854994
The Thug represents Indian culture.

Or in BattleTech, maybe Capellan.

>>96854951
>clanners be disgusted by "freebirth" mating rights?
normally but even a trueborn warrior can develop a weakness for musclegirls a sad fact really...
but that shit grips tighter than the hand actuator on a Hatchetman

>>96855071
>How rare are Seeker dropships?

Not. They're one of the most common DropShips in the Inner Sphere.

>Also at what point does a merc unit having an overlord seem feasible to save docking collar requirements instead of just stacking up unions?

No point. They're very rare in private hands.

>>96855075
>Or in BattleTech, maybe Capellan
The FedSuns was made in part with a Hindu state that I believe became the Capellan March.

HONOR THE DRAGON or something i dunno lol

>>96854721
I lost my marauder :c

>>96855114
There's Hindu states all around the Rimward side of the Inner Sphere. The United Hindu collective and Principality of Regulus show up on maps, but the Capellans have the literal actual Thuggee cult that the word thug is derived from. They had a real Liao for a while.

>>96855239
>be davion propagandists
>

>>96855168
>My Dragon Can't Be This Cute?!

>>96855075
Fwiw, the biggest users of the Thug were the ComGuards and the Draconis Combine, I think.

Hey fellas.
What could I do to make an Assassin more Comstar/Word of Blake-y?

>>96855655
poppers and finishing inside

>>96855670
I said an Assassin, not the Blakist chick

>>96855655
It will at least need a c3i and a small cockpit.

>>96855168
>>96855550

>>96855655
C3i, XL Gyro, iJJ, MML, pulse lasers.

First mech painted. What should I do to improve?
>fucking coffee stains I know

>>96855886
>>96855891
Coffee stains for sure. The easy way to get rid of those is to go over the areas again with the color you used before the wash, avoiding the deep recesses. Then an edge highlight that's one shade lighter and it's table ready.

>>96855891
I think it looks pretty good! You could make it look cleaner or dirtier or add weathering or battle damage?

What's your heart telling you?

>>96855886
>>96855891
Hey Anon, I think you did pretty fucking great, for tabletop mini's that's fantastic.

The only thing I think i'd suggest would be 'highlight colours' and by that I mean putting on details in colours that work well with your base. IE: Yellow unit insignia's, maybe some mud and shit around the lower limbs that suits your base. Other than those (very minor) details I'd be quite proud of that and you should be too.

Well done mate. I'd love to see more.

Had the most fun I've had in a game of BT in a while. Jade Falcons vs ComGuards, I was the Falcons. I had a Summoner Prime, Mad Dog Prime, Uller B, Night Gyr Prime, and Gargoyle C. Comguards brought a Highlander, Longbow, Clint, Archer, Black Knight, and Marauder, pretty much all the clanbuster versions except the Highlander was the introtech one.

First few turns of the game were mostly jockeying for position, but I realized that even though I had better long range weapons, the ComGuards just had more raw firepower. I sent my Uller up along the runway to the side of the building, and the Comguards sent the Black Knight to intercept, but I used the Uller's speed to pull back and bring it in with the Gargoyle, leaving the Black Knight out of position. That was my big gambit and it paid off as I dived on the Highlander with everyone, eventually coring it with the Ultra 10 on the Uller. From then on it was a slugfest, and while I had less armor, the better weapons told over time. Very much a back and forth battle, though. My Gargoyle pilot took five(!) pilot hits in a single round and blacked out, then got his engine stomped on next turn, I cored the Highlander, my Summoner lost most of its weapons but stayed effective, and eventually the final result was me having a mostly intact Night Gyr and Uller, a crippled Summoner and Vulture, and an engine killed Gargoyle, while in the final turn the Comguards went from a Marauder, Black Knight, and Archer to only the Archer being alive.

>>96856149
Very nice man. Always fun for clanners to slug it out.
How's the kitfox?

>>96856205
The B packs a surprising punch, most of them do, but they compensate by not having either the armor or the speed to really stay alive. The Kit Fox is only good in a situation where there's a bigger mech the opponent is more scared of that has a lower TMM. So it pairs well with the many 5/8 heavies.

>>96854816
I play Clans because my ideal fantasy is being dominated entirely by my Star Commander. Being wholly subservient to my partner while being treated like property is my ideal relationship.

>>96855001
Absolutely not a fan of the side table removal. I think the ammo explosion cap is too low personally.
I wish there was an easy way just to cap the explosions from MG ammo. That's the worst example.

>>96855001
I'm in favor of not changing the rules at all, and killing everyone at CGL who think this is a good idea and also everyone who's enabled CGL to try this by helping them playtest the changes. Battletech doesn't change. Period. I'm not going to allow progressives to gain a foothold on my game and ruin it like they've ruined everything else.

>>96856506
I get the impression from discussions I've seen that CGL abandoned the side table change after opinions turned negative over time.

>>96856518
I'm in favor of changing all the rules and killing everyone at FASA who disagrees. So there.

>>96856506
Ammo bins damage should be calculated off round size. Yeah its deliberate ambiguity involving caliber but MG and AC2 and 5 should get the new one. 10 and 20 keep the old.

>>96856571
I don't think there's much value in ammo explosion calculations where almost all practical results remove every affected pip and plenty to spare. Until recently the calculation might as well have been "lol, just shred your sheet unless it's turn fifteen+, lmao". It'd save time.

>>96856506
I still want to push my idea of ammo explosions blowing up to a cap per turn, but you gotta roll to see if the cook off is put out by your fire suppression

>>96856149
great looking table and what a fun battle!

Rolled 303, 350 = 653 (2d1000)

>>96836368
Alright Ghosts!

Rolled 2, 4, 1, 3 = 10 (4d6)

>>96856628
come on skills!

Rolled 6, 6, 2, 1 = 15 (4d6)

>>96856634
rerolling

>>96856628
>>96856634
>>96856638
Declan “Mystic” Bellamy 3/4
SHD-2H Shadow Hawk

Does no one sell a good Powerman model?

Is it better to have two mechs with one PPC each or two mechs with an LRM10 and AC5 each? Or is it better to have one of each so one can hole punch and the other can crit seek?

>>96836368

Ghosts (Comstar)
WVE-5N Wyvern Max "Jumpman" Hassan 4/6
MCY-99 Mercury Colleen O'Clery 3/4
DV-6M Dervish Khamsin 3/4
HBK-4G Hunchback Wilhelm "Kaiser" Billings 4/6
KTO-19 Kintaro Logan Carmichael 4/4
MON-66 Mongoose Cristobal Forsyth-Templeton 3/5
GRF-2N Griffin Giuseppe Bartolo 4/5
MON-66 Mongoose Heather Mason 4/6
SHD-2H Shadow Hawk Declan “Mystic” Bellamy 3/4

(3 slots left)

Ghouls (Pirates)
WSP-1A Wasp Donald Butler Holdfast 4/5
CN9-A Centurion 'Mad' Bob Cutler 4/4
Vedette Lonnie Ferguson 3/4
TBT-5N (The Wild Ride) Trebuchet Bones "Bones" Boneson.4/4
Vedette Honesty “Honey” Wallace 3/4
BJ-1 Blackjack Willie Snakebeard.4/4
WHM-6R Warhammer Bone-biter 4/5
ZEU-6S Zeus Beatrice "Swamp Hag" Moreau 3/4

(4 slots left)

Rolled 397, 702 = 1099 (2d1000)

>>96856943
Ghouls need more vehicles.

Rolled 1, 3, 5, 1 = 10 (4d6)

>>96856954
Let’s see how capable a pirate I am …

>>96856891
Two Griffins

Rolled 4, 2, 4, 1 = 11 (4d6)

>>96856960
Let’s try it again.

>>96856963
but that's not drac enough

The quirks system needs to be more in depth! Give mechs unique buffs or nerfs that are tied to the mech itself. Give manufacturers quirks as well! Have their weapons, armor and equipment have differences! Add the fluff to the game!

>>96856968
Two Kuritahawks

>>96856954
OK, not all that much better.
Goblin 3/5 Blake ‘Foggy’ Bottin

>>96856360
um, thats a first...
If I ever make Star commander i'll be sure to keep you in mind

>>96856360
Faggot

>>96856972
Playing with quirks is gay and retarded.

>>96857265
No u!

>>96856972
The computer game actually does this, with different weapon tiers with different buffs being attributed to different companies. GM autocannons are apparently the shittiest.

>quirks
Wow, you're telling me one mech gets "rapist weapons" and the other mech gets "anal leakage"? I wonder what interesting things this will add to the game!

>>96857396
>Mech A, in the lore is insanely durable with its fancy named, top of the line armor and hard hitting weapons!
>Mech B, is supposed to to shit
>They both play the same, have the same armor rating and weapons hit for the same damage
>This is somehow not an issue

>>96855886
>>96855891
That’s pretty good for a first go at it. I’d say hit it with some edge highlights or maybe a little drybrush and you’d be good to go.

It’s kinda hard to see in this pic but I’d also recommend giving the cockpits a lot of attention, with a color that’s contrasting your base coat that much you’ll want to make sure the edges are crisp and you have a nice jeweling effect on there since the cockpit will naturally draw a lot of eyes and stand out a lot. On something like a king crab it can be hard with all the little windows, but on most mechs you’ll have enough space to work with.

>>96856972
>The quirks system needs to be more in depth! Give mechs unique buffs or nerfs that are tied to the mech itself.
I agree since since so many mech entries have the lore for the mechs be that they're supposed to be improved designs that are replacing old inferior designs but when you actually compare the tonnage and movement profiles there's little difference and you have to wonder why so much effort went into creating a whole new mech instead of just creating a different variant of an existing design. A more in depth quirk system would better represent the actual setting.

>>96857265
I like using quirks in a campaign because they make different chassis more distinct. That way even with customization every mech of same weight doesn't just end up becoming interchangeable, and gives the players a reason to try to acquire some mechs that have notably good traits.

Actually looking at lore entries ive got to ask who really thinks that the Linebacker is an good replacement for the "slow" Timber Wolf?

When they say 'Unit X is stationed at Planet Y in year 3XXX' on Military Deployment section, is it that the entire regiment/battalion/etc is stationed their? All of them?

>>96857638
Because BT is afraid of actually advancing it's tech. So new mechs are better because...reasons!

>>96857673
Well the original plan for the Timeskip to 3250 was going to have new superior tech that would be the standard that the game mechanics are based around but then everyone got mad about everything about the timeskip so that's not happening.

>>96857476
Cool concept, but do you see any other result than people simply choosing not to use mech B? A good idea isn't worth bad results.

>>96857754
Should have rolled better to get mech A instead of ending up with B.

>>96856966
Seriously, fuck off, you've been spamming this shit for 3 or 4 fucking days now, this retarded bullshit shouldn't even take you 10 minutes.

On the Capellan Confedeation being the one Successor State to use most of the UrbanMechs that survived the 1st Star League's collapse, how exactly were the Capellans able to replenish any lost UrbanMechs whenever they lost worlds in combat? I mean, given that Orguss Industries was among the casualties of the Second Succession War (and that it was the Free Worlds League that annexed it) and that there wouldn't be another factory that built UrbanMechs in the Inner Sphere for almost another 173+ years (and in a system the Federated Suns annexed/"liberated" in between 2864 and 3010 no less since the aforementioned factory that built UrbanMechs for the FedSuns was Hanse Davion's idea), how would the Capellans replace lost UrbanMechs prior to them having their own factory for UrbanMechs (the Hellespont factory in Betelguese wouldn't be built until the late 3060s)?

>>96857754
The mech makers in BT are stupid and make bad mechs on purpose. It doesn't take 1k years to figure out that medium lasers are basically the best weapon available. There is a reason why the savanna master is so broken. Cheap medium laser dispensers wreck anything short of a nuclear shelter.
>b-but the range!
Just go faster, which you can with only medium lasers strapped to the largest engine you dare fit into your mech.

>>96857687
They keep pushing ilclan but they forget a lot of fags hate the clans. About the only way they could go at this stage is probably a full reboot and that would be a complete shitshow.

>>96858449
Remember CGL is a LICENSEE and not an OWNER.
They are temporary and just like wizkids we will move past them and continue to play the game as it already existed.

>>96858466
Stagnation brings death.

>>96858449
>They keep pushing ilclan but they forget a lot of fags hate the clans.
They could always end up making it the last hurrah for the clans, but as a IS player myself even I realize the Clans as being the only uniquely BattleTech faction(s) in the game from a time when FASA was trying to make a truly western sci-fi mecha game and not tanks with legs if he madmax. So just wiping them out wouldn't work either.

>>96856972
The main function of the quirk system is to make Cappie and Drac mechs worse, really.

>>96858520
>Clans as being the only uniquely BattleTech faction
They were pretty much ripped off of Robot Jox which mean isn't surprising since had the same writer and all?

>>96858449
>>96858520
My feeling is that the Clans should be kicked out of the Inner Sphere and essentially be treated like pirates where they just do raids on the Inner Sphere and each other. That way they're not major factions anymore but still have some small relevance.

>>96858479
Tell that to international chess organizations.

Are Fighting Piranha's decal sheets worth the money and shipment overseas, or should I learn how to print my own?
Although I think you need specific sort of printer to start doing it in-house, I'd have to read up on it I do know it is doable.

>>96858590
Chess has has a million ways to play. Battletech doesnt.

>>96858590
They're constantly innovating new excuses to not do invasive cavity searches of all their competitors while also accusing each other of having remote controlled buttplugs.

>>96858624
>Shipping overseas
Even without this and I'd say work out a lot cheaper and practical to learn your own. Do a bit of research as there are quite a lot of basic printers that should be able to do vinyls these days.

>>96858626
Every possible combination of mechs in a lance vs every possible combination of opponent mechs in a lance is far more differentiation than any individual instance of the very old rules of chess, so no, you are wrong.

>The Periphery (1988)
>The Periphery, Second Edition (1996)
>Field Manual: Periphery (2001)
>Handbook: Major Periphery States (2009)
Picrel had the best cover art, but which was the best Periphery sourcebook overall?

>>96858646
Hmmm...medium laser spam > any Lance you field

>>96858098
They just that many urbies lying around

>>96858683
And the bongcloud opening < any Chess opening you may use.
Doesn't mean it doesn't count towards the total number of gamestates chess has.

>>96858683
>fields reflective armor
>has mobility to stay 10 hexes away
What now, cheeser?

>>96858825
Get closer since I have a good size engine in my mech.

>no levs yet

Life is suffering

>>96858671
Second edition has the fluff that makes for a rather fun and interesting Periphery campaign for those who are more RPG minded.

>>96858832
Good luck, I'm jumping 10 into heavy woods every turn.

>>96858872
I got to try levs last weekend. It was a lot of fun! Shame it isn't out yet, or I would have picked up a box set.

Well its up and looks like most of the leaks were true! I for one welcome our new Davion overlords!
https://battletech.com/playtest-battletech/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2025/10/BattleTech-Playtest-0300-Gear-Rules-10-22a.pdf

>>96859237
RACs get caseless but uacs don't? Wtf

>>96859237
Melee bros..We're saved

>>96859237
Skimmed it briefly as I'm "working" right now, but did they really buff C3? Or, rather, nerf ECM?
Unless I misread it in my haste, ECM doesn't shut off C3 networks anymore. Now it only halves its effectiveness. (The only consolation is that the attacker needs to have LOS to make the shot, which was already an accepted house rule with pretty much everyone I've ever played with.)
My fellow MechWarrior buddy who hates C3 with a passion is going to be furious.
>I for one welcome our Davion overlords
The buffs to ACs seem fine, nice little benefits that aren't too overwhelmingly powerful. I know some people were hoping for even more drastic buffs.
>>96859338
On the bright side UACs don't jam permanently anymore if you were unlucky to roll a 2 with it. They don't jam at all now.

>>96859237
Dracs are going to be eating good if that MRM buff goes through. Although, I wonder how they'd rework the Apollo FCS if it goes through. I'm guessing it'd be a Artemis system removing the -1 cluster?

Fleas > Locusts

>>96859237
They also dropped package 5. 4 won't be out for a couple weeks.
https://battletech.com/playtest-battletech/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2025/10/BattleTech-Playtest-0500-BFS-Aerospace-10-26a.pdf

>>96859505
Just refreshed the page and saw it. Downloaded in case they delete it.

>>96859525
They put it out early on purpose since it's a bigger package, apparently.

>>96859417
Don't worry they also nerfed c3. It is now 30% instead of 20% more BV for a c3 lance. C3 already was an iffy proposition bv wise, now it's definitely too expensive.

>>96859776
Can they build Kurita mechs awful enough to make them cheap enough to make C3 worth it? We don't know, but they'll be trying, that'S for sure.

>>96859776
Well, it makes C3 companies a lot cheaper, for anyone who actually plays at that scale.

>>96859799
Panther CM+3 Raptor Ds for 2636 (2855 with play test) bv is the cheapest c3 mech force currently

>>96859237
Now I want a Charger with a lance and shield.

>>96859776
>"BV changes are outside the scope of this test, however, and will be addressed
at a future date."

Immediately proceeds to adjust BV of C3

>>96859969
Could probably customize a 3K or 3Kr for it. Use the jump jets to reach optimal charging lanes and then dare the enemy to step out where they can be run over.

>>96859237
I'd rather the UACs just have the ability to unjam than no jam

Neat. Autocannons can eat 1 crit and still keep on firing.

>>96859547
I've been reading through parts of it. Apparently there is a full Aerospace rework coming.

>>96860102
I guess that balances out having one of the worst crit to weight ratios in the game.

>>96860057
But then the question is, what kind of shield? We can find the tonnage for any of them, but the small can be easily sandblasted (but can also just not be raised when sandblasty weapons are pointed at it), the medium reduces speed, and the large reduces speed and prevents jumps. Under current rules they keep the penalties even after being destroyed, but the playtest reverses that.

>Mechs have shields and melee weapons are actually worth using now
It only took them how many decades?

>>96860230
Shields were always alright. You can't just slap a medium or large one on any unit, but the small shield can be added to almost anything and be worth its two tons. The only real problem with a small shield is if you've got guns spread out all across your mech and need to be able to fire all of them at once. If your weapons are crowded on one side, a small shield on the other is nothing but good.

>>96856773
IWM sells one.

>>96859186
>>96858872
Don't make off topic posts.

>>96858057
What is your malfunction, asshole? Do you not realize there is a re-roll?

>>96860183
Wonder if this will extend to other units that have autocannons like tanks?

>>96860334
He thinks it's just one person doing the entire thing.

>>96860364
What a rube

Did Amaris's secret armies have access to royal grade equipment or did they only gain that after the coup?

>>96860364
Well we are clearly a hive mind :^)

>>96859237
Big fan of the AC changes honestly

>>96860356
Vehicles use the same weapons as mechs, so I don't see why their autocannons wouldn't also be able to eat a hit.

>>96860382
From Field Report 2765 it is strongly implied the Imperial Divisions are on par with SLDF Royals in skill and equipment but it doesn't outright confirm if they are the royal variants.
>>96860423
Based on vehicle crit rules it would imply a full weapon destruction.

>>96860457
Amaris had the connections needed for it, he was somewhere between the first and third most powerful man in the star league depending on how you look at things, the Rim Worlds was the only state allowed to fully garrison themselves with no SLDF presence. He could have easily arranged tech transfers.

>>96860501
True. In fact the said book does even outright say more or less that.

>>96860184
>>96860057
>>96859969
NTA I'm going to sit down and take a stab at this in Solaris Skunkworks. I'll post my results here later for feedback if anyone is interested.

>>96859417
UAC are finally an upgrade. UAC 2 and 5 have no reason not to double tap now and can really start sand blasting

I know this is going to be weird and all but does anyone know where I can get my hands of the Heavy Metal Pro files for free. I wanted to try it out and see what its like but the website wants me to charge over 60 bucks for it and I'm not paying that cash for something thats not even being updated anymore.

>>96860752
There's a good chance it won't even run on your system, it's been abandoned for over a decade. You'd think there'd be some kind of termination clause in that license, but apparently not.

>we got knight looking mechs, crab looking mechs, skull face looking mechs, trashcan looking mechs etc
>but no angel looking mechs
I want to make a custom mech with partial wing and print out some winged mech to play with my friends. Now to make it feel like it's flying without actually making LAM I need to jumping at least 10 (although I honestly want to go even faster, not that I'm expecting to get to 18), but I'm not sure if I should go 8/12/8[10] with regular jump jets or 5/8/8[10] with improved jump jets and at what tonnage, although I narrowed it down to a medium. A compact engine would go well with improved jump jets, but shit is still heavy. Also leaves little space and tonnage for weapons (don't want to just cheese with jump MPLs too) but I'm willing to pay the price.

I don't know if anyone else saw it but the AP ammo change doesnt even mention the +1 TN removal or is staying. I hope this is the case of CGL being retarded and forgot about it because if they intend to keep that +1 TN for AP rounds then might as well not bother touching it in the first place.

>>96860850
>A compact engine would go well with improved jump jets,
Meant a light engine, not compact, my bad.

>>96860862
It doesn't say to only replace specific parts of the rules for that ammo, so I would assume it's intended to replace the entire writeup.

>>96860928
And cross checking with the leaks, the leak specifically says to remove that +1 TN. So yeah, the playtest rules are intended to completely replace the entirety of the current rules for that ammo.

>>96860862
>>96860948
Yeah I am not too sure about the rule change what they mean by the wording. I am guessing that it is replacing that +1 TN?

Looking more into the rules I think NARC is still pretty much useless for spotters from my understanding of what it says due to ECM essentially cancelling it out unless its the unit that fires it? -1 TN though is nice but I see this making it only really practical on designs that are already missile heavy rather than supporting other missile units?

I am also surprised the flamer, heavy gauss, MASC, thunderbolt and bombast changes didn't make this cut?

>>96860842
The termination clause is Rick Raisleys IRL death. That's the only way the license is coming back.

>>96860842
Someone on one of the Facebook group says it can run on Windows 11 and I still want to try regardless.

>>96860672
>>96860184
>>96860057
>>96859969
Alright, here's my preliminary stab at a Lance + Shield Charger variant.
The obvious concept was a Solaris VII gladiator mech. I was tempted to go crazier with it using XXL engines, but decided to follow the KISS mantra to a degree.
Went with a medium shield so that it can still jump as one anon suggested. Debated on using IJJs, but seemed too heavy for what will be used for positioning rather than backstabbing.
Next I tried out a MASC + supercharger build, but I was running into issues arming it enough afterwards. I then took a step back and restarted with a TSM build instead, keeping the supercharger for the extra speed lost from the shield.
Went X-Pulse lasers because I felt it needed some experimental tech to be a proper Solaris mech. The math should work out with the two small lasers there in case you walk or (for whatever reason) stand still and want to keep your TSM bonus. Still, please vet it to make sure I didn't fuck up on accident.
Every single ranged weapon is in the right torso so the mech will be utterly screwed if it loses its side, but it's got an XL engine anyway so that's a given and it's a gimmick gladiator to boot. Seemed fine.
Went max armor since I imagine it's going to take a pounding drawing so much fire between its charges. I need to adjust the balance of the front/rear armor on the torso, but I figured I'd source input here first before I fiddle with it too much.
Lemme know what you dudes think.

>>96858624
Alps thermal printers for printing whites and metallics, yes. Although a lot of small business decal makers are switching to UV printers, which are crazy expensive but much more supported globally.
Otherwise home inkjet decal sheets work ok provided you have a decent printer. Just no white backgrounds if you print on transparent sheets.

>>96860752
Any particular reason why? I used to have the HMPro suite on CD, but that disk went missing ages ago. I switched to MML and never looked back. Hell, the newest version of MML even allows design of handheld weapons!

>>96861137
Under the playtest rules, that thing does 72 damage + potentially 1 internal damage if the first location hit by the charge somehow still has armor by the time all 15 hits are resolved. It takes zero damage, but loses somewhere between 1 and 2 of its shields 18 DC. If that leaked change where the target hex also counts as a charge is in, then it goes up to 80.

Of course, realistically you're not getting a perfect 10 hex run up, so it's probably more like 32 to 40 damage +1 pierce check point, but that's still a lot of hurt.

>>96858671
>>96858878
I also tend to go with the 2nd book, I think.

Whichever one this one's from.

>>96861230
Just want to give it a go. I know everything is outdated and stuff but the experience of using it would be pretty cool.

>>96858671
The first. It's the weirdest and the best. 1629 is just so damn fun to read.

I tried but 80 damage seems cool.

So, can we hope for these getting a plastic kit?

>>96862225
I wouldn't be surprised at a LAMs box at this point. They're running out of other stuff to do.

>>96862238
They'll make a million different alternate universes that no one would buy before they'd bring the LAMs back in earnest, even though there's multiple avenues for them to come back.

>>96862217
>fails to step down/turn while sprinting
>proceeds to explode
or
>proceeds to stab on urbanmech
>friendly neighborhood atlas dumps a couple SRM6's into it
>commander turns to lancemate...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6VjPM5CeWs

>>96862238
>They're running out of other stuff to do.
They're really not. There's a lot of stuff that needs release in plastic with updated sculpts

>>96862225
Maybe one or two. People seem to like the kickstarter exclusive ASF salvage boxes, and there's been murmurings about an aerospace rework for years, but I can't see them making a bunch of ASF boxes. These playtest rules do require a token/model to be placed on the board when bombing, but not for air to air actions.

>>96862261
They brought back LAMs. I don't know what you mean by "in earnest", since they were never more than a minor thing anyway.

So, what do you guys think about them having the open, public playtesting in general?

>>96862589
It's good. Better than surprising us with changes tested in-house only and telling us to suck it.

>>96862634
Instead they'll be tested openly, and then be told to suck it. I've never seen a public test result in any actual adjustment since 90% of what you see is what you're getting. By the time you get to play with it, all the logistics of getting it finalized have already happened. This is just a marketing soft landing.

>>96862646
They pay a lot of attention to the official forum. Probably too much desu.

>>96862646
From what I've heard, they've decided not to use the side table change they were trying out after the feedback from people who used it a lot was negative.

>>96862809
I think the ammo explosion cap has been pretty popular and I actually like the new weapon explosion system they are implementing.

When does the Battlemech Manual get reprinted? I'm not paying +$100 USD for it

>>96863046
May as well wait till next year when the new rulebook drops.

>>96862766
If that's the case they would have listened to all the feedback about the asset cards instead of ignoring 90% of it like they did

>>96863163
>asset cards
What is the deal with these? I haven't heard anyone really talking about them.

>>96863198
They're just really simplified units or "battlefield effects" like an artillery strike. Instead of having a whole record sheet, an asset vehicle is just a movement profile attached to a weapon attack and a toughness value. When it attacks you, it uses its abstract weapon. When you attack it, you roll 2d6 against its toughness with a + for high damage, if you beat it, it dies. If you don't beat it, its toughness goes down by 1 and it lives.

I finally captured my elemental wife and now shes making me work out and forcing me to be good at war and stuff. Wtf where is the snu snu? Im tired, my feet hurt, and I just want to drink after a long day and not sprint 7 miles.

Newbies shouldn't play 1 mech vs 1 mech games. It's too boring. Lance on Lance is too complicated. 2 mechs vs 2 mechs is the sweet spot to teach someone.

>>96863219
I know what they are, I just haven't heard any complaints/feedback about them, which is what I'm asking about.
Except for airstrikes "being OP." My club didn't use them when we were playing Hinterlands, vutI personally don't have experience with why that decision was made.

>>96863247
I don't know anyone who uses them either, so maybe everyone took a look at them and then put them back in the box and forgot about it. Most players are still 4v4 mech only deathmatch and anyone more advanced than that probably wants real units.

>>96863260
We used the tanks for the Hinterlands campaign. It's an OK system, but there isn't any real reason to not use regular record sheets outside of the canpaign system. We ended up with games where a guy would pay BV for regular tanks with record sheets, but also get BSA tanks too, which really highlighted how pointless it was.

>>96863276
I mean spending BV on tanks doesn't make BSA tanks redundant, just that they spent to add to existing ground presence instead of saving it for fire support-- though it would be weird if two tanks on the board that are the same tanks used different rules.

Which are your favorite paper standees? I'm looking for an Enforcer specifically. I know about this thread https://battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=53689.0 but I'm looking for other options.

>>96863163
I like the BSA. Whole reason I started buying vehicles now that I can add flavor combined arms without learning additional rulesets

How homogeneously japanese is the Draconis Combine? Do other cultures exist in it, or do people feel a big pressure to take up japanese names/customs?

>>96863785
Shiro Kurita really pushed the monoculture thing when he was founding the place, and one of his successors did the same thing after an incident where a weeaboo impulse saved him from an assassination attempt. Jackson Hayes 'forsook his African ancestry' and changed his name to Tetsuhara, founding the new family that gave us Best Afro-Samurai Minobu. Hohiro Kurita (Takashi's father) tried to force the entire Combine to adopt Japanese as their first language, even though it was massively impractical (and indeed contributed to justifying his assasssination). The Black Dragon Society would probably love to force the monoculture on everyone like Hohiro.

That said, the Azami Brotherhood have more or less retained ethno-religious autonomy within the Combine (under taqiya, they agreed to 'honor the Dragon' and publicly adopt the Dictum Honorium, as long as the ISF agreed not to look to closely at their actual internal cultural and religious practices). Even pre-independence, Rasalhague was very proud of its own culture (which often caused friction with the traditionalist Dracs). One of the 9th Ghost Regiment pilots who fought Colonel Camacho on Hachiman in "Hearts of Chaos" was named Tai-i Roger Hansen.

>>96863785
Other cultures exist (even aside from the very notable Azami), but there is a huge pressure to take up Japanese names and customs.

Dieron Prefecture, composed of former Hegemony worlds, is noted for being the least Japanese part of the Combine.

Obviously when Rasalhague was still part of the Combine, they maintained their own Scandinavian identity, but they also seem to have assimilated somewhat (or maybe that was just an externally imposed Japanese-speaking nobility?). Remember that the Rasalhagues were considered Draconian enough for Teddy to be engaged to a Rasalhague noblewoman.

In one of the novels, local Christians are observed celebrating Christmas openly.

Jews are also noted for maintaining their cultural traditions, even though they officially don't practice the Jewish religion (which is technically banned, as are most religions in the Combine aside from Buddhism and Shintoism).

The general impression is that you're supposed to adopt Japanese culture and traditions in order to get ahead, but the Combine isn't stupid enough to try and impose it by force on literally ever single person in the country.

>>96861304
Thanks for running the numbers.
I tried it out in a handful of MegaMek games which doesn't use the new playtest rules, but was still a lot of fun. I was reliably getting 32-48 damage charges which were fun, especially since the shield tended to eat most of the damage. I once set up a gnarly 64 points of damage in a charge that would've blown through another mech if I wasn't crashing into a fresh Colossus. Still did a LOT of damage without taking much in return. (Wish I took a screenshot in retrospect.)

I only ran into two problems:
1) Jumping could throw off my heat numbers to keep the optimal 9 heat for TSM.
2) I forgot to consider that you can't shoot at all when you charge so I'd zero out after crashing into someone. I don't know if there's any solution to this beyond asking your opponent if they're cool with you firing off the lasers blindly without any hopes of hitting them. Something tells me most people wouldn't be keen on it after seeing what damage numbers you're pulling.

Sometimes I'd forgo crashing into them in favor of getting up in their face and stabbing 'em with the lance for a whopping 32 damage followed by X-Pulses for extra damage.

Preliminary tests are looking good and, again, that's without the melee buffs. I think Jouster is a keeper.

>>96858878
>>96861580
>>96861879
Thanks for the tips, I'll keep my eyes out for the old books. I once had a copy of Field Manual Periphery, but stupidly sold it off when I was in a tight spot monetarily. I regretted that, but I remember not finding that book not as interesting as I hoped it would be back when. Don't recall why though.
Later I tried replacing it with Handbook Major Periphery States, but I found that book snooze worthy minus a couple of tidbits here and there. Sold that one too, but I didn't regret it.

Wonder if I can just do weathering/chipping instead of edge highlights like picrel on mechs

>>96864197
People have done that forever. I've got an unseen Pixie painted like that. You just need a small piece of sponge and some metallic or rust-colored paint to apply.

>>96864170
You can always read the electronic documents in the OP.

I think ballistics should get more ammo per ton. Double it!

With all these new rules, I am tempted to take a 'bad' 3025 lance up against a later eras force and see how they hold up. One of the 40t AC/5 mechs, shadowhawk, rifleman, MAD-3R.

>>96864200
Can you post your Pixie pic?

>>96864170
Field Manual Periphery and Field Manuals in general are a little dry in reading but can be useful for force composition like if you want to find out what kind of skill or units they are using it can be good for that.
Handbook Major Periphery States is mostly useful for playing the RPG.

If concerned about getting docs just do what >>96864222 said.

So, besides the Solaris combat matches. Are there any mech sports? Like. Mech football, soccer, golf? Maybe piloting feats of great precision?

>>96864795
Yes.

>>96864795
https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Noisel_Summer_Games
>Someone please post that Cyclops or Grasshopper with baseball bat pic

>>96864795
Mech Racing is confirmed sport. With Nosiel and Solaris hosting official races as well as plenty underground midnight club style stuff on other planets.

>>96864795
The Noisiel Games are an annual "mech olympics" competition with people using mechs to have athletics competitions and play various sports like mech-scale basketball, football, and baseball.

>>96855628
There was a retcon that gave the FWL a continuous production line producing a steady 12 introtech Thugs per year for centuries. Despite their PPC issues.

>>96864809
>>96864829
>>96864882
>>96864928
Neat. Someone should write a book about it.

>>96865060
The FWL thugs should have kept the SRM-6s and downgraded to LLs.

>>96865129
Yes!

>>96865129
Downgrade to LLs and get a third SRM6?

>>96865165
Well the introtech thug replaced the 6s with 4s, freeing up 4 tons from the PPC to LL switch would let you add a 6 and 1 of 6 ammo. So 2xLL and 14 SRM tubes would be decent, but that's like 26 heat with no min range and I don't remember how many HS the 10E had.

>>96865183
19 hs. I also forgot about the downgrade to SRM4's and the only single ton of ammo, had to look it up again.

>>96865198
A 3rd SRM-4 with a 2nd ton of ammo so you could load infernos would probably be best.

>>96865129
>>96865163
>>96865165
>>96865183
>>96865183
>>96865209
2LLs, 2srm6 with 2 tons of ammo and a 20th heatsink.

>>96865233
That'd be quite the mean mech in 3025.

>>96865233
Solid and makes sense in context. They should have gone with that if they were gonna the FWL producing them during 3025. You could even contrast it by having Dracs the ones producing the 10E in comparison, since they're the state with all the PPCs.

Anyone has any idea how to paint golden-tinted green camospecs online uses for House Dai Dai Chi?

>>96865584
Edge highlight with yellow. It's retardedly obvious, use the color dropper tool in paint next time.

>>96865632
Ideally the green itself should be tinted with gold, not just the edges. It might be achievable by blending gold paint with green.

>>96865302
>You could even contrast it by having Dracs the ones producing the 10E in comparison
Problem there is that would remove much of the reason for the Hatamoto Chi to exist..

>>96864150
See I didn't want to bother with trying to maintain 9 Heat for TSM anyways, so I just stacked MASC and a Supercharger.
Also wanted to build the Lasers into the Lance because I've got a Hunchback 4P that does the side torso + Shield Melee thing.

>>96865753
Well having a bunch of Chargers was arguably a pretty good reason, but you could have it so Dracs had a limited production line of Thug 10Es and it got blown up just a couple decades before 3025.
Would explain why they have a notably large pool of Thugs but still pushed the Hatamoto-Chi later down the line.

>>96865926
Didn't they get their main supply of thugs from comstar from the whole "we'll give you mechs if you let the FRR exist for a few years" deal?

>>96860850
Boy, do I have the 'mech for you. Unicorns are at least angelic, right?

>>96865233
Breddy gud, but you can't force a PSR until you get into 9 hex range.

Been ages since i've played any BT, I can't remember shit. None of my friends want to play sadly.
Gonna do some solo MW2e around the early 4th succession war. I'll do a bit of mini action as well. Got me some house rules for speeding up combat.
I choose the bounty archetype, and I am to play a green MW pilot with some mercs, buddy up with an NPC and focus doing some partisan style combat with maybe some opportunistic bounty hunting on the side (Seems like a good angle for some bad guy rivalries too).
Not sure where to set things mind you, if anyone has some good ideas it would be appreciated.
Even if I end up rolling into a regiment I am still going to keep the operations really small so I can keep it pacey and try cram in a little combined arms if I can.
Gonna need to brush up on my lore too. Wish me luck bros.

>>96866290
I'll update with my mech roll and force organization roll when I get back. Archetype says heavy mech but I am going to roll it for fun. Also need to flesh out my best friend who hopefully won't dramatically die on me.

Did anon ever update his commission art?

>>96865924
>See I didn't want to bother with trying to maintain 9 Heat for TSM anyways
I hear you. I like TSM for that sweet juicy double physical damage, but I was still hoping it'd be tweaked in the playtest. It's an unnecessarily fiddly math game if you want to optimize it.
The problem is I don't know how they could fix it without invalidating lots of old designs. (Maybe they'd be better off coming up with an Improved TSM in universe that new designs could use?)
That said, I came at my CGR-1S7 Jouster with a Solaris VII design perspective which means you gotta put in some goofy stuff.

Moving onto your build, this is a totally valid simple build. In fact, it could've been predecessor of my 1S7 or vice versa.
I couldn't resist tweaking it a bit however. I moved the ER Medium Lasers into the RT as (unless they update this in the playtest) you cannot hit someone with a melee weapon in an arm which you fired weapons from. This allows you to fire away and stab someone in the same time. I also threw in lovely delicious Endo-Steel making more room for 2 extra ER Medium Lasers. Alternatively you can swap one of them out for an extra DHS if you want to run things cooler. It should be easily managed however as long as you don't alpha strike and max jump repeatedly.
Hope you like it.
>I've got a Hunchback 4P that does the side torso + Shield Melee thing.
You've piqued my curiosity. Care to share that build?

>>96866290
>Gonna do some solo MW2e around the early 4th succession war.
Cool, I'm a fan of MW2e. Wish I could get a campaign of that running again.
>Got me some house rules for speeding up combat.
Interesting. Care to share?
>>96866290
>I choose the bounty archetype, and I am to play a green MW pilot with some mercs, buddy up with an NPC and focus doing some partisan style combat with maybe some opportunistic bounty hunting on the side (Seems like a good angle for some bad guy rivalries too).
Classic setup and for good reason.
>>96866290
>Not sure where to set things mind you, if anyone has some good ideas it would be appreciated.
Depends on what kind of mechs you want to face as OpFor and hopefully salvage. For instance, if you like Capellan mechs then your mercs can be hired to join the Capellan front. Alternatively, if you want something a little bit different, maybe you get hired to help defend the blossoming St. Ives Compact.
>Wish me luck bros.
Looking forward to your batreps anon.

>>96866640
>I moved the ER Medium Lasers into the RT as (unless they update this in the playtest) you cannot hit someone with a melee weapon in an arm which you fired weapons from.
>You've piqued my curiosity. Care to share that build?
Sure.

>>96856943
Thanks for keeping tabs on this for me anon.

Ghosts (Comstar)
WVE-5N Wyvern Max "Jumpman" Hassan 4/6
MCY-99 Mercury Colleen O'Clery 3/4
DV-6M Dervish Khamsin 3/4
HBK-4G Hunchback Wilhelm "Kaiser" Billings 4/6
KTO-19 Kintaro Logan Carmichael 4/4
MON-66 Mongoose Cristobal Forsyth-Templeton 3/5
GRF-2N Griffin Giuseppe Bartolo 4/5
MON-66 Mongoose Heather Mason 4/6
SHD-2H Shadow Hawk Declan “Mystic” Bellamy 3/4

(3 slots left)

Ghouls (Pirates)
WSP-1A Wasp Donald Butler Holdfast 4/5
CN9-A Centurion 'Mad' Bob Cutler 4/4
Vedette Lonnie Ferguson 3/4
TBT-5N (The Wild Ride) Trebuchet Bones "Bones" Boneson.4/4
Vedette Honesty “Honey” Wallace 3/4
BJ-1 Blackjack Willie Snakebeard.4/4
WHM-6R Warhammer Bone-biter 4/5
ZEU-6S Zeus Beatrice "Swamp Hag" Moreau 3/4
Goblin Blake ‘Foggy’ Bottin 3/5

(3 slots left)

Unless anons still want to roll could make this the cutoff?

>>96865679
No, you'll just end up with green paint that has some sparkles. you can blend non-metallics into metallics but it requires you to have like 9 parts metallic to 1 part non and only really works with a silver base for colored tints, for gold you're stuck with adding in a tiny bit of yellow, orange or red to adjust the shade of the gold slightly.

Rolled 5, 3, 3, 6 = 17 (4d6)

>>96866796
Donald Butler Holdfast decides to hit the simpods, lest he perishes quickly in this company. He'll either live long and prosper as a Wasp Ace, or at least die quickly.

>>96865679
That's not what anon is asking for, anon is asking "how do I get the scheme in this picture?" and that is just as other anon has described, yellow edge highlighting.

>>96866825
That'll improve him slightly to 4/4 unless the reroll is penalized.

>>96866827
If anon wanted to experiment, he could try a double highlight where the very very edges and corners of the yellow are further highlighted with a gold that uses a similarly yellow base. A very sparse gold drybrush might also get results, but it would be easy to go too far with it.

>>96866885
Actually, the sparse drybrush is part of the example, you can really see it on the front panels. One pass with barely any paint on the brush, going in one direction.

>>96866831
No penalty, though if you rerolled worse it'd stuck.

Gonna be running a game for some guys with little to no experience, basic 4v4 using lights and mediums, I'm thinking

Griffin
Centurion
Whitworth
Commando
Vs
Wolverine
Trebuchet
Phoenix Hawk
Locust

With all of them being stock introtech except the pixie, which I'm thinking either 1D or 1K for heat management reasons. Their objective will be for team Griffin to be trying to move stolen goods off of team Wolverine's board edge. I'm not sure if it should all just be carried by hand or if I should give them a couple trucks.

>>96867056
Although thinking about it, maybe the Wolverine should be a 6D or 6M so that side of the field has more big hitting guns.

>>96867056
I'd probably replace the Phoenix Hawk with either a Shadow Hawk or Vindicator. Not terribly exciting choices but they'll struggle to fuck up with them.

Kenyon Marik looks like such a smug prick

>>96866699
I've been pining to try play an RPG in BT for a while but I only just found out 2e is much more straight forward.
>House rules
I meant speeding up the BT combat. Usual stuff like force withdrawal and group firing. I'll modify as I go. If I find 2e unenjoyable I'll maybe switch to something more narrative and light like tinyd6 or tricube tales. Seems nice from what I've read though.
>Looking forward to your batreps anon.
Thanks anon. Going to with 3025 and get involved with House Liao. We're going to be based out of Warlock and get involved with some skirmishes with Federated Suns.

>>96867257
Right now I'm limiting myself to stuff I've painted so it looks more appealing. I've got a few shadow hawks, but my only Vindicator needs to be stripped and redone since it was part of a disastrous attempt at using green primer.

I still get a chuckle when reading about davion and the fucking dragonlords show up

>>96864829
I gotchu chief

>>96866361
Alright, The Red Devils are roughly Battalion sized but irregular. I'll decide their exact make up later but it sure ain't 36 mechs. I'm thinking two mech companies and then a half company of mixed vehicles and half company of infantry. Then we can be assigned extra assets as per.
I'm part of a 2 mech half lance detachment, callsign Electric Goose. Normally tasked with tertiary objectives as part of bigger operations. Small raids, civilian relief, harassment, scouting and recon. That sort of thing.

Luther "Leopard" Reese (that's me), pilots a 3V Locust. Hell yeah.
My Brother in arms "Frog" pilots a Falcon.
We're also joined by a Scorpion tank for some reason.

If we perform well I might request we get upgraded to resemble a full lance. I'm not going to bother with book keeping a merc force, I'm just going to run it as PoV as possible.

I might be posting journal stuff in the solo thread but I'll post any interesting combat here too.

>>96868097
If the Scorpion is the ML variant, then it has a bit of cargo utility for odd jobs.

Which post 4th Succ war griffin is your favorite?

A side torso to surpass 007

>>96868296
Not really a Griffin person but I kind of like the 6S as it feels like a natural upgrade of the 1N. 3M also isn't too bad even if I am not too fond of the XL.

>>96868474
Which mech is this?

>>96868474
>case
Coward Ammunition Storage Equipment

>>96868296
2N but it's pre-4th unfortunately

>>96868508
Honestly this is the right answer. None of the post-Helm designs justify their XL engines.

>>96868502
Victor VTR-10D

>>96867345
>since it was part of a disastrous attempt at using green primer.

Do you have a picture? I'm very interested what that looks like. I don't think I've ever primed anything but black.

BT needs more characters like Vlasov.

>>96868553
What about the 4R?

>>96868508
Its in production again starting from the Jihad.

>>96868565
With the new rules it'll have a lot of fun blasting away.

What faction does this pic best encapsulate?

>>96858671
First one really was the most interesting.
By FM we're getting Xin Sheng nonsense with the MAF pulling six regiments out of thin air.

>>96868645
I'd say Ilclan-era FedSuns. There was a short story actually called The Field Is Lost about the Lyrans/Fedcom fighting the Jade Falcons at the beginning of the Clsn Invasion, though.

>>96868567
I don't, but what happened was the primer went didn't cure for almost three months (every other primer I've used before or since cure overnight), then when it finally dried it was still super thick and turned a light tan, then eventually after sitting in a drawer for a few more months, it actually became the green it was supposed to be, but somehow looks thicker and is obscuring more details than it did when it was tan. Maybe it's fully cured by now, but I'm never going to use that primer again.

How many infantry platoons can an Overlord dropship carry? That is, in addition to a full cargo of mechs and aerospace fighters.

>>96868700
0

Can't decide what FedSuns unit to paint. At first I thought about the Davion Guards but I'm not confident in doing the red and white stripes so I was thinking of doing Avalon Hussars instead.

>>96868700
By default none. You could eat into its relatively small cargo space to carry some but a regular Overlord has zero room for infantry.

To the anon that wanted the Japanese Pegasus, should I just do the one SRM6 like in the image, or both SRM6s that it's supposed to have? It already has the two machineguns, so maybe that's where the SRM6 went?

>>96868700
up to thirty three in the cargo bay

>>96868728
Presumably they need to survive the trip.

>>96868689
that sounds infected.

>>96868689
>didn't cure for almost three months

The fuck?

>>96868760
>>96868776
Yeah, it was still a little sticky three months after the fact, then changed color and got thick, then changed color again and got even thicker. And it's not like I sprayed it in a thunderstorm, it was a sunny day with low humidity, and then went inside a low humidity house. Shit's fucked.

>>96868754
make sure they wear seatbelts

What drop ship has the largest capacity for infantry?

>>96868812
you mean in terms of dedicated infantry dropships or in general?

>>96868812
Probably the Condor, 12 platoons, and enough vehicle bays to give them all APCs.

>>96864568
Fair warning. This paintjob is probably older than you are. That's why it got used as an example.

>>96868812
Tied between the Condor, Nagumo, Hercules and older versions of the Excalibur. Fluff wise the Triumph should also be in the running since that thing is essentially a modular box with wings meant to be able to get reconfigured from anything from infantry, cargo, vehicle, mech and even naval transport.

>>96868719
Anjin Muerto PMM

>>96868877
OK I'll go out and get a 4B pencil today. Should be easier than trying to edge highlight with a brush with my shaky hands

Shame they didn't remove +1 to hit for AP ammo.

>>96868957
They literally did. The playtest writeup is the entirety of the rules for that ammo type and does not include the +1. They specify when the playtest rules are merely added on to the normal ones.

>>96869142
fluffy

>>96868957
>>96868967
Bigger shame is they didnt make ot available earlier

>>96869142
>>96869145
What a novel idea! Someone should do that!

>>96869142
Imagine still being able to buy them from Starship Modeller...

>>96869142
Not if we have anything to say about it. We'd rather see no decals at all than immoral or sexually gratuitous ones. Why do you think we greeble surfaces so heavily? Most people aren't going to take the time to re-smooth them to allow for decal application. We can't control how you paint your minis, and we'd rather not have people like this guy (>>96869316) buying product at all of that's how they're going to paint their stuff, but we can at least make it difficult for gamers to put decals on their minis that make the game into a non family-friendly environment.

>>96869652
good cuck impression.

>>96869652
Post line arts for the nuUziel and nuFafnir of you're real

>>96869652
>We'd rather see no decals at all than immoral or sexually gratuitous ones.
"We train young men to shoot fire on people but their commanders won't allow them to write FUCK on their BattleMechs because it's obscene!"

>>96869824
Which is a retarded take. No real military would pull something like that.

>>96869652
>we'd rather not have people like this guy (>>96869316) buying product at all
Good news, anon didn't buy anything in that pic from CGL

>>96869845
They keep it to expendable munitions, mostly.

>>96869845
Except they did, notably the Americans did, there was an air force squadron that had nose art on their planes and their normal aircraft carrier didn't give a fuck, but during a battle they had to use a different carrier and when they laded the commanding officer was outraged and demanded they repaint their planes to comply with regulations, and they did so.
Even though they were a different branch of the military and only temporarily on that ship, they never used nose art again.

>>96869890
>the commanding officer was outraged
I had a sticker on the back window of my car of a woman with a ball gag in her mouth that said "shut up, bitch" and I got a note left under my windshield wiper threatening to find my CO and have me punished if I didn't remove it. Some people just have no sense of fun.

>>96869924
Maybe your """fun""" shouldn't be exploitative of other people. You're disgusting, and a fine example of how the military attracts the worst human beings.

>>96869933
NTA, but does your statement change if she's into it? (or he, gender doesn't really matter in this question.)

>>96869949
No, and it never will.

>>96869954
Why? I'm not looking to change your mind. I'd like you to explain your reasoning please.
This is assuming that both parties are consenting to the said activities.

>>96870004
Son, that is troll or a braindead zombie. It's not worth your response, either way.

>>96870004
Fictional women cannot consent, but for esoteric twitskyblr reasons no sane human can comprehend, do count as real enough that whatever you do to them is real sexual violence against women.

>>96868575
That would be a very interesting story. Where would you insert a Vlasov-type character into BattleTech’s ongoing timeline?
What’s fascinating to me about Vlasov is him being caught up between the ideological juggernauts and trying to negotiate a third way that he could rationalize as “truly” patriotic as opposed to being trivialized as a mere turncoat.
Maybe he could be CJF Star Colonel who leads a few Galaxies against the Third Star League?

>>96868575
>>96870105
Isn't this Candace Liao?

>>96870143
I’m not sure as Candace is not quite the empty signifier Vlasov has become.

>>96869316
What mechs even are those?

And I think pinup decals would be awesome to see. Especially on merc/pirate companies.

Commando or cowboy Stinger?

>>96868575
ing a Vlasov-like character is to do it retroactively. This could help get the same sense of “what could have been” that thinking about Vlasov himself generates in the real world, and also (more importantly) the way that Vlasov can relativistically stand for (or against) any number of contrary political positions.
Let’s imagine that the usual depiction of Clan Smoke Jaguar in the Political Century and during the Clan Invasion has been hagiographically warped to emphasize that it was monolithically Crusader. But actually, there were internal dissenters all along the way who more or less kept their opinions to themselves given the momentum of CSJ and Crusader politics.
However, these dissenters became more disillusioned by Twycross, Wolcott, and especially Luthien. In the wake of Operation DRAGONSLAYER’s failure, the DCMS took a relatively high-ranking dissenter prisoner sparking an internal debate about whether, in light of the immense resources expended to defend Luthien, he could be used to demoralize the Clans generally and especially CSJ.
DCMS veterans of Wolcott and Luthien, impressed by Clan honor culture and recalling the truth about the Wolf’s Dragoons revealed the previous year at the Outreach Summit, even went so far as floating the idea of re-arming the CSJ POWs as a putative mercenary unit and turning them loose to fight against the Invasion. The ISF strongly objected, arguing that any similarities between Kuritan and Clan culture were purely superficial and that Clan internal politics were as of yet too obscure to form a secure basis for such a scheme.

>>96870333
>3▶
> Commando or cowboy Stinger?
Sir, the term is Rambo Stinger.

>>96870398
Nevertheless, the value of the Dragoons to House Davion was not lost on the Kuritans. The CSJ POWs were transferred to a relatively obscure location where their dissenting ideology might be developed for future use. The contemporaneous machinations of Ulric Kerensky and Anastasius Focht obviated the immediate usefulness of the project and DCMS leadership completely lost interest in the CSJ POWs after the Great Refusal. The entire project was summarily taken over by the ISF as a long-term investment. Outside of ISF documentation, the project no longer existed — and might as well have never existed.
The ISF informed the POWs of the apparent destruction of CSJ and that, in reality, their Clan secretly lived on in them. Over the course of the 31st century, these survivors were encouraged to preserve their Clanner ways as much as possible and the ISF systematically spied on them as a kind of “intelligence zoo” to better understand the Children of Kerensky. “Trials of Emancipation” were even regularly allowed (as single duels, always subtly rigged) to preserve the fighting spirit of the CSJ survivors as well as to provide the excuse to unleash them at the right moment should it ever come. Over the decades, the ISF also attempted to graft Kuritan cultural norms onto the survivors’ values with little internal agreement on its effectiveness.
Various regimes within the ISF had greater or lesser interest in this elaborate operation depending on the tides of galactic politics. Finally, in 3152, interest in the project exploded when Alaric Ward not only proclaimed the Third Star League but also, horrifically for the Combine’s leadership and populace alike, resurrected Clan Smoke Jaguar. It was finally time to activate this shadowy echo of the Wolf’s Dragoons, with hopes that they undermine Alaric’s claims and destroy the resurrected Jaguars.

What mechs are these? They look like frankenmechs because I recognize the arms and legs. I just can't place them. And the CT having the little jew hat above the cockpit too. I've seen all these parts but can't remember one which.

>>96870450
figured it out. It's a MWO Catapult CT, with MWO Archer legs and arms.

>>96870444
So are these Jagweebs
>faithful heirs of the true Hidden Hope Doctrine whose long bondage absolved them of the sins of the Crusaders
>amoral collaborators of IS barbarians who motivated Aleksandr Kerensky First Exodus to begin with
>amoral opportunists who bartered their own military failures during the Invasion into a chance at re-fighting the battles of the Political Century
>brainwashed “ronin” who have unconsciously slipped into chalcas “bushido” larping
>the cat’s paw of an intelligence service
>the true Clan Smoke Jaguar that has heroically survived and triumphed in a century-long Trial of Possession

>>96870499
I like the idea of putting Clanners in a zoo.

>>96870578
Isn't this the Clan reservations in the Republic? And the Nova Cats in the DC before they got genocided?

>>96870600
Did they have the Clanners in exhibition enclosures where normal people could spend a nice afternoon with their family watching the Clanners do Clan things? Elementals swinging on tires between wrestling, mechwarriors batchalling each other for extra bananas, merchant caste trading their kibble to the scientist caste for well crafted sticks to trade to the warriors for favorable treatment? Aerospace Fighter phenotypes swinging in the tops of trees throwing poop at each other in ritual displays of dominace?

>>96870578
The ISF would provide retainers so the Jagweebs could even have proxies for their merchant and scientists castes — all of them also functioning as Kuritan cultural tutors as well as minders and handlers. Essentially, the zookeepers.

>>96869316
based

I got introduced to the setting via the clan invasion and thought the clans were dicks, but after reading the Succession, they are saints conpared to the Inner Sphere

>>96871030
facts

new thread? new thread!

>>96871045
>>96871045

Vlasov-inspired Jagweebs
>>96870398
>>96870444

>>96871030
You're either retarded or you didn't read enough lore. The average Inner Sphere peasant lived in luxury compared to the average Clan labor caste member who is as starving and malnourished as the lowest North Korean. Only the Dracs approached the Clans in shit living conditions and even then it's implied that Takashi at the very least looked the other way when his father was assassinated for trying reduce the living conditions of the Combine to Clan levels.

It was always stupid that after invading the Inner Sphere the non warriors didn't defect in mass after eating their first twinky.

AP ammo actually seems pretty good with the new playtest stuff. Might be worth stuffing into anything with a spare AC2 just to crit-fish.